2027 Nissan Z Nismo Manual Review; Lambo Update

Alright folks, on this episode of the podcast, my review of the Nismo Z with a manual gearbox, plus our video up on YouTube, make sure to check that out, updates to two of my cars, and if you're going to represent with a sticker a certain type of group, you better represent the rest of your car in a positive way. It's the Smoking Tire podcast, let's go. Guys, the Smoking Tire is giving away a 992.1 Turbo S in partnership with Dream Giveaways. We're giving away a $275,000 car with some slick choice mods. The proceeds benefit charity and you don't have to buy any merch, it's a straightforward entry process, so hit the link in the show notes and get entered to win today. Go wait a minute, hang on a second. Hi everybody, welcome to the program. Talking about how long, if I, we might have a gig at Chuck Wall and I was talking about if I could take the Tycon, I can't, I have to stop and charge in case you were wondering, but speaking of which, I'm getting it back tomorrow, it's been in the shop for 10 days. Now in fairness, I told them it wasn't a big deal because I had other things to drive and like whatever and that 10 days did include two weekends. You know what I mean? Like I dropped it off on like a Friday and so we had the three recalls done, but they had to get parts because they're not greasing the bushings because my suspension was creaky, they are replacing the bushings. Also maybe it's not a serviceable bushing. Maybe maybe not, I'm going to pick it up tomorrow and I'll have a further update on that. That's cool though. Nuevo bushings, so I wonder if that affects anything else, like how it steers or something. It probably not, but we'll see. Maybe it will feel different, maybe it will feel tighter, but yay extended warranty. That's the first, that and that some little valve in the air conditioning. Those are the only two things my warranty has covered. It's been about eight months, right? Or no, you got December. 18 months. I got it in December of 2024. Oh right. Yeah, it's been 18 months. Pretty reliable thing. Yeah. It's very much is. So that's all right. But interestingly, I did get the second bill from Franco's European Sports Cars on the Kuntas and actual work was done. I bought the bushings through Donnie. So the bushings were $13,000. The bushings for a Kuntas are $13,000. How many bushings are there? So many. That's a better be. Thank you for asking. 13,000 of them. It's all rose joints. It's like basically like a 70s Le Mans car is basically how a Kuntas is set up. Good Lord. And there's a million bushings. And there's dual shock. There's look up like the diagram of a Kuntas suspension. There's a lot happening in a Kuntas suspension for real. And so there's these bushings and they're very hard to come by and they look weird. There's in the in that video with Donnie, we pulled them out and looked at them and they look funky. Well, it's like a cylinder. It's right. Isn't it? Normally, it looks like a cylinder. These are more like they're like they're on multiple angles. Front suspension parts. What does the diagram from Eurospares look like? Busy. Yeah. It's busy. Yeah, it is busy. The rear is actually even crazy. The rear is real crazy. But there's lots of bushings and they are my gosh pop up city. There's lots of bushings and they are really, really expensive. Well, I think the ones we saw, I remember were these. Yeah. It looks like a cylinder with bushing in the middle and another little cylinder where the bolt goes through. But I think are you talking about like the Heim joints? It's also the Heim joints. Yes, it's all that. A lot of the adjustable things. So it's bushings and the Heim joints. So anyway, fortunately, those have come out in the wash long time ago. I forgot about that. That years ago, the price of the actual bushings. But this bill, this month's bill, was they got the tool to fix the thing. So they rebuilt the hubs once they had the tool. New fucking bearings in the, or grease all the bearing, clean everything. Like everything looks and looks nice and new. It's good. And then reassembly of the suspension and $6,000 more. Yeah. Reassembling suspension, like they took the shocks apart. Well, the shocks and all that. Yeah, the shocks had gone out for, but that's not in this. Oh, they just put them together. They just, no. They went out to, go ahead. Penske or Coney, I think Coney, whichever one's in Florida, they go to Florida. They came back. I don't believe the cost of them being rebuilt was in this. This was just putting them on the car. Well, assembling like full, you know, for the full suspension and the cleaning and reassembly the hubs. Yeah, but it's like, it was like 23 hours of work. The hourly rate is expensive for a reason. This is an expert person. And for expensive cars. And then like, yeah, when you, it's funny when you take the total amount paid, if you know the hourly, you can just divide and go, like, okay, that took that long. Yeah. It's not even that long. Yeah, it's not even that long. No, it's not even that long. Wow. Yeah, yeah. I don't know how to do it. So. It's okay. As everyone will say, you'll get all the money back if you ever sell it, which you won't. That's in, in theory, yes. But yeah. Right. Right. What I really want is a running, driving car. Yeah. And so in the meantime, it's just, oh, it's just lighting money on fire. Oh boy. Oh boy. But it'll be great when we have a running, driving car. That will be the thing. And then we have to like go somewhere. What do you think will be done first, the, the Kuntosh or the Mercedes? Oh, the Mercedes probably. Probably the Mercedes. Yeah. Because like Schaunt is like a fucking man on a mission. Yeah. That's true. He wants to get it done because it helps him advertise his shop, but still August and Kuntosh, they have all the parts, right? For Kuntosh. Yeah. We were missing three parts. We're missing some tie rods ends. They weren't very expensive. I mean, by normal car standards, you know, but they weren't like it wasn't anything horrible. It just crossed the threshold of I need to approve this. Yeah. Little, little things, nothing, nothing big. But I'm saying for timeline, is it like they do they have all of the things they need? And it's just about them scheduling your car with other, other cars. They haven't found anything else that is missing yet. There might be little bits of hardware that are missing that they haven't quite got around to. I'm not sure they inventoried every single like, you know, fastener and nut and bolts because those are things that are easy to get. When they did the inventory, I think it was really of a pretty inventory of the important bits, right? Which are, which are there? We have, we're not missing any important bits. And I'm not trying to pit the shops against each other. There is something funny though with like, on the one side, we have a Kuntosh, which has as far as we know, most of the parts it needs. On the other hand, we're putting a whole new engine and transmission into a different car and widening it and reprogramming the computer so it works. Yeah. And that's happening on the other side of the country. Yeah. Right now. And then the cars come back here. It's true. And yet a complete repaint, a complete new interior in a rebuild of the hydraulics on the top. So like, yeah, there's objectively more to do on the Mercedes. But Chant is on a mission. Now we could, we should put Damien on a mission. I think it's the answer. We need to set up a race, maybe with a little prize, I don't know, something. Maybe that could help. I think it would just make the bills so much bigger though. I think we're still, this is in line with what I'm able to pay. That's fine. Yeah. You know, forgetting this done. I mean, you also don't need the Kuntosh done by Car Week because we're going to Detroit and having, getting an escalated press car. So like, you don't have a finished line that's required. I have no, no, no. I'd like, it would be nice if I could drive it like, you know, for my birthday, but like, if I can't like, whatever, you know, give me a shit, but. You should specify which birthday. That was, yeah, that's happened a couple of times. That happened with failure to specify birthday. It's a funny one. Happened with my DeLorean. I, I, I got it for what was going to be my 30th birthday, but took delivery on my 31st because of the restoration. Portia ordered in August was going to be for my 40th birthday. Sunk in the fucking ocean. It ended up being 41st birthday. Yeah, it's happened. It's okay. Just got an email from a customer. Fucking unfortunate, not even a customer actually, a guy who was on our wait list and I scroll back to his original email fucking guy. He emailed me April of 2025. My new car is coming in April of 2025. My new car is coming in. I'm going to need a spot. Okay. Here, you know, we'll put you on the list, whatever, you know, let me know when the car comes in three months later. It's been bumped three months later. It's been bumped. And then I didn't turn from him after that to the point where like when he emailed me again, like I didn't even recognize the person's name. Like it's been, who knows how long. And they're like, oh, look, there's still been a thing. And it's like, it's a year and a month later, there's still a hold. I bet you this is some like PTSD plus plus something. Yeah, exclusive manufacturer thing. Wow, that's a long delay. But and he was like, I don't even know at this point. I was like, well, you know, call us back whenever, whenever you find out. The word on Konigssegg, like what is it? Maybe, I don't know. I don't know. It did take my dad like over like over a year, I think to get his cayenne because of paint the sample. I mean, it was like during like COVID-ish, ish