#Throwback Episode - w/ DJ Pooh and Lil Duval | (Ep.75)

This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed human. Where every day is New Year's Eve. Let's go! What a good beholder is what it should be. It's your boy NRE. What up is DJ EFN. Good chat motherfucker podcast. Make some noise! Right now, we got two legends in the building. They together, because they did a project that I'm... I don't think I've been decided to see a movie because I feel like you got to get high to see the movie. You got to be, you got to get... And then you just had a premiere last night. Where it felt like soon as it started, everybody lit up. Yeah, they did. We had a green carpet man. Everybody came down. So it's like we kind of enticed it. And was the green carpet made out of weed? Man, I wish it would. You were this morning with it with so much weed inside. So I feel like somebody came out there and cut it first. Right, right. So now let's talk about this book. By the way, we got... Yeah, you got it now too. We got DJ motherfucking pool in the building. Make some noise! And we got motherfucking little doof all. Yeah! So now, is this the first time you wrote and directed? Because I know you wrote movie before. Just the third time I wrote in. And directed. Yeah, yeah, I wrote and directed a film called Three Strikes. Oh, Three Strikes? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I wrote and directed a film called The Wash. It started Snooping Drake. And then this film... Oh, then you wrote and directed the... That's right. Damn, and Snoopers in this... There ain't two as well, right? Yeah, Snoopers in here too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Snoop Dogg, yeah. So now, how did you guys come together for this project? How did this work? How did me for real? Nigga, I met this nigga on MySpace. What? I swear to God. So it goes back. Yeah, we go back. I thought you meant recently, like you on MySpace now. No, no, no. That way then, stop. I don't think so. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That would be creepy. That would be creepy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. On MySpace, Tom... Tom Pugler. Tom Pugler. Tom Pugler, he be on MySpace. Tom Chillin' on Instagram and I'm standing. So, y'all, so how did me know I'm on MySpace? He hit me up on MySpace and he says, like, hey man, I fuck with you, you're funny. I say I want to do something with you. And I mean, he the legend, you know what I'm saying? Like, oh, it's helping, he like Martin Scorsese if hip hop is crazy. You know what I'm saying, right? Martin Scorsese. You know I can't talk. Well, that would be the hip hop version. Martin Scorsese. No, Martin, Martin Poozwezy. That's what I'm talking about. Martin Poozwezy. That's all. You know what I'm saying? So when he called me, I was like, man, I'm down with it. 10 years later, we're here today. I'd make some noise for that, Goddamn it. Woo! Make some noise for MySpace doing some positive. No, no, no, no, no. How is it? Let me see that. It was there. This? No, it was there. Oh, this? OK. Because it's a good thing you could put it in here. What kind of contraptions y'all have for this stuff? This nigga, yeah, I noticed that. This nigga's a real weed dude. Like, yeah, I am. I just, it was crazy because that just happened. He didn't smoke when we made the film. I did? What? What? I did? So I feel ripped off. Like, he suddenly started smoking after, but the school was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's for part two. You ain't used to smoke weed if the book. No, I never smoked. I drink. I never smoked. I smoke in fake weed during the movie. During the movie, I smoked in fake. I was the only one smoking fake weed. So how long you been smoking weed officially? Like a year and a half. So I call him the little, little, little, little, little OG baby young love. Yes, because I smoke like a motherfucker in that. Because you got young love. What happened? What? I don't know. What just happened? Ali, thanks, Ali. What the fuck just happened? What are you fucking up about? I don't know. I got to push it in there with this tank. Wait, so he went zero to 100 in a year. It gets a huge shit. Yeah, because you just used? I thought you said my daddy used to do correct. So I got a high tolerance. I got a real high tolerance. What's with the credit? I was like, my tolerance is really high. Like, I haven't met my match yet. They tried to get me. He got his man that used to smoke with pop. And he tried to get me on that damn. I did that too. I was still up like this here. And you had never got high. I never got high before. What the fuck? Never got high. That's crazy. That's why I can't do nothing else, because I take stuff to the extreme. So if I didn't do anything else, I'd be dead. You're smoking all the weed out. If I had some coke, I'd really get a bottle of quinoa. But you're snorting like a shit. Toys Montana shit. Yeah, for real. So now, you guys meet on my space. Yeah. And then from there, y'all saw I talked about this movie or it just formed a relationship. You know, I was just like, I want to work with you one day. I was just like, man, you funny as hell. And I was just like, you just seem like a cool cat. Right. And I want to work with you and shit. I just thought he was cool. You know, I didn't know he wasn't. Right. And did. And did. I don't even know what to say. I'm not in this shit. Man, I love Dupont, man. But because I remember first seeing you in T.I. videos. Was that was your introduction to hip hop? No, I'm not really. Because I was doing stand up and everything. And how many a tip, man? He used to come to the comedy club. Because I used to have this comedy night in Atlanta. And he used to be popping all the time. And Tim was just coming up. But he used to always come to the comedy club. And then he had already had an album out. But it wasn't getting that much buzz as the second one. So when the second one came out, he was like, I want you to do in the videos and stuff. And it was everybody. That's when Atlanta was popping. Like the Cronk era. Like Lil Jon and everybody like that. So anytime they had a video, they hit me up. And what people realized about that time, why Nicky used to do a lot of videos, TV wasn't popping at that time. For black people. Like, yeah, after Martin and all that stuff there, there really wasn't no outlet to be on TV. So the only way you could be on TV was fucking with hip hop. A lot of comedians came out of videos. Yeah, so that's what I used to do. And I used to kill it. And so from then it's been through. And then when the internet came in, that's when it went to a whole another thing. But even before that, I had Comic View and Second Avenue and stuff like that. So you're from Atlanta? I'm from Florida. I'm from Jacksonville. Right, okay. I'm from Jacksonville. So I'm Floridian. Where are you from? Miami. Born here, but raised in Miami. Oh, okay, okay. Now, but you live in Atlanta? I live in Atlanta. I've been living there for a minute too. And Atlanta's like black Hollywood. You say that? I mean, so- Is it fair to say that? I would say yeah. I say yeah, but to me, it's probably like how you feel about New York. Like, I know what it is. You know what I'm saying? So for somebody else, like it is the great, like the great white herd, where people go like the underground railroad for black niggas, you think you can make it? That still is it, but for me, I see it for what it is. Now, Poo, you're 100% from California, right? Well, I'm originally from Kansas City, Missouri, but I've been here since I've been young. Now, your career is very interesting because you got the California ties. You could have very easily wrote gang movies, but you kind of like went towards the weed culture. You know what? Mostly what I've done has been comedy shit because I just been that dude who's always cracking jokes, just clowning around, but I've always taken a lot of pride in servicing, in trying to service good quality content to the hootie. Right, right, right. So, because Friday was the first- Yeah, that's the first film. The first film you wrote. Together, okay, yeah. And then how did that take place? Because, you know, we see in the movie, you see Cube, straight out of Compton, he's sitting there, and I think his girl says, how's Friday coming along, babe? And was it, did it go down like that? Well, you know what? And to him, it did. And then, wait. I ain't saying that. I know, I know. Well, put it this way. Chris Tucker, character, it was about him. It was you, you were smoky. Yeah, he was smoky. He's smoky. So, I mean, that tells you right there. But Cube, yeah, Cube wrote. Like to him, that was his experience writing it, because we wrote on our own in places and collabed together. So, I can't take nothing away from Cube. I mean, Cube co-wrote that movie. You know what I'm saying? I think, you know, it couldn't have been that way if me or him wrote it alone. I think it was the fact that we wrote it together. It was so dope. It was something that we really, you know, put work in on and people love, you know? When you was doing it, did you know you was making a classic? We felt like we was doing some shit because we was just having fun with music videos and shit. Like that, they were new and... And you did something with Boys in the Hood too. Like you wrote something for it? No, no, I did a lot of the music stuff and the score and stuff and stuff. And like the drive-by scene that you hear, but don't see, like pulls up to the stop sign, everything that you hear. And that kind of set out a lot of music under the movie. Came from just tracks and she beats and shit. I did, because, you know, I produced. But honestly, with Friday, you know, it was more the music videos that we were doing. Stuff like you had me do, play the Mac in the video. He got the Mac and song in there. We were just having fun clowning. It was like, man, let's make a comedy. Let's make some funny shit. At the time it was like Boys in the Hood. Man, that's everything. Everything was serious. Yeah, and it was like things were laughing. Was D-Bo based on a real character? Yeah, it's a D-Bo. I knew it! But the cool part about it, it's not just a specific one. It's that one that everybody knows. Yeah, yeah, exactly. They'll eat you, they're having a drink, man. What's going on? You want a sauce of water? No, we got sauce of water. Cool, let's go on. I feel like... Look, that's what we're adding in there, man. We almost had supper chance though. We almost had supper chance. I'm sitting up here just soaking in all this. Because all this is hip hop history. Hip hop history. You know what else, buddy? Because we're talking the fullest thing. And I want to bring this up. Yeah, please. I want to bring this up. I don't know if a lot of the viewers know this, because they're probably younger, but... This was a B, about 10, 15, 20 years ago. The Biggs misunderstand the hip hop. Biggs, Nick, what are you going to talk about? They're not understanding the hip hop. In hip hop, like... It might be in black history. Do you know what I'm talking about? Yeah, I'm a DJ. I know, you're like, like, slow, man. And we sit here and drink it. They were stomping on the building. We sit here and drink it. Because I always go to the head side of the story. You gotta tell your side, man. Because he told me... You're glasses. Glasses. Ali. We need more glasses. Yeah, well, pretty much, we just made the record to get on. Like, we didn't have no, you know what I mean? We made L.A.L.A. just to get on. We had no, like... And the original one, you did it over there, B. So that was your first song before... That was my first song that Abba took over. But my D, yeah. You did it all in New York, New York. