"Elevated Messy" (w/ Rachel Sennott)

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So I guess like 2018, 2019, I think. 2018, 2019, around there. It was the bell house. I don't think so, honey. And this was a time when we would like corral like 50 people together. Bowen and I would sit on stage. We would do I don't think so, honey live. Five people would come up and they would do I don't think so, honey. After I don't think so, honey, they'd filter it out. We'd call it like gay Bonnaroo. Bonnaroo. Now we would call it gay kill Tony or something. Yeah. Now there's like the references would change. But like we would like be before the show, like saying hello to every single person that we had booked and we were so excited because Rachel, Senate was coming on the show, who may be the guest on this episode. You'll have to find out in like a minute, a minute and a half. But I remember going over and you only have so much time to say hello to everyone because it's 50 people and I'm just like saying hi, hi, hi. And then I see Rachel and I go, hi. Oh, no. Oh, no. Because she is sobbing. She says this is one of the worst days of my life. And we'll get into why. She's like, I'm so excited to be here. This is one of the worst days of my life. And we'll get into why on this episode. Starring I love LA creator. Star. Star, et cetera. All of the sort of titles. This one whole. This is one of I would imagine I'm not going to speak on your behalf, but one of the best weeks of your life. And it's only getting better from here. Well, we'll bring her in. She can confirm or deny. This is. Is it all it seems? Former guest of the show. But we've had this is our first time in person with her, which feels so insane, wild and more. Everyone, please. Let's go. Let's go. Welcome. Rachel. Oh, my God. Thank God. Blank, clank, clank, clank, clank, clank, clank. And it's all the kinds of diet coke. We have the ones in the can. We have the ones in the bottle. I wish I had can. But of course I went bottle because that was what was available. Of course. At the bodega. But I was like. I'm trying it. I'm trying it and it's totally fine. Straw it. Now tell us what was so fucked about that day. Oh, my God. So the other thing that's crazy is it's like at that time I was such a disaster. I was going through it was a tumultuous time. Yeah, you know, we're going to. Yeah. And in my head, I was like, no one else knows that this is tumultuous for me. I thought to what I was presenting on the outside was like normal. Grounded, added together. And now it's like I see people who have known me. Yes. They're like, you've really matured. You wow, you really like, you know, you feel you're a lot more grounded. Is that offensive? Yes. Yeah. I think it's like it's good because now looking back, I'm like, that was really scary. Not only was I crying, I was like ripping poppers in the back room. I was addicted to poppers. And I was just sitting in the back room, open sobbing. People were coming in and out. I remember like Sydney, Washington coming over and being like, it's OK, love. All right, get it together. Get it together. Get it together before you go on stage and rip a minute. So rip a minute. Just just wait, rip a minute, then rip a popper. And then we'll put you in the Uber home. Let's go. Wow. See, that's community care because because Matt was saying it was like it was 50 people in the community just descending on you to show support. But also they were like, but we also have to get ready for a bit. But you do what we do have to do. We do have to do our best. Please get it together, do your bit and then either go home or just, you know, keep the crying to a minimum. But it was like three days after and I was I was raw. I was really, really raw. Yeah. And I don't think so, honey, was I don't think so. Honey breakups. Yeah. And say that. And I did it with tears in my eyes and poppers in my throat. I was like, I was like, yeah, that's how deep they were going. No, they were getting hot. It was crazy. Yeah. Yeah. How did the pot? What was the first hit? Who was your fucking Sherpa? So this is what happened is basically I did it was around my birthday. Yeah. And this is also around the time. No, one year before was when I accosted you guys. Yeah, yeah. To that in a second. And because we all had a vulnerable, vulnerable moments, we all. And that's again, what the community is for. That's why we have each other's backs, because we saw each other at the highest in the world. 100 percent tears everywhere. I walk and I go family because you've seen it all. Thank God. But basically it was like I had a small birthday party or whatever. A couple days before the break up and Moss Perakoni. Yes. Who we know and we love. Genius writer writing on SNL. A couple of buildings away. Let's go. I'm going to go say hi later today. Moss was like, I just heard about poppers. To get by the way, to get introduced to poppers by a straight man. Come on. It's one of our best straight. One of our best straight men. Very of that time. Very of that time. Very of that time. Because things were mixing. It was like everyone was a little bit. Everyone was dabbling into each other. Yes. What have you got going on over there? And it was poppers. So Moss was like, I just did poppers one time. We should buy them and like do them once tonight on your birthday for fun. OK. Oh no. Huge mistake. Oh God. He brings the poppers to the party. We all do poppers, whatever. I'm like, that's kind of fun. Yeah. Then. The next day. Do the break up. Yep. Oh, do the break. Do the break up and I immediately fall apart and I start looking for something. Something I go, what's here at this point? I'm living with my dad in Hell's Kitchen. Me and my dad are roommates in Hell's Kitchen and Hell's Kitchen is what? The capital of poppers. Capital of poppers. It's actually really culture number 26. Kitchen is what the capital of poppers. You can get them anywhere. You can get them at the pet store for $4. Yeah. Not bad. $4. And by the way, impossible to get an LA. Something New York has over LA. This is really true and I know a spot. I know a place, Muna, where you can get them. And I'll tell you after, although I don't think it would be good for you. I moved on. I moved on. You're in the cupboard. I'm in the cupboard. I've matured, but I will say when I first moved to LA, I went to get poppers somewhere and I had to drive to like four places and I was like, I ended up in like a sex shop at like two in the morning and they were like, we have one bottle left. It was like, it was crazy. It was crazy. So I so, OK, I'm searching. I'm searching through my dad's apartment. It's like there's nothing there except for the poppers. Boom. I just start. I just start taking them. Yeah. And I'm taking them like in the morning. I'm taking them like 10 times a day. I do think there's a piece of my brain missing from that time. It's like I'm taking them raw. I remember Catherine Cohen. Yes. We went to like breakfast the next day because she was being an amazing friend. She was being there for me and I was like ripping poppers at Cafe Cluny. She was like, my love, you got to stop. My love. You got to put those down. Save it for right after. She also poured me a glass of vodka and watered it down at like 10 in the morning. I love Catherine. This is so I literally can picture this. I can see the coat she's wearing. Yes. Yeah. We know the coat. We know the coat. It's fabulous. And so then it was just from there, I just had them on me. And that was like my thing. I was just like, I can always do a popper in five minutes. Sure. And can I ask what was the feeling? Were you chasing a feeling or was it just the like the pacifier? Like let me just do my thing. It was a little pacifier. I'm total pacifier girl. Of course. It's like I need a pacifier at any moment. How many vakes on set on any given day on the set of I Love Ella? You know, what was crazy is they gave us fake vapes, non nicotine vapes. And then we all started to and I was like, it's really just about having a butt. Yeah, it's the. It's a toy. It's a toy. It's like a. Yep. I just want something to hold and suck on and play. OK. Yeah. It's getting a little. Don't we don't. Don't we don't buy it. So then I just had them. I think what it was is that when I would take the poppers, I would start laughing so hard and then I would start crying. Yeah. And it was sort of my entryway into crying. Wow. Yes. You were able to access. I was able to access how I was feeling. Did you lose that access once you got off the poppers? You know, what's crazy is no, I didn't. But I entered a period of my life. I would say the mid 20s. I was like, I'm healed. Yeah. Yes. I'm so healed. Because it was COVID. Right. I moved to LA and I was like, I became like a hermit, honestly. Yeah. Well, I went all the other way. I was just like, I'm like barely drinking. I'm not doing anything else. Poppers on the West Side Highway. None of that. I'm like, I'm very, I'm very locked in. Locked in. And I think it was almost like I over corrected. You know what I mean? And then. Came this out on return. Of course. Dammit. Which is when you ran into us