Stephen A Smith’s Nephew Josh Declares Steph As The GOAT and Guarantees A Knicks Ring

Got stuff ahead of Mike. I'm taking Mike who I'm dying on that. Hmm. Like how many mice is it? In my top five, there's only one Mike, okay, it can't be him so there must be another Mike. I didn't know about Listen, man. I got stuff as the gold What's up guys mystic Zach here welcome back to double coverage episode 17 today, I'm joined by Josh Smith People at home give your background what you got going on who you are? Well, King in New York trying to be at least you know King in New York. I'm down here in Miami This is like my second home some of time, you know, I'm saying I didn't see you last summer if I did I didn't know about this show But the show wasn't around but I was outside All right, well I heard some good things about the show and that's it. I'm here to stop Bob far left Yeah facts always good, you know Miami living with the UFC this weekend Our season ended. I'll just let's say you said UFC. Yeah, you're still basketball season where I'm from. Yeah No, I was better You're Miami you had a better weekend watching the UFC than the basketball. Yeah, I mean y'all I feel like y'all championship Was that 83 point game? Yeah, that's enough. I thought good about your little a bam Jersey on cool appreciate I don't get me over have fun with it. Yeah, I found it If you want to come up during a parade in June just hit me now be friends you could tap in no dope You're gonna be in Oklahoma. I'm sorry. What now. That's the wrong orange and blue team. That's the wrong orange and blue team They they blew was a little funny It's a little funny. What makes the Knicks Viable contenders going to this postseason because a lot of people are doubting them You see they're behind the calves and the odds even well We're the most complete team. That's not just a biased thing I feel like and last year we overachieved and so we got one more year of overachieving so we overachieve again Now we in the finals You know and I feel like you know if Indiana could take okc to seven. Yeah, we would have beat them Why do you think people are doubting the Knicks this postseason because the calves ahead of them was kind of crazy Because you guys beat the Celtics last year, you know, I'm saying there's I mean It's the fun thing to do to doubt the Knicks like we got fans like me and Then Oklahoma like what fans they got that you know of I don't know exactly what fans do. Um, Indiana Nobody that's so it's cool. It just be like oh Nick's gonna lose. I'll be walking through the streets. Yeah, poor thing Nick Why were you from and you know, I learned that it's like a running joke that Steven a started. Yeah, your uncle Yeah, that's where I think a lot of people see that's where I had seen you But you're coming up with your own show. Yeah, talk to me about growing up with your uncle Um, you know, he it was almost like having an NBA dad So I'm a kid of it. I was born in the 80s So that's when God's you should just have kids and just going with they like and then the The mother and her family raised the kids so that was Steven a my mother raising me so and he um, yeah He's something else. Yeah, yeah, I see in a um Y'all get the corporate TV version of him and I get the Highlands Queens Raising the house type type stuff. So when you see us interacting it all makes sense when you learn our dynamic Yeah, but are you guys like debating about sports at home? No, it's never sports because we like the same teams We mad at the same things and stuff like that We debate about like my behavior or things he may say that I don't agree with on TV and stuff like that That's what we debate about everything where people are like coming down on him He ignores them because me and him already had the argument right away as soon as he comes over first take What's your day-to-day like are you helping him with this stuff keeping him current? Yeah, well, I got I got I got two kids in my own my son is 13 He's on his way on some media stuff too So I kind of wanted to do like a you know how to use to come straight out of high school to play the NBA I want him to do straight out of junior high Yeah with media like you gonna be a ninth grade covering high school sports and he gonna do it in a big way because he comes from You know, we got all these resources and stuff. You can use it. I'm gonna bring him here in the summertime I did the same thing. I had on my first board show when I was 14. So yeah, see that. Yeah Yeah, I bring him here so you could you could tell him that sometimes you need to hear those stories No, you got to start because um you watch your progression through the years You know, I started social media and I was 17 Then you he already has the doors through his family, but you got to make your own door sometimes All right, so what made you do this park has oh man I was I was doing different shows throughout the years my first shows with Jada kiss kiss in the mist on World Star From there I did a show a Pac-Man Packin's act a couple years and then so I want to kind of branch out do my own thing Tap into all the things that I thought I'd been missing previously and start my own independent You know, yeah, no, it's working out for you. I like this whole thing right here. I like it all. Yeah Appreciate that. Yeah, what's the next point? What's the next one? Because we're gonna follow your blueprint Well, we're gonna follow the blueprint. Well, I'm just trying to go all basketball You didn't want to go down the UFC route at all. So it seems like the basketball rabbit hole is where we're at Yeah, yeah But you you were kind of just dismissive of Bams 83 points I felt like no, no, no, I ain't gonna do that because I know that it's hard to score I will never not 83 points But the way he got it when I see them but I've seen I've spent last summer in Miami and I'm coming up in this thing So me and him we got a little bit of quaint. I want to know What's being told to the team when he was chasing the record because when you're falling on purpose That makes it a little ingenious like I remember Kobe's 81 And it's a lot when