Rolling Blunts for a Money Launderer (w/ Brooke Candy)
49 min
•Jan 23, 20263 months agoSummary
Nicole Byer interviews rapper and singer Brooke Candy about her unconventional path to meeting her husband in a desert tattoo shack, her past work as a stripper and blunt roller for a money launderer, and her evolution from pansexual performer to monogamous partner. The conversation explores themes of delusion as a necessary trait for performers, texting communication styles, and finding love unexpectedly.
Insights
- Delusion is a necessary psychological trait for performers and creatives to succeed, requiring belief in their work before external validation exists
- Unexpected meeting circumstances often lead to stronger relationships than traditional dating approaches, suggesting serendipity matters more than intentional searching
- Communication style mismatches in relationships require compromise—moving from text-heavy to phone calls can strengthen emotional connection
- Career pivots during life disruptions (pandemic) can lead to discovering new passions that feel more sustainable than original pursuits
- Comfort with solitude and self-acceptance paradoxically attracts romantic partners, contradicting the cultural narrative of 'needing' someone
Trends
Podcast guest cross-promotion between independent creators building audience loyaltyNormalization of non-traditional relationship timelines (moving in after one week) in millennial/Gen Z dating culturePerformers discussing mental health impacts of stage fright and performance anxiety publiclyCareer diversification among entertainers into adjacent creative fields (tattooing, podcasting)Shift from text-based to voice-based communication preferences among younger professionalsReframing of 'delusion' as positive psychological trait for entrepreneurship and creative workIncreased transparency about sex work and alternative income sources in mainstream mediaRelationship dynamics where partners maintain separate interests and entertainment preferences
Topics
Unconventional relationship formation and meeting circumstancesPerformer psychology and the role of delusion in creative successCommunication styles in modern relationships (texting vs. phone calls)Sex work and stripping as career and personal developmentCareer pivots and pandemic-era professional transitionsMonogamy vs. open relationships in long-term partnershipsStage fright and performance anxiety managementTattoo artistry and body modificationPodcast production and guest appearancesDating app usage (Hinge) vs. organic meetingRelationship conflict resolution and debate dynamicsBlunt rolling and cannabis industry workMoney laundering and informal economy employmentStripper culture and pole dancing as performance artCelebrity culture and parasocial relationships
Companies
Airbnb
Sponsor segment featuring Nicole's Joshua Tree trip experience with guest favorites badge and private pool rental
Hustler
Brooke Candy's father worked for Larry Flynt's Hustler organization; she styled mannequins for storefronts
Sony Pictures
Discussed in context of Venom movie franchise and Spider-Man villain film universe expansion
HeadGum
Production company for 'Why Won't You Date Me?' podcast and 'Next We Have' podcast mentioned in ads
People
Brooke Candy
Guest; rapper, singer, songwriter with new podcast 'Unwrapped'; discusses unconventional relationship origin story
Nicole Byer
Host of 'Why Won't You Date Me?'; comedian exploring dating and relationships through guest interviews
Larry Flynt
Hustler founder; appeared in Brooke Candy's music video; ran for U.S. President in 1980s as liberal candidate
Charli XCX
Collaborated with Brooke Candy on performances and tours; continued music production during pandemic
Beyoncé
Referenced as cultural icon and example of perfect performance and presence; attended F1 race with Jay-Z
Jay-Z
Discussed in context of being overshadowed by Beyoncé's fame despite his own legendary status
Usher
Referenced for paying strip club dancers with printed 'Usher books' instead of real money
Tony Soprano
Character discussed as subject of Nicole's apologist perspective on 'The Sopranos' TV series
Bernie Sanders
Mentioned in comparison to Larry Flynt's presidential campaign reach and primary success
Bill Clinton
Recipient of Larry Flynt's political donations supporting his presidency
Quotes
"You can't say the wrong thing to the right person"
Brooke Candy•Relationship advice segment
"I think to be a performer, you have to have the delusion that, like, yes, people want this"
Nicole Byer•Discussion of performer psychology
"I'm not at a murder weight. You got to cut me up. There's more of me. You got to drag me somewhere."
Brooke Candy•Safety and body size discussion
"I think when you are fully comfortable being alone and you're like totally at peace with it all, that's when it fucking comes and hits you over the head"
Brooke Candy•Dating advice conclusion
"Delusion confirmed. Here's a proof. Here's a proof."
