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Sony’s 30-Day DRM Clock Reappears - DTNS 5258

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Apr 29, 2026about 1 month ago
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Summary

The episode covers Sony's controversial 30-day DRM system on PS4/PS5 games that requires internet validation, Elon Musk's testimony in his lawsuit against OpenAI over the company's shift to for-profit status, and incoming Apple CEO John Ternus facing major supply chain challenges including a projected 400% RAM cost increase in 2027.

Insights
  • DRM implementations often burden legitimate customers more than pirates, and unclear policies combined with unreliable chatbot support create consumer confusion and backlash
  • Musk's OpenAI lawsuit appears motivated by principle rather than financial gain, suggesting personal disputes between founders can drive high-stakes litigation regardless of monetary outcomes
  • New CEO transitions at major tech companies inherit pre-existing supply chain and cost pressures that were set in motion years prior, making early performance judgments potentially unfair
  • AI agents require the same infrastructure-as-code safeguards and permission restrictions that humans do, not fewer, to prevent catastrophic production incidents
  • Government supply chain risk designations can become politically negotiable when agencies actually need the restricted technology, undermining the original security rationale
Trends
DRM validation mechanisms are reappearing in console gaming despite consumer backlash, suggesting publishers are willing to risk reputation for anti-piracy measuresRAM cost inflation is forcing hardware manufacturers to choose between margin compression, price increases, or supply chain restructuringAI-powered development tools and agents are being deployed without adequate process controls, accelerating the need for infrastructure-as-code best practicesExecutive actions are being used to circumvent regulatory supply chain restrictions when agencies determine the restricted technology is operationally necessaryMulti-view streaming features are expanding beyond sports to news and entertainment, indicating broader demand for simultaneous content consumptionNostalgia-driven app revivals (Vine) are leveraging archived content libraries to rebuild communities around legacy platformsGeopolitical manufacturing pressures are forcing tech companies to balance US, Chinese, and Indian factory interests simultaneouslyAI chatbot support systems are generating plausible but false information, creating legal liability and customer trust issues for companies
Companies
Sony
PS4/PS5 games implementing controversial 30-day DRM validation requiring internet connection every 30 days
OpenAI
Subject of Elon Musk's lawsuit alleging breach of charitable trust over nonprofit-to-for-profit conversion
Apple
Incoming CEO John Ternus faces 400% RAM cost increase and supply chain manufacturing challenges in 2027
Microsoft
New deal with OpenAI makes AI models available on AWS for enterprise customers
Amazon Web Services
Now offering OpenAI models to AWS customers following partnership announcement
Google
YouTube TV launched multi-view quad-box feature; Google Translate added pronunciation guidance for Android
Anthropic
Claude/Mythos model restricted by US government supply chain risk designation; White House drafting exemption
Meta
Facebook and Instagram face EU preliminary finding for inadequate age verification controls on platform
GitHub
Experienced recent reliability issues; researchers published remote code execution vulnerability affecting Enterprise...
DJI
Released Mic Mini 2 wireless microphone with extended range and color-changing magnetic plates
Asus
Opened pre-orders for ROG Zephyrus Duo dual-display 16-inch laptop announced at CES
Lovable
Major vibe coding app updated to comply with Apple's new App Store guidelines restricting code modification
Wiz
Security researchers published remote code execution vulnerability affecting GitHub Enterprise and GitHub.com
Vine
Jack Dorsey-backed revival of six-second looping video app launched with 500,000 archived videos
Eurogamer
Reported on Sony DRM issue and CMOS battery implications for PlayStation game functionality
People
Elon Musk
Testified under oath in lawsuit against OpenAI alleging breach of charitable trust and unjust enrichment
Sam Altman
Defendant in Musk's lawsuit over OpenAI's conversion from nonprofit to for-profit structure
Greg Brockman
Co-defendant in Musk's lawsuit regarding OpenAI's governance and profit structure changes
John Ternus
Takes over as Apple CEO on September 1st, facing RAM cost inflation and supply chain restructuring challenges
Tim Cook
Remaining in executive role to manage supply chain relationships with US and China during Ternus transition
Larry Page
Musk characterized as 'evil' during testimony for advancing AI at DeepMind, motivating OpenAI's creation
William Savitt
OpenAI's counsel presented evidence of Musk's prior emails supporting for-profit structure
Tom Merritt
Co-host providing analysis and context on major tech industry stories
Sarah Lee
Co-host providing analysis and commentary on DRM, supply chain, and litigation stories
Will Knight
Covered robotic arm Eka and potential ChatGPT moment for physical robotics devices
Jack Dorsey
Backing the revival of Vine video platform with archived content and new creator tools
Quotes
"It is not okay to steal a charity. That's my view."
