"Chi-Con" (w/ Maggie Winters)

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Wow, you sound just like him. Then he said... If it's still warm, then do it again. Where can I learn all this? It's all on SmokeyBear.com with other wildfire prevention tips. Because only you can prevent wildfires. Brought to you by the USDA Forest Service, your state forester and the Ad Council. Look, Matt. Oh, I see. Wow. Oh, look over there. Wow, is that culture? Yes. Oh, my goodness. Wow. Los Culturistas. Ding dong. Los Culturistas calling. Go ahead. Tell them what you're chomping on and just do one because there's misophonia girlies who could get upset. Well, it's impossible to just do one with Chicago style because you want to use the caramel and the cheddar. Apologies to everyone out there. Here we go. I got two. I got one of each. And this is it. This is it. Cook County classic. Garrett popcorn shops. This is the shit they have at O'Hare. This is as classic. This is as Chicago as. Kevin, this is as Chicago as the name on everybody's lips is going to be Garrett. Oh, my gosh. A Chicago tradition since 1949. Can I say, I have not been back to Chicago since pre-pandemic. Oh, you haven't? No, I forgot. I am a Chicago girl. You're a Chai Con. I'm a Chai Con. A what? Excuse me? A Chai Con. No, I wouldn't say that. Remember Chicago in the 90s. Let's just, I want to bring her guest into this. Obviously, she's a Chicago legend. Well, yes. Bulls, Oprah. Yeah. I mean, name a third thing. Home Alone. I mean, Home Alone, you did it. And this is a great tribute to one Miss Catherine O'Hara. Of course. But yeah, I go every year, so I think I'm a little spoiled. You are. Oh my God. I go there at least once a year, actually. because I tour in December, which by the way, nobody does Christmas like Chicago. And I'm sorry, New York. But there's like a corporate feel in the way that New York does Christmas. Tall buildings, yeah. I say this as the expert. And then you go to Chicago and it's just much more lived in. It's much more like real Christmas. You can tell all the lights are kind of thrown up there. We're going to the wiener circle. And there's a little too much of them. You know what I mean? Right. There was no corporate voice to rein it in. Can I say the craziest New Year's I've ever had. Talk about it. Chicago going from Berlin, RIP to Scarlet. People throwing up in the streets. Me and Sam Taggart circa 2012. Wow. Blasting the supersonic racing soundtrack. The Sonic the Hedgehog soundtrack is full of house classics. Yeah, no one ever. When I put on my video game, I want to hear those club classics. Literally. It's actually Rural Culture number eight. When I put on my video game, I want to hear those club classics. Anyway. Oh, my God. I'm sorry. So our guest just gifted us these gorgeous Garrett. And it lit you up. I am so Chicago. I'm activated with Chicago. Let's go. Best summers in the country are in Chicago. Let's go. Let's go this summer. Oh, I love Chicago so much. Let's put me in Chanel in Chicago. I have not been able to stop singing the song. Put me in Chanel. Sing a lot of me. Put me in Chanel. No, it's got to be a record of the year nominee. Oh, that's interesting. I'm going to talk about it at some point on the pod. What we are going to talk about at this point in the pod is our guest. Wow. She is. I remember meeting her also pre-pandemic and being like, this fucking girl. Get this. Met her in Chicago because she opened up for me on tour. Love. Absolutely brought the house down at the Vic Theater in Chicago. One of my favorite theaters in Chicago. And basically, it was Love at First Sight. I always love at first sight. She's a Chai Con, a Chicago icon. She's a Chai Con. Well, actually, we're going to move past this. I just wanted to mention the first time I heard the term Chai Town was, which is also, is it Chai or Chai? So then there's a show on Showtime called The Chai. The Chai. The Chai. But I thought it might have been called The Chai. Well, we're not really the experts here. We have an expert here. We have an expert here. Her solo show is coming out March 17th. Fantastik's Day. Marguerite. Yep. It has a beautiful structure that I want to talk about. it really shines a light on live, laugh, love culture. Thankfully. Thankfully. The song by Journey. She hosts Literally Life-Changing. Is that what it's called? Thankfully? No. Journey's song is called... Faithfully. Sorry. Not to be confused with traitors. With traitors. Wait. Faithfully. Absolutely. This is all stuff we're going to get clarified by our guest, who's also an expert on Journey. An expert on Journey. She is a Chi-Con, a Chi-Con. I can't wait for her to clear this up. March 17th, check it out. YouTube and Upright Citizens Brigade distributors. Come on. Everyone, please welcome Maggie Winters. That is so crazy to hear those words. Well, the words that's in your name. Yeah, my own name coming out of your mouth. Andy Cohen's about to blurt your name out. I will be sick when that happens. Yeah. So you're going behind the bar. So is this happening Wednesday night? Yeah, but it will. So tonight, when this comes out. When this comes out. Or will it come out later? It will come out Sunday. See? No problem. So sorry, everyone. It's not live anymore. Watch what happens pre-taped. Well, he's having his tired. You know, he's got kids. Yeah, I don't know about that. You can ask him. What's up with the kids thing? So is that real or? It's Shy. Thank you. Shy town. Shy con. They say shy-ish, which my dad really doesn't like. But the shy. My brother was a set deck on the shy. Oh, so it's called the shy, not the shy. Not the shy. Do people ever call it the shy-er? Y'all are Lord of the Rings. That is, we should start saying that. You should start saying that. Well, then of course there was the bad thing people would say, shy-rock. Because they were, you know. Of course. Of course. People have to make everything bad a little bit. Of course. It's actually local culture number nine. People have to make everything bad a little bit. But not in Chicago. Including the person that told me to get a new hairstyle today. Let's talk about this. What was that about? I don't, I just, this is my hair. It's thin. What do you want from me? Well, I just take issue with you need, okay, so I brought up Maggie's amazing. I just want to really shine a line on this because it really kind of helped shift the paradigm a little bit for me. You and John earlier were talking about bean soup theory, right? So do you want to explain what bean soup theory is? Yes. so now I understand that it's an actual video a girl posted on TikTok for a recipe for bean soup of course we all love no I'm not a bean girl do you guys like beans? I love beans I love any soup my dad is like oh really? you need to hang out with my dad you're anti bean? no and it's the battle between me and my dad every day I see the battle he goes you need to be eating beans have you ever had a white bean lentil? no you can't talk about this you can't talk about this I can't talk about beans no yes you can Can you start with the bean soup theory? Yes, talk about the bean soup theory. Well, so a woman was like, here's my recipe for bean soup. First comment, I don't like beans. It was me. You need a new hairstyle. Yeah, and so, but the good thing I will say is I was talking about the bean soup theory in this video and someone commented, you need a new hairstyle. And then people right away were like, this is what she's talking about. Exactly. And I said, thank you. Which is the thing of like, so then this isn't for you. It's not for you. There's the entirety of human thought out there on the internet. Yes. You can just keep swiping. Or send it to the group chat. Yeah. So this, I hate beans and then they're probably going to ignore it anyway because it's so stupid. Well, you send it to the group chat so they can tell you what to think. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's like, hey, I wasn't sure of an opinion. What do you guys think? And then they, the group chat will always have a strong opinion. That's rule culture number 10. Yes. The group chat will always have a strong opinion. I'm already loving that we have so many rules of culture. So many rules. Three, eight, nine, and 10. I listen to this. This means a lot to me because I listen to this at my desk, at my job, in Chicago. In Chicago? In Chicago, where I live. In Chi? In Chi. In Chi- I'm sorry. Chicago. The Chi. The Chi. Did you have to eliminate an accent? Did I have to? Yeah. Yeah, it comes out sometimes. Yeah, but- It's out the south side. I guess, okay, I shouldn't say, did you have to eliminate an accent? Because I don't hear it all, like, when you speak. No, I don't have a strong one, but it depends on, like, if I'm with my family a lot. My mom is like, we're going to the Jewels. It's huge. I'm like, what? Uh-huh. Can I even point out, and I'm sorry, I don't mean to make you self-conscious, even my mom. My mom, yeah. My mom. No, can I say, I love Midwestern. Yeah. I love it. I almost picked it for my culture, but then I freaked out. Why? Just the culture of the Midwest? Yeah. Oh, no, we gotta talk about cheese balls or whatever. Cheese curds? Or cheese balls. No, cheese balls. The big thing of cheese balls? The big thing of cheese balls. Oh, my God. So good. I'm reducing, I'm bastardizing Midwest culture so much. No, but they would love, We're so sweet. We'd love it. First of all, I went to, I now occasionally will go to Grand Rapids, Michigan. Love. Because that's where Henry and Ethan live. Remember Henry and Ethan? Of course. Henry Kapinski. Kapinski. Oh, hi. No, no, no. Kapinski. Nice to see you guys. It's all coming out on the wash. But they live out there now. And they have the most lovely little life in Grand Rapids, Michigan. And everyone is, it's true what they say, kindness reigns. Of course. My mind was like, I think I like this little life. Remember that? What's that? Yeah. I think I like this little life. We can't restart it, but for so long it was a trend. I think people would just show them eating dinner. See? And it was a Midwest thing? Midwest best? No, it was all over TikTok. Where were you? Oh, I don't really do TikTok. No, it's good. I no longer have one. Because they'll tell you to change your hair. Because they'll tell you to change your hair. But I feel like you have a claim and a dominance over it. Yeah, because at some point it's just like I'm older. we're all the same age, I think. We're all metal horses. We're all 22. We're all 22. 