Nicole Byer•Discussion of performer delusion validation
Full Transcript
You guys know I'm always on the go. It was a hectic year, so I planned to get away to Joshua Tree with a few of my friends because we just needed to stare at some rocks and disconnect. And here's the thing about hotels. Okay, I like them. Sometimes you find a cute one, but when you're traveling with your friends, a hotel room is just not big enough. And I refuse to sit on my bed eating room service just so my friend can have the one chair that's in the room. I like a hotel pool, but I do not like fighting for a lounge chair or getting splashed by strangers. I want a kitchen where I can open a bottle of wine and just yap all night without worrying about getting a noise complaint. That's why for this trip, finding a home on Airbnb was the only option. We found this amazing cute spot on a huge property with a private pool, and it meant we could just sprawl out and enjoy our time together without being just like on top of one another. And if you only want the best, you need to look for their guest favorites. It's a badge on Airbnb that shows the most loved homes based on ratings, reviews, and reliability. It basically takes out all of the guesswork. So if you want to have fun with your friends on your next trip, book your next day on Airbnb. Want to watch this episode? Catch the full video on YouTube. Just hit the link in the episode description. This is a HeadGum podcast. We were hooking up. Uh-huh. And I had performed that night. So I had a wig, full glam. It was like very, the outfit, everything was very weird though. It wasn't like sexy, hot glam. It was like freaky. Freaky and bizarre. I love that. Freaky and bizarre to say the least. And we got into the shower and as we were getting in the shower, he was standing where the water was and I was giving him a blowjob. and I'm trying to make sure that I don't get in because I know once that water hits the hair it's falling off so and it wasn't fat it wasn't like a lace front that's glued on it was basically plopped on your head okay and so as I'm like it didn't work I'm like going at it and then it just fell and then he just sees because I it was like long black hair and I think he thought it was my hair and then he just like sees it and then he's like it's fine and i'm like i'm like and i just left it there and i just kept going why won't you date me why won't you date me please tell me why Oh, baby, welcome to another episode of Why Won't You Date Me, a podcast where me, Nicole Byer, was trying to figure out why I was so single, even though you could come on my doorstep and tell me it's snow. My guest today is a rapper, singer, and songwriter. Reading's She has a new podcast called Unwrapped, which is out now. And I was lucky enough to be a guest on the first episode. I didn't realize it was the first episode. You could watch that on YouTube or listen to it on all streaming platforms. I'm so excited for Brooke Candy. Brooke Candy. Brooke Candy. Hi, Brooke. Hey, I like song. because that's how I feel. I am that. Sometimes reading is so hard. Reading is fundamental. It is. I almost wore a shirt that said reading is fundamental. It had a little raccoon on it. Or maybe it said books are good. I don't remember. I know there's a raccoon, and I know it said something about reading. Yay. I love to read. What are you reading right now? Oh, reading bitches. Reading bitches. I got it. I'm on board. How did you meet your husband? We met in the desert. He was tattooing out of a shack in the desert. This is really very, very. I hit him up. He had no pictures of himself on his Instagram, but I liked his tattoos. I said, where can I meet you to get a tattoo? He said, I'll be in Joshua Tree. I met him. He was literally in a shack. and I went inside the shack, and there was a dove flying around the room and just pictures of angels. And then he tattooed angels on me, and I had never had angels on me before. And then I left, and I was like, I'm going to marry him. But he didn't know yet, but I knew. And then you married him. And then we got married. That's really, really sweet. Was he alone in this shack? He was with his friend Andy. He was helping who was there was like a RV in the back where Andy was. And then he was in this shack alone, like the front shack. They were they were building. You have to know how crazy that sounds. Does that sound crazy? Yes. That your future husband was like, meet me in this shack. I used to do some of the weirdest, craziest. Like I just wouldn't meet someone. And I would just like, yeah, like drive or fly out without ever meeting them one on one or having a conversation on the phone and then just like go hang out. Or it's just I was comfortable in that space. I don't know. I think it was a lot of delusion. I felt safe, which is crazy. I don't think it's crazy. A little wild. But I also growing up felt safer than maybe I should have. I would hitchhike in New York. Like if somebody cat called me, I'd go, where are you going? And they'd be like, if they were like uptown, I'd be like, take me with you. That's fucking crazy. I know. And my old roommate, Jen, I remember one time we did it and we were in the backseat. They were driving kind of crazy. And she was like, how do you know these people? And I go, I don't. And then the way she gripped my knee, I was like, why is she so scared? And now at the ripe old age of 77, I was like, she, she, she should have been scared. I should have been scared. Could have been Ted Bundy. Could have been. But I don't know. I've always been fat. I don't think I'm going to get murdered. That's hard. Girl, you're hot. Oh, I didn't say I wasn't hot. I don't think the two are mutually exclusive. But I do think I'm. But hot girls get murdered. I'm not like murder. I'm not at a murder weight. You got to cut me up. That's not a thing. Yes, it is. You got to cut me up. There's more of me. You got to drag me somewhere. There's more of me. Think about it. If you're going to murder, you're going for a tiny person. Because it's less work. Murdering is like, okay, it's going to weigh on your conscious. But now I got to do a workout. I got to drag. I got to use my core to drag a big bitch over here. I gotta use my legs to lift her and push her down the river? Down the river? I just don't think it's