Giggling about gold diggers, mean girls, and nudes
52 min
•Mar 31, 20262 months agoSummary
Two comedians discuss internet trends including 'catching print' (assessing male anatomy through clothing), gold digger behavior in relationships, the viral book 'Strangers' by Belle Burden, and personal experiences with dating, breakups, and social media culture.
Insights
- Men exhibit gold digger behavior more frequently than commonly acknowledged, pursuing women for status, followers, or family wealth rather than genuine connection
- Narcissistic individuals often possess strong intuition for identifying talent and potential in others before those individuals recognize it themselves
- Social media has created information overload that makes it difficult to distinguish between real news and AI-generated or fabricated stories
- Generational differences in content consumption show Gen Z prioritizes new, immediate content over rewatching older media despite its quality
- Therapy terminology has become weaponized by people without actual therapeutic training, allowing them to dismiss legitimate concerns as 'buzzwords'
Trends
Viral TikTok trend of analyzing male anatomy through visible clothing bulges as dating assessment toolIncreased discussion of 'tradwife' lifestyle and power imbalances in traditional marriage structuresMemorialization of 2000s-2010s aesthetic (Jersey Shore, metrosexual culture) as nostalgic cultural momentWomen's reluctance to send intimate photos due to historical revenge porn fears, now mitigated by AI deepfake excuseGrowing awareness of clout-chasing behavior in dating, particularly among men pursuing women with social capitalShift in comedy from male-centric wife-bashing to female comedians discussing their own experiences and perspectivesIncreased scrutiny of wealthy individuals' narratives and expectation they acknowledge privilege while discussing hardshipTikTok algorithm creating filter bubbles that reinforce specific content types rather than diverse recommendations
Topics
Dating and relationship dynamicsGold digger behavior in modern datingNarcissistic personality traits and manipulationViral internet trends and TikTok cultureBook recommendations and literary discussionWealth, privilege, and class dynamicsGender roles and traditional marriage structuresIntimate photography and consentSocial media algorithm effectsTherapy terminology misuseBreakup psychology and timingComedy and female perspectivesGenerational differences in media consumptionPersonal branding and authenticityAI and misinformation on social media
Companies
Netflix
Discussed as platform for watching new shows and murder documentaries; mentioned as preferred source for current content
TikTok
Primary platform where viral trends like 'catching print' originate; discussed for algorithm issues and misinformatio...
Primark
Featured in advertisement segment about affordable fashion; promoted as source of inexpensive stylish clothing
EDF Energy
Electricity provider featured in advertisement offering rewards for reduced peak-time usage
People
Belle Burden
Wrote memoir 'Strangers' about marriage and privilege; discussed as example of wealthy person addressing personal str...
John Hamm
Used as example in 'catching print' trend discussion for visible clothing bulges
Zendaya
Referenced as style inspiration for a bob haircut discussion
Paulie D
Jersey Shore cast member discussed as sexual awakening reference from childhood television viewing
Quotes
"I'd be too powerful and I'd use it for evil. For pure evil, straight evil."
Host (discussing hiding physical attributes)•Early episode
"The one good thing about AI is that if your nudes ever leak, say it's AI. That's AI, babe."
Host•Mid-episode
"The worst thing to ever happen to our generation is men learning therapy words but not actually going."
Host•Mid-episode
"You have to always keep in the back of your head that you could get murdered. And if you do get murdered, it's 80% chance that it's the husband."
Host•Late episode
"It's going to take 10 minutes. You've had a longer poop than that."
Host (discussing breakups)•Late episode
Full Transcript
There it is, her suspicious face. She doesn't believe you. All you did was tell her your shirt was Chanel. She said, what's Chanel? You said, don't know, but you do know it feels chic and so does she. She felt it for almost too long, then you gave her 12 to show off the fit. She nearly spat out her coffin. You deliver the final bombshell? It's from Primark, only 14 quid. Surprises served. Shockingly chic for £14. That's so Primark. Available in-store and on Click and Collect. At EDF, we don't just encourage you to use less electricity. We actually reward you for it. That's why when you use less during peak times on weekdays, we give you free electricity on Sundays. How you use it is up to you. EDF. Change is in our power. Households to ship weekday peak usage by 40% could earn up to 16 hours of free electricity per week, subject to fair usage cap. For all season scenes, visit EDFenergy.com forward slash R-Hipham Power. Sup, Gigloos? Cary, fix the Wi-Fi. Manifest that shirt. We can't be managed. I mean, the day just got away from me. Hey. Look, I've been traveling all weekend. I've been in four different states. No, I actually felt really bad today because, look, I wanted to cancel and that's not like a crazy. Guys, I'm on a four hour flight trying to get back to record in the studio with Paige and I'm like, I'm going to do it for the Gigloos. I'm getting there. We're getting in the studio. I get a text, hey, you want to do virtual? And I said, I did not fly four hours to get here on time. We're filming and I'm in my sunglasses and my glasses. Well, we're filming at nighttime. And so like past a certain point in the day, I'm a baby. That's it. I'm done. And I'm on this new thing where like, I just wake up every day at 430 and then I'm up. Oh, Kitty's loving it because she's been eating at 6am. So she's pumped. I do have to say 430am. That's too much day for me. No, it's way too much day. So today at 4, I was like, I've done a day. Well, I landed was like, bitch, get your ass to the studio. And then I was like, I was like, what did I, what did I miss over the weekend? Did anything happen? Crazy stuff has went down. Yeah. Did you hear 12 tons of Kit Kats were robbed in Europe? There was a Kit Kat robbery heist. May have been Kinder Bueno sending out a hit. Wait, like 12. I don't know what a ton is, but it sounds like a lot. I think of a ton as like one elephant. Okay. 12 of them. I didn't even know Kit Kats could weigh that much because they're wafers. Where? On a train in Europe. So like now I have to wait for the documentary. No, I don't think so. It's come up in multiple possible AI posts. We don't know if anything's real anymore. I came to the pod and I said, I have one thing and one thing only to speak about. And it could take the full 45 minutes. Not the first time it's happened. Have you seen on the