21.) Ebro Vs. Rosenberg + Yahya Abdul-Mateen II From Marvel's "Wonder Man" (1/23/26)

Don't call it a podcast. Oh, Ibrahim. Oh, Ebro. Laura Rosenberg show. Rosenberg. Where's our intro music? Oh, man. I've been enjoying this all week. It's changed the whole vibe of the show, if I'm being honest with you. Hey. You know, it's Friday freedom. Okay. We have your emails and voice notes. We have the rundown with Laura style. No, we don't. No, we don't. We're not doing it. No, it's family matters. So we do on Friday. It matters Friday. Yeah. Yeah. And then we have Yaya Abdul Mateen the second. Representing Disney plus and Wonder Man coming on at the end of the show. We taped a combo with him that you guys are going to get. Now I'm going to say this real quick. All right. I don't, I didn't know his name. I was unfamiliar. I have not seen the movies. Okay. So when the name popped up on the thing, I was like, all right, here we go. Ebros got some interview. I don't know who this is. I don't know what this is. What's going on. And let me just say that guy was interesting, smart, great combo. You're going to, you're going to like the button for doubting me. No, I'm not. You're one of the doubters. You're one of the doubters. I saw, I'm right. Sometimes congratulations. You played yourself. You're one of the people I was screaming at on Patreon. No, you just, you've just now put yourself in that game. You just now put yourself in that category of thinking that somehow I got to this point in my career by making bad decisions. Meanwhile, meanwhile, Yeah, go for it. Meanwhile, how many, how many podcasts you got that nobody listens to? How many pieces of content you make on a daily basis? Nobody checking for, how many randoms that never do anything. Huh? None. I do not do interviews with Rando's. Nobody knows. Underground, underground rap, underground rap. Yeah, exactly. Why are you doing this? Stop it right now. You stop it. No, Ibro likes to interview politicians and ramble on about God knows what for 20 minutes. And no one gives a shit and they give 12 views and they're boring and uninteresting. All right. And guess why I had you call yesterday? One who's acting interesting. Yeah, which you didn't want to interview when we first started having them on. Making that up. Making that up. You made that up. I'm doing that. Stop. You didn't want to support him. You're being, I'm actually only talking about like five of the many political interviews Ibro's done. He makes it sounds like Laura and I aren't into any of them. I kind of feel, you know what? I got to think back. You might have hated on 808. Oh, AOC when Laura suggested it. No, I missed it. I wasn't there. Yeah. And by the way, you miss Bernie Sanders too. I was looking back at 2016. He wasn't there either. It was WrestleMania weekend. Yeah. Priorities in order. All right. Well, that's what Bernie lost and I've been making money ever since that I wouldn't have had because we got fired had I not been a WrestleMania. So I think I nailed it. If I'm going to be honest with you and really I'm just talking about if Ibro gets put us on the line with that goddamn one from the MTA who doesn't say one interesting thing again. I need to talk to her. She doesn't say shit. She literally. I need to know. I need to know what's happening with the, what is it? I got to agree with Rose for a gun. She says the same thing over and over. We've only, by the way, we've only talked to her twice twice. Twice. You know how many people we haven't talked to twice that we've been like once was enough. Well, I want to know what's going on with congestion. They talk to someone who might actually give you a real answer, not a propagandist who feeds us their lines. It's horseshit. Shouldn't tell us that. You're not going to get a real answer from the MTA either. No, no, we got to find some sort of real person who could give us information. She's the one that wrote the policy. And congestion is back. Okay. But the fact that she's the one that wrote the policy means she's defending the way that they're implementing the policy. She fought for years to get it implemented. She's not going to tell you now bad news is not doing dick. She's not going to tell us that. Of course she's not, but we can discern that from the convo. You pinhead. Oh, God. By the way, this is why you were gay. And by the way, I got another coming up. I got another one coming up that you're going to want to pass on. You know, turning point USA that we make fun of. I'm interested. Of course you're interested in that. No, I'm going to bring on the people organizing to do something on the left. They're called disrupt. That's interesting. Yeah. We'll see. We'll see. We'll see how many views it gets. We'll see if it's big enough for your standards and its infancy. I don't know what you're going to meet. No, because you just want to jump on everything on the bandwagon at the end. What's already popping. I'm there when it starts. Me of all people. I'm the bandwagon guy. Oh, when it comes to politics, you're not ready to take a stand. No, but I'm not ready to get in there. No, I'm moving on. I'm moving on from politics. We're not going to have politics. We're not going to have an election to vote in. So it'll be you interview. interview them all because none of them are going to have an election. Stop saying that. He broke me up. So good luck with it. MTA lady. She is lit. She's lit. Now she's lit because that's Laura's little buddy. He's doing great work. He is doing great work. But you saw Rosenberg just did she pull up to the show. Let's mix it up. I threw in Jumanee too. These are good names. No, she's really creating a name for herself. That's for sure. He's working hard out here. I never skipped the G.O.S.A. A very long one. Voice notes, correct? I do. We'll get to the emails before we do that. Where you got it, I didn't get to this this week. Are you guys familiar with the term tenderness? Did that come across your algorithm? Nope. No, not across my algorithm. So this was the, your algorithm's not black enough. I wanna point that out. All right. But play, there was an old man that was basically doing promo for a barbecue place. And I believe the barbecue place is in California. He's an old black man and he was, you know, people would come by and the meat would fall off the bone and he'd be like, tenderness. And it was an old thing. And blah, blah, blah, blah. Well, this old black man, now everybody's in a tizzy because the owner of the barbecue establishment, they feel is taking advantage of the old black man. Lawyers are coming out the woodwork. They people try to give the black man money. The ownership of the place was like not letting people contact the older black man. Oh my God. Clearly the ownership of the place and the real reason people in a tizzy is some white dude who has now lines or had lines around the block because of the promo that this old black man was giving him. Run the clip, Rassan. People thought the worst part was that Unk wasn't the restaurant owner. It wasn't. The real outrage is that the term tenderness was trademarked by the restaurant owner. What we are witnessing is an old black man being used as a mascot for another man, white man's restaurant. And let's be honest, after seeing all those viral videos of the meat falling off the bone, anybody would wanna try it. It was tenderness that made this restaurant explode online. People come to see him. Keith Lee came to see him. The viral fame, the business, the buzz that came from Unk, not the owner. But when Keith tried to leave a $4,000 tip, security stopped him, saying Unk was too busy. What made people even angrier was the owner's response afterward. If I would've known he was here, I would've probably asked Edie to stop for a few seconds so we could go over there. That's what I would've done. The way the owner speaks and Unk's energy just makes the whole thing feel uncomfortable. And ever since then, the owner has been showing up in every tendernism video. Now, the restaurant is getting canceled with people saying the owner mistreated Unk and he doesn't get paid for all the popularity he's brought to the place. What's your take on all of this? Oh my God, I hate this. I hate this for Unk if that's really what's happening. I hate that you guys also didn't even see tendernism at all. That shows that our algorithms are just, I mean, all