BREAKING: Trump Threatens Invasion to Cripple Iran

We got breaking news of the war in Iran president Trump threatens to take Carg Island Keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever this is Seculo We want to hear from you Sharon post your comments recall 1-800-684-3 Now your host Logan Secular the Seculo it is June 11th welcome to the show Wilhains in studio We're gonna have Mike Pompeo joining us a little bit later. I we do some breaking news items One of them is about the war in Iran as president Trump this morning I said that they are not opposed to and are considering all the options including the seizure of Carg Island, which is a major obviously area for the oil industry in Iran We're gonna talk about that But I also did want to let you know we are live right now as there is a breaking news item the Pentagon It's currently on lockdown. We don't have a lot of information right now other than that there is a hazmat crew on site There is potentially some sort of Sensor that went off due to a substance that was found in the air that there may be some sort of issues I don't want to bring up any you know big Conspiracy theories or even theories at this point. We're just gonna let you know that we are covering this and here's exactly What is known at this time if you're watching us live? They have sensors that monitor the air quality within the Pentagon One of those sensors or more picked up what they call a scent of a biohazard They took precautions immediately Evacuated certain areas put the Pentagon on lockdown in certain sectors and have issued a shelter in place order For the Pentagon as well as called in hazmat crews They expect this lockdown to Last several hours According to what is being reported as well as there is something being tested a substance so whether or not This substance actually is a biohazard or not. They will find out. Hopefully it doesn't appear. It wasn't just a malfunction There is something to be tested. Yeah, and hopefully this is just ultra being ultra sensitive and a precaution We will keep an eye on it though and we will cover it as can again If you've not been to the Pentagon if you've never experienced it when they say a pentagon is on lockdown You're talking about probably nearly 30,000 people that work in the Pentagon city being this is a giant Uh a giant structure with tens of thousands of people that work there on the daily basis So it's no small thing to lock down the entire pentagon facility We know at one point it was an evacuation of certain portions But now on lockdown what could last a few hours on the other side of things president Trump has made some pretty strong statements specifically about Iran including the potential need to take car garland at this point which would And again what that looks like because car garland for those who don't know Well, you can give us a brief background on it. This is where the major oil refineries exist We're talking about gas prices going up significantly in america. It is because Largely due to the fact that car garland exists right now and we're in a conflict with iran. That's right. So car garland itself is where 90 percent Of iran's oil exports go through so if you were to Seize control of that you effectively seize control of the entire iranian oil industry It wouldn't just be at that point Blockading their ships from going to sell it you then have control of the oil itself This is also where president trump has Paid homage to what we did in venezuela Specifically saying that you know when we took control of venezuela's oil and gas markets it worked out very nicely Brilliantly for both of us. So we'll get into more of that read the exact statements and have sound from the president when we come back Yeah, we should hear directly from the president because he even questions the fact of whether it is not only worth it in terms of He believes it's very much worth it in terms of the economic uh impact that it could have but And i quote he's not sure that america has the stomach for it What does that mean? Is that because of the loss of life that could come from this? Is it about troops that essentially have to be on the ground at that point and not only troops? We're talking about taking a more major oil refinery. There's gonna have to be crews staff people that understand what they're doing here If you want to take control of this Phone lines are open for you. What do you think? 1 800 6 8 4 3 1 10 again? Also covering that hazardous material found at the pentagon. That's the pentagon currently on lockdown We're going to keep that coverage going as well. If anything new breaks, we will do it while we're live here 12 to 1 p.m Eastern time We'd love for you to join us. So phone lines are open 1 800 6 8 4 31 10 1 800 6 8 4 3 1 1 0 we'll be right back Welcome back to sec yellow again kind of got two touch points right now that we're covering What is president trump just this morning making statements saying that it is time? He believes that it is time to seize Carg island basically the oil refineries of iran On the other hand right now as we speak live and I don't want to You know blow this out of proportion and also don't want to pretend it's not happening There's been a hazardous material incidents what they're calling right now at the pentagon Hasmat crews have entered There's a large police presence. We know they are on lockdown potentially for a a number of hours that will come from this this came from some sensors and now they are testing materials So we're just getting the details out. I know there's not a ton of information yet to share But I wanted you to know that we are keeping an eye on it if there is more than just the baseline Uh conversation we will talk about it again the pentagon for those of you who maybe can't picture this We're talking about as will said almost the size of the city. We're talking about tens of thousands We're close to 30,000 people that work daily at the pentagon probably between 20 to 30,000 people that are there This is a large incredibly large facility. So