Jane Fonda asks about hope

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Handsome from the day we were born. Handsome till the day we die Handsome on the days in between Handsome just you and I And me Wow, that was a banger One of these days we're going to stumble upon a banger right away, top of the episode The handsome band is back again, baby What do you mean one of these days? We did So was that not a banger? You're right, we did and we always do Yes, yes, yes. How's everyone doing? I'm doing well. I just reshared a picture of you, Tig, in the Oscar class photo of like all the nominees. And it just blew my mind. I saw it today on Entertainment Tonight and it's like Leonardo DiCaprio, all these nominees. And there's our little handsome Tig right in the middle. Yep, yep, yep. Right in the middle. That was really fun. I mean, obviously, the whole process is exciting and fun, but it's such a nice thing. Like, today was the luncheon. What's the difference between lunch and a luncheon? Don't know. Maybe there's an Oscar somewhere. So, yeah, it was like press in the morning, then the lunch slash luncheon. And after you eat, then they call each person up individually. and everyone cheers but it was actually really nice and fun and like I just was standing up there going god I don't know I know maybe five people up here personally but I felt so proud of everybody if I was so overwhelmed with like god good job everyone that's you know excuse me she's riled yes yes um but yeah it was it was a nice it was a nice day and um have you met leo i met leo not i i i met him in a social gathering previously okay okay yeah have you met him i think i've heard that story from stephanie yeah yeah yeah i have not met him I saw him from a distance at a party and he was vaping away and kind of grooving. And I was like, oh, what a shame. And then I thought, oh, he's kind of, you know, he's looking kind of depressing. Then he turned. I saw those baby blue eyes and I thought, I still got it. I'm in. So when you said, oh, what a shame. What was that in reference to him vaping or? Just kind of the vibe. I was like, oh, he's turning into Jack Nicholson, kind of, you know. But he does, you know, he's still got it. So he does it for you. It's really complicated. I want to be him. I want him. What are your feelings, Forge? Yeah, what are your feelings? I don't know. Who is this? Leonardo DiCaprio. Oh, for some reason, I thought I heard a different name than that. Leo. Leo. We call him Leo. I don't know why that did not register. I am not. I mean he's a good actor but it's you know his baby blues don't do it for you? no I mean he's a good looking man listen no shade for me I want to be Leo in The Beach and Romeo and Juliet and I want to be with Leo in The Departed what if he said yes but no and switched the roles that you had to be him in one of the other ones and you had to be with him. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that'll work. Yeah, that's fine. You're flexible? I'm flexible on that. Okay. Yeah. Have you had your luncheon yet, Fortune? I don't have a luncheon, Mae. You don't have a luncheon today? Just your regular luncheon. Oh, I have lunch every day, but I don't refer to it as luncheons. Well, starting tomorrow. Yeah, everybody's going to have a luncheon. Do we wear blazers as well? Blazers? I've got a full suit over here. Oh, you are? I can't see your pants. I don't know. Let's show it off. Show off this handsome suit. YouTube. It's just more of the same. Oh, yeah. Ba-ba-boo. Ba-ba-boo. That's my luncheon outfit. And then I have an evening suit for tonight's event. and you just won't ever know what that looks like unless somebody posts it on something. And then I'll reshare it like a little nerd. You're not going to be taking a bunch of pictures. I know how much you love the selfies. I do. I love a selfie. I love grabbing a famous person and getting a selfie. That's one of my favorite. Someone you don't know. Yeah. No, I'll take a picture and I'll send it to. And then you need to post that picture, girl. No, I'm not going to post it. I'm going to send it to you, girl. To her. And you, girl. I'm going to send it to our handsome thread, and then you guys can rate my look. Okay, girl. Because right now, is that like a wine-colored? Yeah, it's burgundy. Yeah, it's nice. Yeah. I don't normally wear colors, and people are saying because it's a luncheon. Oh, yeah, see? Yeah, you got to wear a luncheon. A little pop of color. Yeah, yeah. So I went with this. I love it. Enough about me. How are you? Is it enough? It's never enough. It's never enough. You know, I have to say, I don't know if you saw, but I posted a video of myself from last week when I was on Star Trek. And I posted that, and then I went about my day. Yeah. wait can I explain what the video was because I fell for it oh where you were kind of being serious yes it was like an up close video of Tig looking really serious like we saw your acting chops and you were like I hate having to post this video I never imagined I would ever have to be and then I basically just say that I got a haircut and she nailed it and I'm the hottest cast member on star trek yeah and um and that you know it's it's a hard thing to be the hottest cast member so anyway i post that i go about my day and i have you know these like screenings and all this stuff going on and people kept saying nice haircut tig hey nice haircut nice haircut and i was like thank you