they say he needed every point because the Lakers was up 16 when he was chasing 82 So it's not like Kobe's whole thing was like all we need every basket But BAM and them was like when you trying to stop the clock in order for him to run it up that made it a little No, I saw a guy be like, they needed all those points like that's what I'm like, that's not true Yeah, no, definitely not true. Come on. They played a game every January 22nd Now what I would say if I was BAM or a fan of BAM, I don't care how you got the points every Whatever date it was March, whatever you better run that game back the same way they do Kobe. Yeah, no, but better What would it mean better more points? No, I don't do that. See we ain't gonna do that Yo, you seen the kid shoot the thing he goes bam. Yeah I'm doing it. You know saying don't get out of control like that with this way in It is funny though, like, no, it is good but some people were too disliked hating OD. Yeah, like Go score 83 at like a shoot around matter of fact like do it with like, you know High schoolers or anything like wheelchair kids like it's tough to score 83 points So, you know the thing about the 83 point game, right? Like I just said they play Kobe's every year annually Do you think you'd be able to watch BAM's 83 again? No, I don't think because you don't want to see 45 free throws being shot. Yeah, and the Wizards That was bad. It was Wizards. Did you go so it's not that I'm on BAM's performance The Wizards kind of ruined it. Huh? The Wizards were not helping. They were like fouling and making it ugly It looked almost looked like we want to be part of this record too. Fallon. Yeah, that was not that was not ideal They couldn't triple team. That was bad. You know what we talking a little bit too much about the eliminated Let's talk about the next the soon to be eliminated so a lot of people Are doubting them against the Hawks even you seen the ESPN like picks They're all like nicks and seven nicks and seven. Why is it seven? That's a disrespect too I can't wait until they stop being scared and let me on like, you know these these real the broadcast Chams and stuff like that the podcast and it's cool But I need to be with Kensha Perkins and them is they be they be wrong three times a morning Yeah, I could do that pay me. So I'm picking New York now Like I picked them last year against the Celtics at the game two we go to oh in Boston. Oh Nick's looking. Oh now we look net y'all a profession is why I can't see it ahead. So that's why I'm here Who's a better New York Nick? I had this argument in the barber shop and I want to get your take Carmelo Anthony or Jalen Brunson Oh Jalen Brunson's the most successful Nick. He ain't better than Mella. Hmm. He ain't better than Mella I go you'll never get me to say that and I call him Michael Jalen Brunson because He'll average 26 27 during the year and then a player's go up to 32 33 So it's like you turn it up when it mattered But I still can't put you above mellow. You know, I the next is there a corny bunch That's my team I could say I watch him There were corny bunch like I did not did they're not somebody you want to hang out with outside of you only want to watch the game And I'm kind of cool with that because we stay out of trouble. We don't get technical fouls Some might mistake us for being a P word too, but we got Jose Alvarado now I like we could you know add that little bit of toughness and we gonna see we gonna see how we rock out this shit Now Brunson's got like that halo effect in the playoffs where he's different balls in his hand late like At five foot eleven he's he's different. He really is like don't make him shorter than he is he's six one is he six one That with like the ice or when people ask me how tall I am right I tell him I'm a I'm a tall six foot But I'm a short six one so I'm on the shortest side of six one, but if I'm six foot I'm a tall six foot so Brunson is about my height is he Yeah, he seems so short on the court. It's hard on the court because the guys are so tall Steph looks like so short and he's six three. So it's more amazing Yeah, D Wade looks so looks so short. He would block everyone. So yeah, so that's why and if you know We on the basketball topic. This is gonna shake things up in the summer I Got Steph had a mic and I don't care who don't like it or nothing. I'm taking my coon. I'm dying on that Like how many mice is it? In my top five, there's only one Mike, okay, it can't be him. So there must be another Mike I didn't know about Listen, man, I got Steph as the goat and I go off of Like how you look like Steph looks like a um a Male man he could be a gym teacher Whoever else you would have is the goat it would be like Yeah, you too tall to be doing this or why aren't you in the NBA? Steph is a regular looking per he could be in this room engineering this podcast and you wouldn't think Yo, you bet you should be Six six and like the top 15 ever he is 15. See right? I'm saying what what so the read the way you got that According to you his feasts are graded in somebody who has physical advantages, right? Yeah, I guess he's he's over he's certainly over accomplished, but his dad wasn't the NBA too, but so so so what number do you have him at? Steph I really have him so much higher than everyone else, but you're making me look like I'm a hater How much I have him at three oh three what's on yeah, I respect it which which is so much higher than most people I respect that I respect so who's who's who's above him? MJ Brona Mike. Yeah, he's third. Yeah, he could be second. I think if you want a fifth All right Make his way up so so oh, so you're but he's definitely the greatest offensive player ever so you a rings guy So why is Mike first Mike is first why? Why yeah, he was the best player in the league for 12 years. How do you? 24 So you going over what they told you I watch all right So then you need to be listening to me then because what they're not telling you what they show you on highlights is only the Good stuff and Michael Jordan's first five six years. He was getting manhandled. They didn't tell you that But he was