It’s Really Good to See You – with Steven Anthony King sponsored by Squarespace
52 min
•Sep 28, 20257 months agoSummary
Steven Anthony King shares his journey from facing blindness due to a macula hole in his only functioning eye to successful surgery and recovery. He discusses how he transformed his painful medical experience into purpose through his book 'It's Really Good to See You,' relationship coaching, and helping others facing similar challenges.
Insights
- Transforming pain into purpose eliminates the emotional burden of past trauma and creates meaningful connection with others through shared experience
- Intentional daily practices around gratitude, love, and visualization are foundational to maintaining positive mindset during adversity
- Purpose-driven living creates abundance through service, which paradoxically provides more fulfillment than pursuing material wealth or status
- Persistence in seeking multiple expert opinions and refusing to accept limiting diagnoses can lead to access to world-class resources
- Spousal support and partnership are critical success factors in recovery and achieving life goals during health crises
Trends
Growing emphasis on holistic health approaches combining medical intervention with spiritual and mental wellness practicesRise of personal storytelling and vulnerability as marketing and relationship-building tools in coaching and speaking industriesIncreased focus on purpose-driven business models and social impact as primary motivators over financial gainExpansion of relationship coaching services targeting underserved communities with culturally-specific messagingLeveraging social platforms like Clubhouse for networking and opportunity creation in speaking and publishing industriesIntegration of gratitude and mindfulness practices into daily relationship maintenance routinesShift toward patient advocacy and emotional support in medical education and hospital staff training
Topics
Macula hole eye surgery and retinal repair proceduresOvercoming medical trauma and health-related anxietyPurpose-driven living and personal mission alignmentRelationship coaching and marriage enrichmentGratitude and visualization as healing practicesTransforming pain into purpose and serviceSpeaking and personal brand developmentSpiritual practices in medical recoveryAfrican-American relationship representation and stereotypesPatient advocacy in ophthalmologyPersistence and resilience in facing adversityDaily relationship maintenance ritualsPublishing and book launch strategyNetworking through online communitiesMentorship and helping others through shared experience
Companies
Columbia Ophthalmology Department
Dr. Stanley Chang is chairman of the board; King underwent surgery there and may speak to their staff
Complete Chocolate Couples
Co-founded by King and his wife to celebrate and coach healthy relationships in African-American community
People
Steven Anthony King
Author, relationship coach, and speaker who overcame vision loss through surgery and now helps others facing similar ...
Dr. Stanley Chang
Ophthalmologist and chairman of Columbia Ophthalmology Department who performed King's successful macula hole surgery
Les Brown
Motivational speaker and founder of Hungry to Speak Academy; wrote foreword for King's book and mentored him
Dan Gilman
Host of Discover Your Potential Podcast; conducted interview with Steven Anthony King
Don Richardson
Author of poem 'The Journey In' featured at beginning of episode, from Dan Gilman's mother's collection
Quotes
"Things don't happen to you. They happen for you to help others."
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"There's a funny thing that happens to pain when you transform it into purpose. It doesn't hurt anymore."
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"The more you give, the more you have to give."
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"If God were finished with you, you'd be dead. So you still have something to contribute."
Steven Anthony King (quoting T.D. Jakes)
"You can't drive through life looking in the rear view mirror. Eventually, you're going to crash."
