The Pat McAfee Show

PMS 2.0 1536 - Utah Jazz/Mammoth Owner Ryan Smith, Kendrick Perkins, Mike Trout, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

122 min
Apr 17, 202610 days ago
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Summary

The Pat McAfee Show covers WrestleMania Eve with appearances from Utah Jazz/Mammoth owner Ryan Smith, NBA analyst Kendrick Perkins, baseball star Mike Trout, and NFL veteran AJ Hawk. The episode focuses on playoff season across multiple sports (NBA, NHL, MLB) and WrestleMania's impact on the wrestling business.

Insights
  • NBA tanking is a systemic issue requiring league-wide solutions beyond fining individual teams; rebuilding timelines and lottery structure need fundamental redesign
  • Generational talent like Victor Wembanyama represents a new standard for player development through mentorship with all-time greats (KG, Jamal Crawford, Tim Duncan)
  • Sports ownership is evolving toward younger, self-made billionaires (Ryan Smith model) who invest heavily in fan experience and facility infrastructure as competitive advantages
  • Professional athletes' recovery and longevity strategies have dramatically evolved; technology like cryotherapy chambers are now standard competitive tools
  • Playoff season across multiple sports creates unprecedented entertainment density and betting engagement opportunities for casual fans
Trends
Young billionaire sports ownership model prioritizing fan experience and community investment over traditional cost-cuttingRecovery technology and biohacking becoming standard competitive advantages in professional sportsIncreased transparency from sports voters/decision-makers creating fan engagement but also controversyExpansion franchises (Utah Hockey Club) outperforming established teams through cultural reset and aggressive player acquisitionMLB pitch clock and automated ball-strike systems improving game pace and viewer engagementGenerational talent mentorship with all-time greats becoming expected player development pathwayMulti-sport playoff scheduling creating viewer choice challenges and engagement opportunitiesBaseball's three-true-outcomes era evolving with emphasis on team at-bats over individual heroicsProfessional wrestling's business model dependent on larger-than-life personalities and spectacleSports betting integration becoming primary engagement driver for casual fans during playoffs
Topics
NBA Tanking and Lottery ReformVictor Wembanyama's MVP and Defensive Player of the Year CaseUtah Hockey Club's Expansion SuccessNBA Playoff Predictions and Conference FavoritesMike Trout's Injury Recovery and PerformanceMLB Pitch Clock and Automated Strike Zone ImplementationWrestleMania Business Model and SpectacleSports Ownership Evolution and Investment StrategyProfessional Athlete Recovery TechnologyKendrick Perkins' All-NBA Voting TransparencyLeBron James at Age 41 in PlayoffsCody Rhodes vs Randy Orton StorylineMulti-Sport Playoff Scheduling ConflictsBaseball Team Chemistry and Collective PerformanceGolf Course Development and Sports Diversification
Companies
Utah Jazz
Ryan Smith is owner; team missed playoffs after fine for potential tanking behavior
Utah Hockey Club (Mammoth)
Ryan Smith's NHL expansion franchise relocated from Phoenix; made playoffs in year two
ESPN
Broadcasting WrestleMania and NBA/NHL playoff coverage; primary sports media partner
WWE
WrestleMania event coverage; Randy Orton vs Cody Rhodes main storyline discussed
NBA
League-wide tanking discussion; playoff format and lottery system under scrutiny
NHL
Playoff coverage; Utah Hockey Club's inaugural playoff run featured
MLB
Pitch clock and automated strike zone implementation; Angels and Padres games discussed
Qualtrics
Ryan Smith's survey software company; sold twice, built his billionaire status
DraftKings
Sports betting platform mentioned for playoff engagement opportunities
The Masters
Golf tournament featured in 'Oh No' segment with player mishaps
People
Ryan Smith
47-year-old self-made billionaire discussing expansion hockey success and NBA tanking fine
Kendrick Perkins
Voting on All-NBA teams and awards; defending controversial voting transparency
Mike Trout
Discussing injury recovery, performance improvements, and new golf course development
AJ Hawk
Regular co-host providing sports analysis and commentary throughout episode
Pat McAfee
Primary host; also featured as WrestleMania participant with Randy Orton
Randy Orton
14-time world champion; main event storyline with Cody Rhodes at WrestleMania
Victor Wembanyama
Generational talent discussed for MVP and Defensive Player of Year consideration
LeBron James
41-year-old veteran in playoff contention; GOAT debate implications discussed
Cody Rhodes
Main event opponent to Randy Orton; storyline antagonist in business-saving narrative
Gary Bettman
Facilitated Utah Hockey Club relocation and expansion approval
Steph Curry
Returning from injury; playing in NBA play-in games
LaMelo Ball
Potential All-NBA candidate; Kendrick Perkins voting consideration
Gregg Popovich
Coach of the Year candidate; managing Wembanyama's minutes and development
Joe Mazzulla
Coach of the Year consideration; Kendrick Perkins did not vote for him
Zack Bryan
Stadium-selling artist featured in sports blooper segment playing basketball
Quotes
"I'm fax over feelings okay I'm fax over feelings the point is hadn't been relevant since the month of never wear all i'm saying is he has the numbers he has the damn numbers if he gets his team into the post season they are the biggest surprise in the nba you telling me that don't deserve a third team all nba nod you damn right it do"
Kendrick Perkins~45 minutes
"what is the rebuild experience in the mba okay we're going to have 30 teams we now have two more that are looking online great markets you're going to have eight to ten teams every year that are going to have to pull into the pit put new gas in the car and change out the tires"
Ryan Smith~60 minutes
"i just turned 47 happy birthday man damn birthday rock happy birthday 47 you've sold your survey company uh two times i do believe you end up becoming the owner of your childhood team the utah jazz"
Pat McAfee~50 minutes
"coming into spring this year i tried to just tell myself you know you know the first you know 15 years has gone by so quick and um you know i'm trying to enjoy it try to slow everything down now and uh it kind of put it in perspective like hey like just go out there and you know do your thing have fun"
Mike Trout~90 minutes
"we're gonna go into this offseason we're gonna fix it so to the question that i'm not ducking um look what is the rebuild experience i come from the experience world with qualtrics what is the rebuild experience in the mba"
Ryan Smith~65 minutes
Full Transcript
Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode, the ThunderDome. On this WrestleMania Eve feel good Friday April 17th, 2026 this program begins now. Store. Are fantastic and obviously we have NBA play in games tonight to decide two teams that are going to be able to punch their ticket into the playoffs who can potentially chase immortality on this massive weekend will a mellow ball in the Charlotte Hornets who had a absolute thriller over the Miami heat in the first round of the play in game tournament. Take on the Orlando Magic and I'll tell you what don't want to give any spoilers away but on this particular Friday as the past couple Fridays we'll be doing the oh no segment. Nice. That Orlando Magic team is in the segment. Yeah. Nobody's happy with how they're playing but they still have a chance to potentially make the playoffs and then Steph Curry back from injury late in the season alongside Dreymon Green who's pick pocketed and going crazy as if it was like 2015 all over again. Dreymon and Steph Curry going crazy taking on the Phoenix Suns in an Ispia owned team that says he wants it to be like Coach Izzo up there in Michigan State. Devin Booker's an animal obviously they've had a lot of transition a lot of change maybe they make it into the playoffs but Steph Curry in a play in in type situation I like that for him. He is seeing a big hoop right now and he's also talking his shit. We got the shoulder shimmy first game back from injury and then in the last game against the Clippers he hits a game winner. Ah step back round about in the crowd almost rose his ankle could potentially hurt himself. Who knows somebody punched him in there. He's asking the Clippers fans is that going. I did that go in. I could I could kind of hear it. I kind of feel that it went out of the hand it felt good but is that one in or is that not in. That's what this dude is obviously done to basketball and anytime we get a glimpse of what he did to hoops forever and its highest form and he's back. Maybe Golden State goes crazy. Whoa. Now everybody in the West is obviously knows that the Oklahoma City Thunder exists and everybody understands that Joker's still over there in Denver and LeBron James. He's 41. That's right. Yep. And then in the East because the Pacers are not in the playoffs or the play-ins and Detroit is obviously the number one seed waiting on the Hornets potentially if they're able to get a win tonight over Orlando for a rivalry matchup in the first round of the NBA playoffs. But we got to get the Celtics are always. Yeah. We got to remember the Celtics exist. That's right. And then the Knicks they're saying we're winning this year we were built to win this year. I heard people on TV who know this a lot better than I am with sources connected and everything. They're like Knicks are actually built to go on a run right now. It's like the Knicks are going to be back and I forgot last year they made all the way to finals. Fire their coach. Expectations are they got to win it all. NBA playoffs should be spectacular. We'll have Kendrick Perkins joining us in about 20 minutes or 30 minutes or so to chitchat about his opinions on the playoffs the teams and also the awards that he votes for. Yeah. Oh yeah. Need it. People are not happy with him. No they're pissed. It's big perk baby. And that's big perk basketball. Exactly. He don't care. And that really is big perk basketball. He'll go carry on. That's kind of his thing. We're excited to get a chance to catch up with him again. There was a time not too long ago where Perk was going to potentially be in a Thunderdom once a week. That's right. That got shut down before it really even got started. It was incredible. We enjoy big perk. Now some of the things big perk says obviously get a lot of people flustered and we don't necessarily agree with everything he says but we enjoy that hell. And a big perk cannot wait to catch up with him and just asking why I decided to piss everybody off and say hey I got some votes that are up for grabs actually. Yeah. Yeah. I'll tell you what big night to night to win you all NBA. You know little ball. Okay. There's supposed to be three teams of this entire thing. I still that third one. Hey you tell me. I cannot wait to hear Perk talk about why he is voting how he is voting. This is just like in the NFL whenever voters say they did whatever they did for whatever reason. It's like that's boss. I don't want to hear that. I don't want to do that. Anytime humans are doing things though there's always going to be some bias. I like the perk just said it's up for grabs. Have a big night. You could potentially hit all NBA. Go get it. I'll get you 30 40 more million. Exactly. Good luck out there. Okay. Good luck. I appreciate that. Ryan Smith owner of the Utah Jazz not in the play-in or the play-off. They've been played out. Yeah. Big time. Long time ago. They got fine for the way they were potentially playing themselves out. He's owner of the Jazz but let's flip that into a positive sports conversation. Also the owner of the Utah Mammoth in the NHL. Guess what they're in a playoffs. Yes they are. Second year there to the day they announced the team was coming from Phoenix to Utah on this particular day two years ago. Phoenix had 10 years of the worst seasons in the NHL. Worst record in 10 years straight of it. Ticket sales 30th in the last year 29 28 for the last 10 years in ticket sales. They're playing in Arizona stayed for a while. Just every everything about them just ass ticket sales ass performance on ice ass team morale ass investment in team ass everything somehow even though so many ex hockey players out in Phoenix and we love the city of Phoenix. I think a lot of people said it was potential because ownership wasn't able to get a new deal for a new arena because he had pissed off the government potentially but anytime you do that you obviously have to take taxpayer money. I think the taxpayers would like to hockey team whatever it got ugly in Phoenix with the coyotes. Utah Mammoth owner Ryan Ryan Smith of Utah Jazz. We just so happy to be friends with this guy like we just so happen to know him because whenever we went out for college game day for a Utah game BYU Utah I think no maybe it was Utah. I think it was Utah BYU couple years ago. Yeah but it was Utah though wasn't that BYU. Correct. It was at Utah I think it was Utah. So Utah Oregon? I don't know I don't know if it was BYU. USC maybe it wasn't BYU it was not the Holy War. Or yeah maybe whatever the case we went out to Utah incredible the scene's beautiful and we got invited to go to a basketball game and it was long travel out there it was pretty late in the season I was like no I'm gonna go ahead and sleep here I'm a little bit exhausted then it was like hey owner would like you to potentially come to the game I'm like okay where am I sitting in this thing and then you say you're on the bench it's like I'll go fine I'll go be a member of the jazz I guess I'll go do it we all went we had a group they went over there we were next to Dwayne way yeah minority on the other side you guys were next to the way so they like were like hey we'll take care of it we thought there's a once in a lifetime this is outrageous we're doing this and I also looked him up young guy self-made billionaire two times like kind of the next generation seemingly of what sports ownership is going to look like cool guy got a chance to meet him got a chance to be his family talk to him and yeah like he's of our age so we can like talk shit to him but he has certainly done so many things in life already at a young age and I think he's a pretty pure thinker like the way he wants to kind of make things better so whenever he bought the NHL team we were actually I think a part of a conversation with him about like hey what he should expect why he should expect and then he worked that thing for a while a couple like a year I think year and a half two years that he didn't know if it was going to be an expansion team didn't know if he was going to get a team they didn't know what they were going to do relocation of phoenix because of ticket sales because of how ass they were on the ice he ends up being able to buy it I think it was like a pretty like hey 24 hours we need okay we're doing this we just made the decision we're kind of doing this or it's going to do I think it all came together relatively quickly even though it's been worked for a long time Gary Betman uh uh commissioner of the NHL obviously a massive piece of it all and they didn't know the NHL didn't know exactly how it was going to go I think that Ryan Smith was selling it and it's just been a home run yeah yeah new arena new traditions new rivalries the malls that new malls get new facilities like everything is just blown up out there because the people of Utah love sport and they also just like I think they it's something to go I don't want to say do but like oh yeah it is something to go do family it's a it's every night is an event so I I'm happy for Ryan he'll be joining us here in a few moments he uh he's doing it big time he's really doing it talks at tables here at boss at Connor at Ty Schmidt con man uh we're about to hit playoffs here for a while you know we got WrestleMania here tomorrow