Episode 495 | Ran to Toronto

This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed human. Mom, warrior's mom! Yeah! Yeah! No, no, no! No, warrior's mom! No, no, no! No, no, no! No, no, no! No, no, no! No, no, no! No, no, no! No, no, no! No, warrior's mom! Welcome back, Top of the Week, a beautiful, beautiful day in New York City. It is very hot. The weather is officially turned. I mean, we may go back to 30 degrees by the end of the week, who knows. But we are back. It is a lovely, lovely Monday. We have our brother-in-arms, Maul, back from the North International Mall. We missed you so much. We missed you so much. You've never taken an episode off, so, yeah, we missed you. Or one, I think, when you were sick. A well-deserved brick. I'm like the Cal Ripken of podcasting. You are definitely the Cal Ripken of podcasting. You know that about me, warrior. I'm the Cal Ripken of this shit right here. Cal Ripken the third? Yeah, I'm Maul Ripken. You're definitely Maul Ripken. I'm the Iron Man of this podcasting shit, man. Yeah. Well, we are happy to have you back. Your presence was definitely missed, but it was definitely for for good measure that you were going at the end of the week. How was your trip to the native land of Toronto? Well, first of all, I do want to start by saying shout out to D.Dot. I was mad I couldn't... Yeah, it was a great episode. I wasn't here to kick it with D.Dot. That's one of the OGs and one of the people that I really like enjoy seeing and talking to. So mad I missed him, but shout out to D.Dot. Shout out to Trey Lee. Coming through as well. And we are sponsored by Boost Mobile Unlimited Talk, Text and Data. Nah, you sponsored by Rogers today. Well, no, I'm back. I'm back in America now. You got your Boost service back? Yeah, I'm back in America. They gave me my Boost Mobile back, man. So you touched down what, this morning? Yesterday? Yeah, yesterday. So full weekend in Toronto. What did you do while you were up there? Was it just coincidence? Coincidence. That you were up in Toronto. What do you mean? What was it? He's doing the thing. He's doing the thing, Mark. I'm just asking about his trip. Oh, he's making a joke. Not bad, Rory. Thanks, man. No, well Iceman came out last Thursday. So I went up to support my guy. You see the crew, man. I haven't seen my guys in a minute, so it was good to see my guys. Shout out to my guy, Nico. I ain't seen my boy, Nico, in a minute, man. So it was good to see him. Shout out to the OVO family, man. It was a great time, great weekend. Okay. Major weekend for them. So just went up to support, man. So Thursday night, it looked like there was a fireworks show. It looked like you guys were, like, in some type of hotel overlooking the water. Like, what was the Thursday night event? Oh, it was at our spot. Hotel X. It was at the rooftop. Oh, great. Oh, yeah. I love that place. Yeah, so it was at the rooftop of Hotel X. And yeah, just watch, just to watch the stream and, you know, have some drinks and laughs and kick it, talk shit, man. It was a good time, man. I was it. Okay. No, I just... What are you digging for? Like, what are you talking about? I'm just asking what happened. That's all. No, that was it. Little bit. Watch the stream like everybody else. Okay. That's all. What about the rest of the weekend? It was also a nice weekend in Toronto, whether it was. Yeah, I just, I showed though. I saw some of my family, some of my friends up there and shit. That was it though. It wasn't nothing like two, you know, I wasn't like outside in the clubs running around. I wasn't doing none of that shit. No, it wasn't that. Gotcha. Okay. Well, yeah. Me and Demaris did a stream. That was Friday, right? Was it? It was Friday, my day off. We had to do a little Iceman stream. Yeah, we did. How was it? I called in for some of it. Yeah, he called in for a little bit. It was fun. It was a good time. And, you know, I didn't want to do Thursday night because I wanted to actually listen to the album at least once before we start reviewing stuff, but it was cool. Then we went out afterwards, you know, gave it a card test that I think Demaris seemed to pass. Yeah. Oh, no, no, they played it. We went to the one who belongs we knew we'll be playing it. Yeah. I just, I want to let y'all know that my ass is going to fall off from true bestie. My ass is going to fall off. Just want to let y'all know. I'm going to throw so much ass that my ass is going to detach from the rest of the stream. I'm going to throw my ass to the start. I'll let you know. It was so interesting because I saw the clip, but I had it on mute. Yeah. I thought y'all was playing what we survived the let out. Meris was standing out. See, we not doing this. I just said I miss you. It was on mute. The video was on mute. I just said I miss you. And I couldn't tell. I was like, maybe they listen to maybe like they're riding around the city going crazy with cold. Don't piss me off. And then I'm just saying I just saw the clip. I saw the clip and I was like, oh, shit. I said, what they doing? I'm like, okay. So the Meris hanging out the sunroof. She on her cold. She letting the streets know cold is outside. And then I like tapped the unmute button. That's what you think she was doing? That's what I thought. I thought y'all was riding around on y'all cold. Cold was in the Honda. I was in the whip. I was like, okay, baby D out the sunroof on a Friday night. I was like, okay, it's lit. I just said I missed this nigga. He on his way to piss me off already. Number one, I've done it to cold. Do it to cold plenty of times. That's number one. Number two, let's enjoy this moment. She hit it on the bike on the city bike. She was standing on the seat on the city bike. Imagine you in a car. You see the marriage go by you on the seat on the seat by standing up like this. Like biker boys. So what if I was riding? She was on the handlebars. That's why we're talking about the basket. We leave the studio. Let's do it. Let's see if we can do it when we leave the studio today. That would be hilarious. Oh man, I was dying looking at that shit though. I said, look at the marriage. We had baddies with us. Baddies, hookah, liquor. Yeah, you can't see the baddies. They sitting behind the seats, but baddies, hookah, liquor, new drink out when we throwing ass. We had a ball. We just got outside. Outside, maybe back together. No, wait, why I had one of the moments. You know niggas started drinking. They get emotional. So it's me, Rory, my two friends and zip at the table hookah lounge. So I look at zip, right? Mind you, Drake going off, hookah flowing, bitches, bad bitches blowing smoke. We got liquor. I look at zip, zip just looking around. I say, oh, zip, y'all, I'm emotional. Y'all, I'm so happy you get to experience this shit. My nigga did 18 years. Yo, he home. This bitch is around. Drake playing hookah like he looked at it. He said, yeah, man. Word. Feel good being home. He been home for six years. Like the marriage. I picked him up from the gate just now. He been home six years. The fuck you talking about? He did look like he was reflecting. He was. He was like, I don't even want to drink no more. I'm just like, vibe in. That's my boys. Shoot everybody in this mother. Now, wait, Rory got up to go to the bathroom. More. Oh my God. This is why you can't take it. Rory got up to go to the bathroom. So zip stand and then like, you know, people were coming in and out the hookah lounge. We sitting at the front door. You know how serious zip stand up when Rory goes to the bathroom and he's standing in front of the door, like in front of our table like this. No lie. Zip stand is just like this. Do you have a phone book strap to stomach? I said, zip. Sit down. Like we good. I promise you like we good. He like, you know, I don't know these niggas. I was like, all right, man. It's a hookah lounge. Like you ain't supposed to know these. I'm public. We're in a public place. Like, yeah, I hope you don't know these niggas. Yeah. The only thing he didn't do was make his own wine. Oh my God. Shot the zip man. Do you anything else over the weekend? No, after that night, we left you went back to my house, changed shoes. We just spot hopped. I ended up in Riviera strip club. With two light skin niggas. I don't know them niggas. Two light skin niggas with their riviers. Were they spending at least? You thought I was there. Anyway, I just went home. We're at home 535 that morning. 535. What a time. Jesus. You were outside outside. I was outside outside. I went to Blackhead a listening event. Six of that for those that call him that. At Bowie last night. I thought it was like a playback. He was just going to play the album for everybody. He performed the entire album. Fire. I'd never seen an artist do that before. It was really a show. He left the feature verses just play. He put on a whole performance. The way we heard the album for the first time was a live performance. Which I thought was the coolest shit ever. That's dope. The album sounds incredible too. I'm not just saying that. I don't want to make Blackfans think it's a rap album. Black is rapping. More than he's ever rapped before. He's rapping on this shit. I'm excited for Friday. He said he'd come on the pod as well. Is that like industry talk? No, he brought love. He said he already talked to his people. He invited me to the event. I shut out the Black. He's a good guy. The album sounds incredible out this Friday. And that's LVR right? That's family. Shut out Black. Shut out Justice. I hope he'll be on the show soon. You guys are definitely going to fuck with the project. I like Black. He always puts out good music. He takes his time. He's not somebody that's always in the space. He always takes a break. Lives life. And then comes back and updates us through the music. I fuck with Black. I'm looking forward to that. Now that we got the weekend out of the way. I'm looking forward to seeing if Mal did in fact get an OVO chain. The answer is revealed there. We don't need to get into that. It may be under the shirt right now. We don't know. But let's get to the actual project. Let's start with Iceman. I think this is the best produced Drake album since Vue's. Music wise, production wise, I think Iceman is the best. I didn't make the project. I was gonna say, why are we clapping? I didn't make the project. But no, to me, this is the best music that I've heard since Vue's. People are gonna have their opinions on the lyrical content, what he's talking about, this and that, but the pure music of it, to me, is right there. It's really, really good. I really fuck with Iceman. I think he checked all the boxes, too. I think we got some of the version of mature Drake that we were looking for. Not the 444 Drake, but the, hey, I'm battling being 40 Drake. I think that's in there. I think we got the outside songs. I think he checked the boxes we were looking for. And I really don't think he was complaining the way some people are making it out to see him. He's just explaining what the fuck happened. People saying he was complaining? Yeah, and whining. Well, they always said I drank wine. He's not gonna whine now. Whining, that's funny. But make them cry. What? It's up there. We're tusking leather. I don't think that's a crazy guy. That's one of the songs that I heard. He was like, I'm gonna ask you if this was one of the songs. If it is, or if it's bad, I want to know if that's one of the songs you heard. Oh, yeah. What was your take again? That you had told me? Some of the best rapping he's ever done. Oh, yeah. It's definitely up there, for sure. And I think this kind of solidified Drake rap artist. Oh, yeah. I think that kind of goes without saying no. Easily. Definitely. Yeah, that was a stamp for me. But Damaris, we got to listen to this in real time. Well, I listened to it a few times. No, I had heard it for the first time on the stream. Yeah. I was kind of surprised at your reaction. To what? To how much you loved it? Why would you be surprised at how much I loved it? I just... Is there ever been a Drake album that came out that I didn't love? Yeah. For all the dogs. We can put a clip up. No, you can put a clip up. Me and Maul loved For All the Dogs. You were in for All the Dogs. Me and Maul loved it. Yeah. I don't like For All the Dogs. But with that said, yeah, I was shocked that you had the same line with me when fucking 7 for 7 for the first ones. But what are some of your favorites on here? So, to be fair, I don't even feel comfortable rating this album or really even picking out favorite shit because it's a lot of fucking music. And I haven't given... I've heard Made of Honor the most. So, out of the three albums, I have played Made of Honor the most. But that's just because I was outside this weekend. I was cleaning my house this weekend. Iceman is me putting in my headphones and like commuting or driving or that kind of thing. So, I haven't had the