Elon MuskDuring OpenAI lawsuit testimony
"On AI, it could make everyone prosperous, but it could also kill us all."
Elon MuskDuring OpenAI lawsuit testimony
"DRM generally affects the law-abiding, the rule-abiding people more than it affects the people trying to get around the rules."
Sarah LeeSony DRM discussion
"Don't be mad at the agent. Be mad at the lack of good process."
Andrew (listener)Shared perspective segment
"If anyone can figure it out, it's him. That doesn't mean he can figure it out."
Tom MerrittApple RAM cost discussion
Full Transcript
This is the Daily Tech News for Wednesday, April 29th, 2026. We tell you what you need to know, give you some context and try to help each other understand. Today, what Elon Musk said under oath in his lawsuit against OpenAI. And did Sony just bring back the C-bomb? that's that's a cmos issue with drm not not not anything else that you might wonder about i'm tom merit i am also sarah lee let's start with what you need to know with that big story hat tip to motang for posting this one on our subreddit youtuber modded warfare posted that on april 25th he noticed some newly bought ps4 games playstation 4 games had a start and end valid period listed in the information screen, implying there was a 30-day DRM in place that would require an internet connection every 30 days to validate the game and keep it functional. YouTuber Spawnwave was able to confirm that and even showed that if the counter went to zero, the game stopped working. On the PS5, that period does show up, but it's not visible in the information screen. So you only find out when you get an error message to pop up if that counter reaches zero. Eurogamer notes that if your CMOS battery dies, the battery that powers, among other things, the internal clock in your PlayStation, then the games would not be playable because it couldn't check the time. That's the C-bomb we were talking about. So a user called Ann Shrew on Reset Era did a little digging and claims that the games actually just have one 30-day offline license from purchase and that the first time you connect after the 15th day, it resets to an infinite license. So this isn't a every 30 days, it's just connect once during the first 30 days, but not before the 15th day. A source told Does It Play that this was a bug unintentionally activated when fixing an exploit, and the 15th day is coincidentally right after the refund window, which led Eurogamer to speculate that maybe the exploit being fixed was people exploiting the infinite license and returning the game for a refund. So you couldn't get the infinite license until after you'd passed the refund period. One more wrinkle here. People are putting screenshots up of chats with Sony customer support where the support person appears to say this is an intentional 30-day online check. But Sony hasn't come out and said anything officially on this, and those screenshots could easily be generated. Or I think even more likely, it could be a chatbot that is hallucinating the 30-day thing and is actually incorrect. Either way, it does seem that something with the 30-day support thing has been going on and it's got people up in arms. Sarah, it's another example of DRM generally affects the law-abiding, the rule-abiding people more than it affects the people trying to get around the rules. Yeah, this is all a bit of a head-scratcher to me, just because I'm not buying PS4 games myself. But the idea of like, okay, we've got a 30-day thing and then, you know, 30-day offline license connects within 15 of the 30 days. Yeah, and not telling you that. And it's kind of like, okay, what happened here? Yeah, most of the time, people using a PlayStation will go online for various reasons, to get updates, to message their friends, to play online games. So for most people, this is not an issue. And I think what Sony thought was most people will go online between the 15th and the 30th day, and they won't have an issue. And if we put this in place, it'll stop the people who buy the game, download it with the infinite license, and then return it in the 15-day window because they won't have the license and then they won't be able to renew the license because they won't have the game anymore. That seems like a very elaborate way to go after refund scams, but that could be it. We don't know. Sony hasn't said. The idea of customer support bots as well. I think we're all very familiar with them at this point. And sometimes I'm like, that actually was pretty seamless. I don't know, contacted Amazon or, you know, whatever company about something. And, and we got everything, everything squashed. Uh, they also don't work well in a lot of other scenarios. So I wonder how many customers are just like, what, what is going on here? Like, are there people behind the scenes? Is there a man behind the curtain? Yeah. And if I want to chase some clout on social media, uh, I'm going to try to make the chat bot say something, or if it just says something, I'm going to screenshot that and post it to Reddit as soon as I can. Right. Yeah. And say like, look at this. You know, we're, yeah, we're, it's a meltdown. Not to mention sometimes human support people say stuff and it turns out later that they're like, yeah, they didn't know what they were talking about. They're just trying to get you off the line. Oh, Tom, come on. Humans are perfect. That's true. What am I saying? We never say anything wrong. We're never tired. I'm