#3345 Ladies of London S4E10: Fashion Victim

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So that's all the fun stuff. It's free. So today is Ladies of London Season 4 Episode 10. The end. It's called The Summer Showdown. Aw, so sad this show's over already. 10 episodes. I need more. It was so brilliant, so wonderful. There's something magical about a first season with a cast. It was great to witness it. I'm really sad that it's done. I thought this was a special thing that we got to have this spring. And I hope for people who didn't watch it that they take some time to binge it one of these days because it's a tremendous thing. I guess if you didn't watch it, you're probably not listening. But, you know, if for some reason you are listening and you haven't watched it, go watch it. It's so good. Tell your friends. Tell your neighbors. Okay. So Micah's walking down the street. She is wearing a marching band jacket thing because this Joshua guy loves the marching band theme. That's what he's into. I wore it for this year's Crappies. That was done by Joshua Kane. And everybody's wearing it. It's every outfit. He's putting it on. He's 106 trombones or whatever the fuck that is. Like he's out there and he's ready. 76 trombones. Yeah. I got it. Mm-hmm. Many trombones. Definitely playing. She is definitely giving some music man realness. But what I will say is like, I think Joshua Kane is so talented and the tailoring on his stuff is so impeccable. Didn't think this is a great look for Micah though. I don't know. I just, this one was like, this one didn't quite land for me for just like her. It looked too real. Yeah. I think it looked too real. I think the other versions of this we've seen him do on people have been, they look like an outfit, but Micah really fits the part. Like I can imagine with her baton in my face just being like overly cheery. Like, look at me batoning in your face. You just want to take that baton and smack her on the smacker with it. Get away with, get away, get away from me. So yeah. Baton lady. This is her big event, the art of showing up, which is funny because only two people from the cast showed up, but that's okay. Well, they hadn't taken the class yet. So which came first? Chicken or the egg? You do need to take the class to learn how to take the class, which is so ironic. Orgores just eating its own. How to take a class. Nobody showed up to the class about how to take a class. Oh, I think a lot of people need it. I totally would take this class, by the way. You know, we just spend a lot of time talking about Amanda Francis's manifestation class. This is sort of class I would want. Like when they show like a montage and a little bit about Micah going over all these tips, like if someone puts their hand over you, like over their hand when they shake your hand, you're saying that you own them and this stuff. I love all those like fun hacks to body language and stuff. I was like, I need to learn these things. I need to learn how to harness my body language into being a more effective communicator because I just think it's like so cool. I love this stuff. You're like, I really want people to understand when I own them. Yeah, I do. I saw one of us resting bitch face. I am looking for ways to actively combat against it. So I need to take the art of showing up. The art of not having. Hey, touch it'd be prettier if you smiled more. There's one for you. It's free. Love it. Love it. It's free for you, man. Good tip. So she's looking, she's looking good. She's going to her little event that she, I shouldn't say little event that sounds condescending. She's going to her event that she's throwing. And my favorite thing. My dumb, stupid hand shaking event. And she's like, yeah, this has been months and countless hours in the making. I mean, oh God, I feel nervous. I want to go. Well, it's the art of showing up. So professionally, socially, how to walk into a room, how to make friends, how to connect with people, how to present yourself in any situation. It's the most confident version of yourself. Here's my first tip. Just walk in and go, oh, hi. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. Excuse me. Sorry, sorry. Hi. I'm going to hand everyone here a pink walkie-talkie and you have to give it to one other person that you want to become best friends with whether they like it or not. Okay. That's the first step. This episode is big for her because we get to see her husband, Marco, a lot. Now, Marco doesn't show up on the show. He's always gone. He's like that guy on Rhode Island who's like gone for three out of four weeks or whatever. And we're like, he's cheating. Is he in the mafia? Like what's his deal? I don't think that after seeing him. This is, I got the least amount of creep meter going off with this guy than any other guy. This guy just seems so enamored with his wife. He just sits there and smiles at her with his little like conservative congressman hair. He's just like, God, I love you. Love you, darling. I'm obsessed with you and your manners. Please put me to bed, mummy with another sleep with another tale about manners. Yeah. He got a good edit. He seemed really like very proud of Micah Micah, a missy shows up. By the way, I love that. Also his name is Marco. They're like, we need one more person whose name starts with an M on the show. So missy shows up and she's like, to be honest, I never heard of anything as a coach. I mean, I think that like my manners are really good. And then we see a footage of her like yelling, tell the truth. And then her boob coming out and then her just like shoving food into her mouth or something like that or her foot or I don't know what it is. She's just doing all sorts of stuff. A little boob never killed anyone. Come on, guys. So now missy and Mark sit together because they're the only ones who showed up like you mentioned before. And they're, you know, he's like, you look adorable. Absolutely riveting. I fell down walking in here. I fell down stumbling over your beauty. I just wish you had more Florida leaves so I could bid on you at Christie's. Oh, I'm not feeling savage at all today. That was terrible. I'm feeling so fucking awful. I have not felt this bad since. Ha ha. As long as I can remember. Oh my God, what happened? What happened, babe? Oh, it doesn't matter. I don't want to ruin Micah's day. Please, please stop asking me. Tell me, please tell me, please tell me. Come on, Mark, please tell me, please. No, I couldn't do it. I couldn't. I couldn't. Is