The wedding night & waiting 'till marriage: Your most chaotic questions answered!

It's hard to concentrate when you're worried about your health. It can feel like there's a wall between you and the rest of the world. Like you can't be fully present. Hello, AXA Health. How can I help? At AXA Health Insurance, we build our teams with people who care. So when you need us, we're here to support you. For cover that cares, search AXA Health Insurance. Pre-existing conditions are not covered. Did you know that I got cold feet on our wedding day? On the day of Abigail. I did text Caleb and I said, I can't do this. Oh my gosh, Abby, he's probably pooping his pants. This is something that really triggers me post-loss. It's talking about age gaps, honestly, between kids. Really? Because it's like something that I like tried to perfectly plan. I'm pro-honky. Abby, if someone is at the light and they're not going, you don't think I'm going to give them a little love tap? I guess I'm pro-problem. Ew, Abby, I'm icked out. Welcome back to Always Here. I'm your host, Abby Howard. And Abby Howard. Hey-o. Hey. How we doing, ladies? Ooh. Stomach bug hasn't left. The stomach bug has lingered around. It's just hitting more people. You got it. Last week I said, didn't know what it was like for a baby to puke. Now I do. Unfortunately, April had it over the weekend. Chili puke twice, two separate occurrences. A lot during those days. Two separate occurrences. Now she's better. She's not throwing up, but she's still not 100% back yet. Was she fussy in between? You could tell she was like retelling her. She didn't want me to be put down, which is not normal for her. She really likes to play independently and she just wanted to sit on my lap the whole time. She would sit there and just lay next to me. I'm like, what are you doing? This is not normal. Which was sweet. I loved cuddling her, but I could tell she was just not feeling the best. Totally. Blake got a little nauseous, little sick. I'm still good. Everyone stay away. I'm scared. I'm scared. No, I feel bad. I'm sorry. It's so scary. I thought we were in the clear. I talked about this a lot last episode, but that morning that we filmed the podcast, I disinfected our house. I scrubbed everything, the couch, front, back underneath the tops. Every surface I vacuumed, I mopped. They also dropped you off soothed when you were sick. I was like, I'm not going to clean up, but they didn't come inside. They just put on our porch. So now our family, we had family come in town this weekend and it is starting to run through them as well. I know. Prank Gen. I called and I was like, I'm praying for your girl. They have a flight today too. They push it back. I know. No one wants to puke on a plane. So yeah, Matt and Caleb's, our husband's extended family was in town like the whole week, that was fun. So fun. It's always fun having people inside. We have people, but our family's always in town. I know. I'm like, wow, this is just a really tight knit family. Totally. I know. It's fun. It's so fun. So yeah, we spent so much time outside. You came over here. We swam. We had pizza. You guys made a good Hawaiian meal the next night. Grilled some chicken. Yeah, it was fun. It was really fun. I learned the art of paper plates after that first night. Abby is always the dishwasher I feel like. And I was like, you're like ever thought about doing paper plates? And I was like, no, they're still plenty of dishes. And I was like, wow, this is amazing. So free. I still will never use paper plates just soon. It's just my family or even just a small group. But that was a lot of people. I was 11 adults. Right. And like three kids. So I was like, okay, we'll do paper plates. And it was so convenient. If you haven't discovered paper plates, here is your opportunity. I feel like my family went through a phase where my mom just kind of threw in the challenge to win dishes for a while and just said paper plates. And we were like a solid paper plate family for a couple of years, which I know is not good for the environment. Wow. But you know what? Actually, you know what? Aunt Jen said that she thinks that they did some studies and they said that maybe this was a paper plate company, but that running your dishwasher is more energy consuming than using paper plates. Well, I believe that paper plates use less water. But don't you think like the land feels maybe? The waves. It's hard to say. It doesn't feel right to me either. But you know, I will, I still am not a paper plate person. Yeah. I don't know. I wasn't raised that way. I know. But sometimes you just get a good old paper plate. Sometimes you just gotta do what you gotta do. You're right. Yeah. I feel like that was been, I don't really have like a solid hope and a heart. Honestly, we were just talking about it. I feel like that was it. Having family time was really fun. Recovering from the stomach bug. My mom gets back in town tomorrow. That'll be great. I'm so excited. Oh, and I get my hair done tomorrow. That's super hopeful. Oh my gosh. I'll just change your whole life. I know. I know that fog where I feel like the last three weeks, the fog is lifting out of my mind from just postpartum hormones. Like I feel like a different person. Well, I feel much more clear. I think your hair holds onto memories. It does. And it's weighing me down. Cut those, cut those off, weighing me down. I wanted to wait until after I went through all the postpartum hair loss and all of that to get it done. Your hair still looks really thick. Thanks. Yeah. I mean, it definitely hit me a little bit on the sides, but not horribly. Not as bad as a divot CJ, I think. But yeah, that's super hopeful. I think I'm going to go shorter. Yes, you should. A little bit of brightness. That will be great. Yeah. I haven't ever gone like above my shoulders. Yeah. Yeah. I actually have, I think. I'm kind of dramatic with my hair transformations. Like if I'm going to go, I want it to be, I want people to notice that I got hair cut. I, my feelings did get hurt one time when I was there for four hours and then Caleb goes, what did you do to your hair? Oh. I was like, it looks amazing. But I think that's the signs of a good haircut is like, it was very natural looking. Yeah. I think it's really natural looking and be a big difference. Oh, you know, she did a really good job, but yeah, Caleb did not notice. So yeah, hopefully we'll see. Yeah, it'll be exciting. My hope is just being halfway through the pregnancy, now being public. Wow. Is that relieving? Uh, you know, yes and no, it didn't feel like it was like some big secret that I was like worried about hiding. Like, I don't know. Some people were like, oh, you can kind of see your bum here. I was like, I don't care. Like it's not like some big secret, but it is, it is, I don't know. A part of me did kind of want to keep it private forever, but you really can't do that. And I also feel like purpose and sharing like about it too. So no, it feels good. My heart though is that at our anatomy scan, I'm sorry I'm whining about this so much to you guys. I would just really, first of all, I think it's a little deeper than this, like, thing. Because I just wanted everyone to just be like, everything's perfect. Right. Stop worrying, everything's fine. And it's like, okay, baby looks great, which is obviously like, we're so grateful for that and do feel relief from that. But just like where the placenta attached, it's in the lower part of my uterus. And so they have recommended pelvic rest for at least four weeks. And so this means I can't go to the gym, which is like obviously my thing that I talk all the time about like loving so much. It's like a great part of our morning routine, getting out of the house, socializing, getting activity in, and especially at this stage of pregnancy. You have so much energy at this point. I feel like so like, what's the word? Like I think the biggest jump you take in like belly size is literally from 18 to 22 weeks. Oh yeah. And so I'm like, oh man, I really wish I could like move a little, like keep this thing going. Right. But no. So it's fine. I've actually learned to really love my walks. I've been going on long walks because they did say I can do walks. And I listened to some audiobooks, having a great time. People are like, you take your kids with you, right? I'm like, no. No, no. You think they could sit in a stroller for four miles? Right, no, no, no. Especially it's been like over a hundred now. Like they cannot do that. I had so, I've missed going on walks. It's so hard getting everyone corralled to go on a walk. Like people were like, just take your dog and walk more often with poor Lewis. But I'm like to put two babies, two kids in a stroller, a horse on my waist, and then CJ's usually on a bike. Not on this stroller. That alone took about four or five minutes. It's not like a leisurely walk. I'm like, this is actually an adventure. Yeah. Like this is, I had to mentally prepare for this. Oh, so again, no, no. A solo walk is the dream. Also no intercourse. I'm just going to say that. Oh, that's the hardest part. I'm sorry. Just go throw that one in there. It's not just Matt. I'm sorry, Mom. You guys got to lock in. You got to lock it in. We are not locked in. Lock in, Abby. We are not locked in. You got to mentally get it together. You saw it on Google the other week. Three more weeks. I know. You just thought. Pathetic. It is actually pathetic. I'm like, don't kiss me. He's complimenting you every five seconds. Your pup is so cute. You're like, get away. I'm like, get away. You devil. No. Oh my gosh. That's fine. It's fine. Nothing will get you lit up like a little, you're not allowed to do anything. Yeah, literally the second trimester. Are you kidding? I know. Gosh dang it. That's the best time. It's fine. We'll go back in three weeks. Lock in. You need to like some distraction techniques. I have none. I just go to bed. I'm literally like, I just have to sleep. I mean, that's good. I actually have been sleeping a little bit more. Good, good, good. Anyway, moving right along to this episode is all about you guys. This one's for you guys. I'm so excited for this episode. I am really excited. We have, should we share our topics? Sure. So, okay, this whole episode is dedicated to voicemails from you guys because we love hearing from you all and it's just like, it just, I don't know, it's the most rewarding part of this show I really feel like. So, obviously we see the numbers and we see comments and stuff, but hearing your voice, I just feel like it puts humans to what we read and see online. And so, it just makes it feel so, it feels really real for us to hear. Right. And like a small element of your life too, like your personal life. We hear about so much about our lives. It's really cool to get like a little bit from you guys too. So that's what this whole episode is and these are like, we call them major buckets. We're talking about pregnancy and parenting, marriage and dating, friendship. And then we just have some for fun ones, maybe a couple pop culture ones sprinkled in there. We'll see what we get too because we get a little chatty sometimes. But yeah, thank you to everyone who sent voicemails and then if we will always do this segment in future episodes, but just not as many as this current episode. So if you do want to call in the number is 602-456-9690. Woo. Thank you, Addy and Hannah for going through and picking us out. Yeah, thank you. It was great hearing everyone's questions. I hate the ones we can't make. I'll also give a PSA. If you're leaving ones that are like over 45 seconds, there's less likely that they're going to make it in the episode. Oh, that's exactly right. So keep them under like 30 and you're way more likely to make it in the episode. Okay. Little PSA. Hi, I am 10, almost 11 months postpartum and I am down bad with baby fever. I want another baby so badly. My husband wants to wait until we have a vacation in August to get pregnant after. What was your logic behind the age gap of your kids and do you wish that you did anything differently in terms of the age gap between your siblings? Thanks so much. Love the podcast. That's a great question. Do it. Do it. I feel like whenever you're excited about it, but you both have to be excited about it. So that is hard, but you can just say, Hey, I can be pregnant in August. Yeah. We go on vacation. No big deal. I guess. Yeah. Where's the vacation? Get pregnant now and then you're