going to happen. Too much work. So you're saying, well, one, I think generally hot women get stalked. Yes. And then that leads to a lot of murders. Yes. But you're also saying, I said that. But you're saying to me, I'm a number one. Like, I'm going to potentially get murdered. Well, I think if somebody watching this right now was to choose between the two of us, they would choose you. I personally would choose you. You're easier. The rank of murder in this room is you, Mars, then me. But have you seen these? Your little fists. Your teeny tiny little fists. With my keys in between, my mom always said, Brooke, when you're walking home at night, put one key in between each knuckle just in case. I'm like, Mom, if I punch someone, the keys are just going to bend. Like, that's not going to hurt anyone. Just like if I try to use a knife, they're just going to go like, okay, thank you, and then stab me. If I try to use a gun, they're going to pull it, shoot me. No weapon. You're right. I'm probably going to get murdered by a serial killer at some point. I don't think you're going to get murdered. I'm just saying, if someone was thinking about who to murder in this room, I think you're number one. Oh. Well, at least I'm number one at something. We all have to be number one at something. So wait, how long were you friends before you started dating? How did you start dating from meeting in a shack? I would say a year later. Because I just kept getting tattoos. And it was very just like we'd hang out sometimes, like go get lunch. It was very platonic. And then we hung out in Japan. and then we had a wild night in Japan. And this is where my... Again, you have to know how crazy this sounds. What do you mean you just hung out in Japan? Japan is a very long flight. How does one just end up hanging out in Japan with a friend? Did you go together? I was performing. And then I went to go get a tattoo from him and we had already been hanging out. I was feeling these flirtatious vibes. Like I really was. And then I was like, oh, I'm going to Japan. So when I get back, you know, and he's like, oh, that's funny. I'm also going to Japan. Oh. And I was like, are you following me? He was like, no. The tickets were really cheap. I have nothing. And then he was there, so I had a show, and I invited him. And then we got so wasted. I've never had this much alcohol in my life. Literally, I had 35 shots, and I was never drunk. Something about the energy in Japan, you just don't get drunk. Oh. It's crazy. I was here in LA one shot. I'm asleep. I can't. I can't. I start saying weird stuff and everyone's like, you got to go. But then remember how I told you that my wig fell off? Yes. When you said about your story about your. So this is this. Can I tell the story? Yes. Please. It's X rated. But it's OK. We were hooking up and I had performed that night. So I had a wig full glam. It was like very the outfit. Everything was very weird, though. It wasn't like sexy hot glam. It was like freaky. Freaky and bizarre. I love that. Freaky and bizarre, to say the least. And we got into the shower. And as we were getting in the shower, he was standing where the water was. And I was, this is like so graphic. I was giving him a blowjob. That's okay. Okay. It's natural. That's what people do. Okay, so you're giving him a blowjob. I'm giving a blowjob and I'm trying to make sure that I don't get in because I know once that water hits the hair, it's falling off. And it wasn't fat. It wasn't like a lace front that's glued on. It was basically plopped on your head. OK. And so as I'm like, it didn't work. I'm like going at it and then it just fell. And then he just sees because it was like long black hair. And I think he thought it was my hair. And then he just like sees it. And then he's like. It's fine. I'm like, I'm like, I just left it there and I just kept going. My moves. I'm like. What was your hair like underneath? Was it braided down? Were you wearing a wig cap? Really? I was wearing, I want to say I was wearing a wig cap, but it was really short. It was like, it was almost like little drummer boy hair. It was like a bowl cut. So it went from, it was black hair, like to here, kind of the makeup wasn't sexy, but the hair is sexy. from that to like little drummer boy. You know, he was down. So I was like, okay, fine. Let's do this. I mean, we got that out of the way. Best to get that out of the way the first time. And then you never have to worry. Love just blossomed from there. Then love blossomed. Then I told him that trip because I'm a crazy person that I loved him. And I cried. Wait, okay. so you've been like hooking up your friends you're not officially dating not officially dating and then you were like I love you yeah somebody said this years and years ago that I truly believe it's like you can't say the wrong thing to the right person because had you said that oh that's so sweet isn't that nice because had you said that to the wrong person it wouldn't have been the right wait what is it You can't say the wrong thing to the right person. Yeah. So if it was the wrong person, they could have been like, that's crazy. Yeah. But you said it to the right person. Yeah. And he was like, what did he do? He laughed. Okay, so this is so bizarre. So we spent, after that, we spent like five days together. And then we were out shopping. This is so weird. So I said it. I was like, I think I love you. And I'm just going to miss you so much. And I start crying. And he laughed because he didn't, because he was surprised. And then he got up. And I was like, oh, my God, is he leaving? And he went into the store and then he stole a key chain. And then he brought it out and he was like, here, and gave me a key chain. And I was like, did you just steal that? He was like, I was like, is that him like telling me he loves me? I guess. Do you still have the key chain? No. You're like, it didn't actually mean a thing. The key chain didn't mean a thing. He stole the key chain and I said, great, I'll throw it right away. It was the weirdest like 20 minutes Like I just really let it all out He stole something from a store in Japan We both made interesting decisions And, yeah. But we're still together six years, almost seven years later. So it means something good happened. And then when you both got back here, is