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So you've been discharged but then you're just hanging out in the waiting room? No, not in the waiting room. You just don't leave the room. Because you're disputing the discharge? No. You don't think you actually are ready to be discharged? No, you just don't leave. You just like get in the free food? Do they get security? What do you think? Oh, back in the hospital, I was injured by that guy. So there's a woman who was in the hospital and I don't know how long she was in for. And I didn't and I don't know why, which I wish they would say. But she got discharged, pardon me, from the hospital on October the 6th of last year. She just left. Wow. She just left. How much of that time was she like, so she was discharged on the 6th? You don't know when she entered the hospital? I don't, correct. Yeah, so I don't know when she entered. I don't know. I don't know. I don't even know what she was in for. But whatever it was, they were like, listen, you're good. Today, October 6th, that's your day. Everything's good. Discharge. We let's get in touch with somebody to come get you. Here's your bloomers and let's go. Wouldn't leave. She was squatting at the hospital. I don't know if it's squatting. So she was thinking they shouldn't tell her it's time to go yet? I just don't think she wanted to leave. Had nothing to do with her medical state? Correct. Yeah, no, she was discharged. Her medical state was fine. People definitely are prematurely discharged from hospitals and it's unsafe and you see it come up later in malpractice lawsuits. I've never been prematurely discharged. You're one of the lucky ones. No, no, but that's what I mean. I don't know what she was in for. Do you even see it with women who have just given birth? Yeah, no, they, well, that's that 24 hour. They like to push you out. Yes, but not everyone should be. I agree. Discharged that soon. I agree. Because of lingering. Okay, this is six months. Linger and delivery. This is six months later. But was she contending I need to still be here or was she just living there? I think she was just living there. But I'm not hiding. No, she stayed in her room. She stayed in her room. She was in room. I have the room number 373. The hospital has filed a lawsuit to recently filed a lawsuit. So they filed the lawsuit at the beginning of March. She been there since October. They filed the lawsuit requesting an injunction to force the woman to leave room 373 and authorizing the county sheriff to assist if necessary. She was discharged from the hospital on October 6. The hospital was in the hospital. The woman was discharged from the hospital on October 6. The hospital's lawsuit said resources were being diverted from helping other patients because the woman's continued occupation of the room. Well, yeah, you hear all the time. There are no beds. Well, yeah, she's in one. She didn't have roommate. She didn't room 37. Great question. I don't know the answer to that. And how about when she leaves the room, you lock the door? Where's she going? How did she eat? Oh, yeah, they stopped feeding her. So they were cating, catering to her? They bring you food if you're in the hospital. You said she was discharged. On the 6th, but I'm still in the room. She probably went to the cafeteria. But to Tyler's point, if you call it a squatter. No, but she's, you know, she didn't, she didn't outstay a lease. Right. But no, a squatter, you enter the home illegally and stay there. No, most squatters end up going in with like some 30 day lease and then they get like their mail sent there and all of a sudden they own it. And then you can't get them out. So maybe it's like that. They couldn't. She had a letter of mail to her at the hospital. No, but like they couldn't legally, physically pick her up and kick her out. Maybe they had to like go through a court system like a squatter or a, what do you call like eviction? But she's not living there. Also, I don't think. Was she claiming I need to still be living here because she didn't say you've prematurely discharged. Was she first six months? She, it can be, it's a meet one of two situations. Right. Just someone who doesn't want to leave. Right. And someone that's trying to use the laws and the patient's rights against the hospital. So saying like I'm still in some pain. I'm not leaving versus I'm just crazy. I wouldn't use that word, but closer to that. Right. Yes. So I, I, you know, have that her like, was the staff friendly with her? Well, what are they going to do? What are they going to do? I know what you would do. Not wait for the courts to give you the, the, the ruling. Also, I don't, I could be wrong about this. I don't think like you can't lock the door. I don't believe hospital room doors lock. Probably not. I don't believe they lock. That makes sense. Right. So they can't lock her even if she went to the, the, the, the, what's