it about Marko? Is it about Marko? No, please don't make me speak about it, please. You know what? I can't believe that I've allowed someone to affect me. I just feel like a fucking idiot. That's how I'm here. No, no, no. You're not an idiot. No, no, it's not okay what she said to you. It's not okay. It's not your fault. It's not your fault. Don't make me discuss it. I beg of you. So then we go to Marko's house and her boys are playing soccer outside and they sit down and they're like, how was your trip? So how was my trip? How did you hear about my trip? What did you guys hear about it? That you hated it and you had a panic attack. She's like, yeah, I did hate it and I did have a panic attack. Oh my God, you guys, we're so good. I will not repeat what Jacques said when I told him what happened. It was some, okay, I'll tell you a little bit. It was like, so what? I was like, what? Huh? He was so defensive of me and so disappointed in the whole situation. He did not want me hanging out with any of these people ever again. Really? That was your remark to that because when she said he was livid. I won't even repeat what he said. I was like, I'll bet it was a lot of the F word. I'm not a fuck. This experience has 100% clouded his view of London. Yes, I'm sure he's like, oh, this tremendous beautiful, you know what? Let's go back to Glendale. You know what? London's nice and everything, but I don't know about these British people. Glendale is a better place for me. Get me to the Americana. You know what I'd like? I'd like to go take me to the auto strip on brand. I want to see people street racing by the Kia dealership. That's better. That's where I got to be. So she's like, guys, if you like London, then maybe I can figure out a way for like, maybe you to stay here because I'm really only here for this reality show. Let's face it. I keep talking about this. I'm a massive career. I haven't London, but if you look on something called IMDB, you'll find out that that's bullshit. Okay. But if you want me to find you excuses, like an I can find you excuses and then your dad might pay the rent for this place that we're not going to have much longer than three days. So. Yeah. You know, I may have to come back here to work on something. So, um, you know, if you guys want to come back, I can maybe find you guys like a crew. I'm a cool mom. I'm a cool step mom to like a crew. Yeah. A crew. Like, cause I'll have access to plenty of teenagers who I'll assemble and make them your friends. That sounds realistic. Show us more of your model friends and we'll show we'll come back. Okay. We'll do that. Everything's more fun with friends. Well, unless you have friends like mine, which case, a totally not more fun. I'm all right guys. A panic attack. Right. So when we go back to the event. Yeah. Mark is still feeling things. My whole life trying to protect myself because I was definitely the only person who was obviously gay in a school of about 1000 boys. I could feel this immense shame for so long that I just decided that I wasn't going to tolerate it anymore and that I was only going to allow myself to be close to people that I really trusted. But sometimes then you just think, wow, maybe the moment you go out at that circle of trust, everyone just really does think you're fucking weird. Missy. No. You're not weird. Stop saying you're weird. That's not true. You're one of us and you are the most beautiful human being inside out. You're so loved and you're no different from anyone else and it brings my heart. It brings my heart. You're a beautiful human being. Don't let it affect you by love, please. And he's like, when he starts crying, I was cracking up. This was my favorite thing. Mark Francis crying, killed me because his Botox doesn't really let him move his face and he's just like, it was like trying to get out of him. He was like trying to transform into something and it like wasn't taking. It was like, let me transform you. I'm like, no. I mean, I 100% think that his emotional reaction was real. I'm actually not doubting any of his emotional reaction. I think 100% this was triggering to him for like it does like hit on the specific sort of bullying that I gave little boy receives, especially one who's often photographed as a sailor. But I do also think like two things can be true. He can be traumatized and he could and it could be bringing up bad memories and he could be a funny writer. Yeah. So he's like, oh God, why am I crying? So he has to get up and go out and she of course follows him and he's like, I don't want to do this to my my God, fuck me. It's not okay. It's not okay. So she follows him out and then they. I don't want to make a scene. I don't want to make a scene everyone. It's like, okay, okay. You know, you're not making a scene. No, it's fine. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a crappins commercial. This is Pete and Abby from the therapy crouch. We're currently sponsored by two. 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I hold it together. I'm mortified for Micah. I'm mortified for Missy. I'm mortified for myself because this isn't me. I'm also mortified because I'm going to an American teaching us about etiquette, but that's a whole separate issue. So Micah comes out and they right when they're announcing her, Mark and Missy run back in to catch it. They're like, maybe this isn't the greatest etiquette being late. Gosh. So they're like, well, please welcome the Queen of etiquette by the Daily Mail. Okay. Thank you, Daily Mail. I have been obligated to now do this performance in bullet points. So thank you. So this is not my first time being on stage. I'm actually when I was little, I was in the Sarasota Sailor Circus and that is where I learned how to perform. A fellow sailor, I bow down to you, ma'am. Why are they burying this at the end of the season? And we see this footage or I'm sorry, a photo of Micah in like a trapeze thing, like acrobatic. They're standing in like a pyramid style, but like floating. And it's like she's in the local Sarasota Circus. And that's how I learned to be on stage. The best thing I ever did as a child because it taught me stage presence. Like, okay, well, you know, maybe stop swallowing the lemons you're juggling. Guys, I want to teach you about etiquette. Hold on. I'm going to swallow the sword. Okay. Guys, I want to teach you about how you should enter a room. One option that I like to do is via Canon. So if you excuse me, I'm just going to climb in this