Ep:202 Appalachia Bigfoot Encounters

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And it's funny because she said something. She said, oh, it's a juvenile Sasquatch. So we continued up the trail. And when you get up to a certain point, there's a creek right there. As soon as we get to the other side and we start working our way up on the trail, the model of nowhere, right between me and her, she was right directly right behind me. And this big stone comes flying. Boom. Like, what the heck was that? And I'm looking across from where we just came from. And as we're staring over there, somewhere in the background, you hear, and having that rock throwing and hearing that makes me think that I got to the point where, okay, maybe that wasn't a bear. I'm not going to lie, I felt a little on edge. I'd like to welcome Daniel Benoit to the show. Daniel is, at this point, an OG in the Bigfoot world, I would say. And he is the founder of the East Coast Bigfoot Researchers Organization. And he has, man, been around for a long time and doing the damn thing. Daniel, thanks for joining me, man. Hey, thank you for having me. This is a pleasure. And, yeah, I feel honored to be on your show. The honor is all mine, sir. Long overdue, you know. We've at least been aware of one another for a lot of years now. yeah absolutely so what got you started in all of this bigfoot stuff well you know to take you guys back i mean uh you know as i tell people and i believe this has done it for a lot of people and we are most of everyone anyone involved even if you're just getting involved everyone at one point in time has heard of the roger pattinson bob dingham footage um that was a big part of what got me into this and to see that footage you know I know it's been debated even to this day there's a lot of people that believe in it a lot of people that don't however the way I viewed it was very fascinating it was like boom it was like a slap in the face like whoa look there's actually footage that took place that came about back in 1967 and to this day that video footage has been dissected left and right and of course there's been all kinds of speculation over the years and some somewhat recent but you know saying you know there's naysayers and and a lot of positive you know presentation brought up on that film but you know i will say that was a big part of what got me into it it opened up a very strong curiosity a spark of curiosity that actually draw me in it drew me in real real deep you know and what started off as a curiosity turned to a spark of you know passion you know and that passion grew and it's still growing to this day i mean i've been involved with the bigfoot research for going on 16 years now uh here we are in 2026 and uh yeah yeah so i mean like i said you know i will tell you when i first got involved with all this as well uh as i started doing some research or what you know what little research i started off doing um and then getting on the social media i was actually blown away because i didn't realize there was so many people involved with bigfoot research i started learning about the different forums and the facebook groups and you know and i started to come across all these different uh sayings or theories that people were sharing and throwing out there now you know for the record i didn't jump on i didn't jump on board with all the theories but i was i was like the kid in the class of just taking notes right you know i was i just wanted to see what people were having to say you know i started you know hearing people out and you know and you know and as i got more involved i started reading up on things and you know whatever literature that was available and you know i watched a lot of different films and I started, you know, get involved with some of the podcasts and, you know, and, you know, and then here I am, you know, as far as reading and learning what I can outside of the field, I was like, you know, it had me more, more alerted when I was out in the field, you know, I was, I guess my senses were more heightened, you know, to really pay attention to things out there in nature. and you know I'm not going to say right away things were starting you know starting to really stand out but things did start to stand out eventually when I was really more um you know like my senses were more keen I was more keen to being alerted and looking at things I wasn't normally looking for you know for example some of the first things I started to notice I did start finding some tracks you know um that were like, okay, whoa, what is this? You know, I mean, could this be, you know, I don't know, maybe, you know, I mean. Yeah, so, I mean, like I said, you know, you start to pay attention to things that you never did before. I remember, correct me if I'm wrong, I think it was you, though, and it's been some years. It seems like I remember you posting a video on the Internet where you were driving somewhere and you had stopped the car and taken video of these tracks that were going across the road where something had come out of a creek and left wet footprints on the pavement going across the road and into the woods. Yes, that was actually in one of my main research areas. I was actually camping in the area and I was coming back into the location. I was coming down the Forest Road in the George Washington National Forest and I'm riding along, you know, of course, you know, you don't ride that fast down the road, so, you know, it's gravel and it's got potholes and, you know, so I was driving down in my blazer that I had at the time and I come across, I take notice of it, I said, whoa, whoa, whoa, what the heck was that? I stopped the vehicle right away in the middle of the road, I get out, walk behind the vehicle to what I just, and drove over, and And what I'm looking at is now some people say they may have been bears, which that is very possible. Sure. But, I mean, you can see what looks like humanoid foot tracks. They were wet tracks, you know, and they were coming out of the wood line. Now, there is a small marchy area where they came from out of. But there was a, you know, there was a small little grass on the hillside that comes down to the dish line and where it comes out to the road. and they were going across in an angle over onto the other side of the road. And yeah, I did do a short video on this. There was a short video on this. Like I said, the way I looked at them and like I said, what I had available back then was a cheap camera phone. The quality was whatever. It showed what I was seeing. It kind of had me pumped and had me excited. I mean, of course, when I shared it, I had some people like, yeah, that, yeah, you had a Sasquatch crossing there or blah, blah, blah. Then, you know, it's like people were saying bear, which I didn't rule that out because there is a lot of bears in this area. I've had a lot of encounters of bears, some close, some distant. I just brought that up because it kind of plays into what you were talking about, about whenever you get into the subject of Bigfoot, you start noticing things that you probably wouldn't have noticed previously. I would assume beforehand you would have just driven right down that road and not even cared about the wet spots in it or anything else. But how did the whole research thing come about? You had an interest because of the Patterson Gimlin film. When did you decide to, like, start going out in the woods and actually looking for Bigfoot? Well, you know, here's the thing. I mean, I always like to go out on heights. you know um you know i grew up in the woods even since i was a young kid i mean dad had me out either you know i used to tag along with dad hunting um you know but most of the time growing up when i was younger i was always playing in the woods and you know i loved being out in the woods uh the woods the forest whatever it was like a i don't know it was like a a natural recreation for me just to be out there but you know and i'm camping the camping is another big thing to me I do a lot of camping. I do some even cold weather camping. Of course, right now, that's kind of limited right now because we got snow and a lot of ice on the ground out here in Virginia. But, you know, so, yeah, that was a big thing. But it gave me motivation to go out there to do this. You know, I mean, I wanted to be out there. You know, I started researching areas that had reported Bigfoot sightings or and also like. my main research here right now, now I started going out there before I learned about activity up there. You know, I just like, I just looked at areas, you know, watching stuff on TV or YouTube, you know, I look at areas like, okay, well, these are where Bigfoot, some people have a Bigfoot sightings in these areas. And the national forest here in Virginia, there's a lot of the woods out there. It's like, man, this looks very squatchy is what I did come to call it because where are these people out in the Pacific Northwest are looking at their forests and their trees on these videos. The atmosphere where I camp at and where I've been spending time