The Pat McAfee Show

PMS 2.0 1558 - Wayne Gretzky, PGA Championship Winner Aaron Rai, Kendrick Perkins, PK Subban, & AJ Hawk

168 min
May 21, 20269 days ago
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Summary

The Pat McAfee Show covers major playoff moments across NBA, NHL, and golf, featuring interviews with Wayne Gretzky on hockey's growth, PGA Champion Aaron Rai on his historic win, and discussions of playoff drama including Wembanyama's dominance, the Knicks' historic comeback, and Montreal's hockey resurgence.

Insights
  • Wayne Gretzky's perspective on modern athletes being bigger, faster, and stronger suggests legacy records may be less about individual greatness and more about era-specific advantages, challenging traditional GOAT debates
  • The organic emergence of fan movements like 'tarps off' in baseball demonstrates authentic fan engagement outperforms forced marketing campaigns, offering lessons for sports leagues on community building
  • Aaron Rai's two-glove putting technique and his wife's role as both professional golfer and caddy illustrates how shared professional understanding between partners creates competitive advantage in individual sports
  • Defensive physicality in NBA playoffs (Hartenstein on Wembanyama) is becoming a strategic focal point, with film review and officiating adjustments now part of playoff gamesmanship
  • International expansion of NFL games faces athlete wear-and-tear concerns that Jerry Jones dismisses as minor compared to historical demands, signaling inevitable global NFL growth regardless of player concerns
Trends
Sports authenticity and organic fan movements driving engagement more effectively than corporate-led initiativesInternational sports expansion accelerating across NFL, NHL, and golf despite logistical and athlete concernsDefensive strategy evolution in NBA playoffs emphasizing physical disruption of elite scorers like WembanyamaCross-professional partnerships (spouses in same sport) creating competitive advantages in individual sportsYoung athletes (Rai, Mendoza, Bowers) breaking records and challenging established narratives about player developmentHockey's growth in non-traditional markets (US, Florida) reshaping league parity and playoff competitivenessSuperstition and ritual in baseball (borrowed equipment, pants) gaining mainstream attention as performance psychologyCoaching changes mid-season (Vegas with Tortorella) producing immediate playoff success and culture shiftsLegacy record discussions becoming less about individual dominance and more about era-specific rule and athlete evolutionWomen's sports (PWHL, Olympic hockey) gaining visibility and sponsorship parity with men's leagues
Companies
ESPN
Primary broadcast partner for NBA, NHL, and sports coverage discussed throughout episode; hosts multiple analysts and...
TNT
Wayne Gretzky's employer as NHL analyst; discussed as major contributor to hockey broadcasting and league growth
Fanatics
Created 'Hoist the Cone' merchandise for Pittsburgh Pirates fans; credited with organic fan movement success
Jif
Joms brand (peanut butter and jelly sandwiches) reached exclusive partnership deal with NFLPA for league-wide distrib...
We Buy Any Car
Automotive sales service advertised as sponsor offering simplified car selling process
People
Wayne Gretzky
Hockey legend and all-time record holder discussing modern game evolution, player comparisons, and league growth
Aaron Rai
2026 PGA Championship winner discussing his historic victory, two-glove technique, and partnership with wife
Kendrick Perkins
Provided critical analysis of NBA playoffs, James Harden's defense, and picked Montreal Canadiens for hockey
PK Subban
Former NHL player analyzing Eastern Conference Finals, Mitch Marner's performance, and Montreal Canadiens prospects
AJ Hawk
Co-host providing sports analysis across NFL, NBA, NHL, and baseball; made playoff picks for multiple sports
Pat McAfee
Primary host conducting interviews and moderating sports discussions across multiple leagues
Connor
Co-host asking questions about golf, hockey, and sports trends throughout episode
Ty Schmidt
Co-host contributing to sports analysis and asking guest questions
Jaylon Brunson
Knicks guard who led historic 22-point playoff comeback in Game 1 of Eastern Conference Finals
Victor Wembanyama
Rookie sensation facing physical defensive pressure from Hartenstein; discussed as generational talent
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
Back-to-back NBA MVP leading Thunder to playoff victory; discussed as elite two-way player
Mitch Marner
Former Toronto Maple Leafs player now excelling with Vegas; discussed as all-world talent vindicated
Sidney Crosby
Legendary Penguins captain discussed by Gretzky as one of greatest players; still playing at elite level
John Tortorella
Mid-season coaching hire credited with transforming Vegas into playoff contender
Fernando Mendoza
Rookie QB discussed as potential star with elite physical tools and football intelligence
Brock Bowers
Rookie tight end described as 'football robot from heaven' breaking records in first season
Shohei Ohtani
Two-way player hitting home runs while pitching; discussed as dominant force in baseball
James Harden
Criticized for defensive struggles in Game 1 loss; discussed as potential liability in playoffs
Erin Rogers
Confirmed final season with Steelers; stated 'this is it' regarding retirement timeline
Jack Campbell
Signed new contract after all-pro season; described as heart and soul of Lions defense
Quotes
"This is it"
Erin RogersWhen asked by Mark Kaboly if this could be his last year
"It's like you're walking up a down escalator"
Eric Johnson (via PK Subban)Describing what it feels like to play against Carolina Hurricanes at home
"He's a football robot from heaven"
Clint KubiakDescribing Brock Bowers as a tight end prospect
"Real recognize real"
PK SubbanDiscussing Mitch Marner's exceptional hockey IQ and playmaking
"The best team usually wins in a four to seven series eventually the cream rises to the top"
Wayne GretzkyOn playoff unpredictability and talent evaluation
Full Transcript
Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble about the Thunderdome on this The Great One Thursday May 21st 2026 this sports program begins now. Spores are the greatest and obviously playoffs last night. Hello Vegas Golden Knights and welcome back to the Oklahoma City Thunder. The playoffs have been spectacular so many different storylines like for instance is that ethical ball that's happening over there in Oklahoma City. Obviously there's a reigning defending undisputed shout to Paul Heyman NBA champs and they have the back-to-back MVP one of the first times that that's happened in the history of ball and people are watching the game say I like this what do we got going on they're saying that they sent in a goon to attack Wemby in Hartenstein why I would say you don't understand Hartenstein ball this is kind of what he does he's not just a goon he has this raindrop drop top touch that is capable hi-hi up over Wemby obviously it feels like he potentially said to coach Dags I'll be the one and that we got how many fouls I could potentially do that and in doing so he kind of fostered Wemby pissed off a lot of people because not only do they now have a guy attacking the alien here Hartenstein does this by the way he did the Pacers last year he's a dog through and through always will be feels like this is his style of hoops he had one from the side as well where he shot that thing to the ceiling and drop it down he did it against the Pacers last year but the flopping I just can't do it can't do it especially when the refs aren't calling it now there was quite an advantage in free throws for the Oklahoma City Thunder over the San Antonio Spurs because remember that that one right there really pissed people that Harrison Barton kind of standard we're out there this is close game every point matters in this particular thing in the refs are calling it and we're seeing bodies flop all over the place and everybody thinks to themselves Oklahoma say you don't have to do that you guys are talented enough and they showcase that they are Caruso makes buckets again Hartenstein obviously doing his thing SGA goes off which we all probably expected with what I was gonna happen and while he's hitting a massive shot to kind of seal the entire thing he's telling one of his teammates hey shut up to McCain basically hey listen pal I don't need you yelling in my backswing while I'm doing this I'm the back-to-back MVP please calm down please okay I you don't think I back-to-back MVP SGA don't know that you're open right now you think me point guard that has been awarded the best player in ball back-to-back years don't know that you're open right now I know that you're open okay and if you heard Chris Paul maybe yesterday and everybody else basically the message that SGA has been getting seemingly from everybody around him is like hey need you to you guys start going you're trying to find the open purse because you're getting doubled you're always going to get doubled you need to take this game into your own hands he started to do that now he was on a floor a little bit he don't love that people talk about that a lot but I think what people were kind of reminded of last night is that this Oklahoma City team can win games this Oklahoma City team can cover okay yeah yeah I could have missed that it could have cruiser could have missed that that game could have won a very different way at the very end and you know maybe you fall asleep you wake up a little bit later and you go whoa did not hit because I thought for sure when B would cover and then you go what were the coverage just so I know what were the covering points and it's caruso doing some freak show shit it's like okay pal maybe not how I want everything to happen even though it had to happen but we move forward one one into west in the battle of Goliath and tonight off the jaws of defeat the New York Knicks 22 point comeback a run of all runs to end game one of the eastern conference finals can they do it again the Cleveland Cavaliers team coach Ackinson who said hey James Harden's been a good defender all play us for us we love this guy whatever that one of their best we love this guy now my eyes and stats were saying very different things and i'm a James Harden fan it was just tough for that entire thing where he was basically picking rolled 21 times allegedly he was the stat 21 times he was picking rolled which I didn't play basketball but anytime we would play pickup basketball I knew that usually the picks were to try to shuffle people onto different people I potentially every once in a while with my build and potential look was somebody that people were trying to get on to somebody that had the ball I knew was happening you're in the middle of war I think this happens in basketball at every stage it certainly can happen with Jaylon Brunson whenever he starts feeling hot sure and when Jaylon Brunson starts feeling he he will check everything and then he will make you look like a fool and he won't blink the entire time and he'll do his little celebration right in your face while timothy shall may say and I know I know and ben stiller's high five and tracy morgan's going crazy jimmy fowler's there with his kid I mean it's a new york celebration in your face which is what happened to James Harden I assume he's going to answer I assume Ackinsen the coach that's saved behind him said we played three and a half good quarters let's remember that we beat the hell out of him in three quarters donovan mitzhol's now getting talked about as being a 20 point loss and a playoff guy like a record that I think he's going to answer tonight did the cleven cavaliers tie this thing up in the east or does this become a little bit of a runaway and they missed out on their opportunity to steal one in Madison Square Garden maybe catch the nicks a little bit rusty and then in hockey we head to the east welcome back to our hurricanes here we go kx carolina hurricane sweep the first two rounds of the playoffs haven't seen them in forever they are now at home taking on the montreal canadiens now the city of montreal I think sent me a tweet this morning okay they they sent me a tweet this morning it was something about how am I feeling about montreal okay and I would like to say the way that I feel about montreal right now is really high I mean when they were able able to go into buffalo into that buzzsaw and get a massive win their home ice environment is something that I said I wish I would have been at because they had fire and flames and torch I think was being passed at one point it was like an olympic ceremony just to drop the puck here in the playoffs it was something that was very special I was super high on the montreal canadiens but it's hard not to it's hard not to to think about how dominant the carolina hurricanes were yeah and then you start asking some questions around to people that you know that played in the league a little bit you know we have horno now on the right horno eric johnson 18 year nhl vet get a chance to send him a text hey what are your thoughts on kind of tonight montreal he's a there's a chance monster all is a little bit tired his exact text was rather electrifying uh but it's buzzsaw okay a hornet's nest you're walking up on a down escalator is how it feels to play in carolina as an opponent especially with how much off time they've had he said that that's how much he thinks the canyaks matter now remember in hockey we have been learning through stats that the the home ice thing may be real like feel and see but on the ice it doesn't really matter the canyaks have held true to the stats that home ice matters they have dominated down here will montreal look tired after a very long series with the canyaks coming off a massive amount of rest will they be more fresh will they be buzzing because of it we shall see two games tonight and joining us in like four or five minutes will be the greatest hockey player that ever played the great one wane gretsky tnt which was obviously tonight eight o'clock the toxic tables here at boston connor at thai schmidt one half of the hammer dad tau boys ap tone is your con man just saying that the great one wane gretsky's coming on is worthy of a wild type moment but i think if we look all four teams in both leagues worthy yeah right out every once in a while the team will get like hurt and like this situation it's like this team is vastly different than the team that was like last round or maybe even the round two ago where they would slip through like an easy round it feels like every night anything can happen vegas golden knights last night getting a massive win over the abs huge deal yesterday we're being we're being told by ej that a col macar being our cal macar being out is like the loss of a prime lebron james and it certainly looked that way but mba that can happen nhl that can happen any night anybody can get it sports delivering in a big way tonight's going to be no different con man yeah very excited both teams in the west last night losing jillian williams for okc and dylan harper with hamstrings for the san tony ospers that kind of stinks kind of great for the nicks and for what happened with dylan was he coming back to play he was trying to look like now allegedly and then one of those nope no no okay no way or you're gonna like that but there was uh there was like an interesting situation because i mean maybe a decision was made by coach or something like hey hamstring yeah right this is not how this is going to go who knows but yeah you're right there is certainly now the attrition part of this entire thing yeah boats well for the east as well with the nicks and calves tonight and they're probably not too worried about it both of them have kind of had their rest not not as much the cast they haven't been as dinged up but kind of big thing that big horno did say yesterday was the rest versus rust thing not being real so to say that i feel good about the hurricanes cany x tonight would be an understatement especially because montreal i mean they've played 14 games like that is absurd you wonder if freddie anderson for carolina stays hop between the pipes but if they're this rested i believe jarvis boys will be looks on site uh it does seem for those that don't know jarvis jarvis place for the hurricanes one of the young stars up there he has a group of lads that we assume he's been playing hockey with since he was a wee little boy out there on the ponds in their icy manitoba yeah juniors obviously yeah certainly through all the different leagues that they were playing at they were a little pee we on the ponds kind of doing their thing and they all knew that he had a shot to make it and they they became a tight crew they humbled him they hardened him they sharpened him and they have followed him to carolina and they are certainly having a few oh yeah they're certainly having a few good times and they're cranking on the crank up there big time in the vibe that i mean everybody there's talked about carolina jack used a couple days ago says carolina's barn is the one that that is the one okay ej horno just goes it's like you're walking up a down escalator in there i don't know what it is the canyaks are ready for this entire thing should be an electrifying environment which is good for sport touch man yeah without a doubt and this is the you know even if you're not a fan of the nba or you're not a fan of the nhl or you're just a casual fan and you have no dog in the fight like it's the it's just the perfect time to watch all of these series really like even the the nix game the other night you know you're thinking all this stinks if you just if you just have it on and kind of stick with it exactly just hold same deal last night vegas and the avalanche you know vegas gets up three nothing and it's kind of like oh here we go and then the avalanche score two you just kind of got a hold on and trust that all of these games will deliver and they have so far joining us now is a man who delivered on the ice for a long time all 20 years all of the records so like sports have records and there's a lot of records right especially with the amount of numbers that you can have for stuff how many periods are in hockey how many different you know you can certainly get an apple or you can get a go like there's so many different points or second assists there's so many there's a lot of stats that you can have gay and hockey the guy that's about to join us that guy right there incredibly handsome by the way yeah watching the film you would never think he looks this good right now okay the film looks like it's from 17s yeah it looks like George Washington skating it kind of does with the advancements of technology and film and everything that it is it's crazy that that was the quality versus what it is now but even with the poor quality kind of the finger paint look you know who he is oh yeah okay he's faster than you are he's scoring all the goals and he had all of the records whenever he retired from hockey still has a large majority of them and now obviously a massive contributor in voice for the nhl on tnt ladies and gentlemen the great one Wayne Gretzky how you doing Wayne? Hey nice to be on the show great to be here and I want to thank you guys for how great you've been for hockey it's just wonderful to see huh that feels good doesn't it yeah way no you're gonna you're gonna experience this I think you experienced this last time you were on when we were at a tst I think any compliment you say to us is a massive ordeal because it does feel like an entire league and a sport is talking to us through you so thank you for that thank you for being such a great representative of sport and goats I think everybody has such massive respect for you and on that note let's talk about the nhl right now in the league that you were obviously a massive pillar of building and growing up into the right everything uh viewer crazy and we're talking about some teams now obviously Colorado has stars all over the place Vegas has been here before but whatever we were going into the playoffs there's a lot of big names that weren't going to be in the playoffs and aren't feels like the sport is thriving right now why do you think that is Wayne and do you think that's only going to continue it's only going to get bigger and let me say this we have so many wonderful guys in the game of hockey not only are they great athletes and good players they're good people and they understand the responsibility of not only playing the game but helping sell the sport so I'm very proud to say I'm part of the national hockey league and listen we're disappointed we're devastated we didn't win gold medal in February in Italy but in the United States with the Americans winning hockey's gone to another level and and let's say this every time the US wins Mike Aruzzi only gets paid for another four years and we love whatever he gets knocked down he was on our show I'm telling you he's the highest paid player ever who scored one goal in his life it didn't happen to a better guy though he's just a wonderful young man so good for Mike but no hockey is growing you're right and it's fun to watch isn't it fun yes it's physical it's hard it's demanding but my goodness is it fun to watch and these kids today there's such great athletes there's such good players it's so much fun to watch yeah I love hockey I have I've been very lucky that I grew up in a hockey town you know in that hockey town we had a lot of great players we had Le Magnifique you know Mario Lemieux and growing up I thought him and your arm or your arm were obviously the standard of excellence and then as I got older you know I continued to watch Sydney Crosby do his thing and I'm like yep there's the greatest of all time I multiple times I've said other people the greatest of all time you know what's amazing is twice now Pittsburgh Penguins used to have their training camp in Bramford 1967 to 74 and those days the teams would be in southern Ontario so I used to go to their camps once or twice a week my dad would get me out of school so I could go watch the the practices so I have this sort of relationship with Pittsburgh but isn't it amazing obviously Mario's one of the greatest players who ever lived in the game and played the game and he's so good for a game he saved a franchise there and then you think years later this young kid from Nova Scotia comes along and he does everything he's done and it's hard enough to get one superstar in the city but for this city of Pittsburgh they have two not only two of the greatest players who ever played