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Listen Now: Mind the Game - The Stephen Curry Interview

14 min
May 1, 202630 days ago
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Summary

Jason and Travis Kelce feature a clip from LeBron James and Steve Nash's podcast 'Mind the Game,' where Stephen Curry discusses his shooting mechanics, influences from Steve Nash and Reggie Miller, and how he developed his unconventional but highly effective shooting form while managing body composition changes throughout his NBA career.

Insights
  • Elite athletic performance requires balancing foundational fundamentals with creative adaptation; Curry's shooting form evolved from strict mechanics into a flexible, efficient system that works across different body positions and distances.
  • Coaching intervention at critical moments prevents performance degradation; Don Nelson's weight room intervention during Curry's rookie year prevented strength training from disrupting his shooting mechanics.
  • Physical transformation in professional sports demands specificity; core strength and movement efficiency matter more than brute strength when maintaining elite skill performance.
  • Mentorship and observation of peers shapes playing style; Curry's game was influenced by watching Steve Nash's court vision and Reggie Miller's off-ball movement from an early age.
  • Continuous refinement through feedback loops maintains peak performance; Curry works with shooting coach Brandon Payne to identify and correct subtle mechanical deviations during practice.
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Podcast platforms becoming primary distribution for athlete-led educational content about elite performanceCross-sport applicability of mental performance and competitive mindset principles gaining mainstream attentionDetailed biomechanical analysis and shooting form optimization becoming standard coaching practice in professional basketballAthlete-to-athlete mentorship and peer learning replacing traditional top-down coaching modelsBody composition and strength training requiring sport-specific customization rather than generic approachesLong-form conversational format preferred for deep technical and strategic sports educationYouTube and Prime Video emerging as distribution channels for premium sports content alongside traditional podcast platforms
Topics
Shooting mechanics and form developmentInfluence of mentors on playing styleBody composition management in professional athleticsCore strength and movement efficiencyOff-dribble shooting techniqueBasketball fundamentals and foundation trainingMental preparation and competitive mindsetCoaching intervention and performance optimizationRange extension in basketballReggie Miller's off-ball movement styleSteve Nash's court vision and passingDavidson College basketball programNBA Summer League performanceFree throw line drills and balance trainingShooting form consistency across different scenarios
Companies
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Mind the Game podcast is available to watch on YouTube as a distribution platform
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Mind the Game podcast is available to watch on Prime Video as a distribution platform
People
Stephen Curry
Guest discussing his shooting mechanics, influences, and career development with LeBron James and Steve Nash
LeBron James
Co-host of Mind the Game podcast conducting interview with Stephen Curry about basketball mechanics
Steve Nash
Co-host of Mind the Game podcast and subject of Curry's discussion about influences on his playing style
Jason Kelce
Co-host introducing and promoting the Mind the Game podcast episode featuring Stephen Curry
Travis Kelce
Co-host introducing and promoting the Mind the Game podcast episode featuring Stephen Curry
Reggie Miller
Discussed as major influence on Curry's off-ball movement and competitive style during childhood
Del Curry
Stephen Curry's father who coached him on shooting mechanics and encouraged him to develop his own form
Don Nelson
Curry's rookie year coach who intervened to prevent excessive weight training from disrupting shooting form
Brandon Payne
Works with Stephen Curry on shooting mechanics refinement and identifying form deviations during practice
Bruce Fraser
Uses Curry as demonstration example in pregame and post-practice shooting drills for foundation and technique
Bryson DeChambeau
Mentioned in context of a golf-themed episode of Mind the Game where Curry and Nash played golf
Quotes
"LeBron and Nash are legends and on Mind the Game, they get into the X's and O's and tactical breakdowns that really help you appreciate the game."
Jason or Travis KelceOpening segment
"I think one of the most impressive things is that you came in, you know, six, two, whatever. And obviously super skinny, super skinny. You know what I'm saying? Like I remember like super skinny, fresh out of Davidson, super skinny."
LeBron JamesMid-episode
"He walked in there and cussed out everybody in the room. It's like, he's lifting too much weight."