in your second trimester in August and then you'll feel great. That's so true. Yeah. Cause if you're in your first trimester on vacation, I could see him being like, let's just wait a little bit after that. Also if you do both agree on needing to wait, that's really not that huge of a thing. Yeah. It's not that long, but I get that. Oh my gosh. I'm like, just make it one. Make it baby. Okay. Tell us your age gaps. My age gap was unplanned with Griffin and Augie. So they were only 13 months apart and it's so fun now. So I'm like not a good, I'm not the person to talk to honestly. Cause I'll give you bad advice. I'll be like, just do it. Just make another one right away. But it was, I do forget that it was really hard in the beginning with the two littles like literally a year apart. I had two babies for a little bit there. And then we perfectly planned our third one and they were going to be two and a half years apart from the youngest to the baby. We unfortunately lost that pregnancy and then just were like, whatever we were just, we were like, whenever a baby comes, we were really grateful. And so now we have our third August or July baby in a row, you know, which I was trying to avoid living in Arizona, but life just has a way of reminding you that you're not in control. Right. Um, yes. And so that gap will be three and four years between my kids, which was bigger than I ever wanted. Wow. I didn't realize this baby in Augie will be three, three full years. Basically, cause this baby's due date is August 11th and August's birthday is August 10th. Oh, that'd be amazing. It's like exactly three years. That's kind of feels big and daunting. Really. I'd like that's what we want for our next gap. Ideally. The gap between CJ and Vivian is about two years and three months. I, we were pretty strict about waiting the 18 months because I had the unplanned C section with CJ and my doctors are pretty firm with me about wanting to wait a full 18 months to get pregnant, which I was like, that honestly sounds like a great timeline anyway, because then they'll still be relatively close in age. And yeah, so we waited and then basically 18 months was like, okay, let's start. And then we got pregnant right away. Thankfully. We're going to have a two year gap and then have a three year gap and then have two more kind of close. That's what we're going to do. Yeah. I think we want like a buddy system. Ideally. Okay. Actually, this is something that really triggers me post loss is talking about age gaps honestly between kids because it's like something that I like tried to perfectly plan and like all worked. And so then I was like, this is so dumb that you didn't talk about because it's so out of my hands, but I understand that it is warrant like warrants a conversation. But like ideally that's what would happen next for us. Yeah. I think it's good to have them close, but also like I know a lot of people that have kids with a gap and it's great to. Yeah, but I totally am like, if you're excited about having a kid, then I feel like you didn't have a kid. I don't know. That was one of our husbands cousins. What's our relation to them? Eva. Oh, she's our cousins wife. Our husbands cousins wife. Our husbands cousins wife. They're asking about knowing when to start your family. And I'm like, whenever you're both excited about it, like, I don't know, or until the good Lord gives you a baby until it just happens. It's hard to concentrate when you're worried about your health. It can feel like there's a wall between you and the rest of the world. Like you can't be fully present. Hello, Axa health. How can I help? At Axa health insurance, we build our teams with people who care. So when you need us, we're here to support you for cover that cares. Search Axa health insurance. Pre existing conditions are not covered. Hi, I was just wondering if you could talk about how the transition goes from having one baby to two. My husband and I are considering having a second one. I was also wondering how it is having a C-section when you have a toddler at home. That's something I'm really nervous about. But if you could just give your advice and things on that, that would be great. Thank you. Love listening to you guys. Bye. One side note is I think both of these last two voice notes were while they were driving, which I just think is sweet. They're listening. Best mom life for you. Yeah. Mom's on the go. Well, do you want to enter the C-section with a toddler part of the question? Yeah. Unfortunately, I feel like I blocked out. I feel like you handled it really well. Really? Yeah. That is so nice. I think it's a stage where he wanted to be held a lot. I don't remember that really. It didn't stop you. You know? And you have no other job recommendations. No, no, no. I mean, either way, whether you have a baby or not, like if you have a C-section or vaginal birth, you still have downtime to where it's hard to pick up your baby. Yeah. I will say, mom's listening. You know what I'm about. You feel this. What am I going to say? Mom's make it happen. You do. You do. And so I remember it being difficult, but you just simply make it happen. And so, yeah, C-section after when you have a toddler, I think as candid as you can, just be like, I want to hold you so bad right now. But obviously, early on, not a good idea. So I would just sit down and put them on my lap all the time and then make sure I would always have ice packs. The freedom moms? Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Oh, no. They have been stealing each other's brand. Find another brand and I'll shut up about it. No, they have a great C-section recovery. He's that frozen corn baby. Frozen corn. I'm not going to turn on them. They have an amazing C-section recovery man that has ice. We can make a hot or cold and the cold on that really, it also protected the area. So he could sit on my lap. We also load your baby in their car seat, like not in the whole, like two dumps of lift up the whole duna. I also feel like this might, I don't know if this is medically sound, but moving as much as possible does help. I think like moving a lot, like with my toddler, even though I was like sore, like it wasn't like sore that was like, oh, this is hurting my healing progress. It was sore in the sense of like, this is just what it's going to feel like to do things like as this is healing. But I feel like if I were to stay still, it would have been worse. I would go on walks even like kind of really right after. I think you healed way quicker than me from those, from the C-section. I remember I saw a video of you skipping on Instagram and I was like, what the heck? Why is she skipping? I can't skip. And so I tried it and I was like, you know what? I think I need to move more. Wait, why was I skipping? And then you're like, woo, woo. And then I was like, can I do that? You're like a month, what 16 days that behind me. And I was like, wait, I don't think I'm, she's, I probably need to move some more. I couldn't walk. I didn't walk a mile from her. Well, that was the difference of having a toddler too. Like you kind of have to. Yeah, you have to. So I think you're actually probably going to love it. Your recovery. I think you're going to help you. Oh man. Propeller forward. Propell, yeah. Yeah. And then what was the other part of her question? Oh, the transition from one to two. Oh, okay. I actually think I was humbled pretty good. I think it was a lot harder for me. I'm surprised you say that because you did so good. That's really sweet. I think my mom, if she was here entering, she'd be like, yeah, you needed help. I think those first four months, I was pretty surprised that I was still struggling, at least internally. I felt like I was struggling and I had a lot of help. Thankfully, my mom stayed for eight weeks. And I think if she had left earlier, obviously you figure it out, but I was like, I remember getting upset with myself because I'm like, I still can't picture myself taking care of CJ alone in the mornings without really feeling super overwhelmed with taking care of CJ and the baby. It was really just the morning specifically. So yeah, I think I was just pretty humbled by that. But you get over the hump once you start. I think after those eight weeks, when I was forced to do it by myself and practice it and get into routine, it obviously was way smoother. So yeah, it was pretty hard. But I think if you have a support person, like my husband didn't get paternity leave, so my mom was there to help me. If you have just one person to help you with your first child, it makes it so much better. Hey guys, my name is Megan. I'm a first time mom. The first week of March, my five month old girl is going to be turning six months. And so we're going to be starting solids and I'm kind of scared about it, but I wasn't sure how you guys went about feeding your first time babies solids. Thank you guys. Love y'all. But yeah, daddy, this is you. No, this is scary. I actually, when I was listening back, we talked about it on one of the episodes that I was really nervous to start solids and it was really stressing me out. By the time we had recorded that episode and then I reviewed it. So we were, we record on Wednesdays. I review the episode on Monday. I was like, what the heck was I stressed about? Good. It's one of those things you don't know what you're doing. So it stresses you out, but then you start doing it and it becomes fun. So I'm like, okay, just pick what it was she wanted. Does she want to pack it? You don't want to get her oatmeal or don't want to give her actual things to munch on. And just choose. And I kind of just didn't stress about it. I live in the world that I'm like, everything's probably going to go well and I'm not like super stressed about her choking or things like that happening, even though they can happen. But I just started with the breast milk oatmeal, which is what you both recommended for me. And that was great. She loved it. And then I've done packets and then I've just given her a couple like berries and fruits and just things for her to chew on. It's been fun once I started it and not stressed about it. I was more so stressed about the schedule and what I just did in my, I was like, okay, you feed her a bottle when she wakes up. And then an hour after that, I gave her a snack of some sort and I just did that every wake window. So then I didn't stress too much about it. That's awesome. That's really good advice. I think to the not stressing about it part, I feel like the internet has so much information on feeding your baby that I was like, I remember feeling really overwhelmed by it. And I never did the baby led weaning with CJ and I don't only plan on doing it with Vivian either, but I've had a lot of, I think it was really good for me just like doing the baby oatmeal purees and then working her way up to harder foods and like munching on stuff is great. I think to the expectation at first, just know that your baby is not going to like it at first. Like I just gave Vivian oatmeal last week for the first time and she did not like the first time she was spitting it out because it feels different. Like the texture of it is so new, but then the second time she loved it and ate it. So just like practice makes perfect and they'll figure it out. Yeah. Introducing things multiple times because just because the first time they eat the oatmeal, they don't want it. It doesn't mean the second time they're not going to want it. And so just keep introducing things and do what you're comfortable with. I think that's the most, the best advice I could give. I'm for some reason in my brain, giving Braille rice doesn't make sense to me, but I see other people giving their kids rice. I'm like, she can't shoot. It's just going to get stuck in her throat for some reason. Rice scares me. So guess what? I'm not ready for that. But she can have broccoli, she can have carrots. There's different things that I'm comfortable with. Both my kids actually love food from the jump. They loved it. Like from the jump. I actually quickly, you said you gave milk first in the food. We like right away went to food and then just kind of a little bit of milk. They really love food, but I did two completely different approaches. So with my first, I did baby lead weaning like by the book. I downloaded feeding littles, like did the thing, made the food, like actually get like there was gagging involved. It was the whole nine yards. And then with my