Nightcap

Nightcap Hour 2: Rory McIlroy STARTING To CRACK at the Masters + Eagles TRADE for Dontayvion Wicks + Play OR Fade + O’Shea Jackson Jr. DEFENDS his DAD

64 min
Apr 12, 20266 days ago
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Summary

The Nightcap hosts discuss Rory McIlroy's Masters collapse, the Philadelphia Eagles trading for receiver Dontayvion Wicks amid AJ Brown uncertainty, Aaron Rodgers' ongoing decision about returning to the Pittsburgh Steelers, and O'Shea Jackson Jr. defending his father Ice Cube's film legacy.

Insights
  • Elite quarterback uncertainty creates organizational paralysis: teams delay succession planning when star QBs hold decision power, leaving franchises vulnerable
  • Receiver market volatility reflects broader NFL trend of star players seeking better situations rather than accepting suboptimal offensive systems
  • High draft capital investment in young QBs without proper development infrastructure (O-line, coaching, system fit) leads to premature failure and wasted resources
  • Organizational decision-making at the highest levels is insulated from external media pressure; owners and GMs operate independently regardless of public narrative
  • Golf's accessibility barrier (cost, learning curve, physical demands) limits participation despite celebrity adoption trends
Trends
NFL quarterback decision delays extending into draft season, forcing teams into reactive rather than proactive planningStar receiver dissatisfaction with offensive coordination despite team success, signaling systemic issues beyond individual performanceRookie QB salary inflation preventing development-focused bench time, accelerating failure rates for high picksFranchise succession planning failures when organizations prioritize incumbent star retention over long-term competitive sustainabilityCelebrity golf adoption among athletes and entertainers despite sport's high barriers to entryMedia-driven narratives having minimal impact on billion-dollar franchise decision-making processesDefensive line recruitment focus in NFL draft as more accessible entry point for international/non-traditional football backgrounds
Companies
Green Bay Packers
Discussed as example of successful QB succession planning with Brett Favre to Aaron Rodgers to Jordan Love transition
Pittsburgh Steelers
Primary focus on Aaron Rodgers' pending decision and franchise's quarterback succession planning challenges
Philadelphia Eagles
Analyzed for trading Dontayvion Wicks acquisition and AJ Brown contract uncertainty affecting receiver depth
Las Vegas Raiders
Mentioned as Kirk Cousins' free agency destination for 2024 season
New York Jets
Referenced as team that experienced Aaron Rodgers' decision-making delays in previous season
LSU Tigers
Discussed in context of Lane Kiffin's coaching move and recruiting implications for college football
Ole Miss Rebels
Analyzed for Pete Golding's hiring and upcoming matchup against Lane Kiffin's LSU team
People
Rory McIlroy
Masters Tournament performance analyzed; discussed potential for repeating championship win
Aaron Rodgers
Central discussion topic regarding retirement decision and franchise uncertainty management
AJ Brown
Discussed contract frustration and potential trade scenarios amid offensive coordination issues
Dontayvion Wicks
Traded from Green Bay Packers to Eagles; analyzed as receiver depth addition
O'Shea Jackson Jr.
Defended father Ice Cube's film legacy on social media against criticism
Ice Cube
Film career and legacy discussed through son's defense of post-1990s filmography
Scotty Scheffler
Masters leaderboard position analyzed; discussed as competitive threat to McIlroy
Cameron Young
Shares 54-hole lead with Rory McIlroy at Masters Tournament
Lane Kiffin
Discussed coaching move from Ole Miss to LSU and upcoming matchup implications
Pete Golding
New Ole Miss head coach replacing Lane Kiffin; analyzed for Week 2 matchup against LSU
Gianni Infantino
Host mentioned sitting next to him and requesting podcast appearance at FIFA World Cup event
Brett Favre
Referenced as example of QB succession planning and decision-making delays
Jordan Love
Discussed as successful QB succession outcome after Favre and Rodgers eras
Quotes
"He's a temporary fix for the Pittsburgh Steelers. And if somebody sees him as anything other than that, they're sadly mistaken."
Host discussing Aaron RodgersMid-episode
"You got to have, you got to have, start having serious discussions about the future. There's really nothing to talk about."
Host on quarterback succession planningMid-episode
"The right is on the wall. I mean, it's been that way. It's been that way."
Host on AJ Brown situationMid-episode
"Irreconcilable differences and the split is amicable. I don't know. Them boys good though, man."
Host on Eagles-Brown separationMid-episode
"You can get everything you asked for and it's still not enough."