22 years old. And I'm just like, people are like, you're so millennial about it. It's like, yeah, I am a millennial. So I'm going to be millennial. The use of millennial is like a bad word. I'm like, come on. I don't care. It really happened like that. Yeah. Sure. I'm hoping now it's at the stage where it's like people are kind of tired of it. Right. Well, I can't wait. No, it happens like that because as soon as you could put the word elder in front of it, then it had a stink on it, right? Elder millennial. So eventually you'll say Elder Z or Elder Gen Z or some such. You know what I mean? Although you didn't have Elder Gen X. No, you didn't. Can I say this is Eliza Schlesinger's fault? What do you mean? Her special is called Elder Millennial. It is, yeah. It's Eliza's fault. One of her many specials is called that, and I had never heard that before, and I was like, Elder Millennial. I opened for her once. I'll give her a call. give her a call Marguerite is the title of your special full name that's my full name it's my grandma's name French? Irish we're Irish yeah but it's definitely a French name although what's the story there? what did my grandma what was she up to? what were her parents up to? we have one of those little things in my house that says me and my two brothers names and then where it's from and the flower associated and like what it means. But mine says Spanish. It says Margarita Spanish. Okay. Oh, interesting. And it means royal and pearl. And pearl? Yes. Wow, royal pearl. And in French it means daisy. In French it means daisy, royal, pearl? In French, no, it just means daisy. It just means daisy. But all these words. Yeah, it describes it. And then it's like my brother Bart, my brother Liam, me. Talk about the brothers because they co-directed. They co-directed my special because I was really like, I want someone, because it's just about me. So I was like, I want someone who knows me and someone who's not afraid to be real with me. And they're not at all. They should be a little bit more. I do have to say this about my brother Liam is that he's the middle one, the taller one. Six, seven. Six, seven. You know, sorry. Of course. He, when you first got SNL, Bowen Yang, he said, he was telling everyone in town, you're from Aurora, Colorado. Aurora, Colorado. My brother, we have Aurora, Illinois, which is a suburb of Chicago. That's right. He's going to everyone. He's going, the new SNL guy from Chicago. He's telling everyone he meets. Another Chicago comedian. We're so proud. Someday someone goes, he's from Colorado. My brother goes, what? I've been telling everyone for years that Bowen Yang is a Chicago guy. I was accepting that because I was like, it's weird he never did Chicago comedy, but maybe he just went right to him. Sure, sure, sure. He is kind of a shy con. You are a shy con. I never have heard that, but I really like that. I made it up today on the way over here because I was thinking, oh, wow, she's a Chicago icon. She's a shy con. You're the first. Someone called me a Chicago fried comedian once and I ran with that. Chicago fried. Fried comedian? Yes. What does it mean? We don't know. We don't know. Totally. Chicago fried comedian. You're a New York fan? I think we're New York grilled. We're New York. Oh, interesting. New York grilled. You are New York grilled. I'm poached. I'm bland as fuck. Oh, stop. That's not true. People love poached. I don't get it. Poached is cute sometimes. Yeah. I never get it. You hate it. you're trying to stick up for it. Poached is good when you're like making soup. Oh, a poached egg? Because you're kind of poaching. Well, just like a poached breast, a chicken moment. And what's the difference between that and basting? Basting is like you're taking the juices and just like re-sort of applying it to the protein or the roast. Kristen Kish over here. No, no, no. Oh, my God. Interesting. Oh. Interesting. I would, I love Top Chef so much and I love watching these people and I'm just like, I could never do anything they're doing. And I'm going, that's disgusting. You're disgusting. Can I ask you a question? Please. Everyone becomes an expert. And with that in mind, do you miss Padma? Yes. And what do you think about the Culinary Cup? Wait, what's the Culinary Cup? Her new show. It's essentially her new show, which like is Top Chef, but not. Oh, I didn't know about this. And I was watching it and the trailer for it and I was like, I mean, of course I'm like all in because it's Padma and it's this. And I also miss Padma and Top Chef. all love and respect to Kristen Kish who was amazing. Padma just was a little can I say contier? Padma is top chef. Yeah, of course she did. She definitely was like what are you doing? Right, her delivery style was like did you always fuck up this way? Is this how you cook at Pochete? Is this a different culture thing? Right, right, right. But what do you think of this? Like there's a new top chef that is top chef but it's not top chef. So then I'm like was there drama? Did she want to come back? And they were like oh honey, I don't think so. You know. All right. I don't think so. Yoda coded. Yoda coded. Oh, honey, I don't think so. I don't. I feel like you never know. Maybe she just like saw an offer and was like, sure. Maybe she's making more money because it's like her show. Probably. And at the end of the day. At the end of the day. At the end of the day. At the end of the day. She came on this podcast a few years ago. And we found out that she is, you know, she wrote a glossary of spices. Hello. What'd you say? She wrote an encyclopedia of spices because she has like one of the most developed palates in the world. But this we knew. So what does that mean? Like you open a book and. Oh, yeah. And keep going. What do you what happens? You open a book and there's, you know, there's a whole page that's like paprika. And what it is. I'm like, what did you go on? Yes. I actually need that. I think. I think everyone needs it. But actually, this is this is no this. I'm going to say this for I don't think so, honey. Oh, save it. Or I can start. We can start now. Spices take up Like the footprint of spices in the home Is too big Like now I gotta buy a fucking book Sorry Padma but it's like The rack itself is taking up A whole ass counter But at that point it's kind of like When it rains it pours right It's like okay so you have all the spice rack You might as well have a spice glossary A spice encyclopedia written by Padma So that they go together Grease How often are you touching clove? how often are you touching? One time a year? Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving. Well, also, all throughout the holiday season if you make a, say it with me, hot toddy. Oh my god. Cloves are a huge part of hot toddy. It's actually rule culture number 11. Cloves are a huge part of hot toddy. It's technically not even a hot toddy if you don't have them. Do you like when the guest goes in with the rule? Yes! Because sometimes I'm like, I don't want to step on anyone's toes. No, no, no. I'm saying it at home. I'm listening and saying it with you guys. Our toes are flat. step on them these things have been flattened so oh my god I've got the biggest feet in America honey for a girl I'm not seeing it shout out to Paris Hilton she's the only real one who started a footline does she have large feet? size 11 feet Paris Hilton does maybe she got him shrunk I don't know but yeah at a time she was like I'm starting shoes for the girls that's even though the stars Even though the stars are crazy. Even though the guys are crazy? Even though the stars are blind. It really is a bop. And unfortunately, you can't hear it without going like this. Yeah! I don't understand. Are the stars blind, in fact? You know it doesn't matter. We gotta think about that one. We gotta think about it. You gotta get it a little high and you gotta eat the popcorn. You gotta think about that. I have a question for you guys. Do you think that the culture of taking out the spices from their original thing, putting it in a jar and labeling it and then putting it is good or bad? That is that's giving like the Internet that I'm not on. Yeah. I shudder out when I see it, which is like organization, like closet organization culture. Yes. Which scares me a little bit. It's not realistic. This is just my thing with spices and spice racks. if our life were The Sims, it would take up an entire tile in our home. You know what I mean? Like it takes up an entire Sims square. Sims square. And that's what I am like, but I'm not using this. Yeah. No. You know what I mean? What do you think is hard left? Is the Midwest culture? What do you think is the Midwest culture that people don't talk about enough? Oh my God. Because they talk about like food. they talk about. They're always like, you guys eat disgusting casserole food. It's like, it's good. It's good. I don't care. Pistachio salad, have you had that? No. It is kind of messed up. There's a couple of names for it. Ambrosia salad. That's cute. That's very like celestial heaven. Well, wait till you hear. It's like marshmallows, pistachios. It's like a, you can get it at the grocery store. It's gooped up. It has apples in it. It's so good. There's also a version that has Snickers in it. Stop it. People are serving this. I'm dead, seriously. And they call it a salad? Yes. Ambrosia. But salad is so much bigger and umbrella term. Yeah. I think anyone realizes what defines a salad? A colloid. Is there fruit or vegetable in it? Is that what it is? Because I was like fruit salad, obviously. Because I was like, is it just vegetable? But there's also fruit. Right. Yeah. Let us know what you guys think a salad is. I would love to know. I don't know about that kind of stuff. No, but I think there's like different versions. But you can get it at the grocery store and it's just like a sweet. Pineapples in it, I think. Okay. So maybe you don't know about this. That's a good one. Yeah, this is really good. No, this is huge. So far we have marshmallows, apples, pineapple. I haven't really heard pistachios yet. There is pistachios. Sometimes, I think a Snickers and salad is a separate one. There's definitely one that's like, yeah, but I think the marshmallows maybe melted a little bit. I've never made it, but I'll get it at the grocery store. I'm not scared to get it at the grocery store. No, no, no. I want you guys to try it when you go. I want to. Well, what aisle in the grocery store Or would it even be? Mmm. You gotta go to the deli and say, that green thing? Put it in a little pound thing or whatever. Of course. Chicken salad? Oh, big time. We love chicken salad. You know I had tuna today. Oh, I did see that. I greeted you with the tuna salad in the air waving. I don't eat tuna. What? And I know another thing, my dad's like, grow up. Me and my dad are fighting constantly about what I'm eating. And I'm not like a picky eater, just beans and tuna. Beans and tuna. Is it the smell? Yeah. Okay. But I do, I did really get into Seafood Lush two years ago. See, Midwest people and seafood, you have to hold their hand. Yeah, and my friend from New Jersey helped me. She held my hand. Jack Felker, I'll say her name. She tried to, first of all, I need to call her out because she's like, I'm going to challenge you to say the word Giardinero five times on the podcast today. I was like, I'm not going to do that. Giardinero? Do you know Giardinero? Okay, this is amazing. Tell us. I almost brought you that too. Giardinero is a Chicago relish almost. Giardinero. You can get it hot or mild. You put it on beefs. You put it on pizza. Sausage and giardiniera pizza, tavern style. When you come, we're going to get that. Okay, yes. And it's good. Yeah, giardiniera. And it's like olives and peppers and it's in oil. And this feels like a good thing for the summer. Yes. Or, you know, yeah. Yes. Well, anytime. Anytime. I put it on a sub. Oh, yeah. What do you say? Hoagie? Like, what's your? Oh, no, no. Sub. Sub. I couldn't believe hoagie was a thing when I first heard it. I was like, excuse me, what? Where is hoagie? Cut, cut, rewind it