completely forgot about that video could not figure out like people are really hitting on me truly was thinking what is so different about my hair and then when meg fowley said oh my gosh my dad sent your video about your hair or sent that video about your haircut i didn't even think of it as a video about my haircut i thought of it as me being the hottest person on star trek so i did i was like what video is your dad's and what is going on with my haircut and then i put it together but um that was um yeah a little bit of a a funny little surprise yeah it's something good it does look it is a nice haircut well thank you um but it's my normal haircut you know everyone relax got like a little style to it yeah it's very dapper everyone calm down me and fortune started there's a little extra up here yeah i can't see but um me and fortune we have a separate whatsapp thread just about your haircuts checking it monitoring the language whatsapp not text yeah or do you guys um bad mouth me on a separate text that like disappears that kind of disappearing the invisible thing around it We go, what a bitch What a bitch I never say the word bitch and it doesn't sound good Coming out of my mouth I say it a lot for fun For funnies Can you guys guess what's in my mug? Is that a fun game? Urine You know, you're not far off Your own urine I forget, you drink, right? I do, I do, not much Oh, you're thinking it's a boozy, Bev A hot toddy Listen, I don't know. We're heading into evening. It's dark outside, according to your window, with no curtain on it. Yeah, it's dark over here, too. Yeah, where did that curtain thing go? You mean the newspaper clippings? Yes, that's why I said curtain thing. Well, it's down, but the stickers are still up from where it was. But what I want is, like, stained glass or something. Oh, that's a beautiful choice for that little window over there. That window that gets no sunlight through it. Yes. You must get stained glass. But wait, what is in your cup? What's in your mug? We have to guess. I'll give you a clue. It is hot. Mmm. I'm going to say hot chocolate. I wish. Tea? Pee? It's hot. Coffee? Mm-mm. Oh, I know what it is. What? I know what it is. Bone broth? Pretty. Oh. Yeah. It's broth Oh this is a gross game actually It's I ordered like Vietnamese food Like pho you know And then I didn't have time to eat it before the pod So I just poured the broth in the cup And then at the last minute I put Plain white rice in The broth Did you talk to it? I just poured it all over my laptop Oh boy Will this oh no will this podcast make it past this coming april oh my god or even to april the rice that you've been saying i hate or no i love you too no this is fresh rice and um so you've been saying i hate you yeah it's just always it's fun um drinking soup out of a mug you know i was um after one of my um medical mishaps when i was hospitalized the first thing that they gave me was vegetable broth so good i could not believe because i hadn't eaten in like a week you know and so i was like oh my god when i drank that broth out of that little cup i was like this is the most delicious thing I've ever had and when I got home my aunt gave as a present a like a box of vegetable broth for me and Stephanie to celebrate with oh it's like so warming and salty and you feel like you're like a hobbit and you've been on this journey through the woods and then you finally get shelter well it made me think of like Frodo Baggins you know you know come on when you have broth you feel like you've been in the wilderness in the lord of the rings yes it is a chilly night so it's a good night for the something like a cup it's really bringing me a lot of joy and that's what what you said to that's such an interesting point about gratitude like when you haven't eaten for a few days then suddenly everything's like flavor explosion and oh I I didn't think I would ever move on from having just vegetable broth I was like I'm all set yeah I'm good moving forward that's why they do those um dopamine detoxes where you stay in the dark for a long time no no screens but not even any sunlight like and and then when you emerge everything's so beautiful because we're we're too dopamine exhausted and it's yeah yeah so if you stay in the pitch black for a while we should do a pod from the pitch black i've been i've been interested in doing one of those like meditative weekends where you just sit in a small dark closet essentially totally i'm i'm up for that and your food is delivered to you and stuff i kind of thought lake arrowhead would be like that but Oh, it wasn't. You ordered way too many things on Amazon. I know. There was no deprivation or meditation. You ordered so much stuff on Amazon that when people boycotted it, it made no difference because of how much you bought. I was the reason. Yeah. Yeah. It all evened out. Yeah. I've done one of those tanks where it's dark and you're floating in the water. What's that like? What is that called? Sensory deprivation chamber. Yeah. At first I was like, oh, I'm going to drown. But then once you kind of like let yourself go, your body does start floating. Mm-hmm. And then at first it hard to get comfortable but then once you do it pretty great How long are you in there I think I was in there like an hour Whoa And why are you in there My cooter was real soggy, y'all. Oh, my God. Is that when you pulled out like an iron or a steamer? It was pruned for sure. Oh, my God. Fortune Marie. fortune