at, I said, man, this looks like where Bigfoot would be. It's very heavily wooded. It's thick in a lot of areas out there. Yeah, there's a few hiker trails here and there. People hunt there during the hunting season. It's primitive camping where people do camp there during the nice warm weather and everything. but then again, I started spending time out there. I was like, this would be a good habitat if there's a Sasquatch in the area. I think this is where I need to be. Starting a business can be overwhelming. You're juggling multiple roles, designer, marketer, logistics manager, all while bringing your vision to life. Shopify helps millions of business sell online. Build fast with templates and AI descriptions and photos, inventory, and shipping. Sign up for your 1 euro per month trial and start selling today at Shopify.nl. That's Shopify.nl. It's time to see what you can accomplish with Shopify by your side. Where cost-effective insurance is possible? Go to ASR.nl slash duurzamekeuzes. This is ASR for you and a sustainable community. ASR does it. So, we can listen to your podcast now. he found out you know i've been talking to people where i've been camping at this and that well this one guy came out of come out of the woodwork you know just started sharing you know he said he's he's up there hunting all the time he bear hunts he deer hunts too but he's normally a bear hunter and he told me it was the same location where i camp at he said he was riding up the forest road one evening he said it was probably i don't know i think he mentioned it was probably close to six o'clock or so in the evening where it was still daylight but it was just before it got dark and he told me the exact spot from where he was and which I was pretty familiar with that area and he told me a story where he had what he described as around probably six feet tall, dark brown you know covered in hair around six feet tall comes out in the middle of the fourth road has a brief hesitation as it kind of slightly glanced at him, but he continues moving, going across through the woods over towards the direction where the river was. And he shared that with me. And he shared, you know, again, he shared in the area where he was at. And I was like, whoa. I questioned him. I said, you know, like, why is he telling me this? I never said nothing. Nobody I knew that, nobody I worked and knew about me looking for a big foot. I never talked about anything like that to my coworkers. but uh i said i looked at him i said who told you about me sounds like he's very little people at that time knew what i was doing and he said what are you talking about i said well oh by the way here's this guy he's a hunter and his name is hunter by the way okay yeah yeah he was older gentleman i said hunter i said yeah who told you about me how do you why would you tell me that because I said that's what I do I said I'm looking for bigfoot I research bigfoot and he was kind of like what you know I said I just found it odd that he came out and told me that yeah you know not knowing anything about me that I'm involved with this but I would nonetheless I was excited that he told me this I was like this is awesome it kind of made me more excited you know like kind of like a kid getting you know being presented a new gift or something like you know it was kind of like It's hard to explain, but it was exciting that he shared that with me. Now, my supervisor, once they started learning more about me, the word got around. And I talked about it here and there. And then my main supervisor, who's still working at this time, his wife, which is much older than him, she retired. And he told me, he said, my wife, Sue. said she saw her big foot and uh she ended up coming on she ended up coming to work one day and met up with me on my lunch break and sat down and told me her story oh wow now yeah she had a big foot sighting at that time i mean i haven't i haven't worked in this location for probably about 10 years but at the time when i worked there when she came in the story her story was about 25 years old at that time um and of course this is on the back road well probably about five miles from where i live now and she told me she was driving down such and such road and she was driving along and from out of nowhere along the tree line she said this thing had to be easily seven feet tall on two feet covered in hair it comes across the road goes across the pavement and continues on on the other side, which is there's a field there and where there's no tree line, but it's an open field with a creek bed that runs across the field. He said, this thing came running across the field and continued on on two feet running across. And she grew up here in the valley. By the way, yeah, I live in the Shenandoah Valley here in Virginia and we're surrounded by the Blue Ridge Mountains and then we've got the Alleghenies out to the west. And she said, I grew up here. I've seen bears all my life growing up out here, living here. She said, this was no bear. This was seven feet tall on two feet, and it stayed at a steady pace. You know, she didn't describe it as being too fast, but it was a pretty steady run. You know, and it came out from the tree line going across the road and continued on. And, you know, I really appreciated her story, you know. And little by little, over the years, more and more people learned about me because I put my name out there. I got to the point where I was not ashamed of what I was doing. You know, I wanted the answers. I wanted as much as possible to learn the research and kind of hopefully maybe putting some kind of pattern together you know and sure enough you know I had business cards made up you know I was leaving them everywhere I could yeah of course you're going to get your typical you know jokesters out there I've gotten them I had young girls calling up trying to leave a message on my phone you can hear the other ones laughing in the background. It's all a joke. It comes with the territory. You're going to get that when you put yourself out there like that. But then again, like I said, I've met up with people, eyewitnesses. You're going to meet a lot of people. At the same time, I've come to learn you have to keep an open mind on some of these stories. You have to take everything you hear with a grain of salt. You want to believe these people. you know but at the same time it's like are they pulling your leg you know um but you know you kind of pick up and start developing a sense of um i don't know the right way to put this but you start noticing when people are like really serious um the tone of voice and you know their body you know movement um so yeah i mean even recently i met up with eyewitnesses you know some of these eyewitnesses i've been meeting up with recently i mean their stories are not fresh but they're stories that I can still document. I've done a lot of one-on-one interviews. I go out, I meet with people. I've got scheduled meetings with people now coming up, both in West Virginia, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, South Carolina. That's just the start of it. I'm trying to get more involved with this. Of course, a lot of it goes hand-in-hand with my filming projects. Everybody I have scheduled to meet up with has agreed to let me film them, which is awesome. so um but yeah like i said ever since i've been involved uh it's like the word of mouth has gotten around you know and people learn about me so yeah i want to you know get out there as much as possible so you know i'm all about being boots on the ground um just you know there's so much you can do outside of the field you know like i say that i pay attention to you know people share podcasts with me all the time, you know. But, you know, it's funny, even though I host a podcast myself, I'm the type of person when somebody shares a podcast with me, it's like, okay, cool, I'm glad you were on that podcast. But, you know, I was like, I'm the type of person, I know, maybe I'm selfish, but I go after podcasts where I use podcasts for my research. I look up in Google search or whatever, I do a search on YouTube. You know, I was like, well, I'm in Virginia. I like to know how much more is out there in Virginia, you know. Of course, I've expanded. Like I said, I've been up and down the East Coast. But being that I live here in Virginia, I feel like Virginia is highly underestimated. Oh, for sure, for sure. You don't really hear that many people talk about Virginia in regards to Bigfoot, but, I mean, it's the prime habitat for these things. Do you run across a lot of people that are, like, aware that Bigfoot's around in that area? Yes and no. I mean, at the same time, yes. You know it funny It some of the a lot of the older people that will come forward Really Yeah You know you think you hear more from younger people but it the older people that grew up here You know, there's people that never really spoke to people. But it's like they develop a trust in you. There's like somehow they get to know you or feel comfortable with you for them to open up and start sharing