The Architecture of Dominion (authority, altars, & supervision) w/Dr. Francis Myles - 087

He said, I would rather my son dies prematurely in the hands of God than to live long in the hands of devils. Dominion comes when you know demons are afraid of you. That's when the game changes. So if God only wanted a family, but did not want that family to have sovereignty, there would be no need for earth. He could have made us like the angels, having power, but not dominion. What God does in his genius is that he leaves power in the world of spirit. Because there has to be a reason for man who has authority on earth to want to tread We need an interface A place where we can agree on terms by which power and authority will be shared And God calls that an author He said, how can I be God? Intellectually, I know I'm God But how am I your God if I've never supervised? The dominion mandate was that man was not included in the items you can dominate If you look at life, you're going to find that authors are everywhere You just never saw them as such Even in technology What gospel can God want from me In exchange for power Oh yeah He wants authority But authority over what? Your life Jesus really became a man What is the fasting for? Power Jesus comes down And the Holy Spirit says Right as it's written in the records And he returned with power Which means he didn't have it going up Alright hey real quick Before we get into this I know we say this all the time is actually legitimately, I promise you, like one of probably the deepest episodes we've had. We get into dreams, power structures, identities, names, authors. We cover a lot. And it's also a long episode. So what I would do is I would use the timestamps below. And the whole thing is it builds cumulatively one on top of the other. we have a really good section in the middle that specifically addresses how you get power in the kingdom and how that works and we have another section that's about dreams so each of these sections could be a book legit it could be like a book so it might be one of those that you want to you might want to pause and re-watch I wish that we could do that in the live shoot but we can't but enjoy this one it is a master class we went into some theological discussions and it's all backed by scripture dr francis miles his brand new book the way of the altar is out you should check it out it's a phenomenal read and uh let us know if you have any questions everyone wants to get to the high places but if you want to go high you first have to go deep what's up welcome back to the deep end how are you i'm doing uh like truly amazing truly amazing stoked for today i'm very very stoked we have one of our favorites dr francis miles back in town we've blown our minds we're ready to go even deeper. We want to go so deep that we pass out. Yes, that's right. Let's do that. Or even better, Taylor finally cries on camera. I would take that too. I would take that too. When you were here last time and we were having dinner and you were like, let's pray afterwards and you grabbed the hands and we all held hands and you started praying. Do you remember what you prayed? I prayed so many things. You helped me a little during mine. You were like, something around the effect of teachers when Peter was so committed to you, he was like, crucify me upside down. Yes. Like, give us the ability and the courage to live for you like Peter did. Yes. And you're like praying for dinner. And I was like, I'm crying. Do you remember how deep that got still, man? Yeah. Man. Okay, let me tell people who you are for a second, and then we're going to get right into it. Where do you live, by the way? Is it? I'm living in Fayetteville, Georgia. Gotcha. That's right by Atlanta, right? Yes. Nice. It's really becoming a mini Hollywood. A lot of movies are coming out of there. Tyler Perry is in there. Every time you're there, you see tracks. They're doing a lot of stuff there. Nice. Gotcha. Okay. Dr. Francis Miles is known as a revelator. He's gifted to unpack the word behind the word in a way that radically changes lives. You're an international speaker, best-selling author, apostolic voice, known for your teaching on the kingdom of God, spiritual authority, the Order of Melchizedek, and you're the founder of the Order of Melchizedek Supernatural School of Ministry, which has trained thousands of leaders across the world. You have ministry operations overseas in America. That's right. I don't know how many books you've written. I have three or four of them. Past 12. I'm past 12, going to 15. 12, going to 15. I'm curious what your first spiritual experience was. How did you... The story is fascinating to me of how people become who they become. Yes. But I'm assuming that there was an encounter you had at some point with God or maybe with something in the spiritual world. What was that and what was it like? Yes, prior to my first radical encounter with Jesus, I went through hell where I was exposed to the supernatural only on the demonic side. I was living in this township. Really, you could call it a shanty town. This is my origins. You know, I'm not supposed to be doing what I'm doing now around the world. Every time I look at what I'm doing, I say, Lord, who am I in my father's house? This has happened. Because my story shouldn't be. But I lived in a township in abjil poverty. After my father lost everything. But this town Seemed to be like All the witches in Africa decided to live in one town Can you imagine? That's how it was I would So as a Roman Catholic Because my father was a Catholic So in the Catholic you're not exposed to the supernatural You know you're superstitious about it But it's And even the little supernatural you know Is more Oh the devil is so terrible So what I'm going through just emphasizes that ethos So I would be sleeping And then 3, 2 in the morning You hear Then somebody jumps Literally like Imagine if Navy Seals jumped on the roof of your house Literally physically And the whole house shakes And it's witches coming To give you another tormenting night Wow And I had no idea I was a seer And that's It's the most traumatic thing to be a seer By gifting Before you know Jesus because the gift is there, but how to connect the dots is not there. It's terrifying. So other people sleep and they go, dog, I sleep, I see everything. You're talking about seeing the things in the spirit realm. Literally everything. And this, actually, you know, this happened when I was 10 years old. We moved into a neighborhood. You know, that's when I realized, but later I would know it was the gift of a seer. But I'm 10 and we moved to this big new place My father at that time was doing That's before he lost everything And we fell into abject poverty So we are doing great So I'm 10, we moved to a big house We are moving the truck The trucks are moving in with all our free property And the next door neighbor, she comes To welcome us, she could not be better She comes an hour later With a tray of food We are like wow We hit the jackpot neighbor We are so blessed My mother said Can you imagine What a place we started eating So that's great I mean I ate like whatever That night I'm going to go to sleep Remember I'm 10 That's when Then all of a sudden I hear Bzzzz Bzzzz It's growing louder It's the sound of a bee But I'm close But I can see everything I said what is this I'm close I'll do this But I still see I'm like what's this I've closed my eyes why am I seeing everything it was a gift of this year took over every time I go to sleep and right through the wall this big bee comes through the wall the wall opens up a pot of my first pot I'm like whoa got a big bee it's our next door never what? the woman that brought us with the food I'm like oh my gosh she's a witch how do I tell mom? And then You know She's just walking around I am petrified Like I don't want to breathe So You know So I woke up in the morning I said ma'am your neighbor is the witch Oh Francis stop you can't say that she's so nice To you know one week later She went to the shop And one of the people told her I said hey we know you just moved in Please don't do anything with the woman next door She is a terrible witch In this area He says my son told me that So fast forward It is just months before I'm about to meet Jesus Which will make sense me saying this Because of the encounter of the Lord Because it was my first Encounter that was different So I would live through that Kind of oppression So the growth and The fear of a witchcraft Rose mightily because it seemed like everybody was hopeless against it. Then I got sick because of the attacks. I developed a very strange sickness, a withering away sickness where I was getting thinner and then boils began to appear on my face and my body. And so because I was just about 17, I was getting thinner and thinner. So my uncle, I'm living with an uncle, says, hey, sit down here. We need to go and see the doctor. Something is happening with you. Do you have AIDS? I said, I'm a virgin. I can have. No, no, no. This looks like AIDS. You are wearing down. You've got boils. So we went to the hospital and every hospital doctor would take my blood. Three, four doctors, different hospitals. They're like, we don't understand. Why? He looks bad. So we can give him something for the boils, but medically we can't give him anything else. What do you mean? He says, because we can find nothing in his blood, any sickness, and yet we can't explain why he's shrinking, why he's getting thin, whatever. Oh, they lost a little. Wow. So it was during this time that one of my uncles, a different uncle, came to me and says, okay, you guys, you have tried the hospitals, we are Africans, I'm taking this boy to a witch doctor. So I end up in this crazy house, my God, of this witch doctor surrounded by the biggest witch. The witch thought himself was the biggest witch But hey, he claimed to be a doctor And when you are young And they think you are about to die Nobody wants you to die on them They say you got to go to Africans We have a culture of honor When your father's uncle speak You pretty much are going to go that way So they took me to this House of this witch doctor You know And he did all kind of things But during that time My father was living in the village because we had lost everything so he had to leave town and go to the village. So there was no cell phones. We couldn't communicate. But why is it a village? I can look back now. It's like he said something told him. Now I know it's the Holy Spirit. He said he just told my mother, I don't know but I feel like I need to go to town and check up on my son. So he got on the bus. And when he got on the bus, it was like seven hours to get to me. He finally got to me. When he forgot to me He went to the house Where I was staying with his uncle And he said where is my son So we took him to the witch doctor Oh man he blew up He says my son at the witch doctor Are you kidding me And my father was He came straight He didn't care He started calling my name Get out of there Francis I heard him and I was actually ready To get out of there Because the stuff that will happen Was becoming more weird by the moment Like what? You know You know This is The witch doctor says Hey guys Tomorrow we are all going to the graveyard I said I have a new protocol for you guys I said graveyard And I'm thinking My God Graveyard? What remedy is that? He says Oh no no no no You got devils But the grave will take the devils from you So everybody will sleep on a grave But I'll take you in the grave So my father arrived the day before we had to go You know And you know what's amazing I found out later all the people that went Died within one year all of them I was in that number and I was going to go I was a captive you know When you don't know Jesus you are that blind And you are that desperate And your family that believes in that stuff Is saying you got to do it I was headed to sit on I was headed to go and sleep at night on a grave so that demons can come and go to the grave and I come out healed it's a bunch of, that's why I believe in the supernatural, because I know what people can do when they are desperate for a miracle I was and I had no knowledge of God so my father arrives the day before we go to we were supposed to be making this excursion to the grave yeah he arrives and I just said it was process I didn't care about my father Because he dealt with Before he lost his money Which he got it back later But He was very always bored He said Francis get out of there I heard my I know that voice that's my dad I stood up because I was not excited About going to the grave I stood up Got out of there And he was him he said get out of here This is the house of the devil He took me out And then I'll never forget what he said He rebuked his young brother Who took me there He said how dare you do this He said I would rather my son Die prematurely in the hands of God Than to live long in the hands of devils That stuck with me Get out of here God will find a way out of this for you It was really prophetic He was not born again himself at the time He became born again after me And one month later I was in an assembly of God church Because of an obnoxious evangelist In high school Who got delivered from He used to be on drugs Weed Whatever He was a big problem in school And one day he made Jesus I had never ever been born again He got radically born again Changed, no drinking, no smoking Became the ideal student In the whole school First I thought we thought Man this is some new weed He must be smoking Because this changed But then it stuck But then he started traveling the Bible But then he began to chase me around Everywhere I would go He would even find me One time he found me in the restroom I turned around and he said Francis What am I going to give you I have to see that I said brother this is too much This is weird This is a restroom brother He said well God's given me your name So I said, what is this going to take for you to leave me alone? And she said, hmm. He looked at me. He said, well, you look sick to me. It boils all over your face. You're shrinking. You look like a person who's going to die. He said it like that. And he says, and you're not saved. He said, okay, here's the deal. I come to my church only one Sunday because we pray for the sick. We cast out devils And you might just encounter Jesus Only once If none of those three happens You'll never see me again I will not chase you around through I said sure He said yes But I'm a Catholic He said to me He was aware of wisdom God gave him He looked at me and said Francis what good to the world is a dead Catholic Come to my church get healed and go back to being a good Catholic at least you are alive. Because we all know you are dying. It's great logic actually. Wow. It hit me like, whoa, that's something. Makes a lot of sense. And he said, it's a good deal for you. One Sunday, everything one Sunday. And if that nothing happens, you'll never see me chase you around school again. I said, okay. And we should connect. It's a deal. And I found one Sunday and I went to the Assemblies of God. Terrified. Never been to any church that's not Catholic I am horrified Thinking what is going to be Oh people don't understand how some people Have never been to church for the first time And I went and I sat at the back Made sure I was very close to the door In case things went weird I wanted to bolt out of there That's lightning So I sat There was about 500 people And I sat at the end The door was out there I made sure I'm going to get out of here But I wanted to make sure I get points for coming From the obnoxious evangelism So he was looking when he saw me I stood up, I did this He said, oh he did this He never looked at me again He got in the worship when he started I don't know what happened But something shifted in that atmosphere And I forgot I was just up there to take my ticket You know, the worship was incredible Then this thing called the anointing And I didn't know it was the anointing But something felt different no service I'd ever felt like this man I felt alive I could feel the thing I forgot about my boy I was always conscious of that the man of God came oh boy he was like a mini Jimmy Swaggart man he was just quite a preacher I'm captivated when he called the altar call I'm told I ran I have no memory of how I got to the altar they said you beat everybody it's like you are running for food and you haven't eaten for 100 days I ran, I got to the altar, I gave my life to the Lord And I looked behind me, there are brushes of angels He came crying, he hugged me, he says I told you You know, I said yeah But I was not healed, but I would be Because one month after I got born again That was my first spiritual encounter with Christ With Jesus So I am living in the same township And I go to bed I think it was just past midnight You know This Man, huge Ball of light just goes Through the wall It brightens the place You know, I think If I was physically Awake What happened to poetry would have been blinding But I was asleep But it just came through And then That This So this white light came in And it came towards