less worried about offending the humans these days than the machines. though. So there is that. There is that. There is that. Well, we never want to offend anybody who joins us for our show. DTNS is made possible by all of you listening and watching. Thank you very much to ThatCharlieDute, Justin Zellers, Chris Beneteau, and Bim Paras. Thank you, patrons! There's more we need to know today. Let's get to the briefs. Let's do it. So we mentioned yesterday that Elon Musk's lawsuit against OpenAI, Sam Altman, and Greg Brockman, co-founders of OpenAI, began yesterday. Musk is alleging unjust enrichment and breach of charitable trust. Basically, what he's saying is they turned OpenAI from a nonprofit that he helped build into a for-profit that he doesn't benefit from. A win by Musk could stop OpenAI from issuing stock and cause it to unwind some of the changes that it's made to both the nonprofit foundation and the for-profit subsidiary. But whatever happens, Musk's first day of testimony was quite the quote factory, Tom. Okay. All right. So let's go through some of these. It is not okay to steal a charity. That's my view. Wow. It's probably the one getting the most attention. Yeah, because who's stealing charity? On AI, it could make everyone prosperous, but it could also kill us all. On the one hand, but on the other hand. Yeah. Musk said of Google's Larry Page, he said he would be fine as long as artificial intelligence survives. Then he called me a speciesist for caring about humans more than AI Oh he trying to explain why they started OpenAI because Larry Page was evil Got it Okay Yep yep Meanwhile, OpenAI attorney William Savitt said in a statement to the jury that while still involved in OpenAI, Musk said in emails, quote, probably better to have a standard C-Corp with a parallel nonprofit. and it might have been a mistake for OpenAI to be set up as a nonprofit, given progress DeepMind was making. Yeah. So in other words, he was saying all the things that they eventually did that he's now suing them for. I guess he did respond to that and said like, no, I was fine with them having a capped profit situation, which is what they did have until they recently revised it. It's the revisions that he is claiming are somehow damaging to him. I'm not sure how persuasive this will be. There is a jury. I think that part of this is confusing, too. The jury is there to make an advisory decision that the judge will then validate. So the judge makes the final decision. And there's the decision on liability, whether OpenAI is liable for damaging Elon Musk by changing to be more profitable. And then is there damages? What is the remedy for that? And so she could find that it was damaging and that the remedy is pay him a dollar, right? That's probably not what's going to happen. But those are two separate decisions. I mean, so much of this is for folks who are like, isn't Elon Musk the most rich person in the entire world? What's happening here? So I understand that question. I also feel like this does feel like Elon Musk thinks that open AI is really, really important to him. You know, there are other, we've got Grok, right, on X.com. Wait, a competitor to open AI's models. Yes. Yeah. But so it's like, why is he going after this so much? It's not for monetary reasons. He doesn't want to make money. Yeah. Yeah. In fact, he said anything he wins monetarily, he will donate to OpenAI's foundation, right? Yeah. So he's not trying to directly benefit from this. It feels a little bit like a personal squabble. I wouldn't know. I don't know any of them personally. I don't either. It sure feels like that to me too. That's what it, yeah. At this point, it's sort of like, come on, guys. And we're going to get a lot. Everybody's doing really great here. Why are we fighting about this? It is well known that Musk and Altman and Brockman and Slutskiver were the folks who were the main driving force between starting OpenAI. They had a falling out with Musk. And the story goes that Musk wanted to become CEO and take charge of it, and they didn't want that to happen. And so there's been some reporting in the opening statement about that. We're going to get more of that. We're going to get more of those emails about Musk throwing a tantrum and leaving OpenAI and pulling out his funding, all of that, which caused them to make the cap profit situation. Some of that is known. We're going to find out more of that. It's going to be very dramatic to people who follow this sort of thing. Really, if you're not in it for the laws, the only other thing you need to know is who wins in the end, because that could decide whether ChatGPT continues to work as well as it has for you or not. if you're not a user of open AI, it probably isn't going to directly impact your future much. Yeah. Indeed. Let's go on to another CEO facing a challenge. Financial Times reports on two challenges facing incoming CEO John Ternus when he takes over Apple on September 1st. The first challenge, cost of RAM. It is estimated to increase by 400% for Apple in 2027. But Apple has dictated terms in this market. Usually they lock up their supplies in advance, but there's only so far they can go and they are no longer the biggest buyer anymore. So memory is going to go from taking up about 10% of the cost of materials for an iPhone to maybe 45% of the cost of materials for an iPhone. So they either have to figure out a way to get cheaper RAM, which good