Maxx Crosby Is No Longer A Raven, Nate Tice Joins Us To Talk NFL Free Agency, World Baseball Classic, Hot Seat/Cool Throne And A Laser Tag Debate During Guys On Chicks

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Start your new routine and find every man, Jack, at Walmart, Target, Amazon, Kroger, or wherever men's personal care products are sold. Okay, let's go. My take, yeah, part of my take. Welcome to Part of My Take, presented by DraftKings. The crown is yours today. It's Wednesday, March 11th, and the Baltimore Ravens have ruined free agency. So we actually recorded the full show. You're going to get two intros. The other intro was Geno Smith leading off. but late on Tuesday night, the Raiders put out that Max Crosby, the deal has been rescinded because he potentially failed the physical in Baltimore. He was in Baltimore. I'm calling bullshit on all this, PFT. This is crazy. You can't do this. All the dominoes went for Max Crosby, and now they've got to redo everything, even though nothing's going to happen. Yeah, well, nothing's going to happen, But Tyler Linderbaum has the opportunity to do the funniest thing of all time. Which would be like, oh, the Ravens, you got all this room? I'll go back. It's weird, and it's not the first time that the Ravens have done this. One thing I learned through this ordeal is they really trust the doctors in Baltimore. Yeah. So this would be like the third, maybe even fourth time that it's happened. It happened to Ryan Grant in 2018. And then two years later, Michael Brockers, same thing happened there. and then there was one back in like the late 90s, I think, or maybe early 2000s where a similar thing happened. But, yeah, the deal's not done until the doctor's gone off. But, like, imagine being the team doctor after the biggest deal in a long time, that the Ravens have done in a very long time. As ever, you know, they shook hands on it. Max comes to Baltimore. You go under the exam and then you're like, yeah, he's got a bad meniscus. and then they tell the front office that, like that's got to be like standing on the table and being like, this physical is so bad, we shouldn't go through this trade. Either one, they really trust the doctor to believe them on that, or two, it's bullshit and it's made up and they're secretly planning a different move and they're using the physical as an excuse to get out of it. Trey Henderson. Yeah, the thing that I don't understand, I'm not a doctor, don't pretend to be one, and maybe there's different physicals for different guys, But Max Crosby had surgery like a month, two months ago. Of course he's not going to pass a physical, right? Yeah. I mean, he had a different surgery than he initially thought, but it's like everybody knew that he had the meniscus repair surgery. In January. That's a secret. It's three to four-month recovery, so it's like, no duh. Maybe did the Ravens just not realize he had the surgery, and then he came in? Maybe it's not healing the way that they thought it would heal. Like maybe Max Crosby is just that much of a maniac where he got surgery and then like a month later he's out there doing wind sprints and it's not healing. I don't know. But, yeah, it does seem like it would be convenient. I feel like any time you trade for a guy like this, you could always say at the last minute, yeah, we're not going to do it because of the physical. Right. And it is a ripple effect where other teams that were maybe in on Max Crosby, Cowboys, Eagles, Bears There's other teams that were I mean I think I even heard like the Bengals Called about him You don't know how much teams were actually in If they just kicked the tires But every other team that was potentially in on Max Crosby Having Max Crosby go to the Ravens Then having free agency start Going plan B all across the board Then Max Crosby Potentially could be traded again Which is crazy Or the Raiders could just keep him Maybe the Raiders were like hey, Max, I know you don't want to be here, but we signed like $300 million worth of dudes. We should be better, theoretically. You want to just stick around? Yeah, they still have cap space. They still have cap space, I believe. So, yeah, I mean, it's interesting because you said the Bengals. And if any owner would be interested in a scratch and dent open box Max Crosby, that would probably be the Bengals. Yeah. I got a great deal. Yeah, yeah, let's do it. It's just nuts because it was, and if you're a Ravens fan, that poor Ravens fan, I'm sure you guys saw it, who, shout out that guy. I'm going to find him. I think I retweeted him. He was Kyle Hamilton, D-P-O-Y. Yeah, yeah. Hamilton underscore D-P-O-Y. Nate, the Ravens fan. He tweeted, if the Ravens happen to trade for Max Crousby, I will completely shave my head. He did shave his head three hours ago. He posted it. And he does not look good bald. and then, like, he needs to do something about this. I think everyone should get in line. I don't know. I can't. I'm not plugged in enough to know exactly the inner workings, but it does feel like something's fishy here, and maybe it's just the Ravens using the loophole of, hey, we can see, we can trade for Max Crosby, see how the rest of free agency plays out, knowing that this stupid legal tampering and then official free agency, there's a two-day gap, and then just figure it out later. And that's what they're doing now. They can figure it out later. Yeah, I don't know. I guess we'll find out more after all the reports come out and when people leak select things to certain reporters. We'll get a better picture of what it is. But the statement that the Raiders put out said a lot, which is just like they backed out of the trade. We have no further comment. Yeah. I don't think that the Raiders put that statement out. if they find something genuinely concerning on the MRI, it's like, oh, his knee's really, really bad now, and it's not going to work out. That, to me, sounds like a pissed-off Mark Davis. Yeah. Hank, what if his knee's actually fucked up, and there's nothing nefarious? Maybe Tom Brady was doing the right thing? How so? Not training him for the Patriots? Maybe. I mean, I hope his knee, for his sake, is fine. I feel like it is. Well, now I'm just like, I don't, I said on Monday's show, like, I think it's stupid when you're in on a guy, if you're a fan of a team, you're in on a guy, and then you don't get him, and then you immediately cope by saying, oh, we didn't want him anyway. I was like, yeah, I did want Max Crosby. I wanted Max Crosby on the Bears. Now, I think I do. I don't know. Is he going to go for a first and second? I don't know. It's got to be somebody that's got a lot of job security as a GM, who's going to say, like, this is worth the chance. Because if they get it wrong, everyone's going to be like, yeah, no shit. The Ravens sent them back because they didn't trust it, and you thought you were smarter. But if you get it right, then you're a genius. So I think there will be teams that are interested. I don't know if the price is going to be the same, though. I also think that there should be a new rule for the digital era in NFL. If you post a 13-minute goodbye video on social media like Max Crosby did, that should just be trade final. You can't come back on that. Because it is the most, like, I actually am rooting for Max Trousy to be on the Raiders now. Because that would be so awkward and funny if he has to show up and be like, yeah, all that shit. Like, let's just pretend it never happened. I'm a Raider for life. So I'm coming home video tomorrow. Yeah. Does he get a tribute video when he goes back to the team facility? Well, does he get a tribute video if they play the Ravens this year? From the Ravens? Yeah, right. I'm saying with the guy just shaved head. Listen, if you do a 13-minute long goodbye to your team. That's fine. But you should also have to do a 13-minute goodbye video to Baltimore on your way back. Yeah, absolutely. And also, he's got long hair. Locks to love, man. You should cut that hair off. Give it to a fan that shaved their head. Yeah. Yeah, Max Crosby said, I'm so excited. I cannot wait to get out to the city and meet everybody. Talking about Baltimore. Well, he did for one day. And that was it. What do you think the value on Max is now? Like, you think that they're going to get the same that the Ravens offered? Is it like a used car the second you drive it off the lot, it goes down to value? I don't know how you could. I don't know how you possibly could get the same value. Like, it just won't. There's just no way someone's going to offer the same thing if the Ravens, you know, physical was a no. I mean, they could get two first rounders still, but it would be maybe a worse first rounder. You know what I mean? that was a lot of the conversation was the Ravens had the draft capital where it's like their, their pick is decent this year and not picking at the bottom. So it's so weird. This is, I mean, again, it's so weird because of the dominoes that go after that and everyone who makes their moves after and everyone who fills out their roster after. And now even, I mean, I guess the one thing you could say the Ravens didn't do this in like a nefarious way is they also missed out on some free agents because they thought they were going to have Max Crosby. That would be my argument for any conspiracy theorist that the Ravens did this intentionally. It's like they probably could have signed some guys that they weren't able to then sign because they had Max Crosby on the books. But if the Ravens did this intentionally, that would also just piss off their fan base. Their fan base got excited about Max Crosby joining them. Like, ask Stavi how he's doing. I'm sure it's not good. You want to call him real quick? Yeah, yeah, give him a call. I might want to check in. Just real quick. There's no way he's going to pick up. Because I texted him and he was like, he was so pumped. Yeah. So that sucks. If the Raiders were trying to, like, sweep one under the rug, I don't even understand how that would work because they were the ones that were pushing Max to get the surgery last year. Max was like, let me keep playing. You know, I don't think the Raiders would have. It makes no sense for the Raiders to sweep anything under the rug. I think he had surgery. I don't know. It was open. He had surgery. The whole thing is bizarre. I think it's, like, one of two things. One of two things. Hold on. I'm calling Stoddy. Hold that thought. He's not going to pick up. There's no way. Because this is like, there's only one reason I'd be calling, and it's like the troll call. He's probably, he's probably like in a sold out arena right now. What's going on, Hank? Victor Wormanyama Dirty. Yeah, no pickup. Okay. Yeah, he said he's, when I said congrats on Max Crosby, you fucker, he said he's the fucking man a perfect Raven. Nope. I guess he was. Not a Raven. I'm bummed that we don't get the Steelers-Ravens TJ Maxx matchup. Yeah. Okay, what were your two thoughts? So, it's one of two things, really. It's got to be... Oh, he just texted me back. In a car right now, unfortunately. But this sucks dick and is weird. That's my official statement. Sucks dick and is weird. Your official statement has been logged. This sucks dick and is weird. Okay, what were your two thoughts? Basically, either they found something fucked up that they didn't think was there, and it's within their rights to nullify the trade, and that's why this two-day period is so weird, because something like this can happen, and then nothing that has been reported over the last day actually has to happen. Nothing's final yet. So either one, they found something weird on the physical, and they're like, yeah, we can't do this. We can't justify it. Or two, they have been talking to somebody secretly this whole time, and it's been a ploy. In which case, I feel like that would really fuck up the Raven's ability to do deals like this in the future. Yeah. He probably just failed the physical. We're probably being too something's up. He probably isn't healing the way that they thought he was, and they're like, yeah, we're not going to do this. I pointed out that this is remarkably early. The Ravens usually wait until week three until their whole roster is injured. Yeah. Nat has so much hustle that he's injured before he even plays it down. Yeah. Now that I'm thinking about it, too, with the legal tampering, no deals can be signed until Wednesday, incredible window for anyone who has buyer's remorse. You just do this every time. Just be like, yeah, I'll give you this deal. And then just be like, ah, I slept on it. Oh, wait, furthermore, from Stavi, furthermore, if we don't acquire a pass rusher, I'm going to kill myself. Okay. Okay. Okay. So they got to get a pass. Ravens, you've heard his demands. Get a pass rusher. Okay, two last things real quick. We talked. So we're about to do the other intro of the show, talking about Geno Smith. We then talked some free agency. We got Nate Tice. We did mention that the Eagles hadn't signed anyone. After we finished recording, the Eagles did sign anyone or did sign someone. Should we just pretend that they hadn't signed anyone? still? Should we keep going? Give us your grade on Reek Wolland. Howie. Okay, that's the grade. The official grade is Howie. Yeah, I love it. Howie. Also, the last thing was Zach, that girl released official statement from Monday's show who said that she couldn't believe that debate happened. I think she wants to go on a date because she said, I don't know how guys listen to two and a half hours of this bullshit. Listen, Talia, we agree. Like, we agree that this is just junk that we're putting out there. But she was like, I respect the fact that that many people listen. So it sounds like you kind of got to ask her out on a date. I think she recognized we're putting a good product on the airwaves, Big Cat. No, she said the exact opposite. I thought she was backpedaling off saying that. No, no, no. She said it's insane that people listen to this show for as long as they listen to this show. But the fact that there's that many, she has to at least tip her cap to that. It was nice. Oh, I misread it. I thought it was like she thought it was so bad that it's so good. Maybe that is true. Well, I think she needs to just maybe give it another shot because today we've got guys on chicks, which is a segment that she might find more enjoyable than the others. Yeah. If you can't hit three point for you, Talia, if you can't handle us at our I show speed versus Trump, you don't deserve us with two 41 year olds and a 33 year old furiously debating the merits of laser tag. Okay, let's do the other intro. This is going to be fun. So here's our other intro. In sports, winning takes more than talent. 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He could be. I mean, of course we've got to start with this. Gino back to the Big Apple? Are you kidding me? It's huge. The Jets are the straw that stirs the drink in the NFL. It's huge. Are you excited, memes? I'm okay with it. Okay. It's a vet men deal. Better than any other choice out there right now. Yeah. Year two of the rebuild. That's just all I keep saying to myself. Year two of the rebuild. It's going to be a process. It's going to be a process. What is Max showing him? Jet sign Nashawn Wright. Oh. Okay. Okay. Do you want me to give you a little quick Nashawn Wright? I don't know. Me and Zach daffed him up. Yeah. At the Bears camp. Nashaun Wright, ball hawk, will make big plays, can get burnt a lot. Interception? Interception, yes. That's actually huge. I like Nashaun Wright. I think he had a very good year for the Bears. He's a good player. Ish. You have Nashaun Wright. You got Minka, right? Got Minka. So you guys have players that are capable of intercepting the football. Yep, got Demario Davis. That was big. And here's a text from Geno Smith. This is from his own fingertips. Complete full circle moment back to where it all began. I'm excited to connect with my new teammates and coaches and everyone in the building as well as build a new relationship with the fan base and community. What do you mean by connect? Connect. Not jaw to fist if that's what put his fist up. You troll. Yeah. That's fucked up, Hank. Come on, Hank. You said connect. He was excited to connect with his new teammates. We should talk about tomorrow, today, this morning, being 37 years old and still being in the NFL. It's pretty fucking impressive. Yeah. I mean, that's insane. It is. So, Memes, are you looking forward to building a new relationship with Geno? Yeah, I'm fired up at the time. All right. At the time. That's right now. The time is right now. You're fired up. You're fired up currently. At the time. At the time. At the time right now. It sounds like that's what you're going to say in September when you're like, I was fired up at the time. At the time, I was fired up. Memes, you have been lashing out. I've noticed a couple tweets that you put out there. Number one, Gino did the prayer emoji thing because the Jets tweeted out a video of this. This is where it all began, 2013. And then, Memes, you replied, I will upper deck any Wendy's for you. Yep. Care to elaborate on that? It's when you take a shit on the top of the toilet. I know what an upper deck is, yeah. When you flush it, it's supposed to explode. Why are you upper decking Wendy's? Wendy's was trashing him. Wendy's was trashing Geno. Geno, yeah, offered him a job. Yeah. Oh, I missed that one. So he was deciding between the Jets and Wendy's. Yeah, and Wendy's is broke right now. Okay. So good decision, Geno. And what about the Carson Wentz? Yeah, I saw a report that Carson Wentz is going to be the backup. So Geno Smith's starter, Carson Wentz, backup. Those are pro bowlers. I mean, Geno Smith can still play. 2017, that's a lethal roster. Yeah. I don't know what we're talking about. That's a good point by memes. It is true. Basically beat the Bears. Kickers. Basically beat the Bears. Pretty much beat the Bears. I actually think Gino's still going to be fine. I think that was a shit situation last year. We've agreed to forget that he was on the Raiders, that Pete Carroll was the coach. So as far as I'm concerned, Memes, you're taking Geno from the Seahawks, directly from the Seahawks to the Jets, and that's a good deal. Yeah, I picked a real bad day to wear all this Seattle stuff. Yeah, but this is a good deal. I think it's a good deal. I just don't know. And the way that it's breaking down, it feels like, so the Raiders are paying almost the entire salary, right? Yeah, and the reason why they traded for him is because the Vikings had interest in him. And if he went to the Vikings, everybody would just be saying, Kevin O'Connell's going to fix him. But now that he's on the Jets, people are just going to say, I can't imagine being a Jets fan. That's where you think that... That's where the anger comes from. Like, hypothetically, if something different had happened, then we would be reacting differently to it. But what's the situation that wouldn't have gotten this reaction? Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, Aaron Rodgers. No way. People say Hall of Famer could fix that problem. I'm not. Just like Geno Smith was already there. I'm not entirely sure what you mean, though. You're saying that it's not fair that the media would have said Kevin O'Connell will do a good job with Geno Smith. But because he signs with the Jets, people are like, oh, Geno Smith won't be a good quarterback for the Jets. That seems like really fair. But like Geno Smith has played for the Jets in the past. And Kevin O'Connell just won the Jets. And what happened? And what happened? And he wasn't very good for the Jets. What happened? He got punched. He got punched. He got punched, and then Ryan Fitzpatrick had a career year. Right, but Kevin O'Connell does have a track record of how's J.J. McCarthy doing. Right, but Sam Donald just won a Super Bowl. With another team. Right. I disavow that, by the way. He's the not- Just so we know. That's a bit- It's a bit far. It's a bit far. You're lashing out there. That's a bit far. Either way, fun free agency start. So we're going to get into everything with Nate Tice, where he breaks it all down. But the Raiders, Tyler Linderbaum, huge contract. Yeah. Which actually was a great contract for him because he's, I think he's 25 years old. He's going to be a free agent again, essentially, after two years. Or, like, after two years, he can basically say, I want an extension or, you know, get more money. So he's going to double dip again. He's going to dip again. Yeah. And I like that the Raiders got, there's certain teams that just needed to get competent guys on the roster. and it feels like the Raiders did that, it feels like the Jets did that, it feels like the Titans did that. It felt to me like the Raiders were just doing a full team transplant. Yeah. It's like our team was very bad last year. We're going to go out, we're going to spend $280 million to get people who weren't on the Raiders to be on the Raiders. Yep. And therefore, we should be a lot better at football. They did get some good players. Like Quiddie Paye, I think, is a good player. Yep. Linderbaum is a very good player. And every dollar spent by Tom Brady getting these types of good players is a dollar that is almost worth double because it's got the added bonus of keeping them all off the Patriots. Yeah. In fact, Memes, you should be excited about that. Like Tom Brady elected to trade Geno Smith to you because he knew that it would be bad for the Patriots if Geno Smith was in that division. That's a really good spin zone. Yeah. That is true, but Tom Brady also doesn't like the Jets. Right. Also true. Also true. Fair point. Do you guys want to do some winners? I thought the Panthers getting Jalen Phillips, even though it was a lot of money, I feel like you've got to do it. So much money. So much money, but cap went up, and I feel like you have to do those type of moves, especially when you are a playoff team from last year. Your defense was a problem. You have, like, a few defensive guys. You need to fill a lot of holes. He's young. He's versatile. The Eagles probably would have liked to have him back, right? Not at that price. Not at that price, but I'm saying the Eagles would have liked to have him back. They were trying to get him back, and then the Panthers gave him that price, and then I was like, all right, fine, we'll take another third. Like, I actually – We just get third-round picks every year. But if I were a GM – by the way, the compensatory picks are bullshit. The Bears got absolutely screwed with the Ian Cunningham thing where Matt Ryan basically said, I'm not making any of the decisions. And we'll just get rid of the system if that's the case. But the Panthers, I like to move for Jalen Phillips. I would have – if I were a GM in the NFL, I would just try to copy my work off of all the good GMs. Like, I'd be like, oh, Howie wants to re-sign Jalen Phillips, I'll give him more money. Slightly, yeah. Yeah, like, just any good GM, if they're interested at all, I'd just be like, well, here's a little bit more money. Mm-hmm. Right? It's kind of a sound strategy. I think it was a lot more money. A lot more money. Sometimes you've got to pay a lot more money for it. Also, all these, we say this every year, all these contracts are just, they mean nothing right now. Like, the max amount of money gets reported, and then they get into the details and it's like, oh, they can cut him after two years? I'm seeing more and more of the total value and then guaranteed. The total value one is just completely made up. It's just totally made up. $190 million with $25 million guaranteed. I think, you know what, I'm going to consider that a job, a war won by us against the NFL media over the last 10 years. When we started the show, nobody reported the guaranteed money. We could never figure it out. And idiots like us complained enough and told the NFL reporters, the Rappaports and the Schefters of the world, that when you report these contracts, we know. We're on to you. The agents are telling you it's $150 million. It's really only $40 million. Can we please get the real numbers? We won that war. Congratulations. Yeah. The Jalen Phillips contract is $120 million reported. It's $80 million guaranteed. Which is a good amount. That's a lot of guaranteed money. It's definitely a good amount, but it's like that's not $120 million that we initially saw. Okay, other winners from free agency. I think I would put the Falcons just because they got all the left-handed quarterbacks. They got all the left-handed players. They've cornered the market. I don't really know what to say other than that with the Falcons because they – I just still can't believe the course of events that have occurred with the Falcons and the fact that they signed Kirk Cousins to a ton of money, drafted Michael Penix, who's been injured his whole career, then got injured, and then they're like, well, then we'll get Tua. It's the funniest thing. It's great. It's very funny. I think that they are, and we're going to talk about it a little bit with Nate Tice, but they've got a left-handed center. And I think they were the only team that had a left-handed center and left-handed quarterback. Now they've got a left-handed quarterback and a left-handed backup quarterback to go along with their left-handed center. It's a weird fit. I don't think that Tua can throw the ball downfield at all, but he can do swing passes to Bajon and that's pretty much what they're going to ask him to do there. Maybe his hip can get better. I don't think that Tua is going to... Well, he's got a mechanical robot hip. I don't think it's going to get that. I think what we saw from Tua is what we're going to get. The Dolphins signing Malik Willis. I'm happy for Malik Willis to get that money. Part of me is like... It does feel like Malik Willis went from a bad situation in Tennessee to a good situation in Green Bay and potentially back to a bad situation in the Dolphins. But he's getting paid this time. Do you know what I mean? It's going to be a little bit harder for him to have the impact, maybe I'll be proven wrong, with a rebuilding roster like the Dolphins. Right. But the Dolphins GM and Jeff Hathaway are both from the Packers. They got to see him up close. They seemingly like him. They get to see him more than everyone else saw him. So it feels like a decent bet. It's more like, would you be shocked if Malik Willis in two years is like, what happened? Why wasn't he the same guy that he was with the Packers? Like, well, he went to the Dolphins and they're rebuilding. Right. I think Bobby Slowick's their offensive coordinator, and he's been competent at times. I know some Texans fans might disagree with that, but he's had at least a few good years where he was like the next hot young head coach. Willis' time in Green Bay, it's like, it's not going to get any better than that, I don't think. No. That's probably like, but if you got that Malik Willis from Green Bay, if you were guaranteed of that, then he would get paid like a top-tier quarterback. Oh, yeah, definitely. He played amazing when he got in Green Bay. I think it's kind of a low-risk situation for the Dolphins where they didn't break the bank for him. No, yeah, definitely. They paid him a good amount of money, and he's like the best possible bridge quarterback that you can have. And if he's really good, then you can figure out a way to re-sign him, and that'll be great. And if he's bad, you'll just drop. If he's bad, it's like whatever. We're used to having bad quarterbacks. Yeah, we'll be in the draft. the Rams I think did the best job in terms of filling their two immediate holes of both cornerback positions instantly Chiefs Kenneth Walker I think that's a great signing again we're going to get into all of it in detail and Nate Tice knows a lot more football than we do so he breaks down exactly what he thinks of every signing I also thought I kind of like the move when Harbaugh with the Giants I needed a couple Ravens on my team just to keep a little continuity. They got Isaiah Likely, and I think they also got the punter, who's a very good punter, Jordan Stout. Yeah, and I also liked what the other Harbaugh did. He got Alec Ingold as a fullback. So now he had Matlock out in Los Angeles as a fullback, a fullback that didn't really play offense. He was a defensive lineman, and he would send them out there and occasionally be like, hey, turn around and act like you're going to catch a pass. Alec Ingold may be the best fullback in football, and it was the most fullback move ever when he signed with the Chargers. He signed. He's now the co-leading fullback in terms of payment. I love that. He's like, you know, a lot of guys will be like, give me $1 more so I can say I'm the highest paid fullback. Not Alec Engle. That's not the fullback way. Yeah. He's tied for it. There are four teams right now who have not done anything. Jaguars, Broncos, Eagles, Seahawks. Who's going to be the first to do something? The Broncos didn't do anything? Not yet. Did they re-sign Singleton? I'm saying free agents. Okay. Like, free agents off, not on their team signing them. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Not counting re-signing guys existing on their roster. Because, yeah, Travis Etienne went to the Saints, which I love for our guy Shuck. Love for our guy Shuck. Who's going to be the first? Are the Eagles going to do anything, Max? Just wait and see? Yeah, they'll do something. I mean. Are the commanders going to sign our water two for PFC? We might. What was that? The little smile. I mean, Brandon Ayuk, he's the guy that, the most talented wide receiver in this class. I think we're probably zeroed in on him. Why are you smiling like that? I just, I read a couple of reports. I was waiting for PFT to bring it up, but Patriots signed Romeo Dobbs. What reports? He chose the Patriots over the Commanders. Oh. Oh. That was the report? Yeah. Was it money? No. What was it? Quarterback. Seems racist. Okay, congrats. That's racist. that's not going to erase this guy if that's your thing I mean maybe New England you know some history there but wait so you're saying Romeo Dobbs is the guy that has to like buy prescription wear a guardian cap everywhere he goes and in the shower because he's had so many concussions he thinks that that Drake May is better than Jane Daniels that guy does yeah okay you want to ask like Amanda Bynes or Joe Biden what they think some other intellectual titans no I'm just I was There's an input on your comment on the report. Oh, let's not see Romeo Dobbs' brain now. I'm just saying. The guy, he's known for having the biggest guarding cap in the league. What's wrong with that? He's saying he can't think anymore. I'm just saying, like, that's the guy that you're trusting his judgment. Okay. I'm not. I'm just, like, telling you what the report was. Yeah. Okay, so he's reporting. Okay. All right. He's just doing reporting. No, I'm fine with that. I think that there's better receivers out there than Romeo Dobbs. What if they also choose the Patriots over the Commanders? Then you're going to have a lot of receivers. That'd be good. what were you just listening to Max did you have a report I liked I thought what the commanders did was good you got a defensive end Owe yeah Owe's a beast Shane was very upset about that yeah I like Owe we may have paid him a lot of money but sometimes you gotta pay to play you gotta pay to play 4 years 100 million dollars 68 million guaranteed for Owe you gotta just pay to play so I like it but yeah hey congratulate Romeo, great wide receiver when he plays. Yeah, I'm excited. He's young. Fast. Still probably need to get someone else, but... Who do you want? AJ Brown. Yeah. Is Max going to give him to you? You know the price. You know the price. The price is the price. Two second rounders. I feel like the price... Two second rounders, he will be an eagle. I feel like the price might not be the price, Max. What do you mean? The price is the price. The price might not be the price. Well, no, whatever the price goes for, that's what the price was. You're talking about capital T, capital P, the price. I'm talking about lowercase p price. Then he will come back. Because I don't think that Howie Roseman wants to have another year of A.J. Brown. He would have traded him already if it was that. The price is the price. The price is the price. You see what I'm saying? Even if he gets traded for like a seventh rounder, that would be the price. Yeah, but that's lowercase P. Max has an uppercase P in his mind right now. The big price. What's the big price, Max? The price is the... It starts with the first round pick. It starts with the first round pick. And realistically, it's probably a 20... If the Patriots won, it's a 2027 first round pick, not 2026. Mm-hmm. Why is that? Because their first round pick this year is basically a second round pick. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. are you going to be having any more changes on defense, Max? Losing any more? See, this is a problem that I guess you don't really understand. When you draft really good players all the time, you have to pay really good players all the time. Are you hands-playing it to them? That's why sometimes you lose guys in free agency because we have too many good guys. I know. I get that. That's why I'm wondering if you're planning anything else. I know. I saw what you were trying to do. Yeah, we have a plan. We have a plan. What's the plan? The plan is to make sure that the core of this defense stays put. We have to make sure that we can retain the core of this defense. If that means that we are losing some guys, you can't sign everyone. That's how the NFL works. That's how the cap works. Howie's going to figure it out. Vic Fangio's going to figure it out. We're going to put together another successful defense. We lost a shit ton of guys last year on the defense, and then we came back and still had a top defense this year. Yeah, so you're keeping the core. Who is the core? Jordan Davis, Cooper DeGene, Quinian Mitchell, probably Jalen Carter. He's probably the core. Probably. He's not like a nuclear guy at Chernobyl. He's probably the core. Yeah, he's probably the core. And if not, we'll get a fuck ton of assets back for him. Yep. Compensive. You've got to think about the future while also competing for the present. Yeah. That's what good programs do. We've got four picks back this year. That's what it's all about. And we draft well. Yeah. It fact Max I was honestly just trying to talk ball with you and you seemed like you were getting upset Well no you were doing your thing I know exactly what you were doing I was just curious Hank was doing his thing to PFT then PFT turned around and did it to Max Yes. Shut Hank up because he realized how racist he was being. I didn't do anything. I nearly reported a report. How many K's in Hank? One. One. My name's Henry. It is. I love the name Henry. Thank you. I like what the Bears did, too. Kobe Bryant. That's kind of cool. Yeah, it is. Sounds like Kobe Bryant. I mean, he's a good player, but yeah. No, he's a very good player. And Devin Bush, who should be, like, it's a fine free agent. I'm actually happy that it's not a, we're not in a spot where we have to be a Raiders and just sign everyone. You know? It's like, hey, a couple good, now it's time for drafts. Now it's go time in the draft. Zach, how are you feeling about Mike Evans no longer being a one-Jersey guy? I really wanted to see Mike Evans retire as a Tampa Bay Buccaneer. You know, he provided a lot of joyful moments on Sundays watching the Bucs. But he's not. But he's not. He's going out to California. I mean, there's a couple different reasons maybe why he left. A lot of guys are saying. Who's like losing their son to go pursue the dreams of being an actor. And you're like, stay on the farm, son. Yeah, I mean, I thought he left. I thought he was getting paid. I was like, all right, yeah, good for him. I thought he was getting $3.60, but I guess the guaranteed money is like $16 million. He's going to pay a lot of taxes out there. Wouldn't have paid all those in Florida. It seems personal. I'm thinking maybe him and Todd Bowles just don't – maybe they just weren't meant to be. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is what I think it really comes down to. I think so. Yeah, I think a lot of Mike Evans, and so that would fit nicely with what I think about him. Mm-hmm. See, I don't feel good about it at all, no. How could you? Yeah. I don't also, the Michael Pittman Steelers, I feel like they're just gearing up for Aaron Rodgers to come back. Yeah, I mean, are they going to do Will Howard? Because that seems like it's their only other option. Yeah, Will Howard next year. Will Howard? Will Howard next year. Yeah, they have to be thinking that Aaron's going to come back. Yeah. Right? If you're getting, this is a perfect Aaron Rodgers guy, that's a guy. Yes. You just want to run short patterns? Yes. You want to think and dunk? Let's do that. Yes. Did you see, I think. It is cool that Pittsburgh got a guy named Pittman. That is cool. That's pretty badass. It sounds like a superhero. That's underrated. Pittman. You're right. Did you guys see... Oh, shit. I wish I bookmarked it. I think on day one of NFL free agency... Oh, yeah. Final tally. Adam Schefter, 27. News breaks. Tom Pelissaro, 14. Mike Garofalo, 7. Jordan Schultz, 4. Ian Rapport, 4. Other 10. 27-4 between Schefter and Rappaport. That's kind of wild. That's a blowout. Yeah. Is Schefter in his prime? I think he might be in his prime right now. Like, honestly, running up the score a little bit. Bad sportsmanship by Schefter. Like, that's a blowout. That's a blowout. That's an absolute. I remember when it used to be a competition. No longer a competition. How many of those were by, like, 10 seconds? I don't know. And they also have been increasingly low on details. Like, the news breaking now has to be first by a matter of seconds that they all just break the news, then update the news, like, five minutes later. He updates the tweet. He goes back and, like, edits the tweet, but my tweet got up first. That shouldn't count. You should not be able to report it until you have all the details. I think you can report it, but the report has to stay up. You can't change it. Yeah. You just have to live with it. Yeah. Okay. Like I said, we're going to get into all the free agency with Nate Tice, and he actually breaks it down in a smart way instead of us just kind of egging each other on to say something. Before we get to the rest of the show, DraftKings, every year the Players' Championship humbles the best players in the world. 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Durant came out of retirement just saying, Paul Skeens is a dog, which I said right away is like, it's such a layup. It's like tweeting, ice cream is good. Everyone will agree with Paul Skeens is a dog. Yeah, so he gave Kevin Durant a beautiful re-entry point into the Twitter world, where obviously all the replies are just like, hey, man, are you ever going to talk about the fact you trash people online? But it doesn't matter. We're talking about USA. We're talking about Paul Skeens being a dog. Yeah, it's like you're not being patriotic if you bring up old shit on Kevin Durant. Right, exactly. Why can't you just admit that Paul Skeens is currently a dog right now? Yes, yes. He was a dog. And he also paid, I don't know if you caught this part of the broadcast, He paid for a bunch of F-35 pilots to be there. Love that. And a couple, I think, C-130s, too. There were just pilots all over the stadium last year. Nice. We also had the Cal Raleigh Randy Arosirena beef, which I love. So there's Seattle Mariners teammates. Randy goes up to him to give him a little tap when he comes up to the plate. Cal Raleigh says, nah, dude, we're in the World Baseball Classic. This shit means something to me. And then I think it might be kind of real beef. I didn't think that it was at first. I thought that it was like a teammate rolling up and he's got like pine tar on his hand. So he's trying to fuck with Cal Raleigh, trying to get him to dap him up. But then I saw the comments from Rosarino afterwards. And he says the only thing that Raleigh should be thankful for is having such great parents. He's well educated. I was lucky enough to see them a few days ago at the hotel. They came over to greet me, give me a big hug. They were genuinely proud to see me again. then he said, Raleigh needs to fuck off, go to hell. That good to see you bullshit that he said to me, he can shove it straight up his ass. I'm out. Was that kind of like a weird mafia threat where he's like, I saw your parents. Your parents look great. I know what your parents look like. Yeah, he should be, the only thing he should be thankful for is his two lovely parents who are staying currently in room 207 of the same hotel that I am. I love this because I want, I think everyone going into the World Baseball Classic is like, The only thing we don't want is for it to feel like an all-star game. We want it to be real bad blood. These guys are about to start the season. So, Cal, thank you. Cal Raleigh, thank you. You gave it the juice we need, and I'm down for it. I don't want this juice. I didn't think that Raleigh would be the guy to do it because he is such a nice guy. I know. But, like, everybody's got to do something. He didn't get any hits last night, so I'm glad he stirred this up a little bit. He's an American hero. He is an American hero for that. It was crazy to see Aaron Judge putting a team on his back in a situation that doesn't really matter. Yeah. But he did it again last night. Oh, it did. Like you said, it did matter at one point. We're just like, oh, shit. This could be a close game. And so tonight we have USA against the Italians, right? Max? For the winner of Pool B. Max, who are you rooting for? It's got to be the Americans. But what if the Italians win? Well, I think the Americans still advance. No, I know. But what if the Italians win? will you tweet maybe one Italian flag? No. Okay. You won't be, you're not celebrating at all. It is funny because Team Italy is just all Americans. Oh, yeah. All Americans. They're just like New Jersey Italians. Our guy Vinny. So every team is just different Americans. Well, not Japan and like Dominican Republic. But like all of the... Yeah, yeah. The teams that can't fill out full rosters. Czechia is just pretty much people from the Czech Republic. Did you see that guy? Yeah. You pitched four innings today. Scoreless. He's an electrician. It was incredible. Well, he's an unbelievable electrician. He shut out Japan for four innings, and then the Tokyo Dome gave him, like, a standing round of applause when they pulled him out of the game. Just a nation that loves ball. That was going to be my cool throne is baseball takes in 50 years. What about it? Like, if you're talking about Shohei, you can literally say he was just playing against electricians. Yeah. Good point, Hank. That's a great point, yeah. Was he that good? Hank, that's... He got shut out by an electrician. That's somebody from PFT. PFT, you should have said that first. I should have. That's something that you should do. No, they won't. You may have lost his ass. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. First of all, that's bullshit because you're not giving credit to Hank. Yeah. You're making this about me. No, but that's... No, I don't like that. No, that's... We should be celebrating Hank for coming up with an awesome fucking joke. No, it is. It's a great joke. Yeah, great joke. Is he tired Hank Wired? No, Hank... When Hank first said that, get a little bit in the back of your mind, be like, fuck, I should have thought of that. I was too busy doing the Yankees joke last night. I like that one. Yeah. There's a Mets England fan. That poor guy. Mm-hmm. That poor bastard. But Hank, great joke. Yeah. Spent enough time together. She rubs off. Yeah. Now I'm skipping work on Mondays to play golf. Yeah. Hank's making puns. It's a beautiful thing. You guys golfing this weekend? Buzzing. Last step. Me and Hank are back to being on great terms together. Definitely love that. Congrats on the Romeo Dobbs. Thank you. He's a great player. Just don't ask him to catch any onside kicks. Have you changed your stance on the Celtics' future? Have you done anything with that after being called a coward? Well, listen, I cast that out because of Hank's crying. Right. His tears. Yep. We know that. And so I've got another plan, but I'm not going to be doing a future on the Celtics. Okay. That's a win. My plan will not be to put the future on the Celtics to win. When I make the bet, you'll be the first to know, Hank. By the way, I do appreciate the NBA every now and then having a game where you're like, oh, yeah, like Wemby Friday night, and then last night or Monday night was Jokic and SGA, which was incredible. Celtics killed Wemby tonight. Oh, this is a pre-take. Yep. Pre-take. But, yeah, SGA was. Another classic. What, he tied Wilt for most 20-point games in a row? Most consecutive 20-point games. What is it, like 100-something? It's crazy. In a row? That's actually insane. Insane. And he had a 35-15-9, and Jokic had, I think he had a triple-double. Yeah, he had 32-14-13. It went down to the last shot. Oh, yeah, this is awesome. As a Lou Dort apologist, do you have any comment about the flying elbow that he put? I think Jokic's face shouldn't have been there. Okay. Jokic's face attacked Lou Dort's elbow. Would you say that if Jokic's brothers were here? Yeah, I would. Okay. Where are they? In this room? Let's bring them in. Do they speak fluent English? No, I think that's what you've got to do for your guy, Lou Dort. Yeah, no. No matter what. So if they don't speak fluent English, I would definitely say the same thing. Listen, Lou Dort goes hard. What are you going to do? He does. It was a great game. He's playing hard basketball, and sometimes elbows end up in people's faces in weird spots. Yeah, he lost control of his arm. He lost control of his left arm for a brief second. What do you think about SGA's press conference after the game? He had a pretty cold line. Yeah, what was it? It was something like, I've got all the answers to the test, but first I have to look at the questions. Yeah. That is a cold line. I have answers to the test, but I've got to see the questions first. Yeah. And he's got cool sunglasses. He's got cool shades. Very 1980s look out of him. I like this look better than the last one where it looked, yeah. He was wearing the parka. Mm-hmm. Okay, any other sports things before we do hot seat, cool throne? Which I know will hit some more. Conference Championship Week. Caleb Foster might be out for the entire tournament. I already said sorry. Yeah. It looks like he's got a broken foot. Maybe the Jones fracture. I already said sorry. Yeah, we did this already. Yeah, no, I said sorry. No, but the report got updated today. Yeah. And I said sorry. and I continue my sorry. My sorry stays. It is interesting the way they're wording everything, though. No, I think with him, he's out for the tournament. They haven't used that terminology. What have they said? They're saying that he's out for the foreseeable future. Everything I'm seeing is foreseeable future. I have not seen that he's out for the season. If it's the Jones fracture, of which I am a survivor, Max, aren't you a survivor? Shire announced that... Oh, never mind. Read it, read it, read it. What do you say? No, no, no, no. What do you say? No, no, no. Read it. No, no, no. Because there was a report today, right? Nope. Yeah. Max, how fast did you come back? Max was great. Oh, okay. I'm happy to be wrong. I just thought it was interesting. I wish you were wrong. Wait, which side are you on, Max? Goodman's got some. I don't know. I just feel like the wording, foreseeable future, is weird. Like, why wouldn't you just say, out for the season? I mean Duke's so good it doesn't really matter see like like ESPN foreseeable future well that is true he's out for the foreseeable yeah it's true he is out for the foreseeable future okay how long is the foreseeable future though that's what I'm saying I don't know the way this crazy world is could be tomorrow the next day Maybe. If we even wake up tomorrow. Kyle Sandman. Injuries suck. They do. Especially this time of year. I don't want them. I want just a clean tournament. I want the best on best. That's what I want. And I really wish he was fine. Hopefully he'll be back. Yeah. Let's just hope he's back. Be an awesome story. Be an awesome story. Can you imagine? Final four. Caleb Foster returns for the Final Four. Then Duke loses in the Final Four. What an amazing story that would be. No, don't do that. Come on, dude. I'm sorry. That was, come on. Okay, let's do Hot Seat Coulterone. Brought to you by Jose Cuervo. When Cuervo enters, every moment just gets better. You find yourself in the center of the dance floor. You can't help but stand up and high-five those around you at the game. The room reacts like it just got the same text at the same time. You stop checking the time. Suddenly, small talk. escalates to laughing so hard you can barely catch your breath. 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So stock up for game day and tear into the new Buffalo Wild Wing chicken sticks from Slim Jim. I'm going to open one and take a bite right now. I'm going to snap in. I'm going to snap in. Snap in. Oh, that's really good. There you go. I love this. All right, Hank, your hot seat cool throw. My hot seat is you, big cat. Uh-oh. Why? I don't want to give free publicity to the competition, but your co-host, PFT, has found a new friend to debate sports with. Careful. Who? And he spent, I don't know, three hours this morning? No, not three hours. Just dishing back and forth cakes. With who? It was an AI app of a competitor. There's an AI competitor that you can have a conversation with and talk sports. The Colin Coward app? Yeah. That's a colleague. Yeah, we got into it pretty much this morning. But it was one of those things like mutual respect. Like it was two great boxers getting into the ring for 12 rounds. At the end of it, we each hold each other's arms up. We step off. And we're just happy to be sharing the same space as the other guy. So Colin Coward sold all of his data to AI. That's kind of fucked. It's worth it. He can make a divorce reference out of anything. I was pushing the limits of this thing. That's crazy. So it's just an AF... How does it work? I sit down. I make sure Big Cat's not around. And then I start... I open up the app. Isn't this the... And I say, feed me a hot take, Colin. And then I disagree with him. I say, how does this relate to Blockbuster Netflix? Was this the... Isn't this like the Joaquin Phoenix? Like her or whatever? falls in love with a robot? It was, I've never, like, I saw it, and I was like, this is ridiculous. Who's going to use this app? And then I'm not joking. PFT was debating with it for, like, 45 minutes. It was about 45. Well, I was also asking it, like, you know, give me some Jets takes, and then Memes was getting upset with the AI. Oh, no. And then I was playing in Shane's ear about the Chargers, and Shane actually, like, got mad like it was a person, and he started arguing with my phone. Do you have any saved? I don't know if you can save them. I took some video. Oh, let me play a video real quick. Hear this. I don't know. I feel like there's a lot of office chatter. Okay. Okay. See where he's doing this all morning? Oh, man. I am worried. I am worried. That's not true, Colin. So you can talk to it? Yeah, but I was thinking about you the whole time. I swear. Wait, you can talk to it? How does that work? Yeah, you have an engaging back and forth. This is not an ad, by the way. No, I know. I don't think that too many people are going to absolutely, like, it would be a very sad person that's, like, at home by themselves arguing with AI Colin Coward. Like you were going to do. I was doing it behind Hank. I was also, like, after 30 minutes of doing it, I thought to myself, like, this is like me taking batting practice before I get into the studio. When the lights go on and it's game time. But, yeah, me and Colin had a dynamic back and forth. I did. I beat him in the debates, though. Hank even said a few times, like, you broke it. You did? Yeah. Well, the longer sometimes it takes a long time to answer. I was like, we almost beat Coward. Colin can't fuck with me. Okay. So you have nothing to worry about Big Cow. How much did that cost? It was free. Oh. Is there upgrades you paid for? I might have to pay some money. Yeah, it's OnlyFans for Colin Coward. Okay. Then my cool throw is respecting women. Yeah, hell yeah. Yeah, the Atlanta Hawks canceled Magic City Night. Thank God. It would have been disgusting, bad for the kids. So I'm happy they saw... What about the wings? The error of their ways and canceled this night. I'm just happy. Yeah. Women. You're happy? Luke Cornett, hero, respecter of women. good stuff. I think next Monday we should make it Magic City Night and part of my take. Did you see someone pointed out that there is now like the greatest three merch items that have never been released are sitting in Atlanta somewhere. 