Michael Che

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I did buy a pool table instead of the dining room table. Great, better use, right? And how many times have you used the pool table? More than a dining room table. They meant. I still open packages on it sometimes, but with more than a dining room. You got to cover the felt, though. Cover the felt. Yeah, yeah, I keep the little cover over it. OK, yeah. The table's a table. I always go in with hoping I'm going to have the table clean and inevitably it just collects all kinds of stuff. But the kids makes it. It's tough. It's out of your control. No, it is out of my control. This is in my control. True, but it still becomes the collection spot. Yes, 100%. Especially because it's not the focal point, right? Right, it's in the cut. It's always in the cut. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's whatever. It's nice. I think a messy house is a sign of happiness. Lived in. Yeah, yeah. I like that. It's like you're supposed to come. I agree. I got to like my bed made. I like it. Straightened. Straightened. OK. I like that thing. Just with the comforter. Yeah. So how often do you change? Yeah. And how good are you with the? I'm pretty good. Yeah, you've got it. I get one side and then I'll open up the first side. So just to make it look nice and neat. So but how many blankets and sheets are on the bed? I'm a fitted top sheet comforter. And that's it. Two pillows. How about in Europe when you go and there's like no sheets? There's fitted. But and then it's just the comforter. Have you ever experienced that? I've never experienced that. No, I have. Yeah. There's no no sheets. So in some places. The same comforter that everyone. You guys have right. Well, thank God. OK. I've never seen that. Yeah. Do they have rock? Push the two beds together. Yeah. Oh, like the honeymooners? Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Was that real? Did people in the 50s really live like that? Or was it just a TV thing? Nobody knows. Your grandparents did it. Really? Yeah. It was like twin beds. Huh. And what's the purpose? Or maybe they just didn't make bigger beds. Before marriage. After marriage. Yeah. Exactly. Then you can split them apart. I would if I would ever get married. I would love my own room. You know, some people actually do that. Now, that makes me feel like that's a bad idea then. Because of the way you said, you know, some people actually do that. And I thought, yeah, of course, people would actually do that. I mean, to each their own, right? But like. Oh, no. Some people, they love to do that. I like I love sleeping next to my husband. Yeah, but imagine that's cool, you know, but not like every day. I don't know about every day. Maybe, you know, like it's like on weekends or something. It would give you something to look forward to. Maybe. But here's the thing. Like, I guess maybe I'll because my husband travels a lot and I travel a lot. So some, you know, I'm not always in the same bed. It's not the honeymoon. It's not all the time. Yeah, you're also married to Triple H. So like you're allowed to say. Guys, where's my poster? He took my 2K poster down to your house. But let's take a moment to appreciate the set. Oh, yeah. New says this is a new set. Oh, is it really? Yeah. Nice. I like it. Yeah. AI, right, Joe? He literally did chat. GPT. I like it. I dig it. No, this is warm. Yeah, this feels like. Yeah, this is great debut. This is nicer than anything in my house. Very nice. I'm not ashamed to say it. Well done. Patrice, thank you. Thank you. We got right off that sleeping together thing. Yeah. Yeah, I'm like, I gotta work on my life. So one of your biggest influences, Patrice O'Neill, right? Is he is he one of? How do you know that? Yes, absolutely. That's that's what you know. He worked as a writer. I do know that. For a brief period of time. I've heard him. I've heard him say that. What has he said because? Well, no, I've heard him say on the on the on the radio show that he that he used to work at WWE. And I was like, I didn't really realize. You know what it is? Like, you don't even kind of consider that that's a job. Like, even when I started working at Saturday Night Live, I guess a writer first. I didn't even know that that was like a thing. Of course it's a thing, but you wouldn't even think like, oh, yeah, there's this is like a prepared thing. You know, this is something that's. Well, I guess if you're if we're doing our jobs right, you wouldn't think that I totally agree. It should feel like off the cuff. Feel natural. Yeah, 100%. But what was he like in those rooms? He must have been insane. It's funny because I hired. I think I hired him. Really? Yes. But I didn't know like I knew he was a comedian. And that's what I was trying to do is bring some humor into the show. And, you know, but I didn't realize how big of a comedian he was. Yeah. So, you know, when you come to WWE, you got to work like a lot. I bet. And it is really grueling. And you're traveling to all the shows. I don't think at that time we had the home team away team thing. I think everybody was one team. So you were just constantly grinding. And I don't think it was the lifestyle he wanted. Well, I can't imagine you could do both of those things, like stand up comedy and that is. Well, yeah. And it was to not to be a stand up comic, but to interject, you know, comedy into the scripts and things like that to help with humor. Well, I just mean the grind. Yeah, because he was. Yeah, I think he was trying to be a comic at that time. Because yeah, I don't think you can do both. Yeah, it's it's it's got to be nearly impossible. And even coming in with you guys, even for that short time, seeing the way it was produced, it reminded me a lot of SNL, but far more dangerous. But in the same kind of like rigorous, like every it's live, you get one shot at it. Yep. And it's all about timing and it's and it's physical. Like we're wimps, but like these are like physical specimens trying to time this perfectly so you don't hurt the other person. That's right. And also you might be hurt and you're trying to do something that is hard to do healthy. Yeah, it's I was extremely impressed by that. Yeah, it was like really, really cool. It was so cool that you guys did that. No, you kidding me? That was my most New York year ever. Like I'm born and raised in New York City. And that year I did WrestleMania and I did Eddie Murphy Saturday Night Live and I did Sesame Street. I was like, oh, I'm set. I don't have to do anything else in New York City. And you love being from New York, right? I love New York. Yeah. It's the only place you spent a lot of time in New York. You must have. I have. Yeah, I've spent a lot of time in New York, mainly at the Garden. Yeah. Yeah. I think my first wrestling show was the Garden had to be. And I remember it was King Harley Race at the time. Yeah. And I remember because like the mic would come down in those days. You guys should bring the mic down for the garden show. There was a character we had Ken Kennedy. Yeah, I remember that. We did it for a little while. I don't know what happened. I remember that. Yeah, that's crazy. But going back to Patrice for one second before I forget. So I had to to let Patrice go because he wasn't actually. No, but this is the funny part. And I've heard him tell the story of how funny it was because he like I let him go, but he didn't go anywhere. So he was he was still like around and he was on the plane and I was like, Patrice, what are you doing on the plane? Like you think I was kidding? It was this and I heard him tell that story down the road after. Yeah. I mean, he just didn't say anything. It was just like a funny moment. I don't know if he's going to get on the next stop. No, I mean, he's like, I'll go home once we get back. Like it was just the funniest, the damnedest thing really. I guess, you know, maybe if he stayed, he could have just stayed. But it wasn't the right thing for him either. But it was too funny. He's the best. He was the best. And you could see you could see his sort of fingerprints on so many comics now. Yeah, it's kind of crazy. What what what did you love most about him? Honesty, brutal, brutal honesty, no matter how it made him look. He was willing to fight through it. So like as a comedian, you know, I always feel like it's a negotiation between what I find funny and what the audience is willing to hear or accept as funny. And usually what I think is funny and and the audience, if they don't think it's funny, I'm like, OK, well, we won't do that. How about this one? How about this one? It's usually that sort of the approach in joke writing. He sort of just stuck with whatever he wanted to do. And tight ended and just made it. He kind of honed it. He kind of grinded them and submit into submission, you know, like literally. You would see audiences that started out hating them, ended up loving them by the end of the set, because, you know, you can call them anything, but you can't call them a liar. It was honest and not honest in that it was exactly right. But it was honest in that I know you truly feel that way. And I can see why you feel that way. And it's something that's disarming, you know. It's a weird trick to get a as you guys know, to make an audience react the same exact way, a room full of strangers react the same exact way. In time is strange and and very, very unlikely. You described it in a different interview as showing a baby a magic trick for the first time. Yeah, something like that. It is. And when you sometimes it's like giving them a lemon for the first time. But it is that it's literally like, you know, seeing something that you didn't even know was possible. You can't even fathom how it could be possible. And with words, it's it's really tough. Yeah, sometimes it's really tough. The most vulnerable thing you can do is well, and because it's funny. Yeah, exactly. You're not playing a character. You're not playing a character. This is this is sort of what you think and what you believe and you're putting yourself out there. And also people kind of need permission to laugh at certain things. Yeah, like especially now, especially now. People don't want to be caught laughing at the thing that nobody else finds funny. Yeah. So to make them laugh, to make them kind of peel that guard back and be able to accept it is sort of a it's a wild trick. What is he was a master at it? What is it? How do you do it? Um, you got to trust it. They got to trust you. I don't know how. I don't know how much we could say on this. You say whatever you want to me. It's like it's it's a lot like sex in the sense that you. This is going to be good. You have to be able to listen as well as speak. So I think a lot of comedy is using sort of your ears and making sure your partner is OK. That's as clean as I can make it. Wow. I mean, that was pretty good. Actually, it was. I'm impressed. Well, my mother's going to hear this interview and she's going to be like, wow, thank you for not embarrassing the family. Which is a big family, which is a big family. I'm the youngest of seven. Yes. Yeah. We didn't have cable. But so how so. OK, we'll come back to the sex conversation. But how how did you which, by the way, if you're paying attention, obviously you, you know, that's a great thing because not everybody does. Right. Yeah, some people, it's all one way. That's right. It's true. Yeah. Yeah. But you care. Then you listen and you're a listener. A good listener. You're a good listener. You know when things are working or when they aren't. Not all men are good listeners. That's right. It's hot in here. It is hot in here. Just started out about patrice. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and honesty. So honesty. Yeah, there was that. And connection, right, which I think is kind of what you're getting at. 100 percent. I think that's what that's sort of what makes it tricky. I wonder like how I'm always curious, because I never really like talk to performers about this. Just that aspect of it. Like for me, as a stand up, you know, there's there's times where I can pivot or there's times where I could sort of, you know, go to the crowd and like kind of make them comfortable. If they're comfortable, they'll be able to accept more things. That's sort of the point of it. And I wonder like when you're out there, if a match is going, because it's such a rigid time frame, you know, like on SNL, we've got four minutes in a sketch. We got four minutes on a sketch. It's like two times. Yeah, it's everything is. And in a match, if something's not going right, when do you know that you can stretch? When do you know that you could kind of pivot? When do you know that? Okay, the audience is dying. We got to kind of raise the volume. It's part of the art. Yeah, it's part of it, right? Like I imagine that that sort of. But you have to be listening. You really do. And it's a feel. You know, I think that that's, you know, sexual in your window side. It's all about the feel. Yeah. It's a vibe. It's an energy. It's a connection. It really is when you're out there. And, you know, from a wrestling standpoint, I can't speak to it as well because my matches were always very planned, although there were times when things didn't go quite right. But that's neither here nor there. But on the mic, when I was talking, you know, the crowd, you can notice when they're not with it and when they are. 100%. And also you guys, like, okay, so for us, it's listening and laughing are the two things you want always. Yes. You guys have to prepare for booing, I wanted to throw like, yeah. And you want that kind of stuff. And you got to react. And you got to react to it. That's part of the fun though. It's got to be the best feeling in the world. It's got to be the best feeling in the world. It's like the crowd interaction. When they start chanting. Yeah. And it's not a chant. You explain it. And it's not a chant you expect. Like I remember I was doing some skit with Jericho and. He was brutal. Oh, to me. But this is on the other side of that. Now I was in control in this particular segment and I was making him do something and the crowd started chanting, on your knees, on your knees. And I was not me for him. And I was not. I was about to say that's the worst thing I've ever heard. No, but I was able to bring it anyway. Now it's something else. No. No, so when I read and then I got. On your knees. On your knees is crazy. There have been some crazy chants. No, yeah. Yeah, what do you do like from a production standpoint when the crowd is yelling stuff that's almost too crazy for even? Cause it is like. Yeah, sometimes the network should bleep it. Or it goes quiet, which sometimes ruins it. Because then there's no noise. Yeah. You know, and it's like the noise is important. You know. It's cool. Cause that's the energy is how everybody's reacting. Like SNL, I always say, WWE SNL, you have to see it live to really understand what it is. Because it's like, you can't believe it's happening the way it's happening. It looks so much crazier live. And you guys do a full rehearsal, right? Right before you go live. We do a rehearsal, then a dress rehearsal. And then, yeah. But the audience watches the dress rehearsal. One of them, right? We do an audience rehearsal too. Yeah, dress rehearsal. And how often do things change? Always because the dress rehearsal, if the show is actually 90 minutes, the dress rehearsal is probably like two hours and 10 minutes, two hours or so, depending. So half an hour is getting cut no matter what. Regardless. So if you go to dress rehearsal, you're gonna see a half hour that's not gonna be on TV. And everything kind of gets changed. But what's tricky about it is it's two different audiences, obviously. Which means you're editing the show based on the last audience's taste, but you might get a completely different kind of an audience. And now you've ruined the sketch for people that's not gonna be there. It's a very strange thing. It almost... That's interesting. Yeah, because it's... I always thought it was the same audience. No, no, no, no. Sometimes the dress audiences on fire, they're hot. And you think you've just written the best thing. And then that air audience is not on fire. And it's pointing to silence. And you're like, what happened? That's the worst. Yeah, but you know, I mean, it's just like touring. You know, you get to one city, you might, it's like crazy in Chicago. Every crowd's different. In Indiana or wherever it is. So you never really know. And we get twice in a night. So it gets a little, it gets really tricky. You don't get heckled. We don't get heckled. I mean, maybe not at SNL, but you were just saying about stand up and the difference between the two of you. Stand up for sure. How do you think you get heckled? You get heckled. But it's like, there's like, there's heckles that are, we don't like this. And then there's heckles that, I just want to be a part of this. And so you can't, I don't like to discourage hecklers. I try to like, I have a little spiel. Have fun with them. Yeah, I have fun with them. I play with them. Cause that's what it's all about is just having fun. Right? Yeah, and fun is contagious too. Like if they know that I'm having fun and that everybody's having fun, they kind of want to be on board with it too. No different. Yeah. It's the same with us. If we're having fun, the audience is having fun. And again, it's not anything you can articulate. Right? Right. It's just a feel. But it's got to be so much more, like for me, I can do whatever I want. But when you're in, you're a character or you're, you're getting to an agenda for another performer to be able to score, it's got to be a lot tougher because you're like, there's only, but so much Stephanie McMahon would say in this situation, even if you think of something that's great, you're like, but that's not, I'm supposed to be mad right now or I'm supposed to be, you know what I mean? It's got to be a little bit tougher. Yeah, you don't want to break character. You don't want to break. You don't want to, because it hurts to everybody else who has to do the thing to get the win. I'm just, I'm fascinated by this. I'm sorry about my nerd questions. No, I love it. I love it. It's so cool. I mean, of course I'm biased, right? But I think it's the greatest form of entertainment in the world. And sometimes you don't even remember like how cool it is if you do it enough until you see someone experience it. And you're like, oh yeah, I guess this is a dope thing. I have guests for SNL who give them the tour and they're like, wow, these are the cue cards? Like you've never seen a cue card before? They're like, to them, it's like, wow, this is crazy. It's like, really? Someone's job is to write this card. Yeah, literally. Yeah. It's trippy. It is. But I've got to go to SNL, I think twice. And so I got to see the process. I actually sat in the room with Lorne and my dad, who was trying to tell Lorne how to write for our characters and listening to this dance of a conversation. Oh, I would give anything. I would give anything to be in that room. I've been in some rooms. That is nuts. Oh man, I would love to hear that. It was so cool. I would love to hear that. I have to tell you, it was really... Was that when Rock hosted the first time? Yeah, there was Rock and Big Show and Triple H. You came up with the monologue, right? Yeah. And my dad did the monologue. Really? Yeah. I did not know this. Yeah, it was that part I thought was the coolest for me at that time. That's extremely cool. Yeah. Welcome to New York. Yeah, exactly. That feels like a New York thing. Like, Saturday Night Main Event would come one... That's right. So when Saturday Night Live wasn't on, Saturday Night's Main Event would take its place. That was my... See, we're like... Yeah, no, I think it's a very East Coast thing. I think it's like Northeast thing where like, that's how we grew up, Saturday Night Live, WW, and... The Apollo. It's showtime. Showtime at The Apollo, yeah, Sam and Sims. Happy Apollo. I, no, it's very, very New York. I would have killed to see that. Yeah. The number one sports fan festival, Fanatics Fest, returns to the Javits Center in New York City from July 16th to the 19th, 2026. Fanatics has just announced the return of Fanatics Games, bringing back its high stakes cross-sport competition where everyday fans go head to head with some of the biggest names in sports. 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Like even if it's a little bit more expensive than you'd like it to be, or a little bit, just make sure it's convenient, it's comfortable, you like it because when you're home, you wanna be happy and you wanna be able to rest, and you wanna be able to get back to work. You don't wanna be stressed out at home and then stressed out at work. And that's helped me a lot in my career because I would be on the road, or I would be in these hotels, or I would be working all the way through the morning and coming home and I don't even got two or three hours, but I would come home two or three hours in a nice apartment that maybe even I couldn't afford, but it was just, I just was comfortable, and I was happy to do it, and I was happy to be home. And it's terrible financial advice, but it's amazing. It's amazing emotional advice. I always loved that, and I remember he told me one time, he was like, I've never heard that before. I've never heard it either, he's the only one that says it. He also told me don't trust a nighttime yes. That was my favorite thing, I always say nighttime yes. So what do you mean? Like if you're pitching something and somebody says yes, and it's at night, that doesn't mean it's gonna happen. Doesn't mean it's gonna happen. Was this Justin Comanee? I think it's everywhere. Yeah, no, because like when I pitched you to be on the show and you said yes, somebody did do it. But I really wanted to do it. I really wanted to do it, absolutely. I really wanted to do it. I'm so grateful you're here, I really am. No, this is honestly, yeah, no. This was not a nighttime yes. This was more of a when can I do it? You know what I mean? Like literally, like when could I do it? Because we just got back from Indiana last night, this is our week's off. So like we