back. Hoagie? Hoagie is like Philly, Scrapple country. You know what I mean? Yeah. I felt the way about hoagie the way I felt when I heard about hasik. What's hasik? What's hasik? It's another word for an Ottoman, you guys. I'm pissed, yeah. Like, my friend Emily was like, over there on the hasik. And I was like, cut, rewind it back. What did you say? I just hit the mic. I didn't know what was going on. Hasek. Hasek. If someone said get the Hasek, for hours I'd be like, um. Has anyone else heard of this word? Hasek? I don't. Never? No one? Get the Hasek. I don't know. Okay, seen it on Wayfair. You've seen it on Wayfair. One of the most Ottoman-centric places you could possibly even think of. Yeah, when you saw it, did you know like, oh, I know what that is? Okay. Yeah. Right. Hasek. Ottoman is so much better. I'm having a hoagie on the Hasek. I'm having an hoagie on the Hasek. Sorry. That was Aurora, Illinois. Aurora, Illinois. That was Aurora, Illinois. Yeah, Jardineau, you guys got to have that. So it sounds like a tapenade. Yes, exactly. Okay, love. Yeah. Now, is it back in style to debate deep dish versus other? I don't do it. I decided one day it's a different thing I feel like like a long time ago like what was it John Stewart like popped off about it I don't the thing is you are over there arguing about it I'm over here eating pizza heaven's house yeah yeah yeah yeah my family eats deep dish pizza for Christmas Eve yep and did my co-worker call me white trash for that of course and now get these people out of your life I don't work there anymore I don't work good I don't work there but I remember being like Did you quit right then and there? I should have. I should have been like, no, I got, of course, let go. But, of course, I got let go. But 23 of us did. It's fine. 23 and me. 22 and you 22 and you We have for Christmas Eve we have pizza and Chinese food Because then on Christmas Day we like go cooking crazy But the day before, we're chilling. And what do you cook? I usually make the potatoes and the dessert. Okay. And you're hitting a ball. And you're touching two of the spices on the rack. Yeah. At most. Yeah. When people say you need a lot of spices for mashed potatoes, it's like get a grip. You know, I don't think. You do need some. You need some. But not like... And your brother makes the beefs? You knew it, yeah. Well, my one brother's a vegetarian. Surprise, surprise. Surprise. Ah, this is Liam or Bert? Art. That's not the tall one. He's 6'5". Well, he'd be 6'7 if he didn't eat. Oh my God, he's going to be pissed. Well, I hope everyone's pissed. This is the reason you're a shy con, is because I feel like earlier when you said you put it on beefs, when you pluralized beef, that feels Midwestern. Beefs. Beefs. Mr. Beefs. Mr. Beefs. Did you guys watch, of course I'm... Survivor? The Squid Game? I love Survivor. You love Survivor? I got into it. No, but I was thinking of, of course... Mr. Beast? Mr. Beast Games. Why can't I think of the name of the Chicago show about the chef? The bear. The bear. Well, I've lacked out the name because they won't let me audition, so... They won't let you? The one actor in Chicago, they're going, ha, ha, ha. Is it a lot of Chicago locals going out for the bear? Yeah, that makes sense. I'm seeing every... I'm watching and I'm going, everyone I know. I will say, I got a lot of text season. Did you watch it? I watched the first season Francine there's a there's a sister of like the two brothers and everyone was texting me like you gotta get that part and well of course Brie Larson did get it and it's like all my love to her yeah that became like that randomly became like a Will and Grace show where it was like okay and it's all the guest stars are Brie Larson so it makes sense that it's like they're not gonna they're auditioning celebrities or they're not auditioning what am I talking about oh I don't know I challenge them to have a shy con season I challenge them to have I think it's done though oh sure yeah I do think it's kind of wrapping up yeah it's wrapping up it's done well then I challenge a new show any show to be ShyCon show you guys ShyCon come on come on we just started it I have a question ShyCon challenge is it title of it? ShyCon challenge ShyCon? just ShyCon ShyCon Shy or Shy? 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The shyer one? The shy. The shy. He's shy. But you get one drinking him, he's in the corner, he's talking. And does his accent roar out at that point? Yes. My favorite thing about my brother is that in the Twitter era when everybody was like going off on Twitter. Being fun. Yeah, on Twitter was... I would go on late at night and my brother who had like two followers was responding to politicians, you are a ghoul he's so funny thank you you are a ghoul most are and like Liam's not doing that kind of stuff but he probably would be more on camera he wants to be like the writers they're both very funny hard to fit on camera at that height yeah right everyone's on on an apple box yeah that's true everyone else is on an apple box I'm sorry Liam it's over no Liam you could be it you could do it well he could just sit in a lot of the scenes he's I love that part. I love that part. Whenever I get to whenever I get to do any scene. Yeah. First, you're just grateful to be working. When I get to do a scene. Second of all. It's been so long. Second of all, you're like, is the character sitting? Could he be sitting? I think he could be sitting. Love that. I know. Love that. Whenever an actor is like, I think I'm going to sit. He knows what I'm talking about. My first day on Gemstones, I'm jumping out of a van in 90 degree weather. Plus size woman. if you didn't notice. I'm stripping sweat. And they're going, first, they go, stop, you're jumping off camera. You need to be jumping into the camera. I'm like, absolutely. Because I kind of didn't realize that when you show up, I thought they were going to be like, and this is how you act. And they go, expect it. No one tells you how. No one tells you. You got to kind of just know. Yeah. They're like, you're going to need to jump into the camera, not off. I go, great. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They would need a fan. Yeah, I'm, yeah. Right, I need a fan. But hold on, that means someone didn't set your mark. well it's like a moving van does that matter probably wait you had to jump onto a moving van or from well it's like I just spit okay pulled up stopped I jump out okay so it stopped it stopped okay so we don't have to call anybody no and if they ever want to book me again please it's no problem at all righteous gemstones let's let's book a shy con challenge to righteous gemstones It is also over, but maybe like... Is Righteous Gemstones over? Yeah, the season four it ended. It was a dream. Did it get canceled or did it end like... No, no, no. I think it was just, it was done done. I don't know. It's hard to tell sometimes, right? I hate when a show gets canceled. Pomeroyle was canceled today. Do you know Edie Patterson? She needs like another show. She is amazing. It's kind of insane that people aren't like puking every day thinking about her. Yeah, but she, I feel... I said puking. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. fucking hearing what? She, I feel like, is what they call an actor's actor. Yes. Where you probably would find a lot of people that, you know who else is like that? Paul Walter Hauser. He's the guy from I, Tonya. Oh, yes. Yes. Oh, I've met him a million times. He's amazing. He's really, really, really, really good and other actors often cite him as their favorite actor. Okay. Sebastian Stan says that. I know that because he's my favorite actor. He is so beautiful. He's one of the most appealing people. I watched Marvel a couple years ago. I decided to watch it all. Same. Oh my God. And it's like, you're like, okay, it's good. I'm loving it. During the pandemic, it kind of is touch and go because some of them are like, I leave and I'm like, that was actually really good. I truly loved WandaVision. I loved WandaVision. And then there's some movies where you're like, okay, that was the ride of my life. And then other ones, you're like, what is happening right now and why is it Pythagorean theorem? Yes, why do I have to go like this when I watch it? It is Pythagorean theorem to understand what's happening in Ant-Man. It's a pretty straightforward theorem. Pythagorean? Yeah, A squared plus B squared equals C squared. I forgot, are you math? Asian, yeah. Asian. And I'm white English. And I'm white Irish. Talk about St. Patrick's Day. talk about Ireland. Have you been? I've been, yes. I still have family there. Overrated or what? No. Do you think it's overrated? No, I've never been. Your English ass is coming in. I'm Irish too. No, of course. I am. My grandpa growing up was also like, you're also Italian. I'm about 2%. I'm mostly Irish. Did you do the 23 and me? Of course. My mom made me do that and Ancestry. Just to have a... Well, she has the whole map in Ancestry. She's like got us all. Yeah. She's the guy who found her cousin. She won't talk to us. I'm like, okay. Your mom wants to know everything. Because my dad's, what is the word, lineage? Yes. He's 100% Irish. It's all, we know that. And she's the Italian side. She's the mix, yeah. Got it, got it. We had family in both the North and the South during the Civil War style. Interesting. You know? So cinematic. I know. I want to know, and I want to know, I need to talk to them. Do your parents talk about the film Brooklyn? Yeah, of course. They're like, we saw Brooklyn. Are they Saoirse fans? Yeah. My dad is, anything Ireland and Irish, he's like supporting. So. Unless, you know. Oh, yeah. Conor McGregor or something. Right, right, right. So we have with us a shy con and an iron con. A shy Irish and a shy, yeah. You're shy. Yeah, so you said shy. Oh, iron con. Oh, I love that, yeah. I'm sorry. Shy con. I'm forcing it. The Irish really, you have to say Irish American. Of course. Do you have to? Yeah, they really don't like if you're like, I'm Irish. Which I understand because there's a lot of us coming at them like, I'm Irish too. But that's nobody's fault. No. And I'm from a place where it's like so many Irish immigrants landed in Beverly, where I'm from, in Chicago. And now there's all of us Irish Americans. And like, what are we supposed to be doing? Of course. We have a big St. Patrick's Day party, our own on the South Side. So downtown has one. I think that's the one that people don't like. The nasty one. People are puking. Sure. But the Beverly one. People are still puking, but it's a little bit more. But it's more. Your dad's there to rub your back. Oh, that's so sweet. My family has. We start with Catholic mass in our backyard, which is not big. You guys host mass? Yes. My uncle's, of course, a priest. Oh, I love that. Of course. Oh, my. That's beautiful. Talk about the experience. The first time I went, I was in sixth grade. I had a vampire tooth, which is a tooth up here. it's one of the there's one tooth that's a vampire I know exactly what you're talking about it is one of the scariest things anyone can go through if you're going through it I'm so sorry it's like your incisor went crazy yeah and so then you have to get like a brace go up there then it pulls it down so I