on the street, by the way. Which is, oh my God. We know you guys on the street. This I'm back pedaling. We need to back up. OK. This is this is still messy era. This is probably like the year before my full crush out. This is like twenty seventeen. Yes. Yes. And I'm having a birthday. It's my birthday and I was on Cat Show. Yes. I'm like, yes, birthday. I come out of there wasted. Yeah. I see Matt and Bowen outside on the street. I don't realize they're having a deep discussion that involves a tearful discussion. Was it Union Hall? I think it was Club Come. I think it was the Club Coming show. OK. OK. So if it was twenty seventeen Club Coming, it was one thing. If it was twenty eighteen Club Coming, Union Hall. It was another thing because I can remember two times. But twenty eighteen Club Coming also sounds viable. Oh, like it was on the ground. I'm willing to bet it was about both of us going through the SNL audition process and only one of us getting hired. That's my suspicion. It might not be correct. Saying it's about that, I feel like makes it seem like I was heartbroken about not getting the job. There's so many emotional things in that. Like the friendship that it could have been about. But so I'll just say that it wasn't like me. I've been like, you got SNL. No, no, no. I don't mean to misrepresent that. The vibe was literally like sweet, beautiful moment between friends talking through something we have. It was I need those. Do you know what I mean? You came over like, let's go. Yeah, I was like, it's my birthday. How awesome was the show? Who wants to do shots? You guys both turned to me in tears in your eyes. And you're like, could we just have a minute? Just one minute. Because the fact is we do want to do shots. We do want to do shots. But it was just it was just like my vibe was so insane. And you guys were like, it was like I was interrupting like a beautiful moment. That was the vibe was it was like a beautiful moment of you guys connecting. Yeah. Talking through something and me being like shots, bitches. One or two, let's go get inside. I love this girl. Yeah, I love this girl, though. I think she's obviously still there. She's in the show. She's Maya. There's a throwaway reference to like, I remember when Maya was a talk that Jordan saying that to you in the show, like, Maya, this is like when you were a dentist of poppers, I was like, I was there for that. You were like, yep, well, I remember. Well, so basically, OK, so because what what I try to do with the characters is because like I was saying, I moved to LA and then I sort of like locked down and was sort of like Herman and I think that's when I started to feel really isolated. I felt like I I had trouble like driving and like seeing friends in LA. And I felt really alone and I was like really gripping to control. It's so different from New York, too, where it's like you can go to a fucking bellhouse show with 50 people and they can all be there for you and they get it. Whereas then you go to LA and it's like, that's not how it is. No. And then it's at 3 p.m. And you're alone in your apartment and you're like, who am I? What's going on? So then basically my Saturn return came and I felt like my Saturn return was basically like all the lessons for my early 20s coming back, punching me in the face and I got like messy again in a more elevated way, in a more fun adult. I live in a messy front runner for title of a but elevated messy. But I think so what I kind of tried to do with Maya and to Lula is to Lula is sort of a representation of like me in my early 20s in New York. Maya is kind of that like control freak tendency. Me like mid like 26, 27 in LA. And then together they are better because I what I'm hoping. What I'm hoping is that now I'm a more evolved person where I have a little bit more balance, a little bit more freedom, intuition, and I can have fun. But I'm but I'm not completely out of control, disaster mess. Yeah, you are. You are representing in these two characters, Apollo Dionysus. Yeah, that's it. Oh, Apollo wants order Dionysus wants hedonism and fun. He wants poppers. Dionysus wants poppers desperately. It's actually a little culture number two. Dionysus wants poppers desperately. I have to connect with you about the poppers thing because I too was addicted to them. Right. Because I'm thinking of like imagine a world where not only was all those things true, but also it was tied to sex. I couldn't even know. You I don't think you'd be here. I don't think I'm almost not here. It's crazy when you are like a bottom. Yeah. And you need them to take dick. Yeah, it becomes a thing where I was in a relationship once and we were having sex all the time, it was short lived, but I was using poppers all the time. Yes. And so when we broke up, it was not only a thing of like I enjoy them and they get me off, but also it's sort of like they remind me. A little bit. And I didn't realize that I had grown dependent. Oh, my God. When I tell you like never been. It was a thing I talked to my therapist about for like almost a year and she would actually ask at the top of sessions, like, how are you doing with this? And I was like, oh, my God. And it was the only thing I would have like the urge to Sabrina Carpenter lie to my therapist about. Yeah, because I was like, this is humiliating. Yeah. What it literally is, is you're huffing. You're huffing. You're huffing. Polish. I know it's literally when you're like a kid and you're in there and they're teaching you about the things you can get addicted to, you're like, well, that's the lamest one. You're like that. That's not going to be me. Huffing. Huffing glue. And then there you are with apple nitrate trying to get dilated or go to a robin concert and enjoy dancing on my own more. Oh, my God, which we also did. We also did. But there was a time when it got dangerously in the fabric of like social stuff. Yes. Once you connect it, that's with any addiction. As soon as you've connected it, you form the little wire in your brain. It's like, well, we're not coming back from this. It's like now I'm remembering my ex. Now it's connected to it's like what? Yeah, very, very, very connected to sex and the gay community. And also like it's just a little social. Yes. Like I remember one time we had Trixie Mattel on the show and she was like, do you guys use poppers recreationally? And we were like, yeah. And she was like, what? And now I'm kind of like seeing that perspective because it is a little bit like, like, get off, do your thing or go off, get off and go off. It is a little bit like to have it around all the time. It's like there are holes in your brain. There's holes in my brain for sure. But it hasn't helped you back. Hasn't helped me back. Are you? The air I can feel the wind going through the holes. Like it's like swiss cheese. That's how I get on my guide. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. The holes in my brain. Wait, was this the frequency? The frequencies are they're they're they're throwing was was you moving to LA permanently? Was that the same time as Kamanat's LA or was that before that was before? Kamanat's LA was just a trip that you took. Kamanat's LA was a trip that I took. And I I did a little water bottle tour. This is pre covid. Yeah. And I felt completely lost there. I was sort of like, what are these meetings? What's going on? And everyone was like, you're not supposed to like pitch anything hard. You just are supposed to like give people a sense of who you are. So then I would show up to these meetings and you would see the like person that I was meeting with like read the email about who I was. And they would go like. Yes. Racial. So you're a slut. Twitter. Who what's going on? And then I would just go into all these meetings and like talk about how like mess my life was and everyone's like, oh my God, girl, that is so funny. OK, cause when you want to do a show about a sentence or something. No, this is what they would do. I would talk for like 45 minutes and then they would be like, OK, so on our slate, what we have is we are doing a remake of Bratz and we about whatever. And they're like, I just come to us with one sentence and that's how we like to develop. Then I leave. I never hear from any of them. No, never. Never again. So I was just coming back from like a week of that being like, I feel crazy and stupid and everyone there like hates me, whatever. And I feel like I I just I was just joking around with my boyfriend at the time and being silly. And then we made that video. But like, I mean, I'm sure you've been asked this and I want to ask what you're sick of being asked on this fucking press run. So far, nothing. Really? That's great. I can't think of this. Let me think a little bit. Nothing. I came into being like, I'm going to ask her about Kamana. So I just like briefly. But I feel like, I mean, gag you that that's like prophetic. That like that that ended up being like, yeah. No, it was kind of crazy. I was like, I didn't really. But do you know how they say time is always happening at the same time? Yeah, right now we're at the Bauhaus. Flat circle vibes. We're at the