CHRISTMAS AT THE CATNIP CAFE (LIVE!) w/ Paul F. Tompkins

This is a Head Gump podcast. Hacks is back for its fifth and final season and so is the Hacks podcast. Join the Hacks creators and showrunners Lucia and Yellow, Paul W Downs and Jen Statsky as they unpack the Emmy-winning comedy series. On each episode, hear stories from the set, what goes on in the writer's room and how these beloved characters close out their final season. Watch Hacks streaming exclusively on HBO Max and listen to the Hacks podcast on HBO Max or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi everybody. This episode originally aired live on our YouTube on December 22nd and we were raising money for a charity called Neighbors for Refugees. And we have hit our $5,000 goal. Hooray! You guys are amazing. Thank you to everybody who donated. When this episode comes out on December 31st, the fundraiser will still be active so you can find links to donate on our YouTube, on our Instagram, in this episode description. But if the campaign has closed, please just consider donating to Neighbors for Refugees anyways. It's a really great organization. We'll talk more about it in this episode so you can find out more. And yeah, we love you all very, very much. We hope you had a beautiful, wonderful, perfect holiday season and we shall see you in 2026. This is Emily, Henley, and Sammy. And you're listening to Too Scary Didn't Watch. Hi, everyone. Welcome to two-seasonal Dying the Watch. Oh, rebrand. I'm Emily and I love watching Christmas movies. I'm Henley and I also love watching Christmas movies. I'm Sammy and I formerly did not enjoy watching Christmas movies and this movie has turned it all around for me and now I love watching Christmas movies too. Yeah. I mean, Hot Frosty couldn't do it. Couldn't do it compared to... Oh, Hot Frosty was also pretty good, I guess. I mean, Hot Frosty was pretty good, but significantly fewer cats than Hot Frosty and sorry, I just get ahead of myself. This movie has cats. So excited to be here with my friends, the most wonderful time of year, to talk about what is, will now forever be known as the most wonderful movie. And before we get into that, we're here for a great cause. Henley, would you please tell us who we are supporting tonight? Oh, okay. So I am, first of all, I'm going to get a little serious just for a second. It's just for a second, everybody. Only for a moment. Don't freak out. She's going to get silly again. And then I'll get silly again, but just for a moment, I want to tell you guys about this amazing organization. It's in my community. It's neighbors for refugees. So this is a small nonprofit. It's made up of volunteers and 90% of donations go directly to resettling refugees in the Westchester area. And they do so, this is literally like boots on the ground. Like they are helping people, you know, really just find peace and stability as much as they can in a new place. So this can mean that like they're helping locate apartments or helping to furnish that apartment. They're helping to find employment. They're helping to provide ESL lessons or organize medical care or transporting people to and from appointments. It involves all of that. But then it also more recently within the past year, a lot of the money that they have been fundraising has had to be redirected to legal fees because just, you know, we all know the upsetting reality is that refugees and asylum seekers with valid claims and proper documentation are at risk. These are being torn apart. It's really scary out there right now and it can take thousands of dollars, tens of thousands of dollars for these families to navigate the US court system and they just need help. So there's a video that I just put on our Instagram that shows you like a good overview of this organization if you're interested in learning more. But I think that, you know, the main thing I want to leave us with is a quote from their website, which I really liked. Hope is the capacity to face reality no matter how difficult and still seek every possible good. So in the spirit of hope and in the spirit of seeking every possible good, we're here to talk about Christmas decorations. We're here to talk about new beginnings. We're here to talk about cats. We're here to talk about hallmark movies. And this is the concept. We're here to talk about the power of how three weeks can change everything about your entire life. It's enough time, folks. It's enough time. The power of moving from a big city to a small town, all the small towns out there that are thriving. We're going to talk about it. Anyway, so yeah, thank you guys for being here. Thank you for helping raise money for this really, really important and great organization in my community. So yeah, that's it. And if you're listening to this, there are links to donate in our Instagram bio and there's also a link in the YouTube description. So help us raise some money. It can be very overwhelming to know who to help and where to give and everything's hard. And it's always really, I really appreciate when someone has a direct connection to an organization. And it feels like you know who you're helping. And that is a really like, I don't know, it's just a wonderful feeling. It's helpful in these times where everything feels really scary and lonely and you feel lost. So I'm so glad you brought this to our attention, Hen. And I'm glad that we can all have a little fun, spread a little hope and send a little send a little money. You know, it is the season. I do know. And we should get to it now that our movie, we should get to it now. We should get to it now. The movie that we are going to be talking about is Christmas at the Catnip Cafe. Joel asked, why did you pick this movie? How'd you pick this movie? I said, because you wanted to do a Christmas movie and this one has cats. And this one was like, so. Right. So and I think we made 100 percent the right choice. I agree. Have we, I don't think we've ever done a movie that focuses so much on cats. Have we? Is this the first one? Yes. I feel like we need to do this more for you guys. Just for your souls. The quiet place one that pretty heavily features those two cats. But the quantity in this is greater. So many cats. Yep. Yep. Christmas at the Catnip Cafe was directed by Lucy Guest, written by Tracy Andrin and Elena Valdez, starring Aaron Cale, Paul Campbell, Francis Flanagan and Megan Young, streaming on Hallmark. Who all got a subscription just for this? Three out of three people will get a Hallmark subscription. Just watch the Christmas Catnip. That is an endorsement. And I actually saw a fourth person raise his hand backstage. And we're bringing him out right now. It is beloved, correspondent Paul F. Tompkins, Mary Christmas to us all bringing the spirit. Yes, indeed. I signed up for a free trial. Oh, yeah. I will be canceling as will I. Very soon. Although not before I watch, not before I watch round and round starring my friend, Vic McHales, which is a Hanukkah Hallmark movie. Oh, OK. Not too yet. OK. Lots of gems out there. And then I'm out. And then you're out. And then you're out. You know what? Two pretty good. Right. I think that's pretty good. I was pretty tempted by the glass blowing holiday movie as well. So maybe I'm speaking too soon. And I find at least one other movie in there that we want to watch. Yeah, this was my first. This might have been my first full Hallmark movie that I ever watched. And to end. Wow. I've seen like versions of inspired by. But I think this was my first life. Was Frosty not a Hallmark movie? I think it was Netflix. Oh, you're right. It was a Netflix movie. I'm getting them confused with the Netflix ones, too. Netflix is trying to. Yeah. Other people try to do it. You know, I mean, the Hallmark ones are of a real specific flavor to that. They have commercial breaks, which is a really fun. Oh, yeah. When they like. They fade to black and fade back up. Fade to black, fade back up. And I and it's not like when you watch a movie on television where it picks back up in like the, you know, it's like we just jump like, I don't know, a day, 45 minutes. Like we don't care. We're just like, well, something else. I don't know who cares. Like sometimes it fades to black. I felt like as the scene was ending, like we didn't get like a clean finish. It's just like fade out on the scene. And then they're like, and anyway, sometime later. I loved this movie and I can't wait to talk about it. I have to say I've mad respect for the whole Hallmark thing for the ecosystem that it is. I have I have seen Hallmark movies where I've not seen one in quite a while and the the comfort of it is like the formula is impeccable. You you feel like even if it's not for you in general, you feel like you're in good hands. You know what I mean? It's a very relaxing experience. Yes. Yes. Yes. I noticed this throughout the film. They kept returning to the concept of the cat cafe, like no matter what conversation, no matter where they were, no matter who the characters were, no matter the like they always came back to the cat cafe. And there's something, you know, reassuring in the predictability around even just the subject matter at hand. Like we're going to stay. Yes. With the cat. You know what that reminds me of, Hen? Do you remember when you were taught to write like papers in elementary school and it was like, well, you write, you start with an introduction paragraph. And then you have three supporting ideas and each of them at some point, you need to refer back to the idea you put in the introduction paragraph. And then you go and in conclusion, and then you kind of just reframe the whole thing. Every Hallmark movie, I think is basically that they're like Christmas at the cat cafe can change your whole life. And they go, example one, you can, you know, you're going to meet this guy. He loves cat cafe. Example two, you will be reinvigorated with the holiday spirit. Example three, you'll find a sense of community and a place to call home. So in conclusion, as you can see from points one, two and three, Christmas at the cat cafe can really change your life. It's like, it's just, it's. It's a puzzle piece for our brains. Thanks so much. It's good for our brains. The world is too complex. We need simplicity here. Give me simplicity. Yeah. Have you guys been to a cat cafe? Emily, I know you have. Because I was with you. I went for your birthday. I never have. I would love to go to a cat. I never have. I'd go to one. Highly recommend. I would love to go to one. Yeah. I've actually, I've honestly, I think I've been to like, I think I've actually only been to two, but I think I've been to two. They're great. I know I've been to more than one. Tell us like, what are your thoughts? You're not sure if you've been to three. Exactly. You don't want to make that claim. I'm really not. Just in case. It's definitely more than one, but it could have just been two. Does a cat cafe, does a cat cafe like smell bad? Great question. No. How do they keep a cat cafe smelling good and not like cats? Do you know what I mean? I don't recall it smelling bad. I don't recall it smelling bad. I think. Although, you know what? I'm talking to two people who live so closely with so many cats. You guys don't even have the smell sensors anymore. I mean, I caught, I hope that's not true. What a nightmare. I think it's probably true. I think it's probably a little true. It might be a little bit true, but well, I think it's here's what I think it is. You're also making coffee, you know, and you can use coffee beans to really mask a lot of smells. Yeah. Not, not at the catnip cafe. Where the idea, the, the suggestion of beans is perplexing. Yeah, we'll get. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's not what it's about. It's about cats. I also just want to quickly introduce another special guest. That's very appropriately joining for this. Show us your teeth, punk. Show us your teeth in your claws. He's really sleepy. He does have really big teeth. My cats aren't allowed in here because they're really distracting. Yeah, he will be probably pretty distracting. So. But a catnip, a catnip cafe, a cat cafe. They're not all the catnip cafe, although they will be in my mind forever. I will say they're pretty fun. But it's real hit or miss. I would say one of the ones I went to, pretty good. One of the ones I went to, less good. It really depends on the quality of the cats. In this one, these cats were really like sitting on laps and being really friendly. You know, because they, and this is, this is good. And this is except for one. We'll go there. They're very big on, which is good that you need to like, you can't just like grab the cats, you know, like you have to let the cats come to you. You can't terrorize the cats in the, in the cat cafe. And some cats are kind of like not wanting to hang out with you. Well, they should get another job. Yeah. They're being paid to be there. You're in the wrong business is what I say to that cat. Yeah. You know what this movie reminded me of so much are all the books that I've been reading. I've been reading so many books by Lori Gilmore. I'm sure that's her real name. Must be. Yes. I've read a few. She has written books such as the pumpkin spice cafe. Oh, yes. Cinnamon bun bookstore, the Christmas tree farm, the strawberry patch pancake cows, the gingerbread bakery. So these books, I like, I just consume them. They're this movie plus like very explicit sex. So like, hmm. It's shocking. Yeah. I was going to say, I love it. Yeah. It's great. It's like if they made a home, Mark movie, like really fucking horny and explicit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like small. It's all in a small town. They should do that. What's stopping them? Yeah. Well, I think I saw that g rating and I went, okay, people need this. People people want this. I think that I feel like Hallmark could pivot if they wanted to like look at the success of heated rivalry. Like we want yearning. We want romance like real romance. Romance. Romance. We want romance. If you will. We want some real romance. Romance. And one kiss, I don't know, you guys, I just feel like they could do more. Well, Henley, that kiss felt real. I think you recall. Oh, actually, you know what? I actually cried. I cried like a few times watching this. I almost cried and I feel like you, I know where you cried because I almost did too. I almost like sent, I sent like a, I took a selfie of myself crying and I looked so ugly that I didn't send it to you guys. Yeah. Sometimes