stuff with you. you know, so, I mean, I've got a good group of people. I got a small resource group right here based out of Virginia. And these individuals know people that know people that know people. Is there a certain type of encounter that people have there? You know, like in the Pacific Northwest, you hear a lot of, you know, the kind of the silent, you know, forest giant, you know, spirit of the woods type encounters where a fleeting glimpse of something or whatever, and then in the South, you get more aggressive type encounters, it seems. Is there a certain pattern that you've noticed over the years where you're at? Well, yes, I would say that a lot of the people I spoke to that had sightings here. Based off of what I picked up learning from these eyewitnesses is that they are very curious. when I say they, I'm referring to the Sasquatch, Pigfoot, whatever. It's just like people are some of these people have to be in the right place at the right time. You know, of course, none of these people were looking for it. Right. For example, one of the most recent eyewitness I met up with she had a sighting on her sister's farm. You know, she goes over there to hang out, spend time with the horses, and, you know, of course, just in general with her family there, and she ended up seeing two of them. At first, I started off as only seeing one, and she was over by, she wasn't far off from where the horse was, and she just so happened to look over, and here's this large, dark, she described it as very slender, which being, you know, hearing that description as hearing a tall, slender one, it's not the first time I heard this, You know, most reports you hear, oh, they're pretty wide, they're pretty bulky, this and that. This happened to be a tall, slender, black one. And then she said one that looked like almost like a whitish color. She described the other one as a white come walking up the side off the edge of the property by the tree line where the edge of the field is with the fences. You know, like I said, she didn't see that one right away. It was a tall, dark, slender one she first saw. You know, so I'm just using this one as an example. Like I said, it was just standing there. Why are they there? This family never had no reports of anything happening to their horses. They have cattle on the property. There's never been no history of any of their cattle or their livestock in this center or anything. In this particular area, I was actually glad to get out to this area because I've heard stories from this particular location where there's been sightings all around. I still have yet to meet up with another eyewitness who I've known for some time. This older woman has been wanting to meet up with her. She's been sharing information from, you know, she's seen them out there. She said, Daniel, I still hear stuff around the property. I hear tree knocks and I hear weird sounds out here. Starting a business can be overwhelming. 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And, you know, like I said, there's been a history of Bigfoot sightings and reports that are in this area. And that's like, it's time for me to stop ignoring this area. You know, here I am, I'm focused more out in the mountains and there's stuff going on way out here, you know? So, and I grew up not far from these people, you know? I didn't always live in the Channel Valley. I grew up east of the Blue Ridge, you know, And I lived in a very small rural area, probably about 45 minutes from where these people have, you know, and Lake Anna, for example, anyone that may listen here that's familiar with Louisa County, Virginia, Lake Anna is a lot of Bigfoot reports. There's a lot of activity out there. Of course, yes, they have a lot of bear out there, too. There's bear hunters out there and everything else. But this area here is something I need to continue to focus on. So I have yet to meet up with other people out there. But as far as other reports, you know, like I said, I've had people driving up the mountain, you know, a woman and her daughter. Some years ago, I remember meeting up with her. It was that that roadway going up the mountain. It's actually a very busy, active roadway. People travel, you know, east and west going over the top of that mountain on part of the Blue Ridge. And, you know, I recall she was driving up the road, you know, driving up the mountainside. And she took me to the exact location and she pointed, she showed me exactly where it was. And I, you know, we did a reenactment at, you know, we got there and everything else. You know, you know, here's this, she described it. I'm six foot tall. And she easily described it as being two feet taller than me. So, you know, here we got a eight foot subject, you know, eight foot. What she described as a big foot and very wide and broad, probably well over four feet wide. And she said, it stood out like a sore thumb. As she was driving up the mountain, she's looking over, and her eyes are glued on what she's seeing, and her daughter is up in the front passenger seat. While she's looking at it, she says she's tapping on her daughter's leg, like, whoa, whoa, what the heck? She's, again, at the same time, her eyes are glued on it, and she's like, dang, I almost went off the road staring at this thing. She said, I couldn't believe what the heck I was seeing. and she drives up after they pass it they go up to the top and she turns around and comes back down to try to look again to get another look of course by that time she said it was gone so i was like wow and you know you know i'm just throwing these out there these are a couple examples of based off of what i believe for them to be very uh curious yeah you know they'd like to stand back and observe what's going on you know i mean they see all the traffic coming up and down these roads uh in general, I think, like the other story I told you, they got horses and cattle. I don't know if they're what exactly it is that draws them to these areas. I just think they're curious. They want to be nosy. What's going on on this property? There's horses here, there's cows here, stuff like that. Then again, in some instances, you hear about children being involved when their sightings occurred. Children and also females. Women in general. I can recall in my main research area this one area I used to venture into a lot. I would find some interesting things that would stand out. Some oddball looking tree structures that would be interesting to look at. But the whole time I used to go in this area by myself, not once have I ever heard anything. But I recall taking my daughter when she was just a young teenager. I had her with me one time. And I took her in there. We went in. And as soon as we got so far into this area, all of a sudden we were hearing all these screams and whoops and hollers and all kinds of craziness. And she's like, Daddy, are those coyotes? And I know coyotes very well. Trust me. I've been around coyotes quite often. And I've heard them some close, a lot in the distance. And I know the way a solo coyote will sound versus the whole group of them. When we got on there, she asked me, she said, Daddy, are those coyotes? I said, no, those are not coyotes. I mean, it sounded like you were walking into a primate exhibit at the zoo, and all of a sudden all the primates started going off and making their crazy sounds. You know, that's the best way I know how to describe it. It was like walking into a primate exhibit at a zoo, you know. and trust me I don't know how else to describe it but that's the best way I can so I've been to I've done a lot of solo ventures in the woods I've been out and done a lot of hiking exploring by myself a lot of people are like you go out there by yourself yeah why not I know it's not safe people think it's irresponsible but you should always take somebody with you which I guess that's true safety is in numbers right but It's just, I just always had a passion to go out there to event, you know, to venture into these areas. You know, I don't have nobody to slow me down. I can move at my own pace and listen the way I, you know, you know, just pick up on things that normally if you have others with you, they're either talking or distracted by something, you know, they're not focusing on what we're there for, you know. but thank god you know i got a good group that's with me now that is on alert and looking for what i look for you know they're they're keen they're they're tuned in to nature like i am you know and i will tell you the people i have involved with me now um with their backgrounds it's actually been very beneficial big time it really has they're very observant because uh for example uh One of the couples that are part of my group, David and Melissa Lester, which they both met in the Army. Now, David is retired full-time from the Army and also retired from a second career full-time from the local law enforcement up here. And so, yeah, he's got two retirements under his belt, you know, like I said, both military and law enforcement. You know, he's 67, over 68 years old. And, you know, here's