over the place. By the way, this story is not on y'all's radar at all. No, I didn't see it. I saw it, but I think I probably saw it because you sent it a few days ago. Yeah, that was it. But that tendernism thing at least been running for the last two, three months. Where's this restaurant at? Yeah, it's been running for the last, at minimum two, three months. Rassan would know, his algorithm's black. Rassan would know. I believe the restaurant is outside LA in California. Why can't Unk get his little tip? Well, $4,000 tip is amazing. He was amazing. And why can't he own the tendernism trademark? Well, but you know, that's big business. But it's not, but the thing is, and it's not even big business. That's the nasty part. Assuming this is all true, of course. We literally just played a clip of AI talking and telling us a story from the internet. So we... Well, there's multiple people talking about this story. But is anyone basing it on like going there and having conversations or is it just basing? So people did joke on it. I just took the best summarized one that wasn't like people making legal allegations. Cause there's ones where there's literal lawyers sending in documents, trying to make cases on Unk's behalf, feeling like basically the, who they're calling Unk, I don't know his real name, is literally, you know, being a mascot who's being held hostage and can't make any decisions. I don't know that to be the case either. Well, let me tell you, when they were both sitting at that table, Unk's face was not happy. It did not look good. It did not look good. It doesn't look good. It doesn't look good. That's not great. And in other news I didn't get to this week, this is father's under Ish Ibro sense. Okay. Bring up. This struck me. This struck me. This was a big deal to me. Okay. This is a big deal to me. I did not know this existed. And I did not know people would be so excited about this level of pain killer being available on the shelves. Have you guys seen that like people prefer Dollar Tree medicine? I mean, I- Because it's stronger. Have you seen this? I did not notice. I did not know this either. No, Dollar Tree medicine. I didn't know that's a thing. Yes. Dollar Tree medicine, apparently the generic brand of Dollar Tree or maybe it's Dollar General. I don't know which one, but it's stronger than your regular medicine. And people go and buy it to basically get knocked out when they have colds or get knocked out when they have, you know, headaches or whatever we have you. And now Nyquil has released this. When I was first introduced to you was through my mom. And you know, her rubbing this on my chest. Right? And then as I got older Vix, you all had Nyquil because it's the nighttime sniffling, sneezing, coffee aching, stuffy head fever. So you can rest medicine, right? You even started coming out with the twin packs, one for the day so people could actually function and one for the night. But I don't know what you drug dealers are doing now. Now Vix, what the hell is painquil? Look at it. It looks like it was milked from the tint of satin and put in a bottle. Look at it. One dose is 1000 milligrams. You're numb. Now I understand that you know what we're going through right now. So maybe you don't want us to feel anything because if the regular Nyquil knocks us out, what is this? Is this pro football in a bottle? You have a nighttime version of painquil. Something's going on over there. And maybe you don't want us to wake up to 2028. Maybe we just need it to be over. And I think that you understand that. But I need you to explain immediately. Painquil is wild, bro. That's mine. That's mine. I'll put that out. That's from your teeth? That's actually from my person. And I will tell you right now, it is delicious. Add a little lost, right? Oh my goodness. Yo, 1000 milligrams, 1000 milligrams. No, I want to try painquil. I want to try painquil PM. No, I don't want to try it. Oh, just a quick little, just see what happens. On the weekend. Yo, I won't hear Maya. Maya will end up in a Crypto Tuesday. She'll be like, I'll be out with painquil. No, bro. No, bro. Painquil? Sounds crazy. That's hilarious. I have never seen that. I will tell you though, Nike, I don't know if you guys have ever had this experience. Probably not because, well, maybe Laura, but Ebro's so health conscious. We, when we've needed Nyquil, like, because one of us is going, like we were both recently sick. We like draw straws for who gets to take the Nyquil. Because both of y'all can't be zoned. We can't both take it. No, literally, we're like, well, we can't both take it. Someone has to be able to hear the baby. But I'm like, come on, let me take the Nyquil tonight. You take one, lay down. Let's watch some movies. No, y'all some fiends, man. Let me watch a movie for 60 seconds. No, y'all some straight fiends, man. No, Nyquil's it, bro. But you're doing the responsible thing when both of you are sick. Both of you guys did not take it. No, why is it so funny? It happened to be in Ricardo where I was like, I'm going to take it, OK? And then he's like, I. Because you know what, when I take this, I'm out. Yes. No, but Ebro, because the real thing is, if you're really going through it and unique, because it's not just that it's not. I've definitely taken Nyquil. No, it does. But like when was the last time you did it? You know, recently? It's been years, by the way. Oh, no, bro. If you're really, if you get hit this season, hopefully you won't. If you really get hit with it, because it has medicine to make you feel better, but it also knocks you out so bad. It's like you hibernate for like 12 hours. So oh, yeah, you're going. You're going. You wake up, you're like, am I back? I think I'm back. Well, but then now they got pain. Pain quill PM is wow. No, I have to know what's going on with the pain quill PM. No. And what freaks me out is like the Z quill. Zeke. What's that? So it's just sleeping medicine. Yeah, you just take it when you can't sleep. I'm like, this doesn't feel right to me. So it doesn't. I'm guessing it doesn't have any of the pain killers. It's just to knock you out. At this point in American society, in American history, I'll miss what it when, when they give us medicine that we could buy, I will Google if it's available in other countries. Or if it's banned or if it's banned. Yo, Zeke, because if it's banned in other countries where they actually care about their citizens, not baby bro, you can't do that because it'll be half the food that you consume also. No, it is a lot of a lot of it is not a lot of the food. Zeke will. There it is. It just says nighttime sleep aid. That's it. Just to really knock you out. Rosenberg. So that is late. Yo, that should not be sold, bro. I know. Is that will, you know, listen, I see some people who get hooked on melatonin and melatonin is like ambient folks. There's people out here. But I am being every night. But the thing is with melatonin, people think it's natural. It's OK. And then you seriously can't sleep without it. Now, listen, yes, the appeal. There are people who get that way. And by the way, there's idiots out there who give it to their kids, bro. I'm like, you know, you're disrupting the way they're going to. They're sleeping patterns. Like they're never going to be able to sleep by themselves. And people are like, it's natural. Like, no, I mean, Laura, idiots is strong because I think a lot of people out there have given their kids a melatonin before. No, but I'm just talking about people who do it every day. You don't want to. You really know that. I've seen it happen. No, I've seen it every day is wild. And I'm sorry, I'll stand on calling you an idiot. That's horrible for a baby. Oh, here we go. Spicy. I'll stand on it. I'll stand on it. Give your child every night because they're not patients to put them down. They're not supposed to do work and create a sleep friendly environment for them. The only way to do it. The only the only reason I'm defending idiots is that they were sold a bill of goods about things like that being natural and that you're not really giving them anything bad. So what's the harm? So talk to your pediatrician. I'm sure your pediatricians could be like, no, don't do that. You can't do that every day. You think so? Here's the thing, guys. Here's the thing, guys. Here's the thing. I'm going to go out on a limb here. I'm