Marcello Hernandez (IN STUDIO): New SNL Intersects Old Skool
72 min
•Feb 5, 20264 months agoSummary
Dana Carvey and David Spade interview SNL cast member Marcello Hernandez about his rapid rise in comedy, his Netflix special, and his experience transitioning from SNL to broader entertainment opportunities. The conversation covers sketch comedy craft, character development, financial planning for young entertainers, and the unique pressures of performing at major events like the Grammys.
Insights
- New comedians need to demonstrate their comedic angle early (through auditions, office interactions, or specific bits) before writers will invest in creating material for them, rather than waiting passively for opportunities
- Physical comedy and musicality combined create a potent performance tool that differentiates comedians and makes content more memorable and shareable across platforms
- Young entertainers should prioritize building passive income streams early to avoid financial vulnerability and maintain creative independence, rather than spending earnings on lifestyle inflation
- The transition from SNL to solo touring requires careful material development—rushing specials before material is fully tested can limit future touring potential and audience connection
- Immigrant and working-class parents often prioritize character and family values over protecting children from comedy material about their lives, viewing real-world hardship as more consequential than jokes
Trends
Rise of Latino representation in mainstream comedy and SNL, with increased focus on culturally specific material and charactersTikTok and Instagram-first content creation as viable entry point to entertainment careers, bypassing traditional gatekeepersPhysical comedy and character work gaining renewed prominence in sketch and stand-up as differentiation in oversaturated comedy marketYounger comedians leveraging multiple revenue streams (content creation, writing, coaching, touring) before securing major platform dealsGrammy Awards and major award shows becoming performance opportunities for emerging comedians and entertainers, not just established starsStreaming specials (Netflix, HBO) becoming primary comedy distribution model, with multiple filming attempts to capture best performanceLatin music and reggaeton gaining mainstream cultural dominance, influencing comedy material and audience demographicsComedy clubs and smaller venues remaining essential for material development despite social media reach and streaming deals
Topics
SNL Cast Member Career DevelopmentSketch Comedy Writing and Character DevelopmentStand-Up Comedy Material Testing and RefinementNetflix Comedy Specials ProductionLatino Representation in Mainstream ComedyFinancial Planning for Young EntertainersPhysical Comedy and Musicality in PerformanceGrammy Awards Performance OpportunitiesContent Creation on TikTok and InstagramComedy Club Touring StrategyPassive Income and Wealth BuildingMentorship in Comedy (Lorne Michaels Leadership)Sketch Comedy Bombing and RecoveryCharacter Impressions and Recurring RolesTransition from SNL to Solo Career
Companies
Netflix
Marcello Hernandez released his comedy special 'American Boy' on Netflix; discussed as primary distribution platform ...
Saturday Night Live (SNL)
Primary employer and platform for Marcello Hernandez; discussed extensively regarding cast dynamics, writing process,...
HBO
Sarah Sherman has a comedy special on HBO, mentioned as competing network for comedy special distribution
Gap
Source of the $19 crew neck sweater that Marcello borrowed from David Spade at SNL photo shoot; now discontinued
Costco
Referenced in anecdote about Marcello's mother buying deviled eggs in bulk from Costco for neighborhood events
American Airlines
Marcello flew American Airlines from New York to Los Angeles after SNL and Grammy Awards performance
The Comedy Store
Los Angeles comedy venue where Marcello and the hosts performed and worked on material together
The Wilbur Theatre
Boston comedy venue where Marcello is performing multiple shows (six to eight nights) while still on SNL
University of Florida
Marcello performing comedy show at Gainesville campus as part of touring schedule
Grammy Awards
Major awards show where Marcello presented and attended after-parties, networking with established artists like Queen...
People
Marcello Hernandez
Guest discussing his rapid rise in comedy, Netflix special, and transition from SNL to broader entertainment career
Dana Carvey
Co-host conducting interview; former SNL cast member mentoring Marcello and discussing comedy career trajectory
David Spade
Co-host conducting interview; former SNL cast member who lent sweater to Marcello at SNL photo shoot
Lorne Michaels
SNL leadership discussed regarding mentorship approach, character selection, and decision-making about cast material
Queen Latifah
Encountered by Marcello at Grammy Awards; spoke Spanish to him and complimented his Latino representation on SNL
Sarah Sherman
Performed in Church Lady sketch with Marcello and David Spade; has HBO comedy special; attended comedy shows with Mar...
