JILL SCOTT: MILLION DOLLAZ WORTH OF GAME EPISODE 357
100 min
•Dec 21, 20255 months agoSummary
Jill Scott discusses her journey from North Philadelphia to becoming a Grammy-winning artist, covering her early struggles, creative process, motherhood, and new album 'To Whom It May Concern.' She reflects on resilience, the importance of love and character, and her evolution across music, theater, and television.
Insights
- Adversity and financial hardship in childhood built unshakeable resilience and gratitude that shaped Scott's entire career and personal philosophy
- Parental guidance and mentorship from trusted community figures are critical for child development, particularly for boys needing male role models
- Authentic creative work emerges from listening to the material itself rather than forcing pre-written concepts onto beats or predetermined structures
- Cutting toxic relationships and surrounding yourself only with people who have experienced genuine love is essential for mental health and growth
- Giving back to your community through education and opportunity (like the Bluesbay Foundation) creates generational impact and fulfills personal purpose
Trends
Authenticity and vulnerability in music as counter to performative social media cultureImportance of experiential education and cultural exposure for child development beyond traditional academicsFemale artists taking creative control and rejecting industry pressure to fit aesthetic idealsMentorship and community investment as long-term wealth strategy for successful artistsTherapeutic and introspective songwriting addressing modern relationship and mental health challengesCross-genre musical experimentation and collaboration with diverse producers as creative evolutionSingle mothers actively recruiting male mentors and community support for sons' developmentGenerational wealth building through education funding rather than material consumption
Topics
Music Production and Creative ProcessChildhood Poverty and ResilienceSingle Motherhood and ParentingNorth Philadelphia Community ImpactArtist Independence and Creative ControlMentorship and Male Role ModelsRelationship Dynamics and LoveTheater and Television ActingEducational Opportunity and ScholarshipsPersonal Boundaries and Toxic RelationshipsSpiritual and Emotional GrowthMusic Industry Career DevelopmentBlack Male Identity and ConfidenceAuthentic vs. Performative LivingGenerational Trauma and Healing
Companies
The Roots
Philadelphia-based band that created jam sessions and Black Lily venue where Scott developed as an artist
A Touch of Jazz
Philadelphia recording studio where Scott recorded early music and developed her craft with top-tier producers
Arden Theater Company
Philadelphia theater venue where Scott performed and developed acting skills before television work
People
Jill Scott
Grammy-winning artist from North Philadelphia discussing her career, music, and life philosophy
Jazzy Jeff
Philadelphia producer who gave Scott her first studio opportunity and helped launch her career
Rich Medina
Philadelphia DJ and music curator who introduced Scott to Jazzy Jeff and supported her early career
David Banner
Producer who provided 400+ beats over 10 years and contributed significantly to Scott's new album
André Harris
Producer who worked with Scott on 'A Long Walk' and has collaborated with major artists like Usher and Mariah Carey
DJ Premier
Legendary producer who created the beat for Scott's song 'North Philly' and encouraged her to rap
Tiara Wack
North Philadelphia rapper who collaborated with Scott on the 'North Philly' remix
Adam Blackstone
Producer who worked on Scott's new album and has collaborated with major artists
Mara Brock Akil
Producer who cast Scott in a four-episode arc on the television show 'Girlfriends'
Quotes
"Everything that I have done and everything that I am has literally been a best way I could put it. It's like a breath behind my back. And I literally listen, I listen, turn left, I turn left, turn right, I turn right. I don't question."
Jill Scott•Early in interview
"When you go through things and you don't let it break you, it builds up like some type of deep resilience in you. That way, no matter what you up against, no matter what hard times you come up against, to another person, it would be like life changing. But to you, it's just like I've been through so much."
Jill Scott•Mid-interview
"I only rock with people who've been loved. If you haven't been loved, we're not going to relate to each other at all. And if we can't relate to each other on that one thing, you're dangerous to me and I cannot and I will not."
Jill Scott•Later in interview
"Nothing, nothing in the world will put confidence in your son like him knowing that he can defend himself."
Jill Scott•Discussing motherhood
"I think that's what love is. I think that's what my mom did. I think that's what parenting is."
Jill Scott•On parenting philosophy
Full Transcript
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We was in a group called Nine Stop because we would be singing Nine Stop. We used to sing around Philly. We used to go to all the churches and down area, Logan. It was deep, but things didn't turn out right. I don't know what happened. Gil wanted to believe in us. She kicked us out. She kicked us. She said we wasn't coming to practice. I didn't know you had to practice in a group, but that's another story. But we're right here. We're the cast-ooms. Y'all didn't want to wear the cast-ooms. Yeah, that's what it was. She wanted us to have these. It's a hard story. The pictures have come out. But first of all, welcome home. Thank you. Welcome home. How do I feel? It feels like a warm hug. It feels like an old shoe, like a good shoe. I could walk in it all day long. Feels great. It's so fun. We're right here. We're in the same room right here. Lae goes the legendary. He used to get busy in here. Lae goes, too. He used to get busy in here. All the time. What records you recorded writing this one? I recorded a song called, oh, I think I recorded the one with Paul Wall here. He wasn't here, but I was. And I recorded Le Boon Vent Suite in this room. Oh, goodness. Honestly, the list is too long. I don't even remember everything. It was the best blur. It was the best good time. It didn't feel like work. We just got here and musicians played. And I just did what I came to do. And they did, too. It wasn't work. We never felt like it was work. It was just delicious time spent together with beautiful people. But I want to know, before you got to this room, how did it all start? How did you become? Wow. Got my little feelings hurt by some stupid guy. And I wrote a poem and I shared it with my girlfriends and they were like, you're a poet. You should, you should, you should write more. And I was like, um, okay, felt good to me. They told me to go to poetry readings. I went to poetry readings and people seem to like that, too. So I was like, all right, you know, I'm going where the love is. And I got paid like $15 to write, to read a poem at places. They give me car fare or whatever. And sometimes a free drink is cool. And I thought, maybe I could write songs. Maybe I could write songs. So I called all the producers I ever worked with, meaning there used to be jam sessions and Philly everywhere, all over the place. And as a poet, you go, you read your poems to live music. We had all kinds of singers and poets and emcees. It was this very, very eclectic, creative culture in this city. It was beautiful. So I called all the musicians I worked with, all that I, you know, saw, they saw me around, saw them too. Nobody wanted to fuck with me. Nobody. So I just kept calling the producers, the studios. I heard where all the studios were. This was one of them. And I called and eventually, after about six or eight months, and we calling every day, I bumped into Jazzy Jeff on the street and he was with Rich Medina. Y'all know Rich. I know Rich. You know both. Yeah. And Rich was like, Jazzy was like, who's that? He said, that's Joe Scott. And he said, well, he called me the next day. So I come to the studio and it was around the corner up the street, 444. So I go to the studio. I'm scared. I'm scared. I never really wrote songs before, but I'm here and I thought I could do it. So the guys, they never gave me the music. They kind of was like, yeah, what's up? I was like, oh, you the poet, Joe. That was so I was like, well, nobody gave me music. But I thought, man, if I don't say something, if I don't do something, I'm never going to get back here again. Like it took eight months just for somebody to invite me. So I asked to stay in Polly Earth, Thayna Lobby, because Jazzy Jeff Studio, it was a bunch of wood. And I knew how to do that. And if I did that, that meant that I'll be able to come back. So I stayed in Polly Earth Thayna Lobby. And the guys walk by, all these musicians walk by every day. And they listen every time the door open, see what they were doing. And then eventually somebody threw me a tape. And the tape had damn near 80% of who is Jill Scott on it. And that that was the beginning. I started like pestering them a little bit. Listen to this, listen to this, listen to this. And eventually they were like, yo, that's what's up. All right, all right. What's the first song that nobody knows about that? That made people say, okay, Jelly from Philly might got something. We