going to go out on. Here we go. Go ahead. Hot. Hot take. Let me my air horn ready. Yeah. Hot take. Hot take. If you have to take some sort of aid or agent every single day. To do a natural function. It pick one. Peeing, pooling, sleeping. No, I can't. I can't get with you on the pooping thing. Too many adults who need fiber every day. Right. No, no, no. No, no, no. Listen. Listen, because you're not doing something that you're supposed to be doing. Right. You need probably right. Probably because it's not in your food that you're probably right. So you're taking fiber every day because the meals that you're choosing to eat don't have enough in them. Probably. I'm not probably right. Be based on your diet. You can't be a 100% sure that I bet there are people who've done the full diet changes. They drink the water and they don't get movement. So something. So something's right. That's all I was going to say. Okay. Okay. Is there something wrong? I'm not saying you're wrong for taking. Got it. Okay. Okay. I'm saying there's something really wrong and taking the agent every day. Whatever the thing is, whatever the helpful thing is, means there's a problem that you need to fix so that you don't take the agent. Taking an agent every day and not think and thinking everything is okay is a problem. It happens every day. Yeah, you're not. No, no, no. And by the way, everybody listen, somebody's buying this stuff. Yeah. I always tell people that when they're like, yo, you know, I would never do. I'm like, well, it's popular. Somebody's buying it. So there's clearly a lot of people doing it. Right. So somebody's somebody's taking the painkillers. Somebody's taking the sleep agent. Otherwise this stuff wouldn't be for sale because it's moving off the shelf. My thing. If you're an adult, you make your own choices. But when there's babies involved, like you're in charge, bro, make the right decision. Yeah. No, listen, it's hard. People gamble. Listen, they panic. They panic. They can't get the kid to sleep. You guys want to get the family matters. We already did. I think we already did. I think there's became family matters because that's what the subject is. I got a toddler in the house. Okay. Okay. And? And you know, listen, it's a gift in a curse when you have children that think for themselves. Right. Because on one side, you're like, this is intellect. You're showing intellect. Like you have your own thoughts and you have your. That's great. And you have your own conviction. You know what I'm saying? This is going intellect. There's also the reality that you don't know it. You don't, you literally don't know how to wipe your ass. Quite literally. Literally can't see yourself. So like, you know what's best for you. Learn more at americanexpress.com slash explore dash platinum terms apply. Yeah, I don't know why he keeps turning the music up. It's kind of crazy. Oh, sorry. I thought I just had the moment. But yeah, no, little salacy be having was a constipation. It's okay. That's common. That's how the constipation is real. And you know, in this house where we do eat a lot of fiber, we eat a lot of fruit, we eat a lot of smoothies, we try to do. This child only wants pasta, bread, water. Well, that's good. Good thing she loves water. That's very positive. She pushed it away when you give her fiber. I don't want it. Well, we could get her show, show you the grapes. Oh, she wants to eat bananas all the time. By the way, bananas will help make you constipate. Oh, really? Works back. Yeah. Bananas can be what do they call that? Um, like a binding agent. A binding agent. More agents. Yeah. Yeah. More agents. But yeah, not to think. And so then now she's actually also at a potty training age, which if the constipation is like traumatizing, now she's scared to use the bathroom. It's harder. Yeah. Yeah. It sucks. Did you guys go through that, Laura? Well, Rosenberg has to go through. No, no, yes. But Kenz was different. She had like a fear of toilets. I think I told you guys about she, every time we would go into a, it started with a plane. She was like, why is it flushing by itself? Am I going to get, she thought she was going to get flushed down with it. And I was like, no, you're not going to get flushed down. I promise you. And then she was scared. She would be like, every time we walk into a store, she'd be like, is it automatic? Is it automatic? And sometimes I'd be like, yeah, it is automatic, but that doesn't mean anything. Because she felt that whenever the toilet wanted, it was going to. Yo, Rosenberg, it was a thing. To this day, I still have to be like, you okay? She's like, yeah, mommy, I got it. Well, think about when you're, when you're a little, when you're a little, little kid, basically baby, think about how little your ass is. It literally gets stuck into the toilet. You can hold a little kid literally like this. That means that it could almost get sucked in. I know. But yeah, it was a, it was a thing. But also when she needed to poop, she would hide. She didn't want anybody to see her. Oh, listen, I, you guys know, Ebros, this is going to feed Ebros narrative of us rooting for Ebros downfall. And he has it completely wrong. It's not downfall. It's comeuppance because E, because Ebro talks a lot of ish. And when you have friends who are, you know, he happens to be right most of the time. And when you happen to have a friend who's very smart, but verge is on, how do I say this gently? Verge is on know it all. You do end up rooting for them to have to have the most like typical someone who just doesn't know what they're doing. Clash, like the idea of health, bro, who's on his bike. He's eating a salad while on his bike with two gallons of water connected to his ears. Taking shot, taking shots of, uh, uh, uh, what is that stuff called that they take the grass? Yeah. Really? Grass. Chlorophyll. If Ebro gets stuck with that, if Salasi ends up being one of those like 10 year olds who only will eat pasta, yo, it'll send Ebro to such a place. I'm blaming everybody. Blaming her mom. Oh my God. Blaming her grandmother. I'm blaming everybody. No, he's, no, literally, it's, it's like, Blaming everyone. It's like, loses. He's going to melt down. Now the good thing, here's the good thing. Here's a good thing. Right now, right, she's got a pretty good palette. She's got a really good palette as far as things that she's expanding and wanting to eat. Right. That's good. But I hear that can change. Because mine is pretty good. Absolutely. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Absolutely. Issa went through it where she was like trying everything, loving everything and then all of a sudden, I don't like french fries. Mm-hmm. What? Who the? Yeah. Who are you? You don't like french fries? Yo, I've seen, I've seen that. Yo, can I tell you guys something? I get legitimately mad when there are little kids. If you don't, if you only want to eat carbs and bull ish while it's annoying and I, and I judge the parents, I'm like, oh, you messed up. I don't get mad at the kid. Of course, the kid only wants to eat delicious things. I make, it makes sense. I will get visibly angry when a kid is like, I don't like french fries. I don't like chocolate. I'm like, well, what do you like to? How do you not like a french fry? It's the one thing everybody wants to eat. Everybody likes french fries. Everybody. No one's got a problem with it. It's just a little salty vehicle. So, but so this is where I go. And this is why I don't listen to kids. I don't listen to young rappers. I don't listen to teenagers and I don't listen to toddlers kids. And I tell Issa right now, Issa knows this. My dad does not like toddlers and teenagers. Like let's establish that because you don't know what you're talking about. You don't like french fries right now, but you're just saying that to be a troll. You, what you really want to say is I don't want french fries or I'm tired of french fries because you just finished eating a bunch of them last year. You were eating them every day. And now, I'm not even one of those parents that like makes kids eat. You know where parents are like finish this. Not if you don't want to eat fine, but you might not eat. I'm not getting back up at 10 o'clock because you're hungry. You're going to have to see tomorrow. Right. Right. Because you're not going to starve. The doctor told me when Issa