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They did a dub play, basically. Yeah. And it went clear. It was a white label. I didn't clear it. It was my B. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What about the listeners don't know? Tell the whole story from the beginning. From the beginning. I think when we went back and did it, we did the Sugar Hill version over. I don't think we did yours. Oh, well. Yeah, yeah. I don't watch it. Yeah, that's the original. And in the original, Sugar Hill? No. That's the original one. The one he just did. All right, just because we got soon. Somebody soon as we got to be. And it was a commercial for Biggie. Yeah. That's the same, yeah. He spoke about that earlier. He was like, oh, I want to make this song. I forgot that. Yeah, that was on the big picture. Everybody always thought that was a dub, but it was B for the commercial. You can tell how the whole misunderstanding is done. For the commercial too? Yeah. You can tell how the whole, because I want to know. Well, basically, like most of the music are all the commercials. That's just mostly young people. Well, basically, to answer a little of all, what happened was they had a record called New York, New York. We had not known if it was actually a diss record. Because we just know that it was funny that they say New York, New York. So we had did the record, LA LA. If you notice, none of us is saying anything bad about it on anything. And in fact, the only one who did say anything slightly remotely, he said JFK on our way to LA was Prodigy. And if you look at the video, Prodigy took his verse off, because he was a little nervous. So what happened was, and they came to New York, and I believe they shot the video. Some shit happened in the video. And then they changed the whole video to, like, it was like, now kick down the buildings and now do that. But that's my side. That is what happened. Because the song wasn't meant to be a diss song. It was a song where it was like paying homage to New Yorkers. You know, hip hop arrived second. And when Corbett said that, we even believed him. But why did they shoot it? But it was the start. Why did they shoot the start? That's the first time, and from my point of view, I ever heard Biggie even really speak on the drama. We were there. I was shooting a video. That was my whole production, cropping, and everything. I was shooting a video in Red Hook, Brooklyn. And we heard on the radio, they were saying, oh, yeah, they're over shooting a video. How are you all going to let them come in? Yeah. We learned about that in mind. That was the only time. Because to tell you the truth, I'll give you my side of any Biggie story. Biggie really wasn't with the drama. He didn't really want to be a part of that. Like, he was a cool nigga. He was just a cool dude. A very cool dude. So that's the part of the story. But that's the fucking hip hop history right there. That's what I'm doing. That's what I'm doing. Woo! Yeah, I gotta tell. Oh, thanks, man. I gotta tell one side story. OK. That one, we were shooting the video. And then the shit went down in the video. Shoot. And everybody went back to LA, packed up. And that's when I shot the villains to use in the video to be chickened down. So I had to stay another two days for my video. So I'm in the hotel. And I look at my phone to like it. I got messages. I get the phone, yo, yo, you better take your fucking ass back to LA. Yo, we're going to fucking get you out of the whole shit. Oh my god. You need the alias name. I made up some alias names and all my shit to another room. You by yourself. Everybody did. You know, the first time I was, second time I'm in there all the homies in the room now, the crew. And the lights start blinking again. I'm like, what the fuck? Yo, you better get all this shit on the floor. I'm like, these niggas, they start laughing. That's them playing on the floor. Oh shit. I'm moving. I'm like, this is my room. This is my room. That's crazy. That's crazy. I'm not the fucking one. I was trying to get two more times. Shit, I'm about to move again. This niggas ain't bullshit. What you seem like, and both of you brothers, I feel like you're going to have a great relationship and continue to tell you. Because y'all seem like people that's always in good spirits. Yeah. Is that true? Because for me personally, I don't try to get in. I don't try to get in and go up in the industry shit. I work within the industry, but I work in it when I want to. You know what I'm saying? I feel like it's the best thing you can do. If I don't want to do something, I don't do it. If I want to do it, I do it. That's pretty much how I work with me too. I have to say I've been blessed to have had an opportunity to be in the front seat of hip hop. A great way to put that. And in a long run. Most of what I do is behind the scenes. Yep. I played the character red and Friday and stuff. Most people just seem to be like, oh, that's red. And they don't know the music I did. They don't know the writing I do or anything like that. But they know that. Because most of what I do is behind the scenes. At one point, you wanted to be an actor? Or it was always like... No, not really. I just love to just have fun. I just love creating and having fun. And shit more than anything. But I just love writing and some of that acting and having fun. Just doing whatever. Being creative. So now, Grow House. Let's tell these people what... Obviously, you're growing weed in there obviously, right? Oh, yeah. Tell the people... Who else is in there? D-Ray Davis is in there too. So tell us people for people that don't know. Martin Star from Silicon Valley is in there. We got Malcolm McDowell. In there, we got Rock Hill Lee. Zula. Zula George Wallace. Faze On Love. Zula Zula. You know, Smith Dog, of course, we mentioned already. And man, we got a lot of good people. A lot of good people. Is it independent? We got a little shade also. It's definitely independent. Yeah, so break that down. What's the business then? Why would you go independent? Because you know, you could probably go to these big guys. You know what you would think? It's always easier to go to the big guys when... Because we have made film. I mean, you know, I'm back in 100%. I've never made a film that has not made money. Why? You know, and so... You can look at a lot of films that a lot of big time Hollywood stars have made that have straight lost a hundred million dollars in shit. That have flopped like, you know, flopped a hundred times. But when they fall, a lot of times they fall up. And just go right into the next shit like it's nothing. But us, we can have a film that just makes, you know, maybe a 20% profit. And it's like, oh yeah, I don't know. So that's kind of... You have to be a thousand times better, a hundred times better. Kind of mentality. I feel that we've always been told growing up, you know, you got to be better at what you do just to get recognized. Or just to get on. And I feel like that applies everywhere, even in the film industry. And would you rather be independent? Oh, you know what? In some ways, hell motherfucking yeah. And in some ways it's like, damn, this shit hard. I wish I could help you meet that. Yeah, like how's the distribution on the film when it's independent? How much harder is it to get it in theaters across the country? It's like slim and none. Some distribution shit. I think that's the hardest part right there, which is the reason why so many films, you know, don't get that theatrical distribution. Right. You know, they'll get, you know, Netflix and Amazon, red box. Those things are real cool too, not putting it down, because I can't wait to get there too. Right. Netflix giving up that tax. That's like they're cooking a streaming for film. People see it on too. I mean, so you have to look at it and say shit, you know, it's going to go down the chain either way. But when you can get an opportunity to do a theatrical release, I'm in there. Right. You're looking at me like, just like that shit. When you can get a film in the theater, because that's a different experience where people have to go purchase a ticket. It's an event, right? It's like, where's Box Cinema? Like, you know, back then we had the Boys and the Hugs and we had the Fridays and we had, and it seems like, Black Cinema is like, and that's what we're trying to bring back. The Renaissance is coming in. And it's comedy, because like, well, I try to tell a lot of people with this movie, and what made, you know what made Friday so funny? Because it was a real story and it just ain't funny people in it. It wasn't like they were trying to, he wrote it to try to be funny. Right. It was just a real story and you put funny people in there in funny scenarios. And that's what this movie is, you know what I'm saying? Pretty much. It's a real story. Sure. And it represents the culture, the right, well, you know, something like breaking, then between breaking and the Hollywood breaking movie, the people that really break didn't like it. Yeah, it was horrible. But that's the same thing with this thing. Like breaking one into? Yeah, man, that shit ain't real. It ain't like Beach Street, you know what I'm saying? Because that was more like the culture with that. That was like Hollywood shit. So that's why I made sure I went to the Bay and did a screening. I was like, you gotta go to the Bay to do a weed movie. Right. And then I was like, I'm gonna get what they thought. And after the show too, I didn't tell you this, Poo. After the show, the dude came in here and was funny, like man, this shit was so