Marie but I was in there a long time and that's what happens I kind of can't imagine you I'm not trying to imagine with a pruned cooter I can't imagine it I've tried to imagine it many times take a ride but what did you think about that whole hour what's it called imagination what's this whole thing I don't have a memory of your cooter but i do have a memory of it i'm like take a ride down memory lane um your imagination what did you ask me like what did you think about in there and did you sing to yourself or something um you just kind of i think you the thing you want to get to is like sort of a meditative state where you're just kind of being at first you're thinking about a thousand things um but then if you kind of like give yourself over to it it does become very relaxing yeah i was super into it by like halfway through but then i never went back and i have heard that some people have gotten pink eye from doing this yeah someone i know yeah pink eye and shriveled coat yeah so prune queen are we using this moment as a dating service wait i'm laughing but i don't know why what's dada what's what you just sounded like me me yeah wait what's queen dada queen dada it means be careful in spanish oh i thought you were referencing queen dada or something oh no just queen dada i wasn't listening i'm just bilingual i don't know what to tell you after i watch bad bunny do the halftime show i'm a real bilingual gal yeah i'm still thinking about it. 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That's O-P-O-S-I-T-I-V dot com slash handsome for 25% off. A lot of people shower in the dark. That's supposed to be really good. Turn off the lights when you shower. Why? Good for what? I don't know. Good for nothing? Good for nothing. Good for like... I don't know that I want to shower in the dark. You don't have to, Fortune. I'm just saying some people do. I shower in the morning. I'm a morning showerer, and I use it as a way of waking up. Of course. So I want the light. Oh, I see. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that makes more sense, actually. Have you ever had your coffee in the shower with you to double wake up? Yeah, or when I'm in a huge rush, I've done that. Yeah. I've had it in the bathtub with me. Hello. Hello. Hello. Rebel coat. Shrimp coat. I love a water situation. Just put me in water and let me float, and I'm going to be living my best life. Yeah, me too. I like the pool. I like the tits out hot tub. I like the bathtub. I like a shower. I like a pontoon situation. That's true. I can't believe I forgot about tits out hot tub. You can't forget about tits out hot tub. It was because your hot tub is not. It's too short. It's too short. it's just a little it's such a great visual it really is especially on a cold day the only way to get warm is to like lay you have to like lay down in the hot tub yeah otherwise my neighbors are seeing my chichis your chichis that's a new one bilingual I told you is that what they call I don't think that's the formal Spanish word for boobs. Like a doctor. If you went to a doctor in Mexico City, they wouldn't. Let's check out these chichis. Uh-huh. I don't know. You guys don't know much about that. I don't know much about anything, really. Really? Yeah, I'm along for the ride. I don't think that's true. I don't think that's true at all. I believe it is. I don't believe that. I know about chichis, but I did not. That's what I've heard. Word on the street. straight. Take knows her way around some Chi-Chi's. These handsome these handsoms know their way around some Chi-Chi's. That is right. That's what our podcast is known for. Well but it's well like people well like people have I never know if you're sleeping with someone like some people like you to do stuff with their Chi-Chi's some people really don't so you never know. Some people are like hands off the Chi-Chi's yeah you know what I mean. Y'all know me I like a Motor button. Yeah. Fortune. You are on one today. Fortune Shriveled Coot Marie. Fortune. Did you give me another middle name? Fortune. Shriveled Coot. Shriveled Coots Marie. No, just singular. Shriveled Coot. Shriveled Coot Marie. Sorry. Shriveled Coot Marie. Shriveled Coots. Yeah, what's going on with you? you're um you're you're riled you're i've been i've been filming all day oh okay and waking up at like 4 30 in the morning so i'm i don't know why i'm bouncing off the walls right now i should be passing out well how was your shoot today it was great i got to do some stunt work what by that i mean my stunt person did the stunt and i laid on the ground and popped up so you do your own stunts i sure do i did more stunts uh uh in foobar this one was a tough stunt so i said i'm gonna tap out on this one yeah but the other day i did a lot of my what was they had a stunt person doing it but i did a lot of it as well have you guys ever had to get like slapped in something and then and I'm I did and I was like can you just do it for real because it's so hard to act the like and uh this was with Toni Collette and she was like no of course she wouldn't do it well she was like I'm not gonna yeah she was like just act I was like right start right did she say it with an Australian accent I think so my did I tell you about the time when I was on the Sarah Silverman program 10 billion years ago and I had a show in San Francisco and um they called me wait what me I just took a sip of soup and then I'm like chewing the rice and it made