Episode 616: Three Stages Of Hell

Like the midnight and the rock and roll, he's in a fight for wrestling soul using racket and some mind control, like he's Jim Cogniz. The keys to the future held by the past and with tag team partner, Brian Last. He sends this message out by podcast, he's Jim Cogniz. Well he's never fake a phony, he never backs down from the fight, he never wins the pony cause his mama raised him right. It's time to prepare your mind. Get the experience, get the experience, get the experience of Jim Cogniz. Hello again everybody and welcome to another exciting episode of the Jim Cornhead Experience where today we're going to talk about the best wrestlers in their 30s, 40 years ago and the rotten wrestlers of every age today. All about it more but joining me, Hawaiian Brian, the podcasting lion, the king of the Arcadian Vanguard Podcast Network, Mr. Co-host to you. He's 39 years old and he's sticking to it. Be great Brian Last everybody. Aloha Jim, a pleasure to be here once again, 39. You know I actually just the other day got a copy of the biography of Jack Benny written by his daughter I believe. Was she born when he was 39 years old? I think everything happened when he was 39, yes. There's a part of the audience that gets the reference and there's another part that has no idea what we're talking about at all. Now some people are like Jack Benny, who's the best Jack Benny line ever? And it took him 30 years to set it up because of his gimmick being a miser, being cheap, being very careful with his money. Finally he comes out on stage and a robber comes up behind him with a gun and sticks it in his back and he says, your money or your life. And Benny just gives the look to the camera and the people start laughing and he just looks at it for 30 seconds and the robber says, I said your money or your life. I'm thinking, I'm thinking. See I don't have Jack Benny's delivery. He can just do a look too and get that big reaction. We need more of that. We always try to have fun here at the top of the program and we're going to have fun today, I promise you, because we're going to talk about some silly people doing silly things, but we're not going to be silly at the start because I've been pissed off for two days and I might as well get it off my goddamn chest. And at least I'm not alone this time because there's a lot of people that are pissed off and we've heard from a lot of them and it's all over the news and all over the television and all over everybody's thoughts. And so we might as well address it because if anybody don't want to hear me talking politics or current events today, you know what below me because we need to talk about this shit because it's gotten serious enough that everybody needs to be talking about it because you can't just turn your head and act like in this country, this is normal and acceptable and justifiable. And if people don't get mad and start saying things about it and go out and vote when the proper time comes and call attention to this shit, then we're going to be the shit whole country that Donald Trump said we were and wants us to be and is actively trying to cause that. So I think we got to recognize it and I know again, what's the rule of a babyface promo, Brian? The babyface should always say what the fans want to say about that no good dirty heel and don't have the goddamn platform. And they speak vicariously through their babyface hero. Well, if if you ain't on my side on this with a day folks that I guess fuck you then. So I'm speaking for a lot of people who are goddamn fit up with what we're having to put up with in this country because of the unfortunate situation that we've been put in because of gullible people believing bullshit. So now it's come to mass armed federal agents are murdering United States citizens on the street in public in broad daylight on video by shooting them in the face. And then their representatives or their superiors such as that soulless, gull, bitch, Christy gnome and the head pig and charge himself. Come out and call the woman the mother of the orphan child now. She's got three kids, but the one she's got with her last husband who died is now officially an orphan. Call her a domestic terrorist. To slander her on the way out. And I again. I know there's people around the world that listen to this show that live in. Normal societies where facts are kind of accepted as fucking facts. And they don't understand what the fuck is going on with us over here. These Americans. Along with a lot of our former allies around the world and their governments. What the fuck's going on with those Americans? And we've been talking about the ice patrol and assuming that everybody around the globe knows what's going on over here. So I don't want to leave because I think Brian, I know 20% of the Cornets collectibles customer, maybe 25 are from international markets. I think it's a higher or at least similar percentage for the podcast. That are in UK or Japan for fuck's sake, or all around the globe. Remember the guy from the Isle of Malta, Australia. So what what we have here is. The previous big lie. The one that everybody talks about Donald Trump's big lie. That's what the journalists and the authors of the books about it and everybody have come to start calling it when he wouldn't admit. That he lost the 2020 election and he was slapped down in every court of law. Not only didn't have proof, never even have any evidence, just all of his lawyers were disbarred. But in the process, he made such noise and such stank that the rubes that buy his bullshit believed him and still to this day, many of them do, despite everything. And they call that the big lie. But I think when they write to history books, that's not going to be the big one. The biggest lie, the one that's going to get more people killed and more people injured and more fucking property destroyed and more shit go on needlessly and unnecessarily. Is the bullshit story that he has told these lunatics about the immigrants? And just before we preface just before we talk about this specific incident, we have to tell the people who again, who don't live in bizarro world, how we got here for just a second. And I swear to God, I'm not made. Brian, if I say anything that you haven't seen on the news, if I exaggerate anything, I want you to stop me. Donald Trump and his minions and henchmen and mouthpieces and mouth organs have told people in this country for a long time now that the Biden administration not only knew but allowed all the countries that Donald Trump and the maggots are mad at from Mexico all the way down through South America and just every place that they look like that. He has said that they let not millions but tens of millions. One time I heard him say 25 million undocumented aliens into this country that they emptied the prisons and the insane asylums and the fucking they sent us lunatics and rapists and murderers and clean their country and sent them all up here and the Democrats just said, okay, well, they're good. They'll vote for us. Is that that's basically in a nutshell the story you have heard told? Is it not? That is certainly what they've been saying. Yes. And they believe this. I'm not saying that a murderer or a rapist or a lunatic didn't get through because Lord knows we had enough homegrown to begin with. They're everywhere. But these people believe that that's what all they all are. They all that came from the gangs and the murderers and the rapists and they ate the dogs and the cats. That was strategic. I think now on their part to come up with that eating the dogs and cat story where the immigrants were eating the pets in Ohio because it made it so ridiculous to normal people that they scoffed at the they thought he jumped the shark and it's all bullshit now. He's going to believe this. His suckers still believed it. He'll believe anything. So now you've got a large group of gullible people in this country who believe that all the immigrants or people who look like immigrants who have come to this country were from an insane asylum or a prison or a member of a goddamn violent gang. And then this is where the ice comes in because these people are so scared that the boy would be a reason to be scared if any of that shit was true. But they're so scared that they want him to hire these fat obnoxious. I saw the other day the perfect description on Twitter. An ice agent is somebody too stupid to become a prison guard. These untrained assholes who want to compensate for their tiny dicks by fondling their large guns who want to push people around because they've got a grudge against society and they can put masks on and cosplay as soldiers. And the only problem is the difference between them and real soldiers is the people the soldiers are fighting are fighting back. They just get these ice fucks. Get to go out in the street and just push people around the videos be going on for months. They're dragging pregnant women down the sidewalk. They're breaking people's windshields and windows and pulling them out of cars that are citizens and kneeling on grandmothers. And they shot the priest in the head with a fucking pepper gas ball. And it's just it's insane. You know what kind of element you're getting to apply for this job and they're giving out big signing bonuses. And then. Now that he has manufactured a goddamn hatred for an entire not even race of just a large swath of people and fear of them. And then he fucking satisfies these goddamn red necks is gun fetish by having this fat meal team six ready to stand by and go push people around. And then. The best part of it all. He announces that he's going to send these people to all the cities that are run under Democratic administrations where the mayor is a Democrat or the governor is a Democrat or somebody who has opposed him. And he tells people Portland's on fire. He's who people tweeting pictures from like a fucking street music festival in Portland with flowers going as burning man. He sends them where they are not needed because he says crime is out of control and all officials in the local municipalities are said no crimes down we don't we don't need this you're going to aggravate people. And then he sends them in and wants to create problems to distract from his constant allegations of pedophilia being leveled against him as well as the war crimes have taken over. Fuckin random countries for their oil without congressional approval shit like that. He wants the riots and the people in the chaos to distract from that and also to get even with the goddamn people are trying to stop him. So it it's worked to varying degrees in different places they've been in Charlotte they were Los Angeles they're they're still in Portland. Which we can't even get into this but they just shot two more people in Portland but we don't even know he details yet we'll stick on the one that happened yesterday. So apparently in Minneapolis they're in this neighborhood. And I'm not talking about the neighborhood. It's a fucking neighborhood. There are houses and front yards and it's a nice wide street and blah blah blah. And there's a. SUV or some type of smaller SUV vehicle. Or you see on the video parked in the not parked but pulled sideways in the street stopped. We don't know conflicting stories on whether this woman was trying to warn her neighbors or is just caught in the middle of the traffic because she had just apparently dropped her kid off to school. But if she was trying to block someone off or warn someone she's sitting there in a vehicle not moving unarmed. All of a sudden here comes the meal team and they surround her vehicle one of them is pulling on her door share window is open driver window. Pulling on her door like she they're going to open the door and fucking jerk her out of there she sees other people. Mast getting her screaming get out of the fucking car. She backs up and she's going and I've been in this position by the way with a variety of people pulling on the door and etc. And you don't see everybody around you. You back up and you pull out. And when she backed up like a couple of feet and pulled out to get away from this guy. Another guy was in front of the car as he gets around in front of it. He just pulls his gun and shoots her in the fucking head. I don't know how many times he hit her but he shot her three times or shot three times. And of course it kills her pretty instantly. But the car that is still going and goes like 40 or 50 more feet and crashes into two other cars and a telephone pole. And people are screaming one woman is screaming you just fucking killed my neighbor. And there's a doctor screen cannot check a pulse know and they're coordinating people off from going to the fucking car. He's like I'm a physician cannot know get away we got our own medics there were no medics people screaming where the fucking medics where we got him back at headquarters. Soon as we find that woman's head will take it over there and let him check it. So then again. Apparently there's other footage I've seen of them carrying this woman they blurred the body. But they wouldn't let the ambulance people treat her right there because the people were still crowded around like what the fuck you just killed this woman it lives over here across the street or whatever the fuck. And they made the ambulance people carry this woman down the sidewalk and around the corner and then you see him work again the chest compressions and shit like where they can't see it. And the without missing a beat. Within 30 minutes not only has that douchebag and shut the ice Barbie. Got known there said this woman was disorderly and dangerous and tried to run over one of the agents with his with her car and he used his training and acted in self defense. She's a domestic terrorist. But pig shit actually said that the woman ran over the agent. He's got out of the hospital but he's lucky to be alive. He never went down he never went to a knee. There is a and here's another thing you know they always said you can't sue City Hall but I hope to God that all of my tax dollars and all of everybody else is for the next 20 years goes to paying the families that this motherfucker has tortured when they file lawsuits during his overall time in office. But people can see this video. These people have come and swarmed her and try to pull her out of the fucking car and she's trying to get the fuck out of there. And even the chief of police a little came out and said well it violates a lot of law enforcement protocols especially don't get yourself in front of the fucking car. But nevertheless so. She's dead. And as I said apparently she's got a six year old child that was with her ex husband that died a couple of years ago so that now the grandparents are having to come to get this kid. They've had memorials they've had protests they've. And by the way before that they could even protest this enough to where that the ICE agents started pepper spray and these protesters. After they murdered this woman they went across town and tear gas to goddamn high school kids. Did you see that video Brian. I saw the video and then I saw the video of Governor Jesse Ventura visiting that school because it turns out that was his former high school. Yes and I thought it was Robbins Dale but it's Robin's son Robbins Dale is where Ganya and Brunzel and those guys went a lot of the Kurt Henning. But it was Rose Jesse was Roosevelt I'm sorry Rose this was Roosevelt I knew as one of those presidents or you remember President Robinson. Anyway yeah Jesse had to show up to I just want to support these people because they they not only tear gas. The parking lot and the students and what you see one of the fucking kids through a snowball. At one of the ICE agents and he responded with the pepper ball gun and shot tried to shoot the kid right in the fucking face with it. But they also arrested two members of the faculty that were trying to help the kids. And that was before they even had a chance to organize the protest over the murder of the previous morning. I don't know if you know the answer this what were they doing there was it and were all of those ICE agents there to apprehend a student. What was the reason they were there. Apparently some of the ICE agents were there. Apparently some of the and so you can't trust this. Some of the right wing aficionados are trying to say well they they were chasing a criminal and ended up at the high school. What the fuck does what again. Why does that mean that because there's all the kids the video all the kids and the teachers and there's a woman screaming get back I don't want you to get hurt to the whoever shooting with the fucking kids. And they're not just the camera phone as all the kids are and they're firing off fucking tear gas. And all the fucking kids is the is the one are they chasing Noriega. Or is maybe maybe let the one fucking undocumented drywall guy go instead of tear gassing the high school. You think wonder they have a lawsuit. Everybody that's the problem. And again for our out of out of country fans. The fucking vans that creepy goddamn Muppet weirdo has already well I says complete immunity of the you know execution of their duties execution of the people more like. And they won't let the authorities in Minnesota cooperate or be involved in the investigation. The FBI is going to investigate ice which means we are going to investigate and see if we did anything wrong and then we will tell you. And here's something else I know I'm older than you Brian but you study history. If you've ever heard anything like this. The mayor of Minneapolis got on television. And said I have a message to the people of ice and Christie know him get the fuck out of Minneapolis. It's the mayor. Telling the federal government get the fuck out of here. And then Tim Walls the governor who was Kamala