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Paul Rudd on Why Jack Black is The Best, Worst Auditions, Chiefs Fandom & Naming Your Nuts | EP 171

49 min
Dec 22, 20255 months ago
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Summary

Paul Rudd returns as a guest to discuss his new film Anaconda with Jack Black, shares stories about his early career and audition mishaps, and plays a fantasy football game with the Kelce brothers. The episode covers his journey from making home videos to Hollywood, his admiration for Jack Black, and various personal anecdotes about his career.

Insights
  • Collaborative creative partnerships can form organically through mutual respect and phone conversations, as demonstrated by Rudd and Black's role-swapping decision without consulting the director
  • Early creative experiences like making home videos with friends provide foundational skills and confidence for professional entertainment careers
  • Maintaining authentic energy and personality throughout a long career requires genuine passion for the craft rather than manufactured personas
  • Personal connections and naming rights (like naming body parts after friends) create memorable marketing moments and strengthen business relationships
  • Fantasy football scoring heavily favors running backs and wide receivers over tight ends, making position selection strategy critical
Trends
Meta-comedy films that deconstruct their source material are gaining traction in mainstream cinemaCelebrity collaborations based on mutual admiration rather than studio matching are becoming more commonNostalgia-driven creative projects (remaking childhood films) resonate with audiences seeking authentic storytellingRegional food and beverage brands leveraging celebrity endorsements through personal relationshipsFantasy sports engagement as entertainment content format for mainstream audiences
Topics
Film Production and ScreenwritingComedy Performance and Character DevelopmentCelebrity Collaboration and CastingEarly Career Development in EntertainmentAudition Techniques and Casting Director InteractionsFantasy Football Strategy and Player SelectionRegional Restaurant and Bar OwnershipCandy Retail Business OperationsChildhood Creative Projects and Home Video ProductionJack Black's Career and Performance StyleKansas City Sports FandomNFL Broadcasting and Grooming RitualsHoliday Entertainment and Seasonal Content
Companies
American Express
Sponsor providing Platinum Card membership benefits including airport lounge access and travel perks
Reese's
Sponsor promoting Reese's Trees holiday candy products as seasonal gift and entertainment companion
Gillette
Sponsor offering NFL-licensed razors and grooming tools for beard maintenance and styling
Char Bar
Kansas City restaurant owned by James Westfall, mentioned for burnt ends and wings offerings
Beer Kitchen
Kansas City restaurant group owned by James Westfall, located in Westport area
Samuel's Sweet Shop
Candy store owned by Paul Rudd featuring seasonal and specialty candies including sour Santa and cloud hoppers
People
Jack Black
Co-star in Anaconda film; discussed as comedic talent and long-time admiration subject of Paul Rudd
Jason Kelce
Co-host of New Heights podcast; former NFL player now in broadcasting with grooming rituals discussion
Travis Kelce
Co-host of New Heights podcast; Kansas City Chiefs player and podcast host conducting interview
Kevin Etten
Screenwriter of Anaconda film alongside Tom Gormican; previously wrote The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent
Tom Gormican
Co-screenwriter of Anaconda; partner with Kevin Etten on meta-comedy film projects
Nicholas Cage
Actor who starred in The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent, playing himself in meta-comedy format
Pedro Pascal
Actor in The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent playing Nicholas Cage superfan character
Steve Zahn
Actor in Anaconda playing character who is 'Buffalo sober' (beer and wine only)
Maya Rudolph
Childhood friend of Jack Black from high school; discussed in context of Black's early life
James Westfall
Paul Rudd's college roommate and Kansas City restaurant owner; had testicle named after him in Anchorman
Patrick Mahomes
Kansas City Chiefs quarterback; mentioned regarding injury recovery and team performance
Quotes
"He's like a comedy tsunami. He's a tornado of talent."
Paul RuddEarly in episode discussing Jack Black
"I'm the number one Jack Black fan. So fucking go."
Paul RuddMid-episode discussing Jack Black admiration
"He doesn't show it. He just doesn't show it. He's just kind of, he really is about laughs and a good time and rocking and rocking hard."
Paul RuddDiscussing Jack Black's energy and authenticity
"The joy and the memories and everything that the chiefs have given me with my family, with my kid. It's been an embarrassment of riches."
Paul RuddDiscussing Kansas City Chiefs fandom
"That's the most fun part of doing this is, embarrassing your friends by naming your nuts."