thing. Boom. I'm ready. Okay, it was missing, but I'm in the parking lot. I'm in the parking lot. Can we, we'll try that again. So my tip is when you land from being shot out of a cannon, you stand up and you say, well, hello, I have arrived. Now who wants to get in and try it out themselves? Mark. Now, when you are driving someone somewhere, the best thing that you can do is open their door for them, wait for them to get out, then wait for the next one of them to get out. And then the next one, and then the next one, and then the next one. And it's a clown car. It's a clown car guys. You're going to be at that door for a long time. So just, you know, just bring a book or something. So then she starts giving her tips like you are a brand. You are telling people what you think you are, like who they think you are and how you should present yourself. And when you make an entrance room, remember to hold things in your left hand. Your right hand is ready to hold a cane and welcome in the elephants. Okay everyone, that's how you do it. Micah has this infectious positive energy which is brilliant and she knows what she's doing. Micah owns etiquette clearly. Question. Has Micah always been part of our cast? Have we filmed with her before? We have. Have I met her? I have. Does she play the trombone? Are you sure? I'm pretty sure I've never interacted with Micah ever before. If you're shaking hands and you know sometimes you put one hand over the other hand, that's a power play. That means I'm in charge of you. I own you. Okay. And when you're in public air kisses is what we do. Your lips do not touch the skin of the other person. Okay. Or the tiger in certain cases. Smiling is the international symbol of approachability. I highly recommend that if you see, for instance, okay, put yourself in this position. You are swinging 30 feet above the air, above a net, and you see another trapeze artist reaching out his hands to you. You have to smile so he'll want to grab you and not let you plummet to your death. Okay. Can we all try that now? We lost a lot of girls that way. Yeah. Back in Sarasota. It was rough. Okay. So remember to smile, but be careful because eyes pinched, lips pinched. Look at this. Who's going to invite me to a party? In acrobatics, we call that flying bitch face. Yeah. Wow. This was my first etiquette class. Well, outside of America and I did it. I did it. Oh, my husband's here. He's my biggest cheerleader. I feel really supported. He's like, oh, I called that was amazing. Would it be bad etiquette to announce I've got a halfy? No, cause you asked first. I'm not going to be a bad etiquette. I'm not going to be a bad etiquette. I'm not going to be a bad etiquette. No, cause you asked first. Um, so they meet and they're all again, it's great. It was a good class. It actually legitimately was a good class. And now we go to Mr. Polter and Latte and Joshua and her, um, because they're going to have a date. And so Latte is like, she's just started ordering all the food. She's like, we're going to have the clotted cream and the fish and chips and the scones as well as the steak. And we'll also get some tomatoes and some tartar. What would you like Joshua? He's like, okay. Are you sure? Do you would you like a diet cola? Okay. He would like a steak free to please. Is there anything else who likes it? He's like, he like does not want to order anything. He doesn't even goes eating for three. I see. Joshua hates ordering at restaurants. I always auto for him because I know, I know him so well, like I know what he wants. I guess it's a bit masculine of me. Look at me masculine, naughty, butch, butch lesbian. Lots of years, what they sometimes call me and you know, he likes it. I like it. It works. Okay. It works. He says squeezing in a date night pre show. It's also pretty unheard of, you know, I know, but that's, that's what you've got to do when you're trying to keep a marriage going. Don't you darling? You know what I mean? What trying to keep it going. What are you implying there that it's not going? Oh, I'm just saying you need to make a little effort, you know, going to dinner with your pregnant wife before you abandon her and her baby. It's okay. I'm just building cribs by myself and crying into pillows. Oh, of course you are. I guess that's just marriage. Yes. This is it. Just sobbing in closets. Well, how's our baby boy doing today? Oh, well, you know, he's kicking quite a bit lately, darling. He's probably trying to get out to catch the bus for work. You're not making him order his own baby food, are you? No, no, no. I'm going to order it for him. Don't you worry. Oh, good. You know, it looks like at the moment it's just like we're at the precipice point where the brand's just gone over 10 years old and I've got to keep pushing the brand forward and I've got to keep this like driving the ship forward. I've been a drive the ship. Drive the ship forward. Yes, yes. Well, sometimes it's hard not to be number one, especially when it's with your husband. I'm smiling, smiling through the pain right now. It's very difficult being a number two, especially when you're not feeling well and someone says God, I've really got to go number two. You remember where you are on that totem pole. It's hard being number two, especially when your husband's favorite item at McDonald's is number three. It's very hard to juggle. Well, someone asked me the other day if I was going to take a paternity leave. I said, what? What's that? What is that? They said, you know, sometimes dads take a month off when the baby's born. I said, a month off work. Are you kidding me? Good God. No, no. So I have a wife there. The wife is there to take care of the child. I mean, surely, surely your wife knows how to use an L wrench. Am I right? A paternity leave. I mean, father leave. Possibly every morning that is for work. Oh, the perks of being closeted traditionalists. Oh, my father was a workaholic. Joshua was a workaholic. So I know what it brings, which is dad not really being around very much, but it's okay because Joshua's boss rides in really hard. His boss, all snow knows him. It's fine. Everything's fine. It's fine. I was just mentally thinking I was just mentally thinking. I was just mentally thinking I won't work weekends for that period or something. I mean, that was my offer. That's paternity leave for me Saturday, Sunday, possibly in the morning. Now, 15 minutes. Come on. So, but a baby is for life, darling, not just for the weekends. Right. Right. He's