Harris is running mate so old dipshit Donny really hates Tim Walls. He had to come out on the on television again and say OK. I understand if you wanted to get at me you got me. You have gotten me sir. And now I beg you please leave the citizens of Minnesota alone. And still. The fucking dipshit morons with their heads in the sand or stuck up their ass or stuck in between this guy's dick and balls or wherever they're stuck. Well but it's the Democrats. He's a Democrat. That's why they're saying it's a different common sense. It's fucking people locally trying to run a city that there was no problem until the Gestapo landed. And now there's big problems and there's there was a protest here at Louisville last night with hundreds of people downtown over God damn what happened in Minneapolis to a thousand twelve hundred miles away. Because everybody's pissed. And again if you can't even stop in crime. There was no crime. More than normal crime which is everywhere until you brought it. That's what that's again what all the city officials everywhere they've gone are saying. Either our crime was down or there was no problem or we didn't have a gang issue or whatever. Until this started. Until this started. But he knew that there weren't twenty five million rapists and murderers and criminals and gang members. So they're trying to find them. They're trying to find anybody. They're trying to find the guy that's been here for 15 years. That does landscaping and hadn't done anything to anybody. They detained. Oh my God. I can't remember whether the kid was a male or female boy or girl I should say. But this woman and her kid they're Native Americans Indians. They and it's a the reason why a lot of Indian gimmicks and wrestling were Mexican and Hispanic wrestlers because they do have some similar looks and they could get by with it. They fucking tackle them and detain them. Not only were they US citizens they were here first. We stole a goddamn country from them and killed 90 percent of them 250 years ago. Now they want to round the rest of them up and deport them when they were here first. You fucking morons. He's doing this because he asked to find somebody to deport to make the fucking rubes in Wyoming happy. But meanwhile all this shit is not going well. And these people are the ICE agents are untrained. They're undisciplined. They're unregulated. And if they wanted to stop crime. You know Brian when he fomented the insurrection against the United States government of which he was about to no longer be a part of. They arrested and tried and convicted and sent to prison over a thousand of the most violent and the worst perpetrators. And along with what they did there plus what they found when they caught some of these son of a bitches. Why they one guy was sentenced like 15 years or whatever in prison. Trump pardoned him. He let like 1200 violent homegrown criminals back out on the streets out of prison who have already been started being picked up again for like weapons violations offenses against children and shit like that. He let them out and he wants to kick out the guy that's doing the drywall. And I got news for all of you other maggots son of a bitches while I'm thinking about it. They know the immigrants they took their jobs and they took your health care and they get to but they don't vote and they don't get the health care and they did. If they took your job. Let me tell you something one particular son of a bitch this may hit a nerve on out there. I don't know if you are in such a fucking situation that a guy from Guatemala that wants to do drywall work has negatively impacted your life or living conditions. Just admit you're a fucking loser. You just fucked up. You're just a goddamn worthless fucking twine. But it's always got to be somebody else's fault. There's got to be a grievance. And the orange lunatic. It's always somebody else's fault instead of his and he's got a grievance against all the other people will fuck you and fuck them. And now at any rate this woman is dead as we mentioned and they're putting up memorial by the way they have a go fund me. And I'm I'm thinking about contributing to actually I'm thinking about having Stacy do it for me because I don't know how to do it myself but it's raised this morning which was like 24 hours later like over a million dollars. Five four this woman's family actually children she's got three of them to from a previous marriage that are teenagers apparently but I guess they probably still didn't take the news real kindly. But who knows how many go fund me's we're gonna have start because as we mentioned they shot two more people in port in Portland. They said they were chasing a dangerous Venezuelan gang member. And they shot both people in the car and the car took off and then later on they caught up because they're a man and a woman with gunshot wounds. And the last I heard on the news course by the time people hear this will be a few days later but they couldn't independently a K.A. they couldn't besides what the federal government said. Confirmed that any of these people were involved in gang activity does does the head of MS 13 say hey honey. I'll get back to my gang in a minute but can we run down to Target and get some sweatshirts and puts his wife in the car or whatever I don't know. But they can say anything even when there's video they'll they'll they can say it and some ill informed and or a grieved section of this country will believe the drivel. So all I'm gonna say is one more thing because I said at one point a long time ago on this show decent people will not tolerate Donald Trump for long. I didn't know how long with this may be the fucking point. Again we've been saying we said it about Rob Reiner. We say well what is going to be the tipping point but when you start if somebody was coming down the street to kidnap my neighbor Richie. I would call him on the fucking phone or with now that they've got community groups where they're wearing whistles so if ice comes in they can start blowing whistles to alert their friends and neighbors. I would do the same thing. These fucking assholes are coming into my neighborhood and kidnapping my neighbors out from under me. What the fuck. What the fuck. But at some point they when they keep shooting and or abusing. The citizens it's human nature I'm surprised already that the protesters have signs instead of bats and pitchforks or whatever. But the sooner or later they're going to shoot the wrong guy's grandmother or throw the wrong guy's wife down the stairs or whatever. And this is America everybody's got guns all the guns in the world all the guns at last and somebody's going to go get even and then then you've got meal team six can't hit the broad side of a barn with a fucking pickaxe. You're firing indiscriminately on the streets. What it's going to be a goddamn shit show. What is the matter with these people and what is the matter with this motherfucker at the top. That is so morally bankrupt and so self absorbed in his smell of his own shit and trying to keep his goddamn worthless ass out of prison until he dies of a miserable old age. That he would allow this to go he don't care about anybody and it's been demonstrated time after time after time. So for those of you around the world if you got plans to vacation America I'd say change them and I hear a lot of people are. And now there's a thing trending about cancel your fucking tickets to the World Cup or whatever. Because he has accomplished his mission. The entire world hates us and nobody wants to come here. They just booed our national anthem in Australia for Christ's sake. We do have the Australian national economy just on outback steak houses don't we. But they still hate us. I don't think that's how that works but. Well good day to you mate. Throw another citizen on the Barbie. You know one thing I'll say real quick because this seems a little different than previous endless scandals. But there's been a few things recently one after another after another after another and it does appear like a lot of the long time loyalists are a lot of the people that really jumped on the bandwagon heavily in the last election that really got behind him for whatever reason. They're starting to have problems whether it's the Epstein files which he tried to completely dismiss and then there's still haven't released. I think I said one percent has been released of the Epstein files his fifth Avenue best friend. Whether it was the Rob Reiner tweet which we saw unite people on every side of the political spectrum. Everyone agreed that it was a hideous tweet. Whether it's going after the Venezuelan oil bypassing Congress again you bypassing Republicans and Democrats bypassing everyone. Whether it's now ice in the streets causing trouble at times sometimes it doesn't appear like there's any sort of. It doesn't like they're hunting for someone or looking for someone who just standing around waiting for the problem. But all of these things together you're seeing people like Marjorie Marjorie Marjorie Taylor Green who was a Maga nut who was all in on all that stuff. They turned on her he turned on her because she wanted the Epstein files released. There's something going on or something there's a speedboat going by me I don't know what's happening and maybe the government. The point is you're closer to Washington than I am. Nice knowing you. The point is that you're starting to see people who have been willing to turn a blind eye. Not everyone. And you know there's some people who still get in line when they hear the company line from Kristi Noem or J.D. Vance who's just a fucking shape shifter. He'll say anything at any time. But they just get in line and all of a sudden it's she's a domestic terrorist or this is the thing and this is the thing. But I think you're starting to see at least for Trump you're starting to see some people kind of giving up on the dream I guess. Well but the problem is there's still it's it's always been a minority of the overall people. And usually it's a minority of the voting block but because of the electoral college blah blah blah. But even if his support was 40 to 45 percent of the population which is still my God what an indictment of our country. If he loses the people that kind of slowly see through it the base the people who are never going to see. Or never going to know never going to learn never going to want to know. It's still when you think of it's 15 or 20 percent that will never shake it. That's millions of people. And it yes he is 80 years old and thankfully just by the laws of time chronology and fucking cholesterol will die soon. Thankfully. But the stench and the stain of him and his ism the Trump ism and the maggot ism. It'll be 50 years before this country is clean of what he is as somebody again phrase so eloquently he poisoned the well of American social discourse for generations by validating the worst of us. And piling all of the fringe elements up to where they became the most of us. And it is an indictment of not just the lack of education but the hatefulness and the fucking stupidity. Of large numbers of people created this phenomenon that it will take generations. To fucking live down and to correct even when when or if Sane heads prevail years to correct the judges and the the moles in various places he put January 6 pardon ease in the Justice Department. He may he's got the criminals in charge of catching the criminals. This has been happy talk. It sure has. All right Brian let's move in a different direction here shall we let's let's back up and turn right and get back to the wrestling. Now we can talk about the silly stuff and the silly people saying silly things and we just did a show a couple of days ago your program the drive through. And here we talked about. William Regals. I hesitate to even call it a tweet he tweeted it out but it was a full and well crafted statement about his experiences with neck injuries and his. Recommendations and or advice for the younger generation that is increasingly making a habit out of landing on their heads. And we also talked about that just every. A. E. W. Fnatic on Twitter both of them with the seven million different accounts each jumped all over poor way he never mentioned any specific company or a specific people he would just say all of the young wrestlers but it since it was they struck a nerve as Dennis Connery would say. Because it came right after Moxley tried to kill poor old cow fell fell felt your fletcher whichever I'm now confused which one it is. Oh Kyle. Trying to kill him with that wingy dingy off the top rope and just planted him on his head it's a miracle of mother nature that he didn't just capacitate himself. And so everybody struck a nerve but. Now the head sicko apparently from what I've heard and I don't know what he said I haven't seen or heard the comments. But I understand that Tony con the H. S. I. C. head sicko in charge. Has got official comments about William Regal's tweet did he as a leader should try to calm the situation and settle the people down from attacking the man for expressing a valid viewpoint what how did Tony handle this. And again I don't know how much of the concern was about that or just the general idea of wrestlers hurting themselves wrestlers landing on their head. This came on the heels of the Kenny Omega statement did you see that one. Yes he actually was as. As wishy washy and polite and breathy on that as he was normally but he was somewhat the voice of reason which again he's not and he's not an inflammatory bombastic kind of guy as Kenny he's just a insufferable phony wrestling douche but go ahead. Well he made his statement and then Tony con made an appearance on the Mark Hoke show pro wrestling radio show podcast as it's listed here. Now I'm sorry what now help me what Mark Hoke I guess that's the host name. Hoke Hoke H. O. K. E. the Mark Hoke show pro wrestling radio show podcast. This is how it's incorporated. Well he brought up the host of that show the aforementioned Mr. Hoke brought up William Regal's warning his tweet and here's what Tony. What is his is all of his all of his shows are pretty hokey I bet pro wrestler. Here's Tony Kahn's response to it pro wrestlers are always taking hard hitting and high risk chances. That's one of the things that makes pro wrestling so exciting in A. W. we've been able to have all these great events and we've never had a career ending injury like that from our wrestling. I don't think A. W. is any different than any other way but hold on hold on hold on pump the brakes here for a second. Who said anything about career ending. Well yeah well to be fair we don't know what was framed as a question we don't have the question we just have the quote. Okay I don't know. I was going to say is it is does it not count if you break your neck and you have some kind of surgery and you're out for two and a half years and you come back well it didn't end his career but go ahead. Well to be fair is Adam Cole's career ended. But whatever. Well he may he may have committed career suicide. He is a suicide blonde died by his own hand. I don't think A. W. is any different than any other wrestling promotion in the world. The wrestlers want to do their very best and sometimes a promotion will step in. A. W. and I have a time stepped in and said I can't do that. I don't think that's a good idea. I don't want to do that every day or every match but there are times where it comes up and that's okay. Everything you talk about these are. Hold on. Hold on one more second. I'm wondering what the things are first of all that he stepped in and but they've set each other on fire. They've run over each other with vehicles. They have drunk each other's blood. They have attempted the bleach pouring. What did he step in and say and the dragging the dragging of the people behind the scene. The vehicles that's a good one. And much less all the high bumps and furniture etc. What did he X-nay. I'm wondering and then I know you can't answer that. I don't know if there is an answer. I don't know if there is an answer. But secondly besides you know what has he X-nayed. This is not something. How can I phrase this it's not something that he should have to X-nay because. If they have set up a situation where these guys on all these TV shows are telling Tony con every move they're going to do in the fucking match in the course of the night. Then that's just insane anyway. There ought to be some type of professionalism spread out amongst the roster at least with the the individual agents who should have veto power. But I know Tony doesn't give that to anybody but apparently but himself but no the agent in any responsible place that I've ever worked. Had veto power except if it was the goddamn the rock or the championship match of the company or whatever blah blah blah. But just over a goddamn move that doesn't make any difference in the in the finish or in who's going over or in with a story being told it's just I'm going to bust out this thing where I drop him on his head off the top rope. That shouldn't get to Tony con. You see what I'm saying. If the boys don't know not to do that or maybe the guy that wants to give it wants to do it but the guy that was supposed to take it is like no. Then there an agent of something of that danger should know about it and should say there's no reason for it because you're not going to get it. You're already you're going to be fine with all the other stuff you're doing. I don't go ahead. I'm sorry. I don't know what agents can do. Remember the good old days when Matt Hardy jumped onto his head a couple times on like the same night. One after another. Well no no no. I think it was a Gavara fucking helped him drop him on his head. That's right. That's who he was working with. It was that few. Yeah. He knocked him off the top of a