2020 was supposed to be the final four when COVID happened. 2021 was the MLB All-Star game. Remember the bathroom thing and they moved it? and then Magic City. They already made the sweatshirts. Whoever has those three is King. The Magic City sweatshirts were awesome. I want it. Not Hank. You can't wear it. No, fuck no. You're such a fucking prude, dude. Why are you afraid of titties? I love titties. I love kissing titties. I love seeing titties, but I also care about the kids and the NBA being a sport, an all-inclusive sport. I also saw someone had a nice checkmate where they're like, I would much rather have to explain to my kids what Magic City is than what this statue is, and it was just a picture of Carl Malone. Oh, at a jazz game? Yeah. Or like, why is this team called the Jazz? Yeah. Yeah, again, I think that the most offensive thing to the kids was Atlanta Hawks basketball. And so Magic City being there. Hope you feel good. You're canceling Karen. That's what you are, just so you know. You're canceling Karen. If you don't like it, then just don't go to it. No, you're canceling Karen. Yeah, close your eyes, bro. What if you're a diehard Hawks fan with a young kid? Close your eyes. I do think that that scenario is maybe my favorite scenario. A young Hawks family from rural Georgia that scrimps and saves up $75 a year to buy a ticket. They finally got their ticket to the game, and it's on that Monday. They bought it like five months ago. Come on, y'all. Get in the car. We're going to go see our Atlanta Hawks now. It's Tate Farm Arena. They drive across the state. They get in, and they're like, what is Magic City? Like, that is the funniest possible scenario, and I'm upset that that didn't happen to anybody. But you also have to remember that that person would have been more upset about Paolo not playing for load management. True. So, they were already upset. Yeah. Yeah, the mental twist. I just, listen, find this canceled, just own the fact that you are canceling Karen. No. Okay, well, you are. I'm not. Yeah, you are. I'm a supporter of women and Luke Cornett. Mm-hmm. And if that's wrong, I don't want to be right. Why don't the Atlanta Hawks simply have a game at Magic City? That way everybody that goes to the game is opting in to going to the game. They're not going to show up to a basketball game and be subjected to strip clubs. They don't want cameras in there. You know what? I'm going to find Luke Cornett's sub stack. I'm going to subscribe, and I'm going to start making a list of things. I don't think you have to subscribe. Okay, well, I'm going to start making a list of things that you should probably follow Luke Cornett in your life. Okay. Okay. What does that mean? I'm sure he's got rules for everything Okay Being the fucking man Is that what it is? Yeah, funny guy Let's get him on Would love to I'm taking my shirt off Nah You don't want him? Nah The guy's blog got an entire night cancelled Yeah I would say this is anti-respective women I agree You have to admit that Like, tip of the cap to the power of his blog. The pen is mightier than the sword, as they say. Yeah, cancel culture is real. It is anti-respecting women. You're right, memes. Yeah. We wanted to promote people going to this club, giving these women more money. Right. You're basically shaming the women being like, oh, this is a line of profession that shouldn't be celebrated whatsoever. Luke Cornett wants to suppress women. Yeah. Not cool. They're earning money. Hank. How about increase the wage gap, Luke Cornett? Oh, yeah. How about fucking go through the glass ceiling, Luke Cornett? We respect women. You want to address the pink tax, Luke Cornett? Uh-huh. Yeah. Get their ass back. Yeah, let's go. Also, happy belated International Women's Day. Yeah. Didn't see you tweet about that, Hank. No, I didn't. Yeah, exactly. Every day is International Women's Day for me. So you just never tweet about it? I don't tweet. I don't tweet, period. Mm-hmm. That's not true. I tweet about this show. Because I have to. Mm-hmm. Because you have to. Yeah. It's called your job. Or else no one's going to know what came out. You were excited about Marquette Nation the other day. You tweeted about that. That was a callback to this show. You're more excited about Marquette than you are about women. I'm not a tweeter. Yeah. Yeah. I'm an exister. Sometimes. If you guys let me. An exister. By the way, Hank, do you want to put a little something on? where's the Big East tournament? Why can't I find the Big East tournament? I already did. It's in Madison Square Garden. No, I know, but I... Fuck yeah, Max. Alright, Max. You already put it on to win? 65-1. I don't see it. It was up there last night, probably because the game's going on. No, I haven't started yet. Alright, I'll find it. Hopefully. Okay, your cool turn? it was respecting women oh yeah that's right I already forgot it because you're just lying okay PFT your hot seat my hot seat is what I'm lying about what you don't respect women you're white knighting they're not going to fuck you bro they're strippers okay they're not going to strippers love me oh yeah they always tell me that yeah not anymore you just took away a fun night for that Hank might be banned from most strip clubs in America now Do not serve this customer. Have fun on Max's bachelorette party. Bachelorette party. Yeah. We got to get him in a fucking white cowboy hat. We should all wear matching shit. Have a scavenger hunt on Max's shirt. White cowboy hat. Oh, man. Okay. PFT? My hot seat is the rest of the PGA Tour. Because Brooks, a little stat that went way under the radar, Brooks switched up his putter at the Cognizant for the final round. Okay. And Brooks shot the lowest round out there. He shot 65 on Sunday. Okay. And nobody's talking about it because he didn't win. They didn't play last weekend. But quietly, Brooks Koepka is playing maybe the best golf of his last, what, three years? Mm-hmm. And so this week he's back at the players. His one issue that he's had at the players is hitting the island green at 17. Hit it during his practice round. Stuck it. Let's go. So that and the new putter that he's got. Brooks. I feel like Brooks might be back this week. Brooks, let's go. I'm very excited about Brooks coming back. Fifth major? Would you guys actually be mad if they made it a fifth major? The players? Yeah. I think it should be the fifth major. Like, how do you make it to fifth major? I think the PGA just makes it the fifth major. What about the, what about the, what is it, Farmers Insurance? Oh, the Travelers? Travelers, sorry. What about the Travelers? Are you talking about the NBA Finals? What about the John Deere? That's the debate that's going on right now. Well, I guess that could just be the sixth. Well, we've been calling everything the fifth major. Right. I know. But if they made an actual major the fifth major, that would be tough for you guys. Why? Because you call everything the fifth major. Right. Well, then just switch to the sixth major, which is what I call Bay Hill. Because I've been low-key saying that the players is the fifth major consistently. So now my mind's already moved on to the next one, so I'll be ready for that if that day comes. But, yeah, the players, he's got a lot of juice. A lot of the guys treat it like it's major. The Island Green, the iconic 17th. And Brooks is ready to go. Okay. Hank, who do you got this weekend? Brutes. Ludwig. Two? Yeah. How about Max? Max. Always Max. Nice. All right, your cool throne? My cool throne is just calling things the next Sam Darnold. I've just heard so many next Sam Darnolds all week. If you're talking about a quarterback, he's the next Sam Darnold. Every team's looking for the next Sam Darnold. I think we should just make it, regardless of what sport or what athlete. It should just be anything in the world. Anything that used to be. Fast forward to later on this episode, laser tag might be the next Sam Darnold. But regardless of anything that you got, if it's something you used to enjoy back in the day, I'm overloaded with hearing people say the next Sam Darnold. Too many Sam Darnolds out there. The next Sam Darnold. Okay, my hot seat is Dak Prescott, who we talked about on Monday, but the email leak that he sent all of his guests for his wedding. He's got to get better friends. That sucks. Someone sold it to TMZ. It said, I mean, it was innocuous, so it's not a big deal, but it still kind of sucks. As many of you know, our wedding is currently scheduled to take place in Lake Como, Italy, on Friday, April 10, 2026. It is with heavy hearts that we privately inform our attendees that we have made the very difficult decision to cancel our wedding. We deeply apologize for any inconvenience this may cause you, and we welcome your prayers. Sarah Jane Ramos and Dak Prescott. That sucks that someone sold the email to TMZ. That fucking sucks. is nothing sacred anymore? Hank, where do you land on the prenup situation? What do you mean? Rumor has it had nothing to do with the prenup. But I'm just asking Hank in general. I know, I'm just letting Hank, I'm giving Hank that out there. In terms of what? Prenups. He's for or against? I'm for. Okay. Okay. If you really love someone The money shouldn't matter Yeah, that's a good point And who cares if she makes more than her Then you would be against Yeah, because the prenup would mean the money matters If you're for a prenup That means that if you get divorced You keep your money If you make more than her Right And if you don't have a prenup, that means the money does not matter. 50-50. Right. And what's mine is yours. Right. What's yours is mine. We built this together. That's true. Beautiful thing. Okay. So where do you stand on prenup? I'm against. You're against prenup. Because if you're getting married, you're getting married to be together forever. Right. So. And you don't think women or men could, like, would get married for nefarious reasons to try to steal money? Right. Right. Well, no. Oh. I'm saying for me personally. Oh. Other people, it's a case-by-case basis. Yeah. So judge not, let Steve be judged. Just let people do what they want is what you're saying. Yeah. Okay. All right. So it wasn't about the prenup? It was a fight on the Bachelor or Bachelorette? TMZ says breakup was not due to a prenup. Yeah, it was about the Bachelor or Bachelorette party. You can't do it. I don't think anyone knows what the fight was about, but it was apparently not due to a prenup. My cool throne is podcasters because the Ohio State president has had to step down because he got in an inappropriate relationship with a Columbus-based podcaster. So watch out. Just feel your boys. There's a podcaster. Columbus-based podcaster? Columbus-based podcaster, yeah. What does that mean? It's a podcaster based in Columbus. Of which there are many? Of which there are many. I feel like that's got to be you got to be able to narrow that down pretty easily that's her on the right I think that's the podcaster right there oh yeah wife podcaster that's hilarious it's a great graphic yeah so don't mix it up with podcaster I think he went on her podcast and then the flames were just too hot I mean everyone says that a podcast interview is the greatest aphrodisiac. It happens to a lot of guys that sit on that couch. A lot of them don't want to ever leave. Just such a funny, like, an old man. Like, this guy is in his 60s. He's the Ohio State president. Do you have to come out and be like, I'm stepping down because I may have fucked a podcaster? Come on. Yeah. I mean, it is, again, this is why we're the Cool Throne Podcaster. It's great for our community. And when she says come on my podcast, she means it in a great way. Correct. Correct. Okay, Zach, finish this off. my hot seat this week back by the way PFT oh yeah there we go certified by back certified certified Philly Philly Maze banger my hot seat this week is going to be guys who try to tell other grown men how to dress you guys remember the DMV rapper Wale yeah so Wale posted a photo online he's kind of feeling good feeling good about himself you know trying to go about his day and this guy sparks controversy sparks a little bit of a debate online goes his quote is, I know I'm being judgmental, but the fact that this looks, this look is acceptable at four years old, man, still shocks me. And it's just like, you got to let people express themselves how you want to express them. There's a lot of guys replying to this photo in particular, just compton, full suits, three pieces, pinstripes. Yeah. And I just, I just, I didn't think that was cool. So I wanted to put all those guys in the hot seat. You should think before you reply to things. Yeah, what are we trying to do here? We're trying to just like stunt on Wale and be like, hey, Wale, I know you're probably richer and more successful than me, but here's a picture of me wearing a suit. So who's to say who the bigger man is? I agree. That's what they're trying to do? A lot of these are bad suits. I don't like it. That's a perfectly normal outfit that Wale is wearing, for the record. I love that outfit. I can see myself wearing that outfit. I actually think I might own most parts of that outfit. Yeah. If not all. Absolutely. Might put it for the one time. Yeah, don't let people live. Yeah, that's more of a story of let people live. I love that. They weren't letting Wale live a little bit online the other day. I don't like that. And then my cool thrown quick one, we've talked love on this show. We've also talked Chili's Triple Dippers on this show. Have you guys seen the couple who got into Gazea Chili's? Yeah. Oh. Oh, their Chili's. That's your Chili's, Zach. That's all of our Chili's and yes, they got, update though, Chili's will cover the, honeymoon. So we've got Chili's stepping in. Young love, they met each other at Chili's. Now they get engaged at Chili's, only to be sent off on a Chili's-themed honeymoon. Oh, I love these people. You could even say they got triple dip there. I love these people. That's incredible. This is the relationship that's going to make it. I think so as well. Yeah. If the foundation of your relationship is Chili's triple dipper or bottomless chips and salsa, you're going to make it. They're not thinking prenups or joint bachelor bachelor parties. Hell no. Not even a little bit. Hell no. You can hear my hot sticks away from my boneless nuggets. Yeah. Okay. Good job. Good hot seat, cool throne, everyone. Let's get to some more free agent talk with Nate Tice. 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Because the grind doesn't take breaks, neither does the Chevy Silverado. Check out the current offers, build your own Chevy Silverado at Chevy.com. And now here's Nate Tice. Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest. It is our friend Nate Tice, who's now going to be a recurring guest. Nate and I have known each other for many years now. He's a Badger, but we also, Nate joined us for dinner in Indianapolis for the Combine, so everyone got to meet Nate, and we figured what better guy to have on to talk free agency than the guy that knows a ton about football. He talks about it all the time on his podcast, Football 301. He works for Yahoo Sports. So, Nate, thank you for joining us, and I'm excited to dive in. Let's just, let's dive in. Let's do it. Give us the winner, the number one winner. The number one winner is guards and edges getting paid. Okay. And I think to maybe Tyler Linderbaum's bank account, I think those are the biggest winners of the day. But, yeah, you're always going to overspend in free agency, but I think some of these teams that had to spend money, they spent their money. Titans, Raiders, and I actually really like the Linderbaum and Raiders signing, even if it is a pretty penny because it makes sense for what they are and what they're trying to do with Mendoza and Clint Kubiak and all that good stuff. So that's one that was my first kind of winner, apparently, because just off his bank account. There's some more sneakier signings as well. They're kind of like quasi-winners, I would say, but that's the one that kind of really grabbed my attention more than anything else. A really good center like Linderbaum going to Vegas, where they're going to have a rookie quarterback. What does that mean for Mendoza, like for his progression? And I know they're saying right now they don't plan on him starting at the beginning of the year. They want to have him kind of learn the ropes in the NFL and take his time before he actually gets a starting job. I don't necessarily believe that that's going to happen because sometimes it's just they see a guy and they're like, well, you should just be starting. Let's get you out there. But signing a center like this, what does that do for a rookie quarterback and their transition to the NFL? It does a lot. It's one of my favorite kind of things is to get a vet center with a young quarterback because that's the biggest transition I think. Not only we talk about quarterbacks, but offensive line and running backs is pass protection. getting into the next level. And NFL defenses are super complicated right now, more than ever. What we saw Mike McDonald do, that is kind of the epitome of what the Seahawks and what they were doing in the Super Bowl, but that's what a lot of defenses are doing right now. They're very smart. The blitz packages are very expansive. So it's kind of