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Full Transcript
You are now tuning in to discover your potential with Radio Talk Show host Dan Gilman. So listen, participate. Be inspired. Know that you can discover your potential. Here he is, Dan Gilman. Hi everyone, I am Dan Gilman, host of Discover Your Potential. And last week, I stated a quote that when my mother had introduced Dr. Abin Alexander at Caron Nuel, she said it sparked that spirit of her soul. Well, today's guest does that just for me. Well, for many people. Every once in a while, a guest will appear that sparks the spirit of my soul. And before I introduce our guest, I wanted to read a short poem that I found in my mother's treasure trove of poems, writing spiritual items and classes that she once pulled together. It is called the Journey in. The Journey in. Of all the journeys I begin, I fear the most the journey in. Into self to my very soul, I fear this play without a role. No one has been where I would go. So there's no way that I can know what lies ahead. Or is it back? Time is only an endless track. The path I find has been well-worn. Now I do not feel forlorn. The way it in is the way back out. And now I see what it's about. A hungry searching find the best. Then know that ease, the ease that comes with rest. This journey in I can explain. This answer is to a world of pain. And that's by Don Richardson. And today's special guest I want to introduce is the amazing Anthony King. Stephen Anthony King, sorry. Stephen is not only an author of a book called It's Really Good to See You. Might add that the same name of his book is brilliant and extraordinary. And he will share with all of us the reason why. And I actually have I'm lucky to have a copy of it with me right here. He is a well-known public speaker, certified relationship coach, talk show host and co-founder of Complete Chocolate Couples. I want to welcome Stephen Anthony King. Hey Dan, how are you? I'm doing well. How are you? I'm so glad that you're here. Thank you my friend and it's really good to see you. I was just going to say it's really good to see you. Your book has inspired many, including myself. Thank you. And I'd love to also share we have a video clip too. Sure. That I would love to share with everyone and see if this will work really well. They will be able to hear it or not. So I'm going to add that now. Fantastic. And 17. I was being rolled up to the operating table for the first before operations. Not known if when I came down I would be able to see your gun. May 16, 2021. Four years to the dead. I am celebrating with family and friends the launch of my book. It's really good to see you. My man back there, Matt, was on the Zoom call. Four years to the dead. You know I don't like to say this, it's cliche as you put it. Won't he do it? Four years to the dead. If he's not telling me anything I need to tell you right. The first doctor that I went to that diagnosed me with my my condition right. He refused to operate on me. Remember I told you I had already had ten surgeries. He said my eyes are laying mine. And he started recommending companies that would have visual aids. He pretty much was telling me you're going to go one. But let's bring on also to our piece of it. There's eyesight and then there's mind sight. Who? Eyesight is what you see. Mind sight is what you know. And you better rock what you know. Because if I were to wear, when his word is that his word, there is no one's really good to see. That's it, Dan. Oh, it would be nice if I unmuted my mic. So that was incredible as I mentioned before I could remove that from the stream. But that's just extraordinary. I would love for you to talk to you to talk about the day that you actually brought your autographed book to that doctor. It sounds just extraordinary. Very surreal. Very, very surreal experience. My doctor knew that I was writing the book. And I got really choked up. I'm getting a little choked up now. Because it was just kind of, it was the stamp of closure on the entire experience, if you will. To be able, you know, remembering when I first went into his office, not knowing what to expect, petrified. And again, I had gone to maybe three other doctors prior to him. They just didn't feel right to me. And going to him, not knowing if he was going to say, yeah, you have a condition, but we can operate on you or I can't operate on you. And then him telling me, you know how doctors are, they're very, they never give you a guarantee. I call it the doctor's guarantee. It's percentages. They never want to get and I understand. I totally understand the position they're in. They never want to be on the hook if something doesn't go the way that they told a patient that it would go. And I was just petrified. And then to come back four years later, you know, with a totally different mindset, with a totally different energy, with a totally different emotion was extremely gratifying and overwhelming to be quite honest with you. I actually got emotional. I tried not to show him, but I got emotional. And he's a very, very straight faced type of individual. You know, he's an older doctor in the 70s and I'm sure he's seen a lot through his career. So he doesn't show a lot of emotion. And, you know, I was like, oh man, I've met a lot of doctors like that. Yeah. I felt a bit embarrassed because he didn't show emotion whatsoever. He was like, thank you Steve, this