Paul RuddDiscussing Anchorman character detail about naming testicles
Full Transcript
One of your first jobs was as a bar mitzvah DJ. Yeah. What was on the playlist? I mean, you got shout from Animal House Classic. Ooh. A little platter. There was also... Here we come now singing Moné Moné. Here. There, there. And then all the kids, they say, Get late, get... F***ing hot. Hot of crap. Let's go. Hmm? What? Ha ha ha ha ha! What? Welcome back to New Heights, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls. A one-dry show. And we are your hosts. I'm Travis Kelsey. This is my big brother, Jason Kelsey. I had a Cleveland Heights Ohio University of Cincinnati. Grads shout out to all the bear cats out there. Um, and let's go bear cats, basketball. Come on, baby. Come on, baby. Let's go, man. Take the big 12 by storm, baby. By storm! Subscribe on YouTube, one-dry plus, wherever you get your podcast. If all is showing on social media, at New Heights Show with one S for clips throughout the week or just to catch up on all the fun, shittin' and Jason have been doin'. Jason wants to tell the people where we have comin' up this episode. Not two percent, as we got a great episode coming up. We got a great guest episode. That's right, joining us today is the first guest we ever had on the show. Yes sir. Paul Ron is here. Oh! Buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh. We're gonna talk about everything from his new movie and Akana coming out, working with the one and only Jack Black. We're also gonna find out if he knows Ball is so much more. So stick around, check it out. All right now. Here we go. In three, two, one. Hi, the guest today is an actor, producer, screenwriter from the University of Kansas. You know him from Knocksock. This is Florida. I love you, man. Acar Man Parks and Rack. White Hot American Summer and his upcoming movie and Akana. He's the guy who made Ant-Man cool, a die-hard cheese fan, and the 2021 sexiest man alive in the first ever guest on New Heights. That's right. Please welcome back, 92% of his mistress. Oh! Whoa! What? Hell yeah. Oh yeah, it's good to be back with you guys. Welcome back, my brother. Thank you for having me. It's good to see you as it's always good to see you guys. Is that true first? Yeah, you wish me a happy birthday, man. Travis Hanna birthday. Oh, I remember that. And you surprised guests. You know what I remember? The most from that? It was your birthday, trap, who were laughing. And then we started talking about our dads and we just wound up crying. Thank you, Robert. It's like having birthday and we're all bawling our heads. Thank you. Thank you. That's the best, man. That's the best, man. I felt like that's not why you wanted me on. It is. It is. It's exactly what I needed. I needed to get reminded that I have an amazing dad on my birthday. No, I had to thank him for that. This is great, man. I appreciate you coming back on. You're obviously in the middle of promoting anaconda, dude. Yeah. And the last thing, I kind of remember talking to you a little bit over the summer about this at the big slick, dude. That's right. And you were mentioning it and I was like all giddy in the seat like, get ready like, dude, you guys are really doing this? This is so fucking cool, man. You and Jack Black, everyone's always fucking love the duo of seeing you guys just interact here and there. And now they get to see it on the big screen, baby. He's the best. He's the best. He's one of one, Jack Black. He dude, unbelievable. He's multi-talented. Multi-very musical talent. Yeah. He doesn't, he's like a comedy tsunami. He's a, he's a tornado of talent. There we go. The Alliteration God. He is. He's like, that's has made him devil. I gotta know who had this idea? Where did this come from? The guy who wrote this script is getting Kevin Etten. And he wrote it with another guy. He's kind of his partner is getting Tom Gormakin. They had done another movie previous to this called The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent, which I don't, I would highly recommend this movie. It had Nicholas Cage is in it. Yes. Playing himself. And Pedro Pascal is in it playing a guy who's just really into Nicholas Cage. And it's hilarious. And it's this weird meta comedy. It's just so smart and original. And so I loved that movie. I saw it like four times. And when this script showed up, it was from these guys. I'm like, oh my God, they made that amazing movie. And I started reading and started laughing just because it's similar in that people think it's a remake of Anaconda, but it's really not. It's, it's these, these idiots that try and remake it. And so it's kind of, you know, the end of the way. Yeah. And then while we're trying to make this, you know, we're not filmmakers. We were just kids that used to make movies together because it was fun. And then we're now, you know, all old in our lives. And they haven't worked out the way we expected them to. So we kind of throw caution to the wind and try and recapture the magic and pursue our dream of finally making a movie. We're going to reboot, reimagine our favorite movie, Anaconda. And then we go down and then we start getting hunted by a real Anaconda. It's, it's epic. It's so dumb. It's epic, dude. I fucking loved every second of it, man. Absolutely. Oh, thanks, man. I gotta do. So you mentioned a bunch of, a bunch of friends that used to make movies as kids. Yeah. When you were a kid in high school and middle school, like, was there ever like a camcorder, like a house, like family camcorder that you used to, like do stuff like this in the backyard? Absolutely. Like this was, that was my favorite thing to do. I had the camera, you know, I mean, a fossil. So I had the, I had the, the camcorder that you put the videotape