COVID-ish times. He ordered it in like 21. Yeah, they were still catching up. I mean, I think it took a while for the industry to catch up with us. Yeah. What's happening over there? Yeah, all right. Just worried I was going to pull the computer off the desk. Oh, that would be a problem. Dude this morning, do you see the color of the Aston Martin DB12? Yes. This is not the second day in the row where I've accidentally color coordinated with an orange Aston Martin, which is something you really feel like an asshole when you realize you've like you're getting out of this car and wearing the same color. You really feel very silly. People generally act on the street favorable towards Aston Martins. I have found that women don't really like Lamborghini colored Aston Martins because I've seen a couple cringy looks from women towards me in this car. Whereas like my friends and neighbors seem to think it's very cool. But they know you. But they know that you're not a douche. They know me. They know it's not my car. You know what I mean? So they like they think it's cool. But like random on the street went to Abbot Kenny, which for those who don't know LA is like the sort of. It's the fancy part of Venice. Yeah, but it's not like rodeo drive fancy. It's like it's like where there's like Viori and Outer Known and it's where you could accidentally spend $200 on a knit cap. Yes. Boutiques. It's boutiques. A yoga shawl. Yeah. It's boutiques and fancy fancy restaurants that are casual but somehow are $300 for a meal. But I had to go buy some some some overpriced t-shirts and the ladies were out. It was it was LMU graduation weekend. So it was like like LMU girls and their families just everywhere. And which is fine. I'm glad the commerce was happening. But the the the moms of the girls in particular were not about like it was a particular age and brand of white woman that was like at my car in a way that I could see. Well, I wonder if either that age of woman, you know, her her her ex maybe second ex has an Aston bought an Aston and she hates it or maybe like I think it is one of the well they used to be they used to be like the more subtly shaped supercar. I think they're they're classy. They're associated with that. And now they've gotten very extroverted looking because they need more cooling and all that stuff. Yeah. Is it that or is it just the orange color? I mean orange is very bold. Orange is very bold. You don't see orange cars very often even even within Lamborghini but outside it. Yeah. I can't think of many cars that are offered in that. Which is a bummer. More cars should come in orange. But you did. Straight up. Yes. No, no more car. And Aston Martin in orange is a bit of a juxtaposition. Same as the Bentley. Remember had an orange Bentley a year ago. True. And like actually as far as press car goes like shout out to a good thumbnail. Good thumbnail. Like that's what I'm asking for. Make all the press cars bright orange and lime green and shit. The the advantage I drove with the track was orange. Yeah. About it. Yeah. A vantage in orange I think is less weird than a than a DB 12 in orange which I think is positioned as somehow more elegant even though it's like not really. 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Head over to quince.com slash tire for free shipping on your order and 365 day returns, now available in Canada too. That's quince.com slash tire for free shipping and 365 day returns. Quince.com slash tire. This car is like almost double the price of the Vantage S. And when you're sitting in the driver's seat and like looking forward, it is... You can't tell. I don't want to say you can't tell because they do drive different. The DB12S has more legroom, some things like that. Like there are things that do matter that are different. This is $401,000 and that blue Vantage S we had that was fucking magnifique. So good. It was like two and a little bit. Like two and a little bit and it was like a lot the same. Well there's quite a bit of parts sharing in the interior. That's what I meant by they look this, they feel the same. And I remember when we had the Vantage S, I looked at that because the last, the last thing we had before that was the DB12 Valante. And I went, oh this takes the money from that car because unless you want the drop top and you want people to know that you have the money for the larger car, like when you sit down unless you're a little bit taller than I am, like it looks the same and you get to... And it's a good thing for the Vantage. It gets to have all of these like nice pieces and nice interior stuff. Well, we'll come back to this. I don't want to go too deep because without you driving it. Because there are differences. And I had it up on the mountain yesterday. I found it quite delightful. So we'll come back to that one. But I want to talk about the main story today, which is the Nismo Z manual embargo is off today this morning. Right? 18th. We didn't fuck up, right? Better because the video is up. Better be the Nissan Z. When I drove this thing like two years ago, it was automatic only. But otherwise, honestly, like great car. Really good car. Seriously good car. But now they've listened. Their people are very smart. And they've listened. They've put a manual in. They've also done some other things. They've got some new wheels. They've got brake rotors from the R35 GTR, which is 16 pounds of unsprung weight reduced. The manual isn't exactly the same as the manual in the performance model. It's got better shifter bushings and a slightly shorter shifter throw. The length of the throw is a little bit reduced. So and they've retuned the steering and the shocks have larger tubes for a bit better resistance to heat on track days. Also there was an issue apparently when on track days with the last year's cars with you could get a fuel starvation issue when you had a low fuel in the tank. They've done some baffling and reshaping of the fuel tank and doing some things like that. Not reshaping the fuel tank. That's not the right word. Hang on. What do they do to fix the fuel thing? Did I write this down? That's funny. I didn't write down the fueling thing. I didn't write down what they changed to do to fix the issue with the low fuel starvation issue but it's fixed. That's the important bit. They've developed the car to run a 30 minute track session at Button Willow in 95 degree heat. Not an easy thing. Which is not an easy thing. The shifter is a six millimeter shorter. Has unique throttle mapping. It has a unique pressure plate and clutch which is separate from the regular Z. Retuned power steering which actually was something I didn't have much of an issue with last time but they said people complained about certain things. Yeah reinforced gearbox mounts, bushings and case. Right. Minus 20 pounds on spring weight and from cooling. The gearbox itself saves 30 kilos versus the automatic equipped car. It's also apparently cheaper. I don't know if Nissan, they didn't tell us pricing at the launch. Did they announce pricing this morning? Because someone off the record told me it does start with a six and not a seven. Rotantrax is they're still missing the number for the price. They think it's going to be around 70 grand. Yeah. Well, yeah. Official. So someone, you know, don't hold me to it but someone off the record said at the event said, well, I guess is it not off the record? They sort of nodded. Yeah, they do that. I was like, will it start with a seven and they're like, and I was like, would start with a six and they're like. It's like a subtle auction thing. Yeah, when the longbow guys were here and I was like, oh, is that shift are going to be for a future sequential thing? And there was like a little eyebrow, but they can't say yes. But you know, now, I mean, and that's like, there are people that are like, oh my God, even the last time, 67,000 for a Nissan. It's like, oh, hang on a minute. This is a very developed car at this point. Like the NISMO one really is. And the real competition is going to be your M twos, right? Your, your, your basis of base Corvettes. Yeah. Really your basis of Corvettes Supra Supra and Mustang. Yeah. Performance pack slash dark horse. Yeah. Really dark horse. Yeah. I mean, for the money for the NISMO really dark horse. Now the M two in the dark horse were faster on the track, but I would argue neither was as good on the road. Oh, okay. Like and, and, and yes, the stay, they were faster on the track, which to me is what negated Nissan's argument for paddle shifters, you know, for an automatic. There's, oh, it's for lap times. Look, obviously if you care about lap times, you, you would buy a stick shift dark horse. Not, not an automatic Nissan. But the last dark horse I drove, the one I used for that dyno test, that price started with an eight, not even a seven. And the M two absolutely starts with a seven. You're not really getting M twos brand new starting with a six in 2026. And then of course you can jump to the CS for that's like a hundred. So with the dark horse weighs 4,000 pounds, dark horse weighs 4,000 pounds. It's huge. It's just, it's a huge car. So like the, I like, so then the Supra is going away, right? I think this Nissan drives better than the Supra. I really do. I think the steering is better. I think the braking is better. I think the balance is better. I think you can make a Supra go faster in a straight line with tuning, but stock for stock, I'll take the Nissan over the Supra. I would. What's really, really good about this car is that it's the right balance of, I mean, obviously it's, it's like 3,600 pounds, which is heavier than people want sports cars to be. But in 2026, that's not that bad. It's got a low center of gravity. It's got a short wheelbase. It's a tight package. It's got a small