performing grumies like all that matters he scored 62 against Larry burden the Celtics they lost like So some will call that Michael Jordan's best player performance Yeah, right up there you got that now would you choose that game or would you choose LeBron's 25 straight against number one rank? Detroit defense and winning cuz when Mike had 63 he lost that game and got swept that series Yeah Since when do we glorify somebody that got swept and in law I'm just talking about not I'm not even talking about you I'm just saying in the in the realm of basketball They always show that game when he dribble into the leg three times on Larry Burt lost that game got swept that series They don't never do that with nobody up today where we praise in somebody in the midst of getting swept and losing That's black Jesus. It's Mike. That's what I'm saying. We got we got to let go That's why we all wear the shoes or someone in the room is out the shoes on it. Just yeah, Mike They're talking about impact and like that's Mike Yo, Steph. I don't think step ever got swept Retour question. I know he didn't he we don't get swept said that's what I said You got to be good enough to win at least one game win me one game and maybe that's 63 point game was supposed to be it But he lost you lose got swept We won a lot though. Hmm. You won a lot. I'm saying once he figured it out. He figured out how to beat Jeff Hone a second I'm Yeah, cuz I said it's about so I'm about who you playing Charles Barkley and come alone and who's on 18 John stop your matchup like I'm talking about your matchup Everybody just name at the two at the two when they played the Suns like Joe Barclay Barclay was on the team, but the tool was like Dan Molley. Yeah, and I'm not disrespecting Dan Molley But if you Michael Jordan, yeah, that's easy, right? It does sound funny I'm like step guy played Westbrook. Yeah, Dame Lily It's Hall of Fame after Hall of Fame if we keep going through the Kyrie keep Well, Steph also gets fouled more than anyone else and doesn't get calls Tell him again. So you just add into you really watch ball Steph has the worst whistle ever Would you agree with that? I agree that his whistle is horrible terrible. I the refs don't like him He's like too flashy for them. I don't think it's that it's just that he's they probably want to see him go through with the play I'm like, no, go ahead. Just hit the three. Yeah We need to go call the foul for you Just go ahead finish the play you too good to be getting help like and I say here we are four chips If he could get one more like you said that would mean that the Warriors revamped and he won with like a third error team. So it's like he do that like you say he he's definitely He's the goat to me anyway, but that's a little bit biasing that I feel like no He's definitely a goat no doubt if you don't have him like up there up there Then I don't you're not what you are. Yeah, what do you gotta do? What you gotta do to get up there? Yeah, some dudes like don't have him top ten. I'm like What else do you get top ten exactly? Yeah, you're not really watching him. So you have as the best point guard over yeah over magic Yeah, all right cool. Well magic didn't know but he did unfortunately, so I'm here for the I'm here for the shift. Yeah, it's like if somebody's better with my eyes. I'm saying it. Yeah I'm not with the whole oh you had to respect everything because when we all get old Then we use the respect for the step in our area. Yeah, I'm gonna start it now. I got stuff as the goal So spurs thunder nuggets who you got coming out of the West? That's the tough one if everybody's healthy Disperse and you know why cuz it's nothing like having like two point guards you could trust They got a rookie point guard that you could really trust trust and I know Daren Fox that might be he's gonna be looking for a team next year cuz Hopper ready. Yeah, I'm already now. He's out of there. Yeah Not a do you know what though like every time you sit down and pick them big playoffs You get egg on your face cuz one guy gets hurt and then you look stupid But like it could be the eighth man. It can make all the difference in the world Yeah, yeah, cuz it's three and D off the bench who changes the series Yeah, cuz it's about you know the playoffs is when they prepare parents to stop your star The mother plays gotta like you just say be the eighth eight got eight got off the bench Or if they've got a rotation third got the bench that'll come in and win you a whole playoff game You only need four in a series. So yeah, all of that matter and and I say that to say The Lakers might get swept because Luke is out. No, I did one of them was like Nixon seven Then they were like Rockets and six. I'm like Rockets and six. How the hell are Lakers gonna win two games? Yeah, I don't see it. How is that possible? I don't see it and and and I don't it's not that the Rockets got such an outstanding Like lineup, but who don't can make them tough like yeah, so they I don't see them like Not playing tough if you gonna lose to the Lakers. It's cuz you're gonna let them Like like pretty much let them win. I don't see the Rockets giving away a serious with them as a coach Sweet. Yeah I'm gonna give bro in one game. Just one. I know he 41 Think adrenaline alone your son on the bench. It's LA come on. Yeah, I can't catch the ball. It's rough over there Ain't doing that. Hey and since we on the lake is you brought them up? JJ ready. How'd he get that job in the first place the podcasting? Just just podcasting right? Yeah, I might be next. I so I'm just I was just about to say I so I might be next Who you gonna coach? I might take over for JJ after they get swam you take over JJ I take over Mike Brown both look like them anyway. Yeah. Yeah, let's get them out of here. Yeah, make sense No, and then they replaced reddick with Nash See that okay now he does the podcast instead. Oh with the podcast I don't know like I said with with the coaching they so selective It's just like sometimes it's a random point guard that just finished playing that never coach a day in a life Yeah, or is JJ reddick