Christopher Walken
Encountered by David Spade at SNL 50 photo shoot; discussed as example of established actor who paints
Olivia Dean
Won Grammy Award at ceremony Marcello attended; described as emerging artist with elegant stage presence
James Austin Johnson
Mentioned as alternative casting option for Domingo character; discussed regarding character work on SNL
Sebastian Maniscalco
Discussed extensively as model for physical comedy and character development; influenced Marcello's performance style
Gilbert Gottfried
Toured with Marcello; remembered for impressions, candy consumption, and dry delivery; recently deceased
Kevin Hart
Mentioned as having upcoming movie with Marcello; example of established comedian in film projects
Karol G
Presented at Grammy Awards with Marcello; example of major Latin artist gaining mainstream success
Bill Murray
Mentioned as SNL legacy; referenced in anecdote about seat fillers at SNL 50 event
Tina Fey
Mentioned as potential SNL successor to Lorne Michaels; early guest on Fly on the Wall podcast
Adam Sandler
Early guest on Fly on the Wall podcast; example of SNL alumni maintaining connection to show
Chevy Chase
Referenced as SNL cast member who only lasted 10 minutes on Fly on the Wall podcast
Maury Povich
Mentioned as host of 'On Par with Maury Povich' podcast featuring comedians and newsmakers
Bobby Lee
Guest on Fly on the Wall podcast; attended SNL 50 event; known for laughing at jokes even if unclear
Quotes
"Everyone's going to tell you you're the funniest person on the show. You're not. He said, they say that to every cast member."
Lorne Michaels (recounted by David Spade)•Mid-episode
"It's not really dirty. It's mine. I've had a few things with some of my... Well, you are a filthy guy."
Marcello Hernandez•Mid-episode
"I think it's a fair word to use about this whole, the whole thing I'm doing. It all feels crazy and it's happening. Even when it's happening slow, it's happening fast."
Marcello Hernandez•End of episode
"There's nothing I can teach you. There's nothing I can tell you, but I will ask you that. That's always the best advice you get is somebody going like, just keep doing it."
Dana Carvey•End of episode
"You have to have such a wall of money that at 3 to 5%, it will spit you out. So much money that you don't have to do a commercial you don't want to do."
David Spade•Mid-episode
Full Transcript
So I went backstage and I saw Queen Latifa and I was like, oh my God, Queen Latifa. And she spoke Spanish to me. And I was like, you speak Spanish? She's like, of course, like, you know, she's just, she's that, she's the coolest. Look at me, no one crashed. I speak Spanish. I pulled it. That's your Queen Latifa. And he was Mexican. I can't believe I'm sitting here. No, I said that so fast. I can't believe it. Wow. I heard it. You heard it, right? Our next to Dana Carby. I don't know what he was doing. Sorry, they would pay. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I think, oh, well. Jesus. That's the bastion. I just got booked on a bigger podcast. What a loser. So we've got Marcelo Hernandez. Marcelo Hernandez. He's a spark plug from last Saturday night. Andy's Saturday night. Yeah. Yes. And we did a sketch with them. We did a sketch. That's Church Lady with him. And David did his now infamous Hunter Biden. Paula, my wife loved your hair, by the way, as Hunter Biden. So whatever that was, do that. You know, it's funny because it's almost my hair like this, but it was still a wig. Because they really want to nail it perfectly. And then you get the hair, everything. And Sarah Sherman was in that with us as Matt Gaetz. So anyway, Marcelo, we don't know him that well. We watch his stuff. He has a special out on Netflix. But I really get along with him. He's a fun dude. He stayed after we went to lunch. And then last night, he was at the comedy store. We all went over there and just goofed around. Super fun. The guys. When I was there last fall, I did a sketch. Because I was asked to be in this weird show. He does like a telemarketerity. And I came out and I went all out and played to Dead Silence. And he talked about that. I like how you say it haunted you for months. You know, it's just sort of a strange feeling, you know, when you commit that hard. But the sketch is really funny because it's so bizarrely abstract, like anything could happen any second in it. He's broken down to camera angles and writing and where everyone was in the placement. It's so interesting to hear that stuff about a sketch. And then you go watch it. People watch on YouTube. Hang out with him. He's a man with a plan. He's just kind of at a point where he's starting to get really famous, so on and so on. New movie with Kevin Hart coming out. He's got a lot of stuff happening. Very humble, nice guy. Here he is, Marcelo. I want to go for a long time. And then we're having lunch right here, Brian. Oh, Jesus. We're going out for lunch, you said. We can if you want. Is this your kind of mic drop? I mean, you've been running. Are we recording? Yeah. Saturday Night Live. Did you do anything canceled on this? No. OK, because I can't wear it if you're just thinking about it. He was called a hit show across the international. I'll do my Koi Hans for you. Whoops. What are you going to do? Well, just a Koi Hans. Uh-oh. We have to hope he knows all of our old shit. Someone is getting famous. I can't turn on the TV and not see him. He's crushing on us and the ground. It's a two-fuck. Anyway, our guest today, I had to do it. But we know each other. I