internet a thing called catching print? I have not. I have not. Please educate me. Take a seat if you weren't already sitting. Wait, let me get my notes. Let me get my favorite pencil. A man. Okay. A gay man. And we're back in a gay man. Again, I'm on the internet and said girls, enough time has gone by. Enough is enough. Basically you have been. What's the word? Manipulated. Yeah. Like your looks are so prominent on how you get treated. You need to start knowing how big men's penis sizes are. And I'm going to teach you. So it's taking hold of TikTok. It's literally taking hold of the internet because when I first saw it, I felt like it was very niche. I was in a weird pocket. I was in like a small corner of the internet. And I was like, this is so interesting. Wait till the girls catch on. And as the days go by, the girls are making videos about it. So, you know, in like a pant, a normal pant for a man, like a gene or a chino. And where does it? I love how you say chino. Chino. Have you seen the girl on the show? There's a girl doing a whole series about words she loves that you say. I think the one that I saw was she was like, when Paige says loser, it's like you feel it in your core. You go loser. You're a loser. No, and that's my core. You're a loser. And she also likes the way I say sugar. And I loved that she was like, she makes it sound so good. It's funny because we don't listen to each other talk, so we don't know how we sound. So that was very fun for us. But I do have to say, like girls with boobs, they're basically like chest bulges. Like you can see our boobs. Yeah, like, you know, you know what you're getting. You can see our butts. You know what you're getting. Why can't we see? So it's very, yeah. And people treat you completely differently. Like you're a perfect example. No one knows you have tits. No one knows. Because I cover them up. And you do that purposefully. I do it purposefully because I don't want people to treat me better because of my beautiful breasts. I'd be too powerful and I'd use it for evil. For pure evil, straight evil. I was going to say you stuffed your bras a couple of nights and it's gotten crazy. You put a little chicken fillet, a little chicky chicky. And the other day I put my nipple pads on. That is when you're like, you go so off. It looks red, sticky. You can't go out like that. Did they also, didn't you get the ones that have like a fake piercing? I sure did. I sure did. But you couldn't really tap. What do we call her? That's not Paige. No, I don't know who she is. I haven't even really given her a name yet because she hasn't really experienced the town. Well, because I can't get drunk. I just like vomit. So it's a whole thing. That's Penelope. I can't think of any other P names. No, it's more like she's like Priya. Priya. She's like, she's really small. She's really smart, but she's really slutty. And she's fun. Yeah. Priya is fun. Paige is a business woman. Yeah. She's just like, she's doing her tuning forks. She's got a red light. Priya will cancel plans in a second if someone has more drugs at the next party. A hundred percent. Back to catching print. So like I don't even know what it's called on like where they're zippered. Like it's basically like the little, I mean, it has to have a word. I want to say lapel, but like that's not what it is. The zipper for a pant. Yeah. The zipper for a pant. So where the bulge starts would classify how big a man's penis is. Now it's trial and error. You have to learn. So I've watched so many videos showing examples of like John Hamm's pants showing examples. If it's straight, like flat, there's no bulge. Huge. If it starts like the bulge starts up at the top, small, the majority go right in the middle and you're like average. And it is interesting because all of the examples he was showing, you could tell by that man's personality. Like they carry themselves so much more with how they look underclothes than I think we do. I do have to say the guy I was with with the biggest penis. He was one of the nicest guys ever, but I actually felt bad for him because he was, it was to a point where like his life was harder because of it. Like I knew. Okay. No, like someone listening to this is like, we hate men. We're like, we support them actually. No, but he was sweet and you could just tell that he's, there's been many a woman be like, you know what this, including myself. It's too much. I can't do this. I don't want to do a whole breathing routine. You're kidding me. Yeah. You don't want to feel like you're getting divergenated every time. It's not, I mean, it's not fun. I don't know if I've ever been in this situation. I've been in the opposite one. I'm like, let's sit down. Let's talk about it. You definitely have trauma here and I'm not going to tell anyone. But what about the grower versus show or theory? Yeah. Which is real. Totally. He didn't touch on it. He didn't touch on it. Okay. So there's, there's factors, but there is, I definitely could see where he was coming from. I'm trying to think of like one example. I love that the gay man was like girls. Get it together. As someone who knows. Yeah. I mean, there's all these other things like looking at forearms, looking at hands, looking at, I do, I do think if he has thick fingers, there's something there. Yeah. Absolutely. One time. In band camp. I really hate even, I really hate that I'm even about to tell this story, but it popped in my head. And so like, I feel like when that happens on Giggly Squat, it's like, it's like God being like, I've given you this forum. Share. Share the class. On time, I dated this guy. This is years ago. Yes. Yes. Please don't judge me. I dated this guy and I found out that he was in fact cheating on me. Fine. Totally. Do your thing. I found out because I went through his phone. I saw that he was in fact sending spicy mirror pics, which I thought that was for girls, but totally do your thing. Do you think a full body pic that a guy sends nude is gay? Okay. 100%. I agree. Now he was in boxers. Okay. When he sent this picture. So he was just sending her a face card. Just like, do you like Fruit of the Loom? Like I don't know what their interactions look. Whatever the kids are doing. It was just weird. But anyway, I'll never forget being in this moment because I'm like pouring myself into this cell phone and I'm reading all these messages and I see this picture pop up. And so I'm zooming in and I'm like, in what world is that your penis in that picture? Hannah. I forget. Now this is going back. I'm going back over 10 years. Maybe 10 years, whatever. I know that I was home alone for whatever situation or maybe he was in the other room. Maybe I was on an iPad. I don't know, but I know that I was in the bedroom by myself. I found what I believe he was stuffing his pants with. And I, you are an investigative journalist and if anyone tells you you're not, they're lying. And I just had a moment where I was