fresh or first take now you coaching the Lakers will abroad in them It's like everything is relationships. Well, Doc Rivers still get jobs. Doc Rivers still gets jobs I can't wait to see what he can be a next year and I did and I did in someone how did how we got that? I mean They fired but if they won the chip they did yo, yo, you won the chip Mike like my own too Oh, he bought himself another year like what? What does that mean first the first Milwaukee chip since the 60s and then um Mike Malone wins the first chip in Denver history and then they fire him a year and a half later So it's like that's most crazy. I don't know. We ain't went nothing in New York Since the 70s and these coaches be to be last in seven eight years. Yeah, tip it oh God. What do you think about the tip of though? What I think about tip it oh, yeah Oh, I had cold for his fire run last year while we was up in the series three one because I know what he gonna do You're gonna tie it die die out die out our other players Yeah, and and by the time you get to the third series we lose to a team that we really better than like Indiana I'm still pissed off like I say Indiana took Shea and under seven Howley Burton don't get hurt in the first quarter. We might be looking talking about the Indiana Pacers as the champions. Yep That would have passed That would have pissed me off and now they're the number one pick Now they have what now they might have the number one pick. Oh, yeah I Got we got a we got to win this year before other teams start. Oh, yeah, you have to yeah You have to now. I don't know the questions. I about the Knicks is just the defense Bronson and cat It's a weird duo because neither of them really defend. Yeah, you you got to build around that you said none of them defend But you know bridges. Yeah, that's what you out there for OG. That's what you out there for in Josh Hart That's what you out there for we got Mitchell Robinson off the bench who I think should start Because what they do is Mitchell Robinson is foul him on purpose because he comes into the game when we are ready in a penalty So I'm like if you foul on him on purpose start him so that they could get us into the penalty Then we sit his ass down and the rest of us could shoot But the coaches don't be coaching. That's why they need to hire me If Reddick could do it who if JJ could do it This is what I'm saying. You know, I said it JJ I was coaching my son's team, you know, they was in sixth grade and crazy But we went undefeated and won the chip JJ Reddick never coached nothing because I was with him at ESPN you coaching No, you're not coaching you just talking at what point are you coaching? You had no time nothing. You just got up. He was He was doing ESPN and like you brought up. He was doing the what? podcast with LeBron, so when can you have coached? You just stole him the Lakers job and 2k the biggest job in the NBA basically the lake is LeBron all of that show time show time Yeah, I don't think I don't think he can get another job either. I don't think LeBron can pull rank like that ever again. He's Yeah, I don't yeah, I think them days is over Choosing the coach or something but we might be wrong if they pick in the Lakers to do something in his playoffs But I might be able to still pull some pull some Bro gets past the Rockets by himself. That's what he's gonna dispute a goat of All sports he's literally by himself all sports if he can beat the Rockets without Reeves or Luca He's got no support and he's not a podcaster coaching him. All right, so to me He'll move up you right If he beat the legacy, he doesn't move up. He doesn't work. He's got nothing I mean So that means so what do you say about KD if they lose like that? Oh Oh Be rough that's rough. That's rough. You gotta go down. So you got all the pressure on KD right now a lot of pressure. Yeah Damn, I just mean y'all be putting a lot on these people with all these mileage on them Kevin Oh, yeah, season 19. No, when he came back from the tourniquilies and all that right 27 I mean, you know what though you can't be losing a Jerry Vanderbilt. No, you're right We ain't gonna really let him off the hook for that. I see him curse out You know, he he commented on Kendrick Perkins page. He was like, what are you and that Phil rapper on that podcast gonna do if I lose like So he might see this and be like Yeah, watch out miles. What y'all gonna do if I don't beat the league is like That's a bad mindset. Think about what we're gonna say if you win, you know Right, I mean, well, what would happen if you won the chip somehow like think about that. Yeah, he not even thinking about He's not now. He's on Twitter. They're ready. They're ready. Most them bottom teams in the West kind of know What the one person that's different and this is why this is my favorite player is in Edwards He ain't gonna ever be like Pack it in guys playing okay, see now here. He gonna lace up his boots. You think can they upset Denver? Yeah, it wouldn't even be upset. It's like that's that's that's a pick them. Are you picking and I was are you picking on Yolk, it's yeah, but Denver's nice this year. They got They like they put it together. They got healthy at the at the right time. Yeah, Gordon came back Um, you got Jamal Murray in his groove and Yolk is just you know, he don't he don't miss when it comes to basketball I can't figure him out. You don't jump high. You're not fast. You're not quick, but you're the best playing the league I don't get it. You know his touch He what he's not the greatest touch I've ever seen Yeah, so we you got him rank in a sentence. He's just sentence like oh You 24 so your answer, you know, I guess he's five Five you have four centers better than yeah, yeah, let me see Karim Hakim Bill Russell will You said Bill Russell, yeah Yeah, you can't be 24 you was born in after 2000 He was what 17 and oh and an elimination get I mean he's you like numbers like numbers You so you know bill just doesn't defend Bill Russell is a center, right? Yeah, you ever 17 a game 34% from the field you know we shot 44% from the field how that's crazy. That is crazy So