was born, it takes 28 days to starve a kid. So if she's finicky food, you got time. Yeah. Once the doctor told me I got 28 days, don't eat. I'm not arguing with you. All right. Yo, Rosa Park, my dad would make me sit at the table until I finished on my food. I would cry. I would say I want to throw up. I, he would, I, 10 o'clock I'm still there. From seven. That's so, you know, parents were making it up, bro. No idea what to do. Now I, I know we got to get to other stuff. We got to guess and we got to get the Friday freedom. And Maya has just hit, it's hilarious. It's annoying, but it's hilarious. She has hit the going in her box of toys and throwing everything out like a maniac stage. Yeah. Yeah. It's, yo, it is comedy. It's like, it's fun. It's fun. Are you moving? Why? Who are you mad at? Why are you throwing this stuff like something happened? It just goes in. Little car pillow. Now let me, now let me ask you this. Has anybody yet told her not to do it? I have not. Has any, but it's only happened like twice. It's happened like twice. This is brand new. But nobody's been like Maya, don't do that. No, not yet. I just want, I'm, but by the way, don't. Why? Cause she'll do it more because depending on her personality. So you're saying no sell it. Yeah. Like, we like, oh, that's crazy. Look at you or, or nothing. Give nothing. Cause if you give something that she keeps doing it either way. And now we're having a fight. She'll just get bored of it. Cause she's just going to get better. Get through it. It's just something new she discovered. But it is, I try, I got some on camera yesterday. Natalie was like, try Natalie sitting there ducking as I'm trying to film. And you know, this kid's teeth, bro. So you, from the front, it just, you just see a little white here, three on the top. But when I'm changing her that side angle where you could see in her mouth, Bruh, she looks, Ebro, you have, you've heard on the, on the, on, on ESPN, you know, when I do the Freddy Keke character, that is what she looks like right now with her teeth. She looks like I'm pretty. She got these fangs in front. Yeah. What's up? She's playing an Eddie Murphy character like in cosplay. He's like, what's going on? How are we doing today? It's so damn funny, bro. It's a good time, man. All right. Let's hit some Friday freedom. All right. Let's Friday freedom. We don't have no intro. Drop a beat. We need some. At least, at least a beat of some sort. Um, okay. I like this beat. It's just free. It feels free. You know, Friday freedom. That's right. You can say what you want to say. Feel how you want to feel. Ebro, Lord Rosenberg at gmail.com. That's right. There's an email Rosenberg scrolling back here to the 15th of January. 15th of January. All right. Jasmine says, hit Rosenberg with the button. Peter, hit yourself with the button. Damn, why? At a time where you want to be progressive. You gave your opinion on Don Lemon without clearly having taken the time to watch anything. Post CNN. His show is not only informative and in touch with our society, but he acknowledges where things are wrong with either party and in the world. Where we need as many people as we can to simply give facts. You chose to disparage someone doing just that. Trying to be snarky. That's from Jasmine. P.S. Laura, are you ready for your next batch of cookies yet? She also says wishing you all the best. Okay. So let me just respond to Jasmine for about one thing. First of all, I don't watch ABC news or taking. I was, there was a period where I really enjoyed the NBC nightly news, but then Lester Holt left and I haven't been watching. Obviously can't watch CBS news anymore. So no, I'm not sitting here watching any sort of a, any sort of big entity. However, I, I am admitting to you guys, sometimes it's just personal vibe. Like Don Lemmon just isn't my cup of tea. I find him grading and self-important. I'm not saying he's on the wrong side of history. I, I also think the same way that Chris Cuomo learned that his best path was to do the dance and seem like a right centrist. I still think Don Lemmon is doing the dance. He's doing a different dance. He found the place where his audience would be most likely to resonate. I don't think he was ever some sort of super progressive. I think this was a calculated decision of where my brand goes moving forward. I don't think he's a bad guy at all. I find him to be even in the stuff that happened this week. A lot of it feels like it's about Don Lemmon. It's about Don Lemmon. He's very much the face of the story. Well, I'll give you this. I, you know, I've watched him on CNN and I watch him a little bit now. I wouldn't say I've watched him a lot. Are you part of the Lemon Nation? I don't have any Lemon Nation merch. Okay. So, um, I will say his politics seem more progressive now because most things in the media seem so chaotic and like it's there's so much craziness. He seems more progressive just because he's in the same. I think he's in the same place he's always been. I don't think he's more progressive than he ever was. I think he's kind of the, based on what I see, he's the same. It's just that's when it's almost like, um, it's like Jake Tapper who's still on CNN. Yeah. Right. Jake Tapper's always been the same. But as things get crazier, Jake Tapper who's always been, how about somebody who's so centrist and doesn't even have a political identity really? Wolf Blitzer. That's Wolf. Yeah, there you go. Wolf Blitzer even seems progressive right now and he doesn't even have an opinion. No, right. Cause he's not seeming like a crazy right wing lunatic. Right. And so, John Lemon does have an opinion. He does have an stance, but based on what I see, it's some, it's the same. Yeah. Honestly, it's not any sort of huge thing. Like I was given, I was kind of busting Ebro's chops about it. He's just not my favorite. I do end up watching him from time to time. I personally, listen, look in the comments. Many people hate me and find me greeting. So it's fine. I just find on to be a little bit grating. That's the main thing I'd say I feel. Just a personal choice. That's fine. I would say anybody that has an opinion, um, that is their own and can sometimes, because it's their own and they have their own opinion will land in an unpopular place because they're like, this is how I feel about this thing. I don't care what's popular, what's trending, or what your fan base or your supporters are saying. I don't like this. Right. Right. But in my case with Don, it's not about his opinions. I generally agree with most of his opinions. I just think I'm like, like even the Nikki thing, like his response to Nikki, it just wasn't super thoughtful. He's in a really good position to have like thoroughly sunned her and he just kind of read the internet and was like, Oh, aren't you, you're not even American. They should deport you. I was like, that's not the, that's not thoughtful. That's not how you expect more from Don. If you're playing the role that you play, it's you shouldn't have then just went, you know, Twitter comment or attack. It didn't, you know, I just, I thought there was a better play there. It's just not my favorite. But I don't. I don't. Friday, Friday freedom. Laura, you got an email. I do. I do. I do. This is from Jessica. Good morning. I grew up listening to you guys. It became a part of my routine. I listen on YouTube now while working or while I'm driving, I turn on the podcast, appreciate hearing all of your opinions and wanted some insight on something. So recently, my algorithm on TikTok has been feeding me a lot of Black Panther videos, which I'm okay with. I think it's because I watch a lot of protest videos, but I'm curious to know if any of you guys have seen any of this in the videos. They're walking around with rifles in the streets trying to protect people from ice. Are they impersonators? Is this AI? And would this be a good thing if the Black Panthers were on more on the spotlight? Will this start a full on war? History tends to repeat itself. I'm just curious to know if you guys have peeped any of this. I'm chopping at the bit. Go ahead. Sorry. Sorry though. Did you hear that Greenland has a TikTok trend called Fenty Fold? It's where they're making fun of Americans. Oh no, it's where they're making fun of America by being slumped over pretty much acting like they're high on fentanyl. Oh my God. America is such a joke right now, guys. Damn. I haven't seen that trend, but I'm going to look it up. Yeah, I've not seen that trend. I will say this. I saw the Black Panther videos moving around. I saw it too. And it felt, they felt weird. Felt weird to me. And then I saw Amanda Seals yesterday put up a post about it that also hit my algorithm that I thought was interesting where she was saying, does anybody find it weird that there are these Black Panther videos? No one seems to know specifically much about these particular people. And they're all of a sudden being fed to everyone on the algorithm. Basically, it feels like a setup. I definitely thought it was weird. I'm like, they just are out there with open rifles in Philly. That can't be a thing. I just wasn't sure if because now is it AI? Are they impersonators? Actually, we don't know. We don't know. Ebro, you would certainly be the most likely to know something about this. Do you know anything? I know what you guys know. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know what's real. What's fake. I don't know. You know, I don't know these people. Obviously, I know people who are descendants or from the original Black Panthers. Look, there have been people who have taken on the Black Panther aesthetic themes and ideas popping up using that for generations. So it's, I'll tell you this, there are definitely active organizations that call themselves the Black Panthers before these videos started popping up. So for me to say that these people are real because now the algorithm's feeding it. I would actually, my brain actually, while I'm talking through it, goes to the real setup is why the algorithm is feeding. That's what I mean. Not that these people aren't who they say they are. Right. But what are you trying to make everyone feel by showing this? These algorithms that are owned and controlled by entities that, as we know, are interested in monetizing fear, division, and also creating an atmosphere that's potentially a powder cake. Why are you now feeding this stuff at a time when you suppress real activism and real information of genocide and things going on around the world? Right. So you're suppressing actual people trying to do news and cover stuff, but you're making sure everybody sees Black men as Black Panthers with guns on the street. But you're making sure people see that. I go more to that than I go to these people. Well, that's a good place to go. Listen, TikTok people, like we mentioned yesterday, new ownership is here. TikTok's algorithm will be more aggressive. It'll be more deceiving. And you really have to be careful with that app. And we live in a crazy time. They want to make it more pro-maga, pro-Israel. So you'll be surprised that things are going to pop up. And for this e-mailer, you must know the original Black Panther intention was a very inclusive thing. The Black Panthers worked with Zapatistas. The Black Panthers had members who were white. The Black Panthers had members who were Asian. The Black Panthers worked with Asian revolutionaries, feminists, all of that in Northern California. The idea of being pro-Black was not anti other things. Right? It was about inclusion. And so the videos you are seeing, you also got to know. Those individuals in that video, because I've watched them, are saying that they are helping Latinos. And they are helping people who ICE is harassing. And then people were saying, but you're Black Panthers, why do you care about Latino, Hispanics, and Asians and other groups? And I saw the guy who was the guy in the video saying, the Black Panthers have always been about protecting marginalized groups. Yes, the Black community, but all communities, because those are extensions of the Black experience, whether they know it or not. Your existence in this society and the things that you have as a marginalized person in this society, exist because of the Black experience. So you're saying that if that guy is AI, he's on point? Yes, from what I can see so far. Now, I would... Yeah, this lady, this is going to end Friday Freedom Today. The lady can't just write Ebro a message about Black Panthers, and we're going to get back on the track. Come on, we got to keep... Well, and I would suggest for all of us, it's a different time, different levels of surveillance, different levels of tactics being used by the entity that controls society. Make sure you got your stuff in order, B. Facts. Don't just be standing out here all will nilly hollering if you're not really ready. Ready, ready. I'm ready, ready. We should play a voice note. All right, let's go. We're not going to get to much more freedom today. All right. Who do you guys want to hear from on the voice notes? We just hit Leah. She's the first one I have here. Let's go. Here's Leah. Hey, Ebro Lauren Rosenberg, big up on the show. I'm a longtime listener from Connecticut, and you all are truly the soundtrack to my mornings. Yeah. I'm so happy that you have the ELR show now, so we can still spill tea, talk about family, life in politics, and share a laugh. We need your voices more than ever, and my day wouldn't be the same without you. Love in the pod and the YouTube channel, so just know that I am sat for the next phase of the plan. LOL. Also, a special message for Applebro, because you miss 100% of the shots you don't take. Oh, here we go. I'm seriously a huge F1 fan, and your friend, Lewis, doesn't know it yet, but he's my future husband. Oh. So, if you want to slide a girl a padded pass for a race, Oh my God! and ask you and your good friends at Apple, you'll have a continued spot. Love you all, and keep swimming with all that blood in the water. Yo, Leah, we love you. The fact that you just took a shot at literally a top five eligible bachelor on planet Earth, I know. And I know, I know Ebro. By the way, through me. No, no, no. I know Ebro used the word friend. I think he was being a little loose there in terms of, can I set you up with a stranger listener? Don't know that's the play. Hey, yo, Lewis, a lady sent us a voice note to a radio show, not even radio show, YouTube show, I do. We can hook you up with Louie, though. King Louie. Oh, there you go. Not Lewis Hamilton. Not that King Louie, though. I can't, we can't do it. Lewis Hamilton. Listen, Friday Freedom, Rosenberg, you got an email. Um, yeah, let's see. We got to wrap this thing up, guys. I think this is gonna be our last one, Rosenberg. Yeah, we got to get to our interview. All right, all right, all right. All right. There's a bunch here. Here we go. What's up ELR crew? I feel like I pivoted right along with y'all. And I've been a Friday Freedom participant since its inception when it was Freedom Friday. Just want to congratulate y'alls on the new situation. The pivot was clean and glad y'all got some of your drops back, especially the button in Ken's is yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And loving the new ones like blood in the water, doing the dance, etc. Also, I hope you can bring Caswell and Juanido, Shawnee culture over to ELR. If not, maybe make hot rod Rick part of the show. In closing, shout out to my wife, Robin, and one of her good friends, Lashon. All three of us work at the same place and listen slash watch at the same time. Peace and blessings. Yo, look, man, we, we would listen. The way they covered my ASAP Rocky conversation on Apple Music by not saying my name makes me feel like it's not all good. Because honestly, what I would have said is Shawnee, Cas, and Juanido come hang out whenever they want. But it's starting to feel like they might get in trouble. Yeah, I think so. I don't think they're allowed. But yo, can someone explain why though? Like I'm seriously asked. He bro, they don't like us. They're not happy with us. No, no, no, but no, but who is it? The owner's management. Someone I never had a bad relationship with. It's not like I never you. Did you get to an argument? No, no, no, but that's like the CEO. I'm talking about the people we dealt with on a regular. Did we have any bad interactions with them? I mean, I definitely complained about certain things. I called out. Yeah, but it wasn't their fault that there was roaches and the bathrooms were broken. It was they were waiting to get money from the top to make changes. I really think they want. They didn't want that. No, the woman that I would deal with was wonderful. And she even couldn't believe it. I would never say her name because I'm not going to throw her into the bus. But but listen, she would be like, this is crazy. Evidence suggests based on what we're dealing with at this moment that they are someone, someone at the top decided we want this to end bad. We don't want this to be clean. It's ending bad, particularly for Ebro and Rosenberg. We have decided this is going bad. Yeah. And this is where we're going. I mean, it's bad for me too. Wait, why is it particularly me? Yeah. What do you? I thought no. Oh, really? I'm cooked too. Oh, I didn't know you were cooked. I thought you were initially not cooked. Excuse me on the Barbie. Oh, sorry, Lord. I changed. No, you weren't initially. What do you guys talk? Wait, what do you talk about? We don't want to get in. We don't want to get into the justice. We can't talk about what they owe us. We don't want to know. Yeah, we can. They owe us money. They owe us a lot of money and they don't want to pay us. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. And by the way, that's a union contract. Yes, let's be clear. We're dealing with our union. Yes, that's a union deal. They are going against the union. So, Laura, I thought you were good. It's all about unions. No, I'm not. Oh, but I thought me and Ibro, they're claiming for with cause and not you. Oh, yeah. But when our girl was trying to get, be like, OK, so what's up with Laura? Crickets, crickets, crickets. So, oh, and it's not popping. OK, so all of us are getting done completely dirty. So to your point, the point I was trying to make to you guys was to Ibro, someone decided it's bad and probably bad because this is the irony. The one of the riffs was political. And this is the Trump model. When you're big and you have lots of money, you don't pay people. Let them sue you. You're not going to play the game with me. Let's work out a deal. I'll give you a few bucks on the dollar. This is what happens. This is the game they want to play. It's the same thing that I'd be dealing with if I try to get out of the rental apartment that I have right now that I'm not sure I want to be in. They own hundreds of buildings. Break the contract. We'll sue you. What are you going to do? They don't care. This is America, baby. We just got America. They don't want to. They know they can beat us up. Even in that, right? But even in that, right? Even in everything you just explained, and up next we have a conversation with Abdul. Yah Yah Abdul Mateen, the second who is in Disney Plus, Wonder Man, which is coming out. So we're going to get to that. But and we'll wrap this up here. Even in everything you just said, Rosenberg, those are shrewd business tactics. That's not personal. That's just how some people operate. Like they don't think it. Like I've dealt with people like that. To them, that's just business. Like come if you want your money, force me to pay it to you because I'm not going to make it easy for you. Doesn't mean they dislike you. So you're saying that doesn't equate to the fact that then they wouldn't say your name when referencing you on the air. Yeah, like why would you say my name? I think you're giving people too much grace. Yeah, they didn't give us a goodbye. They didn't put up a post about it. Yeah. You know what? And really no one put up a post about us. If we're being honest, yo, when enough left, it was Tribute Fest. When we left, not post it in the building. It was Tribute Fest with us. Let's be clear. Nobody else, nobody else did. Maybe come up. That's it. Well, no, no, no. But but also people were scared to touch us though because of that. No, no, no, no. But our public relationship with the ownership of that establishment was clearly, based on what I would talk about, was clearly not good. So people would be afraid. They don't know. So exactly. So then why are you acting? So then why are you acting brand new about why it's weird? No, but answer your own question. No, no, no. But to people who don't know, what I'm saying is to the management that we dealt with every day. That's not about them. This is coming from whoever made the decision that they were done with your political ranting and the Cuomo thing and me complaining about this and sounding like I had an attitude and not being there. Whatever the things were that set them off, they decided it's enough. And that's the same person who's saying, don't mention them. Don't talk about them. You're right. You're right. It doesn't make sense. It's nasty for no reason. It really didn't have to be that deep. And honestly, you're making it and they're making it hotter. Playing the ASAP Rocky and not saying my name or not is making it scorching. Well, the not paying is going to make it hot too. All of it's going to make it hot. Yo, and also not allowing us to say goodbye made it hot. I preferred it. People was like, yo, this is bad. I was like, nah, that's how I like it. This is great. And then when this whole thing starts moving around too, it's going to make it unnecessarily awkward for the people that are there. You're going to accidentally turn people into scabs because you're breaking union rules. They're about right. You want to be like, you want a big rat outside of the front door? Talk about it. Y'all are breaking. They're so they're going to choose to make this up. But again, this is what people do. And they still think that's fine. It's lots of noise. I'm still not going to pay you the money because they don't care about the brand. That's where that's where we landed in the first place. That's why I was unhappy there in the first place. They don't care if the brand looks nasty. Right. And that's why I was so vocal because you have legends like and trip and you have for team bugs. He bugs is still there. Red alert and they're working in a closet with no windows for the last two years and you're breaking promises. On when you're supposed to open the next studio and you continue to give us dates, say something's going to happen and it never happens. And by the way, and then play. And then hand people have contracts in front of people offering to extend them for three years and then simultaneously say you're firing them with cause. Very interesting. Anyway, it is what it is. But how we do this on a Friday freedom? I got to go. What's Friday freedom? We suppose we have freedom. Good luck, everyone. If the weather hits, be safe. Just be safe out here. And if for our listeners, be safe. Yes, man. Yaya Abdul-Mateen, the second great conversation next on Ebro Laura Rosenberg. Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, Ebro Laura Rosenberg joining the show. We got a quick moment with Yaya Abdul-Mateen, the second. How you doing, sir? I'm fantastic, man. How y'all doing? We're doing great, man. It's a powerful name right there. It's a powerful name. I'll tell you, I'll tell you. I appreciate it. Well, now, so you are about, or Disney Plus is about to launch, and you will be Wonder Man. Which is, I'm assuming as Disney is recalibrating and resorting the Marvel Cinematic Universe, this Wonder Man character, we're going to be seeing a lot. I hope so. I mean, I know we'll be seeing, you know, we got eight hot episodes coming out right now. But really, what I love about it is, you know, to me, we get to see this dude, Simon Williams, and his pursuit of wanting to be an actor, and his pursuit of being a star. And I know there are a lot of people who do know about Wonder Man already, and the Wonder Man that people know about, he's already a star. So right now, we get to see the backstory of how he became, you know, the person that a lot of the fans know. To me, what's the most exciting is, you know, getting the opportunity to say, okay, well, we see what he wants. Now, let's see who he becomes when he gets it. And that's on the other side of what we cover in our show. But, you know, hopefully there's a future for him where we get to see how he handles what he's, you know, the responsibility and the fame that he's been looking for. Now, according to the comic books, and I had to check, I just checked this, Wonder Man was jealous of Tony Stark's. Uh-huh. Right? And ultimately, like, infiltrated the Avengers. And then had, like, a change of heart and, like, risked his life and then joined the Avengers. Now, we're not going to get all of that in these eight episodes. No, we're