was slipping. Because it might not have came out. It might have been something that made them recognize you. But then after they recognize you, you might get some better production, you might get some different production. And then it's like, okay, we noticed you from that. But now this is a different level. Did you have any of those songs? Honestly, the music that I was getting from A Touch of Jazz was all top tier. Everything was exquisite to me. I didn't have any frame of reference. Because you didn't have a chance to even mess up, huh? You had to put your all in everything. It was just easy. It was easy and innate, natural to me. So they gave me music and they gave me music with structure. I didn't know how to count bars. But I knew that all the music change that requires something else. Oh, this sounds like, okay, this is the hook. Okay, this is what a hook is. And this is okay, but another verse, I get it. I didn't learn how to count bars for a long, long time. I just, I promise you, y'all, everything that I have done and everything that I am has literally been a best way I could put it. It's like a breath behind my back. And I literally listen, I listen, turn left, I turn left, turn right, I turn right. I don't question. I don't ask a bunch of questions. If it feels right to me, then typically something as good as going to come of it and then I do it. And that has been my whole life, my whole life, my whole life. So, and I just try to remain really excited about it. Yeah. Because it's good. I don't have to, it's not complicated. All right. But did you have that, did you have that energy when you was walking the halls of girls high? How was that? Like, I felt honored. Girls High is one of those schools, academic plus school. It meant a lot for me to be in there because I went to Greenfield. My mother got me Greenfield. I went to Pierce Elementary first. And I got in a lot of fights. And this girl named Stephanie, she hit me in the head with a brick. Whoa. Because she hated black ass. And my mom went to the school. I don't know when it happened. I just heard the sound. She put it in the book bag. It was like, I wasn't fighting Stephanie. Stephanie was supposed to be in the sixth grade. I was in the third. Stephanie was beating her voice. I wasn't fighting Stephanie. But nonetheless, she put the brick in the book bag and hit me in the head with it. And my mom got me into another school. Greenfield, downtown, 22nd and Chestnut, air conditioning, rugs, lockers, and stuff, lunch. Hit her baby upside the biscuit. You know what I'm saying? I could have fucking died. Literally could have died. That's when you knew you got a concerned black beard. Yes. And they matter. Right. Because normally it goes to hit you upside the head, your parent go down there. She cussed everybody out. Mike swing on a couple people, but you take your ass back to school. Your mom was like, what the hell, my baby in the head with a, we out of here. We out. We out. She talked to a doctor friend and pulled some strings. But the point was, I was at Greenfield in a class with kids that was drooling. And I don't understand why I was in this class. Then I asked questions. Like, where are you from? Fourth grade, North Philly. Where are you from? 28th Diamond. Where are you from? Like the 16th area, just naming places. And it was all North Philly. And I was like, Oh, so it here, because I'm from North Philadelphia, which is considered the bottom. I'm also dumb. Oh, I knew better than that. So when I got into girls high, which is an academic plus school, I felt like I had already climbed the mountain top. I proved to myself number one, that I wasn't dumb. Two, it was in North Philadelphia, this beautiful pink marble hall school. And shit. Now I'm on the side of the high school. Like this is this is the craziest life I've ever had. If I had other ones, I don't remember them, but I'm telling you, this one is the best. This thing has just been like sweet. The whole ride. And it's still going. Well, was it sweet when they kicked you off the group though? I don't really care. I mean, I got kicked out of the group. You also so you always just had that kind of fucking I don't care. It wasn't so much like, fuck it, I don't care. It was just like, okay, there's something else around the corner. There's something else to be excited about. My mother did that. So my mother's ex husband was not a good person. He did a couple of things. I don't have to list all the bad things he did. But he would pick me up from preschool and take me to the go go bar. For any of you that are too young to know what a go go bar is, it's where the ladies would dance in their panties. And this is my thinking. And strip club strip club was a go go bar. Yeah, titties out panties on and you get dollars in your panties. That's how I looked at it. So he would take me there with him. And the nice lady behind the counter would give me milk or Coke, Coca Cola, and I would sit there and then the nice ladies would give me dollars out of their panties. So I don't see this man anymore, but I'm still going. I still visit the nice bar ladies. I still get milk, free milk, free Coke. And the nice ladies give me dollars out of their panties. So my mother asked me, she said, well, Jill, what do you want to do when you grow up? I said, I want to be a go go dancer. No, you didn't. Yes, I did. What did my mom, her that she? That's when everything changed. She said, oh, no, no, no. I don't know what the fuck is going on. But she said something similar to it. And that's when she started taking me to plays and ballets and the art museum. And she would sneak me behind her and Ortleaves. I sometimes I'd be under her coat, walking in there, Ortleaves listen to live jazz. Like she changed the trajectory of my entire life. Now, do I think I was gonna be a go go dancer? It just seemed nice. They didn't have to wear clothes. They got dollars in their panties. It seemed cool. And you're walking in on Jill with me. That was crazy. I think I would still feel just like this. I think it would still be the same kind of existence. Cool. Listen, thing is pretty. I love it. That's what's up. Now, now, now, now they got a big bro and now they got a big moral. You want girls high. How did that feel? Great. When I was in high school, we had financial challenges. So oftentimes, I didn't have like a coat or tokens. And I missed, I missed like 48 days of my senior year. Because I couldn't, I couldn't walk. I mean, I could walk with you. Come on. I could walk from 23rd and Lehigh to no one else. That's like, 30 in the morning. Right. Get there by eight. Maybe class started at 750. Oh, yeah. 740. So forget that. So I didn't graduate. I wasn't able to walk, which was devastating to me. This episode of Mean House Worth a Game is brought to you by Planet Fitness. Everybody can get stronger at Planet Fitness. High-value membership that supports any fitness journey. There are over 2700 club locations with most open 24 hours. 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But you had fulfilled your dreams. That's all I did. That was one of your childhood. I'm kidding me. That's all I do. I know it's like Erkso, probably, to people. No. No, no, no, no, no, no. I know it's Erkso. It is. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's always been Erkso. That people, it bothers people. It always has. Stephanie hit me with a head, in the head with a brick. You know what I'm saying? It's like, it didn't get better from there. You know, it just got different, you know, from people. Stephanie, she ain't forget that. So you walk lightly with you. Years later, Stephanie saw my mother in the Kingdom Hall. My mother is a Chauvel's witness. Stephanie was in the Kingdom Hall and came up to my mother and apologized. Years later. You ain't forget that, though. Why not? Did you? Why not? I don't know what she was going through. We were children. But y'all was like seven. I was in the third grade. Then you was eight. She had to be, yeah. And she had to be. She was in the fourth grade, supposed to be in the sixth. Yeah. So she was like, yeah. Who knows what was going on there? She was 12. And I didn't die. But you could have, Jim. I could have. Then we wouldn't have had all that fucking beautiful music. I could have. I forgive you, Stephanie. I did well. I'm all right. So, Stephanie walked right here, though. You had a little bag with a little, just not a brick with a little rocket that you ain't gonna give her. It might be, it might be why I need to take naps. It could very well be that. I don't know. Stephanie the knock is some naps. It's a child. I'm all right. Some go left. How was it? How did it feel, you know, like coming from 20th Thursday, you don't know Philly. And you say, you know, you perform for kings and presidents. And just like coming from North Philly. I don't, you know, a lot of people don't understand what North Philly is. No, they don't. And they don't understand. It's like, even if you, even if you're doing right, it's still bad coming up against you every day. Every day. It's challenging. It's like, you know, you see a lot of, it's just, just seeing your parents struggle to try to figure it out for you every day. And it's still got to have your mind together to walk past the corner. You got to make it past the corner. And you still got to get to where you're going in