like, this would have been funny, but I'm so ugly. I can't. I have to delete it away. Oh God, I'm so ugly. I have to delete this photo. I'm so ugly. I can't send this crying selfie. Wait, I'm way too ugly to send this. Oh, well quickly before we get way into it, is Christmas everyone's favorite holiday? Yes or no? I think it might be. I think it might be. Yeah. You are wearing a Santa blazer and a big wreath on your head. It's true. I think I got my wreath because making my head itch like. Oh, no, I did not anticipate that. It's also giving like Jesus crown of thorns. You know, it's tough. Well, for a lot of people, Christmas does give Jesus. Oh, well, yeah, right, of course, for a lot of people. Not all of them. Not all of them. There's a significant number of people who associate Christmas with Jesus Christ. A significant number. But again, not all of them. Paul, why do you like Christmas? Tell us, you know, it's it is the it's the coziness of it. It's the honestly, the thing for me is like the the lighting of Christmas is unmatched. You you just cannot. Nobody beats it. And it's it's really it makes me so happy. Like I put my Christmas lights up on the house and we put our tree up early because I was going to be gone for the first half of the month. And so I wanted like as much as I could have. And when I came back from the road and it was night and the lights were on and the tree was lit up, it made me so it just gets right into my heart. I love it so much. Yeah, it is. Real. It's so nice. I have my my tree on a timer. Yes. And this morning I woke up earlier than I normally the trees on like before I come out of the bedroom, but today I had to get up early to go to work early. I come do this and I was up before the tree and I as I was at my desk getting as I was at my desk before the tree getting ready next to the tree and the clock came and it turned on. I was I was I truly was like like I like my heart fluttered like that it came to life and it was like, oh, it's almost like you were like, Jesus, give me a sign. Give me a sign. No, Jesus is not with Christmas. Everything. I wait, Paul, behind you right now, though, currently, is that real? Those candles? Yeah. Yes. It's gorgeous. Thank you. I rushed to make this happen. It's really like a little late to the stream. Really worth it. Absolutely beautiful. I'm very much in the spirit and a little elf dropped off some booze for me and I'm having some egg and all commenced spiking. Wait, that's maple syrup, Paul. There we go. What is it? I thought it was alcohol. Let's see what happens. There is alcohol, but that's maple syrup. I was wondering why it was shaped like a maple syrup bottle. There is alcohol in that bottle, though. That's going to be crazy. I'll see you on the other side again. Yeah, I want to see what this is going to be like. OK, so the reason. No difference. It just is. You got it. You have I think you have to put more in. You got to do more. So that. More. The elf, the elf, I don't know who they are, brought you the ingredients for a whisker sour. So cute. Which is bourbon and maple syrup and and some lemons and some cinnamon, which is what I'm drinking. I grabbed the wrong bottle. You know what, though? Honestly, they look basically exactly the same. And so I actually I do. They look exactly the same. Wait, I'm confused. Do you have maple syrup? Just eggnog and maple syrup. I'm drinking eggnog and maple syrup as I do every Christmas. That's my tradition. So festive. I love it. Yeah, it's it's very it's not just for pancakes. Why not put it in your sweetened drinks? Yeah. Um, what are everyone's thoughts on eggnog? On spikes. You know what? I've never had it before. I've never had it before. No. Wow. What? I don't know why. I haven't had it for the first time last night and they loved it. I was very excited to see that. Wow. It's specific, but it's it is. I really like it this time of year, like one time. I get really excited to have it like one time. And then I'm sort of like, I did it. Yeah. I mean, it's like full of protein. So it's kind of like it's so good. It's actually not healthy to not drink it. Like after the gym, you're just like pounding eggnog. I'll drink it during a workout. Oh, you got to replenish the protein. The protein. Absolutely. I have a cream. Squeeze bottle with eggnog. Wow. OK, so how does everyone else feel about Christmas? I was I was really thinking about that. And I think my favorite holiday changes, depending on when I have the energy to like get really into it, like some years it can be Halloween. And if I have a lot of like free time in October, I can go all out for Halloween. I can have a great time. But if I'm like stressed in any month leading up to the holiday, it's not going to be my favorite holiday that that year, unfortunately. It's always changing. Love that. But I'm doing I'm I am very Christmasy this year. And I'm having a great time. Yeah, it's nice to hear. Yeah. Halloween is my vice president of holidays. Oh, it's got to be in the conversation. Sure. You're speaker of the house. Yeah, there you go. That's a question. It's a great question. St. Patty's Day. You know what? St. Patty's Day to be speaker of the house. Is it? St. Patrick's Day, yeah. Next in line is succession. Are you sure this wasn't burp? This syrup is making me slur. I really I really got so you're going to be totally fine. Like you are fine. But I I experienced such a fear when I saw you starting to pour that maple syrup into your cup. I really was like, not like I want I but you're fine. But I really that really freaked me out. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cause such a stress. I didn't mean to. Time. I didn't mean to. That was on me. Anyway, I love Christmas. I love Christmas for the vibes. I love it for the vibes. Yeah. Speaking of vibes, can you show us a little bit more of what you're wearing? Just a little bit more of what you're wearing? No, I can't. I can't. It is a full robe of cats. Just cat faces. Incredible. It's a fleece robe with pink ruffles and cats all over and I did not make it. This was a gift and they didn't even make it for me. It was my boss, who is a wonderful person, a friend of hers. It's an archival trashy laundry piece and found it was like, do you want this? And she was like, no, but I know this is like literally made for someone I know. And gave it to me. Wow. That's so special. Incredible kindness and truly it's like the spirit of the season. You know, spirit of the season and it's it's it's like it's 100 percent perfect. It looks like I thought you I assumed you made it because it's so specific to you. I know it's pretty pretty wild stuff. Yeah, so pretty wild stuff. Life can really surprise you. Wow. All right, are we ready to get into this movie? Do we want to watch a trailer? I mean, yeah. By all means. Yeah, it's only it's only 30 seconds. So well, the movie itself is only like 82 minutes, which is another thing you got to love about these movies. Yes, I was really laughing, imagining this movie being two and a half hours long. Just like what if Hallmark just at some point did like a Scorsese length Hallmark movie, be really funny. They can make it fucking. They can make it horny. Just put an hour of sex in there. And then we're done. It's a perfect movie. I know it's perfect. There's got to be some Hallmark actors who have the chemistry that could support this. You know, this is another fascinating thing. Sorry, we do need to get into me. I got to watch a trailer, but this is something I'm really fascinated by about the Hallmark conglomerate that it's like it's the same rotation of stars that just like hair up differently with each other. It's like really fascinating. It's like a rep company. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Fascinating. And it's like, if you get in with that, I mean, congratulations. I love that there's it's like an ecosystem for these actors. And, you know, I think new people can get in there, but it's like it's nice. It's almost like soaps in a way. I would say, yeah, it's like soap. There's room for people and then you can stay in that world and you can always have a job and it's like it's a great thing. And I bet they have a lot of fun. It's like a predictable income. The hours are great. Yeah, exactly. And the thing I learned from Tim, my husband, one of his like people and his like priest, I don't know, I don't know, he has like a priest. Proud. He's a priest club. I don't know. Priest group. Prist group. Was was telling him that him and his wife go to these Hallmark conventions. They're huge Hallmark movie fans. Of course, there's a convention and they like world of it. Do a convention circuit and they're fans. They're fans who will go to these conventions. You meet the actors like. It's a specific fame is really fascinating to me. The world. Yeah. Wow. And I'm sure that the the parasociality of it is very intense. And also confusing because like, who are these people actually at the end of the day? Tell me what? Well, I mean, like you're getting just like the Hallmark person. Like you mean like all actors? No, but I mean people really. Show me something real. If you are an actor and you're in a gazillion Hallmark movies and all the Hallmark movies are very specific and very similar and very much the same. If you're having a parasocial relationship with that person, I'm just saying it could get like a little complicated. People probably think they're like remarkably wholesome. And you know what? I wonder if they kind of contractually have to be like. A little Christian. Oh, I feel like it might be right. No idea. You know what? A lot of things are. But it does feel like it's like if you're a Hallmark movie star, you can't be seen, you know, making a muck. Oh, right. Because Christianity and capitalism, but there's the prosperity gospels and they can just say, we make all the money we want. And God loves us for it. Paul, that that's your pit in your heart. You can't be seen making a muck. You can't. If you're at the supermarket, if you're at the library, you can't. You can't be seen making a muck there. I don't think they can. I bet they can't. They're about the really, really strict life for the Hallmark actors. Neither a muck or a really strict contract. Cost. Yeah. Let's watch this trailer. It's like Disney kids, you know? Yeah, exactly. Hallmark adults. Oh, my God. OK, let's take a look. Oh, look at that. No. Oh, my God. Welcome to the Catnip Cafe. Hi. The Catnip Cafe has a new partner. I want to sell. Now he has three weeks to sell her on keeping it. That's all we got. That and cute cats to disarm her. Are you wearing a onesie? I didn't believe it. You signed up for Catnip Christmas and it's meow time. You will see the error of your ways in selling the cafe. I didn't anticipate getting so attached, but it's hard. Now too. Christmas at the Catnip Cafe on Hallmark Channel. Perfect trailer. Short and sweet. Love it. Short and sweet. It's all you need. I feel like I get it. I feel like I get it. Yeah. Should we, before we get into it, take a little peek at how much money we have raised. Yes. Oh, my goodness. You guys have already raised fifteen hundred dollars. Oh, wow. We've got a goal of five thousand. We're going to keep checking in throughout the movie. See if we can get there. We're off to a really great start. So congratulations, everybody. It's a really great start. Thank you all very much. Wow, you wow. 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What's about to happen? It really gave you the feeling of well, of how else could they open this? How? What choice did they have? Of course, this is how it should open. Yes, it was great. I will say they did show a kitten playing with tinsel, which is really dangerous. So that was the one moment that I was like, don't do that. Obviously, the cat was supervised. But to other people, just don't do that because it's really they'll eat it and it fucks them up. So other than that, that was really good. Shout out to the Devon Rex who we see in the intro, who we will see later in the movie. If you don't know what a Devon Rex is, there's one behind Sammy. They're really cute and really weird looking. And I was thrilled to see them. You guys know like the names of cat. Some of them, you know, the brands, you know, the brands, various make and models of cats. Exactly. We've been known to go to a cat show or two and or three. We've learned over the years. Some of that when I'm sure, Paul, I've been to three or four, more than two. Oh. I will say one thing I enjoyed in the movie is all of the covers of classic Christmas songs, so many, the one that opens the movie is like a jaunty country version of country Santa Claus has come into town and I was like, this is the right choice. I don't know where this is coming from, but this helps. I like it. So but then we immediately flash backwards 30 years ago. Yeah, 30 years ago. 30 years ago. I love to start at 30 years ago with no idea of where we're at in the present. Yeah, I really, really enjoy just being like 30 years ago. 30 years before these quads were playing on this tree. This happened. This happened. Yeah. Now I was we don't know who these two people are yet. It's a young girl and an older lady. And they're just getting ready for something. It's a very vague scene. It's so vague and really short. Really short. It establishes nothing. No, they're walking from presumably a car to the front door. You don't see either. There's honestly a lot that happens in this driveway specifically with her flashback. That's true. That's true. A lot of driveway memories, a lot of driveway memories. And we're walking in and we learn the girl's mom and dad are in London. She's going to spend Christmas here. The girl hears a cat meow says, did you hear that? The lady says, hear what? That's the end of the scene. Setting us up perfectly. Present day. It did give me the feeling that are there going to be magical cats in this? Now that would have been fun. See, I thought this too. I thought maybe a cat is going to be a matchmaker. There are a couple. There are a couple moments in this where you think, oh, this is significant. And it turns out it's not. Yeah, so don't ever get hung up on any of these moments. Yeah, you don't need to use critical thinking for this movie. Turn that off. Turn that right off and enjoy it and enjoy turning it off. OK, now we're in the present day. We meet obviously this is our heroine. She is being shown this beautiful condo. We know that she's a sort of type A person because she talks about seeing this