a gentleman who loves being out there. And we've actually experienced some interesting things, you know, together while we're out there doing our investigations in the area we're focusing in right now. So, yeah, it's been a up to this point, it has been quite the adventure. And, you know, hopefully we might have answers someday. But, you know, it's just when we experience things out there and we see things out there, it just leaves a scratch in our head. You know, we want answers, but it leaves us with more questions. It really does. What kind of things are you experiencing in your area? Are people having sightings? Are you getting rock throwing, wood knocks? What kind of stuff's going on? I've actually had, I've had actually rocks thrown at me. Well, one in particular, it was about a football sized stone. It's pretty good rock. Actually, yes, it is. A real funny story about that. I was hiking up this trail. This is not in my main research here when this happened. But I was walking down this very narrow trail that went deep into the woods. And I had the girl I was dating at the time. She was with me. And she, you know, she was, I don't know. I can't recall. She was a full time believer, but she was interested in the subject. So, you know, she was like, she agreed to go on a hike with me, you know, and we're walking up by this narrow trail. and we got to this one spot where it kind of slightly opened up a little bit so and i had a smartphone at the time this was some years ago this is kind of like when smartphones were i don't know i'm sure they had better ones out there i had smartphone i had was not the best quality it was a cheap smartphone so and you know you know i had a camera on it so i took advantage of using the camera and we're looking off the side of the trail we're looking up you know there's a of thick mountain world through there and you can see beyond that it kind of went up a hill and something caught our attention looking over there like what the heck is that something dark over there so i pulled my phone out and i start recording and i you know i panned my phone over i opened it up you know expanded a little bit zoom in and i'm holding it the best i can you know because you know with those phones you can't pan in too much without it getting very shaky and stored looking. I'm holding it up and we're both looking through my phone and I'm holding it as steady as I can. Whatever was up on that hill, we could see something dark moving in the bushes. It looked like it was going up and down, maybe side to side. Just nonchalantly, whatever. It was just moving around. What the heck is that? It's funny because she said something. She said, oh, it's a juvenile Sasquatch. You can't make out what it is, but that's what she said. You could hear her say that on the video. Yeah, it's one of my older videos on my YouTube channel and some other YouTube channel network that shares a lot of other people's content shared on theirs. Because I had people say, hey, look, someone so picked up your YouTube video and they're sharing this video. I said, okay, cool. Well, long story short, you know, viewing whatever we were viewing, I just thought, whatever. I ruled it off as it's probably just a small bear up on the hillside there, you know. So we continued up the trail and when you get up to a certain point, there's a creek right there and you have to be able to, you know, in order to continue on where the trail was, you have to cross that creek. Thank goodness the water was fairly low and we were able to step across on the stones. And as soon as we get to the other side and we start working our way up on the trail, from out of nowhere, right between me and her, she was right directly right behind me, like maybe a foot behind me. And this big stone comes flying. Boom! And I look at her, I looked at down the ground, I'm like, what the heck was that? And all of a sudden, I back up a little bit, and I'm looking across from where we just came from. Of course, you can't make nothing out. Again, it's really heavily up for us over there, a lot of heavy, thick mountain lore. And we're looking across over there, and as we're staring over there, somewhere in the background, you hear, woo! Starting a business can be overwhelming. 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We got to go back down that same trail to get back out to where we came from. But sure enough, we got back down there. We made our way back out of the field. We didn't have nothing happen after that, but that was the one moment I had a large rock thrown at me and it was like I said, the whole incident got me thinking. Like I said, yeah, we probably got too close for comfort because never had a rock thrown at me before out in the middle of the woods so it's like the only thing I think of if that wasn't a Sasquatch unless it was a person over there hiding, they had a pretty good strong arm to throw that rock across that creek and I don't know like I said, they had me on edge we got too close for comfort they wanted us away from the area I felt like you know, I've actually met up with other eyewitnesses in other locations where they've had rocks thrown at them while on horseback going down trails. You know, so, you know, the only thing I can think of when it comes to that, I believe they don't want you in that area. I believe it's a warning. You know, could they hit, I mean, I believe they could have hit one of us if they really wanted to. They got it pretty darn close. So, but yeah, that was some years ago. but uh more recently here during one of our recent camp us um you know we have stuff happen right at camp as well to be more specific i mean we want to relate it to more of the paranormal um you know no and for the record i i want to be clear about this and dave my david my buddy david is part of uh our group he knows for a fact i was never getting involved with paranormal. He knows I didn't get involved. I didn't ever do any paranormal research or anything like this. But we're in a very particular area which we're slowly learning more about the history of this location. It's very primitive. We've come across out in the middle of the woods. There's old remnants of a foundation to homesteads that once existed out there. We don't know if people died out there. We don't know what happened out there. But there has been Bigfoot reports in this area. One of the Bigfoot reports came from a group, not a group, but a couple that camped with us one year where the wife thought she saw a bear. Well, for example, I'll run you guys through that real quick. Well, her and her husband from our campsite, they drove up the forest road. There's a small lake in the area. but in order to excuse me in order to get there you have to drive up and park at a gate and then walk in three quarters of a mile well as they were pulling up into that little lot they were turning in and the wife in the passenger seat was looking over and at the gate on just on the other side of the gate she said she's telling her husband there's a bear over there you know and then that was it she didn't get into no other details after they got back to the camp and now started telling Wallace and David that were still there and when she started sharing details she said it was standing there by the tree that was overhanging by the gate and all of a sudden it ran across real fast and went down into the ravine whatever and so wait a minute they were like what do you mean it ran across she said yeah it was on two feet and it ran across like wait a minute this woman her husband will tell you she's a steady slicker she's never seen wildlife before you know maybe a deer but she's never seen a bear in real life and here she's talking about this thing was on two feet of course all the details were coming out after she got back she said yeah stood out there and then ran across real fast on two feet it was black like bears don't run on two feet you know They've been known to stand up on two feet and maybe walk a short distance, but you never hear of a bear running on two feet, especially as fast as she's better. So here and now, it's like, whoa. Now, they did a reenactment of this. This was towards the end of our camp. I had already left before everyone. So they agreed to do it. They actually did a short film on this where the husband was interviewing her. she was getting the details in the location where she saw it and everything else. Yeah, I mean, I'm convinced that she did see something, you know, which is interesting. Now, years prior to this, I've shared pictures of large humanoid tracks and just a few inches of snow in the same general area, just on some of the back roads that surround this area. You know I always heard of different things about this location and you know I heard of mountain lions in this area which here on the East Coast mountain lions are not supposed to exist here but there a large reports of them you know So that's another area. That's another thing that drew my interest to us to pay attention to this area. Because I'm fascinated with mountain lions, you know, as well as