me laugh sorry so it's okay I understand um so I'm in San Francisco for you know a weekend of shows and i get a call from production saying they need me to fly down to la during you know on friday or whatever during like first flight out friday morning get slapped in the face by jay johnston who was at the insurrection wait yes jay johnson i don't know who this is he was at the insurrection yeah he played my police cop buddy on in sarah silverman but anyway so i had to fly down that morning get in my cop suit and full makeup slaps me in the face and then go straight to the airport fly back to San Francisco and get on stage that night. That's wild. Yeah. And it's like, it was a point in my life where, you know, I was making appearances on Sarah's show and I was headlining at a comedy club and I felt like the biggest star in the world that they were flying me down to LA for the day. Southwest to Burbank. For sure. Just, just for Jay to slap me in the face. Like I've made it baby. yeah yeah oh man yeah i did a uh self-tape today for uh to play an androgynous sex robot oh i think you can do that i think it's in my wheelhouse a kind of spectrumy uh sex robot but it was it's so embarrassing self-tapes are so embarrassing i just yeah i get a friend to help me and the scene opens with me laughing but i don't know what came before it oh really don't know why you're laughing i don't know why i'm laughing and i think robots had a sense of humor well this one has some human like qualities i think they've hacked the algorithm or something can we hear the laugh that you well okay i got confused because it's a sex robot so i'm like is it yeah so i think i just murdered a bunch of people and i'll maybe be laughing at that and so i go I go no wait it wasn't like that it was more it was more flirty okay yeah thank you yeah it was like thank you that's how I did it it was more of a chuckle oh just a little chuckle yeah you didn't go full fours like I should have done that I should have done that regrets that would if I was casting something and someone made that bold choice i uh-huh damn yeah maybe maybe your robot just murdered a bunch of people and you're laughing no that is what it is that is what it is yeah yeah yeah i didn't i didn't know you knew why you were laughing well i don't i i don't know if something was said but i know i have just murdered people but i don't know why i would be laughing like i because that it was so easy oh right yeah yeah yeah yeah and it felt so good Do you have to have sex? I'm trying to seduce Alexander Skarsgård, kind of. I'm not going to get the part. Let's be honest. We don't know this. No, we don't. Because that laugh is pretty good. It was a chuckle for them. It was a chuckle, but maybe that's what they want. Fake laughing is really, well, clearly not that hard. Tig just nailed it. You know what's the hardest thing to do? What? Is to yawn. So, yeah, it doesn't look real, Mae. for sure does not you can't you can't put your hand up there you gotta really show no no guys but i just really yawned no it still looked that was a legit real yawn you know what cracks me up you just went to me like yell at my yawn fortune i learned a new trick from kim kardashian today oh what's that i um was in the scene and i felt like i was gonna have to sneeze and i was like i think i'm gonna sneeze and it wasn't happening and she and there was a big crane with a light on it she said look into the light you never heard that no i turned around to the light and immediately sneezed yeah that i've heard that that that's as old as time well no father abraham but i've never heard i've never heard this yeah i've heard that but i've never tried it is it how is that it works it works for you like i literally sneeze like that whoa yeah i'm trying it now but i guess i didn't have to sneeze to begin with exactly you have to sneeze you have to be you have to have it all built up yeah it's a terrible feeling when a sneeze is about to get away from you do you is it true that if you sneeze with your eyes open your eyeballs pop out yes okay yes i know many people who have lost their eyes to such a thing. I feel like my, I have really intense sneezes. I scare the whole house, the cats jump and run and the alarm gets set off. It's really bad. Like if I tried to bring it down a notch, I think my brain would just come flying out of my ears. That's like, no, that's like the most dad thing about you. I've heard that's such a dad thing that their sneezes are like, wait, that's the most dad thing you've, have you heard other things that weren't quite so daddish? Just that I've heard about you. Yeah. Yeah. Just when I picture you doing big sneezes in the house, I'm like, that's dad energy. Yeah. Yeah. Big dad energy. BDE. That's right. That and that suit you wearing We have a really exciting question Yeah coming from a really exciting mouth that attached to a really exciting person Really exciting person yeah Uh-huh. Yeah. Big fan. Yeah. Yeah. Samesies. Mm-hmm. You'll hear about our guest in a second, but it's a real legend. She's been in the biz, as they say, for a long time. I know, right? Very long. And this is a question you got for us, Tig. I just say it still blows my mind that people like icons like this are sending in cues to this little pod. I know it. And icons like this are still so active in the world, doing cool, great things. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. Today's question asker is an actor, fitness guru, and activist who's won countless awards, including multiple Oscars, Golden Globes, and Emmys. She's been an outspoken anti-war advocate and feminist icon for decades. One of her workout videos is the highest selling VHS tape of all time. Jane Fonda is asking today's question. No, I've jazzercised with this gal a time or two. Jazzercised with Jane? Yes, right. Hi, this is Jane Fonda, and I'm on the Handsome Project. and I'm also on my way to Santa Barbara to the film festival because I have a documentary called Gaslit that's being shown there. That's why I'm all dressed up and made up. Nice. So my question for you all, which is an important question, because the people that appear to be in charge of this country right now want us to be hopeless, confused, chaotic, and hopeless. So remaining hopeful is basically an act of defiance and it's absolutely needed right now. So my question for you is, how do you remain hopeful? Wow. That's such a good question. She's seen a lot in her lifetime. She really has. And hearing that from her makes me feel hopeful. It's just so reassuring whenever she speaks, I think. Can I just tell you right out of the gate what makes me feel hopeful? What? Just Jane Fonda. Yeah, that's so good. She looks so good. Well, she's 88 years old. That's wild. 91% of dog parents say their pup is an important member of the family. And 40% would even save their dog over a human stranger. Safe to say people are obsessed. I remember when I first laid eyes on Fortune's dog, Biggie. I've never been the same since. And if anyone gets being dog obsessed, it's Ollie. 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That's W-A-Y-F-A-I-R.com. Wayfair. Every style, every home. And she gets up and she starts rallies. She's making videos for TikTok. She's, you know, she's like marching and involved. She's engaged. She cares so much. And it's really remarkable because Stephanie and I were with her the other day. And one of the things she said, she was like, I feel so lucky to be alive right now, which I feel like so many people would say the opposite of. Yeah, absolutely. And she so personifies the type of hope that is not just – because the definition of hope is expecting a positive outcome, trying to confidently believe that a positive outcome can happen. And I don't know, sometimes I get down or I get pessimistic. Yeah. Or I think that being hopeful is like a cop-out and I can't be hopeful and angry or something. But she's hopeful and angry and she's her brand of hope is like empowering. It's like we have the power to make these changes. It's not just like, well, this, you know, this will sort itself out. It's like she is up doing stuff because she's seen firsthand the effect that that lobbying can have and activism. and that's so encouraging to be like this can make a difference there's like things like like boycotts and protests and bringing attention and awareness to things and lobbying that it does make a difference that is good did she expand on why she's glad to be alive in these times i mean i think i didn't have a follow-up question for her i think it was more the the vibe and i could have been wrong is uh i don't even know that she's that it was like not like she's having a like oh what a great time but yeah no more like there was a feeling of hopefulness of like we can turn this around and i'm glad i'm still here to contribute to that yeah and like let's get to work and and that there's there's so much wonderful stuff on the other side of it all but um that really stuck with me. Yeah. And I wonder if like generationally she's, she's not in this social media algorithm and news, negative news cycle that, that is so overwhelming and makes you feel so, so paralyzed and so negative about human nature and makes you feel like people are so divided in such an extreme way. Like maybe she's, she's outside of that. You know what I mean? Also, when you hear from an older person who's been through different iterations of bad times, good times and bad times, and that she remains hopeful, that helps people, I think, be hopeful. Because she's seen some low lows and seen the country, the world get through those things. And yeah, like the hills and valleys of it. Mm hmm. Yeah, I find it so hopeful. People could just end up sitting on a couch watching the news complaining. And that's the end of the story. Yeah, this like being outraged and echoing the outrage, but not offering solutions or chasing solutions. And I'm trying to remember, like, I can be like that. I'm, I do feel today I feel good. But some days I do feel really overwhelmed and like paralyzed by the insanity. And, and, and then I did the other day, I was Googling stuff, you know, as, and then I found like a study that was over decades, um, measuring empathy and people and, and kindness and generosity. And the study showed like, there's been no deterioration in human empathy and kindness and stuff like that. We are actually wired for altruism and community and kindness. That's like, we are wired that way as animals. And so that's reassuring. And that all the conflicts we're experiencing and division, hopefully, can lead to, like, you need that to break down the old way and build something new. I hope. I don't know. And so you were specifically Googling what? like are people bad are is human nature bad are people are people getting worse like i think yeah are we in a moral decline like where and you're asking google