#3367 Southern Hospitality S4E11: Drama in the DR

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Hello and welcome to Watch For Krapins, a podcast about all that crap on Brava. We just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker and joining me today is the glorious and charming Ronnie Karim. Hi, Ronnie. How's it going? Well, hello. Welcome to your podcast. We are just a few weeks away from our big cabaret for Bidden Housewives. That's been New York City. It's sold out, but you can get tickets to stream it. You can stream the whole show, go to the link. It's on our website. It's on our social media and watch along with this madness. We'll see how this all turns out, but it's going to be crazy. We're looking forward to that. Also join us on Patreon for bonus episodes. We did a trailer trash of the latest McBee trailer. And we also have a newsletter and we have Adfre listening and crap is on demand where you can watch. So go to patreon.com slash watch for Krapins. Today we are talking Southern hospitality season four episode 11. This beach is crazy. The kids are going to be wrapping up their Punta Cana trip. And where we last left off, they went to church. Michael took a bunch of them to church where they found inner peace and thought about deeper things in life and then immediately abandoned those lessons to get into more squabbles today. Michael's is like, I felt so empowered leaving the church. I was like, wow, like I was looking for a spiritual calling and I don't want to sound like Grace Lilly, but I really felt my grandma's presence in there. Is your grandma Bob Marley? Because no, you're not Grace Lilly. Don't worry about it. You're fine. Hi y'all. So, um, yeah, like, like, it's like, yeah, you know, you feel at home, you feel at peace. I'm like, so proud of you. He's like, thank you. So now they're going to have a dinner tonight. And so they all get back and everything and they're like getting ready. And Maddie has some starfish earrings. So Joe's like, wow, I like your earrings. It's like really nice and starfish. Yeah, my starfish earrings. Joe, can I ask you like what necklace should I wear? I have a starfish one. Wow, you have starfish earrings on a necklace. That's like a lot. Are you going to be doing a golden girl set? Or are you wearing giant starfishes all over? Do you have a silver dollar option? Sand dollar? It's crazy. They're like huge Miami old lady starfish necklace and matching earrings. That's heavy ears. The woman has very strong ear lobes. I'll say that. So it's like, yeah, you know, I was going to say that one. Yeah. So this one I was going to pick a starfish. That's really good. Okay, Joe, you know, I haven't DJed in like months and like the whole time. I'm just thinking about like, you know, like, you got to get, you got to get. So it's like so hard because I'm just thinking like, oh my God, what if I press play and music doesn't start or like, you know, like, I'm like, here's the music, but then it doesn't come on. Like what's going to happen? This is so much pressure. So hard pressing play. So Joe's like, you got this. Don't worry about it. Like, okay. Like, you know, like I got her back and I was like, I just, I get my head as like really hard to get out of my head. So I'll be like, thinking about how anxious and nervous I am until the gig is over. Like, I can't wait. I just have to press play. Oh, so he's like, it's okay. You're all right. Oh, you smell. It's Joe. It's dry shampoo, Joe. God get with it. Smell Charlie and Justin are FaceTiming and he's like, you look good. The slick back's eating right now. She's like, yeah, well, look, I'm breaking out all over where or right where your beard was because like your beard is like, oh my God, it's like crazy. Oh my God, like, I don't know what to do. I don't want to. I'm afraid. I'm afraid to tell people I don't want everyone to know. Okay, we got to keep it secret. So now TJ, Justin, Justin hangs up and then he presses and then he goes, love you. And TJ's like, I am dead. I think I love it though. Shut up. So the producer's like, did you purposely wait until she was gone to say I love you? And he's like, yeah, I feel like I don't want to scare her, you know, like maybe it's too soon on FaceTime, but God, I haven't, I feel like I haven't said I love you to anybody too soon. You know, it's a thing. And they're like, well, how many girls have you said I love you to? And he's like, honestly, like probably like close to like 40 women. Are we counting that girl from behind the bar? What was her name? Aruze? Are we counting Aruze? Yeah, a lot of women. A lot of women. I love them. A lot. So now in Julia and Brad's room, they're getting ready. And he's like so glad that she can be there even for just 24 hours. And then they talk about pants and Brad's like, whenever you're on vacation, you don't have your partner with you. It just feels like something's a little bit off. So it's nice to have the other half. And by the way, since Emmy didn't say anything to you, I guess this would be now be a better, a good time to greet her. Cause like maybe she at least acknowledged your presence. She's like, whatever, I hate the fucking bitch. But yeah. So Emmy did not say hi to Julia when she initially showed up. Yeah. So now everybody goes to dinner and, um, Michael's is like, um, we actually have a rule before dinner starts tonight. Okay. Give me your phones. No one gets to have their phones. So he stacks up everybody's phones and takes them away. I don't know that I'd be at this dinner, especially with these people. You might need to call for help. No, it's going to be very important. Like we're not going to be distracted. It's that way we can all see me get upset at Emmy. Um, so Brad is like, okay, no phones. Whoa. And, uh, they're like, he just like, um, by the way, how was the beach? Looks like you guys, I got some sun and Bella's like, so fun. I loved it. Wait, were you, why are you at our table? Who is this person? Bella? Okay, everybody. Well, welcome Julia. We're sad you missed the past few days. Okay. But we're like happy to have you. Oh, by the way, everybody just claps except Emmy. Okay. We could have taken pictures of that with our phones, but I didn't let you keep them. Okay. So we're happy to have you for the last supper of our trip because it's last supper. We went to church today. I'm going to say the last supper a lot today because I'm sticking with the theme. Okay. So then my, my calls is asking, have you spoken to grace by the way, Maddie? And Maddie is like, no, I haven't even seen her since girls night, but I feel like she's like taking like the right steps. That's like, I'm really proud of her. And then later on, I'm going to say that she's not taking the right steps. So Lake is like, yeah, she's addressing that there's like a problem and that's like the difference. I'm like, I mean, it's like, well, what's going on? Like, isn't that the first step? Like, I don't know the nine steps or whatever. Yeah. The nine steps. It's not like the first step. Like, what are the nine steps? So hard. It's like so many steps to remember. It's a lot of steps. Yeah. Yeah. Well, this is step one. A lot of people do step one, like 300 times. I picked up like 10 white chest before I stuck with it. So like, you know what I mean, right? Do you guys like my starfish earrings? No, be honest. Be honest. All right, guys. I want to just give a toast to my beautiful girl from Maddie because like, I'm so proud of you. I'm so proud of starfish. I'm so proud of your earlobes. So fucking strong. You know, it's your first show in a long time. And I'm like really proud of you. But more importantly, I'm proud of this group. Like I'm proud to be your friends. I'm proud to be opening a restaurant with Levin Lamar soon, probably most likely that I'm going to own. It's going to