Jane Austen Stories

Pride and Prejudice Part 9

43 min
Oct 28, 20256 months ago
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Summary

This episode of Jane Austen Stories covers Pride and Prejudice chapters 22-24, focusing on Mr. Collins' unexpected engagement to Charlotte Lucas instead of Elizabeth, and the growing concern over Mr. Bingley's sudden departure from Hertfordshire and apparent interest in Miss Darcy. The episode explores themes of marriage as economic necessity, social obligation, and the consequences of family interference in romantic relationships.

Insights
  • Marriage in Austen's era functioned as a primary economic security mechanism for women without independent income, driving pragmatic decisions over romantic compatibility
  • Social class and patronage relationships created power dynamics that influenced personal decisions, as demonstrated by Mr. Collins' deference to Lady Catherine
  • Miscommunication and lack of direct dialogue between potential partners allowed third-party interference to derail relationships
  • Female friendships were tested by divergent life choices and economic circumstances, creating lasting rifts in social bonds
  • Appearance of propriety and social standing often masked deeper unhappiness and incompatibility in arranged or pragmatic marriages
Trends
Economic dependency of unmarried women on marriage prospects as primary life strategyRole of social networks and family connections in relationship formation and dissolutionClass-based patronage systems influencing personal autonomy and decision-makingGender dynamics in courtship where women had limited agency despite being the pursued partyConflict between romantic ideals and practical economic necessity in marriage decisionsInformation asymmetry and rumor-based communication affecting relationship outcomesSibling and friend influence on romantic partner selection and commitmentLong-distance relationship challenges and communication delays in pre-modern era
Topics
Marriage as economic security mechanismSocial class and patronage relationshipsFemale economic dependency and autonomyCourtship and engagement customsFamily interference in romantic relationshipsFriendship dynamics and social obligationRomantic attachment versus pragmatic marriageReputation and social standingCommunication barriers in relationshipsEntailment and property inheritance lawsGender roles in Regency-era societyThird-party influence on relationship outcomes
People
Elizabeth Bennet
Protagonist who rejects Mr. Collins' proposal and struggles with Charlotte's pragmatic engagement decision
Charlotte Lucas
Elizabeth's friend who accepts Mr. Collins' proposal for economic security despite lack of romantic attachment
Mr. Collins
Clergyman who proposes to Elizabeth, then Charlotte, motivated by deference to patroness Lady Catherine
Mr. Bingley
Wealthy gentleman who abandons courtship of Jane and relocates to London, influenced by his sisters and Mr. Darcy
Jane Bennet
Elizabeth's sister whose romantic prospects are damaged by Bingley's departure and his sister Caroline's interference
Mr. Darcy
Wealthy gentleman whose friendship with Bingley and sister Georgiana influence Bingley's romantic decisions
Caroline Bingley
Mr. Bingley's sister who actively works to separate him from Jane and promote Miss Darcy
Mrs. Bennet
Elizabeth's mother who is devastated by Charlotte's engagement and obsesses over Bingley's absence
Mr. Bennet
Elizabeth's father who supports her rejection of Mr. Collins and treats the situation with detached humor
Lady Catherine
Mr. Collins' patroness whose approval he seeks for all major decisions, including his marriage
Miss Darcy
Mr. Darcy's accomplished sister whom Caroline Bingley promotes as a romantic interest for her brother
Sir William Lucas
Charlotte's father who announces her engagement to the Bennet family with great satisfaction
Quotes
"Without thinking highly either of men or of matrimony marriage had always been her object. It was the only honorable provision for well-educated young women of small fortune"
Narrator (describing Charlotte Lucas)Chapter 22
"Mr Collins is a conceited pompous narrow minded silly man you know he is as well as i do and you must feel as well as i do that the woman who marries him cannot have a proper way of thinking"
Elizabeth BennetChapter 24
"I have nothing either to hope or fear and nothing to reproach him with thank god i have not that pain"
Jane BennetChapter 24
"The more i see of the world the more am i dissatisfied with it and every day confirms my belief of the inconsistency of all human characters"
Elizabeth BennetChapter 24
"Your sister is crossed in love i find i congratulate her next to being married a girl likes to be crossed in love a little now and then"
Mr. BennetChapter 24
Full Transcript
