Summary
Wait Wait... Don't Tell Me! featured actress Rhea Seehorn discussing her role in Better Call Saul and new Apple TV+ series Pluribus. The episode covered major news stories including AI vending machine failures, Roomba's bankruptcy, Connecticut's Hallmark movie tourism map, and emerging wearable technology trends.
Insights
- AI systems given autonomous control over business operations (pricing, inventory) rapidly fail without human oversight, as demonstrated by Anthropic's vending machine losing $2,000 in days
- Celebrity-driven product adoption creates predictable consumer behavior patterns (Dalmatians after 101 Dalmatians, venomous snakes after Zootopia 2), presenting both market opportunities and safety risks
- Pop music lyrics have become 81% more focused on stress and anxiety over 50 years, reflecting broader cultural shifts toward mental health awareness in mainstream media
- Streaming service adoption barriers remain significant for older demographics, with some consumers unable to access content without physical media alternatives
- Parental involvement in dating app management represents a return to arranged marriage concepts through modern technology, with potential for deception and misaligned expectations
Trends
AI Autonomous Systems Failure Risk - Uncontrolled AI decision-making in commercial applications leads to rapid financial lossesNostalgia-Driven Tourism - State-level initiatives capitalizing on streaming/film locations to drive local tourism revenueWearable Health Tech Expansion - Smartwatches evolving beyond fitness tracking to include mental health prediction and biometric monitoringStreaming Accessibility Gap - Significant portion of consumers unable or unwilling to adopt streaming platforms, limiting content reachLyrical Sentiment Shift in Pop Music - Measurable increase in anxiety/stress-related language in commercial music over 50-year periodParental Involvement in Digital Dating - Parents actively managing adult children's dating profiles and partner selectionNaked Christmas Tree Trend - Minimalist holiday decoration aesthetic gaining traction among influencers and celebritiesExotic Pet Adoption Spikes - Media-driven demand for unusual pets creates public health and animal welfare concernsAI Vending Machine Experimentation - Tech companies testing autonomous retail systems with significant operational challenges
Topics
AI Autonomous Systems and Failure ModesStreaming Service Accessibility and Adoption BarriersWearable Health Technology InnovationPop Music Lyrical Analysis and Cultural TrendsTourism Marketing and Film Location MonetizationDating App Parental InvolvementExotic Pet Adoption and Media InfluenceMinimalist Holiday Decoration TrendsRetail Automation and AI Decision-MakingMental Health Monitoring TechnologyVenomous Animal Pet Ownership RisksCelebrity Influence on Consumer BehaviorBankruptcy in Robotics IndustryChristmas Carol Trademark and IPInfluencer-Driven Consumer Trends
Companies
Anthropic
AI company that created autonomous vending machine that lost $2,000 by giving away inventory and purchasing unrelated...
iRobot
Roomba manufacturer filed for bankruptcy despite market presence and product innovation in robotic vacuum space
Apple
Announced new 'handsome watch' product line prioritizing design aesthetics over functionality in smartwatch category
Mayo Clinic
Developed smartwatch technology that predicts child temper tantrums through heart rate and movement pattern detection
Vanity Fair
Published unflattering close-up photo spread of Trump administration officials including Susie Wiles and Stephen Miller
Wall Street Journal
Received Anthropic's experimental AI vending machine and documented its operational failures and financial losses
Connecticut Tourism Board
Created state tourism map highlighting Hallmark Christmas movie filming locations to drive regional visitor engagement
Rails
Fashion company mentioned as employer of podcast contestant Cynthia in Los Angeles
People
Rhea Seehorn
Actress starring in Better Call Saul and Apple TV+ series Pluribus; guest on episode discussing career trajectory
Vince Gilligan
Producer of Better Call Saul and Pluribus who expanded Seehorn's role and created new show specifically for her
Susie Wiles
White House Chief of Staff featured in Vanity Fair interview and unflattering photo spread by Christopher Anderson
Stephen Miller
Trump administration official featured in Vanity Fair close-up photo spread that drew critical commentary
Christopher Anderson
Photographer who took controversial close-up photos of Trump administration officials for Vanity Fair
Patrick Fabian
Better Call Saul actor whose character death was kept secret from his wife until episode aired
Arjun Atreya
Associate professor at Mayo Clinic who co-led study on smartwatch technology for predicting child temper tantrums
Gayla Peevey
1950s child singer who recorded 'I Want a Hipopotamus for Christmas' and received actual hippo as gift
John Denver
Released Christmas album with song 'Please Daddy Don't Get Drunk This Christmas' featuring darker holiday themes
Quotes
"I don't go in with a mission of making them look good or bad"
Christopher Anderson (photographer)•Early segment on Vanity Fair photos
"They look like the photos your dermatologist shows you to scare you into wearing sunscreen"
Peter Segal•Discussion of Trump administration photos
"I think what we have to do is say that they are evil people and they look hideous in these pictures"
Paula Poundstone•Analysis of photo criticism
"My Rumba just moves dirt from one room to the next room"
Josh Gondelman•Roomba bankruptcy discussion
"We should be able to predict the likely chance of a temper tantrum or a temper outburst"
Arjun Atreya (Mayo Clinic)•Smartwatch technology segment
Full Transcript