know, nobody applauded, but we don't use it. I know. And we'll put it in later. No one ever applauded. Yes, great. Well, I will say you have two guys in here that can only be described as what, what? They're both like they say what. This one's had COVID since I met him. And this one. Got it. This one has Lupus. Oh, no. I made that up. Okay, good. It sounded funny. It was not not a funny work. So anyway, we should say that when I was on SNL for that 10 weeks, that's where we got to know each other a little bit. Got to hang out. You gave me a sweater. Oh. Remember, oh, this is sore subject. Yeah. Why? No, it's not a sore subject. Did you tell people that I bullied you out of the sweater? Not at all. Yeah, he did, right? No. Took it off his back. Give me that. Do it to me. I'll let Dan take it. It's very me. People go, oh, he's a people pleaser. I've decided no. I'm nice. Does it have to be negative? But I already liked you a lot. You were so cool. But here's what I want to know. We're at a photo shoot for the New Yorker magazine. No, that's SNL issue. Where I hung out with Christopher Walken for like an hour by myself with him. You were doing so many bits to him. You were doing a lot of bits to Christopher Walken. But this is funny for the old people. I said to him, do you paint to Christopher Walken? Do you paint? He's 82. Of course I paint. All old actors paint. Quote, just like that. It's true. So anyway, so this. I want to address that I'm wearing sunglasses because I'm trying to send the message that I did have. I went to a party last night. Oh yeah, you were at the Grammys. I went to a party. I mean, this is because you're coming out Thursday. Whoops. We don't hold. You don't hold, Hernandez. Don't hold it. Nobody holds, Hernandez. It's immediate. We'd release it live if we could. But just really fast. Why didn't you have a shirt? We're at this photo shoot and there's clothes placed. You have a shirt? All of a sudden your shirt, let's go. Does anyone have a shirt? That's my first time ever dealing with a photographer that has an artistic idea. And it was scary. I don't know. I get scared with stuff like that. I don't know what to do. Wait, you didn't have a shirt when you came? No, I had a shirt when I came. And they were like. Maybe, yeah. And then you could find it. Where do I intersect? I walk in to look for my clothes and you say to me. I say to you, I need a shirt if you don't mind. Because I came in with like, they took, essentially I think I like, I don't know what happened. I must have messed up my clothes. Were you roofied? Messed up your clothes and somehow they got lost? Yes, and then I didn't find it. And I needed a shirt. You told me to take my shirt off. I like underdressed to this because I was late and I was scared I was late because it was a bunch of famous people there. So we showed up late and it was cold out and I didn't have a sweater. So I asked, can I please have your sweater? And you were like, of course. You said it to me right at that moment, walking said, Liar! But anyway, no, then I said fine, but all I had was a crew neck sweater, $19 from Gap. 100%. Happy to give it to you. Fit perfect. Fit perfect. Still have some of your hairs on it. Whoops. DNA. Oh. TMI. This sweater is nice. They discontinued the sweaters. That's the only thing. Oh no, but it was from Gap. So you'll be fine. Yeah, but it is a certain thing. Yeah, all right. That was my story. David, let's go over the Grammys. Back to you, David. Let's go to the Grammys. Let's go to the Grammys. Any highlights, anything, any Chateau-Mermont party? Dude, it was cool. Yes, Chateau-Mermont. Oh, you did go? I went to there. It was probably like my first real Hollywood thing outside of SNL. And I presented. So I went backstage and I saw Queen Latifa and I was like, oh my God, Queen Latifa. And she spoke Spanish to me. And I was like, you speak Spanish? She was like, of course. You know, she's that. She's the coolest. Look at me, no one precious. I speak Spanish. I pulled it. That's your Queen Latifa. I got it. I'll skip that one. Go ahead. But yeah, so many, like, and Olivia Dean won this award and then she came off stage crying and then she had the moment with somebody on her team. It's like, you've won a Grammy and they're just crying and jumping around. So it was like an emotional evening, I think in general. And cause there's a lot of young artists winning. Felt like a big like, you know, moment. Olivia Dean is new. I barely had heard her. She's the coolest. I don't know about me, but she seems like gorgeous, cool, funny and she really had a good. What popped in the room? I'm watching on TV. But where did people go? Cause I have a, what popped for me on TV the most. But in the room, was it Justin? In the boxers or what was it? I feel like it's, I feel like a lot of stuff pops cause I didn't know it was in an arena. I thought it was like Critics Choice where it's like a theater, smaller. There's a full on arena. So they're happy to see everyone. There's a bunch of fans all up in the thing. The celebrity area or whatever, the nominees and stuff and presenters. It's a small group. So people go crazy for just about everybody. So yeah, it was a lot of that. A lot of like during the commercial, I've never been before, but what I saw is during the commercial, you get up, you get up and you say hi to the people. You go, I'm a fan of yours and all that stuff. And they bring in seat fillers. Sometimes when people win like at Golden Villars, they leave if they win or don't win. And