Checking In With Lou Sassel Before The Holidays
65 min
•Dec 18, 20256 months agoSummary
Brooke and Connor record their final podcast episode before the holiday break while both recovering from illness. The hosts discuss their recent experiences in Los Angeles, including visits to upscale restaurants and gay bars, their obsession with the TV series Heated Rivalry, and various personal anecdotes ranging from childhood memories to New Year's resolutions.
Insights
- Parasocial relationships with fictional characters and actors can drive significant engagement and fandom behavior, as evidenced by the hosts' intense investment in Heated Rivalry cast members
- AI-generated content ('AI slop') has become a form of entertainment that audiences consume despite recognizing its low quality, suggesting a shift in content consumption standards
- Personal connection and authenticity in media (actors showing genuine friendship) resonates more strongly with audiences than traditional celebrity mystique
- Podcast hosts can build community by sharing vulnerable moments (being sick, personal struggles) rather than maintaining a polished persona
- Social media platforms like TikTok Shop are becoming primary shopping destinations for younger audiences, disrupting traditional retail
Trends
Increased mainstream acceptance and visibility of LGBTQ+ entertainment and venues in popular cultureStreaming series renewal based on early episode performance and fan engagement metricsCelebrity parasocial relationships intensifying through social media and behind-the-scenes content accessAI-generated content becoming normalized as casual entertainment despite quality concernsTikTok Shop emerging as a viable e-commerce platform for consumer goods and niche productsYounger audiences prioritizing authenticity and vulnerability in podcast and media consumptionGay bars and LGBTQ+ venues becoming mainstream entertainment destinationsBook-to-screen adaptations driving fandom across multiple media formats simultaneously
Topics
Heated Rivalry TV series and fandomLGBTQ+ entertainment and representationParasocial relationships with celebrities and fictional charactersAI-generated content and quality concernsTikTok Shop as e-commerce platformPodcast authenticity and vulnerabilityHoliday traditions and celebrationsNew Year's resolutions and personal goalsMental health and ADHD awarenessRestaurant and dining experiences in Los AngelesGay bar culture in West HollywoodBook-to-screen adaptationsCelebrity crush cultureNarcissism self-assessmentChildhood memories and formative experiences
Companies
Disney Plus
Mentioned as platform featuring shows like Rivals and High Potential in pre-roll advertisement
TikTok Shop
Referenced multiple times as shopping platform where hosts purchased miso soup, bananas, and custom pillows
Target
Mentioned as source of produce that hosts found questionable in quality
Netflix
Discussed as streaming service available on hotel TVs and for watching Heated Rivalry
Merriam-Webster
Referenced for naming 'slop' as the 2025 word of the year, relating to AI-generated content
Waldorf Astoria
Mentioned as upscale restaurant where host dined and experienced digestive issues
Hellstone
Sushi restaurant in Beverly Hills visited by hosts, known for sandwich-like sushi presentation
The Abbey
West Hollywood gay bar where hosts spent evening with coworkers; associated with Chappell Roan's Pink Pony Club
High Tops
West Hollywood gay bar frequented by hosts and where they hoped to encounter Heated Rivalry cast members
Discovery Channel
Available on hotel TV where host was staying during episode recording
People
Lou Sassel
Referenced as someone the hosts were catching up with; mentioned in humorous fake name context
Hudson Williams
Plays character Shane in Heated Rivalry; hosts have developed crush on both character and actor
Ilya
Co-star in Heated Rivalry; hosts describe as best friends with Hudson Williams in real life
Chappell Roan
Wrote Pink Pony Club about The Abbey gay bar in West Hollywood
Matthew Great
Friend of hosts who they haven't seen recently and decided to check in on via DM
Tristan
Friend who has been texting about Loose Assel and other inside jokes; would be upset about Abbey visit
Will Ferrell
Allegedly spotted at gym watching podcast on someone's phone; hosts skeptical of story
Rob Pattinson
Referenced in context of hosts playing voicemail from friend who met him
Kurt and Blaine
Referenced as original couple that inspired host's fan fiction era, compared to Heated Rivalry
Quotes
"He did Rivalry, did for hockey, what Taylor Swift did for the NFL."
Connor•Mid-episode
"I haven't felt this way since Kurt and Blaine. I felt a lot."
Brooke•Mid-episode
"These boys, Ilya and Shane, they mean everything to me and more. I'm so serious."
Brooke•Mid-episode
"We do not see men interacting like this. Like they're best friends and they're not afraid to show it physically."
Brooke•Mid-episode
"This is our last episode before the holiday break. This is our legacy episode."