Host discussing player satisfactionMid-episode
Full Transcript
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And the narrative shifted to the talk of him pulling a secretary or Tiger Woods type. You know, hey. But today Roy, six stroke advantage. The largest 36-hole in Masters history was gone by the time he bogeyed the 12th hole. McElroy now shares the 54-hole lead with Cameron Young. But the 90s Masters is wide open with 11 players or within five stroke. Rory will become the fourth player to repeat. Jack did it. 65-66. Nick's Fowle did it. 89-90. Tiger did it. 0102. And Rory has an opportunity to do it now. So this is the Masters, right? Yeah. Was this the what year was that when? Um, was 90 the year that a Nick Fowle tracked down Greg Norman? Greg Norman had a six-hole, had a six-hole, six shot lead. And Fowle tracked him down, sir, Nick. Now, um, I think that's, I think that might have been 90. It might have been 90. They, I mean, they still got rounds to play tomorrow too. Yeah. One round left tomorrow, the final round is tomorrow. Okay. So the cover, the green jacket. How far back is Scotty Sheffler? I think Scotty might be four or five back. Okay. That ain't bad. But you got to be careful now, Scotty. You coming get you, huh? Hell yeah. Come on, Cam. Come on, Cam, you're on the way now. But like I said, hey, I think the thing is is that the goaler early put pressure on them because they see when, by the time you, by the time they get there, they're going to see them. Look at that leaderboard. I'm putting pressure on you. I'll put that pressure on. That's what I'm going to do. I'm going to let you see, hey, and don't let me, don't let me start five back. And here I am. I'm on 15 and I'm 12, 13 under. Well, I'm in the clubhouse and I'm even or one stroke above you. I'm in the clubhouse. I'm sitting pretty. I'm just throwing my golf ball up in there. I ain't even, I'm not worried about anything. Do you even think that you even think they feel pressure at that level? Hell yeah. At that pressure? I mean, I mean, I mean, at that level though. I'm in the clubhouse with the lead. Yes, absolutely. And then they come off that thing. Amen, corner. Hey, you thought they felt pressure today when you saw them score them scores. They climbing. Yeah. Four. Hey, somebody going to come get hooked down like a track me. I don't know who I don't know who is going to be. Cameron Young was minus seven. Rory was plus everybody. Everybody went low today except Rory. Cameron Young minus seven. Sam Burns minus four. Shane Lierry minus four. Jason Day minus four. Justin Rose minus three. Scotty Sheffler minus seven. Lee minus three. Patrick Cannelly minus six. Henley minus six. Everybody shot, everybody shot. Even par or below par except Rory. When the last time you been on the golf course, huh? When I beat you and Joey in New York. No, I'm talking about like playing like, you know, playing 90. But I don't play no golf, man. Huh? I ain't play no golf. I'm trying to say maybe like 2000, 2002, 2003. The NFL used to have a golf put on the golf thing. In some of the level like Samu Jackson and Matthew McConaughey and JT Justin Timberlake. A lot of celebs would come and play. They don't do it anymore. As a matter of fact, if I'm not mistaken, it used to be in San Diego. Maybe at Riviera. I think. Riviera. So who you got winning tomorrow? Huh? Who you got winning tomorrow? Me? Scotty's four back, huh? Yeah. I mean, Scotty Sheffler only what I know. You know, I've been on the green with Scotty a few times. I don't, I don't, I can't get in the golf. I don't know what it is, man. It's a slow game. I mean, they say you play it, you get bit by it. You see LeBron started playing it. He got bit by it. My brother never played around in golf and then he retired needs addicted to it. Yeah. You see, and I think the thing is just like anything. Once you get good at it, you just want to play and try to get better. Right. That's one sport. If you didn't really start when you was young, man, it's difficult. You can get good and from what I've. You ain't good like they are though. Now, man, they can hit shot. They can they can fade it. They can draw it. Man, they hitting them stingers. Man, they hit man. Come on. The only thing I like about golf is the fact that you can smoke your cigars on the course. Yeah. You can smoke on a goddamn course, but I just, I just, I can't do it. It's expensive. But you see how much clubs are. Yeah. Man, I'm good. I pass. Yeah. I mean, I got some clubs. T.D. brought us some golfing clubs when he rushed for 2000. He brought us some golfing clubs. He's for 2000. The winning winning MVP got a name, got a name on the bag and everything. That nice club. You want to be using it? No, they ain't been out there. They ain't been at that bag and they ain't been at my closet. I can't do it. They ain't been out there. No, hell no. Yeah. I think I would have to be extremely old with no ability to run or be active, you know, doing the things I like to do now before I even get into golf. Yeah. I take, I take lessons then. I got too much muscle. It's hard to lift weights. I mean, you do, you doing band work. Right. Because you can't have nothing up here. Right. Because all I'm gonna do is get in the way. I mean, I can't play then because that's why, that's why who are really good quarterbacks. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Basketball players, hockey players, people that don't have pictures, they don't have anything going on up here. Look at the show. Look at quarterback shoulders. They got no muscle tone. Right. We'll be too stiff, huh? Yes. Yes. Yes. Got to give it up. So what you want to do? You want a six pack or you want to be good at golf? All right, six pack. Okay. See, there you go. Six pack. One of the remaining unanswered questions for the NFL this. Got to go, hon. Thanks for introducing me to Canva. Love ya. Top season is whether Aaron Rodgers will be back with the Steelers this fall. The Steelers have indicated that they expect an answer before the draft gets under way on April 23rd. And it doesn't sound like he shared any hints with one of the team's top offensive players. Jaylen Warren said he's not making any bets about whether Rodgers will play or retire at this point. You know, I'm not really expecting anything. Whatever happens, happens. I'm rocking with whoever that quarterback at the quarterback position. But if he comes back, great. If he doesn't, then we'll miss it. Hey, I know Aaron Rodgers is loving this. Any quarterback is loving this. We got where you can have a team by the balls being for 42. Wait, how old is he? Yeah, 42. Yeah, 42. That sounds about right, don't you? Yeah, you know, and this lets people know those in the chat that are watching, or those that are fans of the NFL game, on how important the quarterback position is, because they understand how valuable Aaron Rodgers is. Even though he's not the same Aaron Rodgers of old. Yes. The other options that you do have aren't the answer. They don't have no options. I mean, that's it. Well, Will Howard is there. I'm not sure Will Howard is the answer for the foreseeable future. But I mean, Aaron Rodgers is Aaron Rodgers, even though he's not the same one. He still gives you your best chance to win. I mean, he just does. That's why he can pull the shenanigans that he does. And you know what? I'll let y'all know when I'm ready to come back. Knowing good will, you know you coming back. Why even play this game? But even if he's not, let them have an opportunity to go get somebody in free agency. Ain't nobody to get. There was somebody. Maybe they want to make a trade for somebody, Ocho. No. Because they're making a trade for somebody. They're making a trade for somebody that was originally. What about Kirk Cousins? Kirk Cousins was available. Where did Kirk go? Kirk signed somebody. To Vegas. To Las Vegas. Oh, yeah. That's right. That's right. That's right. Right. He going to mentor Mendoza. Maybe a man. Hey, he could have meant he could have mentored Will Howard. Listen, I don't know why Aaron Rodgers playing these games, but it is what it is. He did it last year. He's doing it again this year. And he'll probably do it again next year as well. If the Steelers don't find, you know, his successor, he's going to keep doing it. You know, the one team that he didn't do it with? Green Bay. The Jets. The Jets and I, we good. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. AG1 playing that. No. They've seen this for far too long. Even Green Bay. Green Bay said, but he should have known. He saw it play out with Rodgers. I mean, with Brett Favre. Right. They got tired of playing Brett Favre's game. You thought because you won, he was a three-time league MVP, won a Super Bowl. You thought they weren't going to get tired of your shenanigans? Oh, yeah. It gets tired. Just like they drafted you to replace him. Why do you think they drafted Jordan Love? They sit on the bench for the next 10 years? Yeah, you're right. But, but listen, this is, this is the hard part. This is the hard part for the Steelers. When Ben Rothersburg was there, they didn't draft for Jordan Love. They didn't draft even as close because they didn't want to piss Ben off. Now you're in quarterback purgatory. Look at somebody else. We have to rely on a 42 year old, 43 year old quarterback to let you know when he wants to come back and let you know if he's going to come back. And if he does come back, what you got it for another year? And all you did is kick, all you did was kick the can down the road. And you're going to be right back to the issue. You still haven't addressed the issue, which is finding your long-term quarterback for the future. Yeah. All you did was delay it. It's like, Hey, Hey, man, look here, this tire. Well, we can patch it. Don't even patch tires anymore. But hey, they put a little donut on. He did a little donut. The donut tied the little donut tie. They say drive at a slow rate of speed and you probably got 50, 60 miles of distance in it. And then you see people driving around two, three weeks on that time. And then it was, and when it put them down outside the road, I don't know what happened. Well, what happened was this was a temporary fix. No matter how great Aaron Rodgers was, and he was great. He was historically great. Historically, yeah. He is a temporary fix for the Pittsburgh Steelers. And if somebody sees him as anything other than that, they're sadly mistaken. If the Steelers, but I don't know why and because I don't know why teams are so afraid. You got to, I mean, especially when the quarterback gets to like year 15, oh, Joe, come on now, man, we got to have, we got to have, you got to have, start having serious discussions about the future. There's really nothing to talk about. There's no discussion to be had. I'm talking about, I'm talking about as an organization. We got to have a serious discussion. Hey, discussing it with you. The hell? What decision your grandparents made that involved you? Not one. Not one. This is what, hey, here's a list of what we think about by what you in on this. Oh, here's what we think about putting in the house. Right. Role of don't make no, my grandfather always say, boy, don't brush it with a child. You tell the child what to do. Do. So at a situation like that, I'm not informing Aaron Rodgers. I look, I would say, look, now we'll say this. So we don't get them all blindsided because you know, the most sensitive, the most sensitive players on a football field. It's the quarterback. Always. Okay. We're in agreement. Always. We're looking to draft the quarterback. High high is to determine whether or not somebody falls. But I say within the first three rounds, we're going to take a quarterback. Boom. That's it. That's it. You're going to be going to piss him off. That's all right. He'd be okay. He's still going to cast him chicks. Because guess what? You don't imagine if Green Bay didn't have a Jordan love, how pissed off they would be. Look at the teams that waited. Look at what Miami did because they didn't have a succession plan with Danny. Yeah. And they didn't have a succession plan. And so everybody doesn't have a Green Bay situation. When you go Brad Farve, Aaron Rodgers, Jordan Love. That's luck. But that's because the quarterback put them in a situation they had no choice. They didn't have a choice. Oh, Joe, Brad kept jogging them around. Aaron Rodgers, well, I'm thinking about retiring. I don't know. You know, I just want to be in a quiet, dark room. And I just, you know. So the team didn't have a choice. They got tired of that. Yes. And that's the only position, depending on who you are, we could play them damn games like that. Yeah. You ain't playing that game in no other position. They get you. They get you a fighter there. I don't care how great you are. Other than that guy? Yeah. That position. Not a said guy. That guy. Because first of all, you're going to be that guy to play those type of games. No average guy ain't playing those type of games. No. But to be that guy, and you know, you have the leeway, you are MVP or you won MVP. So you're that level of quarterback. You get a lot of leeway. A lot of leeway that other players and other positions don't get. No. But you, but I understood that. Who didn't know that? Like I didn't take advantage of it. No. I didn't take advantage of it. Quarterbacks have a privilege and the star players have a privilege and I'm like you. I didn't take advantage of it. No. That's the whole point of being a leader is not taking advantage of the privilege that you've been given. Oh Aaron, well, you know, you come to back man, because if he decides not to come back, oh my goodness. Boy, they're going to be in a heap of trouble over there. Yeah, they're going to be in a heap of trouble, but it's their own fault. Because when they could have, did something about this, they saw Ben wasn't the same guy. He had taken too much punishment and he was starting to slow down. You saw it right before your eyes, but they're not to tick him off. Okay, he's still happy with it. He didn't really replace me. Now look at you. Dang. Pending all your hopes on a 42 year old that probably by this is his last year. Yeah. Or you might try to keep hitting them one for ones because you have to think about it. No, I'm moving on. I'm moving on after this year. I've got to find me a long term fix. Oh Joe, where's the long term fix? If I got to go into the draft and draft one. I'm not going to go into the draft. I'm not going to go into the draft. I'm not going to go into the draft and draft one. Man. I got me. I feel you. I feel you. So what? Just keep going. So just keep going. These one year deals with Aaron Rodgers and not get the future. And then when he when he decides to retire, what about where am I? Hey, you, you, you, you find that successor now. You go into the draft. You can't. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, but ain't nothing. Hey. Franchise quarterback. You seen anything like that? Look, just because you don't think a guy right now looks like that. Oh, Joe, I got to try. Right. You seen Aaron Rodgers at Cal? Yes. He looked like that. You seen at my home at Texas Tech. He looked like that. Let me ask you a question. If they brought Aaron Rodgers in right away immediately and played him, how do you think he looking? Nah, it's a good thing he sat behind Brett. Exactly. And my homeboy, my homeboy was sometimes it's great to come in and get a bird's eye view and see how people do think how, how, how that position is played. Right. How you're supposed to play the position. And who knows? Maybe Aaron Rodgers is still that guy, but I think he benefited from having an opportunity to sit behind Brett for three years and learn. I think my homeboy had an opportunity to sit behind Alex Smith for a year and learn. Some guys, hey, they get to sit. Carson got to sit. Yeah, but they making too much money now. They not letting somebody sit. Yeah. The rookies are making too much money, especially if you drive from high, anything pick one through five is not sitting. We paying you what, 30? 35? Probably 40 billion to high. You're probably 40, 40, 40 plus million dollars be guaranteed this year. They throwing your ass out there to the sharks. You better figure it out because I'm paying you money. Not sit down and sit behind a veteran quarterback. Absolutely not. Yeah. You're right. You're right. And it's ruining them because you saw they did Anthony Richardson. Oh, yeah. He was the top five pick. You said he was a project and instead of developing in that project, building that project up with a strong foundation, you threw him out there. Yeah. There's no patience. Don't they want instant gratification. These owners and GMs want instant gratification and instant success right away, especially if we pick you high. You the person supposed to change our franchise. That's why we went and got you. You are our answer. You are our future. You are our 10 year future. We don't have to worry about any position we're supposed to build around you. That's basically what it means. It does, but have you set me up for success? What do you look like from an offensive line standpoint? What do my receivers look like from a receiver standpoint? What is the system or the coaches? Have you set me up for success with the structure in which I'm going to be in most of the time? No. Right. No. They just think guys are supposed to come in. Everybody in Angel Reed. Everybody doesn't. Everybody doesn't because in order to do some things, you have to have solid footing. Kyle Shannon has. How many quarterbacks you think you made that you give up all those draft picks for the number three pick in the draft and he gone after a year? Oh, Tray Lance. So you got to have strong footing in order to do that. I mean, think about it. You got Alex Smith wins the playoff game. And then you're like, you know what? Yeah. We take it a quarter week. I mean, Alex Smith is playing well, but Andy just felt this office could be so much more dynamic if I have a stronger arm quarterback. And those are the decisions that you have to make. See, it's not that it's a lot of times it's the decision, those decisions that really define GM and coaches and things like that. It's the tough decision. You win an old show. You win an old show. You like, man, we win it. We win 10 left games a year. But there's something that's deep inside of you said we can be so much more. And seven seven AFC championship games later. Five Super Bowl appearances later. Three wins later. It's hard to argue. It's hard to argue. And so we'll see what they do. But I think they have to. I think I think the steal is going to have to get a quarterback. Now maybe maybe you're right. Maybe maybe they believe in Will Howard, but they believe in Cody Pickett and they believe in Mason Rudolph. Okay, with AJ Brown future uncertain, the Philadelphia Eagles have added to the receiving core head of the 2026 draft. Oh, Joe, the Eagles are sitting Green Bay Packers a 2026. Fifth round pick and a 2027 sixth round pick and exchange for Don Terry of a Dante Wicks, a Wicks who's signing who's going into the final year of his rookie contract will reportedly sign the one year contract extension for $12.5 million Wicks 25 with a fifth round draft picking 2023 draft during his three season with the Green Bay Packers. Wicks has caught 108 passes on 180 targets, 1328 yards, 11 touchdowns and averages 12.3 yards per catch. I mean, the right is on the wall. Can we see it now? Huh? Maybe it's in Howard Glifitz. The right is on the wall. I mean, it's been that way. It's been that way. And I said it last year. I said it during the season. I said it in the off season. Anytime we do talk about it, you know, the Eagles are planning to make a move. And there's a certain situation that's going on and people are talking about integrity and talking about ethics and talking about this person. I mean, blah, blah, blah. And listen, nobody moves the needle or make decisions outside of the GM and the owner. They are not influenced by anybody else. You and Ocho talking about it. You and this person talking about it. Yes, the media. You think the owners give it down, but the media say they don't care. They don't care what me or Ocho or what anybody say. They're going to do what they're going to do. Always. I mean, we talk about franchises. We talk about billion dollar entities. You really think anyone outside of that has influence on their decision making? Like, come on, let's be serious people. I'll let the players that's playing for him influence what the hell they doing. How they going to let somebody outside the building that's not even inside the building influence it. Come on, man. But outside of that, I mean, it's been enough. I think it's time to move on. I think AJ doesn't want to be there. We've seen enough of that. He was frustrated this season. You hear the role. He was frustrated even after he won the Super Bowl and he was frustrated. So he's even frustrated, more frustrated now because guess what? He see what those guys doing? He say, change. Don't miss a beat. He say, JSC and don't come on now. Look at Puka. Man, the Monte Adams come over there to a whole new team. Yeah. And lead the league in touchdown passes. Somehow all these great guys, these coordinators can find ways and their quarterback can find ways. I call a play and they can get me the ball. Somehow here we still haven't found a way to consistently get me the ball. Now I ain't putting it on nobody. I'm not saying it's the coordinator. I'm not saying it's quarterback, but all I do know is that I play a dependent position and I'm dependent on my quarterback and my coordinator, putting me in the situation and the other guy throwing me the ball. And I be a damn if we can't do that consistently. Yeah. I mean, I understand he was, I mean, frustrated, frustrated. Yeah, for sure. Before that, he was reading the book to keep himself calm, to get himself relaxed. So this year, I mean, same thing again. So that's two years in a row. You think he's going to sit around for a third year of the same? Right. Absolutely