Summary
This episode covers the firing of DHS Secretary Kristi Noem following congressional hearings about misuse of agency resources, the U.S. bombing of Iran and its geopolitical consequences, and features interviews with actor Nick Offerman about his new projects and woodworking philosophy.
Insights
- Political accountability mechanisms are weakening when presidents can start wars without congressional approval or clear justification, setting precedent for executive overreach
- Noem's removal was driven by political embarrassment rather than substantive policy failures, suggesting optics matter more than actual governance competence in this administration
- Creative work and hands-on making provide deeper psychological satisfaction than digital consumption, with measurable impacts on wellbeing and sense of agency
- The Iran conflict demonstrates how contradictory messaging and post-hoc justifications undermine public trust and democratic oversight of military decisions
- Women's bodily autonomy and creative control over their image can be leveraged for social good through platforms like OnlyFans when framed as consent-based philanthropy
Trends
Executive power expansion without congressional oversight becoming normalized in U.S. governancePost-conflict justification replacing pre-conflict authorization in military decision-makingInfluencer economy and creator platforms shifting from corporate benefit to individual/charitable controlRenewed interest in analog skills and hands-on making as counterbalance to digital cultureGeopolitical instability in Middle East creating economic ripple effects (oil prices, market volatility)Content creators leveraging parasocial relationships for charitable fundraisingBlurred lines between entertainment, politics, and governance in media narrativesTech innovation in accessibility (urinal design, battery technology, contact lenses) addressing overlooked user needs
Topics
Congressional War Powers Resolution and Executive AuthorityDHS Leadership and Border Enforcement AccountabilityIran Military Strikes and Geopolitical ConsequencesKristi Noem Firing and Political ConsequencesMark Wayne Mullen as DHS Secretary NomineeOnlyFans and Creator Economy PhilanthropyWoodworking and Hands-On Making as Mental HealthProject Hail Mary Film Production and Science FictionAT&T Commercial Culture and Female Body RepresentationLithium Battery Technology for Electric VehiclesNight Vision Contact Lens DevelopmentBlended Wing Aircraft Design InnovationFish Doorbell Crowdsourcing TechnologySan Francisco Teacher Misconduct and Quiz ContentMargo's Got Money Troubles OnlyFans Storyline
Companies
Netflix
Greenlit 'Death by Lightning' miniseries about James Garfield despite being outside typical algorithm preferences
Apple TV
Streaming platform for 'Margo's Got Money Troubles' series featuring OnlyFans storyline
OnlyFans
Creator platform discussed as tool for women's financial independence and charitable fundraising
AT&T
Milana Vientiroup's commercial work that led to parasocial male attention and body-based criticism
Mint Mobile
Wireless carrier sponsor offering premium plans at $15/month with no long-term contracts
Helix Sleep
Mattress brand sponsor offering 27% off site-wide with sleep quiz matching technology
CookUnity
Chef-crafted meal delivery service sponsor with rotating seasonal menus and reusable packaging
SimpliSafe
Home security system sponsor with 24/7 monitoring and active guard outdoor protection
BetterHelp
Online therapy platform sponsor with 30,000+ licensed therapists and 4.9/5 rating
Blinds.com
Custom window treatments retailer offering professional in-home measure and installation service
Shopify
E-commerce platform sponsor enabling small business creation with inventory and shipping tools
Jet Zero
Aeronautical startup developing blended wing aircraft for fuel efficiency and wider cabin space
People
Kristi Noem
Fired DHS Secretary after brutal congressional hearings over $70M luxury jet misuse and deportation failures
Donald Trump
President who fired Noem via Truth Social and ordered Iran bombing without clear congressional justification
Mark Wayne Mullen
Oklahoma Senator nominated to replace Noem as DHS Secretary; election denier with combative Senate record
James Garfield
19th-century president featured in Netflix's 'Death by Lightning' miniseries about corruption and reform
Chester Arthur
Vice president turned president in 'Death by Lightning'; Nick Offerman plays character who reforms after corruption
Ali Khamenei
Iran's Supreme Leader killed in U.S.-Israel bombing strikes that triggered regional conflict escalation
Marco Rubio
Secretary of State providing contradictory justifications for Iran strikes based on speculative imminent threats
J.D. Vance
Vice President reportedly opposed Iran strikes after initially arguing for aggressive U.S. military action
Sheldon Whitehouse
Democratic Senator who pressed Noem on $70M luxury jet used for personal travel instead of deportations
John Fetterman
Pennsylvania Senator who joined Republicans blocking war powers resolution on Iran conflict
Corey Lewandowski
Trump associate referenced in Noem congressional hearing regarding alleged plane usage and relationship
Pete Hegseth
Defense Secretary claiming Iran strikes are not regime change despite regime actually changing
Lindsey Graham
Senator defending Iran strikes as justified even without imminent threat justification requirement
Ryan Gosling
Actor starring in 'Project Hail Mary' sci-fi film about space mission to save the world
George Clooney
Actor who worked with Milana Vientiroup on ER; remembered her years later with callback reference
Elle Fanning
Star of 'Margo's Got Money Troubles' playing single mom who finds success through OnlyFans creativity
Megan Mullally
Nick Offerman's wife of 26 years; sends him articles about Trump pardons and cute puppy videos
Andy Weir
Author of 'Project Hail Mary' book and 'The Martian'; praised for compelling science fiction storytelling
Tom Chan
San Francisco math teacher placed on leave for quiz questions about weight, appearance, and body shaming
Quotes
"The president had a feeling, again, based on fact that Iran was going to strike the United States"
Caroline Levitt (White House Press Secretary)•Iran justification segment
"We're at war without approval from Congress. We don't know why the war began, how long the conflict will last, or how the administration defines success."