like, no, something's mentally wrong with it. Socks. But the way he crafted it or more similar than different. You go, babe, get a chicken. I'm like, wait, I could have, it's going to be somewhat squishy. It looks believable. Stuffing is for these photos that he sent for these photos. It was such a jarring time in my life that I couldn't even make sense of it. And I'm going to be honest. I don't think I've ever told anyone that story because I was so embarrassed and freaked out. Let's just wait 10 years and I'll tell millions. Now the girls have something else to watch out for. Isn't that so weird and creepy? There was a time when like we had flip phones when we were 14. You can't really send like blurry. This was iPhone days. But I'm saying in general, like there was a time where we were told like if you send a nude, it will go everywhere and you'll die. I'll never forget. I remember in like 2012 when all the girls like iClouds got hacked and their pictures got leaked and the whole narrative online was your famous, why would you have nude pictures? Do you remember that? Let a girl have fun. No. Let a girl take a before and after. Let her have some whimsy. Let me do what I want in the mirror, you know? But that terrified me and in my life for some reason I was... By the time you sent me like that nude when it was like, but it was like a shadow, like it wasn't you. It was so artsy. Whenever I send a nude, it has to somehow be funny or artsy and arguably possibly not me. So I always think I'm going to be in a scandal where I could be like, that wasn't me. Why do you look like you are an only van manager? Like I just got a glimpse of you and I'm like, maybe like you're going to steal me after this pot. You're going to be like, Hey, Paige, get this van while you're at it. I look like a sketchy producer. No. You're here right now. You guys, I've had a weekend. I've had a weekend. No, you, how many shows did you do this weekend? Well, I realized when I did the math, I'm going to be at 65 shows for this tour. I have two more left in North Carolina and then I'm done. Did I have strep throughout this weekend? Probably. Did I? It was tough. Yeah. It was... Where did you go? Where were you? I was in Cleveland, Columbus, Cincinnati and Salt Lake City. How are they all doing? How are the Mormons? How are you guys? The Mormons are great. I kind of walked on and I was like, you guys are the center of everything right now. I'm in the belly of the beast right now. The Mormons... I'm graphic. No, they're just so much scandal happening. I also... Book of Mormon. I told them I know about the White Salamander. I said, thank you for your work in genealogy or whatever they're into. But I tried... It's like when you're talking shit about someone and then they walk into the room, that's how I felt with the Mormons. I'm like, you guys know what I've said in some podcasts. You know when we were in high school, something would happen over the weekend and you'd be like, wow, when I show up to a homeroom like Monday morning, I'm going to kill myself. That's just like going on TikTok now. It's truly just like opening your phone. It's like, wow, okay, so everyone knows about it. Got it. It's too much. It's too much. It's too much. It's too much. Yeah, I'm like in the need of a phone break, I think. You go on the bench. Hannah's going to sit this one out because it's not healthy. It's not good for anyone. Yeah. Speaking of drama, I didn't actually read a book. I read an audiobook. Okay, different. Totally different. Totally different. Do you know I was like, I'm going to do the audiobook? Then I was like, where are audiobooks? I know we recorded one. You have to download a whole app. Yep. I thought it was just like a podcast. I was like, where's the audiobooks? I had to download an app. You did it on your phone? Yeah, I'm in a subscription-based service now. I had to give my first born away. Question. When you're listening to an audiobook, are you doing something else? Great question. So I was on the flight and I put it on and I realized I need more stimulation. Yeah. So I put something on the TV on mute while I was... Oh yeah, you're sick. I'm sick. I needed a lot going on. You're sick. Then I would kind of like space out and then once I heard something at Juicy, I'd rewind. Kind of like how you watch movies. Exactly. I see you. I hear you. So I love when a book goes viral because like, let's give it up for old school. Let's give it up for ballet. Let's give it up for opera. Like, let's give it up for the crafts. Like, original art. Okay. Whatever happened to taking pen to paper? Whatever happened to writing on a stone? Like scribes and squires. Bring it back. Bring it back because they walk so we could run. Yeah. So Stuart, who's on the road with me, told me that there's a book called The Strangers. And I said, ooh, what is that about? And she's like, everyone's talking about it. So you know, it's called Strangers. And it's by Belle Burden. Now, it's called A Memoir of Marriage. The reason it's interesting is because she is an affluent New Yorker. Her great-grandpa like invented oil or something. She's related to like some really fashion socialite icons. She went to fancy school. She's a fancy New Yorker. And she's exposing her marriage in this book. And the most beautiful part about it is... Fiction, nonfiction. Nonfiction. Oh, wow. Yeah. So she's, and she's telling the story. And you would, you're going to get pissed, but it's also beautiful. When she was younger, she was a really great writer. She wanted to be a fictional writer. And she got into this class freshman year and she wrote this, this story. And a senior in the class who was a guy raised his hand and said, I think you suck at writing and I hate your work. And she said the teacher was a man. Didn't say anything. And like a little bit later, a girl spoke up to defend her, and she was like, it was too late. I already decided I don't want to write anymore. So she went into, she's like a genius. She did law, finance, shit, all this stuff. She meets this guy and he's handsome and perfect. Went to Cornell and everything's going great. And then, wait, I don't want to give away. But long story short, she kills her husband and then she goes down. And as all these horrible things happen to her, she ends up writing a best-selling novel. So it's a crazy story about how you actually sometimes rock bottom and like tough things happening to you. The universe forces you back to be. Just like a man to just fuck everything up. No, I know. I know. And there are moments in it where you want to punch a wall. I'm actually not done with it. But if anyone wants a little audiobook, or you could order it and actually read it old school. That's what I'd like to do. That I've done once. Are you going to read it? But I'm going to keep going. Strangers, are you going to do it? No, I'm fiction. I can't do anything that's like possibly real because I feel like