apartment on her vision board. And we find out very quickly she runs a marketing company. Oh, my God, this is all Mar. She has been house hunting for three years. Yeah, because it has to be perfect. Yeah, I do want to say that this is propaganda for being a woman in the corporate world. I was a little bit triggered by the way that she was having this conversation on the phone as though as though there is no angst, as though there is no anxiety. She's in person with this real estate agent who we later learn is like her best friend. Yeah, but in this moment, I was like really, really strange dynamic between you and your real estate agent. Like what like it was not the relationship I'd seen in the world. Right. Well, they'd be sorry. They become best friends. I think I'm thinking of the next scene when she's like on the phone. Yeah, there's a lot of moments where she really shares details about her life in a way that is so assuming people want to hear it and so free of any. It takes so long for me to tell like a co-worker I've worked with for a year, like what I actually did on the weekend. You know what I mean when it's like, how was your weekend? And you go like, I was good. It was like, you know, pretty chill. How was your and she's like, it's the condom of my dreams and it's been on my vision board and I don't have enough for the down payment. And if I got it, she's just coming right out with it. She tells absolutely everybody she meets about this condo. Just like she just found the first thing she says to any new person she meets. It's like, hi, nice to meet you. I've found a condo. I don't have quite enough for the down payment. Being a condo too. It's like, obviously a con that's great. You're buying a condo. But even just being like, I found my dream home. I found my dream. Just like, well, I got the dream condo. Gotta get the condo. It felt like. Well, it just felt strange. When you say dream condo, it makes you think, perhaps there are other dream structures that she has. Exactly. It's too specific. Yeah. And the real estate agent, also the way they talk about money is very like, she's like, you work in marketing. You have money. You make a lot of money. And she's like, I know, I do make so much money. Whispering Hills money. And the real estate agent is like, we'll just get more than. Yeah. What is his relationship? I mean, we'll later learn best of friends. But I was like, OK. Very strange. Very strange. Well, we found out her name is Olivia. That went by very quickly, by the way. And I tried to just not rewind. I was under the gun time wise. I was like, they'll say it again. Olivia gets a text from her lawyer about her aunt's estate. Her aunt has passed away and has left. As she reads the text out loud, she finds out that she has been named in this estate and it turns out she's the half owner of a cat cafe in Felicity, New York. She's the half owner of the man named Ben King. She's thinking this is perfect. I'll sell this cat cafe to make money for my dream condo. Again, sorry. The speed at which she imagines this is going to turn into cash in hand is like yeah, really wild stuff. Yeah. I don't know much about how these things work, but that seems unreasonable. I am with her to a certain extent because you like trade them. How much money is the cat cafe really bringing in? Do you know what I mean? Right. Sure. In Felicity, New York. Is Felicity, New York a real place? Yes or no? I don't think so. No, I meant to. I meant to Google it. I did meet with them. We're getting like Hudson Valley vibes. Wait, did you goog? I didn't. I never googed. But I think one thing that's like tricky about this content is that unfortunately these like small towns are now really relecated for like the most wealthy enclaves available. Sure. Which actually is like doesn't equal community. So it's kind of like confusing to see these like like thriving small towns that are so like robust with community. It's like, I don't know, you guys. I don't know. I don't know. We're turning that part of our brain off. Sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Anyway, Felicity, New York. Imagine the world you most want to see. It lives in my it lives in my dreams. And I think that it's possible to create. Exactly. Yes. Dream small town. I dream of a small town. Yeah, I do. Then we see a vet. He is walking a dog. He's walking a person and a dog with a broken leg. Very cute dog out of the hospital. I bet this is Ben King is what I said to myself. Yeah, this is gotta be him. We find out very quickly this is Ben King. He walks this lady out. She promises to make some cookies that obviously everyone despises. And there's so many messed up animals in the waiting room. And the receptionist turns around like, Ben King, what's going on? You said you said no more messed up animals after 4 p.m. And he's like, I know, but I care so much. All these animals, they need me. Then some old lady comes in and is like, can you fix my gutters? And he's like, of course I can. So he cares too much about everything. This man needs boundaries. He does. His heart is too big. Giving away seemingly veterinary surgery for free veterinary care. Seems like a bad way to run a run a business. Yeah, he's he needs some boundaries. Especially if you're the only game in town. Yeah, I don't imagine there's another veterinarian in Felicity, New York. Yeah, probably not. And there are a lot of pets. The freaking pet per capita here is unbelievable. Every single person has a pet. And yet we will find out they're desperately trying to get people to adopt these. Because of the catnip cafe. Yeah, that's actually, you know what? That's true. It's kind of like an inside business. He's like, give more people cats. It gives my veterinarian business more business. Right. Very sinister. All right. So then Olivia, our friend, she's making Christmas decorations with the realtor. This is when we discovered that they are actually friends and a very adorable daughter who is painting things with them. A turtle. They all laugh. Now, OK, I had no idea what she said. They said, what are you making? And I said, she said, a drill. That would be funnier than turtle. That would be funnier. But I could not rewind it. So we learned that Olivia has missed the funeral of the cat cafe aunt because she works too much. She works too much. She was in Fiji at a conference. Yeah, a conference. You know how you're always at a conference in Fiji? Miss infusion, left and right. Yeah, conferences are killing there. Same. So now Victoria, she says she's going to go to Felicity. She's going to talk this Ben King into selling this property. Of course, he'll want to do it. And then she gets the dream condo. She's walking through Felicity. It's quaint. Nice town. She sees this hot dude through a window. It's Ben King. She's going to find out later. And then she gets assaulted by someone carrying a Christmas tree. Like Christmas tree is chubbed into her face. Like which would hurt? Those are so spiky. Oh my God. Yes. Every part of it is bad to hit you in the face. It's not a good part. It's not a good part. And she, Ben King sees and she sees him see, but she's still trying to play it really. Oh, me. She goes into the cat cafe. She's charmed by it. She looks around like this is very nice. This cafe is huge. It's gigantic. It really feels worth noting this is the biggest cafe you've ever seen. Yeah. Multiple stories, I think it like it's huge. I feel like there were stairs to more levels. Small town, biggest cafe you've ever seen. Well, the upstairs could have been just their offices, perhaps. Still short. Still pretty big. Still. The corporate suite. Yeah. She is taken by one of those real mean looking fancy cats. This is the person, my friend, the sort of mascot of the entire movie. Yeah. And you can see he's like a little grumpy, but she's like playing with him a little bit like I'm going to win you over. And it seems to be working a little bit. And with that, we're going to do a quick little check in because every time gingerbread does a growl here. Oh, very good. Very good. We are going to look and check how much money we've raised for neighbors for refugees. Fifteen sixty eight now. Should we do a dance break to to to motivate? Yeah, we should do a dance break. Please don't want one more dollar. I mean, come on. Yeah, we got a nice ball. Nice. Nice. OK, let's let's have a little dance break. Oh. Oh, what? This is like this one calls. Streamer has an incredible library of music. This one's called Acoustic Cinematic. Oh, yeah, every new world. That's this has to be getting us a dollar. Please, please. It's got to. God, it really goes on. Yeah, I mean, I think it's just a loop. Short loop. Short loop. OK, let's get back into it. Yes, this is gingerbread. This gingerbread, the cat gingerbread is a Persian cat. Just for anybody wondering. It's a gorgeous orange cat with a pushed in face. Yes, they got a squashed face flat face. It's really they can't do anything. They're really stupid. They can't eat. It's really like they can't eat. It's really hard for them. They're the they're like they're like more fucked up genetically than like a pug. Oh, that's why they can only eat out of a crystal goblet. Exactly. That's why they're very fancy. They need the food like literally it needs to be like in their face and in a way that's like like in a high pile. Yeah, they just eat it all. Imagine it's all it's flat. It's all flat. There's no. So anyway, bless them, bless those cats. They're gorgeous. Gingerbread is is is a really wonderful cat. A really special cat. Real star. Real star. Real star. Now, because Olivia is a high powered business lady, of course, she wants coffee. The waiter is like, what do you mean by beans? He doesn't even understand what she says. She orders a coffee. She orders coffee and he says, OK, great, I'll go get it. She says, wait, what beans do you use? And he goes beans. Like he does it. You know what? I'll take it. I'll grade tea. Bitch. She's going to make her a instant coffee. What does she think? What? It's a strange exchange. It's a rude. I will say at the cat cafe that we went to, not the best coffee. I feel like people aren't going there for the wild if that's what you're expecting. Yeah, if you're going there for like a specific reserve blend beans. I yeah, you're probably going to be disappointed. How often do you ever ask, look, granted, we live in LA. There's good coffee shops. But how often are you going in? Are you ordering a like if you go to a diner and you order a coffee, you're like, and sorry, what beans do you use? Just get the coffee. Yeah, you got to trust. Hey, we got to. I don't know why I'm doing that to her. She's just fine. It's rude. She's just fine. It's rude and she deserves it. What you're doing. She's rude. Her vibe is a little rude. This is Felicity, lady. Yeah, yeah, come on. Smell town. You're not in whispering heights. So she wants to meet the owner. That would be me says a voice. It's been King the hot vet from the window before the tree incident. Now, but while they're talking, she's like stroking another cat. I like that they did not make her hate cats, which easily be a thing that they would do in one of these. They're like, let's just spend with that nonsense. She likes cats. Exactly. She likes cats. Yeah. She explains to Ben about wanting to sell the cat cafe before she can do her full pitch. There's an interruption from a very beautiful white blue eyed cat on the floor. And I'm thinking this is a magical cat. We're going to see more of this. Great. We don't never see this again. This is just like a product placement for this cat. It is a stunning, really good looking, gorgeous. That's definitely a specific breed. That one's name I don't know, but that it was a gorgeous cat. Yeah. So as she's explaining, yeah, I want to sell this, get my dream condo. You can't like this, right? He he's holding a cat. He hands the cat off to someone else. Just a patron of patron in the cafe. Excuse me. Could you take this? This cat could go on the floor, right? Do I not know? They could go on the floor. Yeah, you could just set it down. You could put it on the floor. Yeah, the floor isn't like lava to catch. Presume. It's just a floor. So he doesn't want to sell what he the waiter comes back over as he hears her saying that she wants to sell the cat cafe and he puts a drink in front of Ben. But takes the other drink away. I love it. Like you get your back now. Incredible move. And again, she deserves it. Yeah. Yeah. So they're at an impasse and we fade to black. Yes. Commercial break. We fade back up. It is frustrating how kind of oblivious she is to why this man would want. Be rude. Yeah. She's like, no, I she's like, you don't understand. I've never met you. I've never been here. I know nothing about this cafe. I but I want a condo. Condo. Did you hear me say the thing about how I found my dream condo? Because yeah, that should kind of clear things up for you. Right. Exactly. It's like, that's not a no. You see, this is a matter of urgency. Obviously, it is a funny. I do find that trope very amusing of somebody that just cannot conceive of somebody wanting something that they don't care about. Yeah, different from that. Look, we agree this place is a piece of shit. Right. Everybody's like, no, I don't understand. We agree. Anyone on earth would trade this for a condo. Right. This condo fuel for anybody. Condo fuel. All right. Victoria goes into her aunt's house and she's looking around and she's wistful. I think her name is Olivia. Olivia. Yeah, I had I got a little confused there. Olivia Victoria. There's the same vibe of name for sure. This is before I heard it again. And I took a guess at Victoria. You heard of the really close Victoria. Really, really close guess. So she's looking all around and she has a flashback. Guess what? The people from the very beginning, that was Olivia and her aunt Esther, the dead cat cafe lady, they are untangling Christmas lights. There's the magic of Christmas is happening. Olivia is very wistful thinking about this. The phone rings, the lawyers quit calling to explain that she does not have any, you know, simple way to get the cat cafe sold in time to buy her dream condo. And she says, all right, I got to figure out a way to do this so I can get my dream condo and, you know, the game is afoot. The game is afoot. Because there's a there's a developer that wants the land. Yes. Yes. Yes. There's a developer ready to buy. But she's got to get her co-owner to sell. Ben King, and she has like three weeks, it