you're gonna hit say and hit is gonna do all that and say he's a better player the greatest defender Rebounder I saw him jump over a guy you ever see that video jumped over the dude his feet were over right So he should have been in the hot jumping you talking about basketball. He was a legit athlete Yoke it leads the league in assistant rebounds this year. He's nice nuts That's the crazy Huh, I'm not gonna die in that don't die on that hill. Please don't start it over You're top five sinners where you got yogi's we not we're not for Huh, we put him a four so you put in already definitely Karim and Akim You can't be Yes, I understand dream what you didn't see because he's he retired before he was even born Dreams like the most underrated though. I think at all them dream might be the greatest center ever, you know Oh Shaq Shaq Shaq I like all everybody you saying but when I go off of best Separate best and greatest greatest is like your resume You win in our a cold which is circumstance you accord and know your teammates and stuff like that Best is like could you score from every spot on the floor? If if the Lakers with Shaquille O'Neal on the team was down three before seconds. He's not even on the floor Yoke it's if your team down three. He's taking the shot. Yeah, so it's like I'm going with Jack wasn't down three a lot, you know, he what yeah five of these Got Kobe though. You know, but he won MVP in all three pitcher pitcher. Yo, get you in a Kobe level player pitcher Yo, get you in it was right now right now In Edwards that was Kobe. Yeah Shaq had that most dominant player ever he what would you say this to Shaq? You say what I say what would you say this to Shaq? Well, they all watching me shut no like I love Shaq. That's my favorite person at center Yeah, but when we ranking basketball, I'm not gonna waive a court in the relationships. I got yoki's number one I told you if I see it, I say it ahead of the king one Nothing's ahead of one. So also your top five is like all current players Like you're starting five. Is it all current guys? Nah, if I did a top five like a start lineup Jordan would be my my two But everybody you don't have James Harden or something Are you giving me the thought for see look and that's how you know rings is really because if we talk about what we watching I told my uncle this the other day had had him pull out the little here. He had left I Said if Michael Jordan played bones Holland 1v1 I Got bones He like what? Blasphemous, I'm like, yo, that is blasphemous When you say it but when you think about it 1v1 might garden boy. Have you ever? Like if I ask Michael triple package is crazy. That's 1v1. How you gonna stop it? Michael Jordan never even seen that let me now give me a tool MG's hands are like okay, and Them same hands gonna be reaching for something that ain't there is reaching for something that ain't there first of all you in Miami So, you know bones Holland's hit all last summer. I got a different respect for him I seen it in person up close like I'm at the broadcast table and he doing stuff like this I can't even see the ball and he did the craziest layup. I ever seen it in my life including everybody 1v1 you got Mike. Is he beating Kyrie? That's a good that's a good one, but I don't think Mike Mike is beating Kyrie because Kyrie is not 6x6 Bones Holland you have no Real advantage on him. Maybe you stronger, but when it's his turn on offense. I'm sorry like I don't think nobody's stopping him 1v1 I knew in your uncle argued about sports About the killer sports talk to Yeah, yeah, I see everybody in the room is like engaged or what I'm saying This is how it's supposed to be when you watching people talk sports and you like Let me check my phone something like that. It's just like no no no no no no and people like Constantly disrespect top analysts like the Stephen A's The even this guy says crazy, but he's entertaining skip Yeah, all these guys like you don't get it until you're in the chair and then you have that respect Yeah, you gotta make his skip said the funny shot I've ever heard of my life We say when he said on probably about the if MJ and LeBron played today He goes MJ would win if I trained him If I trained him skip. Yes Skip is unbelievable. I'm not gonna lie. He did say this is when I was like, you know what? I'm not listening to nothing. He says and it was kind of early in the first. Hey, dude after LeBron went at first chip on my Yemi and Deciding game against okc probably like 35 10 to 8 regular LeBron said back then Skip comes out and was complaining about certain things that he saw in that closeout game. Yeah I'm like, yo, no, you cannot hate on this man a day. He the day after he wins the chip and is the reason like That's what I'm just like everything is like who you like and who you don't know He's the peak LeBron. He said Brani had more of a clutch sheen than LeBron I'm not allowed to talk about Brani. He was he was boosting up Ronnie to hate on LeBron This guy is different like hating Olympics. He's gold Yo, man when the media went when somebody not even I'm not gonna put that on everybody but skip is one of them people like If I if I'm not for you like you gonna know it and everybody gonna know it And in me judging the sports know that yeah, he's good, but after the butt he goes he goes he goes crazy Me whether he said back here should have won. He's nuts. Yeah, I don't know where when he was talking about players better than Steph Bill Walton, what? He said bill Walton's better than stuff. When he said that Was Shannon sharp, I don't okay, so that must have been before post-post on ring ring for but even come on They'll war and that's what I'm saying. They need to revamp. I don't even like that They added 25 to the top 50 now it's top 75. No, yeah that list was whacked on no Dwight Which list the top 75 you said it was what no Dwight Howard So you gotta rip this is what I'm saying the way you got Bill Russell not to say he's not in top 50 That'd be crazy. Yeah, but The people of that era like you could like Yeah You know the names names you just like what who and then you go to the