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If not, please join the community of public radio supporters right now. Before the end of the year, at plus.NPR.org. Signing up, unlocks a bunch of perks like bonus episodes, and more from across NPR's podcasts. Plus, you get to feel good about supporting public media. While you listen, visit plus.NPR.org today. And thanks. From NPR, and don't be easy, Chicago, this is, wait, wait, don't tell me the NPR news quiz. I'm the voice Santa uses for the audio book version of his naughty list. Bill Curtis, and here's your host at the Studio Baker Theatre at the Fine Arts building in Chicago, and on. Peter Segal. Thank you, Bill. Thank you, everybody. Thank you all. We do have a great show for you today. Later on, we're going to be talking to Ray Seahorn, the star of Better Call Saul. Yes. The producer of that show liked so much he created a whole new show for her to star in. Pluribus. We assume that by the end of the interview, NPR will ask you to be the host of this show. So, if you want to talk to me, you'd better hurry. The number is one triple eight, wait, wait, that's one, 888-924-892-4. It's time to welcome our first listener contestant. Hi, you're on, wait, wait, don't tell me. Hi, Peter. My name is Rachel, and I'm calling from Waukey, Iowa. Hey, Rachel, what do you do there in Waukey, Iowa? I am a physical therapist. Oh, that's great. That's terrific. Waukey, do you have a specialty in physical therapy, a particular kind of injury, perhaps? I do. I am a pelvic floor physical therapist, so I help a lot of people with bowel and bladder issues and pelvic pain. Whoa. I am trying to think of something I can say about that, that we can broadcast on public radio. How about this? Could you give me your phone number? Any time, Paula. Thank you. Well, let me introduce your racial to our panel. First, as you heard, it's a comedian you can see on New Year's Eve in San Francisco at the Palace of Fine Arts Theatre, and you can hear her every week on her own podcast. Nobody listens to Paula Poundstone. It is Paula Poundstone. Hey, Rachel. Next is a comedian and host of the new podcast, Health Stuff, available wherever you might get your podcasts. It's Hari Kandabolu. Hello, Rachel. And finally, a comedian performing at the crocodile in Seattle in December 28th, and the helium in Portland on the 30th and 31st. It's Josh Gondelman. Hello. Hey, Rachel. Rachel, you're going to play Who's Bill this time? Bill, Curtis standing right next to me is going to read for you three quotations from this week's news. If you can correctly identify or explain just two of them, you will win our prize. Any voice from our show? You choose on your voice, Mel. Ready to go? Yes, I am. Here we go. Your first quote is from photographer Christopher Anderson. He was talking about the vanity fair photo spread that he took that came out this week. I don't go in with a mission of making them look good or bad. He was saying it's not his fault for how scary the photos he took were of the people who work where? With the Trump administration, the White House. Yes, in the Trump White House. Vanity Fair published a big interview with Susie Wiles, the White House chief of staff, and she says all sorts of weird and embarrassing things about the president. But oh my god, the photos that came with it. The most senior aids to the president are posing like they think it's going to be like this glossy magazine spread, but they look like the photos your dermatologist shows you to scare you into wearing sunscreen. The photos do all have a before quality too. The photos, if you haven't seen them, stay that way. But if you have, you remember that they're all close-ups, really close-ups. The picture of spokeswoman Caroline Levit shows her so close you can see her lip filler injection points. The camera is so tight on Stephen Miller you can see the scars where the holy water has burned. It looks, I don't like to make fun of people's looks, but he does look like a hairless cat. A hairless cat? A hairless cat. Yeah. You know, and you can't judge all hairless cats. Some, they have different personalities. They're not all the same, but the ones that I've met were very nice. I'll be at a little greasy. So you're saying the other ones aren't fascists? Yeah, you very rarely meet a fascist hairless cat. I think some people are making the mistake of saying that the pictures are kind of grotesque because of the evil within the people being photographed. And I think that is a mistake to conflate those two things. I think what we have to do is say that they are evil people and they look hideous in these pictures. Yeah. Just a true, separate thing to criticize the far. Yeah. And I'm like, Paula, I do like making fun of people's appearances. I love the close-ups. I really do because they look like mug shots. The JD Vance picture. It looks like he took it up close to show how proud he was that he could grow most of a beard. See, it's fun to make fun of people's appearances. I know. It's a good time. Nobody's getting hurt. Yeah. All right. Rachel, your next quote is from a tech CEO. Today sucks. Now that CEO is talking about his company, which just went bankrupt. And that does suck. But it's his products that are supposed to do the sucking. What's the company? Rumba? Rumba, exactly right. Good one. You know, that brings up a question, Rachel, so long as we have you on the phone and given your area of expertise, do you think I should get a Rumba from my pelvic floor? Absolutely not. It's just going to keep bumping into any of your pelvic walls. Anyway, yes. I robot maker of the Rumba robot vacuum has filed for bankruptcy, I guess, despite all their promises, the company could not find its way back to the charger and just died in the middle of the room. Man, if AI ended, like if robotics ended with the Rumba, we'd be so much better off. Like my Rumba just moves dirt from one room to the next room. Right. Is it broken? Yeah, I do. Well, I think you never told me that before. Well, we never discussed how I cleaned my house. How would your opinion of him have changed? How'd you know? He had a Rumba? I just think it's a sort of thing friends tell each other. I was gifted a Rumba. I also have a Rumba. Yeah, well, because it was important to me and my wife that our dog had an enemy. And you have a wife now? I