Connor•Early episode
Full Transcript
A great story like Monsters Inc. stays with you forever and Disney Plus is where you'll find your next great story. From the return of the award-winning hit series, Rivals. Welcome to the naughtiest show on television. To the unmissable crime drama, High Potential. Gotta dead body, gotta go. A lifetime of great stories awaits. This spring on Disney Plus, 18 Plus subscription required. T's and C's apply. This is gonna be a doozy. You're sick? Yeah. Actually, I'm always sick. Yeah. I've been sick for like a week and a half now. Let's like start the episode with us like falling apart. Oh. Or do you want to? I think that's fine. Like I feel like everyone's kind of in the same boat. I sound for really, I will sound really bad this episode and I'm very sorry. You just sound like you're about to cry. I'm sorry. I'm really sorry. But I feel like Emily Evan and Ryan teamed together to make me this soup. That's awesome. So I might be sipping on my mug soup. Mug soup. Mug soup. You heard the girl. I had mug soup this week too. I was just to go. Did you? I prefer mug soup. I got, don't tell you about my powdered miso soup from TikTok Shop. Hold up. I had miso soup in a, in a to go coffee cup like this. Oh, that's fine too. When I ordered it to go and I was like, this is how soup, this is the best method of consuming soup on the go. I love it in a mug. But. And a home mug as well. I was looking around. I was like, nobody knows I'm sipping on some miso. The only problem is like getting the accoutrements. No. Like I want the tofu. No. Yeah. But oh, the tofu, that's tough. It's hard. And then at the end it's just a huge glob of seedweed and it's like, I don't want to eat the whole glob. It will come through the hole if you suck. If you suck hard enough. Yeah. Well, I do it in just like a mug at home. Yeah. It's like more of like a, it's like I would have to like open my mouth like and pour and like knock it back. Yeah. Knock them back. Oh yeah. Yeah. So me and my powdered miso. Yeah. I haven't ordered any food from TikTok Shop yet. Ooh, maybe soon. Maybe soon. They'll do all my grocery shopping on TikTok Shop. Yeah. Oh my God. I mean, that is my home. I might get like six, seven bananas. Not on this pod. Speaking of speaking of the devil, I got these bananas from Target and there's something about Target produce that it's like, is this a prop? I had a banana and it made my tongue taste bad. You know, bananas always make my tongue taste bad. No, but sometimes you know how all the strings that come off bananas. It's like a banana strings, banana strings. And then and then like the the nub at the beginning and the end. Yeah. Sometimes it's like hard in an inedible way. Yeah. It's just like we have we've we've we've done so much as a people. We can't remove the banana nub and the strings, the strings, the strings. I feel like the strings are generally on a more unripe banana. I think all bananas or all two. I've had a very. I guess they're just harder. Delicious banana that I have to untie, you know, from its strength. Take its little. What do you think the evolutionary purpose of the banana strings are? Are they kind of like nose hairs like protecting the banana? But it's from the inside of the peel. Yeah, that's so true. I guess our last Google of twenty twenty five, why do bananas have hairs? Yeah, I want to say hairs. They're they're they're foul, right? You know, like it's like when you're eating lobster and then you get to the poop sack and it's like I can't you think the banana strings are the poop sack of the banana? Those strings of bananas are called. Oh, it's the flow of bundles, the flow of bundles, which acts as the plants. Plumbing, you were right. There is this shrimp strings. Well, it's completely the transporting water, nutrients and sugars from the leaves of the fruit as it grows, making them edible, nutritious. We would not have bananas without the flow of bundles. So so I guess we'll take this time to thank thank to say thank you, flow of bundles. For all that you've done. Merry Christmas and happy Hanukkah to flow and bundles only. Lord, help me. I'm really serious. If you're not from well, if you're not from bundles, keep scrolling. Hey, what are you doing? Yeah, no, today's going to suck in a huge way. No, it's not. It's already been so amazing. Yeah. Well, we've been in the studio for about two hours. Yeah. It took us about 48 minutes to get through the ads. Yeah. I had started choking. She choked in a literal sense. I was doing the hind-lack on her. Yeah. So we're whipping her in the shape. You can watch those ads. Yeah, watch those ads. I'm assuming the one where I was performing the hind-lack wrong on Brooks from behind will probably not make the cut. You don't think? I don't know. Well, you were still reading the ads, so it might have to make the cut. You can't like, the show must go on. Yeah. You have to go ahead. I was about to start singing, so I stopped myself. OK. Yeah, wait. So it is going to be, so this is, I know like everyone's like, no way. That's crazy because you guys seem like so up and at them today. This is our last episode. Before the holiday break, Christmas and New Year's and Hanukkah and all that jazz. So this is our legacy episode. This is what was. Hanukkah. Happy Hanukkah. Also flagging that I said that you liked the menorah from right to left last week, and I do know it's left to right. Thank you. Like reading. Wait. Actually, genuinely might not know. What did I say? Left to right? It's right to left. I don't know. It's right to left. Izzy, what is it though? Like if it wasn't right to left, what would it be, for example? It's what I said earlier. Reading. You like the menorah from left to right, but you place the candles from right to left as you add them each night. OK, that's why I'm confused. You light it from here and then you put it on the end. So like depending on what day it is, you would put the candles in like from right to left, and then if it's the fourth day, you start lighting in the fourth. Oh, I see. OK. Yeah. What day are we on? Sunday night was the first night. Yeah, I knew that. Then it was Monday night. So it's day three. And now tonight will be the third night. And by the time this comes out, it'll be day five. All the things she said, all the things she said running through my head. That song, I'm glad you asked, was from the last episode of Heated Rivalry, the final scene. This show, Connor. I think this is what people- I started it. Did you? How far did you get? I'm in the first episode still. What's happening? Well, I'd like to say and like this is going to be, I mean, it's porn. So it's crazy that I've- It's a lot of character. I've seen actual porn with more of a storyline that like that lead up then. It's not about the storyline. It's about the character's growth and emotions. I'm- they were growing immensely almost right when the show started. Is that not amazing? They were growing in a- they were- girth master. It is about their journeys. Yeah. This show, I imagine- You finished the whole show though, right? And the book, thank you. You finished the book and the show so quick? Well, the show's not- the show's only on episode four. There will be seven episodes. This is what I guess you guys felt when you were watching the summer, I turned pretty. But I've- imagine I feel that. Double it, add nitrous. Explode the code. I want to say it really quickly. I don't know if anybody- anybody recalls an older episode where I was trying to find something that we could- and a shared interest that we could have together that like a niche interest that maybe like happens a lot, you know, like a sport and we- we don't care about baseball, you know, like football, whatever. I