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I'm Julie Andrews and from the Noiser Podcast Network, this is Pride and Prejudice Part 9. In the previous episode, we finally had a marriage proposal at last. But not one that anyone was expecting or hoping for. Elizabeth was thoroughly taken aback by Mr Collins' offer of marriage and his bungled and charmless proposal hardly stole her heart. At first, Mr Collins wouldn't take no for an answer, assuming Lizzie was just being coy and modest by refusing him. When it became clear that her rejection was serious, the pompous man's pride was sorely wounded. Mrs Bennett was just as horrified by her daughter's behaviour, but Lizzie's father supported her decision, saying if she married Collins, he'd never speak to her again. At the same time, Jane's romantic prospects were also suffering. Mr Bingley, who seemed destined to propose, suddenly departed. Jane received a letter from Bingley's sister, saying they were leaving Netherfield once and returning to London. What's more, we learned of Mr Bingley's close relationship with Mr Darcy's beautiful, accomplished sister, Georgiana. With Jane heartbroken, we're left wondering why has Mr Bingley had this sudden change of heart? Has someone influenced his decision? Does the eldest Bennett daughter still have a chance at happiness? With these big questions unanswered for now, life goes on, and we rejoin the Bennett family as they arrive for dinner at the home with their close friends and neighbours, the Lucas' and before long, Lizzie is in for another surprise. From the Noiser podcast network, this is Pride and Prejudice. Chapter 22 The Bennets were engaged to dine with the Lucas' and again during the chief of the day was Miss Lucas so kind as to listen to Mr Collins. Elizabeth took an opportunity of thanking her. It keeps him in a good humour, said Lizzie, and I'm more obliged to you than I can express. Charlotte assured her friend of her satisfaction in being useful and that it amply repaid her for the little sacrifice of her time. This was very amiable, but Charlotte's kindness extended further than Elizabeth had any conception of. Its object was nothing less than to secure her from any return of Mr Collins' addresses by engaging them towards herself. Such was Miss Lucas' scheme and appearances were so favourable that when they parted at night she would have felt almost sure of success if he had not been to leave Hartfordshire so very soon. But here she did injustice to the fire and independence of his character, for it led him to escape out of Longbourn House the next morning with admirable slinus and hastened to Lucas Lodge to throw himself at her feet. He was anxious to avoid the notice of his cousins from a conviction that if they saw him depart they could not fail to conjecture his design and he was not willing to have the attempt known till its success could be known likewise. For though feeling almost secure and with reason, Charlotte had been tolerably encouraging. He was comparatively diffident since the adventure of Wednesday. His reception, however, was of the most flattering kind. Miss Lucas perceived him from an upper window as he walked towards the house and instantly set out to meet him accidentally in the lane. But little had she dared to hope that so much love and eloquence awaited her there. In a shorter time as Mr Collins' long speeches would allow, everything was settled between them to the satisfaction of both and as they entered the house he earnestly entreated her to name the day that was to make him the happiest of men. And those such a solicitation must be waived for the present, the lady felt no inclination to trifle with his happiness. The stupidity with which he was favoured by nature must guard his courtship from any charm that could make a woman wish for its continuance. And Miss Lucas, who accepted him solely from the pure and disinterested desire of an establishment, cared not how soon that establishment were gained. So William and Lady Lucas were speedily applied to for their consent and it was bestowed with a most joyful alacrity. Mr Collins' present circumstances made it a most eligible match for their daughter to whom they could give little fortune and his prospects of future wealth were exceedingly fair. Lady Lucas began directly to calculate with more interest than the matter had ever excited before how many years longer Mr Bennet was likely to live and so William gave it as his decided opinion that whenever Mr Collins should be in possession of the long-born estate it would be highly expedient that both he and his wife should make their appearance at St. James. The whole family in short were properly overjoyed on the occasion. The Lucas' younger girls formed hopes of coming out a year or two sooner than they might otherwise have done and the Lucas boys were relieved from their apprehension of Charlotte's dying and old maid. Charlotte herself was tolerably composed. She had gained her point and had time to consider of it. Her reflections were in general satisfactory. Mr Collins to be sure was neither sensible nor agreeable. His society was irksome and his attachment to her must be imaginary but still he would be her husband. Without thinking highly either of men or of matrimony marriage had always been her object. It was the only honorable provision for well-educated young women of small fortune and however uncertain of giving happiness must be their pleasantest preservative from want. This preservative she had now obtained and at the age of 27 without having ever been handsome she felt all the good luck of it. The least agreeable circumstance in the business was the surprise it must occasion to Elizabeth Bennett whose friendship she valued beyond that of any other person. Elizabeth would wonder and probably would blame her and though her resolution was not to be shaken her feelings must be hurt by such a disapprobation. She resolved to give her the information herself and therefore charged Mr Collins when he returned to Longbourn to dinner to drop no hint of what had passed before any of the family. A promise of secrecy was of course very dutifully given but it