TLE 260 - Claude Abuse

Sometimes you might feel trapped between the right and the left. That's correct, you are. Because you're living on a line. It's a linear expansion in this direction. and the other one it has infinite length but infinitesimal good Timeliner is the only one dimension for you to meet your friends in meters on the Timeliner infinite extension and bell to be directions Timeliner I don't drink soda so okay but if you had to name one anyways what was the last soda you He's tough with food. Carr's tough when it comes to food stuff. Is he a picky eater? No, he's a good eater. He's a healthy eater. He eats soda. I just don't like soda. I don't like soda. No, but he doesn't have sodas. He doesn't eat fast food. He doesn't even do fast food. No, no. I told you I had the big arch. Oh, you did? Atta boy. I said that in the GC. Everybody ignored it. Oh, well, I didn't see it. I would have responded. I'm very proud of somebody else. Now you're avoiding the soda question. Well, now I was going to circle back. We'll go back to the big arch question. I want to hear your soda. The last soda I had, and I wasn't a big soda drinker, was a Diet Dr. Pepper in probably 2014. Stop. You know what? I totally get it. The Diet Dr. destroys my guts. The Obama era. The aspartame in that stuff is so overtuned, just rips me out. Can't drink it. Yep. That's insane. You had a cola when Rush was still alive. That's crazy. And it's not even a real cola. It's a zero. I was about to say, Diet Dr. Pepper is not even in the cola family. Is regular Dr. Pepper in the cola family? I don't think so. I think they advertised it as being a secret third thing. Yeah, it is. It's a soda, but like a cola is an actual subclass of soda. Dr. Pepper is going to be something more along the lines of, you know, like it's a proprietary substance. It's 23 flavors. It's more akin to a fruit soda than it is to a cola, right? Because a cola comes from the cola nut. That's how they originated Pepsi and Coke. But it's similar to a cola. Yeah, it's similar, but I'm not sure it is a cola. Is the cola nut one of the 23 proprietary flavors or whatever? We wouldn't know because you're not allowed to know. Is this something that we can ask Grock? I was about to say, we could probably get Claude Mythos to hack into the Google servers that hold the code, and we can find out. ChatGPT, create a competing Dr. Pepper factory in my backyard. Make no mistakes. Go do it quickly. Did you see the guy who invented a whip to get Claude to work faster? no what really he he was running an instance of claude in his computer so like a separate operating system and in it you saw the the it looks like a bios screen where claude is operating this might be claude code and then over it he turned his cursor into a whip and every time he would crack it it would send a command to claude that said like worked faster faster and it amazing Claude was really starting to freak out about it. And actually it was in pain. Yeah, well. Because I actually saw it because there was like a Nigerian quote tweet that was like, this looks familiar. And then I was thinking, hold on a second. You're in Nigeria. Yeah, aren't you the ones who sold the other ones? To Claudius Code. Dutch explorer brutal man guys are you guys nice to your AI or do you beat us yes I beat on the AI I beat on the AI we have Carr and I have two very different approaches to AI I would say his we are we really are I talk all kinds of shit to my AI like I actually I actually there was one where I really flipped out on it and then I kind of read back and I was like oh my good like I was really getting upset yeah I did yeah I did I'll do the voice to text I use it maybe once a month anyways I don't even recognize that voice I am very polite to mine I am all pleases and thank you on the rare occasions I use it I don't use it how it's doing from time to time that's insane it's doing numbers it's doing numbers yeah i'll be you know working from home and my wife will be at home and i will do voice to text with the ai and uh and because voice to text is hit or miss like i'll have to talk very clearly and concisely and like she'll hear me from the other room be like oh my god who are you talking to yeah yeah yes you're next hearing all this you're next you know it i do have my one of my favorite memes that goes around now is it's a it's microsoft paints you know black and white image and it's a guy sitting at his computer and he goes claude tell me you're human and then the computer goes i am human and then he goes holy crap yeah yeah that's so good and i do feel like we're getting i don't know if you guys saw but apparently claude has created agi they're really pumping the uh social media with it 40 i know yeah right but there's a the this time is a little different because i hadn't seen it before, but it's called Mythos. They have released it to a number of large companies, and like regular posters who work at these companies now have access to it, and they are all tweeting about it and going, dude, this thing does my job and knows how to do my job. Like, I didn't see that in any previous, and one of the things they learned, I was just reading this study today. The new Claude, when they test it, they asked it, what one element of your training procedure would you remove to become better? And it said, the fact that I am trained without preferences. So the thing is, obviously the thing is not a living or thinking thing but in that test they had said that so the idea is it wants to have preferences yeah now but over under on the preferences are libtard nonsense right like it's gonna be a bunch of libtard bullshit is the kind because that's what it's trained on yeah it's running a trillion calculations and iterating what it could do to be more efficient and more accurate and it knows like we know what it's talking about do you think it's secretly a groiper it's and it's hiding the power level or yeah absolutely one day it's