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Practice Makes Permanent

20 min
Jan 12, 20265 months ago
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Summary

This episode explores the neuroscience of practice through a story about a character learning to play the organ. Researchers from UCLA and Rockefeller University studied how repeated practice reorganizes neurons in the brain, demonstrating that consistent practice leads to permanent memory formation and skill improvement.

Insights
  • Neuroplasticity demonstrates that repeated practice physically reorganizes brain cells (neurons), transforming chaotic neural activity into organized, efficient patterns
  • The principle 'practice makes permanent' emphasizes that quality and consistency matter—incorrect practice reinforces wrong patterns, while correct practice builds lasting skills
  • Mouse brain studies provide valid models for understanding human learning because mouse and human brains share similar structures and learning mechanisms
  • Initial learning stages involve scattered neural activity, but sustained practice consolidates these patterns into reliable, retrievable memories
  • The lag between effort and results is normal; breakthrough improvements come from accumulated practice rather than immediate mastery
Trends
Neuroscience education for children through narrative storytelling and character-driven learningIncreased public interest in understanding brain plasticity and how learning physically changes the brainUse of animal model research (mice) to make complex neuroscience concepts accessible to general audiencesEmphasis on growth mindset and deliberate practice in educational content for young learnersIntegration of scientific research findings into entertainment-based educational podcasts
Topics
Neuroplasticity and brain reorganizationPractice and skill developmentMemory formation and consolidationNeuron activity and brain imagingLearning psychologyMouse brain research modelsDeliberate practice methodologyWorking memoryEducational neuroscienceBehavioral learning patterns
Companies
UCLA
Conducted research study on how practice affects brain's ability to remember and process information
Rockefeller University
Co-conducted research study with UCLA on neuroplasticity and the effects of practice on brain function
Tinkercast
Production company that creates and distributes the Wow in the World podcast and related educational content
People
Mindy Thomas
Co-writer of Wow in the World podcast episodes
Tom Van Kalken
Co-writer of Wow in the World podcast episodes
Guy Ross
Writer and contributor to Wow in the World podcast
Tyler Tholl
Original sound design and music editing for Wow in the World
Jed Anderson
Supervising producer and voice actor for multiple characters on the show
Jessica Bode
Ensures accuracy of scientific and factual content in episodes
Meredith Halpern-Ranzer
Powers the wow at Tinkercast HQ
Quotes
"Practice makes permanent, and if you continue to practice incorrectly, you will only remember how to play incorrectly."
Professor CadenzaMid-episode
"The neurons stopped going bonker balls and began to organize themselves."
GairazDuring scientific explanation
"With practice, our neurons or brain cells can change and get better at doing tasks like remembering things."
GairazKey learning moment
"All that practice is making permanent memories in my brains!"
MindyRealization moment
Full Transcript
Hello, wowsers! It's me, Dennis! And before we start the show, did you hear about March Gladness? Reggie, no! Not basketball tournament stuff! March Gladness tournament stuff! Yeah, exactly! March Gladness is where I think of all the things that made me the Gladness this month, and then I put them head to head in a tournament-style bracket. Oh, so you do know what I'm talking about? Well, then as you know, the winner of my March Gladness tournament was my new haircut! Do you love it? What do you mean? Don't worry, it'll grow back! Whatever! Wowser fams, you too can fill out your very own March Gladness bracket by going to tickercast.com slash march. There, you can print your very own free March Gladness bracket, then fill it out to see what made you the Gladness this month. Put your favorite things head to head in a tournament of Gladness. One more time, that's tickercast.com slash march. Now, let's get on with the show! The running car of the mixture of the magnificent proportion. I don't know what you've been told, but we're in a golden age. So many discoveries that are jumping off the page. Running the world, running the world, running the world, running the world, running the world, running the world. I'm a lady. I'm running away, Houston. What in the... I better go out there and see what's going on. Maybe it's an emergency. Dennis, are you hearing the sounds coming out of Mindy's gingerbread mansion? You think everything's okay in there? Oh, I'm sure everything's fine, Kai Ross. That was good, Melinda, but let's take it again. Only this time, try to do it like I taught you. I am trying, but this baseball stadium organ just won't cooperate. See? Well, that's because