for them to go on a full lockdown It is not so simple I mean maybe simple in terms of they probably have the actions ready to go But it is incredibly disruptive For not only the people that work there because you gotta think how many people work there that are not involved in this kind of work Uh that are just staff and of course for all their families and so on so we're going to see how this plays out over the next few hours We'll definitely see how it plays out over the next hours. We're on air In the meantime though, well there is updates in this war in iran as escalations are growing Well, and I think one the pentagon is going to be on high alert Precisely because of what our other topic is the pentagon being the department of wars Facility where the branches of military have their staff and all of the planning And things that go along with our military operations out of the pentagon. That is the headquarters for it so at the same time that you're having the president And issuing statements is the second day in a row That the iranians in united states have been trading fire back and forth Uh after the result of that that apache helicopter being shot down on monday Now the president is saying we will be hitting iran again Uh it says very hard tonight We the united states will be hitting iran very hard tonight at some point in the not too distant future We will be taking karg island and other oil infrastructure points and assume total control Of their oil and gas markets much like we have with venezuela Which is working out brilliantly for both venezuela and the united states of america Thank you for your attention to this matter We should also play this sound because it happened just this morning when the president called in to fox and friends as he likes to do Here's what the president had to say this morning Look my preference has always been take karg island. That's been brian knows that I spoke to him a long time ago larnes knows it I spoke to him a long time ago. I said my preference would be that I don't know that america has the stomach for it to be Honestly, you need to make a fortune, but I don't know that america has The stomach I think they'd like to see us come home and why would the president say I don't know if america has the stomach for it Obviously, uh, he's going to do what he thinks is in the best The best outcome for america However, what you're seeing and he is paying a tribute to there is the division here at home over this war Even on the conservative side even under his base saying we're done with this He's saying I don't know if america has the stomach to do what he thinks is necessary Because karg island which is controlled by the irgc in the military It's not just out there on its own with oil companies operating it and maybe some security guards. It is uh fortified Because it is the very heart of their oil industry It is the heart of their economy in many aspects and They will not give that up without a fight and it wouldn't just be You know air raids destroying things if you want to take the hub of their industry You would have to go in and seize it and what would that require special forces marines actual troops going into combat with other troops that are trying to protect that That would come at a cost that would come at the cost of potentially american lives I think that anyone that is looking at this. Yes, it seemed What we did in venezuela was so seamless with no loss of life that Uh, there there were casualties and even that was uh was concerning to a lot of the american people This would be Much more difficult than the sneak Uh attack of taking maduro in the middle of the night and therefore then asserting control over their entire industry This would be a real fight with the iranians. Yeah, I want to hear from you about this phone lines are open We're going to take some calls right now. 1 800 684 31 10. Let's go to michael in florida watching on salem news channel. Go ahead Michael Michael yes, go ahead Uh, I just wanted to say that they everybody in america must say thank god they're in america Thank god for trump. I'm not a trump Uh, man. I'm not a politician But what he has done to finish this war that's been going on for 47 years We've had killed americas that killed people all over the world that'd be the iphone Fuck my children phoned fox for me about 30 years ago. I'm 82 and and and They uh said where should we go next and I told them 28 29 years ago if you're going in anywhere else, it should be Uh iran because iran on the biggest perpetrators of terry in the world and i've said that time and it's the same thing today They they anybody his bola And anything that worries me about the news often they don't give it the true way it's through you know, uh, that if for example, if His bola whatever it is they fire rockets into isra for like Hours of rockets every day then he's not expected. Oh, he's not a tech limited It's bola It's it's weird the way often when you come to Michael even that where we talk about the the terror proxies has bola hamas The hootie rebels even their own irgc agents around the world I think that is why this other story that we're covering the the pentagon Uh being on lockdown right now It is why a place like the pentagon is on heightened alert for something like uh some sort of Biohazard that could be released into the air system because the the threat abroad that we are currently engaged in Uh with the president now saying hey, we may take out their entire economy Is a regime that uses terror? To their advantage and have for the last 47 years So I think that these two stories aren't isolated when you start to see how quickly A sensor going off at the pentagon leads to an entire lockdown of the pentagon because of the very words that the president is Is putting out there saying hey guess what We're gonna hit them again tonight third night in a row much harder And you know what we're also going to do take their entire oil industry too That is when the pentagon and and any other place in washington dc is naturally going