Jim Cornette Experience

Jim Cornette Experience Special - Funniest Moments Omnibus, Volume 4

278 min
Dec 25, 20255 months ago
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Summary

Jim Cornette and Brian Last review funny moments from their podcast archives, discuss AEW booking inconsistencies (particularly Tony Storm's heel/face flip-flopping), analyze John Moxley's concussion and proposed safety protocols, and cover various wrestling industry news including Ric Flair's Pizzano's restaurant incident, Kota Ibushi's ankle injuries, and South Korean fan awards heavily favoring Cody Rhodes while criticizing Moxley.

Insights
  • AEW's inconsistent character alignment (babyface/heel switching week-to-week) confuses audiences and undermines long-term storytelling, with Dave Meltzer defending the practice while Brian Alvarez correctly identifies it as poor booking
  • Safety protocols in wrestling remain reactive rather than proactive; Moxley's proposed 'red button' system oversimplifies complex in-ring communication that already exists through referees and gorilla position
  • Celebrity involvement in wrestling (Action Bronson, Bad Bunny) requires professional organizational infrastructure; ghosting talent after initial angles damages credibility and wastes drawing potential
  • International wrestling audiences (South Korea) demonstrate clearer critical judgment of American wrestling product than domestic fans, rating based on consistent character work and business logic
  • Booking mistakes compound when leadership lacks accountability; Tony Khan's pattern of signing injured talent and non-pushable performers suggests decision-making disconnected from business fundamentals
Trends
Decline of consistent character psychology in favor of crowd-reactive, situational booking destroying narrative coherenceSafety theater replacing actual safety protocols in wrestling; proposed solutions often miss existing infrastructureCelebrity crossover talent underutilized due to poor backstage integration and lack of follow-up bookingInternational wrestling fandom more analytically rigorous than domestic market; South Korean voters prioritize logic over spectacleTalent management failures creating pattern of injuries, ghosting, and contract waste in major promotionsPodcast/media personalities (Dave Meltzer) influencing booking decisions without editorial accountabilityInconsistent medical response to in-ring injuries; hospitals misidentifying wrestlers as mentally ill based on celebrity claimsMerchandise and sponsorship deals (Rick Flair spirits, Mercedes Monay text service) becoming primary revenue for aging talentProduction meeting failures leading to on-air exposure of business (kayfabe breaks) during promotional segments
Topics
AEW booking inconsistency and character alignmentWrestling safety protocols and concussion managementHeel/babyface psychology in modern wrestlingCelebrity talent integration in professional wrestlingInternational wrestling fandom analysisTalent contract management and ghostingWrestling referee communication systemsIn-ring medical emergency responseKayfabe protection and production standardsMerchandise and alternative revenue streams for wrestlersDave Meltzer's influence on AEW creative decisionsStorytelling consistency in episodic wrestling televisionVeteran wrestler booking and age-related limitationsWrestling journalism credibility and biasTalent recruitment and retention strategies
Companies
AEW (All Elite Wrestling)
Primary subject of criticism regarding inconsistent character booking, safety protocols, talent management, and decli...
WWE
Referenced as industry standard for consistent babyface/heel alignment and character psychology compared to AEW's sit...
New Japan Pro Wrestling
Mentioned regarding Kota Ibushi's injuries and Japanese wrestling landscape; context for international wrestling stan...
Pro Wrestling NOAH
Promotion where Kota Ibushi suffered double ankle injury during January 2024 match with Marifuji
Ascension Macomb Oakland Hospital
Michigan hospital sued by Four Tops singer Alexander Morris for racial discrimination and medical malpractice during ...
Pizzano's Stone Fired Pizza
Gainesville, Florida restaurant where Rick Flair was cut off and allegedly removed, leading to social media controversy
Rick Flair Spirits
Alcohol brand launched by Rick Flair featuring products like Woosky and Flair Bourbon
Smoky Mountain Wrestling
Territory where Jim Cornette booked and managed talent, referenced for safety and booking standards
OVW (Ohio Valley Wrestling)
Wrestling school and promotion where Cornette produced 301 hours of television with minimal injury incidents
Marvelous
Japanese women's wrestling promotion where Kota Ibushi competed in six-person tag match for Chigusa Nagayo's 60th bir...
People
Jim Cornette
Co-host providing wrestling industry analysis, historical context, and critical commentary on modern booking practices
Brian Last
Co-host managing show production, research, and facilitating discussions on wrestling news and analysis
Tony Khan
Primary subject of criticism for inconsistent booking decisions, talent management failures, and poor production stan...
Dave Meltzer
Criticized for defending AEW's inconsistent character booking and appearing to receive inside information from Tony Khan
Brian Alvarez
Engaged in debate with Meltzer over Tony Storm character consistency, correctly identifying booking flaws
John Moxley
Suffered concussion during match, proposed new safety protocols; heavily criticized in South Korean wrestling awards
Tony Storm
Subject of booking inconsistency debate; character alternates between heel and babyface week-to-week without logical ...
Kota Ibushi
Signed to AEW contract while injured; suffered double ankle injury in Japan, continues wrestling despite severe limit...
Rick Flair
Involved in Pizzano's restaurant incident, social media controversy with Jim Ross, and alcohol brand business venture
Jim Ross
Undergoing cancer treatment; subject of Rick Flair's controversial tweets about seeking attention
Alexander Morris
Sued Michigan hospital for racial discrimination after being placed in straight jacket during cardiac emergency
Cody Rhodes
Heavily favored in South Korean wrestling awards; referenced as example of consistent character work
MVP
Delivered strong verbal work cutting down Brian Keith and Big Bill in segment, demonstrating character psychology
Mercedes Monay
Charging fans $99/month for text message access and publishing digital magazine about herself
Action Bronson
Appeared in AEW match, criticized backstage environment as clicky and weird; expressed frustration about not being ca...
Ash Avilson
Director of Queen of the Ring film; appeared on AEW broadcast in awkward segment with poor production management
Serena Deeb
Character inconsistently booked as both babyface and heel; fans rejected sympathetic storyline about near-death exper...
Chigusa Nagayo
60-year-old wrestler celebrating retirement; competed against Kota Ibushi in six-person tag match
Quotes
"I spent 1500 hours at Pizzanos to be disrespected more than I ever have in my entire life"
Rick FlairPizza incident discussion
"The first thing I learned about pro wrestlers y'all know you're gonna win before anybody else does"
Demaris Lewis (actress)Queen of the Ring segment
"My legs are at their limit and it could end at any time"
Kota IbushiInjury discussion
"I tried being nice and this is my last message to everyone I've got more money than I've got time go f yourself haters"
Rick FlairTwitter response to Jim Ross controversy
"It doesn't matter who the babyface is or the heel is, you know, in this day and age, the crowd's going to do what the crowd's going to do"
Dave MeltzerTony Storm booking debate
Full Transcript
Hello again friends! And you are our friends, the great Ryan last here, you there! We are back on the bus for a very popular installment, well, we don't know, I guess it will be, but a popular series, the latest installment, once again. What the hell are you talking about at this point? Oh, that's the wrong sound. There we go. But here we are. Stick your organ in if talking doesn't work. Ladies and gentlemen, the latest omnibus, Jim Cornette's funniest moments, volume 4. I'm the great Brian last. Here is the leader of the cult of Cornette, Mr. Jim Cornette. Well, ladies and gentlemen, we've done a few before of these omnibus of our funniest moments. Sometimes they were planned to be funny and sometimes it just turns out that way. And so they've been so popular, we've done another one. This one goes back over a number of years. You may find some of your classic favorites in here, or if you're a newer listener, you might not have heard something and well, you'll hear it here and wouldn't that just be swell. But we're going to just tickle the cockles of your cockles with some of the funniest repartee and wittiest banter that has ever been cast on a pod before. That's right. And we think you'll enjoy this. We're looking forward to listening back to this. And in fact, Jim has already promised at the end of this show, if you listen to all of this, he'll be back here with me with the funniest joke you ever heard. But let's get to the omnibus now. Jim Cornette's funniest moments, volume four. On the straight shooting series, volume two DVD, you told Bobby the brain hewn into better raccoon invading your house. Can you please share the raccoon story with the listeners? Well, OK. We had just moved into Castle Cornette after the renovations. This was some 12 years ago or so. Stacy was in California, visiting her family at the time. I was here by myself and I'm in the bedroom. I'm watching TV and I hear this. Right. Somewhere. I'm thinking, what? It wasn't like somebody was knocking on the door. It was just a continuous. And I look out the window at the back door and there's nobody there. And I turn out on turn on all the outside lights and I look around the house and everything's locked up. It's two o'clock in the morning or whatever time it is on Sunday. And so I lay back down watching TV and a minute later. I walk around again. I'm saying, what the fuck? I cannot find anything out of place or anything wrong. So if while later, I get up to walk from the bedroom through my hallway into the bathroom. And when you look to the right in the hallway, you look down into the kitchen. And as I walk through the hallway and I happen to glance to the right, I see the biggest fucking raccoon that I've ever seen in my life in my kitchen. Walking across the floor, it looks up at me, doesn't register anything, kind of turns left and goes into my living room. What the fuck? Well, now I'm naked. First of all, I have no shoes. The shoes are past the raccoon. They're at the front door because we got a no shoes policy in the castle. And I'm naked because I'm home alone. I'm in bed at two o'clock in the morning. So I'm like, well, I'm not going to fight a fucking potentially rabid raccoon naked. So. But at the same time, this is this is a sizable. Are you people up north? Are you familiar with the raccoons? Yeah, we have them here, too. OK, well, this is a sizable raccoon. It's the size of a medium sized dog. It looked like to me. I don't know. It was a 25, 30 pounder. It had to be. Oh, wow. I mean, it just it was it was enormous. And I'm what the so I go back in the bedroom and I close the door. And I'm thinking now I'm not going to take. I do have a weapon, even though I am very pro gun control. I have a small, non automatic handgun that I've had for 30 years that I do use in my home for protection. I've actually never used it because I've never needed it, but it's there. And I'm not against those small, you know, one bullet at a time, six bullet type of firearms. But I'm a ham against in my brand new recently renovated home, chasing after a goddamn raccoon in my living room and trying to pick it off. Right. I've never fired the fucking gun to begin. Well, I fired it once 30 years ago when I got it. Make sure it worked and that's it. So I'm thinking the gun is out. I don't know that I want to take a bat after the raccoon in my brand new renovated house, especially since in the living room, that's where the majority of the antiques in the house are. What do I do? I know. I'll call 9 1 1. So I call 9 1 1 and they say, sir, what's your emergency? I said, I'm not really sure. I said, I have a potentially rabid and very large raccoon loose in my home. That was the response I got. And they say, did you say a raccoon as a yes, a raccoon? It's loose. It's in my home. It might be rabid. I don't know. I'm not acquainted with. We've never met me in this coon. I said, is there a procedure to follow here? And they say, well, it's now it's three o'clock in the morning on Sunday. So, you know, animal control is closed, but we can send the cops out. And I'm like, well, I live in the town I live in. They're doing nothing at this time of night anyway. There's no crime here. So I will go and send them. Well, the raccoon call went out and apparently they really weren't doing anything because I got guess how many police cars I got for a call of a rabid raccoon in my home. I don't know. Three. Four. And now and they said, just stay there. So now I open the bedroom door and I can hear his claws on my towel floor. He's back in the kitchen. Right. So finally, the cops get here. They knock on the front door. Now I'm dressed, but I still don't have any shoes, but I got to go to the front door. So I do pick up. I can't remember what it was I had in the bedroom. It was some type of blunt instrument. And I creep down the stairs right in front of the kitchen is the front door and I open the front door and the cops come in. I said, all right, guys, I said, there's a raccoon in this fucking house somewhere. I saw it. OK, so they start at the bottom and they systematically they were down in the bar area. Everything's fine. They go through the living room and the kitchen and the TV room. There's no need to go out into the sunroom and the hot tub room area because that door was closed. There's no way you could have got there. Come upstairs, check the bedrooms, the bathroom. And they're starting to look at me like I'm on some kind of drugs, right? Because there's no raccoon or sign of a raccoon. There's no door open. There's no window open in this fucking house, right? And I said, the only place to go now is up up into the vault and in my office area. So as soon as we start going up the next flight of stairs into the vault, then I look to the right and now I see it. There's a hatch door about three feet square that leads to the attic space that is over the top of my bedrooms. That door is standing wide open. What I was hearing what what. Was this fucking giant raccoon drop kicking that door until finally he caused it to open? Wow. Now down is the the vault is about 50 feet long and it's dark. I turn the lights on and when we're going down in the cops, they have the flashlights and as we go come through the door into the office area and they shine the flashlight over to the left. This fucking raccoon is sitting on an antique end table right next to my couch, right next to the front windows when the flashlight hits him, he jumps up and climbs up my curtains and then leaps off over the couch and starts running around the room. And one of the cops who had said, well, I'm a raccoon hunter from way back. And you know, I'm he wasn't really impressed by the fact that I told him this was the biggest raccoon in all of recorded history. Guess what that cop said? What did he say? That's the biggest raccoon I've ever seen. So while they're chasing this fucking thing around the room and I'm trying to find the light switch I run over and I fling the sliding glass door to my deck, the second story or third story deck, actually, I should say, out, I fling the sliding glass door open. And if they can chase him out on the deck, he'll be trapped out there, right? Because there's a railing around and it's quite a ways off that. Well, I didn't realize that raccoons were so fucking acrobatic. They chased him out. He ran right out on the deck right up on the railing and jumped off into the goddamn inky blackness of night and like he was committing suicide. But we never found a body. So I assume that these raccoons are just athletic is all fuck. And now where they scared him, he has left a trail of raccoon shit. He shit on my antique end table. He shit on some of the boxes that hadn't unpacked yet. He shit on my carpet. He just dribbled a line of shit all the way out the door. So at least I was vindicated in that there was a raccoon in my house. We don't know if he was rabid because we weren't able to contain him. He went off into the night to terrorize other innocent people. And those four cop cars set down to bottom of my driveway for the better part of a half an hour, I'm sure radioing all over the, you know, Kentucky and southern Indiana area about the dangerous raccoon call that they had just had just had. And so the bottom line is I got a deadbolt and I put he had pride loose the add the screen on my attic exhaust fan that was supposed to keep thing and somehow had climbed in that way. But I put a deadbolt on my attic hatch door. So if anybody breaks into my fucking attic, they cannot get into the house anymore. There's a deadbolt on it. And that's the raccoon story. Did the police know you already? Yeah, they knew the fuck I was. You know, I'm just wondering when they get a call at three in the morning that Jim Cornette's having an issue at the house with a raccoon. Did they all just go, I got to see this. Let's all go. I well, I mean, they didn't come out and admit that to me, but I think that's pretty much what happened because and there was two cops in each car. So you have eight cars. I had eight cops in my house at three o'clock in the morning trying to fucking chase the wild raccoon out because they, you know, I mean, there's always, you know, either that or I'm on the news, you know, a couple of years ago, fighting the housing development across the street or the subdivision, whatever they call them. Or, you know, they get called to the scene where I've got the cab driver that ran into Stacy's car. I'm nose and nose with him, got him bent back over his fucking trunk or what. And there's they're familiar. They're familiar. Of course, Jim Rock auto dot com has a lot of hot deals and has a lot of hot news and a hot events happening in and around the world, the professional wrestling. Fire. Who? Who? Fire. I love that. You remember that album cover, too, with the hot girl with the house, the best thing about them around her? The hose around the hoe? The best thing about the Ohio players with those album covers. Yes. And what you remember, honey, too, wasn't it with sweet sticky thing? She was pouring honey all over her memory glands. But anyway, there's been hot news, huh? Sizzling hot. All right, let me scorch it. I know it's I know it's your. But. I saw this right before I left town and I couldn't. I decided to just wait. I didn't retweet it. I didn't comment on it because I decided to just wait until I could break this happenstance down piece by piece. Apparently one of our old friends, we haven't talked about him a lot because nobody's seen him in months. Old Jelly Nutella is waddled back from obscurity. Apparently sometime back, I forget, was it six months, eight months, nine months, however long it's been, we've been free of his presence on a W. Television because apparently Tony Khan got buyer's remorse fairly quickly. He thought he was getting the. Indy, Rific standout that he was apparently sold and he was sold to Billy Goods and what he got was a parking lot of tenants. So since Tony doesn't really have the balls to do anything about his talent mistakes, he just lets their contracts run out and doesn't book them and sometimes doesn't call them or text them either. And apparently that's when jelly's been floating around wherever jelly goes, but he's back and he wanted apparently to make some headlines and he's on some clown show. I've seen the clip at everybody tweeted it and everybody's been emailing. He's on some garbage show somewhere in a brick holding cell in front of what looked like about 40 something people and he's wrestling some clown. And folks, if Brian, you're going to have to tell the people that this is not a bit because they're going to think, oh, now why is he winding this guy up like that? This didn't happen. So please, after I describe it, confirm for the people that I have described this correctly. Jelly figures, the big finish of this match is going to be a flaming super kick. So what he does is he sits down in the ring and pours lighter fluid or gasoline or some flammable or inflammable, whichever one that applies substance to his own foot, his own boot and proceeds to set himself on fucking fire. And super kicks this idiot who actually agreed to stand there and take that. And then realizes he's got no plan to put himself out. I'm not talking about a bad plan. I'm talking about no plan. I'm talking about a bad plan. I'm talking about a bad plan. I'm talking about a bad plan. I'm not talking about a bad plan. I'm talking about no plan. His foot is continuing to burn and be on fire. And he sits down. Everybody doesn't sit there. It wasn't that fucking casual and lackadaisical. He drops down on his ass and he's patting the foot and the foot is catching the mat on fire and flames are now coming from the fucking mat. And the referee grabs a bottle of literally a 16 ounce plastic bottle of drinking water and is poured and then people start throwing more bottles of water into the ring and people start coming and uncorking them and trying to pay any jelly is screaming. I guess whatever you scream when you're on fucking fire. And nobody had a fire extinguisher. That's what I'm talking about. There was not a bad plan. There was no plan. He forgot that after he hit the super kick, his foot would still be on fucking fire. And he turned into Richard Pryor only it was his foot instead of his fucking face. What was the finish of that match? Brian, did anybody ever win the clip cut off? Did I describe that correctly? You did. And I'm not sure if that was the finish. I guess the other opponent won via fire forfeit. I'm not exactly sure. One via third degree. What? Yeah, the winner via third degree burns. Tits McGee over here, ladies and gentlemen. Can we please get a rag and a dustpan so we can stop up what's left of jelly? I missed the days when before you had endless tables and chairs under the ring. There was a fire extinguisher. You know, actually, that's the thing in a lot of places. And we always carried one in Smoky Mountain. I think we had one in OVW. But yes, in a lot of places, you would have a fire extinguisher under or around the ring are accessible when people didn't set themselves on fucking fire. And forget that they would have to find a way to put themselves out. That was just in case it accidentally happened. So I guess he achieved because we've established before that jelly is the kind of guy he enjoys the attention of people laughing at him and calling him a clueless putz and a fat, dumpy piece of shit and a fucking, you know, brown and serve roll covered in pubic hair and all the other things he wants to be noted for doing stupid things because then people are noting him. I'm sure his family is proud. But so he he wormed his way back into the news by setting himself on fucking fire. In front of 42 people for no money. It a goddamn cinder block building. We just wanted to keep everybody up on on where the old AEW favorites are. Where are they now? You know, clearly, this is another one of those booking mistakes from Tony Khan. He should have found a way to retain this guy. Well, if he would have set him on fire, that would have been the first match of jellies that I would have liked on his television. Maybe they could have used them in the buildup to Cody's match and had Brandy set him on fire and then had Brandy set the table and Cody on fire during the match to build to it. But this, you know, Cody set himself on fire by accident. Oh, OK, fine. Then what if Jericho instead of lighting the air above Eddie Kingston's head on fire, jelly to tell his foot on fire would have been a great way to build to. But see, that was a proper fireball. If he'd had good aim, it would have been safe and effective and good for you and looked good and all that stuff. He just, you know, but this was real fire with real flammable liquid that not only I don't know whether he'll be wearing that boot again or not. Old jelly and it's a special problem for him since both of his feet are like fucking different sizes. But it also set the mat on fire. So the mat, the the guys lost that mat. And unless he just wants to put it out there with burn marks on it, maybe he could charge the the marks, two dollars a piece to take pictures of it with, you know, here's where jelly set himself on fire. I'm standing on it. Oh, come on, you can take advantage of this. He could be the club foot Nutella. Hey, that would be if if if Dustin, when he was gold dust, was seriously thinking about getting breast implants to shock everybody, then I'm sure for his art, for his career, because he loves pro wrestling so much, jelly will be willing to get his foot amputated. And then he could come and he could that if he had done this 35 years ago, he could have been the one legged wrestler that could play Long John Silver that Jim Hurd was looking for at TBS foot Von Erich. And here's Kerry's second cousin. Don't be Von Erich. You thought Chris looked like shit. Here's the other cousin. Boy. Waldo's other son. Waldo's son, he had with a motel maid in Buffalo. A few days ago on my program, the highest rated program, the Jim Cornette experience, when you said something and I didn't fully grasp what you said. And so I did some research. I checked it out. And now not only do I know, but can't get out of my fucking head. Hocus Pocus by focus. I don't remember saying anything about that song at all. What? You're the one who. You're the only human being I've talked to in the last three days. Why did I go to YouTube and look up Hocus Pocus by focus on the Midnight Special so I could see the clip that you were talking about when we were discussing Don Kirstner's rock concert at the Midnight Special or have it came up. I didn't mention. I did not mention Hocus Pocus by focus once. What? Not only did I not mention it on the show. I don't think I've ever mentioned it ever, ever. Like in the history of me. I would never. No, no, no, no, no, you can't do this. What? Who else have I spoken to that would have mentioned that song? I mentioned we talked about Mark Bolin. We talked about T-Rex. I mentioned the old gray whistle test. We talked about rock concert versus the Midnight Special. No, because that clip was last week. That was last week on something made you on the experience. Talk about this goddamn song. And I had heard the song, the name Hocus Pocus by focus. I had seen that written down, but I didn't know what song sounded like. And I'd heard that song a hundred thousand times, but I never knew what it was called. And once I watched this video, were you told me? I did not. I absolutely did. Who else have I spoken to that would that would alerted me to an old clip from the Midnight Special of this band that I've never even thought of in a fucking hundred thousand years playing this. And then they play they had a like a seven minute song. They had to play in four minutes and they did it double time. And the guy did it. Almost went out of his fucking mind. And they gave him a standing ovation on the Midnight Special. I told you, I like punk rock and somehow that led you down this road. I don't understand you. You somehow mentioned this song. No, I double dog. I double dog there. Somebody Jay Sharknado, Kippelman. What's he doing these days? Is he got a life? Somebody has a lot of what are you saying over there? Well, who says he got then? Somebody listed the last show and I'm telling you, you are the one who told me about this song. And you deny that. I not only do I deny it, I don't even I know the name of the song and the name of the band. I can't hear the song in my own head as we're talking about. I don't know what the song sounds like. I'm sure I heard it. I haven't talked to anybody else. Norma Duly and the no. He wouldn't have mentioned Hocus Pocus by focus and I've I spoke to him briefly. But the subject didn't come up. And actually, that was before we did the last recording that we did. Was it listener feedback to the talk about the Midnight Special? I because you have. Well, I wouldn't care about listener feedback. It was you telling me that this song was so fucking great in some fashion. If someone could find any evidence in any episode ever. Of any podcast I've never been on a few days ago. And now you've got me questioning myself. I haven't talked to anybody else. What I haven't had time. What else have you heard me say? Yeah, this. See, I thought we were going to have a good discussion there. And you just. I just. Now, wait a minute. What day is this? All right, let me think. I didn't talk to anybody yesterday. I didn't talk to anybody day before yesterday. I was too busy. Do you talk music with the Monroe brothers were here over the weekend, but I didn't talk music with them. I think somebody's going to find evidence that you've just you retired that day and you just don't remember what you've been talking about. Well, everybody should look up, Hocus Pocus by Focus on the Midnight Special on YouTube. It's the god damnedest thing you've ever seen in your life. You ever seen Redbone on Midnight Special when they do. Go and get your love, motherfucker. But it has the whole war dance at the beginning of it. Yes, because the Redbone was the it was the only band comprised entirely of Native Americans to have a top 40 hit. That's right. Well, I was either agree or disagree. What the fuck? I agree. Already you're acting like I've got you're looking at me across the interwaves here, like I've got smoking turds hanging out of my mouth because I've accused you. How else? Who else would have talked to me about this song but you? That's the other big mystery. Where did you hear this and who are you talking to? We had a discussion. I have never, ever, ever mentioned that band or that song in a discussion. I don't even know what the song is. I know the name of the song, but I don't know the song in my head. I can't hear it. You know what song's been stuck in my head because I caught a Ed Sullivan replay like two weeks ago, Grayson in the Grass by the Friends of Distinction. Yes, they were very friendly friends. But then, you know, who did an amazing version of that in the, I would say, well, mid 70s probably. Grayson in the Grass by the Friends of Distinction was what? Late 60s. Yeah, like 68, 69. 