The Game All Comes Down to Maura (Traitors Finale Full Recap)

Well no more meritors for the year we got away to another year for the meritor, but Interesting season. So we have to wait another year because they're gonna do the normies one I don't know when that's gonna air, but that gets recorded in the summer So we might only have to wait like six or seven months until we get into it. That's actually a good point and We're both applying for the normies one so across your fangies. I hope one of us gets on Yeah, I think one of us should at least go on there Both of us and then we act like we don't know each other until somebody's like oh, I know who those guys are and then we're completely Focked and we get voted out right away I Thought about this the way no now because I know you I would go in there very very Very untrustworthy of you Fair point. That's a really good idea. Like oh, you know him and that fuck that guy Steel boats me out the first chance again. I would try to because you're gonna try to vote me out I know how you operate as there's a drive in a deep left field by Castellanos. It will be a day to clock and so that'll make it a I don't need this spotlight I shine just fine Hi, I'm karma and yes, I am a bitch brav bros Good evening everybody welcome back to another episode of brav bros your favorite podcast from the bros for everyone For whoever wants to listen I'm your co-host deal Russell join back in the stew for the first time this year Shoot him a gooter we were here at early January, but yeah, I don't worry. Yeah, just a little bit It was just before the first snowfall. Oh, yeah, because then I went to Cali and with the Cali during the first snowfall Okay, yeah, still like two months. It's been a long time. It's been a while. Yeah, I think I operate better when I could smell you Yeah, me too. I just need I need your scent in pheromones mostly. Yeah, moat like majority pheromones, but We are here to discuss the finale of traitors. It was a good season There was you know some some notes obviously the round tables could have been a little bit more exciting The faithfuls probably could have done a bit of a better job But all in all it was entertaining and that's what we're looking for is entertainment now Before we dive into this last episode. I'm I guess we'll try to not spoil does it matter anymore? I don't think it so this is the thing It's now we're recording this on Monday won't be out till tomorrow at least If you haven't watched it over the weekend and you don't know what happened and you've somehow avoided spoilers I'm very happy for you stop listening right now stop listening right now Well, go watch it and then come back because we can't and honestly You shouldn't even need spoilers to understand what happened and we tried to do the little tango the other day when we were doing this last week About how it could turn out differently than what we thought of course It's never gonna turn out differently than what you thought the nails were already set in the coffin Obviously, that's kind of where we start to but it didn't really matter because at the end of the day these faithfuls were terrible Rob was playing a pretty good game He ended up doing the only thing that made any sense at the ends and it worked out in his favor Yeah, what did you expect honestly? Uh-huh? That's exactly the way it went there was a sparkle of hope here and there but quickly quickly tampered out by Rob Honestly, he actually did a he did a good job with damage control. He really did honestly Hey, that was the whole thing too because yeah There were some questions going into the very ends like how is he gonna play this? Is it gonna be Rob and Eric with Mara still there? Are they gonna be able to get Johnny and Tara both out? Is there some crazy circumstance of which Mara somehow considers flipping? No? But maybe there's something in there We have to at least see how that plays out and it was pretty clear and obviously and the producers and editors did as much as they possibly Could to give us that reasonable doubt but it was never gonna turn out any differently now But let's jump in and like you said we start out right where we left off That's Mark getting into the coffin mark dies. We find out immediately Which was I believe the right move and anti-climactic as shit Extra narrowly Mark by mark Ten seconds like and I know it did feel like We waited longer to get to this episode to see who was murdered By the time the episode started I'm like, oh yeah, we still have to do this murder cool and it's Mark Okay, what's Mark gonna say on his way to the coffin? Or is he gonna get like a post exit interview? No, nope. Nope. Just nothing. We're just moving on It was like the scene from Elf where buddies like floating off in the beginning and it's like Bye, buddy. That was the same vibe. Yeah, that was it Mark honestly said in that moment about as much as he got to say at the reading which was nothing Yeah, that's a shame. I like Mark ballas. I think you know Is he the best faithful no, but he probably did get shafted like now that I'm yeah exactly and he's been really Like going after that on TikTok talking about how there was a lot