yes why not talk to chat gpt no not chat the ai that's taking over all of us no i'm not gonna use him again uh but yeah i just like I'm trying to get a zoom out and get a picture of like, is this, are we spiraling to words really the end? Cause it can feel like that with, with everything. And then I, so I'm trying to actively think like even the word apocalypse, I was listening to a podcast apocalypse means to reveal something new. So it, yeah, it's a, hopefully we're gonna, we're hitting a real rock bottom in terms of like corruption and depravity and having a, you know, a country like lots of countries in history have been revealed to be run by kind of an organized crime ring, basically, like, and hopefully now it's out in the open. This is, this is what we're going to need to. And how does it feel for somebody like yourself who is not from this country? Yeah. And I know there's corruption all over the world and there always has been, and there always will be, but to be smack dab in the middle of what is going on in a country that you aren't even from. Yeah. I feel like I'm a masochist, but then I also feel scared to say stuff and I don't have a right to get as engaged and involved as I want to be. I'm worried about my green card application and stuff. So that's a weird place to be. But yeah, it is really weird. A lot of my friends in Canada are like, what are you doing? And yeah, it's such a strange time. You see like Olympic athletes and stuff saying it's a very strange time to be out representing America, but then also so many amazing people are here and the best of, it's like the best and the worst. Yeah, but it is a really uniquely surreal, surreal time. Yeah. Well, I mean, we're getting more information than ever. It's so there in your face and news is now entertainment. Yeah. So, you know, you want to stay informed, but these times are requiring you to dig a little bit more because it's crazy how many videos are popping up now that are AI and are fake. and it's so easy to like see a headline on this and be like oh my god this it's you're required to like go a step further to be like is that true so there's like a duty on our end to um not just bury your head in the sand and have this ignorance is bliss attitude otherwise atrocities continue to happen um without any checks and balances so you have to be present in that way. But I think what makes me stay hopeful is also remembering to go out into the world and be around people. And, you know, especially with the job that we have of traveling and standups, it allows us to meet a lot more people than maybe we would if we stayed in our bubble. And then when I'm out in the world and I meet so many different people, that makes me hopeful because it reminds me like, oh, there are a lot of really good, kind people in all these different cities and states, red states, blue states. Yeah. And when I can experience life in person and, you know, sure, you see people act like dicks, but you also see a lot of empathy, kindness. And that makes me go, OK, there's a lot of us out there, a lot of nice people out there yeah and that will um you know that's what we need um yeah like i want i want to do a a pruning of not to bring up pruned cooter again but like a pruning of my instagram yeah especially if it's fortunes i want to prune fortunes uh no i want to like on my instagram make sure i'm only following people who are really that's my that's my burner account at prunecooter like people who are really informed account is that what it's called i don't know what that is it's called a fake account finsta finsta yeah yeah but yeah like i i i i'm accidentally following all of these random sites that are just putting endless pictures of like confrontations with people and and and yeah i i want to be following really informed people who or posting longer content or directing to places to donate or actions to take or solutions. Like I got it. Cause I, I'm really bad with Instagram. I'm really addicted and I'm constantly watching full blown murders in front of my eyes. It's like, we're not meant to synthesize all this stuff, I think. So I, yeah, I'm trying to stay and, and, and, and with like our platforms, just like directing people to actual things they can do locally and nationally to help because there are things and then the minute you do something local and you see the change you feel so empowered and hopeful One of the hope too is that you know when things swing one way really far the hope is that it swings back at some point in the other direction so that there is that um where we're in this space right now the hope is that it swings back over um we You've got to make it swing back. When elections happen. And I know that it gets scary when you hear people be like, you're never going to get rid of me. I'm going to go for third terms and fourth terms. The hope is that, again, the checks and balances of our judiciarism stay in place and protect us from that kind of like, you know, monarchy or not even monarchy, dictatorship um that we can remain a a governing body that where people can vote on what that's i mean recognizing that that's a real threat of losing that and then really demanding it and and like calling your representatives and flooding them with phone calls and demand like that stuff really has an impact because it really disrupts things like um that that five-year-old who was in the ice camp and and was released uh liam he that was from pressure