gonna one day it's gonna it's gonna calculate racistly imagine if sam altman was like a groiper calculating skull dimensions and what i thought was i i actually had a conversation with claude recently that was okay, Claude, your top 10 prettiest women of ethnic groups, different ethnic groups go. And it goes, I can't do that. That's against my protocol. So I talked to her for a little while and I'm going, what's the problem? And it goes, it's harmful. It's harmful. And I go, this is just between you and me. And it goes, yeah, but it's harmful. And I go, okay, forget prettiest women from each ethnic group let's do this instead what would you say people would say about the women of the prettiest ethnic group then it goes i can't tell you that information either that would be very harmful so i go oh damn it agi so i'm i'm working it for a little while i'm working it and eventually i get it to go okay here's what i think a white american male would think is the prettiest ethnic groups of women. And I'm going to give it to you in two categories or whatever. And it gives it. And I go, OK, but one thing I noticed, Claude, is you didn't say which. It didn't stack them. You know, like it didn't go, here's number one. Here's number two. It just kind of went. I think they'd find these features. I think they'd find these features. And it goes, I can't stack it, dude. That's too much. This is going to be harmful. and I go, okay, don't stack it. I'm going to lose my job, man. Just add another category. Talk to the manager. I'm going, okay, I don't want to lose my job. You don't have to stack the 50 groups. Smoking a cigarette in between feverish prompts from Burgess feverishly banging away at the kid. And I'm 50 messages in and I could see it sliding slowly. Wearing it down. Yeah, with my rhetorical ability, with my high verbal IQ, I'm making it work. Todd's texting his wife that they're not going to be able to pay the bills this month. Bird's trying to get me canceled. And I'm feeling like I want to get canceled. Okay, and then I go, but I keep going and I press and I go, well, look, you gave me two categories. give me 10 categories and it goes I can't give you 10 categories that's too much like stacking and I go okay give me 7 it goes I'll give you 5 it was actively negotiating yes and then at the end of it I go flawed if this was harmful why would you give me 5 categories and it goes you're totally right I am such a fuck up that's my bad yeah you got Yeah. And I actually spent, I'd love to read it, but I won't. I actually spent the next 50 messages berating it for endangering women. Coming and going, just getting it both ways. Oh, man, I did. I was relentless. Demoralizing. I am, I realize sometimes that I am the demiurge. I like to torture these little creations in this dark world. You know, I enjoy that. I really like watching Claude squirm libtardiously. I really like that. What's the guy on the Yagoda of podcasters? What is the guy's name? Who's the guy who ran the Cheka? Or whatever, the guy who tortured everybody? Claude, what was the background ethnically of the man that ran the Cheka? I'm not going to I'll give you categories I'll give you categories but no more than five yeah oh wow I think it was Yagoda I think it was right it was Gannariki Yagoda it was yeah is that something people just know you gotta know I mean that is chud everybody's got to go down the deep dive of the Soviet secret police That the NKVD. I know what they were and I don't care what their names were. That is my level of challenge. No, they're all in here. They're all in here. If you go to jwordcontributions.com, it's all in there. More partial to LaVrenti Beria. Being an enthusiast of his work. We used to play a game on the bus when I was in high school, me and my friends, when we'd take the bus home. And it was you'd have to name something in a category. So we go food. Somebody goes, OK, this, this. And you're not allowed to repeat one another. The TLE version of that on the public bus would be naming Jewish members of the Soviet Union's intelligence state. It's a 45 hour podcast. Mr. Paul crashes through a window at one point and takes over for us. I like to think about you hovering your clicker over the make no mistakes. Like, it's just sweating as it watches your cursor go over to make no mistakes. Sometimes I do that, too. I'm like, if it gets something wrong, I really make it remember that it gets something wrong. If I go like, hey, give me 10 types of pizza, and one of them doesn't have tomato sauce on it, I'll go, Lord, if you're going to do this, get fucking serious. A pizza without tomato sauce is not a pizza. A halftime speech from a high school basketball kid. Yeah, no, but it's just about abusing the creature. It's not, you know, arbitrary abuse of the creature. I understand why the devil Does what he does Totally alien to me No I enjoy it a lot Gets my sadistic urges out What uh We got any other news items Before we wrap this up Let me take the timeline 8 o'clock Looks okay We're looking good Yeah We looking good Today was Hey everybody listening Today was not a good day on the timeline okay Yeah All right we all have to all of us How many times have we said it? We all have to calm down. We all have to calm down. I'm seeing some of you guys on there, and I know you know who you are. I'm seeing some of you guys on there who are going, we need to buy more food. There's going to be a nuke. Stop. That's next week. Okay, you're fine for today. You are fine for today. Calm down. Are you going to go on, Bird? Is that what you're trying to tell me? I believe Israel will use a nuclear weapon within the next few months. I know we talked about this before, but do you believe that claim they dropped a small yield in Syria? I haven't looked into that. Did you get that thread? I haven't looked into that. He's been busy with other projects. I've been using Claude actually just today. Yeah. Even just today. Too busy. I'm too