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#244 - McNasty went to a Slackjaw concert!

62 min
Apr 6, 202622 days ago
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Summary

McNasty recounts attending PAX East in Boston and a Slackjaw concert in San Luis Obispo, discussing fan interactions, a friend's ankle injury from playground equipment, and the hosts' upcoming music project. The episode covers convention experiences, sponsor integrations, and casual banter about food, drinks, and personal anecdotes.

Insights
  • Fan meetups at conventions create meaningful emotional connections—fans often experience physical reactions (trembling, vibrating) when meeting content creators in person, indicating deep parasocial relationships
  • Convention attendance varies significantly by event type; PAX attracts niche/quirky gamers while TwitchCon draws more mainstream audiences with traditional career professionals
  • Live music performances provide different value than streaming content—watching artists perform live reveals objective musical quality and production value that changes audience perception
  • Content creator safety requires caution with unsolicited fan gifts (food, substances) due to potential tampering risks, as evidenced by historical incidents like Lil Peep's overdose
  • Multi-year creative projects suffer from scope creep and continuity issues—voice changes, lost files, and extended breaks make finishing collaborative work exponentially harder
Trends
Convention culture shifting toward smaller, more intimate fan meetups rather than large booth experiencesParasocial relationships with creators intensifying—fans traveling to events and creating custom handmade giftsLive music venues in smaller college towns (San Luis Obispo) attracting dedicated fan bases despite lower attendanceContent creators increasingly cautious about accepting fan-provided consumables due to safety concernsLong-form collaborative music projects becoming less viable as creators' schedules fragment across multiple venturesFan art and custom merchandise becoming primary emotional currency in creator-fan relationshipsMosh pit culture and aggressive concert behavior normalizing in smaller venue settings
Topics
Convention fan meetups and parasocial relationshipsPAX East vs TwitchCon audience demographicsLive music performance value vs streamingFan safety and creator liabilityCollaborative music production challengesContent creator brand partnershipsPlayground injury incidentsAlcohol consumption and impaired judgmentCustom fan art and merchandiseConcert venue experiencesMulti-year creative project managementSponsorship integration in podcastsFan gift acceptance protocols
Companies
GamerSubs.gg
Primary sponsor providing booth space at PAX East for fan meetups and offering 10% discount with code GOONS
Cheeky (Use Cheeky)
Soap sponsor offering bergamot and ginger bar soap with 10% discount using code GOONS
Penny Arcade Expo (PAX)
Gaming convention in Boston where McNasty attended and met fans; described as attracting niche/quirky gamers
TwitchCon
Alternative convention mentioned as attracting more mainstream audiences with traditional professionals
Slackjaw
Musical band/artist whose concert McNasty attended in San Luis Obispo; associated with Sleep Token merchandise
Humdinger Brewery
Venue in San Luis Obispo where Slackjaw performed their concert
Cheesecake Factory
Restaurant mentioned for extremely dense, high-calorie cheesecake desserts
Misfits Podcast
Podcast where host previously worked; anecdote about fan showing up with homemade cake at house
People
McNasty
Main speaker; attended PAX East and Slackjaw concert, shared fan interaction experiences
Blarg
Regular host who was absent last week; mentioned as missed by the group
Soup
Band member in Slackjaw; performed concert in San Luis Obispo; noted smallest show attendance
Droid
Attended PAX East; fractured ankle in two places on spinning playground equipment; showed up to meetup on crutches
Tyler Wildcat
Host with controversial take on flaky salt on chocolate chip cookies; has a daughter (the grub)
Retrix
Attended PAX East; ordered wheelchair for Droid after injury; discussed PAX experience beforehand
Pasta
Attended PAX East meetup with boyfriend; described as having good energy and being hilarious
Swags
Met at PAX East 2018; created custom clay figurines as fan gift
Fitz
Former podcast colleague; anecdote about fan showing up with homemade cake at house
Lil Peep
Referenced as cautionary tale; died from overdose after accepting laced pill from fan
Frank Ocean
Referenced as comparison for long album development cycle (Blonde album)
Kelly
Tyler's wife; takes Japanese classes with McNasty and Tyler; has a child (the grub)
Quotes
"I wouldn't go out of my way to go to it. But the reason I go to it and a lot of us go to it is to just do a little meetup and meet some of our audience."
McNastyPAX discussion
"He showed up to the meetup halfway through in crutches. He literally came from the hospital. He's such a fucking trooper dude."
McNastyDroid ankle injury discussion
"It's one of my favorite points of the job is going to convention and 99% of the people we meet are so rad."
McNastyFan interaction discussion
"You never know what their intentions are. I can't smoke. I wouldn't consume anything a fan gives me."
McNastyFan safety discussion
"We perfected the metal genre so I think it's time to move on and perfect the different genre we go into."
