TGI – Episode 713 “The Provider"

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Listen to Mostly Human on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. we just started with the i am stuck on band-aid brand because band-aid stuck on me and you said it's a waste of brain space so what's the jingle that will forever live rent free in your head bouncing babies what's bouncing babies bouncing babies bouncing babies It was like some doll I don't know if it bounced or what I was assuming it bounced And then it went from the loop At the end I don't know that one at all And then my buddy We like to climb up a tree Kid sister I like kid sister What about 1-800 cars for kids Oh god that one What about keys keys keys Screw that person Whoever came up with that but they're genius they work because it's like it's not one eight seven seven cars like i will never not know that number i know i don't know that one k-a-r-s cars for kids what about what about the commercial for raging waters which is located where the 10 the 210 i know that forever oh my god how about oh what was the other one is um uh oh the i don't want to grow up because baby if I did I wouldn't be a Toys R Us kid. Toys R Us is like the old school one. Oh yeah, the Empire Carpet one. Everyone's now chiming in. 888-2300 Empire. Yep, uh-huh. I like the Toys R Us one. I will say I get genuinely emotional. It was great. It's like sweet and nice. Yes. How about AA? MCO. Oh yeah. AA MCO, of course. What is it like the famous, Will, do you know, wasn't there like a famous East Coast, like, got it. We never got it over here, but it was like, I'm totally going to screw this up. I can't remember what it was. It's like some, yeah, hold on. I got to look. I don't know what the reference is. I love that. I just pictured when he said, we never got it over here. I pictured like a wave, you know, of something happening. And then it just like fizzling out in the Midwest. It slowly breaks into Mississippi. Yeah. It's just like. That's what it is. The people on the other side of the Mississippi were like, keep that one. We don't want it. We don't need it. We're fine. He looks like he's frozen, but he's not. He's not. I do have the bouncing baby, if you want. You have bouncing baby? Yeah, it's a real thing. All right, let's hear it. I've never seen this. I haven't either. Look how little they are. They're so creepy. Are they preemies? In their nursery, bouncing babies can do it all. Walk, snuggle, fuss, and crawl. These actually look really cute, though. I like these. Super creepy. Those things come alive at night and kill you. I love how you remembered it perfectly. I've never even seen that. Oh, my God. I've never seen that either. Do you remember the Micro Machines guy who works? Of course. Hey, Micro Machines. Yeah, that guy was awesome. Oh, yeah. I could have taken over his job for sure. Yeah. You could have, absolutely. Easily. Yeah, I still could. Yeah, no, we had a guy also, it was Carvel Ice Cream, which is out here now, but it was just an East Coast thing. What about Blue Bunny? Is that ice cream too? That's also ice cream. But again, it's not really, you can get it at the grocery store, but it's like thought of as being the best ice cream in other places. And we just never really had a Blue Bunny thing. The Carvel guy originally would do his own ads, and he always sounded like he was sick. Oh. So he'd go like, you got to try Cookie Puss and Cookie O Puss. That's what I'm talking about. Yes. That's the one I remember. Yes. That's Carvel. It's Cookie Puss, right? What? Try Fudgy the Whale. Fudgy the Whale is going to be the best thing. That's what it was. Oh, my God. I have chills. Anytime you- Try to find original Carvel ads. They're the great- Oh, my God. And then for St. Patrick's Day, we have St. Patrick's Cookie O'Puss. You're going to love that. It's the greatest thing ever. That's what I was thinking of, Cookie Puss. That's it. Ice cream cake character created by Carvel in the 1970s. There you go. That's what I knew. I was like, it's a cookie something. And sorry, we're not going to go down the rabbit hole of the jokes of Cookie Puss and Cookie O'Puss. That's why I didn't want to say it because I was like, it's something vaguely uncomfortable with the word itself. And I was like, I don't want to say the wrong word. Exactly. It was so funny. Yeah, Cookie Puss, Cookie O' Puss, Fudgy the Whale. But he was always going to say, try Fudgy the Whale. If you don't come to the party, you're not a party. Every time you breathe, I can't come. It's the best. It sounds like they released him from the hospital just to do the ad. Are you saying that Cookie Puss and Cookie O' Puss is two different things? It is. Cookie O' Puss was for St. Patrick's Day. That's what St. Patrick's Day. Everybody celebrated Cookie O' Puss. No. It was then mint chocolate chip ice cream cookie. It was an ice cream cake. Yeah. They were the best. Let's see what happens when you Google cookie puss. Cookie puss. Oh, I can't believe you were trying to find cookie puss. That's what you were looking for. That's what I knew. I was like, but I didn't want to say it. I was like, it's like some guy who talks really weird. His search history is cooked. Yeah, exactly. I'd like to reject all cookie hole pussies, please. Are we getting sponsorship money from each one of these companies? I'm assuming we will, right? I mean, unfortunately, Galoob is no longer in business. It's not? They're now owned by Amazon. The subsidiary of Google. No, they're owned by Big Doll. Everybody knows that. It's Little Doll. This one's for Fudgy the Whale. Fudgy the Whale is back. That's a whale of a cake for Whale of a Dan. That's your participating Carmel Ice Cream Store. Yep. And this year, your Carvel dealer makes him loaded with fudge and nuts. And you can get Fudgy with an ocean to serve 20 people. But if you want to send Fudgy the Whale to a whale of a dad anywhere in the Carvel territory, you call the phone number that you see here. Thank you. And have a happy day, Dad. I mean, it just sounds like he's hungover. And that's what he was doing well there. It was towards the end where they were like wheeling him out. Is he like the owner of the company or something? I think it's Tom Carvel. Yeah, basically. It's the bad. He just comes up. Send it to your dad. I got to get thrashed. It's Valentine's Day. Send an ice cream heart to mom. Like, yeah, it was great. Those were every other ad when I grew up. It was that. And then I was like, get back to G.I. Joe. Yeah, it was awesome. Welcome to Pod Meets World. I'm Danielle Fishel. I'm Ryder Strong. And I'm 1-877-Wilfred-Dell. 1-877-Wilfred-Dell. Wilfred L. See? It's going to be in your head all day. In 2023, former Bachelor star Clayton Eckerd found himself at the center of a paternity scandal. The family court hearings that followed revealed glaring inconsistencies in her story. This began a years-long court battle to prove the truth. You doctored this particular test twice, Ms. Owens, correct? I doctored the test once. It took an army of internet detectives to crack the case. I wanted people to be able to see what their tax dollars were being used for. Sunlight's the greatest disinfectant. They would uncover a disturbing pattern. Two more men who'd been through the same thing. Greg Gillespie and Michael Marancini. My mind was blown. I'm Stephanie Young. This is Love Trap. Laura, Scottsdale Police. As the season continues, Laura Owens finally faces consequences. Ladies and gentlemen, breaking news at Americopa County as Laura Owens has been indicted on fraud charges. This isn't over until justice is served in Arizona. Listen to Love Trapped podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You know Roald Dahl, the writer who thought up Willy Wonka, Matilda, and the BFG. But did you know he was also a spy? Was this before he wrote his stories? It must have been. 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A silver .40 caliber handgun was recovered at the scene. From iHeart Podcasts and Best Case Studios, this is Rorschach, Murder at City Hall. How could this have happened in City Hall? Somebody tell me that. July 2003, Councilman James E. Davis arrives at New York City Hall with a guest. Both men are carrying concealed weapons And in less than 30 minutes Both of them will be dead Pow, pow Everybody in the chambers ducked A shocking public murder I screamed, get down, get down Those are shots, those are shots, get down A charismatic politician You know, he just bent the rules all the time I still have a weapon And I could shoot you and an outsider with a secret. He alleged he was a victim of lockdown. That may or may not have been political. That may have been about sex. Listen to Rorschach, Murder at City Hall, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to this episode of Pod Meets World. Today we are recapping season seven, episode 13, The Provider. It originally aired January 7th, 2000. We are in the 2000s. We're out of the 90s. We survived Y2K. We did. We made it. We are no longer a 90s recap show, guys. We are an aughts recap show. Everything's different. Everything changes now. I'm going to have a goatee. Oh, God. How many episodes did we have in the can by the time we finished? What do you mean? Meaning like when we wrapped as a cast, did we still have five or six left to air? Like how many had we? Well, I think we wrapped in March and I think the finale episode aired in May. So it would have been seven or eight episodes. I was curious about that. Gotcha. What did you guys do for Y2K New Year's? We had a legendary party at Redwood Shire. Like, I think all of Sebastopol came. I still have people that were like, oh, yeah, I was there that night. It started as kind of just like we made flyers and it was like, oh, we're going to all get dressed up in really nice outfits, like suits. and we rented tents and set them up and we had a DJ. And I think we were imagining like 50 to 100 people of friends. And then we even said like, anyone can stay over. And like basically the entire town of Sebastopol found out about it. And like cars were just pulling up all throughout. It went until like five or six in the morning. I remember my parents just like went to bed. They were there and they just went to bed. And then, yeah, like a window got broken. sounds like red weather material yeah I'm telling you everything was okay like I mean it worked out like it was a great party like it was super fun but yeah I remember it getting like crazy out of hand at one point just being like wow there are so many people here yeah so there's there's a lot of people out there who probably have memories of being at my my property that I don't haven't even met them yeah it was great what did you do Will? I was in my prepper shelter surrounded by MRE's rifles and clean water as everyone should have been no i honestly have no memory whatsoever of what i did on one are you serious i don't i think you just stayed home and like just didn't celebrate or no i mean maybe again this is like kind of peak anxiety or right right towards beginning of anxiety so knowing me i probably didn't do much of anything but maybe i did something with marzen i honestly have no memory of it whatsoever