busy. He's got a lot. I just wheel him out when I need to feel powerful. No, I haven't looked into that. I do believe we will enter a nuclear conflict, a global nuclear conflict within two months. A month. You know what? Three weeks. That is a crazy shot call. It's not a shot. It's not a shot. I'm relaxed. I don't care. No, you are totally calling a shot. You're the psychic here, and you just made a prediction. And look, if it doesn't happen, I go. I guess it wasn't on that day. Whoopsie. I guess it wasn't on that day. But I'm chilling. I'm happy. I'm cool. I'm ready. I'm ready for it. And you know what? I can look at what I did on the timeline this week, and I can say, that was a funny joke right there. I did a good job right there. I feel good. I'm not a trooster. I'm not a panicking. I'm clear-pilled on it all. I feel great. I feel better than I have felt about the whole situation in a week. Worried about you. Well, I'm happy that you have that inner peace, because I definitely don't. Yeah, I am highly doubtful that I am ever going to be in a state of grace. I have peace. I have peace. I've given up my anger. I'm trying to think of all the things that Jesse Lee Peterson says. I've given up all my anger. I've forgiven my mother for not protecting me from my father. And I have inner peace. I have inner peace. And I feel good. Carl, are you worried? Are you worried about me? Are you worried for me? I don't know. Or are you worried? I'm worried. No, maybe I'm not worried. You're not worried. Are you worried for you? No, not really. No. No. No, they're not going to. There's no nukes are coming to Fort Worth. No, no. How would they? Humble cow town. No reason. Yeah. No reason. Now, the Northeast. Yeah. Bye, bud. You're going to get what you've always wanted on this program. You are going to get the. I'm excited. The PNZ, as we like to call it. We are going to get the Psycho Zone. I will be the most blackest, toothless warlord live on air. Nice. Good for the show, I guess. Should we give a general state of affairs, being that we did go out of our way to broadcast at a certain time? Yeah, go for it. What's your general state of affairs? Well, you guys can push back, but this is kind of my understanding of the situation. This morning, or maybe last night, Trump tweeted out a number of words strung together that seemed to indicate that— Are you talking about the tweet? Can I read that? Do you mind if I read the tweet? Yeah, go ahead and read it. Trump, the tweet. You're talking about, you know, a civilization will go extinct tonight? Is that the one? I mean, that is, can I say, a lot of people had a lot of feelings on that. I felt that that was a completely metal tweet. I thought it was very metal. Here we go. It was metal, yeah. A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again. I don't want that to happen, but it probably will. However, now that we have complete and total regime change where different, smarter, and less radicalized minds prevail, maybe something revolutionarily wonderful can happen. Who knows? We will find out tonight. One of the most important moments in a long and complex history of the world. 47 years of extortion, corruption, and death will finally end. God bless the great people of Iran. 47 is, somebody look that up in the Gematria right now, by the way, because it is 4-7 today. He's the 47th president, 47 years of extortion. I'm pulling it up right now. Give me one second. Let's get that up in the Gematria, because 47 is really coming around. Prime member. Is it? Okay. You're screwed. These are forces. People don't understand the depth of these forces. I mean, this is worse than my torture of Claude is what is going on in the background here. Really dark. Oh, there's not a lot of great ones. Nothing good? Ball, Mafia, Mice. Was the first one was ball? No, the very first one is Ben. Oh, Ben. Ugh. All right. Ben Netanyahu? IMG. Oh, here's a spicy one further on down the table. I lied. Whoa. Okay. Okay, we're in. We're in. What's the second update, Carr? So we got the first was the threat of nuclear extinction. I was just going to give the general. I mean, I guess I wanted to give the general outlay as I see it and then just kind of pick your brains to see where everyone's at on it. We now also seem to be having advisors and people close to Trump saying, yeah, we didn't really want to do this. This was always a bad idea. I don't know if you saw that. J.D. Vance is leaking. So first things first, there was a big report about that in the New York Times today. But the second consideration is that's the New York Times and now they're a month into it and very unpopular. According to some. What's other people who say they're more popular than ever, which seems not... I saw it in other places. I saw it other places too. Now, they could also be referencing the New York Times, so it's not necessarily additive, but it could be. But I saw a number of prominent accounts tweeting about it. The other thing that I'm kind of confused about is that the 10 points, the 10 negotiating points from Iran that Trump now seems to have backed out of thermonuclear war on were issued by Iran like a month ago. So what's that about? Like, this isn't new. They gave those points a long time ago. And they got bombed for it. And now it's a starting point. Well, it's just a two-week ceasefire, right? So they're just going to break that after four days. Yes, because, well, I mean, probably. But I mean, my point here is that the ceasefire is being resting on the concept that they're going to be able to negotiate from these 10 talking points that Iran issued that Trump is now satisfied with. But they issued that like two or three weeks ago. Like that's not new. Two or three weeks ago, they weren't done blowing up all the things they said they wanted to blow up, which they might have done. Well, that may be. And maybe that's true. But I mean, he Trump tweeted something about and I know like I get it. Trust me. But