look busted no Maggie I'm wearing Ireland shirts in Ireland of course I'm wearing shirts that say Irish in Ireland oh yeah that's a huge part of being there is the clothing that says Ireland wearing a beret in Paris like that of course that's me so young me coated so badly. And we went to my cousin's wedding and we went, I also went to my family's in Castle Island and Claire Island. Castle Island, they owned a bar. It was the first time I ever had Nutella. Oh. They were like, do you want some of this? I go, what the hell is that? I didn't say hell. I was young, but. You said, you maybe said heck. The heck is that? With my, with my bangs, with my tooth. There's a photo of it. I'll try to find it. And it was so brutal. Please. Went to your cousin's wedding Went to my cousin's wedding She had baked Alaska At the wedding That's all I remember When something's on fire Right Then my older brother Liam Like had a rum and coke And I remember I took a sip of it I go What is this But he was like 16 So my parents were like I ratted him out You didn't like it a little bit Rum and coke It's the most delicious thing I know It's delicious Two years later Or no yeah I guess when did I start drinking Are you guys young drinkers Um sure 14 Yeah same Okay so that's where it comes out. Yeah. That's Long Island. Come on. Long Island. And yeah. What was your first drink? Do you want to know? Yeah. Well, I'm scared. It was a tiny little plastic cup of Bacardi Raz. Because we were told that was the good one. And so we all and we would also experiment with Haterade. You know this. What's Haterade? Gatorade with vodka. Oh, yeah. Just absolutely. We would get a flask of Georgie vodka, which is the worst you could ever have. disgusting we had skull skull yes skull is something I hear about a lot like that's like the cheap ass rubbing alcohol vodka rubbing alcohol oh I recently had it like I made a video where I was like wait cause we would do that in orange juice sorry so you would not mix them no cause it's like just take the shot do it take two shots and I'm like I'm calling everyone I've ever met like I'm drunk yeah yeah yeah what was yours mine was um I was 14. You guys were a bit ahead of me. I started around 16. That's good. The first, my first memory of drinking in a way that was like intentional and like I'm getting drunk was Mike's Heart Lemonade to watch the program Heroes. Yep. Oh my God. We're going to drink Mike's Heart and watch Heroes is the most 2006 thing I've ever heard in my life. That's so beautiful. I know. And then, you know, I was finding out who Zachary Quinto was, you know. who Siler? Siler. Siler. He is famously Siler. In Heroes. I never watched Heroes. He killed Kristen Bell on that show. Get him. She was the cheerleader. No, she wasn't. No, that's Hayden Panettiere. That was Hayden Panettiere. By the way, these are my favorite names. Hayden Panettiere. Hayden Panettiere. When I first saw Serena Carpenter, I said, well, where is Hayden Panettiere? Because they might be the same. Oh, they are. I'm still not convinced. They are. I never thought about this. Well, apparently, Hayden Panettiere... Wait, is she in... Do you just horror movies? Not really. I don't think she's in the new Scream. Apparently, the new Scream... She was in the old one. Yeah. Oh, okay. She's in the old ones. She's in the old one, and then she came back in the last one. She's one of those characters that, like, dies every time. But then comes back? And then comes back and is like, hey. That was a rough one, guys. Yeah, well, you know, just heed my warnings. And it's like, okay. That is so Marvel, too. I can't believe... Okay, spoiler alert for... Scream 7. Okay. Mm-mm. I can't believe Nev Campbell lives. I mean... Because she's lived all along. I guess so, but it's like, you'd think they would turn something at the last second. Just end it and end it. Yeah, I don't know. I was just surprised. Then again, no, I guess I'm not surprised. I'm sure it was in her contract when they asked her back. They were like, Sydney is to live. Yeah. And I will maybe, I'm keeping this line open in case I need the cash. Which is not to say that's like the only motivation. And there's multiple ghost guys or what's going on? Now ghost faces everybody. Ghost faces everybody. Oh my God. Yeah. Or was this a guy? One of our friends was a ghost face. Are you serious? Jack Quaid. Oh my God. Was a ghost face. Boiler. Oh, sorry. No, no, I don't know. Did the ghost faces like get together? I never watched them. I'm sorry. Usually two of them get together. Okay. And it's a combination you'd never expect. Were they bullied or what? Usually their reasons are a lot crazier than that. Do the whole seven screams for me. Usually, and yes, I do watch these films. I haven't seen the last couple ones, but usually it's like years ago, you were involved tangentially with a murder that had to do with someone I know. So I snapped. And I'm going to get you. And I got together with this one, Reveal. I and the person takes off their mask and they go I barely have a reason I'm just fucking crazy and now it's become like I want to be you it's become am I wrong or am I right people watch the scream films it's not a scream you did see the new one so then I can just tell you usually the reasoning is like I didn't see the new one either but I did find out after what happened but basically it's kind of a thing of like either like I have a convoluted reason or I have almost no reason but aren't you gagged I kind of like that more just be psycho just be psycho just fucking go for it with your one wild and precious life be ghostface it's actually rollercoaster number 10 number 11 with your one wild and precious life be ghostface but don't actually I tried to do it and I fucked up. No, no, you're doing it. One wild and precious life. The Ghostface. So you've got to think, if there's seven Scream films, there's been what, 14 Ghostfaces? It's always two. It's pretty much always two. I never, that's crazy. I always thought it was one guy. Me too. I did watch, oh God, who's Michael? Uh-huh. Michael Myers, H2O. Yeah. Not H2O. H2O. Halloween. Halloween. He was always the same guy, right? he was maybe years later i think he was he because he is michael myers but then yeah then they tried to pull like oh he's the definition and he's evil incarnate so can't be killed they tried to sort of do like a mystical thing with him where they were like they started did a whole like harry potter voldemort like luke skywalker darth vader thing where it was like one cannot exist on the planet while the other reigns and it was laurie strode and michael myers and I won't spoil that. You have to watch The Kyle Richards Lives. Oh, do you think there's someone in the world that is true for you guys? Like, if they die, you live. So they have to be dead currently? Oh, that's true. No, eventually it will come to. Oh, eventually. I guess it's like your enemy. Yeah, I don't have an enemy. Name drop your enemy right now. I don't know. I don't have one. The person that said I need to change my hair, I'm commenting on them. Yes. It's each other for us. It's each other. That's who it is. That's how the pot ends. That's how the pot ends. That is a nightmare. The pot ends with one of our deaths. Holy shit. Scary. Do you have one? I don't think so, honey. Sorry. Do you say that every time? You say that I don't think so? Kind of. I mean, sometimes it feels like when we're out in casual company and it's like you say, I would never say it but then like sometimes you say it and everyone's like you gotta say it absolutely produce my special I love abso absolutely you know that on every call I was like absolutely absolutely and I was like oh my god stop no no they don't care though they don't care they care they picked the word absolutely and it's one of the greatest ways to say yes it's actually real culture number 12 absolutely is one of the greatest ways to say yes absolutely I did it okay I want to talk about this before we ask we have to do the question we're having such a bad. Oh, God, yeah, I know. But before we ask... I feel good. I was, like, obviously nervous. You were nervous to do the podcast? Of course. No reason. I texted you in a manic state, and then I was like, I have to do this now. No, I loved it. I thought it was the best idea ever that you come. I think I called. I was like, can I be the charity case? And you were like, shut up, of course. The charity case? Where is the charity case? What? We are... But do you know who's coming in right after you? Today? Yeah. I'm who? Nicole Kidman. I'm gonna fall to the ground. She's going to be in this chair? She's going to be in that chair. I'm going to leave her a note. I'm going to leave her a note. No, it's good. Anyway. Is she Australian? Okay. Yeah. Is she Australian? We'll ask her that. We'll ask her that. So are you Australian? Maybe wonder. We're trying to figure it out. The structure of the show, Marguerite, on March 17th is live, laugh, love. Yes. Explain this. So it's in three sections. basically from my own brain I was like I have a section live where I write stand up or do stories that have to do with my live basically where I've lived how I live yes laugh which would easily be like my comedy but it was more like that's more like about my body straight up because you're like gotta laugh my favorite of the three by the way laugh yeah come on come on and then love is about yeah I just like the love or lack of thereof gotta watch to find out And I have a video for each one to start that I did with either my brothers or my friend Parker. You guys know Parker Callahan? The name sounds familiar. He would love his videos. He is one of the funniest gay guys. So it's like maybe he's in a little bit. Jackpot. Jackpot. But he made a lot of my videos and he's so good, so funny. And then, yeah, just stand up and storytelling. I don't know. Perfect. I feel it sucks to like I want to just be like it's stand up but then people are like what's the kind of storytelling you're like just don't tell me what I'm doing like yeah a woman or even like anyone who's on a straight guy does like stand up and people like have to be like it's a little different so it's all it's this that is kind of how it gets filed away it's automatically alt if it's not crowd work or something oh my god you know what I mean are you guys dating? are you guys dating? I am I am doing like I'm trying to do a lot more crowd work on tour. I'm on tour with Connor Wood. Yes. And it's just so like, and sometimes I just literally will say, I don't care actually. It's like what makes it funny, but it's just like, I really, they're like, I go to school. I don't care. But they love that. They love that. To be negged. That's good. That's really good. It's just to be like, question, it doesn't matter. Did you ever do stand up? No. Yes, he did. Like barely. In the same way where I was like, which is why, which is like, because you were saying, like that coming in through like Sketch and Improv, which is similar to us, like it felt like it was the third thing that like felt like stolen valor if you tried it out. It didn't come up through like the traditional way or something like, so I always, I don't know, I still have that thing where I'm like, I can't really, I don't know for whose benefit, but like I can't really