funny. Because I was looking at my old lady who was laughing because everything, he was showing me, everything his phone would have been in the movie, having to him while he was doing his grow house. Wow. So it's kind of like telling a real story. It's relatable. And it speaks for a culture that ain't gonna make it look like a symbolic shit. Right. And honestly, if you really wanted to open up a grow house, you watch this, you might go, it's the blue green. The red. Perfect timing in countries. You should know how to grow when you need to move. Because it ain't just as easy as some people think. And you grow too? What's your man name? Montana's Big Him Up? Yeah, Montana. Yeah, Big Him Up. You grow too? I have. You have? You gave me some African dabber shit. Oh, those are some grows I worked with. Those are the best. Yeah. That's the best growing. I just want to put this out here. I rolled this up. I rolled this up. I rolled the seeds. What'd you do? No, that's the problem. Yeah, African dabber. African dabber. Yeah, African dabber. That's the best shit in the world. That's the best shit in the world. That's why I'm mad. That shit put me to sleep. I smoked up one of that. I took a nap. I ain't taking a nap since 1998. So what you like better, stand up or actually act in it in the film? I like both, but honestly, I get to stand up to get into acting. I'm even getting into movies because I figured that's how you do it. Like I said, Friday was the reason why I got into this shit. There's some coincidence that I'm doing a movie with him. But what happened was I saw Chris Tucker go from stand up to did the movie. So I was like, oh, that's how you do it. Chris Tucker fucked up. I'm not doing the next Friday. He should have did. I never say that, man, because a lot of people was just like, all right, why didn't he do it? Did you feel like he got Hollywood? This drink chance, we need the real story. He got Hollywood on you. You know what? This is not what changed. I think Chris always had a plan just to do all kinds of shit. And I think it would be unfair to Chris to make you feel like he didn't. To make you feel like he didn't have ideas to do much more than that because Smokey is not the character or the person he is in no way. You know how some people say there's a base of that character in that person? That's really not who he is. Because you're afraid to get typecast into that? You have to say he was a great actor. He was a great actor. Because he had his boo. I thought he was smoking like a motherfucker. I thought he was smoking. That's the thing. He killed the character. Yeah, but one thing for sure is unlike DuVall, he was smoking real weed. He came at you. That was another one. He had a stomach stun weed. He must have been mad at you. I was going to tell you this is the whole gym. Whatever you say. What the fuck are you saying? He must have been mad at you. You actually started smoking after that. Yeah, he was. I'm mad at you. I'm mad at you. I'm mad at you because I'm like, dang, I'm boy. I could have done it. Yes, I'm like, I could have really killed it for real. So all this shit I've been learning since I was smoking. But now, I like to say man, the movie. And is it a California movie? Is it a take place in Los Angeles? Cool. And I don't like to toot the horn of the movie, but I wouldn't be promoting this movie this hard if I didn't think it was funny. Because I done done a lot of movies that I ain't promoting. Because I know how garbage you shit. But this one here is, plus you can't be talking too much shit. If it ain't, they going to troll your ass on the internet. That's funny you say that because as a comedian, do you always want to be funny on camera? Or does it come to a part where you like, let me get my acting on? I think the best actors are comedians. Yeah. Because we have to do it all the time. I'm about to say that. As soon as you said that, I really thought it was Ray Charles. I think Robin Williams is one of the best actors ever. Robin Williams, Tom Hanks, Tom Hanks, a comedian? Yeah, he did. What's that movie that punchline? Tom Hanks. He was in a bosom buddy's back in the day. We're going to stop you there. Tom Hanks ain't no comedian. Nah, he was a comedian. He started out as a comedian. He did a Saturday Night Live. Yeah, he was a comedian. He acted in that movie. He did a movie about his guy, Stanis Donovan. He's so versatile that you don't see him as that, but he does that out of it. Did he do stand-up though? I don't think he did. I think he did a movie about being a stand-up comedian. But he was a comedian. That's the way he came in. Yeah, so I mean those because you have to act certain things because you re-enact what you've seen as far as in life. So that makes a great comedian. It makes a great actor. You know, so I guess they the best. It stands up hard when you're unknown. Stanis Donovan is the hardest form in the team. Ain't nothing harder than this. Only thing maybe is preaching. Because you gotta come up with something every week and bullshit. You gotta have new balls. Yeah. That's what I say about comedy all together. Like in that film, doing comedy is more difficult because it's not like you just telling a story. You're doing something to get a reaction. And then expecting it. And then if you ain't getting that then it's like awesome. Yeah. It's like a scary movie. Like after a while it's hard to scare people. And the same thing with comedy. Like after they done heard every joke is getting harder. Especially now when people take your Spanish short. Because it takes time to deal stand-ups. Especially that's why you see somebody like Chris Rock do something every five years. Because you gotta live life. Right. You know what I'm saying? And it takes time. But in this day and age people ain't got time. Right. And then work with them what it is and it's transitioning into social media technology. It's funny as far as funny. So same question to you, Poo. What do you enjoy more? Music or making movies? You know what? Ah man. That's, you know what I enjoy more than anything. And I have to be honest because I can't say between one and the other. But I would say I enjoy hip hop. And I mean that. You know and that's back to what I said earlier. In the front seat of hip hop. As I've been involved in hip hop from music to film to video games to. I've been involved in business. That has. Coach you changed the coach. Had hip hop be a part of it. And I've been there and I've been deservingly so I think we should be in any form of entertainment. Cause it's crazy because even before the movies in my opinion you were already a legend. Within the music culture. But you know he did great. Follow him too now. No I didn't know that. This man has been doing this shit man. The soundtrack? No no no. I write the stories. Come on now. And I, and I. Yeah that's insane. I know it's him being a story. Do you accept me right away man? He's a legend in all different facets. This is why I behave like I've been telling him. He's a hub boy. Yeah I'll be like you can't be a hub boy in 2017. That's why I said you ain't gonna be a hub boy. I'm a hype here. He's got to be his hub boy. I got to be his hype man. He's a post-perman. He's a post-perman. He's a post-person. He's a publicist. He's a publicist. This is what you gotta do. This is what you gotta do. Pooh gotta be like you know everything is cool. And then you gotta come out and say, Translation! Translation! We're not in this shit man! We're not in this shit. We're in this shit. Pooh Gold. The biggest post in this shit. That's crazy. A lot of the culture is in this next come from this shit. But now we gotta go back before like going back more in the music part of it. Going back to early West Coast stuff. King T was messing with LL Cool J. LL Cool J. America's Most Wanted Ice Cube. Lynch Mob all that. N.W.A. Days 2? Oh yeah. I was definitely, I started out back when Drake showed me how to work a drum machine. And me and Drake started out. Dr. Drake told you how he said that so humble. Now you gotta say it. Because it's normal here man. You see how he said it humble now? You gotta say it in a nigga way. Yeah. I'm gonna be at all nigga. I've been living with Drake and all that. Put beats together. Y'all just doing this shit. They all been doing this shit. Fuck you man. Fuck you man. You can step up. You ain't just shit compared to what I'm doing. Translation. Hell you talking about. Been rich. Fuck you man. You can't make a mini platinum hit survive me. Alright go ahead. Yeah. Without my friend. This man's a legend. He is. He's the coach. He's the coach. And when people are going to be like, oh my god. He's the coach. He's the coach. He's the coach. He's the coach. He's the coach. He's the coach. He's the coach. He's the coach. He's the coach. He's the coach. He's the coach. He's the coach. He's the coach. He's the coach. He's the coach. He's the coach. He's the coach. He's the coach. He's the coach. He's the coach. 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He's the coach. praise our legends now hip hop we got to keep all people alive I do it all the time and I humbly say that great Devon and tell me how to work a drum machine gave me the first drum machine to borrow and you know that's the kind of guy right you know man being around these niggas like even snoop because yeah I'm going snoop yesterday right now Snoop is one of the most like honestly he's the biggest name in hip hop everybody's an icon everybody that knows him but for him to be that big that popular and just to be so regular it's so like it makes me realize you ain't got to be a big asshole if you really know that was Snoop you'll forget who he is because he's so cool but you know what I know about that niggas so real man most big stars that smoke weed are the coolest shit but if they stars and they don't smoke weed they take life too fucking serious I don't know most people most people get high I don't give a fuck from what I've noticed the people that really got it are real humble it's the one that ain't got it it's like real gangsters don't need to talk that shit man like they don't be tripping our shit you know what I'm saying the one that's really doing it they ain't the assholes it's the one that's trying to get that that's who the assholes is fuck this shit no, it's a real shit I'm telling you the whole story of why I got on the New York shit when I heard Life's a Bitch and You Die with A.T. when I started here and then it went from neck then it went from everybody I used to fuck with everybody in Queens that's how I got them Capone and Dorian and all that and I got a DJ crew the DJ crew got me on so that's how I got all my