like, well, I'm just working seven days a week at the moment. I'm barely seeing you other than at night, which is great. You really do look good in nighttime lighting. I had asked myself, do I want to see this baby in the daytime? Probably not. It's got our skin. It's a nighttime baby. I'll see you then. You must understand, yes, a baby is a commitment for life, but we all know the ancient text that was put on me means that I'm actually dead Monday through Friday. So, yes, if I see the baby all in the weekends, it's truly only when I'm alive. So it is a baby for life. Listen here, Wednesday, Adams. I expect you there every single day. He's like, oh, God, really burned me with that one. So now we go to a cemetery with Missy and she's bringing a big bouquet of flowers to her brother and she's talking about how it's been a long time since she's been to her brother's grave and it's hard to go. And then something shocking happens. Her brother is there. He's like, hey, it's me. I'm just kidding. Kimmy shows up. Kimmy is like, yeah. Kimmy is like, oh, hey, it's me and sensitive Kimmy here to talk about your brother. I'm so glad I could be here to support you. I'm sorry. Is there a bar here? Is there a bar? Oh, God, what a boring location. All these people just lying here on the dirt. Come on. Can we get some block to block to liven this place up? Come on. Oh, I haven't laid down this much since I was married. Just because you're dead doesn't mean you have to be a bunch of what blankets. Am I right? Come on. Laugh from beyond the grave. I mean, whatever happened to the world where a skeleton just danced around to find music. Oh my God. Look at this gravestone here. This gravestone here says, may she rest in peace. She was a wonderful woman who was taken from us too soon. I mean, complaining. It's a beautiful day. Why do I have to hear that? Can I just get through my bottle of wine? Oh my God. This one says RIP. Mine better say R-I-B and B2B. Rest in block to block. Am I right? Mine better say BYOB. Laugh. Oh, Kimmy, what are you doing? Oh, I'm just, just, just draping a omelette bavours on top of this tombstone. Everyone needs it. Listen, I know your brother was a big deal because he's the only person with an actual headshot on his grave, which is pretty impressive. What a handsome, handsome man. God, good looking. Please don't tell me he was a vegan. I never would have fucked him if so. You know what? Kimmy reminds me of my brother. Kimmy really has like my brother's strength and this inner survival instinct and like whatever happens, like we get up, we keep going, we are strong. I need friendship, like Kimmy in my life. Yes, yeah. In some strange way. I think this is kind of come full circle. I feel like this has brought us closer. We realize that Margot is a fucking bitch. And I showed you my soft side, which actually doesn't even really exist. I just sort of made you get used to me and you show me yours, which was really boring. So now we're in trouble. People are describing it slightly abrasive, but in reality, I'm the most loyal friend. You'll be like, I've got your back through a second, second, second, I tell you. Now we can only hope he's in a much better place now. Okay. I mean, God, is it really though? Oh my God, he really did have a nice home. I looked it up. What if he's going to have a space in heaven? Really? I'm sorry. Is that insensitive? He's probably looking down saying, Missy, who's your hot friend? I would have flirted with him. God, he's good looking. Was I cool? As long as he's not haunting Margot's flat, I'm sure he's in a better place, right? Just automatically. So now we go to a place called the lounge. It's a, it's a somber moment. It's gray out and Mark rides. He sits down and he says, I received a message from Margot. It arrived by pigeon. It was disgusting. I said, hi, Mark. I just finished talking with Micah and we see Micah and Margot. We have a flashback to last week when they were like hammering out this text message that Margot wanted to start by saying, look, okay, I know you're a fucking queen, but we can still talk about things like, whoa, whoa, whoa, Margot. It says, um, now realize that my words are deeply hurtful in a way that I wouldn't have meant. So, uh, he's like, okay, so I'm meeting her. Let's see what she's got. And so Margot comes and she's like, oh my God, I'm actually like really nervous to talk. Nervous. Why ever so? Well, yeah, I just, I mean, I don't know. I have like feelings, I have feelings. So like when I look at it in honesty, like, I mean, okay, I haven't been kind and I've been a good friend and whatever emotions and reactiveness I've had, it's my responsibility to take. So I'll do that eventually. I haven't quite felt the way you made me feel at longleat probably since school. That attitude took me right back to my 16 year old self who was suicidal because of being completely shunned by society. I'm not prepared to have that off thrown back in my face by someone who clearly has narcissistic tendencies and bad fashion. And guess what? You're right. It is kind of freaky. It's freaky that I'll never be able to introduce the person I want to spend the rest of my life with to my parents. I've chosen to live my truth rather than to perpetuate a lie. Good luck coming back to that load. I just dropped on you hard. She's like, um, well, I mean, I feel bad that he went to a place like that. I mean, God, I'm not here to fight. I'm here to take responsibility for my part. God, I'm not responsible for you being a weirdo little gay kid in school. Sorry. I apologize for every bully in school who called you weirdo weirdo. I mean, what am I supposed to say to that? Jesus. Well, I'm not ready to be close to people who are not truthful, who are playing an act. I just can't do that. I can't go back there. I can't go back there. Did I mention boarding school was full of actors? I'm traumatized by them. I will never be around them again. Please, please don't look at me. Please. Well, I didn't know any of that about you, Mark. Well, because you never made an effort, which is fine. I don't expect it. I just don't expect bullshit either. I trust. So she's like, wow, he's really doubling down. He does not want to clear the air or move on. Wow. Look, I think that he is right to be upset, but he's also been mean to Margo. I mean, come on. I think that she, if she had a brain, which she doesn't, she could have just said, Mark, I totally hear where you're coming from. I'm so sorry that I made you feel that