Bauhaus right now. And I feel that we're also 90 in the nursing home. Yeah. Oh my God. That's going to be a good conversation. I can't wait. Pudding for no one. We have to be at the same. They need to put us in the same nursing home. That's why I said past, present and future. That is exactly what I meant. I was in the nursing home. Nursing home, but MPTF, like this fundraiser thing that like they throw every year around the Emmys, that is literally a nursing home for actors. I can't wait for us to be there. We have to go there. Leena Dunham told us about it. It's like they do like pottery out. They literally do like for old actors. Oh, I love it. People in TV and film like pottery. Our poetry. That's so beautiful. I can't wait till it's our whole friend group. Catherine, I'm the same. At the pottery wheel. You reaching for the poppers Catherine like, no, put this away. Slapping my love. My love. I'm like, it's almost over. Let me have one. Almost over. Oh, no, when we're 90 forget about it. I'm rapping again. Yeah, we're done. We're done. Wait, so I so OK, time is a flat circle. No, no, no, you were going to go. No, no, no, it was it. But yes, it felt almost prophetic. Yes. Yes. But that was before I moved to LA and then I moved during COVID. Yeah. But bitch, now look at you. This is a show that is like on HBO and it's not a fucking sentence. Promise. You know what I mean? It's like that's at least three sentences. It is at least three sentences. I was like, I can't. Yeah, no, it's minimum four. Also, they wouldn't want that anyway. Yeah, you gotta have a lot of sentences. That's an exact being told. That's what you ask. What you ask, they say, give me one sentence. I can't I talk. I ramble. Yeah, I can't talk that short. Can't talk that short. No, like a sentence can be like infinitely long. Yes, comma, comma, comma, comma, comma. People forget about how many commas actually are permissible in a sentence. The answer would shock you 12, 13. Wow. 15. Yeah, I can come off. If you're doing a list in the sentence. Hi. Hi. I'm Dash. What is this? A.I. Brenteses. Yeah. Are you a moon person? I dabble. I'm like sort of dabbling. I I'm definitely astrology. I'm definitely because I'm a psychic. Yes, yes. I want to ask you guys, do you like what was your set of return? Oh, well, that was part of what you were coming upon. OK, so our set of return was I would call mine brutal. OK, I would call mine brutal and it also made me go to LA. But I guess I think that's when you're like in New York fixture. Yeah, it's kind of like, oh, when I'm running up against something at this age, where it feels like my whole world is crashing and your whole world is New York, makes sense to leave New York. Yeah, you know. And so then I went to LA and it was it was making me feel better about everything. And so like when I was watching the first episode of I Love LA and it was like flashing around like I said, like, you know, the little flash at AK bar. The little like, is it leaves of grass that you shot in in that one bar? In the trees. There's no tenets. Yeah, why don't I say leaves of grass? That's so different. Tenet, I saw tenants of the trees. I was like, oh, my God, this is one of the bars that I went to when I first got there. Like it it reminded me of like not to be like this, but like LA pre covid. Yeah. And because now there's a lot about LA that's like kind of lost that thing that I felt like were so fun for me when I first got there. But I am happy to say there have been permits filed to save the arc light. Did you see this? Like the arc light might come back. I love that. And even just that is like, like I remember they closed them like an oil can. Harry's. Yeah. And I was just like, like these little things that I, you know, not in totality. It's like it feels like maybe, oh, yeah, that place left. Like, yeah. But when you lose a bunch of those things, it hurts. So it was like watching your show. I was like, oh, my God, yeah, there's like so much to love about LA. There's like, there's that spot. That's this energy. Yeah. And so that's what I like really liked about it is it was like taking me back to like a time that I was like, oh, even though it's like when you're making a show about it in LA, you're inherently dragging LA a little bit because that's what you do when you love something. Yes. It was like, it felt like the really positive, like beautiful parts of it were so present in that first. Yeah. And I think like it's I also feel like because I moved to LA during covid. So I was never there for that pre-part. And I feel like I when I first moved there, I had such a hard time and it was like everything was closed and whatever. But I feel like it's felt it's been so special to like put down roots and feel more and more at home there as like, I think new things pop up and like things like reopen or things like like the arc light or whatever or the vista. I love going to the vista and it's like that's such a little community spot now. It's like people are waiting outside to go see movies there. Like it's really, really cool. In the show, Jordan lives in WeHo, right? In the show, he goes out in WeHo a lot. He lives in Silver Lake, but he used you'll see later. He used to live in WeHo. So that comes up. So the WeHo of it all is like whenever friends come in there, like decide to move to WeHo, I'm like, OK, OK, I'm just thinking like, what do you think it is? What do you think it is? Because it's kind of like a gay theme park there for a second. Yeah. But then like any options, though. There's a lot of like yes, yes. And I'm not going to talk shit about WeHo because it's so boring. But I will say that like what was born to talk shit about. What was great about it? Yeah, it's more interesting about what was great about it when I got there. I was like going out to like high tops and like Uncennar Monica Boulevard and this was back when we had pump. Not that I was going to pump, but it was fun to see. You just wanted the option to go to pump. You could say it even as a joke. Yeah, I want the option to go to pump. It's really culture number 10. I want the option to go to pump. Yeah. And it was just like, I don't know, there was something really fun about it and then COVID happened. And that also kind of like changed it. And now it's like a lot of short girl stealing phones. We've never caught them. Never. That's me. I'm a short girl and you know I'm going to steal a phone. I'll take it. It's a legend that it's like some short girl stealing phones because the phone theft there is like really crazy. Oh, my God. But yeah, even like the WeHo of it all, like that was what I did when I first got there. Yeah. I was like interested to see what you guys explore in terms of WeHo in the show. We get there. We get to see it. Yeah. There's a WeHo moment. I feel like this is the first L.A. show in a while or maybe ever that's like actually honest about. You mean like it's even a throwaway line in the pilot where you're just like, it's really isolating here. Yeah. And I think that's just that's the sentence. That's not further to be a sentence for the show, but that is the sentence. It is. It is. I think like you can feel it's very easy. And this is something that I actually have come to love about L.A. In New York, like you go outside stuff like it's happening. It's happening. Stuff comes to you. And I think I'm someone who in my life, like not to say I was ever like a passive person, but I sort of sometimes felt like life was like taking me and making things happen and I was out of control of it. Yeah. And I think in L.A. It forces you to be a little bit more of an active member in your own life. And like not make yourself like the victim of like for a while, I was like, no one was saying that with me. No one's my friend. Like everybody hates me. It's like, bitch, text and make a plan. Make a fucking plan. Get in your car, even though you hate driving, get in the route for and go and make a plan and find your friends and build your community here. Yeah. And like, I think that changed me in like a really positive way. Yeah. Because I was so committed to like, I think I was just so stubborn and like, well, like I had I had all these rules of like, I can't go out at night because I have a dinner three days from now. And if I eat, if I drink, like so controlling of myself and I was like, never having any fun. And I think I also was like, if I want to be successful, I can't enjoy life. Like enjoyment is what happens after I achieve something. Right. And then I get to enjoy life for two days and then I have to achieve something else. And that was sort of like my mindset. And then I think like, honestly, making the show changed my mindset a lot too, because I was like, wait a second, I'm going to be working hard on this for a long time. And I remember their sweat tour was happening in LA. And it was like one of my first couple of weeks, like in the room. And I was on a walk with Molly and she was like, we have to go to sweatshore. And I was like, I know, but I just I have to be taken seriously. And I can't like, I just can't go out until like, she was like, till when I was like, until