that when you officially started dating? Then we came back to L.A. and then we started dating. We started living together. But we were kind of, like, nomadic. So we kind of were like, we didn't have a spot. And so we both had moved from our places. And so we lived like in an Airbnb, Airbnb, Airbnb, and then we moved to New York. And then I lived in New York for four years with him and then moved back here. How long were you dating before you moved in together? Right away. Literally. Really? That I mean, yeah, I that's like one week. There was one week that went by between me saying I love you and then him stealing the key chain to then us living together. Now, do people in your life, are they like, that's crazy. You're moving too fast. They were like, oh, my God, he really loves her. Someone loves her. Someone loves her. Oh, my God. Somebody loves her. So you are pansexual and you used to be open. Oh, yeah. But now you're in a monogamous relationship. Yeah. Was it just because you were like, oh, I just want to be with this person? Or was he like, I only do monogamous relationships? I've asked a couple of times, but it's actually been like when we're fighting. That's when I'll be like, what do you think about opening this up? But it's not really like I think like if we opened it up, I would be the more jealous one. Like truly, even if it was my idea, I would regret it immediately because I would my I have a crazy imagination. It would be running and what are they doing? You know, but I think with him, we just like became so domesticated so fast. And I was so it felt like it's like this soulmate energy. And I and I felt like I met my soulmate. But before that, I dated everything. I was open to, I dated women. I've dated men, women. I was open. And I've settled down a few other times, but they were never like, it wasn't like a. It wasn't right. It wasn't a lifelong partner. I don't think I could be open. I just, because I think relationships are work. I don't think it's like bad work and I'm not like you know shitting on it but like they are work you have to communicate you have to listen you have to like adapt maybe change like something that you do that isn't the best I can't imagine doing that with multiple people oh my god checking in with three other people every fucking oh my god the thought exhausts me are you a when you text what's your texting style my texting style is relentless text after text does it kind of sometimes same yes sometimes and then heard sometimes i'll text paragraphs and i've stopped doing that the nice man in my life was like hey what if you like just call me and let me know all the things that you want to say i was like call you and have a dialogue and he was like i don't know what i'm saying he can't write it down. He's like, you could write it down. So you like have something to go off of. But like, what if I didn't have to scroll to like read your thoughts? What if you just told me? And I was like, that's crazy. But now I do like it. You like the call. I do like that because I don't because, you know, sometimes you're like texting a paragraph of your thoughts and then you like get lost in it. Then you start making up stuff and you're like, I think that. And it's like, No. I do line by line, which looks even crazy. So it's it's so funny. You can send a paragraph. But if it's line by line, the same width and height, it looks crazier for some reason. It does. And I do that line by line because I do like literal thought by thought. So I like the one as it enters my brain, I'm typing it, typing it. But it's so normal to me. And when people do it back to me, I'm like, I'm so relieved. I'm not the only one. But there are so many people, including my husband, who hate it. Yes. He just actually won't respond. So I just have full conversations with myself. I looked at our text message. It's like 200. When are you going to be home? 200. Are you hungry? 200. I'll be back in five. It's like, oh, does that frustrate you? Oh, God. I want to I want to do a thousand of texts. I love it. Yeah, the nice man is when we first started dating, I was like, so do you like how do you communicate? Do you not like texting? And he was like, no, texting is fine. But I'm more like, LOL. That's crazy. Wow. Where did you guys meet? Unhinged. Oh, yeah. You told me something. My God. And it is funny because he has been in like the peripherals, peripherals, peripherals. He's been here because he's friends with my old roommate's friend. Like they grew up together. And then his sister knew a couple of people that like I knew. And yeah, he's just like been around. But like we had never met. Yeah. And it was just funny because I was like, you've you've been so close. Like if one of our friends had any thoughts, they could have like put it like set us up. Yeah. Which is strange. You know, where were the friends at? Kind of. Like, hook me up. For years. I was like begging friends to be like, hey, if you know of anybody, set me up with, you know, them. And nobody ever did it. I had to go on Hinge to find them my fucking self. It was funny. Last night I was like, how long did it take you between us matching and you actually messaging me? And he was like, it was very quick. I messaged you and we met like a week later. And I was like, that's not what I'm asking. I'm asking how long it took from when we met to when you messaged me. And he was like, Nicole, it was Hinge. I had to message you when I liked you. I liked one of your pictures and messaged you. And I was like, oh, I'm sorry. I'm being insistent and belligerent for no reason. My life as well. My life as well. My God, I feel like my life, it's just like you said, it's work. and it's like 5% work, 95% debate team, which is also work. Yes. And I'm like, my husband is the debate team captain. I'm like, thank you, professor, for teaching me something that isn't even true or right. And we can have different, like, I feel he doesn't think that we can have different mindsets and watch different shows. And he's like, well, we don't like the same things. And it's like, you're not going to like this movie. And it's like, but I might. I mean, it's fine to be in a relationship and then each do your own thing, have, you know, different thoughts on things like we don't have to debate everything. You know, do you do