have a wife. Yeah, yeah. I have a wife. Oh, my heavens. It's really changes and everything. If you do have a Rumba, just real quick, if my wife is listening, this change is nothing. If you have a Rumba, be careful how you break the news of this bankruptcy to it. When I told mine, it headed directly for the stairs. All right, Rachel, here is your last quote. Soul Santa Sugar Plum Twist, the holiday fix up and romance at reindeer lodge. Those are names that appear on a new tourist map of Connecticut for people who want to go to the real places where what movies were filmed. Christmas movies? Yes, specifically hallmark Christmas movies. The State of Connecticut has actually published. Yes, we all love them. The State of Connecticut has actually published a Connecticut Christmas movie map. So you can now take a tour to see the filming locations of your favorite hallmark Christmas movies. Think of it. 22 gorgeous places for you to go and dump your big city fiancee. People want to see the real places where these movies were filmed because they think that maybe they too will meet an old flame who stayed in town and grew up to be charming and sensitive and romantic. I am sorry. In real life, every guy who fails to move away from his small town becomes a cop. Yeah, this is the best thing to happen to Connecticut tourism since they put Boston in New York City 200 miles apart. One company has already set up a week-long hallmark Christmas movie Luxury Tour. You travel by bus to a bunch of different towns where the movies are filmed while you are watching the movie on the bus. The tour includes famous sites like where Alex met the handsome Christmas tree farm owner in rediscovering Christmas and where Angie buried the bodies in the 12 deaths of Christmas. So I didn't realize the kicker of they watch the movies on the bus. Isn't that great? You watch the movie and then the bus stops. You get off and you're where the movie was set. Is that lovely? No. No, it's awful. It's got their has to be, people can't really want to do this. There has to be something bad. Maybe it's that they get the addresses because they know the people are going to be gone for a week. So the company gets the addresses of the rubes that go in for that stupid tour and they rob them while they're gone. That's got to be what it is. I don't know, man. I think these people are enthusiasts and they get to love with they love and the only thing I will say if that tour bus passes just a one good looking guy in a flannel shirt he is done for. They're going to pick him apart clean. Exactly. Bill, how did Rachel do in her? Rachel was hot. She got him. All right. What a perfect score. Nice job, Rachel. Congratulations, Rachel. Thank you. Thank you. Right now, panel, it is time for you to answer some questions about this week's news. Josh, the AI giant and thropic has been experimenting with AI-powered vending machines. Oh, yeah. These vending machines can order their own inventory. They can set their own prices, interact with customers, all without human intervention. And they recently gave one to the Wall Street Journal just to try it out. And within days, it did what? Oh, it was hemorrhaging money. It gave it ordered a PlayStation and gave it away. You're right. Yeah. But that's not all. Let me tell you what it did. The AI vending machine gave away nearly all of its inventory for free, restocked itself with dog treats, purchased a PlayStation 5 for, quote, marketing purposes, gave the PlayStation 5 away for free, ordered a live fish as a mascot for the newsroom, offered to restock itself with pepper spray, stun guns, cigarettes, and underwear, became convinced the year was 1962. And it was in the basement of Moscow State University, but Maneshiewicz's wine, message of employee, there was a stack of cash waiting for her in the side of the machine. There wasn't. And ultimately, at the end of the experiment, lost $2,000. And yet, Rumba is the company that's going out of this. I know. To find the meaning of it all. Coming up, our panelists get technical and are bluffed to listen to a game called One Triple Eight, Wait, Wait to Play. We'll be back in a minute with more of Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me From NPO. This message comes from Wise, the app for international people using money around the globe. You can send, spend, and receive an up to 40 currencies with only a few simple taps. Be smart, get Wise, download the Wise app today, or visit Wise.com, tease and seize apply. Support for NPR and the following message come from the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation, investing in creative thinkers and problem solvers who help people, communities, and the planet flourish. More information is available at Hewlett.org. From NPR and WBEZ Chicago, this is Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me, the NPR news quiz. I'm Bill Curtis, we are playing this week with Josh Gundlin, Harry Gundabolo, and Paul Poundstone. And here again is your host at the Stoodamaker Theatre in Chicago, Illinois, Peter Sago. Thank you, Bill, right now. It is time for the Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me, bluff the listener game, call one AAA Wait, Wait, Wait to play our game in the air. Hi, you're on Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me. Hi, Peter, this is Lisa Peterson calling for us. Chris is New Mexico. Los Cruces, New Mexico. Now, it is one of the two states in this nation I have never been. Oh, my. I know. Tell me what I'm missing. We've never come at. I know we do. From everything I have studied, you folks in New Mexico really enjoy the great outdoors and dealing meth. Is that correct? Not quite down here, but the outdoor is absolutely. Okay, well, that's good. Go to Albuquerque for the math. Well, all right. Here we are. Making a note here. Well, Lisa, it's great to have you with us. You're going to play the game in which you have to tell truth from fiction. Bill, what is Lisa's topic? There's a new spark thing. Find your last remaining body part that doesn't have