order to be something. So how did it feel when you was like, yo, I arrived. I'm here. I made it. When I saw the mural on the side of girls high school, I cried so hard. I cried. I could not stop crying. I cried all my makeup off because I remember that. I remember not having tokens to get to school. I remember being at home on the day I was supposed to graduate. And all my girls, high girls got to wear their white dresses and and, and, and, and go to the academy of music and walk down that, that hall that I had been to because girls high gave me the opportunity to see the building and my mother took me there for anything that was free. You know, so I saw a lot of performances there as well, but I didn't get a chance to do that. And I had to go to summer school that year as well. So I was embarrassed and I was sad, like humiliated because I wanted to go to girls high so bad and I wanted to prove something to Norm Philly, you know, that you gave, you ain't holding back. But then I failed. So years later, when the, when I saw the mural, I just could not stop crying. It's, it's overwhelming to imagine this life. It's been plenty of things that should have stopped me or killed me even. I got shot at across the street from my house. Some guy looking for Vincent in a car. Again, I was with Rich Medina. Damn rich rich man. Across the street from my house, you know, like, of course we had crack heads and the breaking of your place is still your vacuum cleaner, you know. It's always something. There was always something walking the streets in the last couple of days. It's just like I survived so much shit. And it wasn't for whatever reason. It was never heavy to me. And that's my favorite part that I always had this little light always. And I enjoyed it. So what, there's no need for me to front on the light I got. Right. Like this is bad. This didn't work out. This didn't play how I wanted to. The boy came over to paint my mom's, you know, bedroom and stole the money out of my jewelry box I hadn't saved in all summer. You know what I mean? Like shit like that happens. But you're living a life lesson. But all of that was just life lessons. Absolutely. And in every lesson, this was lesson. Don't leave your money in the jewelry box. You never do it again. You feel what I'm saying? And when you go through things and you don't let it break you, it builds up like some type of deep resilience in you. That way, no matter what you up against, no matter what hard times you come up against, to another person, it would be like life changing. But to you, it's just like I've been through so much. I believe in God. I just know I'm going to get through what I'm going through. This too shall pass. This sucks. It hurts. It's embarrassing. Little wounded. You know, I might have to go somewhere, you know, licky wounds would come back out. But that's the point. You don't give up on life because something didn't go your way. Absolutely. I worked two jobs trying to get through Temple University. It was hell. I missed so much fun stuff because I was working. Trying to pay my tuition. And my father asked my dad, I was like, I need $800. And he was like, okay, I'll lend it to you. I asked to borrow it. So he lent me the $800. I worked. I got the money. I had it in the envelope. I was ready to pay him back and wrote a nice little note. Thank you so much. But I believe that my dad was going to give me that money right back. I thought he was like, oh, I'm proud of you and give it right back. Because that's what I would have done. He took that money and put it in his inside jacket pocket. And I was devastated. But I never had to ask a man for a dollar because of it. At that moment, I was like, I would never, never ask a man to borrow money or get money. So now I'm not going to do it. I'm just going to say this though. Technically, pops was right. Hell, you asked the borrow that you did. I did ask the borrow, but I just thought he was going to give it back to me. See, then she go, plant it. See, you know what I mean? I really thought that. He's going to be like, oh, I'm so proud of you. He probably was supposed to do that. Yeah. Like, you know, 85% of dads were supposed to do that. But I ain't going to judge your dad because I don't know what he was going through at that time. Well, whatever it is, you're going to do. You might have had anything to give to you. But he stretched it out thinking, well, she ain't going to pay me back, but that's my baby. And then you came back with the 80s and we went, oh, I need to do it. It could have been. It could have been. See, I never thought about it. See how you do it. But it was a life lesson and I feel like I needed that. Like, okay, I may not have it. I'm not going to have it. Okay. But sometimes, not sometimes, I can say like all the times, the things that I've went through that was like that is what shaped me to be who I am. He'll tell you from the gate since he's gotten out of prison. It's been like nine years. My production people would tell you, I don't play over nobody. Shit. I overpay. Faster shit. Oh, what we owe you 300. Here for 400. Thank you, bro. Because I don't play over nobody. Nothing because of how I was. You feel me? Yeah. At some point in time, I got something from somebody and I ain't have it to pay them back when I was supposed to have it to pay them back. And the way they talk to you and made you feel was like, oh no, I ain't never going through this shit no more. No, here you go. Go get your money as soon as you get it. It's like, so that's why I am how I am. So those things that we go through and shape us to be who we are today. You know what I mean? And you needed your dad to, because he might have been a boyfriend taking the van. You might have been asking a boyfriend for some money somewhere down the line. Pop cut that right out. Never did it. Never did it. Never. He said that is how parking you was crushed. Thank you, daddy. Thank you. That's what I'm saying. It's like all the lessons that you get, all the things that deter you are really the impetus for your greatness. Right. These, like you said, these things are character building. Right. And you learn as you go. You're not nobody's perfect. I'm divorced twice. Like there's no way that I've had like, you know, a perfect existence. I've lost more money than people have ever made or ever will multiple times. Then divorce? No. Oh, I was going to say. On some other shit. You know, but that's, that's his life. I was about to say they took half of your chicken. Huh? I was about to say they took half of your chicken. No, they took some of it though. They did. No, the first one. The first one. Respectfully. Respectfully. It's cool. He's good. We're good. No love loss. That's my friend to this day. Yeah. Now the second one. Not at all. See, we'll miss Jillie. Just get another. Now, now, you know, your music is filled with so much beauty and love. Right. Yes, sir. When was your introduction to understanding love? Honestly, from the beginning. My mother wanted me so bad. She wanted, she wanted this baby so bad. And she just, she was just very, and is still just very kind to me. Very thoughtful. You know, she put dimes in my penny loafers. You know what I'm saying? Like, damn. At the time, it was a lot. I know. We had pennies. Kept my hair done. Read me stories. Got me a teddy bear from the thrift shop that spoke German. When we didn't have, just like keeping my palate alive. Right. And interested. Right. So if we didn't have money, and I didn't know until later that we were eating a whole bunch of potatoes, because we was broke, I didn't know. Because she made potato soup like, and she made french fries. And she baked potatoes, and she made potato cakes. Potato salad. Potato salad, potato soup. Like, we didn't, I didn't know that. And she would spend the money on chives. What the fuck is a chive? Yeah. You know what I mean? But, but it made it, and then she would play music, you know, from around the world. And we would have these dinners, and it would be by candlelight. What I know. All I know is it's special. And it's just for me. You know, me and my grandma. My mother would say things to people like, Joyce, where you going? I'm just going home to make love to my family. And I know people looked at her like, what are you talking about? But I got it. Because it was, you know, she picked somebody's flowers, put them in a little vase. And we're in North Philly, and they're shooting outside. But in here, it's some. It's love. It's sweet, and it's clean. And it's, and I'm cared for. You know, just sometimes it'd be potatoes. Right. But the beautiful thing is when you grow up in the ghetto, and you do got good parents or a good mother. But a lot of times you don't even recognize how much you're struggling until you get to a certain age. You know what I mean? And that's opposed to. Like you don't even realize that you're struggling until you get to a certain age to be able to realize that my mom really ain't got it. Like when it comes, when it comes to realize like, okay, that's why we eat so many goddamn potatoes. Because potatoes is cheap. You can make a whole bunch of different shit with them. Okay, then my mommy didn't really make you love your mom even more because you like, damn, man, my mom, she just, she just goes through the, I never knew he was going through this shit. And to now I know we going through this shit. She's gonna be like, we vegan. What's vegan? We don't eat meat. We don't eat meat. Since when did you like mama love steak? Listen, I used to love pig ears. Yeah. It wasn't playing. My grandma's a Rocky Mount. Yeah. Yeah, I ain't playing. I ain't chilling. I ain't chilling. You're not crazy. That isn't Philadelphia when everybody. 