seems. That's the timeline on condos, apparently. I guess the realtor could her realtor friend could hold off that long before people are like, no, I have to buy the stream condo. It's my dream as well. Right. Back at the vets, Ben's assistant turns out as his sister. And she says, mom wants to know if you're bringing anyone home for Christmas. And Ben's last relationship ended, I think he said seven years ago. That's correct. Yes. Seven years ago since Amber. Abby, Abby, Abby. Again, really close, though. So close. A lot of the same letters in there. Later on, Ben gets home. He sees lights on in the dead aunt's house. He goes over, rings the doorbell. And guess who's there? It's Olivia, the high power business lady. Ben, they're talking about the Cat Cafe. He talks about the impact the cafe has on the community. Huge. Huge. It's huge. And this we've heard it time and time again. A community can't survive without its Cat Cafe. Yeah. That's the it's like, you know, in some places it's the barbershop where everybody goes to hang out and the diner, the local bar. In Felicity, it's the Cat Cafe. It's the Cat Cafe. He's just there because he needs the the famous Christmas binder for the Cat Cafe. I love this. This is when they do all their obsessed with this. Something else. This binder is stuffed to the gills. It is. It's all flyers and zero information. This binder pictures of cats. Paper clipped paper clipped in nothing written. It's it's this binder and it's treated like, well, this is the guidebook to Christmas. And it's like, this is the workings of a lunatic. It has no information. This is in seven. Yeah. It's just it's nuts. It's like the final destination, the most recent one, like that lady's like. Yes, yes, yes. Fact binder, but for Christmas at the Cat Cafe. Yeah. Victoria says, look, I tell you what, if you give me time, I will help you with this absolutely unmanageable binder. She really lights up because she's like, there's one thing I can do. Yes, throw an event. This is marketing. And this is my marketing. Yes. Now, if by the end of this time, I have convinced you to sell. This bargain is very weird. She's like, she says, she's like, I'll do I'll do all these events. Or she's like, you're going to need help. You're going to need help with these events. Yeah. And he's like, what's the catch? And she says, well, if I help you with these events, sell me the. Yeah, to sell. And he says, OK, deal because he's convinced. Well, if she spends three weeks at the cafe, she'll never want to sell. It's a very simple deal. You help me improve business, then I will sell it. So he says, all right, you got to work at the cafe. Then he tells Ben tells his sister, I'm counting on Olivia being charmed enough by the cafe not to sell. Later, Olivia's phone rings. It's the developer who wants the cafe. He's got a hard hat on and everything. He's ready to develop. He's he's like, I'm dying at the bit to develop. Oh, my God. So she says, don't worry, I'm going to wear this guy down and we'll be developing in no time. Olivia sees a kid petting a big fat cat and she has touched. There's like a nerdy little kid with glasses. Some lady is showing Ben a picture of a cute dog and tells him, you know, you should adopt this dog. He's not ready. Olivia shows up. She's nixing a lot of the famous events at the cat cafe. This is this meeting. This, by the way, if they do these things every single year, why do they need a binder? Great question. You know what the binder kind of reminded me of? It kind of reminded me of like the house in the haunting of Hill House, where it was just like the workings of a mad woman that like cannot finish. It's like I keep having to add a room out of wing. The binder is not done. The binder is not done. More to the binder. More to the binder. So, you know, this business woman, Olivia, she's so logical. She's so rational. She's assuming, of course, we're only picking one event from this binder. If you're really going to invest and throw a successful event, you need planning, you need time for RCPPs, you need to create a menu, you need a vibe, you need a whole thing, and he's saying the first event is tonight. We're doing all these events. She, what? How could you possibly? This is how events work, I should know. And that's what she agreed to. This is how we do things at the cat cafe. And the very first event, of course, is the puppet show. This is where this is where the movie I was like, oh, no, this is losing me right now. This is really losing me. I was hooked. I was hooked. Yeah, this is where I doubled down. I locked right in. I locked right in. You locked in. Before we get to the puppet show, Olivia goes to a tree farm first and has another ant cat flashback. Yes. She's remembering. She just has a pleasant flashback about. Just a nice, yeah, remembering. She's trees. She asks, so the tree farm, she picks out a tree. She asks, do you deliver the trees? And then this woman, big smile, nods. They can't give this lady a line. You know what I mean? Give her a line. I love when you can tell that they're just like, don't speak. You can't speak. You're not there for a line. Come on. Like they pull, they truly, they pulled this background actor out of a lineup and like you stand here and you nod when she talks to you, but you don't say anything. Yeah. And you know, she was thrilled. She's like, oh, I'm going to get my own shot. You know, she did. And she did. She did. She did. But give her. Yes. Drives me crazy. Yes, we do. Or her line could have been. No. That would have been. That's what it is. They couldn't give her a line because they're like, what if she says no and she derails the entire thing? Because. She said what? I have to rewrite the whole script. Oh my God, be an account for that. No, we already filmed it. Now we have to take everything that follows. Oh my God, we feel like backwards. We already feel that part. Fuck. Here's my like central problem with home. Homeark movies after scene one. Is this character? Is this character? It's just why I'm ready to write them all off. Experiences a completely frictionless existence. Having that's the point of the movie. Outside of the catnip cafe. The catnip cafe is the one point of friction in her life. It is the one obstacle in her life. Obviously, she has to afford this condo. But like besides that, like every other interaction, every other facet, everything else in her life is just like smooth sailing. She's competent. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. She's the friction. That's the thing. She's her own friction. So everywhere she goes, people are just doing their thing like, yeah, sure. Of course we can do that for you because we're nice people and we're simple folk. And then she's creating the one complicating things. Oh, she's in a she's in a battle with herself. She doesn't realize. Whoa, it's basically one one battle after another. Kind of kind of. So now it's the first night of the cafe Christmas festivities. And only four people have shown up for the puppet show. Two ladies knitting. Two ladies knitting. I think one child. One child. Yeah, mostly adults. Yeah. Certainly majority adults, Hallmark adults. Now, because Aunt Kat is dead, Olivia is forced to participate in the puppet show. She has to be the co-puppeteer. Ben is a terrible puppeteer. I mean, there are times where he is talking and the puppet is not moving. It's this is bad and they do this every year. He's really doing voices, though. He is really doing voices. David Kattenborough. Yeah. David Kattenborough. David Kattenborough. David Kattenborough. Now that's where we learn that she an important personality trait of Olivia's is that she can't ad lib. She can't ad lib. She can't ad lib. She doesn't understand why Ben is doing a different voice for the puppet. She doesn't get any of this. This is beyond her. What is happening? She is forced into, you know, coming up with lines. There's no script. They are romantic comedy bickering in the puppet blind. The puppet show is two minutes long. It's so short. That's the whole script. So short and long enough, though, that the one child left. Yeah. The old one child in the audience decided not for me. Left in the middle. Teller. Olivia says, OK, I see what happened here. There was not enough marketing for this and my whole thing is marketing. I know what happened here. I'm going to market the shit out of the story time event that is coming up. Then there's a very weird scene where a lady comes up to Ben. Oh, my God. And I guess is flirting with him. It's really an interesting. So I learned something. About this and this is like a cameo of another Hallmark adult. And so she's referencing previous Hallmark holiday movies, but not knowing that. It's the craziest scene you could ever imagine. Sammy, I am so glad you provided that context because I thought it felt as if I was missing something because this was one of those where it does just like fade into black as the scene is ending in a way that I was like, what? Like it was so bizarre. We never see her again. Sammy, how did you discover this? It's in the IMDB trivia. Wow. Was it also in the IMDB trivia that the actor playing Ben, his name is Paul Campbell and his dad is Bruce Campbell, just a man named Bruce Campbell. Oh, different Bruce Campbell. I was googling him. I was googling him and it was like parents, Bruce Campbell. And I was like, oh, my God, that's crazy. And then I did a little more. I was like, just a guy named Bruce. That's different. That's very different. Bruce, who's his dad? Yeah, this is I wish I had dug more into this. I'm very curious about the Hallmark metaverse. Like I want to know more. That was like an Avengers moment. That just happened. That went over all of our heads. I mean, it was still even knowing nothing. Probably one of my favorite moments of the movie because of how absurd and strange it was. She's talking about firemen and having a fireman at home and having a cat at home. And the conversation makes almost no sense at all. It really doesn't. It's really, yep, it makes no sense at all. And he is humoring her like she is an insane person that he's afraid of. He is. He is reading to us that she is this lady is right. And I'm in danger. Which is like now I'm sort of like, Hallmark, why would you do her like that? Like, why are you making her look like a lunatic? Pretty weird. All right. So later Olivia is at the cafe. She's getting work done. She's putting up posters for the story. She's working all day. She is working. We get a montage of all the different seats in which she sits while she does this work. Yes. Oh, yes. This giant cafe. She's in so many places in this guy. And just real quick, somewhere in here. Oh. Gingerbread does growl. And that means that it's time to check where we're at. Let's take a look. Sound effects every time, because I swear it is different every time. It's just kind of a long clip. And so I'm playing in at different points. Oh, perfect. It's like 15 seconds of a cat growling. OK, I love this. Thank you because I was like, I'm hearing something different every time. And that makes sense. Yes, let's check in. OK, you guys, huge news. We are at two thousand five hundred and eighty and fifty four cents. Oh, thank you for those fifty four cents. So, like a thousand more dollars since last time. Wow, that's like a thousand like a thousand more. Oh, and everybody. OK, one more dance break. Yeah. This one's this one's chill. Mellow. This one's also peaceful. You're choosing really peaceful. Like well, this one is called daydreaming. So I guess I could have seen. Oh, here we go. Here's a little something. Oh, baby. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Little funky monkey. Anyway, thank you, everybody. Thank you, everybody. For your donations. Now we can continue. Well, now it's time for another cat back. This is when young Olivia discovers a strong, scrawny orange cat in a tree and she's taking care of it. This cat, the way this cat was discovered inside the tree, I just I just need. This is a little kitten and it's sitting in the middle of a very sparse, snowy tree. Yeah. And this it was just so obviously that like dry cotton, fluffy cotton that is made to look like snow in the middle. This cat was the driest cat I've ever seen in this snow. And it just really stuck out to me that this cat was just like sitting on a blanket and they were like, oh, my God, it must be so cold and wet. Get the kitten a little wet for the effect of the film. Come on. Now, Olivia's tree has been delivered. She knocks on Ben's door. She wants help decorating the tree. I can't keep stopping us. I was obsessed with this to knock on someone's door and go, got any extra Christmas decorations? I know the gall in this woman. Is this what it takes to be a business woman in the United States of America? You just assume someone will have Christmas decorations that you can use. They never give us a date. They never give us any act. We just know there's three weeks we're close to Christmas. I don't know what date it is. And I'll never know. Exactly. It took me a while to realize that like, wait, how close are we to actual Christmas? At one point, I think one of the fires says December 21st. But even that threw me because I was like, it's like, it's Christmas now. I was like, yeah, what? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm happy you set a date because I picked up on that and I was looking at all the posters. I was looking at the fliers. I was feeling like a little detective. I was like, what's the date? What's the date? And I wasn't seeing a single date a single time. They were not giving it to us. And I guess the townspeople just know like they just know when to show up. It's close enough that this man will have decorated his house for Christmas and also know that he's got all these extra ones lying around. The fact that he actually did have a ton of extra Christmas ornaments, that was a bold gambit that paid off. And the fact that she's like decorating the whole house is also confusing, because as far as I know, she's supposed to be packing it up so that they can sell it. She did say she was staying there to pack the house up and she's really settling in. She's planning to leave in a matter of weeks. Well, you can't have Christmas time without as we've mentioned the vibes. Magic of the Christmas decorations we saw in the flashback with your aunt. You know, they're in the house somewhere. Also, what about a target? Like just going to this man who you're like trying to freaking kick him out of his cat cafe, but it's because we're trying to flirt. We're trying to flirt. This is part of the winning him over. Can you help me out? He does talk about a tree without decorations being like in its birthday suit and I found that very off-putting. I don't like that. Oh, yeah, I feel like it's like a jokie back and forth moments that I was like, I don't I see what you're doing. I found it to be in poor taste. Yeah, I don't know. It was unseemly for Hallmark. If you're going to give me that, give me some sex. Exactly. He gives her like eight boxes of Christmas decorations. She says, oh, the tea waiter doesn't like me. And he goes, oh, because, you know, he doesn't want to lose his job. Ballad point. And also, Olivia, you know, this has been also has quite an extensive vinyl collection, Ben loves jazz and he wanted to build a music room for himself. But life got in the way. Can't find the time. And she says, I really get it. They're really bonding over like, you know, how sometimes you get busy. Do I ever? They're in love. They have decorated Olivia's tree and it's nice. Oh, it does have the ribbon thing that I'm not. I personally am not a big fan of like the big ribbons that go around the tree. I just I kind of don't get it, I guess. OK, listen to my mom. My mom is watching this right now. Mom, don't let this stop you. You keep doing it. Actually, actually, no, I really want to know. I want to know. I didn't realize. I'm sorry. You realize you were watching. What's your what's your what does your tree look like, Paul? How do you decorate your tree? We do lights and ornaments. Sure. That's it. That's good. That's it. On top. Star. Star. OK. So are they white lights or colored lights? They're colored lights, although we have Twinkly lights. That's the brand name and they're LED lights and you can make various patterns. But you go with you prefer the colored. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm going to do white just to see what it looks like. The ornaments are all different kinds of things. They're different kinds of things. Things from our travels. They are heirlooms. They are, you know, whatever. Yeah, great. Real tree, fake tree. We did a fake tree for the first time last year. Yeah, because we used to always get a real tree. And then there was one year we couldn't do it because of travel or something. And we realized, you know, what if we had the fake tree? We could put it up and not have to worry about it. Yeah, have it. And so we did research and we found one. It's the. Oh, what's the company? They're like the big awesome. Balsam, Balsam Hill, Balsam Hill. And we bought it. We bought it in January. Nice. That's how you do it. That's the trick. This is how you do it. We got a story deal on it. Yes, because it's an investment that tree. Yes, it is. They're pricing. But it's, you know, then you just have it. Absolutely. Yeah. And we were very. And so this year, because I was gone, we put it up before Thanksgiving. And I was so happy to have it. It really, it's wonderful. And now we can go out of town. We don't have to worry about it. You know, burning the fucking house. I don't know. I'm worried about that. Yeah, right now. We put in our time with the real tree. You know what I mean? And it was nice. Of course. Of course. Honestly, the sort of ritual of it all is a hassle. It is. I really wanted to tell you the real tree. It's a ritual, but it's a pain in the ass. It's pain in the ass. It's just and truly like all of January where like every time you drive up a street in Los Angeles, there's just tree corpses like everywhere. You know, yeah, yeah, yeah. They're all nude. They're all embarrassing, humiliating. Okay. Okay. Second question. And then we'll continue on. Paul, have you ever had a cat? Yeah, I have. I've had cats a few times in my life. Yeah. That's a really lackluster response. Did you hate them or? No, I did not hate them. I did not hate them. I loved my kitties. I loved my kitties. They were wonderful, but I've not always been in a position where I could have a pet. Yes. Got it. Well, so you know, a few steps above a real tree. Yeah. Life gets in the way. That's right. Doesn't it ever? Yeah. So wrapped up in business. You're telling me. So speaking of having pets, Ben used to have a dog named George Bailey. Every animal in this thing is named after some Christmas item. This is year round Christmas town, even though they don't explicitly acknowledge that, but all the animals are named after Christmas themed things. They are. You're right about that. That's true. He's like he's too busy to have another dog, but clearly he's too scared to feel again because his last relationship didn't work out. Exactly. Ben assures Olivia he will want to keep the catnip cafe. She has not won. He has not won. They're still at their impasse. Now it's time for Katma story hour. Simply everyone is showing up. There is a horde of people ready for Katma story hour. Ben's sister is there. Turns out she has a name and it's Meredith. She also has a husband and two children. She's got all kinds of stuff going on. He's a full character at this point. Yeah. Ben makes a little opening speech. Thanks for everybody being there. We see various people holding cats. Now I have to ask you cat people. One woman is holding a cat in her arms like a baby, but she's also sort of like jogging it like Jocelyn like a baby as well. Is that a thing that you do with cats? I think it depends on the cat. It depends. Most cats I would say probably not. Most cats don't like it. Cats would not like this. Yeah. Most of our cats don't really like being held generally. Kind of at all. Yeah. But if I'm holding them, I'd say about 50% of the time I'm rocking them. But now you're rocking them like this or are you like doing like little bounce? No, a little bounce like a little baby bounce. Okay. This seemed like an exclusive thing to babies. That's more for me than for them. Yes. Yes. Yes. Of course. They probably don't like it. So the baby will shut up. Yeah. OK, I want to interject here like just to give two examples of holding cats. One, when we lived in Los Angeles, we did not own a cat, but we lived in a little complex where there was a cat that belonged to my neighbor. Long story short, she just constantly let it out of the house. This cat was constantly coming into our house. It was in our house when we moved in, when we were moving our furniture and the cat was in our house. We were like, I guess this is our cat now. He's a really good cat. We just called a cat and Tim, who is allergic to cats and usually doesn't like cats, Tim would hold this huge fat cat, looked like bunk, like would hold this massive fat black cat like a baby, like what you're talking about. And he had a song for it. He would go, little fairy baby. Little fairy baby and the cat fucking loved it. And then when we had real live human children, Tim continued to do that with the human babies, little human baby, except she called them like different names, not human baby. But so that's one thing. And then another thing is that my family loves cats. Like I grew up with a gazillion cats. My dad loves everyone fucking loves cats in my family. And my grandfather, obsessed with cats, would hold them like that, like let them perch on his elbow and his arm, like up on his shoulder and kind of panther on a branch. Walk them around. They would sit up there. Yeah, they would sit up here like little kings, little kings. Yeah, like a little king. And survey their dominion and lots of pictures of my grandfather doing that. And then my dad would also do that with our cats, like put them up on his. It's hard to explain if you're not looking at it, but you can see it. Yeah. So it's lovely. It's sweet. Some cats, they like, especially if you're down. Yeah. Well, if you're especially if you're signaling, you're the one in charge. Yeah. I'm not in charge. You're in charge. And if you get them as kittens and you and you start doing that too, when they're young, they're sort of like, oh, this is safe. This is this is too. Yes. That's sweet. I'm glad that your dad continued it. I will say this event. Was anyone expecting this event to be what it was? No, because I was floored when this reveal happened. Absolutely shocked. Because what what this is, what Catmiss story hour is. Everybody chooses a book and chooses a cat and then they read stories to the cats. Out loud, a bunch of people reading different books out in the same room. It's unbelievable. Like, are you trying to teach the cats how to read? You do this to teach small children how to read. Are you trying to teach the cats how to read? I was certain I would have been I would have been to a million dollars that this event was one lady reading a book while everybody sits with cats. Yeah, I would make a lot more sense. Everybody take your own book, go to your own corner with your own cat. And read out loud to the cat. This this prompts Olivia. This is maybe a nod to the idea that this is insane because Olivia says, wait, I have an idea. How about after you're done reading stories to the cats? We tell the stories of the individual cats and maybe that will help with the adoptions and everybody's like, huh, what a great idea. That wasn't even in the binder. Wait, maybe you can paint a picture of the cat. I'm like, how long is this going to take a long time to be here all night? Everyone can. Everyone has to paint a picture of the cat. They really thought, I guess the thing that was going to do it was, well, I guess if people come in here and they see a bunch of cats, they'll want to take one home with them. And that was not working. But they were saying, like, it's just a matter of time. So this is how we learn that the mean orange fancy cat is named Gingerbread. And he has been there forever because he's a very particular cat. Olivia reads to Gingerbread and this is not lost on Ben. He observes this and it stirs something in. Cat fat. Young Olivia is now with the scrawny orange kitty. She names her Noel. Like Christmas present day. Olivia is petting Gingerbread. This is a huge deal. Huge. And Olivia is on the phone with a realtor. The realtor is picking up on Olivia's affections for Ben. Olivia swears there's nothing there. The next event, the mistletoe market. We're looking around. There's all different stalls and stuff like that. They're selling various things. Still trying to get these cats adopted. We are all these vendors coming from and what do they have to do with the cafe? So this is a small town, right? And basically all these people from this very small town where there's probably one row of stores, they're saying, let's set up a booth of all of our stores even closer together. Right. Yeah, we love that. You could walk up and down the block and do this or we could each bring five things from our businesses and sell them across from each other. I also I just like when she explained this to her, the realtor, I loved how she the realtor was like, what's next for you? And she just goes mistletoe. And the realtor goes, I love mistletoe. And it's like, what? You don't know. You don't know what that means. What are you talking about? That doesn't mean anything. And I think in Hallmark parlance, this means romance. Romance. Romance. Romance. So romance is in the air because the thing that happens with the mistletoe market is they have strategically placed mistletoe's above everyone. And if you get caught under a mistletoe, the townspeople will point at you and yell mistletoe. And then you either have to kiss whoever is next to you or you have to sing a Christmas carol. This one gentleman is caught and wears mistletoe. And then he looks around and there's a lady next to him. He doesn't know what to do. So he starts singing Deck the Halls and he picks an unfortunate key, I have to say because it like he cannot nail that ending. It's very high. So the little nerd boy is with the fat cat again. He is Josh. He's in foster care. He can't adopt snowball whom he loves and snowball loves Josh because he is not adopted himself. It takes too long. And by the time he gets adopted, snowball could be gone or whatever. So it's very tragic. This is where we see the flaw in the cat cafe being sold. So Olivia, she's like having a realization. This is a very sad thing. Then Ben and Olivia get caught on the mistletoe. There's a moment between them. Then Ben starts singing Joy to the world. Not yet, guys. Not yet. Not yet. The developer shows up. He's coming to the Christmas party. Ben says, oh, you're buying local. Real huge jib on this developer. Wow. I'm surprised to see you buying local. A developer would never. A developer would never. Amazon only. Never. It's all right. Never. Meredith and her husband show up. They invite Olivia to dinner. Ben and Olivia are later at Ben's place and they're making a they're they're collabing on a dish that they're going to bring to the dinner. And it's some sort of semi exotic thing. And so the story behind it is Olivia's parents were nomads. They traveled all over the place. They didn't like to be set tied down to any place. Her mom is a photographer. Her dad worked in finance. Classic nomads. I was very confused by that. I was like, do you mean like. I could do finance from anywhere. Is that like in quarter X quarter vibes? Like drugs. Anyone so I could take a picture. I could do finance. And we had we had no homecoming at my mom was a photographer. My dad worked in finance. And we moved all over as though to signal like, don't worry, I'm rich. Not rich, not whispering Hills Ridge. I know. But she the only place that ever felt really like home to her was Aunt Cat's house down the street. They go to dinner. The exotic dish is a hit. Meredith and the husband say the Ben Olivia should team up more often. You know what I'm saying? This lipsets Ben so much that he like gets up and changes seats. He's like, oh, so embarrassed that he just like moves to a different seat. I'm not. He moved away from Olivia to sit by himself on a separate couch. Am I not going to do that? I'm getting away. I'm not even teaming up in this part of the room. Then, you know, the husband's like, does anybody want some more wine? And Meredith says not for me. Olivia knows what's up immediately. That's right. Meredith is pregnant again. Ben takes this news strangely. He takes him a moment to be happy about it. He does a lot of lip acting in this moment. He goes like, oh, my God. His lips were moving. We're moving. Really clocked it. Really clocked those lips. Oh, my God. Ben and Olivia are walking home. Olivia notices you had