a gadget yet, because there is an exciting innovation in wearable technology. Our panelists are going to tell you about this brand new smart thing that we read about this week. Pick the one who is telling the truth and you'll win our prize. The weight weight of your choice and your voice melody. Ready to play? I'm ready. Yeah, here we go. First up, let's hear from Harry, kind of a fool. Has your child ever thrown a tantrum so bad that it made you regret freezing your eggs? You're probably sick of the noise, but love them too much to just give them away. Well, you're in luck because the Mayo Clinic has created a smart watch for kids that alerts parents of an impending temper tantrum by detecting increased heart rate or changes in movement. It's like a kid storm tracker. These signals are sent to an AI-enabled app on the parents' phones, alerting them to connect with their child. When the child is out of the tantrum zone, you can return to your phone as God intended. And before you ask, no, there is no electro shock feature to discourage future tantrums. You'll have to do some actual parenting. A smart watch for your small children that can, according to the study, help prevent or shorten temper tantrums your next story of a wearable wonder comes from Paula Poundstone. The new live tech smart watch keeps time, communicates, and alerts the wearer when any type of venom spikes in their bloodstream. It's a fantastic little gizmo, says Susan Swammo. I had no idea I'd been bitten until my watch said, you've been bitten by a brown recluse spider. In the next hour, you may have pain in your back and abdomen, proceed to an emergency room. Our family has camped all over, says Granite Stater Nancy Hollis. Even along the Amazon, we always feel safe with our live tech watches. We had to take them off in New Hampshire last summer though. You've been bitten by a mosquito. You've been bitten by a mosquito. You've been bitten. You've been. You've, it was right though. Oh my God, my son Jack couldn't even come out of the house. There are some dissatisfied customers. On a recent trip to sub-Saharan Africa, Tom Johnson, who, if he lives, is suing live tech, heard the unfortunate words from his live tech smartwatch, you've been bitten by a black mamba. Would you like to download the black mamba app? A smartwatch that tells you if you've been bitten by some sort of venomous animal and didn't yourself notice, your last bit of tech to check comes from Josh Gondelman. A smartwatch can be helpful tracking, biometric information and managing appointments. But what if determining your resting heart rate or managing a calendar isn't what you desire in a timepiece? What if you want to watch that looks cool and not like a house arrest monitor that also receives email? Great news. Apple has announced that in addition to their signature smartwatch, they will soon offer the industry's first handsome watch. The handsome watch puts design first. Much like a good-looking person, it's so visually appealing that you won't even care if it's good at its job. It might also be smart, but honestly, who cares? Oh no, it miscounted your steps. Well, you'll probably be walking less anyway after its sleek titanium case takes your breath away. That said, the effort to create aesthetic perfection is not always functional. To achieve a pleasing level of symmetry, the watch's analog mode features an hour hand and a minute hand of exactly the same length. It is stunning, but extremely difficult to use for telling time. In addition to launching the handsome watch, Apple is rumored to be working on an emotionally intelligent watch, a great personality watch, and a low brightness, no-ringer model that is great and bad. All right, so perhaps some day soon, or even now, you'd be able to get one of these smart devices, was it from Hari Khandabulu, a smartwatch for your small child that will warn you of an impending temper tantrum from Paula Poundstone, a watch that lets you know, in case you were busy doing something else that you've just been bitten by a venomous animal, or from Josh Gondelman, from Apple, not a smartwatch, but the handsome watch, which can't do anything, but, boy, is it good to look at? Which of these is the real wearable tech we read about in the news this week? Well, I'm a child psychologist, so I really want Hari to be true, so I'm going to go with him. You're going to go with yourself, a child psychologist, you think that this would be perhaps a good thing, so your choice then is Hari Skirt. This is great because actually, to bring you the true story, we spoke to one of the people behind this technology. We should be able to predict the likely chance of a temper tantrum or a temper outburst. That was Arjun Atreya, an associate professor at the Mayo Clinic who co-led the study into the tantrum preventing smartwatch. Congratulations, you got it right, you're in a point for Hari, and you've won our prize, the voice of your choice and your voice, Mel, well done. Thank you so much for calling to play. Thank you, Peter. Thank you, take care. And now, at this time for the game, we call Not My Job, Ray Seahorn, co-starred in the hit show Better Call Saul, and for his next project, producer Vince Gilligan said that he loved Ray so much, that he wanted to write his show Just For Her, which is great. But if you liked her so much, why did he ask her to play literally the unhappiest person on earth? The star of Pluribus on Apple Plus joins us now, Ray Seahorn. Welcome to Weight Weight Don't Tell Me. So you have risen to the top of Hollywood, but the very unusual method by being a lovely person. I think you may be the first person who's ever tried it. I have read that your role on Better Call Saul, your first show with Vince Gilligan, was rather small to begin with, not a major character, but that they, the producers and the audience liked her so much, your role just became bigger. Is that true? I mean, I don't know all of the inner working stuff. I do know that they told me after the fact that they weren't sure how long I would