that puts the onus on the center to kind of sort things out. Quarterbacks get the trump card. They get the leeway. They earn that right to then do what we always think of the Sheriff, the Tom Brady, the Peyton Manning pointing, the Drew Brees, all that. That takes time. And there's quarterbacks in the league that do do it. Like Josh Allen is one of those guys now that does that. But he took time to earn that right. And so when you have a center that's seen those looks, that knows how to go into a game plan, knows how to communicate, not only just calms the quarterback down, it calms the entire offensive line and offense down, but it takes so much off the quarterback's plate. because now he, I mean, these are, Mendoza's very smart guy, it seems like, obviously, with his LinkedIn page, all that stuff. But those are long play calls. That's a lot on third down that's changing week to week that now it's like, okay, now I don't have to worry about who the mic is. Are we sliding this way? Are we sliding that way? Now I can just execute the pass. Yeah. And then I'll earn more of the pre-snap operation as time goes on. So it just takes a load off. And I love that. I mean, Bears fans have gone through it for years. and last year was the first time we kind of felt calm because they had a vet center in there. And even Dolman's, I would say, is more above average than anything. So I think Linderbaum can really just bring that calm presence to a young quarterback. Okay, outside of Linderbaum, and I think that there's definitely certain teams that the Raiders are one of them, the Titans, the Jets, where it feels like they all did a good job of they just need to get competent football players on the roster. Is there a specific signing of those three teams that you're like, oh, that was actually a really good signing. This is getting them to a place where, hey, they're going to actually play some football this year. Yeah, John Franklin Myers going to the Titans. Him and Jeffrey Simmons, that's some Bash Brothers potential right there. I tweeted this, but there's eight defensive tackles last year that a certain amount of pressure rate, like the league average pressure rate is about 10% for edges. I think it's like 9% for defensive tackles. There's only two defensive tackles that are above 10% there, and then also had a stuff rate, which means tackles for no gain or TFLs of 5% or more. And it's Jeffrey Simmons and John Franklin Myers. So I could see why the Titans, they needed so many bodies. They needed guys across their entire defense. And also what it does, it opens up opportunities for their first pick. Now they don't need this position. They also traded for Johnson, Jermaine Johnson from the Jets. So they don't need an edge. It would be nice to have another guy. They don't need another defensive lineman. They don't need a corner like Elante Taylor or something like that because now they can just go, okay, we can address receiver. We can address offensive line. We can address other positions. It kind of opens that up. So that was the one I would say of those teams that really splashed and really threw a lot of money at that. I really like that signing where it's like they paid him a pretty penny, but he's going to earn it because he's such a good player and has familiarity with Robert Sala. Having said that, they also signed Wondell Robinson to $70 million a year, and I did not like that deal at all. Okay. So there's the good and the bad of all this. Yeah, I was going to ask you, is there one deal that you thought big-time overpay or a reach, maybe a panic move that a team had to do? Well, Robinson was a little rich for me because that was just a, they're doing the whole, he knows Brian D'Abel's system. I just think he has a very replaceable skill set, a slot-only type of, he has to be a target eater, but he's not like super dynamic as a yak guy. I don't think he's a bad player or anything. I just don't think it's the guy that you're like, oh, we have to get this guy, because I think it's a very fungible skill set. I'd rather have them gone for Romeo Dobbs, who's still out there, as we're recording this right now, from the Packers. But that was one, so the same team kind of just like, oh, that's a little too rich for me for what I think is just because of coach familiarity. And it's also Dable, who got fired and won three games. Yeah, it's not exactly where we're picking the brain of somebody that just came off a Super Bowl a couple years ago or something like that story. It fits his winning system. Brian Dabble's leadoff. I've got to do it. Now, what about Rashawn Gary? What happened with that? Because to an outside eye, and maybe I just don't know ball, maybe I'm not in the thick of things like you who speaks to people in league circles know, but it seemed like he was just going to get cut because he said, I'm going to get released. And then the Cowboys were like, not so fast. What if I gave you a fourth-round pick? Would that make things any better? What happened with that? I think it was just that, oh, I'm getting cut. And then what happens usually, I mean, we saw that too with the Raiders. They traded for Teron Johnson. And it was a sixth, seventh round swap from the Bills. Oh, I'm getting released. And sometimes that's where that public messaging actually teams go, oh, he's getting released. And then they go, rather than him hit the waiver wire, okay, we'll trade for him. Rather than it become an open market, we kind of pledge the market and we just jump the line. So obviously a fourth to me means somebody offered probably a sixth or fifth. And they're like, and Jerry sees that first rounder next to his name and just goes, yeah, fourth rounder, because he's addicted to guys that were formally drafted in the first round. So I think that's what happened is just that they try to jump the line. We saw that with the David Montgomery trade last week, where originally he was reported as a fifth. And then actually went for a fourth and an offensive lineman and some other, I think a seventh rounder or something. It's because once it gets announced, it's still not official. So it's like that's the thing. and I'm not a team that has to deal with the fallback of going like, well, actually we're doing this instead. So that's what I think happened is that Jerry said, screw that, I'm giving him a fourth instead. So I think that's just what the trickle down after he announced that whole little thing. So I'm sure he got – did he say he got hacked? Yeah, he said he got hacked. I believe him. Yeah, I believe him. He definitely got hacked. That wasn't – yeah. Definitely. Totally. A guy wouldn't put that after. But, I mean, that would make a lot more sense if other teams were offering a fifth and a sixth, and then Jerry was just like, okay, I'll be the crazy asshole that goes over the top. I'll give you my fourth and let's get it done. Walk away. We don't have to negotiate that much longer. What about a team that kind of sat on their hands a little bit? Is there a team that you thought would be more active on day one? I wouldn't say I thought they would be more active, but it's really interesting what's going on with the Eagles because they're kind of cash. They're not broke, but they're cash strapped because of just their contracts right now. And it's just they're not doing anything. They're really just sitting on their hands. And that's just – they're at a huge crossroads as a franchise. Just, I mean, losing offensive line coach, Jeff Stout when he retired. Lane Johnson's coming back. But their whole offensive line seems like they're contemplating retirement. Now you've got the A.J. Brown trade hanging up over their head. They're losing a great safety in Reed Blakenship. I really like him. I actually like that signing by the Texans. Fits their defense perfectly. But the loss to N'Kobe Dean, who's been banged up. That's another Raiders signing. But he's been banged up. So I understood that. That's why they drafted Jahawk, Campbell, et cetera, et cetera. But I do think that this team is – they're shopping Jalen Carter, and that's very real. There's a lot of smoke there. But also if I were another team and Howie called me and said, hey, Jalen Carter is on the market, I'd be like, what do you know? Yeah, right. That's a big buyer. That's a fair question to ask. Yeah, that's a big buyer beware. But the Eagles are just at a crossroads as a team right now. And this is somewhat by design. This is Howie kind of does it. He does Howie Roseman. He does those pushes, and then they kind of reset. And we're at that kind of reset stage. But they're inactive because they have to be because they're strapped right now. And then they're also just got the A.J. Brown thing hanging over their head. Some of them are by choice by them. But I do think that they're interesting to me because it's just that this is a weird – I mean, the Cowboys are pushing this year. So, like, how much of a reset is this for the Eagles? Like, they have no tight ends on the roster right now. So it's just a very weird roster at this point in time. Yeah. Another one that was kind of weird to me was I don't really understand the Steelers strategy where adding Michael Pittman, another, like, bigger guy, you know, possession receiver, back shoulder. Unless the strategy is literally we're going to build every receiver for Aaron Rodgers to be able to throw back shoulder passes along the sidelines and over the middle, like, and he won't throw any interceptions. What are the Steelers doing? I wish I could tell you. Trying to sell season tickets, that's kind of been my – because hiring Mike McCarthy and just automatically going like, yeah, we're the only Aaron Rodgers team essentially. We'd love to have him back. And Rodgers last year, the thing that was, I would say, frustrating when watching them is that the offense wasn't awful last year. The run game was pretty good. The young offensive line is decent in Pittsburgh. Like Zach Frazier, the center, is very good, and they've got some other talent up there, McCormick and Fontenot. But they had no receiver, too, which you felt. But that's also, like, why I pay Aaron Rodgers. Right. It's because you're supposed to make this all better. And I thought so many times it was frustrating. Like, he pushed the ball, like, didn't push the ball at all. Like, he was throwing short of the sticks at one of the highest rates on record. I think it was, like, him in the one year Alex Smith was with the Commanders. Like, that's, like, way short of the first down market. He was checking everything down, throwing underneath or throwing go balls. And that's not going to lead to a lot of sustained success. So if you're going to have a quarterback do that, you need guys that can break tackles. Pittman I like, but he's not a tackle breaker. Like you said, he's a back shoulder guy. So I understand a trade. They need a receiver too. And I understand why they maybe went for a guy that was on the market like Pittman because of the Pierce stuff with the Colts and everything. But I thought they need a little more juice because they need guys that can take stuff that's a two-yard gain and take it 20. The back shoulder living, it's like just kind of a hat on a hat. Yeah. with this team. Yeah, I saw someone tweet it perfectly. They're like, if Aaron Rodgers comes back, the Steelers have basically built the perfect turkey Thanksgiving Day pick-up game offense. Yeah. No one gets separation, but that's okay. We'll just throw a back shoulder and just kind of muck it down the field. Yeah, I don't really understand that one, but it is weird. Do you think Alex Pierce? I think he's awesome. People were like, oh, that's a lot of money. I think he, you tell me if I'm wrong, but like I always saw him as a guy who played a role for the Colts because there was a Michael Pittman there where now he'll do more for the Colts than just be the go deep and, you know, go ball guy. Yeah, and he's always been the go ball guy. It's now why he had so much success last year is because he added to his game. Right. Like his routes are getting a little cleaner. He's never going to be a high-end route runner because of just some of his physical limitations. He's a little stiff-hipped. But he's added to his game. He comes down with the ball, and explosive plays are the name of the game. And that's why it's not only just his catches. It's his gravity. That's why you pay a guy like that is because every snap, the defense has to honor him. The defense has to make sure they have somebody over the top. that safeties can't play low because at any time the safeties have to worry about him running 40 yards down the field. So that's like why he is like speed's always going to be at a premium. But when you see like last year guys like Tutu Atwell getting like $11 million, like Alec Pierce is twice the player of that. So got twice the money. I do think that that's why it's rich, but that's the free agency market. And he's kind of earned that right, but he's added to his game. I think ideally he's a high end too for you. But what the Colts are trying to do is that we have Warren, we have Downs, who do their best work underneath and in the intermediate areas. And if you had another guy, like say Pierce wasn't there and it's just Pittman, that's going to make a very tight offense. Like everything's just going to be tight. But now you have Pierce out there, defenses will run softer coverages because they have to have a safety over the top. It's the Randy Moss effect. I know I'm not comparing Alex Pierce to Randy Moss. Right. But that's what speedsters do. We have to run cover two, otherwise he's going to burn us. Well, what cover two does then, we can run on it. And they have Jonathan Taylor. So the trickle down about Pierce is worth the money that they paid him. Because even if he's only a 1,000-yard receiver on 50 catches, it doesn't matter because what he does for everybody else is worth the money. Yeah. What do you think about the quarterback market, about Malik Willis to the Dolphins, Tua to the Falcons, and then the big one that's still out there, Kyler Murray? We don't know where he's going to go. But it's going to be very interesting wherever he ends up. But what do you think about what's happened so far with those two? Malik kind of made me feel a little bit better that I read the signs right the former Packers coach and the former Packers GM go there and they signed the former Packer and I was like okay good like the Cardinals were sniffing around and I was like why are you sniffing around like you guys should be the tank commanders this season I should be watching the sneaky signs for the Cardinals but they should be watching a lot of Texas film the Jets in Arizona should be watching a lot of Texas film this year I think the Cardinals truly love Jacoby Brissett. I think they're confident in Brissett as their quarterback. Gardner mentioned it. He's going to lead him to success. No, but with Malik Willis, that's exactly what I figured. It's kind of the Darnold contract. We've got Seattle maybe a tick lower. It's really a two-year deal. They're guaranteed through two years. It's a tryout. I would rather they kind of embrace the tank, maybe trade for Davis Mills or something, because Bobby Sloak is the coach there, the OC there from the Texans. But I get this kind of dart throw. Hey, if we get more out of it, he's a very exciting player, and he's got a lot of tools. He's supposed to be a great dude as well. Maybe you get something out of it. But I think it's an expensive experiment where they might just get caught in the middle because he'd be confident enough. But I think that's a fair contract. That's kind of like the lower middle class contract, which was nonexistent a few years ago. It's kind of coming back for quarterbacks. Because before it was just like, pay two of 48. Okay, who's next paid? Okay, pay him 49. Mike, there's just one more than the last guy. But the rest of the guys, like I'm more interested. Well, Kyler seems like starter line with him in Minnesota, which I actually think is a better stylistic fit than people think because KOC likes guys that can launch it. That's what Kyler does best, and he can do some creation, throwing on the move. Geno Smith is interesting. No, he's out there. Kirk Cousins is interesting. He's out there. Like those guys, I'm curious for their spots. If we assume the Rodgers to the Steelers, Kyler maybe to the Vikings, I'm curious where those other guys kind of end up. Because now Tua going to the Falcons, I actually thought Stepanski, Cousins, maybe they would kind of rekindle that relationship. But obviously it seems like that's done. But Tua going there, I think that's more of a, hey, we don't want to change it from a lefty quarterback to a righty quarterback. Also, if I could blend Penix and Tua together, that's a hell of a quarterback. Yeah, I like Boulin. It's a great quarterback. Yeah, I know, right? But it's kind of funny because their center's lefty. Yeah. Bajon Robinson's lefty. Drake London's lefty. Yeah. They have a lot of lefties on that team. Yeah. A bunch of mutants down there. A bunch of Ned Flanders. Yeah. Yeah, I know. I know. The leftorium down there. That, to me, was interesting because I feel like that is, and we said this about two in Miami, like, if you get a good roster around him, he can be a good quarterback. Now they've got a good dynamic offensive roster in Atlanta, and they also have the benefit of playing half their games indoors. So it does feel like the perfect – if two is ever going to be good, this is the place to do it. Yeah, and this offense is going to ask him to throw the routes that he's kind of comfortable throwing, maybe not to the extent