Podcast hostMusic project discussion
Full Transcript
Welcome back to the guns. Welcome back to the guns. Welcome back to the games. The music is playing. Yee-haw! That sounded like the musical version of someone having a heart attack then dying. I got really amped at the life of the game. Someone put a flag in it and then died. I got a heart monitor that was connected to a harmonica. Slowly died off. Oh yeah, welcome back to the guns. Thank you guys everybody. Welcome back to the guns. Welcome back. We're so in the fucking back. We sorely missed the one and only Blarg last week. Missed is a strong word. We were lacking Blarg last week and it was... It was okay. It was okay. I was gonna be way worse. But it was actually... I listened to a bit. There have been a lot of occasions in the past where it'll only be three of us. Even back when Soup was around. For some reason, an occasional three person podcast does really well. I can't remember the last time we've done a three person podcast where it's been like ass. Well, I mean, I don't think we have ass episodes. But what am I to say? It's just for some reason, every once in a while when you toss in one person's gun and we don't have a guest. For some reason that specific one would be like... Just amplified for some reason. You're trying to compensate for the length of another host. Bro, McNasty, just say you want me to leave. It's fine. Alright dude, I get it. It's not a big deal. You got a cowboy hat on. I'm an asshole. Do you have a cross on? It's an onk. It's an onk. He got onked there. I thought you became religious but you're just Moon Knight. This is actually the original. Moon Knight throws a shit at. I believe that the onk is what the cross was originated from. The Christian cross. We'll get it wrong. Don't trust the fuck we're saying. Funny little thing to kill guys with. If you, the viewer, are onk, you can get some energy and some pep in yourself by going to GamerSubs.gg and using code GOONS for keeping it on your order. If you're onk, if you're chopped, if you were over the age of 25 and you were older... If you're TARDMAXING. If you were TARDMAXING, put some more IQ in you with GamerSubs.gg and use code GOONS for 10% off your order. And we've also partnered, if you feel a little smelly, if you feel a little gross, a little dirty, we've got a cheeky. Cheeky soap. Cheeky! It goes on your cheek. So, we've got our own bar of soap GamerGunk. We got it's bergamot with some ginger. Yup. And what else? Crisp apple. Yep. You get all the flavors. You want to smell like a delicious apple pie, then go to usecheeky.com and use... code GOONS. code GOONS, 10% off anything. I don't even... you can get any soap. And if any of them speak to you, then you can get them. I actually brought my cheeky soap with me to Boston. I rubbed my balls in a hotel room with cheeky soap. It was a good time. Well, you went to PAX, notably one of the most smelly, offensive to the nose conventions in the world. Oh, dude, awful. Me and actually... Oh, yeah. Me and Retrix were actually talking beforehand. And we were kind of like telling people about the convention that haven't been there before. And they were like, you know, is it worth going to? And I'm on the team of not really, honestly. Like, if you like... like weird obscure games, it's rad. But if you're looking for like a new fucking AAA title to be there, there's not going to be shit. And the people that go are strange. They're very strange. Well, let's say they're quirky and they're... They're quirky. Okay, TwitchCon is weird. But I think Twitch is like... like popular enough where there's normal people there that have nine to fives. Like, you know, there could be... You could bump into an accountant at TwitchCon. At TwitchCon. Okay, you wouldn't be shocked. You wouldn't expect them, but you wouldn't be shocked. There is not a single person with a normal nine to five that went to... That just goes to the taxis. For no reason. Like, they just... It's all just like the most bizarre versions of gamers. And I kind of love it. It's kind of hilarious. You think of pegs, it's not really like a gaming convention, Prusay. It's like a cultural convention with like all these different parts of fandoms and like influencers and like kind of indie games and shit events. Yeah, a lot of indie games. It is a cool event. It's just not for me. So that's why I was like when I was talking to my friends, I was like, I wouldn't go out of my way to go to it. But the reason I go to it and a lot of us go to it is to just do a little meetup and meet some of our... Meet some of our audience. Get to say hi, gamers. Audience spelled O-D-D-I-E-N-C-E. True. Game resubs was nice enough as always to lend their booth to all of us. So, gamer subs... Oh, G-Subs, huh? Yeah. They lent their booth to ourselves and our fans to do a little meetup and say hi to everyone. So, if you did come say hi to me, thank you very much. I appreciate you taking time into your busy day to come say hi. Tell us how much you enjoy our content. It always means a shit ton to me. I left with an entire genuine crate full of minions, paraphernalia. Yeah, it was too much stuff. I literally brought back like three things with me and then left the rest with gamer subs and they're like, yeah, we'll have to shit this game. We'll have to shit this game because it's too much. I would have had to get another suitcase. It was just too much minions shit. It's real sweet. Which is hilarious. That one's a few years old, but yeah, that was from a PAX. But then I got lots of little cool little trinkets and letters and drawings and paintings and all that cool stuff. What was one that you cherished the most? Cherished the most? Man, what was it? Whoa. Okay, these are from a few years ago, but I don't know if you can see. Those two guys right there. You can barely see them. Just a little color. Hold on to me. I unplugged my headphones. Hold on. I'm putting it in. These little guys, there's a frucket. There's a little fridge. There was also a dug one over there that I didn't grab. But these were the first things that somebody actually went out of their way and made me that wasn't just the simple drawing or a simple thing that they bought at a CVS before. It was the first time somebody made something custom specifically for me. I actually have a similar thing from a PAX ace. I think it was the first PAX ace I ever went to. Here, hold on. 2018? That was probably 2018. That's when I met Swags. Look at this. Oh, shit. Dude, that could have been from the same person. That's crazy. It's a clay. They're clay. They're little clay guys. I don't know if the art, I actually, I know I follow the artist on Twitter, but I cannot remember what their ad is, but I still do remember the person that made these. Yeah, they're awesome. I love it. We have some talented, talented artists. Yeah, people draw things and it's just, it's so cool. I don't know. I love that shit. It's great. Droid in Boston, I'm sure as you guys saw, about five thousand times. Broke his ankle, fractured his ankle in two spots. How did this happen? In some context, you were with the entire Clueless gang, which is... Mine is Chrissy, who was unable to make it. But we, so every year we rent out a bar. One specific bar we go to, I think I've talked about it before on the podcast. You get a 20-sided dice and you roll that 20-sided dice and each number is associated with a random cocktail that they serve. Yeah. So you get a little card. Yeah, you get a little card