now they bring in seat filler. So it never looks empty, but there's less and less populated stars up here. The seat fillers, it's a sad thing to watch sometimes. Cause they sit down. I saw this one girl, she's a seat filler. She sits down, the guy goes, can I get you something to drink one of these guys? And she's like, yes, I'll have a water. And the guy goes, no problem. He hands her the water and she goes, she goes to put her lip to it. And then somebody goes up, up, up now. Get up now. Out, out. And then somebody famous sits there. So that, that was a lot. That is so funny. It is very sweet. At that SNL 50. I'm a filler and then they take them away. At the SNL 50, they gave me a juicy front row seat. And then they go, you're, and then she's like, it's you, then Bill Murray and Brandy Carl Vallejo. Great. So I sit down and it's empty. And they're like five minutes. I'm like, and then they go, everybody sit down and then I'm waiting for Bill Murray. Then this fucking seat filler comes in and he goes, I can't believe I'm sitting here. I'm sitting here like, no fucking shit. I can't believe it either. And he was, he was Mexican. I can't believe I'm sitting here. No, I said that's a little funny. I can't believe it. Hey, I heard it. I heard it, right? I'm next to Dana Carby. I don't know what he was doing. Sorry, they were paying. No, they're seas. This is why I don't do impressions. You're dirty. No, it was a hint. It was just like a hint. It was a little bit. No, he just said, I caramba. I know. Why are you saying that? How do you know it was me? Maybe it's paid from Lys-O. No, I will say. From Lys-O. Lys-O. Oh, I thought you said ice out. No, no, Lys-O. From ice out. Yeah. Yeah. From ice. Get out. Maybe you work there, maybe. I don't know. Because I work there. So, I know. Did you get people? Because you're emerging. This is my theme of this podcast. People coming up to you going, I just got to say. I got to say. Because you're new to that club. You've seen a million celebrities SNL. But then all in one room. I can't tell you. Who fanned out the most on you? But go ahead. I don't know. You can never tell if it's real. Right. You can never tell if they really know you. But if they say you're funny or something, you're like, OK, at least you know what I do. But I think it is crazy. I went up to Queen Latifah like a child. And I was like, Queen Latifah, I love you. It's so nice to meet you. I think you're amazing. And we love you in my house. And then she's like, and I know you. And you are very funny. And I love what you're doing. And thank you for bringing the Latino energy to SNL. And I was like, those moments are surreal. To hear them say. And then you said, do you know the character Domingo? Do you know it? No. And she goes, I got to go. I'm Queen Latifah. I'm Queen Latifah. And you start doing the Domingo dance? Yeah. What's that? Not that. No. He has epilepsy. He can't even dance in the impression. Domingo is cool. I mean, he populates the show, right? Yeah. It's a very. I think he's retired now. Have you toned it down on Domingo, if you said maybe? Well, it's not mine. So I don't know. Oh, they write you in it. Right. It's not mine. So you're not in charge of it. Yeah. But I mean, I can't say that it didn't like alter the course of my life, Domingo. Sure. Well, it's the way you're doing it. They didn't get James Austin Johnson to do it. I mean, you had to be you. Yeah, that hits me, yeah. Because? Because he's Latino. And it's me and the janitor. And the janitor has no experience. Are you supposed to be good looking in it? Are you supposed to be kind of a sex symbol? Because the soul patch does a lot. Yeah. I think so. But I like that they made him a doctor and a veterinarian. Is he? They gave him a good job. Yeah. They didn't do the Latino trope. Like I'm not a sexy gardener or something. I have a few jobs. I like you finish those sentences. I wait. Yeah. No, but Domingo was big. Sebastian, of course, is big. Sebastian. I could do it. Do you ever do Sebastian? Oh, yeah. I love doing Sebastian. You buy the pool, the guy's clip in his stone. I don't. You can't exaggerate it, but you own it now. I love it. You killed it. And I love impressions. And I love when you got the stuff on. I just love that. He's the best. I was telling him at the critics choice that I want to see. I can't wait to like, I want him to play a father-in-law. Like I think, oh, wow. Jesus. That's Sebastian. I just got booked on a bigger podcast. What a loser. Hey, man, it's not the first time. Chevy Chase only made it 10 minutes. That was pretty good. I was scared to be here. We're going to take it out, unfortunately, but it's a great one. No, I can't wait to see him be a father-in-law. I told him this. I did try to do it to him. Thank God he liked it. But it was right before we presented it at the critics choice. I was like, you as a father-in-law would be hilarious just to see your daughter be like, and I actually went to the doctor last week and my husband, Jason, he couldn't come because he was working and just a camera straight to Sebastian. Guys got a job. More important than my daughter. Some little book. Semi-donator the doctor by herself. See, have you done this yet? I got him beginning. This is another lane, though. This is great because it's another flavor. It's a whispery, almost swallowing the word. She's not going to tell me that your little job is more important than the life of my baby. You understand? This is a feast. She's a good girl. She never did nothing to you. Are you going to? When are you going to do him next? I don't know. On the show. I don't know. I'll do you him again. Ooh. Kitty. A great story like Monster's Inc. stays with you forever. And Disney Plus is where you'll find your next great story. From the return of the award-winning hit series, Rivals. 