be great. I'm calling it Joakery's Dacarys. So we guys all come. So hey, then Mia is asking everyone, what's the, what's your favorite thing that everyone ate? And then Justin goes, Michael's probably say TJ's ass. Everyone's like, and Mia's like, Michael's, did you pray for me at the church? I prayed for everybody. I prayed for everybody and I cried a lot. And they're like, really? He's like, yeah, it was like very nice. I think that like my biggest thing is like, I carry a lot of pain and I feel like sometimes I don't release it. And like being there, I just felt like I got like a lot and it was like really nice to just like cry and release and pray. And then he's like, Michael's like, you know what? Like when I met you, like you weren't that secure about your sexuality, but now like your sexuality is like a superpower. It's like crazy. Like you're so gay now. Like you're super, super gay now. And I was like, oh my God, yes, Michael's just so gay now. Congratulations. Yes. Biggest scam I've ever met in my life. You did it. That's funny because I'm like on the cover of so gay magazine now. So that like like works out really well. So sorry, but it's so not gay. So not gay. So not gay. So not gay. So the dot stands for the dot. But by the way, I just want to reiterate that like I brought people that I just felt were closest to me and like really supported me through this journey. So yes, it was a spiritual moment, but it was also a passive aggressive way for me to get at Emmy. And in case people didn't realize that I'm just going to underline that one more time right now. I know. I just in case this didn't start a fight, I'll start a fight about it right now. I used my church, my church moment to get it at me. Okay. I mean, you're going to say anything? She's like, um, oh, I mean, it's like heard loud and clear. I mean, we all have best friends here at this table, like, you know, like, or we're loyal to so, I mean, Mia's like, well, he just said it that it's his closest friends he brought to the church. He's like, Oh, I heard, I heard, um, I just don't think I'm in a place where I'm like ready to be silenced or like shut down. And I think that like my outfits honestly a great representation. Because like you guys probably what looks like fishnet for you, it's just actually something to match the sound because I feel like you let like I let you walk all over me and I'm like, Oh, you rehearsed that didn't you? I love that they all took turns calling him out on rehearsing that stupid line. I just wanted to match the sound because I feel like I've let you walk all over me. Then why are you dressed like sand? Because then you're dressed like someone who's continuing to let her walk all over you. Right? You should. Why wouldn't you dress like a broom? You know, cleaning up the sand. So now you can't walk all over me. Or like dress like rough terrain. I'm dressing like rough terrain, which is historically difficult to walk across or dress like a bear trap. You know, and be like, you walk all over me again. I'm going to catch your ankle. I am dressed like hot coals because if you're going to walk over me, at least have a spiritual moment. That's why I'm wearing an outfit made out of nails. So you cannot walk all over me without making your feet bloody. I am wearing broken glass that way. If anyone walks over me, it's going to be any Linux. And so they're like, oh, I really thought about that line, huh? And he's like, yeah, Michael's kept that in his nose top for like three months waiting to use that. Super gay. Super gay. I told you. Yeah. Well, I was thinking about it when I was getting ready because it was like either wear a fishnet or open a button, button down shirt a or open button down shirt b or blazer with nothing under it. See, so, you know, I went with a sandy fishnet. I mean, like, that's how you feel. Like, I mean, so like you think like, like, like, like, like, like, I mean, like, what do you think? Like, what do you think, Michael's? But you think I'm like a bad friend than five. No, no, I never said you were a horrible friend. Those words never came out of my mouth. I just said you walked all over me and you were terrible to me and you made me cry and you were like the worst person I've ever met in my entire life, but I never said you were a horrible friend. I mean, so what's, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, like, what do you think? Like, like what? Because you don't, okay, you don't really like sit down and like think about how other people are feeling. Like you did the exact same thing with Brad and like my biggest thing is like, you need to stop trying to defame him. Like I feel like you're saying that you were like threatened and shocked is like kind of a reach. Oh, and Julie's like, have you considered an apology? She's like, I'm like, I mean, like, what? Like, what are you talking about right now? Guys, I mean, we got to like pinpoint it. Like, I just need to know, like, at this point, I've like said a lot of bullshit. So just tell me which one I want to, you want me to apologize for first, okay? And because like, I mean, you need to be held accountable for the things that you say, even if you think you're saying it in private to people, it's Charleston. And sometimes that doesn't happen. And I've heard for the same story from like multiple people that have nothing to do with this group. And some of the things that you're saying, it's like my jaw drops. And like, a lot of the things that you're saying happened like never even happened. And like, like you were saying that he was like trying to break down your door. Like you said that. I never said that he was trying to break down the door. What? What? What? Not any conversation that I've had with this group. Like, I mean, yeah, I mean, there was like the baker down the street. Like maybe I said that, but they're a baker. Like you're allowed to tell people bakers, you know, you're allowed to say what you want to a baker. Yeah. Bakers. It's like, it's in the name. Like you bake up some shit for them, right? It's obvious. So Julia was like, okay, well, instead of putting words in your mouth, can you just maybe tell us what you think you've said? And then he goes, well, um, all I know is that you were very upset in your text message to me. And you know, I was not naked crying on the bathroom floor. Brad never banged on my door. I did have a panic attack after you not banged on my door when I was naked on the floor though. But I wasn't either of those things. I just was, I called the police. I said, hello, is this the shower please? Because someone's outside my door. I think maybe I'm not sure it could be clean lady. It could be actually just like, like nothing. But I don't know. That's, that's all that happened. I mean, I did have a panic attack after you texted me. So like, I can tell you that she's like, did you have a panic attack because you realized that we heard everything that you said? She's like, um, I didn't know you guys were out there. Okay. Like I did not know that you guys were out there. Okay. I'm always like, yeah, you're kind of missing the point. And Brad says, okay, look, you've been going around the streets of Charleston thinking you're having private conversations saying all these things about me to the point that it made me cry at me. Okay. And then you stab me in my back and you twist the shit and then you keep going deeper and you just keep going deeper and deeper. And she's like, okay, Brad, Brad, I'm so sorry that you stalked me. I'm so, so sorry. Like for, I, I hear like, well, what are you apologizing for? Everything? All the above? Yeah. Crosswalks are so hard. Like who even liked those? Those are so stupid. Like I'm trying to drive. Like, why do I need to make the sign of the cross when I walk? Like that's stupid. Why are you