way. I just want to point out that the reason I was upset was because when I hear you laughing behind my back and mocking my clothes, I feel like a child in school who's being taunted and bullying. And that's what hurt me. And we have that in common. Something I think would have been really good. It actually would have been a really nice moment between the two of them. Yes. But instead she's like, I mean, I just think it's like funny in that every time I see her like, like so big. I'm like so fake. And I mean, the reason I use the word freak, I wasn't even talking about you. Was your behavior your freaky behavior? I mean, you're like cycling through all these different personalities and then you're like, you came and like touched me and you're like, try to be fortacious. I mean, I was just so... And he's like... This is flirtatious. This is kind of his crying face but laughing. I was dying. I think Margot was doing actually a decent job up to this point. But then the... I'm not saying you're a freak. I'm just saying you're behaving like a freak. freak, because you have, you're like, cuckoo cuckoo for cocoa puffs, all these different personalities, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So he's like, oh, she's handsome, Mark is like, yet again, here we go, the narcissism, it must be because everybody's obsessed with me. That's what she's thinking. She goes, I think Mark wants to fuck. I mean, maybe he's just like having some really conflicting emotions because he's sexually attracted to me. Oh God. He goes, she's a lunatic. She's actually a lunatic. She's actually crazy. Yikes, he's like, I tried to be flirtatious, and she's like, that is hilarious. And she goes, but you were like, darling. And then you were like, touching and you thought I was flirting with you. Oh God. Okay, I think we've, this conversation has definitely run its course. So if you think that I'm flirting with you, we're not gonna get anywhere, sweetie. Now that is that, enjoy your afternoon. Flip my sunglasses. He walks off and then she just is sitting there and goes, well, I guess I'll pay for these sparkling waters. She's so unhappy. So did you knock out your headphones again? Yes, I'm really being, I'm really waving my arms a lot today. I keep just knocking my headphones. How unsyvillage of you. Now it's time to go to the Joshua Kane fashion show. So he's like, he's like sewing stuff up and everything. And Ladi is like, the purpose of this fashion show is really to show the world the bullshit that he's saying he needs to do instead of taking care of our baby. So then you can all judge for yourselves. We're going to take tailoring to another level. We're going to sew sewing, which is actually amazing. We're going to sew on an elevator. We are literally going to a new level. We will be tailoring from hot air balloons from now on. Just you watch. So he's getting people ready and getting everybody dressed and stuff. And then we go to people getting ready. Emma's getting glam on and Mark comes in and he goes, ooh, what a tart. Shall I tell me what I've missed? I'm too wealthy to listen to this banter. Just get to it. She's like, oh, Margot. I thought for the sake of Martha, who so adores her, I'll go and meet her and give her a chance just to be real. Fundamentally, I made a huge mistake because I just explained to her how she made me feel. And she responded by telling me that it long leaped. I was touching her and flirting with her and made her feel uncomfortable. I don't understand. You know, Margot is not Mark's type. Like, I can guarantee it. Mark's like, I mean, at that point, I just had to leave because like she clearly isn't interested in listening to a single word. Like she's not, she's not there. Well, I wonder if she needs to have some space in time, ideally in America and never come back, perhaps. It's just all been such a black cloud of bullshit. So now we go to Martha and Kimmy and they'll car and they're heading over to the show. And Martha has like a heart hat that goes over her forehead. It's like a little heart. And she's like, yeah, this is Victoria Grant, famous British hat maker and friend of Martha and Kimmy. Kimmy's like, oh God, well, she also made my hat. Oh, that's really Victoria Grande. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. So how do we feel about today, madam? Like you think Margot is gonna be polite today or she gonna be her usual kind of psycho self? Well, I don't know if she's even coming. We had a bit of a text exchange and then she blocked me. Oh God, she's like an anchor. She's just dragging everything down all the time. Yes, well, I do feel the same way, but I also do feel like I need to talk to her. Commercials, here comes one right now. You may not know that aside from having the most iconic fleet in ocean travel, Cunard's Four Queens also host a remarkable cast of extraordinary people. So after a morning spent relaxing, there are talks, classes, perhaps even lunch by the pool with the leading lights of literature, culture, fashion and theatre. Then when evening falls, field of ship come alive as stages are set for glittering garlands and the most prestigious world. Why cruise when you can Cunard? So now we go to the fashion show at the Mandrake. People arrive and we see all these people. Everybody looks great. I mean, this cast really knows how to dress. Jesus. They all look good. So Missy is showing off her suit. She's like, I'm wearing Joshua Cain. It's so beautiful. I put the pants on. I said, oh my God, I'm wearing a suit. I'm wearing a suit. I'm wearing a suit. I'm wearing a suit. I'm wearing a suit. I'm wearing a suit. I'm wearing a suit. I'm wearing a suit. I'm wearing a suit. I'm wearing a suit. And, of course, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, with myself and my behavior. I am free of the Mark drama, but I have to talk to Martha. It's just so strange to look at someone I love so much, a soulmate and not recognize her. I think it's funny, by the way. I love when people are like, yeah, so I was totally obnoxious to Mark and I dug up childhood trauma, but I'm at peace with what I did. So I'm just gonna move on. Glad I got a piece of it. Yeah. Yeah. So everybody is just looking at her when she comes like, oh my God, Margot is here. Oh my God. And Martha is like, I'm so frustrated with Margot. I want to give her the biggest hug and the biggest fucking pony club kick that's ever been at the same time. Do you understand? So they hug and they're gonna, they're gonna, Martha's