more there were more discussions or he was doing a lot more He was working with other people that didn't really get a whole lot of screen time like Stephen But they didn't show it at the end of the day We questioned it a little bit here and there because they were showing us a lot But at the same time they were showing us really stupid moves and stupid thoughts So I didn't think that there was much validity to it, but now after all is said and done and we're looking back Yeah, they probably did cut a lot of stuff. Yeah, and I'm sure that is pretty common I know I would be on that train as well like if I looked like an idiot on TV I was like I really wasn't that dumb. Yeah, like I would be on TikTok right now Don't try to explain that I'm not that dead. I'm not that stupid Which would probably in turn make me look stupider, but whatever stupid is the stupid does First-gump quote it is yeah How we never had a first we've never had a first-gump quote in this podcast Jenna We got to I was running New tenant dead ice cream anyway Then we watch that again. I like your later years. Yeah, it does not hold up very well What do you mean really? I yeah, I do think that it's one of those movies that plays better on TNT on a Sunday afternoon When there's no sports on that's a good point because you can tune it on like I don't know halfway through the movie And then you get some commercials where you can do other shit You could just it's one of those like I don't know what what's the word for it where there's just like a bunch of different stories in one anthology anthology. It's basically an anthology series. Yeah, that's I mean more or less But yeah, I watched just straight through and I was like huh doesn't hit quite the same as it did when I was young but Anyway, we're a breakfast not not with forest We're breakfast and Eric walks in first and then you got Mara Rob Johnny Tara Now Mark is obviously gone. So we're at the final. What is it for at this point? Is there somebody else? I miss him. I yeah, who do I miss Mara Eric Rob Johnny and Tara? Maybe I just can't count. I don't know possibly but anyway They are all trying to deliberate and figure out who is the traitor? How many traders are left? Obviously they don't know for a fact that they're still two but the Robin Eric Suspicion is carrying over into this one obviously Johnny and Tara their mission is to get it's all this whole episode Which is so funny considering she did nothing all season long the whole entire game comes down to Mara Yeah, can Johnny and Tara flip Mara away from Eric and Rob's camp? No, no simple answer absolutely not but I think it's really just It just shows you how this season went the fact that the two people who have openly said in Confessionals and even walking around the castle that they're terrible at this they don't know what they're doing They're really bad at this game They're the two who actually land on the right subjects and it makes no sense But it makes all the sense of the world. Yep, they're the ones that are doing the math problems wrong getting the right answers Very funny to watch But in my head I had hope still going into this episode because When you really break it down and again, I am always very upfront with the hindsight thing I understand it's probably a lot different when you're there I'm not saying that I would have been the best trader of faithful ever. I'm just saying watching it From my perspective at this juncture Okay Faithfuls are getting their ass kicked sure they've locked into getting some traders out But they haven't been doing it based on like great strategy or anything so in my head I'm like isn't Rob at this point like the most obvious answer You would think so and you would think that we would see more of the same conversations from last week and the week prior Where people did kind of piece that together and Natalie was spearheading that before she got sent away Like you would have thought okay, let's use logic here We finally got to a point where somebody questioned Rob and she gets voted out right away and says the cheese of faithful. Yeah What are you gonna do now guys? Oh, Johnny and Tara clearly it's gotta be Rob They even put it together that it's Rob and Eric because Eric's not talking either They know that it's not Mara, but they know that Mara is the one that they have to flip so this is actually as far as a good Chance I guess of the best Chincholid adding it Still not a great chance because they had the right answer and I guess that probably did make Johnny and Tara and they talked about it A little bit the reunion about how they were happy at least that they got it But they were so late to get it that it doesn't make any sense to me the other part of it is I always hate when people don't watch these shows and I'm really interested to see you know if we don't get selected How the normie show ends up? Because in my mind you added a secret trader you guys lucked into getting Don out But in reality Donna was just playing a terrible game and she got voted out. She was a trader Rob led you to Candice and Lisa Just start doing the math here. It's led you to rob correct Candice led you to rob But at that point