not. It got so bad. Absolutely not. The owner had a conversation with it. And people like to say that, that got out. Had it not gotten out, how would you have known that Jeffrey Lurie and AJ had a conversation? Somebody always leaking it, huh? Of course. But it had gotten to the point that Mr. Lurie didn't, it was, didn't felt some type of way about it. Probably said, you know what, AJ, let's try to make the both the best of this situation, what we have currently. I understand your frustrations. How is it explained to me, X, Y and Z? He don't know the place, but anyway, how is it explained to me? Yeah. Let's try to make the most of this season. And then after the year, we'll try to make a decision that works both, that works best for both of us. Yeah. I think this is the second move I think they've made at the receiving position, if I'm not mistaken. Even with AJ Brown not there, I think they'll be able to make up for some of the production, maybe not all of it. But the Eagles will still be a dominant team. They still, and the NFC eats, wait, no, that is NFC eats, ain't it? NFC eats. Yeah, that was Washington and the Eagles. The Eagles, yeah, they still, they still gonna make their heads, they still gonna do what they want to do. But I mean, AJ Brown, he just needs a new, a change of scenery. I said long ago, before although you know what was going on, I said it would be the Patriots. I said it would be very, because of the situation in the relationship that they had when he was in Tennessee. So they just made the most sense, him going to the Winging. So, right, we'll see what happens June 1st or the June 20th. June 1st. Yeah, June 1st. That way you can spread it out over two years. Yes. And the cap here is not as significant as it is. Right. Yeah. So I look, I just think the thing is, we've been talking about it. I just think everybody, everybody just want to just move on, want to fresh start. It's okay. There are irreconcilable differences and we choose the part on amicable terms. Yeah. Not a bad thing. Irreconcilable differences and, and the split is amicable. I don't know. Them boys good though, man. Them boys good. I ain't happy. Have you seen the situation? Oh, Charles, tell you, how have we seen men and women in a situation? They got everything, fly private and you got diamonds and you get cars, you get XYZ and I'm just not happy. Yeah, it happens. All that at the end of the day. What about my happiness? I'm, I mean, hey, no crying from the yacht, but hey, some people. Mm hmm. It happens. You can get everything you get everything you asked for and it's still not enough. Not enough. Fly, he goes fly. I don't know the rest of the song, but I love that. I just, I just, I just won't look. I just hope AJ gets somewhere he could be, the given opportunity to play like he thinks he can play and then go, go from there. Because right now he's not happy. No. And I don't think, I don't think he's the best he can be. It's, and it's hard to be when you don't know. I mean, you go from one game you might catch nine and next ball you might get three balls thrown at you and catch one. Mm hmm. It's hard to play like that. It's time to play a favor presented by prize picks. Miles Bridges. Excuse me. The next play the Charlotte, the Hornets tomorrow, Miles Bridges will have 0.53 points. So he'll make one. That means he'll make or he'll attempt. I'm going more. He gonna make one. Then he gonna make one because they shoot. They shoot 50 a game. So Melo gonna get his. Canypals gonna get his. The guy that you like from Alabama gonna get his. Miles Bridges gonna get one. All right. Indiana, Detroit. So Thompson. Four and a half rebounds. Hey, four and a half, four and a half sounds so goddamn easy. It sound easy. I'm not gonna get one. that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that I don't know what I don't know what eight now I'm gonna get. Hey, well, hell, you know what eight and you go get. He ain't got no choice but to but insert himself. Insert himself into what? Uh, everybody hurt. Crash the glass. You gonna cause me to crash out tomorrow. You gonna cause me to crash out tomorrow. That's what he gonna cause me to do. That's the only crash you're gonna have. Should I go more or less than seven? How many rebounds do you have last game against Phoenix? I'm gonna have to go more. I might need to give him, you know, give him a jump again. Oh Lord have mercy. It may have played 20 minutes getting it. I think he played like 24 minutes. Yeah, we going low. We going less. You going, you going less? Yeah, man. Yeah, we going less on show. Last two games, 31 minutes, five rebounds both games. LeBron James points rebounds and assists more than 43. 43? Oh, you mean all together? All together, yes. Yeah. I don't know. Did you see him? Did you see him? Have you seen him since looking at ARP and out? Yeah. Average in 20, average in 28, 12 and 8. 28 points, 12 assists, 8 rebounds. I mean, it's expected. I mean, it's LeBron. Oh, Joe, you realize he 41 right? Yeah, yeah, he 41. I mean, but it's still LeBron. And father time, father time hasn't caught up yet. Now we, we have been posing him right now to go. But plus you got to realize he has the ball in his hand. It's left or right. Oh, is it? Huh? Is it a left off the husband guy got the ball in his left arm and he do it like this. Oh, my bad. My bad. I don't know. I ain't never win it. $25 to win $125. Download the app today. Use coach Shannon to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup prize picks. It's good to be right. Oshay Jackson, Jr. Which is there's Oshay Jackson senior. His name happens to be ice cube. So ice cube son isn't letting anyone diss his dad post 1990 movies. Cube namesake came to his father's defense on Twitter when someone wrote no offense. But why hasn't your dad been in a good movie since the nineties? Like straight garbage since the 90. This is what junior said. I could say jump the 21 Jump Street series. I like 21 Jump Street all about the Benjamin. Good fist fight lottery ticket. Not good. Teenage Mutant New It's been four franchises 2000 began barbershop trilogy. Are we done yet? The sequel TV show ride along. It looks like ride along is getting done again with ice cube and Kevin Hart. Kevin Hart. Yeah. Two more Fridays technically it's five. You know, we're not going through this. You man, we're not going to let y'all do this to cube. He done do it to eat macular. No, no. And cube a cube. Hold on. Cube have been in some good movies on. Yes. He didn't have to show his range. You know, he can get serious. I'm not sure somebody being goddamn picky. I'm talking about somebody trying to rage bait. Because when you look at it, look at it like I don't know. I love barbershop. Barbershop funny as hell. Barbershop funny. I like Eddie. I like Eddie. Anybody got are we done yet? Are we done? It was good with the kids. Nice little ride along. Hey ride along hilarious. Kevin Hart crazy ass. Yes. 21 drop street was good. I didn't see that. I didn't see 21 drop street with a. I think it was in that which in that one which annotate them. I think so. What else we got? What else we got? The Fridays. Friday a Friday. Friday's iconic. Friday is a movie that you can watch no matter where you see it. If you catch it on TV, you watch him from right there at that spot. Friday's up there with boys in the hood. The first Friday is a classic. It's