second, I literally did strictly pure race for the first like good chunk. And I am here to report just in my small case study. My second is a much better year than my first. Oh no. So I don't, I say this to say, don't stress because I'm, which is what you guys both said, but like they're going to, your kids are going to be who they're going to be. And I feel like their palettes are going to just develop into their palettes. And there's not as much we can do about it as we would like to think that we can, but it's a fun season. So don't, I don't know. It looks different for everybody too. Like it is fun. It is. I agree. It makes your life a lot easier if you're nursing whole. Like, oh my gosh. Hey Abby, Abby and Addy. My name is Brittany. Great job on the podcast. By the way, I listened to it all week while I get ready to work each morning. My question is when someone is disciplining their child in front of your child and isn't the way they are disciplined. How do you approach that with your child and explain to them? Thanks. Keep up the good work. Yeah. We've had this conversation and then we would say, Hey, that's what they do in their house. We do, we do it differently here or that might be okay for them, but it's not okay around here. Like sometimes like just saying that we can have different expectations and, um, it's only felt like necessary when they ask. And so it's usually involving a form of discipline that like, obviously we don't use, but then there's also kind of like, I don't know, socially deviant in a way. Like it involved, I'm not going to explain. I'm not going to say. There's a certain, like there's a certain type of punishment that we don't use. Oh, okay. And this is, this is the one that anything involving physical punishment, we don't use. Oh, sure. And so like when that has happened in public, like I think it actually kind of scares our kids because they're like, wait, that's actually something we're not allowed to do. Like, like, and so I feel like that's where it's come up. And so it's like, well, they do it differently in their house. It's hard though too, you know, but I don't know. It's hard because they start to really observe. Like I feel like Griffin is really observing things now. And how people, different people are disciplined. But I think it's a good lesson to learn. Like they do things differently than how we do it in our house. But this is how we're still going to do it. Totally. And they do it differently and that's okay. Yeah. But has that happened with CJ yet? He hasn't really asked. No. For instance, we were at a play, a play area, like a local one. And I'm like a mom that like hit her kid. Oh, what do you do in that situation? Dang. Like in the face. What? Yeah. Uh, I have no idea. What do you do? Gosh. I like what you said. Like smack the kid across the face. Unless they ask. She was yelling. So it was already drawing attention. And then she hit her kid in the face. And like your kid is asking, like, what is it? Were you scared? Yeah. Were you near her? I was far enough away. So one of my friends was really closer and I was far enough away, but I saw it happen. I think it was near her. I would have been, I would think it would have gone. Oh, wow. I literally, I think it's exactly how you address it with your kid. I think I just like stood up and looked at her because I was like, Hey, I want you to know that everyone's watching you. Like, well, if she's doing that in public, what is she doing behind the doors? And so he like came up to me afterwards and he was like, that mommy hit. And I was like, and I was like, yeah, that wasn't a good choice. And then, but then there's other like forms of physical punishment that is like less jarring, but still like, Dang. There's the difference between that's not how we do it and we do it differently versus that wasn't acceptable. That's just like, yeah, like a spanking. Like I'm like, I'm not going to, I'm just like, they do things differently. Yeah. And so, but then with that, I was like, that's actually abuse. Yeah. So I was just like, yeah, that wasn't a good choice. And I was like, mommy's like some mommies make like, make mistakes too. I said, I hope she said sorry. Like I was just like, that's a really good way to handle that Abby. Comfortable. I mean, you don't see it a lot, but we've seen it a couple of times in an airport too. Like the dad was just screaming at his kid. Like in a way that was like, yeah, how can this not be verbal abuse? Like, and so, and then of course, my kids are just staring. I know the screaming is so interesting because I'm like the other person, I know it's trying to get from the benefit of the doubt. I'm like, that could just be like a horrible day at the wits end, but like slapping a kid across the face. I think I'd have been, I think I would have loudly go, wow. I think you would actually. I'm pretty comfortable. Yeah. I'm not afraid of comfort. I just was like, if it's like blatantly wrong, that's crazy. You know, that's really crazy. Hi, my name is Angelina and I'm calling to see if either of you have any advice. If I should quit my corporate job and stay at home with my three year old and my one year old, or if I should continue doing it. I've been debating this for a couple of months now and not sure what to do. Thanks. Oh my gosh. The age old question. That is the age old question. I've been listening to a lot of Dave Ramsey about this exact topic. Really? I want to hear it. Oh, well, it's a hard topic to talk about because I do feel like they're situational for every person. I think that the data is pretty clear about like the benefits of staying a mom being with the baby, at least from the ages of like zero to three. Yeah. Um, that that's like the best for the child, but everyone's financial. So like some people, like financially that is not an option. And so the goal is never to guilt those people and the thing and they're not doing the best, cause I think you can really raise your kids excellently and still work. My parents worked full time. Yeah. The whole time I was growing up, but if it's like without knowing about her financial situation, it sounds like she's financially able to do it. Right? Yeah. So it's like, if you want to, I think you should just do it. You'll never get this time back. Yeah, I agree. Yeah. If it's something that you can financially do, I think it's the best. Like it's so amazing getting to stay home and just be with your babies. Um, if you're like worried about the transition of that, I actually, one of my best girlfriends, they were a dual income household. And for a while they did a test. Well, they only ever lived off of his income, even though she made more. Yeah. And so they kind of did a test run of that to see, and they were able to make it work and she really wanted to do that. And so they made the switch. So if you can test run it, just like go for a little while living off of one income, um, and then decide, but yeah, I don't think you'll ever, ever regret staying home with your kids like ever. If you're financially stable and that's something that I agree. It kind of sounds like she is at that point that I would say do it. Mm hmm. Yeah. I kind of, it could be a thing too, where you're like, pair down your hours. I don't know what her corporate job would have an option for that. It's like, I, I don't want to quit part time, but if you want to do a part time and I transition out, then I'm more comfortable doing that or taking a break, seeing if they'll let you take us to medical do it for a little bit. Just see, it just really depends on the job. But I think even me always saying that I was going to work all the whole, like always I'm like in that, but where I'm like financially, I can't do that. Like just be a stay at home mom. Also, I think I would still want to work some, but I'm like, what does that look like transitioning out of maybe being full time into part time? And I think having a three year old and one year old is a perfect time to do it. Because once I get into school, you can also go back to work if you wanted to. And, um, get a part time job or something. Agree. Yeti. This isn't me giving my notice. Great advice. My job's different. I get to keep my baby and work with my family. It's the best thing ever. You're like, where you going to go? I think that's it for this category. Okay. Do we want to go to marriage and dating, friendship, pop culture? Let's go. Let's go pop culture and then end on marriage. Yeah. And friendship. Friendship is one too. Throw that after pop culture. Okay. Pop culture is it makes it like fun, light hearted questions and then pop culture ones too. Okay. I don't know. Think about pop culture. There really is not that much pop culture. Okay. I think there's like one to learn though. There's one pop culture. Okay. I want to get it from you guys. Okay. Let's do the pop culture one. It's really not that serious. Okay. Good. It's hard to concentrate when you're worried about your health. It can feel like there's a wall between you and the rest of the world. Like you can't be fully present. Hello, AXA Health. How can I help? At AXA Health Insurance, we build our teams with people who care. So when you need us, we're here to support you for cover that cares. Search AXA Health Insurance. Pre-existing conditions are not covered. Hi, Abby and Eddie. My name is Liz. I just want to say I love the podcast and my first time mom. So, did you all just so relatable? My question is what is your top tier reality TV shows? I am a big reality TV fan and I just love getting other reality shows to watch or shows in general to watch. Thank you so much. Bye. Oh yeah. I mean, the serialized and Mormon wives is basically the only reality TV show I watch. Oh, and Love on the Spectrum. Love Love on the Spectrum. Yeah, you love that one. You love that one. I do love that one. They need to make more. They're coming out the new season. Oh, good. I know, yeah, season four. Okay, could I have my soapbox? Let's go, Eddie. I was going to say Beast Games. I'm like, is that even reality? Beast Games is totally it. It totally is. Beast Games? I had, there is a question way deep in the voicemail somewhere that I read across it. I didn't save it, but someone's like brother-in-law was on Beast Games and they said what number he was and they wanted to know your opinion. Wait a minute. I do want to say I followed one of the, I went to the page of one of the Beast Games contestants August because my son's name was August. So I just immediately latched on to him and he made it very far and his character or arc was great. Wait, did you watch it? Yeah, I did. I watched it. He follows, okay. He follows us and his wife follows all three of us and always here. So shout out to August's wife. They make really cute content about it because he's the one who got the Starbucks for life. I killed it. I kept talking about that. I was like that his wife is going to love that. And they make videos of like doing, getting Starbucks orders. I don't recommend them. That's okay. I want to follow them. They're so sweet. I found it. Hey ladies, my name is, oh, how about I just play it? This might not be her, but this is someone from Beast Games. Hey ladies, my name is Kylie and I'm from Lincoln, Nebraska. My brother-in-law is player 172 in Beast Games season two. And I want to hear all about your take on how it ended, who you were rooting for, and maybe any favorite moments from this season. So I bless you guys and I love, love, love this podcast. It's August. I loved August. Oh my gosh. He, he seemed really genuine. August got a host. He was, he was a good competitor. I know. Yeah, he was. And he knew he was like, he's like, no, I didn't, like, he didn't even expose her. No, he didn't. Wait, when? At the end. When he knew that she had sold the coin. Yeah. I didn't think he was going to make it through. No one knows what we're talking about. Yeah, I'm sorry. You guys, you have to watch Beast Games, but I was huge fan. I was like, he follows us. That or his wife follows us. I think so. Gosh, don't call me. We don't make August fans. Or could have been his sister-in-law, because this is his sister-in-law calling it. I was star struck. I was like, no way. I was happy with the winner. Yeah. I thought either of the two finalists, I was like, I would love for them to win. But when he got August out, I was like, you know what I mean? The loyalty really bugs me. I know, I know. And also you got one shot at that. Like