the game but two wonderful young men who know what it means to be a Pittsburgh penguin and what it means to play in the NHL the the city I'm sure is very proud of both of them yeah absolutely very proud of both of them and very lucky to have both of them I think yeah I speak for penguins fans everywhere whenever we say that but I just was brainwashed into thinking though that they were the greatest of all time and then I'd like ask them and that you hear them talk and they're like uh no go look at the record books Wayne Gretzky's now on that note way no uh Sidney's getting asked now a lot of questions especially as he's continuing this international play and what a guy that just absolutely loves sport his dad's over there at the international ice hockey federation world championship that is currently taking place right now and uh Sid was asked about you know how much longer maybe he wants to play and he basically said he wants played till the wheels fall off is that just indicative of the love of sport or how do you kind of feel like he views it here as a man who played 20 years in your sport as well he wants to continue and listen he's our tom brady he's our little bronze James the guy that can still bring it at an older age no face facts he's not 18 anymore he's he's getting older I'll tell you funny Sidney's uh Crosby's story they had this camp in California in LA uh San Fernando Valley and they had all these kids come in they were uh 18 year olds they're going to be drafted in the national hockey league dad june and I just retired I went to watch these kids play and I said yeah they're all pretty good but who's that little guy out there he's the best player out there he goes that's Crosby he's only 14 I got my equipment the next day I said I'm going on the ice with him so I jumped on the ice with the kids the next day I wanted to skate with him because he was that good so we came back to my house after the skate his dad and Sid and a friend of mine is agent of the time Mike Burnett and Eddie meal I can't say come over to my house there's only 10 minutes away come over have lunch so we're sitting there and his dad looks at him and he says can I ask you a question I we had a two on one and I passed it to him and he shot and he goes don't you realize this guy had close to a thousand goals you passed the puck back to him it's okay he's going to be fine but we I could see it at then when he was 14 or 15 how good he was and how much better he was than everyone else at that age but Sid's remarkable he's going to play I say the same thing you play as long as you want to play and make them tear that jersey off you because once you quit it's all done right people say to me all the time you missed the game I'm like of course I missed the game problem is I can't play the game or if I could play I'd be out there trust me yeah I thought by the way I think there's some teams that would love to have Wayne Gretzky for maybe one of these best seven you can give us one right you can give us one we'll put you just in the third period or whatever but yeah I everything you said there about Sidney obviously Pittsburgh people have like come to recognize so humble and the tear the jersey thing off he like really feels that way like he is committed fully to Pittsburgh because there's been a lot of talk about him maybe moving he's also a big time distributor you know that's a big portion of his game so when you talk about him being LeBron it might go back to when he was 14 his dad said hey when Wayno's on the ice he passed the fucking pocket okay what are we doing that's a hilarious thought that's a place and that's Sid's shape is it's all right let's make everybody funny it's funny because they said that there's that how would you know you were a goalie that's awesome to hear and that's the hockey culture it does feel like it feels like now a large majority of his game no no yeah yeah we have we have an influence in the game but let me tell you we're so proud of what we've accomplished in Canada but we should also be proud of how we're growing the game absolutely you know it's bigger now in Finland and Sweden and Czechoslovakia hopefully one day this war ends and we get the Russians back in international competition because there's some great players that come from there but the Americans of what the Hughes boys and the Tachucks have done for the game going back to guys like Brett Hall and Billy Garan the guys of what they did and Brian Leach and cellios you know we're so we're proud of our sport there's no no other way to say it we're very proud of our sport and if you look around there could have been 20 teams that could you could have said they could win the Stanley Cup this year and that comes from leadership and so our commissioner I think is one of the best in all the pro sports we have parody in our sport we don't know weak links there's no teams threatening to move or fold and our game is growing each and every year and that's the positive yeah and obviously you talk about Canadian influence in it all it is uh been fun to kind of watch the game grow to people that maybe had no idea what it was I think a lot of people were kind of just regionally kind of phased out but now that Florida's having success and Midwest teams are having success and Vegas obviously having success it's huge for the sport I think and obviously when Team USA you know yeah I know yeah but let me tell you no no you know you know that's a huge deal our women and our men win I mean that's a that's a huge deal for a sport for like parents for kids for everything it's like Jack Hughes becomes an immediate pop culture sensation it's huge for the sport you want three they want the paralympic goal too oh yeah I forgot we did have the clean sweep first time since uh I think ever maybe I think Rick Middleton was a big backer great NHL player for the Boston Bruins he's a big part of that whole culture and coaching that team somebody asked him on radio the other day I was listening to him about how did how did you go from being one of the worst teams to one of the best in the world he said we're playing Don Cherry hockey I'm thinking how do you play Don Cherry and sled hockey like I'm trying to figure that out but he's working he's getting gold medals yeah certainly is Don Cherry bringing it I guess in a pair it was fun to watch we had that uh the superstar yeah farmer huh what was his name Declan farmer yeah Declan I think believe was it we had a guy who was breaking all the records like six goals in the championship yeah I forget what it was one seven five yeah remarkable athletes remarkable athletes yeah and also awesome that it happened like hell yeah and they're dogs but I've run into uh some of the basketball teams uh the wheelchair basketball teams and you know sometimes people walk up to him and like I think like talk to him as if like something's bad I immediately walk up and talk shit to him they immediately fire back I mean it is an immediate like they're obviously very competitive and it's like getting a chance and have such good sports to be able to do a hockey basketball everything it's like sports you know we we had this lady who worked in the office in Edmonton for years and she was in a wheelchair and she came down to the locker room one day and she said Wayne I'm trying to organize this uh charity wheelchair basketball game against the national team we get three or four of the guys and we'll go play them I said of course so myself coffee Kevillow Messier and her that was our team we lost 48 to four and she got both baskets yeah they're physical too yeah you guys remained healthy okay that's incredible in the sport of hockey obviously growing in a big way has been for a long time there was an initial move you know you going from Canada to LA huge deal I think for the NHL and for the sport of hockey as a whole I mean you're a guy who came into the league won the MVP and then won seven more I believe one eight straight MVPs just coming into the league very good yeah kind of phenomenal yeah yeah kind of phenomenal so to get you more eyes potentially I don't know if that was an actual decision I was talked about behind the scenes or not but you go into LA big deal for the growth of hockey let's now fast forward to now can we talk about okay go ahead Wino well I was just gonna say let me say this when I went to LA I was a part of it but we had guys like Luke Robins and Kelly Rudy Marty McSorley they they understood where we fit in too they helped sell the sport and then I got really really lucky the timing couldn't have been better Messier was in New York with charisma and star quality and a great player hall of famer Stevie Eismar was in Detroit doing his thing and winning championships and Brett Hall was in St. Louis and Mario was in Pittsburgh each corner of the of the country had a guy who not only was a Hall of Fame player but understood his position and trying to sell the game and grow the sport so I caught away but the right time and we all pulled together and we all were a part of it well I appreciate the NHL having a forethought to do that and make that decision and the players that you just mentioned all legends and Hall of Famers understanding like hey we're working this thing like hey we are a league that we were trying to grow at this point we now have come at an interesting time here in 2026 with another Canadian superstar who I don't think a lot of the world gets to witness until playoffs and if their playoff run is kind of cut short it's like Connor McDavid being seen by people would be good for hockey and I'm not saying that it's not right now because obviously in the playoffs he is but that's a big conversation right now how do you kind of view it versus like him potentially coming somewhere else or maybe moving or maybe Austin Matthews coming what is your thoughts on players maybe moving for the good of sport maybe in league and also themselves obviously yeah I don't think the players think about that I honestly think they you know I look at Connor and I know talking with Connor he truly loves playing in Edmonton Austin Matthews I'm told likes playing in Toronto you know the world such a small world today right yes you can see every game on TV I don't think where you play now is a difference of selling the game or making the game bigger because the world is a smaller place my first two years in Edmonton I'll bet 40 of the 80 games weren't even on TV was on radio right the radio announcers were making more than the TV color commentators you should see this guy you can't you can't but this guy's unbelievable yeah that's a fun thought so I don't think where the player plays now is a big has a big thing to do with it now when there's voting that goes on not a lot of the East Ryder see guys are playing LA because the later games and guys in Vancouver and Edmonton that could hurt a little bit as far as voting for awards go but as far as selling the game it doesn't matter what city or now it's gonna sell all right well tell Connor if you talk to him he needs to be coming to Pittsburgh or Boston whoa whoa or Boston original city yeah I I think that's a conversation that you guys have with corner yourself no no don't throw us in that's whatever you I kind of like my statue in Edmonton I don't want to see it burnt down wait oh don't say shit don't let us ruin anything in the great ones life okay let's pivot to uh current series that are happening obviously tonight the Eastern Conference uh would drop puck in for the finals for the first time and the Kaniacs are back playing after a long layoff but last night felt like a gigantic surprise to a lot of people that the Vegas Golden Knights were able to get one and not just get one they look dominant early now avalanche were able to come back they were out with McCarr what is your thoughts on the Western Conference that happened last night and how do you think these two teams kind of match up well listen I I really like Colorado all year and one of the things I like about Colorado is they face some adversity during the season and they still finish first overall I'm not sure if you remember it a few years ago in Boston said that record and were on fire all year long and they had no adversity and all of a sudden they lost game seven to the Panthers so I like Colorado the fact that they face some adversity I don't like the fact that McCarr didn't play game one because now is he gonna play game two or not like taking him out of the lineup and the great Eric Johnson told you guys that's a big hole to fill and Eric does such a great job in analyzing I'm so happy for him but you don't replace Cal McCarr it's just as simple as that so am I surprised at Vegas no their veteran team they play properly they're unsolved for say play hard and they're getting great goal tending from Carter Hart good for him and so now Vegas and I said this when they won the Stanley Cup Jack Idle was a superstar in that playoff run and he's been good for them and solid for them this year also and so Vegas is going to be a tough out but Colorado is good yeah Colorado very good some are talking about maybe hey we might talk about this team is being the most talented or the best of all time then they lose on to Minnesota and it's like whoa carolina didn't lose me which we will certainly get to in a second it's seven games you know that's the thing about playoffs and Tom Brady and I were talking about this when we were watching the gold medal of game in Italy and Tom said you know the Super Bowl and the gold medal game anything could happen the best team usually wins in a four to seven series eventually the cream rises to the top right so if Colorado is just good as their record indicates they'll be fine but Vegas is going to be a tough battle yeah Vegas is going to be a tough battle especially with the new skipper go ahead Ty yeah way no what I think this happens in hockey maybe more so than other sports where a coaching change does happen you know maybe right before the playoffs like Vegas they're largely the same team but what is it about Torz that has kind of gotten Vegas to to play at another level because they do look like a much different team now that he is at the helm than they did before he was there I first of all let me say what what he's done is miraculous I mean it really is you go in with eight or nine games left in the season and you take over a team like that it's an older team a veteran team and you got to go in there in in hockey you earn respect from the players you don't buy it or they don't hand it to and he's earned the respect of his players you can see that on the bench I think he's really settled in and really enjoying coaching this hockey club and I think this is the happiest I've probably ever seen him on the bench since he won the Stanley Cup for Tampa Bay and over what five or six so you know it was the right call the right time and he's doing a tremendous job good for him so what is he he's a perfectionist just super accountable he can always find something that's miserable and fixable we have a lot of those coaches is that kind of his thing I think his thing was he was a big teacher to young players and this is a veteran team and I think he's taken a step back and said you know what I don't have to tell him how to do this or do that and I'm just saying this and seeing it from the outside like you guys I'm not in the inside by any means but that's what it looks like is that he's standing behind that bench and whether they're up one nothing or down one nothing his players get the feeling from him that he's still extremely positive and that they're in a good spot good for the lads over there and various they need it man I mean every team needs it and then let's pivot to tonight there's a rest versus rest conversation especially at one particular position go head tone yeah definitely wait let's talk about the rookie versus the vet in net tonight dobech the rookie from Montreal who's been incredible especially after a loss and then freddie anderson who's been in the league for 12 plus years how do you think the rest versus Russ at that position is going to be tonight and then as a goal scorer for you would you rather be facing a rookie or would you rather be facing a vet who maybe you know more and have like more tape on well first of all I'd probably rather face the rookie because everyone's human right and until you get in that position you're going to be a little bit nervous but good for him he's played it unbelievable I can't figure out this eight nine day rest thing because I happened a few times in my career where we had the eight days off and we took a couple days off and then practice and then there was a couple times where he skated the crap out of us I can remember all of us yelling we're going to go seven games the next series because we don't want to skate this much in practice so I don't I don't have the answer for that one right I think though what Carolina has to do is come out the first 10 minutes put their toes in the water just get comfortable again get back into that game mode because it doesn't matter how much you practice it's not the same feeling as a game they'll be okay they've got a veteran coach they've got a veteran team they just got to withstand the first 10 12 minutes Montreal they're going to be fine they're playing on high octane right now they're enthusiastic and their energy their best players are playing well and you can feel it you can feel it in the tv watching them that they're that they don't believe they can lose they they got beat eight three at home in game six and came back in one game seven and overtime in buffalo which I couldn't believe so Marty St. Louis did an incredible job Roddy Brittenmore he's done an incredible job this is what it's all about it's exciting for hockey and everybody's excited about it yeah Montréal is jacked on I mean we're going we're going there Sunday we got the F1 race as a bonus the F1 races in Montréal and Stanley our eastern conference finals game there race race Sunday game Monday Wednesday and I don't know if you know what just happened too um I'd like to say Bravo of victoire de Montréal plus Champignon they just won the PWHL I believe the Montréal cup well yeah that was my son I said did they mean that trophy after my dad he said no no guy ran the league I said oh okay all right so you got an answer for us I told all my friends that oh yeah yeah they needed it after my dad wait wait oh well whatever the case it might have Gretzky ties because the Montréal victoire who won that celebrating in a huge way away no I don't know if you saw this we're slamming beers out of this cup after winning the PWHL look at this slamming beers up there after beating Ottawa an all-canadian final up there for the PWHL all right it's a Molson arena I hope they're drinking Molson triple X's only I'll tell you what whenever we used to look at that I mean they're they they are getting oh yeah hey respect congratulations Montréal victoire okay now let's move to the Canadians and that environment that we got a chance to witness from home and hockey environments are awesome all over the place I think there'd be a lot of fans especially across the Canadian provinces that would say our barn's the best barn right now the Montréal barn is going to be showcased after Carolina I think it's the right one too the watch alongs filled arenas people going crazy what do you think people are about to learn about this Montréal fan base and how should this be up there and how should we expect it to kind of go for this run from f1 to game one game two of the finals Jesus it's it's remarkable isn't it it just shows you the passion that people have for the sport in our country I can remember playing in Edmonton and coming out after the warm-up for the first before the anthem and and the people standing in the stadium and cheering and clapping for minutes on minutes before they even started to play the national anthem and Montréal looks like the exact same thing it's just chaotic there these people live die breathe think hockey it's a national pastime obviously and you know they're a stored franchise they're up there with the Yankees and Montréal Canadians and they've waited a long time for this I think the last time they won the cup was in 1993 so these people are ecstatic and excited about it I I know I'm not going to go too far with biz we're just going to kind of sneak into the arena and sneak out so that's all I know yeah smart I love what biz has really built himself into in the hockey world I see that in commercials I see him in arenas I see players I mean biz is the right one for it all you guys are great over there thank you it's fun you know we got a great group I was saying this on one today you know we've been together four years I don't think we've ever had an argument Liam is at our quarterback he directs the traffic it's fun group it's a good group there's no egos we love the game we try to promote the game and it's just a lot of fun you know why there's no egos Wayne I don't know check them at the door because you're a f***ing there so that probably happens a lot with you if I had to guess yeah that's like no egos in the room that's like when I was with Peyton when I was with Peyton it's like everybody kind of drops their egos at the door whenever Peyton Manning walks in all of a sudden it's like oh okay yeah we're all kind of on the same level here and that's doing this one right here so uh I think that's because of their captain pal okay and I think it's because of you I think you've done a great job doing TV and I also appreciate the fact you give back to the game a lot I really do now you are forced to pay attention to the game I think you probably do that anyways but for TV you are I assume there are some thoughts in that competitor brain of yours Connor has a question for you yeah wait no Pat mentioned it earlier on like you having 61 records in the NHL when you retired is ridiculous and just going through them it's crazy but when you watch the game today I mean yeah look at this all-time leader points goals assist basically every single thing that actually matters playoffs included I think in these ones yeah yeah so there's just 200 point game uh seasons what was it for 200 point seasons the only guy to have one is Wayne Greski he did it four times but and this is probably very awkward for you to listen to now yeah but take it all wait no it is what it is sit there and take it all brother that's what you're doing okay all right sorry go ahead Connor but looking at the game now when you do watch do you have like a yeah I'd probably score 100 goals in the season if I were playing right