forklift. Yeah whatever. Here's the question is Tony ever said no to Darby. Oh a classic example there for fuck's sake. Just ridiculous risking of spinal injuries for stupid bumps into the stairs that aren't even that impressive much less all the other shit in the distance and accuracy contest where they're flinging in places but and nevertheless. Back to Tony Khan. Everything you talk about. These are things you constantly balance in sports. Not just a W but all sports. Taking care of your athletes and doing things to protect the health and safety of your athletes to make the sport work. And then also there's a quote here related to the specific match in the. How many of the football players have to take bumps off the stadium bleachers through furniture. Then it's during the post game celebration but one last quote here about the match. I thought World's End was great and I thought everything about it was wonderful. And if anybody was talking about Kyle Fletcher versus John Moxley that's one of my favorite matches of all time. And it's all subjective. Best matches always in the eye of the beholder. And I do think it's something to be really proud of a W to hang our hats on how fantastic a year that was all of our wrestlers are doing well. Wait a minute. He's just dangled his part of simple right into a whole new goddamn statement there. Had me unless it or did that match take it that he was referring to in singular grammar suddenly take a year to complete. Again I'll go back a sentence here. Best matches always in the eye of the beholder. And I do think it's something to be really proud of a W to hang our hats on how fantastic a year that was all our wrestlers are doing well. And what a W accomplished in 2025 going into 2026. All our wrestlers are doing well. Osprey you know got his neck fused and he'll be back in months and swerve just came back from having something done and and the other guys fucking hurt who's that and. It's like a week. It's a week into the new year and he's answering like someone asked you. He's him. Tell me about 1984. Oh how fantastic a year that was. It was a long time ago not last year. It was a very good year. Well that's the quotes from the Tony Khan. Thing and again the William Regal tweak got a lot of people going lots of other people in wrestling tweeted out their thoughts. But and once again it would being asked about that specific issue and because of that specific reason Tony didn't mention his name and didn't discuss really anything about it. The same way William Regal didn't mention a specific match or what he was specifically talking about that all of a sudden he put this out there. But it says something that he was concerned. You know what the problem is Brian. The problem is a lot of these young whipper snappers that are doing all these fancy Dan maneuvers where they they're going to be maneuvering in a hover round or a Degum motorized wheelchair before long. They're not planning for the future. They're not setting themselves up for success in business after their athletic careers are over with. They're not thinking about the future. They're just trying to make sure that they're not going to be in the future. Transforming themselves into an entrepreneur. A founder. A boss man. A CEO a mover and shaker and mover and groover. Just like you and me Brian we are we are in control of our own domains our own empires and you could be too out there in podcast land. If you team up with Shopify. I knew you was going to do that. 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Ladies and gentlemen in the new year of 2026 back covering the current wrestling programs as they exist on the air and this was January 7 of 2026 the AEW dynamite program they opened it up because they were in Tulsa with Jim Ross is back at the desk. He was walking slow down the ramp but he's back and I know JR loves to work he loves commentary he loves what he does he really wants to be involved. But I'm embarrassed for him when he has to sit down there and watch this. It's been like the the girls with the cake and the choo choo train dance and the fucking falder all it's just like it's he's doing cable access and it. It hurts me to see. That he was once so. He was once the voice of the hottest program on the air and now he's a witness to. An amateur hour audition. It's just it hurts my feelings. He was the voice the multiple hottest wrestling hours on the air in different times in different decades. But you know what he's a he's still Jim Ross he's doing what he can he's not killing them on commentary like he did in the past and at least he's not Shivani. Just sitting there telling you how great everything is and how happy he is to be there and how it's the best it's ever been and everything's great and he's terrible. Tony sounds like he's losing his voice or maybe he's just he's he's he's old he's older than me for fuck's sake that's almost impossible. He shouldn't have these long hours without rest. It's crazy to think that was the original Dynamite announced him Jim Ross Shivani and Excalibur. That well that is crazy. Find out that now five years later they they've kept the two that we really didn't like and they just brought well nevertheless Jerry's had health problems. And they did five minutes of match plugs and nonsense and blah blah blah. And then they opened up with Dick the boozer himself versus Shelton Benjamin in the stipulation on this was if Shelton either one or got a draw then he got a title shot against Moxley. And if I'm not mistaken I believe that that is a an old idea that Delirious had for Ring of Honor. But we didn't have Moxley at that point in time or we wouldn't have set 20 minute time limits. Jesus I watched this unlike most Moxley matches because it's Shelton and I thought OK here's the test if if anybody can have a match with him. It'd be Shelton but the answer I got was not in the affirmative because Moxley was still calling it. Not only was he calling it but my God I've I've been on dates with girls I didn't whisper in their ear as much as Moxley did with Shelton and this fucking match on camera. I don't know what he was trying to tell him. Maybe he was trying to explain the whole death writer goddamn gimmick to him. But it was a Moxley match. They they went out in the bleachers in the arena and fought on the stairs and around the ring for five minutes at a time with fucking referee just standing there waving his arms. They buried the referee variety of several different ways. And it was a Moxley match. It looked better because Shelton is better than most of the opponents Moxley has. But it was still the people liked it when Shelton threw him around like a sack of shit which he gave him probably 15 fucking German zooplexes. But this also Shelton Benjamin the Hurt Syndicate our baby faces and have been for some time at this point. But Moxley again inexplicably. They started cheering him because he was wrestling the other heels and now he's just he's wrestling a baby face and they're still cheering him. So it's baby face versus alleged baby face. And I. It's no wonder that you can't position anybody in this company because it just. They just indiscriminately book these fucking matches and nobody can get a consistent reaction except when they're breaking furniture. They had to milk the draw and they went like 1955 or whatever and they both can do some decent shit. But the finish was Shelton got him an arm bar kind of almost like a cross arm breaker on him and Moxley just leaned up on him and covered 123 with five seconds left. And then they shook hands. And Moxley did he do something to turn baby face did he save someone. Did he goddamn turn on his heel. Co-horts did he come out and admit that he had been wrong and all of his actions over the last couple of years. Or did he just get cheered against the other heel and give a raw raw speech about how great a W was. Well yeah his unit is still heels and he's a baby face now clearly. And he just had some tough matches and he lost a few times and he showed a lot of adversity or he overcame a lot of adversity. He showed he was he was a verse to adversity to you know get past those losses to Kylo where's Kylo Riley. But anyway. Well who knows he just beat the guy that nobody beat and fucking ages a couple of times and then disappeared. John Moxley's work is terrible. I'm sorry I know people I know they like him. You can't take away that a W fans really like him. What about the girly punches out on the floor to Sheldon's head. Everything was just embarrassing. The punches you said he was talking. I mean we give it the scene of for talking this was more than that this was more egregious than that. Didn't care if anyone saw it. And just everything he does in there looks bad. And then he just does the funny walk. And then he sets up something that looks bad as match lay out is always bad. Those stupid forearms that always look bad. He does them at the worst part of the match. All right we've done all this other crazy shit. Now let's do this again. His matches are terrible. And again is a fan base that thinks his promos are good too. Moxley is one of the worst professional wrestlers I've ever seen. He also has one of the biggest cults of personality around him. And that's why people like him. But goddamn his work is awful. I can't figure out what the personality is. I'm well nevertheless. Then I'm going to be a fan base. I'm going to be a fan base. I'm going to be a fan base. I'm going to be a fan base. Then again we had the lollipop guild back together again. Apparently old Kevin Knight and Hong Kong Fui had been viciously attacked in the back and they weren't medically cleared. So old Jungle Jackoff didn't have partners for the six man tag with Ricochet and his two stooges. But then suddenly out came the Harley boys. And now we've got again the three friends from California playing with the, you know, the other flippy guy that they like and his two stooges that are just happy to be there. And I'm Brian. I know you'll find this hard to believe. Well not you because you saw it, but they started the match with a six way on the floor and a bunch of flips. And I said, well, let's see how long it takes me to fast forward through this. It's the same thing. It's always the same thing. So after about 15 minutes, the kids won. And then I know these baby faces don't know how to get over themselves, but it seems like somebody would be able to catch them and stop them from, but who knew they would, the idiots, and then the match and then they, they kneel down and especially they're close up on old jungle jack. He kneels down and leans over the second rope to talk into the camera so that the other guy, the new heel, Jake Doyle has made his debut. Get out of the way for old Jake Doyle. He's got a big old fat boy right on his neck and it's about to pop. Oh, Jake. Anyway, his partner is now fat ass Davis and they came in the ring and they jumped the fucking baby, but they're having a kick jungle jack from behind while he's leaned over the rope. They didn't even stand up where they could get glommed from behind and be ready to feed or take a bump or do something. They're just. And they got sloppy lackluster heat in quotation marks and there was another one of the masked guys that he's got callus and some of the miscellaneous heels are out there and they kick shit out of these guys for a couple of seconds. And then here comes again, spitball Bailey and Kevin Knight with parts of their bodies wrapped up and one of them's got a hockey stick and the other one has. What was that a barbed wire wrapped fucking cricket bat or whatever. And they try to make a save, but the lights go out. And by the way, that's going to be a problem later on in the evening, but this apparently they can turn all of them out and all of them back on, but they can't turn. Well, you've heard that old saying Brian, you can turn some of the lights on some of the time and some of the lights on all of the time, which can't turn all the lights on all the time or something like that. It's dark forever. Lights come back on. Lights come back on. There's a guy wearing a mask and a suit in the ring. And he starts beating up the baby faces and sock face is so. I don't even know what the word is so anxious, so eager to reveal this that he told people it was Andre before Andre took the mask off and revealed it was Andre. And I know that somebody will say probably sock face. Well, I know the guy and I've seen him dressed in that and I knew it was that that's where you fucking. Number one, if they had the proper layout of the segment, the guy's lights would have come on the you would have seen the guy and he'd had done boom boom. In 10 seconds and laid two people out with two moves and then you could have said it, but that's where you fucking stretch a little bit and go, wait a minute. I think I know who that is, but it can't be he can't be here now. Why, it just bullshit. But anyway, he spoiled the hood being popped. Then he popped the hood. We already knew who it was. Another member of the Don Fallis family. What's that now 14 Brian. Who's in the Don Fallis family right now? And we talk about this every week. We did this before and as more people. All right, Lance Archer. Tekecha. And Fletcher. And Ocata. And Rocky Romero. And Mark Davis. And is that your chair oan or am I thinking of someone else? Yeah, no, it's it's a chair. Like a chair. The clone. Like, that's right. I forgot about him. Hold on. Like Jake. He's to be Jake something. What's his new name, Jake? a dole. Jake Doyle. Johnny Doyle's brother. I don't know about that. But Jake Doyle. That's nine. Who am I forgetting? Can't believe I said nine people and I still feel like I'm forgetting people. Why? Because there's more depending on the whims of the week. But anyway, so and while this joyous reunion with Andre is happening, is barely he's got his contractual ducks in a row now. FTR comes out on the stage with Stokely in a wheelchair. And they're just looking at why are they looking? Who are they looking at? What the and Stokely in a wheelchair. Yes, he took the bad bump. But now you've got a funny visual. And again, I remind everybody, whether it was me being funny or Jimmy Hart being funny or whatever about an injury. It was after we had heat and it was at a time where we were constantly having more heat put on us and then we would do something to blow a little off and then get some more back. Stokely has never been treated seriously taken seriously presented seriously acted seriously. Neither is callous. They don't have none of them have any heat. They're just doing the funny shit that makes them a funny comedy flunky. And at the same time drags the stature of the guy that the guy that they're with down because it's just goofy shit. So there's 18 people out there and they just they just debuted and by the way, Jake Doyle looks a lot like Davis. They're wearing the same outfit. They're wearing the exact same outfit. They're both gigantic. Well, yeah, I mean, even facially, hairwise, whatever should have made them the Davis brothers. If nothing, I don't know where Doyle comes from. But nevertheless, you've just introduced this guy into the they did a free tape at the top where they then here's Jake Doyle. He's here. And then he comes in and gets a little bit of heat. And then the other guy comes in. Why do you debut two people in the same goddamn it just it's a mess. So there's 15 fucking people after your your thoughts on anything related to that. Who's that wrestler dressed like Andrade? It's it's it's Andrade. I don't know. I mean, how much can you pop for Andrade at this point when he randomly shows up? And now he's just another guy. That's the 10th guy. Just that we've come up with today. In this group, what a heal manager you don't take seriously, doesn't work ringside. Even if he did, you wouldn't take him seriously. You see what his instincts are. And then as far as the match, Jack Perry, he almost looks less like a wrestler now than he did a few years ago, his jungle boy. Because now that he's not just some young kid, he hasn't grown. He hasn't gained a pound. And he just looks so tiny. Any wrestler, any female wrestler could take Jack Perry. And the young bucks, they're back all of a sudden, they're just being the baby face young bucks. I get all didn't happen. You know, I'm thinking, old jungle jack there, it may be the loincloth that may have something to do with his lack of virility looking because I bet you right now Johnny Sheffield when he was 14 could have kicked the shit out of jungle Jack Perry. I don't disagree. Is Johnny Sheffield still alive? Of course, ladies, gentlemen, if you're a small child in the audience, Johnny Sheffield played boy in the MGM Tarzan movies with Johnny Weissbühler. And later on, got his own series, Bomba the Jungle Boy. And when he was, let's see, they found him in the plane crash in 1939. And by Tarzan and the Mermaids, that kid had to be 15 years old. He towered over Jack Perry when he was 15. I say Bomba the Jungle Boy could kick the shit out of jungle Jack Perry. You know, to me, one of the big themes all night. And of course, there are some big highlights to come. But we've been saying it really more and more every week, it hits me just they're they're stuck in terms of getting new talent. You know, we're seeing the same people, you know, with an injured wrestler rotated back in every now and then. But it's the same people doing the same things every single week. It's been years now. And there's no big stars coming in. There's no one coming in. Who even if they bring Jericho back, that ain't going to help. He's not new there. The biggest thing, the biggest benefit to the WWE Jericho is going to be is he's so new because he they miss him because he went away. I don't think they really miss him in AEW yet because it would be what it would