footprint, but I could still, you know, I'm six two and with a helmet on, I could still fit in it. Or attract a comfortably, but it's, you know, 420 horsepower, 385 pound feet with a manual gearbox and a nice even, you know, power band, good, good, smooth power band. It's like the kind of fast balanced sports car that is like the night, the right gap in between Miata or Boxster and like really fast stuff. Like Corvette or zero six or yeah. It's engaging to drive. The shifter is nice. It has the auto rev matching. If you want it, you can turn it off. It has two levels of traction control and stability control, but not much. You know, it has drive modes. It actually does have a regular and a sport throttle map and then it has the two modes of traction control, but there's, and there's hard buttons for them. You don't need touch screens for either of those. It's amazing that that's like, that's such a small number of drive modes and track modes compared to like Corvettes, you know, have all this adjustability. And I guess one it's Nissan, like that's the budget they have. But also if you know that you're either going to have a pretty decent traction control like for track driving or you just go full off, give people two options, you know who your market is. Yeah, like and with most manual cars don't have a bunch of drive modes. Drive modes are usually equated to smart gearboxes. That's true. You know, because if you've got a stick, you don't really want to change your throttle map like too much, right? Maybe a little, a little bit, but not, but not actually that much. Even in, in, in like my, in Boxster, like there is a, there is a button, but like all it does is like turn off a cylinder deactivation and shit like that. But if you have a PDK car, it does a whole bunch of other things in the manual cars. Did you drive on track full off the whole time? Or did you try it with their sport traction? I tried, I tried a session with it in, in sport while I was doing the mounts. And I found it actually, this car has a shitload of rear grip. Like, yes, you can slide it, but it won't just decide it's not a car that's just gonna slide whether you want to or not. Like even if you drive full off, you've got to do a bit of a flick to get it to slide. It won't just immediately go into a slide. The way the CS did. Yeah. No, the CS would immediately go into a slide. But the CS has a hundred more horsepower than this with effectively the same wheelbase. Man, maybe slightly longer, but not much longer wheelbase. This has the, these Dunlop tires, which I really like. They're the SP Sport Max, SP Sport something. They're basically the same ones that came on my, on my spider, which I really like. But just this car, they do a lot right. You know, the steering wheel is a circle and it's the same diameter and thickness of the R32 GTR wheel, which is like bang on. The pedal placement is really nice. The general driving position is really nice. It's quick on a track. It's not set the world on fire fast on a track. It's quick on the track. It's really fast as a road car. I just, I'm not, I didn't get to drive it on the road at all, the manual, but I'm just remembering from the, we drove the automatic on the road. It's like super fast as a road car. Well, and isn't it, these days, there's plenty of ways we can get speed on a race track. And it's so much of what we're missing is fun connection from driver to seat to car to wheels. Like that's what we're looking for now, because you can get power and outright speed all over the place. Yeah. It has a more, what I really like about this car and that both the dark horse and the M2 lack a little bit. The M2 CS had those really amazing dampers, but outside of that, it wasn't to me as like connected as I wanted. And the dark horse is really fast and really sticky, but it's like big and like the steering is like super digital, right? Yeah. It's a foot longer than the Z and in the wheelbase is seven inches longer. Yeah. Huge car. Yeah. I mean, it has a back seat to the fairness, but it is a much bigger car and the hood is much higher. Everything is higher. So this, what you really have is I think best in class precision control. The front tires to the steering, that's best in class. The rear foot to the rear tires, without the, it doesn't have the ability to like instantly vaporize the way the M2 does, but it's still a good amount of rear control on the pedal. Like a lift just like makes the nose just tuck right in. And if you're a little too heavy on the throttle, it's not just like insane instant, you know, spin. It's like it's really a good car for a lot more people than would consider probably looking at it. Sounds like it's set up like the 235 IR race car, you know, good balance. Your changes on your right foot or left foot, your brake or your gas influence the car, the balance, the stickiness of either end, you know, all that stuff. Like that, but lower and faster. Powerful. Yeah, and faster. And the brakes are really, really good. It's Acabono calipers with this R35 GTR vented rotor. They lasted no problem. So I really, I really, really, really like this car. I mean, it's just a great sports car. I don't think, I don't think if you're going to, if you're going to have a car without putting people in the back seat, I don't think you should get a back seat. You should get a two seat car. It's got a big trunk, like the hatchback, like it holds like a bunch of stuff. Does this in a way take the place where the cheaper came in was? Guys, support is coming in today from ZockDock. Join me in this one. Raise your hand if you've put off a dental cleaning, an annual checkup, or any kind of doctor's appointment. Yep. Me too. Yes. Hand is up. And when something feels off, I will usually first, you know, maybe assume nothing is wrong, but then doom scroll symptoms, right? Self-diagnose. Quietly spiral. 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If you're saying best in class of all of these metrics, my brain immediately went to came in because those I think used to be best in class for that price point in terms of talking to your hands and your butt so we don't have that anymore. Those cars also got more expensive with a good engine. Yeah, I'd probably rather have this than a base came in. This is like two sports cars kind of what the early 2000s Mini Coupers were like compared to STI Evo, STI Evo, but I bought that John Cooper Works Mini and I didn't make a wrong decision there. That's the fucking under the radar one. Right. For the connoisseur. Maybe. I mean, if you really give a shit about what car Jethro can go quicker around Thunderhill in, if that's really important to you, then by the one, I think, I forget, I don't even remember which one it was. I don't remember which one went quickest. I just remember the other two went quicker than the automatic Z. But like in terms of like, do I want to connect with a machine for the task of enthusiast driving? Like this is actually quite a good value. The performance is we did some laps in the performance. Like that's not a bad car either by any means. But if you're going to be doing serious track work or like for truly mobbing canyons every weekend and like pushing the brakes, pushing the tires like the Z, then the Nismo is like a lot better. It's worth the it's worth the premium they charge for it. I think the performance is like an amazing daily though. It's a really nice car. But once you start pushing it, you start feeling all these softer points or it's flaws and you want to change that in the aftermarket, but then you could just get it from Nissan. Yeah. I mean, it is more expensive if someone asked not to jump ahead to questions, but I think it's $25,000 difference between performance and the Nismo. Yeah, 23, 25, something like that. Yeah. Yeah, it is. It's a lot more and it's not a totally different car, but a lot of the stuff that they change, you can't really do in the aftermarket. Like the steering. Yeah. So was the steering tuning, was that they tuned the E-PASS system or they changed hardware also? Well, no, they tuned the E-PASS system. The hardware they changed was the shocks, which are bigger tubes. Sorry, I meant did they change anything in the steering system itself? It says retuned E-PASS. So I don't ... To be perfectly honest with you, without having last year's car, it would be ... I liked the steering a lot in last year's car. I guess people didn't. Whatever people complained about, maybe they fixed. But without having last year's car right there, I couldn't tell you the difference. It's been two years since I drove it. Sorry. Well, as we know from 911ST, what can be done in a year with just programming is remarkable. Sure. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, if you have two more years to fiddle with something, you can refine the shit out of it. See ever, every Aston Martin S. Right. Yeah, very true. So I really dug it. The video's up on the YouTubes. Please go watch it. It's short. It's like nine minutes or something. It is. Yeah. You know, there's not a lot of differences. And I feel like on a racetrack, I said what needed to be said. Got it out. I mean, I think we've covered it. So, but it's a great car. Honestly, it's a car a lot of people should be buying. And now that there's a stick available, they did the thing, guys. They didn't do it the first time. Get it. But now they're doing it. You should fucking buy this car because if you don't, it's going to be a reason to not make cars like this. After people like me yelled about it and then they did it, now you have to buy it. So I hope you do. I know that the price, it ain't nothing. That's real money for a real car. Were there anything that, did anything jump out that you didn't like? I know you didn't get to drive it on the road. But it may be, and it may be stuff that carries over from the previous cars, just general ergonomics or buttons or whatever. No. I mean, this car has different seats. People in the comments on the YouTube video say that they don't like that the Riccaro seat seemed like it was moving in the video. I am certain that that's not, like, that if it does, it's like, at first it's not a bucket. It's a power seat. I am certain that if it is, quote, moving, it's because it's designed to have a certain amount of give under high G loads. Like, I don't think, at no point when I was driving this car, I was like, this seat is not structurally sound. I mean, it is not a race car. It's a street car seat. It has that Riccaro high back that you've seen in various other performance cars from Mitsubishi Evos to the European Focus RS. It's a seat everybody's seen before. In my opinion, its quality is not in question. Now, if I'm, yeah, that's it. If it's just like, I'm fat and high G loading the seat, well, so be it. But it also has some padding. So it does have some give to it. It's not a fucking GT3 bucket carbon seat. But it has pretty deep bolsters. But there's a, obviously there's a hinge down there for the seats to be able to adjust, the seat back to be able to lean. So maybe that's the flex point. Yeah, I don't know. But it didn't certainly didn't feel that way in the car. It's not something I would be questioning. And also, I mean, there's a funny thing that happens. Like if you get a seat, a seat in a sports car that doesn't have deep enough bolstering, the force that you're putting on the seat is less than a seat that has deep bolstering. And therefore you're using more of your arms and legs and whatever bracing you're doing to hold yourself in place. Right. And you're taking that work off of the seat. So maybe this holds you better, like wraps around you more, but therefore there's more force put on the seat. I don't know. That's it. Actually, that's a very good point, Glamon. I am definitely down. But I'm down with this car. I can't wait. I hope they leave some press cars in New York. New York, Jesus wanted to say. In LA. So I was just fantasizing about being in New York. It's springtime. It is nice there in the springtime. Yeah. I hope they leave some press cars in LA. If not, maybe I can get one in New York for the Hudson Quatrocento Road and Track event. If you guys want to come drive with me in New York in October, we're doing that. Experiences.roadandtrack.com. One more funsies item. Okay. This was a thought. I have to tread a little carefully because if you use the wrong words when talking about this topic, I could get myself in trouble. So I don't want to try to get myself in trouble here. I was driving to work this morning and I'm sitting in traffic and I'm behind a Toyota Corolla, the loud exhaust on it and rims. And across the back window, it says lady driven in a script. Cool. I'm happy that this woman is driving a modded Corolla. And I'm happy to see a woman in the car community driving fucking anything hard or modded or whatever. But the car was dennyed the fuck up and like missing half of the rear bumper. And it made me think like if you're going to display with any kind of any type of pride who you are on the outside of your vehicle, if your vehicle then- It's not a good representative of the community. Leads into the stereotype. Leads into a poor stereotype about that community. That is very funny. I think you might be doing a disservice to both yourself and to the community. That is pretty funny. Because the broken bumper. When you started this story, like yesterday I saw a guy driving an Acura TSX loud lowered. Kind of beat up and he had a sticker on the gas cap, the Acura emblem. It's like just in case people forget. And I was like this is a kind of beat up. He's having fun and he's in the cars and he's got the budget and just putting his money in the kind of the wrong place but it's okay. But then you got to broken bumper. I was like oh she wins. Yeah. But like if you know it could be a national flag that you're talking about. It could be some other type of affiliation or your pride in any type of group or gender or whatever that you're involved in. You better make sure the rest of the car is consistent with the portrayal of your group that you would like to portray. That is very funny. Not just it goes beyond the borders of the rear window lady. I can see the sticker. I have a picture of the fucking sticker cracked up or the bumper and I was like oh dude. Well the sticker is probably cheaper than the bumper to replace. And it was probably installed there first but the circumstances have changed. Right. You know the budget. The budget. Yeah. That is funny. Especially when the stereotype is there and it's unjustified like men getting much larger wrecks. Yeah. We have more deaths than women on the road. But when the sticker is above evidence of something. Now maybe she got hit by a man. Maybe a man driving a car hit her car. I thought that. It's the rear bumper. I was like maybe she got rear ended. Right. By the guy in the Pontiac. Well I moved into the right lane. I passed lady driven front bumper to. She got pushed into a car in front of her. Have you not seen that someone get rear ended before. Not over. You're right. At a high rate of death. You're right. Yeah. There was damage on the side also. Three cars at once. Okay. So it was like it was always. It's just a big pile up. There's one of those 20 car pile ups in the middle of the fog and ice. Yeah. And it's amazing. She had to live out of the car for eight days. Yeah. Well I mean without her quick thinking and reactive reactions and you know perfect trail braking and whatnot she avoided a large accident. That's a good point. It could have been much worse. I should I should I rescind. I rescind. I'm offended. I should have showed more respect. Yeah. It's funny. As as we crossed the intersection here the not right outside the shop but a couple intersections up the big major one. Boy did she do a three lane change maneuver that that that all women should be proud of. The maneuver that saved her life in that foggy icy pile up man. Yeah. Yeah. So since we're on the topic there are some funny cars that around here there's a I was walking the dog and there's a Jaguar I think X like an old XJ what 12 and the hood was popped just a little bit like this person in my it just made me think like on their way home they had a problem because of course Jaguar they had to pop the hood to fill with a wire then they got home and parked it and they're like I'm not going to latch this because it's probably going to have to do this to get started. I will need this put up in a minute. There's a I took a picture of it yesterday because I was walking I my neighbor gave me shout out to my neighbor Amit who just got his first Porsche. I said you got a C4S because I told like everybody in my neighborhood is getting their first Porsche in my neighborhood is like full of 996 C4S's and 997S's. Mm hmm. Everyone there's probably there's probably the 996 C4S and 997S comprise probably there's probably nine to 11 examples within a quarter mile of my house that I know of like just I'm surrounded by which is great. Anyway he gave me his weighted vest so I've been walking with a 25 pounder which is feels like a feels like a workout. Yeah. I assume that's why people do it all the way to the top of very big hills and back with the workout but yesterday I walked past a neighbor's house and it was a Jag XJC you know like those the the curve you know what XJC is before the XJS it was Jaguars coupe and it was a it's Harry Harry Metcalf's got one top left that's all these look so good. Yeah it's it's the XJ but a coupe version it's a two door pillarless XJ. It's gorgeous. It looks badass as hell right. Yes. So there's a guy in my neighborhood who's got one of these and it's on like a BBS looking wheels which is pretty cool but it has a land down roof. Oh no. Why? Who? Who thought that was a good idea? I'm mad at them but cocaine was probably a thing and then like they kept but people just keep it going. They keep driving around and now we see sometimes you see newer cars that have had them added like aftermarket land down you know just a carpet stapled onto like a 2012 Cadillac. Bro I saw a 2024 like a like a 2020 something newer than 2020 Lexus LS with a land down the other day. Dude crazy. So imagine this with a land down but the guys get get coming out of his house to get in it and I'm like you know being nice hey man that's a cool that's a cool XJC. He's at it for 40 years. Whoa. And I go oh man that's was I was that I go that's a six right or is it a 12 he goes he goes it's an LS. I go oh okay you know you know a thing about it. Yeah he was tired of dealing with it. It's got a 5.7 and like a GM you know six speed auto in it but Harry Metcalf like hot rod in his 12 cylinder one it's got a manual. I want to see I can find an XJC with a land out but go down isn't that one. Is that one does that have it no maybe. Oh yeah it does that's kind of that's kind of it's at the leather land out. Yeah that this the one is stealthy. Yeah that's that's more period this one is done. Yeah that's like that's not so bad. I mean it's bad but it's not it's color match. It's the one we're looking at people is like the cloth. Yeah this is black leather on a black car but when you see like tan anything on like a red burgundy car it just jumps out and it's like yeah I like more upkeep than paint. I wanted a Jaguar that has requires more maintenance you know you got to go get like you should buy the one from Home Depot here for a daily. The one that's downstairs. There's one of these downstairs. It's not a C there's that we have a we have a series I want to say it's a series one XJ series one downstairs that's a fucking that galpin built that's got a full Corvette powertrain in it with an automatic GM automatic. Yeah it's one level oh like the sedan like Carl's car like Carl's but not not turned down the crazy just a little bit but yes basically that and the guy wants out of it. It's fucking murdered it's black but it's black. Yeah it's fucking nuts. I would be like what is it. It'll be the sickest daily ever and actually I think it would work perfectly if you drove it every day. It's the kind it's the kind of car that would just be like fine if you just. Well it's a Corvette engine. Yeah it's Corvette stuff. I mean I've been thinking lately like I'm just doing such short trips in my car. I mean I either drive here which doesn't warm the car up. It is actually quite bad for it or I do like a normal you know tour around town and that's fine. So if I got a daily it should probably be an EV or hybrid just you know prevent wear on the engine. Yeah and you can charge here. Yeah you know. I'm gonna fight David for it but I can do that. He weighs less than I do. There's a charger downstairs too. You have two EV chargers. This is the prime ones outside. Prepo John. Yeah. Look at that. See hot rotted hot rotted Jaguar XJs whether they're XJ Sedans S's or fucking C's are extremely cool. Yeah I mean the shape is just so good. Where's the Magnus with his TWR thing. Let's fucking go. Well that looks very I mean these are very smooth and kind of elegant and the new thing is. That's crazy. Aggressive. Yeah. No Harry Harry can we look at Harry. Harry's coop is extremely cool because he is a man of taste. Yeah. Although we disagree on whether a coontosh should have a wing or not but his is just oh it's he sold it. Did he sell that car. I don't know. XJC 12 V12 manual sets a new auction record. When was this from. Last November last year what did it go for. It was bold right there. 157,000 pounds. Well the Harry touch. So it's a V12 with a manual gearbox and he had he had the engine rebuilt and I think hot rod in a little bit. You know. Wow. Because if you could have one of these that was like fully sorted and guaranteed to work. You know that would be. Is that a thing that can be accomplished. Like even when these were new from the dealership. At the time. At I'm handing you the keys. At the time at the time the keys are handed over. Right. Right. At the time the keys are handed over. I guarantee you it worked. Harry does not want to be the kind of guy. Oh so Harry's car. Yes. Sorry I meant like could they ever when these were brand new guarantee that they would work. You know because now it's got all the new wires and new ideas. Oh no they were they were heinous but like but they're so pretty. Yeah no one care. Yeah that helps everything. Yeah. I mean we'll overlook whatever. And like we know we I know I know that it's not that difficult to make to put Corvette engines and things like this and that's that but you can also I think make the V12. I think it is possible to make the V12 work today. If you get it sorted and do what I did with the Bentley and just drive it. I think it I think it's like one of those self lubricating things where shit doesn't dry out if you just use it. Maybe I with these I worry about like the wiring of because you had you know the wiring in the doors or the wiring under the dash like is that going to go out for sure. No the engine might keep going and actually it's true even if you replace the Corvette and replace the engine with a Corvette engine the other shit could still break. Oh man these are that one with the stance and the whatever those are like what that looks that's like the British Hacosca skyline. A bit yeah with that kind of stance and JDM dash of second gen Camaro here too. Like I think it's the stance the wheels. Ain't nothing wrong with that. No it's true. That's delightful. Cool. Now we're in need of one of those. No need. There are more cars. I bet you I bet you you could look the the guy I bet you you could love all the guy downstairs. I bet you he was he put a lot of money in that car and he's ready to get out of it. Okay I could drive for six months and then sell it. I'm just saying let's go to the people unless you have anything to add at this their point. The people they oh thank you. You're welcome. When that's got my glasses adjusted. That's good. That was nice. They were getting a little loosey-oosey. Oh right yeah that's not my prescriptions no. The people at Patreon keep this ship floating down the ocean patreon.com slash the smoking tire podcast is where you go to help a brother out and get this coontosh fixed. I mean Jesus it's crazy how much the brother needs to be helped out right now. 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Given your recent Z experience can you elaborate your thoughts on the brand strategy trying to stage their comeback with products like Xterra, Nismo, Armada and Skyline. Do you think it will work? I think Nissan is in an interesting position right now. They didn't lean too hard into EVs. And it's funny that like the world is moving away from EVs right now at the same time gas is getting like $7 a gallon here in California. But okay I mean I think to me the Nismo Z is an immensely desirable product. I got picked up from the airport in the new Armada. Not bad honestly. Pretty nice looking pretty nice riding vehicle. Did not hate it. 10 out of 10 would take one on a road trip. And I think you know they're making products that lean more towards what people can afford. I mean typically the Nissan is at the more affordable end of any competitive segment. And so if people are tight on money but still want to get a new car I think if their new products are built well and designed well then they could offer a lot of value for money with those products. I'm checking their sales. Their sales were up very slightly from 2024. Like 1.2% in a couple of things. So that's okay they sold about a million cars last year in the United States. Yeah so I don't know. I liked the Armada more than I thought I would by riding in it. You know it was a two hour ride to the airport from Sonoma. Wasn't bad. Wow. Nice seats comfy you know it was good. And better looking than it was in the past. Jim Conner. Oh the Nismo are with the question was the Nismo Armada. That's silly. The Nismo Armada is just silly. Come on that's not what we're talking about. But the Nismo Armada is just like it's a trim package whatever. I mean the S-grade V is also very silly. And if it didn't have the engine that it has it would just be dumb. Jim Conner says is it an enthusiast thing to swap out factory floor mats as a knee jerk upgrade when you get a new car. I nearly did it this week and it occurred to me. There's three sets of floor mats sitting in my garage from old cars all of which I could have used. It's not for me. I like that the Taycan has the all-weather ones the rubber ones. But like no my my my cars have the factory floor mats in them. In fact I mean for a year we committed to using the Bentley fucking sheepskin ones. And they held up better than I thought. I was impressed with the Bentley ones. Even keeping your shoes on. Yeah. I don't know I feel like if you're swapping them out are you swapping them out. Is this person swapping them because they want something more comfortable. Or are you choosing a style that pops more when you open the door. Or are you getting like if you have a black floor mat from factory and you get a slightly upgraded black floor mat then I think that's silly. But I don't know if you have an M car and you get an M format online or something. I did that. Sure. Boozer. I mean my format had a hole in it. So yeah yeah I was like well we'll just do a little upgrade. No I like I I haven't I can't say I've ever cared enough about floor mats to get a brand new car and get rid of the floor mats. I bought used cars before where the floor mats had evidence of some wear and I got rid of them and just replaced them. Right. And and sometimes that's been with like a weather tech or something. Yeah. Shout out to weather tech. They own everything. They do. But they make a nice floor mat. Yeah. So it's old school capitalism. I don't hate I don't hate building a business on making a product that people actually want to buy. There's worse things than that. What if it's a product that we will force people to use but no one's really sure what it's going to do. But it will take away a lot of jobs. What about that product. Oh my god. I just got erect. Thank you for telling me about that. There's a thing I can do that. Where do I sign up. Sign at the bottom of my Kevin O'Leary form right here. Okay cool. And can I make a computer clone of myself. Mm-hmm. Okay. Yeah absolutely. But you won't own the IP of the clone of yourself but I will. But you can make a funny video of a dog driving a car. Cool. Yeah. It'll be completely forgetable. Can I make can I make a pizza? Show up three minutes faster. No. Because that's supposed to be made in a place by a person. Damn. When delivered. But we can make a video of a pizza driving a car. What if I get rid of that. Yeah. What if I get rid of that human. What if I have a robot make the pizza that hands it to another robot that drives the. What if. No. What if the robot makes the pizza on the way to my house. And then another robot meets it at the car. The curb and brings it to the front door so I don't have to go meet it in the street. Yeah. We we will probably have that within six months to 10 years. Definitely. Mm-hmm. If you give us the money today for the stock. Mm-hmm. Promise it will happen soon. And there will be rockets on the pizza delivery vehicle. Listen Elon. A fiskir I hardly knew her. I've only ever had rear wheel drive cars. But I want to experience more. Should I try a