68. Somewhere around the mid 70s, Herb Albert and Hugh Masekela did an incredible horn centric version of Grayson in the Grass. Baby, can you dig it? She can dig it. We can dig it. They can dig it. See, I've done saying like, focus, focus by focus. It is the greatest scat song that ever made the charts. The woman and one of the women in the band, one of the band, one of the singers was Jessica Cleave. She was later with George Clinton. I don't know if it was in Parliament or Funkadelic or P Funk all combined, but she went from grazing in the grass to a lot of grass, I'm assuming. With George Clinton. You know, you could have been Parliament, could have been Funkadelic, could have been P Funk, could have, it was somewhere around the mothership. That's right. There you go. Something else I saw on YouTube since you won't own up to the. If someone finds me saying if someone, the first person to get in touch and say they have it with an actual example, you win a prize of some sort. I'm not going to be given away any prizes. Who are you, Brian? Last thousand now you get a prize of some sort. I don't know what it will be. It could be a book. It could be just any old thing you want to throw out. I got an extra Eisenhower book recently. I can give that an extra one. An extra one. That'd be one more than I have. Besides the interstate highway. What did he do as a president that we should be remembering? He gave maybe the most. I wouldn't say consequential, but maybe the greatest leaving office speech that in history now you look back and like, wow, he really saw where things were going, where he warned everyone about the military industrial complex. You know, you mentioned. The plumber, he's is he still hurt now or hurt again or. Been locked up, taken away, tied up and held for ransom. What is what's his status? Did you see the I haven't read it yet, but a lot of people were posting quotes from it in the Cult of Cornet Facebook group and on Twitter. Does it article? Here, I have it here from your good friends, Jim, at the messenger. Don't shoot the messenger. AEW's John Moxley calls for major industry change after suffering concussion in the ring. Exclusive Moxley was injured during a match on AEW Dynamite last month, which sent him to quote, fucking outer space for 10 minutes. And now he's proposing an idea how to better protect wrestlers. And this is by Daniel trainer. You know what? I got the first idea. If you are a wrestler that's been knocked into fucking outer space, don't go 10 more minutes. Here's the question before we read any of this. Or Moxley's groundbreaking suggestions going to be the things that anyone would say who wasn't already doing this. Is he just like now that he got knocked in the head, he's like, wow, I just realized what everyone else has been saying about how stupid everything we do is. Well, of course, that's what it is. But also, if he wanted to make industry wide change, he was probably in the place that he may have been able to do it. The one that leads the industry, but he couldn't hack it there. And they didn't he didn't like it. So he went to play with his friends and now he ain't going to change shit because none of these guys are going to do anything that they don't want to do. If I could make this time machine work backwards, I wish I could be in the room from Moxley pitching to Heyman and Brock Lesnar what he wanted to do. I would pay anything to be in the room to hear that conversation. But here's the article once again by Daniel trainer, the messenger. I don't know if he's the messenger or just writes for the messenger. John Moxley was standing in front of more than 10,000 wrestling fans inside New York's Arthur Ashe Stadium. But he had absolutely no idea where he was. During Moxley's AEW International Championship defense against Ray Phoenix at AEW Dynamite Grand Slam on September 20th, Moxley suffered a mild concussion at the start of their match. Moxley exclusively told the messenger the concussion happened. Quote, 30 seconds in. And quote, which ultimately sent him to, quote, fucking out of space for like 10 minutes. I just kept getting progressively more lost. I couldn't figure out where the fuck I was. Then I had this moment of clarity. Oh, I'm fucked up. I got to get the fuck out of here. So an in-ring audible was called to end the match early and give the title. Small package, you fucking moron. Not pile driver. Package the guy. Just small package the fucking you're supposed to win. You're hurt. Here are your options. Small package the fucking guy one, two, three. And the doctor comes in or the other guy picks you up over his fucking shoulder and drops you on your head again. Twice. Which one should you pick? I. It is funny. I mean, you said just roll him up. He gave him a pile driver that gave him a second. Sunset for small package. Sunset flip. Good God. I've seen a motherfucker win a match that had a broken leg when he was supposed to win. I don't. All right. Doc, if I ever get a concussion, what should I definitely not do if I'm not able to communicate or no one picks up on it? Just definitely don't do a pile driver, let alone two. Back to back. So an in ring audible was called to end the match early and give the title to Phoenix. Moxley returned to action on AEW collision last week, but even being out of action a month was difficult for him. I'm a very physical person. I like wrestling for the sake of wrestling. I like to do shit with my body. So sitting still and being injured is always very challenging. Now fully in the. I can't. I can't. I can't believe they put up with him up there as long as they did. Now if he was talking like that around normal adult people in the business, I can't. I don't know how the fuck somebody didn't fucking go into business for themselves. Just throw him out in the parking lot. Go ahead. Now fully in the clear. Moxley said the industry needs to adopt better safeguards to protect wrestlers in the ring. In pro wrestling, it's a really touchy subject. Moxley said, but acknowledged bluntly, somebody's got to fucking bring it up. Pro wrestling is such a strange thing. In football, if a guy goes down and doesn't go back to the huddle, you know he's fucked up. In pro wrestling, a lot of times it's hard to tell what's real and what's fake. Not when you're in the ring. Moving forward, Moxley has a vision for a new system that he thinks might work. Maybe a really experienced wrestler and a really experienced doctor who are trained to see signs of that shit are watching it on a separate feed. Even if they have a doctor close to ringside, what if the guy fucking spills outside the ring? He doesn't see that. As Moxley articulates, both these... He does? Is that what you call that? Articulating? As Moxley articulates, these two hypothetical individuals would have no prior knowledge of what they were about to see. The doctor and the wrestler are completely untethered to the creative portion of it. Oh good lord. They have no idea nor any interest in what the story is. Who wins? Who loses? How long is it supposed to go? What point is he making so because they don't know what the guy's finish is, that means that they'll be able to better identify it when some motherfucker bashes another fucker's brains in? What? That anybody hasn't seen almost every fucking time these people are injured, that they're injured, Moxley, when he got fucking landed on by Felix the first time with the flip dive, got up and his legs were rubber and he went back down. And everybody could tell there the referees are useless and feckless and dickless. And the fucking Felix comes from Luchador City where they probably land on each other 15 times a night and concuss each other. Nobody even knows. Didn't it happen to Danielson? Nobody knew what the fuck was going on there. Didn't it happen to Danielson once in WWE who was wrestling match on Raw and they thought he was concussed and I think he was and like Triple H actually came out to stop the match? Yes, I believe he did. And he was angry about it. He wanted to keep wrestling and they're like, no, we're gonna stop this. There's none of that in AEW. But here's the thing. Again, nobody knew what the viewers, the fans, the people watching television, the people in the arena, nobody knew what the finish was. They figured Moxley was going to keep the belt because why would you switch it? But nobody knew how long it was supposed to go and nobody knew what the finish was. And nobody knew what Not even me. But, oh, exactly as it comes to find out. But they didn't, when I say they didn't know what the finish was, they didn't know, okay, three drop kicks to hip toss is a body slam, whatever the fuck. So if Moxley got his bell rung and couldn't hardly get up, then at the start, then if he was feeling well enough to continue, he should have known at that point, let's not do this 15 minute match. This fucking guy just landed on my head and fucked me up. And we're going to do whatever the fuck in a small package. And then in the locker room, I'll tell him, well, you landed on my fucking head and I didn't know what I was doing. So we just got out of it. Or he should have told the referee because the referee's wired up to the goddamn back. He can hear Tony in the back at the gorilla position. And if Tony said, scratch your head if Moxley's okay and the referee didn't scratch his head or reverse scratch your head if Moxley's hurt, he scratches his head. Then Tony should have said, then tell him to fucking take it home. There's all kinds of things that could have gone on before it got to the point, including as we mentioned when we talked about the match that Moxley had just hit Felix with two or three big moves and covered him and got two counts. And then he just decides, wait a minute, I can't go on any longer. Beat me. What the no. Has anybody got any sense and experience at the same time in his situation? The answer we found out was no, none whatsoever. I got the Blackpool Combat Club are the biggest, baddest team. They're fucking leader of fled. And then you can't hit any of them in the face or they're out of action for months at a time. Let me finish off this article here. All right, go. Yeah, please finish it off. Once again, from the messenger, watch out Justin Barrasso looks like someone's moving in on your territory. Why does Moxley think a wrestler needs to be watching alongside the doctor? You might ask. He's got that answer, too. If a guy fucking spins around or something and the doctor goes, is he okay? The wrestler could tell him that's just a pro wrestling thing. Don't worry. Moxley's proposed system would make things as cut and dry as possible, no matter what it means for the overall competition. As soon as the doctor sees a sign of somebody being concussed, he just fucking hits the red button. Oh, I did that wrong. He just hits the fucking red button. Boom. This is over. No matter how much time is left, no matter if it's on live TV, it's just over. Why don't they give him a gong? And you figure it out from there. And you figure it out from there. You know what, Moxley's like the fucking Chick Donovan called a fucking spot one time with a guy. As he shot the guy off, he said, one tackle, drop down, you finish it. And the guys run into the ropes, go, what? What? That's the same. Yeah. And you figure it out from there. Sure. Somebody's going to need to because you can't. You fucking pea brain moron. Oh my God. Wait, we just have received word from Tony Khan. The red button has been pushed. Match is over. The match is over. Red button. The winner via red button. A cone comes down over the rig and then the fog is shot into it as a decontamination. This guy's a simpleton. He's a simpleton and he's got brain damage. You can tell. His brain has been damaged for the things he likes, the things he does, the things he says, whatever. But no, you don't need a doctor and a wrestler and a red button and a separate fucking feed. And they know nothing about the booking. They can't know anything about what's going to happen. And well, then in that case, how the fuck do they, if they know what the finish is when a guy gets dropped on his head and is laying there selling, they'll, well, he's supposed to. Fucking morons, for that matter. But besides that, I've been in the business for fucking 40 years. And every time that I can ever remember being on a show or being doing commentary or being in a locker room, when somebody ever got fucking a concussion, they pretty much knew about it because the guy that got dropped on his head was, hey, grab a hold. I'm fucking hurt. One time Bobby Fulton, I remember this, the Fantastix against Ron Simmons and Butch Reed. Bobby got dropped or in some way landed on his head and finished the match, but then came in the locker room and didn't remember it. And then was freaking out because he couldn't remember finishing the match. But the, the, everybody around the ring has a part to play in it without putting extra people out there. The referee, both guys working with each other. You can see on the monitor, if somebody, if something really looked bad, that's why the X sign from the referees came into being and then everybody got smart to it. And then they started working it to work the people, but the referee would tell the, the backstage gorilla position crew. Yes, he's really fucked up and they would send instructions to the referee about how to immediately get out of it. It's not all what we'll think about it and get back to you. It, I just, I have a, well, I have an update here, an article from Sports Illustrated just came up, SI.com by Justin Barrasso. I bleed in the sunlight. John Moxley proposes new system to help with blood and wrestling. It's come to my attention. That bleeding is wrong. It certainly has come to his attention. I've got to keep caution. So now I have ideas how to fix the whole business. In other words, no, just have some people with some experience and some common sense and are looking for things. And to be honest again, I am going to say that I did five, six years and I did 301 hour OVW television programs that we aired here in Louisville over a six year period. And that was a wrestling school with the most inexperienced top to bottom crew that, that you would pretty much find doing anything on any television level anywhere. And I know we had concussions and training. I don't remember a concussion ever happening on the television program. And I don't remember ever having to stop one of the matches because anybody was hurt for real. Imagine that. And if you go back to Smoky Mountain Wrestling where I did 201 hour television episodes of that. Can you remember you've seen most of those? Was anybody ever hurt for real to where we had to stop the match or switch up what the fuck was going on? Just the fact that we're having to think this hard. I mean, indicates it was rare. Ken Amora kind of got hurt, but he asked for it. Well, yeah, that was and he did it to himself. So I'm talking about, you know, an accidental goddamn injury that was unforeseen and, you know, Jericho breaking his arm, but no one was there. And I was before he was practicing in the ring in an empty building and doing a flip that he didn't need to do that night. Again, a lot of this comes down to style. And I'm not saying everyone has to wrestle a big John stud. I don't want that. I like Bret Hart. Bret Hart was rarely ever injured for the majority of his career. And he wrestled good matches, physical matches. But look what's happening. It's wrestling smart. It's wrestling. It's not wrestling hard or soft. It's wrestling smart. Jerry Lawler had some of the most exciting matches over a 15 year period that was going on in wrestling and his had never had a major knee surgery. Never had a he had various injuries from taking some of those bumps, but never anything. Spinal neck, broke his leg, playing fucking football. He didn't even hurt in wrestling, hurt in football. Yeah, never wore knee pads till he was past 40 and took some and was run over by cars. For those of you who were young quite literally, go Google Jerry Lawler hit by a car and you can see Eddie Gilbert run over him on live television in 1990. Yes. And as we've told, we'll finish the story and we'll move on. The so many people called the Memphis police to say they'd just seen a vehicular homicide on live television that cops came to channel five and made Lawler go back out on the TV before the end of the show to say that he was alive and killed the angle. But anyway, again, we will talk about the Tony Khan media scrum audio both before and after the pay-per-view later on in the show. But Jim, let's have a quick little aside before we get to another one of the big topics here. News breaking as we are recording. What website is this? Inside the ropes reporting, Kota Ibushi rushed to hospital following double ankle injury. I've never heard of that before. A double angle. I thought what they did two angles with even one day. Kota. Wait a minute. Now come on now. There's something that this is linked because something happened with with Kenny's bowels and intestines. And now you're telling me that fucking Ibushi has bad ankles. Do you think that they got mad at each other and Ibushi broke both of his feet off and Kenny's ass? Now, I don't think it's that because Kota Ibushi was wrestling. Apparently he reportedly injured both of his ankles while headlining a pro wrestling Noah event. How do you hurt both ankles? So did he jump off the fucking roof or something? Japanese sports outlet Sports Ho Chi reports that early in his main event match with Marifuji at pro wrestling Noah's the year the new year 2024. The year the year the new year 2024. Did somebody eat Ibushi? Ibushi suffered an injury to both his ankles. He continued to wrestle, however, eventually beating Marifuji. What was he doing? In over 33 minutes. He was hopping on his fucking head or fucking walking on his hands? Have you broken both your fucking ankles? How can you continue the match? For 33 minutes. Oh good lord. He was crawling on his belly like a reptile. Ibushi is reported to have walked to the backstage area under his own power, but is said to have been in so much severe pain that he could not provide any backstage comments. Shortly after he called himself an ambulance and was taken to the hospital in Tokyo, he called himself and they wouldn't even get on the phone for him. He said, Oh God, I'm going to go to the hospital. Here, here's your fucking phone. They are waiting. God damn sloppy shop. Is that over there? They are awaiting diagnosis from the hospital. Tony Khan recently announced that they signed Kota Ibushi, who looked horrible in every appearance he's had an AEW in the last year. And depending on how this story goes, may not be wrestling anytime soon. What a disaster. Everyone they sign, everyone they sign goes down. But hold on now, hold on now. Okay, he hurt himself somehow. It's not mentioned in the article. He hurt both ankles at the same time. Apparently, one would think that would be a real pisser as Captain Lou would say to hurt your first ankle and then your second ankle in the same match at different times. But nevertheless, he guts it out, kudos to him, and finishes the match so I don't think they can be broken. But then he's in such severe pain that he wants to go to the hospital. Why did he walk to the back under his own power? After you'd finished the match, when he's okay, I can sell now. It's good for the business, like they used to say when you'd get busted open hard way. It's good for the business, carry me out of here. Hall me out of this motherfucker. But he walks to the back and then he sits down and he says, you know, I can't do that interview. Instead, hand me my phone. I'm calling my own ambulance. What the fuck is going on with these people? Jim, I've sent you an email with a link that has a few different videos in it to what apparently is Kota Ibushi possibly getting hurt in a match and a couple of the other moments from the match or after the match where he couldn't even stand up. Now that you've rambled on, I've gotten the link. I'm clicking on said link, Kota Ibushi, taking to hospital. Oh, here we go. It's still popping up. See, I'm a slow loader because I got the spectrum, you know, the spectrum cable and the internet and it's slower than molasses in January is Mama Cornette. You say, okay, is the first one is the one that I should watch, right? The first one, it appears to be maybe where he got hurt. Well, I'm going to, I'm going to click on, on that son of a bitch right now and see what he's going to do that he could potentially be damaged. A moonsault off the second turnbuckle onto the guy on the floor and he lands right on his feet and grabs his, as I'm turning myself, grabs his right ankle and then the clip cuts out. So yeah, that definitely looked like you could damage yourself on that. Again, he just runs down the apron and jumps to the, almost gets to the second turnbuckle, then makes it and then does the moonsault lands on the floor on his feet and grabs his right ankle. Well, that was the first video. The second one appears to show the finish. Well, now he should be limping considerably at this point, but he's just collapsed on this guy. He's laid down on a bed and pinned the guy. I've never seen anything like that. I've dropped an elbow on my fucking mattress harder, Nat laying down after a hard day. Whatever he'd done to the guy, he just more or less missionary position body pressed him and fucking. Well, the third video is the post-match and this will tie everything together. Okay. And apparently it's the guy that tweeted this as I cannot believe my eyes, a disaster. Okay. And he's trying to walk and he's limping and he falls on his ass. And the other guy whose hand he was raising just fucking let's go of his hand and turns off and walks away from him and kneels down selling, ignoring the fact that this motherfucker actually just probably collapsed on purpose or not on purpose, but collapsed for real. Well, Kota Abushi begins 2024. The way he worked the entirety of 2023. This does not look good. And we'll see what happens. That's all. But before he hurt himself, he was, was doing the deal where he runs down and jumps to the second turnbuckle and he didn't make that the first try and then got up on it. Well, that's the thing he didn't even make. Like you said, the first time he jumped to the second turnbuckle, he missed it. I've never seen him do that before. And then he does the deal and the guy, you know, whoever this other fella is, he tried to catch him, but Marufuji. Well, he tried to catch him, but Abushi went kind of over his shoulder and bam and landed on his feet, which apparently he doesn't need to be doing that. Well, there you go. So Tony can, should Tony's father at this point suggest that he open a, an offshoot of AEW as like a hospital, medical center, physical rehab, surgery, bone transplant, fucking, you know, organ black market operation? It seems like there'd be more money in treating the injured AEW wrestlers than there is in paying them while they're healthy to sell tickets. Even if you were a fan of Kota Abushi's, based on what you've seen from him in the last year, year and a half, whatever it is, you can't tell me there's anything there that would make you want to sign into a contract and give him more money. Despite whatever you think of his work from before, since he's come back and before this ankle injury, apparently he was awful. Even his own fans said that and Tony gave him a contract. And you know, and that's, there are people out there, the Corned haters, who will say, wow, Corned would put the belts on the Rock and Roll Express or some fucking blah, blah, blah. If the Midnight Express, we'd know. No, if the Midnight Express present day right here, right now, we're all here. I would not book them to wrestle on a national television program. Because at some point, age catches up with everybody. If Kota Abushi was a legend in a territory or even in this country, Steve Austin can walk in a fucking ring and take a shit. And people would still pay to see it, but he doesn't need the money to have to do that. But he could and they could make money off of him doing it. If he would agree to it and many legends have of, but, but no, you, he's not a person that is going to draw you money based on what he can do now versus what he could do in the past. And what's the cutoff then? Is it 40 years older? Is it 60 years older? Whatever. The territory guys learn to work around their limitations because they were over his personalities. Abushi has none. Most of these guys have none. And that's why when they're 32 and they're falling on their ass because they can't fucking walk because they've blown their ankles in the same match, whatever, they can't work around that because that's the only thing they do. Personalities can work around anything. God damn. Think of the guys that, Lawler, until last year had had a match every year since 1970. Because he knows what he can do and what he can't do. And he knows what sell people. And all the old territory guys depended on that because sometimes they owned the territory. Sometimes they owned part of it or they just wanted to stay in the business. You know, Gene Kaniski was fucking 60 and still, you know, doing what he wanted to do because he was part of owner and he knew how to fucking stretch, whatever. These guys, they can't do that because they've set the standard where that's one of those guys that does all that insane shit. And then when it catches up to them and they can't do it anymore, you can't pay them like, it's like you're paying a fucking singer who's just had his goddamn voice box removed. What the fuck are you there for then? Nobody's going to pay just to look at you. So that's, Tony is finding out the problem with this, putting this much reliance on this kind of chaotic wrestling and signing every darling, even if it's a darling that took him 10 or 15 years to fucking be able to sign. The action figures wear out. There are a couple things here that a lot of listeners have been sending in both having to deal with Rick Flair. I don't know how much of this you've seen. I got up this morning and I've been out twice before we started recording, but in the middle of that I saw that he's had an issue with pizza people. That's pretty much what I know so far. Well, Jim, yesterday as we are recording May 5th, 2024, 4.43 PM, Rick Flair tweeted out every word beginning with a capitalization. Is that something you have to do on purpose to make it do that or is that something that pops up accidentally? Because it doesn't make sense that you would do that on purpose. That is absolutely not the default. You have to choose that. See, I don't know how to text, but I wouldn't text like that. Why is that done? Does that have some meaning with the young folks? I'm not sure why it's done. And well, maybe this will explain some of it. Let's go to this tweet here from Rick Flair at Rick Flair, NatRboy on Twitter. I spent 1500 hours at Pizanos. Wow. What is it? Pizza with goddamn filet mignon topping? How much pizza? Oh, but I eat a lot of pizza. How do you spend 1500 hours at the pizza place? That's a shitload of pizza. I don't know if me, Joey Chestnut, and fucking... you both could, all three of us could eat that much pizza. I spent 1500 hours at Pizanos to be disrespected more than I ever have in my entire life. Jesus Christ. After taking 20 pictures with customers and staff, I was asked to leave because of an issue I had. Hold on. Wait a minute. 