the first time you go and then we've been going over the years, so you roll it and slowly fill out your card. John was the first one to do the 20 drinks and he got a second 20 drink card. Bro. God damn. But yeah, it's really cool. It's fun, fun as far as... If you roll a 20, you see it like a super painful drink or if you roll like a one, it's like a quick failure. It's bullshit. I would make one, like if you roll the one, like a sloth. The worst, like a syringe or a size shunt. Okay, so by far the worst is number 15. It's called Spicy Bitch. It is... File. It is an undrinkable drink. Sovi got it for his first drink there. First one ever. This was his first time coming to pack, so Sovi got the Spicy Bitch off Rip and it is just the worst drink you can think of. It is so spicy and gross. Is it like one of those vodka that's like, up an arrow or is there a hull up in you or something? I don't know what exactly is in it. I hate those are so gross. Luckily when I got it, it was the last drink two years ago. It was the last drink I got of the night, so I was already fucking annihilated. That's the best way to do it, honestly. I sucked that thing back and I was like, that's not even that bad. And then I had a sip of somebody's this year and I was like, oh my god, I drank that? There's no way. It is vile. The worst point of a spicy drink is when you get the hiccups. Oh, absolutely. Or if you puke, that's even like your fuck-o-boing-boing. Fireball whiskey in college was my drink of choice. Loved it, always had it. It tasted like grandma's sweet cinnamon candy that she kept in her fucking, in her thing. Just like big red gum. Like big red gum. It was nice and nice cinnamon and flavorful and I would just have a shot after a shot. I remember getting so drunk on fireball whiskey and throwing up and going out of my nose as it was throwing up. Oh, that's fucked. It was like pepper sprayed. Literally like I was leaking out of every hole in my face. Literally every hole in my face was crying, I was snodding, I was drooling, I was throwing up. Have you guys ever had that flame and hot Mountain Dew? Do you remember that? What? It was like maybe like a year ago they had it. You never heard of that. The Mountain Dew of Flame and Hot. You're totally the guy who tried that. Oh, no. No, I always try it with whatever a new soda comes out of it. Flame and Hot Mountain Dew. If it's zero sugar I'm trying it. But it was, it's rough. They made a zero sugar version of a red hot Mountain Dew. In case you wanted, in case you wanted to be health conscious. Yeah, what is the point? Flame and Hot Mountain Dew. Somebody who's doing that, somebody who's drinking that does not care about their body. They're going to destroy it no matter what. Don't worry, this cyanide capsule is only 30 calories. Yeah, like actually what the fuck are you doing? Zero sugar cyanide. That's insane. But those like pepper flavored vodka and stuff, like I've seen like a Jalapeño one. I think I've seen like a Habanero one. Those are rough. Because it's like you take a drink. First of all, it doesn't taste very good because alcohol is gross. Second of all, it just burns. It's like what's the appeal? I don't, I got like eating hot stuff. Usually when you eat something hot, it's like it's good. You're eating like a taco or you know, some like some kind of like good hot sauce. But like taking a shot of Jalapeño vodka. Yeah, but it's like the alcohol burns and so does the spice. So it's like a Pokemon band. Double burn is better. You know, one will turn victorious. It's like a spice burn and then like a sensation burn. Yeah. And then if you had some shitty like like chemical flavoring, then you get like a chemical burn like kind of thing going on. It was like a three way. Yeah, not idea. Well, with the spicy bitch, it's so spicy that you actually can't taste the alcohol burn. So I don't know what it's in it, but it's awful. That's a life. No, if you ever want to drink a lot of alcohol in a short period of time, just get your friend to pepper spray you and then just take you basically. Yeah, it's basically like any pepper sprayed. Your eyes will water while you drink it, but uh, What was the back to droid? All right. So we went there. It was, uh, it was a God. It was a big ask her pretty much all of us that went to packs because we just rent out the whole bar. So we're all in there. Uh, pasta came and said hi first time, like really getting to hang out with pasta and her boyfriend. Dude. Yeah. A fucking hilarious. Love that. Yeah. Yeah, they're a super good energy. Yeah, they're fucking hilarious. But, um, so that was super cool. Then, um, yeah, got drunk. Then we, we did the old Boston tradition. Uh, go to, you know, there's another bar area. Go there, say hi to random strangers. And, uh, then we, we went to yield, yield cop slide. Cops. Oh, the cop slide. Have you ever seen the video of the. Oh, they're going down the slide. Oh, are you talking about like the insanely dangerous metal slide that was built on a playground? But like if you go down the slide, you accelerate to like extremely unsafe. Okay. Yeah, it's not that bad. I have been, I've gone down that slide every year since 2017 and I have never shot out of it like that cop did. I don't know what that boy was wearing. Okay. But all his gray loot fell on the ground and he had like very lubricated. Yeah. Editor, please for the sake of context, play the clap slide video right here. Yes. You can play the cop slide video. He comes down, dude. He's, he's, he's like on his front. I don't even understand how he does it. He's like, he loses his walkie talkie. Like loses his gray loot. His pepper spray like all spills out. It's like he starts spinning while he's inside the. I know. It's so weird. Like he got shot. I was like, it's like something was other than the shots down real fast. Yeah. He had to, or he had to like get a running start. I don't know what he did, but anyway, we go there every time we get drunk and the, there's, there's always like 15 other people there that are also fucking hammered and it's hilarious. It's two AM. Everyone's having a good time and there was this guy. He first of all, it was fucking freezing out and he had like nothing but a button up shirt and like fucking khakis on. He bashed him. And there's this, we, we went down the slide again. No big deal. We even went down backwards like the cop did and droid was fucking on me essentially. And then I think it was so V behind it was a whole mess. We were fucking, I don't know. We all thought it'd be a good idea to go down together or whatever. But when we got to the bottom, droid saw this spinny thing. It's almost like a little like ropey, climbing triangle fucking thing, but it spins. Oh, is it? The hands are wounded. I don't even know how to describe it. Like a, like a, like a healthy skeleton. Let me find a. It's like a bunch of ropes that you hold on to and it goes around the circle. Yeah. And it's kind of like, I don't know what they call it. I don't know what they call it. Really bird. I don't know. I don't even know what the, I actually hold on. There's a picture of droid looking at it on his Twitter. I can just grab that. I think it's a whistle, a whistle, a biscuit. Oh yeah. Whistle, a biscuit. Whistle, a damn whistling. I know he wrote. All right. Here, I'll just drop this photo of droid looking at the very thing that did it. And we ended up. Oh, that thing. I don't even know. I don't know what to call that thing. That's a midget in front of