i really don't wow what's so weird to me is that in my mind it was after boy meets world ended but this was like in the middle of our season yeah but i must have just already known that we were ending. Cause in my mind I was like moving on. Like I was ready to go. I was probably already, no, I guess I probably hadn't, I was applying to colleges in New York. So I already knew I was going there if I got in. Um, so I, yeah, I was just like, so in a different mindset. And as you can tell from my performance this entire season, I was not there. Well, and after talking to Manel, I actually feel better about it because even for them, it sounds like everyone knew, we all knew that this was the last season and they, everyone had just kind of given up. It was giant senioritis. This whole season was giant senioritis. And I was going to make fun of you, Ryder, for neither Danielle and I being at this awesome party, but knowing you, I'm sure you invited all of us. No. I bet you. I bet you you did. Yes, I did. Yes, I did. I bet you you did. I bet you you did. You probably did. Because, Danielle, you would have already been up to Redwoodshire. Both of you would have. Yeah. You've been there, right? You would have not been there. No? I don't think you had been there. Because it was after, yeah, I was living in New York when you came, because my friend Alyssa was there when you finally came to Redwoodshire, so it would have been like 2001. It would have been later this year, 2001, so you had never been there. Danielle, you had been there for when we shot Grinders and been there for a meadow party and rope swinging that time. So I probably would have invited you, or maybe not. I don't know. Every time I hear Grinders, I just really wish you guys had done a video about making really good sandwiches. I know. That would have been the best. Hogies and Grinders. Oh, yeah. I'd still watch that. I'd still watch that. Wait, you didn't answer. What did you do? oh i was in hawaii with n'sync and britney spears oh that's about right you didn't want to come to the redwoods and like i mean i do a keg stand i would have loved she did it's just with britney spears well you were dating lance no you know lance and i had broken up but i was still really hoping that we were going to get back together i i'd still hold out hope yeah Was it an actual concert or just a, just a, just hanging out? They were performing. No, they were performing. Not, I don't think, not on New Year's Eve, but they did have a concert there. And then I think it was like maybe the 29th or something. And then we all just stayed. And yeah, it was really, really fun. That's the, that's the trip where Brittany got her belly button pierced. We all, everyone wanted to get their belly buttons pierced. And so we all went as a group. All the girls went as a group. All the guys went as a group and got tattoos and all the girls went as a group and got belly button piercings. But I already had a belly button piercing. So I was like, well, this is kind of a bummer. What am I going to do? And so I got my tongue pierced. My mom was furious. My plan all along was that I was just, I just wanted to know what it felt like. And then I took it out. Oh my God. And so, but my mom had only let me get my belly button pierced when I was either 15 or 16. I was maybe 15 and a half or something. And the whole thing was, she was like, cause I had already been talking about at 15 wanting to get my tongue pierced. And she was like, absolutely not. I will let you get your belly button pierced. If you promise me that you'll never get your tongue pierced. And I was like, deal. I didn't think having it pierced and then taking it out counted. Like immediately you took it out later that day. It was the same day. why would you go through the pain of that just to take it out well i had heard it didn't hurt so i was curious i was like oh they say it doesn't hurt and it doesn't feels like absolutely nothing you don't feel a single thing shocking are you serious you bite your tongue it's horrifying so bad this is like through the middle of your tongue and the best way i know how to describe it is so uncomfortable jesus me too it feels like a hot knife going through butter oh just nothing no pain no pain like a real like hot just nothing didn't feel anything um and and anyway then when i told my mom i just i got i have one picture of me with a tongue ring and uh when i told my mom i had done it she was like you went back on our day yeah you betrayed me yeah yeah and i didn't mean to betray her i really truly thought it didn't count but she says no well obviously because you even you told her you could have just not told her right because i didn't i didn't think anything of it. I was just like, yeah. And then of course I took it out. I thought she just like, didn't to me, what I thought she cared about is that I walked around in the universe with a pierced tongue. You know, like I don't want you existing in this world. It's a weird acting thing. Like, do you think if you would come back and had a tongue piercing, it would have affected Boy Meets World? Like, could you, could you tell? She couldn't have said son. Come on, son. I don't think it affects your speech. It does somewhat. It does at first. My ex-girlfriend had one in it. Yeah, at first. Because your tongue is swollen later. And so it does, And kissing scenes with Corey would have been... No, I wouldn't have been able to keep it. Michael would have... Lost his mind. Lost his mind. Whereas piercings and tattoos and stuff like that, you can kind of see if they took original Topanga to her more extreme. That could easily have been a way that Topanga would have gone. Yeah, totally. It's kind of like almost emo, but like earthy emo. You can totally see that for Topanga. For sure. Okay, the synopsis. Corey and Topanga have their first fight. Nope. Seen a bunch of them. And Eric finds a lucky Penny. This was Penny. I had no idea. I had no idea. Really? I had no idea. None whatsoever. I was like, oh my god, this is Penny. Yeah. Wait, so you remembered something about Penny? Oh, I remember the entire storyline once I saw that this was Penny, but I had not remembered that this episode was Penny. The provider was Penny. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You called it Penny, huh? Yeah. Well, that's what this episode was in my head, was this is the Eric Penny episode. Eric Penny, yeah, yeah. It was directed by Lynn M. McCracken. Yay. Our beloved Lynn. Oh, cool, I didn't notice that. That's awesome. Yes, written by Jeff Minnell. So two of our faves. Yeah. Before I jump into our guest stars, do we want to share our overall thoughts? Well, I have an audio clip to share. I love it. Because Indie Strong watched an episode of Boy Meets World for the first time in years. And we decided to do a Too Much Shirts. So, Tara, can we pull up the Too Much Shirts? Want to tell me what you thought? I thought that it was weird that Topanga and the Corey guy, right? Yeah, that's his name? Yeah. That they were married at 18? Yeah. What is this? Yeah, you skipped a lot. But what happened? They got married. Was there a wedding? Yep. So I guess you haven't seen anything since, like, I don't know. I feel like you dropped in on a season five episode at one point and said nothing funny is happening. This episode was weird. Why? I don't know. I liked the lucky penny idea. Yeah. That was funny. Will was pretty funny. Mm-hmm. And the lightning. But then it was weird how they said it was their first fight because they have a fight every episode. That is, I thought the same thing. They said that one time and I was like, oh, but then they say it like three times in the episode. Yeah. And you know that they fight every episode even though you haven't watched anything since season two. Yeah. It just doesn't make sense. It always ends with like a lesson, right? Yeah. But then they make it so weird because now that there's seven seasons, it gets so complicated. And the lessons are like, don't go looking in your dirty couch. And the whole season is like about that one lesson. Did you ever think they would not get back together? Yeah, I thought she was not going to be there in the house. Oh, that's cool. I thought it was going to be like, oh no. And there was going to be another wedding. Where they were actually appropriately aged. So I think what he's getting at, you know, it's just so convoluted, the lesson. Like, I don't know what, I honestly, like even thinking about it now, I still can't remember. What did Cory and Topanga learn? That they have to learn how to fight? I guess that there's a healthy way to fight. Okay. But what is that healthy way? Because, like, I don't know. No, I didn't. It's that Topanga should stop being so good at things because it makes Corey feel bad about himself. Which is where we started. Like, nothing. No. Yeah, it's so. Yeah, anyway. The fact that he was just as confused as I was and kind of bored by the ending. but like the Lucky Penny storyline, which I agree. That was funny. That was fun. I would have liked for something to happen in the Lucky Penny storyline. Whoa. You know, like he has this Lucky Penny and then I really did try to work out how the football player storyline- Was going to play in? Was going to play into the Lucky Penny other than the idea that I guess, I don't know, we can talk about it when we get to it. But I like the Lucky Penny storyline too. I just wish there was more to it that there was actually like something that really happens not just that something bad happens when he doesn have the penny which was very cute What did you think Will I don know Okay Again, a lot of it's just everybody's, they're phoning in the storylines. It's clearly not Corey. People have watched seven years of Corey and Topanga fight. Why write a line, this is our first fight? Why not? You can just repeat it. This is our first fight as a married couple. Or this is our first public fight. You know, when they have the fight in the college. But they do that all the time. They fight all the time. I know. It's like they don't watch their own show. They're just, one of you said this. I don't know who it was. I was listening to an older episode for a whole other reason. But one of you said, and I can't remember who, it seems like season seven was just for let's let people who didn't get a chance to write, write. And let's get people who didn't get a chance to direct, direct. And we were just kind of the puppets of, hey, let's start a whole bunch of people's careers. It's going to be rough going, but you guys make the best of whatever we give you. That's kind of what it seems like to me. And so when I watched this episode, I had fun watching this episode as an actor and as Will Friedle because I see myself trying to break you, Ryder. I actually broke Ben at the end. You broke Ben. So for me as a person watching, I'm like, wow, this is a lot of fun. As a television fan, I don't know what the fuck is happening. Yeah, yeah. To me, the problem is the resolution. Because actually, I think the first half, I'm willing to accept that like, oh, we live in a world where this is the first fight. you know and just taking out the rest of that sentence which as a married couple fine but man i just that the whole like second half of this episode is that montage of conversations in the in the the the apartment and i just don't know what they're talking about i'm literally like we're reiterating the same points we're swapping points of views for moments it just wasn't funny it wasn't i was just like i don't know what this this is and then it was like oh and now we're going to work together to sell a magazine okay yeah but danielle do you i i already know the answer to this before i ask but do you remember was the original scene at the end one long fight that you guys shot or did you shoot little vignettes like that to then be edited together like it's a montage of a fight i think it was little vignettes yeah i think we shot it as like individual little scenes okay yeah i don't i i mean i agree with everything you're saying don't I don't really know what the point was. I couldn't stand the fact that Topanga just all of a sudden breaks down in tears and says, I've broken your spirit. Yep. Even though all he says is because you're so good at things, you make me feel bad. Well, no, I don't do that. You feel bad. Right. Because you're not. You're insecure. Yeah. That has nothing to do with me. That's all it is, is you're insecure. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And it seems to me the resolution is that Corey's just got to get over himself. You know, like, it's pretty basic. Like, and which is great because it's, there is, this is a storyline that's true to Corey, right? Like, it's the average Corey. It's like, and he's spinning his wheels and he has to learn to just deal with that. And the fact that, no, Topanga's got to, like, somehow work with the fact that she's married to this average guy and that he's going to moan about that. And that's, like, part of being married. It's like, no, just stop moaning. dude yeah like when you marry an extraordinary person this is somebody you've known for your entire life and they've clearly made Topanga good at everything she does you can't all of a sudden be shocked that that she's then good at everything she does I mean that's part of her character that being said the start of the fight I blame Topanga because at the very beginning because she wouldn't leave him alone yeah Corey says if you listen to your partner and if your partner's like look I'm in a mood and I just don't want to do this right now then walk away 100% right 100% Other than that, it's completely on him. I don't want to say something I regret. And she's like, now, now, now, now. I agree with you. You have to say, okay, I just want you to know I'm here. Whenever you are ready to talk about it, please come to me. Love you. Take whatever time you need. Yeah. Other than that, it's 100% on him. Yeah. Jumping into our guest stars, we have Brandon Malale. I think that's how you say his name. Either that or it's Malale. As Rocco. Oh, God, I thought you were going to go for the joke and say, or it's Brandon. didn't well i'm not as quick as you sorry as rocco boy meets world was an early stop for brain don't but over the past 25 years he's been in a ton of stuff ton yes recognize him instantly yes he's been in movies like dodgeball the longest yard or mr deeds or tv shows like i carly agents of shield or Reno 911. We have Ivory Hunter as football player number one and John Knight as football player number two. He only acted for a few years in the late 90s, early 2000s, but you still may have seen him on a few popular shows, Sabrina, Buffy, The Steve Harvey Show and Hangtime. His last credit was in 2001. in 2023 former bachelor star clayton eckard found himself at the center of a paternity scandal the family court hearings that followed revealed glaring inconsistencies in her story this began a years-long court battle to prove the truth you doctored this particular test twice and so on, correct? I doctored the test ones. It took an army of internet detectives to crack the case. I wanted people to be able to see what their tax dollars were being used for. Sunlight's the greatest disinfectant. They would uncover a disturbing pattern. Two more men who'd been through the same thing. Greg Gillespie and Michael Marancini. My mind was blown. I'm Stephanie Young. This is Love Trap. Laura, Scottsdale Police. As the season continues, Laura Owens finally faces consequences. Ladies and gentlemen, breaking news at Americopa County as Laura Owens has been indicted on fraud charges. This isn't over until justice is served in Arizona. Listen to Love Trapped podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You know Roald Dahl, the writer who thought up Willy Wonka, Matilda, and the BFG. But did you know he was also a spy? Was this before he wrote his stories? It must have been. Our new podcast series, The Secret World of Roald Dahl, is a wild journey through the hidden chapters of his extraordinary, controversial life. His job was literally to seduce the wives of powerful Americans. What? And he was really good at it. You probably won't believe it either. Okay, I don't think that's true. I'm telling you. The guy was a spy. Did you know Dahl got cozy with the Roosevelt's, played poker with Harry Truman, and had a long affair with a congresswoman? And then he took his talents to Hollywood, where he worked alongside Walt Disney and Alfred Hitchcock, before writing a hit James Bond film. How did this secret agent wind up as the most successful children's author ever? And what darkness from his covert past seeped into the stories we read as kids? The true story is stranger than anything he ever wrote. Listen to The Secret World of Roald Dahl on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Why hasn't a woman formally participated in a Formula One race weekend in over a decade? Think about how many skills they have to develop at such a young age. What can we learn from all of the new F1 romance novels suddenly popping up every year? He still smelled of podium champagne and expensive friction. And how did a 2023 event called Wagageddon change the paddock forever? That day is just seared into my memory. I'm culture writer and F1 expert Lily Herman, and these are just a few of the questions I'm tackling on No Grip, a Formula One culture podcast that dives into the underexplored pockets of the sport. In each episode, a different guest and I will go deeper into the wacky mishaps, scandals, and sagas, both on the track and far away from it, that have made F1 a delightful, decadent dumpster fire for more than 75 years. Listen to No Grip on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Laurie Siegel, a longtime tech journalist. And consider my new podcast, Mostly Human, your bridge to the future. Anyone can now be an entrepreneur. Anyone can build an app. And it's very empowering. Each week, I'll speak to the people building that future. And we're going to break down what all of this innovation actually means for you. What I come to realize is that when people think that they're dating this AI companion, they're actually dating the companies that create this. We're experiencing one of the greatest tech accelerations in human history. And let's be honest, that can be messy. There's no playbook for what to do when an AI model hallucinates a story about you. But it's my belief that we should all benefit from this moment. Mostly Human will show you how. My goal is to give you the playbook so you can benefit. The reason I say agency is because like if we can give power back to people, then I think that's probably the best thing we can do for your mental health. Listen to Mostly Human on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. So jumping into our recap, we start in the student union. Corey waltzes up to Sean with a huge grin on his face. You'll never guess. Sean immediately blurts out Topanga's pregnant. Corey is shocked. She is. Why'd she tell you and not me? Are you the father of my child? Writer's face. Well, it's all we're all full on what here. So I came up or figured out something. Writer, Sean hasn't changed all that much. We're all doing caricatures around what you used to do with Sean, which makes you seem like you're really mellow and phoning it in when really it's all like Ben doing are you the father of my child and I'm doing this huge stuff go back and watch Sean from season 3 you're essentially doing the same thing but it doesn't look like that because we're all ramping everything to 11 you're the only grounded human being exactly so it's when you've got Ben doing this it's crazy I actually did feel good about the scene with me and Ben later on the couch It was great because you're playing it real. I'm actually listening to him and talking to him. And I was like, oh, okay. I was. Yeah, that's true. That's fine. But this, I feel, it's whenever Sean is doing like a bit with Corey that I'm a little like, like all, I don't know. I just, I hate these. I get so uncomfortable when I realize it's because I felt like I was being pressured to do zingers. Like when I do, and I just didn't have the energy for it. You can see it in my face. I'm like half ironically like, oh, Corey. Yeah. But then I just sort of had this sense of like, do we really have to do this? You know? Well, but like Will said, a large extent of that is that you're playing opposite a very broad version of someone who had been your best friend this whole time. Yes, right. So like a new, and so you're like, oh, I guess I have to interact differently with you. Exactly. It's a weird energy though. It doesn't, yeah. It's like, I should have just matched his energy, right? Like, I don't know. Or maybe Sean should have been written to match the energy in a little better way or, you know, like had my own character. Instead, I'm just the sounding board. Or even if there was an acknowledgement that you were that you guys were about to do a bit. We're like, oh, I love this game. Yeah. Oh, what? You know, something. But instead, you are you are a grounded character playing opposite. Oh, Michael Jacobs. Right. And you're like, OK. So that's a really good point. We're all kind of going, let's see how far we can push it until the network literally comes and just takes the furniture. Get out of here. Hooks pull us off stage. Exactly. That's what it seems like. Sean reminds him, hey, idiot, you had news. Corey takes a seat. I got a job. Sean congratulates him, but Corey dares him. Ask me what my hours are. Go ahead. Sean obliges and Corey happily answers. It's up to me. Now ask me who I work for. Sean continues to play along. You know what I wonder? Who do you work for? Corey happily answers, me. I work for me. My boss is Mr. Me. It's all me. Isn't that great? Sean admits he wouldn't like it, but it's great for Corey. Now, was that line supposed to be that you wouldn't like it if Corey was your boss? Or you wouldn't like being your own boss? I, yeah, I don't know. I think it was Corey. I think it's like, yeah, that's what I thought too. You wouldn't like it if Corey was your boss. Because I'm like, Sean would love to be his own boss. Sean only wants jobs where he gets creative freedom. And, you know, so anyway, okay. As a poet photographer. Yes, exactly. But also business person, remember? Well, business poet photographer