good front wheel drive car like a GTI or Civic SI so I can get the gist. Or should I can I get the gist of the experience with a weekend toro rental. Uh that's a good question. If you don't have a need for a front wheel drive car then you should just try one on toro. Rent a GTI somewhere. If you can get a GTI on toro. Oh definitely. For sure right. I don't know. I think if you're rotating through I think it's it's cool to have it for a year and just experience it every day. I bet I bet you'll you'll find like the big meaty things in a weekend. Driving quick or going to a canyon or something. But like I don't know if you really want to experience the different drivetrain setup. Then I think you should live with it for a while. Sure. Okay. If you can if you can find a really nice fiesta ST. I mean a really nice one. You can probably go money and money out even for a year on one of those. And that would be about the best against. Spencer says we're picking or you could go like here's another thing you could do to make it interesting. You could go like super super front wheel drive like you could get or import like a Pujo 205 GTI or some really cool European GTI like vintage you know front wheel drive from the 80s or something. That could be a fun thing to do to make your front wheel drive experience a little more interesting than you know a modern front wheel drive system. Spencer says we're picking up a new BMW 230i and immediately have to drive five hours back home with it. Since you drive unfamiliar press cars all the time what's the mandatory five minute pre-fright plight pre-flight checklist and what specific features or settings do you set up before you put the car in drive. So very good question. I don't always do things I probably should do but I can do some things on the fly. But I don't like like you're buying this car and then you're going home and you're doing immediately not just like driving up the road you're immediately doing a road trip. So like first off I my pride is very silly and when I get new cars I don't always have the salesman show me like every little thing. I'm like I know how to do I'll figure it out which led me to not knowing I could put the car play icon on the on the home screen of the Ticon which was a game changer. Make sure you know how to really use the radio. Make sure your like favorites are preset if it's like serious or whatever your your if it has I don't think that has M modes but if it has an individual drive mode you set that you know mirrors memory seats if you've if you're doing a driver swap memory seats is a good one. I bring my Valentine one make sure that's make sure you know which buttons control the radar cruise control versus regular cruise control like I think getting familiar with that before you get on the road because I don't do that a lot of times and then I'm trying to figure out on the highway. Yeah I mean but when the car is going to be yours it's worth it to take the extra time to go through all the settings. I mean also like if it's brand new like your ADAS settings like if you want lane keep off like do that ship before you leave yeah you know if you want to set I don't know if the 230i has it does that have like hot buttons like is there like a like a universe there I don't know if it has a universal like button the Porsche has two of them and you can make those buttons like 10 or 15 different things so you might want to make that set that hot button to something you're going to use all the time and then you know make sure your phones your car play all that stuff is set up. Good question pretty straightforward but a little more I'm well like I don't set my favorites and press cars like I'm just like I don't have the fucking patience for that but like Hannah sets her favorites it like so Hannah when she goes to work in Colorado for her gigs she has to go there like once a month for a week and she rents a car and it's in Fort Collins which is like 90 minutes to two hours from Denver so she's to fly to Denver get in a car and from the exit of the Denver airport there are no traffic lights or stop signs until for two hours so it's just exit the parking lot and you're going 70 the whole way so she who can't get used to a car necessarily as quick as I do and isn't as as quick to adapt to new radios and things like that I mean it's more how every person would adapt would adapt to she really now has to make sure that everything is set before she like puts the car and drive so she'll set all her favorites on like serious she'll make sure her like her car play is also like everything has to be her mirrors are fully good like because once she's driving anything else like that's got is like there's nowhere to stop for just a second to you know do it so but yeah sometimes I'm in a hurry and I don't set anything and I'm in a new car and that first drive I'm trying to do everything while I'm driving and it's like you get stressful it's a mess yeah yeah it's a mess um how are we on time Zach are you okay we're good we started early so okay very helpful great Johnny Evie Gearberman says uh do you think there would ever be a market for a restomad kuntosh um not not well uh huh I think there's always a market for everything but with a car the more celebrated the car is and the more perfect it's viewed in terms of like especially design in the aesthetic the riskier it is and the easier it is to fall yeah and they're just like hmm it's an interesting question I think people who want a better driving kuntosh just by like a later Diablo or like a mercy or something um maybe there's one lunatic out there that thinks that that needs to be a thing I know there's only there's only 2000 kuntoshes ever built um so to try to make a business out of that would be very hard very expensive you'd have to make your own unibody I think yeah I think that's what you'd probably have to do because to find to find enough people who are willing to chop up their kuntosh yeah to turn it into something and maybe there's a couple crashed or like half burnt ones out there that you could scavenge you like you could do a couple that where you get a win number and you could do something but yeah but I think that it would always have to offer far more than what the original does and you know like Lamborghini doesn't have the racing pedigree that Porsche does like for singer they could go okay we can take the horsepower from this and the handling from this and we can make you give you a car that drives far better and closer to like a race car than the street cars ever did but also looks amazing but for Lamborghini like you know what's your north star there I don't know well and there's an entire industry of people I mean thankfully a lot of them are in southern California they could make singers go fast it's not like fucking Rob Dickinson and Maz like knew how to specifically engineer a suspension or an engine like the engines were built by people who knew how to build engines like you know so and people specifically people who knew how to build Porsche racing engines and so there isn't really a bunch of people that are building like Kuntasch racing engine you know you know that that engine isn't really like a motor sport engine I mean it it's a bunch of power because it's big it's a v12 it's it's not a bad engine by any means but it's not a race so what it hasn't been studied as much as you know it doesn't have all that r&d built into it yeah I think it's okay it's the kind of thing one day what's his name Lamber fucking Gini that oh Nick yeah one day Nick is going to get is going to get enough money to pay Steve Maxwell to build a rest oh my like that's how that's going to be the extent of rest oh my kuntosh is going to be that guy paying that guy to build he'll be the sir Edmund Hillary of that like first summit everist like you need that person to prove the concept and then a bunch of people will copycat anybody could do it that's true but grilled peanut butter and pearl jam that's good for a couple reasons one because grilled PB and J is a classic you don't have that is it good doesn't this is like run off and no no you need to it's a it's a there's a there's a management system you don't you don't spread to the very edge you got it you got to keep it tight you also don't want to use you do need to use a more commercial grade peanut butter you can't use the really natural it can't have peanuts in it no it can but it's other things it can't be the kind where the oil rises to the top and you got to stir it's got to be but I know but like if you want to do this because it's going to be a little messy you can do some stabilizer you need a little bit of you can do that yeah I'm reading there so I actually when I grill my PB and J I actually sometimes I just deal with the mess but I just I my ingredients are more like a pile in the middle that I sort of spread as I press a little bit let me tell you what a delightful thing the best first time commenter though and coming in with a fucking home dinger of a name like that I graduated on saturday with a bachelor of science in marketing business and management congratulations I want to know if you have any advice that you wish to give someone that you wish someone gave you two days after graduation you won't know exactly what you want to do or what you will want to be two days after graduation yeah and that's fine and you can change your the course of your career or life as many times as you want yeah there may be downsides to that but you can do that so yeah you want to you want to consider a big picture if possible if you have a dream definitely follow it sure but if you don't have a dream just try to do something productive that feels right and like be ready for the next cool thing to pop up yeah you know and whatever you do the