circle so I knew everything in that little clique I was a queen mother every rapper's queens I knew who they were so is DJ pool and Little Duval listening to the Migos? yeah I am I am I am I fuck with them but I can't say I listen to everything you know what I'm saying but I can right now I'm not talking about Migos specifically I'm talking about everything in general now but I do keep up on what's going on when I say Migos I mean them but I mean like this new generation like you guys say I like music I like music yeah I like music like when you like music good music though it's gotta be good music sometimes it's just like when you hear something new I always like new like when they come to Migos so now here's something that's refreshing even if I don't like because I've learned a lot of times we just stuck in our ways the older we are yeah the older we get you know what I'm saying when we think they're saying some shit but there was some bullshit when we came up that's a definitely yeah so a lot of bullshit there was a lot of bullshit in the 90s too but the flip is saying because it's new and it's young it's automatically you should be into it I don't think that either there's good shit and there's bad shit you shouldn't relate to a lot of this shit cause we old we shouldn't relate to it I'm not calling it a lie it'd be certain times I wanna hear Drake I feel soft I wanna feel soft Homie makes great music man he makes great music he makes great music I'd be in that mood what I mean is like sometimes I don't wanna hear the hardcore shit I don't wanna hear about niggas talking about selling drugs that they never sold sometimes I just wanna I'm in the mood where I want to go yeah that's what I'm saying I'm gonna be honest I throw some hardcore shit and I listen to some soft shit I like him singing I just like hip hop as a whole so no matter where it goes it's gonna go somewhere I think it's getting more to like we keep saying it's mumble but James Brown scream through all the songs I never heard that compared that's actually a good example he'd have followed a hip hop exactly he'd have followed a hip hop I thought your an energy sucked but that's a real good one I never thought of it that way James Brown you just shut me down the way I think about mumble yeah I'm saying so it's really just like we just don't want to they ain't saying nothing but it's all comes back to jazz and all that it goes to beat shoes and the music who knows what but all the stuff that James Brown did outside of all that screaming and mumble he danced he did so much more there's jazz so much more showmanship there's jazz that has no lyrics or nothing but we said it's just the beat and the vibe of it so sometimes you take things that vibe or a wave like when you in that wave of it you feel it just like we you know what you saying like now like he said though he said there's jazz with no lyrics I had to think about that that's true there's a lot of jazz that don't have a jazz but the shit he survived but it survived it's like a wave like when you in that wave he survived it's like you know I said your mom never got you know what I'm saying like y'all listen to all this dumbass rap they ain't talking about nothing now that's what we say on that you know what I'm saying we're coming young here so we gotta look at it like we just forget cause you get older and you're like that ain't here he don't want to become that old hazer that's what you know what the crazy thing was I started to notice when I didn't like the new music that was the time of my life when I wasn't going to clubs just like how you said at one point I've been going to Atlanta so long at one point I used to go to Atlanta and say yo it's Brooklyn in the house and everybody be like and I'm like oh these niggas ain't from Brooklyn but when the music that I didn't like when I didn't go to that town once I went to that town it's like you gotta hit first time you hit Trick Daddy if you in Miami you can you get it that is Miami that is the most of Miami so when you hit Amigos and you in motherfucking what's that place club out in Atlanta or you in motherfucking one of them good clubs you will appreciate it so sometimes when you're older and you ain't moving and you ain't hanging out with the younger you don't know what you're doing I used to hate going to the club I see everybody singing the song and I don't know I hated that I was like oh shit what the fuck I am losing that is the song of y'all that is the song of y'all playing off in there yeah that is bougie at least one word that is one word and that is keeping you I ain't trying to even keep my youth I just like music and I just understand it I'm like in the bridge between old school and the young school that's where I'm in and I'm like that bridge in between he said new school he said young school yeah I mean whatever they called him I mean I'm not them niggas I'm not y'all niggas I'm in between I can stand by the side that was your favorite era of music I had to say 90's I don't think y'all realize how golden it was at that time y'all were really into individualism like you mean uniqueness nobody wanted to sound like a nice person you couldn't do it I grew up on it because I was absorbing it all and just to thank the person from Jackson this was before the internet or nothing so you had to really find music back then dig in the crates you had to really find you might have one radio station I knew every every album that came out on them or DJ quick and all that from all over there it says a lot we had to absorb it we were it may have been a lot bad too y'all fucked our minds up too you know when I noticed about the 90's music we thought y'all was really doing that shit we really it was about making a whole body of work the only difference to it right now is most of these guys they get a single it's a single driven that's because of how our minds were these young kids are getting too high out here percosec they gotta stop they are dope fiends do you know what the fuck y'all are taking that is a form of heroin we gotta teach our babies better than this our generation failed them it's all for my generation it's all for it's all for we dropped the ball we're just having a good fucking time that's what I think we stop being OG we stop being OG but that comes from hip hop we're not even an oldie you don't really when my mama was like that I never thought that she'd be out here and in the club still but these mama I know what he's saying when you want 40 to be the new 30 40 can't just be 40 you're not proud to be age that's the problem then now age comes with a certain amount of respect you don't have to put in strikes because everybody ain't gonna make it very true where you at and nothing is guaranteed so put stripes on that and put respect on that you have to put them in strikes because it is hard to get here especially when you talk to people where all the environment we all come from I never even thought about being this age when you young my goal was 21 I'm 39 my goal was to hit 21 18 I think I was gonna celebrate but 21 I was like that's it I just wanted to be old enough to drink that's it you never thought about I just saying how good so I can go to heaven that's what I thought about but I'm gonna have a good time hip hop did that because hip hop is about being cool so as you grow you still cool cool cool you don't have to cool your way to 50 shit that's dope shit man you know they do it in other generations and that's one of the reasons like I said we said the hurl up has grown up hip hop has grown and so we're not gonna be our parents at 50 or 40 we're gonna be us at 40 but we do have to be 40 or 50 because the fact that it's promoting being drug addicts is terrible I mean weed is great that's a herb but these guys are actually promoting drinking for methazine that's fucking harrowing that shit is off off though I'm not smoking this shit you smoking jason baby god damn it what the fuck did you give me DJ pool please tell the people that was a devil cigar that sounds scary that was almost like a whole else road in one cigar you smoking you disappeared that was a thousand dollars car very rich that's why I had to get my robe let me get my robe that's like a house compressed in compressed in just like a house just compressed all into one what's your favorite record you ever produced my favorite record I ever produced I don't know I'd probably say a record I did called no idea that features cam west coast cam and then everybody else that was on the song computer love which is Roger Troutman Mert Och and Charlie Wilson and it was on my album bad news travels fast my favorite record I ever made in the world and you never fucking heard it and you never fucking heard it so fuck off I got it I'm going to search that right now yeah what year is that before can it came out with p-street I was in jail I got a skew right after that I'm sure about this and you could do edibles and all that I do it all man how long you been smoking for I can't even believe that story some fish about this story it's real everybody thinks it's publicity style so what made you start smoking like that I don't know I always liked the way it smelled you know what I'm saying but I just was one of the niggas because everybody in my hood I'm not going to do it so when everybody in a gold grin I didn't get it because I didn't want to be like these dude on your own time yeah I wanted to do them my own time and then on top of that it's almost like I was supposed to do it because they always embraced me that culture because they thought I smoked weed I never smoked weed it just I was fucking fool enough I always out there in my mind space because I thought he smoked weed my face is still fucking me I never said if I did or didn't because I didn't want to push them people away you know what I'm saying so I'm like he just nailed the floor you think what you want he's celebrating 420 and for no reason it's almost time but then after a while I was like you know what after that move I was like I'm not supposed to be smoking weed I didn't give another weed move what Devon did that's the hellest smoker right there Devon did the coolest he lived the perfect life he's the Willie Nelson of Empire shout out to our squad that motherfuckers cool as fuck so tell the kid that you know it's probably from Jacksonville or from Atlanta or from Compton how does a person start his comedic career if there's somebody right now that is funny he don't know how to structure his funniness to make it a business it's a different game right now before the way we had to do you had to stand up to get in the mood now you don't really have to do that