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Feel the sensation of an AI work platform, so flexible and intuitive, it feels like it was built just for you. Notice you're limitless. Now open your eyes. Go to Monday.com. Start for free and finally breathe. But does Lauren ever go? Maybe Sebastian's. He is definitely, he looks out for sure. Like if you, the first thing I ever did on the show was a Lauren request. The first thing that like ever was good was the baseball thing about how white baseball players are boring to watch and Latino baseball players are fun to watch. It was, I had nothing in the show, it was my second show and he brought me into his office and he was like... It was his idea? Yeah, he was like, I don't wanna do a Lord impression but I have a good one. If you can do Sebastian. You do have one? I have one. Okay, go ahead. Everyone has one, but do the Super NNN. I'll do it with Sebastian. He goes, yeah, he goes, he goes, did you see Aaron Judge? He just hit a big homer. And I think it'd be good to have something about baseball this week. And then I was like, you got it. Something Mexican, you know, like of course, of course. No, I'm not saying this because you're a Latin heritage. It's just, it's that thing of like a baseball player and they can be festive and... Festive. It's the act record. It's just that thing of like, it's funny, which is a good thing. Well, all he said was baseball. He was like something about baseball. And then I've had this bit that I think I did in my audition that he kind of maybe remembered or somebody told him like Marcelo has a baseball thing. And then I did that. And that was like the first time that I think the writers and everybody saw me do something funny on the show. And then that's a big deal. When you do your first funny thing, then you get written into more stuff. And they don't really know everyone's sort of a blank slate until then you go, why don't they write for me? And I used to say that. And like, they don't know even what you're funny about. So if you give them some hook or angle, even around the office a little bit, sometimes they bite on something, go, what is that? Maybe we could play with that or you could... 100% Without looking too thirsty, but you can do that. But if they know you didn't, your act or they saw your audition, that's perfect. And you're just waiting for that scenario, like the playoff or some big deal. But he's done that a few times. Like he's been like, just like, like he's, with me and Jane, the couple you can't believe are together. He's like, we were like, cause I think it's tough to bring something back. There feels like a little bit of entitlement when you're like, this should come back. Like when you think of it, it feels gross. So sickeningly too. You should be back. But he, like, I think he's brought it back before. And then we were like, oh, amazing. Yeah, we'd love to do it. I think when I like something, I want to see it again. As long as there's some other little tight twist. But you can't be the one because when you go, you can't be the one going on. Cause one time Lauren said to me, which I didn't say it, but he goes, everyone's going to tell you you're the funniest person on the show. You're not. He said, they say that to every cast member. Cause they do, everyone goes, why aren't you on more? You're actually really good. Well, that's true. He goes, and everyone thinks that. And I was victim of just only people. I would see it, whether they thought it or not. They go, you should be on more. And so I didn't say it, thank God. He said that. I was like, oh my God, that's fucking brutal and true. But it's hard to say. I need you to come. He is. Yeah. Now you did baseball when we were, who did you play? Pete Lanza, who did you play when we were? Oh, I played Juan Soto. On church chat. Oh, on Soto, yeah, that's right. Yeah, on church chat. Yeah, you brought that up. One thing I noticed. Me too. Yeah, who did you play? Hey man, we got the team back together. I don't remember. I know who you played. You played Trump, a son. No, I played Hunter Biden. You played Hunter Biden. No, Hunter Biden, Biden son. Fucking guy, it was close. He was a son. Come on, let's not get, he's like, he's a, the boys are back here. The boys are back here. No, he was Thursday. Biden's talking to Hunter Biden. Matt at Biden. Well, was Sarah in it too? Sarah was in it too. You nailed it. Yeah, Sarah did Matt Gaetz. Well, the look was historical. Which camera? Which camera? Did you, you know, one thing I noticed about you, this might be kind of, that you're a boss. What? Well, like, we're doing that Sopato. What's the thing while it came out? We'll talk about that in a second. When the biggest bomb, it haunted me for months. Oh, he's showing a clip of data doing this. We'll talk about that in a second. But I noticed that you, in a nice way, casually, you're like talking to Liz and like, I think this should be here, here. Same thing with the baseball player. I think I should do this and this, you know, and that's, you're like, that's really, really a great skill set to have. Well, I don't know if I'm a boss in general, but with Latin stuff, I do feel like. And it'll lose sense. People