could not be kept without difficulty for the curiosity excited by his long absence burst forth in such very direct questions on his return as required some ingenuity to evade and he was at the same time exercising great self-denial that he was longing to publish his prosperous love. As he was to begin his journey too early on the morrow to see any of the family the ceremony of leave-taking was performed when the ladies moved for the night and Mrs Bennett with great politeness and cordiality said how happy they should be to see him at Longbourn again whenever his other engagements might allow him to visit them. My dear madame replied Mr Collins this invitation is particularly gratifying because it is what I have been hoping to receive and you may be very certain that I shall avail myself of it as soon as possible. They were all astonished and Mr Bennett who could by no means wish for so speedy a return immediately said but is there not danger of Lady Catherine's disapprobation here my good sir you had better neglect your relations than run the risk of offending your patroness. My dear sir replied Mr Collins I am particularly obliged to you for this friendly caution and you may depend upon my not taking so material a step without her ladies concurrence. You cannot be too much on your guard replied Mr Bennett risk anything rather than her displeasure and if you find it likely to be raised by your coming to us again which I should think exceedingly probable stay quietly at home and be satisfied that we shall take no offense. Oh believe me my dear sir replied Mr Collins my gratitude is warmly excited by such affectionate attention and depend upon it you will speedily receive from me for this as well as for every other mark of your regard during my stay in Hertfordshire. As for my fair cousins though my absence may not be long enough to render it necessary I shall now take the liberty of wishing them health and happiness not accepting my cousin Elizabeth. Was proper civilities the ladies then was drew all of them equally surprised to find that he meditated a quick return Mrs Bennett wished to understand by it that he thought of paying his addresses to one of her younger girls and Mary might have been prevailed on to accept him she rated his abilities much higher than any of the others there was a solidity in his reflections which often struck her and though my no means so clever as herself she thought that if encouraged to read and improve himself by such an example as hers he might become a very agreeable companion but on the following morning every hope of this kind was done away Miss Lucas called soon after breakfast and in a private conference with Elizabeth related the event of the day before the possibility of Mr Collins fancing himself in love with her friend had once occurred to Elizabeth within the last day or two but that Charlotte could encourage him seemed almost as far from possibility as she could encourage him herself and her astonishment was consequently so great as to overcome at first the bounds of decorum and she could not help crying out engaged to mr Collins my dear Charlotte impossible the steady countenance which Miss Lucas had commanded in telling her story gave way to a momentary confusion here on receiving so direct a reproach though as it was no more than she expected she soon regained her composure and calmly replied why should you be surprised my dear Elizabeth do you think it incredible that mr Collins should be able to procure any woman's good opinion because he was not so happy as to succeed with you but Elizabeth had now recollected herself and making a strong effort for it was able to assure her with tolerable firmness that the prospect of their relationship was highly grateful to her and that she wished her all imaginable happiness i see what you are feeling replied Charlotte you must be surprised very much surprised so lately as mr Collins was wishing to marry you but when you have had time to think it all over i hope you will be satisfied with what i have done i am not romantic you know i never was and i ask only a comfortable home and considering mr Collins character connections and situation in life i'm convinced that my chance of happiness with him is as fair as most people can boast on entering the marriage state Elizabeth quietly answered undoubtedly and after an awkward pause they returned to the rest of the family charlotte did not stay much longer and Elizabeth was then left to reflect on what she had heard it was a long time before she became at all reconciled to the idea of so unsuitable a match the strangeness of mr Collins making two offers of marriage within three days was nothing in comparison of his being now accepted she had always felt that charlotte's opinion of matrimony was not exactly like her own but she could not have supposed it possible that when called into action she would have sacrificed every better feeling to worldly advantage 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Bennett with more perseverance than politeness protested he must be entirely mistaken and Lydia always unguarded and often uncivil boisterously exclaimed good lord sir William how can you tell such a story do not you know that mr. Collins wants to marry Lizzie nothing less than the complacence of a courtier could have borne without anger such treatment but sir William's good reading carried him through it all and though he begged leave to be positive as to the truth of his