Jon Lovett•War powers analysis
"If you learn to split firewood or if you hammer a nail or get a saw and some boards and just build a porch or a doghouse, I'm telling you, it is so much more empowering than any video game you can play"
Nick Offerman•Woodworking segment
"The only thing that is rewarding enough to be worthwhile is doing hard things, whereas doom scrolling feels easy but you feel like shit afterwards"
Milana Vientiroup•Project Hail Mary discussion
"It's so powerful and it hurts no one. You know what's interesting? She makes more money and she makes the people at home do the dribbling and the dishes"
Milana Vientiroup•OnlyFans philanthropy segment
Full Transcript
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Yes, but it doesn't really feel like there's another option, you know? And of course they use a five-year-old child as bait. And of course they're doing all these horrible, bad things because they don't know what they're doing. they've been told that they're going to get rid of the worst of the worst, then they have absolute immunity. And they've been told that nothing they do will they ever be held accountable for. On my show, Runaway Country, we go where the headlines hit home, from communities under threat to the people fighting to be heard. New episodes of Runaway Country drop every Thursday. 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Consequences. Is that the consequences siren? Is someone facing consequences? I didn't even realize that that alarm still worked. It's been so long since we've heard it. Last time we blew it was when we realized Joe Biden was old. Yes, on Thursday, Donald Trump broke the news that he had fired the Secretary of Homeland Security and person who's sorry she doesn't have any... And person who's sorry she doesn't have any cash for tip. Christy Gnome. Christy Gnome is out! This came after a terrible week for Gnome in which she struggled to defend herself in a series of brutal hearings in Congress. In comparison to other forays on Capitol Hill, I would say Gnome's performance ranks somewhere between Pam Bondi and Ashley Babbitt in terms of making it out alive. Democrat, yeah, it's a tough one. It's a tough one. It's a tough one. For sure. Democratic Senator Sheldon Whitehouse pressed Noem on the $70 million luxury jet that DHS claimed was for deportation flights, but which Noem used to fly around the country. Would you explain this? sir i'm looking at a picture of an interior looks like a bedroom of an airplane yes sir what kind of deportee justifies being flown out of the country in a luxury jet with a bedroom and accommodations like this well she made her bed now she has to lie about it But who is she flying with? At any time during your tenure as director of Department of Homeland Security, have you had sexual relations with Corey Lewandowski? Mr. Chairman, I am shocked that we're going down and peddling tabloid garbage in this committee today. So Noam doesn't deny it, which makes it sound like that plane was being used to deport loads from Corey Lewandowski. Jesus Christ, Hallie, my mother listens to this. For his part, Lewandowski recently told reporters, I asked Noam to do it doggy style, she damn near shot me. I tell you, I get no respect. All right. We're coming in hot today. We're coming in hot. But in the end, the brutality of Minnesota, the poorly trained mass agents, the violations of dozens of court orders, the lies about Alex Preddy being a domestic terrorist, the photo op in front of prisoners at a Salvadoran gulag, the mile-high affair, that's not what ultimately got her shit-canned. When you list it all out, though, it's pretty crazy she held it on. She held on as long as she did. She must have felt invincible. I bet she didn't even wear her seatbelt on that sex plane. gnome testified in the hearings that trump had approved a 220 million dollar ad campaign that promoted most of all christy gnome here is a clip from that ad campaign why do i love these wide open spaces they remind me of why our forefathers came here not just for its beauty but for the freedom only america provides i'm christy gnome Of course, $220 million may seem like a lot of money for these ads, but they did have to do a lot of takes, but she kept forgetting her lines and shooting the horses. Trump was reportedly so incensed at Noem's claim that he approved the ad campaign that he started asking congressional Republicans whether he should fire her. Or give Israel her coordinates, suggested Lindsey Graham. before adding, I'm sorry, that's crazy. It's a crazy thing to say. I'm just so amped right now. Trump's announcement, which he posted to Truth Social, came while Kristi Noem was speaking at a law enforcement conference in Nashville. Here's our gal at work. It reminded me of the quote that is often attributed to George Orwell that states people sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalves. when it comes to gnomes run at dhs all's orwell that ends orwell now i do want to point out there's no actual evidence that orwell said that it's a made-up quote but that's fine because i think it's fitting gnome leaves the stage as she entered an incompetent moron who constantly makes shit up it offends me as a speechwriter that she's going to brainyquotes.com to pull fake fucking orwell quotes. Or as Lincoln once said, don't let the door hit you where the good Lord split you. It might have been Gandhi. I think that might have been actually Gandhi. It's falsely attributed to Lincoln. It's a Gandhi quote. Ironically, Trump has said Noam will now become the very real sounding special envoy to the Shield of the Americas, a new security initiative for the Western Hemisphere. In other words, Noam was so bad at running the Department of Homeland Security, she managed to get herself deported to Latin America. Trump said that he will nominate Oklahoma Senator Mark Wayne Mullen to replace her. Just a reminder, Mullen is an election denier who once challenged the head of the Teamsters to a fight during a Senate hearing. This is a time, this is a place. If you want to run your mouth, we can be two consenting adults. We can finish it here. Okay, that's fine. Perfect. You want to do it now? I'd love to do it right now. Well, stand your butt up then. You stand your butt up. Oh, hold on. Oh, stop it. Is that your solution? I'm sorry. No, no, sit down. No, you're a clown. Sit down. No, no, you're a United States senator. Honestly, perfect. No notes. Love is passion. I think it's good for a DHS secretary to be somebody that gets in bar fights without being drunk or anywhere near a bar. Also, earlier this week, Mullen walked himself into a trap as to whether or not our country was currently in war. This is war, and we're taking out the threat. Who can see this is war? We haven't declared war. They declared war on us, but we haven't- The president called it war on Secretary Hexas. We haven't declared- Just now, you said this is war. They called it war. They called it war. What I was saying- You just- Okay, well, that was a misspoke. What I was saying is that they declared war on us, but war is ugly. Okay. Not a great communicator, but maybe he's amazing at having sex with Corey Lewandowski. Meanwhile, as Trump was making a few regime changes at home, he was also doing so abroad Friday night as Americans emerged from a Brandy Carlile concert at the Kia Forum in Los Angeles. We found out that the U.S. and Israel had bombed Iran. The strikes killed Iran's supreme leader, Ali Khamenei, sure, and set off a conflict that spread across the region for those who aren't experts in the Iranian system. A supreme leader is just a normal leader, but they add tomatoes and sour cream. Thank you. At least Khamenei died doing what he loved, meeting with top advisors in a compound that was far less secure than he realized. Oil and gas prices have surged, stock markets have dropped, and the U.S. closed its embassies in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and Beirut amid retaliatory drone strikes. Federal officials have urged Americans across the region to get out as soon as possible, but with many airports closed and the government not offering assistance, it's not clear how they're supposed to do that. It's just too many people to do an Argo. Officials have also suggested that if Americans are unable to flee, they consider making themselves useful by governing Iran. Trump later explained why there was so much of a scramble to alert Americans abroad. Commercial air travel right now is a secure infrastructure in the Middle East and thousands of Americans are stranded. Why wasn't there an evacuation plan, and will you send planes to get people out? Well, because it happened all very quickly. Why wasn't there a plan? Because we didn't make one, dumbass. Next question. But hey, at least the administration's explanations for why they started this war have been contradictory and incomprehensible. Administration officials said they had reason to believe Iran