Bigfoot and other cryptids. But however, some of the experiences we've had out there, again, I want to contribute to, we want to say paranormal, but, you know, I don't know if that's proper to really say that. But, you know, again, paranormal for people, when you think of paranormal, you think of ghosts and spirits and this and that. Paranormal is something where there's occurrences and phenomenon that are not easily explained. So, you know, that's kind of how I look at it. um like i said we've had devices at our camp um brand new devices fully charged go dead out of nowhere from you know uh we've had devices turn on on their own you know which has been very strange and bizarre um now one particular night we were doing one of our night hikes it was we had people um we had a few people left at base camp uh because they can't really be on feet that you know foot on too long as far as hiking as long as we do you know it's cool we like to have people at base camp anyway you know can't keep eye on things while the rest of the group you know we're go out and explore and you know see what we find here or whatever so as we're working our way back towards um our base camp you know we're it was probably about between 10 i want to say it was between 10 and 11 o'clock at night we're walking down the forest road and david was probably about maybe 10 feet out in front of me. And he was like, Daniel, there's a light over there in the woods. And I walk down towards him and I look over, holy crap, what the heck is that? And sure enough, we're looking at this big round ball like I mean, me and him describe it slightly different. I think I describe it as seeing it a little bit bigger than what he describes it as. But if I had to describe the size of it, it looked like the size of a basketball. And what I saw was a round ball of light. And here's what's interesting. It wasn't moving. Like, you know, some people describe orbs as floating and moving around. However, what I saw was a round ball of light. It did not illuminate nothing around it, which was strange. Yeah. Nor did it project a beam. Like, yeah, it did not project a beam like a flashlight. And we seen it for a good few seconds or so. And all of a sudden, it went out. immediately thinking that maybe there's somebody over there. I couldn't dismiss that. Immediately, I pulled out my thermal. I started viewing the area, and I didn't pick up no heat signatures or anything over in the area. Dave was like, stay there. David walked in. He didn't turn the lights on. He was walking in total dark. He walked down the forest road so far and pulled out his thermal to try to capture it in a different angle. I stayed focusing. I couldn't pick nothing up, nothing moving, no heat whatsoever. And I got a really good thermal imager. There was nothing over there. Nothing. I don't understand it. I mean. How long ago was this? That was actually back in May. Yeah, because we do group camp out usually in May and September. So it was, yeah, it was last May. Was that the first time you've seen something like that? The first time I've seen lights? No, not me. The first time I seen lights was two years ago when I was in Pennsylvania. Because I spent a lot of time in Pennsylvania doing some research. I've done a lot of camping up there. And there was two different times in Pennsylvania I've seen lights. And these lights were different than what we saw here in Virginia. The first time I seen lights, which is very weird. I don't know how to describe these other than seeing stars in the woods. And it was during the month of January. It was between January and February. And I'll run you through that story real quick. The girl I was with, we wanted the area to go start checking out. She was very much involved a little bit for herself. And, you know, we were like, okay, you know. She said there's a state forest so many miles away from here. So during the daytime, one time we went riding around, checking out the areas and stuff. I said, man, this is beautiful out here, you know. we wanted the area we were trying to find the area where we come out and park and just hang out you know one evening and after riding our ass was along like we found a location i said okay we're going to come back out here this evening you know this was early in the day we came back out there now i mind you this area this particular area we were at excuse um it was a small field you know there was these boulders that came across the edge of the field on one side and of course you get another woods around you so we you know again we got out there you know we were dressed pretty warm it was very very cold and you know we were there for some time and you know stayed there after it got dark and she's sitting down on one of the lower boulders and i'm like three boulders back and i'm standing on top of it she's sitting down facing out one direction and it was dead quiet. We weren't hearing nothing. No animals, owls, nothing. I was like, man, we should be hearing something out here. It's dead quiet out here. And just for the heck of it, I said, I'm going to give up a couple whoops, just for shits and giggles. And I do that. I do whoop, whoop, two times. And right after that, it wasn't long right after that, straight out in front of me in my direction, you could clearly hear wood on wood. Knock. and then a second one happens but it sounded like it came down straight out in front of where she was knock I was like did you hear that she said yeah she was all excited I don't know who was excited more but we got responses I wasn't expecting nothing it was just whatever and then she's like she's telling me from her position I'm seeing eye shine over here I was like I'm looking, I'm not seeing nothing from my position, you know. And so I was like, I got down, I walked over to where she was at, I sat down right beside her. I said, where are you seeing eye shine at? Now, I was like, you know, she might be seeing deer or something, because there's a lot of deer in this area. Starting a business can be overwhelming. You're juggling multiple roles, designer, marketer, logistics manager, all while bringing your vision to life. Shopify helps millions of business sell online. Build fast with templates and AI descriptions and photos, inventory and shipping. Sign up for your one euro per month trial and start selling today at Shopify dot NL. That's Shopify dot NL. It's time to see what you can accomplish with Shopify by your side. So I'm looking over. I don't see eye shine. I'm staying, but I'm standing there. I'm trying to focus on what she's looking at. now what I started seeing is she didn't say nothing about I don't know if she was seeing the same thing right away or not all of a sudden I started seeing these different oddball little flashes of lights that looked like stars in a cluster like I was seeing red, I was seeing blue and I was seeing a few that looked like yellow I was like are you seeing all those little stars in the woods right there she said yeah I said well I don't see your eyes shine I'm telling her exactly what I'm seeing she said yeah I'm starting to see that too but apart from the eye shine again I just didn't see nothing that resembled the eye shine I'm just seeing these little sparkles and flashes in the woods and being as cold as it was I know for a fact these weren't lightning bugs you know I'm just seeing something I'm just seeing something I can't explain now she has a different theory and a different belief system on it she said what we're seeing she said that's energy that Bigfoot's putting out. I never heard such a thing. I'm pretty objective on a lot of stuff, but I don't know where her belief system came from, but here I am. I was like, hey, well, I'm going to consider that. I'm at the point where I got to keep an open mind, but I don't know if there's any truth behind that. I mean, I've spoken to others where they believe that too, but I don't know. That was just the first time ever seen any kind of weird lights in the woods at all period you know i mean you hear about it over the years and everything so i mean i just kind of wanted to get your take i know you had heard about people seeing orbs and stuff before and oh yeah you went a really long time without seeing any lights and now you see lights so i mean exactly do you think it's connected to Bigfoot somehow? Well, as much as I want to say yes, I can't do that yet, you know, because it's like, you know, we could assume and say yes, it is, but what proof do we have of that? You know, so I mean, however, I will add on a few months later, it was in the month of May, this is up in Pennsylvania, I was with a different group of people, a small group of people, you know, where we camped out and we were investigating the location. Now, out of the whole situation there, I will name the forest. The first of the lights was in Forbes State Forest, Blue Hole Division. For those who know Pennsylvania and the State Forest up there, again, that took place in Forbes State Forest in the Blue Hole Division. Now, a few months later, several miles away, we're in another part