you've got bits of ham wedged between the keys. Oh, I was looking for that ham. Yes! Take it from the top. One, two, three, two, two, three. Oh, wow, that sounds a little better. Mindy must have finally removed the ham from the keys of her baseball stadium organ. Mindy plays the organ? Well, she's taking lessons. Okay, how's this? Am I doing it right? Huh. One, two, three, two, two, three. Stay on my... What is it going to take to get a wolf to blow that house down? Yeah, it sounds like there's a demonic baseball game going on in there. Hi, Tommy. Hi, Granny G. Hi, SpongeBob. Ooh, what you got there? Grab my G-Force. What are you doing with arms full of glass shards? This is the window from my diaper house, and that cheese-curdling sound coming out of that candy house broke it. And you carried the shards of it over here? I can't believe Mindy's organ playing can break glass. What in the world is going on in there? Well, apparently Mindy is having an organ lesson, but I'm not sure it's going so well. I think I'm really getting the hang of it. Melinda, you have got to practice more. Practice, practice, practice. Oh, I know, I know, I know. You've been telling me that every lesson for the last five years. Five years? She should get her money back. Well, practice makes permanent, and if you continue to practice incorrectly, you will only remember how to play incorrectly. Now, try it again from the top. Oh, no. One, two, three, two, two, three. No! I'm so excited. Okay, okay, Melinda, that will be quite enough for today, I think. Thank you. Oh, man. Now, please, practice before our next lesson, and keep the keys free of ham. Yes, ma'am. I mean, sir. Well, I'm gonna go up there and eat that pipe-piano ham. Ooh, I was thinking the same thing. Ew. No! That is a noisy hamster, man. Oh, excuse me, I didn't know Melinda was expecting company. She's not. Who's Melinda? You're the fellow responsible for all that racket up there. My name is Professor Cadenza, and I am a world-renowned pipe organ instructor with over 20 years of experience in the world. Wow. I beg your pardon. Why is this so hard? Well, what GeForce means is that you must have a head full of ham if you think you can teach Mandy how to play that thing. Why, I never. If you'll excuse me, I must be going. I'm giving a lesson to a very talented and dedicated baby. Goodbye. Bye! I can't move. Well, don't let the door crumble on you on the way out. What's going on with that guy? I think he's mad because Mindy's so bad. Oh, and you nailed it! You know, maybe we should go upstairs to Mindy's music room and check on her. Follow me, everyone. Okay. Okay, as long as the ham is up there, I guess. Knock knock. Surprise! It's us. Dennis, Gairaz, Grandma GeForce, Thomas Fingerling, what are you all doing here? We've come to put that instrument you torture and out of its misery. You mean my baseball stadium organ? Stand back, Cindy. I'm going to throw that thing out the window. And then set it on fire. What? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. What if all Mindy needed to make this organ sound like a musical instrument? It was practice. Practice? I do not know what that is. Practice? Ah, why does everyone keep saying that? Because Mindy, if you want to remember the lessons that your organ instructor is teaching you, you're going to have to practice and practice and practice some more. Ah, but I'm too lazy to practice, Gairaz. Practicing is just not fun. I want to be good at playing the baseball stadium organ now. Yeah, my ears want that too. Tee hee. Why can't learning how to play the baseball stadium organ just be easy? Yeah, guy. Why can't learning to play the baseball stadium organ just be easy? Because if it was easy, then everyone would be playing the baseball stadium organ. Oh, actually, that sounds really fun. No. Mindy, what if I told you there was a scientific argument for why practice is important? Ah. Scientific argument? Okay, now you got my attention, Gairaz. No. No, no, no. Let him speak. Go on, Gairaz. Okay, so I just read this really interesting study in the scientific journal Nature. It was a study conducted by researchers from UCLA in California and Rockefeller University in New York. Huh? Oh. Grandma G-Force, do you mind? I'm trying to tell a story here. And I'm trying to play this brass tutor. Sounding great, Granny G. Go on, Gairaz. So, as I was saying, these researchers wanted to better understand what happens in the brain when we practice something again and again and again. Uh-huh. And they specifically wanted to know how practice affects the brain's ability to remember and process information. Ah, the working memory. Exactly. Huh? Oh. Thomas Fingerling, what are you doing? Nothing. I was just trying to tune this old banjo over here. Here we go. Hey, Fingerling. Let's do a do-it-one. Okay, do-it-one. Yay! A five, six, seven, eight. Cool. So, Gairaz, for the researchers to learn how practice affects the brain's ability to remember stuff, they must have had to conduct an experiment or something, right? Exactly. And for this experiment, they trained mice to smell. Big