to be on high alert for some sort of Terroristic type threat that could be coming. We are getting some sources indicating that this was a false alarm situation But I've only seen some a few sources who have said that they have received that I'm gonna wait till we have an official word here before I report that but hopefully and look hopefully that's the case Hopefully this was a false alarm and or it was an alarm that was very very sensitive and was set off And people jumped into action as they should so we'll keep you updated on that Hopefully though that is true and the pentagon is safe with that though. I do want to hear from you I think then these situations happen in Overseas in iran and also you want to start thinking about what this looks like at a global impact when you've had And not a global impact Decades long impact Maybe you got kids or grandkids. We got a call related to that. What this looks like for their future as well Phone lines are open for you if this maybe moves you to call in 1 800 6 8 4 30 110 I'll be honest. My voice is struggling a little bit right now So if you want to call in it'll do me a lot of uh big favor Actually by calling in to help me with some of this airtime jill in new jersey though. Go ahead Hi guys, so um i'm on gods in control however, he's not here yet and I feel that if we're going to have any kind of future for our kids grandkids the united states We have to end this we have to Kill the threat Of what iran does to the whole world. We can't we can't let this go. We have to Continue on with the fight and let our future Children live in peace joe I think what you're saying. I hear loud and clear the The fact that what iran did to begin their revolution as the islamic republic was take americans hostage We we all remember the imagery. We've seen it And we know about the iran hostage crisis Most probably have to remind some people iran has continued to hold the world hostage in many ways for 47 years With the threats that they put forward with their terror proxies with the the the global instability they've caused And you're right. It is time for the hostage crisis Not in the literal sense of what happened at the embassy But what has happened around the world the fall out time for that to end Yeah, I mean the fallout has lasted decades and decades and decades our entire lives 10 plus years before we were even born This was I'm not 10 plus years, but number of years before we were even born this all really started And now here we are finally maybe handling it now. None of that has been Done exactly how we've all expected our plan and it may be probably true for president trump But here we are the same time we are monitoring that lockdown at the pentagon Shelter in place order still in the effect as far as we know So we will keep that updated as well and you can give me a call but go to aclj.org right now become a champion if you can That's an aclj.org Welcome back to secular some phone lines are still open for you at 1 800 6 8 4 31 10 president trump saying pretty much it's time for actually we should actually play back What president trump had to say for those who are just tuning in right now this is by 2 Is that what we're going to go for? Yeah, this is to take a listen to what the president had to say just this morning My preference has always been take car garland. That's been brian knows that I spoke to him a long time ago Lawrence knows it I spoke to him a long time ago. I said my preference would be that I don't know that america has the stomach for it to be Honest with you to make a fortune, but I don't know that america has The stomach I think you'd like to see us come home Yeah, and when he's talking about have the stomach for it. I mean look, let's just be brutally honest At that point we are talking about the loss of lives of our troops Do they have the stomach to take on what it would look like to take car garland? He said has always been his preference. He understands the economic impact from it. Look. He points to venezuela Is saying look look what we've done there We know people are hurting at the pump and that with oil in general of course all Expenses have gone up that is something president trump certainly ran against I don't think he really wanted to be two years into his term And talking about inflation. I think people had hoped president trump would come in and the opposite would happen That's how he sold it So whether you agree with that or not that is how it was sold now things that change time it changes The world is very different think about 2000 In 2001 pre 9 11 what president bush at the time what he was running on He was running on compassionate conservatism being a different kind of republican all of that changed in september 11th You could say a similar start situation started occurring when maybe there was this uprising that was happening From the iranian people saying we are done with being murdered en masse in our streets And president trump saying we are going to stand behind you That does change even the american psyche. I will say looking at our chat looking at the calls that come in Part of me feels like though there isn't There's a social media pushback and of course you have some of those Voices who were maybe on president trump's side or campaigning for him have flip-flopped Because of this you still see a mass majority of our listeners and supporters who feel like that this is a necessary war And i'm leaving that up to you to make that decision I'm not saying whether right now it is or not to me when I thought about the original or the aversion of this It was a full regime change new government free iran that to me is very different than where we are right now Let's take carg island and get our oil prices down not saying that's not necessary not to say it was not good I'm just saying that I understand his concern with people Risking their lives over and we have a call about that and I think that we should take it It's gonna wallace who's calling online too watching on the salem news channel go ahead Yes, I