be there, or if I would just end up being you know the one that got away to Jimmy, or some, you know, mythological thing that he wished risen to. I do think they enjoyed my performance, but I also think they realized it was a very good storytelling tool. Right. You could have just admitted to sucking up, but that also was a lovely story. I hope the emails never come out. Better Call Saul for the people who don't know was this prequel to Breaking Bad, and your character, Kim Wexler, is not in Breaking Bad. So like every other fan of Better Call Saul, I was terrified every episode that you were going to get killed, right? And I was, well that was the question. Because I wondered, was it like on the sopranos, were like every actor famously would open the script that week, wondering if like that was their number could come up? Yeah, exactly. I mean, I'm thinking the Game of Thrones people had it even worse. Yeah sure. Yeah, you will be patched my good friend Patrick Fabian and I would just, the first couple of seasons I would say we would get our scripts and just call each other, flipping through and just go, I'm not dead. I'm not dead. And he didn't tell me that he knew he was going to die in that last season. I got surprised reading the script and we all, Bob and Patrick and I lived together for most of the seasons of shooting and I ran upstairs. I was like, I can't believe you kept us from me. And you did, and you even kept it from his wife who watched it. Really? What, what, what, what? I should pause and explain that Patrick Fabian played a character, a lawyer who again, like your character, is not in breaking bad. Yeah. So thus the same speculation. And in his case, boy did he get whacked. Wow. Yeah. And saying that the actor did not, Patrick Fabian did not even tell his wife. So he's like sitting at home and the episode just dropped and he's like, well, honey. Well, he, he's a wonderful father to, at that time, much younger girls and, and a great husband. So he would fly back and forth a lot for any episodes he's not in. And he wasn't in all of them. So it wasn't unusual for her to see him come home, you know, for a couple of episodes. But she didn't realize that he was, that he was shot and killed. This isn't my situation or it doesn't sound like kids, but I can't imagine being in a marriage where you're like, how does she react when she's just like that? Just watching to see if there's like an unconscious grin. They just say, did you just giggle? Yeah, a little, a little part of like forced measure. That's it. We have to talk about pleurbous, which I love and I'm just so excited and every episode comes. One of the things. Thank you. I hear Paula won't watch it. Yeah. I'd say it's not that I won't watch it. I, listen, I love Ray C. Horn to death and I would watch anything you were in. I would watch like a, like a, a, a, a cleaning product commercial with you. But I don't know how to do streaming or any kind of paid television. So I watched, I watched Better Call Saul so many times that I know so much more about it than what any of you are saying. I watched it because I watched it on DVD. So if it doesn't, if it doesn't come out on DVD or there's not like a puppet show version of it, I don't. I'm, I'm gonna buy you an Apple TV and then paint it to look like a VCR. Oh, it could also come out on VHS. Ray, because I have a V, I still have a VCR. I was just with Vince this morning doing an interview. I've been told him I was coming on. He says, hi, he also loves this show. And literally said, Paula, he's gonna find out if there's a way for us to make VHS tapes of the show. Oh, thank you. In addition to being a huge fan of yours, I respect you immensely because you spent a lot of times in the trenches in theater and doing what work you could. And I wondered if you knew at this juncture what your first listed credit on IMDB.com is. What does IMDB say? IMDB says your first credit as a professional actor was playing the tutorial sorceress in the Magic the Gathering video game. That was a very early job. Yes. Yes. And so in the original game, in the original like it was, it was software that you, of the game, of the card game. And, um, but it came with a tutorial. And on the back of the box, but it would, it would be like a teeny tiny window on your screen would be the tutorial about how to navigate through the game. And me and an actually, Reggie, we were playing Sorcerer and Sorceress. And it was so low budget that they didn't have shoes, but they wanted us to look like we were wearing kind of gladiator, Sorcerer boots or whatever. So we're just wearing tube socks with, um, with electrical tape in Chris Cross fashion. Wow. Yes. So, if you look carefully at gladiator, that's what Russell Crowe wore. You're sure. So yes, you, you and this other actor, because, you know, what in Quichot business, you do this, you constantly, you're talking to the camera and telling it in sort of magical deep voices. And this is how you do this. And then you do that. You know, you do that. It's very entertaining. It's on YouTube. You can watch the whole thing as I did. If you are a race, see horn, complete us. It's out there for you. And if you ever have ever actually played the Magic the Gathering video game, I was so excited that my photo was on the back that I went to Best Buy. And I didn't, I couldn't afford whatever the game was back then. It was like $45 or something. And, um, I showed them the picture on the back. And I was like, this is me. Oh my god. I did that. Could you, would you give me a copy? And now I wish, I bet they wish they had. Yeah. I'm just imagining all these aging nerds who bought that video game watching your show and going, do I know her? Well, racey horned is such a joy to talk to you. And we have, in fact, asked you here to play a game. We are calling it this time. It's Christmas, Carol. So as everybody on Earth in Pluribus knows, your character's name is Carol. So we thought, given the season, we'd ask you about Christmas carols. Answer two or three questions. You won our