was planning a preemptive strike, a claim that Pentagon officials denied the next day. That's how little they think of us. It's like someone texting you that they can't make it to your birthday because they're sick and out of town. And then you check Instagram and there they are bombing Iran and they don't look sick at all. Also on Saturday, Trump announced that this was a regime change mission delivering this message to the Iranian opposition. When we are finished, take over your government. It will be yours to take. America is backing you with overwhelming strength and devastating force. now is the time to seize control of your destiny and to unleash the prosperous and glorious future that is close within your reach yes sir responded the leader of a brand new organization called turbo hezbollah continued trump again this is just a message for iran americans do not seize control of your destiny do not unleash the prosperous and glorious future maybe go to the You people like movies. By Monday, the message had changed. Here's Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth. This is not a so-called regime change war, but the regime sure did change. This is not a so-called gin and tonic for breakfast, but the breakfast does include a gin and tonic. Hegseth also offered this helpful clarification. No stupid rules of engagement. no nation-building quagmire, no democracy-building exercise, no politically correct wars. What is a politically correct war? Like if Kamala were president and we bombed Iran, what would be different? Do the bombs have pronouns? No plastic straws on the submarines? Is Hannah Gadsby in the Situation Room? Maybe we should be better at war than comedy. All right. That's a stray. That's a stray. That's a stray. That's a stray. Wasn't a funny special. It's time. You can face it now. Cut all this. I don't want that. I don't want it. Leave it in. No. Stop it. Even J.D. Vance seems to have dispatched sources to tell reporters that he was personally opposed to the strikes after the New York Times reported that Vance had argued for the U.S. to go big and go fast if it were to attack Iran. Classic J.D. trying to have his cake and bomb it too. Secretary of State Marco Rubio, meanwhile, was back on the imminent threat beat on Monday. The imminent threat being that Iran was about to be attacked by Israel. We knew that there was going to be an Israeli action. We knew that that would precipitate an attack against American forces. And we knew that if we didn't preemptively go after them before they launched those attacks, we would suffer higher casualties. There absolutely was an imminent threat. And the imminent threat was that we knew that if Iran was attacked, and we believed they would be attacked, that they would immediately come after us. And we were not going to sit there and absorb a blow before we responded. Pretty shocking thing to hear from the president of Venezuela. So there was an imminent threat to us because Israel was an imminent threat to Iran. Great day for conspiracy theorists trying to convince the world that Jews control everything. Less good for guys with the middle name Ira who struggled to digest dairy. It was also a strange comment from Rubio, especially after the chairman of the Joint Chiefs said that Israel had acted on U.S. intelligence. This was a daylight strike based on a trigger event conducted by the Israeli defense forces enabled by the U.S. intelligence community. So good news. Israel didn't start the war. We started the war through Israel. Does that help? Is that better? we're Israel's puppet, but also Israel is our puppet. And whose hand is that? Oh God, it's Corey Lewandowski. Rubio ultimately walked this statement back, but the damage was done. So don't worry. They sent out the fixer, Lindsey Graham, to make clear that it doesn't even matter if the attack was imminent, even though that's the justification for the president to act without Congress. And it doesn't have to be imminent to me because you don't want it to be imminent. The whole idea is for it not to be imminent, dumbass. You want to prevent it from being imminent. Wow. Lindsey Graham, thank God you went through that time machine because that baby you killed would have grown up to be Hitler. That baby was who now? See, that one was your fault. On Wednesday, White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt, no relation, offered a new explanation. The president had a feeling, again, based on fact that Iran was going to strike the United States, was going to strike our assets in the region, and he made a determination to launch Operation Epic Fury based on all of those reasons. The president had a feeling. America has gone to war for many reasons over our history, but this is the first time an administration has claimed to go to war because the vibes were off, which is where we're at. We're at war without approval from Congress. We don't know why the war began, how long the conflict will last, or how the administration defines success. Four Democrats joined with Republicans to block a war powers resolution in the House, Pennsylvania Senator and guy who tricked us with those hoodies, John Fetterman, joined. Hoodies represent something. a kind of energy our culture is not your costume john fetterman uh fetterman joined with every republican except ran paul to block a war powers resolution in the senate and shame on every one of them uh meanwhile the administration has offered goals as varied as targeting the nuclear program we already obliterated to destroying the regime and preventing it from projecting power in the region whatever that means they seem to have underestimated or failed to consider the downside risks, too. Here's Trump riffing about it. I guess the worst case would be we do this and then somebody takes over who's as bad as the previous person, right? That could happen. Yeah, man. But hey, by then it'll be a Democrat's problem, and by extension, a Democrat's fault. They can't even see the deaths of Americans as anything more than a political problem. This is what the fake news misses. We've taken control of Iran's airspace and waterways without boots on the ground. We control their fate. But when a few drones get through or tragic things happen, it's front page news. I get it. The press only wants to make the president look bad, but try for once to report the reality. Yeah, man. When Americans die in a war, it's front page news. Where do you think it goes? Arts and leisure? Sports? Under the jumble? Also, who is this toned for? The journalists who think you're a moron? The MAGA influencers who also think you're a moron? The generals who think you're a moron? Who are you trying to impress? Corey Lewandowski? Meanwhile, the war in Iran is allegedly costing the United States over a billion dollars every day. But it's worth it no matter how much it costs U.S. taxpayers, said Israel. A billion dollars. At this rate, over a year, you could cover the health care costs of over 20 million people with enough money left over to buy a new sex plane for Kristi Noem every single day. the next debate will be over funding this war politico reports that the administration may ask congress to approve 50 billion dollars in emergency funding on top of the nearly one trillion dollars congress has already provided to the pentagon and while chris murphy said other than fetterman he didn't believe there would be other votes for it a few other senators didn't rule it out uh there were big contentious fights over funding the wars in iraq and afghanistan after those wars had begun but those were both conflicts that congress had already approved This would mean, in this case, that the president can start a war without Congress, without even explaining why we're at war, really. And that lawlessness becomes leverage to create pressure for Congress to fund the war as if it had been improved from the start. Why bother having a Congress at all? Just turn the Capitol into America's most beautiful spirit Halloween. Oh, look, it's the terrifier. No, that's Mitch McConnell. And I can see the arguments. Trump is depleting resources. We need to defend our interests outside of this conflict. and we don't want to be vulnerable to our adversaries. And this war has destabilized the region and created new threats. And while I didn't support Trump's decision to start the war, that doesn't change the current reality. But at each turn, it's like we have to relearn the lesson of having someone with Trump's nature and power. Yes, there are costs in trying to stop him, but inevitably the cost of stopping Trump will be exceeded by the cost of enabling him. The only question is if we as a country will learn that lesson before or after it's too late or never. We may just never crack it. One more story before we go. This week, a math teacher named Tom Chan was placed on indefinite leave from San Francisco's Lowell High School after it was discovered he filled his math quizzes with problems that were very problematic And I know what you thinking Oh no woke is back You can make a joke anymore Wait Wait On a Valentine Day theme quiz students were told the amount of money you spend on a date varies inversely to how much they weigh. A typical girl that weighs 120 pounds will cost you $55. And then the students were asked that on a date with Ashley, how much will it cost if she weighs 220 pounds? Some of the questions had nothing to do with math. According to the San Francisco Chronicle, one quiz asked, how tall are you and how much do you weigh? Another asked, when was the last time you gave candy to a fat kid? And finally, pick one, pretty or smart, and why? That one's actually a good question. I pick pretty because sure, smart got me to where I am today, but where I am today is on camera. 