telling me to do that? Like I apologize for that because there's other religions than Christianity. So I apologize. I'm sorry for the word that I used to describe my feelings, because I was like triggering and like, I should know to like get a dictionary to like say, what's another way to say stalking or like, what's another way to say like terrified by a black man? I mean, I don't know. Like maybe I should do that. But, um, you know, like I sparked deep emotions in you and like, I never ever wanted to make you feel that way. Like, until you were behind bars. Um, and, um, so like, I just like, it's just like how I suppressed my emotions. So like, sorry, sorry. He's like, I just want us to coexist. That's all you're going to get out of me right now. Cause that's good. No, that's all I want. I mean, what I'm realizing now is I think I let my frustration about with Brad not having a conversation with me, make me harder and more stubborn. And like, I have to put on my armor and be like, undefense. And I never wanted to get to that point because I thought if I'm getting engaged to a defense lawyer, he would do it for me, right? But I regret deeply the pain that I cause. Um, I regret that I caused some pain after he banged on my door while I was naked in a shower. So I just, I never wanted to make you feel that way. But like, I like, we all know, like I'm, I'm pretty like an emotional person and like, I feel things like so, so deeply. And like, I don't, you know, like, I don't think you like having anxiety or like being in a bad place with other people, you know, like, I don't like that. And Michael says like, but it's not about what you need. Okay. Like you just like, like self-awareness. Like the other night, like you and I had a conversation, but you made it all about yourself. Like, you know, I'm sorry, like I love you, but like, I don't want to make it about you. Like I'm done. I'm over at and she's like, so then every single time, every single time it's the same thing. Yeah. I feel like, like, what's the point of giving you the opportunity to speak if you're just going to like, give me the run around. And that was like, okay, you like guys, let's take a breath. Yeah, everyone, let's breathe. Let's breathe. And Michael's like, like, don't please don't speak. Okay. Like the thing is that you only speak whenever it's Emmy having an emotional reaction. And like, I said to you in the van today, I said, I wish you rode for me as hard as you ride for Jordan. And I said that. And I said, like that you straight up. And like, I don't want to hear it. Like I don't want to hear it. I don't want to hear it. I'm just like, but I do ride for you. He's like, no, I don't want to hear it. Okay. I don't want to hear it late. But also like Michael's, you treated her like, like, like such a few weeks ago. And now you're expecting like blind loyalty from her. I mean, I kind of do think that she should ride for Michael's in this situation. I don't think that Emmy is the one that anyone should be riding for. But sometimes I feel like Michael's doesn't realize how like when, when he shuts down, he's, when he's upset at someone, how like that is like, maybe like, like, is like, I don't know if I'm going to ride hard for you because I don't know when this is going to turn against me. Yeah. And Emily's just over there hyperventilating and me and Julie are cracking up across the table or whatever. So Lake says, you know, when Michael's is upset with somebody, he just like, well, straight up shut them out and like ignore them, but like just talk to her, you know, he's like, I'm not in a place where I want to have a conversation. I just want to like bring it up at dinner and like yell at you about it and then not talk about it. Like what? You're the one who keeps bringing it up. So if you don't want to have a conversation about it, then stop bringing it up every episode because it's now episode 11. I mean, frankly, I don't even know why Amy's here. I feel like they should have just gotten rid of Emmy. Like if Emmy's not going to be able to like come, just come out and apologize and do whatever she needs to do to get through it, then she shouldn't even be on the show because this is pretty bad. You know, yeah, this is like a micro aggression that has like continued for the entire season. It's like shocking. I mean, even like Ramona is able to, when she has a micro aggression, usually within like one or two episodes, she's able to like throw some sort of, you know, perfunctory apology on it. That way they can all move on. But Emmy is like, I feel like I've never seen a micro aggression drag on this long for an entire season on one of these shows. Yeah, it's crazy. So like if she can't take responsibility or do whatever, just put her on time out, get rid of her. 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On the other hand, you've got Michaels who's like keeps bringing it up and then he's like, oh my God, why are we still talking about this? Yeah, I was wondering what like this is a weird one because Michaels was trying to explain to Emmy a few episodes ago, like his lived experience as a man of color at who has like dealt with microaggressions and things and he's trying to explain it to her and she just kept on making it about herself in that moment. And it was like very, very frustrating for him where he's like, you know, we're not getting anywhere. And so I feel like I understand why he's like really upset and mad at Emmy because she's proven to be like a really insensitive friend in that moment and maybe not even a friend at all. And so I get that. So I think it's weird that like everyone's saying to Michaels, you've got to sock, you got to talk, you got to talk to her, you got to talk to her. It's like, like, how much does he owe her? Like he doesn't have to educate her. And like at this point, like what if we learned anything from 2020? I mean, in some ways, I think we have her learn nothing. But also like at a certain point, Emmy just has to do the work and it's not up to Michaels to like babysit her the entire time. So I thought it was a little weird that everyone was telling like, Michaels, you have to talk to her, you have to talk to her, you have to talk to her. I mean, maybe they were saying you guys really love each other. So like hash it out. But like, I think it puts him in a really weird position to be honest. Yeah, well, it's just like causing it's just it's starting another thing in another episode where it's like, let's try and talk to Emmy about this thing again. It's like, she's never going to learn this. She's just never going to learn this. I think you guys just need to stop hanging out with her. Because at this point, it's like, okay, here's another trip. Okay, let's ruin another dinner by like coming at Emmy about this thing she's never going to admit to, you know. So I just think it's like beating your head against a wall, basically. So anyway, he's like, I don't want to hear it late. So now he's coming for late kind of. And so TJ's is like, Michaels, I need the I hear you, but you need to talk. And they're like, yeah, just straight shoot it and be done. Just be done with it. So this is where they're like, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk. And TJ is like, yeah, I don't think you can tell everyone else they have to make up. But then like, you can't talk to her. And so like, I think I almost wonder if like, maybe this is like a reaction to that situation with Lake where he was mad at Lake, but he wouldn't actually tell Lake why he was mad at her. And so they're like, okay, we have another situation like, Michaels grow from the previous situation with Lake. And this time talk, say, say what's on your mind. But I just feel like this is like a little bit of an extenuating circumstance where I'm like, I actually don't think