in the mafia. Yeah, assistant. In the mafia. Corey agrees. And I can make between $405,000 a month. Sean knows this isn't good. Oh, no. But Corey continues, you see, I'm the lord of my castle. And as the lord, I think it's up to me to provide. And it's up to Topanga to be my grateful French chambermaid, Fifi Le Bonza. Yep. So when he presented this idea, I thought, oh, I like this idea that we're going to have an episode where Corey has to come to terms with being uncomfortable not being the breadwinner. Wouldn't that be great? Wouldn't that be great? That would have been a good story. That's the lesson. But that would be the lesson. Of course. Hey, Corey, I'm the one who's going to make the money and I can do this. And, you know, I'm not going to be waiting at home. And instead it's like, no, I'm also going to have to be waiting at home and helping you with your job and be the breadwinner. Also, wouldn't it be great for Topanga and her character development to say, just because I didn't go to Yale doesn't mean I'm still not going to be a successful lawyer. the i've got i've got all i've got all this great potential and i'm working hard toward it and i don't need yale i i can be successful anywhere if that was who topanga was because why would she ever have stopped being that way instead of being like on a bus randomly getting offered a job and then being like i'll take it why isn't she why where well who is this character that isn't like anyway so i thought at first oh great and then yeah and then not no that's not what happens And then not. So Sean asks, you haven't actually said any of this to Topanga, have you? Corey admits he hasn't. This is just crap floating around in my head. But that's the beauty of marriage. That's the golden nugget. Nobody has to know nothing. Just then, Topanga arrives with a pep in her step. I have news. Corey jumps in, too. I have news. What is this outfit I'm wearing? Oh, the giant coat they put you in? They put you in a giant coat. It's a jacket that has a hood that's fake leather and also is kind of the fake, is it vegan leather that Maitland is wearing later? We have the ugliest jackets on in this episode. It's hideous. And you're wearing like a rock and roll shirt kind of vibe. Oh no, it's not rock and roll. What is it? It's very yoga. Yeah. It's a little hippie Topanga. It's a little like yoga thing in the middle. And I have my, which of course they touched it up with like a curling iron, but it's mostly my natural waves. Like that's my naturally kind of curly hair. I saw this jacket and I was like, what is this? Can't act in a jacket? Can't act in a jacket. But it's also four sizes too big. It's disgusting. Just would like to say that. It's absolutely disgusting. So you didn't buy that one when the show ended, I take it. Did not. Did not. So she asks me first. He answers like always. And she begins to tell her story. She took the train downtown to look at some shoes. not to buy, just to look at. And she was sitting next to a woman who was looking at fashion photos. So Topanga. And Topanga commented, oh, I love that outfit. And the woman agreed. All I could think of was Devil Wears Prada. Yeah. No one would offer Topanga a job in this outfit for fashion. No one would look at Topanga and go, you've got an eye. She's got style. No, they would be like, ma'am, this is an Arby's. But also of all of the things to celebrate about Topanga. that she has fashion sense and that she's going to become a fashion person no the point is she's always been out of step with culture and like interestingly progressive and her own marching to her own drummer there's like a million she could be you know she could have solved a problem that somebody was having I thought about it there's an argument that happens on the train that she mediates and argues down the one guy a lawyer's on the train goes oh my god that's amazing I want you as an intern super simple but we're going to celebrate the fact that she's a fashion person now? No, no. It's like, it's so random and- And she's so happy to do it. She's like, I'm so happy to be there. It's frankly, it's completely sexist. It's sexist and insulting. This episode is so sexist. Yes, it's just like, what can we celebrate about this female character that can threaten him without actually threatening him? And it's like, because if she were actually doing something like really sophisticated and hard, he would have no argument, right? But instead he can demean it because her job is superficial and it's about looks. Right, right. So her success is about that, right? And I really do think, even if we say, taking out the sexism aspect of it, the idea that if Topanga were doing something like interning at a law firm, and she got the job because of her brain and her skill, Corey taking a job as a magazine salesperson from home would make him, would to the audience. Yes. Make it seem like, what is this woman doing with this guy? Right. And they, at all costs, they can't make Corey look like that. Protect the boy. Right. Yeah. Right. Topanga commented, oh, I love that outfit. And the woman agreed. The woman turned out to be the editor for a fashion magazine and they hit it off so well that she offered her a job. Topanga is now her assistant. Corey stares in disbelief. Without any emotion, he musters out, I'm really very proud of you. Topanga is still smiling when she shifts to his news. He says, I got a job too. Topanga jumps up with excitement. That's great. We're a two income family. Tell me everything. What's the job? So he begins his story. He's walking down the street when a flyer with dollar signs on it catches his eye. So he called the number. Topanga applauds his initiative and Corey announces, now I'm an entrepreneur. But she's still confused. What exactly are you doing, sweetie? He boasts selling magazine subscriptions over the phone. A deflated Topanga lets out a half-hearted, oh, Sean suggests that she try again. So she tries a more excited, clearly fake. Oh, this is a funny, this was a good runner. I liked it. Unmotivated, but a good runner. Yes. Corey brags, I can wear what I want, go to the bathroom when I want. I can eat lunch when I want, and I can make as much as I choose between 400 and 5,000 a month. I choose 5,000, thank you. Topanga asks, so where are you working? Where are your offices? Corey brags, in our living room. Topanga lets out another unenthusiastic O and Sean nudges her to try again. She tries, but can only muster up another disappointed O and Sean notes, not as good. This made me laugh because now everybody works from home. Yeah. And at the time it doesn't at all have, yeah, to say like, oh no, I get to work from home. It's the polar opposite response. Oh, that's amazing. back then you were working from home it really said something about you so true i also love how he was raised by alan who was in the military first because he wanted to get a better lease on life then ran the grocery store then opened his own business but has no work ethic of his own none you don't realize to just go and get a job go get a job at arby's go get a get a job at donalds go i don't think so cory's never had a job we never did an episode about cory getting a journalism. You know, him having like school, you know, those were school projects. So there's him running around the camera. And then Eric got a job at the local place. And also worked for his parents. Yes. Eric worked at the store. Corey's never had a job. As far as we know, Corey's never had a job. He's been babied his entire life. His entire life. And then he went from his parents' house to living with Topanga and now allowing her to take care of him. Yeah, pretty much. Wow. Well, he still thinks salami just magically appears in the refrigerator. Of course, he got married. We go to a commercial break and we return to the student union. While cleaning, Eric sniffs a customer who we only see from behind and is a redhead. So I assumed it was Maitland. No, no, no. What I do is I looked. So if I went back and watch it, I walk past her. I see something on her shoulder and I spit clean it. I know. On her shoulder. But we only, we don't see her face until the very end when she turns and looks at you. But it's a redheaded woman that you're doing your spit cleaning. And so I'm like, oh, it's Rachel. And then it's not Rachel. Did you discover this in rehearsal? I'm sure. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm sure I went up to her and said, excuse me, can I spit something off of your shoulder kind of thing? Yeah. There's no way they were like, Eric is spit cleaning a background actor's shoulder. He sniffs a customer. Okay. So you wipe her down and then notice something on the floor. He circles it for a second, then picks it up. Hey, look, a penny. Jack examines the coin. Was it heads up? Eric needs clarification. Is that the side with the head on it? Jack nods and Eric reveals, it was heads up. Jack lets him know, you, my friend, are the proud owner of a lucky penny. Eric begins to freak out. Really? He's never had one before. What are the rules? Jack laughs. It's only a superstition, but Eric insists. No, I felt something the second I touched this penny. Jack grabs him and wonders, Why can you never just react like a normal person? And unaffected Eric holds the penny in the air and screams, I am lucky. Rachel walks up and wonders what's going on. And Eric graciously asks if she'd like to see his lucky penny. He offers it to her, but then instantly pulls it back and screams, no, my lucky penny. Just big, just be big. Say him loud, say him fast, be big. I do feel like I watched this episode for you and thought, they just said, you have a lucky penny, go. Yep. Pretty much. Oh, that's it. You found a lucky penny. B go do something, say things, whatever you want. And we will not in any way, create story for you. It's just whatever you want to do with this knowledge that you have a lucky penny around your neck. We will accept. Yeah. You know what I did not hear once this season as a note was maybe pull it back. Never, never, never got that note. Never got that. I got bigger shirts. Let's get them in a bigger shirt. if possible. Can we pull the camera back to get them all on camera? I got that. But never, hey, Will, maybe tone it down. But you know what's great, man, is that having seen the pilot and I don't think, Danielle, you didn't do the recap with us of the show that Will did after. It was the Random Years? Is that what it was called? Yeah. You were so subtle in that show. Yeah, yeah. So like it was clearly within this context that you were going crazy. Yeah. And you adjusted. You know, when you got into a different thing, a different setting, you adjusted like perfectly. So it's a tribute. It's a credit to you. It's not like you were. I appreciate it. You were going off the rails because that was the only place to go. When you're mid-car crash, you just let go of that. Let go, let God. See what happens as the car rolls over. Jesus, take the wheel. Exactly. She sarcastically responds, wow, this must be your lucky day, Eric. Eric corrects her. No, no, no, no, no. Not my lucky day. My lucky life. She admits it is a nice penny, and this immediately sets him off. He squints his eyes with