think is an acceptable risk for loss of life in the military if we have to take Carg island because we've already had casualties The barracks bombing in bay root. I think nobody's ever Compensated us for that. So now president trump is doing the right thing going forward And any military man knows when you involve yourself in an operation there is a possibility of casualties I'm sure pete hegec and uh Generals under him are going to try to minimize those risks and those casualties as much as possible, but I agree I think they should do it Well in wallace, I think that you're exactly right one The the iranians have killed americans and have american blood on their hands and they have for a very long time You mentioned the bombing of the barracks the marine barracks in bay root You also Have to realize that during much of the iraq war many of the casualties of americans were not from the The party of saddam hussein they were from Iranian proxy terror groups or Iranian militias That were either funded directly or just sent by the iranians and the irgc to go and exert their control over iraq That is exactly what most of the fighting was for the length of time. We were in iraq. It wasn't just the uh the initial phases fighting back against the the regime that was in control there It was actually fighting against the insurgency Of shia militias that came from iran that were trying to take control of iraq They were killing the iranians were killing americans. That was if you will Went from a regime change war and a and a mission for weapons and mass destructions It it evolved into a proxy war with the iranian regime It was direct fighting between united states military and iranian backed militias. So It's a fantasy to pretend like we haven't been in conflict with iran for a very long time That's not what the media would have you believe they would have you believe that this all of a sudden everything was fine Why did we poke the bear? Why did we go after iran? No, it's been going on as wallis pointed out for a very long time and we have lost a lot of lives The difference here Is that it? Hopefully the end goal of this conflict is to end the loss of life of americans by iranians and end the The ability they have to hold the world hostage to have the region Be so grind to a halt whenever they decide they want it to and people can say like they've never exerted this Uh this force over the Strait of Hormuz before are you kidding me? They're very existence And the threat that was there caused everyone to have to tiptoe around the iranian regime and just let them be more Entrenched that in and of itself is exerting control over the Strait of Hormuz. They may not have closed it to raise prices But it existed. Well, here's here's just the truth just because you didn't know it was happening Doesn't mean that it wasn't happening Just because you weren't paying attention Doesn't mean that it never existed And we run into this problem a lot on social media. We're running this problem a lot Whether it's iran, whether it's israel, whether it's america, you know, our brains are very very forgetful We have a very short-sighted view on history Sadly We have to come back here each and every day Monday through friday and sometimes we got to give a little bit of a history lesson We got a phone call coming in. I want to take it because it's an aclj champion before we go to break juli. Go ahead in california Uh, yes, my first question. I guess is why would we even talk about taking this island because We've lost the surprise and with the way um, we have these felt uh like, um Uh Soldiers that can go in and they can have the time they don't even know they're there They could have taken this probably without much risk If we didn't talk about it and tell the enemy what we're going to do Julie, I think there is some truth to that but a lot of it is a negotiation tactic and then the other hand Is I don't think taking this definitely goes in without the loss of life uh, we Don't necessarily fully grasp the concept of iran. I feel like in this country How big how vast and how powerful really that country is an a grand scheme of things Sure, we're able to go in with technology strategically take out the heads of it But we are not talking about a little desert country in the middle of the middle east And I feel like that is the way we kind of picture it even though we know that's not the case Well, and julie here is the other side of that as well Iran knows that that's a very sensitive target because It is where 90 of their industry goes through if you want to wipe out their economy or or have that leverage over them Did you go after that? That's one of the reasons why it is controlled by the military and the irgc It's not just all of a sudden they're surging resources to it. That's just who is in control of it. So I I understand that and i've seen similar people saying like wow the president shouldn't talk about it You lose the element of surprise. They know and from the beginning They have fortified this knowing even before there was a conflict that would be a target That would hurt the irgc's ability to maintain control over the country because they run the economy there So, uh, I don't think that anything was given up by mentioning it. They already knew that that was a target All right phone lines are open for you all want to hear from you We've got a second half hour of the show coming right up You don't get us on your local station find us streaming live now or later on archive. Have you get your podcasts? Keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever this is secular And now your host Logan secular Welcome back to secular second half hour of the show right now We are still covering kind of two items one of which is president trump's indication that he would like to take carg island Which would take the oil refineries from iran. I have to do that by force have to do that with Let's say it troops on the ground likely and he's not sure the american people have what he quote unquote said the stomach for it