was like, what if we got into hockey? And you were like, I am not interested in hockey. You weren't interested in hockey because it wasn't gay yet. It wasn't gay yet. I want to go to a hockey game, hand on my chest to God. He did rivalry, did for hockey, what Taylor Swift did for the NFL. I- I- I- I haven't felt this way since Kurt and Blaine. What was that? And I felt a lot. Kurt and Blaine were the original Glee couple that like sent me into my fan fiction era. Like you said Kurt Cobain. No, Kurt and Blaine. And I just like can't believe it took me so long. Like if that was my blueprint, like why did it take me this long? I'm just like annoyed at myself, but like this- I mean these boys, Ilya and Shane, they mean everything to me and more. I'm so serious. They- they are my family and I'm like developing like a pretty tier one crush on Hudson Williams who plays Shane. Like the actual person? The actual person. Not the character? Both. Both. Both from? Yeah. That's all- that is always the most dangerous type of crush when you're in love with the character and the actor. I love him. So much. He looks like somebody. He looks like somebody? Yeah. I actually feel like he doesn't. Like I feel like he's totally a new look. New look, new look. And he literally like if you read the book like it's like the author like wrote him into existence. Like Shane, it's described exactly the way he looks. It's insane. Hi my boys. Good for them. This is so- Hi my lovies. I love them so much. They are really like- And I love the way they are in interviews. Like we do not see men interacting like this. Like they're both like- Men interacting like this. Like they're best friends. They are best friends and they're not afraid to show it physically. It's the most amazing thing. I love them so much. There's so many shows that are getting renewed like before. Like I think I love LA got renewed. Really? On episode before even episode four was out. They have to renew this right? They- It's renewed. Oh it's renewed? Oh god yes Connor. I didn't see that. There is a scene coming up and this is like not like a plot spoiler. It is something that happens in the book. So I guess it's a spoiler but it's not like giving away anything. But plug your ears if you don't want to hear this for the next 30 seconds. There's a scene in the book where Shane gets hurt. And he crumples down to the ice. Probably goes unconscious for a second. Okay. Paramedics come out. Illya pushing through the paramedics to get to Shane. Thank you. I can't wait to see that. I'm gonna freak out. I'm gonna freak out. That's like my like one bed at the motel is going down on the ice pushing through the paramedics to get to your man. You're giving me one bed at the motel. Like that's my favorite thing in like a book when it's like the two characters checking to a hotel and it's like sorry there's only one bed. Guess you'll have to figure it out. I see. And this is my new favorite thing is like one man down on the ice the other man fighting through the paramedics. I'm looking forward to seeing that play out on my TV. Hopefully in episode six maybe. So there's only four episodes out right now and you feel this way about this. Very deeply. But I finished the book now so I know what's gonna happen. Okay. I'm really happy for you. Thank you. Like I'm. I haven't been obsessed with something in so long. It feels so right. I do. Do you feel like this is another perfect example of like how come I didn't. This is like a show that just like everyone's on on episode four of and I didn't know what was happening. I guess this one I could have caught up pretty easily because there's only four episodes out. Yeah. You should watch. I will. I'm in a hotel that only has it has Discovery Channel. So I'm learning a lot about World War Two. Yeah. And it has that Bravo show about all the people on the boat. Below Deck. Below Deck. Below Deck. Below Deck. Yeah. And then basically friends and that's it. Which is fine. It is like Hotel TV is meant to be Hotel TV. I wouldn't want them to change it. I do a little bit because they they need to have Netflix and stuff on Hotel TVs. I shouldn't be because they do. I don't know how to work the TV. Well that's your problem. Oh Jesus Christ. I'm sorry that came out harsher than I intended. Okay. You got one scoop of your mug soup to calm down. I just said I'm just saying they do have Netflix. So I can tell you more about heated rivalry than that's all I can do. Oh no that's not good though. It's not good. It's all the only thing in my brain is Shane Shane Shane Shane Shane Shane Shane. Oh yeah Shane Shane oh yeah Shane Shane. I ordered a pillow. What kind of pillow. It's just Shane. Is it life size. I got the 20 by 20. 12 24. So it's less than two feet. Yeah it's a little pillow that I will hold. I got it from Tiktok shop. I got Tristan one and I got Megan one. You you're like shopping on Tiktok shop now is what I'm like. No I'm shopping on Tiktok. You keep sliding in the fact that you're buying all of your goods. That's probably not good. Your goods and wares from Tiktok shop. Yeah it's probably I'm not seeing my pillow up represented up there. Can you like can you like actively go on to Tiktok shop and be like I need this and like search stuff. Yeah. Oh my god. Yeah it's the it's the end of the world as we know it. E that's my pillow. I don't think I got shirtless Shane. I wanted that one but it came out after I had already purchased it. It's mine. Is that AI. Yeah it's gotta be. But I didn't get that one. Oh I like the size of that one. I got that he's in the jersey. Yeah. I got that pillow. I also I asked for the matching blanket for Hanukkah. From who. From my friends from home we do a secret snow person. So yeah snow individual. So I asked for the heated rivalry blanket. You asked for a gift for secret snow individual. Yeah. I don't that's how it works. It is you can put like this is what I want like on the website where you draw your names. Oh that's like kind of that's you gotta. I would want like the thing is nothing's going to make me happier than the heated rivalry fully blanket. I think an aura frame would make me happier. You can preload them. No like I like that secret snow individual. I think you can do snow. I know I guess I get what you're saying with snow individual. But I well you know my my very progressive school it started as secret snowman and then it just like gradually devolved over the years because we did a school wide one. Oh it started as Secret Santa. Santa then devolved to secrets no man then devolved to secrets no person. And then kind of everyone was just making fun of it and calling it like secret snow individual secrets no entity like. That sounds scary. And then so that's what we call it anyway it doesn't matter who gives a fuck. But I don't really understand why Santa was ever an issue in your progressive school. Because not everyone celebrates Christmas. He's not Jesus it's not Santa is not religious. I know but like they're like obsessed with including everyone. So like if you don't observe a holiday that includes Santa. That would just make you anti-capitalist I think. I get not doing Secret Santa. I think we're Secret Snowman. I'm like that's fine baby. Secret snowman is good but it's. It's secret snow person. Yeah snow person. Yeah so it was three years of changes as the years went on. Imagine that meeting. That would be hard. That would be an emin in a meeting that could have been an email. Hey we're not. No but the thing is not where I went to school they were probably there till midnight. Talking about it. What are we going to do about Secret Snow. Talking about Secret Snow individual. Yeah. Like you guys at that point you just made up a new like Garrett. Secret