your call it? The cafeteria. They can't lock her out. I mean, you could have tackled her, I guess, but you can't lock her out. There's no locks on those doors. Again, maybe not physically locking her out, but just when she exits the room, but are you going to like, like stand in front of her like I'm guarding her? Like you can't come in. How about giving it to another patient? And then I'm coming in. This is my room. That is weird. Scooch over. I'm getting in bed. No, and for six months that went on. Yeah. Oh my goodness. I've never heard of that happening before. Never. Most, most people can't wait to get out. Isn't it? Then if I say, say it's not someone, but we change our mind if we knew what she was in for, it would help. Yeah, I agree. But say she's not contending their dismissal of her. Right. She's crazy. Then a security safety risk for the other patients and the staff too. She didn't hurt anybody, but you're, you have someone that's not supposed to be in the hospital. They make a big deal about that when you hear, I was supposed to be in the whole the code colors and everything when somebody is in the hospital that is not supposed to be on those grounds. Actually, according to, according to everything I was, they didn't even have to do anything for me. I was just here. Like I wasn't taking up nurse time. Well, I was. I mean, I need to get fed to the resources being depleted because of her. But like, I don't think they were going in and doing vitals every day. We don't know though. What a great scam. Like you said, you've never heard of it. I've never heard of it, but do you think that if we talk to somebody who works in a hospital, they would say this goes on all the time. Don't say all the time, but they're regularly. Yeah, we've heard of a story like this. Like where it's like, oh, you're talking about the old room hobo or like whatever they would call it. Like it's not to have a fun. But oh, but oh, hi, Macy. No, hi, Macy. I don't know. What part of Florida was weird? Tallahassee stayed stay capital. Thank you. She was ordered to leave. I can tell you how this finally ends up. After six months, they finally had a the courts finally had an injunction and they were going to serve her. She packed her stuff and left. Should have filed the suit six months ago. Right. So she finally was like, I don't need this headache and she split. Do we know if she had a home? Yeah, I believe it's called Tallahassee general. Oh, I'm sorry, Memorial. Yeah, no, I have no idea. Well, no, she asked you because they even said the hospital was working with her to like set up like relatives to come get her and to talk to her. So she had family. She had a place to go. Does the staff have to take care of her as frustrated by her as they may have been because absolutely because you know how bad that's going to look if you don't. Well, of course, but I'm saying like the pledges and the oaths and I thought you meant like people like it's like hell week and the pledges are there to care for. Right. Do they fall back on that? No, not for this. She's not hurt. But you are providing her with food and and a roof over her head like there is right in a remote. Yeah, no, you can't do anything like you can't push her. Yeah, getting physical is never the answer. But I just I can't figure out why. Why? Which one? Why she stayed? We have so many questions and very few answers. Right. Other than she's crazy. No, and not if she was smartly executing her rights. You don't have a right to just go that. You may as well just walk into a hospital and go like upstairs to the fourth floor and go into a room. But you can fight being discharged. That's a thing. I don't know what the legal term is or the medical term. So if they say you're discharged, I can argue that you go. I'm not ready to be discharged. Absolutely. And how does that get settled? I don't know. I'm going to sit here for six months. You figure it out. There has to be a way to settle that. Like there has to be somebody that goes, no, really, like I understand like a hypochondriac would be like, I am not ready to go. And they'd be like, no, you have to go. I'm not ready to go. Somebody has to settle that or people would never leave the hospital. But isn't it wild looking back? I know I did. Didn't you get to stay after not because we both had children in the NICUs. But didn't you get to stay in one of the rooms longer than you were supposed to? Oh, yeah. Yeah. And was that because someone looked the other way? Or is that like in my case, remember a lot of the nurses went to go see Kenny Chesney? The, no, in mind, I don't know that they looked the other way, but they definitely wheeled another couch in for me. And it feels like you're doing something wrong. I didn't feel like that. I thought this is great. Oh, so they never told you you're not supposed to be in this room. 100% they told me that. They made me uncomfortable. Not me. They were the ones who said do it. Yes. But those people have bosses. What up, Holy Cross? Yeah, probably not a good time for the shout out. Yeah, no, but I don't feel bad. They made it. They made it accessible to me. So we stayed. I worried about those supervisors. I didn't. Who weren't Kenny Chesney fans. That's on them showing up. That's that somebody else is getting in trouble for that. Not me. Hi, Elliott. The morning. Great hospital. Yeah. Hi. Who's this? It's me. Long time listener. Long time caller. Yes, ma'am. 