first the first thing you do you will take lessons from that to the second thing the third thing you may and it may not seem like it at the time but you will yeah um yeah try not to be too stupid that too yeah yeah you're just after college is a really good good time to die doing something stupid yeah you're you're still real dumb but now you have your full autonomy and no class structure and you might have like a little more spending money so yeah risky time uh Murray long last name says uh my baby cousin just graduate i knew it's graduation weekend this whole weekend you see around here not again taking nuts this weekend uh baby cousin just graduated high school his first car with his part timer money and dad is matching it that's exactly where i was i respect it uh it must have airbags and no convertibles also respected uh i'm taking him to look at a 2009 civic si and a 2001 prelude type s h he has six thousand bucks to spend what else should he look at in that price range those are cool choices those are cool and i'd like to know how nice the oh one prelude is grand like i would be worried that that because that's sweet yeah oh one prelude fucking awesome car actually talk about your talk about your proper front wheel drive performance for reference on cars and bids the most recent one there was bid to 10 grand and did not sell that was a year ago um 01 s h manual and this had 106,000 miles on it so maybe he found one that's got more miles or i don't know she found a deal but that's a cool car that is a cool car i i i both of those are nice cars oh oh nine si totally fine isn't that the one with the split gauges though isn't that the one where the where your the speedometer is like way down here in south america and your tack is right here in front of you is that the 09 dashboard uh what do they what do they look like i think i think that's 09 either way like those are great first cars yeah that's that one yeah yeah yeah good first car um very fun feels fast but isn't which is a good thing for a young person stick shift good handling yeah i support this i support both of these decisions i'm i'm partial to that if that prelude is is like not a shitter yeah you see the speed up where your tack is right in front of you but the speedometer is like way down on this phenomenon the dash it's way down by the windshield yeah which is actually like better you know in your line of vision but um i mean i'd go prelude for sure if the prelude is not a shitter i would go prelude just because it's super cool i wanted that's the car i couldn't get in high school that's why i want i got my first Subaru oh wow i got yeah i got this i got i didn't the Subaru was fine i was a good car but i really wanted either it was this was a i wanted the civic si or the prelude type sh and it was a year waiting list to get both of them and so i was like well i need a car now and got a Subaru um i mean anything else in that price my boy you know my you know who fucking who got the end up getting the prelude is my boy adam mm-hmm uh adam em adam em got the prelude and i that's and i this is how i learned that you actually can't kill a prelude because he him adam em got a prelude and matt h got an accord coop four cylinder manual right and uh also marty the shaman had a coup a cord coop four cylinder manual and and these are or at least were the three least responsible drivers the three least mechanically sympathetic mechanical uh humans i've i've ever met marty not anymore but like if these three cars didn't die they can't yeah then they can't die that's it like you can't believe how badly these this set of three 1999 Hondas were treated and fucking survived it's unheard of yeah just red line from cold start so matt h's brother mark h got the same Honda when they were both uh both 16 they made the same car they was the first year was in mark turn 16 he's my age second year is when his little brother uh got one matt abusive fucking just just just the alcoholic stepfather of Honda Accord ownership just just all the clutch drops as many as you can imagine and the car made it that's six years actually his brother got an automatic and that was not interested in sports cars or being a shithead behind the wheel at all he drove the car until he was at least 40 24 years 24 years lasted four times in the car he got in high school he kept until he had like two kids that's so funny yeah yeah so i read all companies don't rent manuals anymore expectant widowmaker says um i use sheepskin rugs in bright red as floor mats in my dune buggy and they're perfect that fucking rolls i uh i have sheepskin mats for my manks and i will be swapping them in as soon as we that's the thing with floor mats i got two sets and then i put one in and then i kind of got lazy and didn't swap them in i got to swap them in well sandal weather now so you can make sense it's about to be flip-flop weather uh would you consider using a swatch royal pop as a dash clock you know actually that's not a bad idea for a royal pop if you it could be kind of fun to like turn a pair of these things into like one of these into like a dash a set of dash clocks they don't have a chronograph um i'm not as like these things are really funny that'd be fun are these expensive basically what these get stolen from your dune buggy probably probably probably they're not expensive they're like a couple hundred dollars but they'd probably but they're trendy so they would get swiped yeah yeah um i found the cooler your car is the more likely people are to not fuck with it when it's parked down on the street yeah because they go oh i like that yeah that's not much of that thing duffel shuffle retirement club says uh will the nismo z fill the void left by the arth 35 gtr for nissan enthusiasts who refuse to buy a sports or performance car for anyone else that's a funny question because i it's never occurred to me that that is a person somebody refuses to buy anything for people Chevy people nissan people that's crazy yeah i have an article idea for road and track that's like it's basically just starts like don't stan automakers like they will let you down like don't be a fan of anybody of course um i i i don't think people who want an r35 gtr will be happy with an ismo z yeah having said that you know we have some friends here in la that are genuine like nissan fans that uh that are are into the z but speaking of which sidebar did you have to see on his instagram that after he saw my little instagram video with shant about the mercedes joey lorence the actor brought his nissan z over there and is like doing like a body kit and a bunch of stuff whoa shant is doing for him wow yeah on a z yeah whoa interesting on a z he's in he's really into his z yeah he just got one not like but isn't there i'm surprised he didn't go to like what's the z wizard in la that larry chen took his car too oh yeah basically there's someone who specializes in z's um but i don't know he just likes like shant's vibe yeah cool uh i blow horns says what would be your favorite big engine based on smaller engines think v12 made out of two rb 26 is or similar i have two answers i think i think a k v8 would be fun put two k uh honda four cylinders together make a small v8 could be rad the fun answer is someone do that no no probably was it what's i guess it's two honda is it too honda motorcycle engines that that make a v8 maybe okay go on but the other one is just let's let's bolt two ls's against each other and make a v16 which i think somebody did that yeah somebody did that i think that would be awesome yeah i would like to see two bmw k 1600 motorcycle engines put together at the crank to make a 3.2 liter v12 very cool that might sound really bad that would rip yeah we put that in the little n600 you drove there we go yummy uh lincoln park plug-in hybrid so good that is like a great name uh shopping for a sporty but comfy four seat convertible for my dad his pick was a 996 but uh the 2000s clk 55 amg has caused attention with clean examples of both going for 25 to 30 k and 10 to 15 k respectively is the 996 really a 15 k better car and experience okay well it depends what you want um if you want a real sports car like you say relatively sporty and comfortable force uh comfortable four seater is someone going in the back if someone's going the back 996 might be tough i'd rather put someone in the back of a clk than a 996 are you cruising around florida you know are you at the villages or are you uh in the mountains in the canyons if you're there's curves and things then yes the 996 the manual is better if you're just cruising the highways and byways of v8 mercedes might be nice um it's going to have a slush box it's gonna the you know classic like we say there's a lot but like old depreciated v8 luxury cars with automatics are like really cool and theory and on paper but are often just kind of boring to drive because there's slush boxy yeah so you may or may not find that interesting um if you really want a sports car clk is not going to do it just it's going to be loud and heavy and kind of quick but yeah man an old roommate had us remembered he had one of these and it broke all the time uh gluteus nissan maximus i think also nissan maximus desmaris merides would be pretty funny uh why do you think ford hasn't released a hybrid bronco uh do you think there's demand for it so i left this in someone else you know she rub on my bub until the tip was whistling also great name replied with some good stats ford sold uh about 800 000 f series trucks in 2025 only 10 of those were the hybrid so bronc they sold 146 000 broncos are they going to develop a whole hybrid just to sell 14 000 a year optimistically probably not yeah it's a good i left that in great point i think it is and i i think the hybrid pitch on the