20 people came up and said, please take your picture of this, please. And then they said, now please get the fuck out of here. What? What are you... I just find this so funny. I was asked to leave because of an issue I had with the kitchen manager taking too long in the bathroom. Wait, I'm taking too long in the bathroom. I was laughing and taking too long with his order, but taking too long in the... what? It's a one-hola over there at Pizanos? He couldn't get... because the kitchen manager? What was he fucking shooting up in the goddamn stall and he couldn't get in any bathroom? But hold on. There's another way to read that. I was asked to leave because of an issue I had with the kitchen manager taking too long in the bathroom. Maybe he left that a word or two. It's Twitter. Was Rick taking too long in the bathroom and the kitchen manager's like, yo, come on already. Get out of there. It seems like that the kitchen manager would have access to his own bathroom. He wouldn't have to go out there and clog it up where the customers couldn't get in. So are you... I don't know if you're correct there, but well then what? What's he... What's the kitchen manager coming to get the guy out of the bathroom for? Come... Come out of the closet. What... Why is that the kitchen manager's job? Wouldn't that be the matredee or do they have a matredee at Pizanos? So then Rick Flair was upset that the kitchen manager was taking too long in the bathroom. It sounds like it to me, but... It sounds preposterous, but it sounds... Let me finish this. Yeah. I would highly recommend that anyone who wants to enjoy a relaxing time in Gainesville and a nice restaurant to never visit this place. I would like to recommend that anyone who wants to take a relaxing dump in the Gainesville area, they'll rush you after you've been in there two minutes. They'll let me shove in toilet paper under the fucking stall door. So get the fuck out of here. Well Jim, we have an article... We've got a Rick Flair just can't... You can't take him anywhere. Even if he's spending all this money in a pizza place. By the way, that's just stupid money in a pizza place. I've always heard Rick Flair's loose with his money. Now I get it. He's just going crazy at Chuck E. Cheese. Just throw money. What is the goddamn most expensive pizza that you can buy? Is there a $50 fucking pizza? And that would be 10... 30 of them. What's your most expensive pizza? It's like 12 hours. I'll take 10,000 of them right now. Do you deliver? Do they have the capacity to make $1,500 worth of pizza in such a short period of time? But we have an article here, Jim. From the Gainesville Sun. This is a serious matter. From the Gainesville Sun by Alan Festo. Alan Festo. Pizzano's owner says, and there's a quote, evidence clear. After Rick Flair asked to leave Gainesville Restaurant, WWE legend and Hall of Famer Rick Flair created quite a stir on social media over the weekend. Okay, now I'd also wait for how much stir do you have to make to get in the newspaper over a fucking disagreement at a pizza place. The sad thing is, I'm pretty sure with all of these stories, it always starts off great. Hey, Rick Flair is here. He's awesome. He's taking pictures with everyone. I love this guy. Hey, who's knocking on the bathroom door? Get out of the bathroom! Woo! Out of the bathroom! All of a sudden, he's there trying to get him out of the bathroom? So what did they say in the newspaper? He bashed a Gainesville restaurant while in town to attend a University of Florida graduation ceremony. Flair, 75, and family members were dining at the Pizzano Stone Fired Pizza Restaurant, 1250 West University Avenue. Flair must have a big family by that, didn't know he was a Mormon. When the professional wrestler apparently was asked to leave. He advised his more than two million followers to avoid the restaurant on their next visit to Gainesville. They have the tweet here. Pizzano's co-owner Jerry Roberts, when reached Monday by the son, said the evidence was clear, but declined to offer an explanation as to why Flair was asked to leave the restaurant. The evidence of what was clear to who? He then sent a prepared statement via text message, and here's the statement. We have reviewed video of the incident that took place recently at our restaurant. It is clear our team worked in a professional manner to ensure the safety of guests and staff. What the f***? We have been here. We have been. What? We have been here. We have thanked our team for their professionalism. We are proud of how they responded to the situation using and displaying our team values. What was the situation? What are your values as applies to this situation? Robert says they have no intention on releasing the video. I don't even need to see the video. I just like some motherfucker to tell me what the f*** happened. Who was locked in the bathroom? Who wouldn't come out of the closet? How is it $1,500 worth of pizzas can be consumed by one family? And how did taking pictures and signing autographs go to you must leave the premises and never return? There's all kinds of story here that's being left out. There's something going on and I'm not exactly sure what. Again, $1,500 at a pizza place. I've never god damn made the news for being asked to leave a restaurant or establishment such as that. And one would think that I'm one of the more disagreeable people if you listen to the rumors and the casual conversation. But I don't make the news for these things. You don't make the news for these things. And by the way, no one wants to kick out the guy spending all the money. That's no restaurant's business model is like, hey, we're having a problem. Like we're too busy. We got to get rid of the guy spending the money over there. Leave the guy that's tips of servers on their tip and get rid of that guy that's throwing hundreds around. How can that go so far south so quickly? I wonder. And his family's there? And we need, you know what? Bar rescue, John Taffer needs to get in on this. He needs to follow Flare around the different bars and call it Flare's rescue from bars. And we'll get to this one hour television program. Wouldn't it be funny if it was Austin Idol's pizza place? Hey, I don't I think you could live there for a year and a half and not spend $1,500. Well, there's the Ric Flair story. There's a rumor about another part of the story, but it's unconfirmed as of this moment. Are we are we allowed to spread clearly labeled as such unconfirmed rumors? Well, Jim, there was another part of this story that's kind of unconfirmed. But if in any way true paints a very interesting picture of these proceedings, there's a tweet that was sent out. The name seems odd. Freddie Schnertz is the at at Freddie Schnertz. Fred Fredrish Von Schnertz is his name. What? Again, I don't know. People do. Well, how in the world do you expect a guy named Schnertz to be a liar? I'm the manager of Paisano's sister location off Archer. Mr. Flare was being drunk and disorderly. He wooed directly into a blind grandmother's face. He wooed directly into a blind grandmother's face. After being confronted, he picked up furniture and swung it menacingly. What? We love Rick, but he was boogered. He would into a blind grandmother's face. Maybe she wanted a picture. But how? How would that do her any good if she got a picture? How would she have known to ask? Maybe she said, I've never been able to see you. Can I at least feel your breath? Can you? Well, no wonder she probably snookered now. But can you imagine if you were some blind person and suddenly, without warning, Rick Flare wooed an inch from your face? Well, again, this may or may not have happened, but something happened to Paisano's that was so bad they won't release the video, but they're proud of their team for standing up for themselves. How can you dispute the word of Frederick von Schnickelgruber? Somebody's got to pry him out of the bathroom sooner or later. Well, maybe it was the kitchen manager. Where was the other? Where was the house manager? It was the kitchen. Yeah, where's the matriot? In a prestigious place like Paisano's? Where is the the... All the other people besides the kitchen manager that ought to be dragging somebody out of the bathroom. So we don't even know. See, that's the thing. Because it's un-wieldily worded. That's the thing. It's either Flare locked himself in the bathroom. And they couldn't get him out. Then it became an issue. Or the manager was in the bathroom too long and Flare was either waiting to use the bathroom or was so offended by this while sitting down that he got up and said, Hey, I spent $1,500 here not for you to use the shitter. Get out of there. I believe that more than anything because Flare's not going to lock himself in the bathroom because he's he's that would be away from the bar. He's not doing fucking heroin in there. He's fucking drinking. So why would he lock himself away from the bar? But why would the kitchen manager go in the only receptacle that's available to the fucking? And then why is the manager of the place in the official statement proud of his team and the way they handled something that could have been dangerous to the safety of themselves that Flare knocked over monitors screamed, you're a clown this place is a joke and I quit. And the people were scared for their lives. That's the only thing I can figure. You know what causes this whole thing, don't you, Brian? Vodka and cranberry sauce? Well, no, well, that could have a contributory juice. He's a sick man. He's it's a super duper jello shot, folks, especially around Thanksgiving. You're going to love the vodka and cranberry sauce. You know what, you had to go with paisanos and bring that back into my fucking eyes. No, no. There's a family in their real class causing an incident. And then you know, like, he didn't go easily. That's the problem. It wasn't like, sir, you have to leave. OK, fine. I'll just go tweet something. Yeah. No, no, no, no. But one would have thought somebody in his family could have maybe deescalated it before it got to that point. Yeah. I mean, they were all in town. They were all in town and there's a lot of pizza. Just a lot of pizza. Maybe it was a fight over the leftovers. Like, who's taking what? You could have six pies. And that's what I was starting to think. Have you ever seen a fifty dollar pizza? Is there a fifty dollar pizza? No, look, there are like gourmet restaurants in Manhattan where this is why I get that hundreds of dollars. But like that's like a single pie. And again, it's a gourmet restaurant. You'd really have to. It's not easy to just to get in there. At Paisana. I mean, again, if the average pie, let's just say it's New York prices. Well, hold on. We've got to Google Machine, don't we? Yeah. Well, hold on. You should still be recording. Hold on. Well, hold on. You know what? Turn the tape on and we'll put an extra. Oh, you know what? I never stopped the tape, so we still have all this. OK. Lookie here. God damn it. Brian, I know the show is over with, but how much these goddamn pizzas go at Paisa? Can you? I'm typing this in as P. I. I got it. Well, I got locations and hours, menu order. I get order from Paisanos. Yeah, University Avenue. I guess this would be the one. You could build your own pizza, cheese pizza, classic cheese or create your own pizza, starting at eight forty nine. The cauliflower crust pizza is fourteen forty nine. Well, now they're in a nice little strip mall. I see the picture of the place. They have hold on. They have entrees, appetizers, pizzas, calzone, specialty pasta, subs. The average menu. The average price appears to be eighteen ninety nine or less. Well, now also wait a minute. They instead of just pizza now they have. They have rigatoni a la vodka. Maybe that was a problem. Well, hold on. It's too much vodka and the rigatoni. They do have catering packages. Maybe Flair went crazy and was like, I'll package five, six, seven and eight. Woo. They're expensive. Two hundred dollars for one, hundred and fifty five for another. Well, how much is the two hundred dollars fucking by you? Because they had to got eight of those. Two hundred like two hundred dollars, for instance, would be package seven full blackened chicken pasta or how with house or Caesar salad and forty rolls. Forty rolls. Also for two hundred dollars, you can get a full chicken carbonara, a full house or Caesar salad and forty rolls. What is a full chicken? That means like you get the whole chicken, but you get forty rolls to eat with one fucking chicken. What is this? God damn. It says that for everything like package three, which is two oh nine. This one's expensive. Full lasagna, house or cheese, house or Caesar salad, forty rolls. The only one that's different actually is for one hundred and fifty five, the full chicken Parmesan served over spaghetti, full house or Caesar salad, twenty rolls. Oh, only twenty rolls. That's why it's less. Apparently they ought to call it carbzzanos. All right. That's why Fleurbach himself in the bathroom, he had the Jesus. His colon wasn't ready for all this. I'll show you how much pizza I could eat. You're rolling my colon. Yeah, that is Sicilian. All right, apparently they're open from 11 to 10 folks, 11 a.m. to 10 p.m. down there in Gainesville, Florida, Pizzanos. The bathroom's closed, though. It's a crime scene now. It's taped off. Wait a minute. Hold on here. It's like the tape says sanitized for your protection from the Gainesville sun. Oh, everything you need to know about the Gainesville restaurant that kicked out Ric Fleur. Oh, what's this? Yeah, well, he just tells the story. Apparently, the owner and his wife opened a small walk-up pizza spot in 2000. In 2009, they joined forces with other people to open Pizzanos. They added more people to the team and now they've got four locations. One up, one up. One's up in Ocala. They got the specialty stone-fired pizzas, calzone, sandwiches, wings, more. Oh, so this is actually just an article about the restaurant that booted Ric Fleur out. You think this is bad? The one in Ocala has Marty Funk banned for life. Oh, come on now. You mean to tell me she wouldn't come out of the bathroom either? Now there's an article here. Where are all these articles popping up from? This is Gainesville.com. Who is Ric Fleur, the person who got booted out of Pizzanos? And it again replicates all the stuff that we've written or that we've already talked about happening. Somebody on Twitter said, imagine you finally get a minute to use the bathroom at work and Ric Fleur starts cutting a promo outside the store. You finally get in the bathroom and all of a a sudden it's like someone's banging on the door. Who is it? It's the Nature Boy. Another one said, imagine having irritable bowel syndrome and Ric Fleur yelling at you. See again, the way it's written, it could be the other way. The guy was mad at Ric for spending too much time in the bathroom. See, I don't know. Apparently now the picture was posted of Fleur earlier that day with his wife, Wendy Kidder. Wendy Kidder. I've not heard that last name for her. Thought her name was Wendy Barlow. What happened was Margo Kidder died so she took her last name. Son of a gun, that must have been it. It's hers now. And they are dressed in blue and announced they were heading to Gainesville. Stylin and Profilen in Gator Blue as only we can look and then we'll be at Pizzanos to take a big dump. And then I'll put on the color whoever also talked to me. Woo! Oh, come on now. He's feeling mighty blue after Pizzanos. Wait, was he... Rewarded his kindness with scorn. Was Pizzanos before or after the game? That was probably after... Or the graduation, whatever it was. Game, graduation. It's a graduation. Drive by. Well, you wouldn't go and stuff yourself before an event like that. You'd go there and stuff yourself after an event. So this was the graduation party. Rick Fleur that kicked out of his own graduation party for one for one. Fairly. We're still developing items still coming in. Rick Fleur recently expressed his frustration that he was not asked to be a part of the Who Killed WCW docu-series. I don't know if anybody should ask to be a part of that. Yeah, I help kill it. Ah, no. Yeah, still no plans to release this security video unless... Why not? Again, Tony Khan thinks that it might draw some money. Why not? There's still a sponsor of the Rick Fleur Woo Energy drink, right? Well, Rick Fleur Woo Energy sponsors AEW Dynamite. Well, that's what I'm trying to say. So basically, they could use this video because they're connected. They're their sponsor is part of this. See, there's a way to own this and make it work. I mean, Rick Fleur should start a new series where he gets kicked out of different places every week. It just goes to a place and every week it starts off really well. Holy shit, it's Rick Fleur. How you doing, buddy? Nice to see you, sir. Hello, sir. That's the whole nice Rick Fleur act. And then like a few drinks hit, a few pizzas in. He just all of a sudden starts losing it. And next thing you know, he locks himself in the bathroom. At that point then, you know, we would download the DraftKings fantasy 6 app because at the start of the program, it's not obvious why he's going to get kicked out. But whoever is the first one to determine why by the end of the program, he will be kicked out and state that on DraftKings wins huge cash prizes. And the weird statement from like the place was like, it is clear what has happened. Nothing's clear. What happened? Well, I hit that Gainesville son, Pizzano's owner says evidence clear after Rick Fleur asked to leave. We worked in a professional manner to ensure the safety of guests and staff. Everybody was in danger. It sounds like there was a shooter on site. And what he had a goddamn apparently it was a hand grenade that was being used as a medallion around his neck and he threatened to pull the pin. I can't tell what it is. He's helicoptering something around his head. Oh, now come on. I don't know what it is. You could put somebody's eye out with a thing like that with the sharp point. All right. Are we still in the show? We ended the show. We ended the show and then we got the idea that we should go look up and see how much they charge for these fucking pizzas. Well, it's pizza night in America now. We'll wrap it up once. What's your show? I'll let you wrap it up once again. Okay. Speaking of shave. I'm going to try to shave. I guess not shave time. Just talk about some other things before we get to dynamite. God damn. What have you used to be such a learned, articulate individual? The podcast industry has broken you. This is the day that has broken me. This recording today is broken. But the good thing is I'm one that had to crawl on my hands and knees under the desk to unplug and replug the modem and the router or the motor and the routem or whichever the things are. You didn't have to do that. Well, Jim, however, good or bad your day or my day or the listener's day may be, there's a chance it may be better than the last few days for Ric Flair, the nature boy famous for his feuds with Harley Race, the Von Erics, Dusty Rhodes, and Paisanos. A story emerged the other day. A very smiling and laughing story emerged the other day because Ric Flair tweeted about it. Otherwise, no one would have known. He divined himself. Ric Flair announced that I think he had never been as disrespected before because he got into a fight with the manager about the bathroom. And I think he thought it would go the other way that people may be like, yeah, you can't treat Ric Flair like that. Not that everyone's first reaction would be like, all right, what did Rick do? And we made some guesses. I mean, it was a story that he wooed in a blind grandmother's face. Well, and that we haven't, we haven't gotten confirmation of that. And as well, I was disappointed because there's video now that surfaced. And from the manager's official statement, I thought we were going to see some furniture, some chairs being swung. There was talk of chairs being wielded in a menacing fashion. There was talk of thread. There wasn't any, at least in what we saw, there wasn't any chair swinging. There wasn't any face wound of blind people. But there was a, it wasn't even an animated tongue lashing because I got to be honest, folks, it appeared to the average lay person viewing it that Rick was gassed. He was pickled. He wasn't really yelling or screaming. He was barely articulating. But it wasn't security footage that we saw. It was somebody on the other side of the bar with a camera just shooting it. And it was Rick telling off the apparently the manager of the whole place. From what I heard, apparently now we can narrow it down that the kitchen manager is the one that was taken too long in the bathroom. Right. But that is not the man that he's yelling at here. This is he's yelling at the whole manager of the whole Wingding and place there. Right. Or the whole pie slinging place. Yeah. It's a pizza pie. Well, the pizza places have wings, so they could be Wingding and pie slinging. But the point is poor Rick tweeted, as you said, he'd never been so disrespected this place. He took his whole family. He took pictures. He signed autographs. He spent $1,500 and they kicked him out of the place. Come to find out they didn't kick him out. They just cut him off. And the reason why he spent $1,500 was because he gave the waitress a thousand dollar tip for apparently only to show the manager of the place. Well, fuck you. She's getting a thousand dollars and I'm going to call you a dipshit. And now because he brought attention to the incident, he's put out an apology that nobody would have known about this thing that he would have had to apologize if he hadn't mentioned it in the first place. And it explains a little better. I feel there was a logic lapse in that thing. I'm sorry. Go ahead. And this definitely explains a little bit of the economics behind the $1,500 spent at a pizza place. He still spent $500 apparently and gave out $1,000 originally. And we'll play some audio. We also know they have a liquor license now. There's no question about that. So yeah. Well, that is another one of the big parts that comes out in the video. The manager, Rick, went right to in the tweet that everyone saw that he was kicked out. They just cut him off. They didn't kick him out. They just said, you can't we can't serve you anymore. So that's a different story completely. I think it it it almost appeared he was on propofol. I think Michael Jackson's doctor would have cut him off. Well, let's see how this comes out. I'm not sure how it will work out on the show here because this is this is not professionally shot footage and the audio is somewhat sketchy. As a matter of fact, I'm going to tell you this now. Everybody that's interested is going to find this on the internet. And I don't know. Is this a TikTok thing that you get closed captioning? It's captioned at the bottom or is that something that the person had to do on their own or is that automatic? I think it probably was automated if I had the guess. Well, it sounds like it or it looked like it because like I said, Rick was not enunciating exactly clearly. And at one point, he's telling his waiter, you and I were good at his waitress, you and I were good. And he said that he points at the manager and he says, and along comes dipshit. But the closed captioning said, and along comes the Egyptian. And then people were commenting that he was making racist remarks. He's an anti-dipshitite. Yeah, but it was like trying to close caption Dusty's commentary on the Saturday night TBS show years ago. And there's dipshit over and there's the Egyptian over here with the fuck they couldn't understand him. You know, with all the problems in the Middle East today, I did not think that would speak out about the Egyptians of all people. And here come the Egyptians to fuck things up totally. God damn it. Oh, God. Well, let's see if we could play any of this again. You could see it. I watched it a few times because I watched it once reading the captions. And then I actually listened to what was said. Here's Ric Flair at Paisanos, Gainesville, Florida. Let me stop it for a second here. Well, Nicholas Dickhead, aka the Egyptian is on the conversation with Ric Flair right now. Ric Flair is dressed like some magical creature that was drawn on the wall of the pyramids. No, he's actually he's in his bright blue paisley. The gimmick that he's been wearing. He said that Paisanos, he's standing out at Paisanos in Gainesville, Florida, a very staid Republican area of the country. But that that was when he said, watch the media tomorrow. He was me. I'm going to tweet and bury you. And he was expecting that everybody was going to. Yeah. See, that's the thing. Ric doesn't do his own tweets. And what was tweeted out and also went on on Facebook. So went on a few different places. Whoever manages his social media. Got a phone call. Or God forbid a text from an angry Ric saying, I've had it with Paisanos. We got to blast them tomorrow. Let them know who's the boss. But wait a minute is you so you mean he's got somebody doing his tweets for him and they're still capitalizing every word? Yeah, that's some sort of bizarre strategy. Yeah. Oh, God, I thought it was just because you didn't know how to work the thing. Well, let's go back to Ric Flair trying to work the thing over at Paisanos. Oh, let me stop it there because there's another thing where the translation is wrong. He's saying, you don't have to do this and humiliate me in front of my family. And I guess that means cutting him off because again, they didn't kick him out at this point. They only cut him off. Right? Well, and yeah, according to what the guy is telling him, that's that's the story. But well, it's a little embarrassing when they have to come and say, yeah, I'd dad can't have any more fucking cores or whatever the case. Yeah, I'm here with my entire family. You may notice none of them are here with me right now. They're all in the parking lot waiting for this to end. Yeah, that's what I would think somebody in the family would have said maybe it's not worth the the consternation, Rick, but go ahead. Ric Flair at Paisanos. You said cuss word. You know, is that word against yours? I didn't say one cuss word. So now this goes into whatever the manager heard from the kitchen manager. Yes. About either Rick for a customer custom. I think Rick, when he said you cussed my kitchen, my cussed my Kissinger. That's what Nixon frequently said. Yes. And often and Angie Dickinson as well. But when you cussed my kitchen manager, Rick thought he said you accosted my kitchen. He said I didn't accost him. They can't understand what each other are saying because of the potential chemical imbalances that are going on in each brain here. Let's go back to Rick for his confrontation with the Egyptian Gainesville, Florida, Paisanos. No, ma'am, I'm gonna give you a $1,000 tip just to say to him, kiss my ass. You want outside here? You don't have to be this effective. I know you are. You're insurrect, you mean? Tell me to leave. I'm not telling you to leave, but you're cut off. Oh, I'm cut off without drugs? Really? Yes, sir. Well, let's stop it there because there's really the bonicom tension, I guess. The crux of the matter. Rick said you told me to leave. The guy said we didn't tell you to leave. We told you you're cut off. Well, that may be the same thing as telling him you got to leave. You think I'm here for the pizza? Yeah, this pizza was a shits. I just came for the fucking bourbon. God, now it stays like crap. The kamikazes. You don't matter your company tonight. Here, ma'am, here, ma'am, get out, ma'am. Ma'am, please give yourself a $1,000 tip. I've been making this for a year. All right, I'll let me do it. $1,000 tip. This guy and I are no fools. She and I are fools. I long come to the tip shape. Man, I love you so much. I'll say it again, you're a tip shape. Why are you leaving? Trust me, I won't come back yet. Come on, sit here and talk to me like a man. Well, let's stop it there. Now he's been kicked out. Yeah, now you've got to leave. Well, I'm leaving. You can't fire me, I quit. But now he- And along comes the tip shape. But now, unfortunately, he said to the guy, well, come outside and talk to me about this like a man or whatever. And the guy's about to say, and you'll hear it, I'm not going to do that. I'm on the clock. He's not going to go out and fight Ric Flair in a parking lot. But then one of the other people at the bar, this guy gets, I'll go outside with you. What did you say to me? This guy's been sitting there at the end of the bar. Listen, again, there are other patrons there. It's not like Ric Flair's the only person there. There are other people at the bar. This guy's six feet away. Listening through this whole fucking exchange. And as it's happening, him and one of the other patrons that are next to him, I don't even know if they know each other, but they're looking at each other. Yeah, everyone's like, what the hell is happening here? It looks like an old candid camera where Buster Keaton is doing a bit at the counter. Well, let's go back to this audio. Ric Flair has just challenged a manager or at least asked him to come outside. I'm not going to do that because I'm on the clock. You're on the pussy clock. Let me stop right there. That's my favorite line. That's my favorite line in the whole thing. I'm on the clock. Yeah, you are. You're on the pussy clock. Hey, you dipshit. You're on the pussy clock. Well, let's go back to the pussy clock and Ric Flair. Let me stop it there. So a guy stands up and he says, and I love what he says. He goes, you want to go to parking? I'll go to parking lot. I don't work here. I don't give a shit. The voice of reason is coming from the woman saying, don't do that. The waitress that's about to get a thousand dollar tip if somebody doesn't beat Ric up first. She's going, no, no, don't do that. So that's the endurance test for the staff of these places. Can we get this guy out of here in one piece before anyone kicks his ass and he doesn't give us this giant tip that he's been promising us for hours. All right. Well, he's been challenged. This is almost the end here. Well, that was the guy filming this ordering. He was asking for more mayonnaiseers and get a cup of mayonnaise. I don't know what he's saying. Just one. Ric Flair heard everything everyone said until the guy said, I'll go in the parking lot with you. They don't want to say, what did you say? What did you say? What? What did you say to me? Are you addressing me, sir? Again, you know, it's, um, he put this out there. No one knew anything about any of this until he decided to bring his war with Paisanos to the public forum. And now here we are, Ric Flair. The next day I have an article here from TMZ Sports. Ric Flair is sharing regret over losing his cool at the Gainesville Pizza Joint over the weekend, saying he