be. But nevertheless, and there's the only the newest thing in AEW right now is M.J.F.'s hair. And in terms of the Callis family, it's ridiculous. And it's a ridiculous. And it's a gigantic, endless group. But it was even more ridiculous when the, I guess, the Samoa Joe group or whoever the ops trainees. Oh, did you see those teenagers? Yeah, well, I'll wait till we get there. But it was like, what the fuck is this? Like a fucking loose. Suddenly, the daycare center descended on our we'll get there in a minute, because we got to we got to skip over some other nonsense. Renee Mokslegod, she of the unfortunate name this week, was in the ring with Willow Nightingale, who was supported by her friend Harley Cameron and her new friend, who they were enemies for a while. And I forgot why that they're not anymore, because I forgot why they were to begin with. Chris Stathlander, because Willow is the new TBS champion because now, like, again, Moksle didn't get beat for a year and a half. And he did like fucking four jobs in a row. It's the same thing. Mercedes never gets beat. Suddenly, she's getting beat like a government mule. But they had the ring set up with a table and the party supplies and a big cake for Willow's celebration as new TBS champion. Again, I'm not the person to knock having a party with a cake on TV as a celebration. If you're a heel or potentially, if it's good, the tables are going to be turned on the heel, I think is the better way to do it, because baby faces seem kind of indulgent and stuck up and arrogant if they have a party with cakes and party favors for themselves. It's kind of a heel move. But nevertheless, again, this is something where you've got to have some, you can't just do it out of nowhere. And they've done parties out the ass and they've done cakes in a face on this show recently. I remember seeing them a few times, I think, yeah, a few times. But you've got to have some setup to it. You've got to have heat on the fucking heel that's going to get caked. Yes. But also there needs to be some legitimate purpose rather. We're going to have a fucking party here. And Mercedes came out on her own in a ring full of baby faces in a goofy outfit where she looked like a squished banana cream pie. And apparently she's doing a deal where she just lost her mind over this losing this belt or whatever because she had no makeup on. So my God, that was Josephine Camel unfiltered and just in screaming. But she clears off the table and turns the table over but Statenlander and saved the cake and then Mercedes runs at Willow, who just moves and Mercedes trips and cakes herself. She falls in the cake and then Willow picks her up and power bombs her back in the cake. And then they all get in a conga line, including the interviewer and dance around the caked lady. It's just comedy. It's just a rib. It's just not even kind of, it's sketch comedy kind of. Does he really have a coherent thread through it? It's bad acting too. I know Mercedes is on one of the Star Wars series. I haven't watched it. But I didn't hear anyone complain about her acting. I don't know what she did. But she's a horrible actress. Well, I can tell you from officially being a movie star now that I am, they can take that shit all day long and you only see one. But this shit where you only get one take, that's what you're getting. It's just like it makes you appreciate the acting on glow. When you see this and I like Willow, Willow, her promo is just doesn't, I don't know. This whole segment was a bad idea. And then Mercedes just the over the top acting. Well, acting. So yeah, a lot to look forward to there. Well, let's go on back over the top and down the other side because we got to give them room to breathe. So we're going to bring out Sammy Guevara for his annual appearance on Dynamite. Who it was in a single match against Bandito. And again, I guess we'll talk about it in a minute, but apparently they're pushing Bandito as a single. I thought he and Brody King were Bro Dildo or whatever. They were the tag team champions. But now we were they're going to use him as a single. So now he doesn't even have a partner that can halfway do a promo. And I know a lot of people though he does such great moves, but I don't Bandito there. What is his personality? What is this? I sound like JR in an old WWF creative meeting. What is his motivation? What? Why can't we don't know what he looks like? We don't know who he is. We don't know. They did instead of giving us a kind of a legitimate biography of Bandito and what he's done in Mexico, they had him at like Silver Dollar City having shootouts with the goddamn gimmick Cowboys. Remember in those videos. So it's just it's a cartoon and we're supposed to be taking him as a challenger for the world title here more on that minute. Is Sammy Guevara Brian the Chevy chase of AEW first year? He was hot as a firecracker. Everybody's going crazy over him. Then everybody figured out he was a fucking dick and now he pops up every once in a while. Nobody cares. It was just a few years ago. He was one of the pillars of the company and then he got it. He looks more like Stonehenge, the bad side. Then he disappeared off TV. So anyway, they took about 15 minutes with the entrances and Bandito won with that stupid suplex. It's ridiculous because this since he did it here about four or five times in this overall segment, it's exposed. Unless you're being frisked by the police or about to be butt fucked in an alleyway. There is no reason for anybody to be in that position that everybody has to get into and hold stock still while he gives them this flippy fucking suplex. Am I lying? Is it unnatural and ridiculous looking? It's a cool looking thing if it happened every once in a while because of a situation that developed where the guy was like that. But it's every match where the guy does it and you notice that he's there for a while bent over like that. Yeah, bent over and greased up and ready to go. So he won with the suplex and then here came MJF. And that's where I said, oh, God, no, MJF and Bandito. Apparently next week for the AEW title. But when you think about it, who else can he beat on this roster that would even mean anything? But and I wrote down MJF has some guy with him. Apparently the guy's name is Jonathan Cruz. And he is going to serve as the translator here in a minute. But MJF cut the promo that he was a bigger lucha legend and a bigger star in Mexico than Bandito because he'd sold out and beat Mistco or did this and that and the other thing. And then Cruz did the promo in Spanish and apparently, Brian, you told me this, he's the guy that was dressed like Abraham Lincoln when MJF was in Mexico. That's right. And but now that he doesn't have the Abraham Lincoln outfit on, he's about fucking 60 years old. But he did the promo in Spanish and it didn't get a lot of response because it went a while and nobody understood in the building what he was saying. They're in Tulsa. They weren't in Corpus Christi or whatever. But during this part of the promo, did you see a security come over and get signed from the front row? Oh no, I missed that. The sign, the guy in the front row was holding a sign in front of the railing and said, MJF blows goats and I've got proof. Oh, I did see the sign. I didn't see them come get it. Oh, that's why they snatched it in the middle of his promo. Because you see the security guy just reach into the frame and the guy just gave it up, no problem. He's like, okay, I'm busted. They don't want to piss off the goat fans. But anyway, MJF says, hey, basically, I've got six diamond rings. So he's closing up these loopholes. I got six rings and you got one bandito and it belongs to me. So hand it over, skip this match next week. We'll all be copacetic. And finally, bandito took the microphone and I speak English, you stupid son of a bitch. And MJF kicked him right into balls. That was a good spot. You know, a good moment when he said that after the whole spot. And that was the thing, because if he'd had, if he'd have spoken any longer and tried to get it out, he would have lost him. But he got a pop on that. And then MJF says it kicked him into balls and took the ring off and went for the punch and bandito ducked and MJF leveled Cruz who was holding bandito. And then bandito kicked MJF into balls and took the ring back. And then I think he gave, did he give Cruz the suplex first or whatever the fuck, but then MJF had to grab the rope and again, assume the butt fucking position and freeze there and bandito gave him the suplex. And I get that they have to build somebody up for MJF, but it just, you know, he just won the thing and he's, you know, getting mugged and flopped around by this guy. I actually, when they were doing that, I thought, you know what, if after MJF kicked bandito into balls and fucking took the ring, if he'd have nailed him and busted him open and then somebody like Osprey had come back down the aisle to save bandito. And that was the angle and we're leading to a pay-per-view. That would have been great, but MJF is going to have to fucking do some of bandito shit, which is going to hinder his normal performance. And then, you know, it's somebody for him to beat, but I don't really care about seeing it. But they could have set something up with a real star and it would have, would have been okay. You do some of that bandito shit like what, like the self-induced concussion. They had a promo earlier in the show. I think it was earlier than this from Kenny Omega, a videotape, cutting a promo on MJF. So they're setting that up already. Even, I don't know. Oh, I must have zipped through that when I was trying to avoid some of the other non-six. I don't know when they're planning it, but that's something where they had a match a few years ago, but that's it. There's never been a feud. Not that it would be the greatest thing because it's, you know, Kenny and his instincts are Kenny's. Yeah. But that could be something. MJF versus Kenny Omega. If you're not getting other main event talent coming in, two guys that have never had a feud doing something could be something. Well, and also if Kenny now is watching what he's doing, then he could listen to MJF who could actually call a wrestling match and make people give a shit about it and doesn't have to do all the shit that he normally does because he can't anymore. It might work out well. MJF could have a match with him that would probably be the easiest on his body, but not disappoint fans of Kenny Omega. The question is, can Kenny Omega stop himself from doing all the things that he thinks Kenny Omega needs to do? What do you think of? What's his name here? Jonathan Cruz, the Abraham Bruegan manager. What do you think of his role with MJF here? Now we've seen him in America. I like the idea that MJF has a flunky with him. Yeah. You can't really call him a manager because he should in no way have any control over MJF or his contract or anything like that. And besides, the manager well is poisoned here because of the other managers. But if MJF has a flunky, if this guy is not only his translator, but he's driving him, he's carrying his bags, maybe he's his personal chef. You go to MJF's house and he's on the fucking mower out in the front yard. He's the guy that MJF throws in the way and sacrifices him to save his own scalp whenever there's something going on. That is a guy like MJF. There's a lot of tully blanchardishness when you think about it in MJF too. A guy wearing nice clothes and fucking the belt tucked under his arm and the sunglasses and dashing and you know, he's got to have a flunky around him somewhere. So that might be interesting, but I don't know about. Well, yeah, because Jimmy Hart is obviously a Hall of Fame manager now. But when he first started, people forget for the first six months when he was just Lawler's manager. It was the same as really Lawler and Sam Bass back so many years ago or Lawler and Mickey Poole in the summer of 77. Lawler had a manager as kind of his living foreign object. Lawler did his own promos. The manager would just talk when Lawler asked him a question and you know, answer in whatever affirmative manner he needed to. The manager was there to interfere to pass Lawler a gimmick and take it back or throw the boot in or to pull a leg or to draw the referee. It was part of it. It wasn't like a full me and the Midnight Express or Bobby Heenan and anybody or whatever where we were talking for the guys and it was a flunky and Lawler worked well off of flunkies. And when Lawler broke his leg, Jimmy had to swim in the deep end of the pool. But nevertheless, MJF having a flunky could add a little something. He's carrying his belt for him. He's fucking, if he was gorgeous, George, he could spray the perfume, that type of thing. Anywho, oh, we're still moving on this television show, aren't we? You know, everyone thinks of it in wrestling, the term valet as being one of the girls. But there used to be male valets for our gorgeous George or other wrestlers, too. I mean, Lord James Blear's lots of people had them. Well, yes. So much to bring that back. As a matter of fact, hold on here. W, G, R, S, T, U, V. I'm in the American Heritage Dictionary Third Edition. Oh, they finally added you. Interesting. No, I'm not. I'm in it looking in it instead of in it. You know what I'm saying. But I'm looking up valet. Valley, Valley Forge, Valor, Valparaiso, valuable, value, valuation, value. Where do I'm passed to? We're there valet. A man's male servant who takes care of his clothes and performs other personal services. Or an employee is in a hotel who performs personal services for guests. Valet with the valets were originally men. And the gorgeous George had what was one of the names, Jeffries, right? And right before he got he got his wife in the act. And then gorgeous George, Jr. When he first came to Tennessee, I can't remember. He had a guy with him, I think the the first time that he was here and then brought his wife, it was Suzette. But the male and female, I believe in those days, were distinguished by his valet. If he was a male was valet. And if it was a female, it was valet. But in technical terms, the valet is a male. Right, because every manager in AEW is a goof. Stokely, you can't take seriously. Don Kalisch, you can't take seriously. You can't add another figure that may be a comedy figure at any time into that mix. But if it's a valet, it changes the whole relationship. Well, but again, it doesn't have to be the valet. It can actually can be the stooge. It can be the assistant. It can be, you know, whatever name they want to come up for it, but it or something different every week. This week, he's my chauffeur. Next week, he's my cook. Next week, he's my proctologist. I don't know whatever the fuck. But always it to be demeaned, made fun of and the cannon fodder for the babyfaces. And MJF, you know, gets off Scot free. And then at some point, it's Taylor made that the finally the guys is new. And MJF fucks him up and a big babyface comes to save him. And then the guys in the babyface's corner, because he knows all the tricks and he'll cheat MJF out of the fucking blah, blah, blah, blah, whatever. But that would be too much like wrestling or it could be a long term rewarding relationship. Well, you could do both. You could have a long term rewarding relationship until you stab each other in the back and want to fucking kill each other. You know, you would think we would kill a manager that was dressed like Abraham Lincoln, but I was so intrigued by the whole thing. You know, just the whole thing going to a show in Mexico dressed like Abe Lincoln. It worked with the there's the evil American MJF is draped in the red, white and blue against the national hero of Mexico. And it brings honest aid with him to lie and cheat and etc. That kind of worked. I don't know if Abraham Lincoln would work if they were here like every week in Cleveland or whatever. You know what the problem is, Brian? MJF doesn't have anything he can sink his teeth into. He doesn't have anything thick and meaty and juicy and bubbling with flavor that he can just snatch his teeth into and chew on and really chew up the scenery and give a bravura performance. He needs something to chew on, Brian. That's what I'm saying. I wonder if MJF knows about our friends over at Factor. Do you think? Oh, I don't know. That's actually a very good suggestion, I could say, because their food is delicious. I've been eating Factor meals. I guess we should say Factor meals. I've been eating them for quite a while now. You've been eating Factor-y. I have. 