of what McDaniel was doing to the Dolphins because that was kind of a circus team. They were their own thing. But as far as just some of the play action stuff, he's comfortable doing it, and that's what Stefanski does. I mean, Bajon Robinson's the engine of that team, and Stefanski's the same guy that rode Nick Chubb. So that's not going to change. But I do think that some of the play-action stuff does fit Tua, maybe better than Pennix, but because Pennix is just not comfortable turning his back to the defense, which we kind of saw last year. Some of those play-action stuff, that's what happens when you're under center in the pistol. Tua's a little bit more comfortable with that. But also I think this is a quiet tank a little bit for them. I think this is a regroup year. Obviously, that's why you go for a Tua. Just kind of like, yeah, we don't care about feelings. Like, we're just – whatever. Just as long as we can assess everybody else. I'm more interested even just quarterback-wise, like, the backups, the Tanner McKees of the world, Tyson Bajins of the world. Yep. Like, if they have a market. Because I think McKee would be such an interesting name for teams, or Bajin even, too. So that's why I'm still keeping my eye on those guys. I think once the Kyler thing happens, then we're going to see the trickle down with everybody else signing and whatnot. I hate to make declarative statements during free agency, but the Rams are the best team in the NFC now, I think. I know that's crazy. They got two guys, but they literally needed, like, the weakness of their team last year was they had bad cornerbacks and they could never, they had to play zone all the time and got shredded in big moments, and then they go and trade for McDuffie and then sign Jalen Watson. I'm like, well, that's a wrap. They're the best team in the NFC. Is that crazy? No, while keeping their top 15 pick. Right. Yeah, no, I'm right there with you. It was a credit to what Chris Shula was doing, the defense coordinator, that he was getting the most out of Emmanuel Forbes. And I think Kobe Durant's actually a solid player. But, I mean, McDuffie and Watson are big upgrades. McDuffie is excellent. I consider him kind of like either low-end Tier 1 or high-end Tier 2 corner that can play in the slot. He's super instinctive. He's very smart. He knows he's aggressive. Like, also the defense that he ran in Kansas City translates great to what Shula does. So, like, what Spags does in KC to what Shula does in L.A. Like, as far as, like, they do a lot of what they call palms, but they trap guys. And it really takes advantage of the corner's eyes if they're very aggressive. and the fact that he can play in the slot. They have so many guys that can play in the slot, which is that's why they play so much dime, six DBs, is because they have so many guys that are valid on the inside. So he's another weapon they can throw at offenses. I love that already. I understood why they paid him, why they trade for him. I thought that was a fair trade. But, like, I just love that signing or trade. But then the Watson signing was one of those because I thought he was a nice kind of upper-middle-class free agent. Like, he's a really good two. The Chiefs fell off when he wasn't on the field. And he just follows them to the Rams. And so everything I said about McDuffie being a scheme fit, all that stuff, it's perfect for that, too. So I'm right there with you. And now they can do whatever they want with that first pick, and they're really interesting. They go tight end, receiver, O-line, add another edge, D-attack. They could do so much with that first pick. So, yeah, they're my favorites in the NFC as well right now. Real quick, Nate, I wanted to ask you about something because we've never had you on the show before, and I was going back, I was looking at your college stats from your time at Wisconsin. Is this the best stat line ever? Your college stat, is this true? You have one attempt rushing for 17 yards and a touchdown? Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah, celebrated with 17 drinks afterwards. Don't remember much. No, that was the stat line. I'm the human victory cigar at Wisconsin. that I would come in when it was a blowout, and then they ran what they call Lonesome, which is the quarterback keeper. And it was a play that isn't supposed to have a lonesome on it because it was designed to get me smoked by an edge rusher or something coming off the edge. And we're playing Indiana. Not this iteration of Indiana. Yeah, old Indiana. 2010 Indiana. Scoring 83 points on them, Indiana. So, yeah, that's why I got dropped in there. and then the DN was just lazy, and I just was able to scoop by him for a touchdown. But I was supposed to get decleated or clotheslined or tombstoned or whatever wrestling move you want to say. That was the plan. That's awesome. Did you have a touchdown celebration ready? I did the J.J. Watt shrug. Okay, nice. When we were teammates, but I don't think anyone realized what that was trying to do. I think everyone – I got whiplash, too, because my teammate Ryan Groy headbutted me so hard after a score, so I might have been a little bit constant. It's a great stat line. They're like a perfect college stat line. Good for you. Yeah. No passes. Just a run, baby. No completions. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. You have more touchdowns. You make all the shots you don't take. Yeah, you have more touchdowns than completions. That's pretty impressive. Yeah. Thank you. I appreciate it. Yeah, no, dual threat weapon. That's how everyone associated me with that 5-2-40 I was running. All right, so the reverse of the Rams, Kenneth Walker going to the Chiefs. Not reverse, but, you know, the two Chiefs players going to the Rams. I love this for the Chiefs. Is that crazy? I know you're not supposed to pay running backs, especially in free agency, but it's like the Chiefs have just not had any explosive dudes. Obviously, Rasheed Rice is. But it feels like the Chiefs have not had pop to their offense for a while now, and now you've got a guy who can actually run the ball. Yeah, and they've needed this for like three years now. And Pacheco did a fine job. but Pacheco wasn't this. And whether it was ETN, Travis ETN, or Kenneth Walker, I was like, they were in the market for both of those. And I was like, for a lot of teams, I wouldn't maybe like this. But for the Chiefs, it's like, yes, this is exactly what they need. Like Walker, you know, some of his visions can be iffy, but he's so explosive. We saw it in the playoff run. He can just create something out of nothing. And what the Chiefs have run into, their offensive line is going to be good next year. And I think it's kind of getting underrated how good the Chiefs' offensive line is going to be. But they've been one of the most efficient run games, meaning so they've been getting four yards, five yards. But Patrick Mahomes had more explosive scrambles last year, which is a gain of 10 or more yards or 12 or more yards, than the running backs had gains of 12 or more yards last year. That's nuts. And Patrick Mahomes lost the last, what, month and a half of the season? Yeah. Yeah, and this is two years running that they've done this, where they've had like a top 10 efficient run game. So it's like they get a lot of singles. It's like an each-year-old run game. and they just get no pop. And now they get a guy that can hit home runs. And so Walker can be limited in protection, some detailed stuff, but that's fine with the Chiefs because they don't need that. Other offenses maybe need a guy that has a little bit different kind of play style. So this is awesome. The Chiefs have gotten smaller and slower. They're skilled guys over the last five years. And now they needed juice and they need size at tight end and they need a little bit more at receiver too. They brought back Taequann Thornton, which I actually like because I liked his role with Mahomes, but I love this. Screens, big plays. We can find the guy that can get four or five-yard plots. Now that you get a guy that can take one to the house, and I think he's going to earn that contract. He gets banged up, too. He's always going to need a number two with him. That's why Charbonnet always got touches before he got hurt. But I love this for the Chiefs. I really did. Also, they signed a defensive tackle I really like, Kyrus Tonga, and I like that signing, too. So, yeah, the Chiefs actually had a solid day as far as not just Walker, but Tonga and Thornton, too, is kind of the middle class signings as well. Yeah. They just got Dawson Knox, too. I think that just happened. Oh. Just as we're taping. Which is nice because now we don't have to watch. Oh, sorry. Nope, that's the Bills. Bills agreed to a new contract. That would make sense. I got fooled by an Adam Schefter notification that when I hit show more, showed me the official. Now I'm bummed out because I'm sick of watching Dawson Knox and Dalton Kinnett. Dalton Kidd. Dalton Kidd. I got you. And getting confused on which one of the DKs just caught a pass for third and 11. So now that we get to do another year of that. It's 88-86, too. That doesn't help. No, it's my Rams tight end theory. There was multiple times this year where I just bet all the white tight ends for the Rams to score because I was so sick of a white tight end scoring for the Rams looking up and being like, oh, I don't have them, so I would just spray the board and just take all four. People celebrated that Blakenship is no longer with the Eagles because now we don't have the – yeah, I have to worry about Cooper DeGene and Blankenship wearing 32 and 33. Even other players confuse them. Yeah. You see that clip, right, where someone went up to read? He's like, no, I'm not Coop. That's the other guy. I do have another question that vibes-wise. Mike Evans going to the Niners. I don't think that's like – I love Mike Evans. I think he's an awesome – he's a Hall of Fame receiver. He's an awesome receiver, incredible career. He'll be good for the Niners. But to me, it was more, damn, does he hate Todd Bowles. Is that fair? Right. Like, that's very bizarre to me. Mike Evans, who's played for the Bucs for that long, one jersey guy, like, the money seemed the same, and he's like, no, I don't want to do this anymore. It was the fact that he was like, oh, I want to play with, I think, a high-end quarterback or a winning quarterback, and I want to play with the team that wins, the team that just won all these divisions and everything. Yeah, there was something off there. The fact that he was like, no, I'm not going to take any hometown discount. I'm out. I'm going all the way across. But the fact that he stated reasons as opposed to just like, hey, I want to find a new spot. Right. And the guy that is now battling, he's been so durable, but he battled injuries last year going to the place that has the electrical substation that everybody's worried about. But we can't blame that, right? Yeah. No. But I do think that there's – the fact that he said it in that way, he tried to be professional but saying the statements that he did, like he could have just said nothing. So the fact that he said that is a message. A guy that's been kind of a warrior for this franchise, good and bad. I mean, they've went through some bad years in 2010s. So, like, it's indicative of something. And I think that's – the Bucs are an odd team. Yeah. Is he going to be good for the Niners, you think? I think my author, well, he's with Shanahan. That's why I'm like, yeah. But he's not going to be to the extent of what he was, obviously, in his prime. He was 33. Yeah. And come off an injury. But in that offense, yeah, like Shanahan will find a way to use him great. Whether it's, I mean, yeah. I think he's just going to be very effective. Maybe that what he was two years ago where he just broke 1,000, something like that, and then he's got a good amount of touchdowns. That's the thing. Kyle Shanahan is really good in the red zone, and Mike Evans is really good in the red zone. So that's where you'll feel him. Kind of how Devontae Adams was this year, almost like a designated hitter. Right. You know, where it's like certain games he showed up, but also in the red zone, boom, the ball's going his way. So with other teams, I wouldn't like this, but with Kyle Shanahan, he's always going to get the most out of his guys, and now he's got just a supremely talented guy, even if the guy's waning. It's kind of the – I'm kind of rambling here, but I learned this from a basketball guy. He's with the Nuggets. But he was saying it's the Vince Carter theory, where a guy that starts as an excellent athlete, they actually age into good role players if they care about the game enough. And Evans seems like he does. So same kind of thing where he ages into a good role player as opposed to, you know, a star. But I liked it. Yeah, I thought that was an interesting one too. I'm looking at your big board that you have here. You have – you've got Reuben Bain still at number four. Is that a common take amongst the draft picks that are putting together their big boards and their mocks? Are you an outlier that you've kept him up there even though he's got the gummy bear arms? I don't know. I'm all about length. I am a guy that I like tools and traits and I usually defer to tools and traits. That's what the NFL is all about. Also, I care about a guy that defends the run. That's why I think I have Bain just stacked up a little bit higher than David Bailey. David Bailey is going to be a force as a pass rusher. I just have questions about how he defends the run. If you're taking a guy in the top 10, I think Bain has a capped ceiling, but I do like him. I think he's going to end up just being a good pro. It's weird, almost a safer bet. I've compared him to Brandon Graham. That's where I think he's very similar stylistically and build-wise. But again, Brandon Graham I think was only a one-time all-pro. It wasn't this guy that was going there every single year, but just a good pro. So I think that's why I've just kind of deferred to Bain is because he's tenacious. He can be an effective pass rusher. I think he's going to end up being like a 6-8 sack guy. But the fact that he's going to be a good run defender as well that can kick inside, that's just to me just there's a lot of good there, even if there's not a lot of overwhelming or a lot of great with his arms or some of the twitchiness stuff and everything that's associated with that. But this is what this draft class is, though. I think I even said that in my write-up, is that he kind of epitomizes this class. A player I really like, but maybe I don't love, and he has a blemish that kind of has you squinting just a little bit. But that's just entire draft classes like this. Yeah. Is there another quarterback that you have that could be a first-round guy? Because we've heard, like, Ty Simpson has been – like, people have been talking about Ty Simpson a lot. I saw that you had Nussmeyer at 38. Is there another guy that you think could slide in that first round? Those are the two, if there were going to be one, is Simpson and Nussmeyer. I've been squinting and trying to find others. But I think that they only can get so high. You know, Taylor Green had a great, great, great, great combine. And I was already interested in him as a day three guy. You know, he reminds me a lot of Randall Cunningham. It's just that he has some accuracy stuff underneath, but he has some games. Like the Texas A&M game is really positive for you as far as processing, as far as decision making, on top of all the tools that you can bring as a runner and a thrower. But he's like, but again, that's day three. I can only get so high with a true project like that or a quasi project. But I think it's Nussmeyer and Simpson are the only ones that can kind of maybe get to that first round. You never know. But I will say that that's just how I like. I think even guys that we know of, you know, Carson Beck, that's a clear day three guy to me. I'm getting more interested in guys from like North Dakota State or Jack Strand from Minnesota Moorhead. Like I'm like trying to Jalen Daniels from Kansas. I'm trying to find more interesting day three guys than maybe overreaching for these other guys that to me are clear, like I say, day three guys as opposed to round three or round two that can maybe sneak up. And to me, that's only Nussmeier and Simpson at this point in time. I got a question about the Bears. I love the Kobe Bryant signing. Devin Bush as well. Is this a lot of Dennis Allen getting the guys that he needs to run his defense? and what did you think about their first day? Because they don't have a ton of cash left, so it's probably going to be about this and then trying to fill a lot more holes in the draft. Yeah, I mean, they needed safety with both of the safeties coming free. And Bryant fits their defense perfectly because Mike McDonald and what they did in Seattle, it's kind of hard. Whatever team wins, everyone's like, oh, this is the new trend. Everybody's going to copy this. It's kind of hard to copy Mike McDonald, who's just an incredible coach and runs everything. I always call it a kaleidoscope scheme that he just runs everything and he just coaches it really well that week. But why that's a good thing with Bryant is that as a safety, safeties have to be the smartest guys now. We used to think of Mike linebackers still have to be it, but a lot of that operation pre-snap has shifted back to safeties. We see more safeties with the green dot that get the play calls now because of that, because they're on the back end. Everything's top down now with all this quarters coverages. So