The Tucker Carlson Show

Tucker and Qatar’s Prime Minister React to Trump’s Move Against Bibi

22 min
Dec 7, 20254 months ago
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Summary

Tucker Carlson interviews Qatar's Prime Minister about accusations that Qatar finances Hamas, Qatar's role as a mediator in Middle East conflicts, and the broader geopolitical implications of Israeli military actions in Gaza and potential future conflicts with Iran.

Insights
  • Qatar hosts Hamas at the explicit request of the US and Israeli governments for diplomatic mediation purposes, not as a terror financing operation, according to the Prime Minister
  • Israel's bombing of Doha during peace negotiations surprised Trump and violated his red lines, suggesting internal disagreements between Israeli leadership and the Trump administration
  • Qatar positions itself as a neutral mediator in global conflicts (Gaza, Ukraine-Russia) and rejects responsibility for rebuilding Gaza, arguing Israel should bear reconstruction costs
  • Double standards exist in international policy: Russia expected to fund Ukraine reconstruction while Israel is not held to the same standard for Gaza
  • Qatar's relationship with the US is transactional and mutually beneficial (arms purchases, investments) rather than aid-dependent, strengthening its diplomatic independence
Trends
Shift toward regional mediation and diplomatic engagement as alternative to military escalation in Middle East conflictsEmerging tension between Trump administration and Netanyahu government over strategic objectives and red lines in Gaza operationsQatar's growing role as neutral intermediary in global geopolitical disputes (Middle East, Ukraine, Iran negotiations)International debate over responsibility and funding for post-conflict reconstruction in Gaza and UkraineDisinformation campaigns targeting Qatar-US relations by actors opposed to their strategic partnershipUncertainty around potential Iran-Israel conflict in 2026 and regional destabilization risksPalestinian displacement concerns and resistance to forced relocation proposals gaining diplomatic attentionTwo-state solution becoming increasingly remote amid Israeli political shift toward far-right positions
Topics
Hamas mediation and diplomatic engagementGaza reconstruction and funding responsibilityIsraeli-Palestinian conflict and two-state solutionQatar's role as neutral mediatorTrump administration Middle East policyIran nuclear negotiations and conflict riskUkraine-Russia peace negotiationsIsraeli bombing of DohaPalestinian displacement and relocationUS-Qatar strategic partnershipMiddle East regional stabilityInternational law and sovereignty violationsDouble standards in reconstruction fundingDisinformation campaigns against QatarFar-right extremism in Israeli politics
People
Sheikh Mohammed
Guest discussing Qatar's diplomatic role, Hamas mediation, and Middle East geopolitics
Tucker Carlson
Interviewer questioning Qatar's Hamas connections and geopolitical strategy
Donald Trump
Referenced as surprised by Israeli bombing of Doha and having red lines against escalation
Benjamin Netanyahu
Discussed as authorizing bombing of Doha and shifting Israeli policy on Palestinian statehood
Ted Cruz
Mentioned as publicly criticizing Qatar for alleged terror financing and Hamas support
Naftali Bennett
Referenced as previous Israeli leader who coordinated with Qatar on aid delivery to Gaza
Yair Lapid
Referenced as previous Israeli leader involved in coordination with Qatar on Gaza aid
Quotes
"If you have no one speaking to those non-state actors how we are going to resolve or to reach to a solution at the end of the day"
Sheikh MohammedEarly in interview
"This is something happened against his will and he doesn't accept it and he made it very clear for everyone that this is a red line that he doesn't want anyone to cross it"
Sheikh MohammedDiscussing Trump's reaction to Doha bombing
"We are not the ones who are going to write the check to rebuild what others destroys"
Sheikh MohammedOn Gaza reconstruction responsibility
"They don't want to leave their country and we have seen these demonstrations like in many occasions when we see the opening between the south and the north of Gaza we see the mass return of the people to their homes"
Sheikh MohammedOn Palestinian displacement resistance
"We cannot remain hostage to the far right and the extremist agenda to like ethnically cleanse the Palestinian or to kick them out of their lands"
Sheikh MohammedOn Israeli political shift
Full Transcript
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Is that true and if not what is the truth about Hamas and Doha? Well thank you, thank you, talker. First of all, the starting of the relationship with Hamas and the communication was started back more than 10 years, 13 years ago at the request of the United States. Even beyond that, like it was 19 years ago when they first participated in the election and then when they moved their office back in 2012 here it was used only for the communication and to facilitate like ceasefire, facilitating AIDS to Gaza. Now unfortunately Qatar has been attacked for having them here but when you look at what's happening within the region, this region when you look at its conflict it has the parties of the conflict sometimes they are state actors, sometimes they are non-state actors. If you have no one speaking