really, you know, they sort of look out for their character or the sketch. Or also the camera, you're like, make sure, if I get up, make sure you stay on me. Or I'm gonna do something like this. So cover it. Because sometimes they're like, we weren't on you. Or you do a movie in the ad-lib, something, they go, great, let's do it again. We weren't on you. And I'm like, oh my God. It's something that really works in the moment. But that's good. That's smart. At least you have the balls to stay on. That was a tough thing. Well, that day? Yeah, I think it was just like. No, I know what happened, but you tell your side of the story. What do you think happened? I think that. I think that, I'll be honest, I did serious thing that they didn't hear you. Like I think that we were playing so much with the voice and stuff. Right. And I probably swallowed the video. I don't think you, yeah, I don't know. I feel like, because your character's so fun. And I think sometimes the biggest thing that happens at SNL sometimes is you forget you're in a theater. Right. And like the, I think on TV, it probably translated a lot better. But in that room, you have to be so clear about what you're saying. You just hit it wrong. Because the room won't hear you and then you feel like a ball. The origin of that sketch, just explain it first. Salvador Gigante, Don Francisco's show, one of the most legendary shows. He did this big game show. It was like Our Wheel of Fortune mixed with. It's a huge, a great top thing. Avant-garde non sequiturs coming at you. Insane, yeah. Characters jumping out, El Chacal, a guy that just plays a trumpet in your face. Makes no real sense. Big, funny characters, like a children's show. Insane, yeah. And it was also like American Idol, but only the bad people, like he would only bring out bad singers and they would sing really bad. And then have the whole crowd go, outta here, outta here. And he would like get the crowd up. I love it. It was hard to make it. It is like, there is a degree of difficulty in making something like that in a place like SNL when maybe like one or two people know the show. But I think I look back on it as a great bonding thing for you and I, just going back and forth with you doing that voice in my face all the time. Yeah, I was doing that. And then like you came in like 20 minutes before air and sorta just, cause I was just like, you were the captain of the sketch, like what do you want me to do here? But I think the initial instinct with that one was, doors like this, I'm back, I come out, parakatada katada, and it closes, right? Which is funny just saying it like that. Right, but then somehow we got excited, we'll keep it all, I'll come downstage. So it puts pressure on it, even though there was no real laugh point. But I committed really hard. And I'm, I'm dancing out, I'm totally 1,000% and you go behind those slats, dead silent. And no eye contact. All the crew, everyone, you go, hey. And they, fuck. I think it's the ultimate leap for something like Salvador Higante, you doing that and it making no sense and the crowd being a little bit confused. It makes sense for the show. You know, it goes back to the sketch. Old sketches like Cheever or Cheever, I watch them and they don't get laughs, you go, oh, cause they're teaching you to like it. They're like, this is our sketch. The next time it comes on, more laughs. And the next time I wonder. If I'm in New York and that's all, I wanna do a cameo. You don't have to pay me. No, I would love that. Did you guys do the Italian one where you're like clumping the people? The old cantor, was that it? There were two, kind of the big. Where the legs go up. Christianity. Yeah, and I had Victoria Jackson's legs on my, yeah. That was that. So I did one with Miles Teller and we were just doing little sexual innuendos. And then somebody like immediately sent me that one, which we, like I had known about it, but I hadn't watched it recently. And I was like, oh, this is just better. This is just ours, but better. Back when you could do, you know. You could do it. Unless I got in trouble for that, I think. You guys did. I think. They pretended, cause I had done Victoria's legs over my, you know, and so, it's not grinding, but it implies a lot. And then they, right before we went, you know, three, two, one, Smigal was pretending to try to reach me. Oh, nevermind. So he could say to the Sanctusia people, we didn't get the note to him. Oh my God. That was before, but you know. You could do a lot more in those days though. Yeah, I know. You could really go for it. One time I said on update, I was doing it in an outlist and it was trying to be fake edgy. And I go in, going, oh, going straight home after the show. Oh, going to the after party and trying to get in a pussy. And then the censor met me backstage and he said, guys, and he had a warning. He goes, listen, we lose, if we hear the word pussy, we lose three big advertisers. Oh my God. And I'm like, and Lauren goes, well, I don't say pussy then. And I go, I'm not really saying it. And he goes, we know what you're saying. The guy's mad. Andrew Brewer, remember? Yeah, very nice. But he's like, I'm in the middle. And then I go out there and Dennis Miller goes, he goes, he does it and I'm nervous. That joke's coming up. And I guess I'm a pussy. And he gets a big laugh and Dennis goes, and then at the corner she goes, you're fucking cooked, dude. That got too big a laugh. You're cooked. I mean, they heard it. Dude, cooked. That's a young term. You're