that? We typically like mostly the same things, but just for different reasons. Yeah. Like he showed me Venom, the third Venom movie, and I had never seen any of the Venoms. I had seen it. And I was like, okay, they're really fun. What is it? The first Venom, okay. So Sony was doing, I talk about this so much. Sony was doing their own Marvel things because they owned Spider-Man. Yeah. So they were doing Spider-Man movies and then they were like, we'll do Spider-Man villain movies. So Venom is a Spider-Man villain, but the movies, he's kind of a hero. and the villain movies never really have a villain turn. It's weird. But the first movie, it's about friendship. And I love friendship. And he was like, I liked it because it was like an action movie. But you like things and you just see different things. So I like re-watching things with you. And we're watching The Sopranos right now. And I'm a Tony Soprano apologist. He's a bad man. He is, but I feel, God, it's just so hard to be in an Italian mafia family. And it's like, when you're the boss, and he's trying, he's going to therapy. He is. And everyone keeps doing exactly what he says not to do. Listen, imagine how stressed he is. I know. The stress of living a double life. And that's what I keep saying to the nice man. And he keeps being like, Nicole, he kills people. And I'm like, yeah, but his children are so selfish and they want so much. But he the crimes pay for their life. And I'm like, Carmela's complaining all the crime pays for her life. She won't get off his back. I mean, oh, my God. Have you have you gone through the whole not the whole thing? Oh, my God. We just started season four. OK. Oh, my God. And it's funny because the nice man in my life is like he's like the beginning is pretty funny, but it gets really intense and heavy. We're in season four. I'm still ha-ha-ing. I'm still having a nice time. How many seasons? That's a good question. Who knows? It feels like infinite with The Sopranos. I don't know. But towards the end. Mars, do you mind? Really? That's what people keep saying. Hold on to your chair. I've been having a nice time. There's six seasons. Oh. Oh. Oh, my God. So I only have, so we just started four, so four, five. I don't know why I had to count on my fingers. I have three seasons left of the show. My God. Sometimes I'm like, am I dumb? 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I'm hogtied on his desk in his office on Wilshire Boulevard, literally in bondage with like these crazy, you know, those shoes that point and you can't walk in them. And I'm wearing those and I'm just fully hogtied. And he literally, I'm not kidding, is asleep. He's in his wheelchair behind me. Eyes closed. And I'm hogtied singing my song in slow motion. It's so dramatic. I have these girls next to him once holding my wheelchair. She's like has her boobs out with little pasties on like it's so it was meant to look so cinematic and dramatic. And then he's like, you just can't stay awake. How old was he? It was like he died, I want to say, maybe less than a year later. Oof. Yeah. He was like, I just need to rest. And you're like, you're going to work. Get up and work. I'm not sure he even knew that it was going to happen. Oh, no. And the weirdest thing ever, my dad was there that day and he didn't work there anymore, but he was there. He would go in and out sometimes, I think. They have like multiple offices. And I was like getting ready, surrounded by like all these gay men and drag queens. And we were like being so loud and obnoxious and crazy. And, you know, I looked insane. And my dad had never really seen me as that character. He's never been to one of my shows. I try to keep it separate. It's too vulgar. it's way too crass for them I don't I want to keep it like I love my dad and I don't want to like have you had that conversation with him like does he know why he's not invited to shows he I I've invited him he's let me know that it's too much and I'm like okay good got it and then I'm like I from now on I will keep it separate and then but then he walked in and I was like in this crazy outfit. I might have even been changing. And he was like, oh, oh, oh. And he was in a suit. And I was like, oh, everyone, this is my dad. It was so weird. And everyone, oh, my God. It was the most motley crew of people that were with me. It was just insanity. We're all covered in glitter. And they're like, hi, Mr. Candy. And he's like, hi. And he just, like, left and walked away. but I honestly don't think that Larry knew I was coming. I think they literally woke him up and they were like, oh, Brooke's coming to film. And he's like, what? And then they just rolled him over and then sat him behind him. Sat him right there and then he went right back to sleep. He was like, oh. He didn't have to do shit. He was so rich and just like, he was over it. He ran for president. He ran for president? He ran for president in the 80s. He's a hardcore liberal. He wants prostitution to be legal. He loves gay rights. He was like a liberal, like he was big into just, I think he donated a lot to like Bill Clinton's presidency. He was very much like a Democrat, which is odd because normally people that are worth half a billion dollars are Republican fascists. Pieces of shit. But he was in that way. I always thought that was commendable. Did he make it to a primary? Probably not. I probably remember that. No, no. I was like, I wonder Bernie made it further. I think he was, I don't think he made it to a primary, but he might have made it to a few debates. Did you hear my stomach just growl? Did you hear it? Okay, thank God. No, I didn't hear it. I heard it and I was like, that sounded crazy. So did you grow up in the hustler offices? No. Did you like grow up going there? Oh, going there? Yeah. But I guess it's just an office. So it's not like there'd be like titties out. Oh, it was weird? It was weird. Like, it's not normal. Like, my dad's like, oh, what am I going to do with you? I have to work. So Liz, who was Larry's wife, can you take her? And then Liz would be, come up to Larry's penthouse. So I'd go up to this penthouse, and I'd be, like, sitting on his, like, cow. And it was all gold. It was very, like, actually very Donald Trump as well. Oh, yeah. They all have the same, like, really gaudy, like, just, like, new