night and Sunday night on ESPN's platforms tomorrow on ESPN 2 for the first hour Sunday on ESPN for the first hour then the rest through ESPN premium yes I'll make sure you get it yes so that's incredible on the other side of that sports are about to deliver in a huge way draft next week but it's not just that no not at all Super Bowl wrestling of course kicks it off tomorrow and Sunday but we're talking about playoffs every single day probably for the next six weeks I mean it is one of the times you think about after football ends like hey once NBA and NHL playoffs start then sports are really going to kick up again I think we have three or four games Saturday NBA three or four games Saturday and NHL same thing Sunday and then Monday it continues I know there's a couple cities one in particular that has a multiple playoffs going on at the same time you could you could say Boston I'm talking about and some of the scheduling is a little interesting I think some people are pretty pissed at the Celtics and Bruins are going to be playing on the exact same night at the exact same time but that's just the thing that you need to kind of reel in when you're a sports fan hey you come from a city that has greatness oozing from it especially when it comes to this I'm sorry me either honestly but sometimes that's where it goes right we're talking about the Pittsburgh pegwins the pegwins and the pirates I'm sure there's going to be a pegwins game and skeens day going at the same exact time like those are going to be tough tough things to balance but this is one of those very underrated times in sports where even if you're not a huge NBA even if you're not huge NHL you can go on a draft Kings place a bet and all of a sudden you're a fan of that team also there's just always something on last night was weird you're sitting there like what do I do watch Mission Impossible Tom Cruise sure I'll do that yes but it'd be much cooler if there was like meaningful games on even tonight with the playing will be cool but once these playoffs really start to go even the first round especially in the NHL start to finish those are amazing like this is a fantastic sports time yeah in the draft next week absurd so many storylines are about to develop and one half of the hammer died cowboys ap tone rocking incredible uniform yeah just a good uni out of the Pittsburgh Pirates ballclub yeah thank you for sending them to the buckos this is the city connects they will be wearing them tonight Bob a Chandler is on the mound skeens on the mound tomorrow for his bobblehead night buckos gave one away yesterday but they're hot baseball's doing it the draft fully engulfed in the draft fully engulfed best time of the year then we have the playoffs we got mania life is life is great it's feel good friday draft anything crazy happening right now that we need to keep an eye upon not really i mean this is this is what the guys the draft people always say like this is the most dangerous week of all because teams are trying to get messages out there and it's mostly bullshit um you got to keep your head straight on these sources that you have brother especially as the draft spectacular we are just six days away from thursday april 23rd live from Pittsburgh pennsylvania which is the home con of many of us that will be up on that stage and then we'll be trying to provide a little analysis on what's going on on who the player is why the team potentially made the move but also different perspectives as you can see there right next to us that big guy right there is from pittsburgh even though he tries not to claim it yeah that's weird yeah which is odd it is odd because he's one of the most even though it's tattooed on him yeah it's literally on his back yeah like uh like a kitchen tat team they're at the team draft says dumpers y'all one of those yeah extended them yeah yeah give him a uh yeah you get it he'll be there a q shippley conman debuts is going to be breaking it down potential db drama in this particular thing not only that entire defense we appreciate you dairies traveling in Pittsburgh man cannot wait it's a big time it is may draft season is the best it's the one time where all 32 franchises really have kind of like the same level of hope you can draft that next hall of fame or your next starting quarterback your next uh star wide receiver um you know a lot of new new new iterations of teams with new head coaches new gm so i'm excited about the draft sweet for usual sweet shirt sweet shirt yeah really cool shirt yeah it's mainly it's many weekends so you gotta be ready i think he's wwe hall of fame yeah yeah yeah i think he's wwe hall of fame he's a special enforcer yeah yeah that's a sick shirt though yeah thank you yeah there go i mean he refrigerators and i've been working you know i hope everybody you know i was showcasing a little bit while reyney was on yeah i mean i'll come i'm kind of in there okay let's go not just debuts a j will be there coach cower will be joining us obviously he is from pittsburgh pennsylvania peter schrager in tone digs will be in a ball knowers trailer in the back obviously with schrager understanding why gms are making moves or if gms are potentially thinking about making moves in tone digs who's been studying this draft class for the last three months literally daily so he will be able to tell us every single specification about every single athlete that is drafted and how they did in college shrades will break down why the teams were thinking that decision coach cower will tell us how that will fit into the scheme a j hawk will try to be toxic and ty schmitt will not be there once again yeah with this guy i'd love to be there with you guys miss it every single year ty yeah i mean what are you gonna do you know it's just one of those things where had i known scheduling wise that this would be the case every i would have i am kind of disgusted at the fact that we have only kind of grown in this entire business program you show every year every year and you still somehow make the same mistake i know every single you would love the draft spectacular people say that it's uh it's one of our better things that we do and i think the reason why a lot of people say is because we have our own draft guru and mad mel kuiper and i think i know you've ever got to meet him you would love this guy ty and it's a shame don't you think deba yeah absolutely he's the pro of pro he's obviously set the standard when it comes to draft coverage uh one day you guys meet hopefully i hope so he's trying to break bread with the guy we had him on a couple times every once in a while he usually kind of shuts that down right away you know call calls me a barrage of different names and so it's kind of like you know what at this point you know we're just two ships you know passing in the night unfortunately i mean i'd love to be there pissberg with you guys it's just hey it wasn't in the cards this year well in the cards for the utah mammoth is at least a playoff run that has begun in their second year of existence to the day two years ago this man and his family became owners of an nhl franchise since then they've gone all in paying players building facilities setting new standards and now debuting a zamath wide a what yeah they gimmicked up the zamboni it's been there it's been there the whole time the same it's sick it's literally but that type of gimmick has been sitting there the whole time whoo you know what we got a brilliant idea that's zamath they got people standing on top they did the opening hit for the game last night live from zamath they're rolling around like they were tishman at a golden night yeah just kind of rolling around rolling around and their fans were in the back clapping you know i think there definitely was a point where the open took maybe 45 seconds to a minute when you hear that 45 seconds to a minute that's not that long after like 10 seconds to stand up behind somebody doing there is like a okay who we got another 40 seconds here there's a little bit of that on zamath but obviously utah hockey fans understand what to do they're creating new traditions and it's going to be a winning tradition i do believe over there joining us now the owner of the mammoth and the jazz and the ryan smith sports group that sounds right r ssg and owner of qualtrics ladies and gentlemen ryan smith yeah ryan so fellas can i hit it myth entertainment group sg sg oh yeah big say yeah i forgot i knew there was a you know something yeah and we tried to get there we tried to list it all off what i wanted to say mostly was we're incredibly impressed by you how old are you again uh i just turned 47 happy birthday man damn birthday rock happy birthday 47 you've sold your survey company uh two times i do believe you end up becoming the owner of your childhood team the utah jazz you pitched so much for the state of utah in the sports world that you lobby basically gary betman to give you an opportunity to become an owner of an hl team you get a team there you sell out 100 of the tickets there's some photos of some games where maybe the seats aren't filled but those tickets have already been sold because people uh want to come they just couldn't make it that particular evening which isn't great but we're two years into this entire thing and we also made the playoffs so we would just like to do hat tip to you sir happy 47th birthday man what a go ryan you've kind of done it can you tell me about it yeah i mean look i've got a great group um both on the ownership side and you know obviously our organization i mean two years ago you know pretty much to the day walked into a conference room in arizona and and literally told 70 people that they were traded to utah which is kind of a unique thing and um just the hockey culture and the vibe everyone believed and you know we told them to trust us and in sports you know sometimes there's not that much trust it was incredible they trust us the city came in the fans came in received the team and it's just been it's just been a vibe since day one i mean like you can't make it up because there was there was really no data that hockey would do what it's done in utah um you know there wasn't the rings here there wasn't the youth hockey here and it's been pretty much sold out every single night and the playoffs are going to be epic yeah i think and it's actually the next step of this story which is pretty sweet yeah expedited pretty quickly only two years to get to the next step is crazy and there's been a lot of success for teams whenever they make it to playoffs for the first time in the past and let's talk about the success of the team whenever you walk into a conference room in phoenix and say they've been traded to utah you wanted to keep as many people as possible and told them they're going to be okay as our connection's probably unstable there uh maybe uh in utah is it us is it you it's always him it's always him no but it could be us that's it we go a lot yeah it might be like a big cloud rolling over that mountain in his back yard right oh yeah i forgot might i just turn the zamith coming around the mountain when it comes yeah yeah exactly the cloud every time you're on the phone that guy it's always him they're building another zamith so they're probably channeling the energy from the sun and lightning and stuff you know what they somebody didn't get tusks up somebody was like this tusk up and then in the middle of the conversation just kind of was like yeah you know i'm putting my tusks down actually in the yep that's potentially what did big jay perhaps the jay might have put a jay put his tusk down yeah maybe put it put his tusk down maybe pull the plug that he wasn't supposed to try to plug in like a lightbulb joining us ryan smith uh ryan maybe big jay put the tusk down maybe put a hat maybe that's what happened something happened somewhere yeah i think so so you're going down into phoenix though and telling 70 people that they've been traded okay to utah which is a part of sports obviously but that massive is crazy and you genuinely wanting them to feel as if hey i am just lucky to inherit what i am inheriting here and i want you to feel comfortable and giving them every option they possibly can and i don't know what the turnover rate was but for 10 years they had the worst they were the worst in a league okay worse in a league on the ice and then off the ice the point uh the tickets like worse than a league like the off the ice worse than a league investment worse than a league and then they get up to your place and we're in a playoffs in two years we got traditions we got fans we got like a culture everything like that how now obviously you're going to get a lot of credit for that as you absolutely should but why do you think that was why do you think a lot of similar people that were working in phoenix kind of relocate to utah and are able to have success because i think everybody in sports thinks you have to change everything to have success and normally the everything isn't just a location normally it's like the people in what positions how do you why do you think that happened do you think right yeah i mean look it was a little more like gary was pretty adamant when we when we came in that gary betman was like we got to start over it's a new franchise we're going to leave the the kind of the history and the legacy very similar to okc a little bit in um you know seattle and it was it was unique um and we did um you know fortunately you know we we brought in you know chris armstrong to run it with bill armstrong and and and coach bear they've done incredible job we had a bunch of young talent um and we brought in a lot of guys right so and and the most amazing things happened where you know we signed deal and gunther to an eight-year deal logan cooly to an eight-year deal nitch smaltz to a recent eight-year deal we brought in you know sergi and mckinsey weger and jj perturkha um and you know obviously captain keller who's leading us you know we've got people waving their no trade clauses to come to utah we've got six first round picks that are sitting in our system coming up and all of our picks going forward and so we're in a pretty incredible spot that this is going to be an epic run but i think more than anything like you look at what a fan base can do i mean they are fanatical that's what fans are sure for like it has been epic and like i think that's the biggest part is you know us doing our job from an ownership standpoint giving them everything they need management doing their job and building this thing um and being patient but also being aggressive and then the third leg of this is just our community and our fan base giving these people something to come in and play for every night and it's it's amazing yeah i got a chance being that building that facility it's like you're walking in a resort in the cafeteria i mean it was it was great man and then your vision for what you're building and the other businesses that are blooming off of this stuff i feel like you feel a sense of pride in the state of utah just trying to give back to the state of utah but i think you're bringing a lot of shit to utah as well brother yeah i think you should look in a mirror maybe job well done now on that note can i ask you about the team that isn't in the playoffs yeah for sure hey so i read okay i'm not in the weeds on this thing i don't get every memo do you get every memo uh no i don't get every memo either i just read what i see online yeah that's right i heard you got fined okay you how many teams are in the NBA 30 30 30 okay and i'm seeing 25 points for it i'm seeing oh yeah a lot of history a lot of history but i read that you got fined because you're trying to lose okay so that's what i read right yeah that's correct yeah okay so i would like to let you know as a blind jazz believer okay because you're the owner and i've been on the wood before i'm pissed that we're losing games on purpose now you were the only one i