if he would have missed. That would have been crazy. Everyone needs to go watch Beast Games. If we could talk more about it. Seriously, you need to ask more. My turn to hop on my TV. Reality show. Reality show. Reality TV. Currently, obviously, secret lives of Mormon wives. And then we also have survivor. Does that count as reality TV? Yeah, I don't know. But survivors on right now. So watching survivor. Love Island, of course, all the Love Islands. UK is great too. USA is getting there. And he watches them all. Oh, I've not even halfway through. And then. Oh, what am I? Okay, what I'm not watching, but I really am interested right now is age of attraction. Wait, I watched the first episode that loved it. Okay, I might have to. I might have to hop in and watch that one. And then that's. Oh, housewives, Salt Lake City. Perfect. Great. Always Salt Lake City if you're going to start and summer house is great. If you're looking for. You want to watch. You and my older sister would love the time. And then, okay, shows in general. Do you do something while you watch these shows or you just sat? No, I do stuff. I like to clean around the house. Yeah, it's good background. It's good background. I can see that. Currently we're watching the pit. Great show. If you're into medical. No, no, no, no, no. It is great. And then what else are we watching right now? Oh, we're watching Berry, which is a murder show. Oh, I watched that. But it's like a, it's like. A sitcom murderer. Oh. Show. Show. It's not like about a real murderer. It's just like a TV show. Okay. If I don't know what to watch, I'm just going to come to you at it. Oh, I've got plenty of recommendations. So TV household. They are TV. We are TV. I love that. And they watch a lot of sports too. I don't know how. It's we wrote it once, once basketball finishes at night, then it's a show and then it's bedtime. Oh, that's a good routine. That's a good routine. Hey, can I just say that if I was ABC, I'd be absolutely ticked at Hulu for airing season four of Secret Lives of Mormon. I was before the bachelorette because I think Hulu did ABC dirty a little bit. Are they not the same? Are they the same? Disney owns Hulu and owns ABC. Wow. It's so interesting. Just the whole time that season four of Secret Lives of Mormon was airing, I was like, I feel like the bachelorette has to be so annoyed with what they're sharing. Yeah, I finished season three. I'm in the middle of season four. I like had been rushed watching it so I could give my opinions and. Have you just started watching so we can talk about it? Is Ben going to be on? Was Ben going to come and show up on? I'm more scared than I am Dakota. I know it's just watching it more scared than ever. I understand that. So much. There's a lot going on. He's going on. I know. So much going on. Okay. Let me get off my soapbox and books. Get to our next question. It's good. We shouldn't gossip, so it's good to know it's good. Books are good. Thank you. Hi, my name is Jaylin. I've been watching Abby specifically since the beginning of the unplanned podcast in Hawaii. And I'm so happy that you guys have started another podcast. Now my question is just a silly fun question. Would you rather have a permanent clown nose or permanent clown shoes? I just thought I'd send out this question just to lighten things up for you guys. Thanks. Bye. Easy nose. Why? Because I don't want to have to deal with walking around in those. Can you imagine? Your function. I tried to do a box jump with like clown feet and angle wearing hokas. I roll my angle wearing hokas. I don't want to have to be slowed down. I already got a clown nose, so it's not that bad. I'll go clown nose. I'll go clown nose. I agree. Even though it'll be in every picture, every video, I think you just learned to love it. It could be your trademark. The right song. Like the birthmark. What do you mean? Remember that whole internet drama? The Scar? Oh yeah, the Scar. Yeah, the fake Scar that she had. Oh, I don't remember it. Because on those trademarks, it's iconic. I mean, it can't be that bad. No, one time, Caleb and I, he said, would you rather have no arms or no legs? And I said, oh easy, no legs because I have to go for runs. And he was like, I think you need to think about that a little longer. Because think about how hard it would be. Wait, I'm sorry, I said this backwards. Yeah, that was the next time you go for a run with no legs. I said easy, no arms because I have to go for runs. And he was like, really? So I'm going to have to always wipe your butt. I know. He was like, I think it would be much harder to have no arms. And then I thought about it for a while and I was like, I made a mistake. I take it back. I'd rather have no legs. Oh my gosh. Hi, my name's Alexis. What is something that you believe in strong enough that you would put it on your car? For example, I'm driving by a car and it has two boobies saying free the nipple. So obviously like pro breastfeeding, those kind of things. But what is something that you feel strong enough that you would put a sticker on your car for everyone else to know? I think about that a lot. When I came in here one day and I was like, what is the line with bumper stickers? Because this man had a full naked woman bumper sticker on his car. And I was like, that's what they want to know about. This is a hot take and a hard judgment. But I do believe that if someone has multiple bumper stickers, they're probably not mentally stable. I just don't think we'd be good friends. That's the main thing to say. But I just kind of like, what would you put on your car? I got one. If you honk at me, I will cry. I should have that on there. So when people are like, you know what, she's not moving. She might be distracted. Oh, I don't want her to cry. She'll figure out eventually. I think you might get honked at more because people will be like, let's ruin her. I don't want to think that about humankind. I might do that and be like, oh, that's funny. I want to bully. I think I think it's a joke. I'm too sensitive for honking. I hate honking. I hate, I don't do it to people. I don't want people to do it to me. And in living in the state of Arizona, that is very hard because everyone here is just hand on the horn. Like, oh my gosh. They do honk a lot. I got flicked off. Is it flipped or flicked? I think it's both. Flipped. Flipped. I say flipped sometimes. I interchange them. I say both, flicked and flipped. Flicked off? They flipped me off out the window for a long time. And I was like, it's still going. It's still going. And I still can't. And then you cried. And then I cried. No, I don't actually cry, but I just get so distraught the rest of the day. Can't stop thinking about it. Have you ever accidentally honked at someone? No. I did on accident one time. I don't know how it happened on accident. I felt so bad. I was like, I'm not bad. I had pro honking. I'm pro honking. I mean, if someone is at the light and they're not going, you don't think I'm going to give them a little love tap. I'm going to go honk, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, a little wave, like a nice one. And then you don't think if someone is trying to hit my car, I'm going to lay on the horn. Caleb used to not honk at people when they would do reckless things. And I'm like honk at the horn. No, I'm like immediately. I guess I'm part of the problem. Ew, Abby, I'm icked out. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You said you didn't say you're a bumper sticker. Well, I would not have ever, ever have a bumper sticker. The thing I believe about is... You can't avoid the question like that. She said, if there was anything ever that you strongly believe. I love my husband. Oh, I put that on there. Like, I'm like, okay, I wouldn't put a faith one because then if I drive badly, I don't want it to reflect poorly on my church. You're driving doesn't reflect practice. I don't want it to reflect Jesus. And I don't want them to know that I have children. Because he's saying he's wrong. And I don't want them to know that I'm a woman. Honestly, it's just by my car. So I'm like... Well, if you say I love my husband, well... Then that telling them I'm a woman. There is a bumper sticker in my neighborhood. There's a bumper sticker that I greatly appreciate. Actually, my neighbor has it says, I heart my cochlear implant. And I'm like, what a great bumper sticker because then people know that she's hard of hearing. I've seen some like that where there's like, there's a disabled child on board. That is a great bumper sticker. So in case you're in an accident, those are also markers to know. We know how that is. So when I'm distracted with my kids in the back seat and I don't go right when the light turns red, people can just... But if your sticker says, sorry, I'm distracted. No, I can't say that. Sorry, there's goldfish underneath the car seat. And it's really important. Hi, Abbeys and Addy. I wanted to know what you guys would be doing for your jobs, last careers, if you couldn't do content creation, business owning, podcast or being a teacher coming from a fellow, always homey. I love the podcast. Bye. So many ideas. I would love to be someone's personal chef. I would like, I love everything about it. I love going to grocery store, getting groceries at like meal planning. I like, I want to just make their food and then leave. I feel like that would be so fun. Prep it, put it in the fridge for them. Someone else's kitchen too. There's something about cooking. That sounds fun. That does sound fun. It's probably going to be a nice kitchen for me. No, I'm just kidding. Hey, baby. So I think that'd be really fun. Also, I feel like I might be a real estate agent one day. One day you think you're going to come back to that and become a real estate agent? Yeah, maybe when I'm like 30. I always thought like that'd be so fun. And then we bought our house and I was like, that would be so bad at this job. Why? Because the back, all the communication behind the scenes. Oh, maybe I'm ready. It's a lot of back and forth and paperwork. I have a thing for you. It's actually three. So, I don't know. You said by the time you're 30, you want to be a real estate agent? Maybe my 40s. Okay, fine. Wow. I have a lot of life to live, y'all. I'm not going to do this forever. Okay. It'll just be me here. Me and Addy will be. I don't know who I'm using. I'll just sit over there and I'll be like, hey, help me. Abby's on another real estate agent call. She's going to have Mormon wives where we pay to Abby and she's not there. Like they do what to me as interviews. Abby refused to be interviewed. She's showing a house. Yeah. Abby actually has another job. I love it. I also just love, like, I love house shopping. Yes, it is so fun. What would you do? I used to think that it would be really fun to be like an on carpet correspondent for E-News or like a carpet interviewer of some sorts. We met someone like that in Rhode Island. Really? I don't even know if I'd be good at it. I just think it'd be fun. You would be good. Or like on QVC, because I used to do that for Bull all the time. Like I would do all my trial and videos and like describe the products and sell the clothes. And I think it would be so fun to be a QVC host. That's fun. Yeah. That's fun. I'd be burn boot camp trainer. I think I would train. That's a good one, Addy. I would do that. Yeah, I think that's it. I don't want to do anything else. I also say at this point, like with this under my belt too, I'd probably be good working for like an agency or something like I feel like I'd be, if I needed a backup plan, I could work for an agency. I mean, you're the most organized person I've ever met. So, and so good at communication. You could thrive at most jobs, I think. So kind. So kind. I'm going to, I'm going to put that on my master's degree, not my personality. Hi, I was just wondering what your first job is or what you did to make money before being an influencer. Also, what made you like to decide to be to be an influencer? Have a good day. Oh, thank you. Just go through all your jobs, run them down. Me? Yeah. There's not that many. Yeah, I don't have a lot of work experience. I am not hireable. I was trying to have a reason. I don't have a reason. Unfortunately, I can not get hired anywhere. Yeah. No, I do have a my degree, but I was a babysitter and a nanny and a tutor and a substitute teacher. And I worked at a cocktail lounge and a pizza server. What else did I