money style. But also, he grew up in, like, the backwoods. So it makes sense that like his idea of like ultra rich would be like gold. Yeah. Like it makes sense. And but I would be like sitting on the couch eating ice cream, watching cartoons. And then like he would come in and then I was like, hi, Brooke, how are you? Or like Liz would come check on me. But it wasn't definitely wasn't normal. And I'd just be in there alone, like literally kicking my legs, you know, like. Do you think your dad working at Hustler influenced your performance aesthetic at all? No, that was my stripping. Ah, and how did you get into stripping? Stripping. You worked at Seventh Fail? Seventh Fail. Is it still open? No. Did it close? I'm not sure. It's on Sunset, right? It's on Sunset. In West Hollywood? In West Hollywood. West Hollywood, Hollywood. Yeah. I worked at Crazy Girls. Okay. Cheetahs. I used to love Cheetahs. Cheetahs was so fun. Cheetahs used to be a really nice place for alternative girls. And it just changed. Now they're like more focused on lap dances. And I was like, no, I want my alt girl. And like pole tricks. And the girls, when they would get on the pole, it was like a real performance. It was amazing. And I learned a lot about myself when I did that job. That's for sure. And I also at the same time as that, my two jobs were that. at night and then by day I would roll blunts in the back of a unmarked what what it was like um money laundering this guy was 100 money laundering he had a safe with all this cash but like no one ever came in to get weed but he would just I would just sit back there and I was like I there's no music playing nothing like iPhones weren't really what they are now. So I would just roll blunt after blunt. It was the most monotonous job I just but actually kind of mindful. You know, you're really in the present. Yeah, something tedious. You get to just like think about things. What was your did you have a signature pole move? Oh, yeah, I did. So I'd climb up the top, wrap my legs, hang down, be fully hung down for a second. And then you know, I do this for a second. And then I could drop and right before I'd get to the ground, I could stop myself. So my head wouldn't hit. So was the pole behind you or in front of you? I would climb, like climb with my face in the audience. Yes. Climb up, wrap my legs, drop down. So my face was facing them. Oh, and then drop. That's so wild. That was my one trick. That was my one trick. Because the other girls could do way crazy this girl named apple oh my god when she would come she would come once a week and people would come from like all over la just to see her and she was so hot and she could do the craziest should i've ever seen on a pole and i've also never seen as much money thrown at someone ever in my life and we were all like fuck apple's day today i'm not gonna make any fucking money. Oh my god. I wonder where Apple is now. Oh, she's rich. She's not OnlyFans. She must be OnlyFans. Apple, if you're listening or if you know Apple, let us know where Apple is. She was so fierce. What was your stripper name? Brooke Candy. I never thought to have an alias. Is Candy your government last name? Yeah. Wait, I didn't know that. That's really funny. My friends were like, hi, Mr. Candy. And I was like, ah, that's funny. because that's not his last name, but that is his last name. His last name. That's so wild. It's bizarre. What a treat. Candy. Candy. It's like my grandpa changed his name after World War II. He moved here. And then I think he thought it sounded like American. That's very funny. Right? An American name. Candy. Candy. Like Coca-Cola. it's just so it is a strange I've thought about that it's my name it's I like it so you said you learned things about yourself stripping can I ask what did you learn about yourself oh my god well I learned to be completely uninhibited obviously getting naked in front of strangers get over it real quick yeah I got over stage fright I got but actually now I have it again so that you do I have it again it's bad now so how do you like cry i i i just do it and then the second i'm up there it's gone but i'll cry fully cry my makeup off because i'm so scared but it'll be a bunch of people like and i'm like oh i'm gonna something's gonna go wrong so it's maybe like ptsd or something but when i was stripping i was so young that i think i just was just young and dumb and i just was super uninhibited. It helped me become uninhibited. It helped me become very confident to the point of, like, calm down, okay? Delusional. Sometimes you need a little delusion. Oh, that's, I think to make it in this industry. I think to be a performer, you have to have the delusion that, like, yes, people want this. People, I mean, comedy, you have to have some sort of delusion that, like, a crowd of people literally want to hear all your thoughts. And it's like, you have to be like, Beyonce's delusional. I think people are going to love this music that I'm making that nobody else has heard, that maybe 10 people have heard, but they're going to love it. That's delusion. And then we all eat it up and I do love it. And then it's like, delusion confirmed. Here's a question. Do you have any advice for single people? I feel like, don't be discouraged if you don't find it where you're looking because sometimes it is in the least expected places and it hits you over the head when you don't expect it. Because I was single, I think, for like nine years and then I just randomly met a guy in a shack because I went to get a tattoo and I wasn't looking for, you know, there was no date and I was like, oh, you. So I think it could happen at any time, any age, anywhere. It doesn't matter. And I think if it doesn't happen the way you expect it to happen, don't be discouraged by that, because I think that there's someone out there for everyone. I think so, too. I do think there's somebody out there for everybody, unless you don't want it. Unless you don't want it. And then that means you're leaving your person out there to dry and be sad. Do you think single people, because I've watched a lot of videos about this, like single people who are like, I'm single because I'm choosing to be single because I'm in my power. And I feel like that's a little judgy for people that are in relationships. I