me Went through my legs I can see it coming I couldn't do anything but look I went Went all the way To the top of my head And I'm covered with this glow of light In and out like A hollow And then It was my spirit my spirit becomes unzipped like my body literally is what when I realize that the body is luggage that's why I tell people it's crazy to fight it's crazy to fight over the color of your skin you're fighting over luggage people go to the baggage claim because of the content in the luggage and that day I could see My lifeless body On the ground And I'm standing And for the first time I met myself as a spirit being My body looked like me You know And All of a sudden This white light pulls me And my spirit just goes My spirit goes Through the first door It opens up by itself The second door opens up by itself And then I'm pulled Onto the roof of the little house Where we are living And when I stand on the roof Right in front of me I meet a demonic prince This very evil Demonic presence And what's amazing is that In the spirit world There is no Knowledge doesn't travel There's just a knowing As soon as I saw that spirit I knew exactly That it was the strong man's spirit Behind my disease And it hated me And it wanted me dead I mean the level of hatred That was coming From that being Was incredible People have no idea How The devil hates Even the people that save him That look that I made in the image of God The hatred for people For human beings is incredible I was like whoa This is but I didn't I was well with intensity But there was no fear You know the spirit man Has no fear when they're born against me That's zero fear actually You know but I'm like whoa This thing hates me He wants me to die Then as we're looking at each other The heavens open up You know like how The Cowboy Stadium These big stadiums that have got The thing where you can open up And you can close the stadium It was like opening up that Or that Door that allows The light to come in the stadium You know it just opens up So I'm looking up This demon being is looking up And it's then I mean, brilliant light Lighter than 10,000 suns It's coming through And I'm thinking, oh my God The whole neighborhood is going to wake up Because it was so much light I could see a little pain in the next door neighbor So I'm thinking, my God Everybody's coming out of This is a lot of light In our shantytown This is the most light we've ever had People are coming out I am really feeling because it's that intense And then, as we look up The hand of Jesus starts to come in the middle It's a golden Majestic Hand I mean it just exudes Redemption, forgiveness Power, grace Glory, majesty You name it It's coming down And I see a big nail imprint over there And it comes down after here And it holds in the air And then A door opens up Here, here, a door And the scroll Falls out of the door That opens up in the middle of his hand And then an audible voice speaks to me Son, take my word That's where my reverence For the word came from The reverence I have today For the word came from that encounter I saw the authority Of the word Says son Take my word and that stroke comes down I try to reach for it when I touch it, it goes into me and comes alive as John 3, 16 remember I am just three weeks or less than one month born again Catholics, at least my Catholic we never read the Bible, the priest did it so I don't know if I ever read the Bible but I did know John 3, 16 For God so loved the world But you don't think that's a scripture for warfare Lest alone in front of a demonic prince That hates you But that scripture came alive And I found myself reaching out for the demonic being Which starts to tussle But then when I quoted the scripture It said for God so loved the world That he gave his only begotten son That whoever believes in him Should not perish but have everlasting life And I said, but you don't believe I said it like that When I quoted the scripture There was a lightning from one End of the heavens to the next And then like What to be only described As a thousand thunders In one moment A thousand thunders I mean I'm like I thought it was like, forget about 10, 20 There is a volcano On no scale can measure And that was John 3.16 And that demonic being fell At the time Fell And in fear Remember it was hatred I could smell the hatred the whole time It's the first time I smelled fear This demonic presence Was so afraid Of me Okay Not just God The fear was me And I realized Whoa He's afraid of me Because of what one scripture has done What about if I read more That's where this thing came from And then later I found the scripture That God said the dread of you Will be upon every beast The dread of you Forget the fear of the Lord We know it's there But the dread of you See dominion doesn't come from knowing demons are afraid of God. Dominion comes when you know demons are afraid of you. That's when the game changes. So, I could smell that. And then the thing turned and it flew free from me. It left. And then, as soon as that happened, the Lord never spoke to me again. But His hand was suspended with all that light. And then He began to pull it back. As He pulled it back, it was like everything was happening in reverse. As the light was growing, I was being pushed back in my body. when the light disappeared when the last ounce of light disappeared I was back in my body and I snapped I woke up from my body I woke up I turned on the light and then I had the shock of my life all the boils on my body they are gone they were big they were gone I wept I knew okay thank you lord that's been that was my first supernatural experience that's amazing there's so many details on that that i'm just like i'm it's like man i wish oh my gosh you're like you saw a bee go through your house and then the bee was massive and it turned into a witch and then like i think one of the more interesting what i was going to say before we started i was going to say for the show is that one of the things that people found interesting about you from the last episode is that you're a theologian by degree correct you're a theologian by degree and so some of these things that have probably been difficult to accept and it's interesting that you even have the gift of sight before you even knew jesus you knew what demons were before you knew jesus yes which is it it just brings so much more color to the story in terms of like breaking our normal worldview of everything we think that we have to have understanding of Jesus before we know what a demon looks like. But the only question I have with that is I understand 100% what you're saying with what you experienced. I think a lot of people are like, they're like, well how did you know it wasn't you were having a real experience with your spirit versus a dream? I can see a lot of people asking that question. Well, a real experience with yourself will not explain the boils. It was Jesus in every way and because of But several encounters with him after that. You know when people say I've seen the Lord. Yeah. So. And every encounter from God. That's real from God. Creates fruit that cannot be explained any other way. You see pseudo. There are pseudo manifestations of things. But they are pseudo because they have lasting. They don't have lasting effect. When God changes a man. A thing is changed. So this is the thing. The permanency, divine permanency to me is one of the things I measure what God is doing by. How permanent is it? How transformational is it? I go through that. You know, you can't explain the boils. You could explain that. You could explain it. It could have been a dream. But if I didn't wake up with no boils on my face and then my uncle was like, in the morning, what happened to you? I said, God came to town. He said, whoa. Because he was the one taking me to the hospital. And the witch doctor, right? And the witch doctor. And here now, how do you explain it? Overnight. Did he get saved? He's saved now. You know, I had two, one of them is saved, one of them never got saved. But, that's awesome you want to keep going? alright so you talked a little bit about this I'm going to quote something from you from your book this is from Dangerous Prayers if you haven't read it you should read it it's a book full of dangerous prayers so that you can pray but here's the quote the genesis of God's purpose for creating the human race can be found in the first two chapters of Genesis the Genesis account underscores God's inherent motivation for creating a physical planet called Earth and creating spirit children whom he collectively called Adam. God then created physical bodies made of dirt to house these spirits so that they could become legal residents and guardians of the visible world. From the beginning, our physical world, Earth, was designed to be a spiritual colony of the kingdom of heaven. Yes. It was never designed to be a habituation of demons and every foul spirit. When we go into you talked a little bit about the law of dominion. Yes. There have been a lot of people that have actually had questions about, does God need man to do something? How do we find that scripturally? So maybe can you just take us into some teaching around everything that happens on the earth requires legal entry or partnership with a body or a person. I think that would be a brilliant unpacking. Yes. Yeah, the creation of man, you know, is one of the most powerful things that God has ever done. Because, of course, God always wanted a family. Now, the way God created man is very interesting because, you know, God, first and foremost, people must understand that God is a sovereign through and through. Because he's a king and the source of everything. Okay. And God wanted to give birth to children just like himself. And so the issue of sovereignty would have to be on the table. Because if you are sovereign then you cannot produce children that are not. So sovereignty would have to be one of the gifts you give to them if they're going to be like you. Okay. And since the two sovereigns By Cannot coexist in one sphere So that while Queen Elizabeth is alive King Charles Could only be called Prince Charles Because they are in the same territory So God knew That He wanted us to be sovereign As he is So which In that meant in that with that being the case then God had to create an atmosphere and a climate and a realm where that is possible but in the realm of spirit God is always going to be sovereign okay and so God created a physical planet which we call the telethema the earth and this is where God's Desire for children who come into manifestation. But because of the issue of wanting to make sure they are sovereign. Okay. If the issue with God was just for spirit children. There would have been no need for earth. Heaven right now. Is full of spirit children. Everyone who has ever died Is a spirit child Of God living in heaven Your grandmothers or fathers That died in the Lord They are spirit children But what they don't have in heaven They had on earth Is dominion Because of how God designed That dominion to function In the latest To our realm So if God only wanted a family But did not want to have that family Have sovereignty Then there would be no need for earth He could have made us Like the angels Okay You know Having power But not dominion Angels have power but not have dominion Because dominion is a great territory So So God wanted his children to have dominion To be just like him Like he says, let us make man in our image Image there is a reference to spirit Because God is a spirit And our likeness Let them have dominion That word dominion comes from the Hebrew word mamlaka Which literally means to be in charge This is very important It means to be in charge It means to be in control It also means to rule It also means sovereign It also means kingdom So all of these things are insinuated by one word Within the richness of the Hebrew language Let them have dominion Now, in the phrase God does It's a phrase, it is the two words Let them that change the dynamics between God and man Forever change the dynamics Let them have dominion Brings up the question Who's them Because that brings exclusivity In the dynamics of the Dominion contract Let them have dominion on earth Now the territory is now ascribed On earth let them have dominion You know and then The fish of the sea, the birds of the air And it keeps going on But thankfully the next verse Does not leave anything to chance God now describes who's them is Male and female Made he them So letting us know That dominion is gender sensitive Okay Now if it's gender sensitive And we know God has no gender If it's gender sensitive Gender is an issue that comes upon us Because of the physical body Okay So let them have dominion Means that It's the spirits That he has created housed in two distinguished bodies of dirt. One that is masculine in design. That's where gender comes from. One that is feminine in design. Okay? Because the, so it says in that, so in that construction, because gender is involved, Then we realize that dominion therefore was given to spirit housed in bodies of dirt. Okay. So, that being the case, then because now God says let them. He doesn't say let them and us have dominion. Had God included what I would call the ask clause, God would have zero need To include Actually including man in any revival By God on earth would be a preference Not a mandate Dominion made Including man in anything God does on earth a mandate Not just on God himself Because the people The Bible is called Also the law of God You know why the Bible is called the law of God Because whatever God says becomes a law To himself first before it's a law to anybody else. So dominion now becomes the law of God. It's not that he's not sovereign. It is that he has integrity. One of the holiest things in Judaism is the statement that O Israel, the Lord thy God is one. Very unique to Israel in a pantheistic culture where many gods and you come up with a nation that says we only have one. So it became a big thing in Judaism to be able to say Or the Lord that God is the Lord that one. But that word one also means he has integrity or one with himself. He never disagrees with himself at any given moment. So if he says something, he has to do what he said. So it becomes the law of God. So dominion then is the law of God. That God cannot now, so dominion now makes earth therefore, since God excludes himself from the dominion mandate. Okay Man therefore becomes the biggest player now On the planet called earth Okay And this This dominion issue Would also become the reason later on Why authors will become important In terms of Negotiating A connectivity between God and man But let's just deal with dominion for right now Okay Because God said let them and us It means that man has become a sovereign So If man has become a sovereign Just without even being spiritual Just in the realm of politics You You and I As citizens of the USA Private citizens Right now Taylor we can say Man It's cold in Tennessee let's go to Mexico let's go to Cancun get on the plane we'll be in Cancun not a problem the problem is Trump can do that Trump lost the luxury to do what you and I could do at a whim when he became a sovereign presidency makes you a sovereign and therefore sovereigns don't take vacations that are not planned and expected on the other side. You are sovereign. Because if Trump said, oh, I want to go too, he will cause an international incident that the whole world will be talking about for days. How dare he shows up in Mexico and the government doesn't know he's coming. Doesn't he know he's a sovereign? God said I made you a sovereign I can't visit you without you knowing about it Sovereigns don't do what private citizens do That means when a sovereign visits There has to be a pre-negotiation as to the terms of entry So man became a sovereign So because of that That's why God cannot do Now Trump can do business The President of America can do business in Mexico But it will be negotiated And you better believe The Mexican government will be involved And now it's executed Then one day another sovereign come In their sovereign territory Do whatever he wants to do Without any kind of partnership With the sovereign state he's in That's earth and heaven This is why God Will never heal anybody until a man says, let's go do it. God will never deliver anybody. I mean, God, I mean, you think God doesn't see the people suffering in the hospital? The pain? The tears? You mean, David says, where can I go where your presence is not there? He's there as a presence in the background, invisible, alive, aware, But unable to do anything Supernatural Unless a man Opens his mouth And says come Lord Jesus Move Holy Spirit If people understood What dominion made us How the value God Ascribed to us in dominion They will never treat themselves Like trash When you say man you mean man or woman A human If men If men or women Okay Knew The value The creator put on man On mankind By the law of dominion They will never treat themselves as trash So That's the dynamics of the law of dominion So literally You know we are responsible for what's happening on earth and that's