is great. You know, I'm glad everything worked out and that was, I almost wanted to say, come on, doctor, that's it. Yeah. That's incredible. But if I had to sum it up in one word, it would be it would be extremely gratifying. Going back into his office. Yeah. I'm sure. I'm sure. And with the creators or gods help, it really turned out really well. 100%. Yeah. And I believe, and my mother believed too, and not only not coincidences, like I remember hearing another interview that you had with somebody. I don't know if it was, it was some other interview that you had. And you said something about, you know, that either whether it be a coincidence or not, but there's no coincidence to what happened. Or you said something about what if I did this or what if I did that, but there's no coincidence it was supposed to happen the way it does. Correct. And to your point, I believe that coincidences are God's way of staying anonymous. I truly believe God is in the mix of everything. 100%. And you're right, it happened the way it was supposed to happen. I'm also a big believer that things don't just happen to you. They happen for you. And we've often heard that quote before, but I've added to it that things don't happen to you. They happen for you to help others. And I truly believe that with my entire heart right now, based on where I am today, and the mission that I'm on to spread this message of hope. Yeah, that's extraordinary. Can you tell us more about the book? Because I know I don't want to give it away. I want others to actually buy the book. Because it is amazing and wonderful. But just bits and pieces, I think, you know, even you have a forward from from less brown, which is extraordinary. I tend to use that word extraordinary a lot. And just I've been able to read through the majority of the book, which I'm really excited about. There's some certain parts that I just that I connect with, just even from my own life. But I'd love to hear a kind of a summary or some synopsis of people who are interested in learning more and getting the book. And we're also at the end of the show. I'll also be putting the links and everything. It's not only on the website, but it's also it will also be on YouTube and also in the show notes on the podcast. And I also before you go into that, I'm sorry, because I forgot to mention this. If any of you want to talk to Steven Anthony King, our call in number is 1-888-627-6008. I think I added an extra 8, but it's 888-627-6008. And you can call in or you could even chat on on YouTube. Or you can also go into Clubhouse. Great. Thank you. Sorry, I just wanted to throw that out there. No, by all means. So I'll start by giving you the backstory, which makes the book that much more suspenseful. I was born severely near-sighted. I had my first eye surgery when I was seven years old. I had three more by the time I was 16. I lost sight in my right eye shortly after college. And by 2016, I had a total of 10 eye surgeries and I only had sight in the left eye. So when I go to the doctor, there's no spare in the trunk. I was diagnosed with what's known as a macula hole. And to keep it simple, just think of it as a pothole in your retina. Which affects the central vision. Pretty much wipes it out. Now, some might say, well, okay, you don't have the central vision. You have your peripheral. But due to all the scar tissue of the 10 previous surgeries, I'm very limited with peripheral vision. So if I didn't do anything about this macula hole, pretty much I was going to be blind. And the story begins with me getting diagnosed. And as you hear in the clip that we played, the first doctor, because of all the surgery, he didn't want the risk on his record. You know, of this not going well. And I understand that. I have no ill will or no ill feelings to him. He did what he thought was best, you know, based on his knowledge. And he was a very experienced doctor as well. But I left his office, you know, and immediately went to all the negative thoughts. I went to the seeing eye dog, the cane. My wife's going to leave me. My children, I won't be able to provide for. I'm not going to be able to have a quality relationship with my granddaughter, who at the time was three. And as I'm walking, I'm in New York City, the Upper East Side on 86th Street between Park and Lexington Avenue. And as I'm walking, I told myself, you need to snap out of it. And at that point, I made a decision that I'm going to do my part. I'm going to put in as much effort as possible. And if I go blind, then it would be God's will and not do to a lack of effort on my part. And, you know, in our hungry to speak academy, we have homework where we have to use willpower as an acronym. And for me, the W, the first W and willpower is Y, W-H-Y. I needed a Y that would fuel me to not give up. And my Y was my family, you know, because I didn't want to go blind saying what if? What if I would have just put a little more effort in? That would have haunted me. Not just for myself, but again, the burden that would have rested on my family to take care of me. And I'm very spiritual individual. And I totally believed that God's will is God's will. But I play a part in that, you know. I do play a part. And I just wanted to make sure that I was going to do everything in my power. And then leave the results up to him. And that fueled me. So from that point, I went and sought a second opinion. I went and