a normal size basketball hoop. That's what you're looking at. Yeah. What the fuck? It looks like a thing to catch like frisbee disc golf. Yeah, I know. I don't know what it is, but it spins. Long story short, it spins. It's meant for children. And we saw this guy, he was holding on to the very top bar and he was spinning and that motherfucker was legit vertical. He was like, or like horizontal, I should say. He was completely horizontal spinning in the air. His friend was ripping him and then Tyler went in like Wildcat and he started ripping the guy even faster and the guy let go and I was filming and I have a photo of this guy. He literally is like completely flat in the air and you just see him fucking like reaching out to God as he flies off this thing. He fell, smashed his face off the ground, tanked it, got back up. Oh my Lord. Droid saw all of this and thought that looks like a blast. So Droid went on and he was grabbing it and somebody else spun it and then I spun it and then he let go and he landed and it did not look bad at all. And like it genuinely looked completely fine. Like I watched him land and I turned around and started talking to somebody else because it was so like Monday. Yeah, nonchalant. He just landed on his feet. He laughed. Everyone was good. And that was it. I was like, all right, cool. Talk to somebody else. We sat there for like another 20 minutes, dicking around. I didn't see where Droid went so I didn't know what happened. And then I walked back to our hotel with Anthony, Big Jiggly Panda and we get there and I just see Droid being dragged by Pessie and Caleb through the lobby. I was like, yo, what the fuck? He's like, dude, I think my ankle like is a little bit bruised. He pulls up his pants. It looked like a softball, like a purple softball. Oh, dude, I was like, yeah, man, that doesn't look good. I'm sure he'll be all right. I knew he wasn't going to be all right, but I was like, whatever. Fuck it. Yeah, you eat that. You're good. Break a leg. So I went to bed and then in the morning, Puffer calls me because I was, he was, I was supposed to go with them to the meetup and Puffer's like, yeah, I don't think Droid's going to make it. He's in the ER. And I was like, oh fuck, like what happened? He's like, bro, what do you mean what happened? Like you spun him, bro. I was like, what? He found no Droid fractures ankle in two places when he landed. So his shit was clapped. Yeah. So he showed up to the meetup halfway through in crutches. He literally came from the hospital. He's such a fucking trooper dude. He could have made everyone's trip miserable as fuck. He could have been complaining and being a bitch the whole time. He did everything. He like the only thing he skipped was one dinner the night after like the meetup because he's like, dude, I'm in too much pain, which is like, yeah, bro, fair enough. But he showed up to the meetup. It was fucking hilarious. He was, he was an absolute rock star. So let's go. Yeah. It was rough though. W Droid. W. Yeah. It was a little bad ankle, but W attitude. Oh yeah. Droid has, dude, he's got the best energy ever. I don't know. That guy is so fucking fun to be around. There'll be a while. I'll see an old, old clip of like when he used to play siege with us. I'm like, oh, we used to play with your other completely forget about that. Yeah. Dude, have you heard me and droids war before? Huh? Have you heard me and droids lore? Like our friend lore? Well, so I was streaming PUBG with Durga. And I think we're at about 2000 subscribers at this point. And I was streaming on YouTube and Durga's like, do you mind if I invite a guy? And I was like, yeah, sure. And Durga didn't tell me that he knew this guy. Like that he was like, that he was like a friend. So I thought Durga was inviting like a fan, like a viewer into our session. And I enjoyed was here for like five minutes. And he was so hyper and have it so much fun. I messaged Durga. He was like, bro, maybe don't invite fans ever again. It's just droid. And I was like, by the end of the session, we played for like two hours with them. And at the end I was like, all right, actually, this guy's really fucking funny. But yeah, the first time I met droid, I thought he was just a weird little fan that just asked to play with us. It was so funny. Yeah. He was good at it. He was a good guy. Yeah. Yeah. I pushed him around in a wheelchair the whole last night. My flight got canceled. So yeah. Let's just recover. We covered memes on Twitter the other day. Yeah. We ordered every time. Uh, six to eight weeks. So hopefully he's good for Japan. It's like right on the cusp. So we'll see. But uh, yeah, we wanted to go for a walk. Wanted to take him back to the park after his incident. We wanted to wanted him to meet the man that hurt the other leg. So fucking right at Retrix ordered him a wheelchair while we were at dinner and the restaurant like helped us unbox it and like to drag it to the back room. Do we do a door dash it with the phone? We literally Uber eats the fucking Uber eats the wheelchair. I asked for a vegetable. I only got the wheelchair. I got that. I got what's left of a man. Yeah, but we didn't know it was one of the transporting ones. We thought he'd have his own wheels, but he didn't have his own wheels. So I had to drag him around the whole night. I had to go to the gym. No, he couldn't reach. I had to drag him around. Dude, it literally looked like I fucking stole a homeless guy in the grandma. It looked like I just grabbed a random homeless dude off the streets of Boston and just had him. We were passing all sorts of friends for him, but they were they didn't have anyone pushing them. They were they were they were a little more sad than he was. Damn. Oh, yeah, it's good time. Is there another tax or is Pax only in one place per year? There's like Pax West or Prime. I think it's called it's in Seattle. Then there used to be a Pax South, but I think they just stopped doing that. Honestly, I just go to love Boston. They have Pax Australia if you want to come. Oh, they do. That's right. They do have that. Usually around the same time as Twitch crime in San Diego, which, you know, if I was going to choose one of the other, I'd probably go to San Diego. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, I'm probably that's in October, right? I think it's in October. Yeah, yeah, I definitely want to go to that. Yeah, Twitch gone's kind of fun sometimes compared to Pax. I've never been to a convention before. It's more of like a purposeful you've never been to a convention. Neither of us. What the fuck? This is fun because I just want to go because like preface revealed me. I was like, I didn't even meet people and blah, blah, blah. Now I was just a pussy back then like literally fuck old me. Right? Back then. Yeah. Yeah. Pussy back then. Now I'm a big strong man. Look at these guns. Look at the guns. Look at them trash. Fucking trash. Look at you guys. Bro's got a fat dude cowboy out now. Now he's flexing on us. Oh no. You call it absolute fucking shit. We should have never let Chad McNasty take over. Man, bring back Chud. Bring back Chud. Bring back Chud. Mick Chudgy. Mick Chuddy. Yeah, no, but uh, dude, meeting fans. It was a great time. It's one of my favorite points of the job is going to convention and 99% of the people we meet are so rad. I have yet to meet like a weird, like I went to the slack job show last year, the weird dude, they meet you and go back. I was weird. And they go, oh fuck, I'm