say that I earnestly did it. I tried for like a solid six months. Yeah. Yeah. Well then you did a lot more than my, a lot of Uber drivers I've had who told me. Well, I obviously have stopped saying I'm a comedian, but they pick me up from a place. I'm like, is it a comedy club? I've been thinking about trying it. I wish I could go. You're never going to. Yeah, totally. They would love that too. Instead, I'm like, give it a try, yes. That's a surefire way to get into it with an Uber driver, which is not a good idea. Right. I'm thinking about trying company. He never will. What? What are you talking about? What are you talking about? I'll do five minutes right now. Hold on a second. Oh, God. Chicago, the comedy town, I'm sure the people there, it's peopled by folks who want to do it. I just never liked stand-up as much as I liked doing other things. Yeah. Like, in a world where there's only so much time to do something, I liked sketch comedy more I liked doing characters more and I liked doing the musical comedy more Yeah So it kind of not this because I obviously have a lot of respect for everyone that does stand but it always felt like I wasn doing enough. Yeah. I had to come to the realization, like, I can do it in my own way. Truly watching Meg Stalter for the first time, I was like, oh, you can do what you want. Yeah, you can. And I think especially with women, like, we can do girly pop stand-up, not for everybody, it's not for the boys all the time. But even calling that feels weird, but it's like I can do my own style. And I start bawling my eyes out. Yeah. I can do whatever. You can do whatever you want on stage and people can deal with the labels later. Of course. Yeah. I mean, if you're enjoying it and people are enjoying it, then it's for someone. If you're laughing, I think we did it. Yeah, pretty much. If you're laughing, I think we did it. That's rollercoaster number 12. If you're laughing, I think we did it. it. faithfuls and start listening on the free iHeartRadio app today. Ever feel like you're being chased by the marriage police? Welcome to Boys and Girls, the podcast where dating isn't dating. Arranged marriage is basically a reality show, except the contestants are strangers and your entire family is judging. You're sipping coffee with one maybe, grabbing dinner with another, and praying your karmic ken or barbie appears before your shelf life runs out. Trust me, I've been through this ancient and unshakable tradition. I jumped in, hoping to find love the right way, and instead I found chaos, cringe and comedy. And now, I'm looking for healing. Boys and Girls dives into every twist and turn of the arranged marriage carousel. The meet awkward, the near misses, the heartbreak, and let's not forget all the jokes. Listen to Boys and Girls on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. When you feel uncomfortable, what do you put on? Biggie. You put on Biggie when you feel uncomfortable? Because I want to get confident. This is DJ Hester Prince's Music is Therapy, a new podcast from me, a DJ and licensed therapist that asks one simple question. Who do you want to be and what's the song that can take you there? Music changes what you feel and what you feel changes what you do, right? That moment where a song shifts something inside you, that's where transformation starts. This year, I'm talking to experts across every area of life, like personal finance icon Gene Chatzky, New York Times journalist David Gellis, relationship legend Dan Savage, human connection teacher Mark Groves, and the man who shaped my ear more than anyone, Questlove. They'll bring the strategies. I'll pair them with the right records and will teach you how to use the music to make change stick. This isn't just a podcast. It's unconventional therapy for your entire year. Listen to DJ Hester-Prince Music is Therapy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A ambitious, well-intentioned, ferocious, and wealthy mother looks like in the Black community. This Woman's History Month, the podcast Keep It Positive, Sweetie celebrates the power of women choosing healing, purpose, and faith, even when life gets messy. Love, it's not a destination. You have to work on it every day. Keep It Positive, sweetie, creates space for honest conversations on self-worth, love, growth, and navigating life with grace and grit, led by women who uplift, inspire, and tell the truth out loud. I have several conversations with God, and I know why it took 20 years. To hear this and more, listen to Keep It Positive, sweetie, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. We have to ask you the question. This is the central question of Las Culturistas. It really is. What was the culture, Maggie Winters, that made you say culture is for me? Yeah, I was, you know, this is a big one. And I think everyone thinks about this for years who listens to this podcast. I was thinking about this and like, I was like Midwest, but I was like, let me go a little bit more. Every Friday night growing up, we did pizza movie night. Yep. Heaven. TGIF. movie or TGIF programming on NBC into one Saturday morning. But the idea of eating food while being entertained has been consistent throughout my life of pure joy. So you're an Alamo Drafthouse fan? Never been. We only have one in Chicago. There's one in Chicago. But it's in Wrigleyville. It's like, I'm going to go to the Cubs zone. I'm going to go to Cubs zone. And are they striking? I can't keep up. Oh, are they always striking? Now I think they're good, right? Alamo Drafthouse is striking? No, it's just every now and then. It's like, oh, right, they're on strike and we can't go. Which is gorgeous. Oh, overworked. Overworked. Barbenheimer was tough. Barbenheimer was tough for everybody. Every other movie. No one was talking about him. Come on. Sorry. It was all about Barbenheimer in the summer of 2023. I watched, I didn't do the Barber and Heimer, but I did watch them both at different times. That's good. Okay, so eating and being entertained. On Friday nights, we'd get, yeah, we'd get a pizza from either this place Milano's or Rosangela's. Uh-huh. Tavern style, which was the squares. Yes. We'd go to Village Video. Village Video! Rest in Peace. Rest in Peace. And I'd get a movie and it's usually like, let's, you know, Harriet the Spy. Love Harriet the Spy. Rest in Peace. Rest in Peace. Yeah, I used to like put a magnifying glass under my bag because I was like, I'm like modern day. Modern day. What the hell? Or go and like just to be like her. She was so cool. Or Little Princess, Mary Kay and Ashley. And then my older brothers would get a lot of like Chris Farley, Adam Sandler, SNL style movies. And I would try to watch them with them. And that's when I was like, oh, I love comedy. I was like, but I don't know if girl can do it. And then one day I was like, well, girl can do it. Girl can do it. Girl can do it. And just watching, yeah. Friday nights eating pizza and just like sitting in my house and just like being home. And then now today, like the thought of going home, having a food you want and watching a show like queued up. There's nothing better. Nothing. I can't watch a show without eating. I know. And it is a little weird now. I'm like, well, I can't. I actually can't press play on this until I know my food is at least coming. Yes. Or you even flip the order where I'm like, I live alone. and let's say, food's here or my meal's ready. Well, I got to put a fucking YouTube video on. You know what I mean? Always. Got to do both. Got to do both. Got to watch and eat. Even though like so many, whatever like articles are like, you should be eating like just you and your food. And look at this fucking... Concentrate on the food. I'm like, that's disgusting. What for? Who wrote that? I don't know. Who wrote that? We forgot about that. We forgot about that. What have you been binging or watching and eating? Oh, my God. All these things at the set. Because I want to ask you both if you've watched the JFK show. No, but that's on my list. It should be on your list. Just for her hair alone. Okay. People are laughing. You've seen it. Sarah Pidgeon is playing Carolyn Bissette. Yeah. But really, it's so much about the hair. like there are scenes where it's it's so like a character i would have done in my 20s coded like just the longest most luxurious blonde head of hair which i don't think is a wig oh i don't think it's a wig anna is shaking her head no she doesn't think it's a wig either there'll be moments where she just take you know that cool girl thing of like do you just take your one whole thing of hair you just go to let me just put it all on one side and the movement of the hair and the way it lands. Gotta be thick. It's like, it's just crazy. And I'm just like, they really, and she's an incredible actor, but you have to imagine she walked in and they were like, well, with that hair. You're it, yeah. You gotta be in. Totally. Don't say nothing of him who, handsome guy. And get this, Fraser was his modeling agent in London. This actor? Yes. Fraser was a modeling agent? Fraser was a modeling agent in London in his 20s. And one of his clients was Paul Anthony Kelly. Paul Anthony Kelly, that's his name. I'm looking at everyone in this room like they know and they don't. So that's his name. Fraser was his modeling agent back in the day. That is so random. Isn't it the most random sauce? That just tells you how small the world is, really. Oh, my God. Truly. I was hoping that you guys had watched it, but you haven't yet. What have you been? Obviously a lot of Bravo all the time. I just finished Industry. Okay. I knew you'd say this. Oh, you knew. Because you're so smart. I don't know. Sometimes in that show, I do have to read the recaps because I'm like, what is happening? You're having trouble following. Yeah. I'm not. But I do like to watch it because it makes me feel smarter. I'm like, right, right, right, right. But then I go on Instagram and it's like the show of the moment. And some people are posting it and I'm like, this dummy? What is it? Oh. I can get into it if this dummy. Yes, you can. If this dummy's gagging, I can watch Industry. It's actually really close to number 14. If this dummy's gagging, I can watch Industry. Maggie, it's fine. I just said if this gaggy's dumming. If this gaggy's dumming. If this gaggy's dumming. Gabby Wendy invoked. Gabby Wendy invoked. Because when you were watching Succession, there was a curve there where you were like, well, now everyone's saying the word bear hug. Yeah. And I have to find, I have to Google what that is. But industry, it's coming at you like Gatling Gun. Ba-da-da-da. Like, ba-da-da-da-da-da-da. They're not always on the phone. Like, we're going to shorthand the, what? Right. It's like Grey's Anatomy. Oh. But you, but like with medical terminology, but the whole show. I never watched Grey's, but I do, I am watching The Pit. Of course. Because I watched Nurse Jackie and I loved it. And I was like, I need more medical. I did The Pit. You weren't a Chicago Med person. Oh, shoot. No, that's okay. I will audition. Why? Did you watch Chicago Med? No. Oh, okay. I don't know why I brought it. But if I was like, yes, I'm a huge Chicago Med girl. Yes. I love it. Oh, my God. Did you watch, like, growing up, did you watch Boy Meets World and all