now is there a team or a player you would want to play with it like Crosby you mentioned but McDavid even Celebrini now kind of seemingly the next guy for Canada what is your thoughts when you're watching and what do you think do you think you'd probably average three points game you know four or five goals I don't think like that but I tell you what I do think like how good these guys are and what a pleasure it would be to play with them and against them I when I'm watching a game I more look at the rules than I do the individual players so like Mario was a big big backer if he got rid of hooking and holding and hockey he basically said we got to get this out of the game and the commissioner agreed with him we've got hooking and holding out of the game they took out the red line I would have loved to have been able to play hockey without a red line my goodness how much fun that would have been but the athletes are better today so there's some things that I think I could benefit from and then there's other things well these guys are bigger faster stronger way better than we were in the 80s and 90s so no I just appreciate the game more than anything and I love watching it these kids are such great athletes but it's so it's it's like that in every sport right athletes are just getting better each and every year and it doesn't matter what sport it is it's not just the athletes I think the sports the strategies the techniques yeah you mentioned it the rules are changing yeah the whole sport kind of changes you know like yeah we look at I was gonna say look at Tom Brady I'm sure he would have loved to play in the era where you couldn't really run over the quarterback guys like Terry Bradshaw and Kenny Stabler they got killed back there but it's a different era right you can hit the quarterback but there's a certain amount you can't and I'm sure Tom would love to play in this game today if he was 22 years old hold on speaking of getting hit and everything like that when did okay were you first goon guy were you first goon guy in NHL or was there goon guy before you what does that mean I don't know you know what that means no I don't a protector yes sorry sorry I was just using a strictly movie reference yeah okay yeah I figured out halfway through the conversation but you know back in those days back in those days every team had one or two that was part of the deal like each team had their guy to protect their guy right and it was just part of the game and it was what was ironic about it was the real tough guys you didn't worry about because they were honest they didn't want like Dave Somenko didn't want to hurt Mario Lemieux Tim Hunter and Cowrie didn't want to run over me but it was the middle guy that you worried about that thought okay I can get away with this and that's why you had the tough guys because you eliminated those guys from getting those extra shots in right yeah and so that's why every team had one or two protectors and that's how that kind of all started yeah hey Kapo yeah you're ain't talking to him but okay they talk to each other you do not you do not travel up there they are okay that is a that is a great thing I think what they did with the game though after the lockout I believe they changed some of the rules kind of opened it up a little bit and then obviously they went a little bit aggressive on fighting to kind of change the I think they tried to change what the pace of the game was but now we're out of we're out of spot fighting still exists still a lot of physicality a lot of speed feels like we're at a great spot rules wise for a sport that is on the up and to the right I think I think the rules are fine it's a physical game it's a hard-nosed game the league and the players association did one great thing they didn't eliminate fighting okay and people say well you didn't fight anyway but you know we're the only sport where you got a lethal weapon in your hand and it's so but what the league did was you can't fight in youth hockey anymore you can't fight in college hockey you can't fight in junior hockey so all these guys coming up now they've never been in a fight oh my god whereas the Lord gives when we were pro yeah when we were pro hockey all those guys grew up fighting at 15, 17, 18 so we've pretty much eliminated fighting it's not in the game as much periodically it appears but all in all it's not in our sport anymore man those young guys just happening to stroll into one of those games just you don't even know about this move boom oh that's fun if you can't even that some of the experienced fighters in there it's very obvious I mean the grab right to here for the left jab just the constant and then the overhand timing and not spared to look like this either some people might be too much pride yeah and then yeah yeah I was in that life that I first year and one of my friends who didn't know much about hockey said is is fighting real I said well if it wasn't I'd be in more of them way no good luck the rest of the way through the playoffs thank you guys thank you for all your support have a great day are you all are you always wired head funds no okay okay I didn't know if you're always wired guy okay you're the bad ladies gentlemen Wayne Gretzky yeah way no that's like a thing yeah oh yeah oh yeah so some why people do that would probably yeah wired guy what a legend seriously just so humble he's a goat like an actual goat oh yeah and he's just like so damn humble Canadians how about him saying yeah that whole show everybody drops their ego at the door we have a good time in there it's like yeah Wayne everybody's dropping their ego at the door because uh you're the greatest ever do this and if you don't have an ego you see nobody else can really yeah and asshole at all in this entire thing what a legend dude I think you could still do it if you had to no doubt about no doubt about it I love the amount of respect that he showed to all the young guys to kind of passing the baton as opposed to burying the next generation just kind of acknowledging like hey these guys bigger strong faster into the game was crazy yeah I certainly love hockey but uh this is crazy game there this is just a different sport than what basically what he was saying this kind of what happens to every sport and some of the old legends hate it you know that some of them yell at the cloud in the front yard he has been very different the entire time through it all I mean he wanted to play with Sidney Crosby when he was 14 that was a crazy little story there that was so Nick did we know that had that been the first time we had heard that story I don't think I've I remembered ever here I've seen him talk about that before in other areas but it's still just surreal to hear that a player of that magnitude sees a 14 year old and goes yeah I get my gear I need to get out there and hit the ice with that guy let's see if all my records are gonna be okay or not let's find this out I wonder if he was on a constant search for that okay let's see got a youth game over here yeah I got a real guy let me get on here bring my gear that's incredible all right let's pay for from hockey to golf ladies and gentlemen something historic happened this past weekend at the pga championship in Philadelphia eronimink the course was beating everybody's ass even though the golfers thought that they were gonna potentially bode well it wasn't just the rough in the hits it was the greens that were kind of dominating nobody could really bury a putt par par par bogey would be an absolutely devastating play a birdie would be a wet dream for these guys as they were trying to battle for a major and as we watched sunday kind of unfold with about a hundred different golfers being available it was clear that one man was seemingly up to the task to battle against a course to become a major champion and that man had two gloves on and that man is the first english man to win the pga championship in a hundred in seven years from wolverhampton england ladies and gentlemen pga championship champion eron rye no gloves no gloves thank you for having me guys okay so it's not just all the time i didn't know if we're getting the hands ready all the time i appreciate seeing your hands good looking hands there a lot of conversation about the gloves those hands are now obviously pga championship champion congratulations eron legit thank you very much guys okay so tell me about it a little bit the course was beating everybody's ass felt like that was kind of the story of us watching the pga championship waking up sunday and now this was a little piece of information that we would learn later about you i guess you've been in a phenomenal putter since forever there's a lee west westwood world golf putter champion ten foot two 207 straight ten foot putts or something as a child okay putting is obviously the thing that everybody hopes they can do if you make two or three ten foot putts in a row you are pumped about yourself you made 207 as a child okay so then on sunday whenever you bury that long putt in the story it's like nobody can make anything are you always confident in the putter literally since you're a child did you know that it would show up for you it's just only a matter of time and then you bury the 68 and a half footer like what was kind of your thoughts on the greens and how the course was playing throughout yeah the course the course was really difficult i think it played harder than everyone had expected um because it wasn't long the greens were very sloppy but generally all back to front so not a huge amount of complexity compared to some modern courses um so we definitely caught everyone by surprise at just how hard part that it played with how thick the rough was um conditions were really called the first two days it was windy for most of the week and continued to get firmer over the weekend but i think it was just really testing in every aspect um and regarding the putting honestly speaking i was probably a better putter as a child um now i'm a little bit streaky sometimes have some some good weeks sometimes i have some very average weeks um last week fortunately was a really good one um but i was probably more more consistent but uh um back then than i am even now okay that's hilarious so obviously golf has been a part of your life we learned about the iron covers i believe that you're putting over top of it and the reasoning for it and your entire story you're 31 years old the gloves obviously were a gateway to a lot of people saying well this is different than what we have seen i as a punter in the nfl who every time i went on the field had to catch a ball i wore one glove like golfers usually do to help and assist in the catch but i wanted to be able to feel the ball okay whether i was holding or i was dropping it i wanted to be able to feel it and i it maybe was too much of a head case to think that i could feel it through the gloves i guess that's the big conversation right is whether or not you get a good feel you feel as if both gloves is a better feel how long have you been doing this and is this what i need to do to start being a better golfer so i started doing it probably since the age of eight or nine years old and it was originally just to keep my hands warm in the cold winter months in the uk and then by the time the following summer had rolled around i went back to wearing one glove but it just felt really strange and the grip in my in my other hand wasn't as good so then i just continued with two and stuck with it ever since but i think when when i think about it as well obviously there's there's more grip wearing two gloves rather than one the gloves are rain gloves so they're a little bit thicker than the traditional leather gloves that most people wear in golf but i think some of it probably shaped my swing over time but because i have more grip on the club there's less there's definitely less rotation so it feels like it's just a little more kind of stable and less handsy i think that's the way i swing the club anyway but i feel the gloves have definitely played a role in that it's not something i tried to create but i think it's something that has just happened a little bit over time interesting because i get a little handsy out there sometimes oh yeah you know you are your little handsy out there on echo i can ping pang you know and then i kind of duff it so maybe if i put two gloves on maybe it'll be a natural reaction from the nerves in my hands to my brain and to my golf swing to just go ahead and stay pure in that thing you know golf sales uh uh glove sales for both hands in the golf community went up i don't know 45 000 percent because of you you know that maybe 45 000 one percent with you now good call hell yeah lad hell yeah okay let's talk about you still having such a full pga tour career ahead go ahead tone yeah erin obviously winning the pga championship is huge for that single weekend but how big is it now for you know the next five years you're exempt into all majors you're now exempt into all signature elevated events i know before the pga championship you played in the myrtle beach event when there was an elevated event that same weekend so how big is that for your career now that you get to play in all those events and majors yeah it's great to be able to plan ahead um not even so much for the next five years but certainly for the rest of this season and going into next year um that's a position that i wasn't in going into into this year so that's um that's a massive thing um so yeah it's definitely it's definitely career changing in terms of just what it opens up and and the opportunities that are now there yeah and i think it just it indicates you're a made man brother yeah okay because some people obviously in our sport are chasing a super bowl forever in your sport it's chasing a major like some people will have that type of thing on their shoulders i assume it was on yours for a while as you were trying to do it but at a larger scale once you become certified this guy's won a major before congrats on that hey let's go that's a big deal that's a big deal erin like hey made man and now you're gonna thank you very much it's only it's only he's going to switch you next time with your in the chat but i understand but you you have obviously worked your ass off to get to this point to become a made man and uh we just showed the video of you celebrating with your wife afterwards and i believe that you two are on quite a run here this season you win the par three with her on the bag at august from my understanding of the masters uh she obviously hits an obsidianly pure stroke is she also a professional golfer i believe how much does that help actually how that has to help immensely that you two are in the same profession and do you view it that way how much do you try to keep golf away from you know every aspect of conversation almost we do a really good job at that she's she's been around the game a very long time but i think she has probably a more balanced perspective on life than than i do i think i'm definitely more tilted towards golf and i think that balance that she has and consistently reminds me of um helps golf not dominate our lives and it definitely doesn't dominate our conversations so i think she's she's away from the course um but naturally golf is is a really big part of our lives and we're traveling nearly every week as a result of it um that she again can put that hat on extremely well when it comes to advice when it comes to decisions um we practice a lot together back in jacksonville which is where we live so um there's just a really nice blend of life and golf that um yeah that goes into our partnership that's um yeah it's beautiful i'm so lucky uh sometimes i still can't quite get my head around um how how lucky i am to to find a woman like her man that was cute man hey that was awesome that was awesome good for you guys actually that is uh fantastic to hear and i would like to see either one of you try to go through a swing change you know and like uh they're being a fool i assume like hey you're doing a little different yeah i've been trying to work on a oh not a bad idea maybe i give that a go hey i just buried a 68 and a half foot but i think maybe we try this one out for a little bit for the good of the family i uh massive respect to you guys that's cool congrats to you i can't wait to see it continue to grow go ahead con man yeah erin i read somewhere that for celebration i believe you kind of balled out if you will at chipotle on uh sunday night not sure if that is true have you had a chance to maybe fill the wanton maker with beer a couple pints down at the pub have you have you been able to kind of pass that around the family by chance and how has there been a celebration or is it just kind of hey ron of the next one the one on the sunday evening there were a lot of commitments that followed um after finishing on the 18th um and we had a really nice dinner actually at the golf course which was which was great and a mini celebration there with um some of the pga guys my wife my caddy um we did make it to chipotle on monday on the following day so i really enjoyed that one um but outside there hasn't been a huge amount of celebration we we flew back to jacksonville a couple of days ago and just kind of got into some normality really my dad um flew over yesterday which is great um my my sponsor as well who's been like a second father to me flew out yesterday so i think we'll we'll do something together this weekend um but we'll we'll keep it pretty low key overall congrats the entire team i i don't want i maybe your dad brought the news over but wolverhampton soccer not good right now oh boy not good right now erin i don't know if you follow i don't know if you have a footy team if they are your team are they your team they're not my team but i live very close to the stadium i've i've kind of supported them uh but they've not been my my main team who's your team who's your team this season without Manchester United oh that's not the first time in 22 years it was a shit oh my god arsenal just first time 22 years getting the job done jeez little bit that's tough stuff you know wolverhampton going down i think burnley yeah i mean they're going down yep yeah football you like american football i haven't got into it since i've been over here um but i did promise on this sunday evening that i'm now an eagles fan so i'm gonna have to start cool that's a hey that's an interesting bunch to go ahead and choose to ride with i'll tell you they will accept you in there and that'll be a good one to kind of introduce you to football culture i think that'll be uh okay and they're good too a lot of drama though i don't a lot of drama around them i don't know if you're ready to sign up for that but there's going to be a lot of drama the head coach pizano fella awesome character i mean just an awesome care you're going to love it i think erin okay awesome i look forward to being part of the journey i'm gonna follow part of the journey i can't wait to hear how you describe that journey and also we can't wait to watch you a journey through golf you're the man congratulations thank you very much hey guys and thank you for having me next rider cup you're sick right you're not doing it let's not okay we need that if we lose the president's cup here this one against the world and then we lose another rider cup yeah right guys need to wear two gloves all of them that needs to be a part of the team usa costume is i need two gloves on all or change the name to erin rey and come on over come on over yeah live in jacksonville ladies and gentlemen that is pga championship major winner erin rey appreciate you which i do that with sydney too yeah uh-huh messy which i think louis still louis still potentially available joan bead i'm not a hundred percent sure who he's playing for this world cup guppy has it been decided if lou messy or lionel mess he's playing in this world cup lao messy yeah it's his last run with argentina this is it he did change so we got so next one is playing for us okay did you hear he changed his name what's that go ahead go lao messy if you're calling him messy on apple tv when he's playing it's lao messy it's not lionel it has to be lao messy okay well i didn't know that in my own yeah it's not apple t it's that's more for twelterman taylor twelterman has to say lao messy we like taylor twelter yeah double t one of the greatest new england revolution player he's gonna be on a call i assume for a lot of these world cup games do we know who's gonna be on call yeah he's involved they got james doing some cool stuff uh you know the grow the game for sure if it's not ian docka i will be watching ian's in the mix there's latins actually on fog i heard jerry jones is building shades and blinds to cover the sun but won't do it for football games yeah i heard some of these stadiums are putting grass fields in here for soccer they won't do football thames oh all the greats are calling it for oh yeah we're good we're a good spot for now on that note i do think the grass that they're laying would not be good for ball and i think uh the sun and the thing maybe they do try to fix that yeah they should especially for good news for soccer yeah come on ian dock is with land and donovan that'll be the eighth england's taking on croatia in jerry world i believe to kick off the entire world cup there will be no shadows because we need to see the ball in a pitch that's right how about football jerry how about land man jerry how about pickets we'll be back on the other side great hour two waiting there can't wait the espn app it's all the espn all in one place sign up or activate now store are the opposite of greatest we're incredibly lucky that we get a chance to chat about them every single day because you watch this stupid ass show that isn't just me it's also the talks at table at boston connor and at thai schmidt one half of the hammer god cowboys ap tonus here and joining us live from an attic in ohio is a man who might be able to give us a little bit more clarity on what was said yesterday in pittsburgh pennsylvania from erin rogers this guy was a super old champion alongside erin rogers for the green bay packers where he's also the all-time leading tackler for that storied franchise he'd go on to win a rider cup duel in which team usa would lose to europe but he is a rider cup winner and he would go on to father a hundred kids wow ladies and gentlemen former president of the state of ohio aj hawk wow man got me jacked up there so many accomplishments yep what an intro you're right i did win my uh my match with rob riggo and the rider cup and our