you should know okay, we've got at least one trader left maybe two if they flipped somebody Every person who has the opportunity to flip to a trader or go home is gonna become a trader So just do the math there's two traders left somebody said in the comments that one season somebody did deny and Got killed in lieu of what a loser right like what a dork, but yeah, I guess I believeable what a loser But either way I the math always it just should always check out and for whatever reason It doesn't because people don't watch these shows and they're not as accustomed to how the game is supposed to be played So it is kind of funny to watch that but this is I guess the best chance that we're gonna have with Johnny saying It's got to be Rob and Eric and we have to get Mara like that is the right answer The problem is you're dealing with Mara who's been wrapped up with Rob being higher time. Yeah That's the biggest issue you're not to get her off of team Rob I was just I thought maybe Taran Johnny had enough Not even evidence at this point just I think you lean heavy on the fact that it's like look No one's questioned this guy and he's at the end of the game and we're giving him credit for being the best faithful ever but Everyone else at some point has been under the gun at that table other than Mara right Like Tara's been questioned Johnny almost went home and that almost got Tara sent home because then they found out they're so close together Eric's been under speculation Rob has not really, hmm, so like I guess that was where I was They weren't I feel like they should have pressed way harder and Tara said this too I don't remember if it was in the finale or if she was talking at the reunion But she thought that she had Mara and she said I trusted you implicitly I trusted you 100% I walked out of the conversation that we had in the castle before the round table Thinking you were gonna help us get Rob and when I'm watching that I'm like no she really didn't honestly You could have pressed a lot harder and given her an ultimatum because she opened up multiple times throughout this episode saying I just don't want to look dumb if it is Rob and she said that to Tara Then press that and say okay, do you want to look really dumb or do you want to win? Give her that and if she still goes with Rob that's on her which ultimately is gonna do But at the same time at least you're exhausting all possibilities here I mean they were never gonna win this anyway with two traders left the odds of we're stacked against them severely It was just not gonna work But you do have to give it that last ditch effort now the funny thing is as we go into which we always know that last episode It's always gonna be a huge prize pot. We're gonna pump up them numbies 100 to a lot of $1,000 and we're going through and the funny thing is and they always do this And I always really like this especially when we're watching at home when they're doing the quiz type of thing Where it's like who was the first person to have a cough and put in their plot? I don't remember but I'm trying to rack my brain and like wow they're actually really good at this it happened like four days ago That's why they're good at it. I always forget that aspect of it I'm like damn these people are so much smarter than I'm giving them credit for it's like no I was saying it actually happened a couple days ago, so they do remember yep exactly they say weeks on the show But they're only there for consecutive days, but Alan arrives in the breakfast room obviously everyone's still speculating. He's dressed for a funeral a very chic funeral He looks fantastic always does gonna miss him off. That's one of the biggest things that I miss when the show goes away is Alan Yeah, so when traders UK doesn't use Alan did you know that I told you I watched the whole Rising celebrity season. Yeah, it was good right. Yeah, different gameplay apparently, but anyway As you said we go to the big mission and there's a chance for a ton of money You know we're gonna end with a splash and we go and there's a helicopter just like last year. Mara's Jack Jack Mara's Jack I was gonna say Jones in oh and then Jack came out mm-hmm Jacked up That's different Jack Johnson Mars Jack Johnson about the helicopter. Yeah, sit waiting wishing hoping to get some prizes She's all guest up and Rob is gonna go on the helicopter and how it works like you say we drop Something out a little card out of the helicopter you scan the card on the chest if you get it right green You get money whatever and of course the big reveal at the end is Rob has to jump out of the chopper Swim over to land with 10 seconds left and he gets it on three seconds sure But that's it so that that's a hell of a swim though. Yeah, I'd that looked horrible Yeah, and the water was like 20 degrees. Yeah, it didn't look fun But the important thing is not so much the mission they do bank a ton of cash But the important thing here is all the side talking going on before and after and again It's it's the same thing because in one card at this point on the way back you have Mara Eric and Rob which is the worst thing that could have happened for Johnny and Tara Especially