intensity. I see what you're trying to do. You're trying to seduce me for my penny. Rachel scoffs. You caught me. I'm hot for your penny. Eric scolds her. Evil temptress. Rachel plays along. Well, that's me. If you had a nickel, I'd probably marry you. She caresses his face and sexually pleads with him. That's how badly I want you. This is her storyline for the week. Yeah. Which was better than Trina's, who literally just sits there with their mouth open like, wow, I can't believe this conversation's happening. That's it. And Rusty and Betsy, who are, and Bill. Rusty, Betsy, and Bill all have finals this week. I know. A startled Eric puts his hand in Jack's direction and begs, dude, give me a nickel. Which is funny, but it's also just, I just like still trying to get Rachel. We're still on this. I'm like, this is really like, still on this thing. Yep. That's it though. That's their entire storyline was that conversation. Again, talking about the sexism. that in this episode, the women all were put in positions that are like, okay, Eric assumes it's because he's got a penny and she plays into it. Oh, and if you had five cents, I'd, I want you. That's her role. Angela's role is literally just, hey, what's going on with your lucky penny? And, and, and looking off in weird directions. And Topanga has been relegated to some fashion assistant, even though that's never been an interest of hers at all. And, and then also just realizing apparently that because she is good at things, it has broken Corey's spirit and she doesn't want to do that. Yeah They playing a lot of tennis this week Last couple of weeks It been a lot of tennis A lot of tennis Yeah a lot of tennis going on In 2023, former Bachelor star Clayton Eckerd found himself at the center of a paternity scandal. The family court hearings that followed revealed glaring inconsistencies in her story. This began a years-long court battle to prove the truth. You doctored this particular test twice in so-and-so, correct? I doctored the test once. It took an army of internet detectives to crack the case. I wanted people to be able to see what their tax dollars were being used for. Sunlight's the greatest disinfectant. They would uncover a disturbing pattern. Two more men who'd been through the same thing. Greg Gillespie and Michael Marancini. My mind was blown. I'm Stephanie Young. This is Love Trap. Laura, Scottsdale Police. As the season continues, Laura Owens finally faces consequences. Ladies and gentlemen, breaking news out of Maricopa County as Laura Owens has been indicted on fraud charges. This isn't over until justice is served in Arizona. Listen to Love Trapped podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You know Roald Dahl, the writer who thought up Willy Wonka, Matilda, and the BFG. But did you know he was also a spy? Was this before he wrote his stories? It must have been. Our new podcast series, The Secret World of Roald Dahl, is a wild journey through the hidden chapters of his extraordinary, controversial life. His job was literally to seduce the wives of powerful Americans. What? And he was really good at it. You probably won't believe it either. Okay, I don't think that's true. I'm telling you, the guy was a spy. Did you know Dahl got cozy with the Roosevelt's? Played poker with Harry Truman? and had a long affair with a congresswoman. And then he took his talents to Hollywood, where he worked alongside Walt Disney and Alfred Hitchcock before writing a hit James Bond film. How did this secret agent wind up as the most successful children's author ever? And what darkness from his covert past seeped into the stories we read as kids? The true story is stranger than anything he ever wrote. Listen to The Secret World of Roald Dahl on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Why hasn't a woman formally participated in a Formula One race weekend in over a decade? Think about how many skills they have to develop at such a young age. What can we learn from all of the new F1 romance novels suddenly popping up every year? He still smelled of podium champagne and expensive friction. And how did a 2023 event called Wagageddon change the paddock forever? That day is just seared into my memory. I'm culture writer and F1 expert Lily Herman, and these are just a few of the questions I'm tackling on No Grip, a Formula One culture podcast that dives into the underexplored pockets of the sport. In each episode, a different guest and I will go deeper into the wacky mishaps, scandals and sagas, both on the track and far away from it, that have made F1 a delightful, decadent dumpster fire for more than 75 years. 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Listen to Flagrant and Funny with Keri Champion and Jamel Hill on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Corey is slouched on the couch, wearing a white headset and robotically talking to a person on the other end of the line. Is this Mr. Leon Shinazi? Can you read? Good for you, because I'm going to read you our list of magazines. He explains there are 700 magazines, so don't hang up before he finishes the list because he doesn't like it and it's mean to him. And so he starts, ready? Here we go. Aardvark. He flips the page for the next title, but before he can spit it out, the customer hangs up. He furiously calls back. It's one title a page? I know. They just wrote aardvark on one page and then you got to go to the next one? No, no, that was just bad. whatever the version of uh of phone acting yeah it's acting it's bad acting it was he furiously calls back and when he answers cory reminds him i told you not to do that this was this was funny to me it's just yeah it's not cory at all but it's so ben i know that i love it i do love the idea of him being like um cable guy yeah yeah where he's like a psycho phone yeah and is that Is that a real thing that he has? Is that like a consumer phone thing? I'm assuming that's how it used to be. Wow. This dial pad connected. Yeah, the headset dial pad thing. But the dial pad thing was crazy. Yeah. I told you not to do that, Shinozzi. Now we're going to have to start all over again. Here we go. Aardvark. And I just got to say, the names in Boy Meets World are so good. Like Michael has such an ear for which names are funny. and you know all the way back to Feeney and Topanga and Sean Hunter everybody's name just reflects like a quality that just is perfect and like do you remember the amount of attention Michael gave to names when we did Girl Meets World yeah yeah and hopefully so because I think it's brilliant I think it's truly like you have an ear or you don't and he has the ear for names and he's so good it's like it's just an understanding of language you know like that quality and like this whole bit It doesn't work unless you have the name Shanazi. Yeah. There's something about Shanazi. If it's Reynolds, it doesn't work. Oh my God, there's nothing funny. Yeah, yeah. It's not funny. It's musical language. It's perfect. It's just brilliant. You're right. And again, the man hangs up. So Corey calls him back one more time. But now the customer is smart enough not to answer. He leaves Mr. Shanazi a voicemail about how stupid his name is. Then Topanga enters wearing a cute pink sweater. Finally, I have something cute little going on. She's looking extra chipper. She says Corey will never guess what happened to her at work today. Corey rolls his eyes and informs Shanazi's voicemail. I can't talk right now. My wife just got home. I'll call you later. Topanga is still gushing. She can't wait to tell him the great news, but he interrupts her. This is going to be the kind of job where I take aspirin. A lot. How you doing? He walks off and Topanga decides to try out the headset. She dials a number and cheerfully introduces herself to Donna Santangelo. Topanga's transparent, very positive. I'm one of those annoying magazine people who call it the worst time. Why does Topanga do this? I don't understand. I have no idea. I know the way we have to have this happen, right? Like, she's got to be better at his job too, but why does she decide? It's the most unmotivated, weird, like, little bit. I was like, oh, okay. You know what would have been better? Is if he, when he put the headset down, accidentally dialed someone or called someone, and so she hears something and picks it up and goes, oh, hi. oh my gosh I'm so sorry yes I'm we're selling magazines you know and then stumbles into a sale or if he said my job is hard and she said oh let me try or you know whatever which also would have played into the conflict more because then it's like yeah she oversteps her bounds by like doing something when he says no no no don't you know but instead it's like she just randomly decides to have fun doing a job that's not hers I don't know and she suddenly knows how to use it like picks up the headset and so topanga so topanga Corey has now reentered the room and is struggling to open an aspirin bottle. He scoffs at Topanga. Yeah, like you're going to sell a magazine. I couldn't sell one magazine and I'm in the business. But right on cue, Donna does buy a magazine. She actually decides to buy eight of them. Topanga is thrilled. She tells Donna she'll be billed without getting any of her information. And then takes off the headset. That was fun. Corey is disturbed. You sold a magazine? She clarifies. Eight. She assumes Corey must have sold like 800 and wants to know his total. Corey frowns and calmly explains, perhaps you didn't hear me when I said I didn't sell one magazine and I'm in the business 17 seconds ago. Great line. I love that line. It's one of the funniest lines. So good. Topanga doesn't even flinch. Right. So, Judy, she's my boss. She calls me into her office today with two other associate editors. She asks me for my opinion on what our first cover should be. Corey's gnawing on the aspirin bottle at this point, desperate to get it open while Topanga continues. The other two hated the one I picked, but Judy loved the one I picked. And we're going to use the one I picked. Corey isn't enthused. So she promoted you? Topanga nods. Yes! Isn't that something? With that, she walks right up to Corey and removes the aspirin bottle lid with ease. Good at everything. Good at everything. And then we're back at the student union. Eric and Jack enter and Eric announces, everyone relax. nothing bad can happen. You're with me. He reveals the lucky penny, which is now tied around his neck. Sean wonders, you really believe in that stuff? I love it. So Ryder. What? Being skeptical. Just skeptical of luck. Eric, there's no lucky penny or God. Exactly. The only difference is that Ryder would have gone, you really believe in that stuff? Exactly. Way more judgmental. Are we having this conversation right now? Did you just say the words Lucky Penny? You're smarter than this. Do better. Do better, Will. Do better. Think harder. So perfect. Eric responds, yes, I do. I'm the chosen one. I'm protected. I've got an invisible shield all over my body. And now he wants to prove it. Watch this. Eric calls out Rocco and approaches a big group of football players in the middle of a game of pool. Big star player Rocco notices Eric. You better have a good reason for bothering me. Wasn't