What do you think 1806 8 430 110 mike Pompeo is going to be joining us on the next segment Have I heard from a secretary of Pompeo in a few weeks here? So let's hear from him about What his thoughts are in the current situation in iran a feeling that is always where his expertise shows So we'll discuss that coming up in the next segment. I also i'm going to take your calls at 1806 8 430 110 at the same time The pentagon still on lockdown now It does feel like the news is starting to slowly move off from it because I believe there is hope the sources are saying That this would be a potential and if you again, this only applies this right reason We are not covering this fully It's only applies you're watching live because if you're listening to this later on not 12 to 1 pm eastern time It's not 12 31 right now where if you you're in the eastern time Then this may not apply anymore because you may know the results already at this point So we're not going to necessarily cover too much of this but we are keeping an eye on it Again that lockdown that's happening right now at the pentagon. Some people are saying now it was a false alarm Hopefully so prayerfully so 1806 8 430 110 to get your voice heard on the air today Though as we will have time for some calls and some comments about this I actually want to hop over to dorthy in california first. I'm just gonna go ahead and take one of these off the top Dorothy go ahead Hi, thank you for taking my call Um, I just wanted to say that by and large I have been against having the marines go in for boots on the ground But since this has happened I feel like we don't have any choice but to go in and finish the job I do support our president 100 percent Um, my son is a marine and I'm very proud of him so I totally understand the risks and everything that um any parent or family member would have to go through If we go on with the foot on the ground and the risk involves the loss of life But I also feel I appreciate your I really appreciate your statement I'm only cutting off because there's an ambulance in the background And it's very hard to think for our listeners to listen to but I I won say thank you to your son Thank you to your family that's serving know how how much we appreciate that how important it is But I think what president trump looked at the one thing you can say about him You may be a forum against him whatever you feel like He sometimes can wear his feelings and emotions and honesty Uh very very clearly and openly in a public and here's what he said the american people He's not sure have the stomach for it have the stomach to take I don't think you'd hear that from a lot of Think about the 9 11 world or think about any of the wars that we have been in the last couple decades There isn't that honesty With the american people somewhat of the risk that's involved in the fallout that could come And I think when you have president trump hopping on fox news and saying that it comes from a place of I don't say vulnerability, but at least of uh contemplation being clear-eyed about it And I think when you contrast that with what we saw from senator murphy yesterday saying you know president trump has lost interest In iran he's now focused on the ballroom and other things. It's in reality This I think does kind of give up here into the commander in chief role Where he would admit I think this is the best objective for us. I thought it for a long time I just don't know that americans are ready for it because that goes back to what he even ran on of No new wars no things of that nature I think we go back to our caller wallis that This isn't a new war. This is something that's been going on for a very long time in the united states has been engaged in conflict with iran Either directly or by proxy for almost half a century if you think about it that way That at some point you can't keep doing this you got to go And fix that problem and stop the threat to americans to our military And in that if you took over their means of their economy Very well could put them in a position where it also brings up the regime change issue where Could the people at that point with their entire economy crippled Make a move that completely ends the islamic republic of iran Secretary Pompeo is going to be joining us in the next segment. I want you to be a part of the show too Look like I said a little earlier. I'll be honest as well. I've always been struggling a little bit today. So I need you I don't say that much, but I need you call me it call me and get on the air today 1806 8 4 30 110 1806 8 4 3 1 1 0. We'll be right back Welcome back to second below secretary Pompeo is joining us right now and phone lines are open for you at 1806 8 4 30 110 secretary Pompeo and will you can take this too? It feels like every time we have you on it's like we had john A week ago we would have been saying hey, it looks like we maybe headed towards the end of this conflict in iran And here we are now we're going maybe we're going to take carg island You know it always seems to get back to this point It never really takes big step forward in terms of what would be the quote-unquote peace deal Of course a lot of this has to do with the fact that you are negotiating with a very different regime Well surprise surprise the terrorist regime can't seem to get to the finish line on a Agreement that americans through a diplomacy would be happy with What's your take on where things stand right now? Obviously we saw the the apache helicopter which thankfully Our members of the army that were the pilots of that helicopter Were rescued no harm there But then the trading of fire back and forth obviously still under the guise of a ceasefire, but For all intents and purposes that appears to be over What's kind of your take on where things stand as of today? Yeah, hi guys. Look my my sense is this you described it perfectly this regime can't take yes for an answer We've offered them Incredible solutions that would allow them to continue. They couldn't be terrorists anymore. They couldn't have the