he's really that obligated. I think he really did say it. And like he's allowed. And yeah, I think you just tried to say like, you make it all about yourself. It's really frustrating for me. And I think it's sort of, I think in this specific situation with Emmy, I kind of don't know if he really does. He owes her like a whole conversation. He's already given her the conversation. He said they talked or she wouldn't cop to it. Then he got upset with her again over dinner. Then that didn't work out. Then it's like, again, you know, and they're like, talk about it some more. I think a lot of it too is just they don't really have anything else going on this season, except for this. Like that's the only plot really, except for like, maybe Justin's gonna fuck that Rouge girl or like, they don't really, none of the cast that sitting at the table has anything right now. So they're like, do it again, talk some more. And it's like, okay, guys, you're just, you're just do something else. You guys have a responsibility to do something on this show too, for Christ's sake. So he's like, okay, then you can speak Emmy. I'll listen to you. And she's like, I don't like it. Like, I don't think you will. Like, I don't think you will. Yeah, because it's always about what you need. Meanwhile, Mia's cracking up because Emmy is being so hysterical. She's being so over the top with her. And like, Mia just cannot stop laughing. Julia cannot stop laughing. And he's like, I just don't know, like why you're so upset with me. And Michael's like, because it's always about what you need. I'm sorry, like I'm going through, like, you know, like, I didn't ask for anything to go this way. Like I didn't ask for my life to be like this. Like I did not ask for my life to be a shit show. You know, like I didn't ask for this past two fucking years to happen to me. Like I'm so sorry. Like I'm too much as a friend or like, so see, Emmy, there you go. It's like, oh, it's so hard for me. And this whole two years has just been so hard for me. Yeah, I do it. She's she is my incapable. Michael's is like, I never said you were too much as a friend. I just said that you like I said that like you lock self awareness. And like, you make things about yourself. Okay. And they say, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know I can. Yep. But like, look, I listened to you, Michael likes, I know, it's like a lie. It's like Molly goes, I think there's a difference between hearing and listening. She's like, and Michael's like, what, that's what my issue is. And he's like, I just like, I just like, I don't know what I've done to be a bad friend. All I do is listen to you. Like, you don't know how hard it is for me to listen to you. Do you know how hard it is for me to listen to you? Will's not even here because normally Will listens for me. And then he tells me, but now I've got to listen. It's hard. I did say you were a bad friend. And so now there's a cat there. You know, there's like one of those like neighborhood cats and it's just sitting there and watching them. And Maddie gets a terrified look on her face. And then he's just like, but Michael's like, you said that you like wore a shirt because like, all I do is walk all over you. Like, what? And he's like, um, that's your interpretation of what I said. But that is what you said though. You said that, Michael's like, literally what you said. Literally said it. It was a whole thing. She's like, okay, then what kind of friend do you think I am? He's not the best one right now. Okay. So I'm not like the best friend right now. Like, that's that deep. That like stab deep, that kind of vein, you know, like, how am I being so like, like, how am I being about me right now? Like, it's like, I'm not at all like Maddie, are you, by the way, are you scared of the cat? Cause there's like a cat right there. I am. Yes. So Maddie says that she's afraid of cats. And Maddie's like, no, like Joe, Joe, go out to the cat, go out to the cat. So that means like, okay, guys, I'm still crying. So Michael's, I just, Michael's, I think you're like missing the point of the conversation, which was actually that like, I'm going through a lot right now. He's like, no, you're missing the point. You're the one missing the point. He's like, no, no, it's like, it's just like, no, I've done everything for you. Like, I don't know. I like, I've done so much for you. I'm doing everything. But everyone's totally distracted by the cat now, because Maddie is like making a scene about it. So now no one's paying attention to me. Maddie's like standing up on the chair like, oh my God, I don't know where cats have been. Like, where have the cats been? Like they've been all over the town. They're like street cats. You hang out with this cast. Yeah. And he goes, trust me, I mean, I've had my faults and my friendships with people at the table, but like, you think I would do anything to like try to like hurt and disrespect you? Like I love you. You don't understand how hard it is for me to love you because it's so scary. I'm someone who gets stalked in hotel rooms. Okay. And so for me to open my heart is very hard because I'm afraid to open up even my hotel door. Oh my God. The cat's running. The cat's running now. The cat's running. Oh my God. Oh my God. Get the cat, Joe. Joe, don't be nice to the cat or it's going to keep coming back. Joe. Okay. It's like Grace Lilly. Okay. Give it a lunch. Give it a lunch. Shoo. Shoo cat. Go. So, I mean, it's like now, now, now, now, Michael's is just totally not listening to us. I mean, it's like, not only is Michael's not even listening to me. He's publicly humiliated me and I would never treat my best friend like that. So, yeah, she's like, I just need a moment. I need some time. I need a moment. I'm publicly humiliated. So yeah, she goes, she's like, I need a moment now. So she leaves and Joe's like, um, you want to go like on a walk or something? And she's like, yeah. No tears as usual. And he's like, okay, is it just too much for you? And meanwhile, Maddie's like, oh my God, that thing looks like a cheetah. It is a cheetah. It's secretly a cheetah. Run, run. It's just a fist, by the way. It's so small. It's like this cute little kitten. Yeah. It's like cute little cat. So Joe and Emmy are walking and Emmy is of course sobbing. She's like, I don't know why I do this to myself. I don't know why that. So Joe's like, it's too much. It's a lot. Every year, every, every year, every year I do this to myself. Yeah. And so back at the table, everyone's telling Michaels, he needs to talk to Emmy enough. He doesn't need to talk to Emmy. Jesus Christ. He's like, what's the point of having a conversation? Like she doesn't give a fuck what you have to say. I'm wasting my breath enough. And TJ's like, well, I understand what you're saying. Not the listening part, but I don't think she can walk all over you. I mean, you are pretty loud. So I guess, God, dumb. I'm loud. And it's like, yeah, they're all like, yeah, you're loud. So then Molly's like, well, I do understand what it's like to be screamed at and embarrassed in front of a group of people from Michaels. So I sympathize with Emmy. Oh, what a shocker. Yeah. What a shocker. Nancy Grace is going to sympathize with Emmy. I get, didn't see that one coming. So Emmy tells Joe while they're on their walk, just because like I don't have my fiancé here to fucking defend me. Like it's just like, I'm like, just this like easy pigeon for people to like pick off of me, you know, you know, those classic pigeon, you know how people pick off pigeons, you know, they go to pigeons, pick them up off the ground and just like pull their feathers off. That's me. Classic city pigeon life right here. And if he was here, like he just fucking, if we'll we're here, he just fucking destroy all these people just like he did