because we're headed to the round table especially because Rob also picked Mara to go on the helicopter with them true to further isolate her even more Yep 100% but Car number one with Tara and Johnny are just trying to figure out how to get Mara now like you said Tara does have a decent relationship with Mara, which unfortunately I think bites are in the ass Mm-hmm I think because she thought they were closer. She didn't press right because she felt confident in their friendship That's a shame because on the flip side Mara Tells Eric and Rob that Tara is on to him. Yep So as we head to the castle now Rob and Eric know that they have to turn it up a little bit to try to Make sure they don't sway Mara. So we have a whole thing that could have been much better for them But I don't know how you picked the cars I'm assuming that Rob probably was like come on Mara getting the car Yeah, I'm not really sure because they didn't show the the car selection as much as anything else But you getting back to the castle. I mean really Rob And I'm not even gonna put Eric in this category, but Rob just has to play defense Yeah, yeah, you don't have to worry about flipping Johnny or Tara You just have to make sure that you can maintain Mara's relationship and Mara's trust in you and that shouldn't be too difficult as we see It's not too difficult, but it's more just yeah Let's just monitor the situation. We'll see how often she goes to talk to Johnny to talk to Tara We'll try to break it up here and there I'm sure there's some gameplay into it where you'll see that Mara is over there sitting in a room with Johnny or Tara Maybe you'll walk by just to try to put a little pressure on them to me. Don't talk too much about it Hey Mara, I see what you're doing don't do this and that should be enough It should be but we get to the castle and Terran Johnny are now I'm glad they actually had this conversation just because we've seen it go left every other time and I know Statistically with the people still there that they can't fuck this one up. Yeah, but they're like we're not wavering It's Eric and Rob Ready break. I'm like all right guys. Please don't waver because you've done this before. 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I'm not gonna vote for you. I Actually give Mora credit in this scene and I also give her credit later when she's skeptical on Eric when Rob her and Eric are talking and She like Rob actually picks up on the fact that like oh, I think she's lying right now. She's the same shit to me earlier I got to make sure that that she's all my team and the way you even describes her like she's my queen of the chess board. It's like Yeah, yeah, I don't know if it was completely intentional. It may have been yeah I give Rob a lot of credit for the game that he played But it did come down to Mora but back to giving Mora credit I thought she she handled herself well with Tara because I can see why Tara was like oh, I got her like it was enough but I haven't seen her play like that the entire game. No, and honestly with there have only being four people Well five people left at this point She's gonna actually have to try to play and I think this is the most that other people have come to her to try to talk about voting Whereas what we've seen pretty much the entire season is a group of faithfuls and maybe one or two traders are mixed in there Are all sitting around the kitchen table talking they're all sitting around and then it's like okay Yeah, I'll vote with you guys I'll vote with you guys now You're the only one left and I don't think that Mora put together that she's the swing vote I don't think that she realized that I think she realized well I'm gonna be with Rob the whole time I think she didn't really know what Eric was gonna do because Eric still wasn't speaking up That was the other thing that he was doing the whole time I know and the other funny thing that comes from all of this is yes like you said Tara goes back to Johnny Like I think we got Mara like I'm not really sure But I think we got Mara and we have to go after John or we have to go after Eric right now or Rob right now And we'll figure out how it goes when it comes to the round table when Mara goes to talk to Rob And Rob says I think she's lying to me right now. She also starts casting some speculation on Eric Yep to Rob yep, so that plants a seed for later because now it's like oh shit I actually did think that you were gonna go with this whole thing as I kept saying it's Johnny and Tara I don't have to worry because there's not gonna be confirmation at the end of this round table Instead she throws out there Eric's a little suspicious. It's like okay. I'm made. I got in game I have full end game. I don't even have to do the song and dance at the end where it's like do I don't I do I don't I You already have some speculation on Eric so we might have to get him out if it comes down to it or if I just want to use that option at the end So it works out really well for Rob because not only does Mara. Yes, she might be quote unquote lying to him But I don't think he really thinks in this moment that she might be voting for him at the round table I don't