stats It's just like oh another play on the Celtics like how many players from one era one team and y'all gonna let in a whole thing Yeah, and that's just where I'm at with it. So how many do they have we'd have to check that out? Yeah, you're gonna have to check them. They might have a full The Celtic that bill Russell era Celtic team Nate Archibald. It was like eight Celsius And I might even be mixing errors, but it was just so much the coach to All the green jackets. I remember I watched it on YouTube again, and I'm like look at all these Celtic jackets You're not gonna tell me y'all was so great. Yeah, the only team that was winning It had to be five six teams in the NBA the way the way that the disparity with the championships was back done Who do you think the next meet in the conference finals? Who else is contending in these, you know what? The Hornets You see you got a up close in person to look at the Hornets last night It's something about them this year. That's like I Got them having like a special run. So they still got a game to win So you win that game and you play Detroit, which is a series everybody want to see that was a big fight Um, they two teams that clearly don't like each other They just played last week and they didn't shake hands at the end. It's like Let's see who wins the series because I got Charlotte being like a high-powered offense against a strong defense that can go Either way, especially when you got a Lamello ball type play shoot off one leg and do stuff You can't really prepare for if he's Kobe white. It's cold. We white off the bench. That was a big pickup um And what I compared it at Kobe white pickup in the West is I owe going to Minnesota because that gives them that guard that they didn't have that could run the end when you have Mike Holly Like when are they gonna let this go and I'm not saying cut him or whatever What somebody else should be playing he should be coaching this is Mike Mike Conley came in when Greg Odin came in Come on, so Greg Odin like my grandfather right now. I'm like Mike Holly came in that same draft. No, I saw clip the other day With someone defending someone and I did like a triple take. You know, I'm about to say well Taj Gibson Todd Gibson is in the league right now. What's he me on the jazz who jazz That was The jazz Taj Gibson is in the league. He's 40. I Saw him though. I saw him in a clip. He played it. He played for USC when I was three years old I did a triple. I'm like, that's a different Gibson. I'm like, nah, the same balls had everything It was Taj Gibson in the flesh in 2026. So what's wrong with that? The league is crazy It is a little bit you know, Taj No, yeah, Taj Gibson having a job right now is really crazy. That's crazy. How to him though Hmm for staying in shape and like getting the call and Yeah, I just was at a restaurant. I see Victor Oladipo. He like And Taj Gibson in life Oladipo can play I think Oladipo might even be younger than him Way way way and he's like I'm looking for you know a situation. Yeah, they've Conley and Taj Gibson and This is that's what goes to show it's about your attitude and she like cuz I know Taj Gibson Like just good God. Nice. Yeah, I'll find a greater God. So he's on the Rodstick because I can't see him playing right now. He was getting me. He was closing out closing out games No, he's closing out on a shooter in the corner. Oh, so you see him for like one minute All right, so he wasn't playing much but Again, like the good guys like kind of what's the name any way out the league see the Pat Bevs One day you plan and another day you just in Israel because you do shit like push Chris Paul in the back You're going media runs told him how people like that So you gonna exit a different way than the Todd Gibson arguing with Wayne Wade right now Yeah, you're gonna with the way I mean What are you doing? That should go to it go to where you see how we just was we got our opinions like you'll step better than such and so Yeah, Pat Bevs like that now his his take sometimes be crazy like You saying you picking Wade. No, you're picking Hardin overweight Ignoring Wade on the other end of the court and championships But then in the next the very next video he picked Kaua over KD and his explanation was Championships and defense. I'm like, yo, and that's just what I be talking about I say I'm gonna call you out Rachel Nichols voted a harden for MVP like multiple times and then before Luca hurt. So I can't vote Luca using that defense I'm like, yo, where was that with that? That doesn't cuz you know why it wasn't that hard and I Didn't play defense. It's almost like he couldn't he was like a heavy set Yeah, did a lot of offense. So you always look like you was dying out on defense Luca just look like but he is Like it like they're pretty fucking similar. They are but nah, how didn't it get like a Little still no, son. They do rock with one guy. I feel like I rock with the other or Or dog I agree I agree I agree and that's what I'm saying. That's what I was saying about That's all Okay, if you value even if you don't you don't right and yeah opinion could be whatever you want But on this in and that and when we got all this footage that we can cut back to You ought to just watch that you say cuz stuff just be sounding too crazy like you intentionally Making us hard gotta be like the most polarizing player ever though. Harden. Yeah You'll get dudes ringing them over D way and then they came out the list top 10 best pure scores ever and he was not it That's that's yeah, I wouldn't do it that whole list Should be should be done over it should be a graphic at here Would be like crossing certain people out cuz I can remember it vaguely a lot of people not being at that balloon They're like I'm like pure score it Yanis Come over you doing and I'm not saying it Like the honest isn't a great scorer because he is but he's not better than the greatest score is ever And that's just me like come on y'all. Yeah, whoever be making these lists like hi me he averaged 40 40 hardens that guy Yeah, I think I think um Them years where he was MVP or second MVP second again