luck with that, or reduce profit margins or increase the price or probably some combination of both. We will see. They could eat the margins, hoping that they could just get through it and the RAM price comes down later. We'll see what Ternus decides. Then there's the larger supply chain decisions of who assembles the stuff, who makes the stuff. Apple has been attempting to move manufacturing to India, and those moves have not gone as smoothly as they could have because those factories rely on Chinese expertise and Chinese components. You want experts to come tell you, like this is how you set up the factory and you need the pieces to make the stuff. And China has been good at keeping both of those out of Indian factories. So Ternus is going to have to need to balance pressures from both the US, which would like Apple to bring manufacturing to the US, but certainly doesn't want it to happen in China and China, which what's the opposite? They want all the manufacturing to stay in China. I don't know, Sarah. I don't know how much we have to say on this other than like, yes, that's good reporting by the Financial Times. Those do seem to be the big two challenges for turnus i guess my question and we won't hear from it at wwdc because we don't talk about prices for things um but later this year um with apple obviously going through you know getting a new ceo um so they're going to have to navigate that uh pretty delicately uh and And the idea of new iPhone models and makes, a foldable, for example. Stuff like that. How expensive is it going to be? If the RAM challenge, which affects everybody, if that is something that Apple can eat temporarily, the company has the money to do that. Yeah. But. The iPhone they announced two weeks after Ternus takes over won't reflect the increased RAM price quite yet because Apple has locked up supply. Because they've been doing this for a while. It's the 2027 announcements that are going to be the ones where we might start to see some kind of change. Well, and then you get into, you know, you get a lot of analysts saying, oh, you know, Apple has lost their way under the new CEO. And it's like a lot of the stuff has been in the making for quite some time. Yeah. And other companies also having, you know, taken a hit. Yeah, but this is not going to be the easiest of terms. I imagine Tim Cook will probably take a lot of that supply chain heat off. He'll be, you know, glad handling leaders in the U.S. and China still because he's still executive director. So maybe that will take some of the pressure off. And obviously, Cook is the supply chain guy. So if anybody can help figure out the RAM it him But the decisions on that all fall on John Ternus after September 1st I also there a part of me that like if anyone can figure out the RAM it him It like but there isn any Yeah, exactly. If anyone can figure it out, it's him. That doesn't mean he can figure it out. Right. But if he can't, nobody can. Can you make it magically out of air? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Well, YouTube TV has launched multi-view, letting you put any live channel into a quad box. So you can't put recorded or on-demand content into the box. Older equipment, Google estimates about 5% of users aren't going to get these features, but for the newer ones of us, kind of fun. If you watch a lot of sports. A lot of people are really excited about this because it doesn't, it isn't just sports anymore, right? You can now put news in there or movies if they're linear, right? um i i i know you use youtube tv but you don't even really use the multi-view for sports do you not very often i mean march madness sure but otherwise it's like i'm watching the game that i'm watching i'm i'm really not trying to watch like a quad box of a bunch of games but i get why sports is a is is a really good uh way to take advantage of this because you're you're kind of you're kind of watching some game off to the side, but you can choose your audio. Like this is the audio that I'm actually watching, but I'm kind of just, just looking at everything else for, for, for other stuff like news or movies. I don't know. Yeah. I don't, I don't, I, that feels chaotic to me. Our producer Amos was saying he would like this for YouTube so he could put races that he's catching up on, like watching a race that's already happened. Uh, And then watch something else, you know, while he's keeping an eye on the race. So maybe there's stuff like that. I'd be curious feedback at dailytechnewshow.com if you're the person who's like, no, no, no. I've been waiting for the non-sports open quad box because I want to put these things in it. And I haven't been able to do it until now. I personally, the only time I do it is when the Dodgers and the Cardinals are playing at the same time. My wife wants to watch the Dodgers. I want to watch the Cardinals. we'll do a double box on MLB's app. Or maybe, I don't know, something like, I mean, Tom, you go to many more music shows than I do, but something where you're just kind of, you're watching a variety of stuff. Yeah. During Coachella, they do quad boxes on YouTube and that's super useful. Yeah. Yeah. And maybe you care about one more than the other three, but you're still kind of trying to keep your eye on it. Yeah. Yeah. A little update on the fight between Anthropic and the United States government. There is still a declaration that Anthropic is a supply chain risk that is still