the show comes out. And she was like, in a year, she literally goes, my love, you need to experience life. You're going to be able to write stuff. You're coming to sweat tour. Best in my life. Oh, 100 percent. See, and you know, you were working and didn't come to sweat tour. I had the mirror version in New York because it was like the first day of work last season. And I was like, I can't. He texted and he was like, I don't think I can come. I was like, no, do you your energy is important? And literally that night, I remember it was like one of those things. It's like something about like Charlie and Troy and that show in particular, which was one of the best concerts I've been to unlocked. And I did it was like a weekday and I did stay out till three. Slap with somebody, woke up at his home. Perfect. And in the morning, I woke up and I said, and I was like, you were wrong not to come, but you were also right. No, I was ultimately wrong because guess what? Guess what I was doing? Literally writing an impression of Charlie XCX that was totally mid. And you're right that you did that. But it was like that was the irony of it. But I was going to say when we were announcing Oscar nom together. Oh my God. That was so fun. I love that was you two together. That was such like a love letter to like all of our friends. Sleepover. Me and Bowen call time. 3 a.m. 3 a.m. call time. I just got playing night call time. Yeah, Bowen had just flown in and we're like there with the teleprompter. Trying to say what was the name that I couldn't say? Oh wait, maybe we don't. It was a French one. No, we can say it. What was it? It was the hardest. It was the film. It was that film. Un profet. No, it was. One time I said un profet and I was like, she rocks. What was the movie? It was like something. It was like a Portuguese. No, it was Amelia Perez. Yes, because they because they were telling Rachel it has to be Perez Perez. And then as soon as they said it, do you know as soon as someone like, no, yeah, corrects you then every single time I was like, Amelia Perez. I'm Emily in Paris. I'm really Paris. And so then now when I'm at the teleprompter, I'm going. It's like you'll see it in the video. I'm like, Amelia Perez. You say it. Remember, we were watching it at home, like me and the group chat or watch the gay group chat, watching the Oscars, we're like, wow, they're slaying the pronunciation. And I remember because we were all like, how many times are we going to hear Amelia Perez and we heard it a lot. And I said it every time. I was like, can we give one to Bowen? Bowen is saying it seamlessly. Please let Bowen, can we trade? Can we trade? Please, I'm begging you. And they wouldn't like change it on the prom. No, no. And every time it was like, I would look to you before I said it. And I knew. I knew. Time is about to say, I feel like we're there right now. We're there right now. What I was going to say is you were in the room, you were in the room for L.A. Like a smack dab in the middle. And I was going to say, you were so relaxed and like it felt like I was. I just assumed, oh, is it that? No, I actually did it that night. That night I was just tired, but I felt I actually. I felt it genuine. I felt calm being with you because I do think sometimes like things get crazy. And then you see people that you knew when you were like 20 and you're like, I'm OK. I'm OK. I'm OK. Yeah. But I was going to say that like I was going to assume and this is just my bad. It's like post bottoms. It's like you would never need to prove yourself again because that is something that you fucking did. But of course it's the thing where we have where it's like, well, like we got to do it. Like here we go. We've proved ourselves, quote unquote, in ways before, but now we're like, oh, but God, I'll do it again in the next level. It never feels like enough. We need to find. We need to find self worth and and also I think like this year, I was also like, you need to find. Value in the making of the thing. Yes. And your friends and your family and your relationships because I worked on this for so long and I felt like a lot of pressure because this is the first thing that I made where it was like every step of the way is announced. And that's the way that TV works. You know, you get a pilot order, just the fact that you're writing something is announced, then that gets picked up, announced again. Yeah. Then you make go make that you edit that. Then if that doesn't get picked up, people know. Yeah, it does get picked up. Casting, people know the casting gets announced. Then you go make the show. And by the time like you're actually getting to make the show, it's like, I'm posting a TikTok of me like drinking a coffee and everyone's like, go work on your show, mama. Eww. And I'm like, no, they were right. They're 12 and they're right. What I also love was like they kept announcing like on the show. Untitled Rachel. To the point where I was like, is it called that? Because for a second I was like, I think it's called Untitled Rachel Center Project. And I think it kind of rocks. Call it, call it whatever you want to call it, because honestly, it's like at this point, I'm like, it is we still in the office will be like, yeah, for the Untitled Rachel Center show, Untitled Rachel Center show. But it's it was just I felt really vulnerable. And so I think I had to change my mindset a little of I can't punish myself. No. The entire time that I'm doing this and not live life and whatever. I see my friends and I also need to like enjoy the process of making this because it was one of the most like rewarding, creatively fulfilling things to get to do. And I was like, and I can't freak out about the pressure. I'm freaking out about the pressure now. Or like at least one week ago. But then I was like, it's okay to freak out now because it's too late. I already made it. So I can't change it. Unfortunately, pictures locked. Pictures locked. It's too late. Yeah. But it's like I think it helped, hopefully shift my mindset a little where I was like, I have to be able to. You have to find balance while you're working. Because guess what? Now I'm going to make the argument that time is linear because now going forward, you will always have had the experience of writing and starring and making your own movie and also writing and starting making your own TV show. Like that is something that no one can take away from you. And like just just go go forth with that. You know what I mean? Yeah, I'm going to I'll text you being like, hey, can you say that one more time? I think it's so it's good, though, to like, I think admit that you like are caring that much about every detail and that you are like low key punishing yourself because sometimes it can feel like whenever we're on the Internet or whatever, like perception is not always reality. Like, you know, who fucking is like one of the hardest working people ever is Charlie, but her image is I'm partying. Like Dua Lipa always on vacation. You go to her show. She's working so hard. Yeah. So it's not like I think people can get caught up in the image of things. Yeah. Not understand like how much is going into it. And like there is you can clearly find a balance because there are people that are doing it. Yeah, those people are exhausted. Yeah. But but it can be done. Yeah. Yeah. The sweat tour was literally created by someone. Sweating. Yeah. Yeah. Like solving on both in the air, fucking cigarette, sunglasses at night. Let's fucking go. But the thing is like so, so, so, so, so, so, so many hours of work. Yes. Day in and day out. Yeah. It's it's both things. Yeah. It's holding both things. It's holding both things. You know what stuck with me? I was on shrooms when I was watching Gaga do mayhem tour. Mayhem ball. She goes incredible. Incredible. I just the best. I wish I could. I missed it. Come to Tokyo. Come to Tokyo. Tokyo. Tokyo. She goes, I just want to say I care so much that you guys have a good time tonight. Love that. That is like entertainer. Yes. That's it. Yes. Exactly. And that's what it's about. It's like I want you to depending on who what who the performer is. Yeah. Yeah. But it's like I want you to laugh. I want you to get horny. I want you to cry a little bit. I want you to feel shit and I want you to have fun. Yeah. I want you to have a good fucking time. Yeah. It's it's kind of fascinating too. Because like tell me how you feel about this. But coming from like where we came from like very much like I don't know if you would identify with this like I'll just say the three words Brooklyn alt comedy. You know what I mean? Like I identify. Yeah. I think that's we said so on the Oscars announcement. We did. Yeah. We've got to call it out. But I feel like the thing that is encouraged when we were all developing was like be yourself, be authentic, share the story, go out there and say and do whatever the fuck, say that like dangerous thing, etc. And then you do get to a certain point where it becomes. Oh, are you going to say that? Are you sure? Yeah. And you're like, but that's the basis of why we did. Yeah. Yeah. Totally. It becomes this rub between