cooked. Fuck yeah, unk. That's all right. You heard me. Talking to the Marchella. I can't, don't just look at me. Marchella, you don't make me get to all my questions about you. Have you ever heard of TikTok? What's your relationship with TikTok? A guy like you. I'm not legally supposed to be on it, but I'm on it. At 40, they say it's kind of for younger people. You know what it says. I didn't ever give the pain for a rise. I didn't memorize it. Up here it says no dad. Whoa. Well, I saw your special. I saw your special. No, don't do this. Don't do that. I won't do it. Don't do that. American boy. Yes. American boy, special on Netflix. Yes. This is great. I saw him prep for this special day and while he's reading, I went, shall I talk about the special? Now the special is a big deal. Special special. I'm trying to hype up your shitty special. Thank you, man. I appreciate it. So I go down, bless my heart, doing superstar shit around my house, whatever. And this house is crazy, by the way. No, actually you didn't even ask. This house, as soon as you walk in, you feel a little bit of anger. Yeah. A little bit of anger. COVID, what do you think? What's his name? He's called COVID. Yeah. He's sweating. I just... He's got long COVID. It's been three years. Oh, he's switching the cameras from camera to camera. Yeah. So even when you talk to me, camera, look at you. I told him, I told him to stay on me. So focused. So I get a text from either. I think it was more Sarah Sherman than you. I invited you. Oh, you did? Yes, I did. And also I went to... But Sarah was like, I'm bringing speed. Yeah, so I did a set. I hope... This is what's happening in the world. You did an open for me, Speed. I opened for my girl. You did a spot. I did a spot at the comedy store. Oh, my God. I will say, I was angry when I walked in. Because it was fucking bad. And I go, for this, pipsqueak, this twerp. Who gives a fuck about this? Sorry. Make way. What would Han say? Whoops. Oh, no, it's a new generation. Now the... Pew. Whoops. There was a wait list. That's so long. So long old time. You had your day. Oh, no, standing room only. I know. It was now that teachers become the pupil. So anyway, you actually did good. And this fucking kills me. Thank you. I watched the whole thing. No, you didn't. Well, I sat with Sarah. For the first 15. I knew it was Sarah because she was throwing up the whole time. Right. Working on a new bit. Yeah. Here's her notes for me. That would be funny. What if your eyes popped out of your head? I mean, Sarah Sherman. So anyway, and she has a special out also. Yes, on HBO. HBO. That's right. Competing Network. And so anyway, you did a great job. Thank you. And then Nick Goosen told me he's doing your special. Yes. I was actually shocked you got so many swings at it. I know. We did six. I was like, I hope it's good. We got six fucking tries, dude. Well, we had to. But it's hard to pick. And I talked to you a little bit. I think I FaceTimed you once after. I think after Sebastian, I hit you up and said, great job last night. And we were editing. Yeah, yeah. We called you a couple of times while we were editing. And you were on a private jet. Yeah. Right. So which I keep in. You saw it in the kitchen. Yeah, I saw it in the kitchen. No, but Goosen's a buddy and I was checking on these guys and they were editing. But I'm working hard. And then I hit you once. I think you're a lovely girl from the set. I have a question for you about that. Uh-oh. What? We're off to special already. Now, special. How fast is that? What is it on? Netflix. Right. It is? Yeah. OK, good. I have some thoughts about it. But we can go. Now, we're going. I just want to say. And this is. What are your thoughts about it? Well, they're not that profound. I got a heavy question. I think some people forget and stand up. It doesn't take much. But to connect to the audience, like you're a real person up there. Not just doing bits. So one moment, I don't know if you did it every show, if you're like, I can't believe what just happened to me. Because it's still, for us, the American public, you kind of just arrived. I agree. You know, it's been a while for you. It's been, yeah, four years. Oh. Of like things going OK. Yeah. So that really kind of like, oh, god, this really the audience is just connected to. And the other one is all the physicality. Most people don't do that. I know. That's Robin Williams. That's, you know, I don't know who else. But it's just like fun to watch. Somebody told me. And I think it was a quote from somebody like, you know, maybe somebody else. But I mean, Usama Siddiqi is a comedian from New York. And he was like, when I first started, I met him. And I was like, he does a lot of physical stuff. And I'm like, I do a lot of physical stuff. And he goes, yeah, I think we're we're we're taking risks because it's much scarier to bomb here. Yeah, it's so true. It's so sweaty. Yeah, let's not go back to that sketch. I did that. That was his physical. I get one of the guys was like, yeah, he's down on the wall. He walks off the commercial with a separated shoulder. That was it worth it. That sounds like the seat filler for Spain at that thing. I have a question for you about Spanish people. Yes. Like, because we have so many friends in here. Latino people. Careful. But when sometimes this guy was snaking our toilet or something and when he spoke in English. He's what? Cleaning the toilet? Well, I use a plumber. He's a plumber. There was a clog. And he owns the company and he's very