That was like one of the greatest three four year runs I've ever seen Right like imagine he played in the 80s 90s where he couldn't double team Yeah, what would he do same same thing bone howling we do yeah If you plug and play bones howling no in the in the 80s when average 30 You know you not do the same thing as hard But bones cuz he wouldn't average assists to but 30s bones howling in the 80s. You don't think they would bench him He's jacking up threes Probably yeah, you're right about that Would you jack up as many threes if Jeff Hornacek and Ms. Garden you and it's not like I'm picking on Jeff Hornacek That's the third time I said his name. Let me think about it now You're really a Jeff Hornacek hater. Not really solid to guard You ever 17 a game at point you see what I'm saying It's solid and then there's Mike and these is who you had to come on like that sound Percy Hawkins and stuff like that It's like we all got the shoes. So you playing yeah Yeah If Mike was so like transfer Mike in this league cuz you know the first thing they say Mike average 45 minutes No, he won't he wasn't that type of shooter, but He would kill though, but would he be what he was do you see him winning six rings in ten years in this Harder one rings now So do you see it so say I don't know six, but I think he'd be just as successful like individually I think it averaged like a 30 point triple double So he'd be Westburn Like a more efficient Better defending because he was a fish and that's how I mean he was shooting like he was crazy good at those pull-up jumpers cool Jordan no, but in this league right here. We like your defenders aren't like Reggie Miller who was like yeah, look like right cuz his teammates are gonna be great shooters too. So there's more room to operate I Just I just feel like Mike was a real benefit of like the luck of the drill because what if Scotty Pippin? Who was like the next best like athletic defensive slashing type of player? He's on your team too What if he was on the Knicks and Pat and Starks and then Jordan going six and oh he beat he's going to the finals over and over and over again. No, that's what I'm saying This you can say that about anyone right? No, I'm not gonna say that about anyone said about Jordan And this and in this league right here if if Mike was to win too straight Nobody's sitting back and just letting that happen. You know what they doing and ever is gonna call Wimby Yo, Michael Jordan over here while and you want to come here all I come over there Now we on the same team and Jordan got to be two superstars now Allah Stephan I'm right. They try to make super teams, but they didn't work back then Barclay and Drexler and all these dudes were teaming up, but it wasn't like they were too old I guess like they weren't in there. Yeah, that's that's the thing like Braun made it like brawn and waiting them. You doing this being like 28 years old. That was we doing it I was on middle of us. Yeah, yeah, like and and like Boston and them got put together like Ray Allen didn't know like I'm out to go play with poor kids KG didn't know I'm out to get traded to Boston. That should just happen They made this banana boat plane and that should just kicked off what's going on Nobody's sitting around and watching nobody dominate. You agree that Katie Warriors would be any team ever. Yes. Yeah I said as a goat you gonna give him another goat type player. Yeah, it's not even fit Yeah, and they would have three p'd it if the rent didn't get here against Toronto Which which and clay and that's why injuries change everything because that koala run put him in a different like stratosphere as a player. I don't got him top 10, but shitty top 20 That run like dirt got that run in 2011. You just sometimes you just need that run Facts now koala did that though. Yeah, I did it. I got it. I mean like I said though KD don't get hurt They beat them now then you wouldn't really you wouldn't praise the final appearance that Toronto would have if they lose to go No, I'm not team was stacked that Raptors team. Yeah, you ever go back and look at it Yeah, well, it's on cuz I just one of them stuff losses. I don't like you know like Lowry they have Marcus Saul a Baca and then you're like wait, they had norm pal They're friends in fleet. They had OG Yeah, I mean oh gee wasn't playing but yeah, yeah Yeah They might have been able to be the word they had oh gee and they were stacked. Yeah, they were stuck norm pal like just Off the bench being fleet. These are all like 35 million dollar guys now. Yeah, definitely good team So who you got this year? Oh Cuz you could come from a unbiased but as hard for me to answer that question my team one of them teams Who you got near being a part of love? I like your spurs pick. I Like your spurs pick I'm gonna go to Spurs wait, what's my respect to go to the I pick them to go Well, you can't beat the Knicks. No, I didn't I picked them to go to the finals. Don't make me a Don't play cuz I like this podcast start beef I picked my Knicks to beat the spurs Don't do that cuz they don't cuz they're gonna be wanting it. Oh, you want them to want it and watch it Oh, you good at what you do you go to Sam pit good. What you said? Um, I like your spurs pick Wimby greatest defender ever Right come on. Who'd rather have defending the paint ever Somebody with a little strength on him, but he's just like you can't shoot near the paint Says who says says Yokech. You see the game last week Right over his head Outstretched arms can't fix scratching his head after can't figure it out. Yeah Greatest son ever. It's levels to this. Yeah, still got learning to do You don't think one means in a past that's defended. I don't think one means in a passive But the what when he's in a past Yokech And what basketball No, I think one reason to be the Separate Yokech. I swear I watch a Denver game Every shot they get is a good one And it's him. You don't need a point guard Jamal Marino point guard. He's a two You got him out there. Everything else just falls in a place I mean Aaron Gordon like just kind of don't have like an offensive role don't need