So True with Caleb Hearon

Rosebud Baker has a Tall Baby

67 min
Oct 9, 20256 months ago
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Summary

Comedian Rosebud Baker discusses motherhood, mental health, sobriety, and her Netflix special 'The Motherload,' which documents her life before and after having a child. The conversation covers her experiences with postpartum guilt, her marriage dynamics, and her journey with antidepressants and nicotine addiction.

Insights
  • Postpartum alienation is a significant but underreported experience—friends who promised support often disappear after birth, creating unexpected loneliness despite having a 'chosen family'
  • Parental guilt about career ambitions (SNL, touring) can trigger serious mental health challenges that require medical intervention, not just lifestyle adjustment
  • Advice-giving is fundamentally self-referential—people recommend what they wish they'd done, making unsolicited guidance more about the giver than the receiver
  • Comedians leverage their ability to identify and articulate others' insecurities as a form of social accountability, though they recognize the ethical weight of this power
Trends
Mental health medication (particularly Wellbutrin) becoming normalized in comedy and creative communities as a tool for managing postpartum depression and libido issuesComedians increasingly transparent about parenting struggles and ambivalence, challenging the 'grateful parent' narrativeLesbian relationship dynamics and toxicity becoming more openly discussed in mainstream comedy spacesSobriety narratives evolving beyond abstinence to harm reduction (nicotine vaping as replacement addiction management)Gender role expectations in heterosexual relationships being interrogated through comedy, particularly around childcare competencyAstrology (big three zodiac signs) used as conversational shorthand for personality traits and relationship compatibility in comedy circles
Topics
Postpartum Depression and Mental Health TreatmentWork-Life Balance for Working Parents in EntertainmentSobriety and Addiction RecoveryParental Guilt and Career AmbitionRelationship Dynamics and Marital ConflictNicotine Addiction and VapingMotherhood and IdentityStand-up Comedy Special ProductionLesbian Relationships and ToxicityAntidepressant Medication and Sexual Side EffectsHigh School Social Dynamics and BullyingGender Differences in Parenting CompetencyAstrology and Personality TypingSkincare Routines as Self-CarePolitical Anxiety and LGBTQ+ Rights
Companies
Netflix
Platform where Rosebud Baker's stand-up special 'The Motherload' is available for streaming
LinkedIn
Recruitment platform advertising LinkedIn Hiring Pro tool for finding better job candidates
Sundance Channel
Network where Rosebud Baker filmed a reality show with her gay best friend early in her New York comedy career
People
Rosebud Baker
Stand-up comedian and guest discussing motherhood, sobriety, mental health, and her Netflix special 'The Motherload'
Caleb Hearon
Host of 'So True' podcast conducting the interview with Rosebud Baker
Andy
Rosebud Baker's husband, discussed throughout regarding parenting dynamics and marital relationship
Rachel McAdams
Actress discussed for her role in the film 'Disobedience' and her general appeal in entertainment
Tony Soprano
Fictional character discussed as an attractive TV father figure and source of sexual attraction
Tova Silverman
Rosebud Baker's comedy manager, discussed regarding Jewish cultural knowledge and Hasidic community
Kelly Lyon
Editor who assembled Rosebud Baker's stand-up special 'The Motherload' and created multiple cuts
Lily Sullivan
Comedian and guest on Rosebud's tour, involved in parking lot incident with aggressive man in Seattle
Quotes
"I feel like a loser. Yeah. So, and there was also just like a lot of shit between my husband and I that I, like the rage that I felt towards him that was really funny."
Rosebud BakerMid-episode discussion about special content
"If I can't come, I'm killing myself. And I do mean that. Yeah. I do. No. I do. And I mean that sincerely."
Rosebud BakerDiscussion about antidepressant side effects
"What's so true is people who give you advice are actually just telling you what they want for themselves."
Rosebud BakerFinal segment answer to show's central question
"If you're going to be mean in high school, you have to be prepared for people to come for you."
Caleb HearonDiscussion about high school cheerleading incident
"Mama's on stage. And I was like, oh, whoops. Whoops."
Rosebud BakerOpening anecdote about daughter's perception of her work
Full Transcript
This is a Head Gump podcast. Like last night, she was in the bath and I heard her, you know, she was like, where's mama? And Andy was like, oh, mama's in the other room. She goes, mama's on stage. And I was like, oh, whoops. Whoops. So you're vaping in here. I'm sorry. So you're vaping in my beautiful plain white home. So sorry. I'm just kidding. It will stay in the walls. How much are you doing that? Enough to stay in the walls. Really? No, it's so bad. I worry about the vape. I know, I do too. Yeah? I do too. I'm a mother. It's not okay. You have a child. I know. The vape is crazy. I always am like, it would be one thing if I was like a small town detective. A small town detective vaping. Yes. That makes sense to me. I'm just like, yeah, touching warm blood. Yeah. He's near. Just ripping the vape. Vipping is, do you, I want to ask you this and I don't want you to take it personally. I can't. And I know you won't because we're not like that. Do you feel humiliated to do it? Because it looks silly. No. Okay. That's the thing. You're okay. I should be humiliated. I will do it in a church. Really? Yes. I think it's so, I can't, sometimes at a concert because you know it's the easiest one to travel. Yeah. And I'm not like sucking on the little USB port. I just feel like, I feel humiliated. I know. I know. It's like, why am I doing this? When I started, I was humiliated. Yeah. But now I'm like, I do it all the time. That's how things go, right? Yeah. At first you feel humiliated and then it becomes you're not your vapor. Listen, I'm like an addict through and through. There's been so many things that I've been embarrassed of that I have gotten used to. What are they? You know what I mean? Well, like when I was drinking and stuff like that, like I would be like, you know. Are you sober from the drink? I'm sober. You're off the drink. I'm sober. I don't smoke weed. I don't do drugs, but I do this in a way that you can tell I don't smoke weed or do drugs or drink. Yeah. Yeah. Like this has replaced everything. Everything. Yeah. This is like the Swiss Army knife of your addiction. Yes. This one's going to fix them all. It fully is. Go, go, Gadget, nicotine. Yeah. It's so bad. It's so bad. No, I literally, Caleb, I was like thinking about quitting and I asked God for like a sign. Yeah. I was like, I need, and I'm not religious, but I was like, I need a sign. I was going to be my next question. So yeah. No, but I was like, give me a fucking sign. Right. I walk into a bodega. There's like four drunk teenage girls. I'm going in to buy the vape as they're leaving. They step on my foot. I said, excuse me, but I said it in a country way. I heard them have a meeting about it outside and then they came back in and punched me in the head. Punched me in the head. And I still bought the vape. I was assaulted by a child. The idea of going outside and being like, I think I should punch that bitch in the head and then coming back in and punching you in the head. For real. They literally like thought it through and then came back and one of them was filming it. They were filming it. I was like, this is crazy. And then because she goes, do you want to get punched bitch? And then I started laughing because I was like, why would you offer that? I was like, what are you doing? I love the idea of being like, first of all, I'm stepping outside and taking a meeting with my friends, record just in case. Do you want to get punched bitch? It's like she's giving you every opportunity to step out, to not get punched in the head. To not get punched in the head. And you're getting punched in the head. Yeah. And it was like, that was the sign. I got the sign to quit and I still bought it. And you bought that vape. You bought like a pink leopard print vape. It's never going to stop. It's never going to stop. I was talking yesterday or the other day to a friend. I have a lot of adult friends who say shit like this where they're like, if I see a group of teenagers, I cross the street. They're so scary. I'm like, these people are not, they don't exist. Teenagers are not real people. I don't care about their opinions. I don't think about them. If they were mean to me, I mean, if they punched me in the head, they're getting their ass beat. But if they said something mean about my outfit, I'd be like, you're not a real person. You don't matter. I would have thought that. Yeah. I would have thought that. Then I got punched in the head. And I was such a coward about it. I thought I would like, I thought I'd like clothes line or something. Like I don't even know what clothes line means. I'm like throwing. There's more of this one. Throwing an elbow. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I thought I would have some kind of plan. I literally walked to the back of the bodega counter. Like I worked there and was like, how can I help you? You got punched in the head and then you clocked in. Yes. I was like, I was like, I work for you now. What do you need? It was so crazy. Of course, but I love that. I was like, I thought I would, I didn't even have the courage to say out loud. Yeah. How old were these kids you think? I don't know, like 14 maybe? No way. No, they're all like, if they're 12, 14, they still see a baby doctor. I know that. Yeah. For sure. I'm like, but 12 to 15 is the same age to me. Exactly. And they punched a mother in the head. Yeah. Like you're a mother. You have a baby. I know that was the craziest part. I can't be getting punched in the head. That's what I walked back. I saw, I'm like, I'm buying a vape. I'm leaving my husband and my daughter at the cellar so that I can go buy a vape in the middle of the brunch show. And I get, I go back into the cellar and I like, I have to look at my child in the face and be like, you're going to love it here. Mommy got punched by a team. It's a beautiful world. Like leaving your baby at the cellar to go buy a vape. What do you think the chances are this kid turns out right? Not great. Not great. I mean, but I knew that like the day I got pregnant. I was like, she's got two comedian parents. Yeah. Rough go for her. Rough go. Yeah. What are the chances of her just being like a pretty serious, like I don't know. It's like people think two comedian parents like, oh, probably going to be the funniest kid ever. And I'm like, maybe, but there's also a chance she becomes like a serious academic or something. Yeah. You know, it goes the other way. I'm really hoping that's the way that it goes. You think so? I think if she goes the opposite way, then we did it right. Right. If she ends up in comedy, we fucked up in a way that we can't fix. Well, it's what it is, is I love it. I'm so happy for the way it's all gone for me. I feel very grateful that I've got my people that I like and I've got the way that I like to do it. But I just, yeah, you know so many, it's so fucking hard. You have to bust your ass for so long and you see so many people do that and then not get the other side of it. And I'm like, I don't want you to have that. Right. I don't want you to be broke your entire 20s and 30s, busting your ass, trying, trying, trying and waiting. And then all of a sudden you're 42 and single and have three roommates and hoping that like a 22 year old agents assistant will read your script. And you have zero, you have zero like employment history. Yeah, you have nothing. It's like it's all like barista and server, which I guess that's also a beautiful life. Maybe I'm just like, I'm allergic to struggling. I don't like struggle. I hate struggling. I don't like it at all. What are you a tourist? Are you a tourist? You want to try again? Uh, keep going. I want you to get this. Um, Capricorn? No, but I want you to, yes. Let's just edit it right to that. What are you, what do you know what your big three is? Oh, it's, um, do you want to know? Yeah. People ask me this. Um, I've done this to my mom several times, you know, different guys that I've dated. It's been like, Oh mom, can you send me? Yeah. And every now she knows to say like, who is it this time? Now she knows she's on to the game. Freak is asking. Yeah. She's like, what game man wants to know this about you or what girl you met at a bar bathroom? Um, okay. Here it is. Ascendant. What's that one? That's your rising. I'm Taurus. Me too. Really? Yeah. My son is Aquarius and my moon is Scorpio. Oh, okay. What does that mean? Um, Scorpio moon is pretty intense. What's that? Ooh. Ooh. It's pretty intense. Wow. So like secretive, very secretive, like, um, but wants, but like penetrating. Oh, I know that's right. I'm gonna use the sexiest word for it. Like you, like you want to get to the bottom of like what somebody's motivations are. Oh, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. And like why they do the things they do. Yeah. Um, but we, we have the same, uh, Taurus is our, is our rising. That's why I guess Taurus, when you said you're allergic to struggle, cause I'm also Taurus rising. And does that mean that we don't like to struggle? We don't like to struggle. I don't like to rush. Yeah. I don't like to struggle. I won't even like, people say that Taurus is stubborn, but I feel like I'm more like a creature of habit. Okay. Like if I like a restaurant, I'm going to that restaurant. Yeah. And I'm ordering the same thing. Yeah. I like routine. I don't want to, I don't need to try a new thing. I know that I like this thing. Yeah. But then after a while, I'll be like, I hate this thing. If I had my way, everyone would just wait in place until I came around. Yeah. Like I don't want to have to go to the same restaurant every day, but I want it open anytime that I want to go. And I want my people to be in there. Right. And same with like friendships. Like when I leave town, when I leave LA, for example, after a visit, my friends should just kind of bounce in place like an unused video game character. Yeah. Yeah. You know, and then I come back to town and wake them up. Yeah. You know, that's what I want. I like, I would like that. Yes. That'd be nice. Yeah. Let me ask you this. Maybe this is part of our thing that we have together. When you're ready to leave a place, like say, say right now we were just hanging out. And then I was like, I was like, time to go. I want to go immediately once I have that thought. Absolutely. Do you have that? Yeah. I do not say goodbye. It's time to go. It's time to go. When it's time to go, it's time to go. Yeah. I do it in my own apartment. Really? Yeah. If I'm leaving with my husband and kid, he's like, why are you walking out the door without us? I'm like, because I'm ready to go. Yes. I will see you in the lobby. Let's go. Yeah. Yeah. I just need to go. Yeah. If I'm in a place, doesn't make any sense to me. Horrifying. It's what is holding me here. Horrifying. Absolutely nothing. I was trying to leave breakfast the other day. I was with like six people. There was one person left eating their sandwich. Finish the sandwich. It's time to go. Yeah. It's time to go. Just smack it out of their hands. Yeah. I'm like, and there's like three bites left. And so I stood up and they were like, oh, I'm going to finish my sandwich. And I, in my head, I'm like, you can't. Fucking bastard. You have to carry it and eat on the walk. Yeah. Yeah. Because I'm ready to leave now. Right. I'm going to put a jacket on or whatever. Yeah. Put your fucking sandwich in your mouth and put your jacket on. Hello. Okay. Wait. You talked about asking God for a sign earlier. What are we doing with God? What do you think? What's your deal? What are we doing with God? So what do you think about God? I don't, I'm not like religious, but I don't believe that God is like a man in the sky. Okay. So God is like a man in the sky. Right. Or some sort of daddy figure. Right. Although that would be hot. Would it? Yeah. A little bit. I learned something about you just now. Yeah. Yeah. I love a daddy figure. Really? Okay. Yeah. I was raised by war criminals. So I know. I do. I do love a daddy figure. I honestly, out of respect for you, I was just not even going to bring that topic up because I'm like, oh, she probably talks about it all the time. Yeah. But of course I do know your family lineage. Yeah. Yeah. Your grandpa like invented Reagan or something. Yeah. He built him. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. In a lab. Yeah. No. Yeah. So I do love a daddy figure. I don't. I was like raised going to church and shit, but I didn't like it. And then I became like a fucking full blown alcoholic and, you know, drug addict. And I was like, you know, I do, I got in the program and stuff. And so I just sort of was like, okay, I don't even like the God shit here. But if I can imagine like, if I, if something took care of me enough to like get me sober, then I feel like there is some kind of like benevolent something out there. I see discourse sometimes about AA specifically that people are like, actually AA is bad because it's a form of religious control. And I'm like, well, so is overdosing on heroin or like being so alcoholic that you can't. Right. I think it's fine. I think if people need to call the thing God to get out of that, that's fine. Yeah. I think it works. God can be whatever you want it to be. It doesn't have to be the guy. Yeah. It could be your fucking car. Yeah. If you like a Ferrari, it could be your fucking Ferrari. I know that's right. You know, you worshiping cars. I don't. I do not. Do you care about cars? Not even a little bit. It's weird that cars came to mind. It's weird that you said it, right? But just like, I was thinking of the most materialistic thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like possession. Yeah. Like something that so doesn't matter to me. What is a, what is a possession that you do care about? Yeah. I do make skincare kind of a little bit of a higher power. What's your routine? Okay. So I'll do first to wash my face, then I do a serum. Is this a, you were talking nighttime? Yeah. We're talking nighttime. Okay. Retinol, serum. Sorry. That was the second serum. Yes. There's two serums. Serum, retinol, serum. Chyluronic acid, vitamin C. Then I just got this stuff. Niterium, which is like a multi peptide lotion. Okay. Put that on. And then I get like this barrier bounce shit that's, that Niterium makes. Okay. And I put that on. Yeah. And then I go to bed looking like I'm crowning. Okay. Yeah. Okay. And then. You're like just totally soaked. Totally soaked. Disgusting. Yeah. And then, and then I wake up and I should wash my face, but instead I just put on a fucking sunscreen. Why don't you you're doing all this at night and then the morning you're not going to wash the face? Cause I got a kid. Right. Once she's like, like, once I'm not responsible for her like physical body. Yeah. You know, and she's not like running into shit and trying to kill herself all day long, then, then I will start washing my face again. Okay. Yeah. In the morning. Yeah. That's beautiful. Right now I'm on a hiatus. I don't have a skincare routine. You don't. No. I can't. It's too, being alive is far too difficult. Yeah. At a baseline. Yeah. Like I do find it very, I love being alive. I think about life is so beautiful. Yeah. But really the tasks it takes, like the times I spend out the most about being alive are like, the shit I have to do to maintain this body that I didn't ask for. Right. I'm like, I have to go to the fucking dentist. I have to brush my teeth every night. I have to do, I'm supposed to be doing skincare. I'm supposed to be taking vitamins. I have to move my body all the time. Yeah. I'm like, this thing is too much to keep up. I know, but I feel like it's one of the one things it's like, whenever I, I'll like lay in bed and be like, this is self care. You know what I mean? And I'm just like scrolling on my phone and it's actually just like a trauma response. You know what I mean? Yeah. But skincare makes me go like, this is like a ritual that takes work. That doesn't take too much time and I don't have to sweat. Yeah. So I will do it. That's nice. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I can't, I think for, yeah, I need to change my, I need to frame it differently to myself. Maybe that would work. Yeah. Because to me, so much of skincare, like so much of what people say to me about skincare is they're like, well, if you want to, if you want to maintain a youthful look when you're older and I'm like, I don't, I'm actually really looking forward to when my face looks old because I want to act those parts. I'm excited for those roles. I'm excited for that part of life. I can't wait to look 50 when I'm 50. Okay. So I'm not trying to stay looking young. This is man privilege. For sure. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm so happy to be a man. Oh yeah. Being a woman sounds horrible. My God, I would fucking donate my pussy. How is being, how is being a woman? How is it? How is it? How are you okay? I'm not. It seems bad. No, it's bad. Yeah. It's not great. What's the worst part? Um, don't actually, actually, I thought of one and I don't want to talk about this anymore. Yeah, let's not, let's not. What's the best part? The best part, honestly, the best part so far was having a kid. Yeah. Having one, not being pregnant. Yeah. But like, you know, getting handed a kid that I made was, that was pretty fucking awesome. I wish I could do that. Um, that, yeah, that part's cool. That'd be neat. But it's so hard that it's almost like, okay, you could, I could do that one time. You're not doing that. I'm not doing that shit again. I can understand that. Yeah. I actually don't wish I could carry a baby. I wish I could get a guy pregnant. Yes. Sometimes I wish I could get somebody pregnant too. Yeah. That's got to be really powerful. Sometimes when I'm dating a guy, if he's a cis guy and I like him a lot, I'm like, I would love to get you pregnant with my baby. I know. But I can't. Right. You know, well, that's downside of being gay guy. Yeah, I guess, you know, I guess that's one of the, yeah, sort of a lighter. Yeah, what we're going to camp soon. Yeah. There's not as well. In the camps. I can't get anybody pregnant. Oh, I wish I could get someone pregnant. Well, time to go make license plates or whatever the fuck. Whatever they're going to have us doing. Oh, we're going to camps. We're going to license plate camps soon. Yeah. Yeah. It's not looking good for gay. No, no, it's bad out there. It's bad for gay. I'm not. I don't mean to be laughing right now, but the way that you're. Oh, yeah. Well, I'm going to be making license plates in Alabama within the next year and a half. And I'll be one of the first ones. And it's all Alabama license plates, by the way. 100%. Yeah. Yeah. It's for the. Florida. Well, when they repossess all the gay people's like homes and art to like give it to like, you know. Some Christian. Like straight white families that are willing to have more kids or whatever the thing is going to be, whatever Steven Miller cooks up. Yeah. I'll be one of the first ones to go, I think, to camp. Huck. Caleb goes to camp. Whoo. It's like Ernest goes to camp. Oh yeah, I'm going to have fun in the camp. I'll tell you, I'm having fun in the camp on the way out. Yeah. You better believe it. No, I mean, it is when I think about it, I'm like, it's going to be celebratory. Yeah. Yeah. It's going to be a fun time. I've said for years, since the first time Trump got elected, I said, one way or another, gay camps are coming. Pints, Mike Pence was like a more buttoned up, but he hates gay people. Yeah. And I was like, it's crazy because he's full gay. Oh my God, have you ever seen someone with a gay or vibe? No, just like very like. Yeah, always like giving blue steel for no reason. Can. Yeah. Yeah. But I've said, you put a bunch of gay guys in camps, we're fine the way to have fun. Yeah, absolutely. There'll be places where the cameras don't see. Especially you. I feel like, you know, I was a gay guy and I was in the camps. I'd be like, can I move to Caleb's bunk? Come to my barracks. Yeah. Everyone come to my barracks. The bunk, the barracks. After the chow hall, everyone come to my barracks. After chow. Come on. I love that it's just the military. Yeah. It's the military. Party in my barracks. I look forward to hosting. Yeah. In my barracks. Yeah. Find a way to decorate. I'll visit. Would you? Yeah, but I will, I'm going to be a coward and I will pretend to be Christian. Totally. Yeah. Well, you might not escape the camps. You're sort of a foul mouthed woman. They won't find me. They won't find me. What do you mean you're hiding? I will hide. Yeah. I will hide and I can, I have, you put a wig on me. You're not going to recognize me. That's true. I will take my eyelids off. You know what I mean? I'll get an upper of bluff. And it will, people will be like, who is that? Yeah. Without my hooded eyes, you're going to have no idea who I am. Yeah. Oh, I have those too. Yeah. The way they come over. Mm-hmm. I think if you, if you need, this is what I would do to you if I needed to hide you right now. Okay. I would shave your head. Great. First of all. Yeah. And then I would get. To sad music. Yes. I would shave your head slowly to sad music while we both cried. Yeah. And then I would put on you an asymmetrical bright red bob. Yes. Yeah. And you're a different woman immediately. Yes, okay. And I'm giving you like a brown beauty mark. One beauty mark. Yeah. Yeah. And my tits have to be out. I'll have my tits out. I've been wanting to get your tits out. Yeah. I know. You were saying off camera that you have big tits. I do. Yeah. Yeah. Sort of secret. Yeah. Why do you hide them? Why do you hide them? Why do you hide them? Why hide them? Yeah. I just don't. I don't know. It feels like such a commitment. Yeah. You know. And it doesn't. My tits don't really match my personality. You know. I'm sort of giving like closet lesbian, you know. Like jumping