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If we're going to eat this type of stuff and then we then you can too. Who the fuck are you better than we are? Yeah, see factor. Here's another factor of people who are not any better than we are. The main event. I've never seen this before Brian. They had a lights out match where they turned the lights on and couldn't or turned the lights off and couldn't get him to come back on. They. Now that somebody has told him the story about how the lights out match originated that the idea was that. It's a non sanctioned match. The promotion is only giving the. The time in the ring to the participants to settle their issue. The promotion is not responsible if anybody gets hurt. It's not an officially sanctioned match. It's not going in the record books. And as Eddie Graham would do since it's it was a called a lights out match because they would symbolically turn the ring lights out at the end of the regular card. And then turn them back on to signify that show it ended and now this is something extra. And that became the lights out match and then people forgot a lot of that pageant pre surrounding it. But now somebody has told them the story over there. Because it was a lights out match. No time limit. No disqualification. Anything goes. And they actually had old smiley Roberts say the lights will go down to send to signify that our show is over and then it will come back up. And then we're not responsible for anything. And they turned the lights down and they wouldn't come back on. And now for like the first two fucking minutes of the match. The only light of around ringside or above the ring was the handheld spotlights that they had that they could shine on each guy individually as long as he didn't move. I know that there are a certain kind of well let me say this and then you chime in because you may be going in this direction. I know that there are certain kinds of arena lights that if you turn them off I think they're like vapor lights or whatever but that they they take a certain amount of like five minutes or whatever to either cool down or recharge or where they could come back on. But I don't know what kind of fucking television lights that they were because they did happen twice. But at one point they had a blackout and then they had because they had the lighting problem earlier in the Willow Nightingale match when something just went out for no reason it came back on. It was the same kind of lighting there. Yeah but they probably they probably had tried it and hit the wrong cue or something I don't know but I don't know what kind of TV lights they would have been using that they could turn off and turn back on one time and then turned off and couldn't get back on the next time is what I'm saying. But nevertheless so it was a true lights out match. There was one god damn it is he slap with his son had emailed me one time an old Eastern Kentucky outlaw show where they actually they forgot when they had the outdoor show that they had scheduled at the start in daytime but it would be dark afterwards or something and they had him turn to god damn the car lights on the match. No as a matter of fact that was the story he said where the guy turned the lights out in the building because that's the way that it was advertised a lights out match and he wouldn't let him turn it back on because he wanted to give the people what they'd advertised and he wasn't smart to the business so they had a fucking match in the dark that went 90 seconds and then fucking just counted one two three and left. Anyhow I wish the lights had been off through the whole thing of this. It was powerhouse Hobbes and Hook against Adam Page and swerve and okay we know then that the heels aren't going to win but the idea is that Page and swerve were teaming up a blah blah blah but why does it have to be a garbage match too? And they did the same they started right at the overrun really at 10 o'clock chairs and the fighting on the floor and then finally they got the lights back on and then they had tables in the ring and a staple gun and fake spots and then I swear you got a kick out of this but swerve and Page get outside and get under the ring and and pull out a flat of like six or eight cinder blocks quote unquote and they can't get it in the ring it's stuck on the apron skirt it's stuck under the rope or whatever they took forever and these other guys just having to lay around and wait till these chuckle fucks get this thing in the ring and then Hobbes ended up power slamming swerve on the cement blocks they got a two count before Page made a save and then more shit with chairs and whatever and then that's when the ops dojo came out. I know they're just using local independent guys but did they is there a Tulsa branch of Mack Ratz these guys were all 14 years old it looked ridiculous and just all of them nondescript long-haired teenagers with op shirts on just jump Page and kick the shit out of him in front of the referee well I say kick the shit it looked fake as fuck but they were interfering but it's no DQ and then they got the chain the big logging chain and fake tied swerve and Page together by their necks where the close-up you could see that the chain was in no way tight around their necks and that they were sitting there and cooperating while these guys could figure out how to get the chain wrapped around them and then finally because they had a cool spot they thought of Nana gets up and throws coffee and Hobbes his face and Page and swerve make a little comeback while they're tied neck to neck and then do a little flippy thing where Page gets out of it but is it just ridiculous it then swerve and Page gave Hobbes a spike dead eye on the cement blocks to get take him out of the picture okay you're saving the big monster with his devastating thing you're gonna beat the other guy so Hobbes rolls over and lays there but then they they got hooked and they roughed him up and they punched him in the head with the chain and then swerve kicked him in the head and then they walked around and Page hit the buckshot on him and then wrapped the rope around his neck and threw him and hung him over the top rope and hook tapped out from being hung by the neck until semi-dead over the top rope what the they can't get out of their own way you gave Hobbes the big move so he's down the big guy can't save hook hit him with a double team and pin him one two three right then but it's it's the chain and the kick and the buckshot and the hanging and the and Brian one more question if if you've got a chain around your neck and you're being hung by it do you do you have the energy to tap out I wouldn't think so has it happened in the UFC have they hung anyone who tapped out not officially what'd you think of that last oh it was an embarrassment it was awful it was terrible I hated everything on this show just except for the mjf the manager the not manager his promo guy doing the Spanish promo I thought that was great but this show is a big ball of nothing for me the the main the show is today you know swerve at this point I've become used to the fact that swerves matches usually have some of the stupidest things you'll ever see and he's obsessed with the staple gun now I guess and yeah you know just not good I don't know how many people would have stayed around if we had quarter hours because of uh yeah I just don't know how many people to stay around for this I guess that's all you took the life that I had so much like enthusiasm talk wrestling and fucking dynamite yeah yeah well we had to get it out of the way well that was a w dynamite all right Brian well I guess we ought to start talking about something a little more pleasant to discuss and so we're going to go back to a a segment we've been doing we're working on it the well I guess we did the best 20 wrestlers in their 20s this whole thing was instigated by somebody did a list of the best 20 wrestlers in their 20s today and we said is that all there is that's what she said it there's not a lot of young 20 year old guys that or girls that it seems like are going to be hall of famers in the future and so you went back and compiled a list from 1984 40 years ago was a pivotal year in the wrestling business with Vince's expansion the thing is how many wrestlers were there of various ages that were used that were pushed that were on top or appearing regularly on television across all the major territories and we did the list of the 20 best in their 20s which had hall of famers out to yin yang but then the 30s or it's even more plentiful and we did a segment all these by the way are on the YouTube channel so you can look them up if you want to catch up with us as we play along but we did like a third of the 30s list and had to quit because we'd gone so long and we're going to pick that up and see how much further we can get here in a second but just to keep everybody up to date on I'm going to go through the names real quick and this is not the people we've said are the absolute best of the best but just this is who we've been through John Studd by backland buddy rose bob orton jr. greg valentine kielbilly jim hulk hogan jessy ventura junkyard dog kamala don marocco mass superstar paul orndorf nickolai volkov roddy piper sergeant slaughter seika the samoan tito santana tiger chung lee tony atlas jerry brisco dick murdoch buddy roberts adrian adonis andre the giant austin idol bill Irwin bruser brody hacksaw butch reed chavo guerrero denis kondry dusty roads the great kabuki hacksaw duggin and jerry lawlor those are just the guys some of the guys in their 30s only that were active in 1984 we've still got a heck of a list to get through on that so I guess the the point that we are making as we go through this and correct me if I'm wrong is that Jesus Christ there was a lot more money drawing accomplished experienced well-rounded hall of fame level talent in the business then then there is it around the world today that's clear from looking at these lists and then comparing it to the modern ones and of course jim the original goal was a top 20 in their 30s you thought that may be too difficult but we're still on a path to possibly doing that I think we have 11 or 12 names that are definite some question marks let's see how we finish up here today they'll probably be a part three as well jim going back to this list at the age of 35 in 1984 jumping jim brunzel and sad to say his best years were behind him but think about this he'd been in the business for over 10 years at that point he and Greg Ganya as the high flyers in the awa for verne that was that was verne's rock and roll express years earlier the verne's crew was notable for their seniority baron von rashke the crusher and bruiser and billy robinson and verne himself and nick bachwickle and and a lot of those guys still had a lot of gas left in the tank but this was his nod to you know a young team that the young girls can like his son greg and jim brunzel who kind of a more legitimate heartthrob type greg couldn't get a date on a tombstone um so brunzel it already as i said been a business for 10 years and had worked on top and worked in not only did he have runs in the awa he had been in japan by that point i think they used him for a run in georgia at one time as a babyface and then he's is he about to be or already just has become a killer b with b bryan blair uh not yet it wouldn't happen in 84 would happen at 85 okay so but point being you know after the killer bees jim transitioned out of the business so not to downgrade him but at this point he's had his best runs except for the run with the killer bees that was kind of the the big one at the end did you get to see much of him i know he was in mid-atlantic for a little bit did you get to see much jim brunzel uh not on tape finally after 1980 but i'd seen he and uh who'd they work with he and greg defended the awa tag team title in memphis on the first show where jared uh formed the alliance with verne in september of 78 it was lala and bachwinkel for the title on top and ghania and brunzel defended against frankie lane and mike boyette and brunzel was a heck of a babyface good athlete he was one of those guys from we talked about roosevelt high school in minneapolis from robinsdale high school in robinsdale minnesota with the hinting family and etc and he he was kind of like the in the team of spike huber and steve regal he was steve regal and ghania was spike huber all right jim well turning 32 in september from world class gorgeous jimmy garvin and that's insane right he's 32 years old he's already had that run in in dalis or started the run still in it but jimmy started when he was 18 years old he the garvin family relation terry garvin was not really nobody was a garvin right nobody had the last name garvin but terry started the the trend and he was french canadian and ronnie garvin's french canadian also and when he when terry got ronnie as a younger partner he became a brother and ronnie was jimmy stepfather a lot of people didn't know that they thought they were brothers but ronnie and legitimately was jimmy stepfather had married his mother or whatever so jimmy started when he was like 18 years old as the skinny bleach blonde manager of ron and terry the garvin brothers and there ron is is he's wearing like regular trunks and boots and he's got hair bleach blonde but otherwise and that he looked like he always did and there's terry garvin with his gorgeous george hairdo and wearing a fucking nightgown and jimmy's somewhere in the middle right he's bleach blonde but he's big around as a fucking drinking straw and but that was the way he broke in and i had seen him on tv here and in in he was in the tenancy territory when he was 18 his manager of you know the the garvin boys and then he came back in 1977 as a baby face with black hair kind of like in an afro in a mustache and he gained 50 pounds and i just started taking pictures and i asked him i said are you the same jimmy garvin as well and he's yeah yeah that was the way i kind of broke in you know yeah but anyway um already a big start it's not my fault is what it's not his fault not at all but it's not my fault i'm so gorgeous my lips are dry precious i think i need a little kiss oh yeah but anyway he'd already got the gorgeous jimmy gorgeous jimmy gimmick but even before that he'd been used as a high upper middle card baby face in a few different places but now he's really he's blossomed out with that over the previous few years so that was prime jimmy because honestly by the free bird era of 1989 that was about the end of the road for poor gorgeous 84 was the chris adams feud continuing into texas stadium and then eventually you know by the end of the year he's headed towards the a w a and the stuff in montreal but is he on your list for 1984 uh i honestly as crowded as this is and remember i mentioned andre the giant fucking dusty roads and rick flair so i don't think jimmy's gonna make the top 20 in their 30s jim turning 36 in 1984 kendo nagasaki oh god damn what was his name was it sonata sonota his real name i don't remember for sure but nevertheless uh kendo nagasaki got the gimmick basically because they needed another kabuki it was kind of like mighty igor and iven putzki the kabuki gimmick got hot on dalas tv and or actually it was a tv but it was georgia tv before that and so kendo nagasaki became the kabuki gimmick in florida while the kabuki was in texas and it it just i saw kendo nagasaki because that was when they were trading talent florida to come up and jj dylan was managing kamala and other people to try to get lawler and he was okay but it was really it was the gimmick and if you hadn't seen kabuki then kendo nagasaki was okay if you never saw kabuki he's better than kabuki if you saw kabuki it's a kabuki ripoff yes all right so not on your list here's another interesting one jim turning 35 in october kevin solvon wow and again he'd already been in the business for 12 years no 13 years uh because he started in seven no maybe 14 years he started either 70 or 71 and after training up in boston his first territory was east tennessee and he teamed with whitey caldwell uh at that point i mean they started using kevin in florida in the in the mid 70s well and he was a team one of the top babyface teams of the decade with uh mike graham and we've told stories about kevin eddie thought of him as a kind of another son maybe sometimes even better than when eddie and mike were on the outs so kevin worked georgia he had a great run where he almost revived the san francisco business for roi schyer in what 78 uh he had been all over georgia television he'd been in memphis and been a top healer there member of the jimmy hart's first family and he's in florida at that point and just about to get his first spot booking so again you've got guys who are in their mid 30s who have been presented as stars at some level somewhere for a decade again i'd you know how i feel about kevin i'd like to say he's one of the top guys 20 guys in their 30s but we've got again so many names to come yet and it's just it's so crowded all right lots of respect but not on your list jim turning 33 in december larry zebisco can you imagine when larry zebisco was only 33 years old he always is seemed more mature um and there you go larry's been in the business for almost for about 10 years at that point maybe 11 uh initially a babyface bruno helped him get broken in but they used him underneath for pretty much you know five years or so until finally they they talked vince senior into pulling a trigger on the protege turning on the student and it was the biggest box office turn i guess they ever did in the w w w f right or the yeah yeah that it was it it was the w w f by then they dropped an f before that that's right but they did monster business and the thing is larry in the awa was a a main event guy and actually became a member of the family we used to call him larry zebisco ganya and because he married verne's daughter by the way for people wondering he'd been used in georgia uh but that that w w f run he never i mean it would have been almost impossible to equal that business anywhere else or even in that territory ever again but he never really got to that status again in that level of a territory doing anything but had a long and successful career and a very entertaining son of a guy but not on your list now look well let's go back to people that we put check marks by and see i was evaluating them right because we don't know how how how we're gonna end up there's so many names we already put a check mark on greg valentine hulk hogan junkyard dog kamala paul orndorf roddy piper sergeant slaughter uh tony atlas with a question mark andrey the giant and actually originally we said valentine and kamala were question marks too so they're not that's right i'm sorry no hold on i forgot my question mark on valentine uh but i mean again more andre bruser brody butch reed dusty roads hacksaw dug and jerry luller you know and we've got a lot we've got steamboat to go flair hansen i don't want to give anything