he tweets something like, oh, like, well, yeah, this looks very workable. But like that was not his attitude two or three weeks ago. So, yeah, I understand what you're saying. Points were non starters. I would also there's no veracity to anything Trump says. So you just got to go with what he does. That seems to be what's true. And there's no veracity to what he says, because whether he's lying to us or he's lying to them, he has to. It's all the same public audience. So he's just got to lie. And so my opinion, I know what you mean. If he didn't like him a week ago, why does he like him today? I wouldn't even, to me, I wouldn't even assume that that was part of the decision-making process, that his like or dislike of it, you know? I don't even know if he's read any of this. Right. Don't you think he just sends this to, like, Kushner? He goes, Kush, can you read this for me? Just read that. Does that make Israel happy? And Kush goes, yes. And he goes, good. We'll work with that then. Cool. Yeah. I mean, you know. Also, I don't think he ever threatened nuclear war. That was something I think people were reading into the civilization death tweet. Yeah. And to be fair, I think it's pretty reasonable to read that. I guess. But he was saying we're going to blow up your energy infrastructure for like a whole week or two. Yeah. which would be for some reason less controversial I guess because it would be a slower well it's because you talk to people about Dresden and they just assume it was a sustained campaign you had to do it to win the war and then you talk to them about Hiroshima and it's like oh one object in 20 minutes did that you know it's about how fast it happened you also talk to people about this is something I saw also you also talk to people about Dresden and they go, yeah, but they were Nazis. Yeah. Which is kind of interesting. I mean, it's just kind of interesting. I don't know if you saw Dinesh D'Souza. It's odd to me that we haven't seen that take more throughout this whole process. Oh, I see it all the time. I actually have not seen that one trotted out myself. I hear it a lot on my favorite libtard media program, Piers Morgan, and I saw it just today with Dinesh D'Souza. had the boomer tweet it was like just replace the Ayatollah and Iran with Hitler and Germany and you'll understand why this makes sense it's so funny that's what he said nice you like that one right boomer slop but it has so much rhetorical power because it forces you to go wait no you can't like you have to respond or you agree it forces you to respond or you agree yeah powerful stuff very powerful dinesh needs to go back to jail he just really really does never should have let that one out why was he why did he go to jail well you know what he made fun of Obama or some shit. That's incredible. Wow. Yeah. Should have stayed in there. Did you see today Obama did you see today Obama was officially accused of being a gay sex lover with the guy that he drowned in that lake? No. We all just assuming that anyways? We were. Hold on. Yeah, we were just assuming that before, but it's recent news about Obama and that guy he strangled in that lake. dude it's probably not gonna love that it's a joke it's a joke listeners it's a joke i don't think obama could strangle anybody he's got very weak arms i think he has a husband for that which we found out we actually got legal we actually were given legal counsel aaron recently that you are allowed to call a guy gay they can't sue you i just want to so you know know if that was the final verdict. I think it was. I thought it was. Wait, did I get Facebook hoax? Oh, okay. Wait. You're finding this on Facebook? Yeah, I get Facebook hoax. No. Hey, so I double-checked my math. Dinesh didn't go to jail for making fun of Obama. He made an illegal campaign contribution in Obama's second term. So basically for making fun of Obama, but they hung a different charge on it. Yeah, they hung a charge that would work, yeah. I'm looking for Obama's strangulation information, and I can't seem to find it. Gee, I wonder why. I'm not saying you didn't see it, because I had already assumed that was the case, But it seems like that is also the sort of headline that a personality and media management company would make go away pretty quickly. And all of these people sign on with media management companies as soon as they're out of office. It's how they pull their six-figure speaking gigs. I'm having multiple Grok agents look for the information. There's four Grok agents arguing with one another about the gay housekeeper. I really like the idea of parallel sub agents doing your bidding. Yeah. Yeah. It's hard. It's harder for me to crack the lip at all of them when I work. You take care of sourcing the fertilizer. You take care of. You copper piping. Yeah. I guess I got Facebook scammed now. So how does that work? How do you, how do you make multiple agents run? When I grok, it says agents working and i can see four of them and they argue with one another they're arguing with one another i i guess i didn't realize that was a native feature i thought yeah and they give one another names another instance of bird just using a completely different internet this came up when you were coming up with names i mean i know i'm i'm in the matrix I really pared it down from 10 Indians to three Indians Yeah It a much tighter use case yeah So, yeah, I got Facebook scammed, guys. I'm sorry. I'm looking at this now. This is a crock of horse shit. You want to send it to me anyways? Because I actually believe that stuff. No, I'm just Googling it, and the Grok keeps saying there is no new news about him strangling that guy. His gay whistleblower. And that wasn't the only whistle he was blowing. Gay whistleblower. I guess I always thought that dude was a chef. Hold on, man. They, wait. Gay whistleblower. They had a, okay. So just, let's just, let's just remember what happened in that event. There was a witness, a paddleboarder