got to be in your rotation. Easily. Easily. It's got to be in your rotation. I don't care if I'm flipping the channels and I see Friday. If I'm stopping the channel, I see Harlem nights. If I'm flipping the channels, I see life. I ain't going no further and I'm gonna watch it. Oh yeah. Every time. So a junior pops on his thing. Don't worry about that, bro. Don't even worry about that. Cause you know, you know how they be doing, man. They be trying to get you. They trying to get you raging and don't fall for it. Now it's time for our final segment of the evening. So, it's time for Q and A. They got me man now. Yeah. I Q was in 21 Jump Street. All right. Before we get to our super chat, we got five video voice mails. Let's take a listen from our discord. Let's take a listen at the first one. What's going on night cat family? Uncle Ocho Joe. My one question to y'all is who do y'all think could be a sleeper in the draft at the Wyvern's Seaver position? My personal opinion, I think a guy like Dionne Burks, you know, a gadget guy that can play multiple positions. I think he'll be a sleeper in the draft. Just all depends on where he goes, but he'll be somebody like how Wanda was my boy Wanda. You know, my boy Rondell guys who can get the ball in space and get it quick, you know, bubble screens and intermediate shorter routes. You know, the drag routes and the crossing routes, but who do y'all think will be a sleeper in the draft at the Wyvern's Seaver position? Because that's the position I like the most every year. I like the little kid from Georgia. I think he ran like four or three, Ocho. And you know Georgia receivers, they're better in the league than they are in college. Yeah. Because their offense in college is really simplistic. Very. If you look at Ladd-McConkey, you look at Pick, you look at a lot of these guys that come out of Georgia and you look at them once they get to the league and look how they flourish. So I like the little kid from Georgia. I think it's Branch. I think his last name is Branch. I'm not sure. But I like him. For me, probably Casey Concepcion, am I saying that? Okay, Texan M. Yeah. I think it all comes down to where you go. All the receivers are good. They're good. They're not great. They don't, they don't, they don't pop out. It's not just your Mar-Chase. It's not your Justin Jefferson type receivers. So situations matter most, you know, for these players, I mean, where they will go for them to be able to flourish. I think in the right system, there can be a jewel. There can be a gem that can surprise a lot of people, especially depending on how fast they learn and pass that learning curve. Okay. Here's our second one. Let's take a listen. What does that say? He ain't lived in Georgia. Oh, it'll feel great. Sterling, Shattered and Sterling, Sean. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That was dope. Yeah, you ain't got one in Liberty City, do you? I do. I'm getting my name. You can't put it up there. You're damn self-dope. No, no, I ain't going to put it up there. You see it's coming. It's coming. I mean, matter of fact, when we do this, we're going to be like, you know, we're going to be like, when we do do that, we need to have Nightcap their life. Oh, Lord have mercy. Yeah, that's going to be nice. Here's our third one. Let's take a listen. Oh, Ocho, I saw that y'all keep up the good work. When y'all going to have time back on there, I always go watch that video again when he said he was at a party. Y'all tripped me out that whole episode. Ocho, this is a video or a cabi when y'all talk about cabi. This video could be a wrestling of Barry when he was like five years old. Yeah, I saw I work for FedEx. So I see the post office trucks all the time, the new ones that you're referring to. The damn windshield about seven foot tall on there. They're like the alien head of aliens. But y'all keep up the good work. Appreciate it. That's exactly what I thought when I saw it today. I'm like, what the hell? Look at that. Look at that. Look like Marvin the Martian windshield. Big ass helmet. All right. Here it is. Number four. Let's take a listen. Yo, what's up? Nightcap. What's up? What's up? Ocho? What's up? I saw Joe. I just want to say, man, y'all are like wonderful, bro. I've been watching since he did like undisputed since he did the little episode of him eating like raccoon and stuff. So, man, I just want to say, man, y'all are like doing something like phenomenal, not only for like our like young generation, but for older people as well. But my one question for Anki and Ocho and for I saw Joe will be, what do y'all think about the lion kiffin and the Pete golden matchup week two of this upcoming college football season here in Oxford, Mississippi of laying kiffin going to LSU and Pete golden being the new Ole Miss head coach. I don't hear y'all thoughts. W nightcap man and keep doing what y'all guys doing. Love y'all. Appreciate you. Appreciate you. Mm hmm. Look, anytime a coach leaves and leave how Lane left, there's going to be some tensions. It didn't seem to me that the players are going to miss Lane because they were very, very supportive of Pete golden. Pete golden is always going to be appreciative of what Lane did. They gave him an opportunity. But. Pete golden. They're going to try to put built ass. Chambers is coming back. He appealed to the Mississippi Supreme Court. So he's going to get a six season. He's out of use. I use a little three, four million dollars that I'm going to pick up not a little bit anyway. I just, you know, make a lot of situations, but that's going to be a great game because that might be the inside track. You know, who's going to get one of those players player first or give them the inside track. Oh, Joe, four. Guess what the SEC C. That's going to be dope. That's going to be a really good game. I mean, if there was any bad blood issue is it is now. Yeah, because you hit a report that old men's had the same had to say, you know, was willing to go to work. LSU, but, uh, you know, they made promise LSU was like, look, we got 20, 25 million. We're going to get you X, Y and Z. We're going to be brain the coaches in whatever you want to do. And so, uh, but I think, uh, clearly for whatever reason, um, Lane, I mean, you got to the college football playoffs. So it's not like you're the void of talent at Ole Miss. Yeah. Now, are you going to consistently get the level of talent at Ole Miss that you didn't get LSU? No. Uh-uh. No. No. No. But we'll find out that's going to be, that's going to be a game. I can't wait to, I can't wait to watch it. Here's our fifth and final one. Let's take a listen. What's up nightcap family sending love from England. My name is Bons. I have a couple of questions for you guys. I want to ask you from the UK. We don't watch a lot of American football. If I was trying to get into it, how would you recommend me starting because the rules and the stops, the plays don't make much sense to me? Question about boxing for Ocho. Ocho, what is the most controversial or worst decision made in boxing? Is it GGG versus Canelo 2 or 1? What is your opinion on that? And another question for ISO Joe or Ankh, who would you compare Steph Curry, LeBron James, Parry Irving to in the NFL? What would you, what would be their comparison? Let me know. Again, appreciate you guys for keeping us entertained. I've been watching