away but holy shit let's keep going because yeah but you gotta evaluate you gotta evaluate the guys on who they are not on who's coming up or who you think is coming up well yes but i'm just saying for the sake of it's just ridiculous to give all these people a checkmarking and we got 40 checks i'm holding my standards a little higher well jim back to the list here also turning 33 in 1984 pistol pes watley pistol pez i saw pez watley as a rookie um he at first was with phil golden's all-star wrestling in 72 73 when he just broken in he was a great amateur at ut chattanooga and then he started working in the memphis territory i guess his first run was 75 ish or so great athlete and exciting babyface and could talk even then and i think later on in in the 80s it got awfully cartooned didn't it shasca watley or the jive tones or he went over the top with the interview he was just a good-looking happy smiling young babyface and i thought he was very effective but again good talent but he it's his deep company all right jim we're moving on here with the list turning 35 in may robert fuller and there's another guy he at robert fuller in 1984 had been in the business for 13 years and had been a main event guy in in a variety of the southern territories for 10 of them he was southern evi weight champion in 1974 worked a program with lawlor young good-looking early 20s kid uh but bouncing around between the tennessee territories nick gulis's end the memphis end of jerry jaret noxville that his brother ron would end up buying robert had booked noxville by the time he was 28 or whatever unfortunately that success did not replicate itself over in memphis um in florida and georgia go ahead or georgia as a book yeah or georgia yeah oh god i forgot he booked at georgia a spell for a while there yeah before vince he was the previous person to say hey let's give stan frazier a national stage well as a babyface all the guys from the tennessee territory love frazier for the entertainment value in the locker room uh but yeah i mean a legendary name and and the most giant cock in all of creation and i don't mean that attitude wise i mean that actually literally uh but he's still it's so deep here the next name alone is going to tell you why he's not on my best 20 list all right well not on your list and you keep teasing it you want to give everything away jim 31 years old in february ricky steamboat boom there that's gotta be a check that's gotta be a check because coming off a major 83 well yeah and i mean a major decade between the time he broke in which was what legitimately 74 so 10 years and i mean he'd already been a phenomenon in the carolina since 77 i guess it was they started pushing him he at that point had already had the first few rivalries with flair but was one of the best in-ring performers in the business had again become one of the top box offs attractions in the carolinas had worked on georgia television had made shots out in various places had been to japan and was highly thought of had set the attendance record he and young blood against steamboat and kernel or steamboat slaughter and kernodal in greensboro so in-ring talent personality box office and you know he's gonna have a run in the w w f and then he's gonna come back and have the greatest series of matches of all time with rick flair in the next five years so yeah he's he's a check mark and of course he would be wrestling at various points in 84 he would also retire for a bit in 84 but still one of the best in the business turning 35 in february the nwa world champion nature boy rick flair do you think we should give him a check do you think uh i mean we can't even we don't even need to do the bio do we well you know the the question i'll ask you is he 35 already here at what point do you think rick flair was a hall of famer he's a clear hall of famer by 89 but at what point was it yeah he's an all-timer would it it would wind him he's drawing at the gate he's performing in the ring the promos of tbs his ratings are through the roof at that point by 86 wouldn't you think i was even wondering if it's a if it's before then i mean he's the last touring nwa champion and everywhere he goes does big not everywhere i mean canza city didn't do big business but yeah yeah business is up everywhere when he comes into town well but i mean we were thinking of it that way when when he came to you know mid-south in 84 and was like i want you guys to come to the carolina's work for jimmy crocket we're like holy shit this is the guy here but i didn't know whether the fans viewpoint because we were close to the situation whether it had caught up or not but it has to be between 84 and 86 that there's no doubt at that point what's going on well no doubt he is on the list jim you brought this man up before turning 39 in march ron garvin and here's another thing hit ronnie garvin was four years older than flair and everybody's went oh that garvin's too old for the title in 88 or seven or whatever it was because garvin had started jesus christ he'd been in the business for 20 years in 1984 because i think he started when he was like 19 so already i talked about the push where the garvin brothers were a top heal team in all the southern territories georgia florida tennessee and then he had gone to noxville as a single and the one-man gang ronnie garvin first is a heal and then later on is that gimmick hacksaw dug in kind of babyface was the top one of the top guys in southeastern for what three or four years straight and then they fucked ron fuller over and he spent that time in exile in icw and you could argue out of all the guys that jumped you know and did everything against ron fuller and the nwa office he was the most important one he was the biggest star yeah he he was the babyface he was the guy not that's how they were able to pull that because ronnie garvin was the guy not a member of the family as if ron or robert or the jimmy golden the cousins whatever bob armstrong was an honorary member of the family he was the guy that got over and then he ended up trying to steal the territory that's why they never wanted guys outside the family to get over but he also got out of there quickly because he was a legitimate talent whereas some of the other guys weren't going to go very far and savage hadn't proven himself anywhere yet ronnie had been around and and promoters liked him and he could work his ass off one of the best workers in the business so that's why he was able to get out of there before it crashed and go back to georgia and etc um but those matches with he and flair because flair loved garvin loved it rough and violent and legitimate and flair loved to have a match that you couldn't see through so if those tv matches or the house show matches they had if you go back it looks like these two guys are trying to fucking gouge each other's eyes out and they're hitting each other so hard you can tell they're taking you know layers of skin off their chest flair had a tube of antibiotic skin ointment that he had to put on his chest every night after the matches with garvin because to keep from getting infected because garvin had chopped the entire top layer of his chest off just night after night and they wouldn't it's like wahoo they wouldn't lighten up but to people are like fuck those guys are mad like steve kerlin nelson royal turned it up a couple notches so anyway um we're talking the list we're talking the list ah let's give him a question mark because he's he's already done a lot and he's got a few more things to do that decade and he's in georgia he's a star in georgia at the beginning of 84 but he's about to go to the carolinas and get he and windham were a top tag team and then he had to run with the belt and run with flair and blah blah blah so yeah all right question mark jim turning 35 in august stan hanson i think he's automatically got to get a check yeah i think so uh but again he's been in the business for 10 years they they broke him and brody in at the same time in the old magurg territory louisiana in mississippi and and the guys that they had to work with were just dying because these two monsters were just beating the shit out of them but within a couple of years he already had that spot with bruno in the w w f and you know turned a negative into a positive when he accidentally hurt bruno and broke his neck but they got to be on the shea stadium card with ali and inoki and that's what saved the ali and inoki closed circuit in the northeast because bruno and hanson the revenge match drew such big houses uh they were the only ones that didn't die ever at georgia died tennessee died all the other closed circuit showings i think chicago sucked too but the northeast because of bruno and hanson that worked and then within what a year or two he's in japan and then he's just his stand's gotta he's gotta have a check bethany well again we're talking 1984 tim and brody as a team in all japan absolutely and he's one of the best and he's one of the biggest stars in japan absolutely all right jim yes turning 33 in september the fabulous one steve kern who we've been talking about so much lately uh kern same thing he he was of of the florida class of all of mike graham's contemporaries that he went to school with and and they had used steve at the start that's why he had that aggressive and realistic wrestling style but still to say the movement's all his own but he was kind of plain straight ahead steve kern good guy until he got to tennessee and they showed him how to throw a little showbiz in and he got the fab's gimmick but as far as being used in florida he and mike graham were a top babyface tag team he'd been used as a singles champion for different belts tv titles etc in florida and georgia i think had i think he had worked the carolina's on the middle maybe by that point but then when he came to tennessee in 81 he became a top babyface as himself first and the fans took to him not the level of luller dundy valiant or dutch or whatever but they took to him but then the fab's gimmick started in september of 82 and from then on they were a phenomena and especially in tennessee they you know i think what did they leave for verne in 84 oh yeah or 85 it was 84 84 is the year the new fabulous ones so yeah that's right and what happened was they were doing you know big business and i say that the fab's never sold out memphis like luller did the fab's drew especially in louisville and nashville and the other places besides memphis and they did well in memphis people loved them in memphis but they never had the big match like luller did that would sell the coliseum out but for that period of time from september of 82 until whatever point early 84 they were without doubt the most popular baby faces that they'd had in some time even dundy had been there for a while and had been back and forth as you know toward the end there is a a heal and then switched back and handsome jimmy was just in and out but the fab's were steady and they drew especially at the spot shows they drew big crowds but they even though i think they ended up on a 1500 a week guarantee and they were splitting sometimes up to four thousand dollars a week in pictures and t-shirts so it was a ridiculous amount of money for the tennessee territory at that point but verne could get them into the denver's and the mini apolises and the place where you got you know a thousand or fifteen hundred two thousand dollar payoff in one night each and so they made that move and it hurt everybody because jaret tried to make eddie gilbert and tommy rich the new fabs when fargo said well kerlin kerlin lane went off and didn't do what i told him to they left all of you people in tennessee so i got these new boys and that didn't work and meanwhile verne didn't understand the not only the fabulous ones gimmick but he also there was no there was no jackie fargo in the awa to introduce the fabulous ones and give them a reason for being because so they really should have been heels and then they're working with the road wars that are heels for verne but the people are cheering him his baby faces so the fabs in the awa didn't work out but still you know kern doesn't he doesn't get a top 20 check because again flair steamboat dusty andre etc but he can't base it on top of things at that point again i don't think he would be on it for 84 but i don't think you could base it on who's there or who would be there it has to be on the actual person's year well he didn't have as good at 84 as dusty or fucking fire or steamboat away and all these other people either that's what i'm saying all right well jim turning 31 in december tatsumi fuji nami and boy now here's the thing we do not have on this list the entire new japan and all japan rosters or this would be an even lengthier and a whole different kettle of fish but because fuji nami would travel to the united states especially whenever anoki came over or fuji nami had shots in the garden and the northeast at various points in the early 80s so he kind of qualifies for both places and while i will i'll violate my rule here one of my rules that he couldn't cut a promo for the united states of america but in japan in 1984 and really from what 79 80 maybe through the mid 80s fuji nami was one of the best guys in the business through at least the last day they happened to be in through at least the late 80s yeah he just happened to be in japan so i'm going to give fuji nami a check mark all right i agree because big matches featured as a main eventer great performer jim this next man would turn 30 in 1984 and you would spend the latter half of the year around him head db asi oh boy here you go i think ted's got to get a check because especially at this point in time he's been working for at least 10 years i think over 10 years at that point from the time he first broke in he had the advantage and sometime the curse of all the best trainers because everybody the funks and murdoch family everybody knew his dad and so they went out of their way when he got started and again the second generation name you know opens up some doors but it also increases expectations but teddie by you know the middle part of the 70s they were using him in the magirk territory and watts on and off for the next 10 years even before watts started mid south when he was still working for booking for magirk love ted db asi and teddy said one time he was there in mid south for so long without getting out and taking a break that his hair started falling out but at this point he had been on georgia television he'd had a run up in the w w f he'd had what was the the north american title he had up there before the intercontinental title that's right was that what it was i was 78 ish he had been considered one of the three guys that might be the next n w way world champion at one point and it went to flare um i think and then he's he's not even the million dollar man yet and he's going to have a hell of a run after that so i think and let's let's talk 84 big star in georgia on national tv returns the mid south big angle with jim dougan getting bloodied up in the parking lot you don't see it yeah you just see db asi return and tell you about it big he will run that's his 84 i think he's got a check i think so too jim also turning 30 in january tully blanchard who talent wise tully was right up there with db asi he could talk his ass off the cocky little prick that he was he was a tremendous worker in a believable style that partially made up for his lack of size because he was so aggressive um he had never had the opportunity to really be featured as a regular main event or any place besides san antonio because his father was the promoter until 84 i was about to say it was at 83 maybe but when san antonio started sucking hind tit as we used to say about down south that's when he actually got out and went to work for crocket and you think about this 84 85 86 87 telly blanchard had an incredible run for jim crocket and an 88 ended in 88 when he went to the w w f they spent one year there and his career was over so telly's have had a great and would a great 84 and would go on to have the best years of his life but he's only got five more years in his whole fucking career that's a that's a shame when you think about it because he's in 84 he's what he's been working did he start in 75 i think maybe 76 whatever he's been working about seven or eight years and he's only got five more to go i let's put a question mark okay i would consider him because he may be the highlight of 1984 mid atlantic tv which was a year of transition from everything in 83 to dusty roads is booking he got a big push he's one of the highlights his matches were good good promo but again we'll uh talk about it when we review the question marks jim also turning 30 at the beginning of 84 masa fuchi we're old pal uh and the reason he's on this list is because he was in america at this point uh they sent fuchi and onita the onita to america in what 81 and they worked as a tag team in florida then they came to tennessee and they worked here tojo managed them they had the two pillow concession stand brawl number three and then what was he still here or had he just gone back because they went i think he may have gone back i think they went to the maghurt territory after they were here and then i think that's when the 84 they went back and onita would end up over the next year or two getting a push as the new junior heavyweight for baba but then he hurt his knees and couldn't do his shit anymore and had to come back later on with the whole frontier martial arts thing but masa fuchi nice guy and good solid worker and had incredible longevity but on this list i don't think he has anything to really to crow about all right jim at least a few more here today turning 31 in july billy jack bennett jack hains baby and