you can go get on the internet and make them skits and build up a buzz because I've seen a couple do that they might not be stand up funny but I'd be like man I'm gonna be good in the movie you know what I'm saying but sometimes you run across them dudes and it ain't it's funny yeah another thing about that internet though you can fool people too you can fool people you edit but I can read through motherfuckers too you gotta be able to be a good read yeah I can read because believe it or not I was one of the first to start doing all that shit on internet you can google that I ain't gonna lie about it because I don't like to be wrong but you can google that you'll see I was one of the first to start doing skits you know what I'm saying so I understand what they're doing because I kind of created the mood with the blueprint of it so I can read through like now this nigga kind of funny this nigga naturally funny he might not know how to do stand up but he naturally funny and I know how to get what I can out of him to produce what he did kind of like what he did with me and really all I even from day one all I want to do is these type of movies funny bro all like we type of movies cool movies and then over time they start doing other shit and that shit fell off and I was just out there doing rap videos but that's what I was asking you earlier like are you ever gonna go to a point that's what made you so good at rap videos that's it come from these crap shit are you gonna go to a point in your career you think that you're gonna acting is gonna mean more than being funny like a gaming box I think it's gonna be a I think I'll give you a part of it I know what you're saying it's for me it's all a part of the expression like I like to entertain people I like to get my point across sometimes I might make a song sometimes I might make a joke sometimes I might do a skit sometimes I might sing I might perform you know what I'm saying I just like to get my shit off and sometimes comedy is the easy way to get it off and if I can do it in a story I mean not a real movie but a movie that's not about comedy that's what I'm asking you that's my point is like will you try that I'll try with him too because I can trust that he can guide me in the right way that's the smartest thing too that's what make like people like Drain and Snoop or Timberland and Who He With or Missy you need somebody that can coach you that's what wins I know he's a good coach I definitely I definitely want to work with you DJ Pooke because I'm definitely a fan of everything you're doing everything you did and besides you being the coolest he's like the coolest thing in the world he sit back like you are if marijuana was a person that's who you are if marijuana came alive it's DJ Pooke if marijuana can talk back to you that's what he'll need let's make some noise for that god damn it what time are we at? 45 45 man? I had y'all kidding that let me just describe how this just happened I landed got in front of the hotel I said oh it's a little far right there I walked over to give him a 5 and his motherfucking DJ Pooke right there in front of the hotel and I'm like yo we need y'all in the podcast today and they did it we want the fans to know that and we locked in so we want the fans to go out there this is hip hop make it up on the spot it's not hip hop but it's like well you know what how about manager then you know what I'm saying like if we always fucking run into each other nah nah we did it right there we don't like getting people on publicity runs like specific I do shit on here we talk to each other before we go through all that shit there right right very good that's how we if I met you like that then that's how I'm keeping it that's right I would have met him through the other people then it would have been like that but I met him like this he came to me first so if I got any problem or anything I'm gonna go to him we ain't gotta talk to him I can talk to him and it's that's how business should always be conducted I'm gonna tell you across the teams and Dr. I but don't let them dictate how we can get down what we do the shit really needs to be simple how do you meet Charlemagne me and Charlemagne you can't on my space too you're surprised man you killed it on my space I've been popping on your space you still got your profile on my space I do I go to the photo back in the next video I'm like 30s victim of the ass you're a trash ass when you go back time probably be like where the fuck you been you ever seen shit like that but no like no but I just got anything that's true you ain't meet your girl on my space I got that girl I'm gonna go on Instagram that's good cause it's a social media craze I think I've been on this shit y'all are new to this shit I've been doing all this shit I've been here to see how this social media grew to this you know what I'm saying cause I always knew like nigga this was what's going on that's why I jumped on it so early I'm married right I don't be seeing it but I seen it do it the other day I seen it do it the other day he go to a chick and say he didn't even ask for my number he said what's your Instagram I said oh shit that's how they bag and visit but it's actually smaller I'm gonna go in the time to see what you're dealing with see if she's not in the club you already what do you tell me about this I'm married yeah well I understand he's trying to slip me up he's trying to slip me up then you hear the man he's a disclaimer you gotta relax though oh man you gotta be dealing with overnigging you gotta have to go it's over move on nah but I'm just saying like everyday I just think it's like easier to meet people online cause people that's a tool that we didn't have yeah but we talk to a person you don't gotta worry about it we talk to people that way we did the mother fucker I went to the restaurant the other day nobody was doing everybody was like this the whole fucking restaurant I was like damn I'm like I'm being Bowie I took a picture of it look at all these dumb motherfuckers they don't even communicate no more you go to a restaurant they should be crazy we're not pretty much going to need to talk no more one of the memes was funny they had all the emojis we was going back to like we don't really need to we're losing some people skills there actually I've seen some technology not to go to where I to this whole other deep shit but like I've seen someone on this show where it can read your body language it can read your thing certain muscles in your body and it'll make this thing do it on the screen like it opened up like you can think I want to open up that flower it'll open up there's some hot nigga shit right here they say like you don't even have to talk to somebody oh no they do got this shit that's connected to the brain that people are using when they losing love honestly if you think about it you don't talk to nobody enough cause you can get full feelings through text so you ain't talking damn time but y'all them being communicating through text you feel like damn I know this one so it's kind of the same thing you see where I'm going there? I'm high but I know what I'm talking about there's definitely some hot nigga shit though he don't even hear that I catch a contact as far as I go so what's next with DJ what's next is it a man I never know man I always keep a few you know a few in in the chamber so it's you load it up and then we just kind of you know and you import all Fridays right all of the Fridays I get credit on next Friday and Friday after this but I don't have anything to do with writing on them cause I see it still says characters based on yeah so because if you write something then you always and what's the last time you and Q work together I mean Q and worked together a lot but we working on last Friday did we just let the hat out the bag now Q kind of put it out there I think he mentioned it in our podcast but it's still out like we breaking news ooh and now all the Q's in the bucket last Friday now is Chris Tucker you know what I don't know I think he's gonna boil down to once we have a script I could definitely holler at me I ain't gotta pay me nothing I just want to be a part of the movie I might pay for my own flight nah smokey gotta come back be real that piece of David nah and you know the greats you do this Friday is really one day so he don't gotta come back and be all he just come back he got his shape he went to the gym he looking young man the nigga old man he old right cause what what was it um Rancho Cucamonga yeah I never knew that was a real place I didn't need to tell him to do a show out there I thought y'all made that shit up I got booked in Rancho Cucamonga I was like what the shit is real I was like somebody play with me somebody play with me man listen man both of you brothers we thank y'all for your time thank y'all for anything y'all want to tell y'all fans y'all people's you know our fans you know what I mean you just you know talk where to catch the film at like when what there's a theater everywhere if you want to find out which theater in your city go to Fandago.com and you can see it I mean it's a funny movie wait wait but that's very interesting I was thinking y'all was going straight to DVD you saying this is in theaters and it's independent you got to break that down for the people that's listening tell tell tell them you just broke it down man we going to the theaters how far you want to break it down as you make the phone call you tie this one but listen you gotta realize when people hear independent they think it is just you like there's nobody else so like that's the hardest part the hardest part is to get theatrical distribution we're working with Rocky Mountain High along with Hollywood films Hollywood films we're pushing it forward man and we we're not frown upon we you know what I'm saying it's correct no frown upon it because you're going to be used to it in a couple years like west coast is pretty much like 10 years especially Cali I think it's like 8 to 10 years ahead of the east coast of course you've been in Amsterdam before? Cali just got the best the best weed that's the country to me all I have to say is you got to go to Tivoli Gardens to get a good weed in Jamaica you got to go on the hook on the trip I've been to Mountain View and Seaboo every time I say Jamaica my little accent come out I be fake to make you put that in that second it's not illegal there in Jamaica it's clear because I know before it's clear but before as soon as you get off the plane that was the ban shit always right they had a sack you put your hand in I did that before too and I got back to my room and opened up and