you guys for a while since your inception really. Well, it all depends on what position you want to play. I don't know what you play, but if you knew what you played or how much you weighed or how tall you were, I can tell you what position I think you're suited for. And being all honest, I mean, you look like you're a fairly big guy. So I'm going to go, I'm going to say Ocho probably offensive defensive line. Yeah. And defensive line is a lot easier to play than offensive line because guess what? Go get the man with the football. Whoever has the man with whoever has the football, go tackle him. It's simple. You see, you're here. You got a guy lying in front of you. Now either the quarterback going to have the ball and he's trying to throw it to somebody down the field or he's going to hand the ball off to that guy, whichever the case may be. If the quarterback has the ball, go knock hell out of him. If the running back has the ball, go knock hell out of him. Now, if you're an offensive lineman, you see that guy that I just told you you were just trying to knock the hell out of your job is to protect him. Whether he's the quarterback or the running back, your job is not let the guy knock the hell out of either one of them. So for me, I think defense is a little easier to play because of, you know, defensive lineman, go get the quarterback. Offensive line, you got a lot of checks. It might be a combination block. It might be a slip block. You know, it might pull. You know, you might change the line protection. Oh, Joe, Liz, we going left. No, no, rip that rip that. Now we going right. So me, I would say probably defense. Yeah. And that box and question, that's a really good one on decisions that could have that could have gone either way. I don't remember exactly which fight it was with triple G and Canelo. I don't know if it was one or two where I think triple G actually won that fight. I give you one even better. Floyd, mother, Floyd, Mayweather, Jr. When he fought Jose Luis Castillo, I'm not sure if you remember that in 2002. This is that fight was so goddamn good and could have gone either goddamn way. And God damn it was one more. I had it on tip of my tongue. That was very, very controversial. Oh my goodness. Oh, when Canelo fought Eddie, Eddie, Londra, Laura, I'm not gonna say it. You know, Laura, you know what I'm talking about, right? When Canelo fought Laura, if you go back and watch that fight, I don't know what the judge was looking at. That is also another fight that Canelo could have lost when he fought Laura. And that those are my three. I was thinking Mildred Taylor and Julio Chavez Sr. When Richard Steele stopped a damn fight. Man, man, they, they, they, they robbed, they robbed it. Yeah, that's all I'm gonna say. They robbed it. J.D. Elford Macron. Hey, I've been slacking. I'm about to roll with you down to the 240s. What's their goal date? Man, they sent me back. They sent me back. Oh, Jordan, thank you. Slick Jordan be getting up going, going to the gym. I'm gonna have him close the gym on it. Tell him he not allowed in there. He's charged 100 dollars for a day pass. My birthday, June 26th. I'm beat out. Be down. I'm beat out. Woo. Hey, we about the same size. Y'all see that? We about the same size. Matching. Look at that. Y'all ain't never seen that. What I say, Nick. Incredible Hulk. What I say, Hulk, boy, this goddamn eye ain't doing me no good. Murky eye. What's the decision you made in your career that you, that looked like a mistake at the time, but actually shaped you into who you are today? Ooh, that's a good one. Mistake. Damn good one. What, it looked like a mistake. Hell, it was a mistake and it shaped me for the player I am. I turned out to be maybe not off the field, but I got a, I dropped that goddamn ball on four down against the Annapolis Colts. I think it might have been 2002, maybe 2001, 2002. Then I dropped the ball to keep the drive going to give us a chance to actually win the game. So I ain't no telling what would have happened if I caught the ball. I turned the ball though. I dropped the ball. Boy, from that point on, boy, I hadn't dropped, I hadn't dropped a ball in a very long time and I told myself I will never be responsible for being the reason we lose another game. Oh, my goodness. That hurt. My career having kids out of wedlock. Yeah. Because it puts you in a frame of mind because now I ain't just responsible for channel anymore. Got miles to feed. I got people. I got, I got now, I got somebody that I'm literally responsible for that I didn't ask to come. Right. That I helped create them and bring them into a situation they didn't ask to be in. Right. Man, you talking about locking in? Yeah. You ain't had no choice. I didn't, no, Joe. You had no choice. I already got responsibility. I got, you know, my grandma, my sister, my mom, but now I got, I got really name six. Mm hmm. It's like, damn, man, how did I get myself into this? Right. And then how did I get myself into this this many times? What the hell? I know how. But it was the, it was the best decision, because I don't know how many of your kids got an opportunity to see you play. All of them, except obviously the last three didn't. They were, they were, they was their front center. See, that's the thing. All my kids got an opportunity to see me play. They got to see everything. They got to go to the Super Bowl. They got to, uh, uh, to be a part of it. You know, so. Whoo. Responsibility, man. Mm hmm. Responsibility, man. Kids make you grow up real fast. Even if you're not ready to grow up. You, you, you ain't got no choice. As for kids. Uh, what's up, Uncle Nocho? Can y'all wish my mom Anita Delbridge, a speedy recovery. She's recently had a knee replaced. Thanks a lot. Makayla and Jacory. Absolutely Anita speedy recovery. Happy birthday. From what I've heard, from what I've heard, the first three to four weeks, the flow, the first three to four weeks of the knee is that it's going to be painful, but you got to get that range of motion because that's the one thing because it's different than hips. Now I've heard I've had hips bilateral, both my mind replaced. They say hips are easy and it was, but they say that knee. So you're going to have to stay on top of it and Anita cause a got to get you back out there. Hey, quality, quality of life, being able to go and do things with the grand and do things with the kids. So we got to get that knee healthy and strong. So happy birthday. Enjoy this very, very special. No, she just wanted to speedy recover. She didn't want no birthday to enjoy. She had no birthday. I told you, I told you, oh my bad speedy recovery. But a the first three to four weeks, bite down, grit down, hey, and get this thing done. And you know what? I might be having to join you here in the next six to seven months. Anita get mine and get mine done. But hey, you in the meantime, keep your head up, speedy recovery and a thank you guys for watching. Roger Ward six. Hey uncle no show. Do you guys think it's better to be a boxer that can fight or fighter that can box? Congrats on two million love the show. Oh, Joe, what is it better boy? You got to you got to have a little bit of both. Depending on who you fight because if you if you get in there, if you're a boxer, you get in there with a pressure fighter that's constantly pressuring you boxing ain't gonna work. He's going to force you