again he wasn't hains yet though was he well i'm just i'm just saying that because i like the way it flows off my dusty tongue you know there's there's so many names that are household names that had already been so experienced and it had been used in a variety of places here's a guy who really was kind of hidden because he started late at an older age and had only been in the business a couple of years at this point had been in florida and portland because he's from that neck of the woods and was about to at the end of the year go to dallas very briefly and then would start his on and off relationship with don owens and the promoter there and start in his own business and running his own self out of the wrestling business so when i did the dark side of the ring deal on him we said he made an incredible impact wherever he went because of just his striking visual look and just the the sight of the guy and and he could do shit in the ring you know for a guy that size but except for being iconic for that run in portland before he got too big for his britches he really would only drop in someplace every once in a while stay for a very short period of time get crossways with him and be gone and the same thing happened dusty liked him brought him to the carolinas in what 85 and he wasn't there very long so an interesting asterisk but you can't really put him on this list as being one of the top guys you know it's crowded and he was in and out so much he'd be on this list of pwi was the ones putting it together yes jim 33 in december ricky choshu who and this is the year he jumps to all japan with his stable yes and also again we were trying to say i said with fuji nami well he counts because he made shots in america and he was just such a tremendous in-ring performer i don't think choshu was the performer that fuji nami was but he may have been more influential in their business over there because of the position he was put in and the way he was able to make the jump but did he ever really make any shots here at all i think in 87 or 8080 work for verne and vegas for a tape i'm serious it almost sounds like a fucking national lampoon movie working for verne and vegas i mean if this was a list of influential japanese wrestlers he would knock everybody but probably hogan and hanson off the the list already but for the kind of sort of motif we were going for is this is america and not worldwide he ain't he ain't got it all right wow you're not putting ricky choshu i would probably either put him on my list or my question mark list for 84 well but see that but it's a different it's kind of a different list because we we said at the top this we didn't encompass the world of mexico and and you know johnny st and steve right and big daddy aren't on here and so how how far are we going with this how geographically well jim just so we could try to get a few more names in today before we wrap up this segment and move on to modern wrestling talk a few more names here today pretty sure these will be rather quick turning 39 in march sd jones do you know i saw at the best match that sd jones ever had no for whatever reason in 1976 a guy popped up on the card at the luible gardens named rosie jones and rosie i believe was because that's a gimmick he was used at that time was short for roosevelt but the point is they booked rosie jones versus jerry lawlor and i'm like what the i've never heard of this fucking guy sat there and what this was before i was even a photographer sat there and watched the match and rosie jones became my favorite wrestler because apparently they had the thought of making him a top baby face or at least somebody was going to be used for a while and because he was black memphis always liked black baby faces that's why zulu had three was on top of three sellouts whether he drew him or not um and lawlor had a match with him to make him look like he was the god and just every he got over like crazy the people practically gave him a standing ovation it was exciting and we're like where'd this guy come from and then he was in a territory i think about another off the top of my head two or three weeks and middle card matches and we never saw him again so i don't know what to fuck happen but no sd jones doesn't go on the list as a best 20 in their 30s turning 33 in may mark rollerball roco and see you prick because well i said i just said we aren't doing the whole world a sport roster and here mark roco whether japan or britain i completely different style he was the black tiger against tiger mask in new japan in what 83 ish uh i loved his the way the style and the way he worked i've never heard him cut a promo uh he completely unknown in the united states at this time completely nobody would have fucking been able to identify him in a police lineup but he was over in as i said in england and had a gimmick that he was over in japan and i loved his work but i don't think he fits this list and adrian street said just a fantastic worker and he had large boils or zits of some kind all over his body and adrian hated to work with him all right well that's uh mark rollerball roco not on your list jen the boiler maker a couple more here today and then we'll pick up next time yes turning 33 in february dos caris again if you're looking for a lucha libre list he would be high on it he was featured as mascaras his brother he was featured from jesus christ the time he got in the business in the early 70s uh he also had had runs in texas and california so he did work some in this country and a you know if you probably in the mid to late 70s asked the average magazine reading wrestling fan named three mexican wrestlers they'd go mil mascaras dos caris and el solitario uh but not on your list i don't think so turning 37 in march wow i didn't realize he was that old killer con boy he was again a great heel uh in a variety of the territories and great gimmick and he got the credit for breaking andre's ankle and what's his fucking what's the name he worked at in japan or was am i thinking of someone else uh but anyway uh i don't he was never except for the andre run he was never like a guy that was featured in the main events of a major territory all on his own was he was in groups in florida georgian things uh again good worker does he stand out in this crowded field 84 is the year he has the match with terry gordy and dalis all right was it dalis or was it fort worth well he has the match with terry gordy in texas and world class and it's one of the best matches of the year he's one of the central figures in the babyface turn of the free birds well that's true he just kind of wandered into that though didn't he all right so not on your list for 1984 i don't have a question mark question mark but we already have a pretty full list and a pretty full question mark list and we will finish it up go go one more go one more because i i've tickled at this all right i want to hear you say it one more turning 37 in january from the sheep herders luke williams 37 i had to so people don't think i'm crazy or maybe you already have that assumption but because of this that was the when the sheep herders would cut promos when luke was partners with jonathan boyd and they came to tennessee jonathan boyd was cutting the whole promo while luke just stood behind him and made the weird crazy faces and then jonathan boyd jonathan boyd would say and mate let me tell you we've been champions in 37 bloody countries and in luke would tell me 37 and every once in a while we'd be at a spot show and if somebody had been outside they'd come in if luke would say how's the house mate how many people we got out there it's 37 uh but i just wanted to hear the 37 i love luke williams to death but uh and again he never looked young did he because he sweet william with crazy nick carter who became butch luke and butch uh they always looked old and weird and crazy but they'd been uh at 84 luke had been in the business almost 20 years at that point because the the um royal kangaroos he was in that with with boyd right it was boyd and butch and boyd and luke at various times and then they became the kiwi sheep herders and then the sheep herders but nevertheless they'd been a team since the early 70s so another experienced guy but no i don't think unfortunately as a single and on his own he can make the crowded field well there it is jim that is our look today part two of trying to put together the top 20 in their 30s for 1984 we'll pick up next time and boy this is a crowded list because oh yeah we got more people coming up stop being a spoiler why do you keep spoiling everything for because i'm saying it's it's insane that there's this list of 70 80 guys that are all hall of famers that are all in their 30s and brian i tell you what the thing about it is the guys in the 80s a lot of them didn't take care of their money ever you ever had a bag flip a bag flip what's that have you have you ever had a bag flip is this some kind of perverted thing that you guys used to do back in the day no this is not this is not the the dirty sanchez type of item it's a bag flip that's what kevin sullivan used to call it when back in the 80s for some reason right before the fanny packs and then the fanny packs carried on this tradition but guys in the wrestling business i saw it in louisiana then there was still the days in charlotte the guys that would start making money when they're young and they're start getting all this gold jewelry and they're start carrying cash around with them they got those bank bags the zipper bank this is first national banks got a zipper on it that businesses would put deposits in and they were carrying those around as wallets a bank bag like advertising here i have valuable shit because they're not only young and have a lot of fucking money but they're also wrestlers and they want to fucking show off but those bags they're hard to keep track of when you're distracted when you're doing something you're see you're working out you're sitting down at the restaurant you're taking a shit then you set your shit down and some hand comes underneath from the other stall and boom and you got your pants around your ankles that was at least a cover story of more than one wrestler and kevin selvi got to the point where guys just at random would be sitting somewhere locker room or in the fucking airport and they would jump up and look left and look right and then they'd grab their bag because they had a bag flip that's what kevin call it when they realized oh shit where's my bag and yet it was a goddamn horrible way to live a horrible way to live these people were tortured brian i'm telling you they were tortured you've never heard of the bag flip i hadn't this is an unexpected run in here the top 20 in their 30s for 1984 kevin sold it it reminded me and see here's the thing because i me when stace and i used to travel down the highways and byways we'd stop at a gas station or a fast food place or what a rest stop and we get back in the car and i'd pull out and see i didn't like to stick my big old fat wallet with all of the stuff that i'd accumulated in it in my back pocket and then drive because i'm sitting there on it it's like sitting on a baseball what the fuck i would put it in the console of my vehicle but then i'd five miles down the road or whatever i would suddenly think wait a minute did i do that because i can't feel it i can't see it and i would lift the lid of the console there so i could make sure and stacy you're you're having a bag flip and it's a very troubling thing you know how you can solve this problem brian oh i don't know i don't know anything about what's going on no you don't have any idea what's happening in the world around you our friends over at ridge the ridge wallet it solves the bag flip because whereas a bank bag was so big and bulky and showy and if you're just a regular jackoff walking down the street you got one of those somebody's gonna hit you over the head and steal it and those wallets that we used to have back in the old days the old cow hide leather and the big it turns into a goddamn giant brick that you've got folded up and stuffed in your pants and as a result either it looks like you're you're throwing your sacroiliac off or more importantly you've got some kind of boil or goiter that needs to be lanced and drained on your body somehow you don't want to look like you'll never get laid like that people studies have shown that women do not give blowjobs to guys that have large pus filled goiters there are no studies we know of so let's not quote any studies that don't exist and i i don't even know why this would be a study why don't we get away from this i think is the but here's the thing you don't want to do all that you want the ridge wallet because it's a unique slim and modern design i have one in my hand right here and it is this is indestructible you can run over it with a car you could you could probably take a hammer to it and and nothing would be damaged because it it's just it's made out of titanium aluminum aluminium and carbon fiber so i carbon you could i think you could set this on fire too if you were lost in the jungle and heat yourself from it but never the last i don't think that's one of the features for the 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they were in berlin in berlin they were in because stuttgart was booked that's how i learned geography from the global geography from the hometowns of all of the foreign menace heels that were in wrestling baron von raschke was from stuttgart germany fukin i haven't called off was from Moscow Russia was there ever a wrestler from greenland oh not off the top of my head that i could think of one but there must have been someone but you're right about that that's something that's pretty much gone right now it used to be especially for america if you were a kid and you watch wrestling you would learn geography before all of your friends you would know the math you would know the states and the big cities in the states before everyone but it was a simpler time back then now the kids can look anything up that means they don't know anything and they never look anything up they just don't bother to learn it because they know they can look it up anyway they were in berlin and they're back to three hours and just to be perfectly honest with you i'm going to tell you what we're not going to talk about here at the top of this so we can get to the big news the big main event the big earth shaking cataclysmic godzilla sized surprise title change on the television they're in i know they're in berlin and those people are going to like anything because it's it's the international audience syndrome where they don't get to see this live and in person some people probably that were there the first time in their lives but not often in their markets so they're naturally forgiving but they've gone back to three hours and this is what they gave us before the main event started trick williams versus ray phoenix about that that was after trick interrupted randy orton's promo so orton beat him up and then miss jumped orton and orton beat him up too and that was that sounds more exciting than it was trick williams and and ray phoenix trick tricked him we got alexa bliss against julia and then boy i'll tell you what old lash legend she may have opened a branch of fucking frigid air next to nea jacks because if nea is the the refrigerator i think lash is the freezer with apologies to freeser thompson from the old memphis tv uh they're pretty comparable in in size i think lash has got an inch or two and they beat up alexa bliss it looked like two parade balloons beating up a barbie doll so i felt sorry for her and that was the first hour of the show at nine o'clock we got solo and all of the tongas against the white and all of the six and i this is this is a daew type presentation here the painted faces and the fucking halloween mass and everything and then we were at 930 then we got alba fire against jordan grace and carmelo haze in a long match against shaky nakamura and we were at 1015 that two hours and 15 minutes for what basically what i described and the intermittent travel log commercial spot plug billboard backstage update that it takes up the rest of the time and then there's codie in the back and he does a little pre-match promo about drew may have dusty's watch and last week he may have burned a picture of me and dusty or whatever but that's lazy drew because dusty doesn't make the comeback i make the comeback it was kind of like the modern day version of dusty saying well i could do no jobs in front of 70 000 people in the super dome and then after this of course i'm looking forward to the royal rumble and wrestle mania hey if you don't mind let me ask you a couple questions before we get into the main event match here one actually just a statement i will say and i could not blame you for not wanting to watch him against nakamura carmelo haze is on a string of having some good matches they gave him a long time but the show is now three hours and yes i'm happy for him secondly with the codie mac and tire main event the three different stipulations for the three different falls of a two out of three fall match technically obviously when cactus jack and eddie gilbert did it for joel goodheart it was spread throughout the night they did it all in one lump at the end of the show after having to sit through everything do you think they should have split it up so that it started with that maybe around the nine o'clock hour is the second match and then you end with it well see that's what i was thinking also and for people who don't know because we're just assuming these young whipper snappers one of the big independent promotions of the early 90s was the joel goodheart's trastate wrestling in philadelphia this was pre ec w and they