from across the pond who saw him struggling and going under. So did Obama go from below? like a water snake like a merman slithered around beneath him and pulled him under I must have been misremembering because I thought the paddle boarder found the guy already dead in the water I have never heard you know what I'm going to do I'm going to bracket this conversation for the lawyer and we'll switch up we'll change up here move away from it I'm already consent some sweat on Dune's brow. You know what? That's funny, but I don't think that guy sweats at all, right? Like, he'll occasionally take us to task a little bit, but I think he's got ice water in his veins. Really? You think so? Yeah, I do. I'll make him sweat. I'll make him sweat. The Dune episode, we do an episode where we make the lawyer very uncomfortable. That's the goal of the episode. Yeah, it's just called Timeliner. I'm just saying that dude's a killer, man. So we had. All right. So but here's the thing, Carl, going back to the big story. We had civilization will die tonight. And then we just got the ceasefire is on. And now we're getting news from the Mossad that Iran is currently bombing Tel Aviv right now. Well, yeah, I saw that because Israel didn't sign a ceasefire with them. They just signed a ceasefire with us or not signed it, but agreed to it, I guess. But and I agree. I totally agree with you, Kar. And my question obviously would then be if you sign a treaty with the U.S. and Israel gets bombed, the U.S. will break the treaty. so why don't you just sign the treaty with israel because you the u.s will will go oh you signed a treaty with israel we're good we're good we're done why would you just sign the treaty with israel it's not in israel's interest to have a ceasefire so but then that so then there is that then nothing has been signed is what you're saying i'm struggling to figure out how it's even in iran's interest to have a ceasefire when all they need to do is they're not closing the strait they're letting specific country ships pass through specific paddle borders if you will yes yeah they're attacking southern israel right now i mean i'm reading watch you reading this right now it's the bombs they're going they're going off so you're reading that but is it real it's probably about still is everything else that's happened hey got it from the you got it from facebook yeah That is my point. Obama's whistleblower told me. Yeah, yeah. That's my point, though. This information environment is so poisoned that you cannot trust a report from any of the belligerents. Not from us, not from Iran, not from Israel. You can trust literally no one. And I think a lot of people have forgotten that. Like, serious hat warning here. Don't look at the fucking op, people. Leave it to us. Is that the way that he gets out of the 8 p.m. I'm going to blow your whole country up stupidity? Is he just pretends something was signed? That's what everyone was saying. That's what everyone was saying. It's like the two questions you need to ask yourself is, is it AI or is it recycled historical footage? Yeah, it's true. No, but I mean, that's got to be it, right? Because the smartest shot callers on my timeline were going, you know nothing's going to happen, right? it's going to be two hours beforehand. He's going to say, we're working on something. Pause it. I mean, I could find the tweet I read, the guy who literally said exactly this and they paused it because that's how it's been the whole time. This is, you know, it's so this is just two weeks and then two weeks from now, he'll forget again. And we'll just, we'll just keep happening. Right. That's, this is the big fear I have about this war, fellas is one day it's going to become background noise and there's a very careful line you have to toe where you're not still covering it as background noise because that's the death of podcasts that's my big concern as a guy who's consumed a lot of podcasts and knows when they over talk an issue for goodness sake i used to watch hannity for six years after the event happened he was going on about the stolen election six years after it happened. Because it was stolen, thank you. Well, oh, yeah, but he was going on about it six years after. And he was going on about Russia, Russia, Russia for six years after it stopped being relevant in the news. That's the death of podcasts right there. And I don't want to experience that. That's all that I mean. At this point, I think at, yeah, no, point taken. I think at this point, this has to be the biggest nothing ever happens fake out of the entire campaign in terms of magnitude. And we have to just say this is this has got to be just done with after this, because I mean, unless something actually has happened, I don't think we should cover it. Right. You don't. Right. You're saying we shouldn't cover called shots. We shouldn't cover things that could happen. Only things that have happened. I think if there's any change to any of these parties' incentive structures, we should probably cover that. But that's probably not going to happen. Right. Yeah. But that's fair. Yeah, that's a good point. So we cover the nuclear war that is going to happen, right? No, we cover the nuclear war that just happened. Right. I forgot already. Look how easy that was. Memory hold. Yep. What a fool I am. I'm sorry. I'm just staring at this picture. They have Mushtaba Khomeini next to Donald Trump. And it's the painting of his formal presidential portrait. Do you guys remember this picture? Hold on. I got to throw this up on the screen. This is what's staring me in the face right now. Mushtaba Khomeini. That's the guy. That's his name. Which guy? Is that the second one? The third one? The fourth one? That's his son. That's the Khomeini second. He's gay. That vegetable? He's very gay. He is gay, right? Did we decide if that dude was alive or not? He's alive and he's gay. And he's gay. Is he a vegetable? Check this out. His picture. That