Legends Series: Singing with the Stars: Paul Anka Shares His Story
44 min
•Apr 8, 202612 days agoSummary
Paul Anka joins The Hollywood Godfather Podcast to discuss his legendary music career spanning seven decades, his recent HBO Max documentary, upcoming Broadway show, and his philosophy on staying active and healthy in his 80s. The conversation covers his songwriting process, the resurgence of his classic hits on TikTok, his family life with five daughters and a son, and his continued touring schedule across North America.
Insights
- Legacy artists are experiencing unexpected career revivals through social media platforms like TikTok, introducing their work to younger generations without active promotion
- Longevity in entertainment requires continuous work and staying mentally/physically active rather than retirement, with successful artists viewing inactivity as professionally dangerous
- Quality and substance in artistic work create lasting careers that span decades, contrasting with short-lived trends driven by marketing and production effects rather than craft
- Mentorship and industry relationships (like Don Costa's role in Anka's early career) remain critical success factors that newer artists often overlook in the social media age
- Health and lifestyle choices (diet, exercise, meaningful relationships) directly correlate with career longevity and creative output in entertainment
Trends
Resurgence of classic catalog content on TikTok driving new audience discovery for legacy artistsDocumentary and biographical content as career extension strategy for aging entertainersBroadway adaptations of artist biographies as alternative to traditional concert touringMulti-generational family involvement in entertainment and publishing businessesShift from heavy alcohol consumption to moderate wine and health-focused dietary practices among aging performersAI and technology optimism among older entertainment figures regarding future opportunitiesVeterans' advocacy and patriotic messaging integrated into entertainment platformsPublishing and copyright management as core business focus for legacy artistsInternational touring expansion (Canada, Europe) for established performersMentorship of younger generation through internships in publishing and entertainment management
Topics
Songwriting craft and melody-lyric relationshipTikTok's impact on music discovery and legacy catalog revivalDocumentary filmmaking as career retrospectiveBroadway theatrical adaptation and productionPublishing and copyright management businessHealth and longevity practices for aging performersFamily dynamics in entertainment careersMentorship and artist developmentConcert touring and live performance schedulingAI and technology's future impact on entertainmentLip-syncing and authenticity in modern performancesMusic quality versus production effects in contemporary industryVeterans' advocacy and patriotic entertainmentInternational touring and cultural exchangePersonal brand management and legacy building
Companies
HBO Max
Distributed Paul Anka's documentary 'Paul Anka His Way' which has been generating significant viewership
Primary Wave
Publishing company partnered with Paul Anka; his son is interning there to learn copyright and publishing business
Borgata Hotel Casino Resort
Venue where Paul Anka is performing April 17-18; he was involved when it opened and maintains relationship
Paramount Pictures
Granted rights to Paul Anka for olive oil product line; also involved in film adaptation of his recent book
ABC Paramount Records
Record label that signed Paul Anka at age 15 after meeting producer Don Costa in New York
People
Paul Anka
Legendary entertainer discussing his 70-year career, recent documentary, Broadway show, and touring schedule
Gianni Russo
Co-host conducting interview; longtime friend of Paul Anka; entrepreneur with vodka and olive oil ventures
Jeannie Raymond
Co-host asking questions; works for Veterans Association; grew up listening to Paul Anka's music
Don Costa
Producer who discovered and signed Paul Anka at ABC Paramount Records; instrumental in his early career
Luper Holmes
Director and writer for Paul Anka's upcoming Broadway show adaptation
Jason Bateman
Son-in-law of Gianni Russo; mentioned as being kept in line by his wife
George Gallo
Developing film adaptation of Paul Anka's recent book with $50 million budget
Engelbert Humperdinck
Contemporary performer; friend of Paul Anka; performs regularly in Las Vegas
Frank Sinatra
Referenced as influence on Paul Anka's generation and recording methodology
Steve Sharippa
Worked for both Gianni Russo and Paul Anka at different times in career
Quotes
"I'm above ground. I'm doing good. I'm healthy. Enjoying my work. Family's great. What's better than that?"
Paul Anka•Early in interview
"If you stand still, they throw dirt on you."
Gianni Russo•Mid-interview
"I've eaten enough. When you look at the way we've eaten all these years, they pile all that shit on you and everything."
Paul Anka•Health discussion
"I'm able to read a room real quickly. And I can pretty much figure out most people after about five minutes."