60% was Muslim. I love pig ears. Listen, that's what it was. That's what it was. So I know you love them. What's them goddamn pork chips? Pork rinds? No, that was my grandma's. She loved it. You love pork rinds. Barbecue pork rinds. I'm off that, you know, I mean, at that time it was over. No, but I'm saying back then. Right. Did you love them back then? No, she did. I didn't. Oh, you ain't really? I didn't get it. But what about pig ears though? The consistency I liked. And then if you paired them with potato salad and collard greens, it was like, and then my grandmother's, what a cornbread? To me, that was just everything. Like that's when I did something really good. And when I did something great, my mother would go to the confectionary and she would give me a little box of chocolate covered raspberries. And they would wrap it in white paper, white wax paper, and put the powdered sugar on the top. And then I would take like, I don't know, two or three weeks to eat them because I was like, and then I'll put it back. It was so good. Yeah. Like it was always a love, like some level of kindness. Yes. In a crazy wild world as people shooting and, you know, the neighbors, one summer, like seven or eight of my homeboys just died. Got murdered. My boy, Cortland, who, I heard, you know, I heard he was selling drugs. I heard, I never saw really. I mean, I think I just excused it, honestly. But Cortland was the boy who would want me to read him Edgar Allen Poe on a porch. And he would walk me to the bus stop. And when he saw my mom, he would carry the groceries. I can use a nice boy. I've been privileged to be around nice boys and awesome grown men. So I have a lot of love for black men because I have reason to love them. Have I been done wrong? Yeah. Have I, you know, had failed relationships? Yeah. But that's not going to stop me because my life's experiences showed me that you just might be swimming in the wrong pool right now. You know what I mean? You're choosing things over substance and character. You know, it might look good on paper, but not in real life. You know, it happens to us all. No, I mean, when I give out a million dollars worth of game, I tell, I tell a lot of women that. 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And there was some stuff, like I said, there's plenty of stuff. But that foundation of love is how I build everything. That's why I pour love into the music. Even when I'm saying something that may be deemed as harsh, I don't know, it's never harsh. It's direct. It's direct. And some people can handle it. Some people can't. I recognize that what I do is not for everybody, but for the people it's for, it's really for them. And we've been riding together for 25 years. And I'm very, very grateful for that. But just listening to you speak about your mother, it seemed like you got a lot of your ways from your mom. Sure. You know what I mean? And my grandmother. Because like the things you say that your mom was doing, mothers is not doing that in North Philadelphia. You feel what I'm saying? So like, you know, like, and I'm not saying that mothers in North Philadelphia don't let any kids know, but a lot of times it'd be so much going on that. China's alive. Yeah, it'd be hard to even take the time to do the extra things. You feel what I'm saying? Like you said, your mom would always try to find a way to do something extra. Just, you know what I'm saying? But, you know, a lot of times you be having a single parent, mom working two jobs, you got an either older daughter or older son, and he taking care of younger siblings after school. And so, you know, your mom really, like, I think poured a lot of love into you. Like, and you just radiate with it. You know what I'm saying? Like your music, everything, you know what I mean? Your personality, your glow, your voice, even how you speak is just like, anything just seemed like it's so much love in it. It is. You know? Now, I need you to understand that also around 14 that stopped, my mom went through something and she called it persecution, like a spiritual persecution. And at that time, my grandmother and I, we had to figure it out. So I started working when I was 14 and paying bills because they had to get paid and we wanted electric water and stuff. Yeah. You know? So I've been working for a long time and between me and my grandmother, we really were able to, that's why, you know, couldn't get the tokens, couldn't get a coat, you know, those things. I just don't have any, I don't have any reason. And I love, like I love my life. I love what I look out of the window every day. I love the people that I meet. I have learned this, that I only rock with people who've been loved. If you haven't been loved, we're not going to relate to each other at all. And if we can't relate to each other on that one thing, you're dangerous to me and I cannot and I will not. I'm 53 now. So this age has been like a click, like a light switch. And I am a ninja when it comes to excusing people from my life. Cut niggers off. All the way. My sword is hot. Oh, shit. Oh, you did some dumb shit. My sword is long. My sword is black and it's on fire and you're cauterized before you know you're dead. And that is what it is. And I don't play about it. If you don't, you have to serve a purpose. Everybody has to serve a purpose. And that means maybe somebody's make you laugh. Somebody else to make you think, maybe somebody else to make you reconsider some things and check you, you know, in love because they've been loved. So they speak to you in love, you know what I'm saying? But the people who don't know that, I don't know what to do. Right. And at this age, you know, me being 49 years old. Are you? I ain't got time for the bullshit. Kelly, you're 49. Yes, absolutely. You don't look it. Yeah, this is my little cousin. He's 46. I used to wash him up in the tub. Take little poops in the tub. You like? Man, gotta clean it out. You like? But I did it with love. Y'all so cute. She's so cute. And then I do it with love. That's how you knew you was loved. You just put my head under the water. Trying to drown. Yeah, I don't want to throw that out there. But now you know what? He don't want to throw it out there. I don't want to throw it out there. Just saying. And he's throw me. You know what? It's like Philly seems something special. Late 90s, 2000s. Jilly from Philly. The Roots. Music Soul Child. What was Black Lily like? Talk about that. When the Roots did jam sessions, there was a lot of jam sessions, right? When I say the musicianship, coming out of those jam sessions was impeccable. Oh man. Everybody came from church, but they shed it. That's what you call it. A shed where you listen to some amazing jazz and you listen to some funk and you share music amongst each other. And you're playing these new things that are old to most, but they're new to us. And we were learning from each other. But the guys will get on the mic. And there was never space for us. You had to bum rush away and you know, fight you just to get the mic for a little bit and somebody will push you off or whatever. Just like that. You had to earn your stripes. Black Lily was created by the Jazzy Fat Nasty's and The Roots. And Rich Nichols, God bless his soul. Rest in peace. Rest in peace, sir. They created Black Lily. And that meant a place for the ladies to do what they do. To grow. To figure it out on stage. That's what we were doing. Who knew that all of us were going to have these lifelong careers. But yeah, it was scary and fun. And wild. There were nights where you could, like the energy were bouncing off of the walls. Everybody would be moaning and swaying seriously. It was powerful. It felt like religion. And you'd walk out of there in the night and the cold air hitting your face like, damn that was great. And then you'd go wash up at the IHOP and go to work. Did you ever see anything like that after that? Yes. What was it? Many times. At the Tabernacle in Atlanta, I was singing there one night and it was holy. There was a night, two o'clock in the morning for whatever reason. Actually, I really liked that. Doing shows at two o'clock in the morning. Because whoever's there, they came for this. They mean to do it. They're going to wash up at the IHOP and go to work. You know what I mean? So it's the same kind of energy in Amsterdam at Paradiso. Two o'clock in the morning. Scotland. Scotland felt like somebody had picked up the building and just dropped it. And everybody was scattered all over the place. But it was eclectic. It was as... When I say eclectic, I mean, there were so many different kinds of people. I didn't expect that in Scotland. What do I know? But that energy was powerful and powerful and altering. People left out of that space different. We were hugging. All these strangers, we just hugging and looking at each other. At the Nobel Peace Prize. Oh man, I didn't know I was closing. Nobody told me that I was the last person to go on. I'm just waiting there watching the show, all excited. And then I go on and we did what we came to do. And the audience went crazy at the end. And we walked off like, that was great. That was great. And I said, who's next? And they were like, you just closed it. I just closed the Nobel Peace Prize. It's heavy. What? And then after that, we go to the party. It's real stiff and uncomfortable. My homeboy Scott Parker pulls out his phone, jacks that John in. Next to, you know, we listening to Biggie. The place goes crazy. He DJ the whole night. We had, it was fun. Those folks let loose. It was great. I've had a lot of nights just like that. A lot of great experience. And that's what we're looking for as musicians. It's something that happens. It feels like you get lifted off the ground slowly. Slowly, then you're levitating and then you fly. And when you're flying, the band is flying with me. And there's nothing else like it. It is my favorite feeling. And I love being a mother. I love it. I love it. It's hard and it's necessary. But that feeling I cannot find. That feeling is everything. I live for it. Juicy. I just took you in the zone. You just went there with that. Let's take a long walk. Now, how has, how has motherhood been? Motherhood, at first I didn't know. What do you mean you didn't know? I didn't know. I was like, I don't know if I'm gonna do this well. That thing, that little person scared me. There's so much responsibility. I was like, oh, I need to write for four hours today. But he needs my attention. And he wants it and he deserves it. But I need to write. I need to get on my bike. I need to not do anything but what I want to do. And realizing that as a parent, like, you got to take that L a lot. And then you figure it out. You figure it out. You get what you need sometimes. He didn't sleep for about nine years. Nine years. The baby was up. Monday! Three o'clock in the morning. I didn't sleep well for about nine, maybe 10 years. And then eventually he started sleeping all night. That part. I have a son. I don't know about anything about being a boy. I mean, I know men, but I'm talking about being a boy. What does this mean? What might I do to fuck him up? I want to not do that thing. So I grabbed all my good brothers. I was like, I need y'all help. Show me. Tell me. Take him. Take him to the place. Show him how to fight. You know, make sure he's good with his hands. That's important. And he is. And he is. Make sure he's good with his money. And he is. Most of the time. I tell parents all the time, nothing, nothing in the world will put confidence in your son. Like him knowing that he can defend himself. Yes. You just see the change in the attitude and a lot of kids, they come in the gym, they be super timid. They single mom, single parent. They don't really want to do it because they, they looking around and they see other kids and they're younger than them and they better than them. And they don't really got the confidence. They start off, they like this and then you look at their same kid seven months later, he coming in to talk about, Mr. Gil, who I'm sparring today. Like now he like this. Should you like his whole confidence, everything about him just changed. And I noticed that like with a lot of kids when they know that they can defend themselves. Because you know, we living in a time in the era where, you know, bullying has always been big. But now bullying is different because bullying back when we was kids, somebody just beat you up and then whoever was there seen it and that was that. Now somebody beat you up. They recording it. Everywhere, you know what I mean? Everywhere. And humiliated. It's bad enough. You got beat up. But now everybody know about it. I want to talk about it. Imagine he was filming when she hit you in the head with the brick. Yo, all I remember was that sound. That would have been everywhere. Jelly from Philly hitting the head with the brick when she was fourth grader. No, third grader. Eight years old. Third grader. So it's good that you, you know, even though you're a mom, you one guy with some brothers. Of course. And had to, you know, show them some boy things. I don't know anything about being a black man. No. Now one day of my entire life have I ever known. But it's a lot of women out here that don't do that. They don't go seeking the brothers and then they just, you know, he just growing up and he just got to figure it out himself. You know, without judgment, because that's not where I live. This is mostly an observation, not a judgment. No, I ain't judging, but I'm just. I don't think you are. I'm just saying coming from me. Yeah. You know, people get like, oh, she was trying to judge us. And I'm not. What I am saying is that I personally think it's imperative to, if you're going to have a son that you make time to be, to find decent, not just decent minded, decent, spirited men to help guide your son. Yeah. Because I don't relate. I remember the first time I saw the erection in the diaper. I was like, what do I do if I fold the diaper over? Am I going to break it? Like, I don't know. I don't know. I've never had a penis. Now one time, I'm sure that's going to be like a, but I never had one. I don't know. I don't want to, I don't want to mess them up. You're going to mess them up. You're not called people. What do I do? You know, like simple things like that. Oh, I'll break it. Do it. I did some research, asked some friends and asked, what do I do with the toilet and the penis and the toilet portion? Put some Cheerios in the toilet. Let them aim is fun. I was like, hey, that's what we're going to do at a great time. They potty potty train like that. He shoot Cheerios in it. Yep. Because they don't sink. That's funny. It's been fun when you asked about parenting, like you have to figure that I watched a Cosby show and I always loved the lessons that they had in that show. Much of them. A lot of them. Love that. So my favorite was, that must have been about four, three or four. And I was leaving. It's time for me to go hit the road. And he says, mommy, don't go with that face. He never said that before. He always said, bye, mommy. Have fun. Do good. You know, this time he said, don't go. And I was like, God, I'm not going to go. So I called everybody. So a whole bunch of stuff that has to happen when I don't go. You know, it's a whole bunch of people that pay pay is different when I don't go. So I called us and said, listen, I'll be there. I'll come tomorrow, but I can't leave today. So I told my nanny, I said, please just go home and come back tomorrow. She said, okay, so we just had this time between he and I. So I hit the circuit breaker, turned everything except my refrigerator off. So there's no TV. There's no Wii game because that's what we were playing. The pool is going to be warm for so long. And that's what we like to do. We like to swim. We like to play the Wii. We like to watch movies. You know, so these things were no longer applicable. And he was like, mommy, let's watch this play. Let's play the Wii. I said, yay. It doesn't work. Ah, no electricity. Okay, mommy, let's watch a movie. I said, yay. Which one? We picked a movie. It doesn't work. No electricity. Time for lunch. I'm making cold sandwiches. He's like, mommy, can you make mine hot? Like you like it. Like I like it. Can you make mine hot? And I was like, ah, now the gas is on. I just like, I was like, oh, you know, the gas doesn't work. I said, when I don't go to work, we don't have electricity. And hot food. And we can't turn on the TV or play the Wii. We can't do any of those things. When I don't work, he was like, oh. And we ate by our cold sandwiches by candlelight. And it was nice. And eventually he said, mommy, can you go to work? I said, I free you anything. That was a good one. Listen, trick them. You gotta have my control. You gotta trick them. You gotta have my control like on a Friday. They have to understand it or it's not real to them. They think we're supposed to just give them everything. No, you have to earn things in life. And when he didn't pick up his clothes, those clothes went to somebody else. They just disappeared. Mommy, this is later. Mommy, you seen my jeans? You know the ones. And I was like, mm, mm, mm, mm. They went to somebody who appreciated them. That's where they went. You know, we got them lights back on. Let me close. Mom, can we play the Wii? Yeah. Do electricity. Mommy, go back to work. Right. I like playing Wii. He understands. Absolutely. So then a parent is like, I've only had this one child and I just plan on doing the best I can. I mean, literally the best I can. This kid, he just went to Tanzania over the summer to get a Scuba certification. Oh, you're going to be fresh. And it's not what you have on. It's what you know. It's what you experience. His palate is exquisite. Absolutely. When it comes to food, when it comes to culture, when it comes to music, he made us a playlist for my photo shoot yesterday. And on a playlist, I had muddy waters and many rippertons. Damn. You know, like, yeah. He's 16. Oh, he cold. Feed him. Feed him all the goodness you have. And where you don't have it, go supplement. Find somebody else that knows something that you want your kid to know. I think that's what love is. I think that's what my mom did. I think that's what parenting is. And so far, so good. I won't know how I did until he becomes a