some ants and shit was crawling around I was like what the fuck would smoke this but at the end of the day weed is good it's no what like licking and killing more people than weed straight up this is way more dangerous than that so why not have and it's proven that it's brought crime rate down in Denver that's real you know I ain't been in Denver since it been legal again I've been in Denver when it was illegal and I ain't get your niggas in Denver what me man you know it's always a funny when the fans just make you insane I'm gonna go to the to jail for seeing the Vegas and Florida made it medical and decriminalized it too but Vegas got all the ass remember how they used to have the ass for the strip clubs and they got ass for weed I was in Vegas and witnessed two short getting booked for something like this I was standing next to him he's like police rolled up on him and he had something like this in his hand and they locked him up for that you know I seemed with Ice Cube the other day Stanley I told him I'm gonna keep off the grass brother Rod yo man I just watched out on No Friday that was really really a classic movie that was something I'm gonna tell you music introduced us to what the West Coast was we got to know that and then we had boys in the hood and colors and all this but we needed to understand that it was California and you know the West Coast was just regular niggas just like us and Friday identified with every person and I've never seen a movie that's more relatable I think that's why people really did take to it man because everybody know like the crack it everybody knows my heart is barring and shit everybody knows somebody you need me to name a little more you said you said it's gonna be both of us you know that man my father tripped now I'm competition all the way my father tripped we ain't taking a shot with DJ pool what are we doing come on come on you gotta take a shot of patrol I'm gonna be honest I don't think I'm gonna take a shot but I'm gonna salute what you talking about I'm lying I'm lying I'm sorry you got a clean cup for me you hit that cup and I hit it I hit it right now play your cup right here this shit is breaking again that shit be breaking like a mother I ain't gonna lie let me tell you what I'm doing you don't have to fit far it's a little bit I'm gonna tell you what I'm gonna do this shit gonna be a blunt you drink it in a second you're gonna get him drink but you're gonna easily break that shit everybody had wild years in their life like you know when you was out of control you was out of control sober yeah if I wasn't really bad but I was just hustling I wasn't the shooter salute DJ mother fucking pool don't let me just shout at the buddy oh my bad they done caught me salute my brother listen man give your legends the flowers and this patron is going to the dawn ahh to kill you you know what what's wrong it makes me wanna pop and lock this shit I'm gonna tell you I'm gonna tell you what what's wrong is dangerous you go so far that's your stage in your it's stage in your life in your fucking new birth they just hate that shit they wouldn't give that shit to their dog but you know your dog Julio is the better by the way by the way we just took we took him to Delión Delión is the best the best to kill in the world by the way I don't want to do that out there his exact agrees come on relax come on come on we family we are joking what's your next show that you're doing cause I know you used to watch Guy Kord hip hop squares they always show me love I guess I'm one of them one of them residents in hip hop school I'm just doing what I'm supposed to that's cubes right I didn't get a chance to see it I'm a little disappointed in myself cause I've seen every episode of hip hop and that's to come on right out there cubes stepped into that and made that motherfucker fly not to mention it wasn't involved it wasn't what you thought it wasn't you to Rosenberg you could see cubes handprint on that and then when you look at a cube doing some big shit like big three you know what I'm saying he's stepping up on some way other shit this is why hip hop is dope this is why hip hop is dope you got people that transition from from fuck the police fuck the police they got a content rock and roll all the fame basketball league did you like that movie straight out of a content I loved it I thought it was incredible man and I was there that's why your opinion is different from all this it was some of everybody's story into a movie cause you understand the movie process this wasn't in there and this thing you can't put everything in a movie and you got to take it from people's point of view cause we always think cause everybody got a different story yes you do you might tell your story and of course anybody gonna tell you I ain't even thinking what my ass he ain't even thinking anything at the end of the day Gary Gray taking all these stories and making a brilliant film was exactly what happened Gary Gray actually went and interviewed people like you know all the people and I heard that he actually gonna turn this into a documentary like of the actual real footage what story would you want to hear about like if you can hear your own hip hop story your own story my own my choice I would like to do a movie on Clarence 13X he was the leader of the 5% nation of Islam his story to me is like an outpost story without the drugs but he was on drugs he wasn't selling the drugs you know what I'm saying but he changed the culture so I'm actually gonna try to do that right now that sounds kinda like what they're going through now because these kids on drugs no no here's the problem we grew up we were we were god bodies we were 5% so you had a certain type of righteousness that you had to have about you in that era right now we don't have that we got gang culture gang culture is controlling even the east coast you understand what I'm saying so where's the balance level is back with this level you gotta balance it so where's the balance so I want to make a movie about what I saw because when I saw growing up the oh jeez made me go to school the niggas would be like yo what are you doing you cutting school what the fuck out of here the niggas would put you in a car take me to school right now the niggas getting high with them niggas niggas getting school come here shorty come here shorty I'm scared about what they're going to do yeah they're gonna hear what yeah but what I'm saying is it was it was organization like we actually like a village it takes a village what they say like I actually felt that growing up like I know personally I didn't do that for a lot of the young niggas I was like fuck what are you doing all right cause but I was famous but I gotta say I was famous and I didn't want to seem like I'm the guy that was like empowering you cause I'm famous you know what I'm saying so it was different for me but I personally definitely dropped the ball yeah we all did the whole generation dropped the ball that's part of growing up man us dropping the ball comes from somewhere from the generation before us mm-hmm there's just a kind of domino effect yeah it's not like you know we didn't have help with hands in that right or the hands in that too now what was the relationship with 2pop it was always just a friend it's always somebody that I I lived in there with 3 and real cool cat back digital underground days as well going back that far back and I worked with pop for these records all eyes on me and uh what you think about that movie you know that was my next question right it's gonna be super do super super did you see I saw some of the movie what I saw was dope I'm gonna shit with nobody hate on them a hell t-hunt as a movie or as facts so you don't like to sing what I saw as a movie I think it's gonna be dope I can't say you know factually right just a ticket in a whole wall good but from what I saw wow I can't wait just 16th I never used to have that with the straight out of cotton you know what I ain't gonna predict nothing but I'm gonna say it's definitely it's not it's not you know people have I've seen people hate on it have even seen it and anyway I can hate on what I saw so I don't know what the hell they saw but it was the one dude from now not the outlaw okay uh no what's his name noble noble oh it was a noble yeah um he had just wrote a letter no pen letter to uh yeah to all hit you remember it more than me because I remember it but I was a little distressed what was I mean I don't think he had beef with the movie I don't think he had beef with the movie he was just explaining that a lot of he's he feels like some of the things that they're doing is entertainment purposes as opposed to because he feels like he has that yes that's why that's why it is a movie and that's that's the hardest part about telling somebody's story is like when it's like yeah we want to have it to where when like you had this party you know you the people were like you know it was a lot more women there they were a lot better looking it's like no it was the whole girls you know no I had on blue shoes you know it wouldn't raise shoes the fine details were important to some people and that's why they usually they don't even let those people come on to the set if you want a real thing that's a documentary well this is gonna be right no you're right this is gonna be great it's like whoever story it is sometimes they don't even get a chance to come but he's gonna be deeper than that he was saying that they weren't allowing them they were like their involvement in the film the the estate the mother like all this different stuff that he was throwing in the mix it was it was like John Singleton is what it was like if you read it like there are differences in opinion and disagreements on every project sometimes one is just put out there in public you know what I'm saying everybody can weigh in on it you know why this is gonna be more controversial is because the reason why this is gonna be more controversial is because Pac is not here to actually say no or yes this is exactly how it happened like the great thing about straight out of Compton is MC Wren is here whose story is the all lies I mean whose perspective is coming out I believe it's aphine I'm not sure no I don't think so it's from pop's point of view I mean you saw parts of it I believe it's just a story being told from a writer's perspective that was given this from a collection of of people and information research which I think is usually the best way to do it you know usually not just in a box case but any movie like oh man you know I had billion dollars no I had a billion you know that Trump shit and bigger