chance to really fully listen to it. But so far, all of my favorites are on Made of Honor outside of the first two songs. I'm terrible with names like Maul. Make them remember. Make them cry and dust. I love... And there's also the Mac Jaysong on there that I really, really, really, really love. Yes, that one. And then the Asshakin' Songs from Made of Honor. My favorite ones would be Whole Face, True Bestie. I don't even remember the exact names of them. I love Classic, Off Hubbidi. It's a lot of fucking music. So, I'm still... Throughout time, I will be coming back to y'all like, ah, this one might be my favorite now. But yeah, I told y'all my ass gonna fall off. Yeah, same page. I mean, I listen to Iceman the most because again, the other two I need to hear outside or like around some women. But Out the Gate, yes, Classic is my favorite of that one for sure. And Made of Honor, I need to hear that like outside for real. I can't sit in my crib and just listens to that and fairly judge anything. But we were throwing ass to it on the stream and say, here. Yeah. Well, we were outside. But I'm saying like, fully, I need to be at burgers and bottles to hear that type of shit. Yeah. But I would say, obviously, make them cry. Janice, shut the fuck up. Ran to Atlanta. National Treasure. Too hard for the radio. I think all those are gonna play outside. I think Lil' Bertie will even play outside. I think he has the good mix of those type of records and then the Make Them series, which is for people like me. Make Them Cry. What is it? Make Them Cry. Make Them Remember. Make Them Know. Firm Friends is one of my favorite conductor beats in a while. Like that. I love the Firm Friends beat. Yeah. I think he's... I think he's... Firm Friends, though Drake. That's a crazy name for a song. Firm Friends? Yeah, it's a love. You got a nasty brain. I do. That's weird. That's weird. Mom, I know you've had some of this album for quite some time. So you've lived with it more than we have. What are your favorites on Ice Man? Probably Janice today. In Shebang. Obviously Make Them Pay. Make Them Cry. I think that's some of the best rapping Drake has ever done. Drake has one of the craziest bars I think in rap. One of the slickest bars in rap history on Make Them Pay for sure. Which bar would it be? The Aiden Ross. Sorry, brother. Where's all that on stream? No, seriously, that's one of the slickest bars in rap history. You know, first of all, Drake didn't write that. The universe wrote that. You know what had to happen for that bar to like... Just think about that. You know what had to happen for that bar to happen? What had to happen? Okay, so two people had to meet up and make love and have a kid named Aiden Ross. You think he was made up of one? And then that kid Aiden Ross had to grow up. That kid Aiden Ross had to grow up and become a streamer. Right? And then he had to get a steak deal and meet Drake. That's a lot of things that had to happen for that bar to happen. Which is why that bar is one of the slickest bars in rap. Listen, when Drake played that... Imagine hearing that song and then you can't tell nobody about that song. Yeah. No, it's great. Like when I heard that song and I heard that bar, I was just like, alright, man. Like, how am I supposed to like just keep this like under wrap? Like I just heard some of the greatest raps from one of the greatest artists in the history of music and I can't tell nobody about this shit. But also you forgot the other side of that. You told the Aiden Ross life story. I think some other medical help needs to happen as well to bring that bar together. Someone needs aid. Well, yes. I mean, that's what I'm saying. The universe had to had the universe the universe. It wasn't Drake. Drake didn't write that bar. It was the universe. But yeah, to me, I'm... Again, I'm still living with the album. Again, a lot of music. I think these albums, all three of them are going to sound better as time goes on. As time passes, I think the music is going to sound better, especially Made of Honor and Habib T. I think those two albums are going to sound better. The Iceman album, I think people already get it. Yeah, straight to the point. I think people feel that music already. Made of Honor and Habib T. By the time people look up and they're kind of like, oh, shit, like you're outside moving around and you start seeing them at the after party. Chowd Noelle and Mark. Noelle was playing a whole phase. And at first, because it's like you got to shout out to Gordo too. Gordo is very talented. Because at first you got to kind of like catch the beat and it's like the way it starts and then the way it goes into it is something totally different. But you can see the women like because Noelle played it, he brought it back a couple times. So you can see the women catching it like and they kind of giving each other that look like, oh, this is going to go crazy. And that's where I think a lot of people are going to do with those albums. Once you start moving around and outside and get to live with the music a little bit I think those songs are going to start to land and hit you. Once again, you just kind of get the Iceman. I think everybody unanimously. Again, there's people that hate it. But that's part of it. You know what I mean? That's even that. Even people that hate it. You know what I'm going to start doing? I think we got to start because again, all of this is preference and taste. When people are like, I don't like this, I don't like that. And sometimes we don't understand it because some of us are just unanimously sometimes like, this is incredible. I want to start asking people when it's like undeniable great dope shit in front of them. And they're like, nah, I don't like that. We got to dig deep and ask other questions. Like, yo, what's your favorite restaurant? Okay. What's your house smell like? What's your favorite cologne? What's your favorite scent? You got to get more into the person and then you'll start to understand why this doesn't whatever it is, whether it's Iceman or whatever, you know what I mean? Like why this doesn't land with them? Like why don't you like this? How can you not appreciate this music and this level of artistry? How does this not resonate with you? I can understand how things cannot resonate with people, but what people have to learn to say is that things aren't like this isn't bad just because you don't resonate with it. Just say it's not for you and that's okay. Sometimes shit just ain't for you. Yeah, like I do that all the time with Cardi. Play with Cardi. I don't understand it. It doesn't resonate with me. I get that he's a star. I get that he has an insane following. It's just that it doesn't resonate with me. I'm not saying this bad. It's terrible. Just for me, it just doesn't that that's not where I am. Now with this Drake album though, if you're a Drake fan, if you've ever been a fan of Drake, I don't know how this is not already one of your favorite Drake albums ever. I don't understand. Like this from top to bottom, like where we said the production. Which one though is three hours? So I don't, I was gonna say I don't want to talk about all the albums I did. No, no, no. I'm talking about Iceman. Iceman. Okay. Iceman to me is easily like made of honor and Habib T is just Drake showing off, showing his range of the type of music and the sound and the energy that he can create. That's just him. He didn't have to throw the pass behind his back, but he did. You know what I'm saying? It's like you could have just handed it off, but that's him just styling and showing you, oh I can do all of that. Let me see what y'all gonna say now. I'm checking all the boxes, like you said, Rory. I'm giving you some of this. I'm giving you some of that. I'm being vulnerable. The production is better than it's ever been. You know, like I can still dominate the charts whenever I drop clearly the last two years. You see what the culture sounded like without me. Like, okay, let me fill this space for you again and let me give you all of this music so that no matter where you go, you're gonna hear me somewhere. Whether there's something off Habib T, whether it's something off Iceman, whether it's something off Made of Honor, wherever you move forward now with your traveling, vacation, and party, and whatever you're doing, you are going to hear Drake. And that's what he's showed with this release. Like, I'm gonna do everything with this release. I think that everything will roll out to change after this. If you're one of those artists, the top artists, you now have to completely change the way you roll out and present music. You have to. And what change and what way? Be specific about that. You have to be more creative in your rollout. You have to do things that kind of like, you know, create a new way. Like, you have to. Otherwise, it's not gonna be as entertaining. It's not gonna be as fulfilling. It's gonna just feel like, oh, your album, okay, you recorded the album, you released it. Okay, but entertain us even through the release. Give us something that we never got from you. And show us a different thing. Like, this is again, everybody can't afford to do what Drake did, obviously. But the big dogs, the top artists, I think the days of just creating the album and saying, hey, my release date is this, and just releasing it at midnight, I just think that that's, it's gonna feel a little bland now at this point. I do hear you, but I think the artists at his level still need to reflect who they are. Like, Cole, for example, and it's not the tip for Tadder or anything to do with the battle. Cole, to me, his rollout for falloff was incredible because it was true to him in his story. If he did some over the top shit, and I'm not saying that a bad way because I thought Drake's rollout was incredible. If he did some super over the top thing, it wouldn't feel like Cole. Like, it'd feel like he's trying to art. Like, this isn't even you. You don't even do this type of shit. I think rollouts still need to be authentic to who you are. And Drake is a moment guy where it needs to be a spectacle. It needs to feel like the biggest thing. Well, with him, it was something totally different because of everything that had happened. Obviously, everything, like things were different this time around. But I'm saying if you're one of the top artists in the world, I think the days of just announcing a release date and then your album being available for streaming that midnight, I just think that that's it kind of is just like where's the effort in it now? It has to be, it has to be something different now. I think that's what Drake, he made this moment like there has to be, we have to change things. Things have to change. It's the same runner-in-the-mill over and over and over which is why music started to feel boring. Which is why the energy was lacking. Which is why you need moments. You need things to kind of remember that time of when, okay, we got this. You need something, like again, like where we said, be true to who you are as an artist. Don't do nothing that's outside of your wheelhouse. But there has to be something. It has to be the entertainment level has to rise a little bit more. I mean, I hear you, but I feel like- Which is why we get albums and they come and go. But no, but we get albums and they come and go because they're not always the greatest albums. I feel like I hear you, but like we always say the music will speak for itself. I feel like with these three albums, the music does speak for itself. I appreciate the spectacle. I'm a spectacle ass bitch. But I don't think that it's necessary. I think him and other artists that follow after him, if the music can stand on its own, the music can stand on its own. Well, first and foremost, the music has to be clear. You can't have an amazing rollout and the music be trashed. But an amazing rollout will help a lot of trash music stay relevant for a little longer. We sat here and praised, we sat here and praised the clips for their rollout. And like Roy and I said, they just did the traditional rollout. But it was like, it was so everybody was like, oh my god, it was so many. It was like, bro, you know, this is how things used to be. Like it used to be this. You get what I'm saying? So now obviously with the Iceman release, it was different because one Drake is different and the circumstances are different and the moment is different and things like that, the energy is different. So it doesn't have to be on that level. I'm just saying that there has to be more attention to detail. Because again, we sat back for the last year and a half, two years, no Drake. Everybody's saying music is boring. These artists saying it. Music is boring. We missing this energy. We need this. We need this. Like, you know, I'm drinking future being back together. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like it's like those things. It's part of like what the gap was. Like, and why is there a gap when only one artist decides to fall back in the middle of the city? And why is there a gap when only one artist decides to fall back in, lock in and go in his back cave and create an amazing piece of art? Like why is it? Why does music suffer so much when just one person decides that he's going to fall back and create something and give everybody else time to do their thing? Why does music feel like it's missing so much just because one person decided to fall back for two years? I mean, I think it's probably because his peers don't make the outside type music that Drake does. So that's where the gap was. I think plenty of rat fans felt like music wasn't missing when they had G&X and fall off. There was just a specific part which is a huge part of hip hop, which is outside. What am I listening to outside? And Drake at a way higher clip makes that type of music amongst his peers better than anyone else at the volume that he does it. So yeah, there was definitely a part missing, but I wouldn't say music completely felt like it was off. The clips out again, we praised. There was still stuff, but you did see the gap as far as those moments where we need to hear this song around people. That kind of was missing. Music was boring. It was getting there, yeah. It was very boring. Rap in particular. I think last year was a great praise. The Don Toliver album, the way that y'all did and say that everybody hears it. Thank God Don Toliver released. Imagine if he didn't release out, but you have Don Toliver. You have gonna granted Drake makes music. I feel like stuff is missing because Drake makes music for the women. So I hear you on that. But y'all praise Don Toliver. Y'all praise Gunna. There were a couple of albums at the clips. Like there were a couple rap albums in the past year. Yeah, like as far as outside music, well, not the clips. The clips is now. I mean, a lot of a lot of the projects I loved last year. And I even said, I thought 2025 was an incredible year for rap. And I think I think boring is maybe the wrong word because like, I loved the clips Chance Wale, Larry June, two chains, mob deep, Freddie Gibbs, Mac Miller, J. I. D. The grant. Like there was plenty of great projects. Everything mass appeal did. But as far as like what. Damaris and I did on Friday night. Yeah, it was there was no music play. There was no music. Shake it. The energy. The energy. A specific part of life that got very boring. Listen, we both just we all sat back the last two years and we lived it and we were together most of the last two years amongst each other. And it is what it is. You only heard music that was a couple years old when you were outside. That is that is that is very much. It's just, you know, it is what it is. Like, you know, we just got to face the face the facts and speak to the facts. And the fact of the matter is an artist like Drake is absolutely the one artist that dominates the space. Yeah. And I hear you on the rollout thing. I would just I'd be scared for artists to do a rollout like that in the music. No, no, no. Why like a man like a man, a man, you keep saying a rollout like that. I don't want nobody to try to do that. I'm just saying there has to be something else other than my album at midnight. Here's the link. It has to be something else. It has to be. Yeah, but you have to rely on the music being good if you're going. Oh, the music almost always has like a magic drink. Did all of that. And it's ice man wasn't dope. Rough. You know what I'm saying? But the fact that he rolled it out the way he did and then did what he did with the three albums. Now I got a question you bum ass nigga. You know it was three albums this whole time. Of course I did. That's wow. You see, I mean, you can't trust him. You can't. Obviously you can. Actually kind of the opposite. Trust you, nigga. Obviously when I'm what you mean was that the idea the whole time like from inception of I don't I'm not going to speak to that. I don't know that. I just I just know that for a while. Like I said, he recorded a lot. You know what I mean? Like he was gone obviously for that. I didn't mean he wasn't creating and working. But you know he was he was gone for a while and he was just recording recording recording and I guess at some point he looked up. 40 looked up and probably future looked up and was like dog like we have 50 records. Like we can do we can we can do like something incredible with all of this music. Like we just got to figure out how we do it. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, why not? He's given us those sounds before. And again, I just think that is it just speaks to, you know, his creative team. It speaks to Drake's work work ethic. It speaks to his artistry and his craft, his attention to detail. I think and he was sitting on that one line of things that what he said. Isolate me was the worst decision to some shit that he said, like I like the fact that he said that because it's real. It's like, here's the thing where I should give out so much music to other people. Imagine now I become selfish and I keep all of this shit from myself. There's only three features on Iceman. Iceman. Iceman here. Yeah. You get what I'm saying? There's only three feet of future. Mollie Santana and 21. Yeah. Quavo Quavo got the ad libs on Shebang. But like this is not a huge feature heavy like so now imagine the guy that was once given a piece of art that is going to shake the entire industry up. I'm definitely one of those fans that are selfish that like if my favorite artist makes heartbreak music sometimes when I see them in a happy relationship I'm like, damn, whatever. As much as a human being, I would say a lot of things that happen to Drake were kind of fucked up as a person. As a fan, I'm sort of glad it all happened because he sounded inspired. That was my issue with For All the Dogs. Didn't really sound like he was just an autopilot making an album to make it, but it's Drake so it's going to be at a high level. But comparing him to him, I felt like it was an uninspired Drake album. This felt inspired. Like he needed to get pissed off again. They're calling it whining. I think he needed to get pissed off and need to prove something again. Because when For All the Dogs came out, what the fuck did Drake need to prove? He's legend. The numbers, everything. That he could do it again. That he could keep doing it. That he could be consistent. I literally said that during the stream where he tried to troll me. Like, oh, so you saying like, no, like I'm happy that Nick has pissed him off because he was uninspired. I like inspired Drake. Well, that's what I said. I don't know where he was at, but I said it was a necessary evil. I think I said that here. Everything happens for a reason. Everything happens for a reason. And I think that Drake took his time to identify what that reason was. Because by nature, right? By nature, Drake is a nice guy. And I think in this fuck ass industry, you know, the thing about Drake being a nice guy is he also happens to be probably the most talented artist of his generation. So when you're a nice guy by nature and you're the most talented guy in the room, the room being the industry, you know, sometimes, you know, you think that, you know, people appreciate you and respect you. And then one day you look up and realize that they're not, it was just usually. But then once that light bulb goes off and, you know, now you no longer are this nice guy anymore and decide that you're going to isolate yourself and, you know, keep everything in house, possibly go independent. It's going to be tough for a lot of people from this point on. No, warrior now. Maul, I have not told you this before, but Boost Mobile is proving that you don't have to overpay for great wireless. 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The first half of scorpion, I wouldn't say has similar content to Iceman, but it is the hey, I'm replying to everyone that I saw say crazy shit about me and then try to give us the R&B side as well. And I like scorpion. It's not like super, super high in my Drake. This is Drake. Disography, but I do like it to me. This was the better executed, more well thought out scorpion with doing the different sounds separating them, replying to people while making records that will be outside. It's scorpion on steroids to me. It's a more, more well executed one. I feel like and you just get the third one. You get the honestly nevermind part two out of it as well. This, the way people say CLB was like the quintessential. This is every Drake sound. I think these three represent that more than anything in this cattle. You get every single bit of Drake out of these in my opinion. I'm not going to say it yet, but this might be my favorite drink. Which one? Iceman. Okay. I'm like that three came out. I just need us to start. I'm talking about rap. The other two is just like him just showing like I can make all kinds of shit. Like there's nothing I could be a favorite Drake. It'll be your favorite Drake rap album or your favorite Drake album? Because I've seen how many hours you listen to some sexy songs for you on your rap. But that's just because that's an R&B. That's like R&B. I'm talking about when I'm talking about rap. Rap. Like I said, this is some of the best rapping Drake has ever done. Easily. Yeah. Make them cry, make them pay. Those are some of the best bars he's ever written, ever recorded. Easily. Like I don't, I don't even think it's close. I think that he was on another level with his, with his lyricism this album. And I also think that release in three albums takes him away from the constraint of like we've said before Drake tries to play, he has a wide plethora of fans and he tries to please his entire array of fans, usually within a 20 track album. So when you release yourself in the shackles of that and you put three folders and it's like, no, I can rap as much as I want to without having to please the R&B because the R&B crowd because I have an album for them or trying to please the doing Coke and a B's a crowd because I have an album for them. Like I feel like it kind of takes a weight off your shoulder. Like I can say whatever the fuck I want to say because I have something for them. This, this is for the rap fans. So I think that that helps too. Do we think outside tweaking was a little petty dig at Ice Bice? I never knew what the ice bison Drake beef was or the beef. There was, there was some something that was kind of unclear. But I mean, we're at Stunna Sandy, people have, you know, obviously accused her of sounding exactly like Ice Bice and kind of doing like a carbon copy of it. It was the first thing that popped in my mind. Not to say that Stunna Sandy doesn't, you know, have her own fans and make her own music for the people that like that. I'm not taking away her talent, but I think it, I think it was a little ice bice dig. That's all. I don't think he thinks that much into it. I think Drake has always, I see where you're coming from, but I think Drake has always ran to what was the newest. Like Drake doesn't want the people who are already put on. He prefers to get people before they become popular or cool. That's been him his whole career. And I think that just might be, might be part of it. You didn't listen to Habib to you. I haven't. That's the one I've listened to the least. All right. Cause that on that joint fan made honors ones. I've listened to the least. I mean, WNBA slapped the city, a classic gen five, Fort Worth. He was growing on me. I didn't know where Drake was taking us when he said he was lonely in America, but he landed the song. Like when he first came on, I was a little like, okay. Yeah. Niggas can't fuck with you. He can have tell you he's lonely in America. Like for this, for this to all be the same artists making all of this music. This is fucking insane, bro. This is like, even if, even if you put an artist in a room with a bunch of producers and they're like, okay, this is the, this is the song we're going to record. Like to be able to execute it is like, bro, this is, we've never seen this before from one artist. This, these like three different sounds like this and they're all at a high level. It's not like, oh, he kind of struggled on this one. Yeah. He didn't really like, no, he really, you really would believe that this is the type of music he makes all the time. It doesn't sound like an experiment. Like he really sounds like he lives in those worlds. I'm queen of like, when I saw the sexy red features or heard about the sexy red features, I was like, please God, I don't know what it is with his, his sexy red. It's his emotional attachment dog. Like I don't not calling her dog, but you know what I mean. But when I heard her on the song, when I heard him on, when I heard her on the songs, I said, I can't think of anybody