should have just walked right out the minute things got heated. Nate joined the MJ Morning Show on Q105 to share his side of things on Wednesday. And while he does feel bad for how things went down, he also felt he needed to stick up for himself. It just escalated and I was wrong for getting mad, but I kind of felt like I was defending my position, Flair said. Flair also backtracked on his scathing review of the eatery, admitting he enjoyed his time and his meal there before things went sideways. I was wrong for losing my temper when I feel like I'm put in the area where I'm uncomfortable and all of a sudden everything just fell apart. I got upset. I was wrong for getting upset. I probably should have just walked out the door, but it caught me so off guard because we were having a wonderful time. Then all of a sudden someone in their kitchen said I did something wrong in the bathroom. And there's no one there except me. Is anybody proofreading this shit? The words somebody said I did something wrong in the bathroom shouldn't have been fucking issued. God, I'm too people not following the ins and outs of this case. Well, his last comment, there's no one there except me and him. So it's a he said he said. That's even worse. What are they saying though? What are they saying? Well, originally the story was that apparently that Rick was yelling at the kitchen manager because he wouldn't get out of the fucking shitter. I don't know. That's what it sounded like. But the way that Rick's apology, it sounded like that it's his word against his that he was acting him properly in the bathroom with another man. I'm not sure he's quelling this goddamn controversy. Oh, can we get can we get him a PR fucking team that can tweet and spell and remember, I think he has another year left. I don't say he WD at least. So we have to look forward to maybe it. Well, maybe he could get the energy drink into all the Pizzano's locations as a settlement on this thing. But that should be the spin. This is what happened when I didn't have my energy drink in the morning. And then you show that. And then the next time you show him buying pizzas for everyone and giving out thousand dollar tips like he's Oprah. I love Rick. I hate to say I just this is not just for Rick Flair, but it's for any celebrity or people in the public. I don't get fucking inebriated in public because everybody's got a camera and they want to make you look like a dipshit. And and if you do have a goddamn public incident where whether you were right or wrong, you were the inebriated one. Don't fucking tell people about it. Because then they'll research it and find out that you were probably the goddamn Egyptian, your own self. Never been more disrespected in his life. I work for Jim Hurd. Yes, I said I'm going to cut your hair and cut your salary, take your belt. But he gave him pizza. See, no one ever said Jim Hurd didn't deliver the pizza. They delivered the pizza. Good fucking connection there. See that you can you can find a fucking segue to the pizza thing. But well, we will stay on top of the Rick Flair restaurant review here on the show. Maybe he'll visit a Cuban place next week. We don't know. You know, I want to get to questions, but we have all these things happening and we are there's things going on. Let's follow up on a W dynamite because a ton of listeners have sent this over. Oh boy. Apparently, Brian Alvarez and Dave Meltzer have gotten into another one of their spats. Oh, you know, I hate it when when you see the the folks fight, you know, mom and pop. It's it's been it's been so long coming now, the tension in their marriage. And I'm reading now, Meltzer says what tweeted out some of the, I guess, history of this mindset from November 2020. It's a clip. I'm not going to play this right now. We'll see if we need to Alvarez tries to explain to Meltzer that AWS clearly defined baby faces and heels. Dave disagrees and says it's situational and that Cody said so too. And that Kenny Omega is not portraying a face or a heel. He's portraying a superstar. So with that said, let's go to this audio. We're going to break it up a few times because it's long, but you got to hear this. Again, the listeners are pounding us with it. Brian Alvarez and Dave Meltzer on Wrestling Observer Radio. You can see it on their YouTube page F4W online. Check this out. You got to see the visuals on this. Let's go to this. I'm talking about Tony Storm. Tony Storm beat Harley Cameron. So the thing with this match was, I mean, first off, Tony Storm is back to being a baby face this week after being a heel last week. Serena Deeb is on the ramp watching on and smiling as Tony is getting beaten down. I think she's supposed to be a baby face, but she came off as a heel. And then it's like Tony Storm is the champion against Harley Cameron. And my God, it felt like they went forever. She's like, Peter already. Let's stop for a second there. I agree with everything he said. Well, yeah, that's why I don't watch the girls matches because there are some of these because then I would just be saying the same things over and over, but it's not limited to what we're watching. It's also the shit we're skipping. If I asked you based on what you've seen, is Tony Storm a baby face or a heel? What would you say? At risk of hijacking the clip here for a second, they had something at the start with Tony Storm kind of losing it a little bit and having a nervous breakdown and the silent movie star. If they had played that straight and had some restraint and let her believe it in her mind, but everybody else would roll their eyes and she's nuts, right? And then after she's established that for three or four months, then maybe the understudy wanders into the picture, maybe even just at ringside and maybe following her around and you tell that story. And I'm not even opposed to Luther. He finally has some reason to exist. He's a fucking rotten fucking God awful wrestler, but as a fucking bald-headed Eric von Stroheim wannabe, he fits the fucking suit. You could introduce him and he could believe it, but within three weeks, everybody was going along with it. Ben Mankiewicz was putting up with it. And then within a couple of weeks after that, here's the understudy and they know, oh, we're going to do an all about Eve that, well, goddamn, Betty Davis had been a star on Broadway in the scope of the picture for 20 years before the other flusies showed up. They just glommed all this together and threw it all out there. And now the understudy wrestles more than Tony Storm does. And we don't know what the fuck is even going on with that because the understudy now is making out with the new Japanese girl that they found somewhere. And the answer to the question is Tony Storm, a baby face or a heel? Quite simply, obviously what happened, but then it got derailed by the booking. She was a heel. That was the place to start. That was the logic of the whole thing. But as she would get more goofy and lost in her mind and everything in the black and white era, the fans would kind of start liking it. And that would kind of make her a baby face to the fans that was still becoming a heel or was still being a heel. And that's where the understudy would come in because then the understudy, and you'd have to have Luther by that point because he'd serve as the agent also or whatever. Then the understudy would come in and the understudy fucks Tony Storm and it makes Tony Storm the baby face that they've wanted to like all along and puts heat on the understudy now with fucking bald-headed, fucking useless Luther. And there's six months, isn't it? A reverse precious, yes, I think so. And I guess would you agree that Serena Diem was presented last week as a baby face? Well, yeah, she has been most of the time that I remember and she's the professor and she's very technically proficient. And last week she was presented as a deer caught in the fucking headlights. But that wasn't really the plan going in. Well, let's continue with this audio because it'll come up. Let's go back to Brian Alvarez and Dave Meltzer on Tony Storm. How long was it? Let me see. Let me get my if it's more than two minutes, it was too long. What? Victor Trump. I'm starting to like him more and more. God damn it. What if he teams up with fucking Kenny Olivier, the goddamn world is coming to an end. They pushed Harley Cameron. They gave Carl... He's had one match prior to this. Tony's the champion. They're trying to build Tony to a match on the pay-per-view in a week with somebody else. Have Harley beat somebody else. Mariah Met. He, for all of Brian Alvarez's faults when it comes to AEW coverage and listening to certain people and repeating certain fucking spins. When it comes to the booking, he's pointing out all the stuff we all see. You can't ignore it. Well, apparently you can because the guy on the other end of the fucking horn there as they used to say is ignoring it. Well, let's hear what Dave has to say, but I agree with every single thing Brian Alvarez... Let's hear what Dave has to stutter. Well, let's see. Tony Storm, they went seven minutes. Seven minutes. That? I mean, that's a short match for AEW television. That was not a big fan of this. And it was the only women's match on the show. If they had the only women's match on the show and they went two minutes, I promise you there's going to be so much criticism online. Who gives a shit? Well, you know what I have to say about online criticism? I would rather book for success than worry about online criticism. I don't care if people are angry that it was only two minutes. I would not have Tony Storm a week before a title defense on pay-per-view going seven minutes back and forth with Harley Cameron who's had one match. Boom! It's making a lot of sense. Now we know Dave is hearing this. We know that Dave is getting this information fed to him by someone close to him rather than an adversarial type of situation. Is he just incapable of the understanding of the same? Who looked good in the one match? And this was a good match. I thought, I mean, Harley Cameron for the number of matches she's had is really good. They had a very good match. Tony Storm, instead of doing the gimmick, is showing that in fact she's wrestling seriously, which she did in this match. And I thought it was very effective. Who cares whether it's a good match? It's not supposed to be. They're building to a good match. A good match that people care about. It's like I said earlier, everything in AEW is a competitive squash match. It doesn't matter who the person they're pushing is in there with. It's not about Harley Cameron in this case. It's about the champion not being able to beat someone in seven minutes. In this case, that's too long. But in other cases, we see matches go like 10 minutes, 15 minutes. You know what the conclusion is. It's all about just having a great match. Oh, the last time. Who's the heel? It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. No, it doesn't. Dave, I have seen so many segments with Tony Storm where there is no heat for the interview because nobody cares about the baby face because the baby face. Did you watch the segment they did last week? You in the building when Tony Storm came out and she got sheared like crazy. This match did not have no heat. This match had plenty of heat. Cameron was the heel. Harley Cameron was heel. Tony Storm was a big time baby face. Yes, Dave. And last week, she was a heel. Tony was a heel last week. So whoever they cheer for. Serena was out there doing a sad story about how she almost died. And guess what? And nobody cared. They booed her. It will stop in there for a moment. Dave is incapable of really pointing out the flaws with the AEW booking, isn't he? You know, it makes you stutter and stammer like Dave at this point to wonder whether that he really can't see what he's saying or what he's not saying or whether it's that he can't figure out an artful way to deflect it. So he just has to disagree with it. It's it's he's he's panicking. He's making a valid point. He's thinking in his head. This guy's making a valid point and I can't figure out a way to get out of it. So I'm just going to disagree with it, even though it's nonsense. Well, he disagree. He flat out said it didn't matter if she was a heel or a baby face. And Alvarez correctly pointed out she was a heel last week. She's just suddenly a baby face now this week. It doesn't help long term growth, the book like that. Right? It would know, of course not. And nobody can keep straight from one week to the other. Who's sad they're supposed to be on in this conflict? Let's go back to what has been titled the Great Tony Storm debate. Alvarez and Meltzer Wrestling Observer Radio. So they switched the thing around to follow the crowd. What's wrong with that? Because they didn't switch it. And she will be a heel. She will be a heel the next time you see her. It doesn't matter as long as the crowd reacted like crazy. This is on WWE does this constantly. No, they don't. They have baby faces and heels. They have baby faces and heels. Now at this point, Dave is like you have to see the visual. It's almost like it hit him that Alvarez is right. But he was already ready to fire back with an argument. And he's like he starts twitching with it like holding it. He just can't. Yeah, he's firing back with an argument. He just can't figure out what it is. So does a double and it's except with Tony. And it's situational. It depends on who's wrestling, who on what show. That's not I mean, they have technically what's the last show where Drew is a baby face. True. True. Okay, what about what about Bronson reading Chad Gable when they wrestled each other? Who was the baby face and who was the heel? Bronson reading Chad Gable. Yeah, what match? They should have matched last week. Chad was the heel. And he is a heel. Dave Dave. So Bronson reads the baby face is Bronson read the baby face next to the baby face next week. Is he usually the baby face? No, that's what happens. You have situational things and that's what you do. Does that make any sense situational baby faces and heels? No, because it's not just switching back and while you're interacting with the same pool of people, the side that we're supposed to take as observers switches from one week to the next week with AEW with yes, Serena was supposed to be the sympathetic person and Tony to give a ship. But this week and blah, blah, blah in the WWE. Yes, you do have heels wrestling heels or baby face wrestling baby faces and sometimes crowd picks aside, but they're not changing sides with each other as to who you're supposed to support individual people from one week to the next. I'm trying to figure out a way to verbalize that. Let's go back to the man who cited Chad Gable versus Bronson read as the great example of this experiment. Dave Meltzer and Brian Alvarez. Everyone has it because you sometimes make matches where there's a different thing. It's not a big deal. And it certainly wasn't here because the match was effective. The match was good. And again, Tony Storm, who has done a lot of the gimmick so heavy for so long that has not shown up shown off her wrestling skill. And she's going to do a match with Serena Dieb where the whatever it is, they are going to go out and do a wrestling match. So therefore, for if if Tony Storm went and did her Tony Storm gimmick and Serena Dieb on the pay per view, it would suck. So they're basically showing she is going to wrestle Tony Storm, and they're going to have a good match. So that is, so that is what we can discuss. Hold on. Hold on. Is they explaining it or defending it? That's the issue. Well, he sounds like he's trying to do both. And that's why people think that he's full of horse shit. But what what the point is, is what he's saying there, if it would be correct then that God damn Tony Storm should then go out and completely out wrestle this girl and slap a submission hold on her in about two minutes and blow through as a look what I'm going to do to Serena Dieb and training. I know all these holes. I know the crotch locked legs, triangle and the Guatemalan flying toe hold and boom. Yeah, then it would make sense. But not she's going to have a great work wrestling match. She's going to fucking take 10 minutes to demonstrate all of the great moves that she can do in this fake bullshit she's going to do with his other girl. Yeah, really, what kind of explanation is that if she's going to go out there in the ring and have a match in cavefabe against this professor in the ring who could dismantle everyone, she's going to go out there and show that she can impress people in the ring by going seven minutes with someone who's never wrestled before or once before until yes that yes that's what he's saying because he's an idiot and he doesn't understand what he's fucking saying. He doesn't understand the words that are coming out of his own mouth. Well, let's hear more of those words. After the devil nothing man. That is what that next Wednesday. That is what they are. That is what the story is. The story is is that she went in there and the crowd cheered her. The crowd knew who the baby face was. The crowd knew who the heel was. They cheered Tony all the time. But they knew. They cheered her every week even when she's playing the heel roll against another baby face. She should always be a baby face. Well, there's no need for her to be a heel. She's never going to get booed. Okay, but guess what? So can we stop killing all the other baby faces by having her be a heel that everyone loves? Okay, I've never seen anyone do to Dave what Dave does to other people like Alvarez just did. Up, up, up, up, up, up, up. He just completely steamrolled them. Yeah. And by the way, it also the only reason why people know that Harley Cameron draws a breath on the face of this big blue marble hurtling through space is because she was the QTV girl. And if anybody would fucking not want to see any more of anything, it would be on what was on QTV. So yeah, she's known for QTV and also being in a feud over gaping. Let's go back to Brian Alvarez and Dave Meltzer. Okay, but that's the problem. Okay, no. Okay. What is what is what is what is the other thing that Tony Storm? What's the other thing that Tony Storm? She is the world champion. Yes. A real world champion wrestles baby faces and heels. And in that role, depending upon the situation, you're situational. That's everyone from Luthers to Jack Brisco to Dory Funk Jr. to Flare to whatever. Let me stop it because that's absurd to compare one to the other. There's to Flair to Tony Storm. No, she's not traveling around the world to hostile territories, fucking defending the precious AEW women's world title, one of the women's titles. Seriously, just Dave, come out and say what I said encapsulated earlier. She needed to start as a heel, which she did. And if they'd have allowed this to flesh out instead of jumping a shark with it after three weeks, she the fans would have liked it. And then she would have had some way to turn with the understudy and the evil agent or whatever and become a full fledged baby face. And there would have been some logical progression in the story and in the character and the whole all these other buzzwords, these fucking little fucking tap dance and kids like to fucking say. And instead, they booked it into a goddamn mess like they do everything else and just come out and say it. No, she they're just cheering her because they like her because she's interesting and that's better than most of the direct that's on this program. But that none of this makes any sense from week to week or has any consistency. Please come out and say that, Uncle Dave. And again, there's a difference in explaining, which is kind of what Alboros is doing about the way this has all been laid out and reality and defending, which is what Dave is doing. Dave is defending this booking, which is led to these numbers. What's like his mother's being held over an open flame if he in any way loses this argument? He can't be wrong. Let's go back to Mr. Right. What's happening here? What's happening is she is a heel. She's not a heel. She is portrayed as a heel. You have to see the video of this, Dave, it's the cameras on him and he gets really mad and he like lunges. He lunges towards the camera. I could be I could be fearing for my life if I saw that. No, there's a camera that he lunges towards the camera, not at anyone. So you don't have to worry, but he lunges towards the camera. Well, if it was in 3D, well, let's go back to the great argument here. She was an opponent. They have her opponents. They have her opponents trade. This is the Dave. This is an exception. Harley Cameron is a heel. Harley Cameron is a heel. She was a babyface. Yes. If you watch the show, this is an exception. And guess what? Guess what? And it is an angle that makes sense because Harley Cameron wrestled Mariah May, her protege, and who is portrayed as a babyface? Well, who's a babyface in that match, in that situation. So therefore, she's trying to get revenge for the fact that they beat up Mariah May. And so in that role, she is in fact the babyface. So she was a babyface. She got cheered. She had a good match. And and right. Hold on one second. She had a good match. And well, we keep hearing that. And also the the evil unders all about Eve, whether she was evil or just a fucking opportunist or whatever, the understudy that's brought in to do the we kept hearing at the start of this angle, we're doing all about Eve. They had grand delusions. They were Orson Welles. I think they're more like HG Wells. This is some science fiction bullshit. But the understudy is supposed to be the fucking catalyst for the heel star of our show, Tony Storm, to become a babyface. And now the fucking the understudy is a babyface first. So does that make any goddamn sense? Or are they just redoing all about Eve to make it all about Steve? And again, Dave is vociferously defending this, which is crazy. It's almost like he booked it himself. Let's go back to this. Oh, they had a a good wrestling match where she showed that she was wrestling. There was nothing I can't find a thing wrong with this at all. Not well, we'll discuss this again next Wednesday for the next segment they do. And Serena D. Because I will go in there. Yes, they go if they go in the match, it doesn't. So if they cheer Tony Storm cool, if they boo Tony Storm cool, they're probably gonna cheer. But that's yes, they are going to cheer her. Fine. That's fine. It's fine. What's wrong with that? Because her opponent is being pushed as a babyface. And no one cares about her opponent. And the exact same thing happened with Deanna. Deanna was supposed to be the babyface. Nobody cared. Okay, well, if they go out there and go, if the fans don't care, then guess what? It would have been even worse if she was the heel and what? At least in this case. I don't understand what that meant. I don't. I've lost it around the far turn. I kid there was there was a big bush there and they switched places. I don't know what now he is saying. What do you think of Alvarez kind of marching on Dave? I mean, everything he's saying I agree with. Yeah, I mean, it's not like he's saying anything that's that's out of the bounds of sanity, reason or logic. He's making every point he's made is valid and Dave won't. He will not give up that fucking ground. San Juan Hill is safe. And I think this is actually beyond Dave and Brian arguing about this. The bigger issue is this is one of those things with AEW. They need to change. You need babyfaces and heels. We've seen the experiment now. You need babyfaces and heels. And maybe this is why that is AEW, unfortunately, is listening to Uncle Dave as he sinks further and further into the rutabaga of his brain. And most normal people are forced to think like Alvarez, like normal, logical human beings. What is happening? That's what I'm saying. It needs to go the other way. Serena Deeb should be the heel. Tony should be the babyface. Deanna should have been the heel. Tony should have been the babyface. Tony should be the babyface going forward. Okay, that's what should happen. Okay, then Tony should be the babyface of the fans. Sure, I agree. I agree. All right. Well, we'll see what happens next week when she's the heel and Serena's the babyface. But guess what? Serena was was not necessarily a babyface when she was out on the ramp at all. She wasn't today, but she was last week when she's talked about how she almost died. She's begging the fans to cheer and they won't. Brian. Yes. Maybe he did it again. Brian. Brian. Oh, Brian. She almost died. You know what? That used to be, it must be Stacy on her cell phone. She customized Gary Jester's ringtone. I remember this. Every time Gary Jester would call her cell phone trying to get ahold of me and for some emergency, it would be a Goldman from Family Guy going, oh my God, I think I just had a miscarriage. They learned from last week. Is there a possibility they learned from last week? And that's why they did this, aside from the fact that it all fits into the story. Dave, you want to know why I'll say no, there's not a possibility? Okay. Because three weeks ago, Tony Storm was playing the babyface role and I was like, okay, finally they figured it out. Tony's the babyface. The very next week, they switched it again and had Serena D play babyface and talk about how she almost died. Well, they thought that. Begging fans to cheer and nobody did. Well, guess what? So they learned. Okay. So they learned. So they learned. So they learned. We will figure out next Wednesday when they do another segment if she's still a babyface. Well, where were we? Well, it doesn't, I mean, as long as the crowd, look, as long as the crowd's going to react, I don't care who the babyface is or the heel is, you know, in this day and age, the crowd's going to do what the crowd's going to do. So let's stop. That's a very interesting thing he just said. In this day and age, the crowd's going to do what the crowd's going to do. Does that mean the booker should give up on trying to push them in certain directions? No, of course not. The crowd is going to do what the crowd's going to do when the crowd gets bored or scoffing at what they're seeing and is not interested in it. Or because they're not, they can make up more interesting shit amongst themselves or see more interesting things about a particular talent than is being presented on the show by the supposed professionals. That's when the crowd's going to do what the crowd's going to do. Every once in a while, you have a personality that they're going to like and they're going to get into something that that person does or the, whether the Malkies, because they took that classic ass whipping and they looked like such nebulous, but they, you know, the people loved it. Or we had an OVW who got him Rod Steel. He was big and tall and kind of bland, but he got a fucking Randy Savage kind of sparkly, you know, cape outfit and he would do a big body slam because that was the best move he had, right? And we'd put him in dark matches and every once in a while, he'd make television because I couldn't use him seriously as part of the developmental program. But the fans in unison, whenever he would body slam somebody, they would scoop slam. It'd be like they're chatting for Cody right today. So we would have him have a dark match and let the people see him and he would get to do three or four scoop slams in a row. But that didn't mean that we goddamn then put a belt on him and had him open the show for 40 weeks in a row. The point is you've got to tell the stories that you want to tell and put your talent, especially your main talent, your key talent in consistent positions. You can't have a guy portrayed as foreclosing on the fucking orphanage over at the shady rest one week in your story in your program. And then the next week have him tragically befall a fucking situation from some other heel and he boy, we should give him our sympathy. Fuck it. It's what he deserved because last week he foreclosed on the orphanage. You've got to be consistent. You can't have you key just because the crowd is going to cheer someone because they like them does not override the fact that you can't have somebody being arrested for goddamn you know aggravated mayhem one week and then be portrayed as a moral saint and a straight edge character the next week. That's what doesn't work in any kind of storytelling or any kind of character development or any kind of form of entertainment. You're just telling people, I can't trust any of these motherfuckers, so I'm disinterested. Well, let's go back to a little bit more Dave Meltzer and Brian Alvarez arguing on Wrestling Observer Radio. You know, I mean, how many times we went through this whole thing with John Cena for 10 years? Yeah. And what did we say, Dave? We say should have gone babyface. John Cena should have stayed babyface. Yeah. And when Roman Reigns was was getting a boot like crazy, we say should have gone heel. Okay, John. With it. Okay, each time. I never said John Cena should turn heel. I was always against John Cena turning heel because guess what? I think about business and the business was is that John Cena was selling the most tickets and John Cena was selling those merchandise and if he turned heel, the merchandise sales would go down. And that's why Vince McMahon never turned him. And when he went to the house shows, he always got cheered. And it was just the TV crowd. And John Cena was the most successful character they had for all those years as he was being booed as a babyface. So it doesn't matter that he was booed as a babyface at all, because he was the number one drawing card that they had that entire period, except for a brief period, I