Paul Anka•Late in interview
"Music's never going to die, man. I don't think it has the political power that it used to. But I think as an entity, we're always going to have music in our life."
Paul Anka•Music industry discussion
Full Transcript
Giani's got the stories from the coast to countryside Genie's got the questions sharp as Sinatra's sway Every Wednesday night we take you all away From the back streets of Tinseltown to the Trittoria's Globe Old Hollywood meets mafia tales And you're about to know It's the Hollywood Godfather Where the big band plays and the stories don't stop With Gianni and Jeannie everywhere They're taking you to the top Keep it smooth and keep it classy Feel that swing nonstop on the Hollywood Godfather. Welcome, everybody. We're at Hollywood Godfather podcast. And today we are broadcasting from Chill Out in New Jersey. Let me bring our co-host on, Jeannie Raymond. She's at the racetrack. We're all over the place today. That's right. We are on the move, you and I. Well, the good news, though, is that we got one of our close friends. I've been promoting him all day here. It says Paul Anker today at 7 o'clock. He's coming on. He's a good friend of mine for many, many years. And we're going to talk extensively to him as long as he wants to talk. Because this is part of our new signature of legends. That's right. That's exciting. you know it's so interesting i met paul anchor so many many years ago i had to think about it it was the opening of seasons palace oh wow and i think in the 60s and 70s or 80s in vegas i used to go to this place called jubilation which was great it was the biggest disco at the time It was 10,000 square feet. Oh, wow. I kept two tables in there. And it's so funny because Steve Sharippa, as you know, who worked for me, worked for him first. Oh, really? Yeah, that's so funny. That's wild. So how's it going at Chill Out? Today was the first day. A bunch of people here. I mean, Brooke Shields, everybody's here. Oh, wow. I mean, yeah, we got Boy George. I mean, they got a lot, a lot of big celebrities. This is my third one of these. And, you know, so it's always fun to do these shows, number one. What was your first acquaintance to Paul Anka? Well, I've not met him yet, so I'm really excited. What do you mean as far as even though he's a kid? Well, I'll tell you, Put Your Head on My Shoulder, of course. Everybody knows that great song. and it is crazy on TikTok right now. Everybody's got this new thing coming out that they are singing that song and lip syncing with it. And then young kids are singing that song like crazy. So definitely let's talk to him about that. For sure. Yeah, that's I told my son that he was going to come on. And when I did, he was like, oh my gosh, mom, he's got TikToks going crazy with Paul Inca's song right now. So that'll be interesting to see, see how that goes and what he thinks of that. There he comes. All right. Well, talk, talk of my friend, about my friend. Here's Paul Anka. All right. Hey Paul, how you doing buddy? I can't believe it. I'm talking to you from a convention that I'm at in chill out in New Jersey. and we've been advertising you all day. Look at that. You're coming on. The people are coming in the room now to watch it. I can't believe it. Oh, that's awesome. How have you been, pal? I'm above ground. I'm doing good. I'm healthy. Enjoying my work. Family's great. What's better than that? I'll be in Jersey, Borgata, Mojica. Hey, life is good, man. In the middle of the Broadway show, so I'm happy. well genie was telling me what's going on with uh you're going crazy with this genie tell them what you just told me please this is genie raymond our co-host paul hi genie hi paul very nice to meet you my mom's gonna be so jealous she's so darling i grew up listening to to you I look back at all of the legends I grew up listening to, which wasn't my era, but I had my sisters are a little older than me. And we listened to you and to Elvis and to Tom Jones and Inglebert. But my son, who just is about to be 30, I said, guess who's going to be on our show? And he was like, oh, mom, Polinka. And then started talking about the TikTok. and that he's like that song is all over on tiktok tiktok is a different kind of animal in today's world and it's turned it's turned a few of my songs into a whole other thing with this younger generation my way puppy love put you out of my shoulder and uh we'll see where it all goes all i know is i'm a lucky man in his 80s who feels 40 so there you go i know that's amazing man it's so nice to be able to rejuvenate yourself without even trying well i'm not trying but i'm working hard as usual oh i know you but i'm talking about that they're just doing it now on tiktok and everything else yeah well the doc has just taken off on hbo max a lot of people are kind of getting the other side of who i am and what i've done so i'm pretty proud of the documentary and the broadway show which we'll have done in about a year and a half. I'm pretty excited about it. Yeah, you gotta let me know when that is. I'll come, please. I live right on 61st Street, so. You'll come to one of those cities. Oh, yeah. But the interesting thing is that, you know, when I first