else on the way that this is like, this makes sense. Like she makes sense where she is placed. Here, what was I going to say? Made of Honor or Honestly Never Mind? Well, because I know you like Honestly Never Mind. I love Honestly Never Mind. That album is incredible. I got to, I got to listen to, I got to move around with Made of Honor a little more. Okay. Her B-B-T is more R&B. So it's like, you know, I get that right away. Made of Honor is like, but I saw it. I saw a glimpse of it. I know what it's going to do. So more, how about you go outside with me and my friends? Come outside with me and my friends and play Made of Honor. Oh man. Let's get this sprinter. It sounds like I'm going to need, I'm going to need a fucking B-C powder. I'm going to need. They're making you the Made of Honor. I've been dragged. You're going to be the bell of the ball. Yeah. Yeah. That just sounds, that just, you just scared me with that one. Going outside with a bunch of like 20 something year olds. Oh, thank you. Well, early 30 year olds, it's all the same. Trust me, it's just a number. Yeah. Damaris, she had them with them. Friday night. Yeah. Can I think about it? Because I'm tempted, you're tempted in the nigga. I ain't going to lie. I'm tempted to do it. But it's just like, woo, I know what that comes with. Oh wait, I'm going to call Major and Mitch. Me, Major and Mitch and the bad bitches. No, no, no. We've made an Honor playing in a sprinter. No, that's too much. That's too much. There's just too much shit going on. You had a time in your life. Three red bulls. You might need some coke. Yeah, it's just too much shit happening. Like I just want to. No, I'm a head Mitch. I'm a head Mitch. We're going to set that up. Take a shower and watch first 48 minutes. That's what I want to do, man. You wasn't doing, nah, I don't do that. Because you was over there screaming for the fireworks and shit when you was with Drake. Niggas scream for me, Mitch and Major. Yeah, that's my guy. I was happy for my guy. See, why would I, why would I, why would I show him happy for a friend? Like, see, it's a problem. But if I'm sitting there and I ain't saying, it's like, oh, this nigga hating. It's either, it's one way or another. Either you're, there's a middle ground and you wouldn't, it ain't no middle ground. Cause that last, you tell her the middle ground doesn't exist. No, either glazing or you hate it. You're either glazing or hating the middle ground exists. There's no middle ground. It was the reverb on the last. It was the reverb on the echo. You can physically see the echo moving. It was a lot behind that. It was a lot behind that. Yeah. I see no note on that one. Yeah. It was a lot behind that. Yeah. You got to understand what was going on, everything that happened for that moment to happen. You're enamored by the fireworks. No, I was happy for my guy, man. You understand? I was happy for him. Anytime you're a creative and you know, obviously we're, we're creatives and to think of something and then be able to put it together and execute it. And it goes the way you, that's not easy to do, especially on that scale. So to see, to see it happen and to see, you know, somebody you respect and somebody you fuck with, execute something that they've worked on for a long time and like for it to finally be done. And it was like that laugh was a lot of things that we spoke about in private. Like, you know what I'm saying? It was like, it was a victory laugh. He kept telling, he kept saying like, yo, this shit, you know, you don't even understand what's about to happen. Ryan, can you play a laugh for me, please? I said, okay, cool. Marlene, you're never giggled as hard with me. Yeah. Yeah. It was that part. It was that part. Yeah. There's a lot of wise on the yeah. I was, stop it. Like, if you were to text that, yeah, how many wise do you think of the, you know, like, I, like, you know, I thought when I first saw the video, I was playing down me. I was like, oh, more hangover drink, whatever. And then the second time I played it and I just heard the yeah. And I'm like, all right, I think it's too excited. It was when I let it play and I heard that echo and laugh. I said, all right, that's why they call it. This one ain't killing my man's like, I would be happy for your friends no more. It was the double year. I mean, I guess there's three albums you wanted to give. Yeah. But Ma, you heard Rory. Oh, you kill me with them laughs. You would tear Rory up for at least a week. You just kind of read it. Yeah, of course. Yeah. I'm not sitting on Patreon. That's why I'm chilling now. I got all my jokes on. Yeah, I'm not saying that you ain't supposed to tear me up. Yeah. Okay, good. It's all in a little bit. Yeah. Just know it was a lot behind that. Like, yeah. Yeah, congrats on doing exactly what you said you was going to do and being exactly what you said you are. Salute to that. Yeah, every time. And I wanted to kill Maul again, which we did on Patreon, but I was secretly jealous that you got to hang out with Shane Gillis. Shane, shout out to Shane Gillis, man. I was kind of hating on the low like, damn, Maul gets to hang out with Shane. Shout out to Shane Gillis, man. Cool dude, man. Shout out to Shane. Shane is like, he's P's, bro. That's what we were talking on the phone. I say the same, the same, you know, the same demeanor, same like, you know, when you, you and somebody only like catch something and it's like, he just happens to be one of the funniest guys in the world right now. So shout out to Mark. Mark was trying to introduce Shane to Noel. I think Noel was DJing, right? So, you know, Shane was going over, Shane was up to the guys and shit. So me and him was talking. So then like Mark was trying to get Noel's attention to say what's up to Shane, but Mark was in his own kind of twisted still DJ. So they shade, shade was standing there like this with his cup, right? He just looked at me. He was like, I don't think this guy's interested in meeting me. Yup. But I knew he was feeling it because I'm looking, I'm like, yo, Noel don't want to meet nobody. He drunk, he DJ, he party and it's like, this ain't the time to meet nobody and shake hands. And what time do you get your self respect back? Like after the third, like you, you know, and I'm just standing there. I'm just like, I want to turn around. I'm not that important of a person to meet. I guess it's a party, like let him, you know, have his fun. But now Shane was cool. Shout out to Shane Gillis. Shout out to Katie too. Katie was there. Katie say he going to come on the pod and talk some shit. We had some, some interesting conversations. Yeah. The fans are old, a good Rory Moll, Katie rap debate. I don't want to talk about basketball, nothing. All I like to do is argue with Katie about music. Yeah. No, we was talking about Katie has some interesting things to say to me. Like it's interesting, but I fuck with Katie. That's my nickname. But he said he's going to come kick with us. So it was just pretty much his crew, Katie, Shane. It was just the crew, man. It was just, it was just, you know, his home team, you know, again, I think this era of Drake is very isolated with just the people he loves and trusts and, you know, family. I think that's what this, this era of Drake is. Well, Toronto being, you know, the capital of beautiful women, I'll say. Toronto is some of my favorite cities in the world, man. Most beautiful women I've ever seen. A lot of culture. What was the ratio like that? And of course, you know, women like Drake and it's a party and it's Toronto. Oh, that the party was cool. It was a nice vibe and a good vibe in there, man. Shot shots. Drake gave away a bunch of Chanel bags and shit like that. You know, just Drake shit. Just ladies take a raffle ticket and if no well calls your number, you got a new Chanel. It's just a regular night with OVO. You know how that should go. That nigga giving out Chanel's like napkins. Rich people get so bored. Oh man. One girl was crazy. She got she won that Chanel. She started crying and shit. I was like, God, that's embarrassing, bro. I mean, you know, is it? Yes. That's embarrassing. Like, come on out. Going to bathroom to cry. I shouldn't have seen you cry. She was crying right there. She ain't give a fuck. I got to ask that were any men in the line to get the Chanel raffle ticket? Oh, you know, they see. No men can get no raffle ticket. Imagine if a guy went up to the table. That's not happening, bro. It was a good night though, man. Good vibes, good energy. There's a lot of love. And again, shout out to the OVO family, man. It's always good seeing them and it's always love and respect whenever I get to see those guys. So salute to the man. Congrats to them, man. You know, again, something major salute to Drake for doing everything he said he would and, you know, creating something a moment that I don't think we'll forget in music that I think will age as age gracefully as well. I think the music is only this these three albums only going to sound better as time goes on. How do we think he's going to do the tour and we will move on, but it was, you know, obviously a big moment. It's a big moment. It's the biggest moment. How do we think he does this tour? I almost feel like he needs to split it up the way he split the albums up. Like I'm not saying straight blueprint reasonable doubt different nights at Yankee Stadium, but you could do the rap night. You could do the R&B night. You could do international music. That's insane. I said years ago, Drake should do a woman only tour ladies only. That would be good. He's the one artist that could pull it off. I mean, we definitely stir up Fox News of, you know, is this equal? Is this allowed? I think there's a lot of people. He's the only artist I think that could pull it off. Chris Brown could pull it off too. Chris Brown could definitely pull it off. Well, I'm talking about rap. Oh, OK. I'm talking about rap. Yeah. I think that that should be that's like a different type of flex like women only at the shows. But then it gets confusing with that community. That's what you got to tell me how we check on Tom Nicole. That's what I'm saying. In theory, it's a great idea, but there's just so many factors in it that is just going to get somebody in trouble and maybe just leave it alone. But there could be a cool way for him to split up maybe like in the major cities like Barclays is the R&B. She that rap for the garden. Like it could be cool for something like that. I feel like live streaming like him leaving one stadium. That would be hard going to the other like for the ice man. Yeah. And then go there for her beep tees is women only that that would be cool. I think he has an opportunity to do something very creative with with with the store. No, for sure. I mean, I think that's the zone. He's and I think he's just another level of creativity, another level of entertainment. I think that's what he's at. You're actually asked for my tickets this time. You ain't asked last time. I get it was a tense time. Like you're actually going to ask this time. Send me that I'll emoji in my DM ain't going to mean nothing. Yo, they said worried when I said it. I have that's hilarious. I have never sent trick and I will let you guys go through my DMs with drink. You could scroll through the years of that's how I promise you there's not a lot of them. I promise you there's not a lot of them. That's not the arguments. But there's no. It's not a lot of you know what it is. You know the little egg with the chicken. That's what the hatch. That's what he said. That's his birth as I'll. That's what he said. No, sure. Not nature. Oh my God. No, I have not. But hatching. Oh, and everybody was killing me. I'm here for my flowers. I told y'all this nigga did not speak to J Cole. Y'all like nah, Cole said they spoke. He went on. He went on. So and so and so and said. I mean, I will. Why would I get hit? Why would I sit up here and lie to people like just I wouldn't do you lie before lie? I may have been wrong about something. I've never lied. Okay. All right. You're right. Lying is good. Me sitting up here knowing I'm lying is crazy. I've never done that. That's that's that's all right. Don't modernism weekend. You told us you was alone. You wasn't alone. We've all lied on this podcast before. Oh, about my dick game. Yeah, I'm lying about that. I'm talking about like shit that people really care about. Y'all just be nosy trying to know what I'm fucking not telling y'all. Yeah. I don't think you left that after party alone. I'll tell you that. Oh, for sure. No, no, I definitely did for sure. Okay. But then they just they just met you at the hotel. No, you left the lot. I went back to the room and I ordered some fucking room service and went to sleep. Yeah. For sure. Well, I will give you your flowers that pretty much everything that you did say on the spot that you did get killed for