think then I think. Can we pause for a second? Yes, numb nuts. Everything you just said was true. And also during that time, John Cena was preaching hustle and loyalty and respect and fucking make a wish and positive principles and never say die and never give up. And you know, he was a little negative. You can't see me. But he wasn't flip flopping between stabbing people in the back and turning on his friends one week and then being that same stand up person the next week or he wasn't wrestling opponents that had just come back from serious goddamn open fucking colon surgery or had had deaths in a family and was on a comeback tour and being his opponents weren't portrayed in sympathetic lights. Everybody's point in this morality play was clearly defined. And who's side that a normal person would want to be on in the story? If you believe the story, which is where they had the kids and the casuals and the hardcore is booting because they were unhappy with whatever the fuck. But kids and the casuals were still buying all the merchandise. They didn't have him come out and say, well, fuck half the audience then to react to this. They continued telling the story that made sense. Brian did articulate that clearly. Very clearly. I'm sorry. Let's go back to the opposite side of clarity. Dave most brief period where Jeff Hardy may have surpassed him. But you know, it was brief because, you know, didn't didn't whatever, you know, it didn't sustain and Jeff was Jeff, you know, they, you know, so it doesn't like the whole point is it's it doesn't matter who they cheer or boo you. It's everything is situational. Sometimes fans are going to boo baby faces. And if they do, you know, it kind of sucks when they boo a baby face. So you that's probably better to turn them. But sometimes like again, John Cena shows in this case, it's I've seen so many heels get cheered. And it was fine. You know, I mean, it's it's tough for a baby face, but if business is good, then it's, you know, whatever. Everyone cheered the NWO. It was great for a while. At some point, of course, it turned bad. But that was years when it did. It took years to three years. They were out of business and they tried to turn a baby face. All right. And with well, that's the end of that. Jesus Christ. The problem is this is kind of a great way to look at Tony Khan's mindset. And the justifications he has internally for his booking, because he leans on Dave. And you hear Dave defending this bad booking, trying to compare it to things that worked in the past. Look at the results. There's no resemblance to anything that's ever been done in the past, much less worked in the past. And again, don't defend things when they're not working. Look at the ratings. Look at the pay per view buys. Everything is down, down, down. So it's not the time to defend what's not working. It's the time to try to say the things out loud that cause them to fix things. And that's not what we got here. Any other thoughts on Dave's defense of Tony Storm's booking and anything else here? Well, no, if they if they pay Dave per word or partial word, then he's he's making a ton of money, but he can't for McCogin similarly and get to the point because for one thing, he doesn't have a point to get to. Every time you analyze it, unless you go around in circles like he's doing, you come to the conclusion that Alvarez makes a very good point. Whether in real life or whether in the kayfabe story land of the television program or all points in between. Yes, the fans are going to cheer for whoever they want to these days because they're all smart to begin with. But there needs to be consistency from one week to the next. Or if someone drastically changes their viewpoint or their moral fiber or their demeanor, there needs to be some pivotal point that happens to them that causes that. Or if a man's longtime manager and confidant gets laid out and we never see him again, he probably should refer to him even if to say, well, it took me a while to fucking dig the hole, but I finally got rid of that son of a bitch. These type of things. And that's not happening. And Dave is trying to defend it. He can't defend it because it doesn't make it's not even it's not even good storytelling for smart fans, much less for people that actually would make this a profitable company comparable to or competitive with the industry leader. He's out of touch with thinking outside the wrestling bubble. He's stuck in the wrestling bubble and he doesn't realize it. He's in one of the smaller wrestling bubbles, too. This goes even past the the kind of interested fan that would, you know, watches a lot of the TV shows and buys t-shirts. This is all the way into the, you know, we're paraplegics and can't move. So we're stuck on the internet type of wrestling thing. Some more news from the real world before we get to wrestling because so much fun with this stuff. Jim, a few stories. I have this one from the Washington Post here. The four top singer accuses Hospital of racism, putting him in a straight jacket. What? Have you been following this story? No, I have not only have I not been following it, but it has escaped me. And apparently one of the four tops has escaped somewhere. Who, which one? Well, what's what's happening? This article is by Leo Sands. And for the record, there is one of the original four tops who's still alive, but like a lot of classic doo-wop groups or Motown groups, they still tour with the one active member, one living member and replace the rest of them. I've been replaced. Is this sugar pie or honey bunch? I'm not sure, but it's probably a very nice show. And he probably has a very nice voice. But here's the article. The lead singer of the four tops Motown band is suing a Michigan hospital and two staff members alleging racial discrimination after they wrongfully treated him as if he was mentally ill. What? When he identified himself as a member of the group. Alexander Morris, who is black, said in his lawsuit that staffers at Southeast Michigan Ascension Macomb Oakland Hospital. Now wait, let's make sure where the hate mail goes to the right place. What's the name of this fucking joint? Michigan's Ascension Macomb Oakland Hospital assumed he was delusional after arriving at the hospital in an ambulance with clear symptoms of cardiac distress. Oh my God. In April, 2023, he's having a heart attack and he tells him that if my name is so and so, what do you have a member of the four tops and they put the heart attack patient to straight jacket after identifying himself as a member of the four tops? Said Morris, 53, workers denied him medical treatment by removing him from oxygen and instead ordered him to undergo a psychological evaluation and placed him in a restraining jacket. After 90 minutes, the singer was released from restraints when he was able to show a video of himself performing at the Grammys. Oh my God. To a nurse, the lawsuit alleges. Oh, shit. This is insane. What do you think she then said to this guy at a straight jacket that she's seeing perform as a member of the four tops in Las Vegas? Can you imagine you're having a heart attack? You go to the hospital and I don't know how it comes up. You know, hey, sir, tell us a little bit about you, whatever it may be. I'm the lead singer of the four tops and maybe I guess maybe their argument's going to be we didn't know the four tops were still performing. I mean, I don't know what your argument could be, but it shouldn't be lock them up, put them in a straight jacket. Well, besides that, I mean, as you mentioned, yes, we know that everybody from, you know, Casey in the Sunshine Band to the four tops have changed members, especially the Motown Soul Groups, because, you know, like if you've got one of them alive in a lot of cases due to age, it's miraculous they can still perform and they fill in this fucking Leonard Scannard Jesus. So you don't know these comments. Bill, I've got okay, I didn't even I didn't know any of them were still around. I think there may be a comment left. Well, one one layer Haley's comment. But the point is, if this isn't racial discrimination, as much as is it medical malpractice, because even if the guy says I'm fucking Julius Caesar, isn't he still having a heart attack? And so maybe that's what could you don't stop treatment, because he said, yeah, you know, fucking Rick Finch don't want to go on a road anymore. So Harry Wayne, Casey got a whole new band or whatever the fuck, right? I went what I don't understand. This is medical malpractice. Let me scroll down regardless of what make sure the guy's not having a heart attack. And then yeah, well, he's, let me jump in. He's suing for at least 75,000 in damages, alleging he was misdiagnosed and mistreated because of his race by the hospital, a nurse, and a security guard. And then it says here that when he went in hospital employees wrongfully assumed he was mentally ill and made the decision or move him from oxygen and pursue a psychiatric evaluation instead. You know, that's scary that that could happen. It did. Now wait, when he came in, that that could happen when he does it say there in that crack reporting. Well, here you go. When he tried to resolve the mistake by asking to show identification, the lawsuit alleges a white security guard told him to quote, sit his black ass down. There you go. There you go. That's why he's going to. Okay. Now it's medical malpractice and racial discrimination. But why I said, how did he arrive there? Did he, did he come in an ambulance? Was he, he was in an ambulance, I believe. After Morris showed a nurse a video of his performance at the Grammys, the lawsuit said the nurse realized he was a member of the four tops and the nurse went and got an emergency room doctor or got the emergency room doctor to inform him the emergency room doctor returned and said he was canceling the psychological evaluation. No, he should have, he should have taken it himself. The lawsuit said that Morris was ultimately diagnosed with a heart issue requiring a potential transplant and pneumonia that he suffered three seizures during the hospital stay. As an apology, Morris said, Oh my God, the hospital offered him a $25 gift card for a supermarket, which he declined. Wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on. It's just so ridiculous. But what was the amount that you just said there that he's suing for? He's suing for at least 75,000 in damages. At least who the fuck is advising this fucking guy? Wait a minute. Ladies and gentlemen, if you are ever taken to a hospital and put into a straight jacket instead of receiving medical treatment because you are a famous person or at least you're somebody that they don't think you are, I know who you can call. Or two. Those are the rest. Boy, howdy. Go no further than what is this guy's name again, the new top Brian? What's his name? The lead singer of the four taps of four taps. Top Smote. Maybe I'm going to get locked up. I'm a Jack Pepper. I used to tour with the four taps. Alexander Morris. Alexander Morris. Stephen P. Neu needs to call you because you are a fucking idiot. If you're suing this hospital. Don't say that. He's been through a lot. No, 75,000. But you know how much Stephen P. Neu could get this guy in his sleep in Beckley, West Virginia, much less goddamn. Where is this place located? This was in Michigan. What part of Michigan? The Ascension Macomb Oakland Hospital. Somewhere near Macomb or Oakland if those are towns, I would presume. Well, I think that's counties and I think it's around Detroit. And my guy Stephen P. Neu, Alexander will be the new chief of staff of that hospital if Stephen P. Neu gets ahold of him or he gets ahold of Stephen P. Neu. Because how is that not a multi-million dollar lawsuit? I come in, I've got pneumonia and heart issues, and I come in in an ambulance. And just because I say I'm the lead singer of the four tops, which I really am, and can prove it if you'll shut the fuck up, you're fucking putting me in a straight jacket. And this is the medical malfeasance at its most masterful. This is an open and shut. That's a slam dunk, as they say in the legal profession. How the fuck, 75th, I'll buy his case for 75th. I will write him a check right now for $75,000 and buy his case and I'll hire Stephen P. Neu and he'll get me $3 million. I don't think it works that way. You can't buy and sell these things. No, it's not like a wrestler's contract. Well, shit, as Mama Cornette used to say. The hospital's defense is going to be last week. We had three smoky Robinsons and two David Ruffins come in. But that Eddie Kendricks, he broke some shit with his voice, with his high pitch voice. Yes, yes, every window in the fucking operating room is shattered. Stephen P. Neu. 8770. Well, yes, yes. Well, I think, well, 8770. Steve is the number for you to call Stephen Alexander. Well, no, don't don't call him. Don't call him Alexander. His name is Stephen. But I'm saying Alexander call 8770 Steve to get a hold of Steve to smarten your ass up. How did you skip right past the idea? Because this is incredulous to me. They gave him a $25 gift card for a supermarket. What the fuck? It was already passed. He declined it. He's smart. I'm sure he did. Declined up their ass. Their ass became a broken ATM machine and it was declined it. What the fuck? How could you know this is I am incensed that this fucker is trying to let him off a 75 grand. There's got to be some punitive issues going on here. He is they have got to be punitized. You know what it means to be punitized in court, don't you, Brian? I'm a small town bird lawyer and I know all the verbiage. When you're punitized on top of the damaged eyes, that means you get three times the money and in cash. You know again and you get to sleep with the other guys white. Again, I don't think any of this I'm pretty certain none of this is actually what happens. But Stephen P. New could be the man for you newlawoffice.com. Yeah. Well, I you know that goes without saying that wasn't the highlight of the no no. Because then Brian I had completely forgotten what where wrestle dream came from what the meaning the heart and soul behind wrestle dream. Well, I'd forgotten that it was all a tribute from Antonio Connochee to Antonio Inoki. Since we they did it last year and and I thought they might have the good sense to leave it alone at this point. But no, they returned this year and Tony came out and I he was he's a social moron. You know what I mean? He has no idea how to just how to be. But he was just screaming. Hopping. Well, first he was you know, the he was looking out at the people and he was kind of not really hopping but just kind of vibrating a bit back and forth. And then he began screaming. And it wasn't like that they were doing the Dominic Mysterio thing where the every time he opens his mouth, they're trying to make noise and drown him out. They were already half ass listening, right? I don't want to scream like he's I can't do it. I would hurt myself. And he's holding a mic. It's not like he's screaming with no mic. No, he's screaming into the mic. While these two very calm children next to him were just standing there. Well, no, wait a minute. First he he he came out first and then and started screaming. And then he brought them out to scream at them while not looking at them. He was neither blinking nor looking at the two people. He said the grandchildren, the grandsons of Antonio and Nokey. And now I've started to think as they walk out next to him and they got the red towels around a neck and he's giving their names and I truthfully didn't write their first names down, not disrespecting these teenage young men. But to point is Tony is screaming their names. But he's not looking at them and they're two feet to the left of him. I'm thinking is he reading the names from behind the camera. But then the whole time that he was screaming at the fans, he never looked at these kids once. Did you notice that? I did notice that he also called Antonio and Okie wrestling's greatest dreamer. Yes, yes. Like when he dreamed of taking new Japan's profits and diverting them to other interests that he had. And that sugar cane plant or farm Brazil and but he dreamed up a lot of creative accounting. But but no so I also want to honor Hiroshi Shinma wrestling's greatest scapegoat. That's where they got the gimmick from. Yeah, from Shinma. You know what? The grandkids should have just grabbed the microphone and said honorable master Shinma was innocent. It was Sayama all along. Sayama really? Not Sakaguchi, but it's a total swerve. It's Tiger Bass. Sayama, it was all his fault. See once again, we're now we talk about them narrow casting, but then folks, this is the only way that Brian and I can make it entertaining for ourselves. They should have had my Aida run out there and shoot kick both of the kids. Start a new feud. Face in. Yeah. But no, Tony comes out. He screams at the people. He brings out the two grandsons of Antonio and Okie, screams their names. He's neither blinking nor looking at these two people that are right next to him. And then he's just to an honor of Antonio and Okie, wrestling greatest dreamer, the whole big thing. He's screaming, we want everybody to let's do Antonio and Okie's famous chant. And when he said that, I swear to God, the place was so quiet, I could hear a black hole turning in outer space. Nobody knew what to do. They don't. It's been 40 years, right? The New Japan face. And never in America was that chant over. And so, but then they've anticipated that. They may not have anticipated the dead silence. Maybe they thought people are going to go, yes, let's all join in doing this thing that you're going to hopefully tell us how to do. So then they put it up on the screen and Tony Khan tries to, or Tony Shavani, I'm sorry, Tony is standing there who's introduced this whole thing. He's there to help Tony Khan. Lead this chant. Tony Shavani tries to read it for the people, but it's up there fairly quickly. So Tony's a beat behind and it's in Japanese. So he, for people who have never, one would think, heard it or seen it written or whatever, one time may not be enough. What is it? Nichi, I said, Nishin-da. Nishin-da. Okay. And people think Nishin-da, Toyota, but Nishin-da. But it goes by on the screen one time and Tony Shavani reads it. And then this was the most awkward segments I've ever seen. Tony Khan says, that's right, one more time. And it's off the screen and they've gone back to a graphic. And the people are like, what are we supposed to do? They say, started to get with it at the end when they realized that they could read it. Right? So he calls for it again. It's not there. And he's saying, one more time to Tony, like, can you help? And just then it pops back up. And then Tony's ahead of everybody doing it because he's just all amped up. Everybody doing it. No one was doing it. No one was a chant. He's still the famous chant. When he said, let's all do his famous chant. I said to myself, there's no way anyone here is going to know what that is. This could be really awkward. And that it was even more awkward because it was him and Shavani leading it and no one doing it. Tony was even ahead of Tony Shavani. Tony Khan was in the band. And then Tony Khan thanked everybody and people walked away. They were on the stage. And some of them may have walked out of the arena as well. But awkward. In Japanese, Anoki's grandchildren said, what the fuck? Yeah. So last time I do this shit, my grandfather would have walked out. And one kid would look like he was fucking 16 years. How long has Anoki been gone now? I guess it's only a few years. Only a few years. But, you know, I don't remember how old his children were. He had signed. Remember there was Simon Anoki? Anoki wasn't his real name, but he was the summon law. Yeah. I was going to say he was by marriage related. So are those Simon Anoki's kids? I guess that's what it could be. Well, at least that way, maybe he didn't have to fly them all the way in from Japan. He could have just brought them up from Los Angeles. That's all, dude, his famous chant. That's one of the greatest phrases ever for something no one knew what he was going to do. And Shavani noted new Japan expert Shavani was going to help him lead the chant. He's going to help me because he was probably reading it for the first time, but it was like if somebody had come out there with the microphone and said, OK, everybody in the crowd, let's now chant Socrates's theory in ancient Greek. I thought this segment was so amazing. I was dumbfounded. And I said, there's no way Jim watched a free show. I need to find it. Couldn't find it anywhere on YouTube because I was going to send you the link. This is a must see segment. Tony Khan has no idea how to behave in public or how to use a microphone. And then the chant part with Shavani is one of the most awkward moments in the history of wrestling television. And this is still just a pre-show. This is just a pre-show. It's like if you had two abbots and no Costello. It was just it was very strange. That was the one segment on the paper of you. I couldn't wait. I was hoping you saw the pre-show and I couldn't wait to hear what you would say about that because it was stunning for Tony's disheveled look. The stoicism of the Anarchy grandchildren as this is all happening. Shavani at his frumpiest worst. And no one there knowing this chant and they pulled back and they get the wide shot just so you could feel the awkwardness. Yes, everybody's what do we do? What do we do? And they put the words on the screen that didn't really seem to help and then Tony wants them to keep going and the owner of the company saying let's do it again and they just play music like it's the Grammys and they're trying to get them off the stage. Remember when they did it that like Sinatra? Lifetime Grammy was the Grammys of the Oscars when they gave Sinatra a lifetime award. Oh shit. It was like his last appearance ever on TV. Old man Sinatra and he comes up and he gives the big speech and they start playing music to get him off the stage. All right. So this is it. Oh it ain't your program is it? Uh this is the experience actually. Yes, but you have before we get to this smackdown as our grand finale you have a couple of things that are making the news as we're sitting here speaking that we needed to discuss or talk about or acknowledge or whatever. Is that correct? Well in the last day because it started while we were recording yesterday we've just received a bunch of emails about three specific things. Emails and tweets about three specific things so I thought we should probably address them here. Why wait until the drive-through which is there's an outcry from the people and we need to go ahead and get this done said to get these people off our back. That's right. We want to get these people off our back. So go ahead and start unloading them. What's first? Well I don't know how much you saw of this Jim. Hopefully none. But we were tagged in a bunch of stuff on Twitter and then I don't look at it anymore. Well the Meltzer said what Twitter account tweeted out a couple of clips and they're very interesting and a lot of people find them quite humorous. It is Brian Alvarez with Vinny his friend and longtime co-host. Not the one we're thinking of. Which one are you thinking of? Well either McMahon or shit stain. Well no I said Vinny not Vince's. Well they used to call Vince McMahon Vinny back in the old days. That's right Gary. And I don't trust anybody with named Vin. So Vin Diesel's out of my fucking Christmas card list. Vin Vincent Vince any kind of Vinny any kind of variation of that. All right well the Brian and Vinny show had a review of something from AEW that I'm going to guess is a program we're unaware of. And then after we hear some of that we'll talk about that. Also Meltzer said what tweeted out with this same clip here. Audio of Brian Alvarez with Dave Meltzer talking about the exact same thing which is to something we talked about in part one of the show. It's revealing about Dave's relationship with Tony Khan. So he comes out and talks about their relationship. Who gave who the ring? Well that's not what they talk about here but let's get to this audio. So first it's Vinny and Brian and Alvarez has been somewhat verclimped in the past at Uncle Dave because he's having a harder and harder time trying to figure some of this stuff out and Dave just acts well you just don't get it. Alvarez is in the unique position now of applying logic and thought not just emotion to everything with AEW. The big issue is still that he has friends there. He has people that he knows and sources so you know you have to balance what you see versus what people are fucking feeding you. But let's go to this from the Brian and Vinny show November 10th. We'll stop this along the way and talk about what they're talking about. Match where's on and every now and then Vyce is like ahhhh he puts his head in it he's just conflicted. I'm just like fuck me dude. I hate the storyline because what the fuck do we know about this story? It is TV viewers okay not people going on social media and not people on Twitter. What the fuck do we know as viewers about this storyline? Okay we know that Roddy wants to recruit the beast okay we do know that we've seen it. Roddy keeps wanting to recruit the beast. We know that he calls him Frank. Thankfully he stopped doing that but as television viewers we have no earthly idea why they keep calling the beast mortos Frank. Wait a minute stop it stop it stop it. Let me stop it because we've not seen any of this on dynamite at all. Well obviously it's rampage or collision or something but the point is they're calling ol' rigger mortos Frank. Would that be like if you called Abdullah the butcher Larry? Now it said Brian it Brian Alvarez said that they're trying to recruit him which I guess would mean into the undisputed kingdom but isn't he a member of the people that Jake? Yes just got from but but they were never with Callis but then Callis signed him so he could sell him to Jake? That's right with LFI. Why are they together? LFI know. LFI know but let's go back to this audio here. I know okay I know that the beast mortos joined LFI but Dave tells me apparently getting this from Tony Khan that beast is actually he's not a full fledged member he's like a he's some fucking I'm like the fuck are you talking about? This doesn't count if Tony told you off air like we don't know he's in LFI dude he's not a junior member he's not on fucking probation he's a fucking member of LFI so apparently he's conflicted. So wait a minute wait a minute again wait is so now Dave is defending the angles because Tony has explained it to him on the phone at some point even though nobody said this on the actual television program where people would know? Well that's the other interesting thing if Dave Meltzer and Tony Khan were talking you think they'd be talking about what's going on with Moxley, MJF, Darby, the Bucks, Omega, anything with them not oh let's talk about the Roddy Strong beast mortos thing. They're there they've gone deep enough in their conversations that it has gotten around to Roderick Strong and Rigor Mortis. Well let's go back to this uh rigoring conversation. Want to be in LFI? I mean he did the fist. Does he want to be with Rod? Why would he want to be with Rod? None of this none of this makes any sense whatsoever and the guy speaks no English so like how do they communicate with him? He speaks beast. It's just stupid. He speaks beast. Like Roddy's supposed to be a babyface but he's being a dick to the beast but then like he want I'm god I hate this storyline so here's the story. Am I missing anything? The story of this specific match Edward? I got one more thing. Okay. Forget everything I just talked about just what we saw on television so beast is conflicted throughout the match. Okay well he's conflicted to get to the end and he gets in with a jumping knee and pimp. Well that's the uh the first clip and apparently this is some of the action we're missing on either collision or rampage I'm not certain. Boy it sounds so scintillating but also now they've got they've got Alvarez about ready to jump off the fucking cliff. They've about run him crazy trying to understand this shit. By the way I want to see that match where every time Roddy tries to do anything the beast doesn't lock up and just goes all right well and by the way he did make a good point that hold on and then we'll get to the rest of it but he did make a good point that well Taven and Bennett never even speak and you'd never see him on the main television show except when they're standing around with the group and so we don't know but Roddy is the most dickish alleged now babyface that uh along with Adam Cole who formerly the devil that all four of them want to get on MJF and just beat the piss out of him four on one what baby faces they are. Well let's now go to another babyface Dave Meltzer speaking with Brian Alvarez on Wrestling Observer Radio the next day. Now Alvarez got a little a little adamant about his displeasure with this thing is he gonna go full bore on with Dave Meltzer and tell him how he feels about this and again it sounds like this had come up before somehow so here is Wrestling Observer Radio from the 11th of November. So so so we have another team that is teasing a breakup correct yeah correct so we're at Ruch and Mortis teasing a breakup like later in the show. Well yes okay now listen. Hold on what's that? Yes! He was ready to because as soon as he brought up Mortos he's like oh I'm ready to jump on this shit. I got infuriated the last time you tried to explain this to me. Yeah. Roderick Strong and the Beast Mortos. Yeah, that is. Mortos is he's just stricken. He's