to those non-state actors how we are going to resolve or to reach to a solution at the end of the day. And now we have seen that this communication has led to ceasefires, has led to the release of the hostages, has led to elevating the suffering of the people over there and unfortunately there are like politicians who are trying to use this for to score like short-term political gains to fuel their narratives in order to like you know using Qatar to blame another country for what's happening over there or for their wrong policies. All our aid and all our support in financing that went and what they claim that it went to Hamas, went to Gaza, went to the people and was in their very transparent process that United States is fully aware about. Israel is the one facilitating and it's not one government, it was across governments, Netanyahu, Bennett, we have dealt with all the agencies, Lapid was a prime minister at certain point of time, Mossad, Shembet, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, all of them and the defense, all of them they were involved in in in these aids and the delivery of those aids. So today when they are claiming that this financing of this is the financing of Qatar to Hamas it has no basis that it's just you know a way to spread this information about a country that doesn't do anything for them but it's it's doing things that are against their policies. If you just go to Qatar records with in its engagement with the United States for the last 20 years or 30 years Qatar has never went to United States and you know encouraging them to bomb this country or to support this group or to that group. We've been always in our dialogues with the United States about how we de-escalate the region, how we bring peace to the region and this peace cannot happen without an engagement with everyone in the region. Well I'm confused then if you hosted Hamas here and sent money to Gaza both of those things at the request of the US government and the Israeli government, successive Israeli governments, why did Israel bomb your country? Well it's uh I don't know if there is I don't know if you know if any of the actions that's been like or many of the actions that's been taken being justified or rationalized or even like were ethical actions but in a principle even you have a mediator you know the concept of mediation is like a safe place for the conflicted parties to achieve a deal to end wars and to end conflicts and to have the mediator being bombed by one of the parties of the conflict this has been unprecedented and I have said that many times that this is you know it's not only an unethical move it's it's just you know throwing everything like you know against the wall like throwing the international law, throwing the respect of the sovereignty of any other country besides uh you know ethically it's not it's not really acceptable or no one can swallow it. No and the aftermath was also unprecedented so President Trump basically told the Israelis to apologize to you he took your side he took the side of an Arab country against Israel in this specific case I don't think I've ever seen that before I don't think it's ever happened before what was your reaction to that? Well of course uh President Trump has has took uh was very clear from the beginning since the attack actually when uh when he was informed about the attack he assigned one of his advisors to reach out to us and at the same time he called his highness after the attack and he expressed his like his frustration his disappointment from such a thing that's happening by Israel because he knows everything about the process and he knows how helpful we were throughout this process and uh you know this kind of move was shocking for him as as you know a partner in in in these efforts in these endeavors to achieve peace in Gaza and at that time actually when the strike happened it was happening while we were trying to convince Hamas to accept the offer was made by President Trump at that time to convince them to engage to convince them to get you know get a deal before the 20 points being developed when the attack happened. So you're saying that President Trump was surprised by the bombing of Doha by the Israelis of course it was his peace process that was short circuited by their bombing using American money you're saying that the president didn't know that was going to happen he was surprised. He's uh he called us right away the his advisors reached out to us they reached out to us just a couple of minutes before the attack which was like the attack was already happening so uh he's it was very clear demonstration with all the actions that this is something happened against his will and he doesn't accept it and he made it very clear for everyone that this is uh like a red line that he doesn't want anyone to cross it and we highly value that and appreciate it. I'm just pressing you on this because there were news accounts in the subsequent days the next day the day after in Israel saying no the Israeli government did this the prime minister did this with the agreement of Donald Trump this was part of Donald Trump's plan was to bomb Doha bomb his own peace negotiations and you're saying that's not true. Well I think this is one of many efforts to sabotage the relationship between Qatar and the United States and they want us to believe that and I