met you, I was thinking about it. It was like the opening of Caesar's Palace, I think it was. Yeah. That's how far we were back. In the early 70s, early 70s. Yeah. And then you opened jubilation, which I kept the table in that every night. My disco deck. Do you open yours? Yeah, yeah. And then that's when I met your father. And your sister. Yeah. How are they doing? Is he still alright? No, I lost my dad a while ago. The rest of my family's fine. You know, I've got the five girls. I've got the son. Nine grandchildren. I've got three of them living over in Europe. Oh, great. I was 18, so I carry her with me every day. But my dad was a cool guy, and he ran Jubilation. I think your store and our store were running all the business at the time. Yeah, that's great, though. So the last we spoke, when you couldn't do the show, you were launching everything, and now it's already done. I can't believe it. Yeah, we launched. Here we are. I'm sorry for the couple of past outings we missed, but you know the details. You lose friends and it doesn't hit in a smooth place in your life. But yeah, everything's going cool. The album's out. Everything's out. The tour's going to go through April, East Coast. May, we do California. We've got summer dates. We're booked until next March. We'll go back to Florida for March 10th. I'll say, hey, man, I got nothing to complain about. Everything's good for now. What can I tell you? Enjoy the moment. Enjoy the moment. That's all it is. Oh, yeah. I'm looking at what you guys are doing and it's incredible I don't know how you keep up that lifestyle, it's busy busy and you've always got so much going on but anytime I have someone on the show I try and learn a little bit about them and I learned you have five daughters and I am one of five girls and that's a handful I know that and then you have a son A lot of PMS in your family oh absolutely that's what I used to say PMS all must suffer oh well you know you're the mother of a 30 year old would you get pregnant at 12 oh you're sweet where did you get that hair that Johnny and I want is that all yours are you kidding me that's all my hair I'm looking at you What did you say? You got extensions in there? Oh, no. That's the whole thing. I've curled it three times today. I'm from Utah, Paul. And I flew to Oklahoma, to Remington Park. We've got a horse racing tonight. So I flew out here where my hair is just going crazy. Oh, thank you. Yeah, it looks great. Grabable. speaking of that i heard uh you said um your comment about uh what you first called put your head on my shoulders yeah my original title like you know many songwriters when you're writing your your your bass is your melody but we use vowels and we use different words because, you know, the note's only as good as the word on top. So I would fool around with the kids, and my first title was, put your legs on my shoulder. I cracked up when I heard that. A couple of the girls complied, so I kept singing it at every party. Oh, you guys are bad. Really? You think that's bad? Well, I think it's hilarious. I do think it's hilarious. so um so how old is your boy my boy is 20 he'll be 21 in September 29 what a ball I mean wow I look back that this excuse me but the age difference in your kid I had my first child I was extremely young I was 18 years old and had him but just uh and when they were my oldest two kids were eight and 10 then I had two more so just the shift in in that is so different so I sure you having a ball with your boy because your life got to be a lot different than well I'm having a great time with my boy he's growing up in this difficult complex world in a good way he brings me a lot of joy he also merges very well with all my grandchildren. You know, I've got some in their 20s. And, you know, I always wanted the boy, not that I didn't appreciate my girls. I had an amazing wife. May she rest in peace. And my girls are all solid citizens. And, you know, you raise girls differently and you know that they are different. Women are wired differently in a beautiful way. But having this boy later in life has really, you know, you could have danced on my grave years ago. But having him, I'm going the distance here, you know, and I know that medically, if we all stay healthy for the next couple of years, there's some amazing, amazing discoveries they're going to come up with. So I hope you enjoy the rest of the journey with him. And upstairs right now, getting ready for a poker game. And I may join in a couple hours. Yeah. So is he getting into business with you? he's uh getting a um he's going to be working at the publishing company with an internship the company that i'm partnered with primary wave and he's going to learn the business and start as they say at the bottom and he's going to learn the copyright publishing business and then he'll go from there yeah that's great that's fantastic i don't i don't uh i don't really push him in any direction these kids are smarter than you think oh tell me about it they figure things out and And, you know, that 20 to 25 journey is a little challenging. But once they hit 24, 25, they start to really get it. So he's on a good course right now. Ethan's a good guy. That's awesome. My