were just trying to find a time when I could definitely do it because I'm like working on a special. So every time I'm not at SNL, I'm on the road or I'm doing shows. So it was just tricky of, I don't know when we could do it. And when you say you're on the road, are you like practicing, you're doing stand-up, are you practicing bits that you then wanna put into your special? Yeah. Yeah, because that's important, right? That's yeah, repetition is sort of, repetition's the key. You know, you kind of gotta say it like you're thinking of it in a way. You gotta know the off-ramps and the, it's so, so boring. But how do you keep it a secret? Right, like your bits? Because I imagine people are with their cell phones or whatever. That's actually slowed down a lot. Knock on wood. If you're watching this and you're a fan, please don't take this as a personal challenge. But I used to lock up phones, like up until about this year. And I kinda stopped because I feel like the gotcha moment has sort of ended. I think fans are kind of better at it, but it used to be, they would tape your whole set and put it on. Right, and then put it out. Yeah, it doesn't happen as much anymore, thankfully. But there was a time when I was like, I'm not performing unless the phones were locked up. Wow. They'll just, they'll put it where it was. And there's still somebody. Somebody will still do it. Who sneaks the phone. And a lot of times it's not, they don't wanna get the gotcha moment. They sort of wanna just take a picture. Well, yeah, but I think sometimes too, they wanna, well, I don't wanna speak for anybody, but it makes them important that they have your, you know, part of what you're gonna be doing. So they put it out, not to try to hurt you, but to try to help them, sort of. And they don't realize the effect it has. Absolutely. I think it's, you know, everybody kind of, you know, that last episode of Seinfeld, the sort of prophetic, you know, where they kind of go to jail for taking a video of a guy getting assaulted. And it's literally all the culture is. And it was like a, it was a camcorder, which is crazy. But now that's kind of sort of people's first instinct is when you see something, you take a picture, you record it, you take a picture of your food, if it looks nice, take a picture of everything. So it's just a natural reaction to be like, I'm somewhere fun or cool, here's what it looks like. And it's just, I don't know. It's weird, it's a weird way to live, but I get it. Yeah, yeah. Get it. I mean, and you don't have to get it, right? You must not be gonna go anywhere though. No, no, I'm fine. Really? Yeah, I. I find that so hard to believe. No, I'm really, my husband can't go anywhere. Okay. But I'm, skate. No kidding, it shocks me. I remember I was talking to. I mean, every now and then. I was talking to Tina Fey one time and I was asking her, like, how does she get around in the city where we were just, we were doing something. I was like, how are you getting around? She was like, I get on a train. I'm like, how are you on a train? Like you must be. Right, mobbed. In New York City, you see Tina Fey, that's gotta be insanity. She was like, no, yeah, I'm fine, people leave me alone. And I was like, that's, it trips me out. That there's people that could kind of walk around. Yeah. That famous. I think, well, and I'm not Tina Fey famous, but I think. I don't know that that's true. No, I'm definitely not. But I, what I get a lot. Two very different types of people. But what I get a lot is like, you look familiar. You know, it's like, where do I know you from? What? Well, we, we usually catch like, you're walking and someone's like, oh, that's Stephanie McMahon. Yeah, it is. And we're like, just keep moving. Like, you know. There's always someone that notices you. Not always. Maybe, but because you're with me when we're doing business stuff. So, but like at the mall or whatever. I think you just don't know what it looks like when people notice you because you've been noticed for the last 30 years. I'm sorry to put it. I can just skate though. 30 years. Yeah, I know we were talking before. I used to watch you when I was a kid. I'm 70 years old. I'm like, that's not possible. No, but I'm just, I'm just, I'm just saying like, you probably don't even track it when people are literally just gawking at you because they're like, oh my. But I swear, I am out and about all the time. And you know, baseball, but I'm not even trying to not look like anything. But like, you know, also I think my character is always very done makeup, hair, you know, the whole thing. So when I'm just being me in my sweats and stuff. You really believe that. I do. I do. I do. I'm looking at you, I'm like, you really believe this. But I'm looking at the team because we were just in dinner when we were shooting in Orlando. Okay, but that was Orlando. As soon as we're leaving the restaurant, it's fine. People know you, it's okay. I think this pod has got some, it's some new fans from the pod. But you started off as an artist and you went to fame. That's, yeah. Right? But so you... That's true. Were you like, what type of artist were you? I, okay, I went to LaGuardia High School, fame. Which is the coolest, cause I watched fame all the time. I loved fame, sing it. I wanted to go to fame. No, no, the show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. With Debbie Allen. Debbie Allen. Oh my God. Love her. And then I saw her in Grey's Anatomy and I'm like, Debbie Allen. Debbie Allen. Yeah. I seen her at a hotel one time. We were doing something in DC. Oh, I think Lauren was getting the Medal of Freedom. Something crazy like that. Wow. Yeah. It's not the Medal of Freedom. Is it the Medal of Freedom? Yeah. Is it? I was one of them things. Really? Yeah, it was at the Kennedy Center or something. And I seen, she was getting one too. And I seen her in a lobby and I was like, you're Debbie Allen. And she was just like, yeah, hi, how are you? Amazing. Same thing that you're trying to do. With that stick. Same whole, I'm not really Debbie Allen kind of thing. No, it was really cool though. And she, that school is famous for a ton of people that went there, Shalamades, who's probably as famous as I am. And... Not quite. Well, a lot of cool people. A lot of way cooler people than me have been there though, but it was so cool. But I went for painting. I used to like to paint. And I wasn't very good at it. I'm not... But you had to audition to get into the school. Yeah, but it's easier to get in for art than it is for like, piano. Because why? Well, because how many pianos are you gonna put in at school? I really have three. Everybody could get a drum pad. But everybody could get a drum pad. Art is more subjective? Art is probably more subjective, but I just think like for an art program, there's a lot more space. Paint and pianos. Yeah, like there's... Paint brushes are cheap. Pianos, such a specific thing, they might be able to pass like 20 kids that can play piano. But you said you had to have been pretty good. No, I think I don't know. Do you have any of your art anywhere? No. But this was like... That's a sign that it's not that good. But up until you were like 25 and Tommy Hill figure hired you. That's true, but... So you had to have been somewhat talented. I mean, I think I was... I'm embarrassed by it, because I don't think I was very good. I think I... Once I learned how to do comedy, I realized, okay, this is what I was supposed to be doing. I think that there's certain things like... There's like a lot of... You could be excellent at one thing, but if you don't get to that one thing, you could be sort of good at other things. Like if you were a great baseball player, you might be an amazing football player, but you play baseball, so you can kind of do it because of the skills that you have. You're just pure athleticism. Like I'm sure you guys give people that are wrestlers that are probably was better at another sport, but since they could do that well, they transitioned pretty well in doing this, or vice versa. So what are the synergies then? I think there was like a level of expression and composition that I sort of had naturally that taught me how to... I know how to write jokes in that way, but to paint was a little trickier for me, but it made me good enough that I was passable. So composition in terms of the structure of a joke? Composition, the balance of a joke, where it should be. I could sort of see jokes in art kind of way. Like I could see... So that's fascinating. It's fast, it's hard to say. Like I heard like Kanye one time, he was saying how he can hear colors in a way, and it doesn't sound like it makes sense, but I was like, I know exactly what he made. No, no, there's someone... God, I can picture his face. He was just on Joe Rogan talking about frequency of colors. I'm not gonna think of his name, but you guys could find it. But there's people that I've heard say things like that. So maybe it's not just a few, but I think there was things that I could do in learning about art and composition and balance and lighting and texture that I use for comedy and it's like fluent. It feels like that's like my second link. Painting feels like a second language sort of. I can understand it a little bit better than I can speak it. I kind of know what it is, I can sort of do it, but I think in comedy in a way that when I tried it for the first time, I was terrible at it, but I was like, oh, this is what I should be doing. Like it just felt natural. It felt like this is like how I dream. This is how I think. This is a weird thing. It's pretty cool. It's fascinating. And who? Yes, unlikely. Yeah. This isn't a great list, but. No one, you should hear him. I guess I'm like how do you get an entire tower? You know, sorry short list. So who are some of your influences? Oh no, what is wrong with me? Can you look up a Terrence Howard sleeps in twin beds? Does he do the thing? Yeah, does he not like made up beds or anything? Does that have a name? Reindeer. Yeah, I don't know what it is. Did you say reindeer? Yeah. Oh yeah, reindeer, reindeer. Yeah, the rain Santa. Reindeer. Reindeer. Reindeer the bed. But so were there any like, so you grew up and it wasn't easy? No. Growing up the way you did. Well, no, it wasn't easy. But I mean, as a kid, you don't know it's not easy. Right? You know, it's like your life wasn't easy until you start. Thinking back. Comparing notes with people that didn't grow up like you and you're like, oh, wait a minute. Wait, what? Yeah, what? So you've never had water and cereal? No, no. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, we was broke. But did you find an outlet in art? No. Or a teacher? Yeah, yeah, I found an outlet in art as I started learning more about it and getting better at it. It was a great way to, I didn't know it at the time, but it taught me how to think. So like, it kept me busy. Because I would paint the way I write, which is I would just hold up in a room for like a day or two and just paint and play music and paint and I would be thinking and I didn't realize it, but I was actually thinking and writing. And so my arm would be going and I'm thinking and I'm trying to execute this picture or whatever and getting it right, but I was really just alone thinking my thoughts through and repeating them. So when I got to comedy, I sort of knew how to focus on bits. I kind of knew how to write. I knew how to lock in because I had already been doing it. It was strange. It was like I was working a muscle. I had already had the muscles developed by the time I learned how to do the thing. I did it backwards in a way. My new legacy title is an original, fully custom designed from the ground up to commemorate my career inside and out of the WWE ring. The belt features 907 crystals, golden metallic prints, a black velvet strap and the center and side plates contain artwork and reference to the McMahon family crest. You can get my legacy belt now at WWE shop and fanatics. So have you been watching WWE recently? Definitely. You know who Oba Femi is. I should have did the walk when I came in. Missed opportunity to do the walk. Yeah, I know. But he, as an artist. No kidding. I know I was thinking of that as he was describing. As was Triple H. No kidding. So a couple of other references and it's actually one of the things I was talking to Paul about this morning because of course he says hi by the way. Hello. And I was saying, I wonder what that is. Like what's that connection with art and performance art? And you're illustrating it a little bit right now. I think, I mean, that's what it is for me. You know, I don't know. They may have a different answer, but I think that that's, you know, it teaches you sort of how to think. It teaches you precision. Visualization. Visualization, easy enough for me to say. Teach you how to enunciate. It teaches you. No, it just, it teaches you sort of how to see things through. Like in art, you kind of know where you're going. You see the destination on a blank canvas. You see what you're trying to get to on a white board or a piece of paper. So you already have a step ahead of people that are kind of just blindly going into a situation. They don't really know where they wanna land. You know exactly where you're going. You know what you need to get there. You know which colors you're gonna need. You know, the time it's going to take. You know where you wanna start. You know what's gonna be the difficult part. You know what you wanna. Yeah, you know the different brushes. You know, all of that. The tools you have to play with. All of that. So I think having those, knowing those materials, you have the shopping list. You sort of, I had in the game a little bit, I suppose it's somebody that's just sort of like, tell me what to do. You know, like it's a little bit easier. And it's in your control. I think we turn out to be sort of little controlling because we create the environment in a way that other people aren't responsible for. Yeah. Cause I feel like that with actors, a lot of times they're not, like I never liked acting. I hate acting. But I just don't like doing it. But I do feel like the business of acting, you have to wait for someone to hire you or you have to wait to get casted or you have to wait to whatever for something. With stand up, I could work every day. I could go to an open mic. I could, it might be three people in the audience. I could go to the club. I could go every day and sort of, I feel like the master of my own destiny. Yeah. Yeah. I love that. Yeah. It sort of spoils you though. Well, because you- Cause that's not real life. You're not always in control. You're not always in control. And when it's time to surrender, it makes it a little tougher cause you're not, you don't have those tools. Yeah. You're looking at it. So how did you learn how to surrender? I'm still learning. I don't know how to, I really don't. I'm still learning. Do you believe in surrender? Yeah. I mean, definitely believe in it. It's more, believe in it in what way. I think it exists. I'm not sure. So like when I think of surrender, I think of like, you know, sort of faith. And like ultimately, but I know that's not necessarily what you were talking about. No, but it could be. But it could be. It certainly could be. I think it's tough for me because of the way I grew up and the way I've made a living that it's hard for me to trust surrendering. It's times where I don't have a choice. Right. Right. If you're working for someone or whatever that is. Exactly. Yeah. And you have to learn to work within the system. Or even in relationships, even in friendships. Even in, you know, just living in the world. There's certain things you just cannot control. And it makes, it's tough. Yeah. But I don't know who it's easy for. That's true too. Yeah. You think it gives you a leg up a little bit that you're not accustomed to surrendering and it makes you maybe fight harder or not take, not take shit, but like a certain amount of it. Like does it give you more confidence in negotiation or in whatever? Maybe. I never thought of it that way, but I can see how it could. I think it's, yeah. I think there's a certain level of delusion that you need to be successful in. Like people saying you can't do stand up at 26. Yeah. Right. I'm sure they said that. Oh my God. I wouldn't even tell people I was doing stand up because I knew they would say it. And I kept it a secret for a few years, but I also, like where I grew up, well, like my family structure or my friends, like my community, the way I grew up, I know that a lot of times people are just scared for you. It's not that they don't believe in you. They're just scared that if I've never seen it work before, I'm worried that you're taking this chance on a thing that I've never seen work. I can understand why they would be skeptical. Sure, yeah. Yeah, so like I wouldn't even put that on their plate to worry with me, you know? Cause I was sure that I knew how to do this, even when I didn't know how to do it. Who did you trust? I trusted my desire to wanna do it. And I trusted that I see the pace in which this is coming to me. And so I just trusted that. And I also, even more than trusted, I thoroughly enjoyed doing it, which is really kind of the 1% of the 1%. If you, like bombing was fun. You know, like bombing was, it wasn't fun in the moment, but you got to rush afterwards. It was like, I wanna go again. You know, like I just enjoyed the whole process. I enjoyed like every part of it. And so it was like in my free time, that's what I wanted to do. So people used to think I was lazy. They used to always say I was a lazy guy cause I didn't wanna work. And then I would do that. And they was like, you work too much. And I was like, I don't know what's, I don't know which one's true. I just know that. This is what I love. I tend to work harder when I like working. When I like the work, you know? I think a lot of people would. Yeah. So it was that. But again, it makes you selfish cause now you've buried yourself in work. Well, I'm not calling you selfish. So what is that process when you bomb? Like how do you get the rush afterwards? Are you analyzing what worked or didn't work? Did you know what didn't work? Did you? You could feel it. Yeah. You could feel it and... Yeah, I've experienced that by the way. How could you, it's like... It's worst. And people would be like, why would you think? Even me, like I could feel it leaving my mouth. And I'm like, why do I think this is funny? What are you saying? Like what made me even try this? You know, like, oh, it's like you fool. Yeah, crickets is the worst. Crickets, it's yours. No. I remember one time I was doing a show in Baltimore and it was a rough, it was like a three, I did three shows that night. And it was the third show, which started at about midnight. And it's just the drunkest people, you know. Everyone's drunk, everyone's kind of ready. They're ready to go when they got there. It was midnight. You only got about three more hours to drink. You're with your friends. And I remember I told the joke that went over. It was good. But as they were laughing, they started talking to each other. And as they started talking to each other, they forgot I was on stage. And I'm sitting there struggling, trying to get them back on. And this guy, his back was sort of turned to me because it was like a club, sort of the seating was sort of like sideways. And full, not full, like 10 people. It was full, it was pretty full. It was like three quarters full. And this guy turns and like notices that I'm on stage because I'm interrupting his conversation. And he sees me and he goes, boo. And I was like, boo. And everyone goes, yeah, boo, boo, boo, boo. And then everyone just starts booing. And I'm like, what? No, no boo, no boo. I had to get off that stage in record time. They were all just like, yeah, start, get this guy out of here. And it was fine, I was doing okay up until they decided that they wanted to have a conversation and that one guy booed over. But it's just like you feel it at your bones. Even when it was going good, I knew this is gonna go bad at any moment. You can just feel it. You're just not there for it. And then in hindsight, sometimes you're testing material, right? So do you just know immediately, like you said, sometimes as it's coming out of your mouth or like you just cut that joke and now you're... Well, it depends. It depends. Like sometimes... Because you've said it's how you tell the joke to sometimes. Exactly. I look at comedy like, I think it's not only stupid comedy analogies, but it feels like trying to get directions in a country you've never been to. It's like, you know what you're trying to ask them, but they might not know. So like, if you can tell if they're offended, like, no, no, no, I'm trying to say it. You know, or if they just clearly don't know, then you're like, all right, maybe they just don't know, I'll move on. So it's sort of like that. I know why I think it's funny and I'm trying to get you to understand it in the way that I understand it. And if it's something that's just not, you just don't know, then I'll let the joke go. But if it's something that you're not clear on, maybe I'll try it another way. So it's literally just communicating. It's literally like, if I know it's funny, if I believe it's funny, I know I'm not the only person that believes it's funny. I just, I'm just stubborn that way. Like, I just don't think that I am the only one that's experienced this and found this funny. I just gotta find 200 people to agree. Well, you have. Yeah, that's how that works. You have, absolutely. How do you guys know this is going to, like segment wise or angle wise? Gosh. Cause it's not like you could go to a club. Right, no, well, live events, we used to be able to work a lot of things out. And that's why I was asking you about things getting stolen or whatever. Cause certain, you're working on a match structure, you're seeing what works, what doesn't work, you know, all that kind of stuff. Chemistry is important. It's the number one. Number one. You can be two of the greatest wrestlers in the world, superstars in the world. And if you don't have chemistry, it's just not going to work. Cool, you tell it. Yeah, exactly what you mean. It just doesn't work. When we were doing update, we had such a rough start and people used to always say, well, there's no chemistry between me and Joest. And I would get frustrated because we were friends and we did have chemistry, but we're never telling jokes in a two shot. We're on singles. So how do you have chemistry with somebody you're never on camera with? It was impossible. I was like, he starts his joke and did I go over then he goes and I was like, where we spit chemistry? And they would tell us not to write bits for each other because Lauren would always be like, don't write the chemistry, just feel it. And I'm like, that doesn't make sense. Like, how do we do that? But then I realized just small things. Like once he tells a joke, instead of me starting my joke, I'll roll my eyes. Now they know I didn't like the joke. And then when it's his turn, after he tells a joke the second time, he might look toward me like, did you like that one? And then we would find our chemistry in these little moments and it changed the dynamic. And then they started watching two friends telling jokes to each other as opposed to just two guys struggling to read cards. So like that was like, but it's dad. It's like chemistry, like you said, it's everything because then the joke doesn't even need to be as hard. The context is these two guys don't like each other or like each other. Right, now you're watching your interaction. Exactly. Right? And how you play off one another. Cause that's what's the most relatable. 