it turned out to be 100% right. So they're not but they don't care. They don't care about that at this point. It's still going to be. I don't want those flowers. Donate them. Send the extra dollar when you check out a CVS to starving children around the world. St. Jude's. Yeah. St. Jude's. I don't want no flowers like fuck your flowers. That's that's the mode I'm in. Dragging this ice. I mean my fuck them flowers. I don't want them flowers. Fuck that. Okay. Is there any truth that you're aware of of this private equity move now that he's out of his deal allegedly? I don't know nothing about that. Okay. Because I know that whatever he ended up getting. He's he's he's going to shake the world. I know that everything changes. There was no like reputable source that was putting this out but it's never a reputable source if it didn't come from him. Allegedly he is now completely done with his UMG obligations. I don't know that if that's true. I don't know if that's true either. But I can definitely see a bunch of private equity firms obviously wanting to invest in the future career of Drake. UMG is going to do everything in their powers to make Drake happy and not losing. That's what that means. Drake if Drake holds up five fingers and says that's what that's all he got. That's his negotiation. Five. We know what letters after the five. We don't even have to talk about that. Just hold up five fingers. And I think Universal says done. You think Universal would give him or just five billion dollars. I think they will give Drake five billion dollars. Five billion. I think they will give Drake five billion. Because if they'll give you two or three what's the difference? Two or three. No it's not. At that level no it's not. You give me three billion you can give me five billion. I don't know how. You think they don't have it? You think they're like that's a little stretch? No. Universal. How much money do you think Drake has generated for a fucking UMG over the years? Over five billion. Exactly. So what are we talking about? We're saying it's like what I'm saying is crazy. All because we've never seen one artist get that. I understand that part of it. I think you're missing what we're saying. But I think y'all are missing. We think that Universal has five billion. I don't. I need, okay hold on. What? No, no, no, wait. Okay. I hear y'all right but the difference between two and three million is completely different from is then the difference between one and two billion. Like two and three million. Like two and three billion. Like they're like. Oh two and three billion. What I'm saying is the difference. So when we hear like oh if they could give me five million they could give me seven million. For sure right. There's not that big of a difference between five and seven million. There's a very big difference between three and five billion. I just know it's not at that level. If you at that level we negotiate table and they put three on the table. They got five. It's called negotiation. I'm not saying what they have and what they'll give. They got five. They going in there like yo we gonna give them five but let's shoot the three. Your job is to negotiate up to the five. That's the, that's called negotiation. They got it. They got it. No, I'm not saying, what I'm saying is there's just, let's not say that. There's not a big difference. Seriously. I'm saying at that level. Humongous. This is a humongous difference between a hundred million and a billion. Yes. But if you're offering me three billion and I want five. We already having a billion dollar conversation. Like what's the difference? I hear you. Now trillion. Oh yeah. Now we're in a whole other ballpark. But all right. I mean AI says that UMG is worth 45 billion. So we're not saying. So now I say to you Demaris. If Drake walks in and you are in danger of losing this artist to go independent and make all of this money. And he wants five billion and you're worth 45 billion. You don't give him five billion. Oh, I'm not saying that. I'm just saying there's a. No, I just want the, the shit like the shirty numbers of I just want us to. At that level. There's no difference. It's just, it's just called dragging your nuts. There's no difference. There's no difference at that level between three billion and five billion. We already having a billion dollar conversation. There's no difference. Now, if you walking in there with a hundred million and somebody coming in with a billion. Yeah, you go. It's a difference there. But we're, we're already negotiating billions of dollars. My ego says I want five. What you gonna do? Let me walk out of here. I prefer for him to take the three with a private equity and see where that goes. I think he probably make more money with a private equity company. I mean, then you're getting into the nuances of just business. I'd love to see what an artist like Drake leaving. Yeah, but sometimes you gotta sit down at the table with, you know, people pulled a little funny move and, you know, you just got to watch them sweat a little bit. You know what I'm saying? That's just, that's called negotiation. Rory said at the table with the people that did some dirty shit and pulled a, pulled a funny style move and just watched them beg. Sometimes you got to do that. It'd be so cool to be Drake's lawyer right now. I'm gonna get, I get 5% or whatever you pick. It would be so cool to be Drake's lawyer on any day. Like just keep me on retainer. Yeah, I don't even know what if 5% or whatever the fuck that level of lawyering is. I don't even know what those deals look like. I think he gets it. I mean, we'll see. I'm very interested just as a music nerd where, where that goes. Cause it is. As far as he goes. What he chooses. Yeah. Cause either way he's going to make more money than he needs. But I, I think it, what that looks like if he's independent with just private equity backing him. I want to know what that looks like in this day and age. See, and that's the thing like, and that's what I was trying to explain to the Marist and so many words is at this point, it's just all about, you know, the number is the number. He can already afford himself a life of luxury forever. It's not even, but now it's just about the status. Yeah. Now everybody knows the deal and sees it and sees it happen. And I'm the first, you know, artist to ever receive a deal like this. It's that it's not about, yes, the money obviously is, come on. We told my billions of dollars. We know that. But what I'm saying is to your point where we, what can he do with that deal that he hasn't already done? It would be the first time an artist of that level would not be under a major. And I'm very curious what that would do to the music industry. Oh, no, you told me, I'm saying as far as if the UMG deal, if they give him that money, that's just a stat. Oh, for sure. And but I'm not, I'm not one of those people. I'm a capitalist in that regard. If a rich person has this type of market value and we're looking like, does he need any more money? Not fuck that. You should get what you're owed for what you do. I don't care if you have a billion dollars. One million dollars. If you're bringing in 10, 15% of UMGs and please don't quote me on that stat. I'm really just talking right now. If you're bringing in 10%, 15% of an entire company's like revenue stream and then you crunch those numbers. Yeah, I'd you need to be paid that. I don't care if you're a billionaire already. Exactly. You're owed that shit. That's and I don't know if that's like capitalism, but no, that's how it works. So it works. Pay us what you owe us. Pay us what you owe us. You got it. I generated it. I want some of it back. Yeah. And what I'm supposed to have a sob story for UMG that's worth 45. I think they need to pay everybody more. But you know, we'll see where that goes. That is going to be one of the biggest deals. I don't mean money wise. I just mean in general for the music business than I think Mike Versoni. Like this is like industry changing shit, depending on where this goes. Absolutely. This changes everything. But like not even and that's just on the business side. Yeah. I'm saying all around. I think what he's doing is changing everything is changing music is changing the way you know, artists create and you know, the way you roll out your music and it's all of those things, man. I think it's all I think a lot of a lot of things change. Thursday night. I think that everybody all, you know, all the artists that are, you know, the artists that we all look to and like that's the biggest artists in the world. I think every one of them were inspired in some form of fashion and all of them sat down with their creative circle and started thinking after that. And then once, you know, the deal happens or whatever after that, then it's the whole another part of the think tank like, Holy shit, that's going to set off a, you know, that's a domino effect after that. For sure. You got to think about what artists like a bad bunny or somebody when they come to the table now, what they're going to negotiate. Well, I mean, I think some of the majors are already a little nervous by all the private equity buying up the artists, the artist portion of their publishing. Right. Because private equity sees the value in owning a catalog now that things can be streamed and other different places. And there's a dollar value every time it's played somewhere. It's part of content. So that's why I'm saying if Drake is backed by private equity where he doesn't have to live within the major label rules, everything changes. That's why I'd rather him do that than get five billion from UMG and everything kind of just stays the same. You want, you want to see the shift happen. Hell yeah. I agree. I like that. Yeah, absolutely. I'm going to go worry about it now. Well, today's show was brought to you by our presenting sponsor, Hard Rock Bet Florida Sportsbook. I was going crazy over the weekend with Preakness and I turned out, I did a, I did a hi man. Made a little corn. Yeah. It was my first time betting on the ponies. Yeah. And I had fun doing it. But also we have Eastern Conference finals are here. The lights are brighter. The pressure is higher. The city is buzzing. Every possession can change a series and on Hard Rock Bet every night is a shot to score a major bucket mall. I specifically love building same game parlays. 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If you are someone you know has a gambling problem, once help call 1-800-9 with it. Gambling problem called 1-800-Gambler, Arizona, Colorado, Illinois, Michigan, New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee, and Virginia. Dr. Cheyenne Bryant went on the breakfast club and a couple other platforms that I saw the clips. I'll be truthful with you guys. I don't know who this was until all of this has been going viral. People went asking her to show her doctorate degree. Degrees. Degrees, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. My apologies. And if there was any legitimacy to them. And we don't even know that because she can't even provide them. She went on the breakfast club and gave a little bit more insight because the other clips I saw, people would interview her and be like, hey, can you just like show people a degree? What's the big deal with that? And she'd say things like, I only answer to God. I don't need to answer to humans about my degree, which I mean, if I'm going into a doctor's office, I don't care what the practice is. I feel like you owe God and us your degree. That's a pretty fair ask. But she explained on the breakfast club that the school that she went to just disappeared. They ran out of funding. And then some other company kept the records of her degree, but only for two years and it was past the limitations. So that no longer exists. So she can't pull her, her degree. And they even offered in the financial aid office to give her her money back for her degree. So all of this really seems like it's checking out. The third, she reminds you, they sent the records to a third party. She's saying that the third party offered her her money back because they didn't have her records. That makes no fucking sense to me. No disrespect to Dr. Cheyenne, Brian, but that makes no sense. Just reporting what she said on, on the breakfast club. I have no idea what the fuck y'all talking about. I'm learning. I'm hearing all the real time. I'm just telling you that financial aid, if there's one thing they're never going to do, even if they're wrong is give you your money back. Number two, if you finish a program and get a degree and they don't have the degree, they don't, they don't pay you back. Just not really how things work. I mean, I can laugh at her just tripling down on all of this and, and continuing on that she is, she has multiple degrees and she only answers to God. But I mean, she even said, you've seen my