to fight. Even to force you to fight. So it's good to have a little bit of both or you'll be overwhelmed and all you're taking them got damn deep water. If you can't fight, you can go out box somebody. Man, that's not gonna happen. That ain't gonna happen. Hey, Quinn, that's be a oh Joe wish my woman happy 37th birthday Jill Quinn. This is the this will really make her day when she sees this. What's the name Jill? Happy 37 happy birthday to you. Happy 37 times around the sun to you. Happy birthday, dear Jill, who went up the hill. Happy birthday to you. Yeah. Yeah, hopefully you had a very, very blessed day. Hopefully you. Quinn, I hope you did something special for you, lady. But sometimes I think we don't really appreciate know how lucky we are to see another day that we woke up this morning. We were in our right mind. We had use of our limbs and the blood was still running warm in our veins because somebody had an appointment. They couldn't reschedule. Somebody didn't get it. Not going to get an opportunity to see their birthday. But Jill, you were very, very special that the man allowed you to open your eyes and know that you have someone that loves you and cares about you. That wanted to share this special day with you. And hopefully you guys did something fun. You went probably got breakfast, got lunch and dinner, maybe took you out for a great dinner birthday dinner. But I want to thank you guys for supporting nightcap, sending in questions like this and Jill, hopefully you had the very best birthday that you've had on this earth. Happy 37th, Jill. Sean underscore show show up North Carolina a sleep on basketball state. We got MJ worthy Dominic Curry CP three wall stack house put some respect on North Carolina. Uh, Curry was born in Ohio. Same hospital as LeBron James. So y'all can't claim him. But a mother three. Yeah. MJ worthy neat. All in the Hall of Fame are current gonna be in the Hall of Fame CP three gonna be in the Hall of Fame. Now, North Carolina is a state that gets left on it gets left on in basketball. They got some, you know, obviously, you know, you think of basketball, you think of New York or you think of California, things like that. But no, you guys have put some really good guys into the NBA. And like I said, MJ worthy and Dominic and Curry CP three were all the top 75. So I think that goes without saying North Carolina slept on Andy Lopez. Oh, Joe, pay that 11,000 in soccer jerseys or something, bro. Also switched 85 the bungles trash. Now I want to them no Jerry no soccer, no soccer kills. What are the kids that gonna do to me? I mean, what? Hey, uh, yeah, yeah, it's a lot of men that I want cold, hard cash. I got by 1500 1500 jerseys you can keep them all. I want the money. Money. I'm 1000%. I've never been more sure something in my life. I just let me let me know you need it. Just just break the break the emergency glass. I got you. I've never been more sure really thinking about life. Black Moses, Cube living ledger, all those movies and his catalog. Hey, now we know Q music like that. Oh, yeah. I'm doing a lot of writing for them. Hey, that was the you got to realize that's what gangster rap. I mean, that was it. Mm hmm. I mean, they went hard. Foxy mama 43 21. Oh, Joe, you never answered my question about bringing your podcast to the FIFA World Cup. Also up. I would love for you to interview. Excuse me, Creighton Ward is on Club Shea Shea. That would be an awesome interview. Oh, Joe, she said you ain't answering her question. Man, I'm going to I'm going to already be at the FIFA World Cup. I mean, we already going to be there. Matter of fact, hey, I'm speaking of FIFA World Cup. I'm not sure who that was as a question. I sat ready. I said next to Gianni tonight. The FIFA president. Oh, did you? Yeah, I was sitting right next to him. So it was cool. We sat there. We chopped it up for a little bit. Of course, me, I couldn't help myself on. I asked him to come on the podcast. I mean, I'm listening to somebody like that of that. You can do it. Say no. Yeah. Someone of that magnitude. I mean, I if he told me no, I mean, it is. I probably would probably cry right there on the spot. But I'm he said he's going to see what he can do. And that that was just hearing that was enough for me. Right. I don't know who Creighton Ward is. Let me look up. Craig Ward is because you know who that is. I thought you're Creighton. No. Mm-mm. South Carolina. The attorney general of South Carolina. I guess that's who he is. Yeah. Like I'll just say, we'll see what we can do. Calvin 31. Yeah. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Calvin 31. 63. What would, uh, what would he call for a Shannon Sharp Stolar Rocket from NASA. Wait, who? What would he call it? If Shannon Sharp Stolar Rocket from NASA. Somebody is trying to be further out. He would know. Edgar 0.5. Yo, Ocho, I wasn't watching football in 2010, but what What exactly caused your bingos to decline from 10 and 6 to 4 and 12? Can we get a TO on the show? I mean that's a good question on what caused the decline. I mean, especially with me and me and T offensively, I mean we just weren't winning. We just weren't winning. I don't, defense was bad, offense was bad, even with me and T, I mean offense was pretty good. I think defense was the problem. I mean defense is still the problem. I don't care. Was that TO first year there with you? Yeah, and we went 4 and 12. Damn. Went 4 and 12. Damn. Yeah, I don't know what happened. I thought we were, I thought, well, offensively, we were pretty good still, but defensely, if I'm not mistaken, I think we were pretty bad. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sorry, Ocho, y'all been bad for a while. We'll be all right. Y'all gonna be good this year? We was good last year. Just joke I hurt. No, no, you wasn't good though. We was good in 2021. We went to the Super Bowl. Ocho, do you know how long ago that's been? How long it's been? You was in your late 30s. Oh, my bad. My bad. To where you going to score? Be honest, if you lined up against each other in your prime, who's winning that matchup? We play the same, but we play basically the same position. We play offense. I'll be going to line up against each other. He get me now because you know my old knee got bad, not to heal up my knee. I don't let me be hurting. I can't even do all the things I be wanting to do, Ocho. Look at it. What's that? Who's bobblehead is that? That's you? Yep. You got him. They ain't giving me no part though. Where my Funko at? I don't know. I'm in A. I got a Beanie baby. You see my Funko, I see you this. Okay. Okay. What I got for you, Ocho. I got something for you, Ocho. My jerseys? No, I ain't in what you call them. I'm in the A. I trade you. I don't want that. I don't know. I ain't got nothing, man. I'm sorry. I'm worried about it. I got a automatic uno, Shuffler. See? And then you just pull it off the top. Ain't no cheating. Nah, I don't like that. You be trying to cheat. I like to shuffle myself. Nah, you be trying to cheat. I ain't got nothing. I ain't got nothing. I ain't got nothing. I ain't gonna cheat. Nah. Like I'm gonna take your word for that. I ain't gonna cheat. I ain't no cheating, man. I do know. Yes, yes, yes. Unfortunately, yes, we do know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. that that She needs some money. 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