in the side of it and then close it. And then I would just, you know, hit the button to record. I would self edit through the camera. Through the camera. Oh, wow. I was going to say that as I edit, it stopped, stopped, stopped. And so I would, yeah, we made, I made movies with buddies mine. I did it all through college. And I thought they were so funny. And then I watch them back and it's like, these are terrible. These are terrible. These are all horrible. It's the experience though, man. You can see in your feet, what do you remember? Do you remember any of the names of the, of the movies? One of the things that I, I used to do with a buddy of mine named Guy Garvin. And we did a series of, they were, hey, Garvin. They were the, hey, Garvin series. It started where it was a, hey, Garvin tossed me a beer, would you? And he just always had a, all right. And he'd be in another room somewhere. And then he, he would throw a beer and through these cuts, it would fly around corners. And it was, you know, and then we did about 10 of them. And they just got more and more elaborate outside inside it, you know, this is gold. I asked, I asked that because Jason did the exact same thing. I knew you were going there. I knew you knew I'm going here. Jason had a, and Jason, you can go ahead and tell him the, the gist of it. But I just remembered the name of it being Ribs of Beef. That was one of the movies we made. We, I was in a satire class in high school and we like, re-imagined the Rumpel Stiltskin movie, her story as a movie about a king that just wanted KFC chicken. And somehow ribs of beef would spin something in a fried chicken. It was so stupid. Looking back, I was like, what do we do it? But I, I loved, we were the next wave of it. I would go on eye movie. I made Travis's highlight films. I would make like highlights for the team. Oh, really? I love, oh, yeah. We, we love messing around with all that stuff. It was so fun. So watching this film, like the squash portion was like so just like, oh my gosh. This is sitting home right now. Yeah. I know it's, it is a thing. I think a lot of, a lot of kids do. Yeah. That's what he did kind of growing up. Oh, yeah. And it's, you know, I definitely related to that part of the story. You know, when you're that age and you're talking to your friends like, we, we could do this. Yeah. We didn't do this. You see us on the screen? People would freak out if they saw how good these videos are that we're making. I'm really glad that they're not on on YouTube because I'm back at now. It's like these, these are on watch. That's, that was the fun of it though, because Jason's, Jason's the same way. His was on the old school like family camcorder or like the school camcorder that he used. So this is like ancient artifact. Like you, it's since somebody's parents storage that they just pop out every like few like decades. And it's just like, unless your dad records law and order over time. Which legitimately, we're family. I'll say happy video. I'll just cut to the law order and try to be like, bad. Are you so good, man? My wife was pregnant with our son, Jack, who you guys know. That's my God. Julie watch, watch is so much long order. Like it's on a loop all day, all the time. And then once, when Jack was a baby, when law and order would come on, I mean, he couldn't even walk. He's like on the couch kind of half sleeping when the don't, don't, he was just pop up. And so used to kind of when he was inside hearing that theme, it was like a dog whistle for him. So it is a catchy. It is. You wouldn't Jack Black star in this thing in terms of like how it came together for your guys as role. Did you guys come together on this? Did you take it to him? Did he take it to you? Did the writers already have this kind of like mapped out that they wanted you guys to take this role on together or what? I got sent this script and I read it and thought it was really smart and funny and hadn't really seen anything quite like it. But it was kind of still a work in progress. So I started kind of trying to work with them and kind of start to develop it a little bit more with them. They were writing it. I didn't write any of it. But we had talked about it for months and months and I was a real gung ho to do it. And something else had come up and it wasn't really set up. And then I got this message, oh Jack Black read it and he wants to do it. And I worked with Jack a couple of times but never like this. And we've done little bits in things in the past. And I really, I mean, I love Jack. He's the greatest as we all know. And so I thought, I gotta call him because if he's doing it, I really like this is, I would be so much fun. And so we were talking on the phone and we're kind of like, yeah, all right, you're going to do it. Yes. Let's do it. And we talk for like a good 15 minutes. And then he's and he goes, oh yeah. And then when you do this and this and I'm doing this and this and I realized as he say, I like, wait a minute, which part were you thinking? Thinking which I was playing the director Doug, which is, he goes, I was going to play Doug. I saw you as Griff. I said, oh, I was imagine I was talking to you. You were a Griff. I said, you were a Griff. He's like, oh, I was, uh, and I was like, mom, just play Griff. And then, really, how it happened. We just like, oh, I'll just play that part. So we made this decision, never consulting the director. Not the right thing to do. But that's how that's how it happened. And I think that we were both really excited at the idea of working together because, you know, we've talked about it for a long time and I'm the number one Jack Black fan. So so fucking go. I've always thought Jason had a little Jack Black in him. Yeah. You know, I've been a fan of Jack for