up, hitting the exit signs. Yeah. That's you. Yeah. That is you. Yeah. So big tits, it's a different personality. Yeah. I would have to. I mean, if I did have them out one day, I would start to pursue more reality television. Yes. I would start to get a lot of elective surgeries for sure. I mean, I'm going to do that anyway because why not? But yeah, it just feels like a different. I'm not in that phase right now. Yeah. You know. I don't see it for you. But I have lived kind of like a forest gump life. How so? Just, you know, a lot of random shit that doesn't really match up. Yeah. Where you're like, that didn't happen to the same person in the same life. Give me an example of two. Like what are the, give me two things that have happened in your life that feel so conflicting. OK. Because I know what you mean. I did it. OK. I did a reality show. Did you? Yeah. I did a reality show with my gay best friend for Sundance Channel when I first moved to New York. OK. Then I also was a yoga instructor who taught yoga to Hasidic Jewish women in Brooklyn. How was that? You can't touch them. Of course. So. Yeah. It was weird. Yeah, of course. Of course. It was odd. Yeah. But also it was really kind of sweet because this woman had left her husband in the Hasidic community, which is like, you know, bad there. Yeah. Good to me. I mean, from where I stand, I'm like, good for you, girl. Leave your husband come be your guy. She started her fucking business, right? But she it was like still in Brooklyn and she only had her friends from the Hasidic community. So these other women were like coming to support her. And it was really sweet. Yeah. Yeah. And I was like the only teacher. Did you ever watch the Rachel McAdams Secret Lesbian Hasidic movie? No. There was a Rachel Adams Secret Lesbian Hasidic Jewish woman movie. Yeah. Undoubt or truth. What a chance you're googling it. Unfaithful or ungod. What was it called? Disobedience. Disobedience. Oh, it was hot. Sexy. She like spits in another woman's mouth at one point. Whoa. Hot. Whoa. I love Rachel McAdams. When did this come out? 2017. Yeah. I saw it at TIFF. Wow. I saw it at TIFF because I worked for a nonprofit that sent me to Toronto for like day job training at the same time as TIFF. And I was like, oh, I'm fucking off every night to watch TIFF movies. Yeah. And that was one of the ones I watched. Wow. It was so hot. I love Rachel McAdams. She can do no wrong. Yeah, she's great. She's so charming. I know. And she's great in everything. She is. The Family Stone. Amazing. Hello. So good. Let's wake that up. There's not enough talk about Rachel McAdams. Well, where has she been? Yes. Yes, I don't know. She did that movie, that movie. What was it, Flight? The Killian Murphy movie? Do you know what I'm talking about? Red Eye. Red Eye. Red Eye. You seen that? 2005, yeah. Red Eye, crazy. OK. Rachel McAdams incredible performance. Rachel McAdams, I love her. I really do. And I loved when she was gay. Rachel McAdams. Rachel McAdams, we love you, girl. I do love her. She's so charming. She's a hot, gay woman. Yes. Well, she has that kind of spunkiness. Yeah, you want that in your lesbians. You know. What are you about to pivot to? Do you know Tova? Transition period. Transition. Do you know Tova Silverman? Yes. My comedy manager? Yes, yes. She's Jewish. And I asked her once when I first moved to Brooklyn, I was seeing all the Jewish guys in their hats. Yeah. Not the Yarmulkes, the big fur hats. Yeah. And sometimes they're bigger than other times, right? So I'm at dinner with her, and I was like, what's with the hats? You know, I want to know, like, what's the significance? And how I want to learn about this. And she said, well, I forget the exacts. She's like, well, there could just be extremely pious, or maybe they're celebrating something. I think was part of it. It was like it could be like a celebration of an achievement in studying the text or something. Was she guessing? No, she's acidic. Oh, OK. Oh, she grew up in an Orthodox. Oh, she was staying. OK, so it could be. She grew up in an Orthodox community. So she's telling me for real. And I said, oh my god, so would it be, could I congratulate them if I pass one on a guy on the street wearing a big hat? Should I say, like, congratulations? And she was like, they don't want to talk to you. And I was like, well, obviously that breaks my fucking heart. So I can't be in community with them at all. Congrats. Yeah, I say congrats. And they go, yeah, they don't want to talk to me. Which sucks, because I want to talk to them. I know. You're very curious. You have a curious spirit. I do. And I would love to hang out with them. If they would invite me over, I would come hang out. I would love to chat with them and know about their stuff. What would you ask? What would I ask them? Just kind of how they feel about the world, and what they know about the things that are going on. And if they like, I would want to know how they feel about gay people. And then I'd want to maybe not, maybe I'd like to convince them to like gay people if they don't. You know? Right. I also want to let them know a lot of them are on Grindr. There are a lot of Hasidic guys on Grindr. Yeah. I would definitely sit in for that conversation. I would like to tell them, do you know that there's a lot of your guys on Grindr? Yeah. And that they don't feel comfortable telling you that about themselves? Right. And do you care? Do you mind? And if there's any, I have heard that if one of the curls is cut short, that they are in trouble. Have you heard this? No. And I could be wrong. I'm going out on a limb here and being potentially culturally insensitive. But I've heard that. And if that's true, I would like to meet someone who has a shortened curl and find out what they've done to be in trouble. You want to find somebody on Grindr and you want to run up with a pair of scissors? I did. No. I go, that's mine now. I didn't want to. I'm going to get in trouble for saying that. You shouldn't have said that. I shouldn't have said that. I was at Hasidic. I messaged me on Grindr once. Really? Yeah. He wasn't cute, so I wasn't into it. But. Yeah. I was obviously interested in the idea of it. It sounds hot. I don't want to hook up, but I want to talk about your stuff. I would like to chat with him, yeah. But he wasn't into that. OK. I did try to have a conversation. He was like, are you free now? And I was like, this isn't my rich community. I don't like, you know, it's been a while since I've been single. How long? Five years. Only? I was expecting you to say much longer. No. I don't stay single that long. Yeah. Your girl. I know that's right. I know that's right. Come on. Do you think you'll ever be single again? If I get a divorce, I'm going to stay single for the rest of my life. Really? Yes. Oh, wow. Yeah. Or I'll just date women. Or I'll date women. Kind of rooting on your divorce now. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you getting a divorce in like 10 years and then just exclusively switching to women. Obviously, you know that's like the shakiest thing you could do. I agree. Yeah. Yeah, I have to wait a little while. Yeah. And I do tell Andy, I go, listen, this is working out for now. Yeah. But 10 years, we're going to wrap it up. I'm going to date women. You do what you got to do. Go get some young pussy. Yeah. Yeah. Have some young pussy. Go find like an open miker who thinks you're the funniest person of course she's ever fucking heard in her life. Be the predatory man in the community that we know and love. Yes. Yes. You know, we all have a destiny to fulfill. Yes. Yeah. And he was meant to be that older comic who mentors the younger girls. Yeah. And tells them they have potential. Yeah. God, you know, I started in Chicago. Did you? Yes. Ooh. And those guys are around. A lot of, yeah. Those guys are around. Yeah. They're hitting the open mics and the improv classes and saying, like, God, you're just so fun. I see it for you. Yeah. And they're getting laid off that a lot. Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy. Yeah. God. Anyway, yeah, I can't wait to get back to women. I want you to get back to women. I will. How OK? So I want to talk about your stand-up special, though. Oh, OK. You did, I'm sorry. It's just something I'm interested in. Yeah. You did the first. How did it work out? You did the first half of it pregnant? I did. Yeah. The first half of it, I was eight months pregnant. And then the second half, I did a year later. Because I was really curious about what. I was really scared to be pregnant, to have a kid, to what that life change was. Because I did love my life. And I do hate struggle. Yeah. So I was like, I don't know how well I'm going to adjust to this. Yeah. And I know there's a lot of people who had. I'm like, no human experience is alien to anybody. If you're feeling it, everybody has felt it. You know? Yeah. And so I was like, let me just make a special that's the before and after. Like what it is to be pregnant and then what it is after you've had a kid a year later, what that feels like. And so I took a lot of the jokes from the first half of the special and expanded upon them. Upon them. We expanded upon them. Upon them. For like the next year. And put them together. This editor, Kelly Lyon, who's amazing, she put it together. And I was like, she made me two cuts. She made me one that was just the second hour from the year after. And then she put both of them together into another cut that was both of them. And I was like, I can't really fucking decide between these two. And she was like, just do the one that's most interesting to you. And so I went with the first one. Yeah. Yeah. What made it more, what made it the one to choose, do you think? Because it really, to me, comments on the fucking alienation that you feel after you have a kid. Everybody loves a pregnant lady. And then you have a baby. And they're like, oh, fuck off. You know what I mean? You think so. That's how it felt. A little bit. Yeah. Like, I don't know that anybody actually felt like that. But you're pregnant. And everybody's like, I'm going to be the auntie. I'm going to be there every day. And then like, I had friends send me so many gifts that I was like, just say you're not coming to meet her. You know what I mean? I was like, just say you're not coming over. Just do that. Stop sending me clothes. You know what I mean? Because it is this feeling of like, I loved my friends. I had this, I built up this community, this like actual family that was like my chosen family. And then I had a kid and it was like, where did they go? You know? I mean, a couple of them, like genuine good friends, like didn't go anywhere. But there was a lot of them that I was like, oh, I thought you'd be around. Yeah. You know? I thought I would feel this way. I actually feel this way. And I wanted to tell jokes about that. Because there is something really funny about being a loser. What are you feeling? You know what I mean? I was like, I feel like a loser. Yeah. So, and there was also just like a lot of shit between my husband and I that I, like the rage that I felt towards him that was really funny. Yeah. Tell me about that because that's interesting. Just he's so, you know, I'm like, you just don't have it. You know? Didn't have the stuff? I was like, you don't have the stuff. You don't have the goods, brother. You don't have it. What do you mean? Why are you so mad at him? That he didn't have it. Yeah. I was like, I don't, you know, I'm like, I don't have it. But I figured this out. He does shit where like I'll leave him with her for a weekend and he's like, oh, I'll be like, did she brush her teeth last night? He's like, oh, like he forgot the whole weekend. Like he didn't brush her teeth the whole weekend. And I'm like, that's crazy. She's got to have those brushed. That is crazy. Yeah. So there's stuff like that where I'm just like, you got to be joking. Like I'll try to change her diaper on the floor of the airport. And I'm like, don't have her pussy out by the baggage claim. What the fuck? She, I'm sorry, she can't be naked by the trash can. She can't be. She has to go somewhere. She can't be. First of all, she's huge. She's like 6'2". Yeah. It looks like you're changing an adult woman's diaper. She is big. You know? She's tall. She's going to be an WNBA player. Yeah. Or NBA? She's half my height already. Really? Yeah. Yeah, I noticed that. She stands about here on you. She's 2. Yeah, she's 2. Yeah. So it's crazy. But yeah, I definitely, I just wanted to make a, I wanted to make this special about that. And also like the process of getting pregnant was so crazy. Like Miss Carriage's IVF, then just like getting pregnant the old fashioned way. Wait, why, when you said that, why did I think of, you know, that scene in Brokeback Mountain when she, when he's like trying to have sex with her. And he's like, I want to have another kid. And she's like, I'd have him if you'd pay enough, if you'd make enough money to raise him. And then they end up not having sex and just laying in bed sad. Yeah. That's what I mean to think of. That is kind of the old, yeah. That's the old fashioned way. Just fucking. Sharing at the ceiling. Truly fighting. Yeah. Fighting. Yeah. Yeah. Like a couple of detectives after a long day. I miss it. Yeah. Yeah, I miss it culturally. Yeah. You know, it's still out there. I know. I just would have been so good at being like, if I was like the secret gay guy who had to have like a wife and kids, I would have been really good at that. Oh, yeah. Like my kids would have been like, my dad's low key fun. You know, like they would have loved me. And then when I was old, they'd be like, oh, he was gay. You know? Yes. Yeah. No, I've always said this, that I think gay men would make the best husbands. Totally. 100%. I would have been good at that fake stuff. Yeah. Living an authentic life as a gay guy is really awesome. That's really all you want out of a husband is someone who doesn't bother to fuck you. Yeah. So you can go fuck whoever. Yeah. And then like helps you with the kid. Yeah. And is like supportive and like pats you on the back and listens to your work stories. When I hang out with my girls now, I'm like, we would do so good at domestic life. Yeah. If you didn't need someone to fuck you. Yeah. And I didn't need to be fucking someone. In the two years after I had a kid, I wanted a gay husband so badly. Yeah. Because I was just like, libido was like gone. Really? Yes. Is that normal? It just came back. It just came back. Is that like something that happens? It does happen. OK. Yeah. But I got back on, I got on well butron. Really? Now it's starting to like. Made you horny? It's starting to wake me up a little. Let's go. Yeah. Well, butron orgasms are crazy. I didn't know this. You're fucking again. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. I'm not on anything but maybe I'll try it. Try it. I'll try it. I thought about trying it just to see. Yeah. You know? Yeah. I was, I felt like numb a little bit. Yeah. I was like, I'm not depressed but I'm not like fighting to live. And so I was like, maybe that's. Hey, sister. Sounds like a job for. Been there. Yeah. You know, here's the problem though. I've slept with so many guys who are on antidepressants and they like being alive but they can't come. Right. If I can't come, I'm killing myself. And I do mean that. Yeah. I do. No. I do. And I mean that sincerely. Yeah. It's not like me being silly. I mean like if I can't come, I'm. I'm out. I'm killing myself. Yeah. Turning it off. No, no. Killing myself. Bye-bye. Yeah. I'll see you all around. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Maybe just leave it as your voicemail message. Yeah. To be like, sorry, can't come. Sorry, can't come. Killing myself. So I gotta go. I can't come. I gotta go. Check it out. Yeah. Hey guys, I'm so sorry I can't come. So I'm pulling out. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Chicago. You've been so much. You've been so great. You've been so great. Yeah, no. Need to be coming. Yeah. Need to be coming in all seriousness. It's crazy that I went like a year and a half, really. Or longer than that. Really? Because my kid was 18 months when I finally went on Wilburturin and wanted to fuck again. But it was a long time where I was like, I don't need it. I don't want it. I don't want any attention. Don't look at me. Don't talk. And it wasn't even just for my husband. It was like, if I looked outside of my marriage, I'd be like, yuck. When I considered cheating, it made me sick. Yes. It was like, bleh. Because monog. Yeah. Monog. Yes. Wow. Yeah. Monogamous, but very, very open with each other. We'll talk about all of these things that I'm saying to you right now, I would say to my husband. For sure. Yeah. I think sometimes people that don't hang out with a lot of comedians are very jarred, by the way, we talk about our lives. But I'm just like, yeah, everyone in my life just knows the deal. I'm just going to tell the truth about the situation. Right. I do. The only time I get weird about it, I wonder if you, when I talk about my little cousins sometimes, I get weird about that. Because they're kids and they can't consent to being talked about like that. Yes. And I would never share anything. They say such funny shit that I'm like, it is so funny. So those are the only things I really turn over about like, oh, should I say this? Right. But other than that, I never worry. I'll say really raunchy sexual shit at a show I know my mom's at. I know. That's fine. We're adults. Yeah. I have this one joke right now about my daughter. And I'm like, I can't wait