like, how are you? Mark, Margot's like, I'm okay. Okay. Margot's like, I'm in an awkward position. I'm not going to allow someone to be rude to me, but at the same time, anytime I stand up for myself, I'm accused of being the problem. So I feel really alone. You're alone because you've ostracized yourself and made everybody hate you. Sorry. Sorry that you did that to you. Oh God, I'm at peace with myself now because I said that. So Margot tells Emma, she's like, oh, I didn't get to say thank you after for having me before I left. She goes, oh yes. Well, thank you for coming. You also didn't have a chance to say it on the way back or when you got home or this entire two weeks that it's been since you left, but okay. Yeah. Yeah. Don't tell them marching us a path that you didn't have a chance for two weeks when you could have called her or sent a letter or anything. Well, I was worried about you because they said there was an incident. She goes, oh, well, it was intense for me. I mean, it was a lot. It was a lot. Do you know they have a Wallace and Grommet statue in Cheddar? It was just, it was too much. I was trying to crown this bench and then these two old men were like creeping on me. That was Wallace and Grommet, the statues. Really? Well, yeah, I mean, they were pretty hard. I'm just saying. They were flirting with me. So Joshua is getting nervous backstage because it's about time for the show to begin. He's like, this is the point where I get really, really anxious and really, really nervous. It's just so emotional. I put my everything into it. Like, well, so, but is every fashion show like this? It's like, oh, no, I was just putting an order on post to me. It's just a lot. Very scary. Does anyone have any theories on why McDonald's is always so cold when it arrives? But pizza stays warm. Think on that. Think on that. So Joshua is giving instructions to everyone. He's like, don't embarrass the pleats. And then he sends the first person down and we see the fashion show and these people, I don't know. I think people now are just like, can we just get Nightmare Before Christmas models? We just want people who look possibly dead. Cadaver models. Although this guy they had, what a beautiful, I mean, he's probably 20, but he looked like a doll. Like just did look like a doll. Wow. It was a very nice fashion show. But they were, but also I felt like everyone was like standing so close to the runway because it was like basically just like a path. And I just felt like I wanted them to have like a little bit more space. And for some reason I kept on thinking of that song. I was like, come on be my baby tonight. Because I think that I think on sister, I'll be in my baby tonight. That's gonna be in my head now. No, it's like. Come on by Jeffrey Osborn. I don't know. Everyone get ready for the cabaret. That's what being my entire cabaret performance will be like. But I just remember that they use that song during steel awards fashion show on sisters. And like, I just always think about that every time I see it, like one of these fashion shows. I'm sure you do. Seal Awards sisters fashion show. It's like, whenever you're wondering what Ben's thinking, when Ben's just staring at a wall, it's like, what do you think, nickel for your thoughts? Seal Awards fashion show on sisters. Sometimes. Guys, sisters did so many of these storylines first. So yeah, the clothes are pretty cool. He's really into these collar things, sort of just like the collar. Yeah. Yes. I actually, that's my least favorite part of his fashion show. I didn't like that. Well, someone with a waddle, I did like it. So Joshua Cain, feel free to send over some of those collars to Spicewood. I'll wear them all around the home goods girl. So Margot is basically there. They love it. And then Lottie comes out and she looks great and stuff. And so they all compliment them and he gives a little speech at the end. And he's like, as you may or may not know, this is the last show I'll be doing before transitioning officially into Winona Ryder in 1993. Thank you. Thank you very much. So she walks and I'm like, oh my God, look at her. She's so good. She's so good. And then Joshua comes out and he's like, he's like, thank you. Thank you. As you just said, I'm going to be a father and I'm so excited for it. I will now go back to my coffin. So Lottie says, you know what? In this moment, all my worries about him not being there as a dad just kind of melted away. And you know, he's at work providing for us, paying our bills, running away from menus, building a business, building a life. You know, we're having a little boy and he's going to be the heir to this business. And I'm just really excited for the next chapter to meet Baby Boy. And Baby Boy, you're getting a grilled cheese from Mummy. I'm ordering it for you. So Martha pulls Margo for a chat and she says, I really hate confrontation. I'm just getting quite, there's just so much turmoil inside right now. So they go for their little talk and Martha's like, Margo tries to start it all victimized. She's like, I mean, I just don't like even recognize you, Martha. Like I've never felt like this quite before. She goes, yeah, I don't recognize you. Margo. Margo's like, whoa, because we all thought this was going to be Martha sitting down and doing whatever Margo wanted and just like kiss her ass and probably made the cry and run off or something. And she didn't. She sat down like, listen here, you little snot nose. I brought you onto this show. Nobody wanted you on this show. They said, crop tops, never. And here you are. And now you have the nerve. I was like, yes. You ran from crushed velvet to crushed expectations. This was the, this was the Martha that ran away from home and shaved her head that came out. She goes, look, I feel like you've come back from America. Dare I even say the word with a very different sort of character, a trashy character, a stupid character, an American character from the one that I've known for 20 something years. You've just been quite often ungracious. You've been quite often bitchy. You've been quite often arrogant. Margo, you are an American. Margo's just looking at her like, excuse me, you're supposed to be apologizing. And she goes, do you have any idea what happened to me yesterday? She's, no, I don't know what happened yesterday. Well, I came to Mark with like humility. And then he spent like the 15, the next 15 minutes talking at me and not taking one ounce of responsibility for himself. And I'm