do? And then a TikToker. And then a TikToker while I was still in school. So we started social media while we were still in college. So that's why I never had like a sub being a substitute teacher is the most big girl job I ever had. And that's still just like temporary work. You know what I mean? Yeah. My first job was my senior year of high school. I never had jobs in high school because I always played volleyball. And so it was just hard to find jobs and you do like a competitive sport. So my senior year of high school, I got a job at the Ralph Lauren Polo outlet. And then I worked at a boutique in St. Charles called Moss boutique for a couple of years, which I loved working there. After that, I worked actually started bolt my business that I had for five years. While that was running like starting up, I worked at Lulu lemon and I worked at Topgolf. There you go. So there we go. A lot of retail in there. So much retail because that's what I wanted to do. I wanted to do I had one to have my own store. So I was like, I want to get as much retail experience as I can get. And so I worked all those jobs while I was preparing to start bolt and then when I had bolt. And then why we wanted to become an influencer. I think for me, it was just kind of a natural progression after we closed the business. You and Matt had me on unplanned a lot. I feel like you guys shared a lot about the business, a lot about me and just naturally helped me kind of start a following. And then I also, I mean, I did it every day when I had my clothing store. And so I was very used to like filming and creating content and talking on stories. And so it's kind of just a natural progression to continue doing that just from a business to my personal. So I honestly didn't plan for it to happen. I just I didn't have a job. Oh, oh, you hired me for a little bit after bolt and I was a group and Danny for like two months. There we go. Yeah. So I was just in that progression. I was like, I think this just makes the most sense. I always say I got into this by proxy. I feel like with like Matt had the vision for social media and like had the passion and I was just in it. And then it just kind of became like a really cool opportunity that I was like, well, I'm going to make the most of this and enjoy it for as long as we can. And I'm shocked it's been this long, honestly, when you really think about it. Time flies. You're like, oh, it's been four years. Crazy. But it has been six years. Six years. Yeah, it's so insane. Crazy. Okay, we're going to switch into the friendship category. Friends. So many people are for I asked this, but what was the first time you guys met where when and with awkward or like even when the first time you heard about each other, like what were your first impressions? I feel like I'd like let's go in the area of first times you heard about each other. Like, do you remember the first time like you heard about what you probably heard about Abby? She was dating Matt. That time of life is such a blur. So it was like 10 years ago. So long ago. I just I think we talked about this in the first episode, but I just remember thinking Abby was really quiet. And yeah, you're very quiet. You just didn't talk much and you just kind of stuck by Matt. So like you just didn't and we were never like we'd be around each other occasionally at like a family dinner or you know, it's always short. Yeah. And quick. But yeah, for a couple of years there just wasn't a ton of interaction. Yeah. It was like we were both in the room, but we weren't really interacting with each other. Yeah. Why are we like that? I don't have many memories of this. I just remember thinking that you were really cool and like really, really comfortable with the family. Every time. And I was not. And so I was like intimidated. I was like, she's so she's a veteran here. I mean, I take veteran. Yeah. Cause I think we had been dating like two years at that point. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was definitely comfortable. Also you guys were you were in college already. So I feel like we would only see each other like at holidays when there's already a lot of people around. I don't remember, Addy, I just remember hearing that I don't even think it was Blake who told me that he was like interested in a girl like it word got around church. And then he's like, oh, my brother's into somebody. I was like, Blake, you want to fill in your sister? And so I just remember, I feel like there was one time. Did we share a hammock at fall retreat or something? We had, we had three hammocks. I know I was in one. I remember Matt being in one next to me and you were probably in that one too. But I remember one time that just popped his head up. I was like, Matt's sitting in the same thing now, but I had never talked to him before. What was the first time that we talked? It was a then fall retreat. I probably would have been fall retreat, but I don't even really remember talking to you that much. I think I was scared of you. What was your first impression of Matt? I thought he was a cool guy. Like I thought he was cool and the popular guy. Like he was tall so then that like just adds another effect to it as well. Yeah. Yeah, I just thought he was probably cool. Happy, I'm trying to think. I loved how like you were friends with everyone. Like you were just like so fun and happy and that was cool. I'm like, when was the first time? I think the first time we met was at Griffin's gender reveal. And I just remember, Addy, I remember I followed you, I think before on Instagram. And I remember you were really into fitness at the time. Like you always going to the gym at most date. And I was like, she's so cool. She's so fit and you came in town and I remember just having a lot of fun talking to you. I was like, I was wondering, I'm like, when did we first meet? Because it's weird to think that we didn't know each other. I know. Before like Abby. I know, I just, I never, we never met in Missouri. No, but I remember like buying stuff. I was like, I'm going to buy stuff from bowl. I'm like, I still have stuff. I'm like, I just threw away something. So I was like, oh, actually I'm mad about it. No, it's good. I saw a couple tank tops. So yeah, I was like, I was intimidated by you just cause I was like, she's so cool and older than me. Abby, you're intimidating. You're just so much better at it. Listen, I'm 25. I was probably 21 at the time. I was like, you're older than me. How do you probably think of such a little kid? Good. Be afraid of me, ladies. No, I'm just kidding. Just kidding. I didn't have any. I think I'm cool. It's fine. No, I remember, Addy, I had you over to my apartment without Blake and I made you mac and cheese because that's the only thing I knew that you liked to eat. Cause the only thing I knew about you is that you were a picky eater. Which is just so crazy cause I'm not that way anymore. But I guess I was a picky eater, but I do remember you inviting me over cause I had to stay in Springfield for dance cause we had nationals at the beginning of January. So we had rehearsals, literally like 40 hour weeks of dancing. Dang. And you had me over because Blake went home and I'm just here by myself. You got you and Matt had me over and I just sat at your table. I was like, what do I wear? Like I was like, I don't know what to do. I'm going over to my boyfriend's sister's apartment. I don't know what to do. Oh my gosh. I'm sorry, but a boyfriend's or husband's sister, there's no one more intimidating. I feel it. We started dating on December 4th and she probably had me over like December 20th or something like that. I'm like, we'd been dating for two weeks. This is so nice. I can't say no, but also I was like, Blake, you want me to better? He's like, I got it. I'm sure he was like, no, I'm like, actually don't talk to her number. That was very nice of you to invite me over. That was really fun. That's so fun. Hey guys, my name is Hailey and I love watching your podcast. My question to you guys is how do you handle friendships with your close friends that don't have kids? In 2025, I struggled a lot with jealousy because I couldn't pick up and do things like they could anymore. It made me mourn and grieve being able to do that. And of course, not with this credit, the love that I have for my children, but I just wanted your advice on that. Love you guys. Thanks for listening. I think it's okay to miss your old life while still loving and appreciating your new life. Yeah. So I don't think, yeah, I don't think that makes a lot of sense that you would feel a little bit of jealousy sometimes just like the ease of not having as much responsibility. Half time. I mean, it's always, yeah, I'm like, oh, young and free, you know, it does, it does make your. Legitimate ships different. It does. I didn't feel that way when Caleb and I got married, like I married no big deal with single friends or friends that weren't married. No big deal. When we started having kids, I feel like the gap started to increase of things that we had in common. You know, it's just so much harder. Yeah, having things in common and the schedules too. Because you're like, well, I gotta go home for like two, three hours in the middle every day. And we also have to be back at like seven. So you got to fit in these windows and that just makes things logistically difficult. Totally. I would say have your friends over to your house. Yeah, I think that's what we did too. But also just know things are going to be different. And I feel like expecting things to be the same or your friendships to be the same is just a little unrealistic. It doesn't mean that you're not good friends. It's just, it just is another factor that makes it more challenging. And it's a great opportunity to meet new friends too. Totally. It doesn't mean you get rid of your old friends, but it's a great opportunity to meet new mom friends. I agree. Hi guys. I love your podcast. It's wonderful. I listen all the time every time it comes out, but I was just wondering, I'm trying to get a little closer to my sister-in-law. And I know y'all are all sister-in-laws. I was just wondering if there was some kind of activity or something that you would suggest that could help me out. Thanks. If you're going to do a double date situation. Oh, perfect. Yeah, I feel like that's always easy and fun. I feel like a family game night is always fun, but it's just you, your husband, your brother. Well, I guess is she married? We don't know. We don't know if she's married. Well, actually, yeah, if it's her sister-in-law, she's married. But it could be her brother's wife. Oh, yeah. I'm thinking what are some fun girl activities to do? If it's going to be a one-on-one thing. Go to lunch, get your nails done, get coffee, go shopping, go on a walk. Going on a walk is the only thing I can do. Especially if you can walk to somewhere and do something. Yeah, it's so fun. I also think just having dinners together is just the easy way. You have to do it anyway. You got to make dinner anyway. Invite them over. Invite them over. I think, yeah, just you're so good at this, just being an intruder and just always inviting her to come into your life or vice versa. Well, maybe not pushing yourself under her life, but including her into your life. And then if it's reciprocated, then she'll be like, oh, I'll invite her back. And just that repeated time will be really good on your relationship. Yeah, go to work out. There's any time there's someone that comes up. Yeah, I also saw another voicemail in here when I was looking through them of someone who doesn't really live close to their sister-in-law. And I think she even mentioned she doesn't even have their phone number yet. Their brother's about to get married and she doesn't have her phone number yet, but she wants to have a good relationship with them. And I think that's another factor if you don't live close. It's like making the most out of that time, but just know it's not going to be the same. Like, we weren't as close before I lived here. It was just the way it was. I would think almost because there's like this sense of comfort, comfortability with its family. It's almost like, well, no matter what, we're going to have to spend time together and be together. Then I think if you go the extra mile, then that is like, oh, they really care and like want to be our friends. So like sending them something nice in the mail. Like if they have, they're getting married, like