team fell short unfortunately through european yes you're a rider cup winner yeah you know you're not a champion you are what you could have been but you are a winner you want to know about a champion okay you want to know about a superstar you want to know about one of your best friends saying something pretty big in history in the animals of football erin rogers said this is it mark kaboley asked the question who is a uh steelers goat analyst for our show yeah correspondent that's the word that's what i'm corresponding we know that he is goat though all these things that we talked about it he is correspondent for our show for the pittsburgh steelers mark kaboley with the question erin rogers with the massive in answer be your last year do you even think of that right now yes this is it yeah let's go back to the beginning let's run kaboley back let's see just listen to the question and how it is asked forcing erin to answer this is good journalism and do you believe uh this could be your last year do you even think of that right now yes this is it yeah go follow of this it's gonna be your last year huh kaboley kind of in distant thought wow can't believe he gave me an answer there he did though he said this is going to be it now i don't think he is expecting a celebration tour around the nfl for his final season that does take a trip to bonjour sa va paris france which obviously steelers fans are not exactly thrilled about but if this is the last year that means he believes there's a chance to go win this damn thing there's no other reason to do this unless he thinks they have a chance to win defense great right we assume defense is going to be great could be on the offensive side of the ball we got a lot of playmakers if the offensive line isn't ass and mike mccarthy's offense does hit mike mccarthy wins everywhere he goes we're watching him coach things up and you see the assistant coaches these are all people that he's worked with in the past it's like mike mccarthy has a system for whatever reason it does win games okay mike tommy also has well different system than the way mike mccarthy has done it at green bay also at dalis the guy was winning 12 games a year at dalis okay now granted dalis had a great roster but then they get to the playoffs it all shit to bed okay now will that change with the pittsburgh steelers because they have a great defense well mike mccarthy's offensive systems make them great and erin rogers who i think is probably still feeling good throwing the ball i don't think i saw any drop other than like you know he probably can't do the same thing but he threw a deep 60 yard ball i think last year 65 oh yeah 69 yards i think it was i think it was the longest ball in the air yeah longest travel football in the so yeah so i guess he has found himself who knows who he was talking with it could have been moon stars and they could have hit him in the eyes and he could have looked in him here and gone in a hole or he any way he got to the answer that he got to i think this bodes very well for how steelers fans should view how the team is feeling about this they are trying to run there's a lot of experience on that team there's a lot of winning on that team there's a lot of history on that team and it feels like erin signing up to go on a run and he was there day one of voluntary ota so everything seems to be great and uh the celebration maybe the send-off years of pittsburgh steeler getting seven ton digs i can already see the zipper burn power from here yeah it'd be so awesome uh it's very optimistic right now all the coaches are saying right now all the right things you know the people that were uh super bummed that they hired mike mccarthy everything that he's done since then i'm he's won over he's won over the city already uh some moves that he's made on the offensive line already people are very very pumped about bringing in uh everyone that they brought in during the draft everyone's pumped about so the optimism is very high bringing erin back everyone knew that erin as far as you know whether erin came back or not he was the best option to win football games everyone was just upset that he didn't decide earlier which you know very very understandable but as of right now as of today optimism is through the roof you hear what people are calling you on online what's that they're calling you we we monsoor hey and it's not it's not oh it's not oh you why it was we we like a penis we we and monsoor isn't even spelled right so tony dijon that low for bread either don't want people to you know i'm sure there was other options you who started this and actually i just thought i'd need to block him was uh mcquade it was mcquade mcquade yeah mcquade was the first person to bring that picture to me i should have known that because it did have it it involved europe so mcquade yeah wait what's that lot who said football he is our ambassador it feels like of sport for europe that's how we learn everything i need to block him right now mcquade's getting blocked you that's a mcquade you will curse your team's season if you do that mcquade has done a lot of good for a ball he has mcquade has done not for me though he brought football to ireland just kidding he actually did chaperone us a bit in ireland he did he's just taking a piss lot come on have a crack one time don't see we're pretty international show even though you oh yeah that was mcquade that was mcquade wow that was my friend he did kind of introduce me to the bray which i kind of might start yeah you and judge revolta yeah absolutely right now i did actually order one he did that is exactly what revolta looks put some glasses on this guy revolta had those little roundies on when he's aligned your beard up a little more yeah his beard was a little crispier yeah no half measures from mcquade though i mean what a beautiful you know like if he's gonna do it he's gonna do it yeah it looks like you're actually on the chants of lysee it does coach digs is not happy seeing this no he's not no son of mine holding a bag in front of the rifle and parry hilarious i don't know if you're gonna be welcome back into the botchy league pal i think you need to go ahead and face your fear definitely not one game i've never been hit how come we can't get in that week can we can we compete in a super duper italian botchy you can probably get in if you want i won't thank you i'll start wearing a pink earring that's my that's my dad's thing i don't need to follow in his footsteps you should think about it coach's footsteps are really cool my brother's it my brother's in it it's it's a family thing be an honor to skip the generation yeah you do whatever you drive the six hours every thursday okay so aj what do you think though about erin saying uh something about that if the botchy's good they got good courts over there except for they were using that kind of shady rocky one where we didn't like in the finals the pepperones i believe we're doing it from over there in pent hills i don't like crying from the fighting deez yeah well i don't know if that's our name anymore because yeah well actually i think it is they said it's 2026 they were who's up we're all set you guys are allowed to sit and then i said well can i say everybody oh easy uh don't you be sad easy how am i supposed to promote the team if i can't say the name don't say the name that's how you're promoting the team grazie there you go and we move on but on that note speaking of moving on aj this is a big deal for marin that means that's what he was trying to decide this entire time he was trying to figure out whether or not he wanted to play and then he was like well i could definitely do one more run at this thing do you think that's a combo or do you think the convo was introduced like hey how about a couple years here so we can plan ahead maybe uh so it isn't just like a wasted year of development for somebody in will howard or maybe in drew aller maybe it is like a two-year plan and then we do the handoff to drew aller who's potentially going to need a lot of development whenever it comes to just becoming a quarterback even though that could happen quickly especially with how mike mccarthy is as a quarterback coach so we're not saying that isn't the case but one more year this is a very um this is the first time he's been this direct about it i think he's been very kind of uh gray about it in the past with us with everybody else and everybody's kind of just assumed that that meant that he was going to be done after a year much like whatever he said he was immunized you know sure and everybody just assumed that that thing and he felt like checkmate actually and he is also one celebrity jeopardy so he has there is a especially aminus went mean a way to go mean by the way represent sports over there mean represent sports over there mean a hell yeah good win erin has won before and has great stories coming out of that that feels like a match up you think a face off if you will oh you mean celebrity jeopardy contest tournament champion but that would come in retirement okay that would come in retirement so in retirement which is allegedly after this year that feels like a concentrated decision made by erin does it not feel like that whenever he says that just with how quickly he answered to quiboli as well feels like that it was the big thinking point all off season while he was trying to decide what the hell he wanted to do you think yeah i think it's uh yeah for sure but i would imagine they're taking everything like a one day oh no oh hawk oh oh what happened i thought you would take a drink there for a second it was over throttle with me your bees yeah who knows dude yeah the bees are in the water in the wires i didn't think about the feral swarm of bees that could be out there running rough shot because you didn't get them enough honey last night you've kind of welcomed an enemy in here you've kind of welcomed an enemy in here we will never know what is the bees what is not the bees whenever it comes to connectivity because they're buzzing around your entire damn house because they've decided that your beehive right now is the most uh fruitful the most delicious the best looking those things are getting ready to leave your ass if we know anything about these bees in our short relationship is that not an accurate depiction of your relationship with them it could be over at any time as soon as you slip up they're leaving and they're gonna probably take down your internet while they're doing it because these things are smart is that not right aj that's not right but i do i respect the fact that they will get up and leave i'm not giving them what they need so no question these guys are their battle tests that we had like 12 hours worth of thunderstorms and everything going on check down this morning they are doing well they seem to be doing great and i cannot wait to open that thing up five or six days and go check it out but uh as far as erin goes don't you think it's a good thing as far as like we always talk about coaches there needs to be like a sense of urgency every single day sense of urgency i think when erin is there and when you know hey he says this is last year you have every coach on that staff and every player on the staff thinking like hey like we need this is it we need to go all in this year because after the season we don't really know what any of our future holds so let's do whatever we can why we have a guy like erin on the team so i think it can only be a positive and how about all the reports that every player on their exit meeting said they wanted erin back if they were to have erin back with if tondland without tondland they would want erin back that that was an interesting little piece of information that adam schifter shared that was certainly told to adam schifter from within the building hey we would like you to know that every player that we talked to that has any importance is like yes we think erin is not a part of the problem he could definitely help us win whatever it is that felt like a big deal that omar con was taken into account the relationship with mike mccarthy obviously happening the way that it is not only mike mccarthy's relationship with pittsburgh but obviously his relationship with erin erin understanding the offense what mike's looking for what a jump start on kind of a transfer of mindset in pittsburgh steelers if you're able to get the quarterback on the same exact page as the head coach so it feels like a very interesting dynamic that kind of came together with the ingredients of potential magic or a delay in a restart which is what yinzers were kind of pissed off about to begin with yeah i mean we'll see i like that whole thing is let's just win let's try to win football games at this point um but yeah as far as the exit meeting someone told us that months ago i can't remember who it was um but yeah they were very adamant on the exit meetings like hey we want erin back he gives us the best chance to win all right let's pivot away from erin rogers congrats erin that had to be that's the most clear i've ever seen him about his future he's finally like for anything yeah like actually a lot of people were saying because of the massive amount of respect he has for kaboley as well we know that duh and the massive amount of loads did you see the a lot of people said uh counter asked the same question last year and he gave the same answer so really a lot of people were saying i didn't go back to look but well he's always alluded to things that's what i'm saying this is the most definitive shit we've heard from erin roger i think just as somebody that got a chance to talk to him every week there for a while during seasons not that i i do not claim to know how erin feels about anything okay i i i am just as intrigued as the rest of the world but i am a huge fan of erin rogers just everything how he goes about his life what are you asked about but i think this is the most clarity i've i've heard from him projecting a year from now since i've known him like in everything no yeah i know i would have gone he was going to the rainforest for a while yes then he went into a hole there for a while okay then he was going to new york then are you going to new york then he went to new york then he was kicked out of new york and then he goes you know like there's just been it's been pretty much chaos there's been really no what is next what is next feels like for the first time we got like an actual answer go ahead he did he did give himself an out uh he said i'm pretty sure this is my last exactly that's why we did a one-year deal that's what i'm saying you he's saying he's gonna listen i'm immunized hold the phone what's that what does that mean you know that that is how erin you know like that is literally from the beginning and a lot of people got really mad at him for that okay he would say can we revisit the topic and have a conversation now okay that would that would be a very different thing but he is always operated in his own way he's always done his own thing and he's never really locked in them saying him saying like this is it too kaboly okay good luck out there erin happy for you dude he also said yesterday that when tomlin stepped down that that was a very emotional day and that he had thought that he was done big like big mic comes in and that kind of changed some things and then they were able to have those conversations and that kind of reinvigorated big mic's irresistible uh true he is undeniable yeah now him and coach car because you see what they did down lsu lane was like bring back the mascot yes obviously we got the tiger bring back the living breathing goat doggers bring him back in he could do something yeah defensive recruiting right to have you back here go ahead yeah so we'd love to have you around of of course if mike McCarthy was to offer bill car one of these types of positions pit yinzer that they the mass climax from the volcano would just right out from the point right where there's three it would become a lake it'd become a lake right there should there would no longer be a point big geyser it would be it would be a big lake as everything they came in science center sorry i think they'd be end up being a part of the yeah the explosion there good luck to the Steelers fans they're on quite a ride right now hey everybody loves us because the draft we break all the records and roger doesn't want to play for us now you gotta talk to this right you're in ours or a hotel room for fucking nana it's been like this now you got a chance to go on a run i know not all yinzers are excited about it uh and being erin but as soon as the season comes around they start winning some games that offense looks anywhere near what a mike mccarthy offense looks like and a defense can play at all in a brand new a of c north i mean the run could be sweet for them are they gonna be able to beat the indianapolis Colts with daniel jones i won't see we'll see let's get a little wait what's that with who daniel jones he's a okay okay we'll see i didn't add you in so i don't know yeah achilles don't just heal overnight okay i'll jason tell you don't know joining us now ladies and gentlemen is from the mba world friend of the program one of the funniest dudes we have seen the other night after watching wendy go absolutely crazy in game one of the western conference finals he got on tv immediately and said him and his wife were talking about getting his kids two damn monks ladies and gentlemen kendrick parkes yeah i mean y'all don't want to take a trip down there to go visit the monks they said he was dribbling four and a half uh hours on a seven and a half hour trail over suspension bridges dribbling a basketball with these monks in the offseason perk well i don't want to do that but i do want to go and do the other stuff sure i mean i i want to get my mentality right i want to get my my mental right you want to do a lot of the temple stuff with the yeah yeah yeah when it comes to being athletic and doing the activities i'm cool on all that you know i mean but i the internal side of me i need to go get healed well i think a big part of them is like deep in mountains up a lot of hills or stairs you you're saying chopper to the top i need the brain stuff not the body stuff yeah yeah for sure i'm at that point in my life i think they'll understand that yeah i think the monks i think the monks would be pretty cool with that especially with your kids but let's talk about wendy and let's talk about what's going on in the west last night a lot of people calling for unethical hoops happening okay a lot of unethical hoops people are saying and now you add in hartenstein kind of coming in there roughing up one beyond no no not only do you got the flopping on the one side you got the bullying on the other side and then you talk about just an entire team that is uh reigning champs back to back mvp in a national narrative that is happening quickly at least on the internet we assume the indicate uh internet indicates a little bit about society people hate watching this team what are your thoughts on the western conference and how this oklahoma city team goes about doing what they do well i mean they're the champs and in order to beat the champs you have to beat the champs right and so look again wendy is something that we've never seen before and he had to expect coming into that game last night that the thunder was going to junk it up right he had to expect it uh again in some areas that we do have to clean up we talked about this i believe it was about 10 days ago about we have we do have a flopping problem right in the nba we have that but okc has established themselves over the last two years as a team defensively that is going to play with a different level of physicality and so as an official coming into those coming into those into the games knowing that this team is going to be physical they're going to play with a lot of activity for us the flexions and isael hardstein was a star in this role that was arguably in my opinion his best game of his postseason career he did some stuff that a pacer's last year that's obviously how we get introduced to him quickly over here but do you think this came about him saying to degs hey i'll do it i'll be the one that'll go do wendy or whatever because a lot of the xmba guys were saying that chet needs to say i'll take that guy like a lot of xmba players were saying that was the case because obviously the matchup in game one was not all the time on chat it was a lot on caruso was finding himself guarding went me a lot do you think hartenstein came on said i'll be the guy i'll go in there and do it and they thought it was a no lose situation because if he fouls we got chet still yeah well if he fouls you still got jaylen williams coming in off the bench and i thought check i mean azeal hardstein came with and into the game with the mindset of i got six fouls and i'm willing to use all of them like we got to go out swinging by the way i'm to the point now where i've called out chet plenty of times over the last since this series started and he don't want that smoke he don't want this smoke with you i want no he don't want that smoke with wendy oh yeah he he don't want he don't want that action he don't want that action and people's like well perk he can't just he can't just go in and just tell the coach he wants to you know go away from the game playing i'm like the hell if he can't i play with paul pierce when we play lebron james in the semifinals and his assignment wasn't uh lebron james defensively but defensively but i watched paul pierce coming to the huddle in the fourth quarter and say no doc i got him i watched paul pierce in the in the finals the truth so tell doc rivers that hey no tony allen you don't have a number i got cold like you that's what greats do if you really want the smoke and at the end of the day you live with the results but i'm not seeing that energy from chet home grid okay and if you're not going to give me that energy defensively i believe that jaylen williams is out we haven't heard the reports from soms yet but when you think about him hurting at his hamstring again i believe that he's going to be out okay now we're looking at who's the second best player offensively for the okloma city thunson karyso yep no i will say karyso been balled by the way but and i'm gonna get to him in a second chet was an all star this year okay chet has to he has to raise his level of play offensively right now he's somewhat displaying of what jaylen durin was doing in the in the playoffs for the detroit pistons eight 13 points that ain't gonna cut the mustard but