a fan of this guy. I never, never meet your heroes. Damn. You mean the guy that just says big black horse pussy in the middle of a session. I was wiping my ass on the brewery that's super. I was just. Hey guys, wait a minute. Oh my fucking. I'm really big fan of you. I'm really big fan of you. I just stuck my finger in my ass. I can use that to like sign people shit. Yeah. In your belly button, you use your, you use your belly button jam to sangrige. Belly button jam. I was, uh, no, it was a slack job show. It was sick as fuck. It was super, super fucking dope. But I will say that soup said there was weird energy. Weird God. I think it's mostly because like there wasn't very many people there. Apparently that was like his smallest show. And it kind of makes sense because where he was at, he was in kind of like the outskirts of the town. It was called San Luis Obispo, which is like a, it's weird because it's a big like party college town. So I thought it was going to be packed, but he was like, yeah, it's like a, it's like a, it's a beach city. Where is it? Right north of like Pismo Beach. I don't know what that is. You're just making things up now. It's like two hours north. Two or three hours north of LA. Pismo Beach. You got to drink too much beer. Now I got Pismo. It's like two hours of whole beach. It's just a, okay. I thought I was having a stroke. It's like a whatever beach, not anything crazy, but yeah, it's San Luis Obispo. I think it's Cal Poly. I think that's like the big college around that area. What the fuck are you saying? What are these places? Stop saying the same thing. None of this happened. None of this happened. Everyone in California is Polly, I get it, but where was it? It was Polly technically. No Polly's sexual. They were technically Polly. They're made of plastic polymers. It's a big college town, so I thought it was going to be like a bigger event, but he was, he was playing in a brewery called Humdinger, which is kind of funny because like, that's just like a goon. That's just like a goon's word. I feel like I said Humdinger. I feel like I talked about my beers. I got a big old Humdinger. I've said that. I feel like you say that when you shoot a rope. Humdinger. Yeah, that too. So he posted a picture with me and then captioned it. Humdinger. I feel like people didn't really understand what that meant. He just said Humdinger. I thought he smelled hamburger wrong when I was. One double Humdinger and fries. Double cheese Humdinger. Yeah. Humdinger. You should have seen one in the burger. Yeah, it was like on the outskirts and just kind of in like a more rural location. And there's a lot of people there. I liked it. I don't really go to much concerts, so it's like, you know, it's kind of newer for me and I got to see him. Did you just go in and just like fucking crush people? No, no, there was a lot of people there. No, no, there was there was like mosh pits and stuff, but I was kind of staying away from it. If I was in my early 20s, I'd probably be down, but I'm a little fart now. I'm a little big. I just I just watched side stage. I mean, it's also just fun to watch them actually perform. Because like, I'm so used to just like it being, you know, soup. Yeah, but when you kind of actually stand back and be like, they are just objectively good musicians that put on a really cool like live show. It just, I don't know. It just I like approaching it from a perspective of just like watching cool music. So I go hang out on the side rather than in the crowd or anything. How how how are like, how is the audience energy those shows? Are the mosh pits like super crazy? Oh, they're like, are people are people doing like these or they going through like hit a worm please? Yes. Yeah, exactly that. There was a dude doing it. There was a guy doing like Roadhouse kicking like he was like, he was. Yeah. Yeah. And he like got up on the stage and like jumped up into the crowd and yeah. The spin kick your grandma to beat people go crazy with in the mosh pit. Yeah, they're they're nuts. But I think what soup was trying to get at mostly is just there wasn't a lot of people there and like there was kind of like just some people standing around like looking at their phone kind of just like half ass paying attention. That's weird. Very dumb. I didn't go. There was a guy with like a lighter up. It's like, this is a free bird dude. Like this is like. But yeah, it was it was pretty sick. Like right when the show ended, like fucking 40 people walked up to me like sign shit. And I think it's because soup like why also posted on my story that I was going to be there but soup like in the middle of the show. He said, McNasty, I can't remember exactly why he said that. But yeah, then like a bunch of people turn around. I think it was right before the show started. That's right. I saw me and but it was pretty sick like signing a bunch of stuff and taking pictures. Yeah, there was this little girl. You've never really had a chance to do that yet. If you have never been to convention or anything, you've never got the chance to meet like a substantial amount of people that know who you are once. It's really overwhelming, but really cool. I've met like random people here and there since I did face reveals in my town. Yeah, like I got approached at like a bar a couple times and there was a guy driving. He noticed my truck and we like pulled over and went to like the gas station and took a picture together and talked about the cars and stuff, which is pretty sick. Yeah, the show was the show was my first taste of like person after person being like, can you sign this? Yeah, it's awesome, man. It's such a cool feeling. But I remember you're like people's stories and shit about your content or like if they met someone, yeah, they like it's so cool. And like, oh, you inspired me all this kind of stuff. And I specifically remember this little tiny girl. She had to have been like five foot and she was like, you're all walled in you. I just my grandmother ankle just flung around like a Chihuahua. But speaking of Chihuahua, she like I put my arm around her when she would take a picture and she was literally like so whatever she was like vibrating. I was like, I was like, you got to calm down. Like I'm just a dude. I'm just a guy. That or the love sense going crazy. That's insane. My favorite is like a lot of the time at packs and stuff to get the like line moving more efficiently will take their phones and like take a photo usually because there's a table in between will take the photo because like there's so many times we're like the fan of like, oh no, I'll take it whatever. And yeah, and you just see and you like you could see it. You can see how blurry it is. They keep trying. They don't want to be a bother. They're so polite. So like, no, no, it's okay. Like it turned out good and you're like, I can see it. It's okay. It's just one week and take a photo. It's not a big deal. Like we have enough time for you. I was like, I didn't do all the photos for me. Like he would take a picture. