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And whether it be their nest, whether it be a cave, some sort of dwelling that that they call home. is there ever been anything that's been found in research uh where someone goes this looks like a habitat for something but it doesn't seem it's not for a deer it's not for this it's not for that has there ever been anything that's found out there that someone goes i wonder if this habitat here is for you know a bigfoot or something of that nature actually that has occurred well particularly into Bigfoot field, into Sasquatch. Actually, I believe it was in the 1990s or early 2000s in Ohio. There was a giant nest found as if almost like an igloo, but created from branches and trigs and leaves that was interroven. And it was huge. It could fit maybe two or three large men in it. And the opening was for something very large. and people went and what they looked at is like okay a kid can't create this it would take maybe 20 kids over several weeks to create this because of how intricate it was and when they looked at that nest they when you realize that great apes build nests so people have speculated that grass hut was created by a sasquatch and also would let's say the environment if you look at when you think about the environment of north america you believe okay of things known there's no giant wildernesses out there which a lot of people assume that while in reality there's a lot of wilderness out there there's a lot of places even if you get maybe 20 minutes away from a large town that you can get lost in easily due to how big the forests are especially in the pacific northwest and canada and heck even parts of let's just say the american south there's parts of the swamps and bottomlands that a human can get lost there and never be found again and if a person can do that a creature that lives in that environment can for sure hide can for sure be hidden away from these us people and also with other cryptids there's a possibility of them just being able to hide very easily due to the fact that they know what humans are or maybe they're so rare that we just barely see them take for instance uh i live in here in texas and in east texas they see there's hundreds and hundreds of black bears but i've talked to plenty of people out there and barely ended up to a black bear and it's like well even if they're there doesn't necessarily mean you're going to see them or if they're just so far away from society that you're not going to see them unless you go into their environment which only really hunters and maybe a hiker every so often goes in the deep dark wilderness because most people that go trip on a hiking trip or camping trip on the weekend they don't really go that far out there they don't go into the wilderness into the deep dark mountains or swamps they just kind of stay a little bit closer to society they stay onto the trail onto the campsite but the people that go out there off the trail away from the campsite those are the people that have the sightings due to the fact that there is so much space for these creatures if you look at it's for sure the american landscape not to mention internationally what kind of uh corpses or evidence has been found out there that would lead one to believe maybe something like this, in fact, does exist. And this is the evidence. I mean, has there been anything fairly definitive or anything that would lead one to go? We found something. You know, a lot of people will write it off as this or that, but many believe maybe it's something else. That's one thing with also cryptozoology is that we don't have any like physical evidence for Bigfoot or for. dog man afford a lake monster but what we do have is if you look at the fossil record create creation of a fossil is very rare most primatologists themselves say the gnome primates we only know five percent of the whole fossil record of primates for instance not to mention other animals like canines or felines we probably only know a scant amount of what is actually out there. And with it too, is that if you go into the woods, anyone that walks in the forest, you realize you don see bones that often And the bones that you do find are usually of a hunter kill or a deer that died Large predators like bears and cougars and things like that You're really never going to find their bodies due to the fact when they die, they hide away. They get far away from other animals and where people are because they realize they are dying. So they go into certain areas and die there. even people that go and explore caves they almost never find really evidence for large predators like bears or cougars or wolves so when people bring up the argument of we never find any bodily evidence for these creatures it's like well of course you're not it's going to be hard to find them due to the fact that creation of a fossil the creation of a bone or creation of anything that's tangible amount of physical evidence it's very very hard in in the environment because let's just take for instance uh florida and louisiana the southern states it's so humid down there that fossils that bones disappear like that they disappear very quickly and even if we look at the fossil record for instance the only really big fossil finds we we find in places like tar pits or caves or places that animals all of a sudden died quickly other than that you don't really find a lot of fossils out there not to mention the animals that are living now it's just hard to find the bones so let's just take for instance like sasquatch it's a very rare animal most likely it's maybe some are speculating maybe three or four thousand across all and most america and that three or four thousand how many of them die per day per day maybe one and that's one across the whole united states and canada of course you're never going to find that body because it's just so hard to find it because it's it's like a needle in a haystack but the needle itself is hidden away and it's maybe when it died it's going to avoid being found by humans or some have even speculated that they might bury their dead which would even be harder to find due to the fact that you would expect that dead body to be hidden away from people and with other cryptids for instance like lake monsters or like loch the loch this monster at the bottom of lakes we know of how many fishes like a lot of lakes have a lot of known animals but it's really rare that you find like a fish skeleton or you found a something like that so if an unknown animal is there most likely its carcass is at the bottom of the lake and it gets covered over by silt or by dirt and soon enough it's like it was never there and that's what a lot of animals is that the environment is very very good at moving nutrients moving getting rid of bodies so being able to find a body of an unknown animal it's a very very a hard thing to do. And you would have to go out of your way and have a bunch of people out there in order to find maybe just one bone. And even if you found one bone, it's going to be hard to identify that for laymen. Unless you're an anatomist and you can identify that bone, it's going to be even hard to identify that in and of itself. Sure. Is it almost like the ocean? I mean, they continue to find species of fish and ocean life all the time that we didn't know because it's such a vast place and we have explored so little of it. Would you compare our forests and things of that nature almost to to that sort of a thing where, you know, we just kind of scratch the surface of where we live in society? There's not a living. There's areas where it's it's it takes something special to get back into it, to really go beyond just kind of those those close areas of exploration. yes that's like well one good now that's one good analogy that i would say is very true is that like with the ocean and the wilderness because there was just so much unknown out there there's so much things that are let's just take for instance i like in the darkness that we just don't know about and there's hard to find physical evidence