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That is the best way you can support what we're doing. So please, please, please subscribe. It really does help us. Crooked.com slash friends. All right. You can see my next guest on his upcoming woodworking comedy tour. Put your hand saws together for Nick Offerman. Look at this. Beloved. Beloved. Beloved. This crowd is juiced. They're juiced up. Because they love you. Can I tell you something? I finished Death by Lightning last night. It is fucking awesome. Oh, thank you so much. I loved it. And you are so good in it. God, thank you. I really, it's excellent. I was really blown away. The only criticism I have of it is like four episodes. What a tease. Yeah. What a tease with four episodes. Well, I mean, that's endemic of our business right now. It's the story of James Garfield. It was on Netflix. And I play his vice president, Chester Arthur. And there's no fucking way it should have been made. No. It's so outside the algorithm. But this really smart guy named Mike Makowski adapted it from Candace Millard's wonderful book. book and one guy at Netflix, it's the guy who greenlit, um, the queen's gambit, which, which is the biggest hit they've ever had. So this guy has a golden ticket and every once a year he can green light something. And he was like, I like this weird, uh, James Garfield thing. It's the producers of game of Thrones, Benny off and Weiss. Like it's a fucking gorgeous show. It's awesome. And it's, it's, what's funny about that too. is like, if you're the guy that makes the chess show that's a hit, they'll let you do whatever. You know, like, we're going to tell the guy that made chess a hit that he's wrong? I'm not going to be the stupid person that does that. It's true. Satisfyingly, he did get fired then after Death by Lightning, and I think he's in Amazon now. Tough town, tough town. It's a tough business. It's a tough business. Now, your sixth book is out now. It is about woodworking. It's called Little Woodchucks, Offerman Woodshop's Guide to tools and tomfoolery. Did you notice that my hands are kind of supple and soft, but also wet? I did. I did. I mean, you have calluses from the space bar and the shift key. Yeah, your hand doesn't get worn from Pilates. You don't get the tough working man's hand from core stuff. You know, my hands are also pretty soft. I've been working a lot more as an actor than a woodworker, but I still maintain my woodshop. But the beauty of this, of my book, is that you don't have to become a laborer. You don't have to split all the firewood to heat your house all year. But if you learn to split firewood or if you hammer a nail or get a saw and some boards and just build a porch or a doghouse, I'm telling you, it is so much more empowering. and you will get so much more of a boner or lady boner or whatever sort of boner you get. So much more than any video game you can play, than any bullshit, any software can deliver you. It's creating your own world. It's curating your own physical life. I'm telling you, you will blow your load. that's a i didn't know it was like that i didn't know it was like that i made stuff at camp but i never i was before i had loads and the thing is it's it's a gateway you many people don't get into woodworking but you go to the hardware store and you see a workshop for like stained glass windows or welding or blacksmithing. You can make so many things. You can become a maker of lasagna. Or maybe you don't build things. Maybe you become an architect and you design things. Orgasms are a thing you can make with your hands and be paid handsomely to do it. It does feel like you're fighting for something which is, whether it's video games or social media, you get a little hit over and over and over again. But you have to really commit to something like building or cooking or anything off the screen. And it does require more of an investment. But then there's more of a payoff. Right. But you've got to convince people to make that investment. It's true. And all kidding aside, it is like a physical relationship. That's why there are so many incels. There are so many people being isolated because it's much easier to pleasure yourself. but there's now this is just i've only read about this but uh those who have crunched the numbers say that the the returns are diminishing whereas if you put in the work and and make yourself vulnerable to a stack of lumber or to a lovemaking partner the the payoff is a house over a roof over your head or a child or, you know. And do you find that it's sort of a beneficial thing for you to compare your loved one to lumber? And does that lead to the kind of lovemaking that you would like in your life? Look, I'm married to the goddess Megan Mullally, who there are things that she does like rough, but those things are not in the bedroom. So like finishes, say, on a countertop. She loves to sand walnut, yeah. She likes coarse grit. Chester A. Arthur. So I feel like you're making these interesting choices. So Death by Lightning, it is about the story of what happens to James Garfield. But it's also about this battle between corruption and people who actually want to invest and believe in people. You made this other movie, Sovereign, which is about the – it's based on a real story. But it's about these so-called sovereign citizens, communities, people that believe they're not beholden to our laws. And I feel like you're searching for something in the things you're doing about this moment. And I was thinking about Sovereign, and there are these videos, these viral videos, and you'll see them. It's somebody getting pulled over and saying, I don't have to give you my driver's license. I don't respond to your laws. I'm a sovereign citizen. And there's a sadness to it because then these people end up in courts. They're underprepared, and they're not – the system comes down on them. But you kind of understand what they're fighting against, this feeling like you're kind of trapped in a kind of binding system that you didn't make. Yeah, it's interesting. um i i i it seems like i'm choosing these things but strangely they are organically the projects that are coming to me and i'm i'm very grateful for it because this movie sovereign which nobody saw from last year the film the filmmaker should win a fucking oscar it's so well written and directed his name's christian swagle but the thing is i get it if you watch the trailer it's like a January 6th guy or a QAnon guy and you're like I don't want to fucking watch that that's what's happening like I want to watch you know Zendaya's tits like you know or chess I want something about chess yeah or like maybe like a kind of intricate look at a president in the late 1800s during the late Gilded Age but I'm so like my agent sent me this script and it's simply you you hit the nail on the head this movie humanizes this guy and and i thought it was so important and i did i think it's so moving because you see why someone why good people who are just trying to like find love or give love in their lives end up at january 6 or end up in these situations where they're they they feel betrayed by the country by the system where they're like i i need a way out and these particular people are just as misguided as fox news viewers where they're just getting bad information this guy in fact goes around giving seminars and he makes money telling people you don't have to pay attention to the constitution federally or on the state level here's how you parse the language and people are like great here's money but then they get pulled over and they're like i don't you And the cops are like, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. You're going to jail. I'm not subject to the jurisdiction of the county police. It's like, well, for the hell you're not. Yeah. But this movie is so moving. Despite my participation, this kid, Jacob Tremblay, plays my son. He's gorgeous. He makes me cry my eyes out. I couldn't recommend it more. it doesn't look like a good time but it's so powerfully moving and also Dennis Quaid is in it and he unfortunately is a crazy Trump guy with a gospel record in the film or in real life? in real life he like