like, okay, well, you can't talk to someone like that. Okay. Like I'm fine. I'm free. I'm free. So there. Okay. You're not addressing one single thing that she said, Margo. Yeah. Not a pretty clear Marth. Martha brings up a good point. She goes, Mark, criticize your shoes. You were character's character, Margo. She's like, well, but Martha, you are the one who kept coming and telling me you asked me what he said. I never lie. You know that. No, no, no, no. You call me on the phone and you're like, I just had to protect you. They were coming for you. They were coming from you. Oh, darling, at London society, everyone bitches about everyone. Well, it's like everything I do. You're like, oh, but you didn't do it the right way. Like, go talk to Mark. Well, but you didn't do it the right way. But she didn't say that about Mark. She's just over your bullshit at this point. So then we cut to Kimmy sitting with the others and they're like, oh God, now Debbie down is up there dragging, pulling Martha down. Good God. Leave the window open in case someone gets pushed out. So, yeah, Mark is like, Martha needs to learn how to take herself out of those situations. The way I do it is I usually climb up a very tall ladder and then jump across the net. When in doubt, whip out your baton. So Martha is like, I don't know what else they do with the circus. I'm out of things. Just sticky with the baton. Just like cannons, tigers. We've got clouds. We've already done clowns, trapeze, people, cannons. There's nothing left. It's over. Unfortunately for me, every time I try to get away from someone, I just wind up going in circles and circles mainly because I wind up on a motorcycle in a small ball cage, but that's okay. I feel like you're trying to turn this whole thing back on me. And I blame me and blame me for decisions that you've made. And I'm struggling with that. Margo just want to blame me for anything. I just noticed that the reason everyone started making fun of my clothes was because you started it. So how's that for not blaming you for anything? Oh God, Margo, grow up. And then we cut to the breaking point for Margo, which is Martha saying, I don't like the crush velvet. I don't like the velvet. This is Margo who went up to Martha and was like, if you don't put away your dead sister's stupid hats, I can't be friends with you anymore. But then the crush velvet's too much. Yes. And so Margo says, well, that's what Mark picked up on. And that's why they're making fun of me in front of you because you made it okay. She's like, oh God, so it's all my fault that they're not getting on with you. Martha, are you not listening? Yes, it's just that's exactly what I just heard. That's what you said. So, oh, stop taking it bigger than that. You're taking something here. No, no, that's literally what you just said, Margo. ROW THE TAPE. I think 18 seconds earlier. The reason everyone started making fun of my clothes was because you started. That's when Mark picked up on that I said I didn't like your velour jumpsuit and now Mark picks on your clothes because I said that. I mean, is that not what happened? Well, maybe Mark just generally doesn't like your clothes. We've been friends for 25 years and we've never, ever had an argument until that man entered our lives. Wait, so you said it was Martha's fault that because of Martha, they all started making fun of you, but now you're saying it's Mark's fault because if Mark weren't there, then none of this would happen. So who is the villain here for you, Margo? Yeah, I was like, it's that man. Margo, these are my friends. This is where I live. I love you, but I love them too. Well, let me ask you something because there's like fun friends. I mean, there's like fun friends, right? And then there's like friends that'll wipe your ass when you're in the fucking hospital, Martha, okay? Says the person who just said that they're going to not be your friend anymore if you don't get your shit together and stop giving your keys to strangers. There are friends who are going to wipe your shit in the hospital as long as you don't insult the lore. She says, yes, well, I don't think that Mark could deal with that. No, no, I would never ask him to do that, but I would, I would wipe your poop. And I would do that for you. I would love to wipe your poop. I'd also love to wipe Daphne's poop. I do Daphne first than you, but I would still do that for you. She says, well, I know that. And so it's like very weird to have a friendship like that and then like be held equal. Like how am I on the equal playing field as Mark? Like you're like, but you know, my friends do it's like not the fucking same. It's not like, oh honey, honey, honey, honey, honey, honey, honey, honey. You don't understand. I do have a great affection for you, but you're American. Everything you say is like pizza. This dominos that. You don't do so much. You've come to my group of friends and caused a huge amount of conflict. And this didn't work on Margo and she is pissed. She's like, wow, I've pulled out every manipulation tactic in the book. What happened to this woman that she's not falling for any of this? And Martha's like, yeah, she's someone creating all the conflicts. You know, I mean, then she's expecting me to what desert my other friends. I mean, they're my friends. Seriously, Martha, we handle things very different here, honey. This is England. No one talks about anything. They bitch about each other behind their backs. It's called manners. Yeah. She's like, I don't feel like we're getting anywhere. Cause I do like, if you go back to what Margo is saying, it's like, you know, like I'm your real friend and they're just your fun friends. I understand what Margo is saying with that. Like you're like, you should hold me with higher esteem because we have a deeper friendship. But Martha ultimately is like, yeah, they're my fun friends and I want to be with my friends that are fun. And I don't care about the bitching this behind each other's backs. They, they can talk about me behind my back because I'll talk about them and when we all get together, we have the best time and we don't care because it's none of our business. What we say behind each other's backs. So frankly, I choose fun over skid marks. And who wouldn't and who wouldn't, but also something that rings untrue about this is you think we're real friends and those are just fun friends, but you told us your history yourself and you said that you guys used to know each other back when you were a party girl