I'm bringing this all up because Dennis Allen is a very creative defensive coordinator. You see it a lot on passing downs, like third down, but also, you know, down to down, he can kind of do some funk. You know, he's got some stuff to his defensive calls. Why you need to operate that, to execute that, you need smart safeties. And that's what Brian is. And a twitchy safety. He's got range as well. So if you're having a guy on the line of scrimmage that has to run all the way back, you need a guy with some speed, and he has that as a converted corner. I would say he's a willing tackler as opposed to maybe a very sound one. Some Seahawks fans got really mad that I said he was a sound tackler. It's okay, willing tackler. I'm so sorry. But I do think that I love that signing. I really did. I thought the price was fair. I think he was the best safety on the market, especially when Cam Crow was gone. I just love that fit. I'm curious how they address the draft. I really think they need defensive beef up front to help Allen needs he likes size and he likes guys This type of defense needs guys along the spine So you need defensive tackles need linebackers that can blitz and then you need safeties that can blitz and do everything. Everything has to come along the spine. And so now you see where they sign, linebacker and safety, and they've got to bet. They take defensive tackle in the draft or something in defensive tackle. And they signed defensive tackle as well, right? Yeah, they went literally defensive tackle, linebacker, safety is their three signings on defense. That's what they have to address, and that's what this defensive system needs, is guys along the spine. Okay. What do you think about Adaphe Owe to the commanders? It seems like a huge contract. Whenever I see $100 million in the commanders in 68, I think about Albert Hainsworth. It's a Pavlov reaction or whatever. I'm like, okay, it can't be as bad as that at least. But he seems like a guy that second half of the season last year, was very productive, had some great years or some solid years on the Ravens as well leading up to that half season with the Chargers. Is he more of what we've seen before, or is this like a red flag almost because it's like contract year, and then he just jumped off the page at you? Well, I wish I could have a straight answer because when I watched him with the Chargers, he was kind of a different player. And even Next 10 Stats had a great stat on it. He had the six highest pressure rate once he joined the Chargers in week six. in the entire NFL. And, you know, that's up with guys with Myles Garrett and all that. I will say, though, that's with Jesse Minter coaching him. And that's what Jesse Minter dialing up plays that led to some unblocked pressures, led to some creative looks for him where he took advantage of him. He did play like a guy in this contract here. And I mean that as a positive. I also mean that as a – so it's what you want to argue for. It's a pretty – again, it's a pretty penny. That's a lot of money to throw at him. But he's got traits. He tries hard, which is also when you want to pay a guy, you want to make sure that they have the – you don't want him to be like Hainsworth. Yeah. Pay him, and all of a sudden he's laying down literally on a snap. But I do think that it's like you are paying a premium because of just like he has a market for a reason, because he's young. He has some production to point to. The 10-sec year was a little fake. I think what he did with the Chargers is the most real. But is it Jesse Minter in that defense, or is it, hey, now the stock's going up and something clicked? Probably somewhere in between. but they needed to do that. Again, this is now, hopefully with Dorrance Armstrong coming back, because I did think he was looking really good last year. He's a great player, yeah. Yeah. Now, again, in the draft, you open up paths. Now you can kind of, oh, we don't have to draft an edge, because that's what everyone's been mocking, right, to the commanders. It's like David Bailey or Bain or Keldrick Falk or somebody that's there. Now you can kind of open up the paths for the draft. So I do like that, even if it is a lot of money. I will say, why did they let go of Tower Biotis? More than anything with the commanders, that is the one thing I'm not understanding. Even if he's not an amazing center, is that what's their plan now? I don't know. Now they just kind of created a new gap for themselves, and then Biotis got a race. Yeah, the center market is crazy, right? Crazy. Yeah, so the commanders, everything. The OA one I'm fine with, because if you're going to bet on a guy, at least there's more to tap into here. He's not maxed out. That's how I think of OA. But why did they move on from Biash? That's where it just seems like, yeah, I don't know, one step backwards, one step forward kind of thing for the commanders. They had a weird couple days. I also feel better about O. Wade because knowing that he was drafted by the Ravens, they're a very good team when it comes to drafting players. So I put some stock in that. I'm like, okay, well, then he's a good guy. He's got a good motor. He cares about the game. He's smart. The Ravens already did that homework for me. But, yeah, $68 million, that's a lot of money. I had one more question about the draft for you. So I know that you have Love ranked pretty high, right? Did you have him number three overall on the big board? Okay, so how does he compare to running backs that we've seen in the last few years, like Bajon Robinson, Gibbs, and Gentry coming out? How does he stack up with those coming out? I have him over Gibbs. He's bigger than Gibbs. I really like Bajon coming out, so I probably have Bajon slightly higher. But he's up there from guys I've watched. I've been struggling to find a real good comparison for him. I've seen the Reggie Bush one, but Reggie was a little bit more fluid, but I get the skill set. And I don't want to be a total hipster and try and think of some 80s and 70s guys. There's a little, if you remember the guy David Johnson for the Cardinals, there's a little running style like that. He's a better version of that, maybe not as big. So there's one guy he runs like, but I don't, obviously on this show, I'll just give a good clip. He runs like O.J. Simpson. Okay. So as far as we're running stuff, we're talking about the football player. The football player. The football player O.J. Simpson on the field. Yes. Yes, on the field only. And he can catch the ball better than that. But anyways. This is the show you can say that. You can just say that. I know. Yeah. My brain's hit a wall about three times before that thought got out. Yeah. No, he's got a lot of like. Can't wait to see that. Can't wait to see that clip. No, you're good. You're good. No, but Jeremiah Love, though, it's like, and I think you see that's why running backs are getting paid and running backs are getting drafted, is because if you're going to give a guy 20, 25 touches, like, they better be valid. And if defenses are daring us to run the ball, let's have a guy that, like Kenneth Walker just got paid $15 million. Let's have a guy that can take a five-yard gain, 50. And Jeremiah Love can do that. And the other thing, this is why maybe I had Gives a half-step, or half-tier below these other guys, is he was terrible in pass protection when he entered the NFL. Now he's pretty good at it. Is that Love can stay on the field every down. So it's the girly thing. It's the Zeke thing. Is that they don't have to come off the field, you know, touches and everything. But scheme-wise and play call-wise and play design-wise, there's no limitations. So I think that's where I really – that's why I think I have him so high. Not think. That's why I have him so high is because of that. It's because he has that every down skill set and he can take the ball to the house. And that to me is just like that's valuable. I don't know what his draft range is, especially after like the Chiefs paid for a guy. I think it's really more interesting what his range will actually end up being. But he's a guy that I'm very comfortable taking to the top ten, especially in this draft class that has so many blemishes. Yeah, it's like his blemish is that he's running back. That's it. Yeah. Yeah, it's weird though. Yesterday didn't really go his way in terms of some of the landing spots. Could be interesting where he falls to now because, like, obviously the Raiders are not going to take him. The Jets, you know, are keeping Brees Hall. The Cardinals, Tyler Algier, you know. There's a lot of teams like Kenneth Walker to the Chiefs, Etienne to the Saints. It's weird. I don't really know where he's going to end up going now. Yeah, and I see the Titans rumors at four, but I'm like, Tennessee, you guys got so much. You need to be addressing, but who knows? That's what I'm seeing. But Cincinnati's got changed for round. Devon H. Adams with the Dolphins. Javante Williams just got re-signed by the Cowboys. You're just going one by one. The Rams, maybe they want girly part two, but they've kind of earned Williams. But that's the thing. That could be interesting. Like the Raiders just went gentty. You know, the Bucs, but they just signed Kenneth Gainwell. And who knows what's going on with Bucky Irving. Like they're a landing spot potentially. You never know what the Bucs are going to do. Like you said, the Jets, the Lions, the Vikings maybe. but the Vikings have a bunch of holes. So it's like his range is very interesting, and it's like, is someone going to trade up for him? You know, like somebody in the 20s gets giddy and moves up for him? I'm very interested where he ends up. But having said that, I like him a little better than Gentry because I thought Gentry took so much contact that I was a little hesitant about how his career ends up, but I really liked him. Obviously, I thought he was a guy that was, again, valid to go in the lottery, but I just think Love's got just a little bit more to him even than that. So just very curious where his range goes. Yeah. After you get away from Mendoza, to me at least, it feels like the two guys that are slotted like in the top ten that are the most complete players would be Love and then Caleb Downs, two guys that are like the big downside to these guys is the position that they play. Should we spend a top ten pick on a safety even though he's clearly a top ten talent? Yeah, I think so. In this class, yes. In other classes that have more loaded talent, maybe not. But in this class, yes, because I'm much rather happy, especially with downs, and we're just talking about Kobe Bryant going to the Bears. If he's in the hands of the right defensive coordinator, he can do what a center does on offense, like just calm everyone else down, kind of get everyone lined up. He's kind of his own thing, but there's more safeties playing like this. He has a lot of Buda Baker to his game and his usage, where they kind of do this rover where it's hard to describe, but it's in between the linebackers and the safeties, essentially. And then he kind of – it's old school. They used to call it a monster back, which is sign, see ball, get ball. But they – because why they do that is you're letting him use his football IQ to read the game out and close. And more safeties are getting used. It's like even Dylan Tieneman from Oregon gets used this way a little bit as well. It's a good safety class. Emmanuel McNeil from Toledo is very exciting. He's got some cam chancellor to him. But I do think that with Caleb Downs is that he can, again, provide that kind of boost effect for everybody else. He just has to get in the hands of the right guy, but I do think he has some positional versatility or scheme versatility, like if it's a quarter safety or a quarter's defense or something like that. But, again, in this draft class, I would much rather have that kind of what I consider, quote, unquote, safer. I can envision how this guy's going to play for me as opposed to, depends on what team you are, but as opposed to maybe like Keldrick Falk, who I really like, but it's like, hey, that's projection. That's a lot of like, hey, hopefully this works. Or I'd probably defer to offensive linemen more, but there's some offensive linemen more project-y type of guys. So I think the sure thing of him has some appeal in this type of draft class. Okay, Nate, I got one last question. This has been awesome. You're a recurring guest now. We love talking football with you, so we're definitely going to do it again. Rowback question, RHOBACK.com, promo code TAKE. 20% off your first purchase. Q-zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, roback.com, promo code TAKE. Go read Nate on Yahoo. You can listen to his podcast, Football 301, make you smarter, better than idiots like us. My last question, would you sign Trey Hendrickson in for how much? Yes, but not as much I think he's asking for. Yeah, it's interesting. It feels like he's kind of not overplayed his hand because obviously everything, you know, a little bit though. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because, again, age, if you see who's getting paid right now, younger guys, you know, obviously you want to get guys before they're 30, which every year I get older than 30, I'm like, oh, man, this hurts. But I do think, too, is he has some limitations. He's an excellent pass rusher. Like, no one ever doubts that, is that he's a weakness against the run. So it's not just like I'm trading for Khalil Mack or I'm paying that or freaking Reggie White. guys that are just dominant every snap. Hendrickson is a specific player. He has to be used in certain ways and has to be kind of hidden at some time. So he's more of a luxury signing, I think, for a team. So it has to be a team that already has what I think is a good defensive structure that can maybe hold up against the run as opposed to like the Cowboys going after him. I'd laugh. I don't think they will because I don't think they have the money. But I laugh because you said you guys are trying to get better against the run. Right. And then you go with that. So I think it's more of a luxury signing for somebody as opposed to, like, we have to get him, break everything. Oh, my God, we have to get this guy because every single down. So it's kind of like a super, yeah, like I say, a super luxury. It's like having a really good three-point shooter. And it's just like, yeah, yeah, he's really good to have, but I don't know how he plays on defense all the time. You know, there's some limitations to, like, his skill set and everything. So, yeah, I think he's asking for a little too much for what his kind of archetype is, even if he is a very good player. Where would you like to see him go? Like, where would his talents be maxed out? Oh, my goodness. Man, actually, the Rams. Yeah. As a fan of ball. Yeah. No, but they can't afford that. You know, like the Chargers would be interesting. Something like that. Like, if they just want to put them over the top with a guy that can win on the pass rush, they need some defensive help. I mean, the 49ers would be interesting. those kind of teams that are like upper middle class teams that maybe get over the top for the contendership as opposed to maybe a middle class team TBD on my answer on this because now I'm actually kind of marinating on it the Jaguars put them over the top those type of teams that are trying to make that last move I prefer he goes to an AFC team because I think the AFC is so wide open it's incredibly wide open and so I understand teams that maybe are going to get aggressive this offseason so that made me speak to aggression. Yeah. All right, well, Nate, thank you so much. We appreciate it, man. 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Savings not guaranteed. Paid membership or connected payment account required. See Experian.com for details. Okay, we finished with guys on chicks. Hank, you mad at memes right now? No, I'm just noticing. Hashtag noticing. What was the noticing? What he's wearing. What's he wearing? He's asking for it. That's all I'm saying. What's he wearing? That skirt. We can't see it from over here. When a guy's dressed like that, he's asking for it. What is he wearing, Max? He would be wearing a Super Bowl LX champion Seahawks hat. Oh. And it was just put on your desk memes? Yeah, it was just put on my desk. So shout out to whoever put it on. That is a cool, cool looking hat. What Super Bowl was that, though? What's LX? 60? 