parent. Absolutely. Now, you know, how was it for you going into TV and film? From start down here. From coming from this room. And now you're in TV and film. You were Tyler, you're doing this. Like, how was that? Like, when at first, you know. I mean, it was scary. I'm always scared. But I got a call. And Mara Brock I killed. It was like, you want to be her girlfriends? And I was like, I love that show. Yeah, I want to be her girlfriends. I didn't know I was going to have an arc. An arc is four shows, not just one. It's not a visiting. You know, it's four episodes. I was like, oh my god. But I had been doing theater. I did theater on Second Street at the Arden Theater Company. And, you know, so I was prepared to act. But TV, I didn't know not to look at the camera. You know, I had to learn that on site. I didn't know this stuff took so long. So I would do great first, second time. Then about third time, I was like, didn't you get it already? And they're like, that angle. I didn't understand how many angles it took to shoot a TV show or film. So I kind of learned as I went along and asked questions and, you know, failed. It got some stuff right. Absolutely. Damn. I know. Because you be, you good. I mean it. And that's the crazy part. You be in the roles though. Thank you very much. You're being a good, I'm like, yeah. Thank you very much. My favorite, my favorite was when I was on SVU. And people still think it was like terrible, but I loved it. I pretended that my character hated her sister who was paraplegic. And she put a soap in the sock and was beating her sister who could feel, but couldn't respond. I loved it. I loved every part of it. Ice tea grabbed me up through me against the wall. I was like, it's like in my mind. I was like, it's ice too. It's ice. See, I made it. This is the best ever. I enjoyed it. It was awesome. You want to play something you're not. See how you can grip them up when they love you. This is ice. It's great. I love it. Tell love you better not grip them up. He told me that day. He said, he said either, he said, you're a hoe or you're a pimp, but you're always going to be one or the other at any given time. Sometimes you're the hoe. Sometimes you're the pimp. Sometimes you're the pimp. Sometimes you're the hoe. And I was like, damn, ice tea. That's television and film. If you're producing your own stuff, you're creating things, you're the pimp. You're a talent. I mean, the talent, you're the hoe. Made no other way to get around it. I'm fascinated by that whole culture. I got quite frankly. Love the hoes. So. Fascinated. How did you feel about why did I get married? I had a child. She was somebody I didn't know. Like, you know, she was experiencing like verbal abuse. She was going through hell quietly. So I liked it because it was somebody I don't know. It's like almost like anthropology, the study of people you don't know. So I liked it. Let's get into the new music. You know, it's been 10 years. It's been 10 years. Everybody been looking for you. Where's Jilly's been feeling? Like it's been like 10 years between albums. When inspired as an album, what was you going through? What was you thinking about? Love. The journey. Somewhat. That part. Yeah. Yeah, of course. Everything starts there. But letting people go was big in this project. Realizing that a lot of people are not getting what they deserve. I wrote a song called Don't Play. And I had noticed that on social media, like TikTok, a lot of women were complaining. And men too. But they were complaining that they weren't getting good loving. And I was like, what is this world? Where it's all like, you know, it seems performative. Everybody just doing it. So I wrote a song called Don't Play. It's kind of like a tutorial on how to do the shit. Because I want you to enjoy that. I wrote a song about letting people go. It's called Pay You On Tuesday. Because that's what they say. You know, I'll pay you. Yeah. Letting that go. I wrote a song about therapy because that's what I've been doing. That part. It's a lot of living in this album. It's a lot of revelation. Musically, it's a full spectrum. I had some wonderful musicians come in. And I feel touched all over, like literally. I know I was there like, oh, she's so, what do they say? What do they say? Freaked out or something? I don't know. I think that's what they say. I don't know. I just use my words and I mean what I'm saying. Like I feel touched all over. The musicianship on this project and the people that gravitated towards it. I couldn't be happier. Like I couldn't have ever even imagined who is on this album. Like, oh my God, this is what I always wanted. You know, so, yeah. There will be some controversial things in the album. I'm certain of it. And some wonderful feelings. That too. What's the title of the album? I can't tell you. We thought we had breaking news. Breaking news, Jill Scott. No, that might be the title album. I can't tell you. I can't tell you. The album, I can't tell you. I can't tell you. On the way. Like, so when you went into it, it's just like you was just, you came from different angles, it seemed like. All over the place. It was just like the cabinet, the seasonings. Just different type of seasonings. And the way that it worked is sometimes I would just get a reggae note. And we're like, okay, no supposed to do with this. I don't know, I'll put it to the side. This time I got some capers and some lemon. This time I'm over here and I've got some pasta sauce and some olives. Like what is happening? And that's how the whole project is like, I just was all over the place. Adding to this, writing to this, adding to this. And then sometimes it's just stream of consciousness where the whole song will come out at the same time. And I have to record it or write it immediately because it's like it goes so fast. It goes so fast. So I have to do that and then call some friends, ask them to come and listen to this melody. See what you hear, see what you think and work it out like that. When you go into the booth, you know you were going, do you ever take anybody with you? When I say take somebody with you, I'm saying take one of the legends with you. Do you ever have like, I'm on this today. I'm on some train stuff today. I'm on some shocker stuff. Do you ever just take a certain energy of any of them artists with you? The story dictates, the writing dictates whatever sound I am using. So, I'm not, it's like the story makes me sing a certain way. That's why I always used to say that. Then I always say that I never know what I'm going to make. The beat is going to tell me what to write. You know, so I never, that's why I was never good at having pre-written verses. And then hearing a beat and putting it on there because this beat didn't tell me to say this verse. Another beat told me to say this verse right here. So that's how I always was. I always tell him like, if you are artists, you really don't even really know what you're going to write because you go through the studio and you listen to a thousand beats before you find that one that just be like, oh yeah, I like this. Well, you know, I feel like playing something. I want to play some of this Jill. And just vibe. And just vibe. And I'm going to play it in the sequence that I like from what I heard when Jill sent me a pack. Take that. I said, whoa. Oh, my phone almost, my phone almost blew up. Because I didn't get my phone almost blew up. I said, I say, I play this fuck up sometimes too. But I'm going to go into this. I'm going to go into this, this first song, right? And I think it's just, it's just the title alone. Say a lot. And they got my name in the title, you know, people, beautiful people. That's the part for me anyway. This is going to be a start to finish. So you want people going when this come out, you don't listen to everything, every single word and everybody's going to know when you get to the first show after this drop. They don't need to say it right along. It's feeling everywhere. I'm excited for it. I'm excited for it. Continue. Continue. Say my saying. It's deeper than. Our love is bigger than time. Our love is rhythm and joy. It resonates in every space. It fills the place. It's what we've been going to. My beauty. Beautiful. Beautiful. Beautiful. Beautiful. Beautiful. Beautiful. Our love can't so much. Our love traversed the sea. Our love is the outer war. Conquering all algorithms. And wicked, wicked systems of things. Our love ain't a blitz in Valentine's day. Our love ain't no fake. Our love is real. Our love is the gift. Our love is when truly felt. When truly felt. I'm sincerely. Beautiful. Oh, my beautiful people. Yeah. My beautiful. Beautiful. Beautiful. My beautiful. My beautiful people. I just want to be cool with you. I am genuine. I love your soul. I love your soul. I love your soul. I do. I just want to shine in the night. Like a star with you. My beautiful people. Beautiful. Beautiful. Joyful people. My beautiful. So silly. My beautiful. Everyone's sharing. People. People. My beautiful. Beautiful. Enterprising good timing.