think that got this particular thing maybe another team and in the history of basketball the fact that you too thought of doing this okay is disgusting and i would like you to apologize for creating something that might happen in the future now okay and that goes back to you being fined alongside the pacer sir so oh you want to come here how much time do we got plenty i would like to know how do you feel about this situation so whenever you think about the situation how do you because i assume you have to answer this question a lot especially probably with your own fans with that's what the headline is i mean i assume this is something that you are but with what you're doing with the mammoth clearly you're not a person that's trying to lose for the city or state of utah and salt lake and everything that's going on up there so like it's an interesting little dilemma that's literally happening in the same city with the same ownership and on this side saying hey this guy not good for the league but on this side hey this guy might be so but we're running in the same fashion it's the same wallet right yes um it let's back up because i think all of this is a downstream issue to something else so first of all the mba products freaking amazing look at the plan i don't know if you guys have been watching the playing games it's insane oh yeah um and and there's a lot working what i love about the mba we're not afraid to battle it out with each other in these groups adam's grade at a culture where we sit there there's input from everyone there's no shortage of ideas of how to fix this um what goes on the challenge is you know every action we take whether it's a cba or something else has an equal opposite reaction and i think what we're seeing on this part is an opposite reaction to some actions that we're taking before um but what i love about the league is we fix it and so i think we're going to go into this offseason we're going to fix it so to the question that i'm not ducking um look what is the rebuild experience i come from the experience world with qualtrics what is the rebuild experience in the mba okay we're going to have 30 teams we now have two more that are looking online great markets you're going to have eight to ten teams every year that are going to have to pull into the pit put new gas in the car and change out the tires it's just the math how long do we want them in there for we want them in there for four years do we want them in there for five years and one of their options to go get out of that pit number one they can go sign free agents well there's no free agency there's not one all mba free agent right now okay so that leg of the stool's kind of gone second your trade your trade team trading's hard you know we've done that in utah we tried a bunch we were successful at the deadline with a you know that we're so excited about and jaren jackson jr that came in um we gave up a lot and we're super excited about that the third is the draft and so if you're a rebuilding team and you're saying hey how do i get out of this it's put a lot of pressure on that draft and then you come in you've got a world-class draft like you have this year with arguably some marquee players and you're also you know i came in new to the league this is my you know four and a half fifth year how it is we started out when i took over we were number one in the league in the regular season whatever we've got to pull that car into the pit for whatever reason and then we're here and we go into this draft process i'm also taking over a franchise never won the lottery never moved up in the draft you know at some point the mask got to start mathing like like how do you how do you do that in the odds and you're seeing that from a bunch of team so we're going to figure out a solution i trust adam all right the ownership group's incredible around the league we're not afraid to battle it out um there's options about flattening it there's options about putting restrictions in there but the most important thing is what is the rebuild experience for the mba and how long do we want these teams to come in and i think the difference this year that's probably kind of startling everyone as fan bases are actually on board for maybe the first time i've seen in history of hey you've got 10 teams we want our teams to be down in a level now when you when you go out in the court i don't care who you are like our players are playing to win this is their livelihood this is their contract you saw that with us you know we didn't finish with the worst record we know we were fourth or fifth like our guys want to win every single night they want big contracts this is our opportunity and so that's a that's a that's a long answer but i think it comes in that order where if you look at everything being categorized as tanking it's not the way to look at it's there's a rebuilding process for eight to ten teams every year that are going to have to go through that and so that's the process that we should be looking at and the lottery in the draft is kind of a downstream effect of that and so i hope you win the lottery man yeah i hope you win the lottery because that literally sounds like what it is you know because what last year the mavs no the the mavs won it and they had like the lowest oh whatever percent chance that's the lottery but that's water i guess that is no it's called a lot of it's called a lottery for a reason i mean it's you know it's vegas what did you end up at what did you end up at last year fourth seventh we we had the best odds we ended up fifth i think my first year we had seventh odds we ended up ninth and then we were stayed the same one year so like let's be honest like it it hasn't i mean luck determines a franchise is also like i mean that's the way it is that's a part of this but there's a lot of pressure on that and you know i'm just glad to be out of that position moving forward and we're on and we're building but we'll see buddy we'll see we don't know about that but i do appreciate your take where it's uh like hey as an owner and as everybody that works here how are we supposed to get good how are we supposed to get good if we're not good at this moment and it's a very player uh kind of run league you talked about there's no all MBA free agents they get traded and then do new deals right and then it's kind of just like uh whoever wherever they're deciding to get traded to which a lot of the guys at the top who are running programs can hey i won't go there i'm out of here we've seen in the past not everybody can do that obviously be who you can afford to be but franchise changing guys can do that that is why they're franchise changing guys and what your argument is i think like that guy's never going to be available for me to like even woo him over like hey come look at the mountain up here dude this place is awesome look i i don't think that way like okay i believe i believe we're gonna win a championship here in utah i'm looking at chiante and lauri and ace bailey and jaren jackson jr. walker kessler and all of our picks going forward like there's no woe is me here at all like we're we're gonna go do it i mean i got danie ang will hardy austin ang like i feel like we got the best group that that i've seen i am so freaking bullish on the mba and i'm bullish on um where we are as utah going forward both of these organizations that i get the blessing to be a part of we're gonna have one hell of a run like it is going to be a good time to be a utah sports fan i know i know i just heard a little boston love or too many teams but that's going to be our world for a long time and so i'm excited about that but also coming out of the place we've been for the last four years i'm empathetic that somehow we've got to get those teams at the bottom getting the guys and getting back out onto the track yeah i appreciate your thoughts i like that you're in the rooms where these are happening as well i appreciate you forward thinking for sports and uh trailblazing for us young guys trying to get into the sports world you're crushing it man congratulations you guys too appreciate you all i like that a lot of look what you started look what you started fellas look what you started it's gonna happen it's on our big screen where that's real that all happened here yeah or where those ai generated with the uh the booze in them no those are real mammoth tusks and then they made them you got booze tusks out there this is awesome in the mugs is this the what tusk mug i see lea ice oh my gosh beer stays colder in there i can get one of those right what are the you guys are giving us that sense of we'll send them they'll be there those ice cold or can i put those in the freezer 50 and ice cold tusk mug are you putting diet cooks in there right is ice cold diet cooks of course the tusk tea equal opportunity whatever you want to put in see that's why i love you guys man ladies and gentlemen Ryan Smith yeah his bartender knows jack and dad please sir thank you so much right that's cold tusk i would like yeah please ryan needs to turn all of his shoes the same direction and maybe he'll win the lottery because he'll drive me insane the entire time yep top row yeah yeah that was an interesting little situation also i was looking a lot of basketball stuff we need to get sticking yeah right needed sticking there definitely went in the lottery also there was only one hat on the entire wall very distracting behind him for me personally there's just so many awesome shoes so many but them going the wrong way and then only one hat on the entire wall was weird there was one spot that didn't have anything on it like five shoes point yeah it was come on guys this is what he said i think somebody did that to him i hope that's him i think you didn't know that until right now bro he probably saw while he's in there because i think he's pretty attention detail i would hope so yeah i think that's his business i believe bro at least 50 percent of it it is actually his business yeah attention to detail that's why that xameth comes rolling out on that ice how many people in that thing i'm telling you was like 10 people i saw it in the open i mean mammoth are big yeah like zam bony sizes i think unless they're making stretch bones those bony's are bigger than next time we talk about you can you can show a couple we need to go man i would know yeah i mean we need to get mammoth bigger than the bison outside of their facility everybody take a look foxy said look at his camera guy oh don he's in front of the xameth go back hold oh no go back a little bit what kind of Foxy yeah you kept it rolling in front of a xameth sir oh no is he okay can we get can we get a little bit of an update on the guy that rolled in front of the xameth on the ground this is a scary situation one more oh no that's xameth's look at me it's a classic trip over the blue line seen at a thousand times i just got cement in his boots i just looked up unfortunately he passed yeah he got trampled by the mammoth yeah the xameth all right that's not true that's not true come on you can't do that either people that did not happen we think he's okay that's a scary situation yeah ladies and gentlemen joining us now is a man who is uh at one point gonna be on our show every single week and i was pumped up about yeah because we'd seen him on tv carry on we've seen him play carry on we see him on socials he is active not scared at all of anything nope he'll go right in remember he's super duper racist at one point that's where everybody was saying that's right that's the law he was the most racist guy on earth is what people were saying hated yorkage yeah hated yorkage now this guy doesn't deserve a vote because he's saying publicly how he's deciding who his votes are this dude is not scared of shit and i think that's why we love him so much ladies and gentlemen NBA champ for the Celtics 16 year NBA vet now ESPN pundit and live from los vegas the homo or s-o many others weekend and maybe we'll see him and now he's looking good uh-huh kandrick perkins what up park hey there they go i miss y'all man i miss y'all hey look pat it was one thing i am scared of though i'm scared of these big swole people walking through here i tell you that much you see randy orton randy orton walked through there have you seen him he's the one wait till you see him you'll feel that you'll feel that dan house and yeah dan house and to the guy with the paint on his face stay away from him yinz need to stop fucking with him he was he you need to stay away from that seriously that is uh that is not something you want to kind of dance with i think this exact point now on that note park can you feel the energy of wrestle mania around town or if you only got in late night last night so i got in late late last night and when i was walking through the airport i'm like oh damn this is like the super bowl this super bowl type energy this is my first time ever like being in the atmosphere of wrestle mania and i'm feeling it i'm like oh this is it this is this is this is what it is like the energy it's yeah it's popping in vegas yeah a lot of like a lot of like-minded individuals over there and i'll tell you for some people in times of my past wrestle mania week is like one of the most positive awesome times typically on earth you just kind of like suspend all belief of it just go you know and enjoy the hell out of it and everybody is on the same page there now it's a little bit different though now i see all those buffoons walking around and they have no idea that i'm the hero coming in alongside randy orton so there's gonna be a little heat between me and every citizen in that city that is going to wrestle mania i'd like to say to hell with you all you scumbags now on that note wrestle mania is awesome i'm happy you're getting a chance to experience it uh i can't wait to see you out there let's do a little bit of nba chatter here and you pissing everybody off so you came out and said lamello ball could certainly earn an all mba team vote from me if he does what he does tonight with the plan do you think that is you being transparent with your vote and why do you think some people got so upset with that do you think it's because they say well if i had a vote i wouldn't do it just on one night outcome i did on the whole year and how is kind of your thoughts on all of the reaction well first of all you know how i live pat i'm fax over feelings okay i'm fax over feelings the the point is hadn't been relevant since the month of never wear all i'm saying is he has the numbers he has the damn numbers if he gets his team into the post season they are the biggest surprise in the nba you telling me that don't deserve a third team all nba nod you damn right it do i agree park hey i agree park and i like the fact that you're starting it up a bit and they've mattered since never wear it is that what you said way back in never wear it but what i'm saying no what i'm saying pat is this think about it like that's weighted out like we all nba performances one thing we go look at is the individual numbers and the team success right and so when i'm i'm looking at i'm like if he gets his squad into the post season why not i just i was putting them on the first team or the second team i said he's going to get my north for third team all nba who cares yeah i like and also i enjoyed watching his team now the bam out of bayou trip i mean it's been hit a thousand times now we're already on friday i assume everybody's saying it can't happen the nba finds him obviously it sucks for the heat that they lose their best player in the second quarter especially in a season in which he scored 83 points in the game you'd like to see him maybe get a little playoff pay off but nonetheless that hornets team i love him and i'm hearing that if they win they got the pistons pistons hate them is this hornets team maybe the next group of menaces that maybe we can fall in love with nationally and how do you think we got to