authenticity and like going for it. And also it's this thing of like, I know what makes me is the messiness. And then suddenly there I am on a red carpet. And you're like, huh. And I think we all have like varying degrees of that. Yes. But that is like an interesting place to find yourself. Yeah. Because then you walk into the room where you once had a general and they're like, yeah, one sentence or else, we're forgetting about you now. You go to that same place. Here's the keys to your own fucking nice car. And we're not giving out a lot of cars. In fact, we're giving out one car. One car. You can drive it and drive it however you want. Yeah. Crash it. Crash it. But like that's a crazy change in expectation and responsibility. Yeah. Totally. Totally. It's like it's a wild thing. But I had an inverting like Shiva baby night reunion on Sunday watching I Love L.A. And then I was just stoned out of my mind. I was like, I didn't get to watch Oh Hi. And so I put on Oh Hi. I fucking loved it. Yeah. Well, Molly is amazing. Yeah. Everyone and the range that she has. Like, yeah. But that is that is a tough movie for both her and Logan to follow up where they both have this amazing amazing. I never met him, but he's he's like a starling. Darling as fuck. Yeah. Oh, what a what a nice young man. I know I love when people are nice to me too. Wait, I I also feel our group are like whole group, whatever. Like, I feel like we all graduated. I feel like there was like maybe a mental illness period to speak on behalf of myself or it felt like, oh my God, what are we doing? And now but I do feel there's like, I don't know. I feel like everyone's a lot more grounded and like we have balance and everyone's like doing their thing and it's really cool. Well, you were right, though, about the crying because I remember like like how it's like you see like people that it's just easier to cry with them because you just remind it of a more emotionally rounded thing. I remember I went to George Severus's wedding and I hadn't seen Iowan a long time and Iowan I ended up crying together on the street and I was just like about for different things. George is like for me. And then we were like, are you crying because you're happy? I was like, I think earlier. Yes, I did shed some tears because I was happy for George. But like now it's about something else. Now something else. But it's like when you reconnect with people that like, you know, you saw in a different way, it's like a lot of it is pride. A lot of it is like, wow, you know, it's crazy to think of how much has passed. A lot of it is filling people in on what's gone on. But like there is a safety and comfort there and doing it with people that like you know are good people because you've seen them and they've had a lot of the same friends for a long time, which is a huge indicator of someone being like really genuine and not having actually changed. Yes, totally. You keep your you keep your core crew. You keep your core crew. Must on a hand. And seeing like Jordan at the premiere and Benny. Yes. Just every month. Like it was just it was a perfect like Sunday was so amazing because it was like Charlie posting about like the show. Yeah, I felt so I felt so much support from friends in the community where I was like, I don't know. I think I think like I know other generations have done this, but I do feel like what I really feel like our generation, our grade, our grade has done really well. We were all in high school together is like is like actually genuinely supporting each other and like having each other's backs, which I think is like not rare, but I think it's really nice. Not a given. It's not a given. No, it's not. And I was just telling before we started that I was back in one of the theaters that we used to hang out in a lot and you can tell it's different. Things are more expensive. Yeah, certain venues are owned by like corporations. It's hard to just look things like, you know, tickets to shows are way community. Yeah, I was actually like sort of mourning that the other night after the show, having a drink with my friend Amanda, who just moved back to New York and is like, you know, it's interesting because I moved back here. Part of me was like, oh, I want to like connect to that community again. And it's harder. And we were sort of like mourning that. And then we were like, I guess it's up to us to reignite. We got to do it. Because we could all just sit back and say like, oh, isn't it a shame? Yeah. But meanwhile, that had been the one show I was out all along. Like and it does take a certain amount of energy that you, you know, of course, have less of as you get older and like can stay in and like are told by the phone to stay in or things just get easier. Yeah. But if you want to change something, you do have to be the one that changes it. Yes, totally. Like it's not it's you can be like, I wish there was more stuff for blah, blah, blah. Or you could be like, let's do it and make it happen. Like I also feel like whenever I like push myself to go out or do something or try something like that, I never regret it. No. Except for sometimes, but when you're like, I should say I'm like for the most part, you're like, OK, I need to like, especially to when you haven't seen people in a second or whatever. Were you doing the show that you went to or you just I hosted it. I hosted it. And so it was game show. It was like a show that I used to do all the time. And now I do it like twice a year. But it's like it's and it is like a community driven show. And like it's like people were there and like it felt great. Yeah. I was just saying like it just doesn't happen that much. And then nothing you feel old, but you sort of feel like, oh, did I like? Did I just grow out of what that was? Did I in some way? I don't know why the guilt creeps in, but like abandoned that. Or like, did I not do a good enough job of staying connected? But then it's like what you're saying. We were just in high school and graduated. Yes. We're at that age now where we're like, oh, yeah, back in my day. Back in my day. But the other thing too is I'm like, we show up to the open mics and we scare the kids. I know, right? It's like. Can I do three minutes? Like it's like because I also feel like there must there is definitely like a like Union Hall is still happening. Yeah, I feel like I see cool shows and stuff going on there. Yeah, which is cool. Probably the like the 20 year olds right now are listening to this. And they don't know about like, yeah, people, the bees, people, the bees, the underground swathe. So good in there. They're so old and they don't know. Like we were over the age. We're at fucking much more is like. Much, much more is just like a nice restaurant now. I walked by and there were candles on the table and I was like, this doesn't feel right. I'm telling you dirty couch. It's five dirty couch. Where is the well liquor? We need the bad shit in my car. Yes, I thought it's not a flat Brooklyn lager. Yes, it's not. It's a no. It's a job. Yeah, like literally. Oh, God, the Brooklyn. I if I could describe the taste of my 20s, it is a flat Brooklyn lager. 100 percent. Mine's a vodka crown. Vodka crown. Mines. You're going to kill me. Whiskey sour. Whiskey sour. Who the fuck was I? I love that. We were just coming off as Batman. Yeah, like I was a bourbon guy and it made me sad. Hey, hey, 20s. I'm wondering what are you going to go? No, no, no, I was going to take us in a one place. I was going to say we still didn't do you. You did your Saturn return of moving. Oh, is your Saturn return? I think this is my Saturn return. Imagine like large, big, huge pizza. OK, my Saturn return was like big dollop and it's it's still being spread out. Like I feel like my Saturn return started at twenty eight and it's kind of still going. OK, it lasts longer than people realize. Yeah, I think it also varies person to person. Do you know what I mean? I've had like beats of it. OK, like I think shooting wicked going back and forth, like having a full mental breakdown was like that was one during during the filming, during the filming, because you were filming and doing SNL. They're filming and doing SNL at the same time. That's psychotic. Well, but worth it. Worth it. Also, like in the movie, great on the show. Let's just see the little girls, the little girls. But even like even that was just like, oh, my God, like I'm basically like flying back because I'm like furniture in this movie. You know what I mean? It's like they need me in the shop because like, you know, what we shot with, you know, oh, we just we saw your elbow like last month, so you need to come back. You know, like it's that was the locus of it. I think starting SNL was like truly like dissociative. Yeah. And now as it's like slowly petering. Settling. Yes. Oh, now I'm like reflecting all of it and it's all coming back. Yes, you're processing processing. I think like. No, like I'll tell you like I'm like it's still happening. It's still happening. Crazy. No. 35. Not at all. Not at all. I think also like I think that like it could the main events could have happened. But the waves