than the Benny boom because he had a very tough job right now he hasn't picked up the phone since he started the two-part project but that's another story I thought I was calling for a role relax nigga I wanted to make it I think a lot of it is that BMA it was to be made for yes yes and so now the fact that straight out of company came out and then everybody suddenly it's like oh well this is happening just because of this and that and it's like people for all the wrong reasons are judging it I think we just got to kind of let it happen and to go back I want to go right back there but to go back to what you asked me earlier that was like my passion project but when you got I feel like you was action hip hop I would make the big pun movie yeah I would make the big pun movie his story got on top you know what I'm saying but see that's the thing about it is like how do you do that how do you even start that project I know you got to go through the state you know you got to go through that but what if I'm telling a pun story from my perspective that's why you put an auto bond for right on yeah because I don't well that's the message he's talking about it's perspectives I'm going to ask somebody else's perspective on somebody I can sit in my best friend in hip hop you know what I'm saying like legally and technically you don't have to go to a public figure and say I'm going to tell this life story you know nobody wanted a lifetime channel to tell the Jackson story yeah and TLC so you can't stop people from doing it but when you don't have people's blessings I think it makes it unauthentic it makes it unauthentic it just makes it rougher for that it's always messy it's messy it's like who's making the money from this if we are because just because it doesn't have that blessing doesn't mean it's not even more factual right it just means you know some people may not have wanted certain things to be seen or different ones it could be money made off of it it could be a million different reasons why people have their beefs over something being made or rather the actual people or the family or whatever a state sign or not I can tell you who I wanted you know who I want to play when you say Cils Rowe I want to play Jay Prince I want to do his story Jay Prince story be you know you mad smart but yeah you can't be funny though he's super nice you know what I mean but he's kind of a little funny too yeah yeah yeah there's nothing in that no I'm just saying as far as you don't have to be he is funny you don't have to be like Jay Prince story I want to do the freeway Rick and Ross I thought you was talking about freeway his story he needs that's what he needs to be made to those two there I want to do those two stories like if I had to do somebody I'd do those two yeah freeway Rick Ross you can't do freeway no no no I'm talking about I'm not gonna tell you no we got to stop we got to stop you can't do this but we definitely need to hear even if it ain't for me doing Jay Prince story that's just like the foul that is dope he's pretty much the king that is dope he's like the Russ and Sam is the south so him I'm about to say Luke he's got his story too he brought all the freaky shit to him who could play Luke that's funny who could play Luke but they'll be fun for them play Luke I went too far I went too far I just don't see it I was comedians feeling about Kevin Hart being that Kevin Hart is like the forefront of comedy right now like I always say like airy spares and we've seen what just happened God bless him all the comedians have a past I always felt like you could tell me anything and offend me but the fact that you're a comedian I'm gonna give you the past but how does comedians feel about Kevin Hart because like I said I hear people like airy spares they say this and that I can't speak about it that's even better than that I feel he deserves everything he did because he put it on you know his first movie he ever made was called paper soldiers the first time you ever seen him on film it wasn't because of you though I feel like I got something to do with it I thought we bonded I'm gonna admit I'm gonna admit he did all that on his own he worked hard the Hollywood had pretty much said fuck him because he was already popping in how he had his own soul train put a little before Soul Plane he had a sitcom and all that he had a sitcom not the husband's of Hollywood no waves I'm gonna admit I forgot the name of it but XB had his own sitcom get the fuck out of here and fly a lot of people had this sitcom and them bitches go away and you forget and you put in some sense so he's been in the record thing he's done the run as far as in the Hollywood and then he still when he started doing his own thing like when social media came out to get between me and him he monetized on this shit I was just having fun he actually took it and said boom and created his buzz and he did all the shit he deserved all that shit he did I want the fans to listen that is the new hottest word for 2017 monetize I hear that shit all the time monetize how you monetize I think it's always been a hot word I just restarted okay we need to stop monetizing so but I took because Kevin Hart is funny to me so when I hear another comedian but comedy is subjective what's funny to you might not be funny to me what's funny to you that's why you can't compare it to any it's like rapping in rap you don't ever say who the best I mean like it's only one rapper can pop you got a thousand rappers pop you got a new rapper it's the same as comedian you don't have to have just one favorite comedian but people think you do niggas think you do niggas think only one comedian can be at top but shit is there one I mean you have a rapper you got all types of rappers I have whatever your vice is there can only be one great country singer not a great rock singer god brocks you don't hear that shit you don't hear that shit but in comedy and black comedy we only can let one win there should be a wide range of choices and I think that's what makes people even better because it makes it a little bit more competitive in a good way because when there is a little competition the fans always benefit why do we don't have records like self destruction and all in the same gang because that's the I don't give a shit error this is the get high now this is the have fun think about consequences later that's one thing I would say about these kids they ain't scared of shit these kids ain't scared of nothing but they don't realize you know what comes with that because they weren't talking they just look at like if you look on social media you want to have fun and they don't look like there's no consequences and even the foul shit like the world star era the foul shit is fun like yo it's fun but they got a bitch called meet me outside catch me outside and she and she pop it in and she pop it in we are making bozos famous this is the fact you gotta stop but I mean it ain't them that's making this the people the people do it you can't blame the person you can't blame the audience catch me outside catch me outside I mean you can't blame the people she's supposed to chase it no is this is that all the reflection of the culture is the stuff we all as humans as we get better in technology we get dumbest we all have ball of emotions so we're all emotional so we all react first that's why I would say fake care cause we always fake care about something that was always that culture too I like that we all wear everything that everybody does can be seen by so many so fast so much we got so much for you people ain't living for themselves no more they living for the public they not enjoying their lives nowadays when you share the video you have people come over to your house and you pop it in the thing and show it to them it was only one like say Finn Marlin only came in once a week and it was I remember when the cable box only had 30 channels how old are you you got old on that come on my space gave it away alright my space this is a good line but in all respect you still got 30 channels but I mean but you got a variety of stuff it's just like social media music it's so much music it's too much it's over saturated that's what I always say I say a nigga that don't follow nobody on social media is out of his mind he's crazy because if you just looking at your own shit you don't understand that other people in the world doing some great shit you just look that social media is only as good as the people you follow that's in everything it's just like everything you like I follow people I got nothing to come with because I know all these I know y'all niggas I know y'all like I'm trying to learn I'm drinking but I try to learn that's how I learn through social media like follow Bruce Jeter I know where you're at you always slip that in the face you know what I like fuck they were my space friends they were my space friends no second friend Tom it's all how you use it social media it's about who use it it's how you use it how you use it the key of somebody it's not the gun the same thing with the internet some people learn from it you got people that learn more on the YouTube than they do in school YouTube University you learn how to build a plane so it's something you learn that for people that you know or you can learn to build a house so it's all in the person is there a person that's like off limits as a comedian there's a rumor don't say nothing about him don't be grown up and fuck with his kids everybody else they all free if I feel a certain type of way I'm never gonna be with me I'm not disrespectful then but if I see something you fuck up you know what I'm saying that's how I am so we see just now Erie Spirits I said his name right yeah, Erie Spirits he did a podcast and he was talking tough they were talking tough to each other and then the guy actually swung on Erie Spirits doing the interview? yeah, yeah he swung but you asked for it if you said I can do this do it I can beat your motherfucking ass and be surprised when you beat my motherfucking ass I'm gonna fight back if I think that I would expect that this nigga fold it up I don't know even I would have hugged him if he camera right then we couldn't toss him into that camera fall and I'm tossing it towards that camera I need a fist to fall on the haymakers if I know I can't beat but I mean I don't know I gotta say with that I gotta say with that that Erie didn't attack dude and I just have to say that some of us I feel like Erie's gonna sue some of us can't handle a conversation and no matter what somebody says that's just what somebody says the mind you can't push honestly but at the same time if I can