sought a third opinion. I went and sought a fourth opinion. And landed Dr. Chang, just to give you context. Dr. Chang is without exaggeration, the best doctor in the world for the type of surgery that I needed. His name is Dr. Stanley Chang. And for those of you, you can Google him. He's been in the business for over 40 years. He was the chairman of the board for the Columbia Ophthalmology Department here in New York City. And he's created procedures that are used around the world today. And I believe that it was because I didn't give up. I sought and I sought and I sought and I believe that God met me at my level of effort. And landed the top doctor in the world for the surgery that I needed. This episode of Discover Your Potential is sponsored by Squarespace. Running a business today means wearing a lot of hats. And your website shouldn't be the hardest part. That's where Squarespace comes in. With Squarespace, you get everything you need in one place. A beautiful website, built-in e-commerce, professional invoices, email marketing, even appointment scheduling. Let's say you're a fitness coach. With Squarespace, you can set up your site in minutes, add a calendar for clients to book sessions, sell digital workout plans, and even send branded newsletters to keep people engaged. All of that. Without needing to know a single line of code, and their new AI tools make it faster than ever to get started. Just tell Squarespace what your business does, and it helps generate content and design ideas that fit your brand. 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I actually had to have special equipment brought to my house, like the massage chair you see with the hole in the pad. I had to sit in that. I had one that I laid in. And when I was sitting up at a table, I had one. So 24 hours a day holding your head down, there's immense pressure on the back of your neck. So not only was it emotionally taxing, it was physically taxing as well. I have this surgery and it doesn't go well. And I have to have another surgery. And that doesn't go well. And then I have another surgery. And throughout this in the book, without giving too much away, I'm detailing the emotional rollercoaster that I'm going on. But I'm also detailing the techniques that I used to not go stark breathing mad. Again, I relied on my spirituality. So I prayed more than I ever prayed in my life. I meditated more than I had ever meditated in my life. I affirmed more than I had ever affirmed in my life. And I visualized more than I ever visualized in my life. My anchor thought became when I got those negative thoughts, which came often. My anchor thought was seeing my three-year-old granddaughter graduating from college. And me celebrating, you know, like I never celebrated before. And that became my anchor thought, which would shift the mindset from all the negative thinking. And I'm big on the mind being connected to the body in terms of healing. But you definitely have to be intentional about pointing your mind in the right direction. So that's the story. Finally, the third surgery took hold. And the book chronicles from the end of that third surgery to a year later, where the doctor tells me, Steve, I think we finally got you out the woods. Dan, at that point, I was so overwhelmed with gratitude that I committed right there in his office that I would share the story with the world. I didn't know how I was going to do it. But I knew that I needed to share this story. Because I believe that gratitude is not just saying thank you. Gratitude is an action. And I needed to take action. So I asked the doctor, listen, is there anywhere I can go speak and share my story? And the doctor said, well, you know, I don't have places for you to go speak, but from time to time, we have people who come in with serious surgery. And about a month later, I get a call from an individual. And without giving up too much of the story, I turned my painful experience into purpose. Because I started helping someone else who was just about to embark on that journey. So that's a synopsis of the book. And there's also, I would be remiss without mentioning, there's also the story within the story, which I like to call the love story. And it's the story of my wife, really, just taking charge and doing everything for me. She became my eyes when I could not see. You know, she has a very demanding job with a lot of responsibility. They allowed her to work from home to take care of me. But she had to give me eye drops three or four times a day. We had to go to doctor's appointments three to four times a week. She had to make all my meals. She had to make sure that I was comfortable at all times. If I had to get up, she had to stop what she was doing and guide me through the house. All while having to answer to the rigors of her own demanding job. That's incredible. So, you know, I definitely am blessed to have a Proverbs 31 woman. That's incredible. You have kids too, correct? I do. I do. I have three kids and I have one granddaughter who is my heart. She really is. So she was helping with three kids too during this process too. Fortunately, my kids were all adults. They were okay. My youngest daughter was in college and my two oldest were working. They had their own places where they lived. It was lucky. We were lucky that you didn't have that burden as well or that responsibility, I should say as well. It was just her and I in