my life is in, I'm like, I'm like, in my life, I'm like, this is a novel. This is a book. This is actually, this is a nightmare. This is, you know, like what this is a tragedy of a trilogy. This is, this is the prequel and this is too much. It's a comedy. It's a horror. No, it's yeah. It's Shakespearean. Yes. It's what it is. It's a lot. People love when a rich person, something bad happens. And she's just like, yeah, it was privileged. Everything was perfect. She was like, I was in my Martha's Vineyard house in COVID. And then shit went down. Everyone's like, yes, talk about it. It's like, I hate when rich people pretend they don't have problems. Cause yeah, there's, then there's money issues. Different kinds of problems. And look, rich people's money issues are like next level. Like people don't even really like, like you have to be weary of people that don't like you for you and just like you because you're privileged. Well, I was, she talked to us about meeting this guy and how he, they just like work together. And then he finds out she was speaking at something cause her dad is like a big art collector. And he suddenly was like, wait, that's you. And then like he suddenly was like obsessed with her. One thing I'm waiting for because I feel like in life things just like will flip flop at some point, like truths come out or it's like, you get new information or whatever. I'm really ready for the era where men get called out for being like such clout chasers. Like I know way more men. I'm not kidding. I know way more men that are like gold diggers in the traditional sense where it's like she has a lot of followers or like her dad's rich or like she has a try like I've just seen that way more than I've seen women. Like all the women I know are successful like in their own right. I feel like the women I know are like, I just want to guy who's nice and funny. Literally just nice. They're like giving us nice and makes me laugh. It's all I need. There's so many tiktoks of girls just being like we're so tired. Like all my friends are tired. My friends that are in their late twenties are tired. My friends in like their late thirties are tired. Well that happened to me like in my late twenties for the first time ever I realized a man was using me but I was like there's no fucking way that a man is using me. Yeah it's like dystopia. I'm an innocent girl. I'm a baby deer. I'm a baby and you're a man. My job is to wear cute outfits. Like don't use me for your shit. You have the patriarchy. Why do you need me involved? When you're in your twenties and you're in that type of situation and you realize it, it almost feels like someone's like copying your homework. Like to dumb it down to the lowest level feeling. It literally feels like someone copied your essay, handed it in first and then everyone thinks like they guys did it together. It's like no she cheated off of me. Not to say he's un-controversial. And not to compliment a narcissist. I've done it a couple times in my life. Some of these narcissists have incredible taste. Like can we discuss how these narcissists they see star power before you see it. There are so many ex-boyfriends where I'm like you could start a talent agency. Start a talent agency if you're gonna find us before we know what we're capable of. I'm like they saw something in me that I never saw myself in. And you look star-searched. It's crazy cause so many people in my past who have sucked the life out of me or like wish bad for me, I look back now and I go, oh my god they thought well of me. Like they thought more of me than I thought of myself but I didn't see it and I didn't get it why I was a problem. The buzzword thing with like narcissists and stuff like that, like sometimes they are valid. Like sometimes it's not. Totally. Like if someone says stop using buzzwords that doesn't mean it's not true. No the worst thing. Sometimes they're actually 100% true. The worst thing to ever happen to our generation is men learning therapy words but not actually going. And then being like I know that's a therapy word don't use that on me. And that's plagiarism at its finest. That's actually our culture is not your costume. No our culture is literally. Like when I do the work to know what narcissistic abuse is and then I see it and then I call it out and then I'm called crazy. When I'm over here saying that's a reaction to your action because I learned that a couple years ago and you're gonna sit here and you've never seen a human therapist and you're gonna talk about therapy jargon. Like take us several seats. I just like, no that is one thing with TikTok where it's like it's almost like too much information because then you will get like a random TikTok where it's like I'm a therapist and I'm like it doesn't sound like a good one. What do you want to say? TikTok for some reason like everyone I follow and I like who are like funny, cool, stylish people none of them is on my feed and it's just like random crap and god forbid I look at something too long then it's like the rest of the day I'm, it's all that. But it's like I don't want to see random people like con artists telling me things just for clicks. Yeah. But that's what like the internet's become. There it is, her suspicious face. She doesn't believe you. All you did was tell her your shirt was Chanel. She said, what's Chanel? You said, don't know, but you do know it feels chic and so does she. She felt it for almost too long then you gave her 12 to show off the fit. She nearly spat out her coffin. You deliver the final bombshell? It's from Primark, only 14 quid. Surprises served. Shockingly chic for £14. That's so Primark. Available in-store and on Click and Collect. At EDF, we don't just encourage you to use less electricity. We actually reward you for it. That's why when you use less during peak times on weekdays, we give you free electricity on Sundays. How you use it is up to you. EDF, change is in our power. How so to ship weekday peak usage by 40% could earn up to 16 hours of free electricity per week, subject to fair usage cap. For all season scenes, visit EDFenergy.com forward slash R-Power. Also, not to go full circle, but do you think the Kit Kat robbery was a man or a woman? It's like a legitimate robbery. Yeah, I think it could have been a woman on her period. That's so sexist and misogynistic. That was fucked up. But ingenious. I don't wear you selling Kit Kat on the black market. You're about to leave this podcast, go on your phone, because your phone's listening to you, and you're going to get non-stop stories about this Tic-Tac robbery. And don't get mad at me. It's giving the guy that got abducted by dolphins for three days. That's what this story is giving. When was that? There was an AI story that a guy was like, I was abducted by dolphins and I built them a home, and it's like, that was fake. But also to bring it all together, the good thing about nudes nowadays. We keep bringing