some lip movements going on. What was that all about? He says one of my favorite lines from the movie, Twilight, which is when someone does a really obvious thing and the character responds, oh, you caught that, did you? This happens in Twilight when Jacob is talking about the quiet ones. Yeah. And Bella says, what was that? You were talking about and he goes, you caught that. Don't you think the thing that was obvious? And she says, you had a bit of reaction. He says, you caught that, did you? Yes, I did. Yes, I caught the really obvious thing that happened. Then they have the kid conversation, which is time for that. You don't see in a lot of romantic comedies, but I guess because it's Hallmark, this is maybe this is a thing that people need in these stories. Yeah, I feel like it's like what we got to make sure we're all on board with the Christian ideal of a family. Like it did if it did feel a little bit like that. You know, like obviously I want to be a father. You want to be a mother. Otherwise we can't possibly have romance here. Yeah. And good news. They both do. Yeah. They both have reasons for why it hasn't happened yet. And then time for a cat back. Olivia can't adopt the cat, Noel, because her parents move too much because of photography and finance. So Aunt Cat takes the cat and it's this is news like the like the aunt realizing like what I well, I suppose I guess I could take the cat. I suppose I could. Changes her life. Changes her whole fucking life. It changes her life. Huge. Now, Olivia admits to the realtor friend that she has a crush on Ben. Yes, you got me. Are you happy? But how could it ever work out? Realtor says you'll find a way. So Olivia happens upon Ben. He's doing some construction project. She says I'll help you out. And together they make some boards. Yeah. The reveal of what he made was so funny. Like I was like, oh, what's this going to be? It's just three boards. And they're like, OK, well, that's all done. I haven't tried to do that for a year. He was like, he was like, you're reminded me, I need to do something for myself. And this is it. And she was like, that's that's it. Let me stay in them for you. Boards up. Ben gets a call. It's never done for this guy. He has to go because a dog encountered a skunk. And as he says, there goes my whole day. This is not a veterinary problem. It's not. This is a pet haver problem. Correct. He does not need to be involved in this much less his entire day. Yeah. Yeah. This man needs boundaries. He needs to say no. And I think it's Meredith's dog, right? No, Meredith is just there because she works at the veterinary. Oh, Meredith was the one who made the call. But Meredith should also say this isn't a veterinary problem and you need to take some tomatoes to go home and deal with it. You're going to have a bad day, but that's not my problem. These people are taking advantage of Ben in a way that I couldn't even have imagined. So now, of course, it's catnip pajama party movie night. Everyone's showing up in their PJs. They're getting ready to watch the movie. Abby is there, which is such a cat saves Christmas, which looks like the absolute shittiest movie. Let it be real. Like they showed like the first frames of it. And I was like, is this real? I want to see this. This is absolutely what Hallmark could show, which is a little thing they had their animators make in like 10 minutes. Now, Abby is there. Abby is Ben's ex. They realized they were better off as friends than as lovers. She's also the one who is telling Ben at the other normal cafe. You should adopt a dog and everything. So she's met Olivia and all that. And she's telling him, Ben, you like you deserve to be happy. You have all people you should go after Olivia. This is great. Every single cat has a Christmas theme name. Saskatchewan saves Christmas begins. It's obviously a rousing success. Olivia and Ben are cleaning up after the movie. People are cheering. Absolutely the best Katmous pajama movie party we've ever had. This event starts and I was like, I did. I turned it on. I was like, now this event, like I'd go to this. This is this seems really fun. And as I was saying it to him, I looked and Bertie was on his lap, maybe it was on my lap. We were watching a movie and I was like, I was going to say this. This is Kat pajama movie party happens. This is near night life. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So the end thing. What would you like to do it somewhere else with cats you don't know? Honestly, yes. Right now, air mystery around you with unfamiliar cats. That's fun. I mean, it'd be fun to be in a big room. Of course, with strangers. So Olivia and Ben are cleaning up after movie night. Ben says he never got with anyone after Abby because it's a small town and what are you going to do? This is like flawed logic to me. He says a pretty smooth line where he says eligible women don't just show up out of the blue except for sometimes they do. Yeah, but I was like, I mean, I don't know, you guys, if you heard that one, that would you feel like good about that? Obviously in the movie you're supposed to, but for me, seven years, like no other encounter that would be a little bit like your flag, red flag for me. This is because he cares so much about the town and Lee. The biggest red flag for me in this one would be that he has half of his onesie tied around his waist. I really hated it. I kind of like that. I was really gross. No, I hated it. I like it. I hated it to each his own. We find out Olivia used to be married. I loved this. Me too. A divorcee. Choose a divorcee. All of them, they really just had a relationship of passion and passion fades. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. But he does say he goes. He says she's a little passionate. We both think passion is pretty good, right? I agree, both of us. Passion is pretty fucking awesome. We're talking about the same thing when we say passion, right? Passion, passion. Then Olivia at some point says the word moi and then asks if she speaks French. He doesn't ask if she speaks French. He declares you speak French. He says, he says, oh my god, you speak French. I've always wanted to go to Brussels. This blue Joel's mind. Joel was like, he couldn't shut up about it. The next five minutes of the movie, he was like, Brussels. They speak Flemish and Brussels. He couldn't handle it. He could not handle it. God, it was funny. You speak French. Moi. She says pretty close to France. I don't know. And yeah, to be like, God, I've always wanted to go to Brussels. Miss Piggy says moi. I don't think of her primarily as a French speaker. I don't think of her primarily as a French speaker. Right. Exactly. And she's got she says in response. And I'm a tip. And he goes, I'm a tip. He goes, I put to put. And it's like, that doesn't prove to me either of you know what the fuck. It's really exciting stuff. I really loved that a lot. Really loved speaking of what the fuck is going on. They fucking kiss. It happens. They're both wearing the exact same shade of dark gray Heather shirt. That's right. It was meant to be. Oh, then it's interrupted by the waiter saying gingerbread. No. And gingerbread is just entering the room. Nobody can deal with gingerbread because he's too grumpy. I think Oh, my God, is it time for another dance break? I think we might get a little growl in there. So let's take a look at where we're at. Oh, you guys, three thousand eight hundred thirty four dollars and twenty six cents. Yeah, we're getting pretty close. Oh, my God. Oh, I think that that calls for some dance pop. Oh, oh. Where am I? Wait, Paul, you're giving me the rocks. Very much how it feels to me. Yeah. What's this one called? Party night. What's it called? Dance pop party night. OK, let's get back. Let's get back into it. After that little party night break. Party night. It'll be pretty funny. Charlie X. This next album was called Party Night. Olivia picks up gingerbread. This is a huge deal. The gingerbread has allowed himself to be picked up. Well, and honestly, yes, like if you find yourself being able to like pet or pick up a cat that nobody is to speak for a cat, it's a huge deal. Yeah, there's nothing more satisfying than when somebody's pet takes a liking to you. And some and the person says, oh, she never likes anybody. Yeah, that is really. So what better experiences? Not there is not none. So she picks up gingerbread. Everybody's like, whoa. And then she's very coyly says, I'll bring him to the patio. Hey, play on words. The next day, the waiter tells Olivia they are getting more RSVPs than ever for the Christmas party. Then we learn that little nerd, Josh, is getting adopted finally. Very sweet moment. Now he's got snowball. I almost cried. I cried. I did almost cry. Yeah, I cried. No, unfortunately. And then she's like, she's clearly hearing that for the first time. And she's trying to keep from crying. It's I'll be honest. That took me out of it. I'm calling her mom. It's fair. You're like, no, really? Is this? It was so like, yeah, thanks. Mom. I was like. For the first time in front of people. This is like it feels it was like I didn't like it. You'd say that in private, little boy. Keep that in private. It took me out of it. Little Joshy, little Joshy and snowball finally united legally. Yeah. Ben is now decorating for this is the big adoption event. This closes out Christmas party. Catmits. He told Olivia, you've done enough. I'm going to do all the decorating. We forgot to mention when they were cooking together for the dinner party, she saw Ben has an espresso maker and she asked him, what kind of beans do you have? And he gave a good answer. Remember what it was, but it was the right answer. Oh, he needs some beans. He named beans and she was like, yes. And so then boarding after the kiss, he brought her espresso to her door and it was he brings her a literal cup of coffee and it's snowing outside that would have cooled down even in just a short walk. That's yeah, that's going to be cold. That's going to be a cold. Ice cold. But he told her, I'm going to decorate for the parties that you've done enough. I want to do my part. So he's doing all the decorating for the Christmas party on his own. She shows up and she's like, uh-uh, not my Saint Ben. A billion people show up with boxes of decorations. Very it's a wonderful lifestyle. They're going to help set up this other place for the cat adoption event. Yeah, I was very unclear as to why it couldn't just happen at the cafe. But I thought it was the cafe at first. And then I was like, well, wait, they haven't decorated already for Christmas. Also, what business is not already decorated for Christmas? Well, and also sorry, this woman earlier in the movie said that the place was decorated for Christmas. Like she did say that. That was a line that happened. Yeah. And then it's like, but you don't have a tree. But again, I'm like, is it what day is it? I don't know. You're not telling me. I think it's safe to assume it's after Thanksgiving. Twenty-third. I think it's like the 23rd. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, but there's somewhere else. There's somewhere else. Now, in the midst of this, Olivia gets a Christmas card. Is it from her dead aunt? Yes, it is. Yes. The lawyer sent it. It was in the aunt's paperwork that had taken too long to get to her. But yes, it's from she opens up the card from this dead lady and enclosed is a Polaroid of young Olivia with little Noel, the cat. This is when it all comes together. Olivia has the realization through things that Ben is saying. Noel was the reason for the cafe. This was why Aunt Kat gave her half the cafe. Olivia is the reason the cafe exists. Oh, my God. It's huge. Now, despite all this, Olivia still wants to sell this. She's like, oh, my God. Wow, this is huge, right? And they basically are saying they really have feelings for each other. And she's like, yeah, so I'm going to still sell the cafe. She's like. This is like the scrooge at the end after the last ghost was like, actually, I think I'm fine. But you know what? I will say I really appreciated this conversation. I thought it was quite realistic that she was like, well, yeah, it's been three weeks, so I'm actually not I need my condo and I have a whole life out West, wherever the fuck that is, California and California. And I like you and it's been I like have had a really good time. But I'm I always told you what my plan was. I've not deceived you. Yes. And to his credit, he says, yes, you did. I really thought I was going to change your mind. He said, I thought that kiss was real, which is like, well, what does that have to do with anything but OK. And and he doesn't like lash out and get all angry at her, which I was ready to see. I feel like in a lot of rom-coms, we see like some pretty toxic behavior that then is like, it's because they love each other. And I was appreciative that that was not what happened here. Yeah, it's always the frustrating thing for me in the in the rom-com is the big falling out after they get together and then together again. The third is a third act break up. And Lee knows we read a lot of these books. I agree that in this, it's more real and it's less. It's so much less shitty because it's more like, but I can't just turn on a dime. I had this whole. This is what I always told you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And this was like, I had my this is what I wanted to do with my life. And it's like, I can't just all of a sudden flip everything, like turn all that off. These things that I wanted for myself in three weeks. I was like, that's better than you lied to me or whatever. And then, you know, they have to win him over. It's like, they didn't like you because you can't lose something you never had. That's a title is a guy in 10 days. That's there. That's their third act break up. And I think about it. I think about that line a lot. You want to lose a guy in 10 days? Well, congratulations. You just lost him. He says, no, I didn't bet because he can't lose something you never had. It's also worth noting that in that movie, Kate Hudson, I think is like 22 years old. Yeah. And who's the guy? Is it Matthew McConaughey? And he's 51 in this movie. Yeah, I think so. But time is a plot circle. Not to be confused with my best friend's wedding in which Cameron Diaz is, I think, literally 21 in Dermott Mulroney, Dylan McDermott. Which one? Dermott Mulroney. His full name. It's Dermott Mulroney. It's Dermott Mulroney. My best friend's wedding. McRoney. Dermott McRoney. Dylan