this point with them and it's not fake is real see if you you take the pacers they'll make sure of the pacers and the celtics charlie don't get enough credit for what he's done with this team if you look at them they're number two in the nba and three point field goal attempts and they're number one in the league and uh made threes right so they're going to your boston celtics joe mazula type system and then all of a sudden you look at the pace that they play with and the way that lamello ball dominates the ball and make others around him better you're looking at a similar version of tyrese hella bird right like the playmaking mixture with the amount of threes and if you need an isolation player to go on the low block you have your miles bridges who you could call your pascal siac charlie put this together put a formula together with the personnel with car can nipple been added by the way who's going to get my vote for uh rukia the year i bet you the same people won't call me races about that i do love that whenever you thought about who you're going to vote for cooper flagger concanipple you're like well put the pickle there they're going to have to really really search here on this particular one but on that note i like that you're going with con because of the threes cooper flag obviously won absolutely harm but the team was shite so you said you like players and teams kind of coming together for your vote because obviously team sport this entire thing you talk about charlie being built like the pacers in the east the pacers in the east have had a problem with the team go ahead con man yeah and they are kind of built like the selts because they shoot a lot of threes but they don't play a lick of defense which the boston selts do uh perk what do you think about the selts it's been kind of a crazy year obviously expectations were low then they come in still end up winning 50 plus games tatum comes back still looks fantastic i saw you didn't vote for mazula for coach of the year but also you know that's another thing that people are just going to get pissed about no matter what myself included you son of a bit but with that being said what do you think about the uh selts in this playoffs and do you think they're the favorites in the east even though they're the two seed as they go into the sixers with the fans who are chan we want boston i have the selts coming out of these they should be the favorites i mean think about it they have the best duo in the eastern conference in tatum and jaylen brown they have the most championship experience out of everybody in the eastern conference when you look at their core guys and what they've been when you look at sam hauser their white patent pritchard alongside jaylen brown and jason tatum and then they play both ends of the of the floor and the most important thing is that jason tatum has come back and accepted his role for this year as the robin to jb as the batman like they don't need jason tatum to go out there and average 25 or 30 and i know he's bought in is because he's doing the other things that's that's that's adding up in the box scores he's had he's had uh 10 plus games of having a double double he's been a monster on the glass he's been dropping dives there's a few games where you look up he has seven or eight assists so he's playing his role to the team because all the whole speculation was is jt gonna be able to fit or he or is he gonna get in the way no they have real structure and they are the favorites in my opinion to come out of the eastern car hey real structure that that's good coaching great that's i'm gonna say that's good coaching you know without tatum for a long time i see what you did delpett how come no jomizula yeah but listen jomizula is a hell of a coach i'm not knocking listen he should be in the conversation and i'm not knocking anybody that voted for jomizula for coach of the year it's so many coaches that are deserving i just went with miss johnson right to have a young san Antonio team by and play a gender-free basketball 60 win season in the tub western conference he got my nod but it's your preference you know i mean it's just some people like to drink him some people like to drink sorat some people like to drink tequila and then to the day they all gonna get you drunk hey man yeah i agree hey i i agree completely that's not that's not a bad comparison actually and because you have the vote it is your descriptor what would you go with there would you go with the hen would you go with the vodka would you go with tequila uh what would your go to be kendrick because we know he was your choice down in san Antonio over mazula what would your be your choice at the bar well if i was at a boy in san Antonio you'd downright i'm drinking them but tequila so i've got to say tequila okay let's say you're where you are there vegas yep in vegas yeah would you say pat yeah vegas yeah i'm tequila in vegas too if i get on the plane and leave the night yeah okay so let's say your steakhouse somewhere uh have it are you eating steak is that a thing you're doing right now you look good by the way we don't know what diet or what you're doing but you look good so i am i'm eating all protein vegetables and fruit i'm standing away from the carbs and yes i i do eat steak but if i'm at a steakhouse i'm gonna give me a glass of red wine you know i mean i'm i'm gonna give you a glass of red wine yeah you're you gotta you gotta ask the diddy when you go to certain places you know i mean yeah if i do get something i'm gonna get something on the rocks with the big cube yeah you know i mean i'm gonna get you the fish is sitting in the glass yeah you look so you look like you're somebody yeah kids you know with the you order an old-fashioned people think like you're more sophisticated no no jack and diet so much better but in old-fashioned with uh some really good bourbon that has a history that i heard in its entirety remember that foxy oh yeah it's very good we're at a super yupp event yuppie yuppie yuppiest event of all time where they had these old-fashioned with a little block square in there i mean it was delightful did one of these oh yeah people don't don't want to these things perk it just make you feel important you know i'm saying just make you feel big time you had a big cube in the middle some of the body yeah it does that i'll say especially when it rattles a little bit yeah yeah you know everybody's got those little fish i got the fucking big one you know i'm saying sonic got the little crumbled ice that's right that's right that's fun that's fun that's fun that's really good good for whatever got the little shredded ice in the refrigerator perfect got the little cubes of ice look at the block motherfucker this is the time you see it's got the restaurant's logo on there somewhere or something like that thought ahead way ahead because you get the rubber square thing exactly it's got to fill it up with a lot of water does anyone do the shredded ice in the in the refrigerator yeah hi i'm not a straighter i don't know i've never met anyone who i want really cold water in 10 seconds you know that's like that give me the cube that's like the mitch headberg joke about a guy came up to him and asked him if you wanted a frozen banana and he said no but i want a regular banana in like five minutes and that's what i just thought about the shredded stuff let's move back to basketball perk i like that you do a little red wine a little tequila from the don san Antonio are you whiskey yeah i guess you said you use the block if you had to let's go to the west coast shall we obviously the western conference has a lot of storylines go ahead deep yeah big purr you got the Celtics coming out of the east you get to that west side obviously the okc thunder defending champs you got spurs winbiel's expectation of the winning championship now and going forward and then a different nuggies you can never count out joker don't think the lakers or the rockets have enough but um who you got coming out of the west going into the playoffs so look i it's hard because i know my attachment to the oklahoma city thunder but i again i gotta keep it real i'm going with the san Antonio spurs i mean listen what wimby has done it's not a game plan that a coach could draw up to stop this man off his and what we witnessed throughout the course of this season from wimby is broke at the start of the season you know he was in this jamal crawford bag a little bit too much shooting up a lot of threes bringing a ball up the floor make about the highlights more so than about dominate and as the season went on he found that balance and he actually embraced being a pick man and he became the most dominated player in the league in my opinion because he was dominating in the paint he was like well why do i gotta continue to bring up the rock when i could just run dead into a screen and roll roll to the basket and just wait on the lob and to finish at the rim and when you think about what people are saying well they lack experience well the air fox went toe to toe with steve curry about two three years ago in the seven game series when he was in sacramento steve on calc has been a fucking winner his entire life even at uconn it's one of the best two-way players in the game and i just think what they have they put position themselves they have a lot they have the most home they have a lot of home games on their home floor up into the western conference so they have home court advantage up into the conference finals where they possibly could most likely meet up with oklahoma city thunder and you heard when we said we dominated them all season long now so yeah i got a quick follow for wimby like him playing a little less than 30 minutes a game and then going into the playoffs where you expect these superstars to be on the court dominate especially down the stretch and throughout the entirety of the game is there any concern for you for him stepping up and kind of having to carry that load on the biggest stage with a high pressure moment well i think he wanted to be honest and you got to give a lot of credit to to miss johnson and the san Antonio spurs for keeping his minutes under 30 and he's still having this type of production in nbp caliber season and so now you go into the postseason number one he's healthy right and number two he's mean as hell that motherfucker is mean he won all the smoke man he do he really won all the smoke so when we talk about like being on a big stage like wimby has played on big stages wimby was just in olympics you know cairn uh france on his back right didn't put out by team usa so he's not afraid of the moment he didn't show us that plenty of time whether that was christmas day game a christmas day game where he walked into madison square gordon a year ago and gave him that work whether it was the all-star game where he set the tone and made guys compete at a high level and made the you know the american players up their game he's he's ready for this moment okay he's ready for the he told me a little bit of more about him being an asshole so i know he went with the monks there for a while and i know he plays chess with random people i know he's out and about he also hung out with k g right is that real i assume you would know more about that meeting than i would did that shape him did or is that two like-minded individuals like how did that kind of come together i think that's a brilliant idea for a young guy to go meet with him yeah of all people and don't don't y'all just love it though don't y'all love it when up and coming young stars and superstars embrace the all-time greats like we saw wimby with jamal crawford we saw wimby with k g and the first thing i saw the first thing i said when i saw that he went like worked out with those guys i told my sons at at home i said see the workout was the first part of the second part was the hour and a half to two hour conversation once you just sitting on the side after you kicked your shoes off and they bopping and having conversation that's when you soak up the real knowledge on how to be a great and and look the stuff that's not shown that we don't see across social media i'm pretty sure he's getting advice from tim ducking as well so he's he's open to it he's with the he's so refreshing he's what the game has been missing the league adam silva loves this i love this the way that he set the tone the way that he embraces i want to participate in the dunk contest i'm like hell yeah wimby i want to win the mvp i should win the mvp i'm like you damn right that's who you want to hear he gave a uh three point presentation on why he should win the mvp and uh all roads led back to defense the right 50 of the game right are we are we talking about that at all i guess he's the one huh on the defensive side that the everybody is scared of uh big park yeah he's he's getting my vote for defensive player of the year and it's not just the three blocks you hear so like they have a wreck they have a track record like teams don't even drive the basketball on the senate's on your spurs like they don't know where he's at like they keep people he's always lurking just all real just we just haven't seen nothing like this before like we thought the word generation of talent around that generational talent we throw that out there a lot but this is the real true definitional one well i'm pumped that we're a part of it hey wimby thank you mercy bo kud hey man mercy bo kud let's talk about some other generational conversations go ahead tibet yeah perk sounds like it won't really matter because they're probably not going to go to the nba finals but you also pissed off a lot of people when you said that if lebron is able to beat the rockets in the first round of the playoffs say the the goat conversations over oh yeah i forgot you said the forgiving in the middle so much and anytime lebron gets brought up or the goat conversation gets brought up you're gonna piss people off but regardless of that how do you see that series going between the lakers and the rockets uh i think it's going i think it's going seven games i'm leaning more towards the houston rockets but make no mistake about it lebron james is coming into this and he's about that action he want that smoke like he's ready to lead this team even without luke and also reason try to pull a upset but i'm just like let's keep it real y'all at 41 years old 23rd year in the nba we're talking about a guy that's going against a team that's that's loaded with talent kevin durant top 20 top 15 greatest player of all time you have those young and upcoming stars over there shagoon and arman thompson and if lebron could carry this lake of team and beat them in this seven games yeah it matters to me it matters to me and i want to hear a damn thing about the goat conversation because no no other player was doing this carrying the team or playing at this level at the age of 41 all right park will you join us for the rest of the playoffs or no hey man my phone always on that's the crazy one don't put it on me uh every time when you know when y'all die when y'all tell me to come on i'm available you know i mean y'all the ones that kick me to the curb oh that is not the game but we are thankful you're back we're thankful you're back we'll talk to you soon man enjoy vegas out there i appreciate it hey uh congrats to the boy too right we're hooping class of what 2030 yeah 2030 but you know i'm trying to keep them on you know i'm saying pat you got work to do they made you ain't did nothing yet yeah yeah i like that uh-huh and on that note kengston you're doing great bro good luck i'll guess him up a little bit i guess have to that's good that i could do that kids with like my daughter boy on the way later in life i'm gonna have to be the one you know yeah hey come on just saying nothing and then somebody else will be like we'll have to be like hey you're fucking killing you're doing it right you are doing it that is the difference i