it all together. We haven't gotten one place. We haven't started a new one. Oh yeah, to bring it together way here. The one good thing about AI is that if your nudes ever leak, say it's AI. That's AI, babe. At this big age, leekum. Literally, leekum. What was I so scared of? Sure. Oh, I was 19. Post it. Please. Let me stay on their necks. Post it. It's true though. You've never taken a nude you weren't proud of. Well, yes, I've taken a nude I'm not proud of. I've never sent a nude. No, you don't. I mean, if you look through the camera roll, that's crazy. No, I've never really been huge into that. Yeah, me and you don't do news because I feel like we're talking so much that we don't need that kind of... Although I was so good at ignoring text messages. Oh, when a guy's like... Yeah, because you want to know what, if you ask a guy three questions in a row in text messages, they're only responding to the last one because their brains can't process that there were two questions prior to that. And that's how I work when they ask for nudes. I'm like, oh, sorry. I guess I didn't see that text. Oh, what I used to do. Oh my God, this is making me remember my 20s. Yeah. When a guy would be like, let me see, like, whatever. I would just always send a photo of a cat laying on their back and I thought it was so cute and funny. And he'd be like, haha, send it. You're so crazy. And I was like, I'm just a crazy. You're quirky. I was like, you've never met a girl like me. Yeah, you're like, I'm not like other girls. I'm not like other girls. I don't dress sexy. I love cats. Yeah, no, I'm so annoying. I dress as post Malone for four years straight. No, look, I feel like the word pick me gets thrown around a lot and it's like... Pick me was also a survival mechanism. What's like one other thing we can get mad at girls for doing and like how they act. But like there are so many traits of being a pick me girl that I've 100% had that you have to... You have to like grow out of... You just grow out of certain things, but you almost don't realize it when you're doing it because like society has almost like trained you to be a pick me. And then you hit a point where you're like, actually I am really smart. And so like I'm not going to pretend that I'm not in front of you. Well, that's the point of Giggly Squad. Like growing up when you would watch comedy, like the women were always about the joke. Whenever you'd see a male comedian, he's always making fun of his wife who's so naggy. His wife is like, oh my one life, my kid. So I love going on stage and being like, you know, what's annoying about my husband. And that is me making a difference in the world. No, I truly became like the man I've dreamt of. Like I think I would lay in bed in college and just be like, he's really successful. He's like passionate. He has like multiple areas of income. He like owns an apartment, can take care of an animal. I can keep a plant alive. And then I just became that. Well, it's funny and strangers. My new favorite thing. Yeah, your new personality. She was doing great. And then at some point, obviously she has kids and then she. How old is she? I think she had kids like in her 30s and she basically stopped working and she had nannies too. So she felt this guilt of like, I'm not even a full, full time mom, but I'm not working. And then everything was just around the husband's schedule and work, even though she's the one with the big trust fund. But he's like feeling like the man of the house. And it's just, it's, it's interesting. And it made me even realize like I was thinking about during my family search.org. Welcome to the pod. How like what people in my family did for a living. And then I was like, that's so sad. Like I know for a fact my great grandma was a mom. Was a star. Oh, like deep down was a star, but like was mom. There was no chance that she was like a butcher. I think if you choose to stay at home and like take care of a family and take care of a home, totally. Yes. It's more, I don't want you to be told you have to do that. Yes. Alli Wong famously has a joke where she's like, we wanted to vote, we wanted all these rights. And we wanted to be like, we're smart too. And then she's like, or were we smarter before when they thought we were done and we could just do pilates all day. And that kind of thing. Yeah. But the point is, is that when you are a tradwife, you don't have power and sometimes you think you do, but if things go wrong, you don't. Yeah. And I just like, picking who you're going to marry, it's really like, they could kill you. No, literally. Like you have to always keep in the back of your head that you could get murdered. And if you do get murdered, it's 80% chance that it's the husband. Right. And 75% of the time statistics aren't correct. Is that real? Does that make any sense? That just put my brain in a fucking pretzel. That was a dad joke. I think that was literally a joke my dad told me once. Where have the metrosexuals gone? They came out of the closet. That's why the term's gone. That's why they're gone. But I just feel like we've created so many different identities, but like metrosexuals got deleted. I know for a fact the sentence came out of my mouth in like 2008. Like I'm really into metrosexual guys. Like fast forward. Yeah, Paige. We know. Could have seen that coming. I remember like joking and calling a guy friend a metrosexual because he like had a jacket with a pattern on it. And it was like a whole thing. But like, yeah. I feel like it was guys that really liked hairspray and like used a blow dryer. Yes. Yes. You know. Yes. And they like, they tweeze their eyebrows. Tweez their eyebrows or get them waxed. And like you can tell when a guy is manicured. Like what's the difference between a Guido and a metrosexual? I knew you. Cause we just described Paulie D. I was waiting for it. We just described Paulie D. Which, look, am I going to talk bad about my first love? Like I'm not going to talk bad that I use. Have you met Paulie before? I haven't, but did you ever watch the show growing up Goddy? Yes. That was like one of my biggest sexual awakenings. I feel like, because I feel like I was in like, I don't know, maybe like fifth or sixth grade. And I was just like, what? When he walked out with his spikes hair and his white headband. What is, what is that? Like I, how bad did you want to go tanning with him? So badly. I'm trying to think of like what one was my favorite and I can't even think of his name. But I know he was the youngest one. I went to a school in Brooklyn where it was just all growing up Goddy. No, I loved an earring. I loved a blowout. Like I was like, no, that's cool. Like I liked when they had such sunburn under their eyes from the tanning bed. Like you could see the goggle. Like I loved that. Have you ever been to the Staten Island Mall? No, but I feel like I love that. You would have loved it. There was a time, and who knew it was a time