let me say this real quick alice caruso the way that he's playing right now he's entering the conversation of top five greatest role players to ever play the game of basketball real talk all right so have you done the other four already do you have a top five well i know robid or is number one thanks robid or is number one i'm gonna tell you that and you got guys like derrick fisher who i believe has what five championships ray allen ray allen not a role player pat he's not a role with the brawn he was but he was just three points i mean he monitored nobile but ray was not the guy you're saying he's one of the stars of the so role play not star of team even though i have specific role okay so just can you describe role player to me from basketball sport because i see ray sitting there like this and i see it following it and i'm like that i'll fucker that role nailed it like role players never have a chance to like make all star games right role players are guys that come in and know that are pieces to the puzzle for us helping you win the championship but it's like all of a sudden when uh i wouldn't go that far i wouldn't go that far i definitely wouldn't go that far i would i would think like along the lines of it for example you would watch a guy like derrick fisher in the regular season and he would look like one of the worst point guards in the league and then all of a sudden when the playoffs come yeah he would look like a top five point guard in the league like his points per game will go from like eight points to 16 points and that's what i'm saying like alex caruso is a guy that you don't hear from him in the regular season too much yeah he cruised and he's still being a star defense of stopper a high motor guy and then all of a sudden he hit this switch and yes we've been seeing him average 24 points in these in these first two games in his western conference but i always go back to last year semi-finals game seven against yokich and it wasn't wimby it wasn't azeal hortenstein it was alex caruso that was guarding yokich that was forcing him to turn over the ball that was getting defensive stops this man eight look he's one championship away a crack a crack in that top five okay so we got robert orie darik fisher yep uh batting y'all today another two mike miller batty a yeah i like mike miller uh make you know what we might have put you done this haslam in there yes you did you did what about brood what about brood felon bill wennington i'm not bill who the wedding did we talk about you know it's bill wennington gee hi we're not going to look long lay what no no you you gotta have championships bill wennington's got five of them excuse me no no no no no no we we might have to like coach i will put steve curin no big baby davis how about danie green i like that yeah great one i like that i like that i definitely thought of that i definitely thought of that not bruce right there just saying hey danie green would be a winner also espn guy awesome hey pat choms that was great that was great right yeah we're trying to hoops out here i like that i like that we're trying to do the hoops uh okay let's pivot to the hoops you know there's a lot of people you've been kind of taking shots at okay over this basket uh playoff run and people you've been called me yeah well and complimenting you know there's been there hasn't been a lot of conversation by your compliments there's certainly a lot of conversation about the things that you say negatively about somebody that potentially becomes motivation for them to show up in a massive way uh you said you were wondering if james hartons heart was pumping blood cool like that's what you said in that that next game he came out i think he had 30 some he went crazy you look like james harden it was an entire thing and then there was a what chatter type conversation it's very loud about james harden seemingly every single night that the cleven cavaliers play how do we feel about what's going to take place in game two here a 22 point kind of collapse is obviously heartbreaking do we think the cleveland has a shot what are your thoughts about how this kind of works out well for for james harden he's been horrible over the last three games he was horrible in game six of last series he was horrible in game seven of last series and he was horrible in game one and here we are again different series same story game one more turnovers than made field goals okay so he's not giving you nothing offensively and then outside of that big brady brunson was tearing his ass up seven of seven for eight in four in the four quarter and overtime when james harden was defending him and on top of that mike brown comes out and says it's no secret we're searching out james harden and then kenny ackerson has the audacity and looks into the the camera and tells a bold face line says oh your james harden has been one of our best defenders and i'm saying what do you understand that this is a national televised game do you understand that we could see this with our own two eyes he's in madison square garden on the biggest stage and i'm gonna tell you this kenny ackerson really needs to be careful on how much he protects james harden because at this point he's protecting james harden more so than he is actually coaching because you got to do what's best for the team at this point in the postseason it's about facts over feelings i don't have you don't have time to cater to one person you got to find ways to win games you have denise shrewd over there who is drooling at the mouth to get some of that action that jaylen brunson defensively who is known as a defensive pass who is known as a instigator and not a retaliator look at this jaylen brunson just in his bag he knew it like oh yeah we got james harden let me cook 21 times allegedly they were in a pick and roll to get james harden isolated there and then every single time obviously it would go on to become one of the most historic comebacks in playoff histories especially at madison square garden as the place comes completely alive and the coach atkinson thing i'm happy you brought that up because we had some questions as well and then we just assumed that he was gassing up james harden like he was letting him know and then now the messaging seemingly coming out from the cavaliers is hey he was three and a half good court hey three quarters a great basketball we crush him that's what they're kind of is he a super positive guy is he like uh hey this will keep james harden engaged if i continue to publicly uh like kind of get his back because kendrick perkins is on air saying this guy's got cool a bumping through his heart and he can't do it do you think he's maybe going to bat for his guy and is that how james harden responds best like what are your kind of thoughts of his strategy here seemingly which it certainly is because we all saw the same thing or is he playing the politics game which one is it what do you mean by that is it but is it is it because is it because they verbally agree that they're going to give james harden the contract extension is it coming from the top or is it coming from kenny ackerson if it's about winning basketball then at some point do you know how many times by the way kenny ackerson went home with a whole lot of timeouts in that game that he could have called to stop the bleeding kenny ackerson also could have called the whole lot of timeouts to substance the substitute defense for offense did kenny ackerson do that absolutely not he continued to let the nicks do with the head whatever they wanted to do get isolation made no type of adjustments donovan mitru i believe shot the ball maybe twice if i'm correct or didn't touch didn't take a shot after the eight minute mark like eight minutes and 32 seconds left in the game i don't believe he took a shot he didn't take a shot he's got an array of ways to score too i mean here oh there we go there we go yeah here is what is it miss miss miss yeah but he didn't have the ball in his hands enough donovan mitru is still the number one option and past it is he is he not well he is in our eyes he is he's also from the area i mean and now there's they're showing stats about donovan mitru that not good perk what you mean this one right here i don't even want to read it because if people can hear i don't think they should be able to hear put it there at an airport or cafe they can certainly see that's a terrible stat that is a that is a terrible that nobody wants that stat especially in the big time games especially a guy who is in a city obviously that's all the brawn james who is still playing be able to do what he was able to do there that is kind of the weight that spyta has as a cleven cavalier they're talking about this first time in his career he's gotten as far as the first time this boston indiana heartbreak heartbreak cleven cavalier's fans still showing up expecting greatness now he's hearing that happens for game one oh jesus you know what i you know what i didn't see from the calves during that run during that time they was fold folding like lawn chairs i didn't i didn't see leadership i didn't see leadership on the floor and i didn't see leadership on the sideline did anybody saw any type of communication no i anybody saw anybody somebody trying to rally the troops together and having a quick meeting uh doing dead balls or free throws that anybody did we see any type of energy we saw it from the nicks we saw it from jaylin bros there go right there we saw look that that's that's what togetherness look like that's what that's what a true leader look like right there not just going out there and busting their behinds on the floor but look at that yeah i'm pouring it to my guys i'm pouring it to my guys coach you don't even have to say nothing i got this now speaking of coach saying something seems like he's got chomping chip pedigree as well he was trying to get the time out actually at the very end he was on top of it through and through he's been there done that aj has a question about the other side of coach yeah perk what do you what do you think coach mike brown obviously he's he's jumping up i i believe he popped a caffeine's where he may have almost torn his Achilles because i can have any kind of impact here moving forward in game two and also like a second part of that what are you supposed to do if you're the nicks when you have that or you're that far behind i'm sorry i'm talking about playing with a lead i just got i got all kind of discombobulated on you perk what just happened what happened i may just had a stroke i was going to jump back you want to know why i'm so pissed off about this hartinstein situation going back to the other game are you able to send in i don't want to ask that question about mike brown are you able to send in clips you know in the nfl part you can send it say you lose again or say a game happens head coach sends in clips to the referees to the league saying hey watch this we feel like you missed this can can mitch send these clips in of hartinstein grabbing wemby's arm and doing all this and i'll do you think the officiating changes next game i like what i like what i like that and i'm pretty sure that the spurs being the first class organization that they are being one of the best organizations in sports that they already those clips were sent in right after the game to be honest which if not doing the game those clips will be sent in and guess what azeal hartinstein sorry to tell you brother but you're not going to be able to get away with that in game three yeah you think there's gonna be an adjustment done you think there's gonna be an adjustment i wouldn't say an adjustment but i mean listen they're gonna the officials are going to come into the game and they're gonna watch that matchup they're gonna keep a close eye on that matchup they're gonna allow them to be physical but i guarantee you they're going to set the tone early if any of this happens throughout the course of the game i mean at the start of the game hey the officiating is always a convo with alclay mc city is that always how it's gonna be with the top teams is that always gonna be the case i will say this now azeal hartinstein you have to be prepared because you are now the villain going into san Antonio you need to be prepared to get boob but i'm not mad at him i look i was a guy that actually did this you know how much film they probably you know how many people snitched on me throughout the course of my throughout the course of my nba career i mean i played that way seriously i mean you got to junk the game up but he won't be he won't be able to get uh get away with that game i love that we got wendy battling through we're watching him like battle through things in real time like all right now you got a goon on he's strictly just out here one thing though don't you think one thing is being physical pushing around not let him get towards who but hooking the arm and like almost just looking at elbow that's what i feel like i can't believe that was a cold mar yeah well there's but go ahead park yeah but but aj you you know like like when you're a big man i look at it like offensive linemen and defensive linemen like you go you and the trenches like let's not act like in the nfl it's not some things that go on when you in the trenches let's not act like when the running back gets how cold and it's a power of guys it's not some stuff that's going on in in in that power you know i'm saying you in the trenches well i think i think the fact that he's so thin okay so we've seen really tall thin guys before and i don't think there's ever been as much banging allowed because they are like shooters right so like kind of get treated differently he gets treated like a big big man down there with the refs and how he bangs down there i don't think that is just natural for us as a viewer to see because of how thin he is but it's like old school basketball whenever he's down there obviously last night certainly but the amount of i mean that's why his arms all kind of scarred up that's why he elbowed that guy in the thing because he gets hit a lot and usually very thin basketball players just from my perspective are shooters so any contact at all is normally a call it feels like he very rarely is getting any and there's a lot of contact happening in basketball feels like that's why he went down there with the monks to be prepared for stuff like this he's seven five this is just the start of what's about to happen to win me and going forward guys have no choice but to try to junk up the game guys has no they have no choice but to try to get inside his head and play with a different level of physicality but the spurs i guarantee you they sent the film in coming in going into game three the officials will keep a close eye out on that situation you're not gonna tell tiny brothers what to call no you hold on okay yeah we all we all know that do we know who's ref in tonight do we have the crew name for this evening that matters right how they call they all call the game differently or they all try to call it similarly what is the ref no i think when you have guys like tony brothers and scott foster as a player you just know it's zero tolerance when i say zero tolerance is like you know you can't approach them they're going to take control you got to stay in the moment there's no complaining like it's it's one of them moments right when you have a veteran crew it's zero tolerance like in these moments though you want a veteran crew because you want a crew that has experience that's not going to overreact you know to the fair base the loud environment right that's going to stay in the moment and also then it's not starstruck right you want those guys who are going to call the same calls on on the superstars that they would do on role players i think wendy's people are saying let's do a little bit more of that let's do a little bit more of the proper calls obviously oklahoma city wins the free throw battle last night a lot of people saying it's because of flopping wendy almost got in foul trouble had to review two of them early against him clean block on chet just putting a roof on them basically just do one of these on that and then obviously the other play gets clear there uh special time for basketball feels like and are we at the uh end of an era so many different thoughts about what's happening with brawn james go ahead con man yeah park it's kind of circulating that lebron could if he were to leave la take a vet men or some sort of 15 million dollar one year deal two year deal and you know go somewhere else and a lot of people have kind of thought hey lebron if he does leave could go to a cleveland kind of go back home help them get over the hump what do you think about lebron i know that you feel pretty bullish about him possibly joining the clippers so maybe we see him over there or do you think he's just going to end up going back to likeers i actually think the i actually think brawn if it's look if it's brawn last year i would love to see brawn in new york in the next uniform if it's his last year can you imagine the money that's going to be made can you imagine how much money the nba is going to make even if he goes to the nicks on a vet minimum you know how much money he's going to make outside of basketball like like that would be that would be so legendary but again we don't know was we don't know what's next for brawn i would love to see him really go back home where it all started it right again men lebron we go back like four flats on the catalep we go all the way back to middle school days when we were going in it when he was playing for the ohio shooting stars and i was playing for the houston hoops right to us teaming up and playing for the oakland soldiers together uh you know an au basketball to us playing the mcdonald's all-american game in cleveland him winning nvp the dark contest so again i just would like for him to go back where it all started i think it would be a perfect ending and on top of that he would actually have he would actually have a chance to to go out to actually have a legit shot at winning the nba championship on his way out i don't think lebron james retire after next year to be honest i think he got two or three more years left in the tank okay so two or three more years it would be nice to see him play in a place where you know he's already dawned the jersey your cell for the new york nick sounds like that's your dream location uh but then you also know you also said i would like it to be cleveland you kind of were saying new york would be sick if you think about him and madison square garden jaylen brunson they got the entire team obviously his relationship with a lot of big time figures in new york is gigantic him playing for the nicks huge for the history of the game and also playing for the lakers he would be everywhere him and ben stiller i mean we're talking old school sprite commercials with the bron coming all the way back being directed by dr stele yeah action bronson's obviously uh putting out an entire new album and movie about it yeah that's what you you had a lot of thoughts about that then you were like but if you really want to know where i think it is cleveland would be nice i appreciate what you did there i appreciate what you did there i had i had a i had a aj moment uh you're the best berk you want to pick tonight's game or no i got the nicks okay i got the nicks you you ask me if i if i trust what i'm so hardening how how much my tear what about the hockey yeah what about hockey game yeah big one canadians canes tonight in carolina obviously the canes what's the what's the series uh it's his first game the carolina hurricanes have not lost in the playoffs yet the canadians just got out of a seven game series with the buffalo sabers this is the first game go ahead when was the seven when did the seven game series is three days ago i'm gonna go with i'm gonna go with the canadians wow like that hurt okay perth they're saying carolina's got a tough barn but waiting till you have you watched any of these games at all perk you want me to be honest with you yes pat i hadn't had the chance man yeah i've been working i've been listening i've been flying i've been working so much damage it i gotta get naps here before i watch the whole time game you know i mean i gotta make sure i do my homework but i'm trying to expand a little bit more okay outside my comfort zone hey the canadians would be a good team for you just to pick up wait until you see their fan base their fan base is absurd you know it's crazy i never been to a hockey game i was when i was put this is them you need to see this so this is in montreal okay so the way that wane gritski who was on the show earlier who's the greatest hockey player of all time from you know he talks about the montreal canadians basically being viewed as like the yankees in canada oh this isn't a weigh game this is just a watch along happening in their set uh their arena the bell center or whatever up there they are a a starving very very good franchise and fan base that if you were to pick that this would be a good time to pick them up as your team park this would be a good time and watch their games it's gonna be electric well let me go here and jump on the bandwagon let me go here yeah i'm gonna go here and do that get to a game canadians to the top baby hey do the hockey park you're the best ladies and gentlemen kendrick park okay i'm excited for him to happen upon a canadian tyler yeah did a goat i can't wait my boy aji all right man we're proud of you i'm doing great yeah i just i couldn't i the hartenstein situation i had to get to so you were just brewing over there that entire time i mean i just i just thought like maybe i thought mitzch should have worked the refs a little bit more i feel like the second half maybe you start calling him a few times yeah he wasn't happy at all you know tony brothers you don't want to hear it yeah he no nonsense obviously in that whole thing a couple new stories that we have to hit before we jump into hockey with legendary montreal canadian um jerry jones on the international wear and tear he says uh it's less than a night out so these kids don't even really drink anymore so they don't even know what it's like me and the boys we used to two kegger next day yeah right we're hung over for 17 hours maybe we you know hop right back on the wagon maybe we um maybe we do a little hair the dog the next more maybe we have some magic beers to get back into it but the wear and tear of aviation in 2026 come on absolutely nothing to a bottle of whiskey in 1985 so i don't even want to hear it so he's