wearing a leather jacket, so I don't know why we're scared of him, but whatever. Jack begs his friend to walk away, but Eric isn't hearing it. I just want Rocco to clear something up for me. Rocco retorts, if it's your complexion, then no can do. Again, 1950s. Acne jokes. Remember acne jokes from seasons one, two, and three? They're back, baby. Back. Back. He lets out a roasted. and high fives his boys we are just a reminder in college yeah in college eric's like an eighth year senior by this point i mean my god i know 30 it's just it's so 1950s like just grease it's it's grease it's fully grease it's the best eric pretends to laugh along as jack continues to try and usher him away but eric doesn't budge he asks rocco as an athlete on the football team is it a distraction being gay gay panic gay panic but i kind of dug the way they do it though well this is i thought it was great this is fantastic when it happened i was like oh really we're going there and indy was like why is that a bad thing right just genuinely ass and i was like oh yeah dude like back then right and i was i was explaining gay panic to indy and then the joke went all full circle i was like oh good for good for good for good for good for jack screams in horror as the inmates let out a massive big gay panic they are terrified of what's next Rocco looks at his boys then grabs Eric to earnestly beam thank you I've been holding it in for so long I would like to say um it's not appropriate to out people no just because he appreciates it in this moment and we are happy but do not out people but the joke gets even better when the two guys agree that they're gay too. I was like- It's like the whole team. But they're just gonna do it to go along with him? Or I almost felt like it was just a peer pressure. They're just like, oh, sure, now we're gay. I guess that's cool. Yeah. I love that joke. The audience erupts in laughter, arguably one of the biggest in the show's history. There's even a spattering of applause. Rocco turns to his teammates, fellas, I'm gay. The audience loves this. One of his teammates lovingly respond, that's okay, Rocco. So are we. Rocco is shocked but relieved. The entire team nods their heads in agreement. All of them are gay. And Eric is satisfied. Once again, Eric can't really do anything wrong. No. Like even when it's something that you kind of cringe at first, it turns out great because it's Eric. He is the lucky penny. He is. So true. He's our lucky penny. He's Boy Meets World's lucky penny. Outside the student union, Cory is deadlocked while playing solitaire. When Topanga arrives, she looks at the cards and immediately figures it out. She shows him what moves he needs to make and wins. Cory gives her a death stare as Topanga pacifies him with praise. Good job, Cory. You also just put up one ace. You didn't win. I didn't win at all. I don't get it. I don't get it either. She's also, she knows that. Yeah, of course. He sarcastically responds, yeah, I'm brilliant. I do think maybe this is playing into that competitive nature of her. Like her just saying I win, even though she hasn't really won. But I wish they would have taken it all the way where her saying she has where her rubbing it in his face is a little more true. Like, like she not only shows him what he needs to do, but instead of just saying I win, what if she is like one for me, zero for you. Right. Where they're just in every time I did get promoted. Did you get promoted? Right, if it was more of a competition. If she turns it into like a, ha ha, I got it, yeah. Where it's, but right now it's just kind of waffling in the middle. I think so too. Do you also think, I was thinking, do you think it would have been interesting for the character if at the end she got fired? Hmm. Like something bad happened to her, she wasn't perfect. And it's like, I did some blah, blah, blah, and I lost my job. Only no, because I think that then Corey would have been like, oh that makes me feel better about myself you got fired too whereas right she shouldn't something bad shouldn't need to happen to Topanga no no no but what I like about where Will's going is that what if Topanga fell apart because she was bad at something like she she remember how she used to fall apart because she didn't get all the A's yeah and like she was obsessive and what she could learn is that Corey has the resilience because he never like he you know and like that could have been like failures have made him strong and like made him more resilient where she's just always has to be a high achiever. And when she gets knocked down a bag, she falls apart. And together they make a good team and they learn from each other. That's a good idea. Yeah, the idea that Topanga is afraid after she fails, she's now afraid to try because what if I fail? And Corey's just always willing to try something new because failure's never meant to be. Yeah, it doesn't matter. All he does is fail. Yeah. All I do is fail, fail, fail. Okay. Is that a song? Yeah, okay. But it's win, win, win. Anyway, Topanga tries to lighten the mood. Work must be going well if you can take a break. Corey reveals he's taking a long break. He quit. Unlike you, I wasn't enjoying it. Unlike you, I wasn't good at it. Unlike you, I don't shine at everything. He walks away muttering, I don't shine at anything. She follows close behind and asks what's wrong. He brushes her off. It's nothing. They walk inside the union as Corey insists he's just in a mood. Topanga pulls him close. Is there anything I can do to cheer you up? Topanga knows what Corey like. Sex, baby. That's what you meant Yes Not sex Pookie Oh god Pookie pook I think you mean Pookie pook Yeah Want some nookie Some pookie pook Oh nookie's better Than pookie pook Pookie pook I did it all For the pookie pook Didn't work Yeah Yikes Oh god Everybody's shuddering She tries to kiss him But he says no Topanga pleads But I love you Wanna go home You want to go home and have pookie pook? Again, Corey turns her down. No Topanga, no pookie pook. She asks why not, and he laughs. Because you're better at pookie pook than I am too. He walks away from her again as Rachel and Eric look on. Rachel beams. Look how cute. They're having their first fight. Nope. We actually haven't. We had a fight at Rachel's apartment at their first dinner party where we stormed out into the hallway and I had to show him my butt. Yeah. So that was a great episode too. That was pre-pooky pook. Yeah, exactly. Topanga isn't letting Corey leave. I don't like that you can't talk to me about this. He tells her, which by the way, you weren't trying to talk. You were trying to distract him with sex. So this isn't even what your plan is. If your partner says, leave me alone right now, leave them alone. Leave them alone. It's a super important. Listen to your partner, which is something Corey and Topanga have never done. Never. Nope. He tells her, I just don't want to say anything that I'm going to regret. Okay? Now realizing it's serious, Rachel asks Eric if they should leave the public space. But he says, no, I want to see Topanga make Corey cry. Topanga asks Corey, whatever bug you have up your butt, why are you blaming it on me? He sighs. If you're as smart as your A-streak says you are, You'd know to just leave me alone right now. Topanga wonders, this is about my grades? Angela pops up and assures her, this is not about her grades. Corey is now frustrated. Yes, it is. It's about how you shove your stupid grades in my face or how you get promoted or you sell one of my subscriptions. She scoffs. Wow, well, I'm sorry. I tried to help you with your little magazine project. He shouts back. It's not a project, okay? Sticker books are a project. This is my career. Now Sean tries to intervene. Come on, it wasn't your career. Corey snaps. Shut up. Sean slithers away. Yow. Corey returns to Topanga. My life is just as important as your life, even if I don't do my life as good as you. Topanga corrects him as well as you. Yes, this extremely emotive audience gasps. Yeah. He asks, what? And she stammers. I was just saying that it's not as good as you. He angrily interrupts her correction. Are you crazy, Topanga? Are you kidding me that you would say something like that right now? She raises her voice. Corey, this whole thing is crazy. Angela jumps in to back her up. Yeah, it really is. Topanga screams. Sit down. Angela winces. Yow. And scampers off to Sean. Corey yells at his wife. At least I'm not a hoity-toity photo assistant. Kiss Judy's tushy. the audience is back it's the audience is basically at a jerry springer taping now with their constant oh topanga looks ready to rip him a new one maybe i have to kiss judy's tushy because you can't sell one stinking magazine and now the audience is just cooking with another oh sean knows when to leave okay that's it and the rest of the friends disperse too Corey gets serious. What did you just say? Topanga isn't as confident now. I just said that you haven't been doing all that well. Corey screams. No, no, no. That's not what you said. You said I'm a loser, which also isn't what she said. Not what happened. I know you said it because I heard it. I heard it from your big mouth. And again, this audience, Topanga doesn't back down yelling. Oh, I have a big mouth now. You can't even play solitaire, imbecile. Yeah, everybody's did that. You're ramping it up. Did you hear that okay from my big mouth? Corey explains. I used to be able to. I used to be able to do a lot of things before I married you. Ooh. Oh my God. Okay. Jesus. Congratulations. You killed my spirit. Topanga stares at him in disbelief and eventually walks away without another word. Breaking the silence, he yells after her. I win. You leave. I win. Bye. His friends look at him in disappointment and he mutters. Oh, man. Somehow the audience is silent long enough for us to get a commercial break. And when we return, we are still in the student union. In 2023, former Bachelor star Clayton Eckerd found himself at the center of a paternity scandal. The family court hearings that followed revealed glaring inconsistencies in her story. This began a years-long court battle to prove the truth. You doctored this particular test twice in so-and-so, correct? I doctored the test once. It took an army of internet detectives to crack the case. 