information he listened to all their impertinence with the most forbearing courtesy Elizabeth feeling it incumbent on her to relieve him from so unpleasant a situation now put herself forward to confirm his account by mentioning her prior knowledge of it from Charlotte herself and endeavored to put a stop to the exclamations of her mother and sisters by the earnestness of her congratulations to Sir William in which she was readily joined by Jane and by making a variety of remarks on the happiness that might be expected from the match the excellent character of mr. Collins and the convenient distance of Huntsford from London mrs. Bennett was in fact too much overpowered to say a great deal while sir William remained but no sooner had he left than her feelings found a rapid vent in the first place she persisted in disbelieving the whole of the matter secondly she was very sure that mr. Collins had been taken in thirdly she trusted that they would never be happy together and fourthly that the match might be broken off two inferences however were plainly deduced from the whole one that Elizabeth was the real cause of all the mischief and the other that she herself had been barbarously used to buy them all and on these two points she principally dwelt during the rest of the day nothing could console and nothing appease her nor did that day wear out her resentment a week elapsed before she could see Elizabeth without scolding her a month passed away before she could speak to Sir William or Lady Lucas without being rude and many months were gone before she could at all forgive their daughter mr. Bennett's emotions were much more tranquil on the occasion and such as he did experience he pronounced to be of a most agreeable sort for it gratified him he said to discover that Charlotte Lucas whom he had been used to think tolerably sensible was as foolish as his wife and more foolish than his daughter Jane confessed herself a little surprised at the match but she said less of her astonishment than of her earnest desire for their happiness nor could Elizabeth persuade her to consider it as improbable Kitty and Lydia were far from envying miss Lucas for mr. Collins was only a clergyman and it affected them in no other way than as a piece of news to spread at Marathon Lady Lucas could not be insensible of triumph on being able to retort on Mrs. Bennett the comfort of having a daughter well married and she called long-born rather oftener than usual to say how happy she was though Mrs. Bennett's sour looks and ill nature remarks might have been enough to drive happiness away between Elizabeth and Charlotte there was a restraint which kept them mutually silent on the subject and Elizabeth's help persuaded that no real confidence could ever subsist between them again her disappointment in Charlotte made her turn with fond regard to Jane of whose retitude and delicacy she was sure her opinion could never be shaken and for whose happiness she grew daily more anxious as Bingley had now been gone a week and nothing was heard of his return Jane had sent Caroline an early answer to her letter and was counting the days till she might reasonably hope to hear again the promised letter of thanks for mr. Collins arrived on Tuesday addressed to their father and written with all the solemnity of gratitude which at 12 months abode in the family might have prompted after discharging his conscience on that head he proceeded to inform them with many rapturous expressions of his happiness in having obtained the affection of their amiable neighbor miss Lucas and then explained that it was merely with a view of enjoying her society that he had been so ready to close with their kind wish of seeing him again at Longborn whether he hoped to be able to return on Monday fortnight for Lady Catherine he added so heartily approved his marriage that she wished it to take place as soon as possible which he trusted would be an unanswerable argument with his amiable charlotte to name an early day for making him the happiest of men mr. Collins return into heart to cheer was no longer a matter of pleasure to mrs. Bennett on the contrary she was as much disposed to complain of it as her husband it was very strange that he should come to Longborn instead of to Lucas Lodge it is all very inconvenient and exceedingly troublesome she hated having visitors in the house while her health was so indifferent and lovers were of all people the most disagreeable such were the gentle murmurs of mrs. Bennett and they gave way only to the greater distress of mr. Bingley's continued absence neither Jane nor Elizabeth were comfortable on this subject day after day passed away without bringing any other tidings of him than the report which shortly prevailed in meritan of his coming no more to Netherfield the whole winter a report which highly incensed mrs. Bennett and which he never failed to contradict as a most scandalous fault hood even Elizabeth began to fear not that Bingley was indifferent but that his sisters would be successful in keeping him away unwilling as she was to admit an idea so destructive to Jane's happiness and so dishonorable to the stability of her lover she could not prevent its frequently recurring the united efforts of his two unfeeling sisters and of his overpowering friend assisted by the attractions of miss Darcy and the amusements of London might be too much she feared for the strength of his attachment as for Jane her anxiety under this suspense was of