proxies They couldn't have nuclear weapons or the capacity to make them and they've they've just said no no no Couldn't be clear with the attack on the apache helicopter and we shouldn't forget Firing at multiple u.s. Military bases the fact that we stopped them and americans weren't killed Isn't Isn't to sign that the iranians are weak, but rather that we're just have a remarkable set of technologies But they are trying to kill americans. We should be unambiguously clear about that I think that's what you saw and heard from president trump this morning when he spoke He can see that his patience His time his commitment and effort to try and get to an outcome that would satisfy the things that keep americans safe And while while still delivering an outcome for the iranian people that would would be workable Is just not likely to succeed and so I think we are witnessing the beginning of a return to significant combat operations The opening of the strait of hormones through military kinetic activity physical activity And ultimately I think this will come back to harm the iranian regime and that's a great thing for the united states of america Mr. Secretary you've been uh very consistent from the beginning of this operation about what the outcome should be what the goal of military, uh, the this entire action starting with operation epic fury should be and that is that the iranians should no longer have the ability to To wreak terror around the world and we're seeing now this discussion about where president trump says, you know We may be taking karg island. That's where 90 of their oil exports go through What Strategically would that mean for the regime at this point? Obviously there they've lost leadership They've lost a lot of their capacity to organize in a meaningful way that they used to have But now if the u.s. Military one were to take control of what would effectively Shut down their economy. How would that play out and what are the risk reward scenarios kind of For our audience to look at You bet look You can never predict in war precisely how things will turn out But we have a confused fractured broken iranian regime. I talk about them We all do as if there's a singular enterprise. I doubt that that's truly the case today I think there are competing factions, you know hardliners Against hardliners. There's there's no such thing as a moderate But they are all competing for internal political power and I think you I think you're seeing that play out So we're the case that we were taking this blockade which has been incredibly effective at minimizing iranian Wealth and resources keeping the world safe for all by itself a very powerful effort Where we to deny them the capacity to move product in and out of the the major terminal and karg They would they would face another even more difficult set of decisions about how it is They're going to pay the police the beseech The internal forces. How is it you're going to buy munitions all the things that that often don't get thought about right? Wars are often about logistics. Can you pay the workforce? Can you pay the military? Can you pay the freight to get these weapon systems? Taking karg would or denying at least denying karg for economic benefit for the iranian regime would have an even more serious Uh, uh harm to the regime and create tremendously more opportunity for the iranian people and then second You know, I think it also signals president trump talked about surrender at the front end of this I think it signals that the united states is there and prepared to do the necessary to get to the right outcome That too will give The iranian resistance movement the capacity to begin to shape and as the internet reopens To begin to think about what this might just look like in the aftermath of the islamic republic Well, and you mentioned that it could give some sort of window for the people of iran and that's what those of us that have followed the The conflicts with iran that the united states has been in for almost half a century If you go back to the hostage crisis, you know, this is not a new threat to america But there's been this kind of competing narrative for The this conflict of people saying, you know, this is unnecessary. This isn't has nothing to do with america We know that's not true But then those of us that really want to see a free iran that want to see the persian people return to Their place in the world and not be ruled by these Theocratic death cult members that only want to usher in this this awful theology on the world where they dominate the world When when you do talk about something with a fractured leadership all these pieces Seem to in some way be falling into place Then an economic turmoil where they can't even provide for their people even though they don't do a very good job of that The president has said his stated goal in this is That they will not be a nuclear threat that they will not have that capacity Do you think even the way this plays out? There is still a hope obviously We can't predict the future, but there is a hope that the iranian people could find a path forward without the mullahs in charge I do I think I think it's absolute in fact Given all the remarkable work that the united states military has done under the direction of the commander chief president trump I actually think now it is more likely a more inevitable Well, what we never know well, what we never know is timeline, right? You never know when these regimes will crack and break and the people will find a method by which to rise up And change the fundamental nature of the folks that are leading them And so I think we now have created more pressure more opportunity for something like this to happen So I think it's far more likely to happen today as a result of Epic fury midnight hammer and what we're doing even as we sit here Then it was before all of that The second thing I think is worth noting is it does matter for the iranian people We we went we don't want 40 000 more of their citizens to be killed That's just basic decency and