a long time. Yeah. No, you guys are kind of cut from the same cloth, I think. You have, I wish I had an ounce of that guy's tail. I mean, creative. You do, you do too, Travis, there's like kind of, there's a, there's an alpha quality, but there's just like a good, there's like a good time Charlie thing built in kind of hardwired in, in you guys. And um, but Jack is on a whole other level. Like, one of the other stratus for you. I remember seeing him. He, his first movie was this movie called Bob Roberts. Okay. This is in the 90s and I went to go see it as Tim Robbins movie. And he was just, it was his first thing. He was like a small part. But I remember vividly, I'm like, who is that guy? Yeah. He's so psycho and funny and, and he, he just played a guy who's just really into the politician, Bob Roberts. And, and, and, uh, got a few weeks after I saw it, I had an audition and I went to this audition. There was like one other guy in the waiting room, waiting to audition and it was him. And, um, I was like, oh, I got completely star struck and I'm like, hey, man, um, I just saw Bob Roberts. You're the guy from Bob Roberts, right? He's like, yep. And I said, you, you were so funny in that, oh my god. And me, and I got a, we're auditioning for the same part. There's no way I'm get, get close to this thing. It's going to this talent machine. Neither one of us got the part, but, uh, that was the first time that I met him. Yeah. That was probably, God, that was 30 years ago. Yeah. He doesn't feel like he's changed either. He feels like he's the same guy, which is like impressive to like maintain that level of energy throughout your entire career. It's really wild. I mean, we, you know, to be with him and you're just kind of like out in public when people see him, they freak out. You know, it's like, it's like meeting a beetle or something. They're just, it's good to see Jack Black out in the wild. And we're going to kind of goes to over to him and talk to him. He gives them a Jack Black experience. He's just, he's just, he is, he's just pure goodness and energy. And, um, yeah, I, I, I, I love the guy. And it seems effortless, man. It just, it oozes out of a man. It's so smooth. Yeah. And, um, and, you know, I'm sure it's like, he's got insecurities, there are fears or self-conscious about, but he just, you would never know if he does. He just doesn't show it. He's just kind of, he really is about laughs and a good time and, and rocking and rocking hard because he's, if he wasn't at, he's a rock, he is a rock star. Laughs a good time and rocking is what this movie does. And it also gave us one of our new terms I had never heard. Buffalo sober. Is that a real turn? Is that, did you guys invent that? Yeah, we're set. We live in Buffalo. Um, and Steve Zahn plays guy who's maybe, maybe had wrestled with some demons. He's decided to really, he, he, he's decided to really clean up his act finally. And so I asked, are you sober? And he says, yes, but he's, he's Buffalo sober, which means just beer and wine and maybe a few, a few bite. The, the, the, why is, like, a lighter liquor? Real light. Not light, Lakers. I kind of want to go Buffalo sober. I'm, I'm kind of in the Buffalo show, but this sounds great. We were driving the director at it was crazy because every time we would do that CD, he goes, uh, Buffalo sober. And we just keep going, Buffalo sober in the heart of the man. That's great. What would the equivalent to, uh, to Kansas City sober be? What would that be? Uh, Kansas City sober, uh, just Boulevard. Nice. Just Boulevard. Nice. And regor, just Boulevard. Just Boulevard. That's right. We local brews. I'll hold it. Logan, you can only have regor when you're eating barbecue. That's right. There you go. Jason, what do you got Philly sober? I don't like there is such a thing. The citywide special, I think it's a shot at Jim Beam and a PBR, a canned PBR. Delicious. You look at the anywhere in the city you should be able to get that for like a dollar or something like that. Maybe it was two bucks. Yeah. I don't know that's still out there, but that was the citywide special for a long time. So if you're looking to get out of a hole in Philly, that's where you go. You're going to all head over to Pats, Patra Ginos, Angelo's. Jim's there's a Tony is in there too. There's a Tony Luke's I think it's called Tony Luke's. Yeah. I mean, pretty much any Italian name and put cheese thing after it. Probably cheese and Philadelphia. Yeah. We did prep some questions for Jack. Do you mind answering for him as him? Sure. Yeah. All right. What was it like to work with Paul? He sucks. Perfect. All right. Is it real? Diva. Pain in the ass. Always checking his hair. Make sure he has the most lines. I hate him. He actually wanted to play Doug. Did you tell you that? Yeah. I tried to steal my car. So, uh, Jackie went to high school with Maya Rudolph. What was that like growing up with Maya? It was incredible. She was all over me. And it was a little hard. She was always funny. I always really liked her. I would always I think it was that she would always hear me singing many ripperton songs that that her mom. And because I'm such a great singer, I was always in key and I'd hit that high C. And I don't know. It triggered something in her. And so she was just always hanging around. It got awkward all through our 20s. But we're good now. We're cool. Like your parents, Judith and Thomas were actual rocket scientists. How did they react when you told them you wanted to be an actor? They knew that I wasn't going to really be able to do much of anything else. They were just happy to kind of get me out of the house and focused on something. And so I think all I wanted to do was play video games and listen to Led Zeppelin and ACDC in my room. So