send them a nice gift and a nice no and like something really personalized. Or if they're having a baby, send their baby like a nice gift. I don't know, just doing something a little bit extra special to where it's like, oh, this isn't just like the family thing. I want to like actually have a relationship with you. I would say if they're in town, do a one on one thing with them instead of just be with the family the whole time. Yeah, you can even FaceTime. It could be a little bit weird, but if you're make it, make an excuse for it, you know. And also if they're wedding planning, just see if there's anything you can do to help. I know that's like a vague question, but I feel like even just offering it's like, okay, you want to be involved in like an intimate detail of this wedding, but not just like a regular wedding guest that would then carry on hopefully into the marriage. Yeah. And I would say make an effort to go to all the things like, even though it's going to be expensive like flying for the bachelorette party. Yeah. Like try to be a part of everything that you can. Oh, I'm switching to a different category. Okay, what's the next category? This is kind of just like outliers. So it's just a couple other. This is a little more deeper one. Random question. Random question. Hi guys, I am in high school. I want to know how you like came out the negative, the negativity in the drama of the everyday life and just ignore it and go forward. How do you just only think about the joy and just, you know, I just love listening to all. Thank you. What was your name? What should I say? Okay. Thank you so much for that. That like, made my heart sing a little bit. Yeah. Because you can just hear the sadness in your voice. If I can preach for a second. I'm going to preach for a second. I want you to remember that like you are chosen. You are loved. You have been bought for a price. You are perfectly and wonderfully made. And when, for me, when I'm facing hard things or I'm feeling insecure, like I just went through a season of feeling insecure when you're facing negativity, mean voices from the outside. You just have to remember that your identity is not what people say about you. It's about what God says about you. And if you're not a believer, I think it's just important to like have a just come to like conclusion about who you are. And have a firm sense of identity outside of what others think about you. And so for me, that's my faith, but like, I really want to speak that over you because truly that having a sense of there's so much safety and knowing that you're chosen by God, you know. And so yeah, especially in the season of life where like, I'm sure the drama is really hard and girls can be girls and boys in high school and can be so mean. And it just feels like it is your entire world. Just have, try to have that perspective of like, you're going to move through high school and you're going to come out and the world is going to go from really narrow to really, really wide. And you're going to make it through that and like the doors are going to open for you. And I think sometimes too, like when you're really in the thick of something hard, you have to have this like eternal perspective or like a perspective past your current circumstances. And I know that's really easy to say and hard to practice, but you just have to remind yourself that a lot. Honestly, I have nothing else really to add. That was great advice. It makes me just, it's like, it's hard when it's like, you can see it on this side, you're like, that was such a small speck of our life, but it felt like, it felt like everything. It was everything for that season. And I think having that like broader perspective is very helpful, but then also like as you're, I don't know where you're at in high school. This could be four years, which feels like such a long time, you know? And so my advice is to just try to find at least one genuine friend and to just have them as like a support. It's really important to have that peer support, I feel like, especially like in school. And if you're having trouble finding that, the advice is just to go first and be weird and just, I don't know, maybe just say like, we could sit together at lunch and then just, just be the first to put yourself out there. And I know that's a really scary thing to do, but I think having friendships really made high school also just like so much more enjoyable. I felt so much joy through my friendships. And yeah, Abby said it great. Hey, Abby's, you guys are awesome. I love the podcast so far. I want to ask a question and that is what sacrifices have you made to keep what matters to you truly at the center of your life? Oh, that's a good question. That's a good question. What sacrifices have we made to keep what's important to us truly at the center of our life? That's a question. That's kind of a hard question. Yeah. I feel like I can give one even just starting to work for you guys because I always expected to work corporate and whenever you guys offered me a job, I was like, Okay, this gives me the chance to be with my family, with my daughter, with my family. Again, I just said that. And I think that's something I had to give up of like my, how I just expected my whole life to be to work from home, work with my family instead of building up this big career outside of that. And it took me a little bit to process that on my end. It seems kind of shallow to be like the career versus the family, even though I'm still working. But I was like really excited about that life of like working in an office, working in a building, working for a big company and shifting that because I knew taking this job opportunity, I'd be able to be with my family more. That's a good one, Addy. I think when I closed my clothing business, making that decision to end bolt was like the hardest decision ever. But it was one of those things where I was fighting tooth and nail and just like driving our family into more debt. And so it was one of the things I had to do to like, it was just, it was so hard like giving up my dream, it felt like. But I had to, I was pregnant and we were in a lot of debt from it. And so that was just a sacrifice I had to make. And it was the best decision I made, for sure. But yeah, and choosing to close the business. I remember that day, I was so vividly when I was like, Oh my gosh, I can't keep doing this. What am I doing? I'm like, ruining, like there's such a wedge between Caleb and I because the stress of this debt is so scary. And like, I just have to let it go. So that was hard, but that was the best decision ever in the long run. It's a hard one. I too never envisioned my life looking like this. But in a lot of ways, I feel like life has through a series of decisions and which I was like prioritizing first, like my marriage. And then my marriage plus my kids, my whole family has led us to this point. And as long as this feels like the best option for our entire family, like I'm going to consider this the greatest gift of this career option that I never considered originally and never even actually knew existed when I was dreaming up my dream lifestyle. So like, that's just something that's always going to take precedence in my life. And like, it'll always be the like the greatest thing this this job has given me is like that flexibility and that time to like work with Matt and have that like get to just drop everything when I want when my kids need me. So like, that's a series of like a lot of little decisions where I was like, I just want like this, I choose this, I choose this and it's not like I just feel so grateful that that's where we've landed now. And yeah, I think family, I think all of us have that same drive. And so then we're all find ourselves in the same place. How ironic. I want to hear ladies. How ironic. But yeah, and I feel like that's something that's always adjusting and changing too. And it's hard. This is a good wake up called question to ask you because I feel like sometimes you make a series of decisions, small decisions and you wind up somewhere that you didn't ultimately want to end up being. And you're like, this is actually in the long run isn't ultimately like the direction I want to go. So it's good to always ask that question to like zoom out also and be like, wait a minute, I thought I was making this decision, but I've ended up over here. And this is where I'm supposed to be. But that's a good question to keep asking. I feel like that's always like a beginning of the year question. Like you can kind of think zoom out and think long term war. That's good. That's great. Okay, marriage and dating. Okay. She's a juicy. Hi. So I'm planning a wedding in July. I'm so excited. What is the year one or two things that you chose to do at your wedding that you regret doing or that you recommend doing for other people? Thank you. Bye. To think back to things that you regret doing and or something that you regret doing something you recommend doing at your wedding. I don't know. No, I do. I do. I do. I genuinely this is so cheesy. I don't have any regrets for my wedding. I don't have any regrets for my wedding either. It was amazing. I always say at the end of the day you are married to the person you spend the rest of your life with and I just don't think you could really fairly look back at me like, oh, well, the dinner was a little cold. You're just not going to think about those things. You don't care. So I would say just the whole day just I mean my greatest goal and my like I kept trying to push myself to be like be present because I heard so many people be like such a blur. Like I just don't remember anything. I'm like, oh my gosh, I just want to remember everything as you get this once. Like I just want to be present. So I just was like that was my biggest prayer. I was like just let me have presence of mind the whole day and I feel like I had that and like had such a great freaking time. It was amazing. And actually Caleb pulled us aside at our wedding over this. He's like, look at everyone here. They all came to support you guys. And I was like, that was a really good reminder. So maybe build in in your schedule like a time to pause and just look at literally everyone that made a sacrifice to attend your union. Like that's really special and that is it's a very humbling cool. Like also when you think about the gravity of that, like these people witness you make your vows to your spouse for till death do you part like that. Like that gravity, I think that we can't lose sight of that amongst all the flowers and the food and the party. Oh, that's my best advice. Have a big dance party. We had a really sweaty fun dance party. It was so fun. Crazy that Addy wasn't there. I was not there. That's so crazy. Yeah, that was. Everyone was sweating through their shirts. Blake wasn't. Blake, I don't think he hit the dance floor once. Actually, Caleb and I were on the dance floor. Actually, living it up. Yeah, that was your wedding was so fun. Oh, I was talking about your wedding, but also my wedding. Oh, yeah. Also at my wedding for my father daughter dance, I also had both my grandpas who have since lost. And so I look back at that video and that moment as like so special. And I don't know what I just like was so close to my grandpa's and I love them so much. So like now I'm like the fact that they were both there and I just didn't know how little I had left with them that we have that moment. And especially knowing my dad and my grandpa's, it was a big sacrifice for them to dance publicly in front of all the wedding guests with me. And I just look back at like they did. They made themselves so uncomfortable to have that special moment with me and they forgot everyone else just for me for that moment. And it was really sweet. It was just the way you look tonight by Frank Sinatra. It was so sweet. So yeah, I think just make the most of like those personal moments with the people there because it's so easy to think like, I'm the bride. Like don't don't be that bride. It's just not about you. Like I know that everything in the wedding industry is saying it's like all about you that day. It's just not the case. No. Like there's a lot of people that make sacrifices for you and your spouse and ultimately it is about your marriage and the vows that you're making together and the rest is extra. So we don't have to look at that as like, oh that was such, I can't believe they were late with the, I don't