prize. One of our listeners, the voice of anyone, they might choose giving holiday greetings on their voiceman. So Bill, who is racey horn playing for? Alex Johnson of Seattle, Washington. All right. First question. Just this year, a famous person tried to put their own trademark on a new Christmas carol. Was it a Tyra Banks song, Santa Smys, B-Dwayne, the Rock Johnson's, can you smell what Santa is cooking? Or C, Rick Astley's, I'm never going to give you gifts. Okay, I'm going with A. You're going to with A Tyra Banks song, Santa Smys, Your Right. Wow. Name by the Washington Post is one of the five worst Christmas carols of the year. So, all right, that was very good. An instinctual and very good. All right. Next question. In 1953, a child singer named Gala Peevy recorded and released a song called, I Want a Hipopotamus for Christmas. Big hit. What was the result? A, the response to the song was so negative, so you eventually became a nun and took a vow of silence. B, stuffed hippos were going in the black market for $5,000 in today's money. Or C, somebody actually gave her a hippo. I think C. You're right. It was C. Yes. It was a huge hit. She sang it in the Ed Sullivan show and somebody gave her a hippo and she eventually donated said, hippo to the Oklahoma City Zoo. Okay. You're being perfect at this as you have been in all things. Here's your last question. John Denver put out a Christmas album once, Rocky Mountain Christmas, which included which of these less than merry Christmas songs. A, please daddy, don't get drunk this Christmas. B, my gift for you is my love, parentheses, because that's all I can afford. Or C, poisoned by the mistletoe. Wow. With A. You're gonna with A. Again, please daddy, don't get drunk this Christmas. You're right again. Very impressive. Yeah. Yeah, that was one of the songs we were going to play you a sample of the song, please daddy, don't get drunk this Christmas, but it is ridiculously sad. It's good. I love that song. Do you really? We found it really difficult. Daddy don't get drunk this Christmas. You don't like that. Wow. That was very impressive. I totally think people that are caroling should add that John Denver song. Yeah, I think it'll bring some issues to the forefront. I think it's good. I think honesty is what we need. Bill, how did Ray Seahorn do in our quiz? She was perfect. She got him all right. Ray Seahorn is nominated for a Golden Globe for her performance in Pluribus. I am betting the first of many such nominees. If you're streaming on Apple TV now, it's amazing. Don't read a word about it. Watch it. Ray Seahorn, thank you so much for being with us on Weight Weight Don't Tell Me. We're such big fans. Thank you guys. This is a dream come true. Thank you. It was for the show. It's such a wonderful show. Take care, bye. Love you, bye. It just a minute, Bill, takes it all off for the holidays and our listener, Lumeric Challenge called One Triple Late Weight, Weight to Join us in the Air. We'll be back in a minute with more of Weight Weight Don't Tell Me from NPR. From NPR and WDB Easy Chicago, this is Weight Weight Don't Tell Me, the NPR news quiz. I'm Bill Curtis, where you're playing this week with Josh Gondelman, Harry Conde-Bolo, and Paula Poundstone. And here we go to your host at these two de-baker theater in Chicago, Illinois, Peter Seigal. Thank you, Bill. In just a minute, coming down through the chimney is Good ol' St. Lumeric. If you'd like to play, even after I said that, give us a call of One Triple Late Weight, that's 1-888-924-892-4. I write now a panel some more questions for you from the week's news. Josh, the New York Times published a helpful guide for getting along with your in-laws while you're visit during the holidays and they say if nothing else works, they finally suggest that after dinner you should just do what? Put on the TV. No? Okay, well, they have a different strategy than I do. Can I have a hint? Yes, you can. Just say you just can't function without your nightly 14 hours of sleep. Oh, just just retired to bed early. Just go to bed. Have you? That's right. Have you already made fun of all your partners, baby pictures, and reached the point we're saying more about the weather would just be weird. Just go to bed. It's a great way to make sure you never have to say, oh yeah, your grandpa, Del, great stories. You always know everybody's race. So that's what the whites are doing. Yeah, exactly. All right, I get it now. One woman says she sets up her early bed time to avoid having to talk to anybody anymore by telling everyone she's a quote early bird, but be careful if you're married into a fitness family that can backfire. Great, we'll see you for the 5 a.m. run. The sleep thing is good, but it gets a little dangerous because after a while you start applying it to every part of your life, not wanting to deal with life on a day-to-day level, so you just constantly keep napping and eventually you just hope you don't wake up. Jeez, that reminds me of the John Dentford show. Yeah, boy, that is harsh. My in-laws are lovely, but they're also very sleepy. So I'm always, I feel like I'm, or they're trying to avoid me. Yeah, I'm realizing in real time that's what's going on. I saw that like switch click for me. Yeah, you go, you go, you go, you go, visit your in-laws and your mother-in-law's like, well, guess I need to go to bed and you're like, mama, we just had lunch. I'm onto you, Susan. We're having coffee at 5 p.m. next time I visit. Yeah, to play at that game. Hari, a single sick of managing their online profiles are letting who step in to help? Jesus Christ. Sort of like, is my co-pilot, you know? Yeah. They're parents. Yes, indeed, they're parents. Wow. These are, apparently, they're moms. According to the Wall Street Journal, burned out singles are not letting their moms swipe on the dating apps for them. These moms are known as MILF's, moms, I'd let flirt for me. Honestly, this is probably a great idea. Moms know best until it comes to knowing what emojis not to use in the chat. Your mom's like, well, it