working its way through the courts with preliminary injunctions. But whether there's a preliminary injunction or not, government agencies kind of have to behave as if it is in effect. Uh, so Axios is reporting that the white house is drafting executive action that could provide a workaround for agencies that want to use Anthropics mythos model to find security vulnerabilities, but they can't right now because there's this whole supply chain risk thing. Uh, according, I know, uh, the action might resolve the whole dispute. That'd be great if they just said, let's just get rid of the whole thing. But apparently some folks at the department of Defense are really dug in on not giving in on this. The other option is that they might just provide an exception for agencies to say like, well, the Department of Defense, Homeland Security, they have to abide by this. But if you're using mythos, you know, executive order grants you an exemption, you're allowed to do this, which would be so silly because the whole point of a supply chain risk is if it's that risky, nobody should use it. But that's where we are now. Yeah, I, you know, I'm not going to laugh because it's not really funny. But the whole idea of the U.S. Department of Defense saying anthropic supply chain risk. However, if we were to use Mythos, maybe we could come to some sort of agreement because we actually really want to use your technology. Well, I don't even know if the Department of Defense wants to use Mythos so much as other agencies are like, great, do you want to have your fight? Fine. We would like to use the Mythos model to find some. Yeah, like, can we use it? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This one's another head scratcher, really. Well, that's where we are with it. And I'm rooting for the executive action that just resolves the whole thing, but I'm not optimistic that that's what we're going to get. Well, we are optimistic about our show, Live With It. You know the show. You know it. Hopefully you love it. It's getting its own home on YouTube. This is very exciting for us. After this week's episode, where I'm reviewing YouTube on the Apple Vision Pro, all new episodes will be at YouTube.com slash at livewithitshow. Please bookmark this. Go subscribe now so you don't miss an episode. It's going to be a lot of fun. All right, let's get to some quick headlines that are going to make you look so smart and probably smell better, too. GitHub maybe smells good. Posted a note about its recent reliability issues saying, we are sorry. Meanwhile, researchers at Wiz published a remote code execution vulnerability affecting GitHub Enterprise Server and GitHub.com. They are really sorry. DJI released the Mic Mini 2. Not the Mac Mini. Mic Mini microphone. It's an update to its popular wireless mic. Has extended range. Can change colors with these little magnetic plates. And has some new voice tone presets. And it's cheaper. Available in Europe. Not yet in the United States. Hasn't been certified by the FCC, but available in Europe for 89 euros or 89 pounds for the camera kit. That gives you two transmitters and a receiver or 49 euros, 54 pounds for the mobile kit, which is one transmitter and one receiver. Hmm. Speaking of Europe, the European Commission issued a preliminary finding that Facebook and Instagram fell short in enforcing a minimum 13-year-old age restriction because it had no effective controls in place to check the correctness of the self-declared date of birth. Meta can now dispute the findings and propose remedies before a final finding is made. Meta basically was like, no, but we could tell. yeah we knew we could tell if they were lying trust us uh following open ai's new deal with microsoft that we mentioned earlier this week open ai's models are now available on amazon's aws so if you've been waiting for that as an aws customer yay go get them now apple doesn't let vibe coding apps modify the apps code meaning previews of any apps that you make have to be done on the web. One of the biggest apps Lovable has just launched an update on the App Store One of the first to update to comply with these guidelines Yeah These are new guidelines that Apple put in place caught some of those vibe coding apps uh flat footed when they like okay but if you vibe code an app how do you play with it to make sure it works the way you want? Um, well, you got to kick it out to the web and lovable is like one of the big ones. So kind of a notable moment that they're very lovable. And they are very lovable too. It's right there in the name. Uh, Hey, you know what I love when CES announcements ship. Here's another one for you. Asus has opened orders for that ROG Zephyrus Duo, the huge hinged 16-inch dual display laptop that they announced at CES. You can now order it. So go spend some money on it if you want. In celebration of its 20th year, Google Translate launched a new feature for Android that helps guide pronunciation. English, Spanish, Hindi. Well, that doesn't help me. I mean, you probably need some help. I need help with pronouncing Spanish too. But that's not one of the ones I'm actively trying to learn at the moment. Yeah, it's rolling out. The company says it's coming to more languages soon. But I'm into this because I cannot tell you how many times I open up a tab on Google and I'm like, how to pronounce whatever word. Yeah, yeah. Just help me because there's always a YouTube video there. I wonder how