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's funny is I actually did that night. I actually hung out with one of the fans I met there. He was like, he was wearing like a little like sleep token gear and. Oh, no, the worst kind. So we like talked about that a little bit. And he was like really cool dude. And then like at the end of the, at the end of the show, um, he like asked me, he's like, what are you guys doing with the rest of the night? I was like, we're probably going to go to, you know, it's like, there's a strip on San Luis Obispo. It's just like a bunch of bars and like clubs and stuff. And, uh, yeah, I was like, we're going to go do that. And he's like, oh, shit. And I was like, yeah, you seem like a cool dude. You can come on. There's a one that we fucking drank with them on. He got super drunk. And he like puked in front of the restaurant. And he was like, I would never do that. I would never tell a fan to come drink with me, but that's kind of sick. He seemed like a really good energy about him. And then it was like proven right. Cause he was just, he was just chill dude. He was there to like have fun. But he did get super fucked up. And he did. He did throw a little bit. We've had that go wrong a few times over the years. So we've, we've learned to not. It's definitely not something I'm like going to do all the time. It is. It's a gamble. You never know. You ever know what their intentions are? Like I can never, you know, I used to have fans give me like weed and like joints and shit. I can't, I can't smoke. I wouldn't consume anything a fan. You know, even if it's like, Hey dude, you know, I have this for you. And it's like, unless it's like a pre-rule in packaging that's sealed and even then I'm like, you know, this fucking asshole puts the Alvi in it. Like, what, what, you know, what do you never know? He wants to, you know, you're 20 years old. He wants another podcast tour. He wants a fun one. Yeah. Watch an entire family. Assume the worst. Like you just, yeah. You never know. Somebody just wants to be a dick. Well, you know, you never know. Back when I was filming the Misfits podcast three or four years ago, like on location at the Misfits house, I remember we got doxed like people found out where the house was. And right before we were about to film a podcast, some dude knocked on the door and we open it up. We're like, is it Uber Eats? Is it, you know, who the hell could this be? And it was a random guy with a cake that he had baked. He made a cake and he was so nervous as soon as Fitz opened the door. He was, um, I, um, I, I, I really like, um, you guys are really good. And I like you guys. And here's the cake. And we were like, oh, okay. So, just so, dude, you might as well have been, he was, he was that, he was tremoring so bad giving us this cake. And he gave us a pack of Lamingtons too, which are like little, like sponge cakes covered in chocolate and coconut. Um, that was the Lamingtons were in packaging. So we ate those, but we were like, look, man, we can't accept your cake. We can't eat your cake. Yeah, what the fuck? Also, bro, you showed up to my house like, put it in the fucking attic. Yeah, that is weird. Yeah, it was very nice of him, but also at the same time, not, Right in tension is wrong idea. Yeah, wrong education of the correct attention. Yeah. It was a beautiful cake. It was a shame that we couldn't eat it fucking. Half of us wanted to eat it. The other half for like this is not a good idea, dude. No, that's a bad idea. You should have like, should have done something funny with it just so we still got gratification. Just like smash it in front of you. Yeah, you see, you fucking on the podcast, you like punch it and then it turns out there's a bunch of razor blades in it. Just cut your arm open. Yeah, you like smash it in your face. Maybe best just not. Maybe just a little pencil. You just push it into your face. Yeah, but your needles. Yeah. Man, but that's the thing you never know. It's like people like artists. Well, I wasn't a little peep who fucking took a like a Xanax from a, like a pill from it from his fan and he fucking died and is kind of. Yeah, it was kind of that. It was something like that. Someone gave him a laced thing. There's like a fan that it became friends with. Yeah. But no pills, no powders will solve that problem. Also don't eat the cake. Don't eat the cake. It has Xanax cake. It's hard to tell me that, dude. I know someone on the issue a whole cake. Yeah, I'm a cake guy. So people have been doing half cake. Yeah, half cake. You'd have to keep still eating cake, but not the whole thing. See, that's the trick. That's the balance of life. It's about enjoying the things you want in moderation that allow you to still achieve your goals. Soon you'll be the slice of cake guy and then you'll be the cake pop guy. You'll be the cake pop guy. No, I think you stop at slice of cake guy. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you don't go to the place of cheesecake factory cheesecake. Because that's just like 1700 gallons. Yeah, then then maybe don't get maybe just don't get that ever at any point. Is it really dense? Yeah, it's the Oreo one. Oreo dream team cake. They should send that into space to survival food. Yeah, really? Dude, you could start a space colony based off that thing. Man, what the fuck? Yeah, it is very cool. When you think about cheesecake, literally all it is is fat and a fucked ton of sugar. Like both things that are super duper cool. It's pretty good. You say that like a bad thing. Delicious, but as far as like it's cream cheese, butter, sugar and salt. Like in lock in as gas. Oh, I love I love cheesecake. Those are the only that's the only sweets I like. I like cheesecake and birthday cake other than that. I don't give a fuck like I really love our chocolate. No, I don't care about any of that early. Cake. For me, though, a chocolate cake. A high tier. Yes, sir. Yes. Yes. Chocolate chip cookies are fucking Tyler. Maybe. Chocolate chip cookies are banging. Yeah, I want to hear these. So Tyler made a controversial tweet and I'm curious about your opinions. I have mine, but I'm curious what you guys think. So he Wildcat tweeted that he hates flaky salt on chocolate chip cookies. What's your what's your vibes too much of it throws it all out of equilibrium, but a small little dusting is good for texture and it's good to enhance the sweetness of the chocolate. I like it's better if it's better if it's on something that has dark chocolate. Yes, okay. It's way, way better if it's salted caramel. It's like a caramel chocolate cookie. Yeah, okay. But I mean, I can live with millions of chocolate so we all fuck with the salt. Yeah, it's good. I had a chocolate chip cookie. I wouldn't go out of my way to open the cupboard to retrieve the salt to put it on the cookie to enhance it. Exactly. Someone gave me a chocolate chip cookie with salt already on it. I go, oh, what a treat. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I he started a whole fucking thing. There was a lot of people. He is known for his for his unique takes. Yeah. Get a little kind of. Yeah, Tyler's got some some some takes about Tyler Wildcat. He's entitled to his opinions. Okay, the man is entitled to his opinions. You know, doesn't mean that he's wrong. He just means that he, that he, that he feels differently. That's to be right. We can talk about our differences without differences. Yeah, we could all I can talk about how we like flake. I mean, I'm worried that well, I'm just worried that his daughter is going to grow up anti salt on cookies and then like they've made a whole other generation of people who are wrong and that's weird. Yeah, we need to snuff this out now. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. You need to make sure the grub, which is what he refers to his child as does not does not adopt his takes. Yeah, it's really funny. We have the we have the same Japanese teacher and sometimes when when Tyler and Kelly take Japanese, you know, they have they have the child with them and I'll be like, oh, I was less than before. He's like, oh, I had Tyler Kelly in the grub and she like hates saying it because she feels so like that she feels like she's being yeah, being rude. But like that's what they call her. It's a good it's a good way to describe your newborn baby is a grub. Yeah, grubbed up. Grubbed up fucking grubby turd pants. It's kind of it's kind of how like little babies appear. You know, they they you know how like a grub has like the folds. Yeah, babies. No, it's just a fat little baby. There's a big fat stupid baby and they're fucking their skull isn't even all fused together. It's still in place. They got tectonic plates. Eat a baby. I mean, they don't even have the membrane at the back of their neck yet that keeps their head up straight. That's why I like if you shake babies, that's why they just fucking like they don't get all jumbled up. I don't have the membrane that holds their neck straight up. Do you remember that video of Bear Girls eating a grub? That was a gross video. Yeah, that should pop pops like a zane. Oh, that is Dennis math and then he like they don't taste bad. It's like the I've been being said, I've never tasted one. So I don't know why I'm a Viver. I hear that they taste like butter. I've heard that it tastes like shrimp and crab. None of those things are bad. I can eat butter shrimp and like butter crab, but eating like an animal or a thing and I bite into it and it tastes like butter crab. Dude, I think it would be shit. I think it would be the being and it works in my mouth. You know, I think of the pop. I think it tasting like really gooey ducks. They just huh. Oh, the GEO. Oh, the things that look like cars. Yeah, I see a Chinese woman jerking one of those off on Instagram all the time. Yeah, like the super wet clan. How else are you going to get the soul out around? Is that what it is? So water just little water. I thought it was like their their blood or something. I think maybe just a really wet season. They're just super horny. You eat the pops. It's me nice everybody. If you are also super horny and you and you want to get some energy, then go to gamer sub San Gigi and get to fucking go to gamer subs. That Gigi use code goons Gio and ice gooning or 10% off your order. If you want to bust a big fan night and have the energy to recover and do it again, then go to goons gamer subs and Gigi so first-generation goons. And let's say that you take us all musty from all that gooning. Go to use cheeky dot com forward slash goons. I really want to hit an hour damn 10% off your order. Game resups and use cheeky. It's really good. Have I ever told you guys about the grub bottle? The grub bottle? Yeah. When I was a kid, my parents in the spring, they had torn up the grass because a lot of the grass died. Probably from the grubs, but they tore up their grass. So it's just dirt and when they were tearing up the grass, there was grubs everywhere. So I took a water bottle and I just started putting grubs in the water bottle and I closed the grub bottle up and I left it in the garage. And this was probably in like May. And I forgot about it and it kind of sat there for a while. And my mom found it. I want to say it was like August or something and the water bottle had like doubled in size because of all of the gases from decomposition from the grubs. And the bottom half was was a liquid. There was no longer there's no longer a solid grub in there. The bottom half was just like if you shook it, it was like like it was. Oh my God. File. So my mom's like, we should probably just throw that out. And I said, yeah, I'm probably taking a good idea. That's a good idea. We'll throw that out. We should put it in the garbage. My friend came over and I was like, we're going to open it. So I got it out of the garbage and we opened it. Dude, my garage smelled like absolute fucking shit for like weeks. Because of the grub bottle. It was I'm surprised. I'm surprised I didn't die in something. There's we didn't we didn't have a garage door open. We like opened it at night. No ventilation. You're just now Huffin grub fumes with the grub. It was like it's like smelling so I think I'd still be high or I would have died instantly. I don't know what you would have become the grub. Probably created. It would have just been on the ground wriggling around. Would let you out like the grub version of fendt leaning. I would have just per I would have grubbed up forever. It's would have been on like Kensington Avenue grubbed up. It's fucked up how this reminds me that I had like a fly problem in my backyard. There was just a ton of flies like like too many too many fucking flies that were going around and being annoying. So we got like a fly trap. It's that you put like some special bullshit in at the bottom and you mix it with water and the flies are attracted to it. And so it works so well after the first day I go outside and this thing is like this big it's like as big as this game yourself is that GG water. It's completely it's filled halfway to the to the like Brem with with flies. You really got a fly problem then. And I'm like oh my God this is so gross. This fucking nasty. I'll check on this tomorrow and I check on it the next day and I see that it's even more full. It's three quarters of the way full and then the first layer is filled with grubs like maggots that were on these flies like the flies that they were done smell like and so the maggots were hatching and then they were eating the dead flies that were at the bottom and then they get suffocated by the flies on top and then like more flies would go in and I like dude I got you know I maybe smoked a joint to my face and looked at this for a solid 15 minutes how like these maggots are being birthed into existence amongst like like a giant corpse pile of their other parents and like siblings and then they have to eat their way out into nothing to and then they just die and then like they I'm thinking myself like this is a perfect representation of like how I've literally created an environment of hell like a small pocket of hell like in in my backyard that all these little things that are existing are like coming into existence and having a horrible time then and they're dying and it made me think they have the conscious to like understand no I'm pretty sure they're just like I'm Megan let's see okay because they're like why are they Spanish run in the sphere through the one you guys ever seen I mean swagger first of all what a what a what an incredible journey you went on a little bit that's I can't say I felt that deep about the no I literally just like shook it around yeah yeah you gotta be still at that point I'd be fucking retarded I was like the 12 years old man I get to like you know all this bug you know when I die I'm gonna like be reincarnated as this bug so I'm gonna like move it out saying I'm gonna squash it you know yeah I mean that's a good press I just night like not watching the bugs if you don't have any like you know if I punch this guy in the face and be reincarnated this guy I'm gonna punch myself in the face that would suck so we're sitting there kind of funny though we're gonna say helicopters what are you saying he's talking about helicopters sitting there mumbling like universe oh yeah I don't know what was I gonna say what was I talking about no grub is a grub bottle I don't know anybody's