������ I ain't living like I'm running, shining. Woo! Yeah. I think I'll go all my life. Festival music. It's festival music! When you hear that, what do you feel? Ah, man. I feel... I just feel sincere. I feel sincere. I cannot wait to see everybody. I cannot wait for that moment to see all those hands in the air. And people with their head backs and their eyes closed and their arms out. Like, I can't wait. It's such a... this beautiful reciprocal thing. I know I'm gonna cry. I know I probably won't even be able to finish the song. But I love this. It's ain't a happenstance or a whim. I love is continual. Continuously continuing. Say no sin. It's deeper then. I love is bigger than time of race. Like, listen. When I say I've been cutting people, I have been cutting people out of my life. And I recognize all skin folk and kin folk. Real... and I know that's like the line that people say all the time. But I know it now. Like I'm very aware. I never heard that line. I like that. You have. That's an oldie but a goodie. Yeah, but that's the first time that came across my fleet. Well, enjoy it. Because it's facts. Yes, it is. Yes, it is. It's a hell of a thing. It's a lot of beautiful people out here. They got good hearts. They got good minds. And they've been loved. Gravitate towards these people. That's what I say. And I can't wait to look out into my audience and see all of these beautiful faces looking at me with their arms open. I can't wait. What is that going to feel like? That's one of those nights where it feels like you just lift off and everybody's flying. It's music is supposed to be spiritual. Even when you're talking nasty. They didn't play Baby Don't Play for you. But in the song I say, I say, You just been humping me shallowly superficially. Don't close your eyes. You can see and feel at the same time. Touch me all over. Squeeze my meat. Everything on me got feeling. Change the position of give me Afro beats. Please me hard so hard. Like a K-Dot lyric then. Sweet as my grandma's yams with the marshmallows on top. Pineapples and candy pecans. Come on. Baby don't play with it. Baby don't play with it. Get up in it. She said stand up in that shit. She said stand up in that shit. Don't play. You can't. Stop playing all this performative, not good, whatever it is. You know when you're pleasing somebody and if you don't know you need to find out. Investigate. It's a lot to do. A lot of wonderful feelings to feel. I'm pleasing you. I feel like this nigga crazy. I'm trying to investigate. You ain't ankle man. You ain't ankle man. Look how he ankle man. That song come on. It's on. Now I want to go to another song. This song is special all through your career. It's about a place where we from. Northside. It's from living in life. She nice. You think I don't see it? My glow shines from the solar plexus. My being. She sweet as she tough. I can give you my all but is it ever enough? They say chatting about my body on IG. Say I'm a mean bitch. I'm in Illuminati. But ain't no weird near-round here. When I write these songs. When I like my split. When I raise my son. A tone from my sins. When I stack my pace. When I deal with these men. None of them could ever be me. J-I-L-L-S-C-O-T-T. In the face of being. North Philly Bay. It's a good day. In all of my blues. In the back seat of in Uba. Hollywood or Hallelujah. I see it right through you. These bars are nasty. Why I'm spitting them out. And when I tell you my price. What they owe to me. Okay, I think I finally figured it out. I am the greatest. Always in the ladies like Lauren. So part in my art. I'm parking with pleasant surprises. Surprise. Wrapping better than you guys. Disguise me. You should let me be your guide. I'm hot. Load it like potatoes. So pop it like they don't want a hoagie. You and pasta. Rigga Tony. The time is only. But I know I'm still alone. After all this time. I've only made so many wrongs. The young whites. I'm winning cause God likes me. Most likely. Surviving with the size. The term is to a maximum. White men. I'm sagging them. Living like it's golden. Me and Sharon go platinum. Three in the bank. To the W-H-E-K. I'm here to stay. North Philly. I'm the most important for me in the store. By Lila Lila's I'm here at the wood. They want some shit. Jell-in some top shit. They ain't got a pact to pay. They be pissed they love like this. And it's all true. Billy Dilly is lethal. All of us. They be trying to bring it through. I can't be rich and cold. I can't be plight and smooth. I cut with the syllables. And twist it. The edible get real. So intelligent freaks. I work for a lot of coal and never love off. I just want to meet Jill's got great love. We beat the soul of Billy baby. Where he go? North Philly. North Philly. North Philly. North Philly. North Philly. North Philly. North Philly. North Philly. North Philly. North Philly. North Philly. North Philly. North Philly.����������������������������������������������������������������������������� I've never wet, yo. Wet world, baby. But first of all, you came on there. First of all, it already started disrespect for that DJ, Pamira, did the beat. Yes. Then y'all just came on there. You just came on there. Ah! Then TK. I'm feeling all dead. North side, baby. That's right. Very proud of that. How did that come about? Primo. Just sent you that. All right, Jelly, I feel like you should rap. Jelly, I think you should just rap. Really, Jelly. Really, Jelly. I'm not gonna argue with you, DJ Premier. Yeah, I'm saying like, okay. So then he gave me that beat and then I wrote what I wrote and then I had it for a long time. And I was like, I need a second verse. I need a second verse. So I started writing the second verse and it was good. But I was like, damn, who's from North Valley? Like, okay, okay, let me think. And I was like, fucking Tiara Wack is from North Valley. I'm a caller. And what's interesting about it is at the time she was like making fun of me on the internet. You know? So I was like, I asked my son. I was like, you think Tiara Wack likes me? And Jet was like, Mom, she's just having fun. And I was like, okay. He say so. I believe it. So I called her and she was like, whatever you need. What you wanna do? What you wanna do, Jelly needs? I was like, okay. That's how my god, that's a jelly beast. And that was done. When it was done. That was crazy. Cause that's how she was saying it. She got 50 names for me. Yeah, well, we want Gilly Silly from Valley. She got a bunch of names. Shout out to Ti. Shout out. Shout out to Ti. Now, this next song is my favorite. Right? Mine too. Pressure. Because it talks about right now and the pressure that everybody have trying to be like them. Like them? I'ma just.���� I So much pressure to appear just like them pretty and cosmetic elementary alphabet So much pressure to appear just like them Just like them Just like So much pressure to appear just like them Just like them Just like them so much pressure to appear just like them You chase me for a couple years And a couple months Till I said yes to love Love moves with me We graduated Learning to split shoulders No need to fake it. I wasn't the aesthetic I guess I guess I get it So much pressure to appear just like them I'm finding so pathetic I know you gonna regret it Hey so much pressure to appear just like Just like them just like them So much pressure to appear just like Just like them Just like them So much pressure to appear just like them You're like the wall Outside my bedroom I ain't got the moon for me Craving all night Now you got plenty money plenty Fame I'm thinking So much pressure to appear just like them I'm finding so pathetic I know you gonna regret it So much pressure to appear just like them Just like them Just like them So much pressure to appear just like Just like them Just like them So much pressure To be just like them Where did pressure come from and just to who just like them like break that down for me? pressure is the reality that There are a lot of Celebrity people and otherwise actors Rappers performers of some sort that get with a specific kind of Woman or man based on the aesthetic and They are in my dreams They're marrying and Making children with an ideal but not an actual person and that makes trouble for everything and everybody so I understand I understand the pressure but You you want to eat my food You you want to come blame in my good smelling bed? You know what I'm saying like and I've noticed it a lot and I wrote a song about it What a song about it like to hear it there it is I Think that people are stuck doing it. I remember when guys used to like girls for having freckles they select sleut foot girls or bowlet girls no remember remember girls used to like bullleg guy absolutely, and they used to be like He got some nice hair my baby gonna have nice curly ass Keep watching a bunch of things because he has soft eyes or kind eyes or that cuz he could fight It was like reasons to actually like somebody but when you look around everybody looks so much alike You know they look so similar that it makes me wonder What are you? You picking what they think is attractive. Are you picking what you like? You think what you really like because if you pick what you really like I saw your wife I saw your girl the girl before that and a girl before that but you're in my DMs Talking about when can we hook up? Just like damn. What's up? What you doing? What you really doing? Free that young woman Free somebody well you're not being since you're really real look at you free wills I'm just saying for you ever No, so so we know who will he is How was it like like like with the rest of the songs right? This flow is just like from what we just