think between like uh professional athlete parents you know because like uh long road okay it's gonna be a long road so there's little beginning achievements i'm fascinated because i'm watching mckenzie like kick a ball for the first time and i'm like so pumped up for her like yes and i'm like well if i'm over celebrating just her kicking the ball is that gonna stun her from wanting to do other stuff so every time i just get jacked up for her and i'm like i do wonder how i'm gonna handle it because i've seen the parent thing before where if she gets in a basketball and she's i'm swat she's scoring zero points until you can score a point got it exactly why do you feel a thousand times better when you actually do as that kid you know well i'd be able to do that too my i do wonder i think i'm gonna have to i think for the goodest society i think i'm gonna have mckenzie maybe the son yeah i think you're i think you'll be able to do it for that little boy he's gonna have a little problem yeah exactly little boy yeah i can't wait for that that's fun stuff man watching swagger's kid yeah go through this entire thing the boozers like it's cool watching cam boozer we don't witness that uh eighth grade ninth grade oh rondo rondo's boy yeah we're watching him like 13 or whatever the case is it's been fun to watch now i feel old i mean the manics even watching them arch coming through yeah yeah and then yeah paton's boy margell yeah he's the prince of promise he was eight years old last time i saw him and now he's i don't want to give away too much i don't want to give away too much info and act like i know he's he's addicted to ball yeah i don't doubt he's gunner rivers he is in on exactly this boy yeah it feels like we're a good spot we're back on the other side hey sports fans the espn app has all of espn all in one place the espn app is your home to thousands of live events espn shows and originals across every espn network and service and now you can check if you already have espn unlimited as part of your tv package for no additional calls visit activate.espn.com to learn how to access your account or sign up then start streaming in the espn app it's all of espn all in one place sign up or activate now it's the middle of the night in a small town on the jersey shore someone reports an abandoned car on a bridge a search gets underway for the missing driver 19 year old sarah stern is it a missing person is it a suicide at this point nobody knows old friendships buried cash and a sinister plot that was once pitched as a movie plays out in real life i'm juju chang from 2020 and abc audio listen now to bridge of lies wherever you get your podcasts sports are the absolute best we're so incredibly lucky that we get a chance to chat about them every single day thank you for allowing us to do this the fact that you watch we don't understand but we do appreciate this weekend wrestle man it's a big one huge this is a once in a century maybe once in a multi-century event where a man will be attempting to save an entire industry an industry that is needed for society for my baby girl boy on the way for the gentlemen here's children and for future children the business needs to be around because it's good for society the business with the direction in which it's headed can't happen the man that i am standing behind on this graphic is the man who is going to save the business and become 15 time world champion on saturday night and when that got look at the just look at the graphic just look at the graphic okay obviously i do look cool up there yeah no doubt about it okay i do look pretty cool up there i appreciate the fact that you know the sunglasses are on because you know trying not to distract you know i'm laser focused right now and also did these wrestling marks deserve to see the color of my eyes that the no no never but randy randy puts off such a bright light that would burn your eyeballs boom the star is shining so bright whenever you're around randy that's what it's supposed to look like over there 65275 okay has he ever left wwe no what did he think about is he a part of a wrestling royal family yes did they ever talk about his family even though he's third generation and he's currently a 14 time world champion only behind sena 17 flair 16 now you've got randy orton third generation superstar professional wrestler going for 15 is that the greatest of all time when he looks like that uh yeah and when he's at the top everybody look and be like oh that's what we make sense that is what it's supposed to look like kody broke into our shit i don't know kody if you've seen by the way kody i don't know if you see we've replaced after your little vandalism damaging a property felony level six yeah stunt alongside dumb ass the bone in here just let you walk in and destroy everything we had we got one here we got one out there we got one over the air we took care of it don't you worry hey you you're a little child yeah you are a little child you walk in here throw your little temper tantrum bigger and better just like randy oh and the business well said after randy wins on saturday roman punk on sunday also brock oba on espn on sunday gonna want to watch that one it's gonna be a spectacular weekend of saving the business and enjoying the hell out of what professional wrestling can be and starts a smackdown that's right i cannot wait for that this hour we have a huge surprise happening that does involve wrestle mania sure how that's the only tease we're given it's gonna be awesome the talks of tables here at boston connor and at thai schmidt one half of the hammer cowboys ap tunnels here nine-year nfl vet superbrain on the road to wrestle mania derri shea ballers yeah debauch debauch it's a special time to be alive right now it feels like doesn't it absolutely you know because the mba playoffs playing games tonight two teams will decide their fate on whether or not they get into the dance or not will the charlotte hornets be able to beat paulo bantero who has been in the absolute uh fire on the internet down there in orlando magic fan hood and then steve curry dreamong green playing meaningful basketball tonight 10 p.m eastern right after smackdown and then you got the phoenix suns devin booker prime time on prime the play in championship tonight i'm actually excited for what the mba is doing actually i'm actually very excited about what the nhl is doing the field has been set for the nhl playoffs if you watch the nhl you know what the playoffs are if you don't watch the nhl you can never understand what the nhl playoffs are until you watch it we would recommend this year is a good time to get in there you got goats across the barn he got some things happening that are a little bit different than years past feels very fresh coming off the olympics both the women and men kind of captivated the world with hockey especially when we beat canada's ass in both of the gold medal games but the sport itself in the playoffs beautiful what you saw in the morning when you're watching the u.s men's team beat canada just a couple days after the women beat canada what you saw then high flying high physicality the talent outrageous goalie standing on her head that's what you're about to witness for the next couple months here cannot wait to start that this weekend as well and it's not just obviously mba and nhl playoffs baseball is absolutely crushing it yep crushing joining us now live from in attic in ohio he's a man who's a college football national champion superbowl champion rhoda cup winner a j ha hawker beautiful time to be a sports fan brother yeah absolutely beautiful time what a tease right there that you said there will be a surprise sometime this hour i don't i mean i'm i'm on pins and needles as they say oh so what what does that mean like you're just kind of up and like you're like i get anxious i'm anxious i'm awaiting i'm like christmas morning like i want to go downstairs and open my presents so is it like there's pins and needles on a seat you've been forced to sit in there so you're kind of like up off of it yeah on the floor yeah you know on your tip that's what it means i guess you're kind of on a crush because it would hurt yeah so you're kind of up a little bit on the tip of the pins and needles exactly so you're kind of like this is kind of easier you're in where do you find yourself then we do that the edge of your seat that's right okay so that that's the edge of your seat so uh that's what you're saying you're feeling right now exactly yes you uh way to demonstrate exactly how i think i just wanted to know how you felt because you know we're kind of a part of this whole thing so you i would like to know how people are feeling of course in a moment because i'll tell you what's about to happen i don't think it's ever happened before i don't think it's ever happened before and i am uh pretty excited speaking of being pretty excited an american sport icon is back did he disappear from society not necessarily did he move to an abandoned world where we didn't hear from not really but at the last couple years he's been in the conversation no is he now yeah is he raking yeah is he doing the baseball in the biggest way he's done his career at this stage wait do we have a chapter that's about to begin and maybe the best big fly bananas from the big jersey boy named my trout how you doing brother doing good how you guys doing dude not as good as you thank you for joining us you've got to feel great right now i know we've been in contact over the last couple years obviously as injuries and other things have kind of taken place the beginning of this season has it felt special for you is there a reason you think that you're back to doing exactly what you've done for a long time in our world like how do you kind of view this season versus maybe a couple years um definitely uh health wise is a big uh big thing um you know anytime you bang up your lower half your knees uh it's tough to to get back to peak um but uh you know coming into spring this year i tried to just tell myself you know you know the first you know 15 years has gone by so quick and um you know i'm trying to enjoy it try to slow everything down now and uh it kind of put it in perspective like hey like just go out there and you know do your thing have fun don't worry about any of this just take care of your body come in and play your game and uh it all started when zook called me in the all season was like look i got the job i'm the manager where do you want to play and he was like oh i was like i want to go back to center and he was like well you're the center fielder and i think that from from that day on it was like all right well i'm going to do my best work my hardest to get back into you know that might try for him and it's been so fun you know the first you know three four weeks of the season uh just the guys obviously you know what i was doing the last uh you know a couple days in new york was was uh unbelievable and uh it was fun just to go back and forth with judgy and just both teams you know we lost a couple close ones which we should have won uh but uh it was fun baseball and uh it was good for the game i don't know how many combined eight or nine nine nine combined home runs between you and judge five home runs in a four game series for you felt like the ball was maybe a little bit bigger in this particular game but not just this series also the entire season and we obviously have followed the immortal at a mortal trailer thing because of matthew stafford stafford had a back issue which is obviously for an older athlete especially a quarterback one where there's a lot of torque a terrible injury i mean that could be a very bad thing you don't know when it's going to leave you don't know when it's going to pop up you don't know how long it's going to stay and there were some deadlines that were missed in training camp and all of a sudden this trailer shows up at los angeles rams training camp it's a little uh streamline type thing and they're like this is a mortal mat stafford wins the MVP okay so so there was there was and i don't think you missed a single throw i have heard that you potentially in this as well do you think this is a massive piece of why your body feels the way and after you're told that you're going to be center fielder or you're going to play center field you got to get back into shape and everything like that into the best shape of your life do you is there anything else we need to know that can maybe make me a healthier person i'm not doing a jay used to drink is urine yep okay a jay used to drink is urine yeah there's there's people that bathe in it i think i've heard you baseball people do the callous urine yep yeah they're doing this a more can you tell me a little bit about getting into the best shape after having injuries or being you know in an unlucky string of injuries with a mortal and anything else drump yeah no i think uh you know my playing weight was around like 238 240 uh when i first came up or not when i first came up but like you know the last few years and i told myself you know if uh you know take some stress off my legs i'm just gonna lose a little bit of little weight and uh you know i got down to like 230 230 and it kind of felt too light so uh kind of i'm fluctuating between like 233 235 and it's been it's been good um the immortal uh is you know people ask me all the time what like what is it and you know how is it helping you um you know i do it every day when i'm at when we're at home we got one at the the stadium and uh it's uh something um you know it's it's hard to explain unless you you're actually in it there's you know 10 different settings of like recovery energize release uh bunch of modalities red light magna wave um pausing it's it's uh it's incredible um you know and it's it's a good it's a good uh i do it for about 30 minutes a day uh where it's like a good reset you're not thinking about anything you're you're off your phone um it's like a good like a reset and uh it's good for your body and some days i do it every day before the game and then if if i uh i have a long one i need a little recovery after post game i'll get a little recovery post game but um yeah it's it's it's definitely we need one definitely been helping me and uh you know it's just taking care of my body you know i think uh you know when when you come up early you know as a young young player you're you're like you know you play a game and you're like oh my body feels great but you know once you hit 30 i mean you guys know it's like yes 30 and it's like it's like you wake up and like man i why is this muscle sore today so uh just coming in um getting with the training staff the uh strength guys and just keeping on the same uh staying on a strict program every single day and sticking to it um you know no no days off so it's it's been a great you know few weeks to start and uh you know i feel great 15 years in is crazy that you're still going and obviously you're feeling the way that you're feeling what do they do back in a day who's that guy played till he's 49 the NFL uh George playing though he had what that's a smoke-cloth cigarette yeah i just drunk the whole time yeah honestly yeah i don't know i genuinely hammered legit what did they do back in the i have no idea how they survived and with so much i guess yeah just nicotine just rolling through i don't know what it used to be but it's it's crazy because it's like the schedule like right now we're on 13 we're 13 straight and we played uh three and since he played four in new york we got in last night uh lax around midnight and now we play the Padres tonight it's uh it's wow it's it's uh like people i mean the the the m o v schedule is just uh just crazy you know flying from east coast to west coast and playing the next day it's uh new york to la that's a short flight too yeah yeah real short real short especially being on east coast time for you know week and a half so it's uh yeah hang on hey