personally do like the relationship vibe. I like the safety. Yes. But I could still be in my power. Yes. I think you could be in your power in a relationship. But I think when you're single, it's a little bit of because I feel like society puts a lot on you when you're single to be like, why haven't you met someone or like you'll meet somebody one day or I don't like people feeling bad for you because you're single. So I think sometimes people are like, oh, I'm in my power because they're like, I don't I'm rejecting society. I'm rejecting bullshit of people being like you need to be with somebody because I think when I was single. I was very much like not in my power because I wanted a relationship so bad. But then it got to a point where I was like, I think I like myself and I think I'm OK by myself. Yeah, that's I'm enough. And then I met somebody. That's the other thing, actually. That's yeah. OK, that's the advice. You summed it up much better. I just associated for so long. I was like, what was the question? I think when you are fully comfortable being alone and you're like totally at peace with it all, you could travel alone and you can just like do anything alone. Like that's when it fucking comes and hits you over the head. That what happened with me And I do You said it earlier I like being able to oh I love talking Talking is very fun. I love it so much. But I also like being silent. And I like being silent with somebody sometimes. I like the pressure of not having to say anything and still being very comfortable with them. But then sometimes I'll be like, I want to say things. and I don't think you want to respond to me, but can I just talk at you? Sometimes he's like, sure. And that's nice. I need more of that. Yeah. I need more because I always want to talk at. I always am talking at. But he figured out he has now noise-canceling headphones. So when I really got to get it, like when I have to show him a meme, I'm like, and then he's like, what? I'm like, look at this. Oh my God, look. I just watched this thing. It was so dumb. It was Logan Paul walking off of a podcast because they made us a joke about the suicide forest. And I was like, oh, look it. Look it. Look it. He was like, oh my God. Can you turn the volume down? Turning it down. And then it freezes. I'm like, oh, wait, hold on. Wait, let me get it back. Okay, wait. He's like, okay. Headphone back on. And I'm like, well, yes, I did it. It's funny because sometimes I don't care what the response is. I just need to share with you. Yes. Like sometimes I'll send him memes and he'll just go, LOL. And I want to be like, thank you. Did you watch it? Did you like it? Did you have a nice time? do you have any other thoughts about this 30 second thing I sent you if you saw my meme send to my husband I mean it's just I never even get the lol he will send me like a puppy meme once in a while and stuff sweet see that's nice I was in a bad mood and he sent me a Sears catalog of 90s bathrooms and he was like did that make you feel better and I was like kind of but not really here are the bathrooms I like it did make me feel better. And I don't know why I couldn't just say, yes, thank you. How did you get into tattooing? Did your husband teach you how to tattoo? My husband kind of half taught me during the pandemic. I saw like, like, right before the pandemic, I had been playing shows with Charlie XCX and been doing a lot of performances and put out an album, was going to do a bunch of tours. And then I feel like when the pandemic hit, like, I don't want to work on that anymore. It just didn't feel like that was ever going to happen again. I know Charlie literally put out an album during the pandemic. She's a hustler. Like she has more drive than anyone I've ever met. Like it's insane. But I was like, I'm going to switch careers to something that is more relaxing and something I can do that is just like I can do anywhere and I know that when if this ends like I'll be able to do it and who knows like and also I did it during too with masks and stuff like that but I kind of I taught myself on my legs oh yeah there's some really bad ones awful I did a terrible stripper heel oh really it's the worst it's so bad it's unfixable unfixable unfixable you can't get it covered I asked Kyle there's nothing I can do. And he's so good at tattooing. We've lost it. Sorry, there's nothing I can do. That's wild. Do you have any New Year's resolutions? Actually, yeah, I do. What are they? So I would like to do more phone calls. And less long texts, because I think they scare people away from being my friend. Yes. Or from just doing business. I really try so hard with my impulses to keep it from business stuff. But I do it with friends and stuff and my husband, and I know it drives them bonkers and makes them fear for their life. So I would like to have more control over my impulses. I think that's a good New Year's resolution. I also think maybe that'll be my New Year's resolution to try to just be more mindful and like think before I act a fool. But also there's something so amazing about the transparency and the honesty in that. Yeah, but still. And the sensitivity. Could have a little bit of restraint. A little, a little. Just a touch. Just a touch more. Just not too much, just a little bit. Yeah. And I'm like, I'm killing it. Back to my 21-year-old illusion. I'm back on the pole. I'm killing it. I think you could do it. I think you could make your grand return to the pole. At some point. Maybe I'm like, yeah, maybe when the time is right, a class. Just to make sure the back works. Yes. And I can do at least a spin. And then like at a show, maybe. Yeah. Why not? I saw Shy Girl. I'll just throw this in. Shy Girl. And she had two strippers. Oh, yes, yes, yes. Have you seen her show? I haven't. I've seen clips on Instagram. The two strippers, when they came out, it was beautiful. It's like, oh my God. And it's just so, I had never seen that at a show with that kind of music, just with her visuals. And it was just like, I was like, wow, this is really cool. There's a woman who dances with Usher. I wish I could remember her name. But she is so aggressive with her dancing that I love it so much. She does a move where she hangs on the side where her legs are kind of like in a pretzel and she's to the side and she like