done with it i think jerry obviously big international proponent obviously because that is how the big business is a j have you changed your thoughts on these international games because i'm gonna let you know i'm in on them let's take let's say more over there come on man welcome i'm fine with it my favorite is the the last part of that where jerry says stop stop don't act like they'd be back at home resting in bed resting up like it's he's got a point there he really does i mean i understand that part of it but whether you agree or not it's happening and it's only going to expand overseas there's going to be a super bowl some someday that's not played in america i would imagine so whether you like it or not we got to figure it out i think a lot of us would be more okay with a super bowl being played overseas than like stealers ravens or packers bears can you imagine the super bowl being on it like 9 a.m. though on sunday like that pissed me off big time that's what it would be big time no no they would make them do it late just like australia yeah the guys are playing it one a.m. just like they did with the u.f.c. what are they doing in there i guess there are some time constraints but obviously other sports have figured it out the international growth is only going to be expedited through the olympics with flag football there's more states getting legalized and more flag football getting approved i believe it's going to become a college sport which means obviously i don't know how they're gonna afford it okay because this is an olympic sport technically flag football would be an olympic sport obviously it is football which is good for everything so hopefully it'll get marketed well but it is an olympic sport a lot of olympic sports at a lot of places are kind of getting the squeeze right now so i'll be eager to see how flag football kind of fits into an ncda into a college university's budget especially as we're in this new nio world but if this becomes a viable option for both men and women for college and this becomes a whole another avenue of entertainment for flag football the international growth is only going to grow from all this because it's a lot easier to play flag football than is play tackle football so i think you need to get ready to go wash steelers take on the ravens right over there in maybe belgic ton digs i think that's around corner basically what they said yesterday i'm cool with sending all the flag games international i think that's a good idea i like what you just did like what the fanatics super flag festivals yeah and in college i those sports may make money because it's football and people would actually maybe go watch them you got to build good proper stadiums it can't be having them in the 65,070 no i've got to play them in the soccer stadium or whatever you said flags tough to watch really it's like pickleball pickleball tough to watch yeah i wouldn't watch it yeah people i mean obviously it's it's a different it's not the same sport as that we're normally watching football but yeah i don't know i yeah it's tough to watch for me the penthouse the outhouse move that they do is cool to watch it is throughout the elevator but i just i just think the way the game is it's a little bit too free flowy it feels like you're watching kind of lacrosse it's kind of taking place out there don't it is football but is it football there's different rules it feels like it's live too there's always music playing if you like whenever you can play yeah so it's like kind of hard to you know like feel like it is a big time but i do think the sport of football will reign supreme and entertainment value whenever it comes to that so i hope that it continues to grow okay speaking of growing hockey obviously huge night tonight is the eastern conference tips are pock drops and we saw that big perk is obviously riding with the canadiens he's not the only one ladies and gentlemen joining us now is a man who's a 13-year nhl vet and has been on television basically for the last three weeks every single day telling people how great hockey he's also up in montreal seemingly having one ladies and gentlemen pk suban how you doing pk how boys how are you going on do you see big perk do you see big perk just signed up to be a canadiens fan i think it's a good time to do that i did i just actually saw big perk the other day when i went over to do get up uh and i mean i he's so much bigger in person my goodness he's a big man but uh we'll take perk i can't believe he's never been to a hockey game though you gotta take we gotta change that we gotta change that i would definitely love to see him watch a little bit more hockey his perspective is always uh intriguing and interesting and he's a fun guy so we'll definitely love to have him on the hockey side i can't wait to get perk into the sport hey this series let's go perk this series is a good time to get involved because obviously both environments are going to be outrageous you were early on in the uh hey boys the home ice good for the show it's not doesn't really matter on the ice for the hurricanes it has though they've kind of just been dominating at home and all jackie hughes came out and said carolina tough uh ej uh you know big hornel yeah he said this morning that it feels like you're on a down escalator trying to walk up whenever you try to battle against the caniacs down there that's how good their barn is montreal obviously very used to that with how loud their place is what do you expect from this game and how do you think this thing kind of gets started for this whole eastern conference finals well i expect montreal to come out playing a connected game they know they're gonna have to be the faster team in this series just because carolina has been faster than everybody all year long i mean on their forecheck uh their forecheck is not something that you really want to play with so for all the word coming out of montreal is we got to play our game well you know we're skilled you know quick fast team and explosive team well we got to see that because at different times even through the first and the second round they did not look that skilled they did not look that explosive they look like they were sort of a fish out of water on their heels i i don't think they can afford to do that to a carolina team that is so used to rolling four lines and rolling on teams i think montreal does have to find their game in this series and i think it starts tonight okay i'm excited to see montreal do that we will never get a non-biased take from this man we are excited to watch the kaniacs kind of nope this guy was shirtless up there with them that's all yeah he was up there in the middle of montreal doing things he was speaking french with me okay do you know french yeah we we yeah we we me you're talking to me no you're too good you're just called me beautiful i think right is that what you just said i was talking to somebody i you know thank you somebody thank you hey merci beaucoup merci beaucoup yeah some bell out there or mademoiselle certainly uh heard that loud and clear you're the best you're the absolute best pk okay let's move to the west shall we there's tone digs with a question for you yeah pk obviously vgk gets a huge win last night uh mitch marner with an absolutely insane assist he is on fire how how is toronto handling this uh after great question thank you how's for people that don't know toronto basically blamed marner for all their playoff drought or inefficiencies and then he comes over and is just on fire with the knights so how do you think mitch feels and how does toronto feel well i'm glad you asked me the question because i was going to bring it up anyway i want all the smoke from everybody from toronto because i said it and i'm going to say it again he's an all-world talent and you know i think that at some point it's going to pass because it has to pass the toronto may police had to change up that culture of that team and maybe mitch wasn't the right player i certainly didn't think he was the guy they should be getting rid of but i'm going to tell you something when you take that type of talent and you mix it with championship pedigree in vegas and then add a championship pedigree coach in john tortarella like this is that this is what you get right and he's absolutely filthy he's disgusting the plays that he makes i know that these ones are ended up in the back of the net but guys he's making a ton of these plays every shift and if you know the game you're going to notice these things and and i certainly have been noticing them i noticed them before he was playing in the national hockey league i noticed them when he was doing them against me and i'm definitely seeing it now watching hot look at this like my goodness what is that filthy how did he see him there yeah you know what they say real recognize real and you and marner not strangers at all there if you know ball you kind of know puck you kind of know that every shift he's doing these types of things it's not it's not just the ones with apples and goals attached to them it's every time he's on the ice he's making the right decision is that what you're saying pk about mitch marner was he doing this in toronto or is he significantly better now well you know ask austin matthews because you know no one benefited more from playing with mitch marner than austin matthews it's not that he's not a 70 goal scorer without he may not be though if you if you don't have mitch marner you need to have someone like him when you're a goalscorer and austin matthews knows how valuable he is as a player and it's not because of his size or it's how he sees the ice it's hockey iq it's on the level with guys like mc david crossbie mckinnon this is one of the smartest players in the league if not the smartest offensively because of his size his facing understanding how to get in between defenses look at this understanding how to use bodies his screens and throw goaltenders off he's exceptional and he's a he's a small dog playing a big dog's game ej said that uh these guys now they're such talented skaters it doesn't really matter the size because their shoulders their stick and their hips are all telling a different story as they're skating so they can create space by making you go a different direction it's like that he said i think he said they're doing the maca rena yeah across the entire thing she don't know what to read so even though they're under size it's hard to know where the where the hell they're going i guess and that's crazy to think about the minor details of that all what you have to do so with quinn hues as well it's like it feels like if you're an incredible skater all of a sudden you can play anywhere out there and kind of avoid the big hits great great point um your edges and the use of your edges you got your inside and your outside edge quinn hues mitch marner honor mc david ale mccar nathan mckinnon are exceptional from going from their inside to outside edges no matter what they're doing whether they're skating straight they got to stop and start whether they're turning whether they're pivoting to backwards nobody in the league sydney crossby add him to that list right all of those guys are exceptional at controlling their edges mitch might be one of the best at it because he can literally go heal to heal and go in a straight line so think about that if you can go down the ice heal to heal with your stage okay so essentially these are the heels okay if you're going right let me angle it yeah so heal to heal like this you got to have loose hips in order to do that mitch marner's got some special hips you'll see him when his hips he goes heel to heel skate and he opens up yeah it allows him to go in a straight line while still seeing the whole ice in front of him so it's it's it's pretty special to be able to do that yeah it's kind of how talk runs yeah yeah obviously it's two different outcomes if i had to if i had to say that's pksuban and aj hawk the boys are all here evan fox just want to dump his pants really continue on digital sports center takes it from here we'll see tomorrow goodbye okay so we're still live pks you know evan fox with about uh 45 seconds left in that first hour about 156 15 or something drops into my ear i'm about to shit my pants oh sit down sit again zeta where to jump in there lot of action quick see a lot of action quick there towards the end and we were pulling for foxy and the toilet yeah and the toilet obviously so there was a lot of chaos over here pks you were talking about heal to heal there as it was taking place foxy might right now be healed what's it he did apologize right before the show when he was walking into the back room he heated up his food and then walked to the back room and said sorry boys i think it was some stinky stinky food i don't think it's that right right that's what i'm just saying it's extra stinky food i'll tell you what we got the office issues you know somebody goes to the microwave cooks up salmon just ruins the whole place onions thanks for doing it thank you there's been things that have been banned from our office a couple different times you know because there's situations like i say fish should be banned fish in the microwave should probably be banned well it's a panic well i eat salmon all the time i eat every single game at esp i eat it all the time i warm it up in the microwave can eat it oh my god what do you do do you blow it on people too to go like so i'm the stinky guy now so i'm probably known as the stinky guy is what you're saying on esp and camp what i'm saying is i think they love you because your energy and everything that you do but every time you do that they go this again with the fucking fish you know jeez louise we all have to kind of we all in now we're all eating fish oh pu suban but also yeah yeah that is that is what they're saying pu suban uh unbelievable but it's a big campus there that's a big campus so i assume it's it is so a lot of people know no what word spreads fast i cook it hold on i cook it the same day so it's not in the microwave that long like if you're heating up about five minutes and you're really like come on it's it's a 45 second to a minute heat that's enough you're getting a quick blast of fish you're not getting the whole what do you think somebody's slow roasting salmon in our office they're doing a minute and a half two minutes isn't uh i think every office is about a minute and a half two minute reheat of fish if that is taking place and yes everybody knows that you're doing it everybody's so happy you're so healthy you get your fish oils we're all so happy for you we got a guy here who's coming on a fractured ankle yeah okay and he's gonna oh no he's gonna be trying to get back into you know yeah he's staring at another one because he started walking on it early yeah well he's pretty comfortable right now his hips are certainly gonna be fucked but he had crutches and he was carrying them i didn't know that was how those go and then his food he had just been walking with it naturally but he's gonna be doing a lot of the salmon in the protein shit oh yeah yep have to and we're gonna be a part of his pedaling gotta do the pedaling thing too you know that pedal machine that you gotta do when your ankles end up no what the sitting down yeah so in hockey like i don't know if you guys have ever seen it but there's i don't know the name of the machine but if you ever injured like your leg or your ankle and you couldn't skate for instance you'd get on this pedal machine you just pedaled with your hands you'd be sitting there and that's how you would get your cardio in yeah cardio sucks so bad i need to do that right now because my knees the aj this might be what because aj does this one right don't you do the verse max verse yeah verse the koi man oh i like that you didn't want to say your name first but you kind of did now you kind of did but you want with aj instead that was nice to you okay let's pick the game the night please sir pick the game this evening uh do you think the canes come out of this long long break after sweeping the first two series rusty or do you think they are a buzz saw at home as montreal might be a little bit tired after a tough seven game grueling battle with buffalo no i think Montreal wins this game one um i do think Montreal wins game one and i think that they win this game i'm gonna go or two whoa okay we're doing exact scores i like that let's go let's go to hoops you're obviously in the building in madison square garden watching an epic comeback i assume you're gonna be biased towards the nicks as well so you can still do all the cool things that you get to do in new york is that how we're viewing game two this evening well you know i listen i've gotten some heat before going to msg so sometimes i do go in there and i get a little bit of heat with what i do say so i still got to call it down the fairway pat you know that but i am and have become a nicks fan i am a nicks fan i have to say that it's one of the hard it's hard work that i admire about the nicks team they leave it all on the court so it's worth my time to go and watch them at the garden that's why i always show up uh but now they got some star talent in brunson and towns but brunson my like my god i have to go back tonight i have to go back and watch it with a chance to be a witness again of watching this guy take over a game uh and embarrass the team in the playoffs it was so special to watch that performance it really was he never misses that's where i learned whenever he was playing the braids are going pat the braids are going and he's not this going to he gets a little bit of this going to but it's when it's how he gets in between the defenses whether it's the teardrop whether he pulls up his mid-range game he'll shoot the three he doesn't care he'll cross you over and then he'll penetrate he'll dish like he beats you so many different ways so when i get asked the question of how do you rebound after blowing 22 points with seven minutes left to go in a game and i'm saying well well first you got to figure out how to put this guy on a leash like this is a dog this guy's eating you alive and you guys are talking about like how you bounce back well you guys got to figure out how to stop him uh and that's where the focus should have been because my goodness he was uh he was special down the stretch for sure yeah he's been like this too he is very worthy of a title i would say yes he is very worthy of a title in the way he operates being one of the faces of new york would become king of new york if he won for the nicks obviously but the way he handles that type of pressure spectacular i mean pat yep he does and i want to there's one other guy i want to talk about because i was super impressed was mckeil bridges just his defensive just how he stepped up in the game when the guys got in a foul trouble no i'm being honest he was he was a dog on defense i loved just how he competed on harden he stepped up in those big moments i could see that the team was rallying around it as well which is pretty awesome to see so i gotta give him some love for sure basketball pundit n h l a analyst ladies and gentlemen that's pk suban hey are you on tv tonight are you on tv tonight no no no tv tonight i'll be at the next game and i'm gonna have to have game on my phone so i'll be tuning in back and forth i'm gonna be watching it tonight did we get a do i'll be doing did we get a full workout in a soak in and everything today or no i did i did legs today really kicked my kick my butt today i did i had bra jump yeah i did uh had the hack squat leg extensions today so really got into the glutes and hammy's fat yeah i need to keep those for stability yep yeah big big can't massage massage coming up now or what yeah when's the massage i got the epsom salt bath next because i because i walk back from the gym in the rain today so i gotta i'm gonna get in the epsom salt bath just really chill things out and then yeah see where the day takes me from there dinner out of milio yeah maybe stop by milios oh yeah yeah that's standard yeah 100 wow what an honor for you to be able to say that just be able to stop by me yes get some part of the genre that's awesome why not it's the best place the best five best place i have to stop by and show love every day shout to maria this kid was dressed well yeah he was unbelievable service was perfect you like some more that's maria yep yeah he was here shout out to jr shout out to the whole crew anthony carmine everybody yeah we gotta say good night to you today for sure good night to you tomorrow you're the man good luck out there p you saban yeah p you of course he's fucking saman is he bringing his own salmon to the espn probably a backpack yeah he probably has a super cool bag still on the fishing line some yeah yeah gets out of the Hudson it has the the paper wrapping around uh-huh yeah he just caught it maybe on the way in he was walking and somebody throws it he catches it puts it in some fucking absurd bag with the head and the tail sticking out of the inside yep big go he's fucking losing it the jays fucking yeah he has a flint he starts the fire right underneath the table steve levy somebody in there says fish again huh you know i gotta do it that definitely leaves yeah certainly all right uh speaking of steve levy sent a text while uh either while we were talking to wano or after we were talking to wano and he said best uh wano stat is if you eliminated all of his goals he would still have the most points in the history or something like that it's like wane was the guy he was on wane gritsky huh this guy wane gritsky this guy's good all right good hey guys when when people try to talk about mc david and and like like talk about him being bad like no one's ever going to be better than gritsky like i like the conversation there's certain conversations that we shouldn't have to have like you know like the jordan conversation the gritsky conversation like we should kind of be putting those to bed like no one's ever going to be better than wane gritsky it's just not going to happen like and records are meant to be broken the game changes rules change we get all that stats going to change but wane gritsky the great one like come on man what are we talking about i don't even have to go on about this it just put that to bed it's it's wane and then there's everybody else after that somewhere yeah but that's not a big mario and then cidney cross me obviously in there ovee has certainly scored his way into the conversation i mean there's some original six teams bobby or of course love to get there madano basal