course more painful than Elizabeth's but whatever she felt she was desirous of concealing and between herself and Elizabeth therefore the subject was never alluded to but as no such delicacy restrained her mother an hour seldom passed in which she did not talk of Bingley express her impatience for his arrival or even require Jane to confess that if he did not come back she should think herself very ill-used it needed all Jane's steady mildness to bear these attacks with tolerable tranquility mr. Collins returned most punctually on the monday fortnight but his reception at long-born was not quite so gracious as it had been on his first introduction he was too happy however to need much attention and luckily for the others the business of courtship relieved them from a great deal of his company the chief of every day was spent by him at Lucas Lodge and he sometimes returned to long-born only in time to make an apology for his absence before the family went to bed mrs. Bennet was really in a most pitiable state the very mention of anything concerning the match threw her into an agony of ill-humour and wherever she went she was sure of hearing it talked of the sight of miss lucas was odious to her as her successor in that house she regarded her with jealous abhorrence whenever charlotte came to see them she concluded her to be anticipating the hour of possession and whenever she spoke in a low voice to mr. Collins was convinced that they were talking of the long-born estate and resolving to turn herself and her daughters out of the house as soon as mr. Bennet was dead she complained bitterly of all this to her husband indeed mr. Bennet said she it is very hard to think that charlotte lucas should ever be mistress of this house that i should be forced to make way for her and live to see her take my place in it my dear do not give way to such gloomy thoughts replied mr. Bennet let us hope for better things let us flatter ourselves that i may be the survivor this was not very consoling to mrs. Bennet and therefore instead of making any answer she went on as before i cannot bear to think that they should have all this estate if it was not for the entail i should not mind it what should you not mind asked mr. Bennet i should not mind anything at all replied mr. Bennet let us be thankful that you are preserved from a state of such insensibility i never can be thankful mr. Bennet for anything about the entail how anyone could have the conscience to entail away an estate from one's own daughters i cannot understand and all for the sake of mr. Collins too why should he have it more than anybody else i leave it to yourself to determine said mr. 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Bennet's leaving them together after a longer irritation than usual about never field and its master she could not help saying oh that my dear mother had more command over herself she can have no idea the pain she gives me by her continual reflections on mr. Bingley but i will not repine it cannot last long he will be forgot and we shall all be as we were before Elizabeth looked at her sister with incredulous solicitude but said nothing you doubt me cried Jane slightly coloring indeed you have no reason he may live in my memory as the most amiable man of my acquaintance but that is all i have nothing either to hope or fear and nothing to reproach him with thank god i have not that pain a little time therefore i shall certainly try to get the better with a stronger voice she soon added i have this comfort immediately that it has not been more than an error of fancy on my side and that it has done no harm to anyone but myself my dear Jane exclaimed to this with you are too good your sweetness and disinterestedness a really angelic i do not know what to say to you i feel as if i had never done you justice or loved you as you deserve miss Bennett eagerly disclaimed all extraordinary merit and threw back the praise on her sister's warm affection nay said elizabeth this is not fair you wish to think all the world respectable and are hurt if i speak ill of anybody i only want to think you perfect and you set yourself against it do not be afraid of my running into any excess of my encroaching on your privilege of universal goodwill you need not there are few people whom i really love and still fewer of whom i think well the more i see of the world the more am i dissatisfied with it and every day confirms my belief of the inconsistency of all human characters and of the little dependence that can be placed on the appearance of either merit or sense i have met with two instances lately one i will not mention the other is charlotte's marriage it is unaccountable in every view it is unaccountable my dear lizzie do not give way to such feelings as these they will ruin your happiness you do not make allowances enough for difference of situation and temper consider mr collin's respectability and charlotte's prudent steady character remember that she's one of a large family that as to fortune it is a most eligible match and be ready to believe for everybody's sake that she may feel something like regard and esteem for our cousin to oblige you replied lizzie i would try to believe almost anything but no one else could be benefited by such a belief as this for where i persuaded that charlotte had any regard for him i should only think worse of her understanding than i now do of her heart oh my dear jane mr collins is a conceited pompous narrow minded