sessions live. Bro, you was talking to Shannon Sharp about like being choked during sex. I don't know what sessions we're talking about here. Here's the thing about media and I just don't even want to make this about her because we're in this, this world of being media personalities too. You can't lie about your credentials or falsely lead people to a promised land that's not there. We say all the time, we're just people who like music. We don't know everything. We don't have all the inside knowledge. We have some, but there's plenty of shit we don't know. And sometimes it's okay just to give your opinion. I'm not going to present my opinion like it's a fact. And even if I present my opinion about an album, it's not going to affect anyone's life. If I go see a doctor, I'm there for a reason. That could actually directly affect my life if you are not who you say you are. Yeah. I think that's a fair assessment. I need you to be who you say you are. Yeah. And I mean, of course that goes without saying with medical doctors, but even with therapists, like she claims to do child and family therapists and like has clients and runs a bit like that's illegal. Like you're fucking with people's lives. Well, to be fair, you don't need a doctorate to do that. True. You can do honestly, you could do that with a two year degree, maybe even a four year. You don't need a doctorate to do that. But the putting the doctor before your name, and this is all alleged because like I said, I do not know that beautiful woman. This could be true. But putting the doctor before your name, you lead with that as your tag name, as your main name, because you know that it gives people a sense of credibility when it comes towards you. Like it gives you a sense of credibility when it comes to people. So they're more likely to listen to what you're saying because you're showing yourself to be that you don't have the same energy for Dre. Who? Dr. Dre. Like, where's your energy for him? I have no energy for Dr. J. Oh, Dr. J. Like, oh, he did was play basketball. I feel like I hear you. But I mean, why are we giving this woman all this flak when I know plenty of doctors that their personalities? Maybe she's a personality playing a doctor. Okay, what is that? I don't think Dr. Dre would ever look near my face and be like, nah, I got degrees. You don't know about it. You think I would if I ever saw Dr. Umar would not refer to him as Dr. Umar, you got me fucked. I would 100% so Dr. Umar. Hello, Dr. Umar is has his doctor. I don't know. He's provided all the he has his doctor. If he didn't, they would have exposed that. No, yeah, he has his doctor. Now they say he scammed the other ways they say he collected. Maybe that's what I'm thinking. But at school, that school was never built. I don't know. That's another thing. But no, Dr. Umar has a doctorate in psychology. Oh, then yes, she looks crazy. I mean, what was my man named? The young boy that said he was a doctor. Oh, I could see. I could see his. He got the picture like this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He got the glasses. He got he got the sickest shit off in history, probably. No, he put on like it was a legit like Halloween costume. Yeah, you know, I did you type in doctors get that shit fake black doctor. Jesus, you type in peace. Peej is a white man. You type in fake. I would not be happy about that. Yeah, this guy fake team doctor. What was his name? Malachi love Robinson. Of course, his little name is love. Malachi love. Well, love Robinson is a hyphenated. So it sounds like those are his two last years. Yeah. Well, yeah, he was arrested for this, but he was really taking like payments. He was taking money. He was arrested for fraud and larceny after he was accused of using one of his clients checking accounts to pay off 34000 in car payments. Oh, yeah. Damn, they even catch him for the fake doctor. Shit, he did some fraud and then they was like, oh, you a fake doctor, too? No, no, no, that was he was arrested again. For that. Oh, OK, OK, repeated thunder. Yeah. No, he's he's the real life catch me if you can. Since he was sentenced to five years in prison with four of those being suspended. That's crazy. Well, to catch me if you can, I know the movie dramatized that real story of that is a real guy, but he's also a scammer in himself. So he may be scamming about his scam story. Oh, yeah. But I mean, in the movie, he was a doctor at one point. But all he did was like run the schedule. But not still like if I come in with a stab wound, let me see a degree. It's like, I need to know that this is a legitimate place. Yeah. Hey, man, she getting her money and let's be honest. This is going to sound nasty, but I don't give a fuck. If y'all are so easily tricked by slick words from people who speak on mics, us included, then that's on you. If you are taking life advice, not scamming anyone. I know we're not. But she's also not taking money like she's just going around. She's a media personality. So it's not like she out here like really like grifting, grifting. She's a media person. I'm sure. I'm sure she has some type of paid fucking platform or a patron. I'm sure she has something like that. But if you are taking life advice from people on the fucking internet, who you do not have their degree or are paying them anything, that's what you're taking life advice from. And you're taking it seriously. Then I'm not mad at them and you shouldn't be mad at them either. Let's just be. I'm not here to debate who people get their advice from on the internet, because we go in circles about that. But I mean, Kevin Sangles never said he was a doctor. Like that's the difference. Yeah, for sure. It's like she doesn't need that doctrine. Like I is that the allure? Because I think people are easily persuaded to your point when you can talk very well and especially if you're leaning in the mental health world. Yes, you could easily get people to subscribe to whatever you want to subscribe to without you saying you're a doctor like you could still do. You're a pretty woman woman who knows how to use her. Well, that was about self crazy. You're a pretty woman who knows how to use her words. And you do have some type of education. People will listen to you. The doctor is unnecessary. Where's our our go see university? What state is our go see? I don't know. Forty California. California. That should look like a Chipotle. It's a Seattle. There's one in. Oh, so see multiple, multiple locations. Yes, she went to this. The main one. OK, well, that one is Seattle is permanently closed. No, they're all permanently closed. Is there any other doctors, though, that like doing no like go to notable alumni? Can we scroll down to that on Wikipedia, please? Every school has notable alumni on their Wikipedia. I need to know who else went here. Malacar loves. Foul. He found she definitely went there. Oh, they had mad. They had mad campus. First of all, I'm not I'm not going to hold you even if she digger her doctor. I don't want no therapists who went to a chain school. Like they got red lobster locations like online, Phoenix, Pittsburgh, our Institute of Hollywood, our Institute. There's like 15. You know how I'm a mother. Don't do that. How you say what you know how I'm a mother. Don't do that. That's crazy. I go to their homecoming every October. Why the fuck they got so many campuses? I love the noobs over there. You know, we got a. The noobs are heavy over there. Yeah. You know, and I'm sure half those locations like, you know, how some people use PO boxes for like their LLCs and their business? Like it's not a real location. You just got a mailbox there. Yeah, that's my guess with all those locations. What the fuck? Listen, man, to take it all the way to doctor, ask them shit like that. It's crazy. And now I believe her that they only have records for two years. Shit. But don't you have your degree? A granted, I didn't graduate college, so I have no reason to even laugh at this. But you don't you get a degree? Like what you misplaced it? They mail it to your house. And it's like legit, like they can look at it and be like, this is a degree. If I went to school for that long to the point where I had a fucking doctorate, I'm going to make sure I have my degree. I'm not going to wait. Especially if you social media and, you know, you're becoming a personality. Like you got to understand that people are going to look for those things at some point. And be like, yo, wish you wish you went to school. A doctorate. OK, that's where. You got to know people going to dig. They're going to look for it. So, you know. But I saw one tweet. Is this she was on basketball wives before she was a doctor? Is that how people know her? Oh, I don't know. I'm out the loop. I have no clue. I the first time I saw her was talking to it had to be some some man. It was some some man with a mic. No, I don't know who it was. Yeah, she appeared on basketball wives, but she provides mental health, commentary and life coaching. Listen, anyone can be a life coach and cool if you can get people. To coach. Great. Yeah, we're just landing on the doctor. But that's like you can't dance this much with something you could just provide. Like that's that's kind of crazy. Yeah, but she has come on, says she's not a licensed therapist. She has come out plenty of times that I'm not licensed because I can work differently without a license that I can't with when you have a license. Cool. You're held to certain standards. Yeah, I should. I know therapists like that as well. And I've been to a bunch of different therapists and of course, go to better help. But yeah, some some people prefer that outside of the realm of filling out a bunch of stuff and just meet with somebody you feel could guide you. That's OK. Amen. Don't get the free world. Don't get your life advice from podcasters. No, don't do that. Us included. Just go get help unless they are qualified to give real fucking help. Yeah. Yeah. I mean. But that's even with the people who people will be like, I see so many people are like, yo, this is how you do forex or this is how you do social media. This is how you do and they sell you a course and there you see them driving around in a nice car and they didn't get that from getting rich off what they're telling you. They got that off you buying their course. Yeah, I love when you buy the course and they be like, yo, but the next course part two part you need part to part. Part one was part two. This is just one on one. And they'll say things like, I don't want to scam you. So I would advise you to get part two because if you do, you do part one. You might as well get part two. You have to. But that that's that whole like red pill society is just all fucking scammers that they don't they're worse and don't call themselves doctors. Their version of doctorate is is riding in a Lamborghini and doing pushups and being like change your life pussy and people buy into it. And that's how they got rich. They didn't get rich from something else. They got rich from doing that. Mm hmm. So if you really want to follow their lead, start working out and calling people pussy and then sell your course. Right. Yeah. Great advice for that. Us. More you are before the internet this this weekend. I got beef with them. I was asking you got beef with the internet this weekend. No. When do I have beef with that? I don't know. Sometimes they're not beefing with you. You might not be back. I'm not. I'm vegan, bro. I don't be back. You know that. That was a bar for my eight mile freestyle. Yeah. It's a call. It's called a call back. No, I'm happy I'm finally getting my flowers for my for my line. Fuck them flowers. Me and Roy said we're going to do another rap battle. Like how we did the push and one, but we got to do it like in Drake voice. But we got to pick which flow. Yeah. R&B flow or you want the time stamp flow? But the marriage she acts so sincerely like like how you want it. That's why it made me laugh. She wasn't even joking. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like what you want me to do? You want me to go? You want me to go on and see Nevermind or no more you want me to go Scorpio? Fuck y'all. Make them cry or classic? Like how you want to? You want me to make them pay more? Make them pay more. Like who's out there for me? Like you want to get in that pocket? Who's out there for D? Yo, dead ass. Oh my God. The marriage is crazy. No, doing a Drake one would be funny. But I want you to we have to find a specific flow. R&B, rapy R&B would be fun. I think that'd be more fun than. I would tear your ass up. You probably would tear you up at a time stamp record. So you know I'm confident in my I wanted to do another push a T1 because I'm confident in that that world. Yeah, I think you I'll do it, but you'll probably smoke me in the R&B world. That's going to be. Now, you know what? Yeah, let's stay right there. I think I said keep it right there right there. Yeah, right there right there. Right there right there. Right there right there. In the like the days in the East flow, I'm getting you. Days in the East flow, I'm smoking you. All right, that's fine. But put on a Jada instrumental. I'm a tip boy boy. No, somebody was already torn apart on that song. She put out a record on Friday, unfortunately. I'm gonna tear your ass up. Boy. Yeah, we'll pick one off Mike and figure out. We had to pick a topic too, though. Yeah, because you ducked me on the turtle. Yeah, because we did that already. So but with Drake, you don't really got to pick a topic. You could dis a nigga in your acts in the same song. Yeah, but I like I like that we picked something in the news. We'll think on it. Maybe maybe they give us suggestions in Discord or Patreon or whatever. Yo, until you're everybody, all these all these yo, she back on that side, stand that side comments and shit. I'm not gonna hold you like blow dick. Oh, they was on you. That shit is so cool. It's so I just be sitting there like, what are y'all talking about? You had to know that I was gonna have. But it doesn't make any it doesn't make any sense to. There's nothing on the internet makes sense. Why are you trying to make something on the internet makes sense? It ain't gonna make sense. Well, that's why I was confused because I showed the marriage that clip that I posted of her in the car to see if she was OK with me posting it. And she not only was OK, she said, oh, do a collab with me. Yeah, I'm like thinking why even askers because I know like those were going to be the comments. Of course. And then she was just going back and forth. I remember in the comments was like, I'm shaking ass and cussing everybody on the comments drunk. And Rory was like, I don't know why you keep responding to these. I'm like, I got time today. I'm sitting here. Who could flow in like I'm comfortable shaking ass to the culture. Vulture. Yeah. But see, don't do that because you further don't do that. Don't fucking do that. That's what I'm just saying. That's not what I said. So don't say you said you was like they speak into his culture, Vulture ways. That's all. Yes. I didn't say you told him. I'm not saying that. No, but that's that's they like I thought he was a culture for us. I didn't say that Kendrick said it. Why the fuck are y'all? No, but you was like you were saying it like no, I was saying I was yelling to you. I was yelling to you because you was like, yeah, all he said was this and it because you have a drink bias. So when I'm talking to you, it's like that's not what the that's not the only thing that he said. He didn't just say this. He said this, this, this, this and this. And that's why I was yelling. It wasn't because I'm passionate about that. I don't get to fuck about neither one of them niggas. They don't pay my bills, but I'm not going to let you sit up here and say, oh, well, he just said that one little line. No, he said this, this, this, this and this and we're not going to walk past it. But peach are greatest clipper all time. Clipped it up the way he did it. It is what it is. But niggas is not about to sit up here and try to like, oh, you back on this side. I have I've have been listening to Drake for longer than y'all have been beating y'all dicks money. Been listening to Drake never stopped. Never said I would stop. Never said I didn't like Drake's music. No, you got to stay over there. Don't you know that? It is what it is, baby. Did you once I saw a boy wonder like the post I was like, oh, yeah. You fuck about none of that shit. You got to stay over there. You're gonna fuck about boy wonder. I don't know that nigga. Shout out to him. I mean, that's what's up. Be a great producer. I don't know him. That's my guy. It's my nigga right there. That's what's up. Yeah. But you got to stay over there. So what wait, but what side I'm on because Kendrick and them fans kick me off for saying I don't like Kendrick. So I can't be biased against Drake. No, you go. You you had dreamville. You have so so Drake and Cole have beef because when that was happening when I was yelling when I was yelling at you. Wait, hold on. When I was yelling at you, I was telling you. Y'all was telling me to stay on that side. Cole and Drake was still on the same side. So what side am I? What side I got to say? I'm 2014 for sales drive. Always I literally I got a bedroom. There you go. That's what I'm saying. Stand on it. I'm the lonely one. OVO, TDE, PG, Lang and dreamville. They are all all the fans have kicked me out. No, you know what that's called? Objectivity. It's called objectivity. I'm just hoping like Don Toliver's crew will take me in. What's that's all his crew name? Ryan, look that up. Oh, no. But even some of the cactus guys don't like me. So yeah, damn, because I said one thing bad about Travis Scott out of the thousand amazing things I've said about him. You a whole venture that's all that's left. Oh, no, they kicked me out too. Oh, no, they kicked you out of your two. God damn. Damn, man. Yeah, but you gotta go join MMG. They took all your flags and they could just walk around a white T-shirt. Damn, man. That's crazy. No, I'm gonna get one of these young kids like Lucky or someone. Yeah, I'm gonna go. I'll be the old man in the club. And that's L.U.C.K. I not because you got some. No, no, not lucky. No, lucky the rapper. So I still have to listen to his album. I was just listening to Drake for the weekend. We can be looking at Drake for the next three weekends. That's mad fucking music. Yes, it definitely is. The only other thing I actually watched over the weekend was Jason Lee on Ricky Lake. Oh, you saw that viral clip? That's your first time seeing it? Yeah. And I mean, we've always said kind of things about Jason Lee, but I wouldn't say that like I pay attention to everything going on in Jason Lee's world. So no, I didn't see that. That might be better than game on that heartbreak show. That's up there. I just like watching like the old like talk shows and how they used to do things like he had Jason Lee acting like he was calling a bunch of girls off the house phone like the landline. That was the funniest part. Oh my god. Yo, I need you to get here on Sunday. Yo, that shit is hilarious, man. That was real TV. So the first thing I saw when I saw this is God damn Jason Lee was fine. That was one. He was real fine. That's a straight man. That was first thing. I don't know if y'all thought that, but that's what I thought. I didn't cross my mind. And then he called the alleged friend of his alleged girlfriend, because all of this is obviously somewhat staged, called her a bitch, and then called shorty in the audience a bitch. And we love Jason Lee. He's a friend of the show. But the first thing I thought was see when we tell y'all that niggas that be violating women are gay, y'all think we make an issue. That's the first thing I thought about. I was there's there's straight men that violate women, but no, I get it. Because you could hear some of the gain is coming out every now and then. Now that we know he's gay and you listen back to that, you catch the gay tendency. He's on and they're usually when it's disrespecting women. He's he's like, he's an internet. You don't like women. Oh, I agree there. If you liked women, there's no way you could treat women like that. A lot of guys on the internet hate Meg so much because they just hate women in general. Or they wouldn't be women. But he starts talking about her here and Jason, this is old. Like this is no disrespect to you. You said I'm talking about her here. Like you could do it better. Like if I'm saying like, you're not feeling his his mutton chops. Yeah, those was crazy. It was the times. Those was crazy. But shout out to him. He's created, you know, I'm happy he's living in his truth and become a much better person from what this seems because this was that was crazy. Well, did you see him on Breakfast Club again right after this one viral again? No. He was saying that he was trying to obviously front as a straight person and did have those girlfriends. That wasn't staged. But he said the boyfriend of one of them he met and then they started fucking they fucked the day of the show in the hotel. No, it was a crazy interview. Wait, what? So one of the other chicks had a boyfriend and they like all knew each other. OK. He was also fucking the boyfriend because they were both on the deal. He said they fucked that night. Him and the dude. OK. Thoreau bread. Man. Anybody. Mind you, anybody can get it. Anyone on this panel can get it. He said leave it with anybody. I think I said dick everywhere. Equal opportunity dick. I love that. But I mean, you know this is going to pop up because he's running some political in his hometown, I believe, right? I think he won. Or he did win. My apologies for not. Again, I don't keep up with with everything. I think. But yeah, now once once. But Jason Lee is a tough person to go against politically because there's not really anything Jason Lee hasn't talked about. Like if you say something about Jason, he's going to say, OK, so what? Like it won't be like detrimental to his reputation. He's the vice mayor in District 6 City Council member in Stockton, California. So he's a council member and a vice mayor. Oh, good. Man. Shut Jason Lee. But no, that's that's funny. That's what's where. Where do you rank it against the game? Change our. Nah, Jason Lee, if he had sex with shorties, a boyfriend that was on the panel, he he'd alleged he'd alleged the legends. And unfortunately, she had to change her heart for game that day. He lost the show. Jason Lee won the show. He won the show. He definitely won the show. He fucked everybody on the panel. But what's what's show y'all think y'all would have been like if back in the day, we were old enough like, you know what I'm saying? And we were getting into that type of shit. I was old enough to go on Ricky Lake, but I just wasn't in the suburbs claiming to be a blood. Oh, my story wasn't like if I just said I'm a blood from all the made him like 10,000 of y'all. Get along. Yeah, get in line. But if I'm living in the suburbs and it's like, oh, we got to get him on the show. Like he's terrorizing the neighborhood in the suburbs. But I was old enough because when was that 95? She's 96. Ricky Lake, maybe. Because that was I don't know what year that was that Jason Lee was on. But yeah, Jason Lee's a little older than me. So yeah, I could Jason Lee is 48 years old. First of all, bitch, you look good. Jason Lee's 48. Good 48. He looks great for 48. He looks amazing. That was 94. Oh my God. I mean, I was young. I was 13. Yeah, I wasn't born. I was born a year. I think being on Scared Straight in retrospect would be funny. Probably not at the moment. Oh, they definitely should have scared Joe Astray. But I wouldn't have been on a regular. I probably would have been on a Dr. Phil of like just an angry little Irish boy. Like we need to get through to you. But Scared Straight maybe would have helped. Rory, I would have been scared. I would have been scared. These young kids now I don't think would be scared of Scared Straight Law. They'd probably try to sneak a fucking extendo in there. I'd be fucking scared of Scared Straight Law. I'd be petrified on Scared Straight. They had to call Joe a pretty little redhead and stroke the side of your face and ask you if the curtain matched the drapes. Yo, Astray, you're doing so quick. I would never, I would never commit a crime again. You know what, Rory? No legal parking, no speeding. You know what, homie did homework. You know you got trouble first thing you do, you get home. I'd be Dr. Rory now. Rory went home and did straight to his homework. Bro, Scared Straight. That shit. There was even ones that they had to take off the internet because they were so intense that this day and age, it looks like child abuse. Yeah, these young dudes, they don't care about J.J. I don't know. They want to go. But I mean, if you're asking all those shows, I would have had five baby mothers or not sure if my kid is mine. I wouldn't have wanted them on any of those shows. There's no good outcome. Scared Straight? No, I'm saying all the daytime. Oh, Ricky Lake. Yeah. Because either way, it's the kids either not yours or the girls not yours. No one really wins in any of us. I definitely would have been the homegirl. Like I'm telling you, he's cheating on you. And Ricky be like, we're going to bring out the proof that have been me. I'd have been the hate that has homegirl for sure. That nigga cheating on you. Yeah, that's how you feel. But you the one cheating? Yeah. Because when you go do a Ricky bring out the homeboy that you've been texting out from the back, you know she was good for that. Well, we have Darryl here and he seems to have a birth disease. Yo, Muff just dropped. Nah, I would have been like