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So that's six months. Yeah. But then a lot of the times they don't have a place like they're on house. You can't stay homeless anymore. It's not a house. So right. And thank you. But but now let me ask you this. Like the so in my head and maybe maybe wrong, I assume like when you said like it's somebody who lives like at like an old folks or an old person's home and they were like I'd rather stay here than go back there. I think there's part of me that can understand that maybe not necessary that they live there. But like it's not where I work. It's a nursing home such rehab is not necessarily as old folks. Okay. A lot of the times or the cases where this has happened, they don't have anywhere else to go. You know what I mean? And a lot of the times it's people that you know are you know, I shouldn't say med seeking, but you know, the hospital is a better choice. They just want to change the scenery. I just let me stay here for a little bit. So am I wrong? Am I wrong that I imagined that this woman was like a totally normal for lack of a better term woman who was you know, like I don't know what she was in the hospital for but she's fine. She's done go home like everybody else. Right. I didn't think of I didn't think of her having any kind of plight because I feel like if she had some kind of plight, they would have said so in the article. Yeah. Well, and if I were in the hospital, if I were in the hospital, people I would have let loose with every amount of information. You can hip up my ass. I would I would let loose with every ounce of information so that there aren't people like me would say again, you can't discharge people if it's not a safe discharge. That's a thing too. So if they don't have it somewhere to go, you can't discharge them. Six months later, still have a ride. Right. So all right. All right. Very good. Thank you. So that is that all you got to do? Like all Jackie? Is it that simple? That kind of seems like it's unsafe. But wouldn't they work to help coordinate some sort of exit? I got a colonoscopy. I live a block away from the hospital. And they were like your wife has to pick you up. I was like, you can look out the window and see my house. But they were like, can't walk. Well, I was seeing six months. But you then didn't protest and stay. No, Jackie picked you up. I went downstairs and got Jackie's car and we left. Wait, you'd still drove? No, she picked me up. Oh, I thought you said you went and got her car. No, got in her car. Yes. Yes. Line four. No gloss, no filter, just stories, spoken without fear. Addiction is a disease and it should be looked upon as any other disease. How did you cope with a reckless father like me? Join me, Pooja Bhatt, as I sit down every week with directors, actors, musicians, technicians and beyond. You don't need to work with the biggest people and the biggest sound to have great music. I have gone through the sub-3D hutchaker, reached the pinnacle, stung by the sneaker, I've fallen down again. Yeah, I am not writing actively anymore. And when I see my old work, it kind of saddens me. I'm only as good as the last shot that I gave. Mom's gone, but don't shut the theater. The show must go on. Listen to my weekly podcast, the Pooja Bhatt show on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Come for the honesty, stay for the fire. Hi, Elliot, good morning. Hey, is this me? Yeah, hi, who's this? Hey, my name is Colleen. I'm a lawyer. I represent hospitals and healthcare providers for a living. I have some answers for you. Hey, is that a cool job? I think so. I bet you deal with some real lunatics. Well, I don't want to say that online, but it's interesting. I would say reading, doing my work is sort of like every case is like a novel. Oh, I bet. So, I bet. It's not boring. I bet. Yeah, it's cool. All right, so answer some of these questions, please. Okay, well, first of all, responsive to Tyler's point, what duty the healthcare providers have to the patient, the duty to care for any patient by any healthcare provider is established by the doctor or healthcare provider patient relationship. Once a patient is discharged, that duty ends. So once a patient is medically discharged, that patient just becomes a guest in the hospital. No difference in you sitting in the waiting room when Jackie's a