to retire it. It's like one of those things that I'm like, it'll never go anywhere. I'll tell the story on stage. But I'm like, I just don't like it. Because I'm like, there is something in me that's like, she doesn't, you know, I don't want to do that to her. Yeah. It's not. The new LinkedIn hiring pro can't undo your last hire, the lone wolf, who you thought was a good collaborator because you didn't have the right candidate insights. But once you hired them, it was all hoarding, info, declining meetings and howling at the full moon. But LinkedIn hiring pro can find you a perfect fit by using insights from the LinkedIn network to give you a short list of the best fit candidates. Hire right the first time with LinkedIn hiring pro. Post your first job today and get 100 pounds off at linkedin.com slash ai hire. Terms and conditions apply. Doesn't feel right. So interesting to think that like someday she's going to grow up and like watch your stand up. Oh, God, yeah. And be like, oh, that's what that's that's what mom was doing. Yeah. Crazy. Well, she'll say stuff like, like last night she was in the bath and I heard her, you know, she was like, where's mama? And Andy was like, oh, mama's in the other room. She goes, mama's on stage. And I was like, oh, whoops. Whoops. That's so cool, though. It's it maybe it sounds cool, but it felt sad. It felt sad because you're like she when she thinks of you, she thinks of you as being away. Yeah. And over there. That's like what made me. Yeah. I was like, oh, I feel so guilty. Really? I do feel incredibly that was part of the reason why I had to go on like the antidepressants and stuff. I felt so fucking guilty with like SNL and fucking all those hours and being away from her and like never knowing if she was like going to know that I was her mom. You know, I was like, I really started to I wasn't prepared for that kind of guilt. Yeah. You know, that makes a lot of sense. Yeah. I mean, I had a mom who was working all the time and was gone a lot. And I definitely as a kid was like, why the fuck are you gone all the time? You're supposed to be my parent. Like I definitely felt it as a kid. But I will say that makes me feel better. No, but I'm saying I'm like, where is this bitch? I'm abandoned. You know, and I haven't forgiven her. You know, and I never will, but no, she chose her path. But you have to let me finish. No, as an adult, I'm like, hello, do you don't want like I'm so glad I had a mom who was like doing shit and who like did make time to like have a life and like was providing for us. Oh, for sure. OK. And kids don't fucking know anything. They're stupid. Yeah. They are dumb. No, they are so dumb. Their emotions are like fickle and dumb. They get upset about nothing. No, she asked me to talk like Elmo and she thinks I'm Elmo. Yeah, it's like you're not wise. Yeah. Sorry. You believe anything. Yeah, you would fall for anything. You're a rub. Yeah. Yeah. Kids are rub. They're rubes. You're a rub. You're a rub. You're an easy mark. Get out of here. What do you hope for? What do you want from her? Like, what do you want to happen for her? If you had your dream, like, what would you want her life to be? Whatever she wants it to be. I know people say that and I hate that. But that's true. You don't have a dream for her. Yeah, you're not like, oh, I hope she's I have to dream for myself. I know. But don't you dream for her sometimes when you're bored or you? OK, all right. If I I would say I really do want. I want for us to be close. Yeah. And hopefully she's gay. You think so? Yeah. You want gay kid? I do. OK. I don't know that that's going to eliminate the threat of men, but it does eliminate like the relationships with them. Yeah. Where I'm like, well, the threat of men is omnipresent. Yeah. Yes. But it's I. I think about the relationships that I was in and I go, if anybody fucking did to my daughter what they did to me, I would end their fucking life. You friends with a lot of lesbians? Not really, actually. Yeah. I guess maybe I'm gathering that because when you said that, I don't think you know how bad it gets with lesbians. Really? It's it's a type of toxic that they couldn't make in a lab. Lesbian. I mean, you think you think men and women get into it? Yeah. A lot. Dude, these girls are going through it, dude. Lesbians are you're like blowing my mind right now. I'm shaking right now. I'm like shaking, trembling, thinking about some of the things my lesbian friends have been through, because what it is, is they're all they're like super. I'm thinking like DV, though. Fantastic violence. Yeah. Look. It's obviously worse with straight people, but I'm saying there's something that can be OK. When you get to toxic women together. Yeah. And they understand like therapy language on a level that's like. Oh, God, yeah. No, I've been there. I've been there. Yeah, the emotional torment that these women are able to put each other through. Right. Lesbians is a different kind of torture. I could see that. It's beautiful as well. I do think they have the best situation overall. Lesbians. Mm hmm. They have the highest likelihood that it's going to go well. Yeah. Lesbians. But man, I have been through some lesbian breakups that would like they're prisoners of war that haven't seen. Well, then why do they why do they keep? Why do they all stay friends with each other after they can't help it? They can't help it. That's just how they are. I'm going to cry. I guess I should ask my sister. My sister is. Lesbo. Yeah. Nice. Yeah. She just got married. Is she the boy or the girl? The girl. Yeah. The girl. Nice. For sure. That's really nice. Sometimes there's two boys and two girls, even when they're both girls. But yeah, there's a lot of times a boy and a girl. Yeah, she's the girl. Yeah, for sure. That's nice. Yeah. You know, I think the girl is whoever planned the wedding. Yeah. One you can tell by how they dress. Yeah. Well, also, yeah. Yeah. I usually get them. It always makes me laugh when homophobes are like, they try to be like, which one's the boy and which one's the girl? I'm like, take a look. Yeah. Yeah. Whichever one is. It's pretty easy. Just eyeball it. You dress like an electrician. That's the boy. Mm hmm. Yeah. Short hair. Yep. The girls were in the Britney Spears t-shirt. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. Pretty easy with guys as well. Yeah. Yeah. It's easy to tell. Yeah. I should ask her, though. I mean, she didn't really date that many. She like, dated a woman and married her. I think she did one woman before and then it was like a three week thing. And then she met Chloe and now they're married. Yeah. But before that, it was all men. Chloe's the boy, huh? Chloe's the boy. Tough name for the boy. I know. Do you know one of my favorite trends is? What should we? What? Online when when they they go ask, like, like it's a thing I've seen about I get served a lot of lesbian content because of my lifestyle and. Can I vape while you while you say this? Yeah. Are you upset by it? No, I'm just worried about you. Who knows this? OK, have you? Yeah, I have a I want you to vape. I feel like you're mad at me. No, I'm just concerned. I'm kidding. I'm really not. I really don't judge the vape. You look ridiculous, you know. You look ridiculous, but you should see some of the things I eat. There is a there's a fan that's like literally blowing. I don't mind that. OK, everyone has to have their thing. And my thing, the reason I don't I don't do I don't do coke. I don't drink. I don't the only things I do are you never do any of those. No, I smoke weed. OK. And I eat garbage. OK. These are my things. Thank God. And that's so I'm like other people do meth and go to stay out at raves all night long and drink and drink and drink and drink and drink. Right. That's their thing. Yeah. My thing is that I eat garbage and smoke weed. There are some methods that eat garbage. Totally. Yeah. Totally. Yeah. Yeah, there's an interesting thing in the gay guy community where the the fat phobes in the gay guy community will be like, I want someone who takes care of themselves and then they're on meth at like, you know, circuit parties. Right. And I'm like, right. So you mean something else, but I get the idea. I get what you're saying. Yeah. Someone who looks like they take care of themselves. I got the message. I understood what you needed. Yeah, they just meant, yeah. Then then which is fabulous. Then is so fun. I love them sometimes. I've dated them people. Yeah. Some of my closest friends are then I don't I don't like a really thin look on a on a guy. Really? Yeah. Yeah. It always to me, I'm like, are you sick? Yeah. You know, Joe, my God, you know, who the hottest TV dad of all time was to me? Who? Dan Connor from Rosanne. Yes. God. Well, actually, mine is more toxic, but it's Tony Soprano. Yeah. Tony