of the Forbes State Forest, but we're in the Mount Davis division. For the record, Mount Davis has the highest elevation in the state of Virginia. I mean, excuse me, the state of Pennsylvania, which is only about 3,000 feet, which is Virginia averages. Our mountains here in Virginia average 3,000 up to 5,000, almost 6,000. But, you know, this particular area, I didn't know much about the area. We just learned of this area where we could set up camp and camp there. And I don't remember what night it was. I don't want to say it was the first night. It could have been the second night, maybe. I can't recall what night it was. But from where our campsite was, you know, I was walking away from where all the tents were. And I was looking across the other side from where we pulled in. And on the other side where it's all pick fours over there, I'm looking over there. I'm like, whoa, wait a minute. What is that? All of a sudden, I see these four different lights. now I say different but they're they all had the same color except some were a little bit bigger I would say some like at least two of them I could describe just a little bit bigger than a softball and there was like I said there was total four of them they weren't in a straight row but they weren't they were spread apart and they kind of like zigzag you know they weren't in a straight pattern and I'm looking at them and the way I can describe them they look like a blue dim dim light four bluish dim lights. I just stayed there looking at them for the longest time. They didn't go anywhere. They didn't move. I don't know what I was looking at. Maybe there's a house over there. I don't know. I walked away. I went to tell the others. There's some lights over there in the woods. and eventually a couple of the others they all end up walking over by the time we came back i wasn't seeing them they weren't there um so i was like okay the next day i was like we gotta go look i gotta go look over there i went in there and i walked through the woods never made that there's no houses over here you know and i ended up pulling up on google maps of the location we were in i started researching the area looking on the maps there's not the woods on top of woods over there eventually you keep going yeah you'll come through like a farm field way beyond there but there's nothing that would pick up there's no houses over there yeah but i what were what was i seeing in the trees over there you know there was four brown bluish dim lights you know so yeah that was strange i mean obviously in the bigfoot world especially on the internet you hear people talking about all sorts of paranormal things in regards to Bigfoot, you know, the mind speak portals, cloaking, all of it. Have you gotten any actual paranormal type reports from witnesses? And you have to know, I mean, I mean as far as I've learned more about hearing people talking about seeing orbs. Now people's, you know, when I describe and share this, you know, lights I've seen to others. Like, yeah, you've seen orbs, you've seen this, you've seen blah, blah, blah. I mean, I don't know. When you hear about orbs, you hear about orbs, they usually move around. Besides the first set of lights that were flashing like little stars, yeah, they were fluctuating. They were in a cluster and some kind of panned out a little bit. But seeing the lights at the one camp and then seeing the lighting here in Virginia, they were stationary. They weren't moving. So you know, it makes you really wonder what were we seeing? What was manifesting? You know, what was, you know, could that be Bigfoot related? Or could it be something totally different? Could they be spirits? You know, I mean, I try to keep an open mind on that kind of thing. But the more I dug into it, and I started researching, there was one podcast I came from. I don't know who the individual was, but I commented in the comments, hoping that maybe that individual might find me or reach out to me. but not only did they have Bigfoot experiences and sightings here in Virginia but one of the main things they talked about was seeing these flights on this property that was part of where the Civil War took place or where the Civil War soldiers passed through at some point in time they were seeing these orbs floating and moving around the edge of the property and on the same properties where they had Bigfoot activity and of course this was down in southwest Virginia somewhere a few hours south of me. However, hearing different stories and reports, I've actually did some research on the area we've been in. Come to find out, this area, and I'll go ahead and name it, I'll name the town and the area. I won't pinpoint the exact location where we had our experiences, but I will say the town, Fulks Run, Virginia. F-U-L-K-S, Fulks Run, Virginia. Now, Now, again, we want answers, so we're doing all the research we can on the location. So, Falls One Virginia has a history of Bigfoot, paranormal, and everything in between. And then the more I read, I came across a section about seeing strange lights in the woods. I said, what? That's what I want to hear. That's what I want, you know? I said, I screenshotted this information. I sent it to Dave. I said, look. I said, you know, between him and his wife, they're doing research. They're looking up information for me right now, for all of us. we're trying to learn more about the history of this location because from what I looked up, you won't hear the history of this location online. You want to know more about this location, you have to go to the local libraries or historical sites and read stuff in person. They don't have stuff online about this area, which is weird. Most places you would hear something online about something, but from what I found out online, that the Falks Run area is known for seeing strange lights in the woods and moving around. I don't know. I just found that fascinating. I was like, well, we experienced a strange light. We don't know what the heck it was, but we did. And again, there's other reports throughout the state of Virginia that have seen strange lights. And yes, there just happened to be Bigfoot sightings in these areas too with the strange lights. Is it a coincidence? Maybe. I don't know. So yeah, I mean, I can't say I've heard any other uh strange things besides seeing strange lights related or having a bigfoot sighting nearby um in other locations i can't really say like i've never heard of anything cloaking uh you know or or people seeing a bigfoot disappear from you know i mean i've heard those stories but not here in virginia you know i mean no other secondhand reports but um so yeah i mean no reports i've ever gathered, no one ever pointed out or shared that they've seen anything strange or bizarre related to it, other than seeing the physical Bigfoot Sasquatch in person. Yeah, I never heard anything otherwise. Not in my reports and investigations here in Virginia. I wanted to be clear on that. But everything I've always heard, when I spoke with eyewitnesses, everything's been a physical aspect. Do you ever hear any dogman sightings? Starting a business can be overwhelming. 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And this area, it's in Virginia, but it's borderline in the state of West Virginia. Again, I know this location very well. He was down there I forget what year it was, but I know he said there was a little bit of snow on the ground. It was just a few inches of snow. And he was down there. He was fishing. And when he was telling me his story, he said he couldn't help but feel like there was something there watching him. And while he was bent over getting into his tackle box, whatever, getting some whatever he was using for bait or whatever he was doing, he started hearing something. And all of a sudden, he was still bent over. And all of a sudden, he starts to lift his head up. And I want to say it was probably, I can't remember if he said 20, 30 feet out right off the edge of the tree line. he looks over and he sees this dark figure hunched over with a tail and he looks up at it he said here's this thing larger than a German Shepherd black on two feet hunched over kind of looking at him but the details he went into some pretty deep details and I'm kind of cutting through what I recall him telling me. But the way he talked about the story and the way it led up to everything. Now, I will tell you, a lot of people's stories, when I hear reports, a lot of times I get not all the time, but a lot of times if I get drawn into the story where I'm visualizing what the witness is sharing with me, I tend to believe that these people are telling something real. They've seen something. And the way he described it and the way he was talking to me, this guy really saw what he said he saw. I mean, I was feeling it. Yeah. You know, and here I am. And you know I I I you know what like I said when it comes to big I mean a dog man you know hand these kind of reports of a dogman or a werewolf I was never a believer in this but this story made me really think otherwise. What the heck is he... Where are