patient. Actually, big difference. I'm in the waiting room. This woman's in a hospital room getting a room service. No, but no, she's not. Legally, once she's discharged, she's a guest. So if there's an obstructive guest, once you're discharged, you're a guest, I would advise the hospital to do the same thing. I would advise a troublesome guest, call security and vomiting. It happens all the time. So why did they leave her in room 373 for six months? It's confounding and I'm going to read the article. There's got to be more to the story because she's taking up space, she's taking up resources. They owe her no duty under the law. And you say duty a lot. Never kind of this is duty with a T. I understand. I understand. And as they continue to treat her, which I would be shocked if they did, then they are acting as a provider. Once she's medically discharged, they owe her no duty. So you don't want to continue to do anything. Now, whether she's saying, Tyler again is right, if she's saying, I shouldn't have been discharged, you take that up later in a medical malpractice lawsuit case, which is what I defend. And if two years later she follows the lawsuit and said, you shouldn't have let me go. Okay, there's a tribunal for that. There's a mechanism for that. But once you're done, you're done. And if you won't leave, get security, go get security, get her ass out of there. But I would bet you my next three paychecks, they did not just leave her and bring her meals and have nurses checking her bones or even let her peacefully, you know, watch Seinfeld in her bed. There's no way there has to be more to it. So what do you think they cut the cable? It says she lived in, she was in room 373. I mean, that is just confounding. It makes no sense. It's such a liability to leave her there. And it doesn't benefit them at all. And they literally have no duty to leave her there. I mean, they just have no reason to do it. Well, they did. For six months. Research it and get back to you. Research all you want. Now I feel like I'm the woman's lawyer. Research away. And maybe she'll get to the bottom of it for us. I'm not questioning your reading comprehension of the article. Man. It's for state listening. No, you are my source of news always. Thank you. Thank you. We are for most law lawyers. The most trusted media, of course, but I just, I just, it doesn't make any sense. They would have no reason to do it. It would be the worst thing they could do. So and it just doesn't make sense. And she would be a problem. So yeah, so legally there's no reason they wouldn't want to do it. She's a guest call security, get her out of there. She sounds loony tunes. That would be another reason she'd be a liability. That's what I said. Can you say it in Latin? Yeah, that's that's Loonis Tunis. Anyway, if I, if I can get the dirt on it, I'm going to dig up the actual case. Yeah. Oh, that'd be awesome. That'd be awesome. I'd love that. I would love that. All right. Very, very good. Modus apirondi. Tallahassee, Florida. Tallahassee, Florida. Yeah. Ape floor of a food. Have a great day. Ape floor of a, that's my favorite stand at the arena. Speaking of food, prime rib night tonight. Oh, yes. They have Wednesday at the hospital's fried chicken day. Yes. They have an on-site sushi. That's unhealthy for the hospital. Chef, right? Do they really bottomless Sunday brunch? I get it. I get why this woman didn't leave. Now Chris wonders if the staff messed up because when they gave her her clothes, they said, take your time whenever you're ready. Hi, Elliott in the morning. Hello, is that me? Yeah. Hi. Who's this? Well, my name is, uh, yeah, Matt. I'll go here and say my real name. All right, Matt. Yes. I'm the ying to the yang. They wouldn't let me leave the hospital. What do you mean? It was so bad. I cried to my mama to come get me because I felt like I was in jail. But wait, had you been discharged? No, they wouldn't discharge. Oh, so they waited for three days to get discharged. They said, oh, you're good. You're good. We're gonna do one more test and Oh, okay. Well, they didn't think that you were, but they didn't think you were healthy enough to leave. They're trying to help you. What? No, I think it was opposite where they knew nothing went wrong and they were just testing and testing and trying to get all that money out of you. Yes. Fuck it up. Hey, the big pussy's crying again. All right, dude. I appreciate it. Thank you, sir. Yes, and if you're just joining us now, the woman finally left. Yeah, because they, because of the lawsuit to all the people that said call the room. No. No gloss, no filter, just stories spoken without fear. Boss who is not generous cannot be an artist. The world will be at peace only when it is ruled by poets and philosophers. Listen to my weekly podcast, the Pooja Bhachow on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Come for the honesty. Stay for the fire.