for unless you are out there looking for it like a regular person being out in the woods would probably never find physical evidence for like a bigfoot or a unknown canine or unknown feline because they don't know really what they're looking for they might find let's take for instance bigfoot their track they might see a track on on the ground but they might just assume okay that's a bear that's a person while in reality it's a big footprint and just you never realize it and it's very hard in the wilderness because of how vast it is to find evidence for creatures. Think, for instance, rare animals. Wildlife photographers take maybe months to a year just to take a photo of a clouded leopard or another endangered species due to the fact that they're so rare. And these are trained professionals looking for these creatures with a lot of funding behind them, not to mention cryptozoologists that doesn't really have that time or that money behind them look for these creatures sure so of course they can be hidden out there i guess what i wonder sometimes about um you know things like this that are out there is is is there ever the connection to something with a power that is um somewhat supernatural what's your opinion on that of any of these things uh having any sort of you know skill or force or ability that we would consider to be you know supernatural because with me is it's kind of a hard thing with this field because there's plenty of times when the supernatural aspect does come into play i'll take for instance again for sasquatch a lot of people there's like a left and a right there's the people that believe the creature is a physical animal then there's the people that believe it's a spirit or demon or something from a ufo and with me i try to look at all aspects of it but i kind of go on the more physical side of it of more of the scientifically minded but there are plenty of examples of these creatures that might be for instance supernatural i'll take for instance like one creature we brought up before is the goat man that creature evolutionarily probably can't exist because it's a ungulate that's on two legs on hooves that looks almost like a mix between human and goat that there's no precedent for that creature in the fossil record so maybe its origins are if it's out there maybe supernatural or paranormal in some way and the paranormal aspect does come into play But there's a lot of times when, I take for instance people that live on out in the woods they might be have buried they might be living in a haunted house or a haunted location And also they have Bigfoot outside They might have Bigfoot that live in the woods. And a lot of people make a correlation between those two events. While in actuality, I believe there is no correlation. Maybe it's just two things are occurring at the same time, but they don't match. They don't correlate to each other. They're just occurring at the same time. Sure. and with me supernatural does come into play with cryptozoology but it shouldn't be the explanation it's going you shouldn't really explain one mystery with another mystery because it makes it even more harder to explain it makes it even tougher to get to the bottom of because you're trying to explain one mystery with another let me ask one more question before we wrap even if there is some point and day, and I'm going to ask you if you believe this will ever happen, where there is just, you know, hard evidence, you know, let's say a body is found. Let's say they finally find a Bigfoot body or something that is really indisputable, that it's like, this is what we've been looking for. Here it is. Do you think society would even accept that? Just because we are now in this bizarro place where facts seem to be more of a choice than anything else. And we have things in front of us that are clear as day that people just will utterly refuse to accept. And it blows so many others' minds who are on the other side or on the side of science and fact. And yet someone will sit there and go, I don't believe that. That's not true. I mean, and that's on normal things that aren't scary, that aren't necessarily, you know, you know, things that we've never really seen or documented before. The idea that that we do come across something like this at some point with solid evidence. If people can't accept just basic facts in this world anymore, how will they ever in mass accept something like these things existing if we ever find that evidence? yes that's kind of the tough part because how i see it if that's just like for instance a big lobotomy is ever found one day there would have to be a major paradigm shift within society yeah within not just society but the scientific world maybe even the religious aspects or things like that because how we see it is that yeah not a lot of people take facts at face value anymore not a lot of people believe that certain things are out there or believe certain things out there that are not that are not and fact is a thing that it's kind of become more opinionated nowadays and with these creatures if they won't ever be discovered you wonder how people would react like would they not want to go out in the woods anymore would they want to go out and hunt these creatures and that kind of brings to people to think about okay is there like some type of cover-up for these creatures or things like that which we won't i'm not gonna get into because it's just so hard to get into with that but it does bring up would discover would discover these creatures how would people react to because even for instance with known animals We discover new species every year, but you never really hear about it because it's something like a lot of people like to call the zoological black market due to the fact that if, let's just say, the scientific perspective doesn't want people to hear about it, people aren't going to hear about it. So there could be a Bigfoot body, let's just say, discovered tomorrow. But if certain scientifically minded people or, let's just say, government and things like that don't want you don't want it to go out there, it won't. and but let's say if the news of a creature like that discovery does get out into the public they would have to change their paradigm they would have to maybe accept it there would be people that wouldn't but there would be people that would see it as let's just say there's monsters in the woods now let's go out there and hunt them or there's going to be people people that believe okay let's go start conservation or start trying to protect these creatures there'd be so there'd be such a spectrum of people's perspectives that it'd be hard to really get to the bottom of because everyone has their own opinion everyone has their own mindset and you'd have to realize okay like are people going to react it in a good way or bad way or would they just not even believe in the first place because i believe that if a big discovery like that were to occur there'd be plenty of people that wouldn't want to believe it's real or plenty of people that believe it's real and it might not be. And it's kind of just the perspective and the paradigm shift within people's brains if these could just want to be discovered. That wraps up part two of our conversation with Ryan Edwards about the world of cryptids. A big thank you to him for joining us and sharing his knowledge on today's program. And thank you for being a supporter of the show and keeping us on the air. We would not exist without you. Until next time for The Grave Talks, I'm Tony Bruschi. Thanks for listening. Thank you. Thank you. the patients who love cancer. Want more about the regulations where important healthcare is available? Go to acer.nl slash duurzamekeuzes. This does Acer for you and a activehabane community. Acer does it. So, we can now listen to your podcast. Starting a business can be overwhelming. You're juggling multiple roles. Designer, marketer, logistics manager. All while bringing your vision to life. Shopify helps millions of business sell online. 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