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But it's my belief that we should all benefit from this moment. Mostly Human will show you how. My goal is to give you the playbook so you can benefit. it. The reason I say agency is because like, if we can give power back to people, then I think that probably the best thing we can do for your mental health Listen to Mostly Human on the iHeartRadio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to your favorite shows A depressed Cory is sitting with Sean. I said she killed my spirit. Sean reminds him that marriage is a new situation and there's a lot of new stress on him. Cory sighs. You know, this is our first fight ever. Nope. No, it's not. No. I know because I watched every episode. I know. My first fight. What am I supposed to do? Sean responds, well, she left crying. Did she? My mother and father fought all their lives and one of them always walked out. One day, one of them never came back. It's bad in my experience when someone walks out crying. Corey asks, so what do I do? Sean suggests, You go home. You hope she's still there. Corey's eyes widen. Oh, no. Sean continues. And if she is, you lock the door and have it out. Corey gets it. Like a steel cage match? Sean nods. No one leaves until the fight's over. Corey wishes he hadn't said what he said, and Sean shrugs. But you did. So, obviously, something's bothering you. Good scene, by the way, so far. Great scene. Yep. But Corey doesn't know what. Sean shakes his head. Don't figure it out with me. I love this. Don't figure it out with me. Those days are long gone. There's only one person who can help you here. Suddenly, Eric appears. Of course. And it's me, Sean Skolten. Eric, no. Like a dog. I love it. No. Eric snaps back. Why don't you cram it, talk boy? That's all you're good for is talk. Talkity, talk, talkity, talk, talkity, talk. Trailer boys got all the answers. I held it together, man. You did. I was trying. You didn't break at all. I know I did every other take. I was trying so hard. I'm like, I'm going to break you. They picked the one take where you did not break because I was looking and you were solid as a rock. Yeah. Proud of myself. It's even because it was the second look back at you. When I look away with that, I look back at you. I'm like, I'm going to get him. I'm going to get him. Nope, I didn't. Damn it. Damn it. You know what, trailer boy? There's something you don't have. And with that, he pulls out his lucky penny and shoves it in his face. Bam. Penny. He calmly turns to his brother. I love you, Corey. You're my brother. That's why I'm going to give you my penny. And this audience is hopped up on sugar. They are going, I'm telling you. Who are these people? What did we give them before? It's work release day. Oh. Corey is surprised. That penny's been so lucky for you. What? Just the, just the, and how has it been so lucky? Well, he outed an entire football team. That's got to be it. I guess. Okay. Yeah, we didn't really show him being lucky in any other way. No, I would have loved it if there was a bunch of amazing stuff. There really was only the one thing. Of course, nothing. Just it. Nothing. It was just Eric walking in and saying, I'm lucky. Here's my penny. I've been lucky. They don't show him actually being lucky in any way, shape, or form. No. That's kind of a missed opportunity. It could have just been a visual gag, right? Yeah. Walking under a ladder, stepping over, you know, and like whatever it is, you just magically walk through life barely missing. He falls behind the couch and you just hear, hey, bag of money. Like, you know, stuff like that is all you need. I also thought the football player being gay, Rocco being gay, is a little hard for me. Like I, having watched every episode now of the show up to this point, Eric is so good at knowing people and at reading people. There was a part of me that felt like he's not randomly going up to this guy saying he's gay. He knows he's gay. He has been. Right. He's doing it to help him. He's doing it to help him. He was doing it to help him. But I think the point was, how lucky are you? You're going to make this wild leap of an assumption. And then it turns out you were right. But like knowing Eric the way we do, it wasn't luck. It was that I felt like he knew this. And I think what they were doing with Jack was he's going to show, I'm going to show you how lucky I am. I'm going to walk up to the biggest guy here, say the biggest insult. And he's not going to punch me. That's how lucky I am. That's how lucky I am. The protective bubble. Not to poo-poo the idea that that was progressive. Is the idea that it's lucky because you did it to gay guys and they're not going to fight you? That's what I think it is. Isn't that what they're going for? I thought so. I thought it was that you're saying the most insulting thing. Right. And he was relieved. And somehow you're going to get out of it. Right. He's happy to have been outed. But I don't think, I think that, like, Danielle, I'm with you that it's actually to Eric's character that he would have known this person is gay. But I don't think that's what they intended. That's not what they intended. That's how I read it now. Definitely not. And I think that's the better reading. But I think what they intended was I'm going to go call this person fat and nothing's going to happen. Right. And it's just the equivalent of that is gay. Yes. And Eric could get away with anything. And he's not. Yeah. Exactly. That's what it was. But I wish it had been something more like true luck as opposed to something that could be read as like I have picked up on all. I've been, you know, anyway. Okay. My guns be by guns. Eric nods. Now it's going to be lucky for you. He just wants one more second with it. He looks down at it with sadness. Thank you, Penny, for all you've taught me. For you have taught me confidence. And with that confidence, I know that I no longer need luck. So I intend to go on with my life. Penniless. He takes off the necklace, fighting off tears to place it on Corey. Corey asks if he's sure about this, and an emotional Eric nods his head. He grabs the penny one last time. Good luck, old gal. He tells Corey, you take care of her. and yourself and brings him in for a hug. This is so long to say goodbye to the penny. It really is. Now, with the penny, Corey and Sean walk out, leaving Eric alone on the couch. Then, all of a sudden, out of nowhere, lightning flashes inside. Everyone leaves, first of all. Yep. Entire place is gone. Clear it out for the effect. Clear it out for the effect. Special effect, yeah. I remember shooting this. Eric says aloud, that's weird. Looks like rain. Good thing I'm inside. Set it up. Then, buzz. Lightning enters the student union and manages to strike him not only once, but twice. And if I remember correctly, it's just Lynn McCracken going, lightning, lightning. It was so fun. I was really proud of Indy because, you know, he laughed. And then he was like, but the audience wouldn't see the lightning. Yeah. He knew that the live audience's reaction couldn't be natural to what we were seeing. I was like, oh, yeah, that's good for you. The effects were added afterward, the fact, and you know that. And so how could the audience that was live be laughing at? I was like, right. They had to add the reaction. Well, I'll tell you what they were laughing at. The charred version, the actor. They had to cut to do that. Of course. So it couldn't have been an actual spontaneous laughter the way it's presented, which is what he was pointing out. Well, it would have been black, black screen for the audience. Okay. They don't see. Then they put him out there. Right. And they reveal him. They laugh at it. And they would have used that for the moment. And they used that for that moment when the lightning. Or I think probably more accurately because of the change and all the stuff, this was pre-taped. and then shown back to the audience. So they saw then the lightning strike because again, I would have had to gotten dressed. We had the bucket thing. We had the lightning. So my guess is we shot this on Wednesday and just showed it to the audience. Yeah, you're right. Making his hair stick straight up, he is destroyed. Dazed, he stares off into the distance. At least I didn't get wet. On cue, a janitor runs over and dumps a bucket of water on his head. We're just going to say it's janitor bud, right? Right. They made it look like it. Like janitor bud. It looks the same. It does. It does. It sizzles off his body and he thanks the man. Small shocks of lightning continue to sizzle off his body as he sits alone. Is this the first special effect we've seen since Minkus disappeared at the end of season one? My God, has it really been that long? No, we've done other magical. Like what? Was there anything in Witches of Pembroke? Yes, laser beam on the tush. I turned into a frog. And you turned into a frog. and then was there anything in the World War II episodes like when he got oh time hole time hole yeah the time hole when we went through time remember the whole screen was like oh that's right yeah yeah yeah just adding the word hole to things really throws me yeah stink hole stink hole time hole Corey in Topanga's apartment Corey walks in to find no sign of Topanga oh no he calls out for her a couple of times and she eventually walks out of their bedroom I'm here. She takes a seat on the couch and picks up her game of solitaire. Corey cautiously approaches her. You're playing solitaire? She responds, yeah, because I was alone. I played 19 games. Corey condescendingly asks, did you win them all? She gives him a look and he apologizes. He asks, could you put the cards away? I need to talk to you. She wonders, oh, you have something you want to say to me now? Corey responds, I'm sorry about what happened. I'm deeply, deeply sorry. And I do take back what I said to you. She stands up and crosses her arms looking for more. Uh-huh. He's confused. That's all I get is, uh-huh. Topanga, I just apologized. Now it's your turn. She yells, yeah, no, that's not the way it works. Corey's anger flares up again. I don't apologize good enough for you either. She yells back, is that what that was? And then we get a time lapse. We're still in Corey and Topanga's apartment later that afternoon. Topanga is now pacing as a frustrated Corey lays on the couch. She points out, you haven't said anything for an hour. He responds, I'm afraid to say anything. There's music playing under this, which I'm not sure. The guitar, the awesome guitar. I even said to Sue, I was like, I would love for them to just cut over to a guy sitting there, literally playing guitar in their apartment because it was so, it was just like, oh my God, I just wanted to cut over. It should just be Sean. Exactly. Just the guy there. I thought it would have been the best. Yeah. It was so distracting to me. It's the monkey. It was. It was. Just like, oh, please, please just pan over to a guy playing guitar. Please. Oh, that's funny. I didn't notice it, but I did feel that this whole, like the, um, the conceit that we're going to get this like endless montage of them fighting and like cutting didn't work for me stylistically. I agree. And I like the idea. Like, I like the idea of like set up the cage mat. And when I think about how this season went in the direction, like the episode where you guys were talking to camera and like, I like those kinds of bold choices where it's like, we're going to formally change the sort of sitcom structure, but this one didn't work for me. I think that's part of the problem with the episode is like if it had been more stylized I'm not sure what that would have been but if it had been more stylized I think the only thing they can do is have this music and then the dissolves the crossfades and it just doesn't work it's not enough so they should have found a way I felt like it should have been more because I love the idea that actually one of the lessons is in relationships where you've made a commitment to somebody both a friendship and a marriage or whatever sometimes that does just mean you, you, as long as it takes, it