beats her chest. And I love it so much. And the way she climbs is so I don't know how she's doing it. Like, it looks like nothing's really touching the pole. And she's like all the way at the top so quickly. And then she she also can drop down. And it's and she also does a thing where she like she twists her legs. So she like does it like tumbles down. Yeah. And it's so wild to watch. It's kind of a double twist to make that happen. But you know what that reminded me of Usher books. Do you remember that? Yes. When he went to the strip club and was paying the girls in Usher books. That's not nice. Paying them in printed money with his face on it. That's not nice. I think Usher's New Year's resolution should be to get real money. Like, you're literally Usher. You are so rich. You've so much money. Come on. Well, Brooke, we've come to the end of this episode. Oh. I have to ask, would you date me? Uh, 100% no doubt. Duh. Oh, my God. I thought you were just saying no. And I was like. No one's ever said no to you. Yes. What? Yes. On the show? Yes. What? I think I'm gonna fuck them up honestly I think Mike Mitchell was one I think maybe Jakes O'Neil was one maybe Jakes O'Neil I think maybe I don't know I'd have to really rack my brain but I think like five people have been like no you're hot you're funny you're cool good style like good taste you are into really obscure niche weird stuff That's like I love that. That's very Aquarius. Are you? No, I'm a Virgo. What are you? Cancer. I don't know anything about the signs. Well, I think it doesn't matter, but it does. The only thing I know is like Virgos are particular. Organized. I'm not. So. I guess you could say it's organized chaos. I have little piles of stuff that I know what's going on. Don't touch my piles. Because I know what's going on in the piles. That's literally, sorry to keep it running. I know that we are supposed to end up. I cleaned my husband's desk yesterday because there was all these piles. And then it looked like trash to me, but I threw away his prescription for his glasses. But I don't think I did because I looked through the trash. But he was like, Brooke, this is why I tell you don't touch my piles. But I'm like, no, but there's so many and I just have to tidy them. Is he a Virgo? He's an Aquarius. Oh. Similar. Yeah, I guess so. I think. I simply don't know. I also really don't. I know Aquarius is a water sign. Yeah. Virgo's a earth sign. Earth, wind, and fire. Well, if you like this episode of Why Won't You Date Me. Oh, wait. Do you have anything you want to promote? Oh, yeah. My podcast Unwrapped. New music. and... Do you have like a release date for your new music or no? Not quite yet. Okay. And a lot of visuals. Ooh. A lot. Well, can you talk to Beyonce and let her know we'd like visuals from her too? Where is she? I don't know. She was at the F1 race. Was she? Mm-hmm. And her titties were out to play. Well, she was actually, and she was with her mom. Yes, and Jay-Z was there, and they got driven around, and I was like, she's living my dream. I feel I watched this video where her and Jay-Z were walking out and not and everyone was just yelling Beyonce and not one person yelled Jay-Z. I wonder what that's like to be like, I am married to like the hottest lady. I am talented in my own right. I'm a living legend kind of as well. And nobody gives a shit about me. Like he was walking like, you know, he probably assumed at least he'd hear one or two. One or two Jay-Z's. it's all Beyonce Beyonce over here over here Beyonce over here she's so pretty I mean she she's literally perfect I love her so much I love her too well if you like this episode of why won't you date me you could like it you could rate it subscribe give me five stars on Apple podcast and if you write me something nasty hitting on me to why won't you date me podcast at gmail.com I will read it and I'll make a request if you don't mind keep them short a little bit just not like an essay length. A couple like a paragraph or two is great. Okay. Hi Nicole. I'm really high right now. First I would like to pick you up at your Midtown Hotel and the GeoTracker that was towing a Suzuki sidekick. That's funny because I love a GeoTracker and a Suzuki sidekick. I love a Suzuki sidekick more than anything. They're so cute. They're Japanese right? You can't get them but it's one of my favorite cars. You can get them. Imported. No. What do you mean? They sold Suzuki Sidekicks here. The little box? The Samurai, that's the one. They sold them here. I love that car. The Samurai and the Sidekick are pretty similar. The Sidekick is 90s. The Samurai, I believe, was 80s to 90s. But the GeoTracker is the same car, just sold under a different name. I love it. It's like, why? I love it. You ask to drive and for me to sit in the sidekick while you say something like, but this is simply not a good idea. I've left an engineer cap on the passenger seat for you and we communicate by phone. The horn blares toot toot and we're off. I give you directions to our destination. You pepper me with questions about the replacement engine for the tracker. I'm coy with responses because I actually just stole these two cars. They were parked next to each other and I decided they were a bonded pair. pair. I demure and say, I don't know anything about cars. Tell me everything, which is true. I give you directions to the Javits Center. We attend the New York auto show. I've arranged for a gaggle of hunky and or old, respectful Italian mechanics to personally escort us around. And we all engage in your special interest and get free snacks. By the end of the night, I've lost track of the tiny car choo choo train when we take an Uber to your hotel. We hug on the street. I jizz my pants as I walk away. And you have a tupperware of leftovers from the auto show. Have a good night from Jackson. Thank you, Jackson. Goodbye. That was a HeadGum podcast. Hey, I'm Gareth Reynolds, and I have a new podcast on HeadGum called Next We Have. Now, this show is for people with short attention spans, which is everyone. I mean, you're probably trying to skip this ad right now, but don't, because you now legally have to listen to the show. That's how law works. Next we have is very simple. Each episode has three short segments. 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