100%. Right, and I think that's part of the magic, right? And making those connections is being relatable. 100%. You were saying if something you think is funny, but nobody relates to it, then it's not gonna hit cause they can't. They don't know what they're talking about. They don't know what they're talking about. Yeah, can't get up there. That's what I think when you're writing segments or you know, I think ultimately the struggle of the underdog is like just a human emotion, right? Like you root for that underdog and you root for it. And you can easily write to that. And I think as long as you are telling stories that people can relate to in some form or fashion or getting bullied or whatever it is, then it's hopefully gonna work. Backstabbed or like double cross. Exactly, steal someone's person, you know? Like all of that. Right. There's only so many different forms of stories, right? There's, it's sort of finite, right? And it's how you tell them and the characters that make it different and all that stuff, but there's only so many stories you can tell. And the time and the temperature, you know? Sometimes it's time for sort of that underdog and sometimes it's time for that. Get some heat. That's superhero. It's time for that guy that's, you know, just unbeatable. And then sometimes that scrappy, the small guy, people were rooting for that guy with the character that it's just like a, it's a weird thing, but you have to be able to listen and be like, okay, I see where this tide is going. And you can sort of still keep your integrity if you're aware. I think the sign of professionalism for the audience is, they want to, they just want, they've spent money. They want to make sure that whoever they spent money to see is in control of the night. So like one of the things that I learned at SNL was like, even if something goes wrong during a show, we can't pan it. We can't look like, oh no, we wasn't expecting that to bomb. If we bomb, we got a bomb on our own terms. Cause whatever, okay, you didn't like it. You just didn't like it, but we worked on this and I still think it's good and somebody's gonna like it. And we believe in it. Getting back to your Patrice. Yeah, it's literally that. And I think that's sort of what brings people on board. Cause once they know that they control the show, then they will become the show. Oh, absolutely. They'll hijack it. They'll take it right from you. Like boo. Boo. Boo. I'm funny, I'm this guy, boo. And that's it. And that's it. So how important, I mean, I think with comedy, it's everything, not only reading the room, but also like you say, where we are in society and what's happening and how hard is it to speak your truth without getting blocked? You know, what has canceled? I think it's, I don't. As a comedian, like it seemed like for a little while, it wasn't happening as much. Yeah. I think, you know what's so funny? I think like, I don't think that's our job as comics and as performers. I don't think it's really up to us. I think I would like to see more corporations and more companies back their artists that they're paying. I think a lot of times it's not the artists that's being canceled. It's the companies that are like, oh, this is gonna hurt our business, get rid of this guy, nobody wants to touch him, don't platform them. And it's like, I think there was, what used to be a time when it was a separation, it was just like, you don't like that guy, well, you don't like that guy. Right, then you don't watch that person. Yeah, you don't watch that person. But now I feel like there's this kind of weird sort of responsibility where everyone is sort of panicking on where to put their money. Egg shells. Yeah, and it's made artists scared, cause they're like, well, I don't want nobody to ever work with me as opposed, they may still, they may be willing to fight, but they don't want to fight alone. And I feel like for me, I try to always come from, this is how I feel, and this is why I feel this way. So even if you disagree, even if you vehemently disagree, I'm telling you, this is how I feel, and this is why I feel that way. Right, it's your truth. That's it. Yeah. Like literally, so it's not, I'm not telling you to feel this way, I'm not saying you're wrong for feeling your way, I'm just telling you this is how I feel. And I think people can kind of sort of respect that if they believe it. Yeah. If they buy it, if they understand, if they're willing to listen, they'll give you some sort of slack on that. But I think once you start telling people how they should feel, that's when it becomes a little bit more divisive. That's an important piece. Does that make sense? It does. It's you speaking your truth versus telling everyone else, they should believe what you believe. Because we could be very different and get along, or at least respect each other's space. And I don't think that that's practiced as much. I think it's sort of like my side versus your side. And we're on teams and we're all in the gang. We're all in the gang and my set, Don't Mess with Chess Set. And it's like, it gets a little obnoxious because I like to watch old school interviews like Dick Cavill and Donahue, those old kind of shows where they would just put the craziest people together. And you would watch them have these conversations and you could kind of, it was combative in that they were arguing. Yeah, they had different opinions. But people wasn't like, how dare Donahue is. It wasn't like you deserve to die. No, yeah, it was like we're talking to each other. We have to listen to each other to know why we don't like each other and find some kind of middle ground. And also you could sort of see who the weenies are that way. Right. You know what I mean? In a silo, this guy is strong and confident, but then you put him next to somebody who's equally as educated and can argue the same point. I mean, the opposite point and they fold because they've never been confronted before. Right. And they've never been challenged before. So you can sort of see, well, who do you want to follow now? Right. So it's like, I think those conversations, in order for those conversations to be had, people have to be willing to listen to each other and talk to each other and... And actually want to potentially find common ground. Actually want to potentially find common ground. Like, actually, do you actually want that? Or are you just having fun yelling? Cause that could also be it too. Sure. You could just be having fun knowing that half the population is worse than you and you can be smug about it. Right? And say, yeah, no, they're the bad people, which means I must be the good one. Okay. Yeah, look at me. Like, you know, but yeah, it's nonsense. It's one of the things I love the most about WWE is how different our fan base is. Yeah. Like, I mean, it really is as diverse as it can be from all over the world, different political beliefs, different, you know. The whole world agrees on it. It's crazy. But what do they come together and love? It's crazy. It's crazy. WWE and soccer. It's crazy. But let me ask you a question. Why do you think that is? I don't know. You know what's so funny? I was at, this is, I don't even know if this answers the question, but it's something that I always think about, especially like this year with Cena retiring. I was at Barclays for, I think it was SummerSlam. I got tickets and I was, I think I got tickets through the Daily Show. And it was in the Barclays. And I remember John Stuart was there. It was like, he like ran it. This was a while ago. It was like 10 years ago, maybe more. And I remember, you know how the Barclays, you know how Brooklyn is. So I was with John Stuart. Were you? Talking to him right before he went out. So I know exactly what you're talking about. So I'm sitting in the crowd in Brooklyn and they're booing John Cena like crazy. Like this, cause it's all like, you know, like all 35 year old dudes just like we hate Cena. We hate Cena. Because he's like super Cena. The women and kids love Cena. The men did not. There was this kid, he was dressed in all Cena. He had probably like 11 years old and he was with his dad. He's all seen it out. And these men are booing John Cena. Like he's the worst guy ever. John Stuart runs in, hits John Cena with the chair. Seth Rollins, I believe, beats him. The crowd goes nuts. And this kid crumbles. Oh no. And I'm like, oh, that's what it's about. This, that's why John Cena wins. Because this kid wants to see him win. It's not just about our selfish, nerdy kind of. Oh, get these. Like no, it's about everybody. So can I ask you a question? It made me appreciate John Cena in a way that I never thought I would appreciate anybody. Like I was like, damn, that's what it's about. So is it ultimately about hope? I think, I don't know that it's hope, but I can't think of a better word for it. Like I can't think of a better, it's gotta be. Cause I, you know, in my previous career, and I guess still to this day, I always think about how to position WWE, especially to people who don't get it, right? And, you know, I talk about all different things, but hope is sort of a theme that has come up. I've heard Cody say it, I've heard Natty say it, I've heard Becky say it, I've heard a few different people say it. And it's like this, is that ultimately what it is? You know, after that mania and, what was it in Philly when Cody had that match? And you sort of seen everything, like the storytelling of everything breaking his way, made everybody so like, yeah, Cody, I guess that's what it is. Just watching Nat happen that way, it's gotta be the best way to explain it. I mean, it