so sad he can't decide what he wants to do. Roderick Strong says Beast we needed you where were you when we needed you and this beast is conflicted. I'm like why is this beast conflicted? He's with LFI. Why do why would we care like why does he want to be with Roderick Strong? We don't know it's never been explained. They never even explained why he's called Frank. They just call him Frank. I'm just watching this thing and because the story... Well everyone everyone has a first name. They just don't use it in wrestling all the time. Because this story is... You know he's a lawyer too. God help me. You know he's a lawyer. I don't know he's a lawyer because they never told us that on television. I'm watching this in an angle where they presume that I know that he's like what did you tell me that Tony said he's like he's not officially in LFI he's a like a what? He's he's he's he's still being recruited by Roderick Strong in the Interspeed Kingdom. And he was. He's in LFI. They're telling him to forget about this guy. Well thank you. So anyway the beast is so like strict. Well let me stop it for a... He's so fired up yet let me stop it for a moment. He's gonna he's gonna hurt himself trying to end me. What about Dave? Well his name is Frank. What the fuck? Everyone has a first name. Go tell that to the crusher. I mean sometimes people don't have a first name. Yeah yeah did anybody call the crusher Reggie over here? The fuck? And he's a lawyer. There's another twist to the beast more than what he's not picked up on a dynamite that apparently he's not just a beast he's also a beast attorney. May Higgy think he's a small town Buffalo attorney? Let's go back to this uh the remaining seconds of this scintillating conversation. Freakin with remorse or whatever that they have basically a shitty match. Actually I thought the match was pretty good. Bro by Roderick Strong beast morto standards they could have a match 500 times better than this. They could have had a better match. The whole match is beast going oh he can't decide what he wants to do. I'm like I know what I want you to do beat this guy's ass and then he'll make a big comeback. He was he was beating his ass. I mean he was just he was going pretty hard on him. You know what you to me made no sense it's like you know like that's animal cruelty. Yeah he wants to be his group. Why are you beating his ass so bad? Yeah you want you want to be you want to be on our team and then you have a well if you don't you know let's let's have a match. You're like wait if you're creating why do you want to have a match with him? I didn't like this match. Too much too much rigmarole. I like the match. We're supposed to be in the middle of something with Roderick Strong. Well that's the end of that there. Yeah what a way to get hey I'm gonna kick the shit out of you until you agree to join our group. What? How does this come up in conversation between Dave and Tony? You know it could have been about three o'clock in the morning and they're still anxious to talk more wrestling and Dave said you know I was trying to explain to Brian Alvarez about this important angle you're doing with rigor mortis and Roderick Strong and Tony took about 45 minutes to fill him in. Yeah maybe that's it. Whoo. Dave's maybe contributing ideas to this wonderful program. Who knows? Well he seems to understand it better than the not only the general population and all the viewers but the reporters that are trying to cover it so he must have some input in that. Maybe Dave's booking Rampage. You know it's important to know Rampage and Collision have seen their numbers crater. We've heard multiple times in the last few months. I mean you tell me if I'm wrong the lowest number in the show's history. Yeah I mean we don't even because I mean why we could you know cover Ragtown Championship Wrestling in Bay Point Mississippi but you know we have to stick to the main things that at least most of the people see but they're down in the 100 something thousands in prime time on on poor old TBS or TNT whichever one these fucking things are on. Should MJF reach out to the Beast Mortos? Well it seems like everybody else is. He's the most popular son of a bitch around. Everybody wants him. Where's Jake? He got sold to Bill of Goods didn't he? What the hell was that? What was that? He got three wrestlers he's never been with ever again. Well but here's the thing we hadn't seen him in what two years on television he shows up as the manager of record of Lance Archer to trade him to Don Callis in exchange for these three Mexican fellows that Don Callis never had anything to do with right and then we've seen the Mexican fellows but we've never seen Jake again. Well we will stay up to date on this story and follow up with any appropriate measures or call some kind of state home for these people. I think that's the appropriate follow-up is there some kid there's child protective services is there a podcaster protective services that we could call for the way poor Brian Alvarez being treated over there. We said it a while back he was going to come to the dark side he was going to start saying the truth and realizing it and he has so a lot of that language sounds familiar. Do you hear the latest about Kota Ibushi? Uh I saw something on Twitter that people were trying to argue to whether he had a staff infection a band-aid or a giant pimple on his shoulder. Whatever it was it didn't look like it should be something that someone should have rolling around on a canvas. Yes. Unlike WWE I don't know if the promotion there was going to change the canvas in between every match but I have an article here and a couple people sent this to me it's from Tokyo Sports actually. Marvelous Kota Ibushi in heated battle at Nagayo 60th birthday festival that's Chigusa Nagayo. It's not strange that his injured right leg could end at any time. Now this is translated of course. Okay apparently there's a few interesting key points. Partially this is the partial translation ladies and gentlemen. Once again Kota Ibushi who signed to AEW Kota Ibushi 42 affiliated with the US AEW celebrated the memorial of the charismatic Chigusa Nagayo 59 of the women's professional wrestling group Marvelous. Marvelous you look marvelous. He participated in Nagayo's 60th birthday festival at Karakin Hall to celebrate her 60th. I just started just since she was 59. Maybe they well let me finish to celebrate her 60th birthday on the eighth day of this month. He teamed up with Takumi Eroha and Leo Asaka to face Nagayo Masato Tanaka and Titus Alexander. Wait a minute hold back up now. Chigusa Nagayo is a 60 year old woman wrestler. Yeah she started when you started. And she's in a six person tag match against three guys with two guys as partners. Well one of them I'm guessing I don't know who Takumi Eroha is maybe that's the woman on the side with Kota and Leo Asaka but after 10 minutes into the match Ibushi finally faced Nagayo and they glared at each other for a while. Yes because one is a 60 year old fucking woman and the other one has just had both of his feet amputated. While the two finally approached each other they put their four heads together and engaged in back and forth shop battle. After that Ibushi received a knee kick from Nagayo and was tightened up with an Achilles tendon hold causing him causing him to ride in agony. Still after 15 minutes Ibushi hit Titus with a dragon suplex to gain the momentum and finally hit Titus with a Kamagoye for the three count. Who is that Ibushi said this is the Kamagoye is that a blood instrument of some kind or what hitting with the fucking Billy Club. What Ibushi said that this was her second time competing in a woman's group. Wait a minute Ibushi said this was her second translation I'm guessing something is lost here in the translation. Yeah apparently you know that's the problem and people won't admit that the whole Japanese wrestling scene gets lost in the translation over here. Ibushi said this was her second time competing in a woman's group the only time being the stardom Ryugo tournament in April 29 2013 where Ayaka made her debut. When asked why she decided to participate again I mean he the translator Ibushi said no take it the way you want. Here's a translated quote AEW will be issuing visas again from next year but I feel like the Japanese pro wrestling world is somehow declining so I want to help lift it up that's why I'm doing everything for free. By having a fucking match with a 60 year old woman that's why I'm doing everything for free this time. What? That's the reason not because Tony's paying you. Wait a minute no no no no no no no I'll stop here but you can't. No no no no no no no no no no no nobody can fuck Tony like that nobody can fuck Tony like this guy. This guy signed a contract with AEW because he's best friends with Kenny Olivier and so Tony signs him up for at the time it was certainly it was a million dollars a year one million dollars but a lot of fucking money and when he's Tony signs the guy he promptly goes out and breaks or blows out the tendons and ligaments in or whatever he did a variety of things both of his fucking feet. On someone else's show on someone else's show. On shows in Japan and that's he never actually starts the official work for the official contract that he signed and Tony has paid him to go have double ankle surgeries and recuperate or retuperate or vituperate all this time and now he's telling people that he's going to work in Japan for free to help their business over there and why not because this sucker in America is sending him more money than he'd make there to begin with to do nothing. Tony Abushi wants to know if you're okay with him working a big retirement show a big anniversary show. Oh who is it Tenru retired a few years ago and Muda's not wrestling. Chigasan Nagayo. Well let me go back to the article here Jim. He injured his right leg when he faced Marifuchi at Noa Ariake on January 2nd this year. He was diagnosed with complex damage to the lateral ligaments of the right ankle accompanied by a rupture of the right tibiofibular ligament ligament ligament although he returned to the ring at Gleat that's a promotion. He returned to the ring at Gleat in July. That's the noise that's the noise that they make when the refrigerator jacks gives him the bonsai drop Gleat although he returned to the ring at Gleat in July. I just can't hear that. He is not yet in perfect condition. Oh you think because he's 40 something years old. 42 and just when you think Marvelous is the worst name for a promotion Gleat. Here's a quote from Ibushi to wrap this up. My legs are at their limit and it could end at any time. I wanted to keep going before I can't do it anymore. So I decided to compete today. I'm really at the limit but I want to contribute to the world of professional wrestling before I end my career so I'm currently appearing in various places. He's not coming to see somebody hit the wall. My fucking legs could break off and stick up my ass at any given point people so get your tickets now. If they help us sell it. Well today today his legs fall off. Find out. He's splayed out flipping and flopping and a breeze. That's when you'll know that I but no mention of ending his career. Where the guys paid him the million dollars. The best way to get people to forget your legs about the fall off is have a big gaping wound on your back. How the fuck is he wrestling with that. That's what. Oh god damn it. This guy may be the dumbest human being on the planet. He'll slip more. That before we start talking about his goddamn dramatic situation with his amputated legs. You were talking about the giant carbuncle that no there's pictures still frames of him in this video where again some people said oh it was a bandaid that was flopping around on his back but it looked. I've had a lot of band aids in my life. I've never seen a bandaid that looked like that. It looked like some kind of imagine a zit that had reached the proportion of a fucking billiard ball. Yeah the next new company over there pro wrestling Mercer. But the thing is if it was what it looked like I can't see how that it wouldn't have just popped and because I think it put somebody's eye out. So I thought or some kind of goddamn tumor or whatever the fuck but you would thought you would have thought that if it was as bad and here's what I was going to say under normal circumstances with normal people you would have thought that if it was as bad as what it looked like that he would have been all taped up with a variety of that because they tape their own shoulders up just to support the muscles. How about to cover up a disgusting repugnant gaping fucking wound of some description. That's what I was going to say but he might not be normal. What are you laughing at? The quote of the year is definitely my legs are at their limit and it could end at any time. Gleet. You know what? I've limited days they need to buy that company and book the whole thing to oppose Jey Uso. Yeet versus Gleet. Yeet versus Gleet. Yeet. Gleet. Yeet. Go ahead finish. You know the idea I only have so many matches left in me so I better go work this six man match at Caracan Hall for Gleet against Chickas and Nagayo. Yes. It's lucky he wasn't Dump Matt Zomoto that Merse Pimple would have. But anyway were we talking about. You know what you were talking about the reviewer Nakamura and we talked about him compared to some of the other Japanese wrestlers that ended up here in America in the last few years with AEW and again Abushi was built up look good in WWE for that Cruiserweight tournament when he was still in shape showed up again completely out of shape and everything he did looked like shit after they built them up and that every fan of his was like oh well that was you know one-time jitters he's never been in a cage before whatever the fucking excuses were and then every time you saw him after that everything he did looked like someone in slow motion nothing looked good. Well remember when he and Kenny couldn't even hit their double backflip moonsault run to the turnbuckle thing I put that backwards I guess but who gives a shit it we're kidding already have landed on the guide he's still trying to clear the top rope or over on the other side but and then he went back home the Japan blew up both of his legs I mean it's incredible it's just the guy that did the grasshopper backward knee bend on Twitter a number of years ago and now he's being paid to go work small in these shows and spread his staff infection wherever he can well maybe he'll be on Texas stadium all the best to Chagusa I hope you enjoy your retirement she probably came back to his legs what the fuck has happened to the business all right that means it's time to move on so now it's just moving on music moving on moving right along with the of course the theme to the great brian last jim let's get some more questions here before we wrap things up here's a question that was sent via the cult of cornet facebook group from joe morris where do all the dead birds go billions upon billions of birds in the world shake a tree and they'll be there look in the sky likely to where do all the dead birds go so jim you're mr nature what are your thoughts on this question they go they fall down and go boom you've never what's his name joe joe has never joe has never joe morris long and seen a bird laying on the ground it happens most of the time they probably drift into unoccupied areas of of the world but but yeah you can walk around out in the woods and you'll see a dead bird every so often so it happens but but then they don't stay there long because then you got your turkey buzzards and your vultures and your other big birds that haven't you ever seen brian well you got every time you see road kill up there in new jersey there's birds eating on it right not every time sometimes i mean usually it's by the side of the road that's where you see it's fresh it's fresh bird if it's in the middle of the road the birds aren't stupid that's why i think got dead because it was in the middle of the road but on the side of the road or out in the fucking yard or whatever the big birds are going to come down and eat the little bird the big birds have come down and eat a fucking rabbit oh i found a rabbit last summer part of a rabbit out in the yard that after it had been somebody's dinner but uh which part it's it well there was various parts of it but a lot of parts were missing you couldn't really have reassembled anything but it's it's part of the cycle of life that's what happens harley found these moles i've got i've been ever since they started putting a subdivision in across the road from me they ran the moles from that 26 acres all over on this side of the the road and now i've got moles everywhere and i'm always tamping down mole runs while i'm walking harley but she found one of them last summer again it was just with its feet up on its back in a mulch bed laying there deader than four o'clock deader than kelsie's nuts and i don't know what happened to it but something happened and then it wasn't there the next day because something came along and ate it it's the cycle of life so in conclusion jim where do dead birds go in bigger live bird's stomachs or tigely raccoons or minks or coyotes or things of such of that nature jim let me get a few more topics and questions here this week this was sent to cornydrivethroughgmail.com by les windslow these are the korean wrestling awards now i'm sorry what well specifically the south korean pro wrestling forum awards i guess is a forum for the south korean pro wrestling well now hold on hold on narrow this down is it a is it a forum for south korean pro wrestlers or a forum of wrestling fans in south korea who are watching do they have pro wrestling in south korea what the f**k is going on here i'm not sure i've attached translated results for both best and worst if you're curious how south korean internet marks think of the current american product okay well there we go so it's the south korean fans viewing the american product yes i am curious i have the best and worst list you want the best of everything or the worst of everything give me let's see what they consider the best best male wrestler kody roads okay best not oh shocking i mean i'm just that's not a shocking thing to say best female wrestler live morgan well i agree less but they haven't gone off the beam too far best team of the year solo secoa's bloodline well okay not technically a tag team it's a group but you know okay best heel of the year solo secoa they're liking the bloodline over there a lot aren't they i don't know if i wouldn't talk about uh drew mack entire or someone of that nature but again best babyface best worker and best champion of the year kody roads they really like kody um best match of the year roman raids versus kody roads wrestle lady of 40 best moment of the year kody roads finishes the story okay did dusty ever do a south korean tour best segment of the year rock and roman and kody and seth at wrestle lady of 40 kickoff okay but here's some other ones few to the year best few to the year c m punk drew mack entire can't argue with that really best catchphrase of the year i believe in joe henry okay that one came out of the fucking sideways but uh well i guess there you go but maybe the the south korean fans know more about american wrestling than the american wrestling fans that pick mack of shaka bobby for the best wrestler well this is not an outrageous list so far best newcomer of the year jacob pha too best mic worker c m punk boom best non wrestler paul avec can tony kahn get the south koreans to book his his program well that's i mean it keeps going on from there let's go to the worst list besides a little kody favoritism i you know you can't argue with a lot of that worst male wrestler john moxley oh god damn they are more in tune than the american fans worst female wrestler mercedes monay boo what in the world worst tag team of the year the young bucks worst baby face of the year john moxley worst heel of the year john moxley worst champion of the year i w g p champion john moxley worst worker of the year john moxley john moxley worst match of the year jimmy versus jay uso wrestlemania you you hated that match you can't disagree there i i hated it but i wish moxley had gotten a clean sweep worst moment of the year john moxley choking brian danielson with a plastic bag worst feud of the year brian danielson versus john moxley worst catchphrase of the year death jitsu john moxley worst newcomer kazushka okada worst mic worker of the year kazushka okada worst non-wrestler of the year tony kahn most overrated of the year john moxley most underrated of the year chad gable the i don't know what this means christian awards chad gable dead from why it's six debut i don't know what that means worst move of the year is it because christian is always talking about people's fathers being dead oh maybe i guess something like that maybe the translator didn't worst move of the year john moxley sleeper hold worst gimmick of the year john moxley worst news of the year aw releases all in london security footage worst theme of the year it's our moment di y's theme song worst brand of the year aw worst event of the year aw wrestle dream 2024 worst featuring john moxley worst part time wrestler of the year adam cope copeland worst booker of the year tony kahn worst main event of the year brian danielson versus john moxley wrestle dream worst face turn adam cole worst heel turn john moxley botch of the year adam page sneaks out early during j white versus christian cage on dynamite and finally worst entrance john moxley so what are your thoughts on the popularity of john moxley in south korea well john more importantly what do you think about your popularity eh i don't have any witty combats because i didn't know i was gonna sweep the fucking awards i like the fact tony i'd like to thank pax song nam oh my god for representing me in korea uh you know they did they have a better handle on the wrestling business than the american fans do unfortunately over there in south korea are these leo garibaldi's grandchildren or something it does make you wonder about the international thoughts of non wwe wrestling you know there's a lot of parts of the world where either their first exposure to wrestling or the first wrestling that looked major league was wwe and it still is if they're watching aw and then you're watching a spectacle of wwe again it shouldn't be a surprise if we they're basically voting the same way if this is real and i have any reason to doubt it because apparently other people will send it to they're voting the same way a lot of people here in the states would but boy i'll tell you what they love them some kodi and they don't like no moxley well there are the south korean wrestling awards for worst lunch anything john moxley eats they love kodi they hate moxley worst illness anything moxley has a bunch of the listeners have sent over several different articles from different places all centered around and they open one of these action bronson i don't know if you remember action bronson he is a way of action bronson was one of the celebrities that they had do a match in aw at one point well he does hooks theme music okay entrance music theme music like he's batman yep well he's got a hook signal that's right but he did the hooks in the song action bronson that's right and and he was the one he was a bigger than all the boys and it was handled himself pretty well from what i remember and that was a local show local i mean uh it was a new york show and he's a new york guy here's some quotes he was on the ariel hawani show that's usually where trouble starts here's the quote asked if he wanted another match he was dismissive and then he said you know what they do they don't call you back i never got called back there was an angle there i'm ready right now i'm ready for whoever oh my god ariel asked him you know what he thinks now he thinks he can come in and be a contender very ariel asked him if he liked being backstage at aw at first he said yes and then here's what he said actually no i enjoy the act i don't like the the backstage is weird over there it's just weird it was just like everyone's clicky you could tell it was weird vibes so wow even even the the novices can kind of pick up on this shit if you have a celebrity and we've seen this time after time just the last few years alone with wwe if you have a celebrity that really wants to be a part of it you end up using them it kind of works they're over and they're willing to do more and they set up an angle you don't call them you ghost them to well well ghost them like they're jelly and a tella but hold on here now because this guy also sounds like he's there well i'll go in there and you know i could have a pay-per-view match with so-and-so if we don't know how he was to deal with it i'm not trying to defend by any means the talent management skills and etc of the aw company as a whole over there but does this guy sound like it it does he realize it was kind of a gift because he's a celebrity or does he think he's ready to be a championship wrestler i don't know but again bad bunny yeah but i remember bad buddy being better than bad bronson but we didn't know that you know i mean that that's a case of someone who was a wrestling fan and wwe embraced it and he ended up really involved for a while there i'm sure he'll be back at some point you can tell you can not only if you work the guy out just to see where he's at physically but attitude-wise and the way he but you've got to have a professional organization in place before you can expect the the amateurs to come in and understand what the protocol is i have some things here from the observer website article on this but there's no actual quote in his loan match in september 2022 as part of rampage grand slam it wasn't even on dynamite on rampage grand slam he teamed with hook against matt minard and angelo parker during the interview at aerial hawani he intimated he wanted to do more in the match but that his opponents didn't want to take some of his offense uh like a top rope splash okay okay more face buster oh yeah well hey come on bust my face bronson see that's what i'm talking about these but they because it's such a hate kids let's put on a show atmosphere these people think they can come in and oh i'll do this and that because it's all you know and i'm sorry but a lot of guys even some of these guys from the indies don't want a 280 pound fat fuck it's never wrestled before to jump off the top rope on their fucking bodies well bronson a big wrestling fan said he trained for sure he is said he trained for eight weeks for the match at arthur ash stadium in queens new york with taz and hook okay by the way guys used to train longer than eight weeks in ovw to get on on the show at the flea market and this guy trained for eight weeks to be at the arthur ash stadium on televich he said he was in the ring for two to three days a week and he was training on the off days and that mjf even showed up on some days he 100 wants to wrestle again and that if he gets the call for a big show he's there how old is this guy he also intimated he would wrestle for wwe and mention fellow musician and occasional wwe wrestler bad bunny as an opponent okay so maybe this guy's just setting up his own ankles all over the place that's what i'm saying bunny versus bronson book it now baby i don't know i i get gas from all these people did you ever have that happen to you you leaned in a little bit to someone who was a local celebrity or just a celebrity or anyone like that and they got too close they wouldn't leave you know what i mean yes yes there was one here in louville it was an attorney that was the son of an actually well thought of attorney but the son was nuts and but he had a sheriff's deputy or he was some law enforcement official i don't want to misquote it now that had kind of i think had some intimate knowledge of wrestling on a limited basis and oh this guy can sell a bunch of tickets and we could do this and that because the lawyer was a mark too so i put him on the show and they wanted to the lawyer wanted to tackle the cop afterwards and do something i said no you can't do anything to look like shit don't so he did it anyway it didn't look like shit he tackled the guy and fell off him and they did some phony ass bullshit when he got back i was screaming cussing at him and he was standing there slack jawed like i can't believe somebody's talking to me this way i said you fucking idiot you fucking exposed you god damn entire business we said don't do anything physical what the fuck i said i'm gonna i'm gonna walk over here when i come back don't be here i'm gonna fucking kill you and i turned around and left i think one of the boys said i think he's serious and he got mad and fucking left but the guy and the cop wasn't a bargain because he had his own entrance music on a cassette or a cd whatever the format was then years ago he brought it in it even had a voiceover on the entrance music what he is here he has arrived officer yancy i've kept this i kept this cd he is the law enforcement officer of the year and he served on this thing and he is he is here and he has arrived and i i'm god damn it i'm like we sold 250 tickets but fuck anyway that was that was that yeah what was your question oh sorry he has arrived got he has arrived and he is here he did both he arrived and got here uh my question was about guys who got very close to the business so wouldn't leave well there there you go there was there was one of them all right well jim let's get another one left after our custody they had the two segments of the night that got the most