the reality and sometimes it's difficult to chew but that's the truth makes sense I can see where we need to go into supervision, altars I can see where that leads from there that's very needed because I hear that and I'm like now if you just take that at face value you're like alright let's just do everything and God's going to do it right there and then quoted again says simply we mankind were created to rule over the world of matter on behalf of the kingdom of god our purpose on earth is intricately tied to fulfilling our prophetic assignment as official representatives of the kingdom of god anything short of fulfilling our ambasadorial assignment of manifesting the kingdom here on earth as it is in heaven is a gross violation of our purpose. Yes. Let's quote Dr. Miles Monroe, who said, wherever purpose is not known, abuse is inevitable. Yes. When you look at the state of the religious organizations today, the church being one of them, do you tie the abuse and the waywardness of the organizations to a lack of understanding of dominion and purpose Yes Or is it more complicated than that You know, it is... Actually, it has nuances of complications, but the heart of the matter is the misunderstanding of dominion. Because while, you know, Because in dominion Because some of the abuses That you are seeing in most organizations Are coming from Are coming from Not understanding That One of the most Clearly Exclusional Closes To the dominion mandate Was that God God man never Man was not included in the items You can dominate So in the dominion mandate We are not allowed to dominate each other And so And the abuses come from thinking Well I'm the leader You came to my church Whatever I say Even though what I'm saying might be weird and crazy But I'm the man of God I'm the woman of God You see so now Again it's an abuse of dominion Because that clause cannot be supported By grace not by the spirit Because it's not included in the dominion mandate And to make sure That man was not included God lists what was included Earth was included That's why I can speak to the earth Fish was included That's why even Jesus could speak to it So that could tell Peter Jesus knew As a matter of fact This lesson when Jesus made Peter Was listen guys If this is the least of things you can do If you can't get fish to come to your mate And it's in your dominion number How are you going to get men To come to you Because then you have to persuade Fish you can command You know So I think that all those abuses Really come from That Understanding that There's a thin line between Working in dominion And then working in domination you know where you strip others of conscious will you know in the name of I am this and you're just supposed to follow you know so that's where some of the abuses come from within the organization of church that's not what I was expecting but that makes more sense than what I was thinking actually that makes a lot of sense I've never thought about that before it was not included in what we are supposed to dominate that's crazy all right you got anything i'm just gonna keep trucking dude this year um good i'm here jake's very quiet today i'm i'm good i i can see where it's going so i'm letting it get there so how do alters integrate into this because you mentioned it if if what you're what you're saying is true anything that operates in the dominion or realm of earth without a human is not legal. It's not how God set it up to be. But altars seem to almost create a backdoor into that system. Yes. How is that legal? Is it legal for the spirit grace? I think you call them landing strips. How does that work? Yes. I'm also curious, are those demonic things going to be in trouble one day? Or did they sort of follow the bloop Like are they following the rules by creating altars Like how does this all work Yes So What the So what the Mamlaka creates Mamlaka which is dominion You know Is the birthplace Of Both prayer And altars Okay You know Because what God did In Mamlaka Is I want to just do it Both Mamlaka What God gave us In Dominion But it's also interesting What he did not give us You need to see the whole picture Then you understand authors Okay So Mamlaka gives me Makes me a delegated authority In charge of an ecosystem Or a realm called earth Called earth Mamlaka also Because Mamlaka is delegated authority Okay Man becomes on earth through Mamlaka A power An authority but not a power Because what God does in his genius Is that he leaves power in the word of spirit Because There has to be a reason for man Who has authority on earth To want to trade You know What do you call business Between two sovereigns? Trade And so trading in the spirit Becomes possible because of mamlaka Because God doesn't Give man power He leaves power In the realm of spirit But it gives dominion Authority The right What is authority? Exocia What is exocia Exocia we define Exocia is the right to exercise power So you have the right to exercise it But you've got to have it first Now So man is a sovereign God is a sovereign Now we've established From a political perspective Without even having to be spiritual That presidents don't do vacations In other sovereign territory Unannounced We know that So how did governments See the altar is such a Such a Prescendant Such an ascendant principle Of creation that even heathens can't run away from the vibrations of the principle of the author just in doing life itself. But if you look at life, you're going to find that authors are everywhere. You just never saw them as such. Even in technology, an author shows up as what you call an API, applied a programming interface. Because all an author allows two systems that are different to connect so they can trade. so now APIs without APIs you can't without APIs we can't make money brother because your stuff remains your stuff my stuff remains my stuff and no way to connect it to an API that allows the two systems to engage on legal grounds and exchange goods and services so you get money I get money product moves that's what an author does so God so literally the author is the world's first API applied programming I've never. Oh my gosh. Okay. That makes sense. Because you see, if you are a man, you've got authority. You've got authority. You're the guy in charge of the house. But the house has creatures that have touched sin. So lions that want to eat you. You got crocodiles that do the same. So in other words, you are going to need power. So that you don't run, you are going to need power. Then you've got re-products in the earth that need to, everything needs power. So when you realize, okay, I have the right to be here, but where can I go to trade for the one thing I don't, you see, trade is based on the understanding. Sorry, it's hard to hear you with the microphone. Oh, sorry. You're good. Trade. Trade is based on the understanding That other sovereigns Have a product That I need that will make my stuff work But in order to get it I got to trade Or I got to pay a price for it But I got to do something So God gives us Makes a sovereign through Mamlaka Fine but he keeps power Because remember what dominion does not include Brother Taylor Is ownership Okay Because if man was given ownership Then would have power But he was never given ownership of the earth He was given dominion The earth is the Lord's And the fullness thereof Okay So power remains in the world The spirit and authority So how do you So where do you go To trade power for authority Now, why would God hold on to power? Because God knows that man cannot execute the mandate of dominion without God's help And God really wanted partnership with his children What kind of dad is that? He just created and he throws away the kids No, God wanted participation but he couldn't He knew us, he could see the future We couldn't be trusted with everything So as a father You know he gave us all we need to be independent We know we have power But he left power So I gotta have something I gotta have some leverage Because I know that when if you ever touch sin And you had both authority and power You never even come and see me Take a power of me You never need me So now God has leverage And the leverage he has is that He has the power we need To cast out devils Heal the sick Create wealth It is the Lord that God who gives you power Not authority Gives you power That's what God has I believe it's in the book of Psalms I think Psalms 67 I think That says God has spoken once But twice ever heard That power belongs to God That's David God has spoken only once But twice ever heard it That means in Hebrew it's confirmed It's true Power belongs to the Roman spirit Belongs to God So I got witches That I can drive out if only had power I got debt That I can deal with If only had power I got stuff Roman materials I can work with Make into something else if only had power I don't have to look very far because the Bible is full of scriptures pointing me that the one with power happens to be my dad. He just lives in an invisible world. But just because he's my dad, I just can't cross over because we are two sovereigns. We have a sovereign. So we both have the problems of sovereigns. So we need an interface. A place where we can agree on terms by which power and authority will be shared. And God calls that an altar. So at an altar you are crying in your house. Lord I'm tired of the witchcraft. God says baby I got you. I got all the power to make every witch run away from you. Really Papa? You got it? Oh baby I got it. What do I have to do for it Let's negotiate So Daughter and father Become to negotiate And you are thinking What possibly can God What can possibly Can God want from Me In exchange for power Oh yeah He wants authority But authority over what your life so he says ok how much authority over your life because what does God want to do he's a supervising spirit but he does not supervise his children forced the supervision must be accepted and the way it's accepted is by the degree by which they supervise give up authority over their life. Then the spirit measures how much that authority is worth in power. And power crosses lines. That's an altar. That's what an altar does every day. Exchange authority for power. Exchange authority for power. And those who are wise, like Jesus, give up authority, all of it, at the beginning. Wait, don't tell me that. oh my god dude i have to go get coffee okay this is going to set everyone free oh my gosh yeah don't share that story until i get back hold on all right we're back so you were about to talk about supervision wait yes are you about to go into oh yeah yes well okay one thing that i thought would just help clear it a little bit, what he was saying, that blew my mind when you brought it up. Because you already know this. You've said it a million times. We've never shared on this show the different... What's the story that you share that creates the difference between authority and power? The example, like the actual analogy of it. Oh, at our events? Yeah, the police officer versus the car in the street. Can you explain that really quick? Yeah, that'll be nice. Throw it in. When you shared it with me, it was like, I was like, oh my goodness, I have never considered that, ever. So I've learned most of authority, power constructs from actually you, Pazzo Isi. Yes. But from the business world, the world of energy, the world of even politics. I've studied that extensively. Yes. I've always defined authority as the governance of power, the organization of power. Because if you're a CEO, your job is not to do the things. Your job is to organize the labor, which is energetic transference. And so you're organizing these concepts. But at events, you're talking about the police officer. Yes. We'll talk to people about the difference between the power to do something, discipline, skill, work ethic. Yes. And the authority to receive it. Yes. Or to the authority to expect it. And we talk to a lot of people in New Age and try to teach them, like, this is where it's coming from. What you believe is real, you just haven't gotten to the top level. So to explain the difference between we've all been driving on a road and we see a police officer standing in the middle of the street with his hand out governing traffic. I was like, isn't it interesting that I've never been in my Chevy Silverado truck that I could run over a building with? I've never thought, I'm more powerful than this police officer. Wow. So forget him. Who would win in a fight like him by himself or my truck? Yes. That's the difference between power and authority. is you can have the power but be restrained by the authority of a greater figure. And then vice versa, you can have the authority and be outmatched in terms of power, but because you govern the organization and release of that power, any power used against you will have significant repercussions. Which ties into the new age conversation. Because you might be accessing power in a way that has significant repercussions. And so that's how we, that's the discussion you're talking about which that blew my mind which tied into what you were saying about alters and apis which explains why it's the actual codification in the spirit realm of why psychedelics are seen as an illegal loophole almost or jumping the fence pen yeah and we're getting to something that we're not supposed to see yeah because we weren't even really supposed to be allowed in there at the first place at that point not that way at least fascinating yes and And what I would like to bring out in that discussion is that one of the dangers of people doubling in systems where they are managed by demonic APIs, which is what an evil author is. It's a demonic power It's a lower level mirroring Of the hotel of God Is because These are The devil The devil's kingdom Has a little bit of power That's why they can trade With men on earth who are looking for spiritual power Without going to God But they are a lower power But they are a sanctioned power So what do government superpowers do When you trade with the sanctioned power You get heavy penalties So a lot of people are going to go to hell Or have a lot of repartations In the world they live in Because when you're dealing with the demonic powers And using authors Exchanging power Without coming to God You may be getting a little bit of power But it's sanctioned power It's like what's happening right now in Venezuela With America The sanctioned oil If you get it At the end of the day there's consequences Because America will say okay, you are dealing in sanctioned oil, so we have the right as a superpower to do ABC. It is the same type of conversations between God and the demonic kingdom and its lower network of altars that are being made available to the nations of the earth. It's not that you can't access the power and that the power will not work. Just like you can get the oil. Yes. Or, you know, when Russia was in trouble, you could trade. But then you have a repercussion. Yes. that in most cases is more significant than the thing you got in the first place. Exactly. So if you do the math, you don't want to do it. You don't want to do it. As is in the earth, so it is in the spirit. When you understand it, do you want to be trading and negotiating with this power? Yes. Because once you run out to the end, you're going to lose a lot. Yes. Yes. Yeah. So what takes us into supervision in my head is the questions that come up as results. This is why I've been saying the whole time there's a story. How excited he is. I'm so excited. He is so excited right now. The story arc right now is 10 out of 10. And I mean it. It's a 10 out of 10. Right. So the next question that comes is once you understand dominion, power, and authority, and alters and all those things, the next question is what is to stop us from doing what we see in prosperity gospel, which is a superseding of the rules and regulations that are there for our own safety. Yes. And we're superseding it so that we can get power. You mentioned earlier money is one of those things, and people often will say money is power. So what is to stop us if we say we don't have the authority? Then in our fleshly mind we're thinking, well, how do we go get power as quickly as possible? Yes. Which comes down to if God himself didn't even take all of the power that was available, but he himself was power, what does it look like for us to actually put that under the God's authority and let him run us with that with that Taylor I will pass it back to you in the area I think that question made sense to you in your head but maybe try it there were multiple questions you can't do it okay got it what do you want to start with what did it look like for Jesus when Jesus was on the earth how When you shared the revelation of Jesus being supervised Can you share that story that you shared with us At dinner a couple of months ago Yes Okay So we have already shared Since we are talking about altars Okay And by the way anybody Who says altars are Old Testament Does not understand the technology behind them Because the What they The problem they solve for God and man is consistent. So if it's consistent, then it cannot be