it handles accents though, you know, because like Mexican pronunciation is different than Spain. Very true. Yeah. A revival of six second looping video app. Vine has launched on Google Play and Apple's app store. Everyone. We're back. Decades. National nightmare is over. Has 500,000 archived Vine videos. So you can see the hits of the past, but you can also post new ones. Some of the old Vine creators are coming back and celebrating. It's a Jack Dorsey-backed thing too. So yeah, Vine fans. It's called the Vine. And I mean, the whole Vine and then what ended up being TikTok was at one point very similar. TikTok is a totally different platform at this point. Yeah. But yeah, I'm interested to see, you know, what kind of creativity we get out of it. Certainly a nostalgia play. I'm curious if it sticks. Yeah. Yeah. Microsoft released the source code for the 86 DOS 1.00 kernel, as well as early development snapshots of PC DOS 1.00. I always love a little open sourcing of legacy code. And then I wanted to point this out. Wired Wired has a write-up from Will Knight on a robotic arm called Eka, E-K-A, that can do so many different kind of tasks with different levels of sensitivity, very delicate things, very rough things, that Knight, who covers this space very well, says it feels like we may be approaching a chat GPT moment for physical devices, like for robotics. Worth a read. Go check it out at Wired. We like to end every episode of DTNS with some shared perspectives, and we count on you to help us with that. Today, Andrew is helping us understand. Yeah, Andrew was listening to the Pocket OS production deletion story where a little bit of code, a little bit of, I believe it was cursor's code, got out of hand. The agent deleted an entire development platform. And Andrew said, I was taken aback not by the deletion, but by the way of working. It sounded like they gave the AI access to the same level of the running system with permissions that could affect change. Now, it's been 20 years since web-based deployment pipeline tools were released and infrastructure as code was developed. Best practices backed by good data have coalesced around the idea that humans shouldn't directly make changes to running systems. Instead, they should build and test a repeatable way to deploy the system that the tools then deploy. AI behaves much more like a human than a repeatable tool and should probably be treated as such in this case, direct access to change things. Setting up these processes take time, even though they tend to be faster and safer once implemented. And a lot of places I've worked start with humans having access to everything and doing bespoke work with a plan to automate later, usually eventually spurred on by a production incident. I think we're speed running all those steps with agents right now. In short, don't be mad at the agent. Be mad at the lack of good process. At least that's what Andrew thinks. So thank you. That kind of goes in line with most of the reactions we got where people are like, the agent should have not done this. Yes, but it shouldn't have been able to do it. So there's plenty of blame to go around. Humans getting blamed yet again. Yet again. We are always the weak links where the problem exists between keyboard and computer. But who made that agent, huh? Who watches The Watchers? Also, Andrew was one of the people who wrote in about IPv8. Several people pointed out that there is a lively discussion going on about whether the proposal for IPv8 that was drafted and published on the IETF is serious or not. Because I could go publish a draft on IETF. It's not as easy as Wikipedia edits or something like that. And, you know, it's it takes a little something, but you can do it. It's not like you have to get through a big approval process to get it up there. And how many people are really trying to, like, get through that trend? No, but I guess some people are like somebody did, you know, generated a proposal and then did this on a lark to see if they could cause a stir. To see if they could. It's not impossible. But there's a debate over whether this is just not a very good proposal with some technical weaknesses or a total joke. But thanks to Jerry in the Discord for bringing this up. We had a really good discussion about it. And I think we both came down on the idea of like, yeah, could be a joke. Seems more likely that it's, you know, somebody trying to come up with something that has some holes in it. But people are calling it AI slop. And I'm like, it's better than AI slop. Even if it was generated, it's better than that. But that doesn't mean it's perfect. Your mileage may vary. Maybe you think it's a total joke, but something good to let people know about. Well, you might be very prolific in our Discord, and we appreciate that. But if you're thinking about something, you have an insight into a story, maybe you have something sparked your interest that we talked about already, you can also share with us feedback at dailytechnewsshow.com. Big thanks to Andrew and to Jerry for contributing to today's show. Thank you for being along for Daily Tech News Show. You're the folks who keep us in business. If you would like to become a patron, you can do so. And if you're at the very top tier, you get your name at least once a month in the show. Patreon.com slash DTNS. The DTNS family of podcasts, helping each other understand. Diamond Club hopes you have enjoyed this program.