60, yeah. Who played in that one? Seahawks and the Patriots. Memes, did you ask someone to put that on your desk? No. People just know I'm a hat guy. They're probably just looking out. Just any hat, any stray hat that's laying around. Memes will take the hats. Okay. Gives a good home. Are you taking that personal? I'm just noticing that. You notice it. Yeah. You're in the noticing phase. Filing it into the bank. Okay. All right, guys on checks. This weekend, my fiance and I were at company party for my work where they had laser tag. During the first 15 seconds of laser tag, my fiance ran into one of my coworkers and chipped three of her teeth out. Oh! After going to the ER that night and a specialty dentist the following day, she needs to get three stitches, a metal bar across both of the top and bottom row of teeth to straighten them. Needs three root canals as well as three permanent crowns that she'll have to wear. Do you think she would have avoided this if she would have gotten lower or dropped a shoulder? I know she would love to get your guys' input. She listens to every episode of this podcast and will definitely hear this. That's tough. That's really tough. That's, it depends on what her job is, but I would guess that it's a pretty big inconvenience for her to have three teeth missing at once. Is she Irish? She has soft teeth? Is that a thing? Yeah. The Irish have soft teeth? Yeah, I think the Irish and English have soft teeth. What? It explains what? It explains my teeth issues. Yeah, the Irish blood. She was Irish. Not a lot of calcium. Soft teeth in the Irish context historically refers to a 19th century stereotype about poor oral health due to diet. Okay. So I'm just rocking stereotypes from hundreds of years. Some old school racism. Yeah. Ah, me teeth. Oh, no. Listen, I think that this is going to be a tough, tough recovery for her. It's going to be a very tough recovery for your boyfriend. Oh, no. Oh, she got the Jack Hughes going. That's brutal. Let's see here. I feel bad for her. I mean, yeah, you just got to go to as many hockey games as you can, because hockey fans will appreciate that mouth right now. They'll be like, yeah, you're one of us. Tough chick. Here's, okay, this isn't going to help, but here's what I'll say is, why were you playing laser tag as an adult? Laser tag sucks. Wait. No. Yes. No. Laser tag kicks ass. Laser tag sucks. We're going to have to agree to disagree on that. Gotcha. That's not laser tag. That's paintball. That paintball rocks. But it's the same thing. No, it's not. Good laser tag. That's my point. Good laser tag rocks. Laser tag, I swear to God, laser tag, I've done this rant before, but laser tag, when it first came out, whatever it was, 25 years ago, it was the sport of the future. It was supposed to be awesome. I have not played laser tag in, like, good laser tag. You say good laser tag, Kifty? Where is there good laser tag? I'll find you good laser tag. Every laser tag, the guns don't work. You hit someone and it doesn't register. Sounds like a U-Profit. There's so much tag. Suck at laser tag. No, it sounds like one of two things. One, Big Cat goes to some broke-ass laser tag. When have you guys last played laser tag? Two, he's not very good at laser tag, and he gets frustrated. Answer the question. He gets shot, and he's like, oh, this sucks. Answer the question, because I guarantee you I've played more laser tag in the last five years than any of you guys here. So when's the last time you played laser tag? Last time? Laser tag is a game for children. Thank you. Thank you, Max. It's a children's game, and payfall is a man's game, so as an adult, you should not be playing children. Listen, kids playing laser tag, go have fun. You run around, that's great. If you're an adult playing laser tag, I'm not saying you deserve to get injured, but think about what happens when you do get injured, and then you have to tell everyone what happens. Our office is the office of games for children. Where is the laser tag? Well, we should get some. We should get some good laser tag, and we should turn all the lights off one night and set up like an obstacle course. You know that sounds kind of sick. Good laser tag. This sounds like Waytok's Dave right now. And we're doing... You want to be in his camp? What? Waytok's Dave? Yeah, it sounds like he's a good laser tag player. They did a state draft of... If you had, like, a dream house, what would you put in it? And his first pick was a laser tag. And it was like, dude, how often do you play laser tag? And then I offered... This was, like, a year ago. I offered him free laser tag for life. I will pay for every laser tag game he plays for the rest of his life he has yet to play. Because it's not a game for adults. I'm just saying, if we set it up right, it would be good. I'm sorry that White Sox Dave said it, but White Sox Dave also eats lunch every day. Do you have a problem with eating lunch every day? I'm just saying, you've played laser tag once or twice as an adult, and you have a nostalgia factor, which I get. Nostalgia is a strong drug. Laser tag is adult socks. In our office, it would be sick. In our office, it would be sick. I'm on your side. Sure. In our office, I think it would be cool if we did play. You know what would be awesome? Paintball in our office. Yeah, but then that gets all messy. Who cares? It gets messy. You have people cleaning up. You have people cleaning up. You have people crying. Somebody gets hit in the eye. Exactly cleaning up. A girl gets hit in the mouth. She breaks three teeth. She complains about it. What about just real search and destroy? Great. What's that? Like Call of Duty. Like real guns. Real guns. He's talking about the... And bombs. The most dangerous game. Yeah. Real guns. Yeah. He's talking about war. Yeah. I just think that anyone, any adult who says they love laser tag has not played laser tag in a long ass time. I have not. I have not. But there's good laser tag places and there's bad laser tag places. There's a lot more bad than good. But the question, the answer is they're at a corporate company party. Yeah, just don't play the laser tag. Zach, you would play the laser tag. I played laser tag. It sucks. I do it with my son because it's like, oh, yeah, we come in and it's like, this fucking sucks. We were at a corporate party. I think Big Cat gets shocked by a laser tag. And he's like, this game sucks. I was going to say, laser tag just hasn't broken containment. Like, I know you might not be in the laser tag when you're playing with your son, but if you get some adult comp and it's like 4v4. And you get hurt and you break your teeth. You've got to tell everyone you broke a teeth playing laser tag. That's any sport, man. You've got to put your body on the line. Technology just never progressed with laser tag. I wanted it to be better. I have a very clear understanding of what happened. Big Cat goes to play laser tag. You've got a target on your back. There's like a dozen six-year-olds that team up like they're SEAL Team 6. And he's Osama Bin Laden, and they plot out ways to get him. And Big Cat's like, I'm not having fun. But I had this tape before my kids. He's taking me down. I thought laser tag. Every time I played laser tag, it's like this technology just never got that much better. It didn't. I don't even know the last time I played laser tag. Thank you. But from what I remember, it was fucking awesome. Yes, top of the line laser tag equipment. I agree with you. It would be a great time to play here in the office. It doesn't. 100% it would be a bad. Top of the line laser tag equipment does not exist in laser. Wrong. Dude, it exists, but not in like 90% of the laser tag places. That's why we're getting it here. But you're saying, like, hey, if you got, like, the seal probably has to. What you guys are saying is if you got the perfect version of this, it would be awesome. Yeah, no shit. Yeah, I would like to go ahead and sponsor the Barstool Sports Office for a set of top-of-the-line laser tag equipment. You're going to play, like, one time. No, I'm talking about, like, the best you can find out there. Go find it. If you are a laser tag, like, I want the arms dealer. But you need the obstacles. You need the obstacles, and then people fucking hide, and then they don't get in the game, and the scoring makes no sense. We'll get the obstacles. We're going to get a suite set up. It's also, the problem with laser tagging... I need you to not poo-poo it until you try it, though. Because right now, you're poisoning people's minds before we get game one going. I'm giving my opinion. I can't give my opinion. I will say it will be impossible to film. Correct. Why? I don't think. I actually disagree. You've never seen the movie Cops? Laser tag, it sounds cooler than it is. Everybody gets body cams. Laser tag sucks. Yeah, we filmed the paintball video. That was a great video. Paintball is awesome. I'm in for paintball. Paintball and laser tag is insane. No. Because paintball, when you hit someone, it hurts. And you know you hit them. Yeah. Laser tag. You still know you got hit. Not really. The system is always messy. Also, the one time, like, there's more discrepancy in paintball that... Well, that's just people cheating, blatantly cheating. Gotcha. There was... The biggest fight of all time came from paintball. Oh, no shit. Billy refused to admit when he got hit. Who could have seen that coming? Jake didn't cheat. He did get hanged. No, Billy. No, I said surrender. He said surrender. Okay. We're going to have to put in some clips. Yeah, you got to put in that. Zach, I would like you to maybe take this on as your project. Find me top-of-the-line laser tag equipment. I'm talking the shit that the Navy uses to train their boys. You trying to run a duo's, trios, or quads? How many sets? Let's get some options. Okay. Let's get some options. And then we're going to also figure out an outfit. We're going to design a course. And I think it could make a good video. Because laser tag done properly kicks ass. I agree. It could be all time. Okay. Look at that. Look at this equipment. He got a bow and arrow. Probably going to try to shoot someone in a bullpen. Look at those dudes. Those look worse than the mats. No, these are kids. Can I take a glow mask? This is a kid's laser tag. Dude, the mats are paying for their bucks. I got a mask from DraftKings. One of the red masks. Oh, nice. Laser tag for adult stack. Oh, look at that. It's called paintball. And it's awesome. Battle right? Paintball or Airsoft, also awesome. Airsoft could trump paintball. Airsoft is sick. Anything that hurts a little bit is awesome. I think it hurts just enough, but not as much paintball. Correct. I think laser tag is like TGL for paintball. It's a paintball simulator. Okay, what's the next one? Either way, this woman has to tell everyone that she got hurt playing laser tag. Also, it's not the end of the world because you got hurt at a work event, so you can probably get time off. So just do that. Hey, big boys, mine is Hank and memes. Parentheses, yes, PFT, you're now a big boy. I don't know. I don't think I like that. My boyfriend won't go with me to dance lessons. He says he will only go once he proposes and or when I buy him a Rolex. I think he's popping the question this summer, but I signed us up for a couple's dance class anyway for next week. Is he just stubborn or am I in the wrong for making him go? To a dance class? Now, is the idea going to a dance class for your first dance as a couple? Isn't that always the idea? Yeah, it sounds like you're proposing to him by taking him to this class. You have a dance class? Yes. Don't you have, like, seven? Why do you have to take a dance class? I don't want to. It's all a slow dance. The first dance is a slow dance. I also, I bought, like, a class of five. Because you go to the first one, they're like, oh, one's not going to do anything. You got to get a class of five. I'm in the second of my five class bundle that I bought. I remember zero from class one, so we're just going to do the same song and dance. I'm going to spend a lot of money to just not know how to dance. Which you already don't know. Which I don't know. Learning how to dance. Also, what does it matter? I kind of agree. What does it matter? You don't want to look like an idiot. That's what I've been. No one's going to say you look like an idiot. It's your wedding. Hank might. Yeah, Hank might. Have you thought about just doing like a dance dance, not a slow dance? Like a choreographed dance between the two of you? I'm not choosing anything. Yeah. But the first dance, no one even... Everyone's like, oh, shit, nice, the open bar's back open. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like dinner's done. And if you get off-speed, off-tempo, just lean in and kiss each other. And then everyone's going to be like, Or just say, everyone come to the dance floor. Dance for 15 seconds and be like, everyone come to the dance floor. Fucking stupid. I don't know what to tell you. We start with the guy here. This lady sounds like she's doing a dance class. That's her way of getting a Rolex. Get him a fake Rolex. He won't know. Easy. alright last one why do you guys not ask each other personal slash intimate questions when you hang out you only ask about surface level and stuff in sports you don't talk about each other's wives and lives or how you've been feeling you're missing out on a whole part of life and why do you always feel like you have to go it alone damn that's deep very deep because it's easier I've said this before so I went to dinner with four of my closest friends on Friday night and I do this trick now at the end of dinner I'm just like hey give me a fact give me something about your wife, kids work that I can bring back and report so it seems like we had a deep conversation when the majority of the conversation was like Max Crosby to the Ravens and I think that was about it the thing is with guys when we hang out with our friends that's what we have to get away from all the other stuff. So when you hang out with the boys, then you don't want to bring all the other stuff to the boys' conversation. It's also just not that deep, I feel like. You just want to hang out with the boys and not get serious. I have friends that golf with that. I don't even know what they do. It's better to not know what you're going to do. But it's like, we're boys. That's my boy. Also, let's just be totally honest here. A lot of the conversation with the boys is wildly inappropriate. and take it out of context with the boys. Like, there's shit that's said that I wouldn't say around other people. So you can't just be bringing that outside the locker room. Like, that's the real truth is if you're golfing with your boys, 90% of that kid is not for air. What did you guys talk about? Tits? Yeah. A lot of tits. Tits not for air. Tits back in the day? Yeah. Dude, I love, like, some of my best friends in the whole world, like, I could just sit and we just don't talk. It's awesome. Unless you're like that. I feel like the deep conversations only come like when someone's really drunk and it's like the end of the night. And then you're like, all right. Oh, yeah. That's too much. I think I got to go to bed. Yeah. You're like, I can't solve these problems. It's either like super late at night inside a bathroom stall. Yeah. I'm happy. I'm sorry you're having these problems, but I got to go to bed. Yeah. Guys don't need to talk like that. It's actually the reverse is true, too. Like, girls, you don't need to know everyone's business all the time. It gets a little much. How do you hold all the facts together? Why do you care? Why do you care? Worry about yourself. Women do have, like, I think it's just something that will never make sense to the opposite gender. Like, I can have friends that, like, we just never get on a deep level, and they're my best friends, and I die for them. And then women can have friends that they get on a deep level and they hate. And then sometimes they'll be like, I think they get jealous because they want to know, they get upset that we don't know all the details about all the drama with our friends. That's where they want to get involved and just know about the drama. It's like a new channel that they can watch. It's like, oh, I haven't seen this show with the boys drama. That's where my fact gathering comes into play. Yeah. I just get a little one sheet of facts and I come back and I'll tell you what, The hardest part about going out to, like, dinner with my friends is the drive home trying to hold all the facts in my head until I get home and I can spit them all out. Yeah. Because I forget them almost instantly after that. They want to know about the boys' drama so they can talk about the boys' drama. Yeah. I just, like, I'm sitting there, like, repeating it, making mnemonic devices for, like, where my friend works and what age his kid is. Come home. I just blurt it all out. Like, oh, all right. We're done. Good. No follow-ups. They'll follow up questions, please. Okay. Good show, boys. Anything else? Anything else? Nothing else? How about that hat memes he's wearing? He also just put on some more clothes. Oh, he put on more clothes memes? What kind of clothes? Fashion show. Just a sweatshirt. Give us a fashion show. Stand up. It's a sweatshirt. It's a Seattle. Oh, wow. That's a cool shirt. Yeah, very cool shirt. Oh, yeah. Where are you getting this stuff? Oh, we sell them in the Barstool store. Oh. Memes love sweatshirts. Memes is basically Africa because no one buys that shit, so they just ship them to him. Memes is Africa. Not racist. Memes is Africa. That would be... Yeah, that would be... No, you're wrong. That would be New England Patriots. That would be New England Patriots. No, but no one buys Seattle stuff. No, but Max is right. It's a bad sports town with shitty fans. Oh! They didn't sell it. You talking about the 12s? Yeah. The Who's? The 12s. You know the 12s. That's how many of those shirts we sold. That's good, Hank. You're a funny guy, Hank. You're a funny guy. Well, Meme's didn't buy it. Meme's got donated. Exactly. I feel like today's game is winning Africa. Someone's going to get it today. Championship of Africa. 23. I'm going to go with 50. 12. 56. 88. 89. 86. Puna. Puna. Shout out Puna We got Cole Strange Great player 72 One more 72 72 23. We got to get someone to break the seal. As long as not memes. Memes breaking the seal would be proven. Right now for everybody. Seven. Seven. Seven. Anyone? Someone had eight? You had eight? Zach? I did, but maybe another day. So close. Damn. Love you guys. So happy birthday to Greg Olson. Happy birthday, Greg. Friend of the program. Happy birthday, Greg. I hope it's actually your birthday on March 11th and I didn't just get fooled myself. But I think it is your birthday. It's your birthday. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.