oldest son is now 65. I can't believe it. 65. I can't believe it. I have 10 sons. I've been long enough to say that. No, it's crazy. But like you're saying, the kids are such a joy. I mean, I have some daughters. I have 10 sons. But mine, as most of my audience knows, it's unique because I've had 10 mothers. And they were real mothers. Oh, yeah. Oh, they were. And these sons, imagine having 10 sons being only sons raised by their mothers. So, you know, they don't have me at the head of their list. Yeah, exactly. No, but I had you, I lost count with you, I think, six. You had ten, huh? Oh, yeah. That's, well, that's a while ago. Man, were you crazy, man? That's a tough institution today, marriage. I know, it's crazy. Sometimes you don't know your wife until you meet her in court. That's wild. Well, you know. Are you married? Are you a married woman? No, I'm not. No. You're a divorced woman. I am. Wild and single. I'm just kidding. I'm not that wild. You know what the funniest thing, Paul? I'm not that single. What did you say? I said, why don't you say I'm not that single? Yeah. You are wild, Jeannie. I can tell. Don't fool me. You know what's so funny? Jeannie was a fan of the show. Yeah. And when I got rid of my co-host, I called her up. and how'd you call her? What'd you hear about her? No, she was sending us all kinds of mailbags. We had all this stuff. So from that point on, I said, listen, you want to try it? My audience fell in love with her. Yeah. I mean, this show, Paul, every Wednesday night, hits a million people. Wow. And I think half of it's because of her. Yeah. I don't know about that, but it's sure fun for me Paul because I work for the government during the day and then Gianni and I do this and it's so much fun for me and the people I've got to meet is it's I mean ridiculous but but it that was it I was just a fan and and Gianni would say you know send us questions if you have anything but I listen to a lot of podcasts and I think the first question I asked was about uh Spring Sinatra's son you know because Gianni is he has done so many things and so I just asked a question about that and here we are so it's a lot of fun. They're doing a good job so far you wild and single woman I love you you're hilarious thank you I also like I said I listen to a lot of podcasts Jason Bateman is your son-in-law right as of this moment yes yes for right now Well, I hear that your daughter keeps him right in line from what he says. And boy. She does. Well, and he talks very highly of her. And so that's kind of fun. I love to hear that. He's very complimentary. But that's a lot of fun. So your movie's out on HBO. Will you tell us so all the listeners can go and watch that next? Tell us the name of it. Well, it's called Paul Anka His Way. A Single and Wild Crazy Guy. It's on HBO Max. And it's been on for about a couple of months with big ratings. So I'm very fortunate with that. And it kind of tells the journey of how I started many years ago as a kid at 15 years old. And proceeds to ending the whole journey on Times Square. when I sang, I think last year, the year before, the closing song of My Way, which I rewrote. So it's got a lot of content with a lot of people that, you know, it's such a diverse society that we live in culturally in the world. I never assume everybody knows what you are doing all the time. You know, I know there's probably somebody out there that sings better than I do, blah, blah, blah. And we're all very lucky with the success that we get. But I never assumed that everybody is aware of everything that I do or what I've done. So with the doc, what was poignant for me and really important was to just lay it all out there. So those that were not really fully aware of what I did, I wanted to get that point across and to get it from my point of view, because one day I won't be here to tell it. And the content of it is all about that. Things I've written, experiences that I've had, etc. from the late 50s right up until a couple of years ago. That's great. The Broadway show is going to be another challenge because with that, it's a different forum than documentary. So obviously we're really laying out how do we want to posture that. That's a bigger and Herculean kind of fence to jump over. But I think I've got a great guy, Luper Holmes, who knows what he's doing. And I'm pretty excited about that now. All my efforts are going to go toward that. Are you going to do the Broadway play yourself? No, no, no. I need a 15. You Johnny. No, I got a producer. We've got the money. We've got a great writer. It's going to be getting a young actor, an older actor and a great director and a great book by Rupert home. Oh, that's great. No, because it's funny. They asked me to do Broadway. That's that's eight shows a week. I go to the bathroom eight times a week. That's all I do. Eight times a week. I get to eight shows a week. You got six shows and two matinees. I can't believe it. Oh, but Johnny, I'm not in it. This is a story about my life. I'm not in it. I know. I'm only a part of the creative level, and they'll all be young and amazing actors and singers, and they'll do the six shows a week, you know, sit in a row and keep my fingers crossed. I