Stephen CurryDiscussing Don Nelson's coaching intervention
"Everything is about the foundation. Like how does your body move through that range where you have, you know, complete control of, you know, your moving patterns, not necessarily like brute strength, but efficiency."
Stephen CurryLate episode
"You've gone on to be the greatest shooter of all time by like a long margin. Like range, accuracy, dexterity, off the move, left, right, leaning in, leaning back, like you do it all."
LeBron JamesMid-episode
Full Transcript
To all the 92 percenters, we're dropping something in the feed today. We think you basketball fans are going to love. All right. If you haven't heard it yet, LeBron, James and Steve Nash have an incredible podcast. That's right. It's called Mind the Game and I'm not going to lie. It's pretty next level. I would assume it would be unbelievable as I am a fan of both of their games. Yeah, this is for students of the game, though. LeBron and Nash are legends and on Mind the Game, they get into the X's and O's and tactical breakdowns that really help you appreciate the game. I mean, when LeBron James is breaking down plays, you're talking strategy with Steve Nash. You're going to get deep into the brains of two actual basketball geniuses. So it's I mean, it's pretty much a masterclass in basketball. And here's the thing. They also talk about mindset, preparation and the mental side of the game that applies to basketball, football and your life. Exactly. Whether you're a basketball fan or just someone who wants to understand what it is like to compete at the highest level, this show has got something for you. So do yourself a favor. Go check out Mind the Game. You're going to learn something. I guarantee it. All right. And here's Steve Nash to tell you a little bit more about the show. Hey, 92 percenters. Steve Nash here. Here's a clip from one of our latest episodes to give you a taste of what LeBron and I get into. If you like what you hear, check out Mind the Game, wherever you get your podcasts. Or you can watch on YouTube or Prime Video. Cheers. Doing this way and one this way. Thank you for doing this. It's our first official golf podcast. Yeah, they heard Mind the Game. They thought the game was basketball today was actually not Mind the Game. We say Mind the Game. I was watching the Bryson DeChambeau. Oh, the Breaker 50. Breaker 50. I mean, I knew you were good. I was losing my mind. I only watched half. You matched him. I watched the whole thing. Yeah. I mean, that's being kind. As you could, I lose my first shot. I lost my mind, too. There's like a little small gallery behind. Oh, there was. That was following us. And so I knew the whole concept. I knew it was Bryson's a week before the radical. I'm like, all right, this is the best. I think best golf I've played in my life. And it's so funny. I was watching one of the holes. I don't know what hole it was and you was like, I'm going to give it a little grunt. One of his drives and he got him on the drive. And you can and Bryson, obviously, this is what he does. Like this, he's like, oh, I can tell it's the world. When they got up to the ball, he was like, I think that's your ball. He was like, oh, man, I drove him. Like it was crazy. He didn't want to give it to me. I think one of the good parts, too, that I was watching, too, and you was, I think Bryson asked your question like, who was your inspiration? Like, you know, obviously, you know, in the game that we all know. You know, you you mentioned Steve and you mentioned Reggie, you know, and obviously Reggie makes so much sense and is terrifying to competitors like myself and all the competition over the years. How did that? How what made you kind of watch those guys from the beginning? And it's funny that I'm sitting across talking about the lights. So that's it. I mean, we all got history in the game, playing against each other the whole deal. But my rookie year, we played in a preseason game outside and in Palm Springs. So like Indian Wells, 10 or so. Indian Wells is my first time, like I actually seen on the court and to the point of super intimidated. I still do some of your when you're in the starting line or the national anthem the line, you do like the little leg stuff. I still do it. It's like I was watching everything you did from across the court. But growing up, like I knew I was a past first type of point guard. Like my dad had actually told me. Oh, shit. No, I got called Del Curry right now. He'd tell you they actually had to tell me to shoot. He was like, no, not this house. Not this house. You ain't gonna be there. But I was like, just love the creativity being like it felt like we had similar statures where as a point guard, being able to handle being in the trees, getting the ball where you needed to. You saw angles that didn't even make sense. Your change of speed. You can control the tempo. Got everybody involved. Like there was just something fun about that. That is the way that I wanted to play fast forward to Davidson. I was a two guard and had to kind of expand. I was there's a video