f150 is at least 50 percent about the kind of tools you can power off of the truck the job site stuff the job site stuff which the bronco i mean outs i mean yeah okay maybe there's a camping angle you could take but i i don't think bronco people are looking for hybrids the same way i don't think jeep people were looking for hybrids with the wrangler either i think that got forced on them yeah and the camping thing nowadays there's so many companies like jackery or whomever that make a battery pack meant for camping yeah you put it in the back and you can take it out and move it around the campsite like that adds all the convenience and without any of the complexity the fort has to deal with mm-hmm uh... gavin sullivan thoughts on the amg e 53 uh i i haven't driven it yet but that 53 engine that inline six is really nice i drove a i drove a car to not expect to like which is the uh... c 53 convertible fucking sweet this fucking really nice beautiful car uh... really enjoyed it that inline six kicks ass uh... rockin g rc car wait rockin g rc carola rockin g rc carola rockin rola g rc carola got it uh... as a g rc owner i can assure you that you're correct about its nerdiness uh what other cars scream nerds nerds nerds skylines are nerdy cars i'm sorry to people who like skylines but they are a little bit it's a story is so very nerdy extremely if you drive a chevy vega you're fucking nerdy was a um pulsar pulsar gti like uh... most hand drive if you have a japanese car that i said skylines but actually uh... strip that that's a dude magnet if you if you're a gay man who wants to pick up straight dudes if that's your kink you need a skyline if you drive any other japanese car that isn't a skyline that's nerdy like like i'd like a somebody a hatchback or something like jzx's yeah they're big in the drift community but outside of that it's you have to explain why you bought what looks like a camry but has the string for sure k cars are pretty nerdy um if you have a uh... british sports car from the sixties it's fairly nerdy joe 205 in the united states is very nerdy any french car in the united states is extremely nerdy yeah except a bugatti well yeah but that's carbon monocoque and ball torture says been thinking about a bands that oh music bands um uh that fit cars well portion i'm eleven is rush uh corvette is van halen dodge charger is panther oh we need the explanation portion eleven is rush technically good huge niche fan base started in the sixties very nerdy corvette is van halen no explanation needed dodge charger is panther a powerful and racist what is the most nickel back car dude chad kroger owns the most nickel back car type in the words chad kroger car collection the image chad kroger has a very dorky car collection that is so canadian um and just see what images come up in the if the photos come up that i know about he had a pretty dorky car collection he had like uh like uh like yeah whatever this like fuck van is the but the duly conversion which i love actually uh a six by six dodge street fan yeah uh i don't know what this hunday elantra fourth gen elantra that says daily commute around the city yeah uh boss 429 mustang he had a prowler at one point there was for he was for sure featured with his prowler um but uh he had a deal that he had a diablo on like ugly rims which i think is kind of dorky if you ask me so yeah yeah see that's no way no right that's not great oh well this is the car with the regular rims which look great yeah phone dials but up here whoa that's not yeah it's not great it's so anyway he had some dorky cars so um nickel backs car collection just could be i mean nickel backs actual cars it could be it could be i mean not to say to you like camry like nickel back was so popular yet seen as lame like there's nothing tough about it about that music it's like not respected but it's 2010 everywhere it's the vc the v6 camaro v6 one le yeah v6 camaro v6 one le yeah uh two renault's one cup chassis nice how do you manage is that the is there is that that's no there's a lot how do you manage no no i just uh no no it's fine oh how did you i didn't know if that question had further clarifications how do you manage professional disappointments uh hmm i feel like it's gotten easier with time and i don't know if you who told me to do this someone in the last couple years is just like if you don't get too excited about the professional opportunity when it goes away and not to like diminish your joy but just because in media things can come and go so quickly a media brand that can hire you can suddenly dissolve they'll choose someone else for a thing last second or whatever and you just sometimes there's going to be a lot of wins sometimes there's going to be a lot of losses and you just kind of take each one and stride and always move to the next thing and it just prevents kind of protect yourself a little bit yeah i think i want to say it was like al Pacino or De Niro or someone it was like some that when you're talking about that it's like i think i remember seeing it in some like actors round table thing where it's like tom hanks and De Niro and whoever talking about and they and he said like you know when you're on a roll like don't get you know don't get don't get too excited you know and you know prepare because the it'll swing the other way and then don't get to you know sort of law of averages kind of kind of thing um you know hedge your happiness when it's going really well and and know to hedge your sadness when it's not and um for me i'm able to i'm not able to manage any professional disappointment that i can get a good lesson out of i'm happy to lose some money or have to say i'm sorry to a customer or have to fix something that's broken or talk to an employee if there's or or or or not get a gig for a reason that might be totally valid you know and and be able to go all right well what is the fucking lesson because the only thing i'm learned i'm like trained to do i went to the best business school in the country i studied art so what am i trained to do hang the pictures in my office that's about it everything else i've learned by figuring out failing and hopefully fucking not doing it twice or three times so like when shit happens like you know my dad was like you know getting an MBA is like 250 grand so if you like run a business that works and you fuck up less than 250 grand consider yourself ahead you know what i mean like you can learn that shit in the classroom or you can learn it by ping-ponging against failures for 30 years like so i've chosen that way and uh you know if it's something that's like not my fault i'm trying or like my thing that should have been foreseen then i try to like just go okay well can i do anything to fix it yes or no but if it's like not if it is my fault it's something that i then i just you know you apologize and try to have a lesson out of it and move on i guess you know yeah let's do this one we done fuck okay it's like a fuck mary kill but of like situations uh oh choose one a never pay for gas again b never be stuck behind a slow car in the left lane again and see immunity from ever getting a traffic ticket that's interesting no traffic tickets uh so do we have to be ourselves in this game are we projecting us onto a hypothetical person that like doesn't effectively have like an on-call lawyer for traffic tickets and oh by the way a hundred percent of our fuel is tax-annuctable so we're really not paying for gas either i mean that's true but with gas going up our the cost of our the cost to operate our business it is going up it is it is um i would i would obviously i would never i would never pay for gas again i i think i would do that because that for most for most people would still be cheaper than having off the record but considering i walk to work a lot i don't i actually my gas costs are pretty low right now so if this was like the next year i would go immunity and just within you have the purge 2026 i would accept i'm too responsible nowadays like i i want to drive fast on the 405 middle of the daytime like so what am i i don't think yeah do you drive i don't think that either you or i drive fast on public roads or or or excuse me i don't think you or i the i don't think the fear of getting a ticket is what prevents us from going faster than we go on public roads i think that's true we are not afraid of getting a ticket we don't go quicker because we think it's it's morally reprehensible to go quicker than we would go on a road yeah and it's also like after spending years with a v1 you know trying to shave three minutes on a commute or something now i just i've done all the math and it's just not worth it a lot of time is not so i think i would go i'll go back never pay for gas again because then i would just feel total freedom to like drive wherever i want anytime of the week or month and just who cares there's i'll do that yeah because the left lane thing you just pass on the right that's what you do in america now the right lane is the left lane yes it is in it's inverted it is inverted uh... thanks everybody thank you to our patrons uh... i appreciate you very very much uh hopefully that notice canyon watches uh... is gone uh... but if not go check it out on their website it's notice watches dot com if there any left it will be listed for sale there uh thank you to everyone who supported us through the canyon project and i the the next watch uh i'm not going to reveal a very fun detail about it but i'm i've i got a very excited text this morning from the guys that notice about a fun detail about this watch that is a major milestone that i didn't know if they could achieve but they we've achieved the rockets to help acceleration theory achieved it 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