these coming from? If Dogman is real, I'll tell you the reason why it's hard for me to believe in Dogman versus Bigfoot. There's a deep history on Bigfoot. The history of Bigfoot type beings go across the whole world in several continents, several countries. Just Native Americans alone have so much detail. Again, something like a Bigfoot and the way I look at Bigfoot, to me a Bigfoot makes more sense than any other cryptid. it's just where would a dogman come from I don't hear of a history of dogman you don't hear about that kind of thing it's not as common as a Bigfoot type creature so it's always been hard for me to comprehend a humanoid dog to me I'm sorry I know the people out there are like this guy don't always talk about it I'm being honest you know um i just don't know i just i never made sense to me you know but no i'm the i'm the same way i'm the same exact way you know like uh like you're saying i've definitely talked to some people where i 100 believe them and that's where i have the conflict because in my brain it doesn't make any sense exactly i mean i wanted to make sense i mean i want to be able to understand things like i said i mean you know like i said i'll repeat this again there's a history of bigfoot you know not just in north america i mean there's south america hey we know different parts throughout asia i mean even australia has got a bigfoot related bigfoot type being you know the yowie or whatever you know and so i mean there's so much out there that relates to bigfoot in history you know, Dayton, you know, we can go probably almost a hundred thousand, I mean, a hundred years ago. I mean, not just a hundred years ago, but way beyond that. You know, I mean, I mean, there's a story about Leif Erikson. Now there's speculation, that's a debatable story, but there's a, you know, Leif Erikson, the great explorer, Viking explorer, you know, that him and his men supposedly encountered these savage beasts covered in hair, you know that were kind of tall you know so i don't know i mean again there's not much detail on that so you know some people say oh now they just they just encountered the natives that were here we don't know that but the way they describe them they were tall hairy smelly looking beast you know so what the heck did they see you know i mean yeah i mean yeah some stories where native americans were covered in animal hair you know furs and hairs but i don't know maybe they saw something else. I don't know. I mean, I always found that to be fascinating, you know, itself, but that was back in the 900s AD, you know, so. I wanted to ask you about your current film project that you're working on. What is that? So, yeah, now for the record, I mean, I'm not a professional film artist or, you know, I'm independent. um but however with our bigfoot research that we do uh our investigations our campouts um you know over the years i mean for anyone who's followed my youtube channel um i've always done field videos a lot of them i've always been solo and you know very independent with my field videos um you know of course a lot of people find my field videos boring because i don't claim to have bigfoot in them i go out there do the research and i like to make them informative and educational and share my scenery, let people see where I go. However, same thing with what we're doing with a group camp house. We go out there. We're a very laid back chill group. You know, we go out there to have fun. You know, we love camping out. We have fellowship together, you know, and that's what it's all about. But at the same time, we take the research very serious. You know, we go out through our explore and, you know, we go out there looking for answers, looking for evidence. And if we find things or experience things, hopefully we do capture them on camera, which we were able to capture a few interesting things on camera. The whole light situation, man, I'm kicking myself in the butt. I had my camcorder, but it was not recording at the time when David first noticed it and I saw it. So not everything gets captured on camera, unfortunately. That's the sad thing about it. But as far as me filming everything that we do, along with eyewitnesses to our investigations, our field explorations, I wanted the way to spread awareness. Over the years, I've been big about spreading awareness about what we do and what I do, my research. We try to keep things educational. We try to keep things informative. And no, we're not the exhibition Bigfoot crew. We're not finding Bigfoot. We don't have a production crew following us around. you know we don't add things in there from the entertainment for the viewers you know what you see is what you get um but you know i started talking to some of my other friends that do you know they do other horror films and they do films you know they're all independent film producers and i was talking to one friend when they you know i was like you know i would love to find a way to put my research out there more i said look i said i've been filling in my camp us. I've been filming our research. I would love to put the word out there. I would love to reach a broader audience other than YouTube, you know, because everything I share usually goes on YouTube, you know, and we talk about it on our podcast. We have roundtable discussions where we openly talk about our experiences in this and that. Plus, you know, just like what you do with me, I mean, I have eyewitnesses I interview on YouTube too. So, well, a friend of mine, Matt Burns, out of West Virginia, he's like, well, look, I'm going to send you, I'm going to connect you with a buddy of mine he's also a film producer and he does film distribution he can get you connected with the streaming network and distribute you and do this blah blah blah I'll let you guys talk about it I'll connect you guys and you guys go about it from there so sure enough I end up meeting talking with this gentleman Shane Michaels is his name he's based out of Indiana I believe he's based out of Indiana and so after talking with him he's like well look this is what I can do for you I had a side contract with him and everything it's part of the agreement to go along with him and blah blah blah I won't get into all the more details so that's where the filming where I was able to expand my filming project where hopefully here soon it was supposed to start up back in October the streaming network got messed up and And hopefully here in another week or two, what we have filmed so far and what I sent in should start streaming. And that will be on the Fossum TV network. There is another, yeah, there is another network. It's not like Fossum. This one here, I never heard of it before. It's ECUSATV, which is East Coast USA TV. this individual, now basically he has a website where he puts on all the films on his website, you know? So I don't think it's an actual network or a platform you could find on streaming, but, um, so there's the Flossum TV network will be the main scene. Uh, I guess eventually down the road, it'll be expanded to other streaming networks. Um, so, um, so yeah, I mean, as far as, like I said, as far as the filming goes, like I'm the film producer, I, you know, I don't like to say that I don't have anybody to film. So our series that we have with the group is called Bigfoot Explorers. And like I said, it'll be a streaming film series with our group campouts. It's a fun show. If you're expecting to see a Bigfoot in it, we're not going to add – we don't add fake stuff in there to keep the viewers going. Again, it's the real deal. We're raw. We're boots on the ground. it's again there's no narration to it you know we're raw footage it's basically what you see I mean our video footage the quality of it is pretty decent I mean I have a $2,000 camcorder I use and I have a 4K some of the footage I use with my phone I got 4K recording off of my phone so there's bits and pieces I do use with my phone but most of it I do use the camcorder You know, it's got the features that I really need and the quality that's put out there from the filming. Starting a business can be overwhelming. You're juggling multiple roles, designer, marketer, logistics manager, all while bringing your vision to life. Shopify helps millions of business sell online. Build fast with templates and AI descriptions and photos, inventory and shipping. Sign up for your one euro per month trial and start selling today at Shopify.nl. that's shopify.nl it's time to see what you can accomplish with shopify by your side but uh but yeah i mean we have fun with it i mean that's what it's all about we have fun and you know we share what we do you know share what we can with it you know uh again we're not part of a big network um i mean uh some people joke about it so yeah before long even my co-workers they discovered that yeah, I was looking at some information about you. I see there's a what do they call it? The IMDD thing for people that are involved with video filming. I said, yeah, the film distributor set that up for us, which was awesome. It makes us look more professional. We're not