it like he gonna find you and Yo, Yokey's man like the passing con is separates him from everybody else. He rebounds like a center scores like The best one of the best score is and then is that the passing separates him That's fine. Everything is a good shot. Huh? He's the best today. No doubt. That's that. Yeah, we're arguing that you don't You know, you're watching well, I agree And they also want to get you saying best you saying best play overall. Oh, yeah, Yokech right now You got him over Shay? Yeah, right now Shout to Shay though. Hmm. Shout to Shay though shout the shit Yo, man, every time forever every time I see how we just stamp Yokey Every time I think about stamping Yokey's like that She has a game on Sunday and he never ever ever disappoints No, he doesn't have 10 and 10 on the back of his 38. Yeah, but they be needing his buckets like when they need him It's on you double team him. It doesn't matter. He's taking it. I see him kill us I was like, you cannot cover him when I want. Yeah, he's impossible Yeah, he waits for the double just to split it. He's one of the very best ever when I want Yeah, he's literally unstoppable. So what he ought to do to make his way in the top 10 because he already has an MVP Yeah, I guess if you won it this year if you did it again, right? If you if you wins another finals MVP this year, is he top 10? He might be right there So is he already better than holding? Yeah, you already got him ranked the head of holding So you got shit. So you got him as a point guard or a shooter? It's a one I'm just saying just for ranking purposes. We're gonna one I guess he'd be a one So you got I can see be three so we we you do rank him in point guards right now This might be the hardest question in sports because four or three three all Tom Shay already. Yeah Who's three so you got staff magic and Shay is number three. Yeah, I had a Chris Paul and kid and Nash Oscar Robertson So if you if you had him as a shooting guard, we would you rank him? Oh Wait MJ Kobe Jerry West He's pro. Oh wait five You got Jerry US Yeah, I think Jerry West would translate today. He could shoot the hell out of the ball. They didn't even have a three-point line Clay could shoot He can't handle the ball at Jerry West was nice. He was yeah Like I said, you younger than me and I don't know about Jerry West. How you know you gotta study up Yeah, maybe I we got to like do like a live stream watching old games lately. Do they was they recording back there? Yeah, I don't see no footage. I don't see no Jerry West footage that wins me over like oh, yeah, the bag I don't see it you yeah How you got him top five over baggy shooting girls Jerry West was like that. How you know he's the logo Yeah, I'm a logo yo, they need to change a little the logo because because listen Harden is better than Jerry West man Consider argue with you about it by a lot to buy a lot by a lot and you go for what you like I said I go for what I see Jerry West Give me one highlight moment anything even when they say have a chick steals the ball Wasn't it stealing from Jerry West or something like that? What have you done? Now let me not say that because I don't want to I don't bring your podcast down I'm like you're smoking Jerry West, but I'm saying though like How how's he in your top five your top five? He's 24 So y'all got to get where I'm coming from with this He's 24 you gotta explain to me why Jerry West is in your top five shooting girls resume Rings performances stats and I'm looking at it and then I'm like he didn't have a three-point line So if he had a three and he was shooting from D if you watch his clips he's shooting from D All right, so right after this show we gonna watch the clips I'll make like a little Instagram video with you if you if you've proven yourself right, but you got to show me what you saw I'm not looking up nothing show me what you saw that convinced you and if it don't move me I'm coming back on this show in the summertime. All right pet last year We just playing the Celtics, right? Stephen a gives me the pass. I'm on the floor Jason Tatum shooting around This is the game that you know, whatever happened happened. That wasn't my fault But he's shooting around and before that he had Tim's on so I'm like, yeah, I saw you being funny So he's shooting and every time he's shooting on some warm-up. I'm like miss So he gets me removed. I was over here is making that noise like so I'm like I go down there Jalen Brown shooting around miss doing the same thing to him. So they told me I can't be on the court move me up and Then I had said something to somebody that had on the Celtic fan and a Celtic jacket in the garden Yeah, and it was like who you in here with like so at this point. I ain't trying to get away in trouble I'm like Nobody like it was like no you're lying go up there with with the people that you came with so now I'm in the skybox and I got the text message like Listen now one unless you get a ticket you can't like so I'm banned on some media shit All right, well, I got to start throwing watch parties where we could have fun and act like me and not getting trouble I bet I'm more fun anyways Anyway, I think you'd be invited to parade who you you me You can't ban your I am afraid I am afraid you can't keep me off the streets I had my own parade after we beat the Celtics. I'm gonna show you the video. Maybe you could put the arm No, we got a guy who does it splices the B roll. Oh, yeah, I bet so I think you might have the same guy Yeah, you don't have to see shot the Harlem. I was all through the streets I was on top of like street signs and stuff like that And they were like, oh, what if it a fellow it was suity as fans. Oh, you know what separate me Unless they're cutting you a check don't don't represent them. Yeah, there you go. Yeah. Yeah, don't don't represent the world I need this I need this type of freedom put you on the show like don't exactly I need this type of freedom. So whenever you need like a co-host we could like Stephen and skip. Yeah, let's do it Let's get back. Yeah. Yeah, I'm down My guy, yeah, good show, Josh Smith. Josh Smith