in history where like you look back and there's cavemen. Yeah. There was a time in the Staten Island Mall where every guy had a blowout and a white Nike headband full tan diamond studs. The more I think about it, I've never been to Staten Island. But, but you want to know what people are like so rude to people that are from Staten Island. And now that I think about it, like those are our people. They are the city. Like they are, I would say they are also primarily Italian and it gets a lot of like gross Staten Island. Yes. I bet they have some of the best food. Italian food, yeah. Do you think that they have their own little secret? They're like, yeah, I keep talking shit about Staten Island, but it's like actually like a tropical village. Well, we talk about like cats having like bad PR, but they like don't care. I feel like that's like the same with like Italians. I've heard there's just huge mansions everywhere there. Yeah, they're like we don't care. Look, I'll just say Staten Island, not the worst island of the year. No, definitely. That I touch. That that that. Wait, that was really good. Dark, but really good. Not to bring up reality TV. Yeah. Someone was telling me that like Ladies of London is really good. Yeah, you can't watch it. I can't watch it because I have PTSD, but it made me think I used to love Made in Chelsea. Can we, can the girls who are bored and want to rewatch or something watch Made in Chelsea? I would rewatch it except it's like 17 seasons. Is it? But don't you like that? Yeah, but there's something about me like I I'm a product of my environment. I'm literally Gen Z like I want new. I want more. I want it right now. Give it to me now. Like if I ordered it now, then deliver it now. Like I don't like watching older things because I'm like, I don't care. Yeah, happened already. Yeah. What did you just make? Like when I go on Netflix and something new is up there and it says 2026 under it, I I get that little fire emoji on this new show. I haven't seen it yet. Fucking play it. Like I get so excited. Speaking of murder, there is actually a new show on Netflix and each episode. No, each episode is a different murder in New York City. Yes, I've seen that. It was charting really high. I'm still binging drag race. Oh, right. I have a full-time job right now. But drag race, just to go back on drag race, it's so amazing. They're writing songs. They're acting. They're doing stand up. They're doing roasts. They're making dresses. They're doing everything. So the other day I was talking to a brand and they were like, can you do like tell a story or something for us? And I said, what if I told a story through song? No, you didn't. And my team was like, hey, you're really busy this weekend. I don't know. I feel all the time. What kind of song? Like you were going to do an ad and it was going to be you singing a song. So I wrote a song because I was passionate about it. I just, when the creativity comes, I can't. Can you say to a brand? It's for honest wipes. And immediately I knew exactly what came. It flowed through me and everyone was like, you've never done this before. And like it's a quick turnaround. And I said, guys, I got this. So before my show on like Saturday, I had Stuart film the music video and the world premiere is airing today on Tuesday. My first ever music drop. And yeah, I'm doing well. I told my husband he was like, what? No, you've gone too far. But this is a thing. Your confidence. Your confidence should be studied because it wouldn't even enter my fucking brain to be like, let's put on a performance. Let's do a little diddy. I don't know if it's confident. It's more that I like to try new things. And I like to challenge myself. I get bored very easily. That's why we're friends because I hate new things. I hate change. I'm not going out of my comfort zone. That's insane. Also, you guys know how I love my life. And someone DMed me actually because a lot of things I post are rage bait for you. And I know when you don't respond that like you got some message. Someone DMed me the other day. What did you post? And they were like, they were like, why would she do that? Like we know you're obviously going to post like these shocks like a crazy shoe and people and this girl. I said, Christine Cranston wrote page bait and I'm like, that's what it's called now. Page bait. So I think the music video is also a little page bait because I just want to see your reaction. I just, whatever you live your truth. No, it's comforting to me to know that you move throughout your day. And you think of me with such abandon. No, like you think of me. Whether it's whether it's like this is going to annoy her or make her happy. Who cares you're thinking of me. Also, can I just say I do respect your boundaries because when we were first doing our tour, I was like, Hey, obviously we need like a dance opening and you said over my dead body and I never brought it up again. Wait, I was just going to say I must have expelled that from my brain because I don't even remember that. I just was like, do a little, a little dance in the beginning and you said, I think I might have thought you were kidding. You gave me a, you gave me that side look you gave and I said, I am so sorry, Miss Page. Yeah, there's sometimes I'm like, don't even don't even come with me. I just saw a message there like, I know Page is having a day and she doesn't need this. When in doubt, I don't need this. Have you heard about mean girl handwriting? And you know what I have seen over the years, there's been some accusations of mean girl behavior. Yeah. And I just want to say you do not have mean girl handwriting. I don't even know what it is, but I knew I didn't have it. Mean girl handwriting is the perfect bubble letters and it's not like nerdy. It's like crisp and like the girl in the class who's popular but like literally evil inside. I really think that's true. I've never met a mean girl who writes messy. No. Never, never. Maybe it has something to do with like the brain hand connectivity. Like it's psychopathic. Like you have to be psychopath to like start a sentence and be as crisp by the end. It's so funny though because there were so many girls in high school where I would be like, fuck, I love her notebook, but I hate her. Does Jen Alphen even know how to write? No, I did get a DM the other day from a gigler that was like, a lot of the people you were talking about is Jen Alpha. Okay. And I was just like, okay. Let's apologize. And so like I apologize that there are some times that I say Gen Z and I mean Jen Alpha because she was like, I'm almost 30 and I would never do that. Also, you came at me for how I looked, which is perfectly valid, but now I have to bring something up. The giglers are going to be upset. You said you hate lace. Why are you wearing lace? Oh, this is quite different. Okay. This is quite different. Stick your case. Stick your case. This is quite different because... Keep