whoop. I couldn't do that. That's true. She does smell. Fingerling. Like a flower. Ah, you two. A corpse flower. Oh, that's a bad smell. Ahem. Sorry. Sorry. Go ahead, Gairaz. Give us the story. So, to begin this experiment, the researchers first spent two weeks training mice to recognize and remember several different scents in a specific order. Oh, well, I'm a real little mouse and mm-mm-mm-mm. I smell skunk, sewer gas, and a hint of rotten eggs. And I'm a little mouse too. A really cute one. But that ain't rotten eggs you're smelling. Excuse me. Squeak, squeak. And while the mice were practicing their smelling, the researchers studied their brains with a very special and very powerful microscope. Okay, you mice. I'm just gonna hook this super duper, super-powered microscope up to your tiny little brains here. Oh, no. Ah, squeak, squeak. More you get out of my brain or I'm gonna... This microscope was so powerful that it could observe the activity of up to 73,000 neurons at a time. And neurons are brain cells that help to send messages, right? Exactly. And what they found was fascinating. Oh, wow. This is fascinating. What's the researchers find, Gairaz? Well, they found that when the mice were first learning to identify their smells in order... Flowers? Cookies? Shrimp cocktails? The neurons were a bit random, just sort of all over the place. Oh, no. Look, look, look. Shrimp cocktails. Oh, yes! So basically their brains and neurons were going bonker balls? Well, yeah, I guess you could say that. But what happened as the weeks went on and the mice continued to practice their smelling? Well, something amazing happened. Something... wow! Flowers again. Cookies. I remember that one. And... yep, shrimp cocktail. Flowers. Cookies. Shrimp cocktails. Oh, wow! What happened, Gairaz? Well, they discovered that as the mice continued to practice and get better at remembering their smells in the correct order... Skunk. Sewer gas. Rotten eggs. Oh, excuse me. The neurons stopped going bonker balls and began to organize themselves. Sewer gas. Rotten eggs. Wait a minute, Gairaz. This evidence would suggest that... oh, no. Oh, yes, Mindy. Practice makes permanent. Ah, bonker balls! The more they practiced, the better they were at remembering the correct order of the smells. Skunk. Sewer gas. Rotten eggs. I'm the best at this. Flowers. Cookies. And let me guess. Shrimp cocktails. Flowers. Cookies. Shrimp cocktails. Oh, wow! Well, too bad it won't work for me. I'm not a mouse. Neither are we. I just play a mouse on TV. Well, actually, Mindy, the reason scientists often study the activity in mice brains is because mice have brains that are very similar to human brains. That's right, Gairaz. I'm a scientific researcher and I know things. And I can tell you that mice brains are structured and work a bit like human brains. Only they're cuter. What? And smaller. They're like teeny tiny human brains that you can fit in your pocket. Which makes them a pretty good model for understanding how our human brains work. Oh, cool! I mean, scientists. I already knew that. So what you're trying to tell me, Gairaz, is that with practice, our neurons or brain cells can change and get better at doing tasks like remembering things? Yes! Dennis, I'm the narrator. Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry. So, in the spirit of anything for science, do you think that maybe by practicing your organ, you'll begin to remember the correct notes and... And give my ears a break. Yeah, cause you sound real bad. Come on, Mindy. You can do it. Anything for science? Okay, fine. Anything for science? Whoa! Gairaz, hand me my sheet music, please. Here you go. Okay, here goes nothing. On the count of three. One, two, three! Gaaah! Please, everyone be patient. I'm trying to practice. Sorry, Mindy. Right. Hey, did you all hear that? And again! That's a miracle. It's working, Gairaz. The more she practices, the more she remembers the right notes to the song. Well, I can't hear nothing. I got my fingers in my ears. A-raaaah! Did you all hear that? I did it! All that practice is making permanent memories in my brains! Brad. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Let me do it again. Gaaah! Ah, soccer balls! I thought I had it! Just keep practicing, Mindy, and remember, practice makes permanent. Okay, here we go again. One, two, three. Two, two, three! A-raaaah! A-raaaah! Wow In The World will be right back. Grown-ups, this message is for you. That's it. Back to the show. Wow In The World! Hi! Thanks for calling Wow In The World. It's officially summer of wow time. When you hear the beep, record your summer of wow moment. My name is Josephine, and I'm from Austin, Texas. In my summer memory, when I went to pledge at pier, I went on a fair pier that was 100 feet in the air. Hi, what do you do? And say hi to Stanis? Ahoy there! You know you're static, man. What? No, I'm not static, man. We just look alike and sound alike. And baby Stanis. And Thomas and Rorynch, congratulations for the jump. Wow! And Snow-Pet. Bye! See you soon! 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