deal with it okay they did it back in the day that's the mba conversation is happening as well i don't know how they used to it last question for me for the amortel here okay because it sounds like it's like a dyspantry as well you want to feel refreshed you want to reset you want to be happy do you want to laugh you want to be hungry do you want to be smart i like that all that's happening you're going in there for 30 minutes at a time and everything like it's but is everybody getting in there now is this just like becoming common yeah so yeah so we have a uh like a qr code with a scheduling and a scout you go in there scan it um you know and you can pick your times yeah but it's been filled up everybody's been using it and uh there's it's uh it's pretty pretty popular in angels clubhouse right now yeah it makes you see a baseball as a beach ball so i think you keep your ass in there go ahead a j yeah mic i'm just curious does the game get easier the longer you go like we come from the football world now i say like the game slows down as you get older is that happening in baseball where you see all you've seen a lot of the pitchers you've had thousands and thousands of reps i don't know does it get easier as you get older i mean when you're physically okay to do it um you know that's a that's an interesting question because when i when i first came up you know guys were you know you would see average fastball and i'm like you know 89 91 and then seems like everybody i'm facing right now it's going 100 with 94 mile an hour sliders and 90 mile an hour changeups and splities and just you know limbs flying everywhere at you i think the game and the and the players are getting so much more advanced it definitely gets harder um you know just you got more technology you got more people and you got more eyes and ears on on guys especially at a younger age to get to a way more advanced to what it was you know a few years ago when i came up when i came up so um it's definitely a challenge each and every day uh but the as a hitting standpoint you know guys are just i mean like friends we're playing the Padres tonight and you got mason miller throwing 104 as a closer you know so it's hey where's he from what's that where's mason miller from trout no idea pittsburgh you know that you know that his numbers right now are crazy it's a oh sure 23 and 28 okay so tell me about it so tell me about him a little bit let's go into the mind obviously here and when do you play them you play them now yeah we're in a three game series so i don't want to give you my whole scatter report on this guy but uh i don't think you can't you you can't be uh sitting off speed i'll tell you that because if he uh he throws one oh if he throws that fastball you're not going to even see it so okay so let's talk about the fastball we won't just talk about directly mason even though he throws a heat i mean 104 uh he's up there on a very regular basis let's just talk about you talked about how uh more guys are throwing 100 now so back in the day in my position returners there was like one returner around the league maybe two returners there's like ah they got a good returner they got a good return devin hester obviously most notable he took advantage of it they took advantage of how athletic he was how incredibly was then once people started seeing it as a weapon more people started getting it okay more people started having a great return every team started having like a great return okay they got a four two guy back there who could potentially break this entire game wide open i feel like it's the evolution of the game then you talk about how far people are able to throw a football and everything like that how fast guys are able to run now 40s are crazy in your sport how many people used to throw 100 in a season that you would see and then like now does everybody throw 100 because it feels like everybody throws 100 and if everybody throws 100 does anybody throw 100 yeah i think i think that the thing with pitching um has changed over the years where like when i when i first came up it was guys actually like pitching i mean don't get me wrong this guy's still doing that today but the younger guys coming up it's more like just they're going off stuff see and i'll hard they can throw it and seeing how much break they can get on their all speed their slider and i think that's why i mean i'm not a doctor but i think that's why you're seeing a bunch of injuries too guys are just going out there full full speed full blow blowing it out every single night you know when i when i first came up you for instance like facing justin verlander like he'll pitch and he still doesn't say you know he'll pitch it 93 94 you know and and and you know try to paint up and then if he needs it rear back with 97 98 you know he will um opposed to just sitting 97 98 for the whole game um you know max freed yesterday you know first inning you know 93 94 i got to my third bat first pitch was 98 and i'm like just out of nowhere so it's like you know that's why i mean i think that's why the numbers are you see these you know top top guys they can just tone it back and they're not just full full won't go every time but uh the the amount of 100 mile an hour fastballs it's like it's ridiculous from when i first came up okay yeah feels that way when i watch i see triple digits on the screen a lot more than i used to see it and obviously that's a big part of the game now is watching the score book okay is that thing first of all i'm looking right at the box yeah okay is this umpire an asshole or not okay that that's what i'm asking first which on that note connor has a question for you yeah try it feels like the m o b in general or mlb if you will isn't a great spot with the abs and the pitch clock as someone who's you know kind of starting to watch every single game it's much more entertaining especially when those challenges come through the wire how do you feel kind about the state of the game you've been in it since 2011 so this is kind of another iteration of mlb for you do you feel like it's in a great spot it's going in the right direction and where do you think it goes from here do you think the umps have a chance to even last behind the play what do you think yeah i think it's uh it's a good balance right now with the abs i love the abs you know it's uh it's very interesting like uh strategy wise you got to be smart with it because it i've seen you know a few games this year where we're at a challenges where you know we get late late in the games where you know there's been pitches where we should have challenged well we couldn't but i'm all four big moments um you know i hate bringing it up but uh you saw in the wbc with with kuri back there you know kuri's an unbelievable umpire uh but that was one of the ones where like that changes the game if you if you have abs it's a ball um you so you don't know what happens after that that thing but i'm just saying like all the big moments where you know late in the game uh that that can impact impact the outcome of the game it's good for baseball to be able to challenge and get the call right yeah i think we're saying the same thing in football as well i also think it has to be such a good time for these catchers to finally first time in their lives right i assume a lot of these catchers uh even in like little league they probably thought something was a strike when a ball was called junior high i don't know what you guys do get drafted to the high school stuff college if anybody minor i assume their entire life catching there has been a lot of oh no doubt you can't say anything though you can't show them up can't do that and then now for the first time in their life they're allowed just take that hand and just go to one of these liberating and it's a full on just like i've been saying for that is incredible that it has been incredible theater in my eyes but also i'm so the fulfillment for the catchers just like we've been saying this the whole time they have to feel electrifying all right last question for your trout we appreciate the hell out of you go ahead tie yeah mic for the longest time big time you know diehard baseball fans they just want to see you in the playoffs and it's been so long i mean you were the undisputed best player in the majors for like a seven eight year span and we didn't get to see you when it mattered most but early this year you guys have looked unbelievable joe dell looks great at the plate and in the outfield so lairs doing what he's doing you guys got a bunch of young talent what do you think of the team this year and and do you think you guys are kind of in position to to make a nice little run when you know not a lot of people are necessarily expecting that yeah i mean just the last four games to be able to you know get knocked down lose a tough one and then come back and you know win some ball games it's uh it would spend fun the abats you know it's just the the thing with us it's team at bats you know a lot of everybody's pulling from the same same rope uh where we come to the ballpark we're we're wanting to come to the ballpark we're wanting to come and just be with each other and we got a great group we got a great veterans we got great young guys and everybody's buying in and uh it's been a great team vibe as in you know no one's you know trying to do everything for themselves uh you know we're pulling from the same rope and you know it was it's the last four games was was was fun for me just to to be obviously you know hitting hitting wise but just to be able to watch um just just team at bats you know we're having 10 11 12 pitch at bats just draining pitchers out and you know i've got a lot of texts and i talked to a lot of guys that uh we played you know this year from from opposing teams like hey man you guys are good and uh you're line-ups deep and you know it's not just one guy um you know it's it's one through nine and um you know our pitch has been unbelievable as well with uh story on it at the top. Grazie i think yeah i believe he's the better guy. Go! Yeah. Mochos Grazie. Yeah. And a tie. That's 100% on me. I didn't know which world baseball classic team you know i didn't know which one we were pulling for we're pulling for them all we love the world baseball classic know that you love golf so tweaking obviously a part of everything go ahead deep. Yeah we're we're deep in the baseball now so in the al go a lot of these baseball things pop up and we've been playing with football in here too so i'm trying to get my swing right my coach here tells me hey squash the bug but i'm watching you and i see you kind of step your back foot back you kind of drag it forward has that kind of always been your swing or is that a recent tweak of yours? Yeah i started uh i always do it in the cage uh as a drill and i started it last year uh with uh jay wash our hitting coach last year just try to modify the the drill in the during the game and you know i went on a tear at the end of last year and i did it i did it at the end of the the season and i took it into y'all season and coming into spring i felt like i was in a good spot where i was doing the move i wanted to i was getting the feeling i wanted to get uh without doing the step back and then i went through a little skid where i kept you know not get be able to get back in my back sides and be able to go forward and uh so i went back to it and you know ever since i went back to it's been uh it's been unbelievable it's uh it's been fun no doubt no doubt yeah i think it's pretty good little swing for you i think you found it brother how's the golf swing you tweaking that at all? Golf swing is good uh playing every uh every road off day uh i don't play at home because i got two boys and uh and my wife to hang out with so it's been uh it's been great okay and uh do you do the cowas uh shallow yeah what is your technique what is your golf swing? My golf swing uh hit try to hit it in the hole he's a real player oh yeah he's got a real player real player out there they say and uh i can't wait to get on the course with you someday you're the man keep keep it going and stay healthy no i appreciate it i'm gonna get you down to trial national man i didn't know if we're allowed to say the name he has a golf course called trial national what it's beautiful i've seen the pictures actually open wednesday first time yeah open there open up wow you've been working your ass off for that thing for a long time congratulations i'm getting all these texts all my boys are down there you're face timing me uh while i'm out here so um i'm glad they're enjoying it yeah no no doubt you're the man ladies and gentlemen mike trial yeah trial okay so trout national um is he bought like a golf course in his home area in in jersey yeah that's sweet and he re he built a like a button like a gust of national like a legit course yeah him and tiger right i think tiger like designed a or him and tiger designed it together yeah trout national is gonna be the name of it like he trying to make it the best course possible is basically beast and not when i got intro to him they're like hey listen uh he might be building a golf course if you like golf you should definitely ask him about that and i was like hey what's up with the course he's like we'd love to have you out there man i'm like sweet i'll bring like the boys he goes let's make sure we yeah well definitely have you out there they play no they love you trout the trouts are uh in the group around them big fans at program we're very thankful happy he's healthy and happy it appears it feels like trout was one of the first guys that you saw one of those videos of like hey this is top golf watch this ball go two miles and i don't know if trout was the first one to do it but in my memory at least if only my trout was that guy we have some huge breaking news out of the nfl will anderson defensive end outside linebacker monster for the houston texans a part of the houston sack station and houston you don't have a problem with locking down a guy you invested a high draft picking k traded up to go make the thing happen and now he's getting a hundred and fifty million dollars 134 million guaranteed congrats to him that's over 40 14 divided by three is what 44.5 million 44.3 million 44.3 million a year guaranteed 50 million possibly in incentives a year for the next three years kisario obviously made big play loved him coming out of bamma now he signs him to a massive deal that resets the entire defensive end quarterback sacking market congratulations to will anderson i was hoping he'd be out of the afc south i love what they just did nope it'll be there for a long long time one of the pillars for their organization on defense side of the ball and you mentioned the houston sack uh station or sack exchange whatever it's called yeah the nil hundred locked him up for what another year we've got a fully guaranteed deal for he got two happy past rushers so i yeah that's bad news for the rest of the afc south he certainly is good thing we got daniel jones back that's right he can move okay we have to clue you in on something here okay so there is the thing called wwe world out in los vegas it is a place where every person that heads to mania goes and congregates basically all day there's different setups there's different experiences uh our show has broadcasted live from there in years past this year yeah right knocking in a convention center with these things yeah that kind of habitat this place yeah no this is all the people on the internet that hate my guts going into one place with the same mindset wanted to be a part of it one do something never happened before so we put up a sign that said huge surprise right here foxy go ahead and show it please huge surprise right here this thing has been up since yesterday okay it had been on a clock that said huge surprise 10 30 a.m local okay now we obviously have a countdown for the next two minutes until the huge surprise