the household for the most part. That's good. Can you tell us more about, I know in the past two, you talk about purpose. Yes. And that's a big proponent. Well, there's three, right? Three big proponents. Would you like to, I'd love to hear more about that from, you know, to talk about the three components and your purpose, what you feel is your purpose. Well, I think we all are created with a purpose. Yes. And the sad part is not just that most of us don't achieve that purpose. Most of us don't even question that purpose. We're running on default because I believe if you question it consistently, it will come to you what you're supposed to be doing. And you know, Dan, I've chased a lot of things, worldly things throughout my life and acquired them, you know, money, property, prestige. And it's just not fulfilling. It's almost when you achieve it, it's like, that's it. Where's the big, oh. That's true, yes. Yes. And there is nothing more gratifying than to be able to help someone just because you can. Yes. You know, that's worth more than all the money in the world, all the prestige in the world. Nothing can compare to that feeling. And I have now shifted my mindset from pursuing things to pursuing my purpose. And I believe, first of all, I believe that the universe is infinitely abundant. There is no lack in the universe. And when you're operating on the your highest frequency in sync with the universe, you get blessed with abundance. Case in point, less brown. How I met less brown. In 2018, I knew I was going to write a book. I started visualizing sending emails to Oprah Winfrey, Steve Harvey, and less brown. I kid you not. And in January of this year, less brown was on Clubhouse. And, you know, I told this story yesterday in a summit. And, you know, I had been up for about 24 hours working on the book, finishing it up. And my wife says about 9 o'clock on the Friday night, less browns on Clubhouse. So, you know, I love less brown. I wanted to show respect. And I wanted to listen in. And when we tuned in, we found out that people were giving little, you know, two to five minute presentations. My wife immediately said, you've got to get on. And I immediately said, honey, I'm not ready. I'm beat. I'm tired. I've been up for 24 hours. I just want to listen. And my wife said, you mean to tell me, you're too tired to talk to less brown. And that's not it. Then she kind of sucked her teeth and said whatever. And that was the fuel. That was the why that fueled me. I didn't want to disappoint my wife. The look of disappointment on her face. I couldn't accept it. And especially knowing that I was, you know, the culprit of that disappointing look. So I put a pot of coffee on and I paste my floor for two hours, Dan, two hours waiting for my opportunity to speak to less. And when I got my opportunity, I spoke to him for five minutes. And in those five minutes, he offered to write the forward for my book. Oh, that's incredible. You can't make this stuff up. Yeah. And, you know, I'm walking with the lion now. I can put less brown's name on my book. Right. You know, again, purpose. And again, the universe giving you everything that you need to fulfill your purpose. You know, not just less brown, but a host of people in the publishing realm that I met on Clubhouse. And the wonderful community that has come about and blossomed from the hungry to speak academy, which is less brown's academy. You know, that's as yourself. I'm doing this podcast as a result of meeting you and the hungry to speak family. I think it's divinely ordered for me again to be able to get the message out. And the universe is just putting in my path the vessels to do so. Absolutely. That's incredible. So when did you actually start your book actually? When did you start writing your book? I started writing the book in, I would say the beginning of 2019. I'll never forget one of our daughters lives in Florida. And we were down there for the Christmas holiday. And we were sitting at a restaurant. And I love Florida, but not during Christmas time. There's no Christmas spirit there. It's just a Twilight Zone experience for real. We're sitting at a restaurant and at the end of every year, we do two things as a family. We look back and reflect on the goals that we set at the beginning of the year to see if we achieve them. And we also set goals for the upcoming year. And as we're sitting there, my goal was to start writing the book. So I started writing it in the beginning of 2019. Oh, that's incredible. So, and you met Les Brown when again? It was the beginning of this year, 2021. 21, okay. So your book was already in the making at that point. It was close to being completed actually. Wow, that's great. Yeah. Wow. So I know you we spoke about purpose and what is it that you want to give to our audience actually today? I know you love to touch people's lives. And that's really a big proponent of what the work that you do. But is there something that you want to give to our audience today about not just purpose, but about just giving and just the work that you do? Well, that's a great question. And thank you for the opportunity to elaborate on that. I'm just a firm believer that the more you give, the more you have to give. I think that's the whole kind of dynamic behind currency. If you will, you have to keep it flowing. You have to keep it flowing. So one of my prayers every morning is thank you, God, for