think he's worried about that one bit. No, but it's more just like like hurry up and wait Like let's just get this over with let's get the round table done with because I know that Eric's not gonna turn on me If you confirm with the round table that you're not gonna turn on me there. We're good. I'm done. I won Yeah, I solo win which all the pieces kind of fell into place along the way and you know, it's a mixture of He did play a good game But it's also you got to be lucky at the right times and he was yeah, and like things kind of came up Rob But we get to the round table Eric leads the whole thing off and I didn't mind this play, you know, he's like you know you guys are coupling with the love Island crew We got the Olympians over here like I'm kind of solo right now and that will explain away why he's been so quiet Right doesn't explain away all the speculation and everybody starts going and now we get the Rob comments we get the the Eric comments and the whole thing is Ken Tara and Johnny Swing Mara, but that's the problem and I think that's why this round table was not it This should have been a knockout dragout fight or knockdown dragout It should have been pressing Rob so hard that maybe Morris sees something, but I think the conversation beforehand and here's the credit for Mara I think that stayed Tara enough and Johnny to not really I thought they were gonna go full fucking throught and maybe they just don't have it in them to do it Yeah, I was the other thought that I had that kind of crept in where maybe these aren't the people to go full throttle Not again, we haven't really seen a full throttle round table It's a whole season and yeah You could say a couple people got voted out that may have pushed that we saw Natalie last week But that was Natalie's last itch effort We haven't seen like a full throttle aside from Rob going after Rida and Rob going after Candace Yep, which was trader on trader crime the rest of it no one faithful stood up except for Colton I guess who really was going after one person or two people at any time So maybe they just don't have it in them that was my one thought like I I don't know if it was as much We have Mara on our side like we just have to see how this plays out and just throw as much evidence out there as possible And then we'll take the chance they might not just be capable. Yeah, interesting See when I look at it and the way that they went I don't like this defense and I think It's it's bad news especially late in the game. I know 99.99% that she's a faithful right But you could say that like Mara knows that about Rob right, right? So like I don't love when we play the game of I know she's not something to go after you It's like just focus on them Because you don't know 100% and I it seems like a stupid thing to like Hammer home like I'm so confident about these two guys. You've been wrong pretty much all season until now Yeah, so leave her out of it and go after Rob get Mara to buy into Rob that's all that you guys should be doing and they really don't press enough unfortunately The only thing that they did do this was a good move and I'll give Terrick writer for that is she tells Mara that Eric said your name Yep, that was a good shot there, but again You needed more to further it and they ran out of time to talk yeah They ran out of time to talk and honestly the other side of the defense if you will going after Johnny didn't even really need to be done Mm-hmm. It was already kind of done you know that Eric and Rob are gonna vote for Johnny It was mostly just Rob playing a little bit of defense and then casting it back on Johnny and shit He really didn't have to do anything because it even in this moment They're talking to Eric like they're spending too much time on Eric talking about other things and you guys went in They're going for Rob and that's the main thing to do if you're gonna swing it or you have that discussion with Mara Before hands like hey, I heard you have some speculation about Eric. Let's talk about that Yes, get Eric out of here and then you get Eric out of there Yeah, you don't know if he's a traitor or a faithful right away But at least then after that maybe you have a chance because it's two on two You might have a chance to be able to swing this one way or another I don't know what it would come down to if it's the four of them sitting out there and they're casting into the fire to see who's gonna Go home or who's not whatever may have happened could have happened But it didn't play out that way and they didn't really need to do a whole lot to convince Mara to vote for Johnny Unfortunately or fortunately depending on who you're voting for Eric votes for Johnny Johnny votes for Eric Rob votes for Johnny Tara votes for Eric and Mara votes with Rob For Johnny so Johnny he gets whacked Tara you could tell is completely blindsided. Yep. She's like, oh my god I thought we had this whole thing and I think she also recognizes like well, I'm fucked yep because At that point She actually should know 100% like okay, it is robin Eric. Yes, there's no more speculating sure she did. Yeah, yeah So she knows in that moment like well now I'm cooked and Johnny