is going to debut we know what the huge surprises okay the huge surprise is going to be uh you guessed it me popping on that screen now we didn't know what the audience is going to be like as there's other events taking place on the other side it has filled in pretty nice these people think okay stone cold steve olson maybe why why i think maybe hell rob van den might come out anybody could possibly show up at this thing the final boss the rock holy hell this could be uh maybe this is nick con and aria manual giving away tickets from tko maybe triple h is announcing something brand new they have no idea what this is going to be huge surprise certainly indicates positive response in this entire thing and i don't know if they're showing us right now that's not great news if our tv is on somewhere in there put it on your phone oh they're watching name me there's a chance tough service they might be waving at some other mark so we're about a minute off take it off tv foxy let's not do that we're about a minute out from go ahead and drop it into these people's world and let them know surprise the old daddy is coming we're 40 seconds away from this thing dropping in but how do you think this goes with these marks who once again think this could be something awesome should be something awesome it's wwe world we're in las vegas celebrating one of the most monumental wrestle mania's in absolute history and now what's going to pop up the person that all these people hate i mean i've been at quite a hey i've been at quite a war with these people i'm the hero in the end i think they'll look back and thank me for but they do not like me in the moment they got their phones out now i mean this is going to be a moment yeah here we go huge surprise okay in the back let's go ahead and link up with them on what the clock is on their side because there is a little bit of a delay i'll be looking right here at this camera here and uh let's turn it over in three two and surprise nerds the surprise that you thought was maybe going to be your favorite wrestler of all time maybe maybe somebody from aew was going to sign with wwe wrestle mania and you marks were going to get zipper burn all over yourself instead well well well pat maccafee smarter than all the you dumb marks yet again just know that i am on my way to the city that you creatures are certainly taking over i can smell all of your low life disgusting bodies all the way here in indiana and when i get to that town and i'm talking to you little kid on your dad's shoulders too when i get to that town you should all be thanking me and randy orton as soon as i touch the turf in the desert do you have it clear well i got another surprise for you what me and randy are about to do to your entire wrestle mania weekend is something that you can't prepare for you can't control and you fat slob sitting right up close on the gate you're going to be crying your ass off as you leave wrestle mania knowing that what was what you all let happen is over and randy orton is about to run this industry back to what it's supposed to be out of your dumbass hands have a great wrestle mania weekend my show will be broadcasting live on this led board for the next 30 minutes get some greatness in your life before the biggest weekend you nerds will ever experience see it smack down tonight marks okay uh let's take that off on the feet yeah just cool okay so uh that's what we're talking about here uh they'll be able to take pictures obviously with us uh maybe let's do a full wide shot so they could take a photo with her set there there probably take you go cut over to them or are they are they able to yeah okay okay okay yeah a little bit of that a little bit of that a little bit of that hey there's kids there come on there's kids there come on there's kids there oh all right back to our regular schedule program looks don't worry about the nerds in vegas no no please turn that down out there actually so they can't hear us they don't deserve to hear my words they've already heard enough oh man that's awesome bravo yeah bravo incredible bravo well done one of the best things that we've done that you have ever done congratulations to the back going off the tech shout out we had a sense because obviously wwe people are like yeah you could just do that yeah you know so we actually had to send that was great we had to send i'm not gonna say the name because he he's big in the wrestling community uh he's works with us on a regular basis we had to send him and his team in there and it all worked to perfection when rogue oh my god the crazy little kid are so excited yeah he said there was some side little kids man oh maybe there's a new main event maybe there's a shot there is a main event it's on saturday night it's randy orton that was awesome i'm down walking in enemy territory over there i've heard the blues have been pretty loud yeah no doubt about it i've heard about andrew schultz you know they were marketing street fighter mm-hmm tell you roads is our very character which he does yeah which once again we do appreciate that and uh andrew schultz i guess said my name there was a rude response and i don't think i fully understand because i'm right here right i mean yeah yeah yeah without a doubt no you don't don't start doubting that you are no i'm not dot me at all okay good don't why are they all feeling sad just shouldn't they i'm saving the business that they love alongside the greatest of all time in randy orton what's that whole thing about you think you know what these people they don't know you got to kind of just shove what they need down their throat and it's unfortunate that that's the way it needs to be but that is the way it needs to be so you should feel very convicted in what you're doing like when your dog doesn't take their medicine you're just going to shove it down their throat and they gag until they realize it's good for them that's what well and also just like i agree with that like you kind of have to force them to they won't even understand until like maybe a couple months down the road when they're like oh my god this is so much well they still won't understand because they're so stupid but they'll get they'll be happier okay i like that i mean you know just like the bone yeah exactly perfect example we can kind of go along with that but once they see it i think in a couple months they can't help themselves but go like you know what guy oh no he was right maybe i mean you're assuming was that you saw him they got brain that's not exactly well that's why they're so upset is because you're saving the business that they love you know and although it's terrible you know like cody rhodes said we were a bunch of yes man but we told you hey don't do this this business sucks why would you go and try and do something for them they don't need the rub you know but then again that's the business that these marks have kind of created supported and loved you know they don't want actual wwe superstars the way you know we do with rand yore and the whole reason you're with rand yoren because he is a true superstar they want kind of the little shorter bitches that relate to a little more i mean that's just the reality i'm so in that exactly i want to let them they need to dream bigger yeah like hey you need to dream bigger that's right you're a mark you're not supposed to be able to see yourself in the cream of the crop those are supposed to be larger than life a la rand yore and a la roman reigns which is why you have to save the business to make it more like that not what it's become yeah stone cold steve austin superhero bingo for the white trash we hate authority group bingo the rock superhero for man this this is what a human could be yes with the microphone and in the ring and the way ridiculously handsome yeah i doubt about at that point we did smell with us let's go yeah i don't love what happened over there between cam and jay i think we're all kind of on the same page and i do appreciate mace immediately like i was in there though i would watch the tape watch the tape him coming back with the ice pack on the hat certainly like that he was taking care of himself and that's way to battle through smart jay who's so kind of lost his cool there yeah they did they did as many a season right i mean yeah he's on edge what do you expect yeah allegedly all the marks are still listening to us can we go back into the stupid convent hey shut up bums keep it down we're trying to do a show over here i hate that guy hey you got hey those little fingers of yours pal hey who's the little elf out there who's got the little tiny little baby thumbs that bend backwards and look like they're supposed to be a part of shrek's never ever land down there all right enough of that please too much too much of them you see those little nubby little fingers or he's got to some of them had to be told which one was their middle finger which i heard yeah hey what's he doing i said i hate that guy joining us now ladies and gentlemen from an attican ohio uh aj hawk what's our problem over there that wasn't a very welcoming response from wwe world yeah especially the my favorite part is when you uh starting off i'm chopping or not it's choppy on this side when you were pointing out individual people you fat slob in the front you kid on your shoulders like when you start signaling them out that's what i think really got him going the guy last week uh towards the end as me and randy were walking out with the title so is that your voice yeah he's i hate you pomegranate yeah i was actually startled almost and i was trying to figure out which one it was because there's a lot of people yelling yeah so and i obviously had no idea that the camera was going to be shooting me because of what we just did to kody right i thought they'd be showing the champion and said they're showing me and randy walk out which is maybe once again saving business yeah they might get it as we're kind of getting to this we should probably reconnect with you aj but yeah i didn't know if that was on that was a genuine that was a real moment yeah are you kidding me all right is that your app wow that would suck that was what i was thinking but then i got to remember hey no empathy for this no no no no empathy for these things no absolutely not got the wrestling fans certainly up in arms can't wait for it all to be settled this weekend and when it is settled all you marks just fall right okay fall right in line right behind randy or business gonna be a good place you can't wait for that i'm pretty excited about it all now fridays have become an annual tradition and we just saw a group of oh no yeah yeah it's sure a lot of them hey show that clip just show them can we show them real quick every person out there oh no guy in the front here with the triple h skull shirt on the left yeah he looks in the mirror every morning goes oh no guy with the big hat trying to get that on wearing a button down just skipping work for whatever reason looks like a zito a little bit of a rounder fella he looks at the scale whenever he steps down there and says oh no little kid down there is looking up to his dad his dad has put on a bad wrestling fandom for him allowed him to get to this pace he looks up at his dad and he says dad you're such a bomb i didn't know that all i could really think is oh no all right enough with them please let's get to some you saw fake rumble right yeah it was a little fake when we go if there's run rains we would like to to right to the right to the right a little bit to the to the right hey there's little nubby fingers right there pal okay hey bud you didn't take it easy your cheeks are touching your touching your neck pal you droopy bum okay uh let's get away from them let's get away from them please let's get away from them i'm going war with that mission that's right and randy is actually going war with kody that's right but it's my job you know as motivator friend of randy everybody's saying to my manager it's like i'm no i'm motivator motivator i'm a friend motivator confident yeah bingo i'm just telling him what he needs hey this is what we we need to ha ha ha you're the right guy for the job let's go ahead and do that he agrees we're kind of in this thing together i think you'll hear that tonight if you were to go through there but these people they don't respect that no no no they're good i don't know in one ear out the other once again wrestle man you'll be live on espn's platforms this weekend as we are right now download espn on live super duper plus yes get it figured out now because if you don't you're gonna be pissed when this whole thing starts first hour tomorrow espn two sunday first hour espn tomorrow first you got the triple six man you got uh logan austin in ishio speed taking on the usos and oh they just mentioned it come on we're big fans of this i know la night dole yeah logan paul's in that one yeah yeah and and that's kind of why we forgot because he had the greatest hit in the history of hits during during first day today yeah i forgot what he taught me because it's four a.m. right now i was told about this last night you're not peter that'll ask a better question hey logan i think you should be pretty proud of yourself logan on how you handled yourself as you know good for business yeah good business good for business joining us live and speaking of business come watch business get handled tomorrow night rest of many tonight smackdown to i got to go to the same city as all those things you can kind of if you tip your nose towards vegas i don't know where you're at we're in indianapolis so we'd be looking west okay we'd be taking our nose west if you just give one good you can smell them yep when those things are together like that it just creates like a smog fog of shite yep mark wildfire yes it exactly it is a mark wildfire smog and smell and poop and it's just floating through so if you give one good that's rest many weekend though yeah that's true these things all come together and all of their pits yeah all of their sweats all of their poops yeah everything just kind of goes together and then it somehow gets out of the convention center because convention center is not on us no convention center been through this last year back back years in vegas convention center said we're gonna let that smell out and then that just shits oozes everywhere covers the entire strip like a dust storm you'll see him i guess yeah even almost people are like yeah what is wrong with these guys gross and whenever we smell them we think to ourselves oh no it's friday it's time to get through the oh no's from the sports week that was let's head to beautiful golf oh sorry oh sorry uh seattle thank you for that seattle i'm so sorry oh no each row Suzuki getting celebrated as a mariner oh what happened to the bat he cracked it but he did get on base i heard of course cracked the bat got on base obviously you think you have everything figured out until it just gets ripped on because it's a bat beautiful looking statue beautiful seemingly put together well crack the bat good thing bad thing tie or does it definitely scream oh no yeah not the greatest uh not the greatest thing when you're trying to honor a guy like each row and a lot of people are maybe saying hey this is why the mariners are playing like shite right now we're trying to honor one of the greatest players in the history of our franchise and we can't even do the due diligence to make sure the bat isn't broken on the monument come on if you actually look closely when you restart the video fox you can actually see ken griffey jr say snap oh no on the left side when he realized he's a photographer oh no let's stay in baseball shall we let's go to pittsburgh a 19 year old sensation playing for the buck goes connor griffin has made incredible plays he's gonna do a whirleyburr 360 double play instead nobody's out nobody's out they score it's a disgusting overthrow everybody say why'd you do a little circle button