last year in my honor. Remember, remember when he did that in my honor? Remember when he showed up to the reunion and laid everybody out for me? Oh yeah, that's right. He ditched it because he was a wuss. And Joe's like, well, I mean, yeah, I don't think Joe really, I mean, I don't think Will has the best track record of being there for Emmy. Like he's never like looked at one of her necklaces and been like, whoa, that's starfish, right? So like, I think the only thing Will can do is like, you know, advisor to remain silent. So Mia is like, look, Michaels, I don't know if this is the way that you talk because you talk kind of in riddles, like whatever, like I don't have a voice and I feel walked over. I like, I think that like if I had an issue with TJ, if I had an issue with Molly, if I had an issue with Bradley or anybody, I would just say, Hey, you fuck me by doing this. I don't like it. Fix it. And then we'd be friends again. He's like, yeah, but like riddle me this. Okay. I am a doctor and I'm, and I'm, but I'm not the dad of the patient, but the patient's my child. Like how's that possible? So you're doing a riddle that the doctor is the mom. That's a very old fashioned riddle where people were shocked that doctors were women. You've got to really keep up with your riddle game, Michaels. I'm actually really impressed that you got that. Okay. But the point is like you, you have to like just say what's on your mind. I mean, I get it, but he did say what's on his mind, didn't he? I think so. I'm like, listen, you're good. You gave a microaggression. Then you refuse to apologize for it and I'm black. So you, you acting like microaggressions are no big deal, affects me as well. Cause it's like you're shitting all over me by denying that it would be hurtful or, you know, I mean, I think he said that in so many words. Did he not? I think he pretty much said it. He was like, this is an extremely sensitive topic. We're talking about race right now. And this is can be bigger than whatever it is that you're upset about, but you're somehow making what you're going through bigger than this moment. And like, you really can't do that. And she just was not able to hear that at all. Yeah. So then Joe and Emmy are still talking and she's like, oh my god, like who the fuck wears a shirt that says this represents you walking all over me? Like who does that? And he's like, well, you know, it's cause he's a drama queen, you know, he just wants to make the trip about himself. So that's why Sammy's like, yeah, I don't need a person like that in my life. You don't need someone who makes every moment about them in their, in your life. Got it at me. So Joe's like, yeah, the differences I think that like with Michaels, he actually like loves you. He does. Yeah. He actually like, he, when we were coming to this trip, he said he originally packed that fishnet because he felt like you could see right through him to his soul. So he changed it up. He did sand and like you walk on sand, but like at one point it was all. So he loves you. Yeah. So he's like, I understand if you don't want to make it to Maddie's thing or whatever. So back at the table, they're talking about Maddie's gig. It's almost time to go, but she needs her phone. They got to go cause it's time to shot, shot, shots. So they give a cheers to her and her gig. And then Julie is like, I'm not taking that shot. And he just like, pussy. So now everybody gets up to leave and go to this gig. And Emmy's like thanking Joe for talking to her. He's like, you're going to be fine. You're going to be fine. Like I hate to see you at the dinner table like that. It's like so hard. Yeah. Well, I'm fucking like easy pickings. Like God forbid, like if we were there, like everyone would shut the fuck up in two seconds, right? Cause classic will always shutting people up all the time cause he's a lawyer. So now they go to this gig and Maddie's anxious, but everyone's dancing and she's having a great time. So she does her gig basically and everybody dances around. And they have a lot of like synchronized dancing, like a lot of choreograph dancing, which I found very important. Was lion, lion dancing. Yeah. They have like, it's exciting. Yeah. And I would love that if I was doing something and there was like choreography. So they're like, whoa, look, look at that. That's amazing. And Bella goes, Bella goes, yes, that's, that's mad that Joe, that's your girlfriend. And he's like, yeah, we have an X all week, but that's my girlfriend. Yeah. For sure. Like one more day we probably won't be boyfriend girlfriend, but like for right now still doing pretty well. She threw something on my dad's that I needed. It was like a pencil eraser. I haven't been able to erase anything in a long time, but she's my girlfriend. She's, she still is you guys. Yeah. Yeah. So then Molly goes to check in on Emmy and Molly is like, hey, I want to check on you. And Emmy is like, thank you. Cause like, do you want to sit right here? Like us, us white blonde girls have to stick together, you know, and Molly's like, yeah, I mean, I don't know what you're going through, but I understand the wrath of Michael's when it comes to having your friendship like torn apart. So like I'm here for you. And she's like, oh good. I need my best, I need my best friend. And it's like me and TJ, like at our worst, never talk to each other like that. And like me and Brad at our worst, like, I know I'm reactive, but like I'm reacting to people who've hurt me. And like, I don't yell at my best friend. Like when you care and you love a person, you reel it in or you accuse them of stalking your hotel room. It's one of those two things. Yeah. You know, like, I just think like Michael's like, he has like a hard time like taking accountability for his actions. Oh, okay. Okay. I mean, I'm always like, yeah, everything you're saying, I feel the same way about Michael's. And I always knew there was something fishy about him because a girl from that neighborhood went missing. And I'm sure if you look in his trunk, you will find that little girl. Okay. That's a crease. Okay. Calm down. Okay. I just like, I think you were, I look, I just want to say this. Like, I don't think that you were wrong with like a lot of the hurt that you felt with Michael's because like, well, what I was told by him, like you were very valid. I'm just going to say that. I'm just going to say that. So Molly's like, well, what do you mean by that? Was that, was that proper English? She goes, okay. Well, your whole issue with Michael's being a part of your firing, he's the AG, he's the attorney general. I had no idea. No, assistant general manager, AGM. He didn't let me finish. He's a managerial position. And he was asked his opinion on if you should be fired. And it was a yes. And Molly's like, ah, he is told, he told me he had nothing to do with it. And he fought for me. And so we see a flashback of Michael's being like, I'm like, I've been like defending your honor even when you're not there. Like I did not even find out, find out about your firing until the morning of. Now, why is Molly going to just like believe this, this face value from Emmy, someone that she has just recently, like last episode reminded us that she's always had a frosty relationship with her. They never got along. And we always treated her like shit. And we called her like a fucking bitch on TV. And now all of a sudden, Emmy gives her this information about the person that she's beefing with and Molly just going to take it face value. And yeah, she knows what Emmy's doing here. I mean, she should be smart enough to know what Emmy is doing here. But you know, Molly has always loved to jump on anything to try and make a story. She's trying so hard. I mean, Molly, God bless her. She, you can't look, you can say, you can look at Molly and be