could take, just talk it out. And it's going to flip flop. It's going to go through different phases. Maybe that's what it would have been. It should have been more cutty and like cut to like just the two of you eating hot dogs and talk, you know, or like just like random stuff. Laughing ones, crying. Exactly. It'd been more erratic and energy wise. Cause as it is, it just feels like a therapy session. You don't want to be a part of. Yes, exactly. It's like, I, this is what couples therapy is like. And I don't want to have to sit through it. The idea of Topanga and Corey having a really big fight is very interesting. And I was thinking back to there's a famous episode of Family Ties where Michael J. Fox's best friend dies. And the entire episode is Michael J. Fox on a black stage going from little vignette to little vignette playing himself throughout his entire life. So he's playing himself at four where they first met. And the other actor who's actually his age in his 20s comes on. But they're four year olds who met at this thing. It's really stylized, really cool. Wow. Yeah, it's amazing. Some of the stuff they did on that show is great. So the idea to me where it was like, do a play. Yeah. Do Corey and Topanga. Don't have anybody else in the episode. Do Corey and Topanga for 22 minutes in a fight. It's in there. It's everything you guys are saying. You're having dinner. Because, you know, you get into a fight with your partner. It's like, you're not going to leave each other. So you're, what are we having for dinner? All right, let's share a pizza. Let's do this. Let's do. It's like that for 22 minutes would have been a pretty incredible episode. You know what's interesting is that, Michael, if you had been in the writer's room and you pitched that, Michael would have done that. Because that's a very Michael idea, actually. Like, I think he would have liked to go that far. It just never occurred to him. You know, I think it's a nudge in that direction with this sequence. And I bet if you had suggested, if you were one of the writers, he probably would have gone for it. Because that's very Michael, you know, actually. Yeah, just give it to Danielle and give it to Ben. Everybody else takes the week off. We're going to literally shoot a play with you guys. Where it is, you were fighting for 22 minutes. That would have been really cool. That's a great idea. Really good idea. She wonders why, and he says he doesn't know. She insists he does know, but he explains, I think I know better whether I know or not, okay? She doubles down. Well, then I guess I know you better than you do. Corey throws his arms in the air. Of course you do, Topanga. And then we get another time lapse, still in Corey and Topanga's apartment later that night. They're still arguing. Topanga reminds him, unless we tell each other what's going on, then we cannot be truthful. This is our first fight. He nods. Nope. Ever. Nope. She begs, then let's make it mean something. Tell me what's going on. He asks, you want the truth? Sit down. I'll be happy to tell you the truth. I don't, I, in no point did I think he had been lying. He's, he doesn't say anything different here. No. Than what he had been saying, which is also another way they could have gone with the episode. That there is a problem. He does tell her what it is and it's not, he doesn't tell her the truth. He's like. He overreacts in the wrong, yeah, yeah. He says something else and she's like, oh, okay. And then he's like, okay, you actually want to know what it is? I'm insecure around you. I don't feel good about myself. And then that's the point of it is like, oh. Great. I guess now that we're married, I have to tell you the truth about even things that are embarrassing for me. Wouldn't that be great for him to be embarrassed by the fact that he's insecure around you? Yes. Yes. I feel bad about myself when I'm around you. And that's not on you. That's on me. And it's not your fault. And I feel dumb that I feel that way. Yes. Would have been great. Would have been great. They take a seat on the couch and he lays it all out. Ever since I've known you, I had an idea. You had a better one. I got a good grade, you get a better one. I got into Pembroke, you get into Yale. She reminds him, I didn't go because of you. He assures her he understands. So I got a job, but you, of course, get a better one. What's next? I mean, I understand that you're better than me, but why, why do you have to shove it in my face? She can't believe what she's hearing. You think I'm better than you? girl please yeah this is unless you're wearing a jacket and then I'm better than you that's what Cory should have said Cory says he knows she is you make me not think very much of myself she's how dare you make me think of myself she's completely stunned I do what another time lapse we're still in Cory and Topanga's apartment later on Topanga's now lying on the floor tearing up I've killed your spirit. I've caused you pain. He takes a seat next to her. No, look, I'm okay. She insists. I would never want to cause you pain. I want you to be happy. Everything I ever did was just trying to impress you. Why does she react this way now? What has changed? That's what I'm saying. I don't know. Because she says, I think it's the first time she's realizing that she's causing her partner pain. But he said that. He said that in the first time he ran out. You killed my spirit. So it doesn't, that's why none of it makes any sense. No, it doesn't. It's the equivalent, it's the fight equivalent of saying this is our first fight, where you just have to suspend reality because we know that it's not, clearly. We've seen it 50 times now. So, yeah, it's just weird. Everything I ever did was just trying to impress you. He perks up, unnecessarily excited. Really? She shakes her head. No. Sometimes. Sometimes for me. Mostly for me. Twice for you. She looks at him and admits, a lot for you. Corey asks, why for me? She explains, because I always knew you were worth it. Because you believed in us. You were the one who held this relationship together when I was afraid of this relationship. You were the one who taught me to have faith and love. Corey can't believe it. Me? And she nods. We cut to even later and now Topanga's lying on top of Corey. I don't want you to ever feel bad about yourself. He adds, and I don't want you to ever hold yourself back because of me. Topanga wonders, so what do we do? He decides we have to support each other. I thought that's definitely what Topanga was doing before they got into this fight. Yeah, she was helping him and supporting him, saying it's great, you got a job, and not making him feel, yeah. They support each other the whole time, kind of. She adds, and we can't be afraid to fight with each other. Corey admits, but I'm scared of you. Topanga assures him, sometimes in our lives, you're going to be doing better than me. He wonders when. And she clarifies, or I'm going to be doing better than you. He sighs, and we're back. And we're back. She continues, but if either one of us is doing well at all, it's because we love each other. We have to always remember that. We're not competing. We're a team. I would never want to kill your spirit because I love your spirit. He smiles. And now there's one last time lapse. It's even later. Now Topanga and Corey are sharing the headset and Corey demands, all right, Shanazi, you're going to buy a magazine. You know why? Because I'm bringing in the wife. You know why? Because when the two of us work together, ain't nothing gonna stop us. Topanga chimes in with a much nicer tone. Hello? Hi, I'm the wife. Topanga. What? Her tone quickly changes. Well, what kind of a name is Shanozzi? Corey covers the mic. That's what I said. Topanga hands the headset to Corey. He doesn't want to talk to me. He wants to talk to you. Corey takes over. All right, Shanozzi, let's have it. Yes? Yeah? Uh-huh. Goodbye. He is shocked. He just bought a one-year subscription to Aardvark. He said I was the most persistent person he's ever met. Topanga asks, he did, huh? Corey nods, yeah. You know, I think it was a compliment. With that, she gives him a congratulatory kiss, and we're in the tag. So he's persistent. He's persistent, Ryder. That's, okay. oh sorry oh snap i just wanted to be like so the lesson i guess is that in a in a marriage sometimes one person may be in a in a surge of good luck and and doing great and succeeding and if they are it's only because they're in love and being supported. And the other person at that same time might be down in the dumps and that's okay. That's okay. And then that might change at some point. The other person is doing great and the other person's down in the dumps. So you have to not be afraid to fight. And, and that if you love each other and are supporting each other, it doesn't matter. It's a partnership all the way around. That's what they would say. And that's exactly where Topanga started this episode. Correct. Yeah. Yes. So, the only person who had a lesson to learn was Corey. Yep. And he had his little freak out and moans. And then the episode ends and they both say, we've learned something. But really, there's only one person who went on a journey at all. And by next week, I'm sure he forgot all about it. Yeah. It's about right. Totally. Yeah. Tushy. Tushy. Tushy. And Shanazy. Shanazy and Tushy. The best law firm in the town. There's a knock on Corey and Topanga's door. Corey opens it to find a completely burnt Eric Matthews. Eric simply grunts, Penny. And smoke pours out of his mouth and nose. This is so funny. This is, for the first and only time on the set of Boy Meets World, I got to smoke a cigarette. So as we're sitting there, as I'm getting there, like the scene starts, I'm out there just puffing a butt. And I remember at one point, like by the second take, I light another one and Bob Young just comes up to me and just goes, easy. I'm like sucking them down in between. I'm like, I'm taking advantage of this. I get to smoke on stage right before I walk on the set. So it was awesome. I'm just like, ah, yes, I don't have to go outside. So, yeah, I'm halfway through a cigarette at this point as I walk in. I can't believe. It's so funny. It is so funny. Topanga is horrified and Corey quickly pulls the penny necklace out of his pocket. Eric can't move his arms so he opens his mouth and Corey places the good luck charm I was going to say we always just handed it to me so this time I just opened my mouth and luckily Ben like saw it went right away yeah it was great Eric twitches as he walks out making his way over to the telephone in the hallway he picks up the receiver and says hello that was all again I just so I walk out and I saw the phone there and I just slammed into the phone and then I just pick it up and I go hello and I just heard Ben lose it Yep, exactly. Ben lets out a real laugh before closing the door. He turns to Topanga, who also me, has a huge smile on my face. I mean, this is technically a little bit of a blooper. Totally. Yeah, it's a bit of a blooper episode. Or not episode, blooper tag. Scene, yeah. Oh, well, thank you all for joining us for this episode of Pod Meets World. 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