that? Yes. Sabrina. Sabrina. Did you watch One Saturday Morning? Yeah, one Saturday morning. Pepper Ann. Pepper Ann. Recess. Recess love. I almost was going to say my culture is the Ashleys, but I was like... The Ashleys. They were all named Ashley. That show got something right when it talked about six or multiple girls having the same name. Four girls named... Four. But then Spinelli was a secret Ashley. I remember one day they were like, you have to join the Ashleys. And she was like, no. Yeah, I don't want that. I don't want to conform. But they were very diverse. Like, they were those girls. They were those girls. Spinelli was Beanie Pigtails. pigtails. Yes. She queer. Of course. Yeah. Her and the big guy. Her and the big guy. Don't you think? Recess, a show with a theme song that has no words. Can you sing it? That's huge. Oh yeah. I mean, that is that is cunty as fuck we're a kid show and the theme song just score and you're gonna remember every note it's gonna imprint oh god like come on recess my dad would make pancakes he loves making pancakes to this day he had a minute where he was burning them for like two months straight and we had to be like you gotta stop why was he burning them cause his thing was too hot his grill was too hot too hot to handle too hot to handle and then he got a better grill Yeah, yeah. I'm marinating on this thing of the theme song. Do you consider Doug to have words if it was... No. I guess it just really depends on if you consider do a word or... Which it is. It absolutely is. Was his sister Judy? Judy was the sister? No, I think her sister was Patty Mayonnaise. That was his love interest. Oh, right. What are you doing over here? I don't know. You know what I'm doing is I'm realizing how far away from my childhood I am. Oh, no, I know. That's why I was, when I was thinking about this, I was like, oh my God. It's a tough one. I don't remember a lot of it. And I'm wondering now if it's time to sort of go back and just revisit. I don't know, but would it even like give you what it gave before? I think it might. I mean, like nostalgia does rock. What it does, you know what's good for that though? Is Simpsons. Simpsons is like, and apparently recent seasons, it's like, but you know what they're coming up? You know my family, Simpsons. you're Maggie and Bart Liam Bart was born before the Simpsons started those are these are family names whoa so were they like I can't believe our kids are named Bart and Maggie no they could they don't even talk about it they don't care that's so cool Bartholomew that's Catholic shame yeah that's oh my god we're Bartholomew William and Marguerite but we're Bartley and Maggie Bartley and Maggie and Liam is the male version of Lisa basically and he went to the he is because he went to the um an academic gifted school did he actually yes and did I try to test to get in of course and did I get in no look where you are thank you you know Lisa Simpson I don't want to say she's a red flag but there's a lot there's a lot of gay guys that like sort of like are like Lisa Simpson and I'm like they think they're Lisa Simpson and that's a red flag assuming you're Lisa Simpson is like kind of like you're a child who wears pearls get out I can't even She did wear pearls She wears pearls Did Marge wear them too? Marge has She had pearls She had pearls but she's a mother Yeah she's a mother She's allowed to She's allowed I was just thinking maybe she's like I gotta dress my little But then where was Maggie's pearls? Maggie She was a baby The pearls were too heavy How does it feel to be Maggie's the cutest obviously I was her for Halloween once and everyone goes Are you the Statue of Liberty? Shut up I said Is the Statue of Liberty blue? With the pacifier. You're an idiot. You're an idiot. This is, yeah. It's the statue. You have a great clue. With the pacifier. Let's answer that question. But wait, can I say, apparently they got rid of couch gags on The Simpsons. In the beginning opening? Because it just saves time. Because there's more time to do the show. I don't like that. What? It took three seconds. And we love to see each time what it was. I loved it. But they must have ran out of ideas. No way. Get new writers. Stop. You guys should do that on this couch. Every time you come in. Yes. I'm still, I don't know about this couch. Okay. What do you think about it? I do feel like I'm interviewing you guys. What do you want to ask? I'm here with Matt and Bowen. They have a podcast together and they're gay guys and they're friends. And I'm here to get down to the nitty gritty. Have you guys ever kissed? I don't know. That's all I can think of. On a New Year's. Did you really? Like a peck on New Year's. A peck on New Year's. Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense. Right. Have you ever kissed us? Yes. No. Do you kiss your closest friend? I'm trying to think if I, well, no, yeah. My, I have girlfriends from growing up who like, there's two of us that are queer and the rest of them, like we get drunk and they're like, let's kiss. And it's like, you guys, they all have husbands. Right. So like we give them a kiss and they're like. It's like, hee, hee, hee. Yes. But did you ever have a friend in middle or elementary school, like in those young years where like things got a little bit? No, I wish. I wish to. Like everyone talks about that. I was just too like, I don't want to say like I was, I'm not like saying she was a loser, but like I, you know, you thought of myself as one, you know what I'm saying? When you're like little and you're chunky and you're like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you're saying that you thought of yourself as a loser. Of course. And so therefore you were, of course. So I was like, I don't get to kiss anybody. I'm right there with you. But also like, yeah, it's like so sad. Like I wish I could go back and be like my, but even I say that, but then even now I'm like, who am I going to kiss? Like get away from me. Exactly. There was, the only reason I say it is because a lot of people are like, oh yeah, I mean, of course my one friend in middle school where, you know, you're like jacked each other off or whatever the fuck. And I was just like, people talk about this like it's a thing. It was not a thing for me. I had one very, very close friend in middle school where if it was going to happen, it was definitely going to be with him because we would do sleepovers and we would like talk about each other's bodies and stuff. And this is the time when like everyone was horny, like no matter what. Yeah. And I was like thinking back, like we were like 12 or 13. And I was just like it was like maybe better that it didn't happen because it could have gotten weird. But I do look back and I think like everyone or not everyone, but a lot of people I've talked to that are gay guys have had that experience in their past with guys that ended up being straight and are now married with kids. Yeah. Probably never looked back. Yeah. You know, but like you look back and you're like, yeah, I was a little gay with some of my friends sometimes before the voice in your head told you, don't do this. It's bad. You were trying it out. Yeah. But there is that it makes me a little bummed out. Yeah. Like people get so like rigid. And then I wonder, I do wonder if looking back, like, the knowledge that we were really close made us not be friends anymore. Yeah. You know what I mean? Ugh. Because we weren't friends in high school. And I would, like, see him around and I'd be like, remember when we were best friends? Aw. And we talked about each other's bodies. We talked about each other's bodies and, like, got boners next to each other. Oh. And now we're not. Yeah, at least, like, I'd never have to deal with that kind of thing. Right. We don't talk anymore. Charlie Puth, man. Like we used to. I was rudely being like, why did Charlie pierce his eyebrows? Someone was like, that was a dog bite. And I said, I'm sorry, Charlie Puth. I like to publicly apologize to Charlie Puth. Oh, that's okay. For my blog. What's up with Charlie Puth? Full blog. Bring blogs back. Oh my God. You could. Substack. People are going blog. Oh yeah, they go ape shit on Substack. The way that you, you were smiling, Bowen, and when I said Substack, the biggest frown in the world. No, because I'm thinking through, So like Substack, is it blog? Substack feels like a different model where. Yeah. The LiveJournal, Zynga, Blogspot, Ecosystem. MyZynga. I got bullied on MyZynga. No. Maggie, all of these. Bullied everywhere. Are people being awful to you? I got bullied on MyZynga, which it's like, it was someone that like I knew, of course. You let them in. Yeah. And they bullied me. And my thing was like, dear Zanga or whatever the hell, I'm having a great day. I went to the park and then it was like, someone bullied me on it. Delete my Zanga. What did they say? I guess I'm never going to the park. Yeah, they were like, I guess the park's ruined for life. I guess the park sucks. No, like something's so mean. But it is funny to laugh, but then I did obviously talk about it in therapy for years where I was like, my Zanga. My therapist was like, yeah. Shout out to my therapist, Elizabeth. Elizabeth. I told her I was doing this and she was like, she's been with me for six years. Isn't that crazy? She knew what the hell this was? Yes. I have a genuine pitch. Because it's like I mean this is so recency bias. Get a Nintendo DS and play any old Pokemon game. It'll feel like you're on your phone for hours but you're just leveling up your Pikachu. That is great advice. And it's actually not hurting anybody. You're just pumping your brain with cute little animals. And it's making Pikachu stronger. It's making Pikachu stronger. I didn't know a lot about Pokemon, but I did love Jigglypuff. Aesthetically and just culturally. I love the singing little songs, yeah. Yeah. You know who else loves Jigglypuff? Lady Gaga. Lady Gaga. Who is that? Who is that? Me almost crying. Who's that? Who's that? She's for real Italian. She's for real Italian, yeah. She's not my fake grandpa Italian. She's Italian-American. Oh, my God. Yeah. Lady Gaga. Lady Gaga. I saw her at Lollapalooza. Do you remember? Do you remember going there? I want to go so badly. I used to serve alcohol at it. Really? So like at the bar? Yes, I worked. At the bar and people would come up and be like, one beer, please. And I'd be like, what beer? There's about seven. And they'd be like, you know, just the classic. I'm like, okay, you're 15. Or you're from out of town. Oh, that's true. Because that's another like Midwest thing as I was like, we have a lot of different beers. We know about a lot of beers. Not everyone does. But it says it on the thing. Like I need to know which one. Totally. But also like the young people. I'm going to give you the beer. Sorry to... I don't work it anymore. Sorry to the law. The law. I'm sorry to be clear. I'm sorry. Charlie Puth and the law. We've got it down. You know, a lot of people get very sick at music festivals because they get alcohol. They're dehydrated. And they're too young. And you shouldn't have done that. No, if they just... You're the law. If they had a good idea and they were like, oh, one guy came up to me. He was wasted. I handed him a water. And then he walked away. He