Soprano was. I learned a lot about you just now. Yeah, yeah, you did. Yeah, that's beautiful, though. I've I've rewatched that show so many times and every single time I have sex dreams about him. You know, he is he is sexy, but he's not nice to Carmella. Yeah, but he'll he'll fuck you on the subway in your dreams. Yeah. But he's bad to Carmella. But Carmella is bad to Carmella, too. Sorry, I'll say it. What do you mean? Carmella knows what she's getting into. That's what that's the beauty of Carmella is that she's not like a one dimensional character. You know that she knows what the fuck's going on. She loves it, too. And she's like she gets into like the, you know, the church to like a tone for it. But she's never going to leave. Yeah. And it's she likes the money. She loves the money and the status. She likes being the first lady. Yes, she does. And she always she postures as if she's like outside of it. But yeah, you're part of it. You are a part of it. Yeah. And don't get me started on Meadow. I mean, what a pill. Yeah, Meadow is. Absolutely. What a pill Meadow is. Stop it. Stop it, Meadow. Who's your favorite character on that show? Um, I would say Christopher. Really? Yeah. I must be loyal to my capo. Yeah. I like Christopher just because he's such a fuck up. Yeah. He's such an interesting character. Yeah. You know, I wouldn't say he's like my favorite, like, oh, let's hang out. Yeah. But he's my favorite character in terms of like the ways written. Mine's Janice. Janice. Yes. Janice. Icon, dude. Oh my God. Icon. Janice is great. I didn't even think about Janice. Janice is amazing. She is. She's fucking awesome. Yeah. She's like the hippie sister that went away and came back, ends up, which this happens to a lot of hippie girls. They go back and just end up doing the marrying the guy from Home Thing. Yes. Then she killed him, which is awesome. That's the greatest scene. I will watch that scene when I'm PMSing. Yeah. Just to blow off steam. Some feminine rage. Yeah. God, it's so fucking good. What were we talking about? I don't know. Yeah, we really got away from it. I have a question for you, though. Yeah. What's so true to you? Um, shit. Rosebud Baker, what's so true to you? What's so true to me? You didn't think about it, did you? No, I didn't. It's the whole name of the show. I know, I know. Um, this is a shame. What's so true? Well, let's keep talking and it'll come to me. Well, we could play a segment. You want to play the game? Yeah. Chance, my papers. Biderman. Biderman? Chance has to bring me my papers. Thank you, Chance. Thank you, Chance. Rosebud. Yeah. I'm going to read you 15 statements. Wait, I thought about it. Well, we'll come back to it. Okay. I'm going to read you 15 statements. You're going to tell me as quickly as you can if you think what I just said is true or false. Okay. If you get 10 or more correct, we're going to give you 50 US dollars. Okay. Huge. You ready? You ready? Yeah. Sea otters hold hands when they sleep. Yes, true. Humans have been on Earth longer than dinosaurs were. Uh, true? False. False? And is the most spoken English word. False. False, it's the. Langley High School's mascot is Harry the Whistleblower. False. False, it's. Like a Viking. Otto the Saxon. Hawaii is the only US state to never record a temp of zero. False? True. Fuck. Only female mosquitoes bite. False? True. Shit, fuck. And I'm not surprised to hear it either. Oh. Austin Butler's from Waco, Texas. False. False, he's from Anaheim, California. Yeah. Visa is older than MasterCard. True? True. Emerson College has a campus in Netherlands. False? True. What? I went there. Sorry. May 11th is the most common birthday in the US. False. False, it's September 9th. A group of zebras is called a dazzle. I hope so. I hope that's true. I'm going to say true because I want it to be. True. Yes. Water has an expiration date. False. False. Jessica Alba has a Tony Award. No. False. St. Louis is the capital of Missouri. I just rejected it. No. No, she can't. No. St. Louis is the capital of Missouri. Is that true? False. Jefferson City, Faketown. A mountain lion, puma, cougar, and panther are all the same animal. I'm going to say true. That is true. Yeah. How'd she do? 10. Shut up. You won. Really? Yeah. $50. I got pretty close. That's probably going to be cool. Slow that down in the edit. Make me all cool on that. Yeah. Rosebob, what's so true to you? I think that what is so true is people who give you advice are actually just telling you what they want for themselves. What do you mean? When somebody offers you advice, what they're saying is what they should have done. What they should have done in the situation? Yes. Oh, I thought you meant they're telling you what would be most convenient for them for you to do. Like if you're like, oh, should I go to the grocery store today and I really need you to get out of the house? I'd be like, oh, you have to. No, no, no. You're saying you're OK. Got you. I'm saying if somebody's offering you advice, they're saying they're like, be like me. And you shouldn't listen to people who do that. Yeah, I'm like this. I'm like that. What? I do that. I give people advice to be like me. Yeah, me too. Yeah, I do that. But I think it's, I think everybody does. You think it's a common thing. That's why I think it's so true. Yeah. So you don't think that we should take that advice though? Listen, if it works for you, it works for you. Yeah. But I don't think that you should take advice from anyone. That is like, I don't like anybody who calls themselves like a guru or anybody who calls themselves like a thought leader or a life coach. Or I think those people especially are mentally unhinged and need some help. They need more help than you do. Yeah, they're worse off. If I ever come to power, there'll be very specific groups of people that are in trouble. And it won't be the boring. Like it won't be like immigrants and stuff. That sucks. It'll be like life coaches. Yes. Like you're going to jail. You absolutely belong in jail. You're charlatan. You're going to jail. Yeah. And especially the ones that have a specific set of rules. You know what I mean? A set of like, I'm thinking like short men that assault people. And period. Short men, period. Period. Yeah. No, I do like short men sometimes. Well, when they're young. So do I. When they're sweet. If you're sweet. But when a short man's angry, it's too much for the little container. Well, I think tall men really, yeah, that's true. You know, you need to be tall so that the hate can spread out. Yeah. And you're short. A short man who's angry is actually really terrifying. We'reifying. You're so right. But I do think that tall men, they get a lot of love. Yeah. And I loved a tall man. You know, I still love it. I'm married to a tall man. Yeah. But you know, once you're pregnant with their kid, you're like, I should have thought this through. How tall is your man? 6'2". It's good height. Yeah. It's a good height for a man. It's a good height for a man. Yeah. Not a great height for a fucking baby. Baby, your baby's... You're really worried about your baby's height. I really am. She's tall. She's... I just think it's so crazy that you can give birth to someone who's taller than you. Yeah, yeah. It's probably going to happen. That's so fucking crazy. Like, you never hear about that. You know, like, you wouldn't see a fucking hippo give birth to a giraffe. Right. You know? We do that as humans though. Yeah. My grandma was right here. Crazy. I tower over her. Crazy. I could kick her down so easy. Yeah. I never do because I love her, but she would be easy to kick down. And you do think about it. Push her. Right. No, I just think she's right there where my foot is. You know? So you thought about it? I don't want to kick her down. But you've thought about it. It would take nothing to do it. It would feel good. It would take nothing to kick her down. It might feel good. To kick Lillian down. Would it make you giggle for a second? Well, she would fall funny probably. I don't want to hurt her. No. But of course she would fall funny. She's a little old lady. Yeah. And the sound she would make would be hilarious. I wouldn't even really have to. She'd probably say something like, blirk, blirk. You know what I mean? Or yeah, or something like that. Something crazy. Yeah. I mean, yeah. It's funny. It's funny to think about. But I don't want her to fall. No. Because I love her too dearly. It would be sad. I did want to bring one thing up to you. Yeah. You got kicked off your high school cheerleading team. I did. How and why? Where's the research team? Right there. Bravo. You're looking at him. I got kicked off my high school cheerleading team. I made a joke about somebody's appearance. Rosebud. Yeah. I did. It's horrible. What did you say? I literally can't. It was a fat joke, wasn't it? I can't repeat it on a podcast. It was a fat joke, wasn't it? No, it wasn't. You sick? No, it was her face. Oh. It was about her face. How old were you? 16? 