was going to say, that's a bigger commitment than ever at this age. Oh, no six shows anymore. I'm done. I did that at the Steel Pier in Atlantic City. I did it in Vegas for 12 weeks in a row. It's so funny. I saw you at the Steel Pier. Yeah. A goddamn horse that wouldn't jump. I had to kick it in the ass. Imagine that. It was so crazy. It was a big white horse. Do you remember the diving horse? Yep. I had to follow the horse and move in. I'd work till 11 at night. That's crazy. Crazy. Now, the Bergata, in about 10 days, went back to the Bergata, which I was very much a part of when it opened. And I'm pretty excited about that. You know, for all my friends in Philly, Atlantic City, I'll be at the Borgata Hotel. Oh, great. Yeah. What's that date? Do you know? Yeah, it's going to be around April 17, 18, something in there. We've got New Jersey, Englewood. We're going to hit Borgata. We've got going to two dates in Canada, Toronto, and Caesars in Windsor. So we're busy. You know, I like it. I love going on stage and making the people happy. You know me. Well, that's your blood. I mean, people say to me, and I don't have half the success, 10th of your success. I like doing what I do. What am I going to do, sit home and watch television? Forget about it. I don't want to do it. There's so much television. There's so much books you can read. And if you stand still, they throw dirt on you. Yep, yep. I like that analogy. And, you know, it's fun. You know what I love about being around all of you guys And the people that have been on the show, all the different actors and stuff like that, you guys don't sit still, which is right up my alley. I'm not one to ever sit and do stuff. I'm always on the move, you know. My mom always says, well, I hate to ask you to do something because you're always busy. And I said, I stay busy because I like it. You know, it sounds like you do, too. You're like Gianni and Inglebert. My gosh, Inglebert, he's doing shows like crazy. it's amazing to see I'm not getting into ageism because I don't believe in it I think that you have to really be your own detective, know your body and if you love doing something that's very very important and that's all that I've done I've taken care of myself all my life I like to work, I'll continue to work at my schedule and then you see what happens you go year by year But you can I can see you not doing what you do Yeah. That's basically, it's probably two-thirds of your life doing what you do. Well, I balance it with my family, and I balance it with stuff I love to do. And it just is what it is. People have to get off that, oh, you're too old, and who's old? And forget about age. Just live it, man. We're all going and we're gone for a long time. And people with experience, that's something to give and share with people have to stay active. Medically, they'll tell you, you have to stay active. Keep talking to people out of your life. Keep stress out of your life. Don't have the wrong person in bed with you in the morning. All that counts. You've got to add it up, right? I've been working on that yeah you're still working on the right person in Bedway in the morning so I saw something that you did today that Gianni had told me I don't know if you do it in the morning or when this practice is you have olive oil every day I have a shot of olive oil I think I talked about it on CBS Sunday morning and on maybe Bill Maher. I have oil with lemon. I don't eat a big breakfast. I eat boiled eggs, sometimes some avocado. I don't eat big meals, but the oil is in the morning and at night. And I have lemon juice in the morning, just hot water and lemon juice to clean up your system. And that's it. You know, I woke up one day quite a few years ago. I said, I've eaten enough. When you look at the way we've eaten all these years, they pile all that shit on you and everything. Oh, my God, yeah. What am I doing? So I just get, okay, I'm in this passage of my life, 50 on, and I know what your body starts doing. It starts betraying you so many times. The main thing is to be intelligent about what you're putting in your body and how you live. I mean, you do it with other stuff. You go waste money on all kinds of other stuff you've got to take care of. So, you know, I lived in Italy in the 60s. And loved Italy. I went over there, recorded in Italian. It was very successful. But I learned another culture. I learned how they lived. And when you look at those people in the mountains and what's part of their menu, what's part of their daily life, social living, it all adds up. So anybody out there that's trying to be nice to their body and wants to live a painless life, if you can, you've got to eat properly. You've got to exercise. Listen to all the stuff that's so simple and don't abuse yourself. It's that simple. right yeah you know and as you say when we're out drinking and hanging around as we get mature you realize what the hell am i doing this one i drink red wine now and i went from red wine to white wine i got off a heavy booze yeah i do the same thing with you with avocado i've been drinking olive oil i think was in my baby bottle my grandmother started that years ago and i think it works. I think it really works. Well, in