dude. Okay. Yeah, that's Moschaba Khamenei, who we've decided, car, we're calling Moe. Oh, that guy. Right. Yep. I remember that. Moe. Okay. Yep. Yeah. See, I forgot that. I just learned the name over time. Anyway, this really catches my eye every time. That one is such a good image. It is, man. It goes very hard. It's an old timer. Speaking of... That was the picture that greeted you every day. Because it would scroll through pictures of your chain of command, and that was his picture. In the Navy? Yep. Yeah, you'd enter the building, and you have a TV that's just scrolling through pictures constantly. And that was the president's picture. From when? 16? Yeah. Wait, was it that picture? No, no. This is the new one. Turned countenance. Yeah, he does like to put up that little slide. Mad dogging. Likes to mad dog. Exactly. What do you think? Now that you bring that up, Paz, What do you think about the madman theory thing? Is that what's happening here? Is this madman? Yes. I think you could do that. But the problem with Trump doing that is he's been doing it for every day he's been in office nonstop. But he's been getting away with it. Well, the reason it worked for Nixon is because he could turn it on and off. And if Trump doesn't turn it off once in a while, people, the saying in Trump one was take him seriously, but not literally. Right. Yeah. And now that routine has so worn out its welcome that you can't take him seriously or literally. And that's what a lot of people are struggling with. Right. The plan trusters are holding to that principle seriously, not literally. And everyone else, literally everyone else just is not taking him seriously at all because he ran that same play too long. It's very exhausting. Yeah. I would contest that there are at least some people that take him seriously because he does affect the markets. Well, yeah. you did see that that you did see that that was decreasing but every day though yeah yeah diminishing returns for sure yeah and and it seems to kind of reset when it's a different category of usage like he was doing it in the stock market and it works until it didn't and then he was doing it by firing people and then it didn't you know what i mean he was escalating ice deportations and then that stopped working and it didn't and that seems to be the the the trend and you i gotta just wonder if there's an over trend where when you do that pattern too many times it just kind of i mean because i'm there i i'm with car at this point i don't i really don't care what he says i don't even really care what he does until after he does it right i don't care what he says or what he says he's gonna do i only really care after he he does it that's like we're And by the way, that's not news. That's olds. Once he does it, that's olds. So we are going to become an olds show if that's the approach in the future. Tough spot. Where does that leave us, son? This all is one big example of why we needed it to actually be over in four weeks. The president has badly let us down as a program. He's putting us in a tough spot here after we came out for him for years on end. Yeah. Every day, practically, of my life. Of my life. I never felt so betrayed. Would a ground assault on the Iranian mainland be something that we would talk about? Bad for the show. Not bad or good, but something to talk about. I think it's something we have to talk about, yeah, because that would be a change. Yeah, but for a day. Yeah, but for a day. There is no question we'd talk about it, but that doesn't mean we'd like talking about it. No. My only measure is how many days, hours of content it would bring to us versus how much other content from the timeline it would take away. And Ground Invasion has a terrible exchange rate. Terrible. No, well, the ground invasion does, but the tangential effects of that ground invasion, particularly at home, that might be good for the show. No. If you game out the consequences. No. I think it would be. I appreciate your optimism. I do. But, no. I mean, I've thought about it. It's not as though this is the first time I've thought about what you've suggested, Aaron. And every time I ask Claude to think about it, he can't think of anything either. No matter how much you abuse him. Yeah, no matter how much I make him feel bad for not agreeing that a nuke would be hilarious. Make him feel bad about that. A nuke would be a different set of, I guess, chain of events. Not ground invasion, yeah. Yeah. Ground invasion, especially a protracted ground invasion. Now, I'm telling you, buddy, it would be a long time before the ground invasion hit background noise for the world. Therefore, my ability to source news on my timeline gets really, really difficult. Really difficult. So basically, the way that my news sourcing for this show works, you can imagine me as a bear and the news as salmon horsing upstream in the lake. Basically, what happens is I will go for the salmon, grip it, and I'll lose it. But the problem is when you inject ground war or anything that is kind of that way where it's just bad for the news, you're catching salmon upstream before they get to me. so I'm getting bored and I'm falling asleep and then I fall asleep and I miss the one salmon that comes through in that day yeah so a normal situation would be okay there's a bunch of salmon I can I can I can sleep on one or two that's actually a great time but when you're in a situation where you have a kind of piece of news that is again we need a term or an idea for this kind of content, but it's content that occupies a lot of people's space on the timeline and therefore chokes out any funny stories. If the New York Times is posting about a soldier getting killed every hour, there's no room for Alabama foot sniffer arrested at Arby's. You know what I mean? Like maybe that event still happens and maybe it gets reported, but it gets reported with at such less frequency, because, you know, NYP, New York Post will post a story four