McRoney. I've seen how those guys in these a lot of times. I've seen how those guys in these a lot of times. Yeah. I, yeah, this is predictable. You knew she was going to say no. You have to have a third act break up. Well, she has to like be, she has to honor her original commitment. You have to see her honor her independence. It has to be her choice. She has to choose it for her and not for him. Yes. But then does she choose it for God? Well, I'd for God also. Because well, that's what we're giving. Yeah. To marry and procreate is for God. And we'll get, well, so let's continue on. But I do think perhaps, Paul, to your earlier point, there is a sort of a magical cat coming. OK, now this is great to hear because at this point, I have no more notes. Great, you guys, I haven't had notes since the sock puppet show. I was like, that's what I was like, no more notes for me. I've never taken any notes. I just live and breathe this movie. She knows it like the back of her hand. No, Emily, Emily can watch a movie and it's imprinted on her brain. It's true. If it's good, if it's good, it's in there. I envy that. I envy that. Paul, be honest. Did you finish the movie? I listened to the last 10 minutes. While creating one's one's Laurel crown. Perfect. That came out of a box. That was already a couple. Nice, nice. OK, well, we have a we have a break. If he does say a thing, which I did think was pretty not so, that he said, I thought that kiss was real. And it's like, well, it was, that has nothing to do with this. But he's upset and we get it. Annie tells her, you know what? You don't actually have to come to the party tomorrow. I've got it from here. I'll fulfill my end of the bargain. I'll sign the paperwork. You did everything you said you were going to do. And she says, you're right, I think that that's for the best. She leaves. And. The next day we see her driving to Buffalo, New York, an eight hour drive. I was like, my God, OK. Wait, I was confused about this, like how much time was spent in the car for her eight hours? She says I'm halfway to Buffalo. OK, four hours, which so four hours. Wait, do we know where Felicity New York is in relation to about eight hours from Buffalo? How do we? In any direction. Buffalo is so north is Felicity even more like where? Matter. Where does matter? What's New York? You're at our Buffalo to matter where you are. Hours from Buffalo. We are eight hours from Buffalo, New York. And she's on the phone with her best friend, the realtor, and she's telling her I left and she's the realtor saying, well, you should go to the party and she's saying he doesn't want me there. And she's saying, I'm sure that's not true. But Olivia has stopped at a gas station because she's just killing time before the airport, basically. Wait, first before when she's talking to her friend, her friend's like, you should go and talk to him and like she's like, I don't even know what I would say. I'm not a good ad libra. I can't ad lib. You know, I can't add which was established in the sock puppet show. Yes. And at one other moment, I believe, but I can't remember when, but she does bring it up a lot. This movie is using the whole buffalo. They're using it every. She's confusing ad lib with just talking. Yeah, yeah. She could talk. Just like say what you think. And now I can. The conversation we've had with her here to four has been written. She can't ad lib. She's at this gas station. OK, two moments actually that I'm now remembering I want to point out. When Josh gets adopted and they come into the catnip cafe and it's Josh and his mom and they say we want to see if Snowball's available for adoption because Josh has been adopted. This was moment number one where I realized how trained my brain is to horror movies where I was like, Snowball's dead. I was like, I'm so ready for like like a horrible reveal of like you're too late. There is no more snow. Like really shocked me that it went like the total opposite positive way. I was like not not prepared. That was that was moment one moment. Two is her stopping at this gas station. I was like, fuck, no, get out of there. I'm teaching in the middle of nowhere. Hell no, turn around. Turn around. This is really bad. Eight hours to wherever. That person is like, I don't think it's worth it. He's like, you've been to Felicity, New York. Don't go back. There is no Felicity, New York. You haven't been there at all. But she gets out of her car in the gas station and she walks into. There's like a mechanics garage attached and she walks into the garage because she's she's drawn in by the sound of music. She's hearing music come from the garage and from a gorgeous speaker that we get real good product placement for. And she walks in and the mechanic says, oh, the cashier's in there. She says, sorry, sorry. I came in from because of the music and then she sees he has a cat there and she says, oh, hi, kitty. And he says, yeah, that's my cat. I adopted it at this great little cafe about four hours away. That's my guy. And she starts crying. This is God. That's right. She starts crying. I can't believe it. And he just totally unperturbed by a woman walking into his garage and immediately bracing it here. So he just picks up a bunch of tissues and holds them out to her. She takes one and she says, thank you. Like this happens all the time. Merry Christmas. And we got we got to get a box of tissues in here because women keep coming in and crying. I do love a shop cat. Shop cat is great. He asks if she has a cat. And she says she says not yet. Not yet. Not yet. And she drives back to the Gagnam Cafe where we see, well, it's not the Gagnam Cafe. It's the other place, but it's the party. Sure. And it's in full swing and Ben is sad. He's at this party and he's sad. And he tells he's about to come into some money. So he tells his sister, I think we can hire another veterinarian. She's thrilled. She says, are you okay? And he says, yeah, I'm okay. And then the developer arrives and Ben comes up and he says, Olivia's not here. The developer says, I know I got her call, but hey, let's do it. Let's sign some paperwork and Ben's like, all right, my face is sealed. I'll sign it. A deal's a deal. A deal's a deal. He's a man of his word. Yeah. Sit down with this developer as they sit down to sign this paperwork. A little Devon Rex just jumps into this developers lab. A developers lab. This Devon Rex, God, Devon Rex's are so cute. They're very cute and very funny. Cute. They're really funny looking. Their fur is all like scraggly. They have huge ears and tiny little alien heads and their fur and the texture is like scraggly, like there's no other word for it. It's like, they're so cute. They're so cute. And this little Devon Rex kitten jumps in his lap and he in a great moment of comedy is like, is it going to attack me? I can't deal with this kitten. Never encountered a kitten before. What's a developer? Developers aren't going to. Yeah, doesn't know how I went to do. Yeah, man, like in his 60s, like what is this thing? And Ben signs, he signs the paperwork, hands up back over to the developer. And then Olivia walks in the door. She runs to Ben, Ben runs to her. She says, Ben, she sees the developer. She goes, oh, no, he says, it's OK. I signed it. Oh, no, you can't sign it. Ben, oh, God, I so much has become clear. I was always looking for a home. That's all I wanted. It wasn't about the condo. It was about a home. And I know now that I've found it here with the cat cafe. And and he says with me. And she says, yes. Yes. I should have included that. You too. I was going to say it. You cut me off. But yes, please let me finish with you. I was getting there. Obviously, I was getting there. And they don't kiss yet. No, they go to the developer because, oh, my God, we've got to stop this deal. And she goes to him and she says, I'm so sorry. Huge mistake. I actually this cafe is so important. It's important to me at some point to the community. I've made a huge mistake and I don't want to sell. And he says, OK, he says I came here to sign paperwork not to. What does he say? Not to like break, have a fight. I don't know. He's the nicest developer in the world. I think the cat has changed psychology. I don't want to fight. Who cares? I actually don't even care about that. Good. And he's like and actually like I'm not that serious about developing. I don't actually care. I do it as a hobby. It's not a money making venture for me. I'm not interested in that. I'm here to buy local and and just kind of hang out and he rips the contract in half. And he says, and while we're at it, I love this cat and my kids. I've really been wanting one and I'm going to adopt him. Yeah. The magic of the cat cafe. Power of cat cafe. Yeah. Don't sell it short. And the party ends. Everybody goes home. And I think now we're back at the actual cat cafe. I think we go back to the cat cafe. Yes. And we're looking over the big success of the evening and Olivia tells Ben it was a huge success. We have three applications to adopt, three foster applications and one adoption. And he says one adoption. She says me and gingerbread. It had to happen. Full circle had to happen. And he says. Great. I don't know what he says. He says this woman can be a mother. This proves to me. He's leaning in. He's leaning in for a kiss. He's leaning in. She's leaning in. We're leaning slow. We're leaning real slow and we hear. Gingerbread doesn't like them kissing. He doesn't. OK, let's take a look here. OK, we're at three thousand nine hundred and thirty four dollars and twenty six cents. This is really good, you guys. Thank you, everybody. Oh, my God. Wonderful. And I guess I'll say here now that this fundraiser will be open for the next week or so, I think until December 31st. So for anyone listening after the live show, we still have time to hit this goal. And I feel like we're really close. So we're going to get there. I feel very good about it. I feel like we're going to get there. Good work, everybody. Hold on. I just refreshed my page and I'm at four thousand two hundred twenty eight. Oh, my God. I'm not too proud. That demands a dance break. Oh, my page is ten thousand dollars. Oh, my God. I saved the best for last. We're doing feeding the ducks. If you remember from last time, this song is called feeding the ducks. I actually do not remember what it sounds like. But I remember it being a hit. Oh, yeah. Why is this called feeding the ducks? So calm. Oh, yeah. Oh, there we go. There's a little way. Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Linh Lin Vindux, I'm gonna be throwing that on. I have a couple final thoughts. Please. Okay, we haven't even got to the final kiss. They do kiss. They do kiss again. Oh, I'm so sorry. Yeah, they do kiss. That's fine, that's it. When did they kiss? Like right after that? I thought they were giving gingerbread the last word. No, they kiss. They kiss. I don't love this kiss. This kiss was strange to me. It didn't. You're right, I remember it. No, it's very light. It's very light. It's like a little light. It's very light and it's, and they go, then they pull back as if to like rub noses. Oh. But then it fades to black and that's, the movie ends so abruptly. That's just that. So like you get it, you got it. Anyway, that's the end of the movie. Final thoughts. Could she not have just sold her aunt's home to get the money for the condo? Or, that's a great question. Also, I don't think she was bequeathed to the home. Yeah, I don't think so. I don't think it was. So who was? Who was, yeah. I feel like there was a little line about it somewhere. There's like still a more, it's banks taking it. The banks taking it. They're just taking it. They didn't think that far ahead. Banks just taking it. I have this up too where it's like, why don't you sell your part of it to someone who wants to keep the cafe? Like, why don't you even ask? Is there someone in the town? Who would want to run with you? Yeah. We got three weeks to get this condo. It's about we need the condo now. But like, wouldn't you ask that though? Yeah, I mean, if she sold her interest, it still might not have made her whispering hills rich. Exactly. It may have needed to be in the entire. How much more did her down payment need to be 5% more? I swear when she first said it, 25% more is crazy. Oh, I thought it was 5% more too. I thought it was 25% or so. I thought she said 25%. I thought she said 25% too, but then later I thought it was 25% and I was like, which one? I thought that was implying it was 5% more than the normal 20%. That's what my brain did, but who knows? Look at you knowing percentages of down payment. Also the casual way they were discussing money, the casual way her best friend, her best friend, who knows her better than anyone else, who has her financial records, the way her best friend, who has children, she's a responsible person. Her best friend is saying to her, you can avoid this. Just do it. Just do it. Just do it. And the way that Olivia is responding, still all smiles, no hint of concern crossing her face, because the cafe hasn't come in yet and that's the only friction. She's still like, yeah, it's possible. You don't see a hint of her being like, I can't do it. You know? Yeah, no real stress. She doesn't want to do it, exactly. Anyway. The other thing was, it was wild to me to see a romantic, like a first kiss romantic scene where it doesn't go any further than a kiss. Yep. Very g-rated, g-rated. It was really wild that they just kissed one time. And go their separate ways. Right. Even if the only thing you see is the kiss, usually there's an implication that something else happens. It was so Christian. It was. They live 40 feet from each other. Like if that were me, I would have been like, I gotta go over there. Yeah, it's insane. It's like both are insane. I've been thinking about this all day long. They are two adults. I looked it up their ages. They're both in their mid 40s. These adults can go home to their homes down the street and fuck, what are we doing? Yeah. Wait, do you think that they're supposed to be in their mid 40s in the movie? I mean, they are in their mid 40s. There was a line where, when they're talking about having kids where I heard this too. Olivia is like, well, you're still young. And he's like, I don't feel young. And I looked it up then and I'm like, he's 46. That's what I did. I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, 46. That's definitely, mid 40s is definitely when you start to think I'm not young anymore. Right. And also like, I can't have kids