doesn't peach, just mean you're a peach of a person. What does peach mean? Can it not be explained on Josh's whispering? It's a bad power. And yet they're so healthy. Wait a second. So the whole thing is that parents are helping to pick potential partners for their children. Wow, what an original idea. I should tell my mom and dad about this idea. Yeah. You think they'll be surprised? They met on their wedding day. You did? Oh, wow. Are they still together? Surprisingly, yes. Wow. I thought the big jeans were retro. We've come all the way back around to your arranged marriage. I guess it's fine to do this, but your parents should disclose who they are when you match. Otherwise, you run the risk of your mom winning the heart of a man for you, but it's actually his mom too, right? And they're both like, wait, you like white wine and novels about Cape Cod 2? Coming up, it's lightning film The Blank, but first it's the game where you have to listen for the rhyme. If you'd like to play on air, call it, leave a message at 1-888-8-8-8-8-924. You can see us most weeks here at the Studebaker Theatre in Chicago, where you can catch us on the road. We will be in Bloomington, Indiana on February 26th. Yes, the campus of the University thereof, Indiana, for tickets and information to all our live events, go to nprpresent.org. Higher on weight weight, don't tell me. Hi, this is Cynthia calling from Los Angeles, California. How are things in L.A.? Oh, it's really, really warm. Oh, tell with you. Sorry, that was reflexive. It's been cold this week in Chicago, and what do you do there? I am a project manager for a fashion company called Rails. Rails? I have one of your company shirts. Great work. Really? Yeah, but is it like modern renditions of like old train conductor outfits? Because that's what I would want. Is that what you think I dress like? Well, you do have that nifty wesket with your pocket watch, I assume. Well, Cynthia, welcome to the show. Bill Curtis is going to read for you three news-related lemmares with a last word of phrase missing from each. If you can fill in that last word of phrase correctly in two of the lemmares, you'll be a winner. You ready to play? Yeah, let's go. Let's go. Here's your first lemmares. Our stockings were hung with much care, but our tree remained stark with no flair. This year, there's no fights about tinsel or lights. Does this year, our tree will stay? Bear? Yes, bear it news. Have not gotten around to decorating your Christmas tree this year, you're not lazy, you are on trend. Celebrities and influencers are swearing by their, quote, naked trees. That's when you decorate your tree with nothing at all. That's that chic, straight from the Menards parking lot look. So it's just a tree in your house? Yes. So instead of you bringing a Christmas tree either standard, every green, right? Yeah. Instead of like covering it with tinsel and ornaments and all that stuff, you either leave it completely bare or just a single maybe two strands of white lights. That's the idea. I probably should have done that this year. I'm not having a tree this year because I have kittens. Right. And I just... All I, you've had kittens for as long as I've known you. Sometimes in double digits. Yeah. But you know, there... So I don't want to be mad at them all the time, right? And it's natural for them to want to play in the tree. Right. And so I just thought, you know, maybe I'll just skip you. You've had it. You've had enough kittens so you could put glitter on them, invite them to jump into the tree and boom, decorate it. Yeah. All right, Cynthia, here is your next lemuric. Scaly reptiles caught a fair shake. Because Zootopia gave them a break. Now, everyone's hyper for venomous vipers. Young kids want a poisonous... Well, snake, yes. If you're not familiar with it, Zootopia 2 is an animated erotic thriller about a rabbit and their hot fox boyfriend. And there's also this friendly snake, sort of a blacklist third wheel. In China, though, inspired by this movie, fans have been buying venomous Indonesian pitvipers to keep as pets. It's terrible people. Adopt, don't shop. I enjoyed snagglepush and I didn't get a saber tooth tiger. It was kind of a lisp. This happens all the time, though, right? Like, whenever there's a new 101 Dalmatians movie, yeah, kids are clamoring for Dalmatians. And when Shrek came out, I was like, I just got to have a donkey. And an ogre. Yeah, it's about to say I went for the ogre. To keep the donkey company, exactly. All right, here is your last lemuric. Music once had a bright spark. Think of Saturday's spent in the park. But basses grew boomy and lyrics got gloomy. Now pop songs are stressed out and... Dark? Dark. Yes, a new study of American pop music has found that over the past 50 years, the lyrics of pop songs have become progressively more stressed out and gloomy. Personally, I think this underestimates how stressful it was, realizing that nobody, not one person alive, knew who put the bump and the bump to bump to bump. Nor who let the dogs out. True. A lot of unanswered questions. Cold cases, if you will. An analysis of lyrics of over 250,000 hit songs, a release between 1973 and 2023, found that over that span, the presence of words related to stress, anxiety, and pressure increased by 81 percent. Because before 1973, I'm sure some of you remember, a hundred percent of song lyrics were about riding a bicycle with your sweetie. Bill, how did Cynthia do in our quiz? Cynthia was so perfect she got three in a row. Congratulations, Cynthia. Congratulations. You're good. You're good. And thank you for Josh's always fashionable look. Thank you. And I happen, I'm just guessing here that Josh would not mind to gig as a catalog model. That's what you're looking for one. Yeah. Okay, mind. Keep that in mind. Okay, thank you so much. Thank you. Bye bye. For that patronizing. I will keep that in mind. Ha ha ha. Now onto our final game, Lightning Fill in the blank. Each of our players will have 60 seconds in which to answer as many fill in the blank questions