Garrett. Like just name it name it something. Why did you get Garrett. I don't know I was looking at that stuff. It is time for the annual Garrett. Okay I am. You were looking at stuff. What were you looking at that made you say Garrett. That like stuffed monkey over there in the corner. That's Garrett to you. To me that's Garrett. Okay who did you get as your secret Garrett. Who did I get. I don't know it was like random people because our school was so small it was just like anyone in the school so I don't think I knew them each year. I think I just got them like like a probably like a candle or some shit. Yeah okay. But now as an adult you say I'm get I want this just someone needs to buy me this. But. There's no magic in that. You know Lindsey. Yeah. Lindsey was in love with one of our teachers and so made it her mission to find whoever drew our teacher. Through the school wide secret Santa managed to trade with them. Secret Garrett managed to trade with them and sent the teacher on like a week long scavenger hunt. Like it was pretty romantic. That ended with her finding the gift that was extremely personalized and handmade. Can't stress enough Lindsay never had a class with this teacher. Just from just from sight alone. Sight and aura. Sure. Hilda it's your big McDonald's hunger calling and it's not just any kind of hunger. It's the kind that calls for big hodge. Start with juicy beef cheddar cheese and big hodge sauce. Oh and don't forget those crispy onions. Hungry. You are now. Saved from 11 a.m. Subject to availability price and participation may vary. Um there's something that you guys all had in the water at whatever school you went to that made you all very very unique. Totally. Like your actual your actual experience is day to day. Yeah. Like you've created your reality sure but they shaped it. They shaped it. I really am very lucky that yeah that I grew up there because I'm scared to think what I would be like if I didn't because they really embraced you know they let me carry on my trash can for a few years. There was one girl like you at my school. Really whatever happened to her. I don't know what happened to her but there was like a group of boys that would pull their eyelashes out and put all their eyelashes on her desk like every day. Well and when you said she was like me like what was her thing. Who's different. Yeah in what way. Like she was not she stepped out in the hallway if we were watching anything that was like. She was sensitive. No she was like I'm she was like the only progressive person like at my and it was like elementary and I was like middle school or something but I remember she had to step out like all the time because it didn't align with her something. Her belief system. And yeah. I wasn't stepping out. Well it was like real yeah I guess. I don't know what we were watching that she had to actually step out. I would say I wasn't stepping out I was having additional help come in. Well she but I just started thinking about her because of the eyelashes thing and I remember she got upset about all the eyelashes. Yeah I wouldn't like it if boys were picking out their eyelashes and throwing them in me either. I don't have enough to pick out so I didn't really spit. Would you have if you had me. I don't know. I was looking for community back then. You would have. So I know you would have. Well I was in the gifted and talented program. I believe that. Which we figured out later on gifted and talented growing up means like your neurodivergent I think. I don't think in Texas. It wasn't smarter. No no it was like I had to take my tests in a different room because I was like I couldn't focus. Yeah you'd ADHD. Yeah but they had us on like a very special little room. It was like 15 of us. It's cool. It was cool being a teacher when I was teaching in second grade and seeing the behind the scenes of all the like groupings you know. And like the logic behind it like of making the reading groups. Were they putting like some heavy hitters in with like some bozos. No. Whoa they were putting all. They really were like it was grouping by skill level. Like moron group like smarty pants. I wouldn't have called it that. Right. But yeah. Oh my god. Just so because it's like how else are you gonna like. Teach. You know you can't teach to like 10 different kids at varying skill levels at the same time. I would delegate. It's dog groups. I would delegate some of the teaching to the smart kids. So that I didn't have to do that much. But I guess it makes sense that they're not there to teach. Yeah they're not. I certainly was not there to teach. I talked about that one time in class that haunts me to this day where I just had like I was like I was supposed to have my bears in the cave and I clapped. I know we were supposed to be very quiet. I did that once too. It's really scary. I screamed. It's a really. I thought someone said scream as loud as you can. I just remember being like imagine if it's so quiet like imagine if you clapped. I clapped. They grabbed my shoulder and I went right to in school suspension. Really? Yep. I remember we were doing freeze dance and I swear the teacher said when you freeze scream as loud as you can. So I froze and screamed at the top of my lungs and no one else screamed. So I had heard that like a phantom whisper. Wow. And then everyone was like what happened? Get her out of here. No I didn't get in trouble of course. But I screamed as loud as I could. What are you what else are you supposed to do in that situation? One time. No. I want to hear it please. No because we're too gross. What could it be that we haven't already touched on? It is it is poop forward and I just. Poop forward? Yeah. It's giving notes of poop. And I just don't want to. I think you I think you can touch on it very quickly and I can fill in the blanks. There's no story. I was just thinking about the time that I. No. No. I'm putting my foot down. No. Oh geez. Okay. There's no reason for it. Okay. You brought it up. I know. And I'm putting my foot down. All the things she said all the things she said running through my head. I need to regroup. I don't have any. What will we do? I don't know. I have I have a bunch of stuff that I want to do but I have to kind of keep it for the bonus. I mean. Keeping poop poop forward. Do you see the word of the year? Merriam-Webster is slop. No. Yeah. I think it has something to do with like AI slop but I like to think of it as like that's how I describe. What's AI slop? AI is a. The digital content of low quality that is produced usually in quantity by means of artificial intelligence. Wow. Yeah. And it's AI slop is like. When a little cat is like. Or no a baby is thrown out of a plane and you're watching it and then a cat in a boat. Yeah. A cat a buff cat in a boat picks up the baby. I wish I wish more than anything I didn't enjoy it. Brooke I'm watching that start to finish every time. I wish more than anything. I wish more than anything. I wish more than anything. This is the shit I'm staying up to one in the morning watching by the way. I wish more than anything. When people are like why don't you get why is your sleep schedule so screwed up? I'm like because of this because I'm that was that was so me. Oh my god that was tough one. Sorry was that adult size cat putting up beans. That was a cat laying down in a pajama set having diarrhea on the bed. Image description. No it was beans. It was big pinto beans. No it wasn't. Can we pull that back up. That was explosive. That's beans. Coming out of its butt. My god and there's that buff cat. Oh my god. No we can't. We can't. We can't condone this. No look why am I watching an AI feline domestic violence case right before my eyes. Because for our brains I have rotted to