seems like it. Yeah, I think people just wanna be able to root for themselves the way they root for these people. That's right, to root for themselves, because shit happens to everybody, right? And you're trying to get to this one place, whatever that is, and it seems like everything gets in the way. Yeah, yeah, damn, I guess I never thought of it that way, but that's 100% correct. That Philly mania was incredible. Philly mania was incredible. That was something. That was one of the best live experiences I've ever had. Because of the ride. The last match? Just everything, the last match. It was just like, it felt like a culmination of everything. Yeah, it was a nice build. I mean, it really was, but I mean, even if you followed his career, but way beyond that, when you think about it and what he did leaving, and then coming back as a bigger star than he ever was. I mean. When he came back, were you guys prepared for, and then this payoff, or was it sort of slow playing it, and that just felt like the natural progression? It was complicated. There was one plan that had it happening right away, and then some other things happened, and the plan changed. But we were all in on Cody. As soon as he came back. I think it, playing out the way it played out was so perfect because it was, you could believe that something went wrong. Because even outside of the story, I always feel like in wrestling, there's the story, and then the outside story. And you feel like the outside story sort of matched the inside story. We want this guy to win. Let him win, let him win. Yeah, and then him finally winning, and the way he won, and everybody getting there, comeuppings was like, oh, this is fun to watch. And it was like, yeah, the payoff has really made the whole thing worth it. And it's like, Dave told me something, Dave Chappelle told me something that, I'll never forget the first time he hosted SNL. It was during, it was like this 2016 election. It was emotional, like everybody, like it was just like everybody was fighting, and whatever, but Dave did the show, and it was a fun show, and it felt like people were laughing together. And he said, at good nights, he turned around, you know everybody's hugging, he turned around, and he looked, and it was such a stressful week, and he was like, I looked at you guys, and I realized, oh, you guys gotta come back and do this again, Monday. And I'm outta here, I'm gonna take a week off, and you guys have to do this again. And that's what I felt watching that WrestleMania, it was at 41 or 40, 40, and I'm like, that culmination and all that, I'm like, oh, they still gotta show tomorrow. Tomorrow, yeah. After all of that, it's not like, and then we didn't live happily ever after, no. They gotta wrestle tomorrow. Yeah, the next season starts the next day. And get that interest back, it's just crazy. I was like, that's, I was thoroughly, from performer to performer, I was thoroughly impressed by that, seriously, yeah. We are with Fanatics, and they have a question for you, Michael. Saturday Night Live has had an amazing history of co-anchors on Weekend Update. If you had to choose two wrestlers from any time who could handle the Weekend Update desk, who do you think would be up to the challenge as a good co-anchor duo? From any time? Yes. Wow, number one's gotta be, I gotta go Piper. Piper jumps out to me as just one of the best public speakers there are, there's ever been. Now, does he need a straight man? Yes. Okay. He's gonna, he definitely, Not too wild personalities. You know what? One straight man, one wild, or no? I'm gonna go Heenan. Oh. Piper and Heenan update, who's not watching that? Oh my gosh, that's amazing. Who's not watching that? Absolutely, absolutely. Piper and Heenan, yes. So good. That'll be my update. I wonder if AI can make that happen. I bet it could, probably could. Yeah. Awesome. Wait, who would you like to see? Oh my God, well, Piper and Heenan was great one. Yeah, okay, I won. I mean, really. Heenan doing anything. Heenan doing anything. I love Bobby Heenan. I love Bobby. Oh my God, so smart. I think what I love is when, like, and I think comedians who are successful are really, really, really smart. And so I love when humor makes me think. And Bobby was always just like so fast. So fast. You know, I love that. And he was always Bobby. Always. And he, and like that kind of, he sort of had that slight mania, you know? Yeah. That sort of like that panic. I don't know how slight it was. Yeah. But he was like, yeah, he's the best. I find if I needed somebody on my side, I wanted to be Bobby. Yeah, I agree. Hands down. He's the bomb. Have you ever had sort of like a white whale of, man, I wish that person could have been a wrestler? Or at least did like a program. That's such an interesting question. I have always wanted Serena. Oh, that's cool. I think she would have been amazing. I really do. Oh, that's really cool. I think she would have been awesome. She could talk shit and back it up, you know? I like that. Yeah. I like that. Serena Williams. Oh, I like that. And she would, she'd stack up. She would look the part up. Yeah, she would certainly look the part. Yeah. Oh, that's cool. I thought she'd be great. That's really cool. Oh, that's cool. How about you? Who would you love to see in there? That's a good one. It is a good one. Well, no, no. A name came to mind, but I don't know. I don't know if that's a good choice. But. Yeah, who would be good? Who came to mind? McGregor. Oh, yeah. Just because of the way he talks. Yeah, and the walk. But I think he might be crazy. But we're not talking reality based anyway. This is all hypothetical. But that's that's who came to mind. I was like, oh, that's that would be like a conner. McGregor versus Pungano and Mike. Can you imagine the program? Yeah, the build would be outrageous. It would be insanity, man. Yeah, he would be someone that's kind of fun to watch. Or like. One of those like like like an endemic ensue or somebody like like a terrifying football player, you know, somebody like that, like a Ray Lewis or somebody like, oh man, this guy starts from I remember the Lawrence Taylor. And I remember how you know, I remember most how tired he was afterwards. Literally carry him. That was cool. And Salt and Peppa sang him to the ring. What a man. I remember I was there. I just like the the error of the wrestlers that come out that I'm like, I haven't heard that name in so long or whatever. Like, you know, you kind of people that you forgot. And then also like as I've got no dirt, I didn't realize like when I was a kid or at the time, I didn't know that certain characters were other characters. Right. So like, you know what I mean? Like there's like people that you might like from somewhere else that you're like, Oh, that was Texas tornado. I didn't know. Put together that that was Carrivana. Right. Right. So like stuff like that was like really cool. Like, oh, wait, that Papa, Sean goes to Godfather. Yeah. How's that possible? Yeah. So like it I love I love stuff like that. But I like Roy Rumbles in my favorite. And I like the house shows. Yeah. Like just random house shows where it'll be like Adrian Adonis or, you know, people like people that you really don't see that often in papers because there wasn't a lot of pay-per-views back in those days. So you didn't see all the wrestlers at WrestleMania. Yeah. But, you know, at a house show, you can see Ken Patero or something. You know, like, whoa, you know what I mean? Like that kind of thing. So I like those old ones or like Afro Andre. I like Andre when he had the big Afro. Yeah, he did. Athletic and all of that. But that's like I said, the doll, he was like this. I have the doll too. Big, you know, the big Andre doll. Yeah. He's like this. We got the big old Afro. He's in the trunks because they have one with the singlet. With the singlet. Yeah. But I'm remembering the trunks too. The blue trunks. Like it blue. Yeah. I can picture the same thing. Yeah. The white. Yeah. The white pants. The stars on the side or something. Yeah. Yeah. Like blue stars and red boots. Red boots. Yeah. Those dolls were hard. They were really hard. You got hit with one of those dolls. And I have. Yes. I had a little cousin. I still have him. But his name is Donovan and he used to get those dolls and you better keep your head on the surface. Because he will whip them at you and they hurt. Yeah. It was, oh man, I had Greg Valentine that had Magnificent Morocco. Oh, yes. He had a t-shirt. But so Fuji Vice was a take off on Miami Vice. I had a Fuji. And it was pretty funny. Was he a little cool? It was like a skit that aired within TNT. Oh. Oh. Who was he with? Oh my gosh. Well, I'll tell you Bruce Pritchard can tell you all these stories. But he was with Don Morocco. I mean, that was the idea. Oh, OK. All right. All right. OK. Don. Yeah. OK. But I've heard Bruce tell a lot of these stories. Fuji. I mean, I'm just going to hang out with him and just pick his brain. I would. I would love to. I mean, as you can see, I can talk this stuff all day. I loved it. I'm a big, big wrestling fan. It's awesome. Is it? I have one question. OK. Just one question. Who were you the most shocked by being a huge wrestling fan? Oh. Like, were you like, really? I think I'm more surprised when people aren't fans than when they are. Like, like, really? You've never heard of it. Like that is shocking to me. Yeah, that does. Yeah, I don't know how that's possible. I've never understood that. I think Lynn, I was pretty surprised that he was. Really? Yeah. That wouldn't shock me. And then I had heard that he had been even in the UK to like an NXT at that time. Like, I mean, with the limited amount of time that he has that he would want to come to WWE, like that, I think that one surprised me. Was there anybody that ever like asked to be a part of it? And you were like, no, man, you don't, you're not going to be able to wrestle. I don't make those decisions. But I'll tell you who was Michael Chey and Colin Jose. Yeah. They do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do exclusive photography, each card is made for the moment. And for some lucky collectors, that moment could become the pull of a lifetime. 