repeating it and it'll... And this is quite different because... Coming up with like a tour at the end, like me and Hannah were trying to think like, okay, if we do another tour, like what would theme be and like... So we just like go back and forth with like stupid jokes, but this is quite different. It's a good... This is quite different. Then last time. This is different because it's the same color as the shirt. Like it's not a different color lace and you can't see through it really. Like it's not giving that like full lacy vibe. Okay. Yeah. You don't look like one looks like lingerie. Yeah. And there's just like certain things, certain pieces that I think lace makes look a little matronly and it's not... It's not across the board. So like I do, whenever I say this, I get a lot of giglers like DMing me their wedding dress. That's like full of lace and there are some I like and some I don't. I don't want to make a blanket statement about lace, but I'm not going to ever tell you that I don't like your wedding dress because my handwriting is not that good. So like I can't do that. I just want you to like hold yourself accountable for the things you've said in the past. I've had a lot of Daphne meetings about lace. Really? Yeah. Girls do like it. Yeah. And I'm going to be honest, I've looked at so many swatches and there are some that I'm just like, I don't like that though. And I can't make something that I don't like, but I am looking into it. Also when you do have a smaller boob, like if I had smaller boobs, I feel like I would wear like those little lace tops all the time. Lacy tops. Not full lace, but you know, like, because when I wear, I feel like I'm literally wearing lingerie. You know what's funny is like I live my life being like... You know what's funny? From the beginning of time. When my mom met my dad. The purpose of our existence. There are so many times where I say to myself, wow, if I had big boobs, I would be like, I would do this or I would do that or I would wear that. And it's important to know that there's a girl somewhere else living your opposite life wishing she had your problems. And I would say the same thing about straight haired girls and curly haired girls. Yes. I've never met a curly hair girl that was like, I wish my hair was straight. And straight hair girls like, I wish my hair would hold a curl. You know, we actually have pretty similar air dried hair. And we don't talk about it a lot. We don't talk about it a lot. We have like the same kind of... Except people think mine is stringy. Do they? Because I don't brush it all the time. I don't really brush mine. Like I didn't brush mine. This is like textures, like trezumé texture spray. My mom. Oh, good call. Good plug. Good plug. Do you guys hear that? That was organic. There it is, her suspicious face. She doesn't believe you. All you did was tell her your shirt was Chanel. She said, what's Chanel? You said, don't know, but you do know it feels chic. And so does she. She felt it for almost too long. Then you gave her 12 to show off the fit. She nearly spat out her coffin. You deliver the final bombshell? It's from Primark, only 14 quid. Surprises served. Shockingly chic for £14. That's so Primark. Available in-store and on Click and Collect. At EDF, we don't just encourage you to use less electricity. We actually reward you for it. That's why when you use less dream peak times on weekdays, we give you free electricity on Sundays. How you use it is up to you. EDF, change is in our power. House Odds is shipped weekday peak usage by 40%. Could earn up to 16 hours of free electricity per week. Subject to fair usage cap. For all season scenes, visit EDF.energy.com forward slash R-Hipened Power. My mom is getting a bob tomorrow. A cunty bob. Stop. I know. How short is she going? She was going like Zendaya vibe, like right under the ear. Like a little, and a wind tour. I don't think she's, but she wants a side part. I don't know, I'm excited for her. I'm a little nervous. My mom might have a new personality afterwards. Well, that does happen with a bob. She's going to start being Kurt with me. Yes. Sorry. Do you want to know why that made me stop? Because this is so personal. This is so weird. Once I met a psychic, tell me that that guy named Kurt. Kurtis actually was going to come into my life and like to be weary of him. And so like, I'm not kidding. At least once a month, I think like. When did they say that to you? Kurtis? When did they say that to you? Like two years ago. Okay. No, no, I just, I do have a friend who, our mutual friend who I think was with a guy named Kurtis who was not good for her. I don't know that person. So I don't, I don't, I'm not privy to that information. I sent an email today with the word privy. How'd you spell it? Wait, you know, wrong efforts. I sent it, I sent it pre-ve. At first I didn't, it's a lie. I sent an email today and you guys know my mom's on my emails, but this one she was legit on. She both were editing. This one, like she was there. She was in the thread, like Kim Disorbo. People knew she was there. She was allowed to be there. Okay. She was actually there. I had seen her response that she had sent the night before and then this morning I woke up and I wrote my own response to an email and she texted me like 20 minutes later. I was like, saw your response superb job. Superb. Wait, if some, if some. I'm almost 34. No, if some were, I respected, said I did something superb, I'd retire. Because I like, obviously I second guessed myself, but I, like every other woman, I take away the exclamation marks that I think that I need. I don't give like, hi, sorry. I give, no, what the fuck? Like I give, I try an email the way a man would email, but then I do always have a regret where I'm like, oh my God, do they think I'm a bitch? Like, was that really mean or like, was that assertive? And my mom giving me that, like, that was a phenomenal email. Me and you together are really good at business because we always play good cop, bad cop. And we go back and forth. Totally. But like if you say something stern, I always go, LOL. And if I have like a lot of ideas, you go, oh, Hannah, I'm being crazy again. So we like soft and actually people were really pissed that I, about that clip. Some people I think that I, that I didn't interrupt the meeting to say like I got the wrong food and that I should have been more assertive about it. Oh, shut up. Fuck up. I hate when people say, okay, well, if I was in the situation, okay, well, maybe people were like in the situation. You shouldn't be eating like that an important meeting. This is the thing. We, I was up since 5am. We got off a flight straight to the meeting. I have a lot going on and sometimes I don't want to deal with. Do not. I want to get into altercation with the waiter. Do not defend yourself here, honey, over a situation that no one's even seen. No, they, we didn't even give good details. Honestly, we