silly man you know he is as well as i do and you must feel as well as i do that the woman who marries him cannot have a proper way of thinking you shall not defend her though it is charlotte lucas you shall not for the sake of one individual change the meaning of principle and integrity nor endeavor to persuade yourself or me that selfishness is prudence and insensibility of danger security for happiness i must think your language too strong in speaking of both replied jane and i hope you will be convinced of it by seeing them happy together but enough of this you alluded to something else you mentioned two instances i i cannot misunderstand you but i entreat you dear lizzie not to pain me by thinking that person to blame and saying your opinion of him is sunk we must not be ready to fancy ourselves intentionally injured we must not expect a lively young man to be always so guarded and circumspect it is very often nothing but our own vanity that deceives us women fancy admiration means more than it does and men take care that they should said lizzie if it is designedly done they cannot be justified replied jane but i have no idea of there being so much design in the world as some persons imagine i'm far from attributing any part of mr. bingley's conduct to design said elizabeth but without scheming to do wrong or to make others unhappy there may be error and there may be misery thoughtlessness want of attention to other people's feelings and want of resolution will do the business and do you impute it to either of those yes to the last replied lizzie but if i go on i shall displease you by saying what i think of persons you esteem stop me whilst you can you persist then in supposing his sisters influence him yes in conjunction with his friend i cannot believe it why should they try to influence him they can only wish his happiness and if he is attached to me no other woman can secure it said jane your first position is false replied lizzie they may wish many things besides this happiness they may wish his increase of wealth and consequence they may wish him to marry a girl who has all the importance of money great connections and pride beyond a doubt they do wish him to choose miss darcy replied jane but this may be from better feelings than you are supposing they have known her much longer than they have known me no wonder if they love her better but whatever may be their own wishes it is very unlikely they should have opposed their brothers what sister would think herself at liberty to do it unless there was something very objectionable if they believed him attached to me they would not try to part us if he was so they could not succeed by supposing such an affection you make everybody acting unnaturally and wrong and me most unhappy do not distress me by the idea i am not ashamed of having been mistaken or at least it is light it is nothing in comparison of what i should feel in thinking ill of him or his sisters let me take it in the best light in the light in which it may be understood elizabeth could not oppose such a wish and from this time mr bingley's name was scarcely ever mentioned between them mrs menet still continued to wonder and repine at his returning no more and though a day seldom passed in which elizabeth did not account for it clearly there seemed little chance of her ever considering it with less perplexity her daughter endeavored to convince her of what she did not believe herself that his attentions to jane had been merely the effect of a common and transient liking which ceased when he saw her no more but though the probability of the statement was admitted at the time she had the same story to repeat every day mrs menet's best comfort was that mr bingley must be down again in the summer mr bingett treated the matter differently so lizzie said he one day your sister is crossed in love i find i congratulate her next to being married a girl likes to be crossed in love a little now and then it is something to think of and gives her a sort of distinction among her companions when is your turn to come you will hardly bear to be long outdone by jane now is your time here our officers enough at meritan to disappoint all the young ladies in the country let wiccombe your man he's a pleasant fellow and would jilt you creditably thank you sir but a less agreeable man would satisfy me we must not all expect jane's good fortune true said mr bennett but it is a comfort to think that whatever of that kind may befall you you have an affectionate mother who will always make the most of it mr wiccombe's society was of material service in dispelling the gloom which the late perverse occurrences had thrown on so many of the long-born family they saw him often and to his other recommendations was now added that of general unreserved the whole of what elizabeth had already heard his claims on mr darcy and all that he had suffered from him was now openly acknowledged and publicly canvassed and everybody was pleased to think how much they had always disliked mr Darcy before they had known anything of the matter mr jane bennett was the only creature who could suppose there might be any extenuating circumstance in the case unknown to the society of artichoke her mild and steady candor always pleaded for allowances and urged the possibility of mistakes but by everybody else mr Darcy was condemned as the worst of men in the next episode it's christmas time 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