exploded right after we finished the movie he suddenly came out with a gospel country record and went on Tucker Carlson Carlson, and fucking Hannity to play his Trump gospel songs. And we were like, what? What? I mean, he's a hero of my life. I've looked up to him. Yeah, he's great. He's a great actor. Wait, I thought his brother was the one that was doing it. He was very crazy. And he went away. But Dennis kept it under wraps until just last year. Huh. Interesting. But he's now gone. He was just on Air Force One. he just was on a flight like he was it was a news story that he was the first person to know about Iran what? fucking Dennis Quaid I was at the Brandi Carlisle concert missed the whole goddamn thing just me and a bunch of kind of in the Venn diagram between theater kids and lesbians I mean in a great way chill out changing subjects did all your work with Wood prepare you to play a gay character on The Last of Us? uh i've never i've never had it couched uh quite that way um no i i would say it it prepared me to play a survivalist um but uh i don't i don't know that anything um prepared me to play that character more than the incredible script by Craig Mazin. People responded so positively to that work, and that doesn't happen because I'm so cute. I know, it's hard to believe. But that was the best script. Everyone knew, as soon as they read that script, they were like, holy shit, you've done it. That's cool. It made you cry. When you read it, you cried reading the script. You were like, oh, my God, this is what it's all about. It made everybody – anyone who hadn't seen it, if you had seen it, when you talked about it to people that hadn't seen it, you sounded crazy. You're like, got to watch the zombies on. You're going to cry your heart. Episode 3 of the mushroom show. It's going to knock you on your fucking ass. The zombies, they're in it, but it's cool. It's really sad, but also beautiful. It was unbelievable. But I just want to hit Chester Arthur again real quick because we keep coming back because the thing that's beautiful about this episode of history that I didn't know and I love presidents in history and I saw Assassins so I knew about Charlie Gatteau but I didn't know the story of James Garfield who got selected entirely against his will and nominated for the Republican presidential nomination back when the Republicans were the good people and elected completely against his will, this farmer from Ohio. And that part is so moving to see the people say, we're sick of this corruption. We're sick of this kind of Trumpian government. Give us this James Taylor Rico or give us this truth teller. Fuck it. And then Chester Arthur is one of the sort of main mafiosi Like in the bad guys, I can't think of the – The stalwarts. These are the corrupt – this is a corrupt group of people that run out of New York, and they basically treat the government like a piggy bank. Yeah. But they have a lot of power, and they control a lot of the federal income at that time. They control the harbor. They're the harbor masters, and all the money comes in, all the import – they take all the cash. and so they buy all the offices and so Chester Arthur gets gets put in installed as the vice president as a as a fuck you to Garfield it's it's the bad guys being like okay you're gonna put your boy scout in the presidency we're gonna we're gonna put Luca Brasi in the vice presidency and Chester Arthur had he was a good guy who was was corrupted by by Roscoe Conkling the guy running the stalwarts and uh his his conscience eventually garfield and garfield's wife um they lucretia they they say there's a good man in there like you have the opportunity if you want to to step up to the plate and do some good you're you're the vice president and ultimate and then he spoiler alert he becomes the president and there are influences that say hey man i know you've been a piece of shit here for a while but you know the president and you you have the opportunity to step up to the plate and become a good man we need you to do that and he does he becomes an incredible supporter of civil rights and he turns it around and it's just it's so moving to see a story like that in our white house yeah um well it's interesting just because garfield i didn't know much about garfield either and in part you don't know much about him because his presidency is cut down and you can't spoil history that's how history you can't spoil it what happened and it happened in it it's in wikipedia uh so but but he was someone who was clearly like an extraordinary person and like had very forward-looking beliefs and chester arthur wasn't but he signs the legislation that Garfield had wanted, which is, it is a story of someone kind of becoming a better version of himself, whether or not he was ever going to be as good. He only serves the one term. He's sort of a kind of an accidental president, but did become a better version of himself than he otherwise would have been. Absolutely. Cool. And if you haven't seen it, it's on Netflix. Mike Shannon, Matthew McFadden is astonishing as the assassin. Betty Gilpin. Awesome. As Lucretia. It's Bradley Whitford, Shea Wiggum. and I am successfully fat I got I look really fucking fat oh did you have to was role Did you prepare for it He real porky So I had a fat suit but I also gained 20 pounds And if you ever have to do this, the period costumes are great because you get those paper collars and you get it a little too tight and then you create this cleavage underneath the chin. Yeah, you had that great kind of like 1890s bruiser thing. Like you would fight like this. That's right. With your fists like that. Now it's time for a game. You're a man who loves power tools as much as you love tomfoolery, which is why we want to play a game we're calling Would You Rather? Sweet graphic. Here's how it works. We all don't have a... We don't have a... Benny off... You know, this is a podcast. Right. We don't have that Westeros money. No, we don't have Westeros money. All right, here's how it works. I'm going to name a power tool and a person. You'll tell us if you'd let them use it. First up, a stationary Powermatic planer operated by your Margo's Got Money Troubles co-star, Elle Fanning. Ooh. I mean, a stationary Powermatic planer is pretty easy and idiot-proof. So, I mean, Elle, I would trust to, like, fly an airplane. She is just a superheroic person and incredibly capable. And she also has great common sense. So that's a no-brainer, absolutely. It's a yes. Okay, next up, a hollow chisel mortiser used by J.D. Vance. Oh, boy. Unfortunately, the hollow chisel mortiser has an action that can best be described as a fucking action. You plunge proboscis into the wood, creating a more cavity. And so, I mean... I'm sorry, we need an answer to the question. Would you let him use the chisel mortiser or no? That'd be no. All right, next up, we have an oscillating spindle sander operated by Amy Poehler. Oh, boy. I mean, first of all, this is... I'm sorry, this is even more of a fuck machine. It's a tabletop with a cylindrical cylinder covered in sandpaper, and it spins and goes like this. Wow. I mean, it's like you can actually have sex with this machine. You don't want to remove the sandpaper first. You would, for sure. For sure. And you can see below there, you can select your diameter. Because that's what's up there. Look, it's more than anybody would need. Yeah, this is like... These are plenty. Down here is plenty. This is Tom of Finland shit. Now, to answer your question, absolutely, I would let Amy use that machine only because it would be so goddamn funny. Next up, your very own slab-leveling jig, which you invented and was featured on the cover of Fine Woodworking Magazine in the year 2011. Look at that shit. However, the person using it is looks-maxing influencer Clavicular. Do you know who Clavicular is? No, I know this is interesting. I know that's a person that has been in the popular culture news recently. Do you say it's an influencer? Yeah, he's an influencer. And why was he in the news last week? Because it's simply impossible to answer that. It simply can't. That is a question. Why is Spain? I don't know. Where is Triangle? It can't be answered. Would you let him use it? What's the machine? It's your jig. Oh, fuck no. Okay. and let's do one more let's do one more director David Lynch's bandsaw which you purchased from the auction right after he died you didn't know the man but you got his fucking bandsaw which I think is cool I bought his bandsaw and the person using it is your wife Megan Mullally but you forgot to do that thing you said you'd do forgot to do the thing you said you'd do but I forgot oh I mean look, I'm besotted with this woman. She can do whatever she wants to and I will thank her for the privilege. We've been together 26 years and I do the dishes by God. Gotta do dishes. You gotta do them. Gotta do the dishes. You gotta do. Yeah, even when you cook, you gotta do the dishes. I believe in that. It's stolen valor if you cook and then don't do the dishes. That's what I feel. I go above and beyond and it's never done me wrong and that's a good and work that wood you know what I mean Littlewood Checks wherever you get your books and for tour dates you can go to nickofferman.co slash events this has been very fun and we'll be right back that's generous thank you hey don't go anywhere there's more of Love It or Leave It coming up Love It or Leave It brought to you by SimpliSafe if you're like me you're desensitized to the dozens of notifications on your phone each day. But if the latest ping is from your security camera, ignoring it could spell disaster. Picture this. Somebody is breaking in, but you're giving a huge presentation at work. You're at the movies. You're on a flight at 30,000 feet. Oh no, you're back in elementary school and you're not wearing any clothes during the school dance. Yikes. And your home's being broken into and your rabbi's there. That's too late. That's the point. You need Simply Safe. 