of things. Ramifications. My new favorite word. Ramifications. I love ramifications. Ramifications. I want to release an album called the ramifications of you. Just a letter you. And it's me like it's like late 90s R&B and it's me just like this and it's called the ramifications of you. Oh, my God. Wow. I love the word ramifications. I'm buying it. I'm buying. But continue. I do want I have to say it is crazy hearing you say that about Wicked because it's like I feel like you're such an important character. But when a movie is that cinematic and big and there's so many characters, I've been in stuff. Anything with like an ensemble cast. Yeah, it is so crazy because it's like you do your scenes, but so much of it is like it's like you walked backwards in through this, you're in the back of the frame and you're texting. Yeah, and then you're there for like a 15 hour day in the background like that. Yeah. And it doesn't matter who you are. Wait, you're so good. It's like it happens where you're in the scene as part of the job. So they brought the job. And by the way, it's like it's not it's it's like there are way harder things to do. Of course. But I think it's like when you get into the world of making something and then, especially when you're flying back and forth, it just messes with your head a little where you're like, wait, but what should I be doing? And then there's days where you think they need you and then they don't. And then you just start to feel a little kooky. Kooky kooky. Yeah, I am also wondering like what excuse are we going to have as we go into like our late 30s when bad shit happens to us and we're going through it? Like, this isn't my son in returns. You don't know. This is just life. This is just when we all go through our first divorces, we're going to be like, but this is just our first divorce. No, I'm saying just in theory. I really don't want to. I've never even I've never even interacted with the idea of an equivalent. First divorce. And now that it's in my head, I'm like, oh, you know what I mean? Yeah, I do know what you mean is that it's like life. I think when when you're younger, it's sort of like glamorous when things are like kind of a disaster. And then as you get older, you're like, OK, it's like there's a disaster and now I have to go to my job. You know what I mean? I think we might be less as we get older, we may be less invested in the things that would have devastated us earlier. So for example, like I was saying before we started like, oh, like there was this event and I don't think I was invited to it. And I think maybe three years ago, I would have been like, why didn't I get invited to this thing? Or I like, does it does it mean something about where I matter? Whatever. And then I'm kind of was just saying to myself, you know, Matt, you're invited to a lot of things. You probably didn't even. Did you actually want to go to this thing? The answer was no. And then I was like, also, it is a choice to spin out about something like that, which actually does not matter. Does that matter? And then I do think that the saddened return of it all is just really what it is. It's like the settling into of adulthood, the realizing that you are an adult and there is no going back into and there's that like few year period where you're filtering through what actually matters and then you land on the other side of that. And that's actually the end of the return. So we can talk about it being like planetary and whatever in astrological. But really what it is, is it's sort of like your first midlife crisis. Yeah, it's like an adulthood crisis, a crisis, which I think the millennial generation and the Gen Z generation, like all interacts within a similar way because we're given similar responsibilities and we're given similar deterrence in terms of success. Yeah. And we've all got like the internet in this way. Like they weren't we started calling it the saddened return. What it really is, is like it's a way to say like, hey, we're all like engaging with becoming adults in a way that's been different from everyone else. Yes, totally. And, you know, suddenly we're 28 and you realize you're not 25. And then you're 33 and you're realizing you're not 30. And so that's I think, you know what I mean? Like it's like it's like a quarter of a crisis. Yes, totally. You're, did I tear? Yeah. Well, occasionally. Often you dead, you dead. Because also switching to water for the first time, by the way, I realized I chugged this whole day coke and then I was like, I did see you sort of like start sipping the water about 10 minutes ago. And I saw in your eyes how thirsty you had been. I know I was like, wait a minute. I've been drinking what is this called? Aspartame. Yes. I've been which I love. I'm thinking. Thank you for inventing it. Are you good at drinking water? Uh huh. Yeah. Because I did acutane. So when I did acutane, I was drinking, I was like hooked up to an IV. Yeah. I was so dry, I would have to drink water every second I was reapplying aqua for. I was bleeding from my face. And since I did acutane, I actually like can't really drink that much. Yeah. You're still on it. No, but it changed like I used to drink so much more before acutane. And I don't know what it did damage my liver. But I can't really drink the same. Or what happens? You just get drunk very quickly or you feel sick? I get drunk pretty quickly. Like I get like buzzed off of like one drink. And I also like get hung over almost like immediately. Like it's like if I have one cocktail, it's like drunk in 15 minutes, hung over in 30. Yeah. So I'm like, is this worth it? Yeah. But I think it just I was it did something to me. It really dried me out and now I drink I have to drink a lot of water too. And I love being like if I can pee, I'll pee. It feels incredible. It feels good. It's like a free. I like any of those like like free little things that you're just. It's just nothing like it. It's a free break. Yeah. Do you can I ask? Yeah. Sometimes are you like, I wish I could just do this standing up. Peeing, standing up. Because I got to tell you, it's really nice that we have the people with the option. I sit. I love to sit down. I sit down. I sit down every now and then at home. I sit when I pee. I guess I wish I could pee standing when I'm wearing like certain outfits. Yeah. Certain outfits I have. Like it's like it's so funny when you go to like a glam event or whatever. But ultimately the bathrooms are like porter parties. Yeah. And then you're in the tiner porter party like banging on the walls and like the there's like three layers and you're like standing over it trying to pee. And it's that I'm like it's like you're slipping sliding on the floor. I'm like standing could be fabulous right now. Yeah. It's sometimes those fancy events that are the most bootleg. It's like truly being held up by sticks. Yes. But the picture is like fabulous. You would never imagine what's happening just ten feet away. Porter body. We're going to try to write a sketch this week called the bathroom awards. The bathroom. Awards. The bathroom. Awards like best best thing. I love the one thing about LA is there'll be certain restaurants where they're like and there's no rules here. Have a Mason's have but you can't take a photo in the bathroom. You know what I mean? Like have you ever interacted with this? Yes. Just like just no photos in the bathroom. What is that? I don't know. But I'm like if there's one place we should be able to take a photo. It's the bathroom. Clearly. And then I'm like do they just time, photo time, touch up time. Yes. It's it's a holy space and a good interior decor would will say the most important room to decorate in your house is the bathroom because it's where your guests will be alone. The only place you'll be alone. Boom. And they'll snoop around. I wasn't going to do so. I have a apartment in New York now and I wasn't going to do my bathroom. But then I was like, you know what? We have to do the bathroom because of that reason. And also it's just like, OK, also I have a bathroom with a bathtub. Yeah. I don't need it. I'm ripping it out. I'm doing a walk in shower and I don't care if that decreases the value of it later. My thing is just like I don't want a bathtub. I hate stepping over something. Because let me tell you what can what can and has happened. Yeah. Two people in my life. Sometimes the bathroom gets hot and sometimes you get a little bit like overheated. And then like you don't want to have to step over the bath. No. Like you got to like you need to be able to come right out. I'm going to tell you a story after this. Bathrooms are hazardous. They're dangerous. They're dangerous. And they need to be aesthetically appealing because people need to have their eyes open. Yes. Yes. Bathrooms are dangerous. They're dangerous. I totally can have a hard time in a bathroom like shower, like especially like coming home from an event or something, you're like falling in the shower. No. You've hit the J. You've hit the J. Yes. It's really basically I agree. I will say there's something so fun about like the I'm sorry. Like when I used to pass out