bounces And the rest of the episode goes pretty much how you think it would go It's just Tara trying to spin Mara trying to say I think it's Eric. I think it's Rob And you're watching more have this internal battle this internal struggle in many confessionals where she's I felt so bad because she's like off it turns out to be Rob I'm gonna feel so stupid. Oh, man. You're gonna feel so stupid Yeah, she still feels stupid and the reunion films like months later and she still felt very stupid about this whole thing But I mean you knew what was gonna happen and the way that it works out is Cast it into the fire if it fires up red or fires up green Depending on what you vote for everybody's gonna vote for let's try to banish again Let's just try to do this whole thing over again It was already done. Yeah, we're gonna go for Tara right now all three of them go for Tara This is where it gets a little interesting at least was interesting because there's three left and Mara and Eric happy Cool, let's make it green. I think I'm happy with the people that we have left. I trust you guys Rob went raw uh Mara went red. Oh, Mara did go red. Yeah, Mara did go red So Mara and Rob probably did and maybe it was enough like I said earlier where Mara comes to Rob and says I think I might be Eric. Let's see how this goes You don't see any side conversations about this. That was enough. Maybe a glance that we missed. Yeah, yeah, okay Yeah, what we're gonna get him out too So and it works out perfectly because Eric is blindsided. He was genuinely upset He was genuinely devastated and that was it. I mean it was enough for both of them to go red You know what's gonna happen. You're out of here, buddy. I think I feel confident. We're good. Right guys? Cool We're good poor Mara Yeah, just unbelievable and it's so funny watching this from the third party perspective because we have no skin in the game But watching her face just fall apart waiting and she even said this at the reunion I was still waiting for like 30 seconds after you said traitor to be like I'm just fucking around. Yep Nope didn't play out that way. Sorry Mara. Yeah, dude. I felt really bad, but at the end of the game It's a game at the end of the day not the end of the game So like that's what I remind myself throughout it because I do think that a lot of people and I'm I'm always talking about the psychology of these shows and when you're in these shows especially the ones we are sequestered like a bachelor bachelor rat. Mm-hmm something like this. I know for a fact like it fucks with your head So like I know they're not thinking like they would think if they're out in real life but at the same time the people that get too emotionally involved in the game and then Get upset at people playing the game that never makes sense to me because I thought Mara handled it really well I'm not talking about her. She was like you know what at the end of the day It's a game you played well whatever and Rob's like yeah totally right you're on my team, but all the people that get like so but hurt when they get betrayed it's like I get it to a certain extent, but You can't play with that much emotion and I think when it comes down to the end with the rob and Eric thing Rob says it perfectly. I'm gonna give a hundred thousand dollars to a guy I'm at three weeks ago By three weeks he means like last week. Yeah pretty much last week So yeah, it's a no-brainer when you put it like that The only qualm that I have at the end of this episode where I've seen this before They'll usually have other people out there to like quote-unquote congratulate the winner And all they did was just have Rob and Alan talking and I think it's because Alan has a crush on them It probably is, but I did want to see and obviously Mara's devastated I want to see what Eric's doing. I want to see what Tara's up to Johnny They're all still in the castle like they haven't left yet So show him walking in or have have all of them sitting outside waiting for Rob to come out and celebrate his solo That would have been awesome because I want to see what they look like I want to see what they do And yeah, you get a little bit of that at the reunion But they've had so much time to get over this yeah, and Eric says it at the reunion too Like it took me a couple of days to get over it, but I'm never gonna trust anybody again. It's a funny line But it is what it is. I want to see what their faces look like right in that moment Watch Rob come out watch the guy who just ruined all of your hopes and dreams come out and celebrate and look at all of his money in front of him But you know, it's gonna happen. Well, if that did happen They would see his beautiful face back We're not mad at you. He's playing the game. I'm mad at that. Look at him. Look at those guns I just would have loved to have that little thing and look the way that it plays out at the reunion is God, it's kind of stupid honestly. It was I always look forward to reunions. Yeah for these shows because I do want to see what's going on And like I said before it takes so long to get to the reunion that people aren't really feeling the same way Except for Kansas apparently who just took