when I said I wanted to do something, it honestly, it's like I could have said I wanted to be, you know, a tax collector. I wanted to be a dog walker. I want to be a danger. Yeah. Great. We support you. We do some get out. Get out of the house. We're rocket scientists. Obviously, these kinds of brains are not genetic. That was fucking perfect. Gahli, the funny is quote from my dad when I got drafted was that both my kids have a job. I've done my part. That's it. That's it. I'm the one. Thank you to our sponsor, American Express. There's nothing like going from a relaxing airport lounge doing even more relaxing hotel followed by dinner, a concert and then doing it all over again. And again, and again, and with the newly enhanced American Express platinum card membership just got a whole lot better. With MX Platinum, you can enjoy access to over 1500 and 50 airport lounges through the largest global lounge network in the world. 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I mean, those go definitely better with Reese's trees ugly sweater parties. I mean, who doesn't like chocolate stains all over their ugly sweater? I do. Skipping the ugly sweater party to watch football in your sweats instead. I mean, that's a no brainer of yes. I mean, you throw on that ugly sweater anyways. Yeah. So celebrate the season with peanut butter perfection and be sure to grab Reese's trees today. Jason wants to tell him where to get them from. What's found wherever candy is sold? Literally you can find it everywhere. I think I called you Jason. Jason. Jason. All right, Gillette. Thank you to our partner, Gillette. All right, now Jason, you've been retired for a full year. Let's talk pregame rituals. Do you miss them? Still have them? I kind of have one, I guess, for money and account. I kind of, I go to the production meeting. Then I kind of iron out what's happening in the rundown. Then I go to the makeup lady. Then I go to the hair. And then I go on set. It's just curious to see if you were putting that same game day energy into your new broadcasting routine. That's all. Well, first and foremost, it includes making sure that this beard is looking real nice, which is starting to show some of my grades again. After dying yet, I'm getting those natural colors back. Thank you. Thanks so much. But yeah, I have some some grooming individuals that make sure it's looking nice and tidy. If you were looking for a tool to help wrangle it in a little bit, look no further than Gillette Labs NFL license razor. Special edition razors have those long lasting Gillette Labs blades and the precision trimmer on the back. That's perfect for cleaning up this guy. Nice. I hear it say must have for NFL fans this season. And clearly you too sold available now 12 teams, including the Eagles of chiefs. Get it while you can at Gillette.com slash NFL Gillette. The best of fan can get. All right. Now next segment. We're going to do a little part does Paul no ball. Our staff plays a game which waits a lot of their time. It's called the NFL Harry pick them. You'll be given teams at random and have to select one player from the team to add to a fantasy lineup. All right. So you get points for their best fantasy season. And the goal is to get the most points possible. Make sense? No, I wasn't paying attention, but I'll figure it out. Basically you just want to pick the best fantasy lineup. Got you. Nice. So you get you get quarterback running back. Wide receivers two wide receivers. A tight end and two flexes. The Tampa Bay bucket nears. You can pick anybody from their roster history. Okay. And then so like if I were to know no, no, no, you just you just picked the team. I don't even know how this goes. A quarterback throughout history from the book. Correct. And so if I'm taking Tom Brady, the pat the patriots stats don't count. It has to be when he was with the bucket nears. I think he might have had his best season in Tampa Bay though. That'll be that's true. Really. And then it's like that's the name of the game. You got to fight does Paul no ball. You know, Doug Williams Doug Williams. I don't know if any of those stats were compiled for fantasy back in that day. I'll go with them. You can also go running back receiver. You can have you go. You don't have to do whatever. Oh, there's a better. Oh, I got you. It's not the whole team. Oh, I see. I got you. Okay. Offers those. You can't take that great defense. They won the shoe. Yeah. Oh, man. I'll go. I'll go Mike Evans for. There we go. Love it. Love it. All right. All knows ball. New York football. All giants. New York football. Giants. Um. I'll go. Giants. Oh, there's no defense in there. Is there. Well, okay. Um. I know Travis would go. Jeremy Shockey. I love the shocky, man. Shockey was my guy. I knew you were going. Shockey. You might want to take a flex. Got OBJ in there. Of course. OBJ. I like OBJ. I'm going to go OBJ in my flex. No, no, Beckham, junior, baby. Early and primal. You need apples cold. Oh, this is where it gets. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. Oh, man. What to do. I mean, here's where I'm way. I'm here's my I'm way in between Peyton Manning and Marvin Harrison. Yeah. It's tough. Peyton did set the. I'm going to pay. When he was in Denver, take the quarterback when you can get him. You don't want to stuck all the sun here. Yeah. That's where you go. I'll lay. Peyton Manning. The sheriff. The sheriff. Seattle Seahawks. Uh, I'll go Sean Alexander running back. Oh, great. Yes, Paul. Those balls. Cardinals. I'm going to go Larry Fitzgerald. Larry Fitzgerald. Yes. Yes. Yes. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go Larry Fitzgerald. Yes. Yes. Yes. The Harden Pride of the Big East. Pittsburgh. Denver Broncos. Denver Broncos. Denver Broncos. I will go, uh, Terrell Davis in that last Flex spot. Ooh, TD. Coming down to Tydenne. All right. I need to be all to coincidental. The Kansas City Chief shut up. No, I hope so. All right. Cause I got two great picks for that. You say it. Oh, there we go. You go multiple, multiple directions of that. He's not. How is Terrell Davis not an option? Oh, it doesn't go back to Ellis. They got a bunch of running backs there. You could go Clinton, Portis. Portis did have some. Peyton Hillis. Oh, you go, uh, you could go tight in here. I've tried it here. Peyton, it was, Peyton, Ellis had his big year in Cleveland. He did. He did. Yeah. Made the magic cover. Yeah, Shannon Sherp in there. He's in a shot. Yeah. You can always go on. Who? Unk. Shannon Sharp. Oh, yeah, I call him out. Like my uncle. All right. Right. Of course. I'm playing Portis. Playing Portis. That's a solid. That's a solid. Very, very good pick. Oh, Billy, you're tight in, baby. I mean, I think. I think. It's only three choices. We got Chad Lewis. I'm going to have Brent Selig. I know these guys. You see him, baby. Exactly. Oh, man. Ertsy, man. Ertsy, baby. Ertsy, man. Ertsy, baby. That's the right statistical choice. He still has the record for all time catches. He's a tight end. This is a great team. This is a solid fan. What is, I don't even know what we're looking at. What is it? Is that a good one? Oh, man. Ertsy, man. Ertsy, baby. That's the right statistical choice. Oh, no, no. Oh, no, no. Oh, no, no. What was the score? What was the score? 2,269.9. Oh, no. Who's the ball? Who's the ball? Who's the ball? Who's the ball? You know what it is? Here's the thing. The flex. Those are the ones that probably lowered me a little bit. Look at how much Portus and Odell got you. That's a crazy amount. Easter. Yeah. Like, they were more than Mike Evans was, which is crazy. To have. Crazy to even think about like that. So it's only off of their best season. That's what it looks like. It looks like it was off of one season. I was thinking about when also, you know, Doug Martin had a really great season at running back for in the for the bucks. Yeah. All right. Martin had one for sure. Yeah. 100%. He was a fucking running through shit. How'd it go on? And, uh, uh, my gosh, my call stopped. That was my freaking. I love. More. Maybe just. Yeah. I might not have the fantasy points, but he's not going to give me many points in the game. But yeah, it'll be good. It's all for him. What are these for intimidation? Well, Paul doesn't need no ball. He does. Well done, baby. Thanks, guys. And now we get it's our last segment before we get you out of here. It's called We Gotta Ask. Brother and it's a question that we feel like we have to ask you. And you can just either answer them or tell us to fuck off. All right. As a brother in a cheese fan, I love you. I'm sorry, but how are you feeling as a cheese fan right now? Uh, I'm thinking about you, brother. Uh, I know. You shot me the text. I appreciate you, man. I am so happy to be a cheese fan. The joy and the memories and everything that the chiefs have given me with my family, with my kid. Um, it's been an embarrassment of riches. And it's just right now. And it's like this, you know what? This wasn't the year. But that's okay. I know it's tough. I'm excited for whoever does it for their fan base. And they get to share the same kind of things that I got to share with my son, the, for all three of those victories. Um, yeah. And even the losses, you know, it's, it's the, it's the best. So I'm thinking about Patrick. I'm wishing him a speedy recovery and everything for the club. But I'm okay. And I'm excited. You know what? I'm excited for some of the players to get maybe a little bit of a summer vacation. I mean, my God. It's like you've played an extra season, a football, a compare to everyone else. And so I'm like, oh, good. You get a break and a, a, a chance to kind of rest up. And this, so yeah, I'm not too, too upset. I appreciate you having that positive mindset. The, uh, the, the cheese kingdom, baby, we, uh, we love you. And we're, we're always working our tail off for you. Obviously this year, man, all those close. One point or one score gains and stuff like that. Just didn't end our way, man. But, uh, we're, we're still rocking a roll, man. It's a, I mean, it's a great team. And, you know, you guys, it's, it, look, it's, it's tough. It's a tough thing to sustain. And sometimes something goes your way. Sometimes you score a touchdown and they call a fan of face masks. Crazy. Crazy. There's lots of, there's lots of things that happen. And they have is every team, not just, you know, but, um, it's, it's a, it's a game of inches. It's all right. You know, we still got three coming though that we're going to have some fun and make sure that we represent everybody that, uh, that shows up every week like you do. And, um, and yeah, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna finish this thing off the right way with some integrity, baby. You're the best. One of your first jobs was as a bar mitzvah DJ. Yeah. What was on the playlist? Uh, great question. I mean, you got shout from Anelhaus, classic. Absolutely. And then, and then, there was also, uh, here we come now singing Monane. And then all the kids, there was this moment. They say, get late, get fuck. What? What? It's going. What? What can I use here? There was, there was out. There was also, uh, can't touch this. Oh, classic. And then you got a sprinkle on top, round it out with a little, um, too sexy for my shirt. Yeah. Yeah. The right set Fred. What about this one, man? That's what I was right there. That's a good, you're getting, you're getting this going around. The playlist will guarantee a mediocre party. Oh, gosh. Get late. Get fucked. It's