like, Molly's boring or like Molly sucks or Molly's like Nancy Grace, whatever. But you can't say Molly doesn't try and Molly is going to try. You give her a little, a little inch of, she's going to take a mile and she's going to go, she's going to run with it. So here she goes. She will. So she's like, she's like, I fucking knew it. Michaels has been lying to my face. And if there's anyone who would know this information, it would be Emmy. Emmy is the closest person to Michaels and I'm pissed. I'm hurt. I'm heartbroken. And why was she fired again? I forget what she did. Why did she get fired? Do you remember? I don't remember. Did she, I thought it was because she was missing work too much for her other job. Southern house and planning. I honestly don't remember. I really don't remember. Why did they should like fired brought this up like one more time in the middle of the season. So we remembered. Yeah, I think so too. Because I don't remember what it is. So anyway, so, but you got fired. I mean, ultimately it was the people who fired you, Leva and all of them. So even if he agreed to fire you, you were apparently doing stuff that was fireable, right? I don't know. I don't remember. Well, Emmy tells us, Emmy tells us, I know what it's like to have a gut feeling that you're in the right and have everyone gaslight you telling you that you're wrong. So I'm just like, yeah, we're going to be honest because I've got to be honest. Honestly, the best policy. I'm like, if this is a reference to Will cheating lady, there's a lot of people saying that he's cheated. At some point you have to like take the blinders off. Will is cheating on you. Will has been cheating on you. Oh my God. And honesty is your best policy. You were saying that Brad was beating down the door and that you were naked on the floor terrified. Get out of here. So now they're friends. That's all it took. So Michael's is, you know, everybody else has enjoyed the gig. And they're like, oh my God, Maddie's doing so great. So she finishes the gig and they all jump in the pool and swim together. And Emmy gets in there and everyone else is cheering and having fun. And she's just kind of like waiting close to them like, no, everybody's on me to me. Yeah. So then now we're back in Charleston. Okay, it was a fun trip. And now we're back in Charleston. And TJ is on FaceTime with his mom, Stephanie. And she's like, Hey, what are you doing? Did you just get home? Have you vacuumed yet? He's like, yeah. So as I got off the plane, oh good. Did everyone behave? Yeah, for the most part. And then we see Justin, he's face having his mom, Mary up in Boston. And she's like, so I never even got to talk to you. And she's like, yeah, I know mom was fun. Like we're drinking. It's good times. Oh, yeah, I love hearing that you talked to that girl that you're in love with. Yeah, that was great. I love my mom. She's a rock growing up. She's the matriarch. She was tough Irish Catholic, Boston woman. I remember this one time this girl literally left underwear in my mom's car. And my mom said, Hey, what are you doing with this underwear? And I said, what underwear? Because this underwear is this your aunt's? I was like, yeah, it is. It is my aunt's because I knew you had a thing for my sister. It was weird. It was real weird, weird moment for us. So he's talking about Charlie and he's like, yeah, I know you love her mom because, you know, the green flag for you is a red flag for me. She's like, Oh, God is the tail of Swift. God, that's a definite check for me. That puts it at the top of the list. I love Taylor. Yeah, he's like, really? It's like, Oh, yeah, I can't wait to meet her. Yeah. And he's like, yeah, I'm well, I'm sure I'll bring her up to Boston. No, I'm talking about fucking Taylor Swift. I want to meet her. God. So now it's time for a shift at Republic, everybody. And Joe's like, Oh, here, TJ, I'll try to tie feel. I'll show you how to do it. Look, look at this as a mouse. The mouse goes around the tree two times and then the mouse goes up the tree and then the mouse goes into the hole and then the mouse has a couple of drinks and the mouse comes back out and the mouse's girlfriend's like, you're an alcoholic. It's like, well, nobody gave me a business. But why are the mouse going to the hole? What's why is the mouse going up the tree? If it's just going to go down into the whole job? Well, like it needs to like tell everyone that there's like an emo party in the hole and then has to go to the hole to host the party. So Mike's like, well, wait, you don't know how to tie a tie. He's like, no, bitch, we know you do because you're half lesbian. So Maddy's asking me if she and Michaels have talked yet and definitely not. I mean, it's like, I would be doing myself a disservice if I just act like everything was fine. And the way that he treated me was fine because it's not like. And Maddy's like, I definitely agree. He was like a little harsh. Oh my God, you guys. What do you he was not harsh. It was not. This wasn't one of the Michaels screaming at women things that we've seen. I didn't feel like it was. Did you? I mean, we've seen it a couple of times this season and called him out on it, but I didn't think this was that really. I thought he I thought he actually kind of learned his lesson and kind of stayed somewhat calm through this. Yeah. I mean, unless, unless there was something else, I know at the beginning of the trip before they even had their talk, he was being really frosty to her. So he was doing the same thing where he's like, I'm not going to say, well, I'm mad at you. I'm just going to be mad at you. And she was like, why is Michael's mad at me? So that was a thing that happened earlier in the trip, but yeah, he's definitely still not sure. Yeah. So Joe's working the line outside. And he's like, I love where I'm at right now. And I'm feeling like we're on our jobs after our vacation, after like my awesome event that I threw and I just feel like everything's like falling back to place. I like take away my chronic back pain, like 30s, like not so bad. You know, where we should watch the game. We should, we have a sporting club club Lamar. So we're going to watch it. So love is here now. I'm dressed crazy. I don't love a need some help with her outfits on there. She don't, I think. So they're like, oh my God, love out of the queen of Republic. So Michael's just talking about the trip and he's like, yeah, you know, like there's been drama going on, but I try to make sure that Lava doesn't hear about it, you know, like leave the shit outside of work. So he's telling her it was fun. And, you know, and Brad's like, yeah, we had a great time. I love, I was like, uh-huh. Okay. So Joe comes up and he's like, it's been a crazy few weeks, but I'm like so glad to be back at work. I can not wait for you to give me my own business. This is going to be great. You know, you're not going to regret this Lava. You're not going to regret this. Yeah. Now that I've been like back at my job for like a day, I just feel like I have this new fan fire. I feel like I care more about my career. So here's my hand and you just put the keys right in there, right in there. And I'll just go and start the business. So yeah, right. It's ready. I'm ready. I'm ready for something bigger now, you know, like after taking a four day weekend, uh, during the busiest time at the restaurant to go see my girlfriend, DJ, which is what you don't like. Um, yeah, I'm ready for you to give me a business ready for something bigger. And she goes, yeah, well, I feel like, you know, you put your mind to anything and that could happen. So yeah. Um, well, there's like other people that are hitting me up and I'm just like, there's no way I'm going to do this for the first time without people that I love and trust the most. So like there's no land. I'm just going to like get back there. And I just think that like, no, I can just do like two more tables, you know, like that's like that. She's like, Oh, I love seeing it. And if you were just trying to make me feel like you were using other people as leverage for me, like that didn't work. 