know, the DJ was late. So no, not a big deal. Totally. Yeah. That's great advice, Abby. Did you know that I got cold feet on our wedding day? On the day of Abigail. I got it at the rehearsal. I got cold feet. And I think you know what, here's my advice and here's what I regret. I didn't process a single emotion beforehand. And so on that morning of the whole day, the buildup is so crazy because Caleb, I also were not seeing each other until he walked on the aisle. And I just remember like we were getting ready and everyone's having fun and I'm sitting like, huh. And then we get on the bus. Everyone's like dancing and singing and music and it just starts hitting me and I had this moment where I go, oh my gosh, I'm driving to my freaking wedding. And I just started to like have an internal panic attack. That has to happen, honestly. I think it happens a lot. Yeah. But then I just kind of got quiet and I tried holding it in and then the minute we got to the venue, everyone was like, Abby, what's wrong? I just go, I can't believe we're getting married today and I just started busting out crying. Great. And after that, I felt amazing. It was like, I just need to release the emotions. Yeah. But on the bus, I did text Caleb and I said, I can't do this. Oh my gosh, Abby. He's probably pooping in his pants. Because I corresponded. She thought I was kidding. I was actually panicking. Oh my gosh, it was like a legit. A legit text was said, I'm freaking out. I can't do this. And he just said, isn't that crazy? I mean, that is crazy. I don't even like that. I know. I just started to panic. I was like, I can't believe I'm getting married today. So I would say, pre think about every emotion, like in visualize the day, because I just didn't, I didn't have any, I was like the first of my friends to get married. I just had no context of the day. So that's so funny. I forgot my wedding dress at my wedding. Yeah. Where? At home. Oh no, no, no, that's a dress shop. I never picked it up. Oh my gosh. Yeah. No big deal. I was in a small town. No, you also didn't have the wedding certificate, right? Oh, we didn't have the wedding certificate. I'm not surprised by the details of the story. How does that even know that? It wasn't here. I just like, you got your marriage certificate? You're like, what is that? I didn't sign it the day I had to pry me off the dance floor. Yeah, they did. I was like, Abbie, stay focused. I love it. But yeah. My biggest advice too is to wait to see each other before you walked on the aisle. Oh yeah. I think that's a given. It was the most amazing, incredible experience ever getting to see each other for like, they opened the doors and I made eyes with Caleb and I just was like, I cried the whole ceremony. Oh, the whole time. There wasn't a moment in which I stopped crying. It was so incredible. Caleb said, it's the first, it's like what he had pictures like in heaven. Like the doors open, you know, and it's like seeing your bride. It's like, oh, it's just so cool. I want to go back and do it again. I know. No, I just, I just get it. Wedding renewal? Barren renewal? We have the same anniversary, essentially. We should. But let's just do a destination wedding vow renewal for you guys. Mexico. Let's do it. Always homies. You're all invited. I actually have two regrets for my wedding. That's why I want to share. That's why I want to share. I wasn't going to say anything, but I actually do have some regrets. Tell me. No problem. The second one won't make me cry. But the first one is I didn't do a wedding video because of the cost. And I think the cost would have been worth it. I think now, I was like, when am I ever going to watch that? And now I'm like, I wish I could watch it. So first regret. Second regret. We'll cry. I was really stressed. Just like, cause I'm a planner and so I'm not in charge. I'm my wedding planners in charge, but I'm stressed about it. You know, and so like right before I'm going down the aisle, like my mom wanted to have a minute with me and I was so stressed about like everything going right that I just like, I didn't take that time with her. I was really stressed and I was like, let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Mom and she's like, we're trying. She's trying to have a special moment with me and I was just like not focused and I apologize to her about it afterwards. But I wish I would have taken that moment to like have a special moment with my mom because I was also wearing her wedding shoes going down the aisle. So she wanted to have a moment with me and I just wasn't present for it at all. And so I think just be chill. That's my recommendation. That was vulnerable. Yeah. I'm really sorry. And that's good advice for people. Really good advice. Especially if you're a Taipei person like me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like it'll be fine. It'll be fine. If you're late going down the aisle, no one cares. They're waiting for you. You have to hire the people in the place. You have to put the people in place and if you can't afford to hire someone, have your friends do it. I had my friend do it and she didn't make me pay, but I paid her and now she's a wedding planner and she was great. And it was wonderful. Hi, my name is Camden. I live in Oklahoma. Me and my fiance are getting ready to get married in the beginning of May and we've been together since we were 17. High school sweethearts also grew up in the same hometown. We'll both be 21 when we get married. Just wanted some advice for wedding night and how to prepare because we also have both waited to be intimate with each other until after we're married. Thanks. Love you guys. Listen. Love listening to you guys so much. My favorite topic. I was kidding. We've been waiting for this. There's another one just like this too. So let me, that's kind of in the similar realm and then you can talk about both of them. Hey girls, my name is Aubrey. I just wanted to say that I love the podcast and everything that you'll do. I'm calling today just for advice on boundaries and waiting until marriage. I get married in less than six months and I'm so excited, but also the struggle is real. I'm getting married to the high school sweetheart. So that's super exciting. So any advice you'll have on that that you'll do is just get married. I'll have on that that you all did with your cousins. And also if you'll have any advice about getting married so young because we're getting married at 21. So any advice and tips you have for that would be so grateful and I just hope you'll have a blessed day. Bye. Woo, girlies. Congratulations. That's so fun. The drought is coming to an end. The drought. Oh my gosh, I have so many things to say. Aubrey, you kick it off. Okay. Well, let's talk about the first question first. Yes. Okay. The wedding night. Yes. I only have one drink of alcohol because you want to be fully present. I had Sprite. I was actually under. I was going to say don't drink. Yeah. You don't drink so fully present at your wedding and for the night because you've been waiting so long for this special moment to like be intimate and connect with your husband for the first time. So I would say just don't mess around with alcohol. Matt and I didn't drink at all at our wedding. Yeah. I think I have like a glass of champagne and maybe one glass of wine. It was like beautiful, you know? No, I just definitely had that's actually really good advice. I think I just had one glass of champagne because I think too, it's like you're in the moment and like they're going to give you a lot of drinks just as the bride and groom. Like they're going to offer you a lot and I just was like, I only want one and then you can be fully present. That's so that's such good advice. I wouldn't have even thought of that, but like you waited, especially if you waited, like you did it so long, like let's set ourselves up to remember it. Like let's not. Yep. And enjoy it and have a presence of mind. Okay. And then okay, Caleb during the day with his groomsmen, they, he slipped, snuck away and like decorated the room and did little special things in the room. So I don't know. Maybe if that's like a tip to your husband to like have him sneak away with his guys to go like decorate the room because that was really fun. Sweet. Yeah. Rose petals on the bed to the bed. I was like, oh baby. Also shower before they get going because you're going to be sweaty from your dance floor. You'll be stinky. Take a little, take a little shower and then go take it to the bed. Just take the shower. You've got a shower. You can keep your makeup on and your hair nice. Just watch your bits and bobs. But I'm, what I'm saying is don't do it in the shower. Go do it in the bed. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Or you can do it in both. That's expert level. You are not very professional. No. Take the shower. Take the shower. Take the shower. Go to the bed. Exactly. What's my? What's your advice for the wedding night? Okay. I have to say this. I'm not going to say it's not true. It's like it's going to be so awkward. It's going to be so like embarrassing and it's going to be terrible. It's not going to work. It's like that's actually just. It's just alive from savings. I just think that's not true. You guys. That's it. And at least in our experience like that was just the furthest thing from the truth. And if anything it was like, it was very, very just like wholesome and sweet and beautiful. And like there was like, I think at this point like there's certainly like excitement about something new, but it's not like you're going to be like necessarily nervous because you are with your person. Like there's just, there's so much comfort towards that and like a random one off. Like there's just so much, so much history, so much relationship, you know, they're not like looking for anything other than to like connect with you. So I just think like, and also I'm the last person to really give great advice on boundaries. So I'm just going to say that right now. Like, but we did wait until the day of the wedding and it was beautifully intimate, special, wholesome, never once awkward. Like we certainly laughed and like we're experiencing new things together, but you don't have to like have this, I don't know, expectation of, and I'm not saying that it's going to be the most romantic, crazy night of your life, but in a way, well, in a way that doesn't look like the movies because it's just so, it's so intimate and special. And it's just, I don't know. I just feel like there's like so many people are like, I know their wedding is going to be terrible. Like so many things about waiting towards you. You don't have to know what to do the first night. You just figure it out. Okay. Exactly. And it's not even about like the big fireworks moments of like sex. It's not about the orgasms. It's about like being intimate together for the first time. And it's just so, I was actually super nervous and Caleb and I had had sex before and then stopped having sex for like two years when we became believers and then pursued. And so I had been there, done that with him before and I was still like, had giddy butterflies. Like I was so nervous to be intimate with him again. And so it was so sweet. And I just looked back on that night with just such like a smile on my face. Totally. Yeah. It was just totally. It's amazing. I was like nervously at the wedding. I was like, oh, it's time to go. I was like nervous. I was like, it was amazing. That is so. Yeah. I just, yeah, don't believe what people are saying. And I'm not saying it's going to, everything, you're going to have to communicate. You're going to have to say things that you don't even expect you're going to have to say, but it's everyone's just figuring things out. And I think that's what's also so special about it. And I don't know. Totally. Just be present and communicate. I do think that there is a, it would be good to have a conversation about both of your expectations before the wedding day in this area, which they had us do in premarital counseling. Yeah. Um, because I do think if you guys go in with different expectations, that's a hard place to find out that you're not meeting someone's expectation, your own expectation isn't being met. So I would say have a conversation that's pretty detailed about like an honest, like what's actually going to happen. But like what, I mean, in a way, yes, I think you should. I think, cause I do think I hear that a