and all you did was party together and that you partied so hard together that you actually went away and got sober. So you're coming back onto this show is like the first time you've been friends without being party friends, at least what she said. So make up your mind, Margo. Yeah. Yeah. So they're like, okay, they're like, well, I love you. I love you. And they're like, I love you. And they just sort of kind of end on this note of like, we do love each other, but we right now we are not friends. So you know, good for them. I actually like, good for them for still being friends. I was just glad for Martha for sticking up for yourself because I didn't see that one coming at all. And she has no problem with it either. She just stayed totally calm. She's like, Oh no, honey, everyone hates you. Do you understand? She basically defended British society. She's like, well, push comes to shove, I will defend British society before Margo. So they're like, we're gonna need, she's like, I think we're gonna need a little bit of a break. And Trump's dillards. I'm so sorry. So then we see after a short break, Martha and Margo are talking again for now in the, this is Dara font. And then Margo says, Dara. It's funny because I didn't want to be an American when I lived in the UK the first time. I wanted a whole new life, a whole new identity. But now I really love my life. I love who I am. I love being American. I'm not willing to bend myself for any other people anymore. Wow, what a coincidence. When you wanted to be British and fit in with British culture, the people who lived in that culture liked you more. But now that you decided you don't want to be part of that culture, and you want to stick on to like the American ideals, you're just not fit again anymore. Who would have thought? It's also just such a weird thing to say. Like, I mean, I love who I am. I love being American. Okay, it's a lot of people's problem with you, but okay. So Martha rejoins the group and Kimmy's like, Oh God, it's everything all right with a monster. It's good. It's good. You know, I've got your back. All right, you need me to push that bitch. I'll do it. Are there any stares in here? I'm sorry to feel like there's some light at the end of the tunnel. Metaphorically and literally back on my horse. And we see she is reunited with Daphne or horse riding her around and very happy. And then 12 weeks later, we also see that Lottie and Joshua had their baby, Ezrabo Dale Kane. That's a lot of names that don't flow. I need more flow. One of those has to be at least a two, a two syllable. We are very committed to have a child who could have no nicknames. Ezrabo Dale. Ezrabo Dale Kane. Yes, well, Joshua's going to be a great dad. I think I've worried for nothing. He comes home every night for bath time. He takes a bath and then he goes to bed. That's nice. The baby sees him sort of, you know, wafting from the bathroom to the bedroom. It's lovely seeing that. Actually, we're going to paint the whole walls because the baby can't really differentiate colors yet. So it just sees white on white. So we're going to try and get, you know, something on the walls there. But the baby will know about its father when they put a little, any, we put a little more tissue, addons, wig on the babies. That way, Joshua thinks he's looking at himself. Um, so the baby is going well. Everything's great. And then Micah's like, this summer I learned to let go of things or people that no longer serve you. Maybe I didn't see clip. Oh, you're back. Okay. Um, maybe I didn't need Darra as much as I thought because now I'm doing okay. Well, you kind of need to Darra because without Darra, you really would not have had a storyline this summer, but that's fine. Um, she said, Darra pretty quick. Actually, she hasn't even mentioned her since that second episode dropped. Yeah. Drop Darra like a bad habit. So she thanks him all for being such good friends this summer to her. And Kim is like, no matter what's happening in my life, I always just, you know, have fun. It's all fun. That's a time to play for everything, but in real life, you've got to pick yourself up and, you know, shove to the party. You know, life goes on. Actually, Kimmy, I know we started on such a wrong foot, but I'm like, actually like, she's my girl. She's like really my girl. Yeah. Well, you know, I think you're a straight attacker just like me. Oh, yeah. I built some beautiful friendships, real friendships, and they're like really helped me gain confidence. And like, I have never been more like myself than I am now. It's like, they see your boobs are out. Yes, they are. All right, Mark, it's me, Emma here. Let's do, let's do a fun game. How to speak the English language. You translate for you to, you talk first and I'll translate what you say. He's like, um, okay, but oh, I thought this was perfectly charming. Hideous. Never going again. I don't like stopping. I don't like slowing down. I act as fast as I talk slow, but I need to remind myself slowing down is not giving up. I need to be kinder to myself and breathe. Mark, are you alive? Mark, I just know you're coming back in my next life. That's right. I cursed in public. Everybody. It's a new mark. In the end, I have Margot to thank because she has helped me deal with a part of existence, which I wasn't willing to share with the people I love most. The truth is, this summer ends with gratitude and an open heart and atop. I'd like to throw over her American trash face. So they all hug and Lottie ends it out by saying, oh, what a wonderful group of people. I'm so glad each of them has agreed to be a father to my child. Anybody? Anybody? Still not put together. The baby is sleeping on the ground. So Lottie, are you putting a small suit on the camera? Yes, I am. And that's it. Lots of lens. What a tremendous, tremendous, wonderful show. It's going to live in my heart for the rest of my life. I just adored it. I hope Bravo brings it back for another season because it deserves like 10 more years on this network. In the meantime, we have the weekend to look forward to. So everyone have a great weekend and we'll be back Monday with Rhode Island, with Atlanta, Amazon Live and Crappy Hour and Ronnie to you. Have a lovely time. You too. What a weekend. Have a great one, buddy. Bye, everybody. Watch what Crappins would like to think it's premium sponsors. Ain't no thing like Alison King. Our way is the Amber Way. It's the Foster and the Furious. 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