and american morality But this matters an awful lot for the united states of america. You can see energy prices are set globally You can see what this the impact this has on the american economy and the global economy To get a regime that no longer can threaten the strait Can no longer threaten israel can no longer threaten the gulf arab states, right? They're bombing their fellow muslim brothers throughout the gulf Uh, if we can eliminate that capability and can create a set of conditions where the regime is no longer Intent on doing that. We are doing a really good turn for the american people Well as we look forward these days, we see what has happened this week The slowly it re escalating into right now just trading strikes But as our audience watches and digest this news that comes forward What should they be looking for? As as this looks what should be tells even to look at that things are going back to a full-scale confrontation Or yeah one way or the other Yeah, I think it'll be pretty apparent By the way, I hope I hope your audience doesn't think for a moment. I think this is easy It's a very complicated set of problems. There's a reason it's gone on 47 years And I applaud president trump for having decisively acted and achieved what we already have It's a it's a good thing for my family and for for everyone who's watching I think you'll begin to see in the coming days an iranian regime that's going to have this really hard choice to make they're going to see the full force of american might and Somewhere inside the regime Some leaders going to have to step forward and say this is enough they will do what you know They've referred to as drink from the poison chalice and conclude This is not time to continue the fight and exceed to the demands that president trump has put on them Secretary poppo, thank you so much for joining us. We always appreciate your insight It's good to have you back on today as we know summer is continuing on so thanks for Hopping in with us. We appreciate it with that being said I am going to take a lot of your calls and comments coming up in the next segment I want you to be a part of the show. So she'll let mary jim. Cheryl stay on hold I'm going to get to you. We still have two lines open at 1 800 6 8 4 3 110 Like I said, will is able to take that segment my voice is struggling a little bit So I would love for you to call in and help me out right now 1 800 6 8 4 3 110 But I didn't want even with a little bit of a scratchy voice for me to spend a day without Asking you to support the work of the aclj. We're in one of our biggest moments right now The constitutional battles that are happening in this country and the worldwide battles by the way That are happening that protect your rights and the rights of let's say europeans who have similar struggles are People in the uk or or those in in israel as we have aclj jerusalem None of that happens without your work today. We're actually in court in washington today We filed the supreme court also a religious liberty case. I think it's what's going on in the gavin nuisome You've heard about those those church finds There's so many things that are happening the cnn case That we are saying you can't just be out there lying. This is enough is enough with that but We're on Really the front of all of these issues But that's only because people like you support the work and really those that support the work on a month after month basis Which is really great So if you can at any level starting I think at five dollars just for processing fees alone Go to aclj.org make your donation today and opt in to become an aclj champion We got two lines open. They'll be right back with your calls coming right up All right, y'all did me a favor all of you called in and I appreciate it. We're gonna go through a lot of these calls today So many of you have a hold for I mean close to a half an hour. We appreciate it Let's kick it off with jim who's calling in kansas watching on youtube great place to watch interact. Let's go to jim jim go ahead Well, thank you. Have you let me on your sherry day we had our Republican meeting for our district and I got a visit with the gentleman who's running for the house seat Who is a retired green beret colonel? And I asked him about his sit why he thought about the situation in iran He had two major concerns. He said first if the regime were fighting against would get control He's concerned about the safety of the iranian people people in the middle east and then around the world and the other concern he had is if they could take over the The uh, uh place where to run the ship troop that uh He was concerned that they would stop a lot of the problems with the shifter and they would not be able to get through And cause a lot of economic problems for people Jim I think those concerns are very valid. I think a concern of saying if this regime comes into some sort of supreme power Are they going to be any different than what was now president trump says these are people who are easier to work with and maybe they're more moderate but Time and time again, that doesn't seem to be the case. Well in why president trump's kind of uh, Red line if you will what he said is the objective of this is that they cannot have nuclear weapons. Why? Well, because we've seen what they're willing to do to people that are friendly with them like cutter They were just launching rockets non-stop missiles at their neighbor that they have a good relationship with when this conflict started So they're irrational they they aren't it isn't russia or the soviet union when the you know The nuclear arms race and the the the diplomatic situations with that There was the there's the doctrine of mutually assured destruction that we both have enough nuclear weapons that the other won't use it Because we would destroy each other. So therefore we have them. It's a safety net, but no one's going to use them Iran is irrational They don't care about mutually assured destruction. They want a nuclear weapon not as a hedge against enemies To