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So just a chill night at home for her. That's right. you know when you get a text from Megan it could be that uh or it could be like the craziest there's there was a guy last night that had a dachshund puppy and the guy would go like this on like a day bed and the puppy would run up and flip upside down and and kiss him and then the guy would move over and the puppy would do that. And so it's one of those two things from Megan. The beauty of life and the horrors of life. In the case of the second one, then she says, it's us. Aww. And we're back! You know our next guest from your TV and from the upcoming sci-fi epic Project Hail Mary. It's Milana Vindrup. Hi, welcome. Thanks for being here. You guys. Hello. Here you go there. We'll switch around. Hi. Hi, nice to meet you. Hey. Thanks for being here. Oh, my pleasure. Now, you were a child actor. I was. And Ryan Gosling was also a child actor. Yeah, we had so much to talk about. And had you heard of him before you met him on set? I had never heard of Ryan Gosling before, two years ago. And you just saw the movie for the first time. I did, just like the day before yesterday. And it's good. It's phenomenal. It's so good. any big changes between the two? You know, so when we were filming this, there's a lot of improv. The day that I filmed with Ryan, if it has anybody here read the book, let me just tell you a little bit about the movie. The movie is about Ryan going into space to save the world. And it's a comedy. It's a friendship story actually between him and Rocky, this alien that he finds from another planet that is also trying to save the universe. And it's gorgeous and hilarious. And the music is bananas. And Ryan is, of course, so funny. But also Rocky the alien is so funny. And so when I shot my first day on set was after Ryan had shot all of his astronaut alone in a spaceship stuff for like eight months. And so he was so eager for us to improvise with him. and because I had read the book, I kept improvising this thing about the gene. Like, you got to go to space because you have the gene. Remember in the book? Yeah. You don't. You don't. You don't. So it's like, in the book, that's the thing that's lost. And it's a thing you don't even remember. So who cares? Didn't even remember it. I didn't care. They were smart to lose it. They made some good edits. Good cuts. Yeah, yeah, good edits. Good cuts. They cut the gene? Can you believe it? I'm actually bummed. Yeah, yeah. Did you read the book? I did. Did you like it? I loved it. It feels like it's up your alley because it's about somebody using their hands and brain in an emergency to solve problems. It is, but it's also just the fucking greatest book. Andy Weir, who wrote The Martian. The book is so wonderful. And actually, I read it, and then we listened to the audio book. The audio book is fucking great. That reader is astonishing. Really good. It's really good. All right. We love it. Just see the movie. Read the book. It's worth reading the book, but if you go straight to the movie, you're going to have an amazing time, too. You were also across from George Clooney on ER. Yeah, I was. When you were a kid. I was. Was he good? He, I think, was the first time I had, like, a sexual body experience. And I was, like, I was maybe eight. And I was like, there's a feeling, I don't know why, but I want to invite you over to my house for dinner. But yeah, otherwise shit actor, shit person. So the reason I was thinking about that because you have been hustling since you were a kid. Yeah, yeah. Well, I've been very busy. I don't like sitting still. It's a problem with my brain. Yeah. But I do really, I think, you know what? One of the things that George did was call me kiddo and no one had done that because I'm an immigrant. like English isn't my first, like at home we never called each other kiddo or nobody called me that. I didn't call my parents kiddo. And so, and even now when somebody calls somebody else kiddo, I'm like, that's my inside thing with George. Who probably does not remember that I exist. I bet he remembers. We don't keep in touch. Guess what? He fucking remembers. You think? He has that thing. Yeah? Yeah. I did. Is that a disease? No. I'll make this brief. I did ER with George in 98. That's like when I did it. It was the first live episode of ER. That's a thing? It was. And there was a big pot of soup backstage, and we met at the soup, and we said, this feels very maritime, and we started singing the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald together. And I had like three lines. I had a small roll. And we laughed and was like, all right, enjoy your soup, kiddo. And then... Wait, he says that to everybody? Literally, like, seven years later, I meet him with Meghan at an Oscar party. It was him and Patricia Clarkson, and the four of us met, who turned out to be Tammy 1 to Meghan's Tammy 2, crazily, for those in the know. But Clooney, we get introduced, and Clooney goes, Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald. He has that superpower. where he would, he'd be like, kiddo. Yeah. Oh, wow. That's beautiful. Don't take a rain check on that dinner. Even now, you just doing an impression of him. I'm like, stop it, George. Do you want to know something interesting about the song, The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald? Please. I take it back, actually, immediately. So listen to this. Listen to this. That song, a lot like Death by Lighting, had no business being a hit. It's a song about an old shipwreck. Here's something crazy. The recording that you hear, you go to Spotify right now and you listen to The Wreck of the Edmonds. You are barely sitting on that chair. I know. What? You have half a butt cheek. Yeah, that's all you need. Wow. That's all you need. So The Wreck of the Edmonds Fitzgerald, the song you hear, you go to Spotify right now that's been there for whatever, 40 years. That is the first take. I don't mean the first take they recorded. I mean, it's the first take of the song. The drummer who doesn't come in for a while in that song. He had never heard the song before. He was just figuring it out. And that's the one. And they tried to record it a bunch of other times and they never got another one as good. And so that is the take. That's the magic of that song. And it became a hit. An insane long song about an old shipwreck. 12 minutes long. 12 minutes long. It's the first take. Ah. So you're saying they kind of did improv, like the thing they do here every night? Yeah. In a sense, that's right. They improv their way to that song about that ship. So, Milana, you first broke out doing AT&T commercials. A lot of other comedic performers, John Hodgman, Justin Long for Apple, Peter Gross for Infinite Sonic commercials, Maria Bamford on Target. It must have been like both an incredible break, but also like a little like, is this what I want it to be? Like, you know, like, how did you like, how did you deal with that? I dealt with it by taking control. I eventually directed the ads. And so I just thought if I can make them good, if I can make them funny, then I feel good about doing them. And then if I could hire great people, my friends, and then it kind of like quells whatever insecurity I have about doing something for a giant corporation. damn that's a good answer and last year you now there were some sort of like fan attention of an unhealthy variety of you being on these AT&T commercials people felt like they knew you yeah well people there was a picture that came out of me having a body and people were like that is a woman has a breast and uh and they were very uh confused by that women can't be funny and selling things and have a body. And, uh, and so I think the internet just got confused by that. Yeah. I guess the commercials did give me a lot of male attention because they play during football games, you know? And so I think people