didn't know where he was. Great. Oh, thank you. oh thank god for you but you're saying it's clearly these young kids when they're like i'll have a beer and you go which one and they go as you said a classic which is never a classic and i don't even drink i don't like beer i like everything else like so i don't know what the classics are what beer well a classic well a classic of course classic well this reminds me i've told this story before on the podcast but this was when i was clearly underage at a bar in brooklyn and um just because i had seen it in movies i go um can i have a beer and um and i'll have one for the road too. And then the bartender looks at me and goes, that's extremely illegal. That's extremely illegal. I was like, one for the road too. I forget. This was like in Brooklyn somewhere. This was like junior year at NYU. It was, one of my, one for the road. I bet, I bet he remembers. He was like, this crazy Asian kid. I bet he's like, that's Bo, that was Bo and Yang. That was Bo and Yang. One on one for the road. My fake ID said I was 5'5". What's that? My fake ID said I was 5'5". Mine also said I was 5'6". Nobody was, they were like, yeah, okay. And nobody cared. Yeah. Well, I got away with it until I really didn't. Yeah. And they were like, okay, I'll just, the name on it, should I say the name? Because it was a real person. Say it. It was Abzug. And the name was spelled like this, A-B-C-U-G. and I was like this is a real person like a friend of a friend gave me this fake ID not only was it like not me in the picture it was 56 and the name despite it being real looked fake so I was like what name has ABC all in a row like none you needed to think about it that is so good what's your last name it's gonna be so let's just do ABC yeah let's do it What if we went right to you? Yes. This is really good. And then go back to you. For the people coming up with the names for the IDs. Mine was a real girl. Her name was Maggie. Maggie, Maggie. But it was like Margaret. She had curly brown hair, but the 5'5 thing. I was like up here like, here's my ID. Yeah, totally. Yeah. But it worked. It did work for a little bit until it expired. And then they were like, this is expired. I was like, come on. Yeah. Come on. I turned 21 in Europe. And the way they did not care. Of course. I was in Amsterdam. I'm like, I'm 21. and they go, we can drink here when we're five. So we don't really. Of course. I drink Heineken's. Disgusting. Sorry to them. I just don't like beer. I just don't like beer. No, that's okay. You don't like it. No, I like wine, liquor, everything else. Yeah. But what's like a Chicago beer? Like, um. 312. Yeah, yeah. Anti-hero. Um, Bell's too hard at his Michigan, right? Yes. Yeah I do know that My brothers are obviously my dad They all drinking beers Of course Oh yeah It like the beans of beverages They having beans and beers and I not having any part of that Hey, this is Wells Adams with By Order of the Faithfuls podcast alongside my fellow faithfuls and co-hosts, Tamara Judge and Dolores Catania. The three of us have been watching this season of The Traitors, and we've been inside that castle. so we have insight unlike many others. This season of The Traitors may be the best we've ever seen. 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You're sipping coffee with one maybe Grabbing dinner with another And praying your karmic ken or barbie appears Before your shelf life runs out Trust me, I've been through this ancient and unshakable tradition I jumped in hoping to find love the right way And instead I found chaos, cringe and comedy And now I'm looking for healing Boys and Girls dives into every twist and turn Of the arranged marriage carousel The meet awkward, the near misses the heartbreak and let's not forget all the jokes listen to boys and girls on the iHeartRadio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts well I'll tell you what we're having is a round robin I don't think so honey I can't believe this yeah you've done it yeah I did I need to preface was I at that one no that was that was the one me and Pat Regan co-hosted am I going first no don't you worry I'll go first I'll go second you guys both looked at me and I was like something changed just we looked at you expectantly like Freddie well this is where we take one minute to rail against something in culture Matt has kind of volunteered to go first yeah well traditionally I do I have the timer ready to go this is Matt Rogers I don't think so honey his time starts now I don't think so honey everyone's sleeping on Tyla The singer Tyler Now I looked I don't think anyone actually is sleeping on her Because I looked at her Spotify streaming numbers And she has about 36.7 million listeners a month Which is so many But I will say maybe it's an I don't think so honey to me Because I recently watched the Tyler performance of Chanel on The Tonight Show This should be the climax of every gay guy music video night I didn't know that she had live vocals like this I didn't know that she could move her body like that. I didn't know a woman could be so gorgeous. A shoe could be so iconic. She does the performance outside of like, I guess it's a Chanel heel. I've never experienced anything like this song. I love it so much. I listen to it constantly. The song Chanel by Tyler. It's got to be a record of the year nominee. And one thing I will also say is that my TikTok algorithm is now only Donald Trump AI doing the dance, which sucks. but I don't think so honey. And that's one minute. Chanel and the shy. Unfortunately now the, the TikTok algorithm or not TikTok cause I don't have it anymore. My reels algorithm is just, it found out I like this song and I guess a popular TikTok trend, not I guess it is, is the, the Chanel dance. Yeah. And it's just AIs of like Trump and Kim Jong-un. They're obsessed. Doing it together. And I will, I will send them to my friends and they'll be like, we don't like this. Right. And I'll be like, I did, But I can't deal with it alone. No. You need a friend. It's just like, it's like Donald Trump in a bikini, like going back and forth with Hillary Clinton in a bikini. I made that one. And it's like they're doing the Chanel Tyler dance. And I'm just like, I can't deal with social media anymore. It's just not. No. I can't do it. And if you watch it for more than four seconds, which you can't not because it's like, what? It's sticking. It sticks. They go, you like that. And then your algorithm is cooked. Yeah, yeah. Well, there you go. Yeah, that was... I'm going to put some more... I'm going to put some more respect onto the highlight. It's okay. You live, you learn, and then you speak. You lose, you learn. Can I look at your phone? Because I need to use it for Bowen Yang's time. This is Bowen Yang's I Don't Think So, Honey. His time starts now. I Don't Think So, Honey. As mentioned before, the spice wrap. Yes. The spice... What? I want the spices in three jars maximum. My home cannot accommodate a rack of any kind except a gorgeous pair of breasts. If it's going to be... My goodness. If it's going to be... Oh, God. Like, I can't even come up with... I can't even think of the spices. Paprika. 30 seconds. Nutmeg. Saffron. Cloves. Cloves. Garlic powder. Garlic powder. I'm good with the actual thing. Thank you. Onion powder. I'm good with the actual thing. Thank you very much. What did you say? No, that's a sauce. A spice rack. Ketchup. It's a thing that we give to each other at Christmas time. No, it takes, as I said, it takes up an entire SimSquare. And that's one minute. Oh my God. I was shocked that I knew. too. That's on a croque monsieur? Yeah. Or just for any white thick sauce like mac and cheese. What did you mean about you're good on the powder? What do you mean I'm good on the powder? You'd rather just have garlic? No, I'm saying... Are you doing cocaine at home? If a recipe calls for garlic powder, I've got a garlic press. I think what you were doing was you were using coded language. I'm good on the powder. I've got plenty He has a pizza party. Oh my God. Wait, I love nothing more than pizza party. Oh, then Pete's on Friday watching a movie. And we're eating whatever kind we want. Yes. And I forgot to say this. The big style in Chicago is more tavern than it is deep dish. No, of course. But deep dish is still good. Detroit style, incredible. Incredible. Detroit style. Oh, we have, what's the Detroit chain? Jets. We have Jets here. So the ranch is out of this world. Oh, I love ranch. And I don't usually go crazy with ranch, but you can get a little bottle. It's like, they're Midwest. Come on, Jets. I'll never think of deep dish pizza the same way again, though, because when we years ago went to Chicago Sketch Fest, we were performing with our- Which, like, doesn't exist anymore. Doesn't exist anymore. We were performing with our musical sketch comedy group called Pop Roulette. We went to Giordano's. We absolutely went. It's not the one to go to. I know it's not the one, but it was next to the theater. You had to, yeah. We had to. I know exactly. We went ham on deep dish, And then we did our musical numbers, which we were just bouncing around. We'd jump up and down. And it was just like the hardest ground ever. And we could just hear everyone going, oh, oh, oh, oh. Just like all the pizza inside us. You got to go to sleep. You got to lay down afterwards in the one bathroom we were all sharing. There was nine of us. There was nine of us. We all took turns. We were like, oh. And then for some reason, we all went to Pequod's the next day. Yeah, we went to Pequod's the next day. Because we were like, we're in Chicago. We get to do deep dish every night. So 25, you know what I mean? Like it was very different. Things didn't affect us then, yeah. No, they didn't affect us then. My God. Okay, Maggie, it's time. Should I preface mine or should I say it afterwards, what I want to say? What do you move to do? What feels right? I'll say after why I did this. Okay, I love that. So you guys are ready. Why I did this. There's going to be an afterward, but we always have a discussion after. A post-script. A heart's racing. A post-script of I don't think so, honey. This is Maggie. When it says I don't think so, honey. Her time starts now. I don't think so, honey. Matt and Bowen. I don't think so honey First of all You didn't come to Chicago In 2017 Because you were in Washington D.C. Or wherever the hell What were you doing Shaking ass I was writing for the Television series The other two Yeah I'm sure And oh One of my favorite shows Am I jealous Yes I don't think so honey Bowen What is your best friend Ariana Grande Yeah I'm jealous I am the Me too I am the comedian Of Christmas Pass Here to remind you Of your past Okay Don't think I didn't Look up a little show Called Lake Homo High Oh We need you to bring the run back to a noise theater I don't think so honey Sam Taggart where are you I don't think so honey me you guys graciously Having me on this podcast and me trying to drag you I'm not actually dragging you I don't think so honey Everyone in the room not laughing at this That sucks I don't think so honey You guys are great but you guys need to come back to earth We do five seconds The union hall called you're doing a show tonight Yes let's go union hall You know what's funny is when we used