the point of no return. I actually think I'm at the point of no return. Stop watching the gorilla on the rain camera. No. Look at me stop watching the gorilla on the rain camera with the squirrels. Look at me. I can't. Look at my eyes. I already saw it. I want you to play again. Here's the downfall of humanity. I promise you this will be the point of no return I promise. When you're at a bar or a restaurant or something and they usually have the chive tv playing and it's like 10 crazy slam dunk correlation. It's called chive tv. I can't take my eyes off of that. It's like America's funniest on videos. It's like dogs saving the day. It's like themes like that. Yeah. Like kids hitting the t-ball into their parents penis. Once AI slot gets on there in the tv. Eyes crossed drool coming out. It's so bad. It is so bad. I can't stress that enough. Yeah I do. I feel like a baby watching those fruits. Everyone was watching those fruits. Bats around. Yeah. I have a game I want to play in the in the bonus. Oh let's play it in the main. I don't think so. This is kind of like so last day of school vibes right now. Yeah. This is the last day before holiday. The vibe that we're giving off right now. This feels like finals in college. The vibe we're giving off right now is like teacher has rolled in a tv into the classroom and it's like animal farm. You know. I was thinking Snoopy. Charlie Brown. Pushing through my. Who's calling you. Pushing through my do not disturb. Who's calling you. There's truly. That is for emergencies. That is for like someone's in the hospital. If someone pushes through my do not disturb I punish them by not talking to them the rest of the day. Yeah it's not a it's a faux pas. Shoot me a text. I am not a caller. No if you if you call me just know I'm saying how dare you. You used to call all the time. I did. All the time. When. You never call anymore. Back when we first got together. Yeah. You used to call all the time. And I was always like here he is again. But we would talk all the time on the phone. We would talk it was. You know I like I never call. Yeah. You never called. I never called. But for you I will answer. That is so sweet. Lucky for you that phase of my life is completely over. I don't call. If I'm on a long walk and I just want to like catch up with someone I'll call. We. That's nice. We sound like MD. MD foodie boys right now. I don't call. I don't call. I sometimes like to call. I like texting too. I like FaceTiming sometimes. I have. I have the notification on my phone. It's like 26 always on my call thing which always freaks me out. But it's all voicemails. And it's voicemails. From like my grandma and stuff where I'm like I want to keep that and get and like my friend. I'm like what if what if they die and this is the last voicemail. What's your last voicemail. It's from. Okay. This is really bad. So I signed up I guess a long time ago to be an organ donor. And I am a match. For someone. So. I need to address that. That is not how. Oh like a living organ donor. Yeah. Hopefully someone's not here to harvest my organs. No it's this. It's this. Hey this is. Oh for a plat for plasma. Wait. This is for. Wait. Or okay. Okay. Yeah it's for like blood or something. Okay. I'm a match. I can't give blood. Why? I'm too short. That is not an excuse. I know it is. Like you need to weigh a certain you need to have a certain height to weight ratio. She's got plenty of blood. No I don't. You need to have a certain height to weight ratio. It's like if you're like six four you don't have to weigh that much. But if you're like four eleven you do. You have to have there's a weight requirement basically what I'm saying. What? Yeah. Is he. Because if you look. We've been looking that up how much you have to weigh to give blood. Specific height to weight requirements very slightly. You have to weigh 110 pounds. Wait. Oh male donors must be at least five feet. Female have to be five three and 150 pounds. That's specialized donations. What's regular blood? General requirements minimum weight usually I do definitely weigh a hundred and five. Women would need to be 115 pounds. Well five six and a dollar might. Where are you seeing that? This these numbers aren't really adding. I just remember I wasn't when I when my school had a blood drive I was not eligible. That's all I can tell you. So interesting. Mine's for plasma though and I heard it really hurts. I started to get sick just then when you're talking about plasma. Why? Because it hurts and I don't I don't want to talk about plasma. To donate blood your weight must be at least 110 pounds. Okay I guess I was like in a crazy skinny era. Oh additional height and weight requirements apply to women shorter than five five. Yeah there were additional requirements. Because I don't think I've dipped below 110 since I was like six. If you know what I mean. Yeah what's your last voice model? Etsy. Etsy. Oh it says it's from Mamam but it's not. Ooh spooky. It's like a fake it's a fake person. Turn it up. Oh I guess it is Mamam just like listening to TV. Okay. That's just the TV in there. Yeah sorry I thought it was a deep fake. That's good good for you for being wary of that. Here's a voicemail from Susu. Oh my god I am totally freaking out. I don't know if that's real or not. Oh I played this when I met Rob Pattinson. Call me when you can but don't face Tommy because I look like shit. But call me I am freaking out. I played that. You look so gorgeous. Oh she's so sweet. I can't believe that. She really is the greatest. Let me see if I have any more from her. Did you see that they were trying to make a like a gender swapped version of holes and they had to scrap it because like people were like it's people are going to call it like girl holes. We can't come out with that. I would not have thought of girl holes until you said girl holes. Well it would be like did you watch the boy holes or the girl holes. Like sometimes that just happens you know and it is what it is. Disney Plus is not proceeding with its pilot holes a reimagining of the 1998 novel in the 2003 with an with an with an adaption with a female lead. Girl holes that's funny. Yeah you okay. Yeah I am. What. I am fine. What were you laughing at. I was just. I'm fine. Thank you. What were you laughing at. You were thinking about something. I was just wondering if this is the if this was the project that was going to be directed by Loose Assel. And produced by Holden 2Dix. Yes Holden 2Dix. Oh my god I completely forgot about him. Love his work. That was good Brooke. Thanks I bet you didn't see anything coming. No I really didn't. Thanks for sharing. I mean thanks are bleak. Thanks for sharing that. Fuck. That was awesome. Yeah we needed that. Oh it's so nice to let go. If you don't get it. Loose Assel. No I think everyone got it. Okay because I didn't at first I was screaming who's Loose Assel who's Loose Assel. So some people might not get it. Who's Loose Assel is this. Wait you want to hear about my other friends. Yeah. Obviously Tristan's been texting everyone non-stop about Loose Assel and shit like that. You got one Izzy how about what was yours. You got one how about you read yours. Okay it's funny that Tristan won't make up stories about stuff too. Connor do you remember that girl from the house party I said which one he said I think her name is Anna Borschen or something. She's dating Holden Doudix and he goes Holden was there too and I still didn't catch it because I was like reading it. Yeah. And then Kat goes I think she's friends with Dix Enormous or was that a different girl and Tristan's like their roommates and Mike Oxlong wants to join as well. You didn't they didn't talk about Dix and Cider. And Hugh Jass. Hugh Jass is a classic one. It's