would watch the game and then during commercial, a girl would come on and she happened to have a human representation. And so they would look her up and then I ended up getting at this male following. And so, uh, last year during the fires, you know we were all here in LA trying to figure out how to help people and people were giving away clothes and furniture and all that and as I was like talking to people I'm like oh what they really need is help with their rent what they really need is to like figure out how they're going to pay a mortgage and rent their place or how they're going to fix their place so many things right people really needed financial help and at the same time I heard about all of these girls fucking crushing on OnlyFans. Do you know that the number one earner on OnlyFans makes more money than LeBron James? What? That is feminism. Yes. And we have been taught that we should not show our bodies because it is shameful and that is some propagandic bullshit because it is so powerful and it hurts no one. You know what's interesting? She makes more money and she makes the people at home do the dribbling and the dishes i wish to god i had a drum set so i could do a rim shot that was incredible anyway so uh not that i like i did an only fans but i i did a parody of it and i called it only philanthropy and uh i sold basically like a fireman's calendar uh and i raised five hundred thousand dollars for fire victims and so yeah now i want to do it again but i want like more people to do it in fact i think you should do it i mean we're all like posting shit online anyway and we're posting thirst straps for fucking zuckerberg to benefit off of so why not do it in an exclusive controlled manner and then have people donate money to whatever cause you care about. If you even care about anything. All right. I'll do it for APAC. I'll do it for APAC. Now, first of all, I think there's two questions for Nick. One, given that I think you've put those buns out there a little bit. Can we show the photo? Oh, no. I think you should consider doing this. I think you should consider doing this. But also, the show you're... I just want to say that they were so generous with the grapes. Oh, that's the same. Can I ask you this? Here is the question. I had a question about the grapes. Did they start with more grapes and remove or add grapes until you were good? No, it was like a grizzled old biker dude. And he came up and laid those grapes out and just nodded at me and was like... I got you, brother. So first of all, I think we should talk about it. But also, your show on Apple TV, Margot's Got Money Troubles, is actually about Elle Fanning starting in OnlyFans, right? It is, yeah. And my favorite sort of story point is that she is a single mom. She's having trouble finding her way. She can't keep a job. and she discovers OnlyFans and she's very creative in the show. She's a creative writer. And so she applies her actual talent to creating her OnlyFans. Basically, she's doing nudes, but really creatively in a cool way that she creates storylines in her own little world. And so it's very empowering. She's very successful at it, which makes a lot of her life bountiful and kind of saves her, but then she's pilloried and excommunicated by polite society who say, you're doing porn? You're not welcome in our grocery store or whatever. And so it's a great examination of this exact point. Milana, what do you think my storyline should be for our photos together? Angry, scared, woodworking? Yeah, I think you should be using, what was that device that you said fucks? What's the one? The oscillating spindle sander. I think that the theme The oscillating spindle sander Yeah Hey we can find the oscillating spindle sander Don worry about it Actually if you want to come do a calendar shoot at the woodshop we'll just set you up with 12 different machines. I mean... Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Yeah, yeah. Applaud in the dark, you cowards. All right. We'll talk about it. All right, too. Let's see. How many more Pilates do I have to do before I'm ready? No. Now, one of the many things I did love about Project Hail Mary is that it's about science being a force for good, that we're ingenious and talented, and that doesn't always have to lead to a dystopia. That may be the vibe we're in right now, but people can do incredible things, and they can do it to solve problems, and there's no problem we can't solve. So I wanted to highlight some recent, thrilling, non-existentially terrifying technologies in a game we're calling In Space No One Can Hear You Dream. Huh. I'm going to read about a cool, exciting new tech. And together you will guess whether or not you think it's real or if it's just something I believe should be real. Are you ready? Yeah. Okay. First off, a new kind of lithium battery that will double the range of electric vehicles. That sounds plausible. That sounds legitimate. It is real. You got it. Researchers. That's exciting. They said they discovered something that if used, they can do it. I don't know. It's complicated science stuff involving fluorinated hydrocarbon, but they can extend the battery life twofold, but also be used as temperatures as low as negative 50 degrees Celsius, which is great for when it's cold. Fuck yeah. It's so cold. I can get all the way to Flagstaff. You're always going to Flagstaff. It's not a euphemism. Not a euphemism. No, he loves Flagstaff. Next up, a makeup applicator eye mask, which stamps a full look directly onto the user's face. A version of this actually existed that they used on SNL once when they were making somebody Cleopatra. Like they had a quick change. Do you know about this? Yeah, this is something that was invented on SNL. I know exists. So if you made that up and you think it's not true, you're wrong, John. Next question. Okay. Are we counting points? You're crushing it. You're crushing it. Next up, night vision contact lenses. Whoa. Night vision contact lenses. For perverts only. I love it. I think it's real. I mean, I want it to be real. Yeah. It's real. Yay. Report an article in the New Scientist. Newly engineered contact lenses will reportedly allow people to see beyond the visible light range, picking up flickers of infrared light, even in the dark or with their eyes closed. Wait, what? How? It can see through their eyelids? I guess infrared can go through the eyelids a little bit. I don't know. I'm not sure. I'm not a scientist. I just read Project Hail Mary. That'd be cool, seeing in the dark. Yeah. Finally. The dark is so scary. But also, you could cheat. You just close your eyes, and you're like, I'm not looking. You can change in front of me. I'm not looking. it's weird that you went there that's where everyone here went alright next up a new incredibly fuel efficient aircraft that's basically one giant wing fuel efficient aircraft that's just one giant wing I can't imagine it I guess is it like a glider like a Like, is it like a glider? I mean, I'm getting, I'm envisioning sort of an expanded boomerang shape. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Like the thing people jump off of mountains with and then just glide down. Glider. Yeah. Like I said. Wow. Got your ass. Yes, it's real. It's the blended wing aircraft from aeronautical startup Jet Zero. It's fuel efficient. It's got a wider cabin. I think it's cool. And they've got approval for a demonstrator model. Oh, it's like a glider. It's like a glider. Kind of. No, it's nothing like a glider. But look at that. How cool would that be? It's like a one big room. It's like the whole plane. They made the whole plane out of the wing. It is more bird-like than most planes. It does kind of look like a dove or like a sea bird. Yeah. They should call it sea bird. I love it. The algorithm thinks I'm really interested in plane technology. So I get a lot of new plane technology. We had to cut several questions about different kinds of new plane technology. There's a new kind of engine that's coming down the pike. Blow your freaking mind. So the algorithm isn't wrong. No, I'm interested. They got my number. Hey, they got my number. Oh, those freaks got me. Next up, a home printer that actually works. That's a fabrication. Yeah, I'm calling bullshit. Doesn't work, can't work. Will never happen. All right. Next up, I want to know that this was a source of a big fight when we were talking about doing this because next up, a new urinal shape that allows people of all heights to pee comfortably. I don't know enough about urinals to know that this is a problem. Can you help me, please? What's the problem? It's solving? problem. At usual, typical bathrooms, there are three or two or four normal height urinals, too tall for short people. Okay. Too tall for you? Yes. And then there's one a little too low. That's basically for kids and little people, too low, too low, too high, too low. It sucks. There's no good urinal for me. Can you just, can you, sorry, this isn't going to