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Kick off your tournament journey the Panini way by collecting all your favorite players stickers from all 48 qualified teams out now at retailers nationwide and at panini.co.uk. It all starts with Panini. So now we have date night with Lake and Jo Nessa. And they're just like giggling at each other like, haha, you're cute. You're cute. No, you're cute. No, you're cute. Like I was like such a bitch to you the first time we met. Yeah, it was crazy because I was like so nervous. You're like so pretty. And I was like, maybe she's by her gay or something. And so I'm like, okay, I'm going to do it. So like you're coming in, you're walking towards me. And I was like, you need a drink. And then you're like, I'm working. It's like, Oh, sorry. Yeah, like, wow. What by the way, when did you and your ex break up? It's like about a year ago. Yeah. Wow. You know, for me, I was like really young when I had my first real relationship, because I was secretly date girls that they could spend the night at my house and then my mom caught on pretty quick and she would FaceTime me, which was crazy because they didn't even have FaceTime back then. But like somehow my mom just had it. And she'd be like, Lake, what the hell are you doing? So I was like, cool, but my dad didn't like it. Yeah. And they talk about how her dad's still a homophobe. And he thinks that she's just like doing all of this to be like rebellious. And so she's just going to be patient with her dad, I guess. She's like, well, you can't change him. And so then they're like, Oh my God, your eyes are so pretty. No, your eyes. And then they kiss outside. Lake's like, fuck it, we're going to do it. And they kiss on camera. So then Grace Lily time. Grace Lily is where everybody, the, the, you know, the total environment, everybody wants to get their cards read a nice dark room with some patchouli going and some candles and lots of scarves. Nope. It's Zax Dax. Yeah. To get their cards read at Zax Dax. I don't know, but she there she is at Zachary Zachary Zachary. So love explains to us, you know, although Grace hasn't worked for us for a couple years, she did mention that she wants to get back to it and get back into work. And the nightlife business wasn't the best environment for her. And I just want to inspire and have her to have something. And, but in a space that like isn't late night, I just don't want her to be tempted by, you know, booze, and alcohol everywhere. So we put her in a place that has 12 different daiquiri machines flowing at once. You know, she's just so childlike and she's just love substances too much. So we're putting her in a place full of substances that are childlike in color to really get her excited about not drinking anymore. Okay. All right. So meanwhile Grace is reading the cards and she's like, Oh my God, I sent something fiery. The girl's like, Oh my God, that's so mean. She's like, Yeah, glad I could help. God, this is a good one. So then everyone else start. Well, Joe and Maddie's show up because they're there to see Ally because Ally is going to be performing and singing at Zachary Zachary Zachary's. This is like the peach pit or that place on the OC where they'd watch bands like why? So you come to Zachary Zachary's for frozen drinks, but also to get your tarot cards read and also to watch a singer songwriter strum on her guitar and sing. Love is just like anybody even interested in reality TV here to bring in people. Please bring in as many people as we can. I don't care. I don't care. I don't care if it's the Ally girl that nobody knew from Vanderpump rules. Bring her in here. Okay. Bring in the Bella of Vanderpump rules. So Maddie's like, I know Ally because I DJed with her ex all the time and her family lives here in Charleston. So I'm like excited that she's in town and that she's here singing at the premier concert venue of Zachary Zachary's. Yeah, James must have known that she was going to have her big moment this week at Zach's stacks because he announced that he's found the wine guys. He stated somebody for like four weeks and he's found the one I saw it on some headline. I was like, James the still in headlines. No one asked for this. Are they having a child together? Are they? Oh my gosh. I guess maybe I should read the headlines. Yeah, I think there are, I think it says Ally Lubershock James Kennedy baby news. So the baby news is the following, which is that I think he's expecting some sort of, I think he's expecting a child. Yikes. So, wow. So then Grace Lily is now doing her reading and she's two of the pentacles. That's yin and yang. Okay. You know what that is? Those are like two worms, but they're giving each other the 69. You ever see them on skateboards or anything like that? So basically you're a skateboarder. Watch out though because traffic is terrifying. And the girl's like, Oh my God. Okay. Thanks. I'll never skateboard. Okay. My board here's done. Wow. I wasn't expecting to see Grace here. I mean, she's been a horrible friend to Maddie. So it's like a little awkward. I mean, the things that she told Maddie to do like to peg me, like that was terrible. So Grace is like, yeah, it's definitely awkward seeing Maddie and Joe. And I do want to extend this olive branch because I've been thinking a lot about this olive branch. This is my second olive branch. The first one I accidentally dropped into Akari machine. Real weird. Yeah. I've been thinking about this olive branch and I don't know. I just want this to be a really good olive branch. Cause you know, I actually don't like olives, but I do love branches. And I thought, well, take the good, take the bad, you know, taking both and there you have olive branches of life. So Grace, Joe's just ignoring her. Joe and Maddie are ignoring her, but Grace comes up to stand right next to them and they still ignore her. She's like, love your shirt. It's like, Oh, thank you. And your pants. Okay. I appreciate that. Everything good with you? Yeah. It's actually good. I've been in a really good place. I've been thinking about all the branches. Okay. Really into all the branches right now. It's like, well, obviously like I clearly care about you and I love you a lot, but we're both pretty hard. So my butt specifically. Yeah. Well, I was also hurt. Okay. Cause I showed up at a theme party and no one told me about that was slumbers. Okay. I love that she's holding onto this. It's so fucking funny to me. Now tell me as a pajama party, how am I supposed to feel? Well, I'm just going to say hi and I, I'm just going to say hi. I'm going to do it. I'm going to say hello. Hi, hi, hi. It's me. Oh, I didn't know if you wanted to chat for a second. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. We can chat. Okay. Yeah. Let's go outside. It's nice out here. Hey, so it's been over a month since, you know, uh, I saw, I saw Maddie. Yeah. It's been over a month since I, Grace and I last spoke and I'm concerned. Yeah. So, uh, did anyone, uh, did anyone apologize to Joe? Did she apologize? As you Joe, he's like, Oh really? No, she didn't even compliment you on your star for shareings, which was too bad. So they sit down and Grace is like, I miss you. Like I feel it's been a while. Hmm. Like I haven't even seen you so long. Like the other day I was hula-hooping out on my front lawn. You weren't even there clapping for me. That was weird. So thanks for missing that show. But you know, it's been such a crazy summer. I mean, I don't know. I just really want to start off by saying I really am sorry. What's what happened that night at Molly's house? I mean, yes, my feelings were hurt, but you know, I hurt your feelings. Now your feelings were hurt while you were wearing pajamas. So you didn't feel stupid like I did. My feelings were hurt. So one of us felt stupider than the other person because they weren't in pajamas, but you know, whatever. I know why you're hurting. I know why you're hurting, um, because you did, did just get a new pajama set and you weren't able to wear it, but like it doesn't give me a reason to feel like you can just like walk all over me all the same time. The reason why I wore this top is because it's like reminiscent of sand and you walked all over the sand at one point in your life in Tulum and that's like the, this is Tulum sand that I'm, what are you talking about? I don't know. I was trying something and just forget it. Yeah, but okay, Maddie, if I could go in time, I would unshoot John Frank Kennedy because he was very handsome and handsome people shouldn't get shot. Okay. And also I wouldn't hurt your feelings. Okay. Cause I think the emotions were high, you know, and you didn't tell me like it's a pajama party and I showed up and I just felt like fool, you know? Well, I feel like I'm trying to be a good friend and I feel like you're throwing daggers at me and they trying to hurt me. No, that's not what I'm doing, Maddie. You know, as someone that's been through drug addiction, right? You know, my struggles, you know, the things that've been through, but I haven't been doing a lot better. I'm doing real good now. Okay. And I'm not asking for help. I'm actually getting help and I'm not asking for help. Is that nice? It's like, well, I mean, I do hope that that's the case. And like, I hope that you do like get that and follow through. Yeah, but it is the case because I'm made with Isaac. Okay. I don't know if you know him in the community, but he's like a drug and alcohol person. And then I've done NA meetings, you know, and that's where you just sit around and go, nah, nah, you know, I'm going to therapy, noon, those kinds of things, you know, stuff like that. I took the train last week. That's not their hearing or there, but it was fine. We don't have a train. Oh, what was that? I don't know. But Grace, you know, Grace has told me a million times over the past six years that she's going to get help with this and she never has. She's always just been on a journey and this journey hasn't ever, ever come to a destination. So it's hard to believe right now that this is the time that she's clean now. Yeah, but I've been sober though, but I've been sober. So I think that like where we just move from here is like me seeing those actions of you actually getting help. Oh, okay. You want me pissing the cup and show it to you? Okay. It'll probably taste like something out of here. Have you tasted this stuff? It's terrible. It's terrible. Well, I would have loved to have seen a drug test maybe on girls night. She's like, well, I wouldn't on drugs that night though, because I only had two glasses to one that night. That's different, you know, and it's immediately like, of course, you're like, oh, you're not sober. Like people do not get not sober from a couple glasses of wine. Maddie's journey was different. I think that sometimes like she kind of envies maybe people that are able to have a drink, right? She sort of was like, Maddie's just sort of like jealous of my sober journey, I guess, because she can't have one at all. But I'm like on my own journey and like I'm doing better for myself and like, you know, God has a plan and it's for me to have rose that's what his plan is. Okay. So this is interesting because she's like, I'm totally, I'm totally in touch with my addiction, which is why I can still have a drink and be fine with it. Sorry, you can't. It's very interesting because there are different, you know, ways that people get sober. Some people are not really alcoholics. They're just drug addicts. So not doing the drug anymore is maybe their version. But it is interesting because Maddie is sober, sober, and she's she's talking to this girl is like, Oh, I'm sober. I'm sober that now. I had was a couple glasses of wine. So that of course rings as total bullshit to Maddie. She's like, okay, what conversation are we having right now? Lady? Yeah. So Grace is like, then Maddie's like, well, two days before you were doing something when I picked you up and she's like, no, no, no, that not yet you picked me up. I was drinking. It's like, she's like, that's not true. I was there. She is true. She know you told me you relapsed. She's like, Maddie, no, I was, I was considering relapsing, but I didn't relapse. No, you said you relapsed. I was like, how do you know that you weren't with me? You don't know if our relapse or not. But I was with you. I came to pick you up. I was with you and you told me. And so she tells us a few days before the girls and gays party, Grace reached out saying she needs help and she's in a situation where she's too fucked up. So Maddie picked her up and took her to her house and took care of her. And she bathed her that night and she was fucked up out of her mind. Oh, Grace. Oh my gosh. Yeah. I mean, Grace's story is sad because we do see, we saw that she did get help, but we also know the real life headlines, which is that she's been arrested once or twice now since this. It's just been a rough journey for her. So she says that she wasn't using that weekend and she's like, she didn't see me. I have any drugs on me, anything that that pieces me off. I slept over at her house. There's nothing wrong with that. She's supposed to be my friend. Babe, it's, there is when you're so fucked up, you have to be picked up. And then she has to literally bathe you. So God, Grace. So Maddie's like, you know, I give her headphones to listen to like ocean and meditation because that helps me go to sleep, you know? And I think she took that as me like putting her off or something, but I don't know. So Grace is like, yeah. And then the whole time she's on her phone watching the Osborns. Maddie goes, yeah, because that was the week that Ozzy Osborn died. So I was watching the Osborns a lot. Like what the hell? Maddie's like, okay, you've been up for two days and you relapsed. Okay. During the Ozzy Osborn marathon. No, I had no drugs on me that night. I was not doing drugs. I've been drinking that night. I was just wasted. That's all, but not on drugs. Yeah, but Grace, if you're so wasted, even on alcohol that you're up for two days straight and still need to be picked up and bathed, that's a, that's a problem, babe. Oh, I hate this for Grace Silly. I love Grace Silly. So she's like, okay, do you want me to grab Joe? Because like Joe literally was in the car there. Okay. And she's like, nah, and no matter what, you guys are always going to take each other's side. So whatever. That's nothing to do with that. Yeah. Well, I just feel like we should end the conversation. Yeah. Okay. Fine. Fine. Fine. Fine. So Maddie gets up and goes inside and Grace is like, yeah, I was hoping for some support from her. I didn't get that, unfortunately. And that's fine. Like, I don't need everybody's fucking support. Oh, bomber. Yeah, I think it's got to be very tough to be around Grace. And she probably does take a lot of energy and effort. And she does lash out. But I also feel like she's like a very lonely soul. And I do, I actually am like really concerned for her. Yeah. Oh, Grace, come on, Grace, we're rooting for you, lady. Yeah. But in the meantime, we are done with this episode. Thanks everyone for listening and we'll catch you on the next episode of Watch What Crappens. Bye, everyone. Bye. Watch What Crappens would like to thank its premium sponsors. 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