like not funny and like at all but it's just like you know when someone does a bit pass the point and then it becomes funny. Yes. That was good. You holding that in. I'll always laugh at a joke when someone's already laughing at it. I've been trying to say it for a really long time too. You were holding that in. Yeah. And then I was like oh this is good because like Loose Assel could have directed girl holes. No that's not. And then I couldn't and then I started laughing. No that was so funny. That was a perfect time to slip in Loose Assel. Thanks. And then it's like where do you go from Loose Assel. Right. It's like I see how we got here but I don't see how we could get away from here. I went to an awesome dinner last night. What was it? I went to the Waldorf Astoria roof. The Waldorf Astoria did you. I was at the Waldorf Astoria last night. How was it? Having dinner. It was really good but I obviously got a stomach ache. Right away. What did you eat? I had. This is empty foodie boys. Yeah well no I had here's the thing like I I thought I invented this new thing last night where it's like I'm gonna have beef and I'm also gonna have fish. Weirdly it didn't sit right on my stomach. So I had. How many fish did you have? It was a brand Zeno. You like that shit? No fucking no it was disgusting. I didn't think you did. I got I as soon as it came I said this we should be sitting in the smoker section. This smells so gross. People really like I don't know if it's brand Zeno or bronze Zeno. It doesn't matter. People really like that fish. It's just weird to have a carcass on the table no matter what animal it is. Like that should that belongs at the bottom of the sea. Do you like beef tartare? Yeah so are you joking? No I wasn't. No I don't like it. Oh. I like tuna tartare. Yeah. Thanks. You're welcome. Yeah so I got for some we did like a it was like five people so we did like a everyone were all just split which you know I don't like that. Yeah. I don't like ordering family style because I'm keeping it and it's exhausting for me because I'm keeping an eye on how much everyone takes of everything. You know and then I get a little bit competitive. I'll be full but if I didn't get my my section of that yet hand it over. I love sharing food. I find myself like eating less in a good way like I don't eat till I'm like exploding. I'm I'm I'm eating in a way that is as if I don't know if I'm I don't know when my meal will be. I get that. Because I'm like oh we're splitting this like I want everything. I even eat stuff that I didn't want to eat curry with shrimp in it. I don't I wouldn't want I don't think I would want that. No there shouldn't be shrimp and curry no offense. I don't think there should be curry and shrimp. There isn't curry and shrimp the shrimp is in the curry. I'm just saying I like shrimp and not curry. You would like curry. No I wouldn't. Curry is amazing. I don't like curry. Curry is my favorite food. I know I don't like it and that's fine. It's fine. Um I went to Hellstone for the first time. Okay Rich. Really? Yeah. I love that like sushi that looks like a sandwich. Do you know what I'm talking about or like little finger sandwiches. It was as good as everyone's has it is. Did you know the one in Santa Monica? No. That's a good one. I went to one in Beverly Hills with Lou Sassel and I think Mike Oxlung met us there. Yeah I love that shit deeply. That's really great. I'm really happy for you. You've been kind of crushing it as of late. In what capacity? You're loving your tv shows. You're going to new restaurants. You could say that again. Me being in LA as a visitor I am like having the time of my life. I'm doing so much stuff I've never done. Like what? Last night we I was with my we had like our team dinner like end of year because I'm in town so we went and then my my manager was like let's go to the rooster fishing West Hollywood. You went to the rooster fishing West Hollywood and didn't tell me. It was closed. I wanted to tell you on the podcast so we went. Well I would have met you. We went to I didn't know you weren't going to come out on Monday night. I know but it would have been nice to hear from you. We went and I wasn't trying to have an evening at all but like my my my everybody was having so much fun I was like I can't leave so we went to the Abbey. You went to the Abbey last night. Yeah. You are kidding. No I'd never been and it was like karaoke night or something and we sat there and we and we had a time. Wow. Sat outside there's heater on it's all Christmas vibes. If Tristan found out you were at the Abbey last night and didn't reach out to him I think he would like genuinely off himself. If I was like looking to have like have a time I was with like my co-workers in the space or else I would have but. I just can't believe you were at the Abbey. I can't either. I didn't see myself going to the Abbey. The Abbey is the bar that Chapel Roan wrote Pink Pony Club about. Really? Yeah. I didn't know that but also. I think. There's just like a strip of gay bars in West Hollywood and on the strip is also high tops which is I feel like where I go the most and our friends go the most. Guess who showed up at high tops the other night. Who? The Hudson and Connor. Hudson and Connor. Oh both of them? Both of them. Wow damn. Made an appearance. So I went to high tops on Sunday just kind of hoping. I just wanted to be in the same space. You kind of just always need to have your shoes on. Exactly. Because if they start posting then you need to be heading out the door. I think I would be good with them like talking to them in a way that I wouldn't be good talking to other celebrities that I like because I could say something. Like what? Like about how much their work means to me. That they would appreciate that I think. You feel like those are those are two individuals that will be will be in the same room with at some point. I can't wait if that's the case. Yeah I do think that that is the case. Wow I mean though I like I can't like. But you know what's gonna happen and I know this is gonna happen. You're gonna meet them first? Yeah. I'm so mad at you. I don't. Already. It's it's something I think it's because it's not supposed to happen that's why it always happens. Yeah. I haven't seen Matthew Great in a second. I know I'm worried. I'm worried too I should check on him. You should check on him. He doesn't. Have you ever you should try DMing him. Just say I haven't seen you in a long time. I miss you and hope everything's okay. Checking on you. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I will. That's my friend. Yeah. That is your friend. MGJ. It's a nice thing to do. Matthew. What is what should I say? Hi buddy. Hey buddy. Yeah. I haven't seen you in a while. Goubler Graham. Okay. Okay. I'm gonna unsend a couple messages very quickly. What did you say? I asked him to come on the podcast on October 2nd. Of this year? Yeah. He didn't read it or it's okay. Hey buddy. Haven't seen you in a minute or so. Give or take. Give or take. Hope you're well. Lou Sassel and I were just catching up. He said Lou Sassel. And I were just catching up. Miss you. Hope to see you. And you came up. Over the holiday. Yeah. Oh, Lou Sassel and I were just catching up. And you came and you came up. And you came up. Yeah. Perfect. Sent. Sent. Yeah. Nice. Hey buddy. Haven't seen you in a minute or so. Give or take. Lou Sassel and I were just catching up. And you came up. Miss you. Hope to see you over the holiday. PS. PS I love it. Mike, Mike Litteris sends his regards. No, I can't. Not to MGG. I can't say Mike Litteris. Also sends, also sends his regards. Why? I don't know if he's into that type of stuff. That's true. He's probably not. Lou Sassel. Yeah. He might