think that you know these efforts are not new to us we have seen a lot of efforts ongoing for years now on you know based on this information and spreading lies and false information about Qatar in order to hurt the relationship between Qatar and the United States which we see it from our perspective is mutually beneficial for both countries because we advocate for something different than what you know our adversaries advocate our adversaries advocating for escalation for bombing for controlling but we advocate for resolving conflict in diplomatic way trying to stabilize the region and that has been Qatar policy since its inception. So you said that your country has sent money to Gaza for humanitarian reasons that's your position basically paying to help the people who are being bombed by Israel now there's the question of who rebuilds Gaza which has of course been completely destroyed and who pays for it and I wonder I don't wonder I just imagine with total certainty that you will be asked to pay for the rebuilding of Gaza why would you do that why would you rebuild a region that's been destroyed by a country that also bombed you? Well look Tucker here you know there is like a very say like an ironic situation when you look at like two conflicts happening at the same time and you are hearing like many about when it comes to the Russia-Ukrainian conflict that Russia should fund all the reconstruction and their assets should be seized to fund all the reconstruction of Ukraine while when you are talking about Gaza and Israel you know flattened this land and you said you say that Israel has the responsibility to rebuild what is destroyed they will tell you no you will have as a region you will have the responsibility to do so and it's really a very ironic double standards when when you look at it from our side as state of Qatar we will continue supporting the Palestinian people we will do whatever to alleviate their suffering but we are not the ones who are going to write the check to rebuild what others destroys that's that's basically our position but also we will not let the Palestinian people at the drive they are not helped or they are not funded I should say from an American perspective it's even more grotesque so you're asked to pay for the destruction and for the rebuilding this is like yeah it's a little much so but you're saying clearly that your country will not pay to rebuild what is real destroyed that's that's our position our position is to with that our our payments will go only to help the Palestinian people if we see that the help is coming to them is insufficient that's that's basically our position what happens to the current residents of Gaza do they stay in Gaza I know there's an effort to find some other country to send them to either in Asia or Sudan or Milwaukee but do they stay in Gaza well I think that you know when it's hurting us when we hear people talking about the people of Gaza as like you know some sort of different people because like they have the right to have the choice where to and they don't want to you know to leave their country and we have seen these demonstrations like in many occasions when we see the opening between the south and the north of Gaza we see the mass return of the people to their homes even if their their homes is flat and gone they just go there and build a tent and this is just showing you how solid are those people how resilience are those people how those people they don't want to leave the land that they belong to and I don't see anyone has the right to deport them or to force them to force them to to go somewhere else it's their country it's their home and they have all the right to stay there and to live there yeah the idea of moving millions of people by force into another country you know it's been discredited I would say historically um what a big picture this is a question that remains unanswered in the United States like what is the plan here exactly um in the Levant what is Israel's plan what is the strategy I understand that's you know defeating Hamas and Hezbollah and you know I understand the short-term goals they're often articulated but what's the what does this look like in 10 years what what is the like the object do you have any idea well I I think you know if we if we look at the situation currently I have mentioned that yesterday the situation currently is not like it's not something that can survive for long and being stable now uh uh the issue that uh if the Israeli forces remains there if the variations remains happening in Gaza this conflict can escalate again and that's what all of us we want to avoid the best plan is to apply what's been uh already agreed on in in in the plan and in the plan that uh President Trump has has launched and the countries in the region has supported to rebuild Gaza for the Gazans people for the Gazans people to remain there but also uh finding a political solution for for the bigger issue because uh if you keep this issue unresolved the Palestinian issue unresolved you know things will escalate again and again we we cannot build the house without building the foundation of that house and the foundation of that house that the Palestinian people get their rights for their states and they have the right to stay in their own land from an outside perspective it seems like the prospect of you know full rights