so much offense to the way that Rob played the game She ran the whole reunion there were 50 people out on that stage only like six of them talked It was it was ridiculous the way they'd played out and honestly I don't know Andy was running the reunion I think he did a good job and Rob had a lot of good answers We find out that Rob has a girlfriend now. He's been dating a girl for two months So that's kind of right back in Mars face They weren't hooking up supposedly in the castle. You shit can't convince me otherwise. I don't believe it And you've got Rino on one hand who's doing ads with Rob and taking advantage of the fact that she was on traders She's doing like Wendy's ads and whatever else might be going on with Rob Then you have Candace who's still so but heard about this whole thing trying to prove her point that Rob made his decision early in the game That he was gonna get rid of everybody and he was gonna win by what it won so what two that's not how it played out I'm sorry. It's not and Rob was like What do you want me to do? I mean the writing was on the wall. It's what we've been saying the whole time The writing was on the wall for Rina. I need to separate myself from her I can't defend her in front of other people when I haven't been defending her the whole time So Rina's gone. I separated myself immediately You then took it upon yourself to start talking about me because you were mad about the rid of thing I have to separate myself from you better yet. I have to leave the charge against you to get you out It's not my fault that the trader or that the faithfuls didn't pick up on the fact that you were voting for me Like it's just not Rob's fault But Candice was still just like so but heard about this whole thing And then the rest of the reunion was just kind of useless with Porsche talking a bunch You have rap-apport arguing with Porsche Johnny and Tara were calling in from the Olympics and then Johnny and rap-apport get into it And it was just more of like the Michael Rap-apport show which you know funny or not It's just he's an idiot Porsche was on the show for 30 seconds. She's talking way too much You don't hear from Stephen You don't hear from Mark more of the same that we saw the whole season that it's pretty much over in a in a blink of an eye Yeah, and again like I get You know and Candice is a competitor as we know like she she cares a lot about things that she's involved in but I don't know I will never buy into the I don't like the way you played. I don't really care It doesn't matter. He won. Yeah, it's a game This is a game called traders. Yep, so he betrayed you as a traitor. Yep. So That'll never land when people make that argument. I like the way you played out you lost What do you want to do? There's nothing we can do at this point but yeah, we'll uh We'll wait and see about the normy season Hopefully we will be on it and then you'll see me raising That big bag of money at the end of the whole thing and shooters grave. I'll dig your grave for you That's fine murder you If we were both traders though We get voted out somebody would be like I know who you guys are yeah after you That's my only worry is like I would love to go into that castle and be like hey Oh, yeah, yeah, I just I work in finance. I don't you know, I watch this a lot but Big fan of the show and then if somebody's like oh you have a podcast about this. 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Oh, maybe I was out there. You can't trust anybody perhaps I don't know then might say more about you Georgia than it does about us. Yeah, I don't know Uh from myra hellwig Would you have betrayed Eric or split the pot if you were rob I probably would know it because I'm just that's me but I think I would have betrayed him one because he wasn't a traitor the whole time And like I would probably do the the mental gymnastics of like I've been here since day one I deserve it more than you So see you yeah, if I had to guess you would Betray. I don't think I would have if I didn't know for sure that mara was gonna sit on this gonna vote for that Yeah, I mean that's the thing like again. Is it kind of grimy sure? But it's also really good gameplay so like What are you gonna do? I mean you just bet the guy Uh from kay looker woods shooter. I couldn't help but hope you were doing okay deciphering the flame colors clearly. I wasn't I don't know why they make it red like I know like trafiting it's red and green but like it's tough to tell on things like that for you Why know that like the red lights on top greens on the bottom and penalize all of us because you know the worst like the first time that I encountered One of those horizontal traffic lights. Oh, I was like what is this? You just like get out of your car and leave it at the like I had to like I think I was I saw other cars stopping and then I kind of piece it together. Okay. It's always context for me for color If I have no context of where color is though, it's gonna be tough. Oh, that's how I'm gonna get you out in traders. Yeah, yeah exactly That's the red one. That's the red one get them Uh from Amanda Rockies mom at any point did you guys think that Rob was not going to