told the story wrong. So please do not sit here and think you're going to defend yourself. Wait, does Kim, has she ever given any notes about my emails? No, she hasn't. Really? But I'll keep an ear out. Yeah, keep an ear out. The other day my dad called me and he was like, uh, you said no to and like said something. And I was like, what? And he was like, yeah, why don't you want to do that? I was like, it doesn't really work with my schedule. I'm like, wait, where are you on my emails? And he was like, oh, your mom, I think they sit down for dinner. No, Hannah, they sit, I'm not kidding. They sit down for dinner. They turn on Giggly Squad on the TV on YouTube. Doesn't matter if it's, if they've watched Mondays and it's, if they've watched Tuesday's episode, they're rewatching it Wednesday and then they're waiting for Fridays. They sit there, they bring up the laptop. That's my family. They look to see what I'm doing. They talk about me. I mean, well, your brother Gary's like, hello? Oh, please. He had his time. Okay. He had his chance and he had his time. He did. My thing with emails, when I'm, when I have the power in the situation, I love no punctuation. Yeah. I'm not like in a girly like way, like just writing XO and stuff. Yeah. But I just, I, I respond as fast as possible and as. I think that's the most important. And just like, da-da-da-da. So it's like, I'm, I'm running. I think it's more important, and I should take my own advice. I think it's more important to respond faster fast than to have like a complete thought, thought idea. A thousand percent. And I actually, from strangers, I learned this lady was talking about, she was in a relationship. That she didn't want to be in. And she goes, I finally got the balls to break up with him. And she's like, it's crazy that it took a year of me thinking about it, but only 10 minutes to actually break up with him. Oh. You feel that? Yeah. Well, you got like a visceral reaction to that. That felt because I thought I was the only person. Because no, sometimes I like would think that there was something wrong with me that I'm like, every boyfriend, I'm like, Oh, babe, I'm mentally out of here. Like I've, I've given you an imaginary deadline. You didn't hit it. So now I'm mentally taking myself out of it and I'll let you know. One of the times right for you. Once she moved into her new apartment, he gets fired from his job. He's sleeping on our couch. She's like, I need this guy to leave. He could not get the balls. Once I turned 25 and was like, so done with, I don't know, just like really immature men. And then my next couple of relationships, I feel like maybe as a protective mechanism, I mentally was out way before it actually happened. I actually lied. I have cried a lot, but it's while breaking up with them. So they can't. So they don't feel like you're, so you're good. I'm good. You're good. I can't muster it up. I do have to say all of my boyfriends of my past, most of them were really good guys and I actually was sad because I was like, it's going to be weird not talking tomorrow, but like you're not my husband, but like you're a great person. See, you want to know actually, actually I take that back. The one nice thing I do for men during breakups is I do let them perform the speech that they've prepared. Like I do let them have like I do let them see me in person because I know that they've had something that they have to get out. And I know that like closure is important to some people. Yeah. Never been closure has actually never really been that important to me. Like if I never spoke to someone again, I'd be like, okay, like, and I've done it, but that's just, I think, deep anyway. We don't have the time to get into it, but I let them do their performance and I've seen actually some really good ones where I'm like, Hey, maybe you have a point and then I'm like, no, no, no. Thank you so much for that. My decision is final and my favorite is like when they're like, can we hook up one more time? Okay, I don't think you understand the point of breakups because I don't want to anymore. Yeah. So that's interesting. But overall it's just so interesting how like the breakup seems like this big scary thing, but it's literally going to take 10 minutes. Girl, it'll take you 10 minutes. You've had a longer poop than that. No, true. And then there are some then once you're out of it. Oh, you wait 20 times and I'm like, oh, hello. What the fuck? No, it's crazy, but you have to get there and it's like you really do have to get there on your own. And there are so many times I've broken up with people and I'm like so mad at myself because I'm like, why didn't I fucking do that two years ago? And you really, you can't get mad at yourself because it's fate. If you didn't stay, then maybe you wouldn't have met the person you're supposed to be with or maybe like you wouldn't have moved to a new city and gotten a new. So it's really like I truly do believe in like divine timing, but I also do believe that like, you know, early on if this guy, you know the day they ask you to be your third girlfriend, like, you know, what do you mean? Like, I feel like every boyfriend I've ever had, like the moment they're like, will you be my girlfriend? My guts been like, no. Oh, you know, I know getting this. The other thing where you know immediately when a person is right. Sure, maybe. I think we are. We are different with that. You want to know what we just said the same thing. I said it in the pessimistic way. You said it in the optimistic way. And that's why we're best friends. I'm so happy you're my best friend. And I'm so happy you're my carry out there. I couldn't. I love how your only note this episode was catching print. Yeah. That's why I've been doing all week. Since you left me over the weekend. That's all I've been doing. That's all you've been doing. Did you have a restful weekend? What did I do? I feel like I like can't even remember what I did this weekend. Did you watch anything? Did you make any art? Oh my God, what did I do this weekend? I'm really, I'm really doing my like taking my 10,000 steps seriously and I started doing 12,330 again. Okay, I told you you only need 7,000. Okay, well, my 10 is important to me. Are you doing it outside or on your walking pad? A little bit of both. Josephine used my walking pad the other day for a Daphne video with the TSA bin that I ordered on Amazon. And there are a couple of giglers that were like you put a TSA bin on your walking pad and I'm like... No, that was creative. That was movie magic. That was just working with what you've got at home. Yes, perfect. We like feel it. We're all like, thank you guys so much for giggling with us. We love you so, so, so much. Stay happy and healthy. Yeah. I had Dez, I told him to order me Italian food halfway through the podcast. Hannah, Ivachik and Parm waiting for me at home. We're not sisters, Halle, we're twins. We're twins. Bye.