actually use it. That's why they're developing all this technology. So To the the man who's running for congress there. He's not wrong. That is why this is necessary They are crazy enough to do. Yeah, we got a lot of calls still kind of actually want to hear from president trump He spoke about the uprising of people and the understanding that iran is at a very different spot than maybe a lot of people expect It doesn't say answer the questions, but at least you know where his heads at bite sex My message to the iranian people is they're afraid because they have no guns And the other side has guns and they have a rally and they get shot They hung the wrestler and his two friends. They hung them from a crane. Believe it or not Lyle it is a very top wrestler and they hung them they've killed At least 40 40 to 50 000 people and the people are afraid, you know, when you have a machine gun staring at the face Or when you have four snipers on four different buildings shooting people in the head It's hard to have a rally. Okay I think I understand that saying that look the idea was the people would have an uprising here But they're scared and they should be in some ways. Let's go and continue on the conversation This I swerves us a little bit, but she's a champion. I want to take her Cheryl calling us line five. Go ahead Uh, I'm so excited my very first call Uh, jay, I saw you when you were a kid your dad helped me start my home school in south carolina And I was able to take my kids out of a failing system And it turned them into intellectual Superpower I love hearing that I love hearing that Cheryl. Thank you so much for being so supportive over the years I want you to know i'm calling today number one is In the midwest our families have given so much blood and treasure I'm still offended by all these Wimpy people on the left who think they've done something special Uh, no, um, my family has like nine people Who are all through everything except space force? So we don't cheer for just one. We just let you figure out what god is calling you to You know, I've got three nephews one is in the uh Uh, uh, and he helps now with those special planes. He's teaching them how to fix them You've got my other two that ended up in the coast guard Their daughter ended up with brain cancer and it was they were able to fix it and then mine is uh Years in the army. He's gone from a private to a lieutenant colonel You just don't know what god got before him amazing. Cheryl. I want to say first Thank you for your support beginning aclj champion. Thank you for your long-term support And obviously thank your family you and as well as your children your niece and nephew everyone for their incredible service to this country It's always amazing to hear uh again. It sounds like sometimes those calls are planted I assure you they're not so I appreciate you Cheryl for doing that being supportive and reach out by the way I love hearing that story Maybe we can put you on hold and take our contact down because I think if we could do that because I would love To be able to to tell those stories especially the ones that are decades old now sometimes of how uh, the aclj has worked And uh, maybe there's something we can work with you in the future I want to say this too because Cheryl said, you know, we're from the midwest and we serve this country when you think back to when um Kristen welker went to to the midwest to wisconsin to talk to president trump Which is I had to travel all the way here. I came all the way to wisconsin I want you to contrast that with there's a phenomenon happening right now Where europeans are coming to america for the world cup And because of it's all over the country and all the training facilities and in the games that are being held in sec stadiums are Are happening in places that aren't new york la chicago miami It's happening in those places too, but europeans are taking road trips They're meeting the salt of the earth americans like charol like people in albern alabama Like people in chattanooga, tennessee, and they're saying america is great. Yeah, and this place is awesome Those first games kick off in like a matter of hours I think the next two hours that begins they want to take quickly mary in florida she's about to hold for a long time Sorry, sheila and ron. I'm not gonna be able to get to you today, but mary go ahead Hi, I'm really pleased to have this opportunity. I just wanted to say that I am a little history Uh, my husband my late husband Uh was involved in the iranian raid So I'm very much, um Um, you know On top of all of this. Yeah, I know the story and and and they must I'm just going to go ahead and say it. They must be eradicated. I'm talking about the regime I remember when the show of iran went down Uh, and uh, you know, I guess I'm in my 70s So let me tell you something we who have lived long enough who has the honor to still be here and to be americans Uh, who appreciate the fact that your show allows us to have a voice and not only that We we have the opportunity to share with with with uh, with other decades of people that may not know all of the Strikes that these people have caused and especially israel. My goodness. How much more can israel take Look, mary, this is insane. I I so appreciate your comment And I wish I'd be able to take you earlier because I think that you speak for a lot of people That's what we tried to do here. It's why I said sometimes we got to give a history lesson and look We weren't necessarily there when that happened will and I we're we're out of that generation But we are very well informed Of what history tells us and that we don't repeat ourselves and sometimes America seems to do that But here we are I want to one I want to say thank you to you and your family and your husband Uh for his service and everything that you have been a part of for this many decades as well So thank you and I appreciate it with that. It's going to do it for today's show Thank you to mary. Sorry to a few people. 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