make sense for the people listening but if you're standing up and the one that's too high like ends here no that's really high okay so what are we talking about here's the situation here's the situation basically you want to be peeing down but not too far down into the bowl and so and so and so for you so for if you're under 5'8 if you're under 5'8 you're peeing a little bit too close to the to the material. So it splashes back. So it splashes. But if you're going to the low urinal, you're peeing too far. So it also splashes back. It's really just, do you want to get, where do you want to get got? Down here or up here? That's stupid. That's stupid to me. You don't know, you're living life out there in that sweet spot. I don't know where you're at, 5'11"? Where are you? 6? Yeah, 5'10 and 7'8". That's beautiful. I was measured at 5'6 and 3 quarters and I asked the nurse, can I say 5'7? And she said, Trump is president. You can say whatever you want. So anyway, I have a design for a new urinal. Oh, this is your design? Yes. Oh, it's not real. It should be real. I forgot they were playing game. And here's the thing. I have a design that I believe in my brain doesn't exist. It literally only is here that I believe is going to change the urinal game forever. I actually could put up a picture, but I don't want it to be stolen. Right. And so I won't let us see the picture yet, yet, until I actually get a patent. So I made a bet with Hallie was I have one year to get some kind of an actual patent or something for it. We need to take this on Shark Tank. You bet. You bet. Is it a toilet? it? You know, the founder of Spank said, never tell anybody about your ideas until it's in the store because people will always find reasons to tear a woman CEO down. That's what she said. I know I pointed at me. Okay. Is it adjustable? You know what? I've already You've said too much. Yeah. I think it's like, what's that pasta shell that curls around? So the opening. Shut the fuck up. Everyone here sign an NDA. There's people back there at the doors. They have an NDA. If you don't sign, I'm so mad. Everyone pass your phone down to the end of the row. I like this sit down urinal idea or toilet. Yeah. Right. Right. I just came off the dome. Yeah. And finally, a doorbell you press when a fish needs help. That's right. You heard me. A doorbell you can press when a fish needs help. And you're not the person to help the fish. You could be the you. A doorbell you press when a fish needs help. This is a fish you care about. Yeah. Where is a triangle? No, where? and why is Spain? it's in the Netherlands technically why is Spain? yeah how is blue? I'm not sure you know that was badass recall you just exhibited well you started it but I was out here yeah you were backstage but I was out here is the fucking fish doorbell real or not? it must be it sounds so stupid it must exist Yeah, you got it. It's the Netherlands fish doorbell. Streaming 24-7 from a lock outside Utrecht. Anyone in the world can alert the lock operator if they spot a fish swimming up to the lock. If there is, you can go ahead and press the fish doorbell to help the fish. It's like a crowdsource fish doorbell. Let's see it. That's it. Well, that's it. And that's it. It's a real fish? It's a video game? Who cares? They're real fish. Don't talk about video games in front of him. He loses it. No, I actually, while you were talking about that, I did also if I may, think about Project Hail Mary because one of the things I kept thinking about while we were making it was one, how hard it is, how good it feels to do hard things, period. How hard it is to make a movie and how good that feels. How hard it is to make love. I'm just speaking in terms so you understand. But like, but you know but this movie is really about that. It is about like doing so much work, math, science, friend making to save the world but it feels so good to do hard things because it's really the only thing that is rewarding enough to be worthwhile. Whereas like doom scrolling feels easy but you feel like shit afterwards. You know? And you're getting nothing done. You're putting money in the pockets of billionaires. You're giving up the one thing you don't get more of at the end but just time. I know. Except at the end of our lives we'll be like oh I wish I could have five more minutes with the love of my life, except we had the love of our lives now, and we are wasting that time. Throw your phones out the window! After these messages, we'll be right back. Hey, don't go anywhere. There's more of Love It or Leave It coming up. Love It or Leave It is brought to you by Blinds.com. If you've ever thought about upgrading your window treatments but didn't want the hassle, Blinds.com is here to change the game. They're the only company that lets you shop custom blinds and shades online that backs it up with a professional in-home measure and installation service. At Blinds.com, you can skip the stress and get expert design advice through their convenient virtual consultations on your schedule. Whether you know exactly what you want or need a little help deciding, they've got you covered. Do it yourself or sit back and let Blinds.com handle everything. 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And we're the hosts of Hysteria, the podcast for women who care about democracy culture and not losing their minds in the process. We break down the news, call out the nonsense, and spotlight the women actually fighting back on Capitol Hill, in classrooms, and everywhere the stakes are high. It's sharp, honest analysis featuring women's voices with humor and zero handholding. Listen to Hysteria wherever you get your podcasts and watch full episodes on YouTube. And we're back! Everybody, check out Project Hail Mary. It's in theaters on Friday, March 20th. And Margo's Got Money Troubles is on Apple TV on April 15th. That's right, text day. Now it's time for second thoughts. Let's see. Should I regret the supreme leader? What makes the leader supreme is they add tomatoes and sour cream. I don't regret that. Don't regret it. I don't agree that. Hannah Gadsby catching strays in the monologue. No regrets? Yeah, they're in. They're in. They're in. Yeah, it's okay. We picked so many sexual wood machines. I don't regret that. Not enough sexual wood machines, I say. It's a thing. It's a wood shop thing. Show me a tool that's not sexy. What about an awl? Oh, my God. You just got to use the other end. Yeah, point towards enemy. Do you have a second thought about signing up to do only philanthropy at his woodchuck? No. Oh, I think that's been a double confirmation. It's on. I think probably just for the sake of the project, we should have 11 other people for the 11 other months. I think by March or April, people will be like, I could use other physical specimen. Let's vary up the corpus. You know what I mean? Oh, no, who wants 12 months of John? Oh, they're just encouraging. You're right. It wasn't a strong enough woo. It says here that I should regret telling that whole thing about the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald because I ended my own anecdote by gasping. No. I could have done 90 minutes on that song. Isn't that interesting? Yeah, that's... I did know that. I mean, it's a deep thing. It's also insane. He read that in the paper that morning and was like, man, that's fucked up. And he wrote the song so casually, and it was just... Isn't that beautiful? It's so funny because this is why I think like AI, I'm worried about AI, but like we're pulling AI behind us. AI is the water skier. We're the boat. The creativity is coming from the boat. The waters, I don't care how many water skiers you get back there, they're never going to be able to go without the boat. You know what I mean? Because I don't know. So you're saying we should stop the boat. Yeah, everybody stop the fucking boat. Absolutely stop the boat. Oh, it says here that I tucked myself into a nude photo shoot in a woodshop. I don't know. No one said nude but you, Bill. You know what? they're always saying us activists gotta put our bodies on the line right? that's right as comfortably as you want and that's consent that's a beautiful thing I will I'll go two months I'll do two months two months hell yeah Are you familiar with the San Francisco neighborhood called the Ponderosa? Yes. That's where I will sell my two months. Oh, is it sort of like an area for sort of a bear situation? Well, apparently there's a... There's a demographic. The California state animal. And then my final second thought is I thought I was going to kind of casually float my urinal idea and then the two of you absolutely nailed me to the fucking wall. And I just want to say that you got my number. Wow. And that was exciting. I say follow through. I will. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. There are a lot of five, six people that want a manicotti-shaped urinal. A stuffed shell. 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