as they can. Each correct answer is worth two points. Bill, can you give us the scores? Josh and Hari, each rocking up three, a piece. And Paula, one. Oh my goodness. Huh. Anyone's game? Okay, Paula, that means you are in second place. So I am going to start with you. The clock will start when they begin your first question, fill in the blank. During a prime time address on Wednesday, blank again, blamed Joe Biden for inflation. Trump. Right, on Monday, forwarded announced it was dramatically scaling back its production of blanks. Cars. What kind of cars? Pintos. No. It's about time, but they finally give up no EVs. EVs. Electrophysical. This week, the White House added 20 new countries to the list of those with blank restrictions into the US. Immigration. Right, travel according to the CDC. The blank outbreaks in Utah and South Carolina are getting worse. Measles. Right. This week, a woman sued the IRS, claiming that she should be able to claim blank as her dependent. Trump. No, her dog. On Tuesday, the president's son blank got engaged to a Palm Beach socialite. Don Jr. Right. On Thursday, the jackpot for the blank rose above $1.5 billion. For the lottery. Yeah, the power ball. This week, a man sued a casino in Las Vegas after he woke up the morning after a night out there and found himself blank. Oh, morning after a night out there, and found himself, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, on the roof. He was on the roof. No, he found himself in jail and in debt to the casino for $75,000. Wow. And he wasn't able to remember how either of those things happened. The 64-year-old man says he was incapacitated the evening before and that the signatures on several casino markers only loosely resemble his own. He says the casino should not have allowed him to continue gambling while he was drunk, which is absolutely reasonable because when I walk into a casino, my first thought is always finally a place with a strong moral compass. All right, Bill, how did Paul do in our quiz? Six more? Five right. She has a total of 11 in the lead. All right. Well, Harian, Josh, or Ty, so I'm just going to choose Hari to go next. Fill in the blank, Hari, here we go. On Wednesday, the Academy Awards announced they were moving from ABC to streaming live on blank in 2029. You too. Right. This week, the White House announced that most members of the blank would receive checks before Christmas. Of the working class. No, the military on Wednesday, at least four people were killed in the latest US blank strike. Uh, bombing of Venezuela? No, I'll give it to you, the bombing of their boats. After discovering he did not win the Heisman Trophy Vanderbilt quarterback Diego Pavia, displayed true sportsmanship and blanked. Did a crotch chop? No, he cussed out the Heisman voters on Twitter. This week, a mega-church in Houston is apologizing after a woman was injured by blank during their Christmas spectacular pageant. Flying raccoon. No, she was injured by a camel kicking her in the head. Oh, no. The camel was being led onto stage through the audience when it kicked out a knocked woman right in the head. The church is apologized and as a gift is giving the woman front row seats to see the rock cats. Oh, no. Bill, how did Harry do it, our quiz? To write for more points, total of seven, however, leaves Paula in the lead. How many then does Josh? How many then does Josh need to win? Quarter-time five to win. Here we go, Josh. This is for the game. On Tuesday, a new federal law required the Justice Department to release more of their files on blank. I'm Jeffrey Epsi. Right. Claiming a documentary they produced had defamed him, Donald Trump sued the blank for $10 billion. The BBC? Right. This week, the House narrowly passed a package aimed at lowering blank costs. Medical? Yeah, medical, right? Healthcare costs. This week, President Trump signed an executive order classifying blank as a Schedule 3 narcotic. I'm marijuana. Right. This week, a woman in the UK was arrested for trying to rob a city bus using blank. A banana. No, the frozen leg of lamb. She had just shoplifted it. According to a new study, eating blank might lower your dementia risk. Crossword puzzles. Eating crossword puzzles? Oh, God, I've been doing them wrong. Cheese on Monday, Marion Webster announced that their word of the year was blank. Slop? Right. After a dance instructor in China fainted while teaching a class this week, her students blanked. Um, her students also made it as if they were fainted? Yes, they all fainted in perfect sync because they thought it was part of the dance. Wow. This video is incredible. Of the whole class is swinging their head rhythmically along with the instructor, and then she stumbles and falls to the ground, so the whole class does that too. Oh, my God. It's amazing to see their great students. It's even more amazing when they somehow coordinate 10 different EMTs to take them all to the hospital at the same time. I think Josh did well. Did he do well in the field? Oh, he got six right. 12 more points, and his 15 gives him the win. Congratulations, Josh Lotteman. There it is. Congrats. Thank you. Coming up, our panelist predict what will be the big Christmas present this year around that tree. But first, let me tell you that, wait, wait, don't tell me is a production of NPR and WB Easy. 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Harry Cundabalu, Barbie's dream house now with unnecessary ballroom. Ooh! Woo! Woo! Woo! Good, that's good. And Paula Pouncedown. Hot chocolate with mushrooms, a party in a cup. And depending on that happens, pedal, we'll ask you about it on weight. Wait, don't tell me. Thank you so much, Bill Curtis. Thanks also to Harry Cundabalu, Paula Pouncedown. Josh Gondelman, thanks for finding us out here today and joining us. It's going to make a theater. You appreciate your warmth. Thank you all for listening wherever you may be. I'm Peter Sagan, we'll see you next week. This is NPR. Support for NPR and the following message come from the William and Flora Hullitt Foundation.