be into that. Genuinely, when you read Lou Sassel, that doesn't. Like, because Lou and Sassel both, like, they check out. I want him to read it to someone, Ella. What's so weird? You know, I've met his parents. I do know that. It's crazy. Another celebrity. I was talking to someone last night and they work out at this gym that will feral frequency and. You know, yeah. I used to see him when I went. Yeah. Said that she was watching our podcast on her phone and he was over watching over her shoulder and laughing. That's a lie. Will Ferrell. I hate to tell you. It's not like. She was watching without headphones? No. So he wasn't. There's no way he was looking at her phone with no volume and laughing. Okay. Maybe we could just. Unless he was making fun of the way we look. Yeah, that sucks. Let's let's let's switch because that bummed me out. Do you have any New Year's resolutions? Yeah, I genuinely want to walk for 30 minutes every day. I have to start writing my next book in January. Could you, is there a world where you could write while you walk? No. Because you have to. The only thing I do when I'm walking is think I hate this. You and you and cousin Logan hate walking. She'll walk a little bit. She goes, my ears are hurting from walking. Mine thighs start to itch so badly whenever I walk. I am a walking but you can't you can't sit me down in a chair. I used to be so good. I love walking. We used to walk a lot during COVID. Yeah, we did. We'd walk to all the pet stores and try to find a frog. Yeah. How crazy is it that very pet stores where I got Jonathan? It is. We're looking for frogs. Mine year's resolution is to start responding to text as they come in. Because my phone, which by the way, I got the new phone over the weekend, I fucking hate it. I don't get how to use any part of this phone. I really, I hate the new texting interface where it's like if you want to screenshot a text, like the text above it will always be a little bit visible. Do you know what I'm talking about? No, but I don't like when you screenshot now you have to be like, you have to save it to your phones. This also sucks when I complain about stuff like this. That's like, okay, that's really not an issue. People are starving. And it makes me think of, I think Jake Cornell, the comedian, he said he was talking about people in favor of AI, like using chat GBTs. He's like, people that are saying that now you can ask chat GBTs. You don't have to scroll to a second page of Google. He's like, and was that hard for you to do? Scrolling to the second page of Google? It was so hard that we had to create a solution for that. And it's true, life is becoming so easy that that screenshotting is hard for me. I need a reality check. Yeah, I completely agree, Connor. It's not good. No. And I'm a victim to it. Here's something that I hate a lot. Okay. Hey, we've updated the phone. We put the camera button here because everyone's taking their photos this way. And then what you're going to love next is when you take the picture, the photos go into a secret place where you can't find them. And by the way, you want to send your friend a couple? Guess what? I got like, they're going to get them and they're going to see that they're there, but they'll never, they'll never be able to save them with the phone. No, but that's nothing new. I can't find my photos. No, I'll save a photo from someone. I know that it's somewhere, but there's no, it's like a needle in the haystack. I would love to find a needle in the haystack. That's something that I forgot. That doesn't seem very hard to me. I feel like it'd be really good. I know. I do think I would be able to do that. Can we do that as a YouTube video? Broken Connor, find a needle in the haystack. What kind of needle? A needle, a standard needle. Like a classic needle and thread? Can I, can I say something? That's my perfect day. Finding a needle in the haystack. Yeah. Yeah, I can see you becoming hyper focused on a task that has no significance or meaning. Dream my dream to AQ. Yeah, I love on tangling things. Yeah, you're good at that. I am good at that. And I think it's funny. I remember in like high school and stuff, people would always be like, is anyone good at this? Because they'd like manipulate people into being like, I am. I was like, I know that they're manipulating me, but like, I'll bite. I am good. Yeah. Girls would always like put like six necklaces into their makeup bag and be like, can you untangle these six? Oh my God. Perfect. That's a great project for me. That is really sweet thinking about if they had a crush on you, like at home tangling their jewelry to bring them, to bring it in for you to untangle. Oh yeah, wow. I would have done that. Maybe put that in your back pocket for the novels, for the novellas. One time when I was in first grade, I asked the boy I liked for a goldfish. Make a snack? Yeah, because I- The one that smiles back? Yeah, because I wanted to like keep it in like in a treasure chest. I wanted to make a box of treasures and I said, can I have a goldfish? And he said, no, because I know that you like me. Can you- like I was like, how did he know I wanted to keep it? You know, like how did he know I had a sinister plan? You know what he said in so many words? What? I'm not, I'm not looking for anything serious right now. I'm not looking for anything serious. And me giving this goldfish would- He didn't want to give me the wrong idea. I think he was like trying to be like clear. I think he was trying to be clear about his intentions. Yeah, he's keeping things casual right now. I just remember being really like, whoa, by that. I kind of- he set a boundary very early and I think that was cool. Six years old, no, because I know that you like me. And he didn't want to share a goldfish with me. He was the hottest guy in school. He was six? So was I. Okay. I don't know like postpartum, calling a six-year-old hot is kosher. Yeah. I, when I was six and my six-year-old peers and I viewed him as the hottest guy in school and when I was 18, he was still the hottest guy in school. Still wanting to share a goldfish with me. Did you ask? No, obviously scarred. Was it crispy? Was it crispy? Right, right. Right. I can't believe you have so many memories of when you were six. I didn't have my- Well, that's like about like that, like sticks with you. No, you remember almost everything. I don't, I don't have a memory of a year ago. And I figured out why. It's because my ADHD is so severe that I'm so thinking about the next thing that's going to happen while the thing is happening that I don't compartmentalize or save memories to my brain. I realize I've like never been in the moment. Recently, I've been thinking that. Well, the thing that helps with that is five things you can see, four things you can hear, three things you can feel, two things you can smell and be crazy smelling two things at once. And then one thing you can taste, which is always just like in my tongue. I've, you know, I've been on a few dates recently. And I realized like when I'm was talking to these, these young men, there was not one second where I was like listening to what they were saying. It was all just like thinking about the situation. Sure. Five steps down the line. Sure. I couldn't tell you what I, what the, what their jobs are. That's not important. But it's just like I would like to be in a conversation. Sure. But I found myself not in them recently. I remember one time we talked about, are I posting like how do I, how do I, I Googled like how to care when someone's talking. Because I was sometimes in situations where I'm just like, oh my gosh, I really don't care. And someone sent me the meanest message. What did they say? Like something about, I mean, I