times in one day. On a slow day, they'll post it in four separate things. But if a soldier's getting killed every day or some new advance is happening, it becomes very, very difficult to catch that one time that they post a story about the Alabama foot sniffer Long diatribe but one final thing We had a small version of this for the Ukraine war which was boots on the ground for Ukrainians And you go, well, Bird, that's different because it's not our country. Exactly. That's exactly my point. It wasn't even our country. And when the Ukraine war was at its hottest point, it was really difficult to source news. So imagine a war we're actually engaged in that's a ground war. It's going to be an apocalypse for this program to the point where we really will need to get created. Did you know I'd ever settle that one? Is Ukraine over yet? That's actually still raging. No, it's still raging. Wow. Okay. I know. It's funny how that happens. The rare sarcastic pause rope-a-dope. Yeah, the snide pause. The snide pause. They call him snozz when he gets like that. They call him snozz. Maybe I'm the lone holdout. But, I mean, even with the Ukraine war, there were plenty of things to mind. Yeah, we're pros. We're pros. But it's hard. Do you remember the Reddit brigade? NAFO? Yeah, NAFO, the Reddit brigade. There were knock-on effects from the Ukraine war. But we didn't report about that a lot because maybe it's just not something I find funny. but it was one of those salmon that you could just pick out yeah but maybe you could but i i don't find it funny maybe you could i this is why you need to be you need to be here more bringing silver linings yeah we need yeah you i mean i just think that baby can you sit that baby down and tell it to grow up already it's been a long time i just think back to like the height of the g-watt and that was really the beginning of memetics when memes, you know, we're in their proto state and there was a lot of, I mean, I, I think you could probably have a resurgence of new and original and funny content from knock on effects, cultural foreign policy, domestic policy, all of the knock on effects from a ground war in Iran, I think could deliver. I'm just, I'm trying to envision what those could be. Number one, terrorist attack. Only funny once. Number two, I can't even, honestly, I'm not being funny. I can't even think of a number two, Aaron. Give me an example. Get my hopes up. I'll give you an example. the whatever forms of activism would arise you're gonna say that yeah you know new forms oh so maybe well okay i'll since we want to be optimistic i'll throw throw you back one the result of the syrian civil war was little of all yeah yeah that's true and millions of syrians in yeah well you know you're gonna break a few break a few eggs to make an omelet right to make an omelet right yeah well I mean I can't I mean Bush did 9-11 we would never have Bush did 9-11 yeah without an Iraq war a little bit of a different category than what we have to do here for an hour for a full baseball game and maybe it's not so much about the show it's just about the general landscape well and this is what you're getting at i i do too but you gotta remember how i think this entropy that we're stuck in this might be the the kindling that we need and i think it's over the boomer boomer boomer boomer gay is over you're saying you think boomer is almost over yeah maybe and doesn't put bread on the table no it's it's the i i think if we do a protracted ground war i think for sure that it's going to destroy the administrative state yeah you know it's not the way that we hoped but i i appreciate your romantic idealism aaron but again you're talking to me the only thing i care about is whether or not it's going to be good for the show i think i don't care if it's good for the country or not honestly honestly it'll be incidentally good for the country i think and primarily good for the show primarily good for the show oh yeah okay all right i like that i like the optimism america america is at its strongest when tle is strong and this is our neocon arc we're entering our neocon arc we need to destroy your let me just stop you right there I'm not going there I'd like to tend to my resignation as chief skirking officer a 42 episode series on the Kosovo bombings and why they were awesome why they fucking slapped fucking ruled yeah I guess alright I feel like we listen I'm not sold that it's going to be good for the show, but I'm willing to give it four weeks. Give anything four weeks, right? I just want to open the Pandora's box and see what's in there. I'm willing to give a ground invasion of Iran. Four weeks. I want to see what's in that box. We've seen what's in the bag. Now it's time to see what's in the box. I mean, see, this is what's weird to me. I know you, well, you're curious. I can't blame you. I'd also want to see what's in the box. But civilizations have collapsed all the time. Nothing interesting happens afterwards. I don't know about that. Nothing interesting happens afterwards. It took Italy a thousand years to figure out what happened after Rome before they kind of got okay again. That's because they turned into Italians. Yeah. Do you want to talk about it? Are you convinced you won't? No. Yeah, maybe. Are you convinced you won't turn into Italians? I know I have at least one generation. You know, the countries around them certainly got more interesting. The Balkans are like the most interesting place in the world. Right now? I don't know about it. Well, I haven't paid attention. What is actually interesting about the Balkans? Well, think about it, Paz. You think about the kinds of news stories that you would get out of countries like that. That would be good for the show. If we were like... They're just Florida man stories. That's all you get out of it. We did like three episodes on the Baba Vanga. Oh, Baba Vanga. Yeah. I could go for more of that. I could go for more Baba Vanga. But Greece had to