derision coming up immediately afterwards one right after the other and i felt bad for the first one for part of it because what have we been saying about production meetings apparently they didn't have one for this show or at least they they just they they they went ahead and improvised this next segment tony shavani was at ringside with at the railing with our friend ash avilson who's been on this program and was more eloquent to say the least here maybe it's because tony's a rotten interviewer but this was one of the most awkward things i've ever seen and i don't know why of some of it because they're promoting queen of the ring they had a bunch of their talent at the premiere in los angeles i'm sure tony flew them all to la should have flown some in the Louisville we had more fun but they're promoting the movie queen of the ring in theaters near you folks starring jim cornet and others and so obviously this wasn't like a goddamn oh hey look if we didn't know they were here let's just grab this interview and it fell apart they had to kind of know they had to tell tony you're going to go over you're going to interview ash avilson and kelly burgland and demaris lewis give these people some names tony was at ringside there's the three of them standing there ash and the the two young ladies and tony says we're here with ash avilson the director of queen of the ring and the girls kind of you know light up since they're on camera also and tony looks over at him says oh hey girls nice to see you here and turn back to ash like they were marks from the front row he didn't know who they were or were they were not supposed to be in this he didn't know their names so then he goes to ash and ash is trying to plug the movie but clearly he wanted the girls to be able to say something and it looked like he maybe tried to save that maybe did tony forget their names he just blanks so he didn't introduce them so ash introduces them he knows their names but he fumbles the pitch on asking him a question and he's all just taking girls and then god the first thing the young lady god and then these are actresses now take it girls and then she says the worst thing you could say it girls oh she took it all right she took it demaris lewis who plays babs wingos one of the three sisters babs wingo ethyl johnson and marva scott i met um my gosh they were three sisters they were the pioneer african-american lady wrestlers i just saw the video with cosper um yes and i forget which one there one of their daughters was there i forget it was marva i think it was marva's daughter yeah well anyway demaris lewis plays babs wingo but she says one thing i've learned about pro wrestlers y'all know you're gonna win before anybody else does so thanks for teaching me that and tony shavadi was just frozen also when ash said take it girls she had grabbed the microphone tony had let go of it but she grabbed it and pulled it in so she go first and you know you just know that she had had rehearsed that and had thought this is such a profound thing to say because in her head she's thinking y'all are the first ones that you know you're gonna win before anybody else does and you've gotten you prove it to him she's trying to be inspirational right you're the first ones that know you're gonna win but what she does is just take a goddamn diuretic shit all over kayfabe on a wrestling program and the fans on twitter and everybody else were what is that she didn't she was proud of that she didn't have any idea what she had done and then before the main event right before the main event you get on right before the main event which hey if she hadn't exposed the business then the main event would have the first thing i learned from the wrestlers is that it's fake thank you you know that that's one of the first inside insults i learned when i got in the business it was from the boys in the tennessee territory they'd go you would go up to a fucking guy you'd say i learned to work by watching you wrestle that was a profound fucking insult your shit was so see-through right he had to be there but anyway then young young nel stewart spoke and then when she finished and she was a bit more pleasant and non non uh controversial and then tony was ignoring them pretty much as they were talking and then turned to pitch out and you could see ash hold his hand up and he all he said one more thing i want to say and he just come tony completely pitched out like get the fuck out of this and cut it was the most awkward thing on everybody's part ash talked for an hour and a half on this program and didn't fumble anything he couldn't make it 20 seconds on this show these girls looked like they were interlopers on a live interview that just wandered out of the crowd by from the way the announcer treated them one of them when they did get to speak exposed the business on a fucking wrestling program and then the announcer cut the poor fucking director of the goddamn movie they're plugging off and just said fuck it we're out of here and that's the last you saw of any of god damn it it was an all-timer of a segment right there nothing went right it should have been a layup hey we got a few actresses in the director ring sign let's do something nice to promote this movie they've all of a sudden been all over the movie and then they go out there and the girl exposed if you'd like if you'd like to see something similar done with absolutely no conversation or pre-planning ahead of time or a production meeting go to official jim cornet on youtube and i'll be with some of the same people going for several minutes without anybody embarrassing themselves give anything you want to say yeah the first thing i learned is they know who's gonna win oh what was ash did we need to get ash back on the show what was that other thing you wanted to say yeah what was it ash what were you gonna tell shimani are you gonna say you're an idiot what were you gonna say it's gonna be the biggest cliffhanger since baby doll's envelope on dusty is what what did ash evilsson want to finally figure out to say when you cut him off fab's wingo says wrestling is fake if you can't trust fab's wingo to be on the level who can you trust oh what a segment oh god second part of this it was it may it may be in the running with is this open mic night bitch kind of i don't think it went the way all the people at vile thought it was gonna go well um so mvp and bobby lashley and shellton benjamin are still standing in the ring when suddenly out comes brian keith and big bill and they they have earlier in the one of the break things jericho has told them they need to prove themselves to him some of this business whatever the fuck but now they come out and say well well they were trying to say what the intention of this segment was to say was that they were gonna try to put themselves over and make a challenge for a tag team title shot against the hurt syndicate but god damn it as soon brian keith was the first one to speak and as soon as he had made like one declarative statement mvp just bowled up a giant wad of shit in his hand and flung it i rate his speed like a fucking major league pitcher right into brian keith's face he just he just he just referred to it for the first of many times as a little bitch and i don't even think he spoke directly at him i think he spoke to his handler big bill about get your little bitch back and then big bill tried to start talking and everything he said mvp again it was like a it was like one of those batting machine things where the guy just stands there with a fucking bat and every time one comes at him he's bam and a bam he he would interrupt what they were trying to say and insult them and sting them they couldn't handle his material and then they're trying to go back to the fucking story and he's like well hurry up you two little bitches i'm gonna have my guys come down and just slap a shit out of him just just in the most dismissive derogatory way possible he allowed them to speak long enough to tell him that they wanted a title shot that any what they walked past them showing absolutely no trepidation whatsoever and said go out here and win a match and you can get a title shot it i'm there's a guy i've never seen a smaller seven foot guy by the time they finished hacking down at redwood and brian keith is a fucking midget anyway and they just made him a little fucking mascot this was like richard prior cutting down a heckler i mean it was just yes every word he got out it was boom boom boom and fucking big bill looks so good i mean he's obviously uh taking all the right vitamins he looks jacked and big and strong maybe never looked better than he does right now and he started with confidence and then he's like yeah he gave red dad was nevertheless he knew there was nothing you could do mvp had a look at his eyes like i'm gonna cut these fucking guys down no matter what and he did and it was amazing and i can't wait to see this match now because i really believe that his guys are gonna kick the shit out of these two and he made me believe and can yes that's the thing that the suspension of disbelief is back in wrestling business i haven't feeling it big bill and brian keith better going along losing streak oh crap anyway speaking of along did brian keith walk into the wrong room what did brian keep brian keith had oh yeah this this has to be some type of personal issue that this fucking guy's apparently overstepped his his boundaries in some fashion and got verbally bitch slapped back down to fucking it was like someone played a practical joke on mvp but like he wasn't gonna go along with it he was just gonna cut it down like who are these guys out here i don't i think somebody was kind of pulling a practical joke on brian keith and big bill send him out there to face the fucking gunnery one of the advice jericho is going to give him now don't come in here get him on me don't go on a cruise with him don't get in the elevator i know this is your show but uh this has been sent to me by a bunch of the listeners i'm very curious your thoughts have you seen what mercedes monay is up to thankfully no but is is it uh is she up to another position somewhere where we can get her off the television on her official website this is the link that's been sent to me let's be text buddies it's an image of her uh seemingly in the middle of her a little dance and it has some examples here someone said hi mercedes is snoop dog really your cousin when did you talk to him last and is a response here he is i saw him in new york city we had dinner and talked fam hi mercedes what are you doing today i'm with my dog trainer trying to potty train bugs bunny mercedes were you really hurting your match with momo 100 her kicks bruised my throat and i couldn't speak for two days now you may be asking yourself what the hell is this what is this for what i was i was about to ask you for just 99 99 a month my super fans have always been my super friends now like friends they could text me directly and privately i'm so excited to finally be able to connect this way sign up and text me now this is exclusive one-on-one personal and private you get a private number that only super fucking private is it when it's open to anybody that will pay is it even hers at ai but you get a private number that only her super fans can use spots are extremely limited so if you want to chat with her directly don't wait make this happen be the first to know with monay magazine wait wait hold on let me what i added magazine it just says monay mag sign up to get exclusive news insights and updates delivered straight to your inbox one full week before they go live on our website monay mag seems to be a different thing the listeners have been dying to know your thoughts on a wrestler or specifically mercedes monay charging a hundred hours a month to a legend text exchange texts with people yes and by the way should we do this this seems like easy money well no because i'm not learning to text for any amount of money if it's ai if we could just get ai jim and ai brian the response well that's what i was about to fucking bring up now it just pumped the brakes how since i'm not a a texture like the kids are i understand it's a big deal to some people but how do you know that it's even her is like like when i've done cameos i can understand that in terms of you know that it's me i am standing there talking to you and we're talking about people that you have told me about whatever they're i mean they may be able to ai that now but i didn't when i was doing the cameos and wouldn't but how do you know that this is the fucking what what are you i'm looking at the uh previous covers the front covers of monay mag hold on let me send you this link i don't know she has a magazine she puts out about herself no idea holy shit how many issues are you are you sending me this uh so that i can puke join the the the club there or or read up on her and it'll change my mind somehow i just need a second person to see this i just sent you a link it should be there shortly well the point to answer my question though there is literally no way you're a texting person you know how it works there's no way that if it's just well you know how this technology works there's no way if it's just text that you can tell that this is the real person that you are no allegedly unless you like writing to even if you're saying like send me a picture yourself it could be like one picture they send to all the fans who are signing up for 100 dollars a pop to the text with alleged mercedes monay i can't get over the fact she has 40 issues of her magazine written by mercedes monay oh no oh wouldn't you know who won the pony oh my god i had no idea wait oh here it is i've got the link mercedes oh jesus christ her name just slides right in she thinks a lot of herself doesn't she it seems so monay no certainly to god these are not all magazines that devoted to her that they have produced somehow well digital magazine i don't think they're printing anything i can't imagine they're printing anything i know what that well who's going to is this an entire i'm afraid to click on it will it cost me anything it won't cost you anything except dignity i'm quick i'm clicked on one of them and her oh issue 19 and then there's more pictures with i guess these are stories what the fuck this is just her and her friends standing next to a tree what is going on here oh it doesn't give you the whole god damn well i guess it hold on and she's really she figured out how to shake down the fans i gotta give her credit it's a picture of her under a tree and uh of one paragraph story that she wrote about her experience under the tree oh well post for you 73 people looked at this so maybe she's not my assistant and i took an uber to this amazing five mile hike when we were finished though we ended up having to walk another five miles to a little motel for help we had no cell service and we're an hour and a half from our hotel so these dumb douchebags hop in somebody else's fucking car and get driven to drive five miles through the woods or to walk five miles through the woods and when when they get finished though they realize well we're five miles out in the fucking woods and they gotta walk another five miles to find somebody that can help them get by an hour and a half back to their hotel oh but the housekeeper's son was so nice he picked me and my assistant up good fucking job her assistant is doing what she assisted with hey that poor assisting a drag on a hike you think she wanted to go on that and drove us all the way back himself having saving us the five hundred dollars we would have had to pay for a car service that's five text messages so wait a minute besides the fact that they just willy nilly went out in the woods on foot five hundred dollars away from their goddamn hotel they get the car with the housekeeper's son who was that anthony perkins at this little town well that's the magazine folks there you go she is like i said certainly figured out how to shake down the fans and unfortunately i'm looking at another one here only 110 post views so she may be producing content but it doesn't mean it's being consumed by more than 110 people i bet you we just got her some attention oh christ wrestle snow days and newbie culture from the same issue you did my team and i were talking about the recent my team my team why do you have a team you don't draw any money she's got a team to get her out of the woods my team and i were talking about the recent hurricane that hit my home state of florida besides coming up with a new side hustle of tornado food delivery i was really grateful that my home was fine during the recent storm this got me thinking about how the weather has affected wrestling shows and traveling to wrestling shows i was reminded of the time when i bailey apollo and a few others literally got stuck in colorado due to a snowstorm we had to stay because driving the six hours that a next town was too dangerous that was rare the term the show must go on was probably written for wrestling because i know no other world that lives up to that notion what that's that's how about the world that it came from show business that's exactly right yeah fuck who is that and and how is this woman constantly stranded in some type of wilderness poor pre-planning leads to piss poor performance all right well i could honestly say i have never been stranded against my will in an environment i've been stranded in a hotel due to weather or things but i've never been stranded out in a goddamn nature against my will just due to poor planning on my part as to where the fuck i was i was thinking while i was thinking about this brian i was thinking while i was thinking about it did i ever tell you the only time that i as a booker in smoky mountain wrestling or when i was on the creative committee and happen to see anything in wcw or ring of honor or o v w whatever the fuck the one time that i can think of that i stopped a match as a booker because i thought somebody was fucked up and nobody was going to stop it but me do you know what have i told you that or do you remember when that was oh i don't know is this another one of those russ mccullough stories no smoky mountain wrestling i brought the moon dogs in larry latham and and folks if you know to look up the moon dogs is all i can tell you and don't stop now who was the other guy well hold on i'm gonna tell you here in a second but for the kids who might not have even heard of the moon dogs look up the moon dogs 80s w w f uh but they basically were over in the memphis territory and in tennessee from the 83 run they had with the fabulous ones all the fucking blood bass and a wild ass shit it was larry latham and randy collie spot and wrecks the moon dogs and then they made somebody with it in the w w f but then in the early 90s larry latham and a couple different partners had come back in memphis and did a program with jerry lawlor and and jeff jarrett and the wild ass matches and the trash cans and the chairs and the bed it it revitalized their business because it's somewhat not for the standard of the time they were doing well but it was like bringing it was pre-ecw actually when you think about it because that meant that those tapes were going around and the moon dog stuff with richard e lee and just oh yeah a variety of moon dogs and it was wild stuff it had two before said whatever the but it it was like bringing the chic in but the chic was too old so now we've got another gimmick it was the gimmick and they were the ones doing it and the baby faces only had to do it when they worked with the moon dogs and that was part of the deal and you it got attention and you couldn't do it too long but anyway so the point is 83 at memphis draw money with the fabs they go to the w w f the name gets out of blah blah blah but larry latham was from god damn somewhere in arkansas near like west memphis or somewhere in arkansas near memphis and he lived there and they had had the early 90s run as i said with lawlor and jeff was in 93 i think he called me i don't remember calling him but he he was pitching the idea of the moon dogs i said larry you got a partner he said well his kid i can't remember what this kid's name was i broke this kid in he can he can do the gimmick i said well i i think i said i can give you all you know 300 bucks a shot for the team which now that's you know like 900 or 1000 dollars today but he said i says that's this phase 150 he said well now you just give me the 300 i'll i'll take care of him it's okay so i'm bringing him in to have a program with the rocket roll express a classic monsters against the my baby faces and then head the moon dogs against ron and don harris the bruise brothers because now you got the baby face monsters against the heal monsters and you know and then it was time to for him to go but when i first brought him in to television point i'm gonna make their deal is they jumped the job guys and they beat the shit out of them and they hit him with chairs and they i'm blowing the whistle i'm their manager and you know everybody's seen that drill it's seen the moon dogs and i booked him against guys that they could just beat up and you know you're working with the moon dogs so it's kind of like in the 80s working with the road warriors you know what's going to happen but there'd been this one guy in morristown tennessee that every time this convenient story that was on the way out of town when we went to the kentucky towns he'd been wanting he been working out law and wanting to get booked every time i saw him he wanted to get booked and finally i called him when you work with the moon dogs on tv okay so i figured at least this old discourage him if nothing else but they're having the match and brian hillbren mark kurtis is the referee it's the tv match one of their i can't remember was the first one they'd done or one of the first ones and i think brian's trying to control the shit in the ring and larry's got this guy out on the on the floor of the uh the high school gym that we're shooting the tv in and larry latham picks up a steel chair just the same kind that you get at home depot no padding no nothing and this guy was always knees in front of him and he just raised it up and hit him as hard over the fucking head as i've ever seen i don't even know how to explain to you the sound or the force or the way it looked or just the guy crumpled oh and i said well shit he's killed him and i'm waving at brian has ringed the bell and brian turns around he's the brides says so if i have to ring the bell just stop it just stop it he's dead he's killed him out because brian i think was still trying not to see all the chairs and jents we wouldn't dequeen it or whatever and he just could bring the bell and in that they still the boondogs are still beating these guys up i don't think that first guy was up yet but they want to do more shit and i'm blowing the whistle for real it's over we're out of time we gotta go we're in break get them and i finally try to get them to settle down and because i'm sure i'm sitting with this fucking guy's got brain that we're gonna have called ambulance here in a minute and i can't remember i said maybe even had to go to the desk and do a promo first right or whatever but as soon as we got back in the fucking locker room i went to i said where's that fucking guy and there he was and he came up to me he said did i do okay mr. quartet you think you could use me again next month oh my god damn i never want to see you again oh my god why are you gonna blame him no i said get out of the business consider yourself lucky no there was no way he was ever gonna may hit him money in a wrestling business and and you know but jesus christ but i stopped the match that i was in as booker because i thought well no that's too much we can't do we've gone too far damn it and i'm just i don't know if i know i'm sure i'll finally give you a shot against a moondaw what did you think was gonna happen well now there's a there's a line across i thought he'd get i thought he'd get a good indoctrination into job dying i didn't know he was going to get fucking brain damage now it was hard to tell from before or after with this fellow if he suffered any ill effects in that department but i didn't want to fucking hasten his goddamn decline but no i didn't see this we remember this was years before ecw ecw also so when i saw the chair shots at poorl boo bradley ball's mahoni was taken and then you know eh but anyway that's what i'm saying is sometimes you gotta i'll tell you another one now that i've just thought of it to be honest with you did i tell you what i called an ambulance on somebody in the manoeuvre match as booker yes no i don't know i hate to laugh because i don't know where it's gonna go but no i don't know this story i was in the goddamn match again but i was also the booker and spoke about wrestling we had i think it was one of the fire on the mountains in johnson city tennessee at freedom hall and it was the ten-man rage in the cage where it was bullet bob armstrong the rock and roll express and two of bob's sons which i'm thinking were scott and steve and it was my guys the the bodies were in it i'm trying to think who else my heels were but and me right and you go in more games rules where you go in one at a time from each team and finally you're all in and blah blah blah and of course i'm going to be the last one in because i'm a scared but anyway what i didn't know until we had the match laid out and the match was going perfectly according to to hoyle but what i didn't know because i was doing promos or whatever earlier in the day it didn't just sit there and stare at everybody's conversation but ricky morton and one of the armstrong boys out of scott or steve were having a debate on because they were both going to get juice in the cage match right but they were having a debate on the best method of the blading process and one of them was favoring once across lightly that was the armstrong while ricky morton was favoring to stick it in and turn and i don't know if they actually got goddamn you know heated over it or whatever but the match is going long and all of a sudden boom is a you know armstrong has got his juice and there's you know things are going on just finding boom ricky gets his and god damn ricky morton starts fucking bleeding like tommy rich after a three-day bender in the omni or something and i'm like fuck it is the matches going on again you know they've got ricky down and he sells he sells like ricky morton have you ever heard that brian that ricky morton sells like ricky morton i've not heard that no so you don't know whether he's fucking dying or not to begin with even if he's not looking like he's ready to pass out from blood loss and finally and sandy scott i'm still at ringside right you know maybe one of the other heels waiting to go in sandy scott comes up behind me and says is he all right i'm not sure why don't you call an ambulance just in case like we're having this conference while all the people are screaming as cage matches going on so sandy goes back in the back and uses one of the pay phones call a fucking ambulance so there's a man losing blood he can't say because you know the thing is it's number one if it's not needed we don't want to have to pay for it but also he can't say one of the wrestlers in the matches bleeding too badly but it hadn't been stopped or whatever the major says there's one of the wrestlers is losing blood hey yanks did he call 911 well he called whoever you cut to call an ambulance in johnson city tennessee in 1990 on a pay phone yet 911 emergency there's a wrestler losing blood wrestler and freedom all's losing blood we need an ambulance so then he walks back past me and he nods like i've called him right and riggy's hanging over the ropes that i mean he's god damn drenched it looks like somebody's turned a bucket of red paint over his head and finally my time has come and i get in there and obviously i'm trying to stay away from bullet bob but it's some way or another the situation is not dire for me now where i can go over and get on top of ricky morton and i get on him i go are you all right yeah i'm fine jimmy have a case and get on me i say well what's up for your god damn gonna bleed out no it's okay so so then i start beating on him and then we finish the match obviously they beat me in some fashion in the end and then we get to the back well now the back the fucking ambulance is pulling up and of course ricky's selling in the locker room or on the way to the locker room and as he gets into locker room he's looking at the ambulance over there so he's kind of covered his head up and then the towel we've got for his blood but the ambulance people come in and they're sandy and they say where's the emergency oh what do you somebody call you guys well they one of the fans must have called they see one of the wrestlers was bleeding but he's all right they must have called you guys from a pay phone or something so we didn't have to pay for the ambulance but it did look it for a minute it looked like it might be necessary so we wanted to have the option and was that too compassionate of a booker a matchmaker i don't know i don't know about that i don't know anyone's ever talked about your compassion as a booker or a matchmaker well see more people up to then anyhow was this were we talking about were we talking about heyman or were we talking about i don't know we originally kind of went from there but all just dangerous stuff and stuff it shouldn't be too dangerous and when do you when do the people in charge have a responsibility to not let people fucking do stupid shit that is not worth the goddamn risk or just set up a pattern of