of me as a 10 year old running around with a Reggie Jersey. Just because, you know, I just love his competitiveness. The way he moved off the ball. I didn't know that that would be a huge part of my game. Once I got to like how am I going to actually make it to the league type vibe? But that was your style was like exact. I tried all the behind the back pass of this day. One handed, left handed, like all that type of stuff. Just seeing the floor a little different. It felt like he was kind of the model for that. What about your pops too? Obviously the inspiration that you saw every day. But like as your pops being a pro itself, anything like you took from his game. Like, I mean, quick, quick, quick release. Quick release. Yeah, every video you see it has a seven in the corner. One like one drill and then quick release. He had the high arc and release too. Yeah, I couldn't get that. So it was like almost comparison and contrast of I want to be a great shooter. I want to have a quick release, but I also have to own my own form. Can't really. Has to go in at the end. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? We got to feel comfortable with what you're doing. But did you guys ever talk about it? Like quick release? Yeah, we talked about that a lot. When I was in high school, changing my form, I used to do like the little slingshot situation. And to the point of seeing when I watched myself on camera, it was like that thing looked like it took forever to get up there. But I see your point and went in. But I got the varsity. I was like, you know, it's probably not going to have things getting swatted to the eighth row. And you was able to you was able to dissect that? No, my dad. Your dad called it out as I was making that transition. I wasn't with it at first. Right. I was because I knew he was going to have to break down all the fundamentals of everything that I felt comfortable with to then master like a new form. I felt like it too much. Yeah, it was like, I don't want to do extra credit on home on the home. I already know the formula. Like, I got to recreate it. And obviously it worked. But I feel like someone who loves shooting, shot a million shots, always, you know, obsessed with it, watching you shoot. Like, I think I have a bit of a classic shot. I get it to the clay. Yeah. The pocket and shoot. What I think you brought to the game. And I love for you to tell me I'm full of it is you don't really stop. So like you talked about this shot as a kid to now it's the same shot. But up here, like, I don't really feel like you stop. And if you do, it's like the splits only probably on like just standard cash and she would to our stuff. People like I would teach clays form to anybody who say, Hey, how do I shoot a basketball? I would like pull up with a clip of a cladding. And it's just that's freaking perfect. Ten out of ten. Every no notes. Right. But to your point, it helped me off the dribble because it's kind of I'm going to call it an orthodox, but it is a one piece shot that no matter if you're really all the way on balance or just offer, if you got it on the right hand, left hand off the dribble, like whatever it is, I kind of can get it here quick enough to do the zone and I still have all my power. You know, I don't lose anything through that. So that's helped me, especially at six, three, like in the league, no matter who's in front of you, really feel like I have a chance as long as I get them to drop their hands a little bit, I can get it up there quick and I don't want to have any wasted motion. Was that by design or was that just happened? That's just how I shot it. There wasn't much thought to that part other than when I was in high school doing that transformation, I guess you call it. Because I also feel like that is a part of your range is that you like instead of stopping and having to use all your like you're using it all in one motion. So like he just kept backing up. Where's this going? And it's like a flick. Like I got in between to see this last summer, you know, the first time I was joining forces, I got to see it at the practice every day. Just like a flick. It didn't matter. You know, certain guys in our league or certain basketball players all over the world, they have to get in a certain pocket in order for them to even get to here or how it's like when he touched the ball, by the time he does what he needs to here, it doesn't matter where's coming from. I come from here, come from here. Quick, quick, quick. Like, and that's a great question. It's like, did that, did that, did you learn that or it just kind of happened? And it's like, it's just, it's kind of national. Yeah. Like there's always a reset like summertime. You're working on mechanics. Like my guy Brandon Payne, he'll, we'll talk about it. And if I miss two or three in a row, he started looking. I'll know it's because I don't have the ball. Like if we talk in the middle of the frame, I don't have it more middle to right, like I'm more kind of doing that. And it's just a, you get a little lazy, right? But I've stopped to call that