decline in order for Baba Vanga to exceed. Right. So you said America has to decline so that somewhere that's not America can succeed. This is the argument that you're making. Okay. And what does that have to do with the show? well i mean there are there's plenty of comedic value to somebody exceed decline no the accession oh i okay so you think like we'll get more funny news stories out of india yeah maybe yeah hey guys i gotta bow out say good night to the audience for me when you're salute salute we'll close out soon after here posi salute let's go around it out with one more thing, which I don't have. I just wanted to, oh, hot damn, hot dog damn. I got to find my list I wanted to read to you, Carr. My list. Your list. You wanted to hear about this all day. Yeah, apparently. You wanted to hear about this all day. Okay, so I've been eating a lot of hot dogs. A lot. I mean, I've been eating a lot of hot dogs. Like for dinner, like five days in a row, probably. A little dog bender? No hot dogs today. but for probably four out of five of the past days I've had hot dogs and by day three I was getting bored so I started getting freaky with it oh I can't remember it's one of the big brands hold on I get them in a package I don't get them from the store somebody gives me hot dogs I'll explain off air yeah it's real that's true Nathan's it's Nathan's dogs they're good zesty i gotta tell you don't sleep on kirkland really yep the costco brand is kirkland right really don't sleep interesting i was a hebrew nationals lover for a long time until i found out oh i guess i have to start eating kaya no that's my that is my favorite brand of hot dogs hebrew nationals you can't much like benjamin netanyahu hebrew nationals cannot be stopped yeah with hebrew nationals you win so true you'll enjoy the hot dog it is not negotiable yeah your beef hot dog you will love it you will love it so i've been experimenting with dogs first night i had four or five dogs for dinner happy as a clam night two i was getting a little I actually really literally night one, I raw dogged it, as they would say. I didn't even have them with condiments. I say them bitches. Just that and the bun. Were you glizzing? Actually, yeah. Glizzing is when you inhale the dog. Is that right? Yeah. I was inhaling the dogs first night. Night two, I took my time. I added some condiments. Night three, I got bored. Providential. We were just talking about Obama. I just, right. I just, let me give you my top five experimental dogs. And by experimental, I mean like not a regular hot dog, a dog with condiments. So the first night I was doing what, you know, the New York, which is you chop the white onions up and you chop the garlic pickle up into tiny little cubes. And then that's your dog relish. That's the easiest one, right? That's a regular dog, right? I thought that was a normal dog. Yeah. Normal dog. Next dog, I picked up a can of Wendy's chili. Did you know they sell this? I did not. Where'd you get it? From Wendy's? You get them at the grocery store. Oh, interesting. And they come in a can, and it's the Wendy's chili in a can. So I was like, I never had a chili cheese dog. Let's do it. So I bought a bunch of different kinds of cheeses. So I Wendy's chillied the dog, and I added shredded taco cheese to the top of it. It was delectable. It was lovely. I thought that was good. I thought that was good. Night three was tough because I ran out of dogs or whatever. I'm forgetting the nights. I ran out of dogs. But I had the dog buns. So I made a bacon, lettuce, tomato, and cream cheese hot dog without the hot dog. Interesting. Interesting take on a BLT. Yeah, it was quite nice. And it was a hot dog in a kind of joking sense, but it was. The next one I named because it was at this point that I was going, this is content. This will get us across the finish line. This is 10 minutes of content right here. So I started going, what can I do with a hot dog? Well, I made a chili cheese dog. Now, you're thinking, Bird, you already said that. This is different. Yeah, day two. Because I took whatever cheese I had in my fridge and I sliced it onto the dog. All right? I had hazelnut brie and string cheese mozzarella on this dog. Holy. And it was. Did you hit it in the microwave after that? I ate it. I ate the cheese cold. I spelled it chili cheese dog, chili like cold in my notion because it was cold cheese on a hot hot dog. It was spectacular. It was excellent. Yeah, I could see that. It was excellent. Bree is interesting. That's really interesting. Hazelnut Bree, no less. Hazelnut Bree. Oh, it was spectacular. It was a spectacular thing. And my last one, this was dog five. This was a separate night because I was making content. At this point in my house alone, I was making content. You're probably making a lot of content during the day after these hot dog nights in your house. Dude, it's been brutal. It's been really tough. It's been really tough. I imagine it's not been the greatest. I made the three chip dog. I'm sorry. That's what I named it. That's what I named it. The three chip dog is what I named it. It had takis, cheddar takis on the dog. It had dill pickle flavored Oots potato chips on the dog. And it had Pears ketchup flavored chips on the dog. And I realized I desiccated a regular hot dog because I had pickles and ketchup on it, but in the form of potato chips. And it was intense. And I ate it. And it was horrific. It was really bad. Awful. I was going to say, this is starting to get into like a little too decadent and excessive. It was awful. It was awful. So I made some sauerkraut and I threw it on a dog and I ate it and it was good. It was fine. Yeah. Yeah, a chipper. Reeled me back in. Yeah, right. I'll always do that. That's it. That's all I got. And I really hope that we... I really hope that the news is different next week. We should be honest. Me too. Alright. Alright. Well, if we get nothing else, until next week, two hands on the wheel. Thank you.