relegated to an Old Testament era as if men don't live in the new, needing the same type of deposits and withdrawals on the divine. So, altars are very trans... They will always be permanent structures. As a matter of fact, even heaven itself has some. Now, since... The Authors Are about The trading of power for authority So let's begin Before we can talk to about The The The what is this Before We can talk about The issue of Jesus Where I want to go with this Our brother Taylor Is first Take a little bit of a rabbit trail But it's a connected rabbit trail Which is this That Why would God Need to become a man Because it leads into everything else Why God wanted to redeem man He promised it But he knew it That he couldn't do it As God And so Jesus became a man So if Jesus became a man Then If Jesus really became a man If the incarnation is real Then we would expect Jesus to behave towards God Like any other man Which means Yeshua became a man Number one We know for several things God does not need power He is all power So if at any point in his life on earth Jesus would need power It's proof he became a man Because power is a product Of the divine Men have authority So if Jesus has become a man Then he now Has to play The law He has to play the game Or he has to play the Game of dominion The same way anybody does So he comes on the earth He's a man So now what does he have? He has authority Now to exercise power on earth To do things legally So he is laid in the wilderness by the Holy Spirit To fast 48 days Why would God need to fast? Because God doesn't fast Why would Jesus need to fast? Because he became a man All these are telltale signs Jesus really became a man What is he fasting for? He's He's directed by the Holy Spirit But he's fasting for 40 days for what? Power So which means That the 40 day fast For Jesus The tango The divine tango between the Father and His Son In 40 days of fasting You know what it was about? You are the last Adam But you are now a man If I am going to come through you To redeem the whole new race You are going to have to give me What no man has ever given me And you know what it is Total authority For total power For to him was given the spirit Without measure Why? Because everybody has Moses by measure Elijah by measure Why is Jesus the only one The Bible said to him was given the Spirit without measure because he went where no man would go. He finally gave God what God had been looking for for over 4,000 years. Just one man. Who trusts him so completely who gives all authority so God can have all power on earth. Now let's do this thing. So Jesus comes down and the Holy Spirit says as it's written in the records and he returned with power which means he didn't have it going up he was full of the spirit but he didn't have power going up because he don't return with what he went with he returned because he got a product that will make what he came to do possible the power of his father readily available but why Because Jesus Had given up All authority But what does that mean then It means Jesus agreed to the deal Every man fails at If a man rises or fails The negotiation with God Will always fail Over this issue And that determines how God will use the man How long he'll use the man How powerful he'll use the man Or woman thereof which is it how do you prove to me because every contract needs safe clauses how are you going to prove to me that you have given me all authority over your life there's going to be a model by which we can prove that because otherwise it's verbosity another day of verbosity well said, but how do we prove it? And it seems as if Jesus and the Father came to an agreement. Here's how we can approve it. If you've given me authority over your life, I mean absolutely 100%, the only way we can prove it is you have to be the most supervised human being on earth. You can't even make a decision to buy chocolate unless I say so. Supervise. Can we do that? That was a tango. When Jesus came down, he had signed the deal. Let's do it. That's why Jesus says in Matthew, he said, the son of man, chapter 5, I never understood for a long time, I understood it up to now, scares, scares the heck out of me. Because I'm not even there. Because even now There are areas of my life I still want to hold on to As crazy I know it is I still want to hold on to some things This is the crazy dilemma The illusion of dominion The illusion of power Oh I've got to control But really The most powerful people Just became the most powerful man Because he didn't control himself So he says The son of man can do nothing except he sees the father do it. Why? I made a deal on the mountain. That's why it took me 40 days of fasting as a man to get to that agreement. It was not a fast for fame or power. It was a fast to let go. That's the most difficult fast. To let go. And you know for this. So how Then Does this look like in real life The Lord showed me He said here's how it looks like And it really This one hit me Because I read that story John chapter 5 The Lord took me to John chapter 5 And he says John chapter 5 Jesus And because I was in Israel I saw the pool of Siloam Jesus goes to the pool of Siloam Now think about it The pool of Siloam Was the epitome of a human suffering. If you want to know self-reaches exist in the world, you'll enter the pool of Siloam and if you are soft-hearted, you'll be depressed the whole day. They'll mess you up because you realize, oh my God, I don't even have problems. You mean there are people. There were mangled bodies. There was lepers. There was the child nobody can help. So the pool of Siloam was In the epitome of human suffrage Now In chapter Just One or two chapters earlier Jesus has A meeting Where he heals everybody Do you know how anointed How powerful you have to be He healed everybody means It was not even It was not the problem that was the issue It's just that if you are there It's going to get it done He healed every miracle you can think of happened So you know that the potential The capacity for this guy To heal everybody That kind of power was available to him And then he gets to the pool of Siloam Now if you are the disciples And you just came from a meeting Where he healed everybody Do you know what you are thinking The next meeting is going to be You will be like Bring the New York Times Because the last meeting He healed everybody He told us we are going to the pool of Siloam Do you know what that looks like So I'm sure in their own minds The disciples are thinking My God James this is going to be crazy Do you know who's at the pool of Siloam Everybody who suffers in Israel And for people like Judas Iscariot Who thought Jesus came to make a kingdom on earth This was rather daily Oh my God this is going to be big Because today everybody Will know how powerful Jesus is He gets to the pool of Siloam And he starts to walk over mangled bodies Children crying Maybe there were people that recognized that he was Jesus The Lord Jesus was very famous in those days Because he was the only one who could do what he did And there's whispers You know what happens in a crowded room In a crowded hospital Where nobody gets out alive except once a year Nobody gets here because only an angel Came once a year Imagine being at a hospital where the treatment Comes once a year And there's no guarantee you get in the full Somebody might get ahead of you and your suffrage Continues There was one guy who had been there for 38 years Same hospital And all of a sudden here comes The man who has all power because he has given up, 100%. But God has given more power. The Spirit, without measure, does anybody want to hear? Problem is, he couldn't, because the deal is a supervised deal. And so Jesus gets to the pool of Siloam, full of compassion, his heart bleeds, because you know, imagine the pain, the price of that, that you love people, because Jesus is love. He loved people. Knowing that you love. And then knowing you're pretending that you have got speed without measure. That means if I want to, this five-year-old girl with cancer, I can get her away from you. I can say, Mom, take your baby. I'm going to heal her. Go home. He doesn't. He goes through the crowd because that day, the supervising spirit on the deal they made told them you can only heal one man and then walk away from everybody. Desperate. Can you imagine what happened when that man who had been there for 38 years jumps up in a miracle? Do you know what happened to the other people who are sick? I've been to crusades. We have worked miracles in crusades. One gets healed, everybody wants it now. Because they think God is available. Oh my God, man of God, even me, they cry, man of God, man of God, because they see hope. So do you think surely A man who everybody knows him for 8 years Has been sleeping there And now he takes his mat And he starts to walk with Jesus You think the others around Are not crying Jesus what about me He doesn't even respond He walks through Dies a thousand deaths Because he knows he can But he can't Because the deal for all power Was to be all supervised That's Jesus a more supervised human being to ever walk the earth pretty intense we didn't get into this last time but what do you say to people who are like well what does that say about God why would God do that why would God not authorize him to heal everyone there there was that one time where someone literally touched the hem of his garment and power went out from him as well so it was the end okay I think the question is actually upside down because to ask God for man to ask God why is in that moment to take a role that man can't even play. Because if you can ask God why and if it's within the framework of your answer roles have changed. Because if I'm God, I don't owe you an explanation. but you owe me obedience knowing that if you know me and if love is what defines me and full knowledge is what I have over you I'm basically seeing an angle you don't see yet so whether I heal you today or I heal you tomorrow it's up to me but I think if I heal you tomorrow or five years from now, I get A, B, C and those dominoes fall down and I will get more. But if I have to be submitted to your framework in your five year earlier, before that happens and you get to understand because eventually we, in time God allows us sometimes out of mercy to catch up to the divine reasoning. And we find out that had God made us miloneus five years earlier, I would have blown it. But now that he waited that you struggle and in your struggle ethics came in to bring. In your struggle faith went deeper. In your struggle this happened and then five years later you actually made the right partners to be around the deal. And now you are grateful that you were not a millionaire five years earlier. But if God had to submit to that framework of yours every time in order for you to move this is over. Because one thing about being God and Paul addresses the issue in the book of Romans when he talks about God's sovereignty. He says, who are you? Oh man, you can't even think you can question God. Really, that's what the issue is. You know, why would God allow it? Because he allowed it. It's as simple as that. You know? But if you know that God has revealed himself over a parapher of 66 books where the totality of his counsel and his character can at least come into a good frame You would have to believe if God is holding out It is for a better day It's like Lazarus is sick Oh let's go to him No I'll wait for more days But you said he's sick Yeah I'll wait for more days Why? Because for more days boys gonna be dead And I think I like dead more than sick For this time around You see it's that You know And really Jake That's really the battle Of waters That's what the altar Was meant To have you wrestle Out of your soul That God doesn't always Have to tell you To learn that lesson At an altar That's why the subject of altar is so important It's at the altar You learn the wrestle Until one day you give it up I don't have to tell you But you do have to obey When you say you learn that at an altar What do you mean? Because the altar Is a place of exchange It's essentially a place of exchange Okay So If I have questions That are making difficult for me To really Trust God Is that right? The only way I'll know peace Is if I find An interface Where I can wrestle my issues And get My issues exchanged For the peace I lead So God says to Jacob What is your name? He said Tango You've always been hustling What is your name? You want to know why you struggle so much? You can't get along your name I will not let you go What is your name Because if you don't exchange your name Your life as a devious man Always on the run continues But at an altar We can stangle What is your name My name is Jacob Have a better name Israel What do you want I think Israel One who has been built Powered God Supplanter Jacob That's your name Israel one who Has power with God and with man What do you want God I want that Because so far as Jacob it's been hell Even Israel wants to kill me He's got me everywhere Poster's everywhere I wanted My own brother Because of this name Now behind me My nose are after me This guy's life is trauma At the highest And God says Unless you get one order Through the API You keep going this way But at the API It's an exchange But the exchange Will cost you It's a price At the exchange And what's the exchange To exchange your name Jacob for Israel Hmm Let me look Oh I got I got the price I'm going to have to Break your leg What? You're going to Walk with a limp till the day you die. That's the price. Bam! And go swordy. Bam! Boom! Swordy. That was a bam. That was a bam. Oh, that was a bam. Cock it down. Oh. That's okay. Alright, you were doing the... Break your leg. Just for context, we had... Can I have the iPad you've made? Oh, yeah, yeah. Man of God? Thank you so much. Don't give him his drink again, though. No, not his drink. I will not... I'll give you an empty cup if you need to look. You know, I have... But I did find a scapegoat, so that helps me. That I can blame Katie Souza for this. That's just... Maybe. People don't know that Katie... Well, may or may not have spilled something on the same carpet right before we started filming. Yes. Boom. Breaks his leg. Changes his name. You're getting violent. Yes. To animate it. Just pop you right back in. Yeah, but again... The idea of the whole thing is that The altar is exchanged So if you have questions about God That are making it difficult for you To trust him, walk with God The only place where it can be exchanged For some form of peace So you can move on Not because God can move on God is going to be God whether you believe in him or not But it's going to be horrible for your walk So where do you go to put those things to rest? You tangle with the Lord At the altar until there's an exchange. He takes your thoughts of instability, don't know if God loves me, and He gives you the assurance that He does that you don't have to know everything for you to know that you are loved. And if you can live with that, that's what faith is all about. But your doubts are gone. At least they're not haunting you like that. So because people don't understand the subject of altars, they live with these issues for too long until they jack them up because there's no place of exchange you've got to find a place of exchange when that happens the risk is sometimes people will they might think that it's a supernatural replacement and they will no longer have any fear but Jacob met Yisrael the next day and he was terrified even after he wrestled with God so is it almost a decision how do you reconcile having questions for God how do you reconcile that and make it stick because Jacob actually didn't make it stick he had to kind of go back through experience the fear but God gave him something to latch on to what have it been like with you because I know you've had questions for God you've doubted God what I've come to realize That When God When I've had my doubts and my questions And then I somehow wrestled with God You know at the altar And there was some exchange Where there came A major level of peace Where I could move on Because I keep just moving on Because there's a lot of stuff That gets explained or explain themselves along the way of growth and just doing life so the reality is that even when you have an encounter with God and you have been given a deposit of a grace it takes time for you intellectually because the encounter is spiritual but you still have your mind will and emotions needing to be renewed in reference to the grace you have now received. So sometimes it takes time. So there's a variance. So you can know that God is a protector, but it takes your time. Your spirit can be anchored. God is a protector. But it takes your soul a couple months to get to the same place. So there'll be variances because the soul is catching up to the reality of where the spirit is. Brilliant. That's the dichotomy. Got it. Yeah. Then there comes a time of growth where what we call spiritual growth is where soul is catching up with spirit. Because at that point There is no Retrogression as to the reality Now understood by the