noticed what his eyes are out where they are like I drop my nuts on each eyeball just give me the Mexican sunglasses baby that's what that is you know you can look through your sack and you put each a knot on each eyeball of the lady that was kind of like well do you remember when the Mexican news showed testicles during the solar eclipse yeah I think that's where it came from you think so you have to look through the scrotum and protect your way if you do it backwards yeah so you can look at the eclipse if you do it backwards the Spartan helmet it's the whole it's the whole it's the whole it's the whole eclipse this part now that is crazy yeah we made a song we did right we did I I did nothing we made a song I did nothing all I did all I did was pretty swaggered goons era when we started that oh this was pretty a lot of things this was like this was like 311 this was 20 for me I don't even think we knew Epstein was real yeah no he wasn't born yet I think I think Jesus had just come back or something it's been a while but yeah we finally did it people there's there's you know most people like it there's some people who are like they're wrong but it's okay they like some people some people are like two years for this okay yeah that was a problem we kind of did like we fucked ourselves over in the same way like Frank Ocean has you know we we created I would like our last project such a such a beautiful piece you know we really we really all came together and showed our musical prowess with yo ho so they really you know that was our blonde by Frank Ocean so when I was our magamalapus yeah when we took years and years it set such a such a high expectation that even if we released a perfect project it could never be we could never meet the expectation how how long did yo ho take um an hour not that long did you read the title jackass no yo ho was yo was probably like eight hours I think we got on twice for four hours yeah yeah it was about eight hours okay well this one was in the gravy was a little bit shorter and this one was two years four hundred and this one was like this one we started in 2024 for some reason just nobody was we were never all around at the same time to do it yeah it just makes sense though because like if like people are a lot more busy now like you know soup has his band he's on tour so like you know bar travel a lot I feel like back then we always we had like more free time I don't think it was that I think it was more like dude like alright guys yeah dude be like alright guys drunk driving next week and we'd be like yeah sure everyone's down and then we'd all forget about drunk driving next week and we'll just record a normal session or something and then do be like guys now that we just finished our session drunk driving next week it's like yeah absolutely it's finished up and it was 418 days of that essentially yeah I remember coming on the podcast and you guys talking about hey drunk driving next week and me being so confused thinking that you guys were going planning on drinking and driving that did happen that did happen to be clear but yeah if you don't I did I have done that yeah yeah yep if you're an audio listener or even a video listener and you're driving right now don't drink unless unless you really really stressed out and you just need to take the edge off a little bit but only a little bit not don't have to give you two hands you're not supposed to one for beer or you could do two beers car on auto pilot he got a modern but don't actually drunk drive I was in a I was in a drunk driving accident literally like in December told me I thought about on the package he talked about it on the podcast my mirror I forget everything on all the points and my friend drank a bunch of beer and then we were staying over a house and he woke me up at 3 in the morning be like hey I'm sober let's go home I was like are you sure yeah I need to go home and I hit the car it's like a 10 minute yes 10 minutes down the road and he's veering off of the fucking road and he just smashes his mirror he's signed me a mirror and do another car is parked that's so bad and I and I'm like practically standing up in my seat going Jesus Christ what the fuck and then he's like what what did you notice yeah I was like what do you need what your fucking mirror is going he goes no it isn't I go look and it was going it was completely gone it's completely fucking god don't do that shit so don't do that for your own life that was a fucking mistake and I fucking trust you so anyway we'll never trust again to drive me home if you can't realize that we're like shitting on it and it's like a jpe then yep you already started you already hard yes if you can't see that there isn't a song written in irony I don't know how to tell you yard but yeah it was only only time it'll take you two years to do it give you enough time to think about it yeah I found it funny like how at the end of the second session we essentially had the song and then for some reason when we came back it was like half of it just no longer existed so we kind of like we have to restart anything but like I didn't have any of the files anymore because I remember I already had a second verse and I had no idea where it went that's the problem because we took like a year and a half break so we came back like how do we finish this shit yeah like your voice sounded different my voice sounded different soup always sounds exactly the same but yeah yeah like I don't know we we should probably get them done sooner than two years are you are you gonna do another one anytime soon yes thousand absolutely oh yeah I want it we want to do it through a flow style one I think we're gonna break away from metal we've done to me we've done we need to move on I think I think eventually we might have a whole album eventually I mean we perfected the metal genre so I think it's time to move on and perfect the different genre we go into like hip-hop or B free-form jazz maybe maybe something there's no genre that's gonna be safe alternative progressive rock maybe a little bit a little bit of mathy midwest emo in there yeah we can't fun complex time signatures I mean think about it that's gonna there's 24 hours in a day that's a guarantee we could get an album done in like half the day true no that's like a double album you double you did the whole day all the way through mm-hmm think about how many albums we can do in a week we're so efficient so cool a couple it'd be fair metal was the worst idea for us to do even though all of us enjoy like making it it takes objectively so much longer than something like hip-hop or some shit like that is because we have to record a real instrument flow song and actually like almost an hour I think we could actually do it an hour I think the hardest part would be writing lyrics that are creative yeah the beat I'm quite good at being a point good at the yeah maybe can we walk in the poop flow popular anyway so I think you listen to the goons podcast hopefully hopefully our next song will be as good to listen to as this podcast and as good to taste as gamers upset Gg use code goons for 10% off your order or maybe if you're feeling a little fucking if you're feeling stinky and fucking gross they do I smell like sweaty and go and after that go to your sticky dot com or slash game or gunk it is Chris may be beautiful bergamot and of course some ginger some Christian you're up in that bitch be fresh be energized to be well and stay good thanks for listening