to do shows at Union Hall, no one would come. No one would come. Like, I remember we did a whole show like as popular one time with the band and everything and I was like, why can't we fill it out? I know. It was like eight people. We did a great cover of Your Love is My Drug by Kesha. We did. It's great. They're not laughing because they agree with you. No, I'm totally kidding. I was just... No. You don't... Now, why'd you do that? So, well, in 2018 was it? 2018. I picked the troll bowl. Rest in peace. Where is she also? She's around. She's dormant. I picked the troll bowl and I got you. Oh, really? What'd you say? I think, because you were in D.C., I was like, you love Trump, obviously. I don't remember. I blacked out. Wait, why was I in D.C.? I don't think I was. I think I was. You were somewhere. It was because of the other two. I was writing on the other two. On my mind, you were in D.C. But I got you, so I was like, and then I also wanted to do this in respect to Annie Donnelly. Yes! We were just talking about Annie Donnelly. She was the one that told me about Lake Homo High. Is that what it's called? Yes, that's what it's called. She's like, tell them that they need to get to the run. Oh my God. See, you know what? Lake Como High was actually a highlight. It was a highlight because we were writing in 30 pages every week of script. I heard there was a straight guy in it you were mad about. There was? Oh, maybe there wasn't. Lake Como High was actually how, was it how we met Patty Harrison? It was. Oh, I think it was. I met Patty Harrison at a show called It's a Guy Thing, hosted by Mutra Jahari. Oh, I loved It's a Guy Thing. It's a Guy Thing. They came to Chicago. They came to Chicago, of course. They did, they did. No, Lake Homo High was how we met, like, I want to say, like, Jaboukie. Definitely Jaboukie, but I think I met Patty Harrison doing Lake Homo High. So Lake Homo High, for everyone at home, was a, like, Dawson's Creek-esque, like, soapy, like, teen show that Sam Taggart created. Were you a co-creator of that? I was kind of, yeah. Like, I was helping. it was both of our ideas but it was very much Sam's brainchild. Because it feels like Sam. Yeah, it's very Sam. He got astray when I said I don't think so much Sam Jagger. But it was all gay guys that went to this high school. Oh, I wish I could see this. We would like rotate the scripts and like it was always just like a lot of, you know, it was espionage, it was love, it was... I was supposed to say Ghost of Comedians Pass and I said Comedian of Christmas Pass. Christmas Pass? Which feels right. I really was like, I didn't say anything mean and I was still scared. But I don't remember what I said about you. I just remember being like, I can't believe you're not here. Would have been not good enough for you. Totally. Someone got Kat. I remember Cohen. I don't think they knew who she was. They were like, okay, Kat. And everyone was like, this just sucks. That was the time of our lives in Chicago. That was such a fun show. The dream. And I remember I came up to you because we didn't, we can't, it's, it's actually too much time to get into the Disney of it all. No, no, please go. well because I worked there you worked at Disney World yes in Orlando yes at the college program at the college program which like is yes we talked about this because I there were friends from Aurora Colorado who like were like big Disney heads and they were like their dream was to work in Orlando through the college program I worked in Tomorrowland the worst ride of all time one of them Stitch's Great Escape oh yes Stitch's Great Escape rest in peace rest in peace and then the People Mover the People I was going to say See, the People Mover is a classic. I love the People Mover so much. I got Neil Patrick Harris on it. Stop it. I said, get on. He's at Disney World. Yeah, he's at Disney World with his kids. Is Carousel Progress still there? Yes. It's getting refurbished. It's actually getting like, it's apparently getting, the rumor is, I can't sometimes with how I am. The rumor is that it's getting like a Walt Disney animatronic. It should. And the Carousel Progress is getting like updated. Have you heard about Villains Land? Of course. But I heard that it's like... Now there's drama. Yeah. What's the drama? So Josh DeMauro became the CEO of Disney. And so there's big changes because he came from parks. And he was like, the plans that y'all were dreaming up for Villains Land are not good enough. Go back to the drawing board and do more. Because they feel the heat now from Epic Universe and Universal. So a lot of Disney World is getting... They're putting billions and billions of dollars into the park. I can't wait. I was just there with my family. Encanto is going to go into Animal Kingdom. They're making what was the dinosaur area, Tropical Americas. I see. So it's getting Encanto, and it's also getting Indiana Jones is replacing dinosaur. But not the Indiana Jones from Disneyland, a new version of it. This is the thing, though. Universal's got Nintendo and Pokemon now. Like you can, that's the number one franchise. I understand, but I love Universal, but like when you go there, it's just so different. Totally. They're like, get on the ride. We don't care. So you are loyal. You bleed, Disney. Well, I do go to Universal. I just, I was just, maybe because I was just there. Yeah. And the difference between our day at Universal and our day at Disney was just like night and day. Of course. Also, I was looking for food and they were like, you can have fish and chips. And I was like, please don't do this to me. Like, I just want like a hot dog. My moratorium on Universal is, is that the right word? Moratorium? It's true. Yeah. Is that, so you know they're doing, they take down the Rip Ride Rocket. Yeah. And they're replacing it with a Fast and the Furious roller coaster. Yeah. They need to figure out what else is going on in that Universal Studios Florida park. Yes, agreed. And I think after, we said, we just went to Universal Studios in Osaka, Japan. Oh my God. I'm going to Japan in November. You are? I need you to tell me everything. We're telling you everything. If you want to go to Disney Seas, I think. You should. Okay, you should. But anyway, they have the Jaws ride in Universal Osaka, and I'm like, bring it back. Yeah. But Disney Seas is fun. I can't wait. What's in we have a great time? We had a great time. The roast beef popcorn. Oh? Feels very Chicago. Oh. Feels very dear. Yeah, they go off with the popcorn there. Like, every single popcorn stand is flavored different. Ooh. And you go to Osaka, because it's literally sister cities with Chicago, Comedy Town, Rivers, gay bars. It's very Chicago. I can't wait. I think Osaka's gonna be very important for you. Very Maggie. Osaka-con. Osaka-con. That sounds not right. I don't know why. Sure, no. It sounds a little bit like Shaka-con. Shaka-con. Shaka-con. Osaka-con. Like Osaka-con, like a convention for people that love Osaka. Like a Bravo-con but with Osaka. I'm going. I haven't been yet but I'm going. Give some thoughts on Bravo before we end. Oh my gosh. This is coming out tomorrow so this is really current. This is coming out tomorrow? Yeah, this is really current. I would have acted so different. I just binge-watched the current season of Married to Medicine, and those women are everything to me right now. They really are great. I'm a quad web fan. You're what? I'm a quad web fan. My favorite is the introduction where it's like, and this is the doctors, then I'll just be like, and quad. They're not the doctors. It's so good. And then, I mean, I've watched, I think every show, you know which show I've never watched? Miami. Oh, we love Miami. So I'm going to start it. Like, I think I am in for a journey. You can start from season one or you can start from the rebooted season. Yeah. Okay. I would do that. You think I should? Okay. I think that's a totally acceptable, that's how I did it. And then I have not finished my, since the beginning watch, but it's, you're not really missing out on too much. Can I name drop out who I'm having dinner with tonight? Yes. Wes Wilson. Stop. Wow. I love him. Well, because- How do you know him? Connor. Oh. Went to with Connor Wood and he is kind of the one was like, oh, my friend Wes. And I'm like, yeah, I know who Wes Wilson is. Like, stop. So Wes, I became friends with him and I was like, kind of like, we're going to go to dinner with me and you and Connor. I think he's the best dressed person on Bravo. Yeah, he's a little. He constantly, every single time I see him on my screen in his confessionals, I smile and light up. I'm like, I love Wes. I love Wes. I love Summer House. Love Summer House. I one time, I think for like an interview set, I would like to be, and I mean, this was Love, the first fat person on Summer House. and I don't think it'll happen, but I'm going to try my best one day. You're getting it. First of all, they're all really nice and cool. So nice, yeah. It feels like... This isn't at the producers. Yeah, they're amazing. But I do watch that show, and I don't ever really feel the parasocial thing. No. But I watch that show, and I do. Yeah. Oh, because you want to be where the people are. I'm like, oh, well, that person just needs... If I was... I often think if I was there, I could help. Yes. we do need a gay guy in the mix we used to have one we used to have one Stephen? oh there was a gay guy in the mix I just feel like that might be a little boring for the gay guy well that's why he would he'd be like I gotta stir some shit up here right we need two like cats two gay guys exactly like cats oh my god is this is this what is this how you how you have cats you bring cats into an environment I think no I just meant like I think you just get two so they have each other I see I don't know I love cats I'm allergic but I'm like it's like the rare thing where I would love to have a cat. I love that. I'm allergic. Because it's never really going to happen with a cat and a dog. You know what I'm saying? It's like, you can pretend they're best friends. They're not. Your cat does not like your dog. Your dog is so scared of your cat. Have you seen the videos with the cat on the dog? Drop the video. Drop the video in the comments. Drop the video in the comments if you've seen that. Matt is speaking from experience because his sister has what on paper or in photos seems like a perfect dog-cat partnership. But then I go to visit them and it's like, oh, first of all, this cat is just like a cat. It's like going to do its own thing, Diego. You're going to do your own thing, King. And then Callie is just like very like the dog. My sister's always like, yeah, she's terrified of Diego. Like it's just like, and it's not what you think because the dog is more afraid of your cat. Your cat is not afraid of anything. Sometimes siblings don't like each other. Yeah. Not mine. Love you boys. Love you boys. Yeah, I wouldn't know about that either. Yeah. Anyways. You have a sister. I do. My sister Chelsea or I am. Do you have siblings? I have a sister. Yeah. Oh my God. I wish I had a sister. Oh, that's nice. It's not too late. I think it's too late. You think? Call my parents up. Hey, what about you guys getting busy tonight? 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