don't know, I didn't really read it, but it was mean. I don't think that, well, maybe if you just like genuinely don't care, it's not great. But I care. I just, I can't, I'm thinking about something. I have to think about the house right now. Well on a date, yeah, you, yeah. But I'm talking about like I'm, I'm, I'm cornered by this person, this individual at like a party or something. Yeah. Oh, get me out of here. Yeah. No, that's not your fault that you don't care about that. And it's like someone would walk up to me and be like, my parents met on a cruise in the 80s. And it's like, okay. Yeah. Exactly. What does that have to do? What does, maybe this is the issue. I'm a narcissist. What does that have to do with me? How does that affect me? That is narcissism. Yeah. Unless I can, unless I need something from this individual, then it has a lot to do with me. No way, a cruise. Still narcissism. Yeah. At least I'm a self-aware. Although I don't think many narcissists would be like, I'm a narcissist and I know it. I think, Izzy, can we look up our narcissists self-aware of their narcissism? I think historically, I don't think they are. I don't think self-awareness absolves you. I think you could have narcissistic traits without being like a. Ooh. Wow. They generally have a significant lack of awareness. So maybe you have narcissistic tendencies. Yeah, sure. Personal gain is. You might be too anxious to be a narcissist. Yeah. Because I worry about how people perceive me. Yeah. Which I feel like a narcissist maybe wouldn't be. You want to take the MI narcissist test? Yeah. Is it really long? It's just a five minute quiz. Five minute quiz, okay. I need to be constantly praised. Strongly agree. Thank you. Next. I worry about my marriage all the time. Yep. That's a strong one. I can be extremely competitive. Yeah, I can't play Monopoly anymore. Yes. I am more generous and kind when I have an audience. Go ahead and put me down for strongly agree. I rarely hold a grudge. Strongly disagree. Opposite. Yep. Strongly disagree with that. I often experience deep feeling of shame. I don't know if it's deep feeling of shame. I'm going to just say. Often, no, I don't think I neutral. I can be described as a shy person. No. I struggle to read people or determine how they feel. No. Okay. I'm reading everybody and I'm making up my version of them. I don't think you're reading them correctly all the time. To determine how they feel. I think I'm, oh, I struggle to read people. I'm going to say disagree, but not strongly disagree. Okay. Okay. Does it even make sense for the individual that's trying to see if they're narcissists to take a test like this, you know, because it's like, I rarely feel guilt or remorse. I disagree. I do my best to avoid conflict. I agree. I think most people are doing the best they can with what they have. Disagree. I often disagree with someone else's feedback. I'm strongly agree. Strongly agree. I am extremely adverse to mediocrity. That one's interesting. That is interesting. I am. I think you are. I am extremely adverse to mediocrity. Both for yourself and with others. Yeah. Okay. I agree. I have an overly defensive attitude. I strongly agree. I strongly agree with that. I very strongly agree. My close friends rarely disappoint me. Yeah. No one really disappoints me. Yeah, I agree. This is going to be longer than five minutes. So you see the little loading bar? Yeah. Is that the loading bar? Yeah, it is. We can finish it in the bonus. Okay. Well, it is in the bonus because I want to finish with my, I want to finish right now with my, my news resolutions. Yeah. What are they? One, I want to read my tax. Yeah. Which like seems so easy, but it's a real heavy lift for me. But then I got the new phone and it started over. So now I only have, now I only have 105 on red since I got the phone on Sunday. That's ridiculous. One is that, two, I was, I was trying to train to run the marathon next year in New York, but then this is a douche baggy in this next sentence. Then someone was like, if you run a lot, you don't retain as much of the like muscle game on your body from lifting. So I'm cutting back on running. So you need to figure out a new fitness goal. Okay. And then the rest I can't say. The rest is history? Herstory. I'm just really want to go outside of my comfort zone. I think you're doing that. I think I really have. How nice to have started on years resolutions before. I got a head start, but I'm going to do it even more, which is crazy. That is crazy and awesome. And very awesome. Yeah. My bangs changed my life. I'm not even, I'm not just saying that. Maybe I gotta get bangs. Maybe. I come in for the next episode in the new year and I'm full blown. I have a bull cut. You would look good. You would look good with the will buyers cut because you guys have the same shaped face kind of. Can you pull up all buyers? Do you know who that is? Now, which not? Does that make sense? I wouldn't look good with that. And we do not have the same shaped face. Look, I'm thinking of him like the one below. Is he? Yeah. How can I add? You think I look like a 12 year old? You do look young. Wow. But in an amazing way. It's the, it's a hyaluronic acid that I'm left. I'm soaking in it every night. Are you? Yeah. Okay. Well, let's, let's wrap this one up. Okay. Put us out of our misery. Put you out of your misery. The listeners. Yeah. Well, happy holidays. Happy Annika. Happy Christmas. Merry Christmas. Happy new year. We love you. We bid you. Thanks for an amazing year. Thanks for an amazing year. 2026 is going to be balls to the wall. Like good. It is. Oh my gosh. We've so much fun stuff. Yeah. We really do. And then we filmed a new YouTube video last week. And that will be out. Eventually. Soon. Soon. Oh, Izzy, that was the day I really actually, that my hair looked good. That was your bowl cut. I told you, like. You know what's crazy is that was like, that was like clip farming. We had so many clips from that episode. And I was like, gosh, dang it. That sucks. What the hell? No one said anything. I did. Because you've always said you would want to know. I said, Connie, baby, I don't think you want to do the bangs. I said, I don't think you want to do the bangs. I don't think you want to do the bangs. Where are your friends at a time like this? I was right there. Oh my gosh. You weren't listening. You got defensive. It looks like I'm wearing a wig. You got defensive. Oh my gosh. It looks like it looks like I skimmed a raccoon on the way in. You got defensive. Oh my God. It looked like David Bowie. And he, and with David Bowie, we leave you. I stand with David Bowie. Hang on. Don't hold me on that. I can't remember the history of David Bowie. Connor, baby, it's Bowie. No, no, no. Type in David Bowie. Raccoon. Oh, you are about to get learned today. Is that who you were talking about though? David Bowie at the Alamo. Hell yeah. Okay. So this is just AI-generated images of raccoons dressed up as David Bowie? No. This is not who I'm thinking of. Perhaps I flubbed a bit. But hang on. I'm on to something. There's Alamo. Okay. People look up Alamo raccoon. No, it's something Bowie. Something Bowie, Alamo, raccoon, hat guy. It's Davy Crockett. Sorry. Oh my God. All right, we are going to head on out for the year. God knows we could use a little bit of a breather. And some grace while you're at it. I think we could leave. I think we all owe everybody enough grace. Okay. I'm leading with love. Lou Sassel just got here, so I genuinely do have to go. And Holden Doudix is staring at me like I owe him money. Yeah. So I'm going to head out over there too. Love you. We love you guys. Sorry about that. We'll see you in the new year. Hope everyone's well. I do genuinely do too. Okay. Bye.