showing me who to help today and giving me the power to carry it out. You know, I was on a podcast the other day and a gentleman breaks up phenomenal concept that he has. He breaks his day up into five components. There's purpose. There's money or income, whether you're gaining it or giving it. There's knowledge. There's health. And then there's confidence. And I thought it was a great checklist to have. And purpose is definitely on there. Who did I help today? You know, and I believe that the collective mindset of everyone in hungry to speak is service. And it starts with our fearless leader, Mr. Les Brown. You know, most people know him for his celebrity. But I can say with every fiber of me and I'm sure you will echo my sentiment that his heart is bigger than his celebrity. And he does things just because he's in position to do so. And if there's one thing that I would give to your audience, it's that. That whatever your special gift is, whatever comes easy to you, whatever you have, don't look at it to hoard it. Give it away. Help someone else. Help someone else. And it doesn't have to be on a major platform where you're helping the masses. You know, your next door neighbor, you know, your coworker. Take time out to talk to them. Somebody needs to hear your message. And things that you've gone through. I've also learned, Dan, that, you know, there's a funny thing that happens to pain when you transform it into purpose. It doesn't hurt anymore. It doesn't hurt anymore. You know, we've taken this pain because some of us are still living in the pain of the past. And it's affecting our present and it's affecting our future. And I said yesterday on the summit that you can't drive through life looking in the rear view mirror. Eventually, you're going to crash. You have to learn how to let that stuff that happened in the past that hurt that pain. You have to let it go. And what better way to let it go than to use it for good to help someone else. Because you're not the only one who's gone through whatever it is that you have gone through. And what better way to connect with someone who will say to you, you don't understand my pain. And you can say, well, yes, I do because I've been there. And this is how I got through it. You see, and I was able to do that with someone. And it's so funny, the gentleman that I was able to help had a similar situation. He only had sight in one eye. And, you know, he said to me, I never thought that I would find anyone that I could identify with. Wow. And because he was able to identify with me, he was able to trust me. And that goes the long way. Because I could have given him everything that I had. And if he didn't trust me, he wouldn't have received it. And he wouldn't have applied it. But I think the true measure of trust is being able to identify with an individual. Not just telling them what you did, but connecting with them. And connecting with your pain, you know, I think that creates a bond that is in measurable. Absolutely. Yeah. And you got, it's interesting that a month afterwards, you got to actually help that person through that whole process of what you went through. Correct. And again, I believe, divinely ordered. Exactly. It's not by coincidence. It's now, are you involved with that organizational or with the hospital? Or do you still help people that are going through the same process or even other issues that they might have? Well, you know, you know, that's that's a great question. And it's ironic that you asked that because one of Dr. Chang's fellows, you know, those are kind of doctors who kind of are mentees of the top dog there. He offered to submit my name to the Optomology Department to go and speak. Wow. That's incredible. Yeah, because they often get doctors who come in and lecture them on the on the medical side. Right. What he wanted the doctors to get a hold of the human side, the patient, what happens to the patient, what emotions are the patient is the patient going through. So, you know, I'm waiting on that and I'm very excited for that. I'm very excited for that. And again, that's going to be another emotional moment because May 16, 2017, I'm being rolled up to that hospital and to be able to speak to the entire staff of the Optomology Department years later is it's surreal to say the least. Yeah, that sounds. Do you are you still in touch with the individual that you helped through the process too? Absolutely, absolutely. We are now brothers from another mother. Yes. And what makes it more more ironic is that we are from we couldn't be more opposite if you will in categories. You know, and I'll just say that that we are kind of total opposite, but we have this one thing in common that makes us kindred, kindred spirits. You know, it's great. And he's able to see now as well. He is. Wow. He is. He is. You know, and you'll see at the end of the book for those who go and get it, it's a really great ending to the book. You know, humorous. It's just a really good way to end the book. That's great. Yeah. Yeah. And at the end of the show will provide the link and such so that people can actually get the book. That would be great. So I know we didn't really touch upon that you're are you also doing relationship coaching too still or is that so? Yeah. No, we do. My wife and I are certified relationship coaches. We have an organization called Complete Chocolate Couples. And we created the organization to to