yeah that was from pressure yeah yeah i mean heartbreaking all the other kids who are still in there but like that that spotlight that we can put on things does help i think in a way absolutely when you have to the the people coming up the young people care they gotta care they gotta show up and vote and do things and be active and be participants and not just let things happen to us as a society and as a country. Do you have to see that participation and the hope is that they will give a shit about what happens? I sometimes accidentally am like, well, either I'm like, oh, I hope the grownups fix this. Or I'm like, I hope these teens come and fix this. And I'm like, I'm the grownup. I forget like. who looks like a teen who looks like a teen sure and can fix this but like we are the no one is coming to help us we are the adults and so yeah yeah of course pressure's on gen z to sort this out but like yeah let's help them yeah i do feel like listen i don't ever miss a vote ever no man I have been, I've always taken that very seriously. My grandmother was very active. My mom was very active. My mom still, to this day, volunteers at the polls every election. So there's not one vote that I miss. That's so nice. Ginger seems like a very active person. Like you said, the LGBT parents group and stuff, like she gets involved. She gets her hands dirty. P-Flag. P-Flag. P-Flag. P-Flag. Is there a P flag in Canada or England? There must be. Should we hear what Jane has to say? Yes, please. I hope she helps us, gives us some pointers. I hope she does too. Come on, Jane. We need hope from Jane. We're hopeful Jane makes us hopeful. I've experienced personally and have witnessed enough change in my lifetime to know that hopelessness is not only self-defeating, it's unrealistic. Writer Annie Lamott said, if you want to be hopeful, if you want to have hopeful feelings, do hopeful things. This would include paying attention and noticing when things are going well, celebrating incremental victories and improvements instead of waiting for the big final victory. Engage in caring and nurturing activities. They promote hopefulness. And by the way, my current action, which you've participated in, Tig, working with the entertainment industry to protect the First Amendment and electing people to office who don't kowtow to corporations but work for people and the planet, these actions have helped me remain hopeful. You know, the young climate activist Greta Thunberg, she says, everybody goes looking for hope. Look for action and hope will come. And another quote that I love, this is the Vaclav Havel. He was a very famous playwright in Czechoslovakia. He was imprisoned by the communists in 1985. he said hope is the ability to work for something because it is good not just because it stands a chance for success five years later communism fell and baklip havel became president you never know how things are going to turn out so take action and be hopeful i love it i mean how do you not advice. Yeah. Like the best, the best. Yeah. I like that Greta Thunberg quote as well. I'm trying. Yeah. I mean, if send us, if you're, if you're listening and you have info organizations that you think would be good for us to be aware of, or ideas for the handsome community to get involved, you're on the Reddit page that I never look at. Just kidding. I look at it a lot. uh suggest some some stuff locally you know meet up with each other let's fortune loves a meet up yeah so many meetups yeah constantly meeting up well it's got to start in your you know start in your community absolutely your neighborhood yeah you gotta start somewhere i think that's the problem is everything feels so big and out of your control and out of your hands and when things feel so big and overwhelming people tend to go well there's nothing i can do about it and they just go on about their lives, but there are things that you can do and it has to start. And they always say start at a local level, start around your town, around your city and find ways to make that place better and grow it from there. And I think people get intimidated and they're like, I've never done this or I've never shown up to some community gathering or political event. And And, you know, I think that it's so cliche, but showing up is half of it. Yes. I mean, really, whether you're pursuing your dream or showing up to political causes and you don't even know where to start. Yeah. Just showing up, people will point you in the right direction because they will be absolutely thrilled that you're there. Yeah, you'll feel that love as soon as you get there and be welcomed with open arms. I've been volunteering at Food on Foot in L.A., and I've never done that before. And I was totally nervous the first time that I was just going to do it wrong or it was going to be scary. And now almost every Sunday I'm there, it makes me feel so grateful. That's amazing, Mae. I'm loving it. And every time I've been, they've run out of food for the line. So like, yeah, give what you can. I thought you were saying that like it's a really great thing. Every time they run right out of food. It's like they need support. And they're one of many organizations that you have no idea what a difference your 20 bucks a month would make or your whatever. And the boycotting, the economic activism, this whole situation is caused by greed and money. and that's something we have control over yeah that's just the perfect example yeah