case of a tie, it works. I don't know. Everything's scientific. You look at the world today and where it's going and AI, which is going to change dramatically as we know. Oh my God. I'm not fearful of it. I'm very hopeful that it'll get managed and that people will be taken care of. But I think that we're into an absolute new, amazing chapter with AI. Once we get all the political stuff out of the way and the world wakes up, hopefully AI and this new world that we're living, I think is going to be an amazing place to live in. And I'm hopeful for our young people because everything's going to change. Medical, all kinds of occupation. Oh, yeah. It's going to be an amazing time. Yeah. You know, it's interesting because we have a privilege that we've lived so long and saw so many changes. I mean, I told my grandson, I remember getting my first television. He said, what are you talking about? I listen to the radio. And then we got a TV. I used to sit and listen to my little radio in the corner in Canada. And then my dad brought a little TV in. He said, we're getting colored TV tomorrow. And he brought a piece of plastic. And he put the plastic on the TV set. It was blue, red, and green. And that was me. But, you know, I talk it up just so much. I don't live in the past. I don't have a rearview mirror. Only technically when I'm talking with new artists, I try to impose upon them how important it is to be really focused on their craft, to be good as the enemy of great. When you think of how we recorded back then, Frank and Sammy and Dean and the way we had the process, it was simple. There was no tricks. There was no technology. You had to really know what you were doing. There were fundamentals that you wanted. Today, I don't know who really can sing good. I have no idea what all this stuff is. Oh, my God, the effects and all the... Yeah. I mean, when you go to see a guest, it's like ridiculous because it's not the person you're hearing on the radio or on the recording. Yeah, well, there's a lot of lip syncing going on, and I'm not going to go further than that. I don't like to demean my fellow artists. Yeah. A lot of form over content. You know, there's a lot of shit going on everywhere. I don't know what's going on at all. So that's how they like to spend their money. But you never are going to get away from quality. You know, there's some good new people there today that are writing, that are singing, that have great quality. And everything with great quality and substance has some longevity to it. So when anybody comes over to me or a manager and says, I've got this kid and he's really hot now. I said, tell me how hot he is. Tell me how long he's been around. Yeah, a year or two. That's it. See you later. Oh, we have a lot of short careers, as you know. The good news, the smart people are listening to the Dean Martins and the Sinatras and yourself. Then you know you have a career. You can look back 10, 20 years. You made it. You know, I see the effects of that. I think that we don't quite understand these young people today, even though we're raising a different society. They dig out stuff. They're smart. They're figuring things out. And whether it's music or film, they get down to the source and the nitty gritty of what was good, what they can understand, where the passion is, all of that. So it's all good. Music's never going to die, man. I don't think it has the political power that it used to. But I think as an entity, we're always going to have music in our life, whether it's AI, with people that are legitimate. It's there and we know how it hits us. Right. And then people know quality, too. They're not going to settle. They know a Vita bag, they know a Birkin bag, and they know somebody that can sing sometimes. Yep. No. Thank God. Yeah. So, Paul, if you don't mind telling me, how did you get started in this business? Did you always grow up loving to sing, or was you more into the writing of it? How did that work for you? Well, I was a drug dealer at age 14 in Ottawa, Canada. Were you naughty? I'm just like, I have heard it all. I live in Utah. I hear some wild stories. I was a kid in Canada and going to school and writing and winning awards for my writings. And my dad put me over at the local newspaper because I was a writer. I was in shorthand class. I didn't like shorthand. And I didn't like the teacher. She didn't like me. So I asked for a music class. I put me in a music class. And I started messing around with the piano. And I was a big lover of music. All the rhythm and blues song. Black music was just it, as it's always been. And one day I was sitting in church and there was this girl in front of me who was just, you know, it's the first time all the bells went off. And I looked at this girl and I said, wow. And she was like three, four years older. You know, girls can look very sophisticated compared to young boys. Found out her name was Diana. and I went home and I wrote this song. I'm so young, you're so old. Not Shakespeare, just from the heart from a 15-year-old. Wow. Singing at parties and she thought it was cute. You know, no Swift was swapping at the time, nothing. And I kept singing it around town and I got this group