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This is WrestleMania Road to Gold and it only lives at Fanatics Casino. Must be 21 and over. Gambling problem, call 1-800-GAMBLER. Not available in all states, see Fanatics Casino app. Did your grandmother get to see you perform stand up? Martha, right? Martha, Martha did not get to see me do stand up. Martha is a very, very religious woman. Martha's never heard me swear. Oh, oh. Martha's not coming to the show. The technology off the top was. Martha would be washing my mouth with a toilet brush right now. She, but incidentally, funniest person I ever met. Really? Funniest person had, you know, she's funny in a way that's like she doesn't know. And it's never on purpose. She's not trying to be funny. She was just one of those like no filter brain to mouth and you're just like horrified. Like literally will horrify a room where you're like, grandma, you cannot do that. But yeah, she was so funny and everything she said would be, she would say like the craziest, funniest things, but nothing would make me laugh harder than when she laughed hard. Because her laugh was like she couldn't breathe. Like she was like, ah, like you know, there were people laughing. Like you're like, are you okay? She would laugh in a way where it'd be like no sound for five minutes. Oh my God, that's awesome. And then she just. And then suddenly the big. And then suddenly, yeah, just like, oh, she laughed. So, and it would be like, she was just the best. She was like such a, she was a tough, tough, tough lady. And she could be difficult. His grandma's could be, she could be difficult. She was tough though. She meant what she said. And she was funny though. She was pure. Is there any story that comes to mind? There's a few. That you're able to tell without getting in trouble. I don't know. I don't know. Come on. Oh man, I don't know. Well, yeah, she was, I don't know. I don't know. That's a tough one. Grandma's stories are the best. Grandma's stories are the best. I remember she, before she passed away, she was, she needed, there was a point where she needed like 24 hour care. Yeah. And she couldn't remember and all that. But I remember I would go, I would go to the hospital, talk to her. She would forget who I was like four times in two hours or whatever. And she would talk about her plans to go to wherever. And you're just, you know, she would talk like she was single. And you're like, what? But if I asked her about something from the 60s or 50s of song or anything. Oh, she remembered it like it was happening just now. I could tell her if I asked her like what she wore to church, she could tell you about her fox and her this and that. She would make all her clothes. Really? She would make all her clothes. She would just, all she did was pray and so cook, love, that was her. So it was just, it was pure. She was beautiful. And my grandfather was my introduction to professional wrestling. Really? My grandfather, only thing he watched was the news, Sanford and Son and wrestling. Only thing he watched on TV, news, Sanford and Son and wrestling. And when I was a kid, I kind of learned how to talk with like my brothers and sisters obviously, but I would go to my grandfather's house and I would watch wrestling with him and I would tell him about last week's show. I would tell him about the iron sheik and I would tell him all these people, you know, two, three years old and he would just be so interested. And I had no idea. So that's like late, I was like, oh, he was just encouraging me to talk. But he would act like he needed to hear this. You know what I mean? He would eat peanuts. We would eat peanuts. He made you the most important person in the room. And I was the most important because I had this information and I thought I needed to bring it to him. I was like, oh, grandpa's gotta hear this. I gotta tell grandpa. I gotta tell him what Piper's up to, you know? He's not gonna believe this. Yeah, but he loved wrestling. We would talk wrestling all the time. And that was sort of my introduction to New York's Madison Square Garden, the microphone. I'm telling you, I love that microphone. Yeah, funny people. My grandfather was like a ham on purpose. He was a preacher. He was a pastor for many years. So he was an orator. He knew how to speak. He knew how to command a room. Oh, there's some dots connected. Yeah, he knew how to do that thing. But my grandmother was just purely funny. Just offensive. So you're kind of like a combo. My grandparents was Patrice O'Neill. Oh, together. Together. No, yeah, they were great people. We lost them both, but man, they lived the heck of a life and brought a lot of cool people in the world. And they did, yeah. And did your brother and sisters watch as well? Or mainly just you? My brothers, you were the baby. My brothers, yeah, they watched a lot of, they was savvier. So they knew, I guess they would have known a different generation, but because I'm by far the baby. My closest siblings, eight years. Oh, eight years, okay. So I'm like, I'm by far the baby. And yeah, they will watch, but they wasn't into it the way I was into it. Because by the time I was into it, into it, they were like outside. Older, whatever. It was like whatever. But when I was into it, I was like obsessed with it for years and years. I used to get the supermarket plastic bags and I would cut the bottom of the bag and I would put it on like a tank top and I would rip my shirt like her clothes. Did you not do that? Did the kids not do that? Can I just say that this is the smartest thing? Yeah, absolutely would do. Because the actual t-shirts are very hard to rip. I'll say the one that you're close, but they're very, very hard to rip. That's ingenious. If you got like a shop right bag, it was yellow and red. You cut the bottom of the bag, you wear it like a tank top. But actually you're so smart. It looks like a spaghetti strap, because it's like the strap in here. And then you just rip it. Oh, that's so smart. It's whole kogan, yeah. Yeah, that was a big deal. Genius. You've never heard this before? No, now there's no more plastic bags. Yeah, they're hard to come by. But I'm shocked that other kids didn't do that. Maybe they did, but I never heard about it. We definitely did. Yeah, this is gonna be a new question. Yeah, no, man, that was a big deal. No, for sure. That was, oh man, we was creative, nice. Yes. This is how I find out. And smart and creative, which is no surprise. We love wrestling, love wrestling. I used to go to a video store and get the tapes. Do you remember the name of the Coliseum Home Video? Coliseum Home Video, I remember, they had like WrestleFests and Nodos. They had like just weird, there was like countries I never even heard of where they was wrestling because I only watched Saturdays and Sundays, Challenge and Superstars. And then they had an event when they would come on, which was awesome. To this day, I hate Mash because Mash would come on late. And that's when wrestling was over. I hated it. I would watch Golden Girls and then wrestling. Yeah, I remember this. Oh my God, so me too. Me too. Yeah, when Mash comes on, that means it's time to go to bed. Though I did learn a lot in that. Damn helicopter. Ha ha ha ha. Damn helicopter. I hated it. Good characters in Mash though. Maybe, I don't know. I never watched it. I was just like, ah, it just gives me like a bad feeling. I learned how to do a tracheotomy with a pen. Watching Mash. Really? Is it funny? I don't really know how to do it. Is it actually funny though? Like is it good? It must be, people love it. It was, I mean, now I know why I watched so much Mash. Cause it just came on. You said come on, I remember. And Golden Girls, I did love Golden Girls too. Golden Girls is the bomb. It's still the bomb. It was so funny. They still don't write shows as good as the different Golden Girls now. But I think also too, we don't, there's not as many seasoned performers as back in the day. Like those, like, B-Author and Betty White, they, these are like performers. Anastel Getty. They had, Anastel Getty, they had to perform like decades, decades, Vaudeville, on stage, you know, whatever. Like they were like- Do you think especially as women at that time, was it harder? I think it was just a show business thing. I think in show business, you just had to be that sort of, you know, like in baseball, five to play, like you kind of had to know how to do it. You had to sing and dance and act and be funny and do everything. And I think now it's sort of personality based where if we like this guy as something or we like this lady for whatever reason, then we'll just cast them in everything until people get sick of them, as opposed to them being amazing performers by the time they get on television. So when you watch those old shows and you see everybody's hitting their mark and everybody's scoring and everything. Yeah, to click in, you know. I mean, I feel like that in wrestling too. Like you could watch wrestling and you realize, like there's guys, like I remember I would hear like wrestling interviews and they would say like, who's the greatest wrestler? And they'll be like, you know, they may say like Owen Hart is the best wrestler obviously and I would be like, he didn't win the championships, you know? But in my, because in my head they didn't write them to win, but for wrestlers that watch wrestling, like they know I can't look good as good as I look if I wasn't going against Owen Hart. Like he's carrying it in this way or whoever it is or, you know, Sean or, you know, the short list of names that people talk about as these are the best people I've ever seen. Like as a layman, if you're just watching, you're just only thinking about the guys that win the most. You're not thinking about the guy that makes everybody look good. That makes you care about the story. That's kind of bringing people in. So, you know, does that make sense? It does. It does. So I... Oh, also I just saw step three, 16. Oh yeah. Congratulations. Oh, thank you. Congratulations. Thank you very much. I can't even touch my hands. Congratulations. Well deserved. I think the undertaker coming out to announce it is such a cool way. And did you, were you really surprised? You look so confused. I was. You were like, what are you doing? And Elise didn't know either. And so we're sitting there and, you know, one of our cameraman comes over and he goes, Steph, we want to shoot over your shoulder to get taker's entrance. And I'm like, oh, okay. I didn't even know taker was here tonight, but it makes sense. It's a big show. Like I don't always know what's happening and these days. And, you know, and here he comes and he makes eye contact with me. And I'm like, yeah, because he normally would make eye contact with me because I give him shit on a regular basis. And I thought the bike kind of stalled because I thought he was supposed to go around, you know? And so I'm kind of like, you know, I'm about to give him a hard time about it, but he keeps looking at me. And I'm like, well, this is weird. Yeah, you can read that. You can read that. Then then here he comes and he starts talking directly to me. And then here he comes over the wall and he tells me to sit down and I'm like, okay, I don't know what this is, but we're live. So I'm with it, you know? And you can see him and he goes, so are you ready? And I'm like, whoa. Oh. Oh. Oh. Always ready, always ready. And then when he said the word induct or induction or whatever, I was like, no way. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. And then I didn't know what to do. That's really cool. Because then it was all too real. That's really cool. But I love him. And he's like a big brother to me. As long as I can remember. Yeah, that was, I remember when we did that, that thing with, and met life going back and seeing him and Vincent Hogan and those guys, I was just like, this is a dream. Right. This is like, this is crazy. Yeah, the welcome to my world. Yeah, no, I was like, it was bizarre. It was crazy. That's how I grew up. It's a fever dream. Literally, like after the prom, the next day I see Hogan. He's going riding bikes with my dad motorcycles. That's crazy. And like, these people have been there my whole life. I would come home from high school and find Ric Flair in my living room. Crazy. That sounds terrifying. I mean, it was, and I have to say, it's funny because I'm like, kid, you know? And it wasn't terrifying as much as it was somewhat annoying to have my personal space invaded all the time. Ric Flair, that's nuts. And ultimate warrior who baffled me that he was a chiropractor. He was a chiropractor? Licensed chiropractor. Yeah, I know. Can you battle it? I'm gonna crack your back. No, no, I'm not letting him do anything, man. Don't touch me. No, no. So last question. Okay. You speak a lot about sketch comedy and you had the show on HBO. So it seems as though you love sketch comedy. I know where you're going. No, no, that's it, open ended. I wasn't going anywhere. I was just, I mean. Scared me for a second. No, I mean, I could ask you to come write some sketches for WWE. Oh, oh, that's small. That's where I would go, but. That would be a nighttime yes. No, no, no, no, no. No, I would, I would, I am not kidding. I wish I never said that because I would love to do that. Yeah. I would love to do that. That would be like bucket list. See, that would be fun. That would be bucket list. Yeah. I, that would be, okay. You know what? I'm gonna be mad you said that. I'm just saying. You might regret saying that. Well, I don't think I'm gonna regret that. That could be really fun. That could be really fun. That could be really fun. That's like a cool, I'm a fan. You know, the performers now are like, there's some really, really cool. You know, I love the E.O. Sky. Yeah. And Rio and I was saying J.D. Rio. Rio, yeah. Together. That's what they call them together. Oh, Rio, I was like what? I was like her name, I'm saying Rio is whole time. It's Rio? Okay. Rio. Yeah, sorry. I'm sorry. That's them. Yo, oh, yo, you almost, I almost felt so stupid. I was like, am I that guy that's just naming stuff not knowing what he's talking about? All right, cool. Rio, fair. No, I love them. I love Jacob Fattu. I love, there's so many like really, really fun people to watch. I love division. I love Paul Heyman. I have a question for Paul Heyman. Okay. Go ahead. I have a serious question for Paul Heyman. I don't know if anybody's ever asked him this, but is Paul Heyman, like, did he get inspiration from, do you know where you guys got inspiration? I've heard him say a few things. He reminds me so much of the lawyer from the wire. Oh. Yeah, no one's taught that. I'm telling you, I was watching the wire. I was like, this is Paul Heyman. This is literally my client, I was like, yo, he reminds me so much. Levi, I think his name was. I think Paul Heyman is really inspired from a lot of places. It could be. He's one of the best people I've ever seen on television. Like, he's on the short list of just the best. I don't know why he's not a four time Emmy winner. He's so good on television and I watch every time he's on, it's like something cool or developing. And I love when his hair turns white, when he gets stressed, and when it turns black when he's confident. Like, he's got so many little weird nuances of a performer. You know, he takes it so seriously. I could see. I could see. And like when he's supposed to be strung out, he won't sleep for days. You can see it on him. Like I saw like last week he had like stubble. And the red eye. Yeah, he's so good. He's really fun to watch. And he makes all those guys look, I mean, he's just the hot sauce. Yeah. He's the hot sauce man. He's so good. But yeah. Multiple levels. Huge fan of all of those folks. So you have a lot to work with. Yeah, no, I mean. Oh, I'm so excited. I'm excited. This whole car ride, I'm going to be like. Yeah, no, this is, this is, this is so much fun. No, thank you so much for doing this really. I'm so grateful that. No, no, this was a, this is a real treat. And it's also like a kind of, yeah, I appreciate first of all what you guys did for my childhood. And yeah, I appreciate the product that you guys are still putting out. And anytime, yeah, this was, this is so much, I appreciate being able to go to Giant State, met life as they call it. I still call Giant Stadium because I'm 67 years old. I appreciate being able to go there and be booed. I've never felt that, like that feeling of coming out. And there's nothing like it in the world. There's nothing like it in the world. Pure adrenaline. It's pure adrenaline. And you guys were like, I mean, it was. But you guys were great. It was so much fun. And you were so fun. It was so much fun. It was like, yeah. Do you think Colin had any idea what he was getting into? Colin, yes, he's crazy. I don't know if you've seen, he's like, if the Olympics getting hurt. He's like, yeah. Yeah. And the gear, oh my God, the gear was awesome. Oh, that's a thing. A DDP was like, when I saw the head gear, I popped. He's like, you popped me with the head gear, kid. Oh my God. Yeah, because Odell just went to the Browns. You guys, I can't. My favorite, my favorite was we did a raw and filly. We did a raw and filly. We was backstage and we saw Nia Jax. And she was very nice. Everybody was so kind to us. And Colin was like, yeah, since it's filly, I'm going to put on a Mets hat to get them to boo me. And she goes, oh honey, you don't need to put on a hat. She said, you got heel face. They're going to boo you no matter what you do. Oh my God. That's funny. It was a great moment, man. It was so cool. And he was like, I'm not sure how to take that. Yeah, yeah. Look at how much younger we are. Yeah. It was like five, two years ago, one year. Does he put on the hat here? Is this what he does? I think it is. 2019. Oh, 2019. Yeah. There we go. Strat is broken. It's even better. I never noticed that before. That's so much better. Oh, that's so cool, man. That's so cool. And you know what else was cool was at the garden recently when I asked you the night time, yes. And you and Lynn seemed to like really, so I had so much fun sitting with Lynn. Like not to name drop, right? But he's amazing and he's such a fan. And I get to be a fan now too. So the whole time we were like going back and forth and I'm like, take that Lin Manuel. And I'm having like the most fun with him. And then here you come and you guys are like such buds and like it's such a, it is a community. And it's weird because like I never know who's going to be there whenever we like, whenever I get to go to, to especially like at the garden, you never know who's going to be there. And there's so many people that I wouldn't even, I don't even remember a track that their fans, cause like when we got there for that one, Pete was there. Lynn was there. I think Eric was there. Shultz was there. It was just like crazy. It was a lot of people and it was like a really fun thing. Like, oh, I think we all grew up similar. We all kind of grew up in the city. We all, so it's just like, that's like Mecca, you know, that would be for us, you know, he had a garden, that's the, that's the granddaddy. And then watching the scene, I was like, that was cool as hell. That was cool as hell. I love him. I told you after that night at Barclays, I was like, you got it. I get what they're doing. This is special. This is, this is me ripping the plastic bag. That's what it's about. You know, it was really cool. And yeah, he'll be missed. I hope we get to see him do something else in some capacity. I'm sure he'll be involved. You think so? I think so. I'm asking if you think so. Really? How do you know? I don't know if he'll ever wrestle again, you know, but I think he's not going to be a stranger. Yeah, okay. You know, he loves this too much. How could you not? Yeah. How could you not? There's nothing better. Yeah, some people find it personal. Except maybe we can't have a world, you know. Weekend update. You know what? Especially when you do the jokes. It's my favorite. Yeah, but that's, and that's a, that's a time when we can show how we feel about each other. That makes it, that makes it fun. This is so funny when he's going to read something. It makes it fun. You know, it's one of those things. It should be fun. It's where the context comes in. Like, I don't want to take up all your time, but like it's just like in, you know, there's performers that can get away with certain things on raw. Like if the rock says something one way, everybody can't say it the way the rock say it, you know. Everybody can't get away with it. But since he's doing it, it's, it feels even crazier, you know. And I feel like joke swap is kind of one of those things where we could never do any of this stuff in the show, but in the world of joke swap, we can get away with it. Right. And because you don't know what you're reading. And you don't know what it's going to be. So the context of it just makes it a lot more fun. Yeah. Is the first time you're reading it in the dress rehearsal or is it the live? Well, that's the thing. We trick each other. So for dress, we have to, we have to read something for dress rehearsal because we need it for time. But then we switch them for air. So great. So there, that's the first time. And who was the first person to do that? It was Colin's idea, but I thought it was a prank. I thought he was pranking me. So he was like, I got this idea where we write each other's jokes and then we read them live on there. And I was like, oh, you're just going to try to make me say something really bad. So I'm going to make you say something way worse. And then when I read the jokes, I was like, this isn't that bad. Oh, no. I just went crazy for no reason. But then it was like, no turning back. So that's how it started. Then he was like, what? Yeah, yeah. I think, yeah, it was, it was crazy. So good. That's awesome. Yeah, it was crazy. Yeah, I misunderstood the assignment. It worked. No, no, I think you understood it. You understood it just fine. It turned out okay though. This is so much fun, man. And I love it. This is great. You guys should give me an office. Yeah, I think we should. Well, if you're going to be writing sketches, you're going to need one, right? Yeah, man. This is, yeah, I would love that. Seriously, bucketless. Well, you're an incredible performer. And if you want to catch some of your special, you can see it by seeing you on the road. Yeah, come by, come out. I don't know where I'll be ever. But it's on your website? Like, where can they find... Well, I don't have anything on the books that's not sold out. Oh, okay. Am I right? All right. So, yeah. That's awesome. Yeah, I mean, whatever. Yeah, that's... Yeah. Yeah. No, but if you ever see me, if you ever see me, don't boo. If you ever see me come out, it's a good time. And, yeah, this was fun. I want to come see you. Anytime. Yeah. Anytime. All right. Anytime, yes. Anytime, yes. Anytime, yes. Okay. Locked in. All right. Thank you. No, thank you. No, seriously. I hope I didn't take up too much time. I was just having a good-ass time talking with you guys. That's awesome. That's what's supposed to be. This was so much fun.