soul Not just by the spirit God loves me, my soul is now there It took a couple months My soul to Get to what my spirit has already received But you can get there Your soul can get there Until your spirit has received it That why God gives me Your spirit receives it Hello Abraham But I know it going to take your time to get to that to this Makes sense. That answers a lot of questions for me in my life. So thank you for that. Go ahead. I have a question that's primarily for you because I trust that you're going to be able to take my question and formulate into something that might make more sense for where we can go. Okay. What I'm feeling in the question I have is, For some people, when you look at the life of Jesus, it doesn't always look all that great. And I don't really have interest on this show in proving to people why it's worth following God. But I think it would be interesting to discuss when we look at Jesus as peak humanity. Like, he didn't have fear. He didn't exactly, he is known as the richest man that ever lived. And simultaneously by societal standards, it looked quite poor. and so to some people I could see it being like why is it worth it but there's probably a lot of different factors that we've never considered about Jesus that he had and that he experienced because he didn't experience he wasn't going to have to experience a ton of fear because he didn't, he was under supervision the whole time so Taylor I think it would be interesting if you know how to formulate this into a question or where we need to go I think it would be interesting to talk about what it's like when you live under supervision under the side of Jesus also maybe what it's looked like for you to try to live that out to the best of your ability I think that would be, I'm really interested in where that would go in terms of what Jesus experienced through supervision and then what that's like to live it out day to day Right I think, does that question make sense for you? Yeah, I think I have an idea where it's trying to go I think there's multiple questions in one but I know the idea Yeah, exactly, let's just kick it to you Yeah, you know, I think one of the questions that I hear is, why is Jesus worth following? Yeah, which is a great question. Why is this worth following? Okay. So, with that is, why is Jesus worth following? Yeah. Because, for one thing, think about it. In the history of the world, world religions, you would never find a messianic, transcendent human figure who suffered an historically documented level of suffering that was out was just unimaginable on the claim that this is why he came he doesn't even blame he stoment us because to fix blame is to act like he's a victim of what they are doing. But if they are playing a role in a script he already accepted before he got here, it makes sense that he has no animosity even towards the Romans. But to go through that level of suffering even on a human level, on a claim that I'm a son of God and I came to die for you that would be a lot even for the best pathological liar because pain has a way of reducing people to their basics and the level of pain he experienced if it was a forgery and he didn't believe that he was the only hope for humanity the pain and the level of torture the Romans gave him would have given any human being cause to have cut it out I've been lying, let's stop it cut it off it doesn't make sense to go through all of that never mind to go all of that just dealing with the 39 stripes, the level of debauchery that was, and the pain that went with it because of the kind of weapon, what is this, a whip the Romans used. The cattails. That had that, yes. It's like being beat with a cactus, but that's metal. You know, that's even before you have to take a heavy cross to go down Val de Rosa, down the front, to go, if this is a forgery, what is this a mistaken issue of divine grandeur pain would have discovered the depravity or the pretense of the man but the fact that Jesus doesn't curse doesn't even mistreat the Romans and even when the women cry cry for him which would be understandable he does something outrageous. He tells the women do not weep for me. Which is interesting. Either he is very socially unconscious or he knows something. He is saying even a little bit of sympathy dows the sympathy puts a chink in my armor as your savior. because if I need your tears then I didn't think this through if I need your tears to even give me a little bit of comfort in the suffrage in the deal me and my father made for the redemption of the world if I need your tears why do people cry? because there is a comforting dynamic to crying that's why we cry we cry for each there is a comfort we receive so crying for him you know exposed the soul of Jesus to accepting their sympathy at least their love that this suffering is hurting them enough that they are crying like this but to even accept it is to mean the plan of redemption had not been thought out because at that point Jesus becomes a victim of what he's going through. But the victim takes foreknowledge out of the process. That means the father didn't think things through. But if foreknowledge is planned this, then it makes sense what the Bible says. Like a sheep before its slaughter, before its share, he was silent. It was the only response to say, I got it. I love you. So what's the plan? I may say, everything I claimed about me, this doesn't prove it. What man, what forgery, what liar, what spiritual grandmaster trying to, because most spiritual grandmasters are the reason they want to be at the top of the food chain because they, really, they are very self-centered. Anyone wants to be at the top of the food chain, they want to be self-centered. So trust me, somebody like that, to serve up for his followers, at that level he's going to collapse at one level his own self interest will rise and say forget this the fact that Jesus never did all of that went all the way and she was all done is worth following really worth following that was a good answer what were your other questions I forgot I don't know if something's important now if something's important yeah alright let's keep going then I want to talk about dreams for a second you have a lot of them we've never talked about dreams on the show have we? no you say that dreams are a primary and legitimate language of the Holy Spirit not necessarily a secondary first year experience it's a primary communication model I'm kind of curious if that's something that you can pray for. Like, what if people don't have dreams? It sounds like you were born with them. Yes. And Jake has them naturally, but... Every night. Every night. Yes. Maybe can you, like, unpack just, like, dreams as a communication medium and then the interpretation of dreams, dream theology, help us unpack that. First, yes, dreams. Why do dreams... become the primary communication channel of men. And God. Why they have, you know, because, you know, dreams, as you know, are so important in the scripture that people got promoted over them. People got fired over dreams. Daniel would not be possible, as the story of Daniel would be impossible if dreams was not an issue. In the cultures of the day, Joseph would not be. So there was a We have lost the transcendency And the power that dreams can bring On a culture like they had But in any way, going back to scripture There's a reason for it Dreams become important Because of how man was designed As a communication channel To understand dreams You must look at the design of the man Man is spirit, soul and body can spirit, soul and body of the three faculties of man only one can go to sleep which leaves two dynamic two integral parts of the man that never sleep the soul and the body and the spirit Which are both eternal So if the soul doesn't go to sleep Okay There is a rest in the sense to the soul That the body Is less exercised on the soul Because the body in working Puts a lot of taxing on the soul What am I going to eat What am I going to do So that aspect So all the soul gets is relieved from the weight The body puts on the soul In sleep So if you rest it is because the soul was rested from the body's demand on it. But, the spirit is still very much awake. Because that part of you came out of God. And spirits have no need for sleep. So if God does not create a communication channel for the spirit, it will be watching the body. Can you imagine living around a child that you have to watch? The child goes to bed. But you are awake. You got a brain. You can think. You can still feel Now you have to watch the child For 8 hours while he's snoring Because your own life will not start Until that snoring child Wets up then you have a life What? That life sucks I've never thought about that before So God developed a language To give priesthood To the spirit While the body is sleeping So that priesthood of man Is not only when he's awake is actually more active when you sleep because the body is not taxing the spirit. And as a matter of fact, I tell people that your highest priesthood is when you sleep, for most of you, until you change that by supervision and submitting. But until you do that, your priesthood is weakest when you are awake because you are fighting God more than you are saying yes. Fighting God more than... But at night, God can get you faster because the body is being put to rest and now God can say to you hello I've been going to talk to you man you got a snake in your house that's why I'm giving you a dream that in your company you have a snake that's why you're being chased by a snake so when you wake up hello when you wake up can you remember this dream start looking for the snake in the company before you're in trouble so God has went out to communicate so now there is a priesthood of the spirit man because now I don't go to sleep so why is it fair that I have to be arrested so now the spirit doesn't go in a dormant's place no the spirit don't sleep so what happens then that's when God begins to unmask what I believe part of what he does at night is unmasking unenveloping the contents of destiny that's in the spirit. You know, because the Bible says, Paul God tells Jeremiah, before I formed you in your mother's womb, I knew you. That's an intimate knowledge. I knew you. So, the question then becomes, if God knew us, intimately so. That's when we were inculcated with destiny. Our entire program, what makes us ask, and the things we call destiny were not given to us in time. They were given to us like the stories of old cause. Long, long time ago, there was once, a long, long time ago, there was just you as a spirit conceived in the mind of God and impregnated with purpose before there was interruptions of soul, of soul fragmentation and body, weight, tiredness, exhaustion, which are interruptions in the ecosystem. But before that, the purest form of you was your spirit in the mind of God, conceived in the mind of God, you know, planned for by God in his mind. So that when he forms your spirit and puts it in the fetus, he understands what the journey should be. But again, he knows you're going to a planet where flesh is hijacked by demonic entities that are former employees of this ecosystem. so they have some tactical advantage on how to confuse what's coming from here in that body that they can control through disease through addictions can control that so what happens and then they can fragment the soul on top of it in that world I wonder if you remember everything we told you spirit I wonder if you remember everything we told you or will your experiences on earth be so bad? You forget, and wait still, you begin to believe you came from there, not from here. Because the moment you, that world, and the spirits that are in there, because who is Satan's principal power? Lying. If it can get you to believe you are a victim of this, that this has shaped you more than this, then it just becomes, if I was born white maybe my life would be different but I was born black you are lost in the matrix if this never happened to me so how does a God who loves you so much and wants to do destiny with you Jake ever get to you except when the 8 hours when at least the body is put to rest then he comes through dreams hopefully to help you remember so in dreams we have imagery that doesn't make sense in the life we live in in dreams sometimes we think we are rich but in life we have no money could it be it's because we are actually rich and our rich is hidden in our poverty out of the lying spirit around us and the ecosystem and our belief systems. Could it be we are really rich? Why do we see ourselves killing giants in dreams? But in earth we are afraid of rats. Because the matrix is God has thinking this is who we are. But the dreams are pushing. We are giant slayer. That's the programming. So dreams now become important. But then also God is a redeemer. If he is a redeemer then he's going to be thinking that dreams must be more than just about reminding you about what you've forgotten from the programming they gave you God gave you that you caught destiny that you haven't yet uncovered or maybe partly uncovered if God is redemptive then the conversation in the dreams must go beyond just reminding you about what you've forgotten can then there be dreams that are about God saving the rest of your family. So now you start having dreams about an uncle dying. And he's actually dying. And he didn't even know he had cancer until your dream. Because he's a redeemer. Now he's redeeming in your dreams. So the dream has begun in bigger. But if God is interested in nation states and nations belong to the Lord, could it be, then he can come to a Pharaoh and give you a dream that helps nations survive what's coming so now his nature's redeemer is now pushing the envelope on what kind of dreams are available but the Satan can also play in that space because dreams are a realm just like earth is a realm so that the what's done in, if dreams are a realm, a spiritual realm, and I'm sure when you get to heaven, when the sun even more, but it's a realm. If it's a realm, then it's going to have laws of the realm, and anybody who can access to the realm, can play in the realm. So if a witch can have access to the realm, they can put a programming in your life, in that realm, that becomes actionable when you wake up. So Jesus tells us, A master planted good seed In his field Talking about dreams The consequence of dreams And the bleeding of the realms He says Then the growth seed began to come up Then one day Tares showed up in the field And his servants came to him They said master Did you not plant good seed In your field He says I did But master we have a problem We have a contradiction Where are the tears coming from He says And while men slept An enemy Who has access to the realm Of dreams Came I never knew that was about dreams Dang An enemy who has access To the realm of dreams has done this. Why did God stop him? Because if you have access to the realm, you can play in the realm. So if God can sow seed in the realm of dreams because he's got access to the realm, Satan can sow seed in the realm because he has access to the realm. He has done this. But don't worry, let them grow together. Because they'll be different. At a certain time, I'll put it out. But the fruit of that came from the dream realm. So if you don't think dreams are important, Jesus thinks they are. So important is the realm of dreams that Jesus became a refugee in Egypt because of a dream. Rescued from premature death because angels can also play the realm. angels, an angel appeared to Joseph in his dreams, which means angels can play in the realm of dreams, so why are you surprised that Lucifer has access to that mystery? You see, Satan didn't just fall, if somebody says you went to Yale University, or you had a Harvard degree, and then you didn't finish, or maybe you got expelled from Harvard. Being expelled from Harvard doesn't mean you are doesn't mean that the mysteries and the nuances of Harvard were expelled out of your mind. So whatever mysteries about the realms God has made that Lucifer had access to before the fall, he didn't lose that. So the dream is a realm. And we know that angels can play in the realm because if angels couldn't play in the realm of dreams, Then what is an angel appearing to Joseph in a dream? That means the angel did not appear to Joseph in his house When the angel appeared to Zechariah It was physical, in his house When the angel appeared to Joseph The Bible says in a dream So it's a realm Which means angels, celestial beings Can play the realm That means if they can play the realm They can bring visitors that's now witches now can play the realm because if fallen angels have access to the realm then they can pray they can bring their what? followers in the realm now witches are playing in the realm and are able to do a lot in that realm that's why we can that's why we have to be responsible that's what you know then we cannot dream a dream that is disturbing and just act like it never happened. That is being naive. Because if the products of the realm can manifest over time, then you have a responsibility to react to the realm. Which