17? I don't know how old you are in high school anymore. It's like 15 to 18. Yeah. So around that. Somewhere in there. Same age. Why'd you do it? Did she at least deserve it? I think she had said some shit about me behind my back or I'd heard about it. I don't remember exactly. All I remember was I was right. Yeah. Which is what you need to remember in arguments. So it was, yeah. But should I have made the joke that I made? Not probably not. No? No? Probably not. Yeah. But did it feel good to say it? Also, her face shouldn't look like that probably. If she's going to be mean. That's the thing. If you're going to be mean, you have to be prepared for people to come for you. That's what I'm saying. I was like, you should be pretty. Yeah. If you're going to be mean in high school, you should be pretty. That's one of the main rules of high school. Yeah. Hello. Yeah. I remember there was a girl that I went to high school with who she accidentally sent a text about me to me. Shut the fuck up. In high school. And it was really mean. It was about how fat I am and how I need to get on a treadmill. And I hadn't done anything to her. She was annoyed by me, which is not doing something to someone. Being annoying is not doing something to someone. And I really hated that girl for a long time. Because I was like, who were you going to send this to? Right. Did she tell you? She didn't tell me who she was going to send it to. Did she cop to the fact that she was like? Oh, she felt horrible. She felt really bad. What did she say? How did she try to save it? She was like, I'm so sorry. That wasn't supposed to go to you. Obviously, bitch. I feel so bad. And obviously, you don't deserve that. And I was like, yeah, we're not friends. You shouldn't talk to me for a while. And she was like, I'm so sorry. Can we talk about it? And I was like, no, there's really nothing to talk about. That was really mean. And I don't want to talk to you for a while. And I think I did eventually end up saying something mean about her family. I was like, if I came from a family like yours, I probably wouldn't be saying things this mean about people for no reason. Oh, absolutely. She came from a broken family. Yes. Good for you. Good for you. But I can say that because I also come from a broken family. But that's why I didn't talk bad about people. Because my family is broken. Yeah, that's why. Yeah. No, I really think that if you, I love that you said that. If you come from a broken family, you need to keep things pretty tight. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The home structure is a mess. You should know how to keep secrets. Don't worry about me being fat. Where's your dad? Right? You know? Maybe if you were better at keeping your mouth shut, he wouldn't have left. What? Meanwhile, my dad's not there either. You know what I mean? Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. Yeah, God love her. That's the thing is, I have a problem. If I, if somebody really pisses me off, OK? And it takes a lot. It takes a lot. It does. But once somebody gets me there, I will say something that I cannot take back because it is true. Yeah. I will say something that is. Yeah, you'll go to the truthful place. I will go to a truthful place. Yeah. And it's something that I've been observing for a long time. Yeah. And you can tell that I have chosen not to say anything about it. Yeah. And now I've now I've crossed that threshold. Well, I think a lot of comedians have this superpower, which is that I'm not necessarily thinking negative about the thing that you hate about yourself. But it's easy to tell. It's so easy to tell what someone doesn't like about themselves. Yes. And I can certainly log it and I'm not holding on to it. I don't want to hurt someone ever. No. But I will say I have a power that I don't use almost ever. That I could really take someone down if I needed to. Oh, 100%. And I don't want to. But sometimes when people are evil, you get the impulse. Yeah, Caleb, it does kind of feel good when it happens. Of course, because if they've been evil, it's like I'm do I'm Batman. Yeah. I'm like I'm Robin Hood. Yeah, I'm a vigilante in my own life. Yeah, I'm doing good. I'm stealing from the rich and giving to the poor. Right. You know, yeah. Even though you don't want to use it. The poor is me and the rich is also me. And the rich is me as well. Yeah. Yeah, I'm stealing from me and giving to me. Yeah, it does feel good. I would love to see you lose your shit at some point. I mean, I don't want that for you, but I would love to see it. Like I would watch it and be proud. Chance has known me since we were 17 years old. I mean, when do you think I most lost my shit? Oh, man, there's been a couple of times. I think maybe when you most lost your shit. Hmm. It doesn't happen very often. It doesn't happen super often. But there's been like little. There you you kept it pretty calm, but you got close in Seattle when that guy was being weird because we like bumped into his door in the parking lot of the Starbucks. Oh my God. You almost got a very interesting side of me. Yeah. So what happened was we were on tour and it was who was in the car. That me, Lily, you in Virginia. Yeah. So Lily Sullivan was with us. Do you know Lily? She's this comedy bang bang. She's so fucking funny. I don't think I know her. You got to check out her stuff. She's so, so funny. She's been on the show. She's very funny. She went on tour with us for a little bit in the Pacific Northwest. It's me, Chance, our friend, Virginia, who does social media for the show. And then Lily, who was like our guest for that leg. And we were leaving a Starbucks and when we were getting in the car, one of the girls tapped that there was a car next to us, like tapped his car with our door. Yeah. Barely. Right. And this guy gets out and starts like, like yelling at her. And I was like, you get in the car and then I got out and I was like, what's your problem? Yeah. And he was like, she hit my car. And I was like, she barely fucking touched it. You need to relax and lower your voice. Yeah. It's just like, I don't know. He was probably like 25 or something, something like Jim Bro. And he was like, he was like, look, and I was like, I'm looking at it. There's nothing. And he was pointing to like a dirt spec that had like transferred from the door. Right. And I went, I think you'll fucking live. Yeah. And he goes, he goes, no, no, give me your information. I was like, I'm not giving you anything. We're fucking leaving and you're not doing anything about it. Goodbye. Yes. And I got in the car and then he like, followed us for a second. Yeah. I mean, pictures of our license. Oh, he goes, he told me I'm going to take a picture of your license plate. And I go, great, have fun sending a picture of my rental car license plate to the cops. What does that mean to me? I was like, I was like, you're a loser getting your fucking car. I was inches away from having a physical fight with him. Yeah. Because he was yelling. Was it Lillie or Virginia? It was at Lily. It really pissed me off. Yeah. You're like yelling at like a woman who barely touched your car. I was like, Psycho, getting your fucking car and his tone immediately. He didn't like get super cool, but his tone shifted big time when I got out of the car. And I'm like, so you know what you were doing then? Yeah. You were being menacing because you thought you could get away with it. Right. So you're evil. And someone should kick your ass. Yeah, I'm not going to because I have to go to a show. I have a show to get to. I have to do a show, a sold out show. But if I didn't, perhaps we would fight. Fight. We might fight with our hands. Yeah, that was close. That was that was probably the most recent time, actually. Oh my God, I would love that. That's hot. That was crazy. That's hot to me. I'm thermotoxic. You are. Tony Soprano told a lot. Yeah. Yeah. Tony Soprano gave a lot away. I know, I know. I can't help it, though. There's something about it that like a man losing his temper, like in defense of a woman. Does something. Oh, love it. Nice. Well, good to know. Yeah. Rosebud, it's been a delight to have you. It's been a delight to be here. We love you here more than life itself. I love you more than life itself. Thanks for having me. Do you want to tell people where they can find you, where they can watch the special, etc? Yeah, you can watch my special on Netflix. It's called The Motherload. L O D E, not the gross way. Yeah, yuck. And I'm on tour. You can check my website, rosebudbaker.com. Go see Rosebud on tour. We love you, dude. Thanks for doing it. Thanks for having me. Yeah, anytime. That was a hate gun podcast.