cuz you're 19 let's not figure it out he's trying to figure out what he can and can't do yeah okay he's trying to figure out what speed what's not the speed he thought he looked so sweet boom boom god tried to spear him in a calf too obviously holds on to the ball because he's yeah he's just figuring it out certainly made everybody in the stadium go connor griffin 19 year old oh no he didn't make up for it though please yeah he did he hit a triple uh in his next of bat but also they reviewed this the guy the runner was out and was clearly interference so this was not an ono on connor griffin this is ono on mlb replay in new york oh i like that whenever we divert something anyways and people were saying oh no let's go to golf shall we we saw this on sunday obviously the man had been playing well at august uh he got into a good final grouping and then it all fell apart because of uh people not feeling great how tong lee stuck in the woods obviously they had to figure out a camera to shoot him over there did find the ball though which is pretty impressive yeah at this stage could have probably just mailed it in picked it up and just walked the rest of the course he would have scored the same thing and then let's also talk about him putting it oh he's got to have a good touch there he's got the greens are running fast it's been dry all week the masters obviously the masters of golf it's going to be a difficult place how tong lee rolls it by the green and that's end of the water oh yeah we're talking about uh ass round of golf and every time he stepped over the ball all the things that were going on in between his ears were just oh no that's a tough day mr lee we think you will find yourself in a better place in the future not as tough as uh Sergio Garcia who former masters champ hits a drive no bang boom he's not done no folks broke his driver needs go ahead and tack the ground a little bit Sergio Garcia definitely in contention to win this thing these shots matter yeah right these shots certainly matter enough to take it and boom off a cooler let's go ahead and finish the job this guy's roughing up august a national property who's he think he is sir west come on they're about to call them sergi oh no garcia now let's go to chris garter up from this week's tournament this man has won four pga events in the past including this year he's a great golfer young golfer he's the next generation and he whipped oh chris all right with on a golf ball yes that practice swing that's what i do that's what i do in these situations yeah chris garter up's good golfer can't do the practice clean game again this level no yeah as soon as you address it and you go ahead and take a hack out of the head that's certainly giving me a stroke chris garter up said let me walk that my media move would be just uh let me pick it up roll it on the other side where i'm taking it chris garter up with an attorney oh no let's go to basketball shall we there's always a few of these how about a playing game paulo bank caro i got you at cause bang in the head lady right in the head we're talking hero down peace handling business this lady sitting court side playing game on the wood certainly somebody of importance and what we find out she's an absolute dog yeah but all you could hear is paulo banchero no absolute beast right there in philly proud of that jawn obviously let's go to the heat hornets game overtime final minute what's gonna happen who's gonna win the game time out they sell it is this the commercial kind of a bop i guess okay they'll get us back at least i like that they're just giving us a little bit of a clean the quarter or something this is good technical difficulties a weird way to word that means they're sending something right okay let's get back to the game oh i missed 25 seconds of action and overtime to play and give up the fuck i just met these people what are we even doing literally all i could think to myself is amazon technical difficulties and overtime more like oh no time stay in basketball shall we zack bryan okay this guy sells out stadiums yeah we need to show respect to what he has been able to do with a guitar and his voice most ever at the big house in an arbor but he sells out stadiums okay if you're able to sell out stadiums which we get i'm not going back to the marks i'm not doing that i'm not going back to the march but if you can sell out stadiums i have respect for what you've been able to do now his song everybody knows is we're having an all night revival you gotta see him do it on stage oh yeah shan gillis run his mouth a little bit holding a beer up there going he's a day cat uh dan jones though dan jones singing it he's been doing it so we know zack bryan i know a lot about zack bryan or uh you know his life as well right and that comes with being a guy who sells out fucking stadiums i think that's part also serve it in military appreciate his service all that stuff they need to keep him away from the basketball court i like that he's doing sports for cardio i like that he's a sports fan i like he's selling a safe can't have that on on tape can't have that on tape okay we need to make sure that camera's not in out there not only was it a travel and other things it was also just zack bryan's working in the paint why they got him running the full court you know like that ain't where he's supposed to be no no so when i was seeing this i just thought to myself why is why is this being filmed okay why is his teammates letting it happen and also shot zack bryan kind of putting a maximum effort even though it turns out to be zero points and that makes you inevitably go oh no zack bryan can't have that on tape can't be good at everything i agree but i like he's doing sports for cardio getting in shape for this night yeah can we get an outlet pass please someone's gonna yell outlet the guy's down below the hoop he's gotta pass that thing no his teammates waving through like what leave the break we know this is how this goes i would like to blame the teammates he feels like he doesn't pass very much well and he might be the best player because the shot itself went off the top of the backboard uh in game right i like maximum effort out of buddy who wasn't gonna foul either right he kept hands up because remember we saw gary v clip from a few years ago he got stripped ran back anger fouled again hard hard guy did not punch him immediately in face which was a surprise to all of us here no foul zack bryan said it's not about me actually you're saying he wouldn't pass the ball he's underneath the hoop he says let me get this out of my hands actually let me go ahead and put on one of the boys and all i ask of the boys is you see that camera filming that fast break we need to ask for that we need to ask for that video break that phone yeah i would have full utility belt on oh you see a weapon yes yeah i could boss you out by that guy he's on zack's team maybe he needs to start hitting a little bit but i had that guy's wearing bones wearing jeans yeah i liked the way he's doing that but anyways the tape and the video making the internet just makes us go oh no let's get away from some sports now let's go to some other things uh still sport but out of ball sport world let's head down to the Tampa Bay rodeo yeah this ain't our first rodeo we know the rodeo life we actually respect the rodeo life this is cowboy sway he's riding a bucking horse a bucking horse sorry bear back does a forward roll he's a showman hey i don't see what i did there that's what cowboy sway said goes up in the crowd that's me that's me that just did that to that horse tell me i'm great back flip stamping stamping stamping i mean cowboy sway on top of that horse i mean he's riding that thing that's a movie then he does a forward roll incredible he probably does parkour as well if i can guess that's a classic land roll situation go up on the gates yeah this crowd needs to know cowboy sway back flip by the way i'm not done everybody in crowd was like you're the man you're the man way oh no cowboy sway is one of them ones though you know he'll get right back up and get back on that thing yeah it ain't about how bucked you get on the back of that bucking horse it's about whether or not you get your bucking ass back up that's right cowboy sway is gonna get his ass back bucking up yeah exactly last one doesn't really need to be talked about as much there's a man that would never be able to ride a bucking horse no no there's a man that is a part of our group part of our team part of our culture part of this program who's a trader yeah who committed an act of treason could be an accessory to multiple crimes but the reason why he's not being accused of all those things is because he's too dumb i don't know if that's a good thing for him or a bad thing for him but i do know you go back to tuesday after hours it's bones day to sweep the floor he gets distracted by a banging at the door goes out there for about a few seconds comes back in cody rhodes he would go on to say cody told me that you told him that he was going to swing by you know what was real or unreal it's you don't let cody rhodeson in this exact time cody would then go on to destroy set and steal randy orton's title that's right but i guess they say is his currently but we clearly took it out of there he would take his title brutalize the desk cause millions in dollars damage yeah broke a babe ruth signed back yeah disgusting and walked out and that's all because deboned this man is more de bono than ever before whoa what's that for what the heck that is for all the marks oh shut up he is the more yeah oh get him out of there get him out of there damn shit we hope you enjoy wrestle mania this weekend on espn's platforms nba playoffs nhl playoffs tonight's smackdown we'll be back for an overreaction monday a lot is gonna happen have the greatest weekend of all time be a friend tell friends i'm nice and i change your life goodbye got it all in there yep all right aj i gotta go to that cesspool i gotta go to that cesspool over there to all those those things as you've uh referred to them as yeah and these things like the gossip yes they do you know that mingle these things how you say it yeah it works yeah well thanks aj yeah thanks aj it's gonna save the business i think in in what it is you're just telling this guy don't why don't you go ahead and do that i'm just gonna do that that's right okay let's go live to a w w world the cameras are found a fan nice okay that's a good shirt hey buddy let's get a couple of those don't let any of them buy that they don't deserve to wear that shirt take that shirt out of the store i'm just i'm heading there right now to get that fucking all the merch out of there yep smart they don't deserve to be wearing that i could tell big hat guy was a fan earlier because after you did him he was like i know he was trying to be super nice every time he was lifting the hat yeah and i was like he's really the only one sticking out too late sorry sorry that's the game you play he didn't look exactly i mean he was either kind of ricochet yeah the little nubby fingers was my favorite yeah the kid the kid the triple the triple h guy because you doubled down on him and he was really bummed when you popped the hot he was really bummed so that was just a man chef's kiss that was incredible let's go do man hell yeah how's it how's it gonna go tonight a little preview i genuinely i don't even know why i'm going to this fucking show you know what i mean walking the building everybody in the back i hate them they hate me everybody in the stands i hate them they hate me so yeah i guess i'll roll in there that sounds like a good time to me that sounds like a good time to me and that's the difference you know i'm okay with it you know i'm okay with much like artemus the second you know the moon was traveling artemus had to aim ahead okay well said to catch the moon okay that's me the moon's traveling too yes around the you didn't know that artemus fucking aimed ahead of time you got a lead your receiver but yeah it's shut around that thing gotta use the telemetry to get us back home engage we aimed way ahead of time we sent that thing like it was a bird shot you know like we're poo and i think that's what that's a me and randy are kind of doing for the business right now in these bums i would never want to compare them to the moon because that moon under that moon a lot has happened yeah okay that moon is an impressive thing you know what's on doke's side what's on the inside well actually the business is kind of like artemus and they're using you and randy's the moon to slingshot into better things oh you think they're aiming for us see i was saying i'm projecting thermostat there the thermometer thing which is what artemus did which is project ahead of time and they're kind of gonna have to catch up you know there's a couple other businesses we've done that too so this one just kind of have to you know just kind of have to do it again but get telling saying there the moon is a fucking wild because they deserve the moon brother because the moon's awesome you guys are more like the sun you light up the moon when the time comes and artemus is probably kind of the marks you know trying to try to go around and be near them all you know actually 11's more like they're 13 you're gonna compare astronauts that we have that went to the moon to these fucking slobs at wwe we're right there you're right there's a metaphor in there somewhere yeah hey uh behind the glass great work good work boy boys grafted zomboids other than bone great work this was the word boys zito great work this week baby work a couple studio upgrades yeah couple studio upgrades somebody's wearing a fucking fake title let's get out of here let's get out of here let's get out of here we i'm gonna i'm gonna go see that be a friend a j great work this week debut hell yeah two brothers boys great work hey you too yeah road to wrestle mania certainly heated up hasn't very quickly it's kind of a short road isn't it yeah yeah it's kind of short now would be a um like a top thrill dragster what's uh what's the uh when you have uh the end of a cul-de-sac yep will it be a short cul-de-sac because remember if randy done when i'm gone forever that's right well will this be a fucking pop line right to the future of greatness maybe it's the highway oh no what's the one over in germany where they don't have any autobahn it's the autobahn dominia yeah okay it was a short start only couple weeks live although months on the phone a couple weeks live we've we've certainly six and there's road to close signs and you're just blowing through them 100 miles an hour each road close sign i see some fat mark boom that's brain should not be trusted why is this thing giving an opinion nobody asked for this thing to give an opinion and if you give enough opinions people still don't care about your opinions that should be a message that your opinion isn't worth having slob open your door knock them over yeah yeah we're changing that's right we're saving no restrictor plate on the vehicle tony esb and super duper plus hell yeah let's have the greatest weekend of all time hell yeah let's have the most impactful weekend of all time hell yeah love that well remember our kids will have a strong wwe because at the top of the wwe will be randy or be a friend hovering something nice might change your life when this thing together let's never forget that other than you marks yeah you can forget that we ain't together it never will be thank god so much gratitude flow over my body that i'll never be one of them never yeah ever and never have to be around them except for like when i walk into a building and there but i can easily just you got something coming for them too oh look alive bums i can't wait to see you guys monday team on me team on three let's have a weekend hell yeah we'll see you on monday biggest overreaction monday of all time team on three one two three team goodbye