doing stupid shit so that that becomes the norm and then the next people have to do stupid or shit to get the same reaction and and then that's where we are at today after all of this yeah now you know not to really react unless the referee looks really concerned unless the referee drops down quick to get in the other person's face and go you alive oh yeah and and then you know well but at the same time a lot of this shit fools the referees then they're gonna start doing that every time too then they'll drop down a star you alive we'll talk more about the blooper reel when we get to the modern rest all right well let's see about what state we're in right now jim there is a lot going on we have a lot to get to we have some reviews we have the roster review which a lot of people have been waiting for lots of other things happening why don't we start with something that's a bit what the hell's going on with this we talked last week about rick flair and the news that he had launched or was behind the company or aligned with a company called rick flair spirits of all things with a line of rick flair liquor drinks liquor drinks rick flair uh liquors rick flair rick flair sounds like you product some have you had some of the rick flair liquor drinks uh everything from flair bourbon to woosky right when we talked about that there were a lot of people getting in touch about a tweet jim ross has been on social media from at least what i've seen i don't follow him or anything just a few times it's been retweeted over the last few weeks talking about his medical issues and he went in for surgery he came out of surgery yes and and he just actually i think right before we're going on the air has tweeted that he's home from the hospital and you know starting his recovery there uh but yeah we've mentioned a few weeks ago when he made the public statement that he was being treated for cancer everybody's up on that and jim ross has a lot of fans so naturally yeah his fans would want to know what's going on with him especially but something you know as serious as this well in the midst of that rick flair tweeted out jim ross will always be jim ross seeking attention focus on your recovery and then he tagged him in it and a lot of people took that as what the hell is rick flair doing why would he do this was there a smiley face no i don't think rick flair uses emojis or any any type of little uh semicolon uh right parentheses other than him tagging him at the end to make sure he saw it no but that was and that's i heard i heard that i didn't hear it it wasn't spoken i saw that and i was trying to figure out if it was it was it in response to some specific statement or event or remark that somewhat as meh was it in response to something that someone had said or that an announcement that had been made that people were supposed to know what the fuck he was talking about if he then as we will find out here in second claimed that it was taken out of context then what was the context you just blurted something out out in the wild right and nobody if they did misunderstand it from what you minute to be rick why not because we do what you were fucking talking about how did you take it jim ross always be jim ross seeking attention focus on your that's right because people said started retweeting it with the god damn like Jesus guy and i'm like what the fuck and i'm thinking from jim ross's goddamn hospital gurney did he give some kind of interview where he said something about rick that went bam and i'm like then since that apparently is not the case i'm wondering if flair just saw something at some point in time and assume that if he responded to it that at that moment that everybody would know exactly what he was fucking talking about but it just it was the oddest fucking thing i think did they have problems i don't know what the fucking thing when you were with them and again they worked together after that too but when you were with them let's say in 88 89 90 did they have problems did they work well together what the only problem that they had and i've said this many times was that flair viewed jr as being more on jim herds side because jr had to coexist in the office with the fucking raccoon headed asshole and was more tried to be a more amenable or professional or acquiescent or whatever to him then flair who just wanted to say fuck you jump out the window and me too but it was not like that either one of them personally had an issue with each other whatever and as i said i don't know why i don't know what's going on with anybody the last number of years i've i'm over here i try to stay away from these things but that's what flair put out a follow-up tweet that said that he was in some way misunderstood or misrepresented or or whatever and if you read that let's try to figure out how the fuck that that is a thing that could be and actually there's two things here i have the tweet which i believe you're referencing i also have a statement that he issued after that so let's go to here here's the tweet if you can't take a joke from a 76 year old man then you are living life too seriously it was all harmless wait a minute wait a minute should you should you also mention that you're saying that because every word is capitalized yeah that's the rule if it's capitalized we yell it that's the ruso rule when it comes to reading documents yes then you are living life too seriously it was all harmless lighthearted fun just trying to make people laugh and smile what's all those jim ross haters he's trying to make laugh and smile hey i heard jim ross had a surgery for cancer you know i let me go make a joke you're singing attention again ah you know i gotta be honest rick used to be a bit a bit better of a comedian i don't how is that a joke that see that's what i'm thinking is does rick think that he's sending out the meaning that he thinks it is hand telepathically along with these tweets so people would understand it when that was like god damn he's seeking attention for his cancer how did you got cancer seeking attention again whoa well we have another statement here i won't yell this one i just made it clear to the world in an article coming out on sports illustrated by justin barasso that jim ross was on my mount rushmore along with gordon soli gene okerland and jerry lawler that's that's an interesting mount mount rushmore there that's that is an interesting interesting choice of announcers when you're you well he's covering the spectrum that's high praise because it was very difficult for me to leave out tony shavani oh jesus but jim ross and jerry lawler were the greatest tandem ever nobody should be upset because two people have a difference in opinion it happens in life i lost the son he lost a beautiful wife we have a lot in common we were both considered the best at what we do let's leave it alone at that and all the haters can focus on someone else now well wait a minute i think it was alone until you brought it up but besides that ignore the fire i started the fire what what is the what was the difference of opinion or is it everybody has a difference of opinion what he was for cancer and jerry's against it he's sitting at cancer i said that he's looking for attention he said no i have cancer wow it's a difference of opinion what is the difference of opinion you need a second opinion you're seeking attention that's i i'll tell you oh it's the doctor the doctor said i think you're ugly i said i'd like a second opinion okay you're stupid too how you doing jim do you have a good support system well uh the greatest of all time just hold me i'm seeking attention do you think rick should send them a case of woosky or something to to ease the pain or uh i don't know well maybe rick getting the next business he'll get into is an organ transplant service for who organs because you know if you if you've partaken all the rest of the who brand items you're gonna need your liver replaced your kidneys replaced your pancreas your uvula all those things are gonna need to come out and have some somebody else's come in so start now and that way they can start harvesting the organs for the next generation of the woosomers woosomers you can just see jim ross's face like looking at his phone like hey let me scroll what the fuck all right well that's the uh i don't know what we call it the rick flair jim ross feud update it's just a difference of opinion all the haters can focus on something else it was a joke it's it's just you and me and we just disagree do speaking brian of infotainment uh what we examined on on the previous show we did what in the world that poor ol rick flair may have been talking about when he put his foot in his mouth with the tweet to jim ross and trying to analyze what could have brought some statement like that on or what the fuck was going on and we weren't very successful in trying to figure out what why he did it but then he had already kind of apologized for it but now he you told me before we went on the air he said something else and i hadn't had time to read up on this yeah this is a brief update just to uh finish the story that we told on the last show a bunch of the listeners were sending this over rick flair on twitter june 4th 2025 i try to be nice to everybody god only knows that i've spent more money on spilt liquor in one year than people having a lifetime what i try to be wait a minute wait a minute if he was not being nice to everybody wouldn't he give that money to like hungry children how does that one thing go with the other i'm not sure but it started from the beginning i didn't mean to interrupt but i just i i try to be nice to everybody god only knows that i've spent more money on spilt liquor in one year than people have in a lifetime i tried being nice and this is my last message to everyone i've got more money than i've got time go f yourself haters no comment needed live with it actually learn to love it get back to me again when you make three million dollars a year at the age of 76 that's what famous gets famous on caps and by the way i don't recognize anyone in this conversation who is famous so rick flair apparently closing the book on this whole discussion of his behavior a clear and concise declaration to the people that he had a contradictory opinion with their i tried to be nice to you but i make more money than you what or and i spill more liquor than you i like that's right but he spilled more and now he made more money to spend more no he he spent more money on the liquor that he spilled than they made or that they spent on the liquor they spilled god only knows that i've spent more money on spilt liquor in one year than people have in a lifetime just saying okay so now wait a minute now that's what it is that taking that as the grammatically correct statement how much money do you think you've spent in your lifetime on spilled liquor brian oh i spilled for free oh god damn it i've just but just as i don't know how much do you think i have my son of a bitch you know to be very honest with you uh how often do you spill liquor yeah that's the quit that's the thing i don't really have too many occasions where i just spilled drinks oops there goes my drink maybe every now and then maybe every now and then a little drop comes out because you know you're walking with a drink but it's never like i spilled another one let me get another one i dropped another one all over the you see you slosh are you slosh it wasn't me there was the Egyptian if you're walking back and forth in the bar restaurant nightclub whatever you may be a slosh every once in a while there's a joshel a joshel a josh or a joust or a fucking elbow and the ribs and you spill or whatever uh but i don't think that's a big what let's do the math it's like that for the average person the lifetime of spilled liquor could be 72 and 48 cents if that much i guess let's do the math if you buy 20 kamikazis and what were the 1986 prices for kamikazis well let's just use around five five dollars a kamikaze you buy 20 well there's a hundred dollars there's a hundred dollars how much spillage is going to happen from that a dollar's worth well what if what if you're carrying the tray and you're drunk and you spill the whole thing then that could add up ah you think of that mass spillage i think a drink i think a drink at a time that riff like oh i got 20 drosh shit but do you have to charge me yeah we have to charge you we just gave you all those and spilled them everywhere i'm just i just don't know that again i love rick i'm not sure that it's a compelling argument when you have to put your tax return up on the fucking post as part of the argument and defense of something that you said well you know i'm just glad that unlike jim ross rick flayer doesn't look for attention i'm like that dastardly jim ross always looking for attention with his cancer i i hate jr the way he goes out dressed like christmas packages all wrapped up and that horrible fashion sense he's got and and all of the the jr branded products like wings and weed and whiskey and anti-depressants i don't know what's going on i saw jim ross with an iv he'll do anything for sympathy he looked at me as i walked by like he expected me to help him up he tripped on the liquor that was spilled and now some of somebody's gonna use as the headline uh jim ross injured to spit at slipping and rick rick flayer denies intervention that's what he should open next the rick flayer slipping slide it's it's it's fucking kamikaze being got down the water slads if you go down belly first or feet first and on your belly you can drink at the same time nothing said you're for a ride like woosky whoo all righty that well we wish all parties the best in this situation and and a pair rick is basically he said this will be his final word on the subject unless he forgets that this is he said this when you might say something else when you make three million dollars a year at the age of 76 that's what famous gets thought it was 3.6 he said three million a year at the age of 76 oh at the age of seven i thought it was 3.6 at the age of 70 i wanted to get this correct you know we we got to get these facts and figures correct brian you know he's looking at this very important the irs is probably looking at this tweet right but yes it's very important of course and that's a that's a gross now before expensive well brian before we go any further with the program i'm having something is coming across the news desk here over at the castle this is from a fellow a fellow named ralph jackson on twitter has sent me do you have your and tody ooo and nokey keychain there with you that you're trying to play the music because he has given us some information on these models of these collectibles and how that they might be operated oh that's the beginning of the itchy knee sanda chant and then of course the famous tagada and i've seen some of these people with their guesses none of them have gotten to say hold it down here's me holding it down no they say there's a button or a pressure point somewhere there's no pressure point or no listen listen to me listen to me listen to me i've got an expert here it's trying to tell you you're just all fucking head up over nothing it's got a impact activation since it's themed around a wrestler it might have a motion or impact sensor you try slapping or tapping the face head area moderately hard like in nokey's famous fighting spirit slaps okay i'm not too aggressively to avoid damage i'm slapping the out of this thing he's whoa no that was a scream you know what's something i get slap him again he'll scream again he'll scream like a bitch slap him slap him in the face there was just a scream there did you hear that it yeah no nothing it just hit him kick him kick it kick it some more now i will say users report this works on some versions but it could drain batteries faster if overused now it's fucking big there is also what there's also some other options here now oh yeah because the the toy could be defective which is a common issue with these awaya produced items as many ebay and collector listings note non-working sound even a new condition you might need to contact a toy repair specialist or look for replacement parts online okay let me just jump in real quick i when i got this i got three of them there's three different ones i said i'm opening one of them because i want to hear it and of course the batteries were dead didn't do anything i replaced the batteries i fixed the corroded areas because parts of it had been corroded from 1998 yes and the music plays it's just one every i've heard it at least six times but just not never on the air no you hear these these songs play but no one else can hear them is what you're saying the pressure point if i push from his head what's that i'm pushing it so hard his legs are bending wait a minute now hold on here's another one try holding it for two to three seconds to trigger the song one two three four oh see fuck it god damn now the bin should i open one of the other ones i was gonna keep the other two closed do i need to open one of the other ones fix them oh yeah because they're faberge eggs and if you open it it'll ruin your children's retirement i mean i didn't think these anoke things would be worth a lot of money i just figured why open it if i already have one open in a white robe because the one you got opened doesn't work now you just i didn't know you had three of them now you're just wasting all our times me and ralph jackson over here do i give up on this one and open another one is that what you're suggesting i think you ought to throw that one out the fucking window well that's not gonna let the lawnmowers run over that'll teach him you've already slapped the shit out of it now listen the bottom thing that you push it's the base of the bottom of this and it feels like you could kind of like shift it up or down or left or right or press in the middle but i don't everything does the same i'm not telling you what to do with antonio and okie's bottom you can shove it or twist it if needed or slap it or do whatever you need to do all right well this is a great segment the mystery continues i was just trying to give you i didn't mean for you to just go completely insane there i just was trying to give you some information here you might have been able to use in some reasonable fashion well can can we added like it just jumped off a range there she tries to just screams now that's a new one well it's cuz it's all right cool you're away from tiger da and later on it's gonna say my name is antonio and okie and i'm going to kill you try to know out here well why don't we talk about the mellow tones oh would you stop it now for heaven's sake would you stop speaking of chucking things did you chuck the the broken the discombobulated antonio and okie keychain that we have been plagued with for the past it the other day it stopped working when you began slapping it about the head and face trying to make it play that song would you told me to do so you should buy me a new one well i was reading the copy from his name ralph ralph said to do it he said he was an expert i don't know about these things i'm a simple man i'm not a judge keychain expert yeah it broke it broke you broke it uh i broke it well you told me to slap it and now if i push this nothing happens for those of you following on instagram and twitter i posted some photos i have two more ready to go i said i'm gonna have to do that we're getting a song on the air one way or the other so everyone said open the one on the left because the one on the right looks so good you don't want to open that package so i did that i opened the one on the left it's antonio and okie in a red robe black tights blue towel i cleaned the corroded battery port put the batteries enclosed it does nothing however there's a weird thing where if i move the three little batteries around it before it was uh you hear that it's it there's something there there's some life ah there go the batteries i gotta try this again in a minute but there's something there we have found signs of life ladies and gentlemen and uh they aren't just any life they're the life of inoki so we're gonna do what we can see ah there's something it's still just yelling taiga there's still no music but there's something happening it gives me hope that it's doing the same thing the first one did i'm gonna have to open the third one as nice as that package i guess that's the point the pressure the peer pressure the solution is there is there some way you can steam it open or something so you know if anyone out there is a japanese engineer who wants to work on the back end of one of these and take them apart and reconfigure it this fucking thing this fucking but look here you blamed me now here's what i was doing and for the people who didn't hear this particular exchange one worked and you told me to beat it up that was great i was reading i was reading information that was sent in by a guy who apparently knew a lot about this stuff as i said i think his name was ralph and i was reading it to you now if some yeh who named ralph wrote in to say well the best way to treat your fucking broken leg is to cut it off at the hip would you be sawing on it you're why why are you there you go and by the way ralph good job writing a letter and now this guy's throwing you under the bus how do you like that come on everybody that contributes here to the program is open to some form of abuse man this stupid the way i had one that worked and that's the one that's not working but i know it could work so it has to be a way to get it to work and then this one i have to literally play with the batteries while they're in here to get it to do come on tag it off you know if anybody would just clip about the last 30 seconds of brine's conversation i believe that would top the captain quig's statement in fucking the cane mutiny anyway anyway baba was better what was giant baba famous for saying give me that cigar talk to my wife seriously he did can you think of any can you think of any time that you've really seen baba i mean yes he's you know spoken words in the ring but like making a public statement or having a catchphrase or just really making a spectacle of himself in any fashion well a no key was out there screaming look at me well there are compilations of like commercials like giant baba appearing in various commercials and it's kind of like shakilo neal and that like here's this giant star and he looks great but then you hear his voice like you can't even understand the japanese but even if he did it sounds like he'd be difficult to understand yes it's the giant baba one of those things where it would be it's not a it's not a linguistic thing it's more of a fucking sonic thing you know all right well we wish you the best with your keychain brine keep us up to date on that i'm gonna open the other one and i'll let you know this one is there has to be a way to get this it's like the first battery has to be like slightly oh that's number two let's see if we get the third one come on all right this is your show i'm gonna mute myself for a moment fucking tight it off well now wait a minute ladies and gentlemen i can tell you right now that he's taking himself off the air because now he is so obsessed with trying to stick those batteries in and just the right place that he's just complete he might have walked out of the room he might be going to where there's more more sunlight i put it down luckily i have one that already died because i slapped it so i feel free slapping that one now but i gotta remember it hurts my hand every time i do this shit fuck back to you this has been a great show yes back to you let's try this again nope it's just the inch and uh so this is i can't stop it either uh this is unless i rip the batteries out this is the one where i had to put the batteries in and play with them i've got it now that just goes on well i've got it now so the batteries are in here and if i press it i'll never forget where i was ladies and gentlemen mark it down you have you have been witnesses to history it has happened i didn't even have to open the third one what a moment let's see what happens again but it is possible you have been vindicated wow you're like one of these people they've they've fucking freed you from prison after 20 years because of DNA evidence and you were right all along and nobody believed you and you see the other thing is they play like the catchiest most funky part of the song so you hear that you're like i want to hear more of this and then it's taiga and then it never happens again the other version is just you know there's like a chant i don't know if you ever heard the record version of the song it's like hey no key boom by a which has always been amazing like he wrestled ali and he's like i'm stealing the catchphrase from zaire i gotta fuck did that happen ali boom by a watch this i'll have a song then no key boom by a well there it is the key chain is finally but there was the music by who is that music by who would have orchestrated that i don't press it i'm pressing the thing they used to stop it if i pressed it a second time nope this one to go right through it and then and then taiga down and then ah you see there's no rhyme or reason to when the song plays i just want to hear the song again i know it can happen why don't you work on that later on tonight after dark and we're done with this program oh good lord now and never stop it's like perfectly 70s it is a cute little ditty all right well i don't know if i'd use those words but there it is antonio and no key his big return right here on the show uh jim real quick before we that was long term storytelling too it took weeks and months to get seems like years to get to that point i'm just happy i didn't have to open that third one because i haven't hear hey no don't pick it up well the the packaging says you could hear the antonio and oki theme song and now we know it is indeed a possibility on the air and then it has one two three da which i don't know that's exactly what he said he heard what does da mean well the best thing too is on the back of it it has his height 191 centimeters his weight 108 kilograms okay god damn his finish hold there's a swastika what what and then it says gaitami cobra twist so i didn't know he was doing the nazi gaitami cobra but no that's there's an actual now certainly there's not an actual swastika i will i will be sending you a photo of this momentarily uh yeah she's there absolutely is this is this was made in japan in the 1980s so i how did i mean i understand that when he's stepping over the octopus hold it his legs are crooked out in that fashion and he's got but that's that still doesn't uh say look at as he's hunting nazis that he's trying to kill nazis with his hold not that he's like supporting them i see antonio noki is a man for they would be supporting him he'd have his full weight on them if he had the hold on them jim uh before we move on i sent you an email if you could open your email real quick just uh finish things well i i i had i had and i assumed that it is the picture that you spoke of god damn it is a swastika isn't it it's it's not printed like a swastika logo it's printed like if a swastika was was like a letter it like that you would hit oh here's the swastika letter on the typewriter it just fits in with the rest of the print his finished the cobra twist k o b u r a t w i s t i could that how would they not know what that is but could that be something in translation from something else i hope i've uh made that perfectly clear yeah i mean again maybe another thing to elevate antonio anoki antonio anoki nazi hunter i think is a has a hell of a ring to it all right i'll put him down jim it's not ever gonna quit now how much is a hundred eight kilograms i don't know s that well s who was it was a jack reynolds who was the fucking ring announcer for the clash of champions and he had the russian assassins and he goes had a combined weight of 190 pounds from kilos russia all right well jim yeah well that's better it's even better than south central louis yant who did that i remember you telling that story who did so much we ended up with a ring announcer one night on a spoky man wrestling show that was part of the local sponsoring fire department group because for whatever reason there was no other ring announcer there that night and so i would write down the in a case of an inexperienced announcer i'd write down the actual weights and the hometowns all you have to do is say from so and so the weight of so and so bursa's name the gangsters were from south central la and so when he read it out loud from south central louis yant the gangsters well again we want to thank uh antonio andokie for participating the last several weeks here on the show we really do appreciate it there it is oh that didn't sound so good but jim cornet's funniest moments volume four on the bus volume five is in the works right now jim you know you are promised everyone at the start of the show no you that you were gonna tell the greatest story ever told so now it's i i you're trying to you're trying to george burns my jack benny but my uncle who's a psychiatrist last week a nurse went ran into his office and said doctor there's a man in the waiting room and thinks he's invisible the doctor said tell him i can't see well there you go a man in the waiting room thinks he's invisible and we're gonna be invisible because the show is over ladies and gentlemen you can't see i'm gonna stay out of sight for a while after this well ladies and gentlemen the high chinks continue in 2026 and beyond thanks for listening we'll be back on the drive-thru and experience for jim cornet i'm the great brian last tally ho