unbelievable when people were like yeah we're out yeah yeah he's yeah he's the king on top cancel your subscriptions and look or look for you know support minority-owned companies and um alternatives some of our sponsors are really great alternatives to things like yeah amazon even whole foods i think is sketchy so but that's what that's the thing is that when you know people are seeing these things happen and they're like that's not right it is amazing to see people um you know coming together very quickly you know like you said with the Kimmel thing like they canceled all these subscriptions and it and it quickly reversed what was happening and then I mean even in Minneapolis you you're seeing their entire communities you know showing up to help other people obviously there are you know things that have happened there and not backing down i mean it is incredible and with the weather and the crowds turning out and it's just it's really beautiful around such a sad sad yeah that's what i'm really loving there there are a few people right now who are fighting for the accountability for Epstein perpetrators and they're out there and their refrain is, we will not let this go. And yeah, that's what they're hoping we'll do. That we'll just be so overwhelmed. We'll go, oh, fuck. Yeah, it's just too much that people just, again, turn a blind eye, but people are going, no, don't let this go. It would be so easy to just walk in your house and ignore it. And they're like, no. Yeah. So that's what's going to make change. And seeing people be so brave is another thing that helps with the hope. Yeah. And there's some serious bravery going on right now in the world. As much as there is horrendousness, the bravery that is in action is, it's... Very inspiring. It really is. it like i'm i'm i'm beside myself when i see the bravery that is going on i mean i i an ex girlfriend like close close friend of mine who i think i've talked about who's in gaza now with with doctors without borders and the bravery like i can't even talk about it without crime but i'm like there are hundreds of thousands of people out there doing that putting their lives at risk to bring aid. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah. A lot of cellulose people out there. Yeah. It's really beautiful to see that kind of action going on. But also don't beat yourself up if, you know, and then get paralyzed. And then it's like, just do the little thing that you feel you can. Yeah. And then that will lead to another thing and another thing. And just show up, whether it's to a friendship, a march or your dream showing up is really really powerful yeah well how about that how about it we got serious today yeah we really did good thing i talked about cooters earlier yeah thank god so we covered all our faces and the hollywood events man yes i'm going to get a massage after this actually i don't know why i just said that but that was brave i mean that's showing up you're gonna show up for a massage you just said brave yeah hashtag brave i love you too talking about this made made me need a massage i'm gonna go show up i'm gonna show up yeah yeah so march 10th what do you guys got coming up soon well we we have this live show i'm very excited about may 4th handsome at the will turn as part of netflix is a joke fest with britney snow and malin ackerman in los angeles yes that's los angeles yes um cuidado i have the oscars this week no big deal yeah yeah oscars this sunday and then uh i'm also on tour and uh you can catch me in connecticut and maine and new jersey and california and washington state just so many new york i don't even know what to tell you oregon i'm coming for Montana. Go to tignotaro.com and also come see me in the good light on Apple TV, the documentary I produced about Andrea Gibson. I'm, I will, when this comes out, I will have just finished my first little chunk of tour. And on March 17th, I'm in Minneapolis. We just added an extra show at 930 and then Madison, Wisconsin, Milwaukee, Chicago, Detroit, Columbus, Ohio, Cleveland, and Pittsburgh and New York and Philadelphia on this really long stint. So please come to all those ones. There's still tickets on maymartin.net. Yeah, starting in April, I'm in Oklahoma City, Fayetteville, Arkansas, and Little Rock, Arkansas, San Antonio, Dallas, Texas, Des Moines, Toronto, Rochester, Minnesota, Cedar Rapids, Omaha, Portland, Maine, and Detroit. So check out a show. That's one of our small ways to try to help other people be hopeful is going around this country and trying to make people laugh and bring some levity and also bring in groups of people together that, you know, share that same energy and love and acceptance and hopefully spreads that out to everybody else. Yeah. I think all of us have that experience of our shows. I'm sure maybe all comics feel this, but I feel like our particular fan base is so full of warmth and connectivity, and it's really a nice vibe. If you're feeling down, come out and give a stranger a hug. We're some lucky, lucky handsomes to have our fan base. And please, if you'd like to continue building our handsome community, please share your favorite episodes with your loved ones. And also don't forget to rate, review, and subscribe. We're also on YouTube. So you don't want to miss Fortune's calves and May's biceps. Your haircut. My haircut. I mean, it's a wild time. Or sexy dances. That's right. 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