hilarious. Dude, you're in the upcoming adventure Doomsday, which is fucking badass, man. We don't want to get you everything. I was going to say, but basically, can you tell us the plot? I'm not really sure what it is. All right. Welcome to Hollywood. Maybe that's where I'll just make it up as we go. Is it true your character in Anchorman named one of his testicles after the real life owner of Char Barnes in Kansas City? That's absolutely right. No way. Oh, wait a keep it. So my, uh, my left testicle, not my right one. My left one named James Westfall, who also happened to be my roommate in college. And what? Oh, that's so cool. Also my roommate. Yeah. And so my goal was that I would say, you know, name check them. And then he would just go see the movie and say what? I left the mayor. The best now is like, yeah, he owns Char bar as well as, you know, beer kitchen, like a few restaurants in Kansas City. Awesome ones right there in Westport, man. They're awesome restaurants. Awesome restaurants. And by the way, the burn ends at Char bar. Even the way the wings too. Oh, great. Yeah. You're getting the whole wing. And, uh, and so it's fun when he still, you know, has to do business with people. And, and then he introduces his name. And he's like, I'm James Westfall. And he said sometimes there's like a, just a pause. And then somebody will say, um, have you, have you ever seen Anchorman? And then he gets to say a half and I'm the actual ball. That's so fucking good. That's the most fun part of doing this is, um, embarrassing your friends by naming your nuts. That's why we do it. True friendship right there. Absolutely classic. You own a candy store called Samuel's sweet shop. Mm hmm. Um, give, give us your Mount Rushmore candy from that store. Ooh. That's a great question. So, uh, my favorite candy, uh, is a seasonal candy that we have. Although they've kind of laid back in the last couple of years and haven't made them. But it's a sour Santa. Uh, sour, sour Santa. It's a sour Santa. It's like a cherry sour candy. Um, but it's like the perfect, it's a gummy candy. Um, but it's, it's like the perfect consistency. Gummy candy can be, you know, there's a wide range of like, you know, it's the right firmness and all that. And it's the great, uh, cherry taste, but with not, with a nice aftertaste. That was my favorite. So I go with the, I go with a sour Santa's. We do a thing called cloud hoppers, which is like a peanut butter chocolate pretzel mix. Uh, they were putting these bags and it's, those are my two favorites. But we also do these like liquor, liquorice, uh, laces and we'll do sour laces. And, um, we do a grape one. That's really nice. And then, uh, yeah, I'd say the laces are, are, are, I put those three. That's my, that's my, that's my rush. Nice. So are you more of a sour guy or a sweet guy? You're still on a sour. I like, I like, fuck everything. I have like the tastes of a nine year old. I like, like, like, little kid candy and I love chocolate. Um, and, uh, yeah, I like it all. Were you big warhead fan growing up? I like warheads. I don't think those, yeah, when it's really, really sour and put them on your tongue. See how long you can stand it? Make your eyes water. Challenge. Yeah. All natural ingredients in warhead. People don't know that. Um, there's just a little bit of plutonium, hot tamales, miconix, sprees. I liked all that garbage bottle. That's an old school. Yeah. Find me up. Do you have a welcome to Hollywood moment, Paul? Yeah. I have a, I have a few. I don't know. Something that made you be like, you know what? I'm here. I'm, I'm in Hollywood. The very first week I got to, um, I got to California. I live in New York now, but I went to an acting school. I went from KU to this acting school. And the first week I was there, um, I went, I was at like some restaurant and I saw an actor named Courtney Gaines, who was the red-headed guy and children of the corn, children for the corn. Wow. And he's also in hard bodies. And his big scene in hard bodies was he could flip you off in 41 different languages. I don't know. That's okay. And I'm like, tell us what you got. Damn, yeah. That's this Courtney Gaines over there. So there was like, I knew I wasn't in Kansas anymore. You go Dorothy. There it is. And then I got, um, I got an audition. One of my very first, very first auditions, uh, to play kind of like this tough dude. And, um, I hadn't really been on an audition before, but I heard this story that when Danny Davido, uh, auditioned for the role of Louis Dupalma in taxi, that he went into the room with all the people and said, who wrote this? It was garbage. He threw it down and he jumped on the table. He didn't really audition. He just was the guy and he was hilarious. They all laughed. And I remember hearing that going, that's how you get, that's how you get a job. You don't want to do what you want. You do what you want. And so I went, I went to this casting director's office and it's just me and this woman, not me and this woman, nice woman behind her desk. And she goes, hello, I go, yeah, I felt so uncomfortable. I'm trying to be tough. And she said, so did you get the pages? Uh-huh. And you've been working on it. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Uh, well, start whenever you want. And I had a cigarette. I didn't light it. I didn't smoke either, but I had it as like a prop. And then in the scene of where, and then I threw it on the ground, I stubbed it out into our carpet. And that was over. She said, okay, thank you. And I left and I was driving back and I thought, I'm not going to get a job. And I had an agent, it's like my first agent. And I got back and she called me and she just said, what happened? And I told her and she just said, well, I guess you've got to learn. And I was like, welcome to Hollywood. This is not how you do it. That is incredible. I was driving back just picturing her or her assistant. She was like pulling tobacco out of the carpet. She's like, what the fuck just happened? The sky just came in here and threw a cigarette. He didn't read a single line. I'm like, what do you know? Oh, my face is like a horse. Damn, that was gold. Tell the family we said, Mary Christmas and you know, we'll keep the good fight going with the cheese. But thank you for coming on and everybody. Make sure you check out Anna Konda in theaters. This Christmas. Thank you for having me back. I love you guys. Happy holidays, Mary Christmas. How are the families? Yeah, have a great rest of the season. And always, as always, I just want to say, you know, you guys support Children's Mercy Hospital and Big Slick, the event that we do in Kansas City. You always have and you know, you know how much Philadelphia and Kansas City love you guys. But they don't love you just for the players. You are, they love you for the guys you are. You're the best. I love you so much. Thanks again for having me on your show. Love you, man. You can plead honor. Thank you, brother. Love you too. See you guys. That was another episode of New Heights. Thank you to Paul Repp and joining us reminder. If you haven't checked out the latest episode of New Heights Film Club, the drop last Friday, where we review home alone with the one in the county Kelsey, it is available and out now. So go check it out. We've also got a full holiday smectacular with Kyle Kylie Kelsey, dropping this Wednesday on Christmas Eve. Don't miss that. Make sure you subscribe to the new Heights channel on YouTube and follow new Heights on the one-reapp or ever-eager podcast. You can listen to new episodes of New Heights at free right now by joining one-replus in the one-reapp or on Apple Podcasts. Man, that was a lot for Jason right there. I'll close it out with a little shorter segment here. Once again, New Heights, a one-re show. 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Trying to think of who else with the Jaguars. For net, ETN, Bigsby, QBs, you got Bordles, Bernal, Gerard, Lawrence. I'm not taking any of the QBs. You don't need this. Okay. Go to receivers. You also can skip one team. You can skip a team. I'm scared. Jaguars, let's go. Okay. That was a very smart. Maurice Jones drew. NGD. Nuts as a flex. Chargers. L.T. Does that count? Even though it's. Do you want to do a shinny? I go running back. No, it 100% counts. I'll go. I don't know that it matters. L.T. is one of the best picks. L.T. is the greatest. Yeah. You could have ever done it right. It's going. All right. Dolphins. Can I go, damn, Marino? Or is that pre? It's too old. Too old. All right. Two. Two. Uh. I don't know how you're even still thinking about this. I'm thinking about it. Jason doesn't know ball. I don't know ball. I mean, is it. Uh. All right. Let me see. Keep going. Uh. Yeah. What are you waiting on Larry Zonka to show up? I'm trying to. I mean. I feel like Ricky's better years were in New Orleans. I'm trying to. I mean. I feel like Ricky's better years were in New Orleans. Uh. You're in the wrong. I mean, if I go over Seever, I feel like. Um. I feel like Tyreeke had an incredible year. I don't know. Yes. All right. Fine. Do it. And absolutely. He had 2000 yards, I think. Yeah. But I mean, did you have a lot of touchdowns? It's all about touchdowns. Good pick. There's 76. It's even more. Yeah. All right. I mean, do I go the quarterback right away? Do you know Josh? Nice. Josh is going to. I don't know why I was saying. You said it. You said it best. You said it best. Take the. Take the. It's either. It's either Josh or you wait for like Lamar or Jalen, even Jalen, with how many wrestling touchdowns he has from the Tish push and everything like that. We're like a cam Newton. Mm hmm. Okay, cam. But. Buffalo. Do you want to see your options at full? Yeah, let me see. I like the. It's kind of a cheat that you can see the news, I feel like. But I'm definitely going to look at these. Yeah. Stefan digs. You had a great year with him. A couple of years. Oh, I go to Sean. Um, I'll go Josh Allen just because I don't want to get stuck with a bad quarterback. I feel like it's easier to fill out. Josh is a good one. 400. Jets. Boy. Man. Yeah. No, there's what there's we know the answer. I'm going to go with Curtis Martin in the flex. Well, I don't know who else with their, really would be. Huh? Ram. Rams. There's a good one. I mean, I feel like it's got to be Tory Holt. Um, is it Tory or Helen Isaac Bruce Tory or the two in the. Great to show on turf. Oh, wow. Wow. Tore. Hold up. Are you. Sorry. You're begging me. There's one that should. Oh, Marshall fall. Marshall fall. Yeah. Bucks. Yeah. Yeah. Bucks. He's back. Bucks. Why do you see for a tight end? Fuck. Man. Let me see these tight ends. Big Bob. I mean, Rob. He didn't have what he's. Yeah. He didn't have great years there. Come and win slow. I just don't know. What's an easier one to find this next. Team. Tide ends always tough one to leave for the last. Fun being honest. Yeah, but I feel like it scores the least amount of points no matter what. So it does. Yeah, there's only a there's like. Yeah, it's like Tony Gonzalez Travis Kelsey where I'm going to cascade the page. Like it's a very finite amount of 10 years that are going to get you points. I will go. Go down again. Listen, these guys. I mean, it's got to be I'll go my heavens. Not bad. Yeah, bangles. Fuck my life. Not good. I for. I'm not going to be. I'm not going to be. I'm not going to be. I'm not going to be. I'm not going to be. I'm not going to be. I for. You beat Paul. New high score. Here you go. New high score. New high score. First time playing.