Judge Judy or some shit like that. But that one. Who you suing? I don't know. Suing a nigga for wasting my time. I could definitely see the marriage taking the nigga to court for wasting my time. Taking wasting my fucking time. And Judge Judy cursing you out for wasting her time. Exactly. No, I don't want. I'll take it to Joe Brown. I'm going to judge Joe Brown in Batman. You might have a better shot there. Yeah, I'll take it to Judge Joe Brown. That will be your case though. Like how would you even pitch that one? You like what's the damages versus the time ratio? I was investing money into living in a certain place, doing certain things. All of this because you told me that we would get married and have a family. So I went to IV I went to IVF I invested money in that. I'm in my 30s. I wasted time now I can't have kids. And you decided you don't want me wasting my time. All I got to do is prove that you have been wasting my time the whole time. So all I got to do is have evidence that when you were telling me that you were planning this future with me that you actually did not mean that and you were leading me to falsely believe things. Gotcha. Your honor, I told you this bitch was crazy. Right. And could men take women to court for like if they don't look that. All right, no. Thank you. I knew you was about to go somewhere dark with it. I just. They don't never want me to get my shit off. And they be getting so mad at me like why she always stopping Ma? Because I like having a job. I want to continue to have a job. I want to continue to have sponsors. I'm just saying if women could do that, we should be able to take them to court for like, you know, she don't really look like that though. Like if you wash your face, like you wash that makeup off and it ain't that. Can I get my money back from the date? Ma, you can tell what people really look like through makeup. Shit. Hell no. Not all the time. What feature can what feature that will make a woman ugly? Can you not tell through makeup? That nose don't be like the contour game is crazy. The contour, like when they make it look like the like the nose is like symmetric, you know what I mean? Like right there. When that makeup come off, that should be like right. That's anti black Ma. No, it's not. Why you go right to that? It's not. No, it's not. See, don't do that. You making it that. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying sometimes that makeup, it changes your face. But if you. I'm speaking from a victim. Oh, you're a victim. I've been a victim. If you're sitting in somebody's face though, Ma, you can see like makeup pictures. Yes. Right. Cause if you take a picture and you have a face full of makeup, it can kind of ulcer. It can hide things. That's the whole purpose of contouring. But if you sit in like I have my nose contour right now, if you're sitting in my face, you can still see the shape of my nose, like the texture in 3D through the makeup. Now imagine if you was to wipe all of that off. No brows. Skin is just not, you know, glowing like that. Dry a little bit. Like you not hydrated really. But you could also see that through makeup, makeup, be patchy and ashy. When we. Yeah, but we met online. So it was pictures first. Okay. Videos first. And then we get on a date. Cause you don't take her on a daytime, only nighttime, harsh lighting. But she works. So she can only, she can only do dinner at like 7 38 o'clock. Right. It's not my fault. So okay, can we go to dinner? Say we hit it off. Back at her place. Cool. Wake up in the morning, spend the night. And I'm not saying we had sex, but you know, I ended up staying over whatever. Cool. Or my place, kind of my place, you end up staying over. No sex. No, I mean, just chill, fall asleep. You gotta get comfortable. It's all right. Morning come. How you getting who? Who let you in? So you're adding up Uber receipts. Yeah. Like I'm just saying like, Who let you in? It's funny. Yeah. This is not the moment I lay down and went to sleep with my career. I'm just saying. I asked myself, who is this person? Yeah. Who is this person? Who are you? Has that happened to you often? Cause I feel like most women, you can tell if they ugly. Like there's some celebrities that we know and we see them in makeup. It's like, I know you ugly. If underneath that makeup, you can still tell you've really been tricked before. I've been catholic. I've been tricked before, but not like, she didn't like, Yeah. She didn't look nothing like the makeup was a big difference, but she wasn't ugly though. The makeup, they make a big difference though, but she wasn't an ugly girl. Yeah. That's definitely happened. But I haven't been like flat out catfish like show to the spot and you were a different person. Like, or you just did the shoulder up shit and yeah, that's never happened to me, but I've definitely been a victim of, oh, you're great at taking photos. You're really good at angles. Yeah. You know, you're lighting. I've been a victim of that. Like you, yeah, you don't look like that in person at all. Outside of just the makeup one. You just don't even look like that. So I've been there, but at that point, you know, charges the game. You're still gonna beat raw. To my in it. To my in it. Do we have voicemails? We don't. Fuck. Not today, but the calves have beat the pistons. All right, baby D. One of your teams to hold an arm. Let's go. Minnesota went home. Minnesota went home, but your calves are going to the East of Conference finals. So let's salute to the calves. And then Spurs and OKC. I'm nervous, man, because I wanted to play the calves. No, no disrespect to James Harden. He just doesn't show up and show up in the playoffs typically. So I would play even playing. I know that's what's that's what scares it would be the next luck that this was the year that James Harden shows up. Listen, man, this is all that has to happen. Pagola do what y'all do best. I'm screaming. Oh my god. I didn't even put that in perspective. Yeah. Pagola James has to come to New York. Oh, we outside Pagola do what you do best. Wait, James has to come to New York with a new Drake album. Oh, yeah. Oh, it's over. No, we wouldn't. No, I got you. I got you. I got you. Who got you? Pagola do what y'all do best. I'm about to call Major and Mitch. Well, line that nigga, bro. Get him drunk. Pack that hooker with a little sum next to that's going to have him a little woozy, a little drowsy for the game. Man, I'm seeing three hoops out there. What's that movie where they kidnap? It was one of the Wayne's brothers that played for the Celtics. Oh, yeah, that was a movie. It was great. We're showing our age. Celtic pride. Celtic pride. Celtic pride. There you go, Peach. You know how easy they could do that with James Arden, just with two chicks from Starless? Oh, man. Like, you don't even kidnap him, do anything. Yeah. And he's not even showing up. It's going to be a good series, though. But no, I'm very proud of my nicks. I'm a very nervous nicks fan because everything is going great. Shout out to the nicks, man. Everything's going good. Everything's looking in our favor. And I've never seen that before. So it makes me nervous. Makes me very like, oh, gee, got the proper rest. I'm terrified. Everything going the way it's going. This is going to be a good conference finals on both ends. Spurs and OKC, obviously, they went back and forth for a year. The Spurs, I think, won the season series. But it's probably the two best teams in the West that are in the Western Conference Finals. Yeah. I did not see the Cavs getting to the Eastern Conference Finals at all. So I'm arresting them as well. But if the nicks have played like they did last round against Philly, then I think we'll be OK. Yeah, man. It's going to be an exciting time in New York. The energy. Summer. You know what I'm saying? I was looking up tickets. Baby, I could I hear it already. I hear the ass clapping in the sun dress. I hear it just do it in front of James. You would have run a James. Though I was pivoting. I was looking up tickets if the nicks make it to the finals, not Eastern Conference, just if they make it to the finals. Them she just was like, someone with like 100 grand. Oh, yeah. That's a regular ticket during the season sometimes. It's crazy. Yeah. But I mean, I would love to go to some of these Eastern Conference Finals games. But even last round on my birthday, I was looking up tickets. I'm just like four grand. I like I watch it. Yeah. I'm I'm of course I want to be in the building and feel that energy. But I think I'll just watch. Are they bringing the towels out? They bring the towels off for the East Conference Finals. I hope so. You got to bring the towels out, man. I would hope so. But if the nicks. This is how my like adult brain works now. If the nicks make the finals and FIFA starts, this city is going to be a fucking nightmare. Oh, yeah. Like like we may need to do the pod from Zoom. Yeah. I don't think we'll be able to move around at all. Like way too much going on. There's going to be so much fucking traffic if they make it. But I'm I'm excited for them. So shout out to all my real Nick fans that have been holding us down for this long. Yes, sir. Lot of heartbreak, but maybe this this could be our year. We're having P. Just see that looking. Y'all got that twinkling. Y'all. Like real niggas. The niggabockers. You guys can keep up. That's really where you guys thought I was going. Hey, you got a white friend, right? Oh, white friend. When you're a white friend, you always just like you kind of waiting for them to say nigga. Like you just kind of waiting like you don't say it. The nicks, nicks, nicks, nicks. Not the nicks. I don't even want to say the full nicks name because it scares the niggas. The New York nicks. The New York niggabockers. Ma, let me tell you about Rory Awkward Ass. Let me tell you about my brother though. Take a drink, son. That was good. Yeah. He we at the table told you we went to baddies. He got a look at the baddies. I also did the merits ever try to like fuck one of y'all swag. That's Rory. I mean, he always asks the inappropriate question. He always want to know who you fucking and then be lying about who he fucking. I'm not fucking anyone. I know. I know. Iceman in stores now. But that's just the you thing. Damaris and I, if we are actively sleeping with somebody, we know who the other person is. You have no idea who I'm actively sleeping with. Iceman in stores now. Iceman in stores now. A BT in stores now. Made of all the stores now. Lucky drugs are bad. Album out now. Tone stiff to edge album out now. Give you on. Tone. Look, yeah. Fuck with Tom. Yeah. Give you on. Beloved act two is coming out or that's out. It's out. I need. Yeah, I came out on Friday. I just didn't have time to give you. I'm definitely going to listen to that. But don't. Damaris, I'm going to try to angle that like it was scared the host time. They were into the question. They were into the question. It was good conversation at the table. Yeah. Like it didn't scare the hose. It was not sometimes. It was fun. They just giggled awkwardly because I did. But like they just giggled awkwardly. But like you ain't got to bring that up. No, I don't. I agree with you. Like I they were both beautiful. I didn't think you did anything wrong. Yeah, I know my homegirl. So I did when I met them, I was trying to beat. But then I was like, oh, no, y'all like actually cool. So like so. So also women also can't be platonic friends too. We can't be. We are platonic friends. We are platonic friends because unlike, you know, men, I saw that these women had crazy value as friends. I was like, I would never want to fuck that up. So you're my dogs. Got it. Shout out to Nick Grant. Smile available now. Yes, shout out to Nick. Shout out to Nick. Absolutely. Nick got to come back to New York and visit us. He coming back. He'll be back. Is he doing a tour for this project? I'm not sure yet. Yeah, I got to live with that one as well. We definitely need to give a proper Nick Grant review for the album. But yeah, I want to see I saw Nick perform live once when we went to Marlon's residency. But I want to see a full Nick show. No, Nick put on a good show. Yeah, absolutely. All right. We will see you a couple of times this week. Patreon is available. Patreon.com forward slash new. We're in mall. Yes, sir. March is there. International is available now. We need to put that to top that. Yeah, we will be back very soon. Thank you to everyone that listened this far into the episode. If you want to see me twerking to Iceman, go to our Patreon. Our live stream is available now for the $20 and up to here. Twerking to Iceman. Well, technically to made honor by you. Twerking to made honor. All right. Twerk, twerk, twerk, twerk, twerk something. All right, we'll talk to y'all soon. Be safe. Be blessed. I'm not naked. He's just ginger. Peace. This is an I Heart podcast.