now. And also, yeah, like, I'm so tired. Aaron Kaye, healthy actress, 45 years old. Yeah. They're gorgeous, but like, they're in their mid 40s. Nowadays. Nowadays. With science. With science. It's possible. It just does require more of a conversation. It absolutely does. You get medical stuff involved. And yeah, likely a lot of money. Okay. You guys, I just need to tell you, I've looked, I've Googled, and I should have done this before, but I've Googled Aaron Kaye Hill. When they're her, just, you know, standard Google page comes up, the movies that are coming up for me. S.P.P. A timeless Christmas. Autumn at Apple Hill. Love, fall and order. Christmas on Cherry Lane. With love, fall and order. Of Christmas. What is love, fall and order? Yeah, I wanna know what that one's about too. I wanna know too. I wanna play out a phrase, but I cannot, I cannot put it together. It's law and order, but just include fall. Last Vermont Christmas. Christmas bedtime stories. Deck the halls on Cherry Lane. Sleigh bells ring. Deck the halls on Cherry Lane. Christmas on the range. Christmas at sea. Now there. Oh, you know what? I saw the thumbnail for Christmas at sea and it definitely caught my eye. Big vessel in that one. A hometown Christmas. You might have to watch Christmas. Love on the road to Grand Ole Opry Christmas. Jesus Christ. Love on the road to the Grand Ole Opry Christmas. Those are two different movies. Okay. She was in the pursuit of happiness, that 2006 movie with Will Smith and Jaden Smith. She's also in the Beverly Hills Chihuahua franchise. Okay. Which now we're talking. I am interested. I knew her a little bit back in the day from the thrilling adventure hour. She's absolute sweetheart. And it was really fun to watch her in this movie. I thought she's just- Oh, that's fun. She was great. They're great. Everyone is really doing their jobs, which is another thing that is so relaxing about these movies and make them, even though it's silly and surface level, like it is quite enjoyable. Everyone is like- People are committed. Doing a good job. Nobody's walking through it. No, and I forgot to mention this. We do meet Meredith's husband. I don't know what his character's name is, at certain points in the film. Lost to time. Gorgeous man. I just felt the need to- This man was beautiful. I love him up too. He's a beautiful people. That's how I watch movies is I look everybody up on IMDb as I'm watching the movie. And it's like, who's this now? I gotta see everything. No, I do. I love to do it. Everyone's doing a great job. I loved it. I loved it. I loved it. I loved Christmas this year. I have the mental capacity to love Christmas this year. And- That beautiful stage. I would like to know, before we take off, it's December 22nd, which is really wild, that we're all the way here. Yeah. Before we get out of here, I would like to know what everyone's, if you have like a treasured Christmas tradition that you're looking forward to. Well, our tradition is to travel every year. We go to see Janie's mom in South Carolina. So that's where we always spend Christmas. And it really means a lot to me, especially like at the end of the year, to go to a place and just be about family and just not doing anything, just kind of taking things as they come. And we like watch movies every night and stuff like that. And it's really, I love it. Yeah. You flying into the Charleston airport? Oh, yes, indeed. Oh, great little tiny airport. Great airport, great airport. Love that for you. Really has a DeSanos pizza. Interesting. Now, I mean, I haven't been to the Charleston airport in many years, but that's- Yeah. That's really cool. It's really strange. Yeah, there's only two that I know of that one and the one here in LA. Yeah, I love DeSanos. Yeah, it's really good. Wood-fired pizza, baby. Yeah, and I love Charleston. Great city. Great town, great town. Something I always did as a kid was go and see a big action or fantasy movie on Christmas day. It was Lord of the Rings a lot. That those all came out around Christmas time. And this year, I think we're gonna be seeing Avatar. Fire and Ash? Fire and Ash. Oh, wow. A three and a half hour film that I'm half excited for, half dreading already. That's really long. As long as you get those reclined, oh my God, I'm not gonna get the reclined heated seats because we're seeing it in IMAX. Oh, God. Heated seats. That keeps me away from IMAX a lot of the time because I prefer the comfy seats to the- Paul, this is news to you? Paul, let me tell you, one Christmas I saw Ferrari by myself at an AMC that I had not been to before. And I didn't know about the heated seats and there was one on my seat and it was on and I didn't know. And so like halfway through the movie, I was like, something's really wrong. I'm like, I'm so hot. I'm so hot. I'm sweating. Like something is really wrong. They should tell you. They should tell you. They should have. They should tell you, but I love a heated seat and AMC signature recliners have heated seats, but they're not in the IMAX. When you know it's happening, it's better. It's when you know it's happening, it's better. Of course. That's like most things I think. In general. I wish that I had a Christmas tradition. I think I'm in the market for traditions. Like I'm open to ideas. Well, you're like, you can create them for your children because you have children. The thing that's tricky is that every Christmas is going to be different depending on whether Tim has to work or not. And also whether we're traveling or not. So this Christmas, Tim doesn't have to work, but we're getting on a very early stage. But we're getting on a very early morning flight to San Francisco first thing. Oh, wow. So my children, I think will experience Christmas on Christmas Eve. The morning of Christmas Eve, we're going to pretend it's Christmas. I mean, they'll know it's Christmas Eve. We can't fool them that much. They're old enough to have some kind of awareness. But Henley, you started chaos tree this year. And that's a... That's true. Chaos tree. That's a tradition. Chaos tree is a tradition now. And we do have some like, we have like a stupid advent calendar that's like really dumb, but... I don't think it's so dumb. It's just really dumb and stupid. It's like broken and like falling apart. Like it's like tree. It's supposed to be a tree. It's supposed to be like a big, beautiful advent tree. But immediately the second we bought it, it was just like disintegrating. But Tim like holds on to it because he's like, I'm not going to get a new one. So, so those are still like putting these things on the advent tree and the branch is just like falling off. So it's not like a doors one. It's not like you open up little doors. It's like a complex. It's a complex. It's a complex tree. It's a complicated tree. And the long story short, it's not meant for the long term, the long haul. So we'll have to figure out something new. We're workshopping it right now. Tim's going to have to look for one time. It's a weird time for our family because of like... Church. Church and then also birthday. It's my birthday. And then our like, trying to see both sides of the family and like figuring out the family stuff. Christmas can be a lot. But I did really enjoy decorating this year. And I did enjoy doing some paper crafts. I, you know what I fucking love? Emily, you've talked about this so much. And I just... Hakuugan? Yes. Hakuugan. Yeah. Like that's it for me. Yeah, Hakuugan is so good. The perfect Christmas tradition. It's so good. You're going to do something with that Hakuugan. I do love it. I love it so much. It feels so powerful. I've been saying to me, I've been saying to South, I've been saying, you guys have broken toys? Bring them to me. Bring me to broken toys. That's the thing about Hakuugan. You're like, once it's, once it's revved up, I'm like, what else can I do? Like I'm just looking to glue things. Can you fix that broke dick advent calendar? It's in the trash already. Like it's like we need something new. Oh yeah, okay. Fair enough. That's the spirit. That is the spirit, Paul. And that is where I'm living. I believe in the Hakuugan and I believe in Hallmark. I do too. I really do. I guess I do too. It got me. I cried. I cried. The other part in the movie that I cried, which I will admit to you guys is when the sister said she was having a third child. Interesting. I know. I said, don't tell your friends this. They're going to say, don't do it. Oh, Emily. Stop thinking those thoughts. See, look at both of them. They're not making eye contact with the camera. No, I was just going to say that I really laughed in that scene because of how- Because of the lips? Because of the lips and also because of how the delivery of it where she's like, no wine for me. No wine for me. It's like when you're like, you buy something new and you wear it and you're like, is everybody going to say it? I like my new thing. I guess the secrets. I guess the secrets out. I'm not drinking. Wait, what do you mean? But don't you have you had that experience though where you saw somebody decline alcohol and you realized, oh, shit, they're pregnant? Like they didn't make a big deal out of it. But you're like, this is somebody that normally would absolutely offer to drink. They would be drinking right now. They're like, no, I'm good. I fucking know what's going on over there. I know everything about you. It does feel so fun. It's like if you feel like you figured out the end of a detective story, you're like, oh my fucking God, I figured that out. One time I saw across a room, a couple talking to someone and they were clearly giving information to this other person. And then the other person had a very excited response. And then the woman put her hand on her belly. She was not showing at all. And I was like, she's fucking pregnant. I know. I know. Like also, some women do that. They were doing charades for you. If you see a woman ever touch her stomach. Exactly. If she's pregnant. Not happily. She wouldn't ever do that willingly. It's just not a thing that anyone does at all, unless you have a life. You only do it if you're trying to like, charades act out being very ill. That's the only other time you do it. But otherwise you see these pictures of women with their hand on their stomach. And so to say, you see a bum, it's a baby. It's on purpose. I did this on purpose. Otherwise I'm fit as hell. It's true. I noticed that and then I was like, I'm not gonna do that when I'm pregnant again. Like when I was pregnant with Silas. And then the second I was pregnant with May, I was putting all my hands on my stomach. I'm not gonna lie you guys. I put my hand on my stomach all the time. I do too. But in pictures though, are you like? No, probably not in pictures, but I like to rest my hand on my stomach sometimes. It's like a little rest. It's a pretty good level to have a hand rest. But honestly, Henley, I was gonna say, I do always find it funny when pregnant women really like frame the belly, but I'm trying to picture now a pregnant woman in photos with like her hands just by her side. I'm like, I'm really alarmed. It makes sense, really. I don't like it at all. Oh, it's weird. It's like you don't know what to do with your hands and back. It's like, you have them by your sides, or you like cross them over your belly. I'm not just fat right here. You know. Do you see the framing? I'm not just fat in this one spot. Yeah, this is the other option. Yeah. Emily, what about you? Do you have a tradition? Do I have a tradition? Our family always makes a delicious Cuban dinner on Christmas Eve, which you know I don't cook, but Joel has taken that upon himself. What? Very nice. Do for us. So we will do that, which I'm very excited about. Do you have a favorite dish? I mean, the whole plate is the dish. It's like you've gotta have some roasted pork, so good. Beans and rice and plantains, and like so much garlic, like so much garlic. And then we have my dad's grandmother's flan recipe, which I suppose I had to pick one. It would be that, and it is flan. Very good. I'm crying out. Do you speak French? Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. But the do, but the do. Oh, but the proof is that proves it. He does, he does. He does, he does. He's trying to be fluent. Let's go to Brussels. Ha ha ha. Oh, I just had the best time. I just had the best time. I just had the best time. Paul, thank you so much for joining us once again. It's so much fun. So much fun to see you guys. And I wanna say here at the end of the year, the three of you bring so much joy into my life all year long. I love the podcast. I'm a fan first. And thank you for doing what you do. And I know that it means a lot to a lot of people. And I'm one of them. So thank you so much. And thank you for letting me be a part of your world. It means a lot to me. Paul, thank you very much. It's really nice. It's really nice. It's really nice. So nice. It's really nice. It's really nice for you to say all those things. We really appreciate that. And we're really grateful. Thank you. Yeah, we truly. Sorry. I know. I know. She's like, not this. Take it back. Shut up, Paul. Shut up. No, but yeah. No, that we really, we feel the same way. And we're very lucky and we're very grateful. And it's a beautiful thing. God bless us, everyone. God bless us, everyone. At the Katnip Cafe and beyond. Woo! Hahaha. Katnip Cafe and beyond. Paul, do you have anything going on that you can tell our listeners about? Any fun? Please. Anything fun? I did my Christmas show, Varietopia, last night at Lodrum. And if you want to stream it, you can still stream it. It's available at varietopia.com. And you can find the stream there. It was a really fun show, great music and really silly comedy. We did some ridiculous stuff. And yeah, it was a really fun show. So if you want to see that, get in the holiday spirit. There's worse things you could do. Great. There's worse things you can do. You're going to want to see it. Varietopia is a very special thing you've got going, Paul. It's really great. It's very delightful. Thank you. What a treat. And are you freaking taken off to Charleston? Christmas Eve. Woo! Yeah, we don't usually leave it that late. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everybody, safe travels on all your holiday adventures. Be kind to yourselves. Have some fun. Just, you know. We love you. Just have a nice time. Just have a nice time is what I wish for you all. We love you all. So much. We love you. 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