heard It's something for a buy not trying to have something for a buy just expressing your journey Yeah, I mean it's what I what I call it something for everybody. I don't know I Don't know I know that That it kept me up at night. I know that it bothered me That I had to say things that I'm saying like I needed to say them I know that the musicians that I work with and the producers that I work with I got work with David Banner And I just couldn't be more proud of him He gave me sleep that guy Mind you I've been going for ten years ten years Jet was six. He's 16 now. That was integral that time But David Banner gave me he must have gave me 400 plus beats Over ten years If I didn't say anything he would just send more files and files and files of music over and over He never gave up. He gave me everything from classical to classic hip-hop to southern trap He gave me he has his his breath of music is so expensive I'm just really really pleased by that and he's on a lot of this album. He's way more Way more musical and Quincy Jonas Than people Quincy Jones is as people would think do got it like I Can't wait to see how much more work he gets and he's doing great, you know, he's doing great But damn Andre Harris who worked with me. He did a long walk. It's the way You know, but now he's you know, Michael Jackson and and Burner Boy and Mariah Carey and you know Justin Timberlake and usher and like he's massive in this room. Yeah. Yeah, like the Happy to be with him again. That's like my musical Love it's my soulmate musical soulmate love him so much Man so many mess some new people met a dude at a party He was like I got beats and I was like Yeah, he's not beats music, I don't particularly care for beats Give me a full concept. You know, I want it. I want to hear where you think it. Where's this going? You know, and if it's if it's here, then at least it's gotta be fluid, you know for me but um, yeah, I'm Adam Blackstone, oh god He's such a he is such a quick. He is Quincy Jones. I like that kind of vibe where you can play and do anything You know, so it's a lot. It's a lot of that y'all It's a lot of wonderful musicians share and storytelling. And I'm proud of it Excited I can't wait to share. Do you miss torn? Um, I don't know if I ever really stopped Like even though like, uh, you may not see me all the time, but I'm I do shows For months at a time. Yeah It's a vibe. Israe israe be on again. It's about to israe. Yeah. And it's and the shows are so theatrical. I've seen them already Are you are you? Do you think you're emotionally ready to reconnect with your fans when they see you again? I don't think so. She won't cry a lot. Yeah I love you guys City at the city at the city at the a lot country at the Yeah Like I made music specifically for dc and dmv I made music for chicago because they've been loving me. Yeah, you know, I made music for filly, you know, because that's home And I want people to walk around with that particular kind of swagger, you know That just think you didn't get to the end of the song but they think feel good good Especially when they call it the bottom Especially when you know, they put me in the slow class because You ain't supposed to make it right right. You're not supposed to do anything or be anything but that's false False so I still have my foundation in north filly. It's called bluesbay foundation And we've been rolling for 20 years. Hope for 20 more Putting some kids through college kids. We have good grades Because grandma said, you know, don't throw your pearl to swine You know, so if you don't even try to do it Don't come to bluesbay. We just help where I where I didn't have to help You know, I could get the tuition for our money from my dad But I didn't have books or I didn't have transportation those things slow you down So that's what bluesbay does. Okay. Yeah, it's still going Like I don't know what to tell y'all but life is sweet. It's delicious and it's worth living And no matter what happens no matter what happens cry Lay down on the floor let that thing out. You know, then chin up chest out baby. Listen Chin up chest out. Yeah, it's plenty to do. Fuck we talking about. Yeah Well, life kick your ass go ahead and let it out. Then it's chin up chest out I see that's what you guys have done. Absolutely. That's so proud of you. Thank you. It looks good on you too. Thank you You look good rich. Thank Yeah You know, I love you look good rich. That's damn You heard that No, I feel you did you hear that all day to the world? I think To the world She just I would have picked her I would have picked her you would have She picked me I was I was like, I don't know. I mean, I don't know if you nice enough for me. You look like a bad person She crazy You think that's true? No, you know, I want that jail with her She told me she did. Yeah, you tell my mom fucking business Yeah, it was crazy and sure what new fucking She told you she did What the jail went in and you know what was so crazy about him? He abandoned his whole tradition because he he basically told him listen man. It was her stuff Let me let him go room Not fun. Jill. Damn you picked the right one. It's not for the jail. He was like you can handle this, baby I can't do it And he's they gonna let you out anyway. He lied I mean, I said damn you ain't shit jelly from Philly. He lied maybe You ain't shit. Yes Don't you believe that shit? Oh boy. Well, Jill We appreciate you. We appreciate you in any way. I'll put you in here This was a this was a great a great great interview And it was long overdue Yeah, but now but now uh, son son Is 16. Yep He know how to make them dishes for himself. Mom's going back on tour son son. Yep She gotta get that beef. He learned that early. He could fight in scuba dive. He's a lifeguard But he in Tanzania right now Mama is going on tour. Are you going to Tanzania? Mama going to come see me. He's exposed to culture. He's well culture Yes, he is Exposed your kids to something else outside of the neighborhood. Right, please Stop letting your kids think a goddamn vacation is going to a Atlantic city But that was good. They thought goddamn told me worked at the time. It did work The ocean I hadn't felt the ocean before under my feet. The how it moved. I was like, oh, this is great I'll take it little jellyfish a little bit Little bit little doiny park little doiny Yeah, great adventure. All right. If you fuck them take the babies the clementine part Yep the excursions in new york For for uh discount shopping All this stuff, yeah She was It was a play It was a little fucking she was fucked up back then then when she a pop ass with a hundred back. She didn't like that Shit, you should have did a song called 800 I could do a whole album called 800. It changed my life. It just had on the cover just 800. I'll build You know, uh, jim was a little petty to that. He had a change the whole 800 changed our life Because she because she's in her mind. See in this week is due to in her mind She hustled that 800 back. She wrote this nice ass loop And then he won't pass it back off. She was giving that 800 up, but she was really getting it back I thought and when she didn't get that guy, I'm saying no, honey back That she owned the diggers bitterness I will never Do some money from a man ever again. It is some typical black people shit. They'll borrow some from you Pay you back and demand you got a peep It's my dad. Yeah, that's he pops. I knew you but you shouldn't dad. I'm fully expect I'm going to college or one of my to buy the you know car. Let me just say which would have been nice as kids What y'all do is y'all fuck up True so my dad let me borrow when the fuck Barl I need who you tell me you still living the same house when you live in the same house We didn't live in the same house. Oh, yeah, I did. Nope But what I'm saying was you still living at home like like with your mom like right So you still at home when you at home is not barl It's not barl till you get out like when you're on it's not me you 28 29 Then it might be barl when you at home and the house and you go to college It's not barl. So you should have just said that I need I need The wrong you used the wrong verb See you gave him an opportunity to take that money back I got five for you. I ain't got any honestly. I wanted his respect And I thought that he would respect that but I also thought he did respect my daughter's trying to go to school And I'm and I'm gonna help her here you go and you'd pay it back on time too I love that about you here honey. At least give me like a hundred dollars or something took it all hurt deeply Now I don't want to ask nobody for this See, but there was a lesson he was teaching you wasn't trying to hurt you he was teaching the baby a lesson He's still my dad till he died That was a good dude. I'm pretty sure that you got rich. You got you got that little 800 back many many times Mm-hmm But we appreciate you baby, you know what I mean? This is a a legend not only is she a legend She was born and raised in north Philadelphia The new album coming out called title. I can't tell you That's the name of the I can't that's a hard I can't tell you what's the name of that one To whom this may concern To whom this may concern Damn you went crazy. That's you Scott. Yeah, to whom it may concern to me concern You know million dollars worth of gay And it's just like that right