trying to be professional. We're not trying to get famous from it. I mean, it's whatever. So yeah, that's the main thing, the Bigfoot Explorers. And then there's a new one which I've only done I only put together a couple episodes of this other one where it's me going solo it's called Gone Rogue hopefully that will come out probably about a couple weeks after Bigfoot Explorers becomes on the streaming network but Gone Rogue again it's just me by myself gone solo I go out by myself and between both series you'll see in between you'll see some eyewitness interviews with that as well. Some of them, most of them are based out of Virginia. Some of them are elsewhere. I got investigations coming up where I'll be meeting and filming with other people up in Pennsylvania. One I got coming up in March where I'll be camping and investigating. There's a location with one guy. He's come across some very strange footprints. His footprints, I don't even know how to describe them except I sent pictures and images to Ken Gearheart. I said, of all people, Ken Gearheart, he's researched a lot of weird cryptids. I sent the pictures and stuff to him. Of course, he didn't want to speak on camera because he said he wanted to charge me. I said, well, what information can you give? He said, well, after learning where I shared the information, these came out of Pennsylvania, blah, blah, blah. He said, well, there's been reports of where extinct alligators. I said well how big are the alligators these three toed footprints that my friend is finding up there in Pennsylvania they're up to 14 inches long not your average alligator is even that big and the funny thing is these particular tracks that a friend of mine shared several years ago another friend of mine in the western part of Pennsylvania has found these same tracks and he's got pictures and casts of them what the heck is up in Pennsylvania with these large burrito tracks. I've never heard of alligators in Pennsylvania. No. I mean, I understand there's animals and pests, exotic animals that get loose. A 14-inch burrito track, if you saw these tracks, I did a comparison. I made a post to my ECBR, my main baseball group, but I put a comparison, alligator tracks next to his tracks. alligator tracks have a almost like where the heel would be looks like a sharp v yeah these these tracks that this guy's got again they're up to 14 inches and they have a rounded ball like a rounded heel like a human you know as some of the interesting take i've heard about them somebody said that's definitely um um what's the word of the cryptid um uh like reptilian a lot of people believe it could be some type of reptilian cryptid. I don't know. I never got into reptilian cryptids before, but I don't know. I want to get up there. We're going to investigate this location. He said, we want to camp. And he also mentioned well, not far from here, he said there's a private residence that he's spoken to where they've actually heard and had some weird experiences on their property. Just not far from where he's found these tracks he said i'm going to talk to them to see if we can set up camp at on their property i said well that'd be great you know uh i would actually you know i think that would be a good place but uh so yeah i'm interested in checking out that's kind of coming up in march um you know because uh he agreed you know he was excited when i presented it to him because i said i've been up there i've been wanting to film him and meet up with him for quite some time um because he found these back during the summertime you know so so i don't know um we'll We'll see what we can find out. I want to explore the area. I mean, you know, he's a researcher, but he's, I don't know how much in-depth he is on research. I mean, he does a lot of field videos where it shows him walking in the woods and this and that. But I'm the type of person, I feel like I'm more inclined to really look at things and, you know, like find tracks. You know, we can walk through, you know, you can have a group of people walk through the woods, so-called Bigfoot researchers, not find a thing. I'm the type of person, ever since I got involved with this, I'm looking for tracks. You know, over the years, I have found a series of what I believe to be big for tracks. I've had some casts of it. You know, I haven't found them recently, but while we have found things in our, you know, during one of our explorations, I have found things that look promising, but very inconclusive. So I can't say that could be just, could be related to a big bear as far as I know. is you know some of these tracks in the mud and the way they are displayed again yeah they're questionable but you know at the same time almost palms but with concerning the history of the location that there's been big sightings in this area yeah maybe there's always that possibility like i tell people i'm not the type of person that hey yeah that's bigfoot that's bigfoot you know bigfoot broke that tree you won't know i'm not that type of person i'm very objective but But at the same time, I keep it open mind, you know. Well, where can people find you at? What's your YouTube channel and all that? Yeah, my YouTube channel is Bigfoot Zone, E-C-B-R-O. Of course, we're the abbreviation for the East Coast Bigfoot Researchers Organization. So, yeah, again, that's Bigfoot Zone, E-C-B-R-O. I'm all over social media. I did have a website for the longest time. I actually decided to let that go because I'm on a tight budget. I had to kind of give that up before now. But, I mean, I'm all over Facebook. I'm not hard to find. You can Google my name with Bigfoot or ECBRO next to it, and you'll find information online about it. Again, if you're an eyewitness, you want to share things, especially if you're in Virginia, I would love to hear from you. I mean, my email is ecbro98 at gmail.com. so I mean feel free to reach out to me if you're in Virginia and you've had experience I definitely would love to hear from you but yeah I got people sharing information reports you know not recent reports but I got other things going on here in Virginia again I got Pennsylvania, West Virginia and other surrounding states here along the East Coast so I'm looking forward to being up with these people and learning what I can and kind of going from there so but yeah it's been quite the adventure You know, there's things here in Virginia you can't dismiss. Again, don't underestimate the East Coast. And everyone hears about stories on the Pacific Northwest. You know, trust me. No, we got something going on here. They're here. I can promise you that. Well, Daniel, I've enjoyed it, man. I appreciate you coming on here and sharing some of your stories and insight. After a long time in the Bigfoot field, and here's to many, many more years to come. Absolutely. I am definitely looking forward to all the research I got ahead. And, you know, when we find things, when we learn about things, we share them. You know, we don't keep things private and to ourselves. We like to share things. We want people to know what's out there, what we experience when we do experience things. You know, people probably hate you for this, but unlike the BFRO, we do put information out there. I know there's details. I know you can go into the BFRO database, but you're not going to learn all the facts and details that, you know, there's a lot of behind the scenes that the researchers, but the BFRO will hide from the public. We're not like that. We want you to know, you know, what's out there. We, you know, it's all part of spreading awareness. And I preach that a lot, you know, even when I go to events to speak at events, you know, I share my research and I share experiences, you know, stuff like that. So, you know, again, it's all part of spreading awareness and I want people to know what's happening here. You know, you know, again, I've had journalists that send reports of stories and articles and they say, oh, there's no Bigfoot in Virginia and stuff like that. I don't know where they get their information on. They're based off of BFRO or everything else. you know and you know it's disturbing that people are bold enough to put this kind of information out there what little do they know you know it's like they don't know how to research we do you know so they don't get out there these are people that are uh you know sitting behind a desk and you know putting information out there just for a few views you know but i guarantee you we have bigfoot out here in virginia and there's a lot of strangest that takes place here and the more we dig into things, the more we learn. If you want to continue to watch us and follow us, I do highly recommend watching the YouTube channel. But be on the lookout on streaming networks for Bigfoot Explorers, the film series, and also Gone Road. We're boots on the ground, raw footage. We're not involved with no major networks, so you won't see all that false entertainment out there to keep you drawn in, but what we have is a real deal. I promise you that. 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