out. But then once you get into, you know, the game and the flow, there's not much thought to it. But it's interesting because like necessities of mother of invention, you kind of invented something. Like you've gone on to be the greatest shooter of all time by like a long margin. Like range, accuracy, dexterity, off the move, left, right, leaning in, leaning back, like you do it all. But like you, I don't know if you could do that if you had picture perfect form. I'm not saying you don't, but you invented a way of going through the zone. Like you said, off the dribble, like it's up. And that gave you more range. And they give you more dexterity. Like, by the way, we just not, it's not really recreatable. I'm not telling kids. Hey, it's so, you know, so Bruce Fraser, yeah, we use you as an example a lot when I'm doing a breakdown drill, like I'll do like pregame stuff or after practice stuff where to the point of being able to get to my base, like he'll bring you up as a demonstration of like you use, you have such a solid foundation where, you know, get your hips down, get low, like you're feeling every part of your foot, your feet, and you're using all of that force to kind of get through pushing in the ground. And that's a, that's a foundation you have to have to then build off of that, you know, creativity and that looseness up top. So that's like, that's part of the natural progression of foundation to confidence to then, okay, now I can experiment a little bit. So maybe it's not necessarily a thought. It's like you hammer that down so much that now I have the ability to say, okay, what's going to help me in the game or if I need to stay out of the trees, I can get my range back. Oh, I got that's in there because I have this. And if I always, I still have to go back to that will. Yeah. We do our stuff at the free throw line where you're doing like the spins and you have to be in balance. That's, that's your world. Like that's what I learned. But I also think one of the most impressive things, I know we're talking about a lot of things, but the most impressive thing is that you came in, you know, six, two, whatever. And obviously super skinny, super skinny. You know what I'm saying? Like I remember like super skinny, fresh out of Davidson, super skinny. And obviously, you know, our league, you know, you know, throughout the course of a season, flights and everything, you know, can be taxing on your body. Yeah. I think one of the most impressive things that a lot of people don't talk about when it comes to you is that the weight and the strength that you've put on and still being able to shoot the ball in that capacity. There's a lot of guys that we've seen come in at a certain weight or a certain, you know, body frame and they're told to put on weight or they're told to put on strengths and it can affect their shot. You know, and it's actually, it's no way it could have made it better. But shit, it seems like nothing ever changed. How was that? Like, did that worry you in the beginning? Like, oh, shit, y'all tell me I got to get stronger now. Funny stories. So like rookie year and training camp. So I came in as, you know, a shooter in the draft. But Don Nelson was my coach and going through training camp or something. Sorry, Summer League started. I think I probably shot like 30 low thirties or three and training or in Summer League and then you come into training camp, you know, a couple of months later, like still working, getting through, trying to get comfortable with where shots are coming from and Don Nelson, he went in the weight room because to your point, I came in a hundred and eighty pounds, maybe they're trying to get me in the weight room, doing all these lifts and stuff. I'm shooting like trash and training camp for the first week. He walked in there and cussed out everybody in the room. It's like, he's lifting too much weight. And to me, I didn't, I didn't know that as a concept. Because I always just wanted to get stronger. Like most of it was just vanity. Like, hey, look better than Jersey. All these mirrors are on here. You all tell me I got to look like this. I'm trying to look like this. Like, I didn't think about it in terms of shot. I know that there are, there's a range of like body composition that matters to making sure everything moves right. So if you're, you know, if you're doing a big transformation, you can't change how your body moves. I never thought I could get to that point. But then when he caught it out, I was like, wait, are they really messing up my shot? But that balance of being able to appropriately like get your body to move efficiently, like a lot of, to me, is core strength. We're talking specifics. Everything is about the foundation. Like how does your body move through that range where you have, you know, complete control of, you know, your moving patterns, not necessarily like brute strength, but efficiency. Hope you guys enjoyed that. Do you want to hear more? Remember to check out Mind the Game wherever you get your podcasts. And thanks to Jason and Travis for having us on the feed.