mccray wane was 1.92 points per game and then mario 1.88 and those are the two that's it and mario levio for sure yeah 100 but wanes like come on yeah no i actually told wane that today during the conversation with him that because i'm from pittsburgh i used to say mario le mus the goat thank you so much and just literally tell everybody shut the f*** up that's literally what i would do just as a ignorant fan of the pittsburgh penguins and then cidney cross becomes long guess what i got again hey we got the f***ing grace player of all time dee shut shut the f*** up and then somebody forced me to look at wane gritsky's uh stats numbers and it really changed everything oh shit i've been pretty disreputable here the wane gritsky it feels like i need to uh stop doing that immediately hockey's great sport we appreciate the hell out of you pk keep cooking those fish dog ladies jenny pk's suvance yeah pk definitely scaling the fish there yeah maybe even a couple like i think he had you think he had the salmon from the like the the lunchroom one day at the espn he said it was trash i can't do this i forget my own i wonder if they even offer it because they know that everybody in the building and campus is gonna have to smell it great cafeteria i was gonna say they got really nice stuff over there great great food i do believe that everything that i've ever had there like top of the line delicious chefs and food and everything like that there's been a lot of a variety of s*** you can get like sub obviously pizza nachos omelettes eggs healthy i think you probably i would imagine you can get salmon yeah it's really high end s*** it's really nice very much like the la chargers uh little food eatery cafeteria place i have very very nice here is a shot of the place you know it gets sushi there this is from the uh draft no i'm sorry schedule release prime time uh with the nfl live folks uh dan orlovsky hawkins i believe miss laura rutledge 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there's some uh what's the one they're doing the twitch the the nest in kick the fight kick there it is those ones there's a lot of rumble rumble there it is there's a lot of things doing zufa wake up welcome to the world a j g wrong with your brain just asking questions just asking questions yeah bees on the brain don't call him a bee brain is that what happened in the middle of that question you're just like you know what i just saw the queen's loose yeah and then he had to go back wendby i was pissed off because wendby obviously has b at the end of that so now you are he's actually naming his hive potentially the wendby hive so now he's kind of feeling a little bit of an extra closeness to wendby so even though we were 15 minutes past that situation he still had to wend beehive on the brain after starting the other one and i'm happy you got to that i'm happy you got that because that's what you wanted to know yeah i i couldn't i could not just continue i had to stop pause for 12 to 15 seconds forget it and then come right back i thought you did great honestly landed the plane we've all been there brother don't you worry about that but the beehive shit is crazy that you're actually doing love it i would like to let you know that it is crazy i've not broken any more nhl news since that first time i did the news thing and i guess people say i didn't break it i was actually pretty late today but i am potentially excited about some news this chapter just broke okay ladies and gentlemen nflpa has reached an agreement today with joms to become the exclusive peanut butter and jelly sandwich of the players what jj wanton kayla boyms are a part of joms ownership group and the player-led partnership will make the pb and j's available league wide this season that's a big deal because we obviously have heard the stats 80 000 uncrustable peanut butter and jellies okay throughout the nfl season is what was actually reported and projected at least joms which i do believe we we have experienced the joms experience here at the office so good so good bigger more i think there's more protein in these things i think they have a healthier option them linking or inking a deal very happy for them congratulations to the joms team we have met them them wanting to become you know a part of the nfl and partner with the nfl pa was a big deal and uh i'm excited for that i'm also excited for potentially this means more growth for joms joms wait until people have these things joms are delicious i don't they are fucking good and you don't immediately need to like feel like you need to get it out of you know it's good and i'm a pb and j guy have been actually as a child i wanted to open a peanut butter and jelly restaurant where we would serve different styles of peanut butter and jelly obviously you have it on the bread what type of bread what type of cut is it toasted is it not toasted you can put these things on bagels you can put them on absolutely anything you put two waffles together and have a peanut butter and jelly on the outside maybe even french toast you can do so many things with a peanut butter and jelly and i think everybody in america at least agrees on that that's why the number was astounding whatever they reported what the nfl was going through but me and aj i think we both say that makes sense i mean just being able to just snag those things we're at the ohio state buckeyes building so much things are available oh there's there's a uncrustable peanut butter and jelly option right here boom give me that thing every single time jom seems to want to get into the game aj a little bit they do and they're they're one of the that's like a thing now if you go anywhere they claim like they add protein to everything any drink on on all of these fast food menus with smoothies like the protein thing and joms actually are i think a much healthier option but chef breaking the news because this is potentially a gigantic one uh salla uh just came out and said no seed oils in the building anymore joms no seed oils no seed oil wow pb and j knows some big j pb and j knows happening right in front of our eyes right now congrats all parties getting the deal done and congrats to chef the breaking a bb and j that they work chef there we go chef t we appreciate that anything that we miss that we need to talk about oh yeah baseball show hey otani he's dealing and don't ladies and gentlemen uh show hey otani last night was absolutely dealing and on the first pitch of the evening remember he has been called into question over the last couple weeks about his ability to pitch and also still remain a lethal hitter well on night that he is on the bump first pitch of the game in which everybody's tuning in to watch him he takes that shit yard show hey obviously still dominant what's the conversation about him time what else is happening around baseball yeah i mean he's still very dominant his dominance is to the point where like last night he wasn't super sharp really but he doesn't give up any earned runs his era i believe is 0.73 through his first however many starts of the year that's like the the best ever going back to him and one other guy jacob de grom have have had that lovin era through this many starts in the year and uh yeah i think show hey has said hey if i'm pitching i also want to be hitting they kind of tried messing with that a little bit but it's just to the point where like this guy needs it bats it's pretty it's as simple as that he doesn't need to just lock in on pitching now we'll see if they continue to do it but uh they've been pretty successful so far that was his first home run and then i mean you know i don't want to say we're in the we're definitely not in the dog days but we are to the point now where it's like teams are kind of starting to figure out who they are a little bit more what their identities are you got the braves in the national league are kind of far and away the best team right now i shouldn't say far and away but they've been the best team wire to wire um they've been incredible in there in the same division as the mets and the fillies who obviously spent all the money in the world this off season and then in the american league very surprising the tampa bay race uh are the best team in the american league and they just they'll small ball you to death bunch of singles they bunt a lot they put the ball in play they kind of forced the other team and that's the thing you can boom but they are they have their team is made up with guys you've probably never heard of with the exception of maybe junior camonero who in he's in you know a very young player he had 45 homers was in the home run derby uh last year but nl very uh like probably six or seven teams that are very good the ale only has i believe two teams over 500 so the ale absolutely stinks and then tony the nl central is unbelievable obviously which the pirates are in but i know you have something else yeah i do the quick set if you put those division rankings back up there the ale west leader the ale central leader and the ale east leader are all the lowest spending teams in those divisions well this help or hurt the cba negotiations that are about to take place about a salary cap but you you want to get back to conversation about teams that normally don't spend and normally don't have success the nl central i think is one of those that is kind of littered with those types of teams so i think you're about to dive into that the buckos have a chance look at us above 500 why are we only one game above five that's new that's completely what we haven't seen i haven't seen this in a while is this right this is updated it feels like you're upset about what are you upset about yeah you should be ecstatic about them being 25 and 24 shut up red sox you guys haven't sniffed anything other than last place it's literally day one one game out of the playoffs right now we're not in my one game out of the playoffs five you're 22 and 27 and that's going to get it done in the ale this year baby all right enough please can you go back to what happened to the pirates we need paul on the bump a little bit more i wouldn't say anything necessarily happened they're kind of just they their bullpen has been the pirates have been losing a lot of close games so like it's not like i feel like in years past and tony correct me if i'm wrong but early in the season like this they lose a lot of these games and they're getting their ass kicked either it's like if skeens isn't on the bump they were defensively very bad and then their offense wasn't any good connor griffin has been on a tear the young phenom he's really starting to kind of get his feet wet and it's like okay yeah we are watching the everyday shortstop of the pirates for the next 15 to 20 years if he stays healthy them being 25 and 24 i mean listen they're in the best division in baseball right now you could argue maybe the nl west with the the dodgers and the padres and you know the diamond backs have been pretty good but the nl central is kind of a murderous row right now we see what miss arouski does every single time he pitched hey this guy's doing some record breaking shit they're saying not only being the fastest guy but also he has some other shit i guess nobody's even touching the ball when he's pitched no yeah his his like whiff rate and every i mean it's really the only thing that can derail this guy is if he gets hurt because at this point like his stuff is so good he goes out there and yeah when you throw that hard you're gonna give up some home runs from time to time but he i mean he's he's yeah the nl side young racer but also so last year so i just wanted to start to cut you off here i'm not super baseball guy but last year when we were at the all star game i learned a lot quickly he made the all star team with only five starts and the fans were very pissed off about that but everybody in baseball was like yep yeah that makes sense yeah this guy's five starts he makes the all star game with somebody else and everybody's like hey there's a reason this fucking guy's got a lot of hype within the baseball world obviously we've gotten a chance to talk to him and he's electric on the mound he's a unicorn there is no one else like him like obviously you know guys like skeens and and like terrick scoobal and some of these other guys who are super dominant he throws as hard as like mason miller is throwing 104 miles an hour almost every time he's throwing a fastball but typically he's throwing anywhere from 10 to you know 15 pitches in a game because he's only he's coming in he's throwing one inning miss arouski is throwing 104 like 25 pitches in a game or he's throwing over 140 of however many like he's doing it every single start and we've never seen a guy like this do that type of stuff before because like physically it just doesn't seem like you should be able to do a guy shouldn't be able to throw that hard every four days and the numbers are staggering the amount of 100 plus mile an hour pitches that he's thrown just this season ranks him you know in like the top 10 of like the last 20 years or something like that like it is it's truly staggering what he does day in day out so this is the side young race shout out to eric cross mlb this is currently the nl side young race and it's just littered with not only brand names but incredible talent baseball has been bringing it world baseball classic help we talk about this with hockey with the us olympics the men women and paralympic teams winning and hockey becoming like a spotlight for a lot of americans world baseball classic i think brought a lot of hype to baseball and they've been bringing it and obviously you are away for paternity which we obviously appreciate came back with a brand new car which uh sorry god damn right brand new van it's not brand new but yes i am driving my wife's car right now yes and you're gonna double it up because it's that it's that nice i just want to let you know we haven't talked much rock yeah stone stone it's it's hard around this time because we have nba finals or you know conference finals games every night and there's nhl games every night so if you're not like you know i'm watching nhl and mba and the yankees have kind of been relegated to the phone and that's just kind of the way it goes but you know in in three weeks here or four weeks when it's you just have one nhl game you just have one mba game like we are in the the area where there are upwards of you know 14 to 15 mlb games every single day so like if there is nothing else to watch like there is a good chance that you're gonna run into seeing a mizerowski or a skeins or a shohei or someone like that every night or tarps off the lads are taking their shirts off i believe in st louis steven f austin made an appearance and then it became a thing and then we got walk off dong shots in front of the tarps off boys in st louis against pittsburgh pirates who are now just one game over 500 and the place is going bananas i love okay that this is a thing for them i love that this is becoming a thing i think for more teams in baseball i like that this generation of fan is kind of bringing this type of fan hood back okay we saw in college football okay we saw in college football start to brew a little bit and then you start to see it now it's like i like the excitement i like the togetherness i like the unity i like the moment i like remembering things and i like that sports can bring people together uh to have a good time and if the lads are taking the tarps off and the shirts off up there and it's bringing wins for the team and good times for the boys good on you lads it's everywhere caught fire don't you think aj i think it's awesome i just think about like the there might there's always probably a couple people that didn't know they were sitting in the section that was going to do this next to sit there like some 70 year old guy and his wife like all right i guess here i guess i'm doing it here we go a little pure pressure to get shirtless not a bad thing but i do think it is a comfort level from everybody in the stadium that maybe i'm not a shirts off guy in public but how could you not want to rally i guess there is a lot of videos of people getting out of there oh yeah yeah we gotta go all right let's go we're going up there yeah and then on the way taking the shirts off we saw that in college football once again now we're seeing it in baseball you know if anything brings people to happiness and togetherness and to experience something i'm for it and i assume that a lot of these lads had quite a night after the tarps off as well together which would have never happened beforehand so congrats to all parties enjoying the shit out of sports in a way that uh you're certainly allowed to do and hasn't seemingly happened in a long time no the bros have kind of come back to sports a little bit a little bit of bros nature is healing fuck yeah boys fuck yeah here we fucking go boys so many of those so many hell yes the amount of hell yes that are happening oh so many and then there's a walk off at the end of yeah and he's in the guy running the base yeah he's looking at you yeah the amount of hole yeah we did that so much of that you know just talking about that forever maybe yeah i was one of the tarps off boys the pardons whenever you walk off on the parts yeah like there there's a chance of that that's awesome like how many times is that happening in life the way that organically started though with the with the Cardinals and steven f austin the baseball team was there for the division two championship and i believe they won it and then they went to the Cardinals game after and it started and then the manager for the Cardinals brought them into the locker room and then gave them all free tickets the next day for that whole section to do it again and then it kind of cough or things like that happened organically like that much much better than like anything that would have been forced agreed what are you why do you what do you immediately talk about marketing boys that end up being a nightmare and actually work against you instead of for you but everybody is super smart because they went through a hard school and they think they're marketing geniuses i have no idea but it feels like you have something to say about no it's not that you were talking about no i just forced campaigns or forced things that kind of are put out there some super genius things of it and it's like yeah we'll get everybody to buy in on this and then all of a sudden it's like we look like assholes the natural things have to happen that's why yeah yeah exactly that's why the con yep that's the con yeah that was just genius from one company that saw exactly what would happen if they slapped it on the shirt what's that the hoist the cone fanatics yeah yeah they knew it exactly yeah that was you know what they knew that wasn't that wasn't a guest that wasn't organic that was you're welcome Pittsburgh watch this fanatics gets a lot of heat for a lot of things they kind of created a pretty sick tradition in a once viewed fuck up but maybe just a foretelling of what was to come we don't know with anybody can anybody read the future actually and read minds i'm being told no cia can read your phone so we're being told as well they can also read your we know that yeah a patriot actor whatever i think we all know that just there with my words are their words their words are your words and they can put words anything changed on the mind reading situation i guess not happening they say my credit card thing huh somebody's gonna have to get that one for me figure that one out debut immediately upon meeting him for the first time opening phone scrolling phone getting to something knowing exactly what that is unless he was able to bluetooth into debuts phone there which i fuck sounds like he does that with device that he's able to do that how do you do the but then where's he looking at is that just popping up on contacts that he's wearing like where does he see the answer at as well because both he was holding something right in front someone telling him and is he just having earpiece but how does he get the draft order and i would like to know if there is an earpiece for another person there like what they think about my participation abilities you know in this entire thing you've been through a lot together what do you think about me were you a little bit worried about me because there was a couple times where i was a little bit worried about me because i had multiple different thoughts and he called him out on both of them so i don't think he's reading minds though a j he's playing a big stunt that's the only way he can do it he needs to be in like time square and then like teleport to like hong kong or something like now you see me kind of like one of those actual yeah pictures that they have the the big portal things yeah i think porn stars have really kind of kind of root yeah right yeah they turned him off because of that yeah because everybody was just going in a guy yeah look at my holy fang this used to be for only fans but now it's for the only plans ever that's what you remember those those were like kind of becoming a thing yeah yeah if shams could or not shams os uh if he could do that and like end up on like the top of the eiffel tower just like holding on to it i could then i think then he could kind of put this all to rest and be like oh really good luck shams we do get to see uh sorry good luck os good luck good luck os both of you um there is some magic that happens in sports on a regular basis that nobody can kind of describe like an in the park ron slimy did you see this there's been a lot of defensive plays that have been popping up on my timeline specifically from one particular player i don't like that he's going to get back to being a dog but an in the park grand salami seems like a pipe dream and then it actually happens what happens here tige is massive fuckery uh yeah kind of jimmy wood james wood uh right fielder for the nationals absolutely pipes one into the gap so kind of a perfect spot to hit it then you can see how hard uh the left fielder there hits into the wall and the center fielder has no fucking idea what's going on the left fielder looks at him he's like the ball's way the fuck over there you gotta go get it and james wood is uh he's young he's very fast he's tall so he's a long strider so really once that kind of carrom back into center field it was like all right fuck it you know let's uh let's try to get an inside the park grand slam i'd be very curious to see how many of these there have been in mlb history you could probably count them on one