doesn't mean you have authority in the name of Jesus to abort what the enemy began in the realm. That you do. But most Christians, they just, oh, it was just a dream. Until five months later, that's what I dreamed. Which means the realm was still working. That's what I dreamed means just your ignoring the realm did not stop the realm from bringing the fruit what they were going to bring. Because you said in your own words, I dreamed it! I saw the accident! Oh my God! I just thought it was a dream. No, a realm had made its play. It's not going to change. It made a play. You have to respond to the play, one or the other. That's the issue for me, a dream. So that's to me the importance and the efficacy of the dreams. It would be a major missed opportunity for you not to take advantage of this because I don't have many dreams. And when I do, the Lord tells me explicitly what it means. There are probably people who have physically died from trying to get into my dreams, so I am staying away from it. That's powerful. But let's let you... That means... Yes. I'll give you context on my situation as well. So I dream just about every night. um sometimes i look forward to the nights that i don't dream at all um last night i had three different ones i literally didn't have time to write them down this morning so that's i still need to write them down but like one i have i have different types sometimes they are sometimes they're sexual and we have to my wife my wife's sitting next to me but sometimes we have to talk about it and i'm like look it's not good and i'll and sometimes i'm like babe i've been gone for 30 days. I've been gone for a month. And here, when I woke up, for example, not this morning, but yesterday morning when I woke up, my alarm went off at 5.45 a.m. I woke up and asked the Google thing what time it was because I was certain it was 3 p.m. I was in the middle of the day. So I ignored the alarm and I went back to sleep for another two days. That's how it felt in the dream. So I'm gone for days at a time. I have all sorts of dreams. Like one I had last night was actually, it's not this past night, the night before one of the most interesting ones i've never heard and i won't read it unless you ask me to i had a dream about an entire cult and i've never heard of this and i'd be very surprised if it actually exists in this realm but the way that it started is extremely disturbing and i saw it in the most vivid vivid uh way possible i remembered every detail of everything i could see it like a movie and it literally felt like i was gone for like two weeks and so I have a million questions, obviously. One of the biggest things is like, what is allowing access from my life in the day-to-day, even in the first heaven and the third heaven and things I'm doing here on earth, is allowing for the things that are inappropriate to get into my dreams? Yes. Because that makes it difficult for me to know, okay, this was something good. Do I give that to that person? Like, I saw somebody speaking on a stage the other night, and I felt, I was like, Lord, am I supposed to send it? I felt, no. There have been other times that it's been a good so what he's asking a lot what he's asking is ask the question again but don't give all the context we're both going to get lost how what affects the realm of dreams what gives access to either side yeah okay yeah okay yeah because um the realm of dreams involves man then the laws of access and exit the laws of access and the reasons for access or lack thereof is going to be rooted in what's happening in the man's real life you see because a lot of what dreams are trying to to expand on is what's already going on or what is about to be, or what has been written. So it's always that, what is about to be, what has already been written, or what is hiding in plain sight, and you can't see it because you are too close. So in dreams, God begins to give you a little bit of a distance, so you can almost observe your life from a third-person perspective. You know Now The So The There is the Myriads of reasons Why you may be Experiencing Because I You know It's only now Even for me I went through Because I went through A lot of Warfare Right now My dreams are becoming Sometimes I don't even remember what I dreamed of It's really a testament Because now there are times I remember Because God must remember But a lot of times it's like The doors are being closed For me I think there was plenty And So I think that The kind of Genetic Iniquities you may have One of the ways God can show you That you're having a flash From that issue Could be you have a dream And that is not Why are the dreams so sexual? Because God is trying to say There's something you may not be that There's something that can emerge From the DNA If not confronted the way it should That will become that Even though it's not real now Okay So now you have to react to it So God told me You need to react Because that's partly how you your authority, I'm telling you, part of my authority I've lent it by shutting down what's coming, to me, that was my biggest thing, because that's, I think, where I've lent most of my authority, I've seen that I'm taking ground by how peaceful and less confrontation on my dreams have become over the years, because it was like ramble, okay, WWF or whatever, there was a lot, because, again, that exposure to witchcraft, I did a lot of things, I shortened my story, but I did go deep until my father came down, there's a lot that happened there was a lot of stuff then plastic my own bloodline, there was other stuff so I think that's one of them the other thing is is that the dreams also can also be a window into some of the fragmentations you are having and if there's fragmentation I think that then the the people in the demonic world can definitely have access to your life so what i've just done over the years i can't say i have all the answers to it but i can tell you that the best answer i've found over time jake is you gotta respond to it in the name of jesus the most amazing thing that jesus has authority in the realm i have a dream where i'm actually calling it out in the name of jesus and the thing heals in the dream world so i realize oh that's what our power when he says God has given him a name It's really in all realms So because the realm of dreams Responds to the name of Jesus You can use the name of Jesus To do a lot of clean up in the realm And also because he has access Anything that acts as those Those can be closed Or they can be opened So God taught me How to begin to plead the blood of Jesus On certain doors And then read by little I began to see less and less Now I'm not saying I don't have some dreams here But it's really become very rare Even today I don't remember what I dreamt you know, but I slept very deep, you know, so I think that it may be a combination of factors, you know, but what I've found that has been the most efficient for me is to respond, you know, and the way I respond is this, is asking God, you know, now in responding though, you're going to have to develop your inner witness, your ability to listen, the ability to stay quiet, and you know, but once you, if you're able to stay, most people are able to stay and just meditate in the Lord, Was this dream you Or is this dream demonic Because what I found is If it's demonic There's no need to go ruffle through the trash To throw the old dust can You see if it's God Even if there's a snake in the dream But it's God It's redemptive So now I want to know But if it's the devil It's a trash can So I don't go through and say Oh what is the paper If it's the devil's trash Leave it the devil's trash Then I deal with all of it I don't even Deal with all things The devil's trash There's nothing Redemptive in it So it's a waste of energy Okay Then Then I found out Something else That some of the dreams He's got to me No That's not the devil That's not me That's the fears You have in your soul They're projecting So now I began To use my dream To clean what's in my soul But when it's God There's an authority on it There's a redemptive feeling to it There is a peace to it So those are the ones that want to Whatever, so the sore ones and the one But if it's just the devil, but God said If it's the devil, you've got to use your authority You see what I'm saying? Like there was a times I would You know, if I dream Because you know, feeding, eating is spiritual You know that, eh? One of the most spiritual things in the world is eating Okay, so You know, as a matter of fact, the first sin In the Bible is because of eating Eating but We are in this world because somebody ate the wrong thing So eating is spiritual So whenever I have a dream where I'm eating I am very concerned Halfway, I rise up at the Lord Were you feeding me? Or was feeding me? There's been times that I was feeding you There'll be new revelations coming Ah, praise God He said, no, no, no, no, no, no Satan was feeding you Oh brother I pray, I say, Lord, in the name of Jesus Whatever I was fed I command my body to vomit it I destroy the program That's what I didn't have before Now I have that in my repertoire There's a response to it Once I respond I move on from it That's it Do you remember the dream That I had in Blue Ridge Scorpion Yeah the scorpion tail thing And I don't know if you've heard this story or not But I woke up Couldn't remember, but I knew I had a dream, but didn't remember what it was. Yes. I was feeling very agitated, very anxious, very frustrated. I was like, Holy Spirit, what's going on? I remembered the dream in detail. Yes. I was like, oh, my God, what is this? What do I do? And he said, it's not a dream. It happened. You saw it. In the dream, you saw it happening. I was like, what am I supposed to do with it? We'll deal with it later. We've got to pull something out. And so on the on the way home, yes, I was like, let's do it now. Yes. The Lord was like, are you sure you're driving? I said, right now for a second time, he said, are you sure it will hurt? Come on. I said, right now, which I've learned if the Lord asked me, are you sure twice? I might wait. You might do it. Just a second. but what's interesting is what he's saying is like always respond and that's like exactly what the lord told me to do yes he's like we need to pull some things out yes and just from like i think probably an intense personality i was like we're doing this right now like no it's funny right now i haven't ever had a dream that i've i've only i think i've had four or five dreams in my whole life but i don't think i've ever had a dream that i haven't been instructed to do something one of the questions i wanted to ask was what do you suggest people do with dreams I mean, one of the things I've been instructed to do from Apostle Ossie was write them down. So I've been writing them down for two years, but I'm going to be honest, I've felt pretty stagnant. And I've asked God about my dreams many times and I haven't gotten always clear. I've had two. I've had two that made any sense out of the probably 200, somewhere around there. So what would you suggest doing with dreams when you have them? Okay, that's interesting. You're doing the right thing. Writing them down because soon enough you may encounter somebody who has an anointing of Joseph or Daniel. They are solving mysteries. They are people. See, every realm has its own prophets. Who are the custodians of the mysteries of the realm. It's an anointing. So Joseph shows up. There's no dream. You can tell Joseph. You won't tell you what it is. He was a custodian of the realm. That's why dreams became his primary language. Same thing with Daniel. Okay? So I believe that people should definitely write them down. Because what good is it Daniel if he or she arrives, you know, with that gift of interpretation of dreams and you have no memory? Mm-hmm. You see? So that's why writing it down and journaling is very, very important, you know. but just outside the show, maybe I would like to look at one or two of your dreams later. You know, maybe make sense of one or two, you know, or at least guide you, you know. And whatever we find out, we'll report to you here. I promise if it's helpful, we'll report it back. But it's good to write them down. So what you're doing, Jake, writing them down is huge because at any moment when something is written, when somebody with that anointing works or the gift of interpretation of dreams works in your life, now, oh my God, it begins to make sense. But at the same time, what happens is that if you have as many dreams as you have, it means you need to start praying for one thing, Jake. You need to pray for it, which is, Lord, give me the gift of interpretation because God will not be giving this to you if that gift is not lying dormant within you. But what you do in the meantime, when you meet a dream interpreter and they interpret the dream, record the answer because over time, the pattern develops. the language has its own, the language, the realm has its own, what do you call the ABC? What do you call that? Alphabet. Okay. Every realm, wherever there is language, there is an alphabet. And so over time, the symbols begin to mirror into few that depending on how they are disposing the dream, you can almost have an idea what this is. Because there's a language. Almost like what the mani goes through to do. Yes. So that's why Don't What happened So in other words Don't isolate your dreams So now that I like that you have So imagine if 20 of those dreams Get interpreted And oh They make sense Now you go back You're going to see a pattern developing Oh okay So when this shows up It's kind of this This shows up This is kind of this You see what I'm saying And that's the situation Yeah Yeah But I think for everybody Who is listening Writing them down is number one. Otherwise you forget them then you have no reference point. Keep going. On what? On what? But can I tell you of a dream that happened to me that changed? Yes. Oh. This is the most intense dream I've ever had with, oh it was very consequential. So I was in Uganda and I had flown in for the big conference and But this church They would have what they would call Morning glory prayer meetings That would start at 5 in the morning And I've been flying I'm like I'm not feeling it man I've arrived at light I just ministered Are you coming at 5am? I said 5am I've been there I've been in my bed In the hotel enjoying Jesus I'm sorry I'm not coming They said ok We get it Forget it You know So I go to the holiday inn I'm sleeping And absolutely when I slept I thought oh man I'm going to probably sleep up to 10 I'm sleeping And Maybe about 2 hours in my sleep I'm In my sleep I enter a vivid dream And I could You see It's so vivid All the emotions My body was even Because When a vivid dream was My body was reacting to the dream In real Like this It's the only dream I've ever had But it was the most vivid I mean I'm looking around Law books everywhere I look up The Ancient of Days is sitting And I know God the Father is sitting Majestically he's sitting On the I see the cloud of witnesses But Satan Is presenting A very aggressive case Against me I become like what I'm on trial What have I done And Satan There was a somberness in the court So that gave me the idea Oh whatever this is I think everybody knows The serious implications on my life And the enemy says So the enemy is arguing Lucifer was arguing I've got to be given the right I have found the open doors I have presented my case I have enough evidence that I've given this court is arguing and I'm sitting I'm listening but my body is reacting because of the intensity of the dream I'm just like if you had walked in you would have probably thought I'm being shocked what's happening it was that but I was by myself my wife was not with me what's wrong it was very intense he kept saying I have the right the legal right to reverse the gains in ministry Francis has made on this evidence. You've got to give it to me. And he was bored. And the father they were just listening. The father was just listening. Then Jesus turns and he walks over to me he says Francis Francis he says petition my father using Job 33 from verse 15 that's the argument let's turn this aside he was advocating for how I get out of it he was the advocate 1 John 2 I've read it a thousand times he became real that day what is the verse? 