had the they booked the the show with cactus jack and eddie gilbert to have a two out of three match series where they didn't they didn't phrase it exactly like they did with codie and drew here they told people ahead of time we have three different matches one match is going to be the one stipulation and what were they do you remember them off top of your head they ended up in the barbed wire right barbed wire was i believe the last one one of them was either falls count anywhere or no dq i think falls count anyway so it was a falls count anywhere it was a barbed wire match and it was some other stipulation and like you said they did the first first match at the first of the show and then gave them matches in between so they could rest because they had full fucking matches and i was there again i don't have in front of me what the time on every match was but they were full matches of at the time was normal to be between 10 and 20 minutes and were you there that night lives unfortunately i was not i wish i was but nevertheless um you know they they they and i mean that was the one where cactus had told eddie break the bottle over my head and they didn't bake it he thought that he just but eddie was really trying to to work it and that just makes it worse because then he just was bap bap and you heard the clonk clonk on cactus's head oh god damn it um but anyway that that was what they did there i i can see the argument that it would have been better here on this three hour television program to spread them out go a little bit longer in at least the first one we'll get to my breakdown here in a second but they wouldn't have been able to do the match like this that they wanted to have because each finish led into the other one and there was a reason why that at the end of fall two before the cage lowered that you know drew had to be down where he could be trapped and blah blah blah so what they did here flowed from one thing to the other they would have had to done different finishes and it again i think it might have helped the viewership because it would build more drama where we want to see how this is going to turn out and they've sprinkled it through the show but it also might have made it more difficult for the participants to come up with some shit to do the again because again it amounts to they had three well they had a regular match and two what used to be blow off matches falls count anywhere and inside a state of cage and then they still had a fuck finish so i mean the modern booking it's not as easy as it used to be it was to in in the 80s a lot of times we didn't like two out of three fall matches just regular two out of three fall matches because the people didn't see that many of them anymore and so a lot of times they didn't understand it you know they didn't understand it you know they would say the you know the big pop would be on the first fall because they thought that's it oh there's two more and it it was awkward trying to get three finishes you know out of a an angle match in the same night blah blah blah but i'm droning on point is what they did with this was just immediately one went into the other and did you notice that they have brackets when they because they couldn't lower the cage in the old days they had nobody had that budget when they lower that fucking cage there's those brackets right by the apron the box like metal things that the cage anchors into and boy howdy a guy trying to take a bump through the ropes or off the apron and not being used to those being there i was that was making me nervous the whole time because that could fuck you up and that's just you know anyway it's not a an issue when the cage is in place because you you couldn't fuck yourself up but you could while they're bumping with that shit already there uh oh and one more thing brown before we get to this deal is tony con book and smackdown now have we heard this on the what makes you say that well next week in london they're gonna have four qualifying matches and the four winners of those matches are gonna have a four way it's saturday night's main event with the winner of that getting a title shot at the royal rumble you know before tony con existed as a wrestling booker if you think of all the things we were complaining about with wwe and vince mcman deserves the lion's share of the blame because he was in charge and people were writing to please him and if it wasn't something that pleased him you'd have to go rewrite it the day of the show whatever it may be but it's the same people it's bruce pritchard it's ed cosky it's triple h it's road dog it's all the same crew michael haze it's the same bunch of people and that's why it's starting to feel more and more like the same old show just with lee fitting producing it the backstage segments they're turning back into what they used to be just ignore the camera right in front of you and have these personal conversations when things are hot you get away with it they did things aren't that hot anymore in terms of at least the feeling around the tv and certainly the ratings seem to reflect that while we hear about these shows it's not a good show there's a reason triple h his booking was rejected by the south korean wrestling fans i think more and more you're hearing people fed up with the way wwe tv is being done right now well but here's the thing it's not even necessarily the booking or confined to the booking or the booking being the biggest part of it it's that they're doing the same thing they're in a they're in a habit they're in a rut they're in a in not only the multiple man matches over and over and the tropes as the kids call them now that they have started within 10 or 15 years ago or whatever a lot of this stuff that now they just keep doing it because they don't remember how they used to do it before they started doing that but now if they would do that it would look so much fresher but there there used to be some element of we're going to have a new set for the show we're going to have a new fucking look for the show leaf fitting brought a lot of new production in and it looks so much better than the kevin done days but the what they're shooting it still kind of looks the same and they do it all the same and the music gets cued the same way and when they it just they need to break some of these you know it's just over and over they need to break some of these patterns but having said that finally two hours and 22 minutes into the show we the main event here comes drew that here comes cody and they have the introductions and they ring the bell it's 10 30 and the last hour is commercial free so okay they're gonna they're gonna go a while well the regular match was first and it started hot cody's on fire and drew tried to get cody to get disqualified at one point but cody wouldn't fall for it but he was still kicking drew's ass and all over him and drew mac and tire for a guy that size he knows how to sell as a heel and cody germany boom and he went to germany again later on and drew was holding on and he pulled the turnbuckle pad off and as the referee grabbed it was going to try to replace it drew kick cody in the balls and hit him with a claymore boom one two three in four minutes okay that was my favorite part of this whole goddamn match was when they were actually in the ring having a match without cages or notice qualifications or whatever the fuck I could have taken some more of that but basically that would drew fucks the baby face in a straight match where you know it's the old jerry jaret principle when everybody's dream match backfired they would have thought that the baby face would win the straight wrestling match so drew cheats and wins that's fine but now they got the false can anywhere but before we talk about that what did you think about the little mini movie trailer of a match that they did here I was all right I guess I don't know this whole thing rubbed me the wrong way well that that's what you said the problem is that massage parlor in bergen you know what the problem is honestly the results got out before it aired so I didn't go into this fresh the results came out a few hours before this aired so I knew where it was going because it was unavoidable and I know the european fans love their wrestling but god damn it stay off the internet for a few hours until it airs in the states unless of course you have a surf shark and you're in canada but that's the problem I knew where it was going so it was hard for me to enjoy it you see you ought to be more like me and not give a shit about anything and I didn't I didn't even know they were in Berlin and didn't know the show happened before it happened and didn't even watch the goddamn thing until the following morning which was just a few hours ago but that's the thing it was just say it was okay I'd like to see some more of this and it was over but then became the false can anywhere and immediately they drew pulls out a table and power bombs Cody threw the table on the floor and gets a two count I'm like Christ here we go and they fought in the entrance way and all around ringside and over the rail into the people and once again it took a long time it's not like it was as exciting as this they tried they were working hard it wasn't silly in terms of like one of the aew type of walk fights around the arena but it was it was a walk fight around the arena into the stands the standard shit they go into the back of the arena and fight there they you know rattle each other off the garage doors then they go back into the arena where they're wasting some time and Cody ran drew into the bleachers and put him on a table and climbed up went up to the top of the breezeway archway there and jumped off the bleachers and splashed him through the table and got a two count and then they went back to ringside and drew hitting with a chair a couple times and Cody cleared the desk off and crossroads as as as is him crossroads them through the desk one two three and that was an eight minute match and they never used the ring and now I'm like I'm like you were earlier I get kind of now they've lost my interest it's all this by the number of well here's the spot where we go and fight on the steps and here's where we go back in the back and rattle each other off the garage door and here's where we get fucking same shit that every Gibroni does in every goddamn indie match yeah that's the problem too even the stuff that a few years back would have been the spectacular thing we've seen that a bunch of times Cody climbing up and jumping off we've seen that exact spot from other people in both companies before well yeah but besides that it that's what it is it's a spot it's five seconds he jumped off the balcony and splashed him through the fucking table and it wasn't even the finish but it's five seconds it took him eight minutes of wandering around the goddamn arena to see that I don't care I was enjoying them exhibiting their talents in the fucking standard wrestling ring that we don't see often enough but at least then as I was saying that flowed into the next thing because now Drew is down so Cody can drag him back into the ring and roll him in and the cage can lower so that the heel is stuck and they're one in one and but now they've started the cage matches we got 15 minutes on the air they start the cage match in the middle where they're trying to start climbing or getting out or whatever and they're back and forth and at least the people now because they know well this one's the one so Drew started getting some heat and get some two counts and then Cody hit a crossroads and got a big pop for a two count and you know hit a cutter and a couple of crossroads is and drew gouge the eyes and then Cody dove it drew but hit the unpadded buckle and drew hit the claymore and got a two count I'm like son of a bitch that was a world title change finish the babyface champion has hit his finish twice and is going for the third but the heel gouges his eyes and when the blind babyface charges the heel he moves and the babyface hits the buckle that the heel had taken the pad off of earlier and then the heel hits his finish that's the world title that if they wanted to if they want to drew McIntyre to be a goddamn star that's what they would have done do you see what I'm DAD hear me what I'm telling you yeah and again this is another one of those things that we see all the time now how many matches even matches you don't like how many matches have the perfect finish the perfect finish and then they just keep going another 10 minutes yes yes so instead that's a two count they both sell they fight on top of the cage uh Cody kind of does a cutter off the cage two count but it didn't land lovely and they both crotch themselves on the top rope trying to climb out of the cage and then drew is crawling for the door and there's a hooded figure and it it's Jacob Fattu and they stare at each other and then drew runs from him like a scene of ghost and tries to climb out and Jacob gets in the ring again huh right in front of the referee which of course it's no disqualification but you didn't use to have to worry about somebody interfering in front of the referee at a cage match because you can't interfere to cage match because the door shouldn't be open this bogus has wwf escape the cage shit but normally you would be locked in the in the fucking cage and if the guy did interfere if the referee got knocked down maybe somebody climbs in whatever the fuck but now he's just in the ring beating up one of the people in the match in front of the referee and then when Cody see wait about what the fuck he spins Fattu around and Jacob lays into Cody and beats him up and while he's doing that drew crawls out the door and is the new champion and ding ding ding and then drew's in the entrance way with the belt you know with laying there selling and but you know happy or whatever and Jacob is staring at him and Cody comes from behind and just gives Fattu like a weak shove into the cage and Fattu sells it goes down like he's knocked out and then Cody just has to stare there so why why would you build this guy up as being the monster that just caused the title change hands and then Cody knocks him out with a two-handed shove from behind I don't I don't know what the fuck uh I know obviously Jacob is a babyface and that's going to be drew's probably first program here and Cody ain't gonna be happy about all of this but Jesus Christ on a cracker I think it'd been if they wanted to put the belt on drew they did the perfect finish for it here that the heat would go all on drew but they didn't capitalize on that and now I'm not sure how does drew have any heat out of this he crawled out with by the skin of his teeth while one of the babyfaces was beating up one of the other babyfaces you're assuming that Jacob Fattu's still a babyface well why the fuck wouldn't he beat up Cody Rhodes he cost Cody Rhodes the belt but here's when last we saw him was he not a babyface that everybody was cheering for because he's the wild fucking smo and werewolf that gets over when he comes back and the thing is Cody spun him around like what are you doing and he fucking starts fighting Cody but then he when he turns around and sees that drew's gone that's his focus but then if they're gonna turn the guy heel then would Cody have just shoved Jacob and Jacob take a bump and lay out or would Cody have spun him around again and this time Jacob gets some goddamn heat on the vulnerable babyface champion that's just been fucked so regardless of what they're doing was this a shitty finish I wasn't crazy about it I mean I guess in terms of the drew McIntyre storyline of always getting cheated and ripped off by everyone the company and Roman Reigns and CM Punk and Cody Rhodes he finally got one you just said that when we reviewed the fact that he won most underrated and most pitiful in the South Korea wrestling awards you said he's got a win one I don't mind being I don't mind being underrated but when people think I'm pitiful you said he's got a win one he's got a win one and now he's got it by Hooker by Crook he got it Billy Graham had his feet on the ropes you know he got the belt and now we'll see where they go I mean I'm not excited about the prospect of a three-way feud with Cody and McIntyre and Fatou I'm not excited about another Royal Rumble that Cody would have to win to get a title shot but again you have elimination chamber two right around the corner we'll see will drew McIntyre be the champion at WrestleMania will be the champion when they leave Europe we'll see what they do there but uh uh uninspired finish I guess maybe it felt uninspired that might be more than shitty more way a better way to describe it uninspired just all the stuff that always happens well there it is new champion now CM Punk world champion in one on one show and drew McIntyre the champion on the other we'll see what happens there and Cody Rhodes his title reign is over and we'll see what happens there and Jacob Fatou is back and he's got Austin Theories Hood we'll see what happens there we'll see what happens on SmackDown over there we're gonna see all the things that happen and that's you know that what's that phrase I just came up with all the things that always happen that's what this show is about we talk about all the things that always happen and there'll be more of that coming up on the drive-thru uh in just a few days and then of course the experience again here next week and Brian is there anything that you'd like to leave the fine cult of cornered audience with before we sign off for this week uh we'll talk to you on the drive-thru guess the program retro figures questions and much more and of course we'll continue the top 20 in their 30s for 1984 and until then in the meantime and in between times thank you thank you bye bye everybody