highlight, celebrate, healthy, happy relationships in the African-American community because I believe there's a lot of negativity and negative stereotypes based around relationships, not really not just African-American relationships, but relationships in general. And you know, they get a bad rap and we wanted to counter that and let people know that there are healthy relationships out there. They should be celebrated. They should be highlighted and not only are we promoting them, but we're we're providing techniques for folks to get to that happy place in their relationship or get to a better place. Because everyone in relationships, people in general, they either want to be in a relationship or they want to be in a better relationship. And the beautiful part about what happens with us, the more we seek information to give to our clients, the more information we have to utilize on our own relationship and to keep it healthy. So the reciprocity is there. You know, again, that currency, you know, our goal is to give, but in giving, we receive. Yes. And I remember seeing on Facebook, actually, you made a video announcement. But it was really wonderful to see your union between your wife because you talk about relationships, you're coaching and relationships, but you do you have a pattern or not a pattern, but a process that when you wake up every morning. Oh, how I how I make love to my wife every morning. Yes. And that caught my eye. Is this a family show? This is a family show. But but it's okay. You can take the little ones out, turn on the morning areas, trucking trees or whatever. So yeah, I'll elaborate every why every morning my wife and I we make love. And we've been married 14 years and our lovemaking is stronger than it's ever been. So here's what we do. The first thing I do when I wake up, I usually wake up before her is I turn over and I whisper softly in her ear. I love you and you're beautiful. I want those to be the first words she hears when she wakes up. And that generally softly wakes her up. And I believe that with all my heart, my wife is beautiful and I do love her. She's my queen. The next thing we do and Dan, please, I you know, I don't want to get in trouble with any governing bodies, but I'll I'll elaborate a little bit. The next thing we do is list five to ten things that we're grateful for. Not together, but each of us. And why do we do that? I believe that you must be intentional in pointing your mind in the right direction. And to start vibrating on a positive frequency, nothing gets you there faster than gratitude. Think about it. You don't have to wake up and do anything to start thinking negative. All the stuff that happened yesterday, especially if you're watching the news, forget about it. That's why they call it programming. We're being bombarded with all these negative images. You know, the world is coming to an end or just things that are going on in your own life. Or the the dread of what is facing you today or tomorrow. So to really capture the now, which is all we really have, it's right now. Because yesterday is gone. Tomorrow is not here. So to not rob ourselves of the joy of now, we intentionally list five to ten things that we're each grateful for. Because I believe in the the whole reticular activating system where you know, whatever your dominant thoughts are, your mind will start to look for more thoughts that are like that. So you have to be intentional about pointing your mind in a positive direction so that you can look at the glass half full. So that's the next thing we do. After that, we pray. We snuggle up together. Her legs on mine, my foot on hers. You know, I'm very mushy like that. I'm like a big six to two hundred and fifty pound marshmallow. I love the cuddle. And we pray. And our prayer is not one of God. Please give me or please grant me. It is a prayer of God. Thank you. Thank you for waking us up to this beautiful day. Thank you for loving us. Thank you for reminding us to love ourselves. Thank you for your grace, your mercy, your divine protection that covers us, covers our children, our family, our loved ones, every second of every day. Everything that we affirm is thank you. Why? Because it implies that I already have it. And it is my belief that God has given me everything that I need. And how I activate it is by saying thank you. And really believing that I have it. Because when you think about it, when you say please give me that implies that I don't have it. Already. So that's our prayer. Routine. The next thing we do is we read from the Bible, 1 Corinthians 13, chapters four or excuse me, verses four through eight. And it is, it is the oldest blueprint in the world, in my opinion, about what love really is. Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast. And what that does is remind us what love is. Not just for each other and how to love each other, but how to love ourselves. Sometimes we need to forgive ourselves. Sometimes we need to lighten up on ourselves. Sometimes we need to not be so judgmental of ourselves. So on a daily basis, we do it in the morning and we do it at night. We're constantly reminded of what love really is. And I believe when you're operating from a position of love and gratitude, I mean, you've got the universe and the abundance of the universe by a stronghold. You can't go wrong with those two things. Gratitude and love. Just think about it. Just think about the world if everyone operated from a posture of love, a frequency of love. There'd be no war, there'd be no famine, there'd be no homelessness. There'd be none of that. You know, and listen, will it ever happen? I still have hope. I think, you know, it takes a collective consciousness and we can change this world around. But if we all operate from just those two kind of dynamics, love and gratitude, you can't go wrong. Yeah, yeah, I agree. That's wonderful. Is that from the New Testament or the Old Testament, the verses just curious? I think I'm not sure which Testament it's from. But it is, it is First Corinthians. Okay, New Testament. The New Testament. Just curious about that. Yeah. Is there any events that you're doing that's coming up soon or are you speaking currently or virtual year? What's coming up for you? Well, great, great question. Thank you for that. We've got the phenomenal, less brown live event coming up in New York City, my hometown, on August 14th. So anyone out there, please stay tuned. We'll be promoting that heavily. And I have some local events going on in the New York City area. One Thursday, one Wednesday, and I have another one next week. But in terms of virtual events, we just finished the phenomenal one yesterday with members of the hungry to speak community, dare to dream. And I believe that that's going to be, you know, on demand to watch very shortly. So if you go to dare to dream.team, the lovely Ramanda Jan is the leader of that community. Yes. It was phenomenal. It was phenomenal. And I had the honor and the pleasure to be one of the co-host of the event. So much power. So much power in that event. So much motivation. So that's what's coming up for me. The biggest thing is the hungry to speak. Upcoming live event with less brown in New York City. I'm excited. Dan, are you coming through? I'm going to, I'm looking into that. Yes. Okay. Good. Yes. Yeah, I want to, I want to eventually meet you. Yes. That would be wonderful. I would be very cool. Very cool. I think, I think I know it would be. So that's great. Yes, is there anything that we're unfortunately getting close to our time? That's fine. We had more time because there's just so many questions that I have. But, but generally speaking, is there anything that you want to leave the audience with before we leave or, you know, some addresses, some how they can get in touch with you? Sure. That would be great. Sure. Well, you can, you can reach me. It's very simple. You can go to my website. If you want to sign, or to grab copy of the book, it's really good to see you. You can go to my website. It's really good to see you. .com. Very simple. And everyone who goes there and orders the book from the website, will get a personally signed autographed copy. It's also available on Amazon in ebook form, as well as paperback. Stay tuned for the hard back or the hardcover coming out within about two weeks as well. And in about two to three weeks, it'll be on all major platforms, Barnes and Nobles. It'll be distributed all over. But for right now, it's on Amazon. And if you, again, want a signed copy of the book, go to my website. It's really good to see you. .com. If you have any questions for me, you can connect with me through my website, or directly by email at stevenstvn at it's really good to see you. That's how you can reach me. And if I have to leave the audience with some parting words, it's how I often close with a statement that TD Jakes made. It says, you know, if God were finished with you, you'd be dead. So you still have something to contribute. And whether you're seven or 70, don't drop the mic. Don't let the enemy talk you in to dropping the mic. And the mic, dropping the mic is a metaphor for, in my opinion, not fulfilling your purpose. You know, we can chase everything. We can make sure that we have enough money, enough cars, enough jewelry, enough things. But nothing is more fulfilling than helping someone. So I challenge everyone out there today. Utilize your gifts. And we all know what our gifts are. We all know what we do that just comes easy. Think about how you can utilize that gift to help one person or help the world. And we can all make the world a better place. That's wonderful. Thank you, steven. And thank you so much. I wish we had more time. I always run out. I always say, this shows an hour long. And we're like, oh, that's a long time. But then, I have so many more questions. And we didn't get to the phone lines or anything. So that's fine. Maybe next time we can do actual phone calls and have people ask questions, which would be great. That's absolutely. If I can, if I may just one more thing, I would like to pay honor to your mother, your queen. Oh, thank you. Who this show is a result of her dream that came to reality. I thank you to you and I thank you to your beautiful mom and her spirit. I'm sure she thanks you and spirit. So thank you. Thank you, steven. And love to have you again sometime when you're Thank you, Dan. That would be great. Well, thank you, everyone. I just wanted to say, do something, my mother always used to say this. Do something nice for yourself and do something nice for others. And you'll hear her in a second. Thank you so much for joining us today. Thanks for listening to discover your potential. Remember your journey is just beginning. Keep learning, keep growing, and keep discovering your potential. See you next time.