lot of people are like, Oh, I kind of was like thinking you can build it up a lot in your mind. That's the, that's the thing about waiting is that you can build it up in certain ways. And so just hash that out a little bit beforehand. Yeah. Yeah. It doesn't have to be perfect. Okay. But then the second question boundaries, all boundaries and how to like tips for waiting until marriage. Okay. Like I said, Kilba and I went all the way and then we wheeled out all the way back. Yeah. You're the one. We have boundaries. Oh my gosh. We didn't lay horizontally together. We didn't make out with tongue. We didn't. We sometimes it was just hand holding because we were too like excited and it was like, we can't actually kiss. Especially during engagement. Oh my gosh. Freakin. It was so hard. You're long engagement. It was so hard. So I just like the strict boundaries that you need. Like maybe you don't kiss for a couple. We didn't, we went seasons of within our engagement where we could not kiss each other because it was just like, you know what I mean? Like animals. You just ate his face. Yeah. Literally. I'm like, what is wrong with me? So you just had to be really strict with yourself. But I will say that people are listening to this and they're like, these people are crazy. It was so worth it and beautiful and having sex and then not having sex, there was a massive shift in our relationship. Like I felt the difference between like actually choosing to wait. And I think some of the big things that stick out to me. One, obviously our culture talks a lot about like cheating and fidelity and all these things. It has given me such a confidence in Caleb where it's like, this was literally the most like sexually charged time of our life was our engagement. And we chose to be pure, like fight for purity in it and chose to not have sex with each other. That tells me that if Caleb is at a water cooler with a coworker or meet some other lady down the line, I know that he has self control and I can trust him to like not let his feelings or emotions lead him to something else. And so one, it gave me like a deep sense of trust in Caleb as a man and him with me as well. Like we have this sense of self control in this area of sex. That's good. Second, I would say just this idea of like we couldn't just real like go back to sex to communicate with each other or like show each other love. We had to learn how to show each other love in other ways, which really deepened our relationship. It deepened our communication. It deepened just, I mean, so many areas of a relationship got so much stronger when we removed the element of sex. And yeah, I'm sure there are like a million other things, but I just felt like such a night and day difference in our dating relationship. That's so good, Abby. Yeah. It was like, it's one of the biggest things I'm like, okay, I know I got made it this way. You know what I mean? It was just so clear. Like this was better for us. So just know that like the fight for purity is worth it. And also it's like when Caleb tells me that I'm the most beautiful girl in the world, like I know that he only has eyes for me and he like means it, you know? So there are just so many benefits to it. And if you haven't chosen to do that, you're not like doomed or anything by any means. Yeah. So don't hear these things and think like, well, you're a great testimony. Thank you. Like that's, yeah, it's our testimony. Yeah. That's huge. I'm just kidding. I think it's important to remember too in like the culture of waiting till marriage is also that everyone's boundaries look a little different. Like Blake and I are both not physical touch people. So we can actually sit in bed together and we can hold hands and we can actually kiss and we are not gonna have sex. But I was just not. We were not like that. But everyone's boundaries are a little different and not okay and not to judge people based on their boundaries. If they're not going doing the same boundaries that you're doing because the sin and the part that you're trying to wait for marriage is the actual sex part. You want to create boundaries to help you not get to that point, but everyone's might look a little different. So have grace for other people. But that I remember what I was going to say. If you're more on the side of like, okay, this is really, really hard to resist. Like being with friends is always a great way to resist. Don't be alone. Don't be alone. Like I remember we would hang out with like one of my roommates. They're probably just like, they're all the time. They're just like, oh, it's just me and my name again. We had so many triple days. I'm not saying like chaperone, but they're onto something. You're not going to cross any, that would be extremely deviant. You don't need to call it that, but come on. It's essentially that, except it's not like my brother. Right. My little brother. Right, exactly. But it was just like people that made sense at the time or like our friends or go on a double date. Like I mean, there's just like so many other ways. Yeah. You're not like hanging out with us to be on a sex. It's like hanging out with us cause we want to hang out. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yes. But that's a proxy. It's the end goal was the same. Also having adult mentors that were already married. This is also just like not necessarily isolated to the area of sex, but like adult married mentors were very forthcoming about like what like they knew our goals and they also were very forthcoming about talking about them. Whereas like among our single friends was very taboo to like talk about, oh, they want to have sex. But like adult mentors were very like, like very, they would bring it up on their own all the time. And it was very like, we knew that we had someone to keep us accountable in that area and they weren't going to like ignore it necessarily. And so it's not like we were ultimately still making our own decisions as adults, but just knowing that you had that extra accountability to was helpful. Cause whenever we saw them and be like, they're going to ask, they're going to ask and it's going to be, I'm not going to lie. And so that was good too. But that is hard to find. But if you can seek it out, that is really, really helpful. We did have a slip like before a wedding or we did. And that was really sad. Cause I was like, we waited all this time and then we slipped. But I just remember calling a girlfriend and telling her and like talking through it. And it was like, she just prayed over me and was just like, it's okay. Like you're still going to, you know, it's just like, there's so much grace. And so don't think that I was like, perfect. We weren't perfect, but it was still worth it. Yeah. Wow. That was fun. Hopefully you guys liked that episode. That was fun for us. It's just so good hearing from you all. Okay. Exciting update. Now we finally have actual details for you, but we are hosting a live event locally here in Arizona, the Phoenix area, the details where it's always here in burn boot camp. We've actually done an Abbey's camp before and it was so fun. So we're doing another one and always here burn boot camp workout class and the day is April 11th at 10 a.m. There's no childcare for this class. Just a heads up. And it's going to be a 45 minute workout. The signups are live today. I believe they're live right now. So if you're interested and you want to go sign up, there is a $15 fee for the class. Which is cheaper than their drop in class. So they did us a favor, which was really sweet. Yeah. They have trainers to pay. Yeah. Trainers to pay. And also the last time we did this Abbey's boot camp to be transparent, there was a lot of signups because it was free. And then we could have a lot of no shows. A lot of no shows and people signed up out of state and just took spots. So this is like, we needed a little bit of a buy in. Sign up if you're going. Yeah. If you want to go, we would love to work out with you. We're going to have like a little bit afterwards where we can hang out and talk and meet and greet and pictures and like some snacks and stuff. So it'll be really, really fun. Yeah. It'll be really fun. Yeah. We can't wait. And we have a review to read. This review is from Haley. Thanks again to everyone who leaves us a review of rating, liking, subscribing, all the things sharing. This says moving to AZ. Abbey's and Addy. I'm a 29 year old mom of two. Tyler Boyz. We live in, is that West Virginia? WV. I can't. WV. I can't tell you guys how much I love listening to this podcast and correlate so much every time I listen in, usually while driving, I feel like I have a mom group session and truly you guys make me want to move to Arizona and be besties. I hate that I'm caught up because it means I have to wait until next week for the next one. Thank you so much for your mom advice, transparency, hilarious moments, but also the thought provoking ones too. Oh, thank you. So meaningful. I'm so crazy. Like that's such a sweet feeling because I feel that way about podcasts. I'm like, dang, I have to wait until next week. Right. I feel like that's something that I feel about us is so amazing. It's such an honor. Like there's just like, there's no other way to describe it. Yeah. I'm just like a really high honor. Yes. Thank you guys so much. If you guys want to call in and leave a voicemail, we'll say the number again. It's 602-456-9690. We always close out our episodes with voicemails from you guys. It's the best. So thank you guys for that. And oh, should we do an always hungry recipe? Yeah. Okay. I'm going to share the Rice Krispies treats I made this past week. Oh, they were so good. They were really good. They were themed or spring themed. It has Cadbury eggs, white chocolate chips, and obviously marshmallows. They were delicious. So I'll have the link below. Really easy to make and they went very fast. They're so good. My recipe is just a really quick, it's literally five ingredients. I've made it since Matt and I were in college, but it's quick, healthy, and affordable. And you can even make this for a lunch. And I don't normally cook for lunch time because I just don't simply want to spend the time on cooking lunch. But it has quinoa, ground turkey, taco seasoning, crushed tomatoes, and corn. And I top it with cheese and sometimes like sour cream or salsa. And then you can scoop the Fritos in it. It's just, it's so filling and the whole family likes it. My kids will even eat it, which is saying a lot. And it's just really easy one pot. And yeah, I kind of want that for dinner now. You use ground turkey. You don't like ground turkey. I know. I like it in this. Okay. Do you want to know where I got this recipe from? Yeah. I think it was on the back of my taco seasoning in college. I was like, God, it smells good. I don't use red quinoa though. Only use white quinoa. That's hilarious. I feel like college, learning how to cook in college is such a trip. I use red quinoa and it leaves like a film on the roof of your mouth. Except I think I did it wrong because I don't think that anyone would ever eat it. I don't know. I've even seen red quinoa at the store. I don't know. I don't even know what that is, Abby. Sorry. I think you got it from Aldi. Oh. Anyway, thank you so much to everyone who listens and who shares the love and also shout out to our in-person friends that listen to this every single week. I'm like, you hear enough of us. Why would you ever choose to just listen to us talk again? They're like, I love it. I debrief with my sister every week. So, oh my gosh. Sweet. I love you guys. Our online friends, our real life friends, we just were so grateful. It feels like the appropriate time to say that since we listened to all you guys talk today. Thank you guys. And remember, we're always here. It's hard to concentrate when you're worried about your health. It can feel like there's a wall between you and the rest of the world, like you can't be fully present. Hello, AXA Health. How can I help? At AXA Health Insurance, we build our teams with people who care. So when you need us, we're here to support you. For cover that cares, search AXA Health Insurance. Pre-existing conditions are not covered. It's hard to concentrate when you're worried about your health. It can feel like there's a wall between you and the rest of the world, like you can't be fully present. Hello, AXA Health. How can I help? 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