win not over the last like five weeks to be honest No, like I said last week I saw a glimmer of hope there was a way that they could win but I was not confident that the faithfuls would win. Yeah Uh from Kate Elkman for future contest for future contestants. Do you think it's more advantageous to have seen the show or not? I mean, I think it's more advantageous to have seen the show. Yeah, I think it's just a matter of like you don't want to let on to everybody else That you know the show really well because then people will put it together that you are a good subject for a trader Yeah, and I could see being completely you know blissfully ignorant coming into it being a positive as well But I think they they both have pros and they both have cons. Yeah Uh from Al Alvarez, Mar Why did Mar I think it was why did Mar I think a pinky promise was valuable in a show called the traders I don't know and she did it the whole season. Yeah Yeah I don't really have a response. Yeah, you know either We feel bad for Mara. We do feel bad. I enjoyed Mara on the show Uh, I'm gonna read this one just because first off it was funny the intro but from Jamie Gibbs I sent a DM it was too long and then in parentheses just like Rob probably keep it in your pants Jamie Come on now good lord Yeah, what are we doing here? Yeah, come in. I guess so and the question is you think the snake donna's arms are long The question is doesn't it seem like a bad move on Candace's even or Candace's part even from an outside the castle standpoint to keep Hating on Rob everybody loves him right now and Renee even got a commercial with him I like Candace but come on girl think about the bigger picture. I agree with that I think it's crazy that she's still holding such a grudge against him. I just again like It's a game. I know I will always always always even if I go play and get fucking smoked by the guy sitting next to me right now I would still you could betray me at the end for a hundred grand. I beg fuck you dude But it's just a game by the way you're buying new podcast equipment. Yeah exactly and Last one here from Shavan B. Ham did Eric deserve to win No, I don't think so. I think if he played a better game as a trader if he played a better game as a faithful Then maybe you could have a like to stand on But if he played a better game as a trader He would have realized that Rob has a chance to burn him at the end And then he would have planted some seeds elsewhere Not that I think it would have worked anyway because it's still more versus you and Rob So I don't think he was gonna win the only chance he was gonna win was if Rob was feeling generous Yeah, and I actually thought he did a decent job In the turret and like planning with Rob. I thought they were on the same page But at the end of the day like Rob was still leading the charge. Yeah, I wouldn't have been mad at Eric one I really liked Eric now. Yeah, I think if you really break down the season Rob deserved to win correct because he orchestrated literally from episode one Yeah, he did a good job whether you like how he played the game or not. It's kind of irrelevant exactly later great game So he won the money. Yeah, but we'll uh, we'll have to see how this one shakes out I think what they're doing is after the normies one They're gonna bring back in all stars So the all stars could be really good. It could be great or bad It could be great or bad, but I think if they really lean into like the best of Like all of the people who have been traders Then it's gonna be hard to figure out who's actually a trade. I like that idea. Is that could be fun Yeah, we don't need to bring like great faithfuls. No, no And there are a few like really great faithfuls that you can throw in there, but I think if you have like the majority of the cast is people who wear traders. Yeah, it'll be a lot harder to decipher That would be really interesting too because I think they would overthink their way out of the game Yeah, because they'd be looking around like all right. We've got Siri fields here. We've got Rob We've got Rina. We've got you know pilot Pete like whoever it might be that was really good in those shows And then you're looking really like I could be this person could be that then you're looking like Dylan Efron And you're like it's probably Dylan Efron Yeah, and then like well when I was a trader I did this when I was a trader We're gonna get a lot of those discussions. Yeah, but uh, we'll see if it's all stars But we're looking forward to the normie season. I think they select castings done this month, right? I think it's next month. Okay, I believe I need to get my application filled out and we'll keep you guys posted on how I actually can't we can't So if we disappear for a week or two, I wonder if they would let us podcast Like we go back to the hotel. I don't see why we couldn't like I was still watching shows. I mean especially if they made us both traders I don't know because they I don't know how the sequestering works like I don't either. I'm not sure what the rules are to that whole thing but Anyway, so it's all I got you got anything else. Nope. 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