together called Bobby Soxes. We played at the local fair circus that was in town. And then I got a hundred bucks. I saved up from my paper route and it was a caddy. And I got an introduction to a record label in New York, ABC Paramount. And I went down and met a genius, Don Costa. He's the guy that did it. You know, you can look at all these stars today and where they're at. There's always a team behind them. They don't do it alone. You've got to really, you know, take your hat off to those that were very substantial. And Don Costa was the guy. You know, I sat there banging away my jeans and my jeans. Oh, my God, yeah. And Don said, geez, what am I listening to? You know, pop music was in his infancy stage then. So he said, where's your parents? I said, they're in Canada. He said, well, can you get them down here? He said, we want to sign a contract. So it started right there. And Don Carson put my dad and mom down. And we signed a contract. And that was about two weeks later. I was running down Broadway to a record studio at Bell Sound and recorded Diana and you know the rest of the story. It was American Bandstand four months later. Yeah. So did the teacher start to like you? She's like, oh, that little shit. I never saw her again. I never saw her again. I didn't want to see her again. I went back to my school a few years later. My desk was there. You know, they were honoring me. I had a little plaque on there that said, Paul Anken once slept here. I hated school I was in grade 10 for two years I love it that's hilarious I never heard that story that's phenomenal that's what I love about Jeannie Jeannie digs things out I couldn't even think of these questions she's all nosy that's a single swinger they dig everything up they want to know everything Johnny that's right Inquiry Mind That's it, Inquiry Mind Well, that's an awesome story Okay Did you ever see Diana again Did you ever get a swap spit with diana after that song did she say he said it first oh i said earlier we never swap spit oh but uh after the record was a hit we took some pictures and there's a lot of publicity but i'd already been to italy and japan and france i found women that really knew what they were doing, man. I was this young teenager giving them back. No interest ever with it sexually. I got very active. Very active with that record. I made up for all the rejection all over the world. I could just imagine you and Gianni in Las Vegas. I'm telling you. These two handsome guys running around. He was the main guy. There was something coming. you've been a star for so long in that order what in that order you've been a star forever then you're bad I don't know what stars are you know I always look at that idle star stuff and I've never kind of lived it because I learned at a young age starting out So, you know, none of us were sophisticated. We all came from modest backgrounds. You know, we traveled this journey of success, crawling along, trying to say to ourselves, how do we deal with this? Who are we? You know, it's one thing to be the person, and then you're trying to be the person that you're acclaimed for, the artist. And it doesn't happen quickly. You don't have the wisdom to deal with it, let alone try not to be an asshole at a young age, you know. So when I looked at all of that, I said, you know, the one thing I'm going to do is not get involved in wanting to be an idol or a star. You know, people put that on you because that's the way cultures work, you know. But look, if you're successful and you're respected and trusted, that's all I want out of it. People respect what I do and know that I work hard to do what I have to do for them. That's it. That's one thing you've had the respect and the admiration for all your fans for so many, many years. generations of them and they're still with you that's god bless some of them are there we got a lot of new ones now oh yeah I used to get panties on the stage now I get some support stockings a couple of wheelchairs outside of the Florida but they're loyal I love them madly well Paul we had Inglebert on the show and I'm so close to Las Vegas and so I said hey I want to come and before the show was over his manager had set me up with some tickets and we went down and saw Inglebert in concert it was maybe December I can't remember when it was but went down there and saw him Alan Margulies Paul knows Alan well I started working with him from the Fountain Blue good guy I know he still manages So you came down from Utah to Vegas, right? I flew up. Yeah, I just jumped in my car. You live in Utah now? I do. And so I just. You've got to come down and see my show in May in Vegas. May? You don't even need Alan Marguerite. And I don't even need Alan? Well, I was so excited. You can come and see me in May in Vegas, yeah. Oh, I would love that. There you go. That's an invitation. There we go. So she's going to show up just so you know. Oh, I hope she shows up. All I do is work, work and work. So I love and I love Las Vegas, but it's so close. I would love to see one of your shows. But what I was the reason I was telling you that is because at a certain point, all the ladies got up and ran right to the front of the stage to see Engelbert. And