get anybody in here to react I'm pretty strong but this is why I don't like to talk religion or politics because I'm hearing this was over Obama he said something about Erie's spirit I don't even know exactly what it was about Obama but it was something about Erie's some crazy about Obama cause I only saw that niggas ain't gonna watch the whole thing when it was gone fight what was that and that's all I call are the niggas like that in the world? that's everybody like that oh he stood there for the comment take me to the chicken and walk 18 of them go right there that's all we all do one of Erie's is baiting this dude into it and then now he's suing him or whatever I'm not saying that's the case or nothing but I'm just saying no because for years it was like an unwritten rule if a comedian goes too far says something he has the ultimate golden pass most young people don't even know what a comedian is for real because they talk of what they think comedians do is on the internet so they ain't never been to a stand up show so they don't really know what comedians is so in their minds like you said y'all might be like oh he's funny he's just talking crazy and he's taking the fence now I got to a point if I say somebody a rapper they'll call me I'm like is you for real Calla called me one time man you tripping man walk us through the Calla call one time you know what I always fuck with people couple people call me Sean I mean what's the dude Sean Jarrett this thing got mad at me because I called him ugly he got mad because I called him ugly this I swear to God and so he called I called you ugly what nigga you a man I didn't believe I didn't realize how soft a lot of people were or how powerful you are cause you can you can shift the whole audience to think like that but that's like in the school room I treat it like school cause you don't even I guess it's just people can't take that or you don't know how powerful you are because you know what it is a lot of us got followers that go harder than we go so you can say they'll push the buttons for you man you know how many times the B had and came to me and it don't bother me but you gotta tell us the Calla story you gotta tell us the Calla story the Calla story was um you know he had Ace Hood and he was promoting him and Ace Hood came out and so and Ace Hood came out the same day Jay-Z came out so I tweeted something like I don't know who the fuck would put this shit out why Jay-Z out that was stupid so Calla called me man why don't you say that man you know man he works out this I said Calla it's the truth for one man you know I ain't being serious I'm not I'm not trying to be serious cause the funny thing about it Ace was laughing too it's just Calla was passionate about it he's super passionate Ace got his advance already that's why I'm a college he needed to make that back I guess that's what it was but I don't think because at the end I'm a stand a comedian they used to do Miami Emperor in Coconut Grove they all came to see me perform and I raked on them all day in there that's all that happened there the only thing that I'm afraid they raked back was Trick Daddy Trick Daddy used to come back and forth with people but everybody else they knew what it was so I'm thinking we can do that now but on their internet they wasn't with that shit I'm like what the fuck you niggas it's really you know I realized when an artist makes an album we ain't never looking at it like this is a throw away we're always looking at it like this is that one so you don't know you might have shifted energy you ain't mean it I understand what you're talking about but when you say earlier something's not even over the comedian you have no comedian he do know he's come to comic clubs you got a million followers these people following you they're hurting people that wake up in the morning that just going to do what you do they look at you and they say oh this nigga and I ain't with the starbucks I'm going to starbucks right now I remember all the time on Def Comic Jam when Anthony Mason was in the crowd and somebody on stage shitted on him so bad and it wasn't no big deal we had roast and it wasn't no big deal you know what I'm saying we're in the Perlman era but it's a public stage social media is a public stage you can say anything about Snoop he probably laugh harder than you that's how I would think he reposted it he reposted it because they don't take it seriously it ain't personal Snoop have a fun he'll post something and my brother's gonna be hurt he'll be hurt he'll talk about how Snoop might talk about somebody and they get mad it's joking it's a social media because we remember Fabulous and Ray J got into it over a tweet it's very dangerous out there but at the end of the day I understand why because it's like unless we had just talked about what we did earlier that's the part of the game the fans will never see just us just sitting around the same thing we do now but now we know the cameras is on but earlier we did the same exact thing people don't know that side of the story so when Lil Devoe goes man, what do you think is bad? why this shit? he offended those you're playing but there is all your friends yo you fucking white beard motherfucker all your fans that you don't know but he's saying that some other people the way they make it but that's what I'm saying that's why I said people ain't like me I don't take stuff at all because people come to me all the time and say that's why you enjoy it they don't post a picture saying I'm sucking some big fat lady toe I'm like I thought you were going somewhere else they say I'm sucking some big fat bitch they're like don't post that I was like I'm fucking kidding I'm feeling funny I'm saying stuff like that y'all think this is a joke I can take a joke that's the problem everybody can take a joke everybody can take a joke people are insecure especially artists you know what it is like I said it's people who really think they're talking to you they don't really think that we just look at it and say look at this me and they don't think they're doing that they're thinking that we're basing our whole life or for this comment that he just said and that's why I like the Q I come at me all the time but that don't bother me that's why I never understood but the me have is very dangerous Beyonce's fans leave them alone they don't bother me I don't want to bother with the band they came to me but they never did nothing I don't know but everything I say is never disrespect so I can always defend every time they come out and be like boom kill it most of the time they be talking crazy be kids and be honest people you can't fuck with me on a people need I think you have every what's up with the arm? the R&B fans are thugged out online R&B every hack you can think of they cyber thugs they say don't bother me Snoop got a whole army of people you can fuck with Snoop our drink chance army goes in but they going on us as well they think they know us the motto is we have the hops all of them have the hops everybody got the hops I don't have all of them Future's hop is very disrespectful you see what they be doing in Russell Wilson oh my god they be in Russell Wilson comments I want to tell you who got the illest comments Birdman Mary J. Bly's husband people are their fans comments listen anytime I'm having a bad day I go look at them niggas comments I'm like you gotta read my comments they already just a motherfucker but I just I have a bad day but like look I'm going to birdman shit yo paint little Wayne yo Rick Ross I'm like alright cool that's cool but Mary Mary's fans speak listen to this nigga yo yo you gotta have a bad day have a good day and look at this niggas comments I don't follow them nothing I'll just be like yo I don't even want to be like I don't like nothing well he's about to find out you're not here I'm just I'm going with the old ladies we're like scum back you see he's the live cousin of the trolling oh they trolling the shit out of him you better leave Mary alone give her hard money I'll be like what cause now I'm gonna say something that I not love Mary but I feel like she should pay him all the all the relationships that guys been through and they have to pay Mary is up I love you I'm so sorry but I feel like you not pay him what he asking for is this what they're talking about but you gotta pay him something he went through turmoil too in my mind I don't know any person but listen he really know her I don't know you're right she gave me that look and I'm like Mary may have my phone number somewhere so no but what I'm saying is as many guys broke up and they had to pay alimony with the call that shit as many but this nigga deserve a little something all the he deserve everything he asking for but he's been with Mary for 10 years you supposed to be the spouse that makes more money supposed to no canny got up she got up that was a move 500 million that was fucked up girl man what happened they're pretty natural said she have a baby she gets 500 million from homie you know this is drunk facts by the way so once she had the baby she broke 500 million let's make some more shenanigans couple months after this give me your dick nigga boom give me pregnant I got 500 she got pregnant she's close to 60 damn her over is off the chain I don't think she did it like the normal way though nah somebody else handed her she had the eggs coming in listen this is no way you are pennie from good times I am you are penetrating we ain't doing no traditional what is that squeeze that shit up in there nah if that nigga is fucking he gotta be the jenny might not mean as much to him as he mean to us nah but that's just like a toy everybody had good times nah what he's saying that dude ain't looking at the same way jenny they is them too listen wait what do you mean everybody had good times jenny ain't no oh you talking about the show they didn't have good times over there look at that yo listen man once again go see grow house dropping 420 on 420 all across america they hung out I smoked a thousand dollar blunt then she got me fucked up I drink a whole bottle of sorok and deli on to the self you know it's not really well man we having fun thank you guys for coming through thank you high five man and yo yo and this is real because there was no publicist involved there wasn't we just seen each other said how you doing when I saw your snap I told Haz on the plane I hope you told him to do the podcast I did that we don't even have the podcast dream champs goddammit dream champs look at my robe it's man expensive expensive one love dream champs mother fucker podcast this is an I heart podcast guaranteed human