1 John 2 that says if any man sins let him know we have an advocate with the father and Job 33 that is it and then Job 33 verse 15 can I read it because to explain the dream I would have to read it because I would explain what was happening the Lord whispered in my ears I was stunned I knew oh it's over and I'm thinking Lord as if I have not suffered enough in my life if my gains in ministry I reversed. What does that mean for me? What do I lose? Do I start over? You know, what's going to happen? And then the Lord walks over, very compassionately, but says, Francis, petition the Father, using Job 33, 15, from verse 15, going down, and we'll turn this case around. And this is what it is. So, when he says that, I wake up It's like a power Leaps my body I go up You never wake up from sleep Like you're on a springboard You need a force I woke up like something pushed me I went like here And landed on the bed on my knees Feetal position Awake But still in the dream I could feel the trial was on But now I'm awake And the Spirit of God says Take your iPad Quickly I took my iPad I went to Job 33 It's 15 You are still on trial This case is not over And then this is what happened And this was a dream In a dream In a dream In a vision of the night Now I How never have known to go there Except Yeshua whispered it to me Petition him In a dream In a vision of the night When deep sleep falls upon men while slumbering on their beds Then he opens their ears, the ears of men And seals their instruction In order to turn man from his deed and cancel pride from man he keeps back his soul from the pit and his life from perishing by the sword Man is also chastised with pain on his bed and with strong pain in many of his bones, so that his life abas bread, his soul suckling food, his flesh west away from sight and his bones stick out which were once not seen. Yet his sword draws near the pit And his life to the executioners God said you are to executioners This is where Now when I'm reading this I'm bringing tongues But this is where the Lord now said Say this, say this You know He says your life is drawing near to the pit The executioner is in the build He got an answer He wants to reverse your gains This is going to be bad for you If there is a messenger for him This is where it turned for me If there is a messenger for him Who for him? The one who saw is being dragged by the executioner to the pit If there is only a messenger What is the game changer? If there is a messenger for him A mediator One among a thousand To show man his uprightness And Lord said He says Francis You know what that means? You know, he says, hand over the case to me. Tell the father who I am. Testify to the father about me. Because Satan's case is based on you. Turn the strategy to making the case about me. So that the father can be reminded of your uprightness through what I did. And that I'm a mediator. I'm allowed legally to come between you and the devil and God and I began to tell, I'm crying tears are everywhere because I could feel the intensity, I said Lord Father when Job wrote this scripture Lord, there was no mediator for Job because the mediator had not come to the earth but Lord, I am not Job I am a New Testament believer, the mediator has come he's in court right now yes I've done wrong I'm saying this to the Lord but Lord whose uprightness are you going to judge mine or the uprightness of my mediator what's on the line here and I begin to feel the turning of the case the father even smiled from the bench and Satan stopped talking he continues he says verse 24 he says then he is gracious to him I said Lord your word says in a dream you will come to preserve man so Lord if you didn't want me to win this case why did you disturb my dream unless you want to give me this instruction so Lord I have responded to the instruction the mediator is willing to speak for me and the trial is about my wickedness and that of my family and the mistakes I've made but Lord this trial shouldn't be about me this trial it should be about the uprightness of my mediator because I'm in him I'm praying in Uganda I am weeping but praying it was deep intercession and the Lord is I mean I begin to see the whole the corner of the room change then verse 24 comes and he said then he's gracious to him and says deliver him from going down to the pit I have found a ransom I said Lord it's not a ransom in there If Jesus your son is not a ransom Then Lord let the devil invest my gains I'm praying let the devil If it's not my ransom I'm okay I'm a sinner I'm sure I've done a bunch of crappy stuff But if this your son Is your ransom Then let me go Because you have a ransom for whatever I've done And the father took the gavel He said this court Judges I mean He said bench it says We roll in the favor of Francis Miles bam! The enemy was so furious he left like a tantrum child out of the courtroom and the court was adjourned and the court began to stand as the members of the court were going to different parts of the heaven and guess who was left in the courts? Two of us, Jesus and me and in the dream he said, wow you want that one? Because you listen to me You know? And then he says, kneel. I kneeled, but what comes next is not something to say. It's so sacred. But he did something to me. He says, kneel. I want to do something for you now. So, dreams I found the most powerful is to respond. You got to respond. It's literally in Job, in the Old Testament, it says he found a ransom. Jesus hadn't even been crucified yet what's interesting is that right before verse 15 I just thought it was an interesting side note in verse 14 it says for God speaks once and even twice yet no one notices it and then the amplifier says including you Job and you know when he says that he says that's the trouble God has during the day when we are awake we never listen while we are awake so they think there was no dreams how would God deliver us from the pit so if I don't have dreams does that mean I listened no I'm awake I don't listen you do I'm like but I'm just saying but I think for you God knows he can get you when he can and there are people who have developed the ability to be able to listen during the day and they're very analytical by nature so sometimes they tend to figure it out through the fact that they have a very high sense of what I call godly logic, a sense of reasoning that they end up being where God wants them to be anyway. So that there is sometimes, yeah. What's interesting is, I've never heard it said, what you said is that every realm has their own profit. Yes. And consciousness is a realm, a multi-layered realm. Yes. Dreams is a realm. I think primarily I hear a lot through consciousness and my visions are through that and it's very difficult for me to ignore them they'll just they'll just stand in front of you they're just there so that's probably one of my realms that I'm called to and yours might be dreams yes yeah yes you want to just try taking my mic at this point i'll repeat after repeat it all right she's asking there's been many times that she's experienced where i consciously would make a decision that i'm going to move forward in obedience like i have not before and then when i do that there are at least two or three times that we can remember probably the past two years where it is essentially it becomes hell in my dreams yeah and it's it's every day is a battle for me to wake up. And so, you can take it from there. Yes. Okay. So you're porous. You have a porous border in the realm of dreams, but it's also your highest gift. So the enemy knows that the only way to stop Jake, you know, is in his dreams because that there he can access him because in his working, he probably knows when he makes him up and man is going to do it. And so I think that for you You are in the phase That I was in when I had to make a stand You see think about If we're in a spiritual battle Okay Then we have to assume that when you go to war There will be a period of war Is that right? Yep If you just use natural warfare But friends, if you lived in America in 1942, 1945, you lived in the war period. Is that right? So for the people who live in this position of time, they saw their sons and daughters being taken by the military and going to war. Some not returning, mothers screaming when the military man comes to the door with a letter, you know what that means? So they probably didn't think they'll come in time of peace. For that generation If you interviewed them War is all they knew But because that generation Also made a stand The next generation Or even that generation That lived long enough So a time of peace in America Like not before A time of peace for you In the realm of dreams is coming The Lord says you want to make a stand In the season of war Because the dreams Is your highest gift And the enemy wants to make it your weakest because whatever is your gift the enemy wants to make it your weakest so that is he wants you to hate dreaming when that's where your gift lies so you need to make a stand and say we're going to fight for liberty you know you know I think Christians are the only one I think if this issue in Christendom is not healed And I think part of the people that brought this cancer At the faith movement Especially the prosperity movement They destroyed the ability of the Christian To fight through things In the name of faith and prosperity So that A Christian today In Tulsa Can't relate to Paul Who can say When we were in Asia We were Sorted on every side It was so bad We felt the sentence of death upon us Now in Tulsa In a prosperity bubble of faith Solves everything Cures everything quickly Something is wrong with Paul Either you miss God going to Asia But he doesn't do that He doesn't say that His conclusion is actually very different From what he did to be called The faith movement His conclusion is Oh, yeah, I told you about how bad it was Let me tell you why it happened God did it So that we may not We may learn Not to trust in ourselves But in God who raises the dead That's your conclusion, Paul Oh yeah, that's the only thing that happens Now that's not coming from Tulsa That's not coming from faith culture Right, yeah So we have lost the ability To make a stand Until the enemy He bows to the word of God. Because everything must happen so quickly. And it doesn't happen so quickly. Something is wrong. No, sometimes war takes time. But when you win the war, the peace may be one and it is. Is it worth it? I don't want to live yet. So, I had to make a stand. Because I was Jake's. Lord of hell in my dreams. Lord of hell. A lot. But dreams I realize now. I start dreams and my prophetic so but I battled I battled because I knew I'd open so many doors but the thing is is you need to be closing doors with the blood of Jesus so that's why writing down the negatives one it would be good for a season only because you are saying to yourself what is that okay wow I was having sex in my dream okay Lord anything giving legal right to the spirit of promiscuity adultery pornography You name it In my bloodline That the enemy has found And using it Shut it down You stand Until all of a sudden Those sexual dreams disappear Because the gate is being closed Because when you're closing a door At first it doesn't look like you're closing it If the door is wide open Is that right? Things can A few things can still sneak in While the door is going to close Is that right? It doesn't mean it's not closing eventually it will be bam and those dreams become fewer and then they go because the door is closed and then you work your way around the field very helpful thank you to sneak this in there before we move on there's also something to be said for consequence byproducts the spiritual world is pretty intelligent yep and so they can track through here's what happens when I mess with this person this way I see fatigue great let's keep doing it but then there's a critical mass where it's almost like Hebrews 5 8 kicks in and it's like I'm learning obedience through suffering things are being re-metabolized it's being alchemized it's like every time I have this situation happen in my life I'm going deeper in God and then they start going well this is not getting us what we want when we touch this person they stand up and share the gospel so through game theory and just intelligence they start going like this is probably not a good move it's a waste of resources they can't afford to waste those resources and it hurts them yes because Satan and like God does not have the same number of resources you only remember he only left one third of the angels God left the man with two thirds plus his own divine intelligence and his omniscience, he can't even compete. So when he does, he learns to wait. That's why Jesus said resist. You know the scripture for what he just said? Resist the devil because at a critical mass, he'll flee from you when it's not profitable. But when you show him that every slap is profitable to taking you out, he'll slap you some more. Because he knows it's profitable to take you out. Well, there's levels to that too. Yes. Because something can be not profitable but not dangerous. Yes. So that's when I was in April, there was demonic stuff coming against me financially. Yes. And I just got frustrated one day. You know what? Forget this. Every time I see something that costs me money that should not be, I'm finding a missionary and I'm giving $1,000, $2,000, whatever. Wow. It stopped in like a day and a half. because all of a sudden it was like this is no longer not profitable this is compromising other assignments that we have to mess with over here it's becoming destructive the same thing it was like every time I have a bad dream how do we inflict damage on you gotta be a little bit crazy to do that you just look like a mad bomb you must come and teach that to my I wonder if in the spirit world I look like a kamikaze pilot We're just like We don't know what he's going to do So we should just probably Not touch him This is so good Isn't that crazy It works I love it It is so good Anyways Are you good on dreams Can we talk about I don't know where you're going, but I drink a lot of water between the breaks. Okay. Why don't you just go and I'll keep going. Bath and break? Yeah, that's fine. That's fine. Unless you need to take a break. No, I don't. Okay. Can we talk about, I know where I want to end, but before we get there, can we talk about the law of honor? Yes. Because you've mentioned the African culture of honor and the downsides of that. We have that in America too. Yes. Touch not my anointed, whatever. and it really has hurt a lot of people. But there is the law of honor, which is what governs favor and blessing and relationships. What's the line here? How does this law work? And can you idolize it, like what it sounds like has happened in certain cultures? Okay. So the law of honor in the kingdom is based on the premise that you find in the it's based on the premise of another law of the kingdom that allows exchange to happen between men and women who may have different levels of ranking within the economy or the authority structure of the kingdom, which also includes God himself being at the top of that pyramid. It is what happens when Abraham meets Melchizedek in the valley of Shaveh. But when it's reported in the book of Hebrews, the writer says, without any contradiction, the lesser is blessed by the better. This is a principle that inculcates itself into the law of honor after a fact. Because this is the principle that points to the law of honor. Why the law of honor has veridity of merit. Okay? So the lesser is blessed by the better. What does it mean? It means, before I explain what it means, Let's ask the question Who was the lesser, who was the better The better was Melchizedek He outranked Abraham By any stretch of the imagination Especially being that The incarnate son of God We can go into all those elements In briefs, you know, that he was A theothany of Jesus You know, coming to Indoctrinate, synchronic Abraham So that he could come through his lineage All of that being there But what is clear Is it definitely spiritually Outranks Abraham As a priest of God Messiah But Abraham on the other hand Is also not a nobody But is not equal to Melchizedek That's important Because you don't understand the law of honor properly If you don't understand The principle that points to it Okay the lesser, the better is only the better in the equation is because he has a lot to provide. He's not a better in terms of what we see today where the better acts entitled and even elitist because there's no elitism in God because God's nature is giving 100% giving so when God comes to you he's thinking how can I give to Taylor? He's a giver, he can't help himself like how can I love, how best way can I love Taylor today? Because God is love and what does love do? It gives and celebrates giving so so that statement, the lesser is blessed by the better, the better must not be understood in the context of the way we think with our fallen nature, oh I'm better, no the better is the better could be better said the better positioned so Melchizedek was better positioned in the economy of glory to be a blessing to the lesser so now the lesser gets the benefit the benefit of that difference in stature in glory and in resources but How does the lesser respond To that generosity Honor So honor then Is coming from a response That you've made the better So You know why we honor Jesus Because when he comes You knew how you were but he came as a better position to do what? introduce you to your father introduce you to yourself introduce you to your nature he was better positioned to deal with your fears he was better positioned to heal you he was better positioned to reconcile with God so Jesus is the better in a meeting between you and him but it's not a better to dominate you frustrate you make you look like you're a rat because he's also up there and you better