there was a few of them. I was, you know, one on her walker. She was, you know, getting ready to throw her support hose up there, I guess. But yeah. Hey, we all have our fans, don't we? Yeah, I think it's great. I went to see him at Westbury. Yeah. For my birthday this year. Yeah. And he stopped the show and sang happy birthday with the whole audience. He's a fine artist and a good guy. I've known him and Tom Jones. Yeah. Forever. They've sung my music. He's part of the old crew. Yeah. Those guys were very friendly, and they were cool. Absolutely, yeah. Well, Paul, thank you for being so generous. I've been waiting, obviously, to hear of all your new accolades, and you have so many. I'll be at every one. Thank you, John. And I'll buy a ticket. You need tickets. You just let us know. No way. No, no. You'll be my guest, my boy. No. Not a problem. But I wanted to give you one thing that never comes out about Jeannie on the show. Jeannie works for the Veterans Association. And I met her through a veteran. She takes the time with them. You know, she appreciates, which not enough people in the whole world recognize all our veterans. She's, I mean, an asset to our government. That's what she does every day. Well, you know what? I do the song I wrote for the film The Longest Day, which was a classic by Daryl Zanuck. Every actor in the world was probably the best war film ever made. And I dedicate, whenever I do The Longest Day, I dedicate it to all our men in uniform with such courage and sacrifice. I dedicate that song to them because they are sometimes a forgotten group. They're one of the backbones in this country, man. Without question. It's a wonderful job, and I do feel privileged to do it, to get to work with them every day. I'm so happy about it. So thank you. And I'm sure they love that too. I just wanted to make you sure, Paul, that you know she's just not a pretty face. I'm not so glad to see you, Tucker. One thing I learned through the years, Johnny, is I'm able to read a room real quickly. And I can pretty much figure out most people after about five minutes. So leave Jeannie and my psyche in my hands. I got it. I got it. It's called experience in your life. Oh, huh? Yeah. Thank you so much. Bring your girlfriends or whomever you want. to the show. I fill up my car and bring all the wild Utah women down to see Paul. I'll start finding up a posse. You bring all the wildest women you can find and Utah will take good care of them. Well, remember, she's got Emily's phone number. Not a problem. All right. You bring all those women, but just know I've never liked group sets. You know what? I may have to fly down and see this one. Because I don't know where to put my elbows. Oh, my God. You're hilarious. You're in trouble. Well, it's a pleasure meeting you. I'm so glad. Like I said, I'm going to be on vacation. I said, but I'm not missing this. Do not do the show without me. So I drug my laptop and everything with me. I'm so honored to meet you. Well, thank you, Jeannie. It's been a pleasure to be in your company. And my buddy, Johnny, you take care of yourself, pal. continue doing it are you making you're making olive oil what I'm doing now my last book was such a huge seller George Gallo wants to make a movie out of it and he got a big budget for 50 million dollars so that'll be my 48th motion picture but I was asking you about olive oil olive oil do you make olive oil I was making olive oil I got the rights from Paramount. So I was making Jenko olive oil, all the Italian products. But now with the tariffs and the importing, there's not enough margins. So I stopped. I needed to give up something. I had too many things going on. Yeah. Well, that's a good thing. Yeah. My vodka was picked as the best vodka in the world. Really? When was that? Well, it's from Hollywood Godfather Vodka. Yeah. Don't you have a bottle there, Jeannie? Show them the bottle. I'm in a hotel room. Oh, that's right. I forgot. I threw it to home. John, did you work with Southern Wines, Larry Rubo? No, I didn't go through Southern because I was bringing it in from Europe. And then when the charis got so big, I stopped bringing it to America. And I sold it around the world. Oh, but you didn't go through Southern Wines with the vodka. Well, I know them. I'm not even bringing it here anymore, though. Oh, okay. Yeah, because Rubo's the guy. You know that. Great guy. Oh, yeah, I know. I remember introducing him at his restaurant on Sahara Avenue to them, and next thing you know, he went to work for Southern Wines. I love him. Yeah, he's a great guy. He's a great guy. Oh, my God, yeah. Pillars in Las Vegas. Love him. Yeah. Well, thank you again. God bless you. And all your new ventures, congratulations. thank you Johnny keep doing it your way alright that's right bye Johnny goodnight Paul love you goodnight thank you so much sleep warm bye bye bye Gianni's got the stories from the coast to countryside Jeannie's got the questions sharp as a natra sway Every Wednesday night we take you all away From the back streets of Tinseltown to the Trittoria's Globe Old Hollywood meets mafia tales and you're about to know It's the Hollywood Godfather Where the big band plays and the stories don't stop