not. No, we're not going to get that. No, no, no. That's like the whole, that's the whole history. That's a whole history and that's a whole saga. And really, you know, I would tell anybody watching to treat this, treat this differently, coming to this fresh. You don't have to know anything about Marvel, anything about Wonder Man in order to appreciate this. But anything that you do know, I mean, you know, come and check out the show too, but you don't have to do your research and things like that in order to follow along with this is. Um, when you got your, I think your, your masters in fine arts at Yale as an actor, and you've done a lot of different things. Yeah. Yeah. Um, did you ever imagine the amount of superheroes? Was that it? Was that like, because at this point, like, yo, like, did that ever, did that ever even cross your mind that you was going to be like tapped to, I mean, you was an Aquaman, you was in Watchmen. We're doing this now. No, man, I, uh, man, I'm gonna be honest, when I was in school, I wanted to do a Broadway, I wanted to be on Broadway. Yeah. That's, that's, that's what, then before then, you know, about five years before I went to school, I was like, if I could, you know, do a little McDonald's commercial and then, uh, get like a line on a soap opera or something like that. I walk my way up. That's really what the, what the, what the dream looked like. It really looked, looked like just being amongst people acting and getting it how I live, you know what I'm saying? Just kind of getting in there and getting where I fit in. Um, but I went to school and it really turned into something else. Uh, I've been on Broadway, nominated for a Tony. I, I play one best, best revival, uh, and I think 2023, I think. Um, so I really, I really been blessed, but also I'm gonna get back to the superhero thing. You know, Watchman, Aquaman, and now, and Wonder Man, they're, they're all, it's the superhero genre, but we do it, we all do it differently. That's right. Or I've done them all differently. So, uh, uh, what I really like about Wonder Man is that this dude, Simon, he's not even, he's, he's not even concerned with anything to do with superheroes or superpowers or anything like that. He's just a dude or he wants to be seen as a dude who just wants to be an actor. And that's what he's most interested in. So, and that's almost kind of like who you are, who that's part of your story, I think, coming up, right? Yeah, that's a part of a part of my story. Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure. So, um, what was your journey like? Like, like, how long of a, a period was there between the, the studying and things starting to pop off for you? Well, on one way, you know, I worked in city planning, I studied architecture for my undergraduate. I worked in city planning in San Francisco. I got laid off in October, 2010. And then, uh, I decided to go and pursue acting. I had taken some acting classes in, in, uh, undergraduate and, uh, and then I got into Yale after about 14 months, I got into Yale. Now, that was the beginning of my, of my, of my former education and acting. That was what 2012, um, the fall of 2012, 2015 is when I graduated. I graduated in June and 10 days after graduation, I was filming one of my biggest scenes on the show called the get down with bad sermon. I remember the get down. And so, I actually got that job while I was in school and I started traveling from Connecticut from a new haven to New York to do, uh, my rehearsals and, and things like that. And, and I was, I was already shooting by the time I graduated. So that's a pretty crazy story. So you went from being in grad school to over 10 years, Tony nomination, prime time, Emmy, three different, you know, incredible superhero sort of situations, plus things like the get down. I do, do you stop and look at it as like this has been a pretty insane 10 years? Cause most people's an actor's journey could be, everyone's is different. So I'm dropping two years, you know, Timothy Salamé is big at 22. Yeah. You know, someone's grinding at 40. How do you sort of view your journey? Man, I, to be honest, I'm, I'm a, I've always been an ambitious person, always been a bit of an overachiever in my mind. Um, so I'm blessed, right? I'm blessed, but I'm not impressed. That's the, that's really the truth. You know what I'm saying? So I'm really just, I'm really just stacking wood right now, you know what I mean? And just I'm on my way somewhere. You know what I mean? I have my, I have my production company, um, because I want to be able to have the opportunity to, uh, to tell my own stories, to tell the stories that I got in here, to tell the stories that I got in here. And they look different from a lot of the body of work that I've already, you know, put out into the world. I'm from New Orleans. I grew up in West Oakland. The stories that I have, they feel like those places, they feel like the people who come from those places, now they all, they, they, they still feel, um, you know, like they come from a big universe. And I still want to tell stories with the same type of scale and scope of the things that I've been involved in, but with a little bit more soul that, you know, uh, connects back to who I am and who I am and, you know, in the heart. So that's really the next iteration of, you know, what I hope to do and what I hope to present. So everything else that I've done along the way has really just been, uh, building currency, you know what I'm saying? To put me in a position to, to, to, to open those doors. I also saw that you have a TV series on the way based on a man on fire. Could you tell us a little bit about that? Yeah, that's going to be cool. That's going to be cool. I actually, uh, we filmed that down in Mexico city. It's based on the, it's based on the book. Uh, and I mean, truthfully, people won't care about that. They'll just go and, you know, they'll say, nah, it's based on the movie. They'll say, look, Denzel, you know, anybody. Yeah, I want to see, I want to see yaya. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, you know, um, but it's cool, you know, uh, it's, it's, it's set in, uh, Brazil. Um, and, uh, we actually shot it out in, uh, in, uh, Mexico city, but we did shoot over in Brazil for a while too. And what I love about that is it's completely different from Simon Williams. Simon Williams is Simon Williams and, uh, you know, John Creasy don't, they'll never cross paths. And as I look at it, I don't even really recognize, you know, the person. So I'm excited to showcase those two different styles. And that'll be out on Netflix in a little bit. Yeah, yeah, you know, um, do you know Ryan Coogler at all? Have you guys worked together across paths at all? I know him a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know him a little bit. We, uh, we, I think we ran track against each other in, uh, in college. Um, or we were around the same like athletic circle. I mean, not college in a, in a high school. What high schools you go to and open? I went to Mac. I went to the Mac house. Maclimax. Maclimax, yeah. Maclimax, yeah. Maclimax, yeah. All right. I was born, I was actually born in Berkeley, raised in Oakland, Sacramento myself. So is that right? Yeah. I've been in New York since 2002, but yeah, I started in Northern California. Yeah. Went to Berkeley for my, for my undergraduate. Okay. Yeah. So I saw that on the, uh, your cow kid. No, listen, Ebro was just born there. You know, he didn't go, I didn't go to, I didn't go to be clear. I used, I used to just be an amoeba records on telegraph. Yeah. We that, uh, you know, smoking weed at blondies. At blondies. I'm running a blondies, blondies, fast slice. Yeah. Fast slice came later though. Fast slice came, came later, man. I was like, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Now, do you, but you know, a little Everett and Jones barbecue down on university in San Pablo too, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Do you have you, have you gotten to have any satisfaction? I mean, listen, I'm just an observer of someone who enjoys the culture of the Bay, et cetera. Yeah. And, and every time I see Cougler speak on a major platform, like at the Golden Globes, bro, I'm just so tickled. Like my wife is looking at me just giggling and doesn't even get, I'm like, babe, do you understand how real a Bay cat