internally or a separate and autonomous in Palestinian state those seem like more remote than ever that seems less likely than ever to happen but maybe i'm reading it wrong well unfortunately uh you know uh peace needs you know a partner also uh for that with the current configuration in Israel and what we are seeing in in the political landscape there in the kinesis and all those resolutions that they are passing against the two-state solution is just uh you know setting us apart from uh uh this path which is unfortunate uh to see that there is no enforcement to push them that this is the only path forward to have a two-state solution uh we cannot you know remain hostage uh uh to the far right and the extremist agenda to like ethnically cleanse the Palestinian or to kick them out of their lands and what we are looking for we are looking for two countries two people living side by side peacefully and being part of the region and that's what the entire region is aspiring for it is widely believed in washington that israel will initiate another war against iran in this coming year 2026 i don't know if that's true do you believe it is true well let's hope not uh i think that it's very important to try to find a way to reactivate the talks on on on the nucleus and to see a track of diplomacy because right now what we are seeing there is an absence of any efforts in in resolving the issue diplomatically and as we have like mentioned many many times that anything would happen to iran it will have its impact on on the entire region on the entire gulf region katar saudi bahrain qwait ua e all the countries will be affected with such a thing and uh i hope not uh but you know there is a lot of uncertainty of what's happening in the region right now we see uh lebanon bombing is continuing while what's supposedly the war's ended we see gaza bombing is still continuing while there is a ceasefire is ongoing so uh it all depends on how can we make sure that israel stops at this level and doesn't escalate further one of the reasons i openly admire you despite much criticism and was grateful to interview you today is because your country acts as a kind of neutral zone around the world not just in your region switzerland no longer being non-aligned unfortunately it's fallen to your country to be the place where people can negotiate conflicts to peace settlement you're doing that in eastern europe with russia ukraine you helped get evin gershkiewicz out of prison in russia i don't know if you've gotten credit for that god bless you for doing that um do you see that conflict as moving toward resolution well i think that there are a lot of uh hope in in the current endeavor that's carried out by the united states to reach to a resolution because i believe that uh you know uh this war has becoming like very disruptive not only for for europe and not only for the ukrainians becoming disruptive for the entire world and it's just you know polarizing the world more and more and this is not in anyone's interest and tool has its consequences right now we see the iran's efforts by by the administration by the u.s administration in order to achieve a deal and the ukrainians are engaging in in in this process and we are trying our best also whenever we are needed to help and to support within that process but i believe it's it is solvable it can be it can be achieved it's not something impossible so last question um i've been personally not to make it about me but i have been criticized as being a tool of katar and i just want to say what you already know which is i never taken anything from your country and and and don't plan to i am however tomorrow buying a place in katar both because i am pay a high check in do in doha yeah and i'm doing that because i like the city i think it's beautiful uh but also to make the statement that i'm an american and a free man and i'll be wherever i want to be which i think is important but that does kind of leave us in a place where i have not taken any money from katar i have instead given money to katar and i wonder if you feel that that means i've bought you and you will now spew my propaganda thank you just ask me whatever you want me to do for you i will do it but uh uh look tucker uh unfortunately as i told you that uh there are a lot of players uh putting a lot of efforts to sabotage the relationship between katar and the united states and to try to demonize uh anyone who will come to this country our efforts when we are lobbying or uh doing you know our outreach in the united states is to make sure that this relationship is safeguarded and the relationship for us is mutually beneficial uh we are not getting aid from united states it's uh we are instead we are buying from united states we are partnering with them we are investing in united states united states investing in katar and this relationship has been always a two ways relationship and we pay all these amounts for lobbying only to protect and to safeguard this relationship if we are not like uh uh being attacked and under a lot of like disinformation campaign that's been unfortunately funded by other players who doesn't want to see a us katar relationship uh flourish we wouldn't we would spend this money for better things you know uh to do with with the relationship shake my hand thank you so much for taking the time to do this i appreciate it