hand but there have been quite a few inside the park home runs this year little league and otherwise so i mean it's like what does that mean little league well little league would be like if there's like a bunch of errors and shit and like so you hit like a ground ball into the outfield and it goes past the guys glove or whatever and then you end up scoring like in if you're in little league you still count that as a home run because it's like hey i i got all the bases you know i'm still good like james wood's like that's a legitimate that that is considered a home run that's a grand slam because there were no errors on the play he actually made it to home it's it counts the same as a home run one of the greatest photos of all time is him pointing where the ball is with him going what's that ball is behind him in but inside the park grand slam i also saw him i saw some uh gamesmanship oh bobby would you love this play a j anytime i see a little slight a hand take place and it actually work i love it so obviously you got a big hit and a throwback from the catcher air and throw bobby with the uh what's that and then the third base goes god oh jeez he doesn't have it he doesn't have it that's what he's saying though right there fakes that he has it acts like he has the tag then it holds the person obviously at third base everybody's telling him in there that he doesn't have it there's an angle that is like truly spectacular from the backside where he literally in the middle of oh no i'm never going to catch that you see him make a conscious decision to be like i am going to gimmick this thing i love whenever there's some real gamesmanship baseball has a lot of that it feels like we're watching bobby with jr he's up for a gold platinum super duper glove right yeah he's an absolute wizard with his glove his bat has really come on this year i mean he's always been a good hitter but he was struggling a little bit at the start but yeah i mean he's he's good for like you know i don't know 10 plus highlight plays a week it seems like uh he's just unbelievable everything he does is very heady every play he makes that is incredibly difficult he makes it look super easy and it'd be nice if the royals could pick it up a little bit because they're kind of a younger team that has a lot of guys who are you know they got the pass watch they got jack cagley and they got a bunch of like young talent but they've been struggling a little bit so it would be like that's the type of team who if you're not really invested in baseball like you can see yourself kind of pulling for them and kind of riding their story for the rest of the summer and bobby witt's got silky hands yeah very silky silky mitts out there um pca is in the middle of one right now pca is in the middle one right now i'll figure it out yeah it will come on pca boom bang couple like just come on yeah happens just a quick mental lapse you know long season a lot happened he's a dog oh yeah we're excited to watch him continue to showcase that jas chism jr he was doing some cool stuff is he back what do we have about him yeah jas is he he did not have a good first couple weeks first month of the season uh and this is a contract here for him so very very important he's been slumping big time so he basically said okay i need to start wearing my teammates pants i can't wear my pants anymore john carlo stanton is on the i l right now jas said hey big g let me wear your pants uh i let me put big g's pants on exactly and big g basically said like yeah there's a lot of homers in those pants so i figured if i can't use them right now jas can he has been on an absolute tear i believe that he was wearing trekk grisham's pants uh in in this particular game but he did go you already had another three hits last night so baseball is one of those things where superstitions it's weird you know he's also using jose caballero's bat the Yankee shortstop so he's basically not using any of his own shit and all of a sudden he's caught fire so it's kind of awesome and i would assume like i'm hoping that maybe jas is wearing like judges cleats tonight it might be a little big but i'm hoping he'll do something like that he's using his own glove are we are we doing his his his ball his mitt in the field has never been the issue we need more production from jas at the plate oh so he's trying to get big g's pants on so he'll get big g's back exactly okay and he's found it yeah he's certainly he's swinging that bat too yes he is is he using others bats or is he still got his no so the the Yankees every day uh sharding starting shortstop who is also on the aisle i believe he's coming back tomorrow hose caballero he's been unbelievable and jas said hose let me get your bat mine's not working right now let me use your bat and boom had three hits last night so i've taken other people's putters you know if they're making it hey let me give it a go here i think it's what you're doing i'm me doing it as long as it works who cares jas is certainly a vibes guy though right oh yeah big we might be seeing this for the rest of the year i hope so he might have he might have boons pants on it's a hundred pounds he might wear boonie's pants i'd sign off on that are you on are you in on boon because i know you guys are really air run boon and then air off boon well way too early you know none of this shit really matters until we get to the playoff so like right now yeah boonie's great you know and it could be a lot worse he could be like tony vitello he could be the you know giant skipper so uh yeah you know i i count my lucky stars with boonie because obviously it can get much worse but again when you're the yankees like none of this shit matters they need to win the world series this year and if they don't yeah there will be probably a lot of boonie needs to go cashman needs to go what the fuck's going on that's kind of just the way it works all right we'll go yanks go baseball i'm lucky to do that let's go back to the nfl huge signing up air in detroit she after broke the news while the show was live today it's not just jams in the nfl pa it's also jack cambell in the lions very jackal jackal brand new deal remember immediately following draft night a lot of people said jack cambell was a reach jack cambell was a reach and then jack cambell does exactly what he did at isle just be an absolute dog for dan cambell in that defense and now he's rewarded with a deal uh foxy we knew this was coming for big jack cambell yeah absolutely jack cambell is everything you want in the linebacker okay on that defense you got aiden hudgensen he steals the show he's the star he's a very good player but jack cambell is the heart he's the soul he's the grit he's the jam and he is everything you want on your defense and he deserves this and he kind of gets this whole thing going so i'm very happy for jack cambell here that's a big decision by dan cambell as we move forward on a new defense with kevin shepherd in his second year as defense coordinator last year didn't make the playoffs oh this year bring for the motor city lions well i remember uh earlier this year a couple maybe a month ago month and a half ago they didn't pick up his fifth year option because the fifth year option for linebackers is absurd for off-ball linebackers because they include the edges and stuff like that too so that was big news but there was never a doubt they were going to get jackal signed after an all pro season coming off an all pro season and foxy said like yes the leader of that defense but yeah it was big news because when linderbaum they didn't tag they didn't pick up linderbaum's fifth because of the o-line uh what that number was and they didn't do it for jack too there was questions if they were going to someone else was going to try to come get him but no line still well yeah baby jack and another i will hawk i just kind of doing it out there ty that's right that's right i've always been a jack cambell guy will continue to be a jack cambell guy even though he is a lion and and you know foxy he said it very eloquently you know grit sign paper john i will hawk i really nothing else you could ask of this guy i love jack cambell glad he got paid do the lions find their way back to the top of the nfc north with another year of experience with both of their coordinators and maybe a new culture having to be settled in after losing ben johnson a jay hawk i don't know was it shriggs who told us last year the lines are going to have it down here and be like told us pre season yeah like around now i don't i have a hot take i have a hot take do you want to hear my hot takes i'm doing a hot take on friday here's a hot take hot take detroit lines aren't making a playoffs this year and then we everybody was like fuck this guy he was right he was right yeah i feel like they come out the gates hot this year i don't know if they would be good though to stay in the park they're gonna be sneaky good too and they were not we were for a couple games did they get hot long one streak i heard malik willis is going to dinner with the boys leader of man i can't say enough about this guy you're about this going to offensive line meals and things like that hell yeah that's becoming a leader i saw halfway is mic'd up from uh practice he seems like i like his demeanor i really do former head coach right in college then he goes over to green bay he's obviously been around ball a long time i like his energy i like what they're looking for i think miami's a very difficult place to win with that many players especially with that many distractions but hey maybe they'll be able to find his green bay packers front office and head coach kind of invade the miami dolphins building and former quarterback and malik willis who shined in green bay in front of half lee's face you know is down there so maybe the miami dolphins aren't ash cheeks going into next nfl season gumby a lot of money uh not this year but next year i think we go over four and a half wins that's a total on us this year i think the balling we might shock some people win five you know okay five big wins for the miami dolphins good luck down there to the fin fan all right uh clint kubiak who obviously is with the raiders said that brock bowers is a football robot from heaven this thing created from the gods to be placed in a football uniform and you saw it whenever he was in high school whenever he was running the uh northern california napa hills uh to train for football with all the potential other things he could be doing georgia he was by far the best player on the football field now with the raiders he's broken all the records he is a gift from the football gods makes me believe that hey this raiders team with how they dealt with free agency the amount of players they brought in who they brought in and then for nana mendoza have you heard of reports out of camp i heard him what are they i heard him well did you hear the same thing i heard they said yeah it wouldn't be fernand no mendoza it would be fernand yes a mendoza advertise yeah everything's coming out positive about fernando mendoza and i i know thai simpson also going to be an incredible football player but dan orlovsky i think the way he was kind of talking about fernando maybe not being the outright number one guy i think was an interesting conversation that kind of started taking place around a lot of football conversations because he did go to cow and because he did go to indiana and it was kind of just a flash in the pan there with indiana there wasn't as many people that maybe knew fernando as well he's big he's super smart and he can spin the pill that is all everything i think most quarterback or offense coordinators are looking for kirk cousins there now the conversation is going to start to be do you start nando or do you let kirk lead the way and let fernando kind of fill in behind i think that's only going to continue and until we get eyes on it all it's harder for me to believe anything because the coaches are going to have to compliment him but from what we saw him do we all believe he'd be a great nfl quarterback and i love what the raiders have done over there yeah i mean every time he was on the field and we saw him with our eyes every throw was almost perfect everything that like we saw so we saw like with our eyes and then every time we talked to him he everything was perfect um and then yeah like he's huge he's fast he's athletic he he makes all the right reads and he talks about like when he thinks about the game as a puzzle like it was hard for us to envision that it wouldn't be like this you know like there was never a doubt like this early obviously it's not not a lot but like it's hard to see him it's hard to see him not succeed yeah it feels like with everything around him that he's ever been through he's going to be locked in now granted a lot of attention he was on he was on a magazine cover i didn't like what they said what'd they say the next one or something like that i forget the big there was a big word right under him i was like i don't like us doing this right here but i like us trying to drum up some attention for fernando mendoza but it feels like everything we know about him says he's a guy and he's tough people forget he's an absolute dog he can take shots wants to take shots con man yeah tough son of a bitch and to everything tony just said about what he did in college you gotta also think like hey he also has the number one new head coach the offensive coordinator who won the super bowl last year with kubiak who basically completely changed that seattle seahawks offense you know you talk about sam donnell being in his first year going and when his super bowl then they get an all pro center that's gonna help the quarterback a lot that's gonna help ashen jinty a lot who still somehow had a thousand yard season after getting basically the least amount of yards before contact and nfl history but still ended up with a thousand yards colt miller is a pretty certified left tackle and then brock bowers being the number one option he is they're one of those teams that the number one receiver is their tight end he's all pro you think about that comment of a football robot from heaven it's like jinty i think could be described like that uh fernando mendoza could probably be described like that he's six foot five fast super smart has an incredible arm like if you're gonna build a football robot quarterback from the heavens i think you would have a lot of pieces of what fernando has in there max crossby i think is eight you would certainly say uh a never-ending engine or battery i mean i mean they kind of have a linger bomb bomb brady as the as the owner a person like there is a lot of like are the raiders not ass huh we'll see is that what we're doing right now i think they're headed towards the carolina panthers has good football team and carolina panthers are they gonna become a grateful thing they're headed to that's very on paper they are much much much much better than they were at this point on paper yes the fact that max crossby was gone and then now he's actually back right like oh somehow they add an all-pro to a team that they didn't have a lot of good players it's unbelievable what they've been able to do and that is a real thing like the on paper thing the Patriots and the seahawks two years ago top five and spending in free agency like there is an actual kind of correlation i believe every team that was in the top three of the most spent team in free agency won like three more games the year after and the raiders and the titans would be the two teams that were kind of at the top the list this year hey no risk in no biscuit that's the NFL that's just shows the whole what a time hell yeah let's get the hell out of here AJ who you picking the night cool let's go calves nicks give me the cab i mean i want to pick the calves but i have a hard time give me the nicks tonight i'll take the nicks wow i will take the nicks is the first time he's ever gone against an ohio team i think so what's the situation like calves they're not they're not my team but you know i like i like their Ohio roots yeah they do have Ohio roots up there in Ohio uh mistake no i'm not gonna say it because i like Cleveland other people in the past maybe owed me what it said mistake by the lake yep but i was not gonna say that because i like Cleveland i appreciate Cleveland i like their fans up there but boy some of those stats that are being shown to us are not good and i think that is a heartbreaker in game one you had it now granted do they have the dog mentality to come back is james harden going to get back in the kitchen see you're gonna start cooking he's gonna be the guy that's going to get an opportunity to maybe be who exactly he is which is one a for the calves he's atkinson gonna dial up some place definitely see where's the guy with a popped calf gonna maybe run roughshod on him and strategy with uh jaylon big shot uh big potty brunson as perks says timothy chalamet is gonna look so cool always does ben stiller is gonna be fantastic yeah tracy morgan's gonna bring it yeah i mean it's gonna be atomic in there maybe it's gonna be rattling remember shawm said he couldn't believe he got out of there on earth like because the place was moving luckily earthquake they measure those in the rick skill we need to get a rector on masses square garden yeah eastern conference final new york next win kind of a casual fourth quarter feels like doesn't it i don't like that because then that would mean that cleaving tabs will kind of just quit i think there's a chance they do try to save up for home we gotta go maybe either that or i think if they don't win this game tonight they're gonna get swept there's a lot of people saying that is that just because we saw such a collapse at the end in front of everybody that's just our recency bias of watching what happened to them thinking they would never be able to do they're they're in the eastern conference final though right but every person we talk to about the game with the nicks with the layoff is like hey if the calves steal game one of this series like then we'll see that there is a chance that they can't but if they don't like they have to win game one and for them to lose in that demoralizing of a way it's just like i i don't i mean i think they have to win tonight otherwise it's blouses all right i'll take nicks minus six and a half even though i would love to watch cleveland do their thing i would like to watch the calves battle like they did against the stunts that would be really cool to kind of watch that take place and then in the hockey a j you think the canadiens fresh off that buffalo sabers ride which was electrifying have a way to beat the carolina hurricanes down in the buzzsaw that is in front of the 40 000 cany acts that are going to be going crazy a j who do you like how do you like it i'm going to have to pick against big perk here give me the carolina hurricanes at home i got a tweet from montreal today yeah oh yeah the city tweeted me how are we feeling about the obs with glasses on the emoji i don't know if that means they're gonna watch or they're trying to see in 2020 vision sure what i like to say is i do love their team i like the way they play puck i like the way their city goes absolutely apeshit for the montreal canadiens i like that they got a young goalie that says i can go a hundred more games you fucking at least seems like they are real grit and jams type team up there but with that being said give me the cany acts a hundred times out of a hundred times okay messy bocoup or all the incredible times that you're about to deliver to sport society but the cany acts i think or maybe our representative of what maybe montreal's fans are so we need to think that we just like the olympics and i don't like to bring it up okay i don't like but wayno kind of brought it up yeah true i don't like bringing it up but like the olympic i i think i think we win this one and by we i mean the carolina hurricanes who i don't know if they're going to win the entire standing couple but i do sure i'm currently going with the american crowd being such a problem that the canadiens who have a phenomenal barn oh yeah phenomenal bar your skate but the jarvi lads from manitoba are going to be in there that the the hurricanes fans have been tailgating since yesterday for this thing ton dig just walked out oh no he was doing this through the office he was doing this as i was talking there while he's staring at me you know i'm happy he did make the decision just kind of bail out that door there because i was getting a little anxious so what was going on be honest you think that's pooper p that looked like maybe p that looked like the yeah piping hot pies yeah is that what you're yeah piping hot pies i'm gonna set up there myself so all in favor of that probably being a piss say i there's a chance it was a dump we'll see but i like the caniacs even though i love what mario's doing of course and you can pick mario when they go back to mario yeah because mario's environment might be the reason exactly what i think the hurricanes got it i'm on the hurricanes tonight as well all right aj you're awesome we should wait what if it's a long dump i don't i don't know if it's a dump a jay if this goes in a hoop right over here over sacky the elephant a jay hawk will give 20 people 500 dollars nice okay okay thank you a jay oh wait a minute oh as we wait for ton digs who will so graciously give 30 people 500 dollars okay thank you so much for doing that ton we appreciate Tony Tony give 30 that's very nice at tonig dogs do that 30 people 500 dollars all you're gonna have to do is repost this post say something nice to somebody and maybe you could be randomly selected to be one of the 35 hundred other winners it was a piss oh geez i don't know if you heard he almost gave away 15 000 yeah i heard i i heard giggles when i walked away so i had to see what was going on it was a piss yeah piping hot pies piping hot when we don't take the the break at that one i don't think we ever have but then we carry for another hour yeah yeah it gets stuff from me too i'm starting to bop a little bit here but ton we're waiting for you thanks appreciate it be a friend tell a friend something nice about change of life we're gonna sit together we'll see you tomorrow what a great night of sport okay let's enjoy it all thank you so much aj great work today we're proud of you for what you accomplished today and the adversity you battled thank you i'm gonna go ice my head good move hoggle hell yeah smart hell yeah both of them team on me team on three one two three team goodbye