beg because you have to honor the man of God no Jesus is better because he's better positioned to give you everything you've needed to become you to the glory of God and your response in recognizing how your life has been shaped, changed, blessed by the better, is to honor. Who cannot honor that? That's where the law of honor comes from. So when God says, Honor your mother and father, that it may go well with you. What is he talking about? He said, listen, when it comes to a child, Jake is about to be a father The wife is pregnant And soon they'll be welcoming This beautiful brand new blessing When it happens you better tell me man I'm going to drive to Tennessee man I have to greet the child man Oh yes you do You'll have a dream about it right before that You know what's this now He's about to be that So When that child comes out Who's better positioned To feed the child take care of the child to teach the child defend the child the parents so then how can that child react in dishonor that's why he says if you dishonor your mother and father you are done this economy doesn't have a support system for that spirit as a matter of fact the economy of glory is against that spirit so much so we would rather you die early than live long than for us to be looking so God would rather so in the era of honor it's the only area where God will actually sponsor your premature death it's only in the era of honor where God himself will sponsor your premature death because he hates that spirit of dishonor because he he topos the principle by which blessings go up and down The better. So that's why. In a. Now when you understand that principle. The better versus the lesser. Then you start finding. There's another second level of honor. Which is. Where honor becomes dynamic. Is what I mean. This. When the Bible says. Honor one another. It becomes dynamic. Because God is saying. while there's a level where the better and the lesser never change, like between you and your father, the lesser always, in terms of that relationship, you always be there, there will always be the better, better position for a lot of things, and you're the lesser, and you owe them a debt of gratitude to honor. Okay? At that level. But my own father, whom I honor to the day died, began to call me pastor. I became his pastor. How does a son become a pastor? Because honor is dynamic. In a realm where I was the better positioned to teach him the word, he did not know. Despite that he's my father, he did not know what I knew. God assured me a lot. And the boy began to read my book, he said, ah, Pastor Francis, ah, Pastor Francis, the things God shows you, you know how many times I've studied, can you teach me, my father? Honor changed. It's dynamic. I was the better. He was the lesser. So he honored me and called me pastor. Even though he knew he was my father. But when he was calling me pastor, I knew exactly what he's saying to me. Teach me. But when he says Francis, I know the father is back. Father is back. Don't do that Francis. And it could be one conversation. You can go from Francis, uh-uh, don't do that. I said, okay, my father is back. And in that position, I quickly do a Michael Jackson. You know, they know the Michael Jackson. Walk it back. Moonwalk. Walk it back into where I did. Okay, now the relationships changed. Pastor is on hold for now. We're back to son and father. So he's the better. I'm the lesser. I got a honor. If you think that, but when America, and now Africa has destroyed this. Africa has a natural culture of honor That sometimes borderline Can be borderline stupid Let me be honest You know It is the I don't know what that looks like to be honest I don't actually know Oh man Because we are such a Let me tell you how Africa is You know It is such a place of honor For adults Fathers, mothers Bishop, people Anybody in authority That When I was growing up My mother called me once She said sit here And she pointed to a stranger In America Walking around Do you see that woman? Yeah What do you see? I said mom she's a woman I don't know She's some strange woman I don't even know Why are you showing me to her? Does she look my age? look at my face I said yes then that's your mother that woman I don't know her Francis that's your mother so what do you mean says if I ever find you pointing a finger at a woman like that of that age and above I will tell your father and you know him he will beat you up because if he can do that to that woman who looks like me what's the difference because we are all your mothers so it's a different it's foreign to the west and sure enough every child of Africa will be locked down on that so when they meet a rural woman that's why now in Africa there are many fathers many mothers everywhere because I can meet a guy at a hospital if I just look at him oh he looks like my father or my grandmother the age I would say you know in Zamban I'm going to say it in my language you know he's a stranger I just met him and he's passing me by and I say and he'll say here's what it means my father how are you I don't know the guy that looks like my dad and he says my son God be with you thank you I'll never meet him again but if my father was behind me and I didn't greet him like that he'll blame himself to say what kind of child are we raising I think that was your father you just passed and the way you talked to him I feel embarrassed having done a good job that's your father and you talk with your own hey now here's the problem when you take that into spirituality and then man of God we put the anointing on it the glory on it it can become confusing for Africans if they are not careful the lines become blurry that's why African bishops can do can do things that, like for instance there was a movement that the African government had to get involved in South Africa of the prophetic movement, again it creeped into the African's deep culture and desire to honor their leaders where prophets say God is saying by the spirit of God if you believe I'm the prophet of God eat the grass and you see what God will do with that grass as you eat it this is real video I saw it at a meeting of the African Council of Apostles I was Bishop Tudor Bismarck many believe that I'm watching this and literally men who came driving Mercedes Benz are only afloat eating grass because of a young man who is their prophet and is only 25 and the man who is eating grass is 55 but he's doing it because he wants to honor the prophet our man of God has spoken you see that's why I wanted to explain the principle of the less and the better that the better is not elitism is that he's more he's better positioned to do right by you when you understand that then the principle of honor becomes very easy to accept and then once it's done it's a life giving force because the church desperately does need is the return of the Lord's culture of honor. It's a very different culture of honor than what is what you're talking about and what's in some of the establishments even in the West. Yes. Which people are afraid they view speaking truth to certain things as dishonoring when in fact if somebody is not better positioned to help then it's not, there's no honor due. Exactly. That's fascinating. clears up a lot. You good? Good. I need to re-watch that part back. Yeah, I've got a few I've got a few There's a lot more I need to watch back actually from being honest. Yeah. We don't get the luxury of pausing midway through. But I would like you to ask me a question since you touched on authors. Since we started it would be nice if we ended with authors. Do it. And this question I'm going to but it will really make it interesting as an end which and the question I think you should ask me is based upon my last book The Way of the Otter which is Dr. Maus in your book The Way of the Otter you talk about the four legs of the table of divine encounter the table of the divine encounter the table of divine encounter says in your book you talk about the four legs that make up the table of divine encounter that makes glory fire, God movements predictable can you just tell us about it? yes I will I'll just tell you about it it would be nice if it was conversation if you ask me about it but if you just want me to go into it let's just go into it alright you know So, you know, recently I found myself asking God. I said, Lord, if glory is what we were meant to project and live in. It is clear that Adam and Eve were not naked always. They lost something. And I know they lost the covering of the glory. That's why they began to look for a different type of clothing. Because for the first time they felt naked. Having fallen short of the glory. And then the Bible talks about, Jesus talks about his desire. He said the glory that we once had with you, may you share it with them. So it's like what seems to be the preeminent cry of the Godhead through scripture. Is that they want us to share in their glory. So glory seems to be the fix, the arrival, the return of the sons of God. If they had commented with glory again. Making glory the most priceless product of the divine. Because it says, it signifies a complete return to sonship. And the garments of glory upon us. And I said, Lord, if glory is that important, by what the Bible says, in the last days the glory of the Lord shall cover the earth. as water covered the sea. Glory is what you are trying to give to us. Why not make it predictable? How to get it? How to live in it? Because if it's a product that's important, then God, I want it to be predictable. Because models that are not predictable cannot even be unscalable. Anything not predictable is not scalable. And once you can scale, the market penetration becomes different the product delivery becomes different the experience we have becomes different if it's haphazard is it real or is it selective to certain people just get blessed that they saw God and then for the next 1000 years the rest of us are just bumping into trees, don't know where God is and then, but there's an occasion oh, but there was Moses he saw God but we haven't seen that sighting for 4000 years there might be another one who shows up. You know, but in the meantime, they keep searching the grass. Where is God? Where is his glory? He said, God, it can't be like that. If this is what you want, then you have found a way to make it predictable. And he said to me, Bingo. I have made it predictable. And I have martyrs. It is so important to me, I raise martyrs. And those models, I wrote about them. So that generations after, who are tired of the Christian experience, being an ethereal, unpredictable dance to something predictable, and find them. And I said, Lord, what is that? What is that? He said, there is a way. And he said to me, you know it already, but you just haven't put all the pieces together because you've never asked this question. It's called the well of the altar. The way of the altar. He said, yeah. The well of the altar. and he said to me it has four legs and these four legs never change with time because they are designed to be as predictable as every promise of God he says those four legs form a table that table is where we can do business that makes glory, fire anything you want predictable because I never wanted this to be predictable I wanted to make it so predictable you can live on it and you can pass it on to your descendants otherwise if it's unpredictable and you can pass it to your descendants I'll be lost to your descendants after you there'll be no way to predict how I'm going to meet with them because you didn't know either So he said to me, write down the four legs. And that's where my whole thing came. And I wrote the Battle of Otters before, but this book, The Will of the Otter, brought me, in the deep end. This is your program. It brought me in the deep end of otters. I thought I knew otters, but this one brought me into the deep end. What are the four legs? I personalized it. Four legs. He said, this table has four legs. the first leg is the human attendant draw the table so you can see it I want to visualize it he said first leg write it down second leg third leg fourth leg fourth leg the instruction I said explain they are all connected You can't predict glory. You can't have continuity if any of the legs is missing. The table will not hold. So think of a three-legged table. And you put too much weight on one side. What's going to happen to the table? It will flip. For the missing of just one leg. Hit the legs. Says every man I've ever used, you talk about Abraham, Isaac, they all built those four legs. You just haven't seen it. But it's all in front of you. Oh man, Taylor came alive when I started seeing the legs. Everywhere. You see the legs? You see the legs? I said, who doesn't have the legs? They had the table. They were working from that table. When I went from that table, we write history together again. And stuff that you read will be predictable. Number one, very quickly, just to wrap it up. There's the first leg. He's a human attendant. he is the most important leg of the table of divine encounter because he is the beneficiary he is both the leg and the beneficiary of the outcome of the table so he must start first that's why sometimes I take time building that leg because the attendant has to work with me to build all the legs. But at the end of the journey, he's the beneficiary of the table. So the attendant, what kind of person is he? Is he going to give in? Is he going to give up? Is he going to let go of stuff? Is he going to, how long is, am I going to have to fight him all his life just to obey? What's going to happen? So he takes that. Once that tango is done, he said to me, so that one, number two, he said the altar. Why is the altar the second leg? He says, because when I have an attendant, then an altar can be raised. Because an altar never raises itself, it must be raised by the attendant who wants to attend to me at the altar. So, the man raises the altar now. But, that's not enough. Because, how, how, how does he know? that I'm the God behind the altar is raised, until my spirit shows up. And why does my spirit show up at the altar to consecrate it? Because I can't be my altar if I've never appeared there. So the man has to wait by faith. This is a faith walk between the two. But it becomes a supernatural walk. once the spirit comes and hears his voice. He comes on the altar to consecrate the altar and to consecrate the man but it also comes for something else. We instruct the man. Because when the spirit when the third leg of the table comes together all I am to the man is not God. What do you mean? he said I can't be God until I've been the supervising spirit he said how can I be God intellectually I know I'm God but how am I your God if I've never supervised you what's my proof so I come as a supervising spirit so I come to the altar to supervise how this is going to go from now onwards. And then therefore, to build the fourth leg, which is a critical step of the altar, give an instruction. Move from the land of the Chaldeans to a land I will never show you. If he stays, I remain the supervising spirit and the journey ends there. Operability because we failed. The experiment failed. This is my ecosystem. This is what has happened. human history. Many men I wanted to use. I couldn't get to the fourth leg of the throne. It's the most difficult one to build. The instruction. Because human's nature is rotten with disobedience. But there have been men who have moved past that leg and built it. And Abraham didn't know where he was going. But he said, yes. At that moment, I became something else. The instruction transforms the supervising spirit into the God behind your altar. When he becomes the God behind your altar, when he becomes combative to all your enemies, that's when you can say, David, you come with javelin, with sword, I come with the name of the Lord. David had built the table before he showed up. So you know what's going to happen to that guy? Don't even need a sword, my stone, because I'm not the one you're fighting. He's already become the god of my altar. He's been supervising me. He supervised me to kill a bear. He supervised me to kill a lion. He was not talking about his accolades. He was talking about what he was supervised to do that a man could not do who was as little as David. But I was supervising how to kill a bear. I was supervising how to kill a bear. He was supervising me and how to kill you is the God behind my altar. And you have defied the God of Israel. It goes over. As you build that and you always think of that mentally, you're always going to know when you are stuck. Once you're off the table, you're going to know where you are stuck. And all you have to do is fix the leg where you're stuck. That's the will of you. That's pretty epic. and that book is out now it's on Amazon and it's on my website right go check it out we're going to wrap thank you Dr. Francis for being here thank you we'll get the next one so it's fun to go in the deep end we got longer this time than we did last time thank God dude I'm going to have to watch this again actually thank you thank you so much we love you guys see you in the comments