this guy is? Like, for you being a guy from the Bay and an actor, like what kind of satisfaction do you get seeing Cougler just kind of be himself? You know, I know Marshawn too. Oh, you talking about Bay? Oh my God. I know Marshawn a lot better than I know, than I know Ryan. Okay. And I think it's dope, you know, I think it's dope. I mean, to be able to be comfortable in your own skin, to be comfortable, you know, in who you are, to represent the town. Um, I think, I think that's really the ultimate flex, right? That's, that's, that's really the ultimate flex and to be, to still not have to compromise your art, to still bring, you know, integrity to the work and still be who you are. That makes me feel like he's, like he's right at home. You know what I mean? And that's the, that's the best way to work. That's really the best way to work. So it's cool. And then it's, it's, it's, it's, you just hear it and you just hear it and you just kind of smile, you know, yeah. Marshawn, of course, on a, I mean, Marshawn's been doing it for a minute. He's, there's so many moments I love, so many audio clips I play on my sports talk show of Marshawn's, you're saying things. He's been in that way since high school. You gotta protect your chicken. You gotta, you got to protect your mentals, your mentals. And you, now you remember Marshawn from, from high school too? We played basketball against each other in high school. He went to, he went to Oakland Tech. You, you, you check beast mode in high school basketball? Uh, I mean, yeah, he checked me. Marshawn, Marshawn, Marshawn, uh, I ain't gonna throw no, I ain't gonna throw no salt on the game. But yeah, I mean, that was, he'll remember. That was like, that was like a rivalry. Like, Marshawn, Marshawn is football first. He committed a lot of fouls just to be honest. Football first. Yeah. He was, he was a football, he was a football dude playing basketball. They, you know, they all come over, you know, beef up the team after, after, after football season. And, uh, you know, they was, they was, they was tough. Yeah. Ebring, you think he was using all five fouls? He was getting everything. All five fouls. All five fouls. He ran track too though. He ran track. I ran track. So yeah, Marshawn, Marshawn was a all around athlete around there. But always, always a good dude. Always a real good dude. You've done it all, bro. You ran track, you played basketball. Fespian, Berthly, Yale. Yeah. And superhero. Sorry, sorry. Skiddy planning. And a little bit of Skiddy planning. Yeah. I've been around a little bit. I'm, I'm, I'm still trying to figure it all out. So, you know, excuse me if I don't have it all. Hey, no. No, listen, based on your, based on your resume and your life before acting, you was kind of already headed towards superhero. Let's be honest. Yeah. I mean, wonder man is basically what you were doing already. You know what I mean? Like before you even got the role. I'm just trying to figure it out. That's, that's, that's, that's really the truth. You know what I'm saying? I'm, I'm, I'm blessed with a, my second memory is my dad coming into the, into the, into the bathroom and like telling me that I was smart. You know what I'm saying? I'm putting together a puzzle on the floor and he, he, he came home from work and he's telling me that I was smart. You know what I'm saying? He was, he said, what you got in that big old head. And that was his way of telling me that like I got a brain in there and then I was smart. You know what I'm saying? That's my second memory. So my, my, my, How old were you and how old you? Three, maybe, maybe three, maybe three. And I'm the youngest of six. And that's how everybody in my life has always spoken to me. You know what I'm saying? I'm, I'm, I'm truly blessed, but I'm also creation of my family made me man. My family poured into me and they told me they built my confidence. They made sure I felt good about myself. Make sure I thought I was smart, told me that I could do anything that I wanted to do, supported me as I went and tried. You know, I left, I left architecture to go try to be active. There's no stability in that, you know what I'm saying? But there's like, no, do it, do it, do it. Okay. Cool. I'm going to go try. When another layer of your beautiful story too, I was reading that, you know, your mother's Christian, your father's Muslim. So you were raised in a very spiritually dynamic world as well. And me as I grew up in Northern California, I have a Jewish mother, right? And a crit and was raised in a Pentecostal church. And then have Muslim family members and all that. So it's very, it's a very, you know, I don't know if you want to speak on just Northern California and specifically Oakland Bay Area, but our interactions with different cultures and walks of life and, you know, so many different things is very, very unique. Yeah. You know, I didn't, I, I'm going to be honest, I didn't really realize, let me see, growing up, I wouldn't have, I wouldn't have described Oakland as diverse. I'm from the projects in New Orleans. And then we moved to West Oakland. All I know is black. And, you know, we had some like Mexicans and some Cambodians and maybe some Vietnamese. Samoans, Samoans, Pacific Islands. You know what I'm saying? But, you know what I mean? Everybody, everybody was, everybody was black. You know what I'm saying? So, but yes, you, you're absolutely right. Like I was growing up with what I was learning was like love for myself, love for people, love for God, you know, humility and, you know, appreciation for West Oakland, appreciation for, you know, black culture. And it really wasn't until I went to Berkeley that I began to, you know, see, to really see and appreciate diversity. And that's really because that's when I needed it. You know what I'm saying? That's when I, that's when I needed, that's when I felt like, man, where, where, where is all the diversity at? And then that's when I started to appreciate it. So it was, I did grow up in an environment that was rich in diversity, but I didn't even really know it at the time. Right. Because it's the other truth. Well, because it's second nature, right? Like you have so many different and diversity comes in many ways. Yes, there's racial diversities, but then there's just cultural diversity. And then there's, you know, spiritual diversity and all of that. So this man has been a pleasure meeting you, bro. Really awesome. Been a fan of your work for a long time. You know, the next time you decide you want to do a full front to walk through on my TV screen, I need some sort of heads up a warning. You know what I'm saying? Like, because that was, it was crazy, bro. It was crazy. You want me to give you a personal, you give me a personal? Yeah, yeah. Or just like a... You want me to give you a personal? No, I just, no, the whole scene. I was like, hey. Like that warning or is that a heads up? Like which one? Which one? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He wants to know. He wants them advanced notice. Oh my God. So we can depart. Yo, did the world go crazy? Real talk. Did the world go crazy and did you get an extra fee for that? Is there like some sort of extra check that comes for that? No, look, I'm going to tell you this. I really wish that I knew that that was, I didn't know who I was playing when I signed up for that job. So I really wish if I would have known that, I would have asked for more money. I would have known who I was playing and what I had to do because of who I was playing. I would have, I would have tried to, you know, you know, throw something extra on the top. Well, you was giving extra. They can't even leave you. You threw something extra, all right. And apparently, Ibro was there to catch it. Hey, yo. Hey, yo. Hey, yo. Hey, yo. Hey. Yo, y'all, Abdul Mateen, the second look for him at Wonder Man on Disney Plus. We appreciate you. Keep going. And we hope to see you again soon, man. I appreciate y'all. Thanks so much. Thank you, man. Appreciate you. Thank you. Absolutely. Just don't fall in the pod, y'all. With the American Express Platinum card, I can unlock experiences like no other. Since I'm always booking my next trip, I'd love that I can earn points on travel. Plus, I get a Resi benefit, so you know I'm hitting the restaurants everyone's talking about. 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