at chorus concerts on purpose for attention. At what concerts? Chorus concerts and high school and middle school. Oh my God. You're an icon. Every single one. We're back in on this. Back in on that. And they're picking you up. You go like I'm so embarrassed. You're not embarrassed. Like I love doing that. I love. And I'm like I'm trying to think of the last time I was like at a concert. Probably crying on the plane. Yes. And you're and you're freaking out and you're like, I just wish this wasn't happening right now. Everyone goes, no. Keep passing out, pass out more. Like that's the best thing to do. I feel like the I love that you passed out at chorus. I love it. I'm seeing the rafters. I do pass it. I did once pass out on a family vacation and it was like so embarrassing. And it was like the other thing I did once on a family vacation was throw up three times in the van on the way to the airport because I was hungover. And I threw out the window, but then it blew back and blew back into my sister's window and my whole family was like my parents were like everyone. Everyone wanted to like make fun of me and my parents were like, everyone needs to be nice to Rachel for the next like hour until she feels better and then we can all shift over. That's really good. But we need to just take a second before we don't go to her because she's like she's shaking it off. Feeble and we she's in firm family management. Yes. Babe, it's Jim. Just for snowing you because I'm so busy. I can't even type right now. I'm working on that big presentation for my new launch. I'm making it on Canva mobile like you suggested. I'm just making everything iconic. It's a bit noisy, but Mark is going off. Anyways, I'm going to ping the presentation to you now so you can see what I mean. You're the mother. Got to go, hon. Thanks for introducing me to Canva. Love you. OK, speaking of dunking, we've arrived at I don't think so, honey. Oh, my God, it is the moment back in the day. We used to do 50 of these a night. Today we're going to do three. Three. It's our minute to rant and rail against something in college. And I'm turning to Bahid and I'm asking him to do the thing we said we were going to do because mine is a little bit different. Here we go. This is Matt Rogers. I don't think so. And it starts now. I don't think so, honey. Asmr. It's not that I don't like it. It's just that I don't get it. Is this sexual for you or is it like soothing? And I wonder am I even allowed to I don't think so. This or are people that love ASMR like a protected glass? No, you're OK. So then if this is true, then I'm excited to do this. Tingles, I saw Lady Gaga and Catherine Zeta Jones do this. And I was like, for something that seems kind of niche, these are two huge stars. And they were promoting Wednesday, which feels very commercial. So I guess ASMR is commercial. Are you obsessed? Like, I don't think so, honey, that I necessarily get it. I'm willing to learn. But is this something that I could have a career in because it feels like people do this like exclusively for money. And I'm just really excited to explore any word you guys think. I just don't think so, honey, that I get it. Is this horny? Is it soothing? What is it? What is ASMR? It's H and that's one minute. Boom. And we're back to normal volume. Thank God. And how did you feel about it? I feel like you once you learn the conventions, once you learn the things to do, there's you just did ASMR and a whisper, there's soft spoken. Oh, so that's like a different thing. What's so spoken like this? Soft spoken is just you're you're you're phonating and you're not fully down here in the whisper. So I was doing it like this. A lot of people have defaulted to the whisper, but Cardi B, she kind of had a viral W magazine ASMR moment. She clearly knows her stuff. OK, so she was kind of going from the whisper into the soft spoken. I feel autonomous sensory mirroring response tingles. You're into it. I love. So you love that one. I just so I wouldn't say I loved it. I was I just I just want to inform you that there is a really beautiful community out there. OK. Queen of Serene. I got a shout out Queen of Serene. The mother of all ASMR gentle whispering, Maria, she she basically invented the form. There's the woman who does the Alexander technique. She inadvertently does ASMR and that's an iconic. So you're a pro ASMR. I'm not pro. I'm an enthusiast. OK, OK. My gateway into this was Queen of Serene and Maria gentle whispering doing towel folds, OK, because she used to work as a housekeeper at a hotel. And also she does celebrity face tracing where she talks about she she traces like Natalie Portman's face and talks about what maybe she likes. Oh, it's like it's a very cute. It's not super. It is a little sexual because it has to be. Some people like do like, you know, gussie gussie up a bit. I guess my thing is like when I'm hearing someone whisper to me, yeah, I can't help but make think it's a little sexual. You know what I mean? Are you with me on that? Yeah, I agree. I see what you're saying. Yeah, it feels like it's like they're like they're keeping like it's not sexual. And I'm like, don't make me feel like a pervert. Is it or not? Because my thing is like if if they're a protected class, people who like ASMR, I will respond. Yeah, they're not. My thing is just they're not. But my thing is like I just want to understand. They're protected class. They're not. I'm here as like as an enthusiast. So you are you're one of the community and you're saying. I'm saying it's totally fine. Yeah, OK, well, I'm excited about getting into it. I don't think I could possibly get what you're getting out of it. I'm always like relax. I'm like makes me go like this. When someone whispers in my ear, like she does she does color analysis. That's the tingles. OK, she just colored analysis on celebrity. She like has like, you know, like the thick. She's really good. I mean, that's my first foray into it. I don't think that was a very good. I hope you understand. Are you ready? I'm ready. OK, this is Bowen Yang's I don't think so, honey. His time starts now. I don't think so, honey. We need to go back to buttons. This oh, this is so nice. Touch screens are are toast. They're chopped. Touch screens suck. I don't ever want to see an iPad ever again. I wanted to be a cash register on God as a child because they were pressing buttons, having a blast, beeping with the scanners. And now I'm buying four keyboards, thawking, thawking, creamy, creamy. That's ASMR for you. My girl, Maria, also does keyboard ASMR. She will slime on the keyboards and then thawk, thawk, thawk. Does that that that's that's called a thawky button. I'm talking to everybody behind the camera here. We all get it. We all my gamer guys in the room. But up in this P queens, we're going 15 seconds. iPhone, iPad, gaming, chopped. It's all about the button press on the controller because guess what? Connect, whatever, whatever, all the other camera stuff. It's not the same thing. I need to press the button to feel something. That's what I'm going to get. It's certainly more fun for myself. I'm sorry to press a button than it is to do a. That's you know what I mean? I'm like wife, I'm over it. Can I touch? Yes. Yeah, it does feel really good. Oh, nice. Right. I was saying sometimes like sometimes you're like you're that is sexual for you. This is fine. Yeah. This is the sound touch and sounds episode. Yeah, yeah. It reminds you of some of something. Yeah, of force, which we don't do anymore. I feel like we've gotten worse at fucking because we don't do we don't do that. But we don't have buttons. We don't have button literally. You think you're worse at fucking because you're not pushing it. I'm not. Light up the J and push and push. Have you been lighting up the J? I actually have. I stopped lighting up the J for a couple of years because I was getting paranoid. But then I started bringing it back. You're so back. You got it. You got it. As long as I do it with one person that I trust him. OK, just one person that you trust. Yes, because actually if I do it alone, scary to people, scary. One person that I trust safe. See, one person that I trust sometimes like like. Halfway through, you start to worry you don't trust them. Totally. You're like, who are you? Who are you? We're like one time I didn't know the person that well. And he was like, come over, we'll smoke a J. And we smoked a J and I was like, oh, we're going to fuck. I'm nervous about that. And I can't get out of my head about if we're going to fuck. No, it has to be someone that you either know you're going to fuck and you fuck them before and you're in safe space or or like best friend family. We know it's like not that. Because here's the thing. Once I smoke a J, I start. Ha, King. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I don't hold back from the truth. No, never. About any sort of I am not someone who like tells gossip. I'm like a lockbox until. But if I'm off the J off the J on the on the J, I'm just like, so it's like I need to be with someone. So there's like three people maybe that I can smoke weed around. That's that's self aware. Yeah. And if I'm alone, it's bad because I just start like I just start like I think maybe it's because I still live in the place that I live with my ex-boyfriend. But I start like picking up a fork and being like, who ate off this? Yeah, like what happened? I get freaked out by my you want the history of where it's me. So do we count as one person that you could smoke weed with? I guess we're with you guys. But maybe I could only do you guys one on one. Oh, you can't do three people. I think it's just because then I start to be like, am I talking over everyone versus am I talking like I would be like, I think I would I think it needs to be. No, Rachel, what I want when I get stoned, I go full nonverbal. He wants someone else to talk. I want someone else to talk, which is where I come in. But we would crush together. We would crush together. You guys would just probably sit and watch something. Oh, I would love. When I was talking. You would talk through. Do you remember where the opening of Shrek? Oh, my God, it's happening right now. Oh, I love it. So good. You can't wait for the opening. Yes, I love the do lock scene. It's one of the great moments in culture. She is wiping her face. It's literally it's it's actually what made Shrek a global phenomenon. Do lock is do lock is do lock is a perfect place. Wow, I really did like their key. Do you know what's crazy is that movies for children? I continually walked to them back and I'm like, this is reflecting in our culture right now. Oh, yes. Is is the government right now? And I'm like, it's haunting. Very Godmother. What is the government is the government is the government. That's a little closer number 50. What is the government? Rachel, it's time for you. I don't think so. I always feels like old times. Oh, we're back. This is Rachel said it's I don't think so. Honey, her time starts now. I don't think so. Honey driving. OK, I should not be behind the wheel sober or any time ever. And I'm taking everybody off the road. Here's what I'm cool with walking. Yeah, bikes. Let's go. Train totally fine. Here's something else. Waymos. OK. Just know. Oh, they just found out a way for cars to drive themselves. And I think that's safer because I am in Los Angeles and nobody knows how to drive. And if you want to drive in LA, the only way to drive in LA is to break the rules. If you want to drive, you have to be turning on reds. You got to be doing a left on a red if you want to drive. You got to be speeding. If you don't want to get hit from behind, you got to be texting if you want to know where to go. So you can't drive safely to drive at all. To drive safely, you have to drive dangerously in LA. I get in car accidents once a quarter and I'm sick of it. No more driving. And that's one minute. I do want to ask you about that because this is like it is like I think you were on the carpet being like, yeah, I get into an accident. Rachel. Bad ones. I just get out of the little ones. But they always happen to me because I follow the rules. Yeah, I follow the rules. And because of that, I'm always getting in. Persecuted. I put on my blinker. I look. I can't. I go. I'm entering that link and I get over there. By the way, I get stuck because people are breaking the rules. Like I said, it says don't take a left from 11 a.m. to 4 p.m. People don't care. They're taking the left on the red. So now I'm stuck behind you for 45 minutes. I need to get over to that lane because I'm late for work. I have my job. So then I'm putting on the blinker and then I go, OK, I'm going over there. And then someone speeds. Bam, they hit me. No, the aggressive people get their way on the road. I want to. And now it's technically my fault. No, you just. That happens to be on Valentine's Day. Oh, God. Yeah. But you saying to drive safely is to drive dangerously. Wow. Wow. To drive dangerously is to drive safely. Well, people have different schools have thought about this. There's like the defensive drivers who are like, I'm super careful. I'll sometimes stop at like a green like, you know, but then I'm like, yeah, but like that's that those are not the rules. Those are not the rules. The driving is not. And maybe I'm like not necessarily getting the definition of defensive driving. Right. It was ultra careful. Yeah. But which in theory, sure. But those are not the rules of the road because green means go, babe. Green does not mean slow down. Yes. Yellow means slow down. There's sort of this like in between way to drive that it's like we have the people over here and over there. It's like, look. At this point, if it's like a yellow, you need to like let the people. You need to stop. If you're going straight. If it's a yellow, you need to stop so that the people who are doing the left turn can do their left turn, but they're doing it a little bit on red. But are you guys going to speed through and take the yellow light? Well, you know, but if you're making so it depends. So I'm a little bit speed up on yellow. Well, I'm speed up on yellow too. But at a certain point, you have to stop so that the people can do a left. Of course, I think we can all make a gauge. They're going to take my license away. And no, I've done a full press tour where every day I go, I can't drive. They're taking it away. I don't want to give my license because guess what? You just like excavated the truth. But I have to ask you if a Waymo is driving, isn't a Waymo driving safely? It is. But then that's dangerous. No, but this is the thing. If it's all Waymo, then there's no problem. Then there's no problem unless the grid goes down. You thought about that? We should just walk more. I agree. I well, you know, when I first moved to LA, I was walking like from like Larchmont to WeHo. I walk everywhere. Everywhere. But you really you quickly run out of gas on that. And my friends that moved to LA now and they're like, I'm going out every night. I'm walking everywhere. I'm like, you've got three weeks on this. Yeah, I'm going to be on this. But yeah, you're certainly going to get your steps because it's not a walking city. Yeah, like you're not something that looks like a normal distance that you would have done in New York. Forget it. Two hours and you're going over and underpass and you're like, this is interesting. No. Are you driving a lot on the show? I am. That's a lot. That's that's got to be tough. It's a drive to drive to drive to drive. But we do sometimes have that thing where they put the car on the other thing and they're dragging you. Yeah. So you're just pretending to drive. That's my favorite. Yeah. And I'm like, how do you feel good about that? Like, are you just like, oh, I can totally. You give like spontaneously like this. I give I almost give not looking at the road at all. But I'm so focused on checking the blinkers as an actor that it looks like I'm not looking at the road. I'm doing like way too much action. It's like, just sit there. Yeah, just sit and deliver. I can't. I'm like this. No, you're being no, you're being really professional about it. Three minutes. Take you the box, the little whatever that thing is, the hole in between the hole. Yeah, the hole in between the two car seats that you put your stuff in. We know her holder. But you but you're doing the equivalent of like an actress going on set being like, you find out I was like opening like a bottle or something. You know what I mean? Yes, I'm guilty of that sometimes. It's so helpful. Think a prop. I've played a spaghetti. What's my business? What's my business? Making tuna sandwich. Like, say the lines. Say the fucking lines. Because now you're making a tuna sandwich for six more hours. And we're all smelling it and props to reset the tuna. You're thinking like a producer. Damn. Now I'm going in on multiple levels. Yeah, you have to. Being a Hollywood hot shop. You got to think of everything. OK, well, I love LA. It's Sundays at 10 30. By the way, we love a Sunday show. Come on, like your company. I love LA. Love. I was saying like this is the perfect. The greatest thing. It's actually hilarious. Me and Tim Robinson next to each other. When they do the photos of me getting laser hair removal next to Tim Robinson. I'm like my sister. You guys are like on the thing like this and Tim Robinson like in a suit like. And I'm like, yes. My girl. Oh, oh. We would have it. No, no, no, no. Oh my god. To say we're proud of you as patronizing, but like it's not at all. It's exactly what I want to hear. We're so proud of you. You've been fucking killing it. I love you guys so much. I literally we need to first of all hostel Scris again. You need to join the guys. I'll be back and we'll pronounce the names perfect. And I just literally a joy to see you guys. I know this is so great. I'm so happy. It's three safe people. We can all get stoned with each other. Yes. And y'all and y'all behind and y'all behind and behind. Everybody this morning, but I trust their trust worthy view of vibe. All right. Well, we end every episode with a song. I love it. I wish. And here's the thing, like it was called that and it isn't the first episode. 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