successful. Extremely. Yeah, Jose. Not cool though. Jose's clubbing. OK, great. When he was spoken in English, he talked really, really fast. Right. Well, because we talk fast in Spanish. I think the problem with English sometimes is that it takes longer. Let's try it. Ready? Give me a sentence to say in English. To say in English? Yes, something. Let's see. We could pick you up at 3.30 or 4.30 or we can get you after dinner at 8. All right, ready? We could pick you up at 3.30 or 4.30 or we could pick you up later at 8. That's in English. In Spanish. We could pick you up at 3.30 or 4.30 or we can get you after dinner at 8. You didn't say that. Ocho or Ocho? No, you thought I was some fucking asshole. Ocho, isn't that neat? I fucking caught you. Uno, dos, tres, cuatro, cinco, seis. Ocho, Nueve, DS. Welcome to Spain. This is eight years of Spanish shit time. Yeah, boy. I just thought we were rookies, dude. Let me tell you both something right now. Yeah. Let me say something. Anything I can do right now. Let me tell you both something right now. Let me tell you something right now. Yeah. Don't practice on me. No, it was good. Don't practice on me. Why was it? I'm good at it, you understand? Okay. I'm an expert at it. Let me ask you. You go practice with COVID guy or somebody. Yeah. I'm one of these guys that don't speak. Say something in Spanish fast. Go, three, two, one. He doesn't know anything. Go, come on, do it. Do you know Spanish? Say something, go. Come on. It can't be Ola. Paquito. Ola. Ola. He's got something. COVID. He's got some game. COVID, what do you think? This guy's an enigma. Ola. This guy's an enigma. Ola. That's it. Nobody knows what you're thinking. You know that? Ola, COVID. You don't know if he likes or hates you, right? No, you don't know anything about him. And you see his shoes. Usually shoes say a lot about a person. I see his shoes and I'm more confused. Yeah. Isn't that interesting? What do you think of my shoes? You need to clip you guys counting at me in my face during that. Okay. In color chromatic. No, you're scared of that. Is that a PR issue? Okay. Why are you guys dressed like? I was going to ask, you're a mom's Cuban, right? My mom is Cuban. Okay. So one of my favorite movies is Scarface. So Al Pacino does a Cuban accent, which I love to do, but is it accurate? Is it theatrical or what? I don't know. I think it's definitely theatrical, but I think the movie is so good and so many people love the movie that you can't really get mad at them. Oh, no, I love it. It's operatic. It's musical. I can't tell what I'm watching and if like, I don't know, what do you think, Marty? Do you think the Scarface accent is good? Like do you think it's realistic? Oh, okay. Oh, man. And that's my marriage. I'm kidding. You got a time to watch Shambu, man. Yeah. His mom is a Cuban. I think, you know what's good about it is that he makes it really understandable for everyone. But you can hear. Yeah. If it was about a real Cuban, you would have had a tough time understanding that guy. I think he made his own accent. And my was having him with the guy in the coming into my house. Yeah, they go too fast. And he goes faster. He goes slow. But I think there's guys that talk like that. But it's so catchy. It's so catchy. Musical rhythms. Yeah. It's almost like Sebastian. It is a little bit like Sebastian. I think Sebastian wasn't that animated in the early days. Really? Because sometimes, like I move around a little bit. I'm not super animated up there. No, you move around a little bit. No, it hurts. But if I get, and you know, if anything to help a joke. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If it helps sell it, if it helps clarify it. You go for it. You go for it. When Sebastian came out, I think it was 2012 or 2013. I don't usually watch specials. I watch like 10 minutes. Oh, that was the theater. It's pretty good, right? It doesn't matter who it is. Yeah. And then I watched all of yours. Thank you. When I saw Sebastian, I go, this is something new. This is like a new thing. And I looked it up and he had toured with Andrew Dice Clay. Oh. And then I saw him, I think, it was Craig Ferguson or one of those late night shows. Early days. And he, everything was more contained and not as physical. And then you see him a few years later, the confidence, he just extenuated. Oh. Oh. Like when he goes, I get an Uber. And he goes up front going, are you good? Yeah. Yeah. The names. He also does the chipotle. He opened the chipotle. He's got BAM-TAY. And the money. And the cheese. And the fajitas. He goes, I get in the car and he goes, you like iPhone charger, iPhone 7, iPhone 8, iPhone 9, Android, Crest White's ship. White, how long am I in this car? Yeah. Yeah. Crest White's ship. Yeah. Did he say Harry Potter? No, no, no. That's fucking it. I added a tag. Oh. You had a question. Okay. You had a question? Oh. Mm-hmm. Two, this is a two-parter. Oh, one, when people always, I think this is a common thing. And I got this for years, like certain questions I ask you too much at every, people that do a skim job that don't know you, probably Sabrina Carvener, Domingo, we already know. But just that you know Sabrina Carvener. And you have a lovely girlfriend, that's what I was saying. And I think there's a quiet part of the agencies and studios that would rather you be single. Mm. They would rather, it's interesting just because if you're seeing with someone, maybe you're with Kendall Jenner. We don't know, we're not commenting. And always when people date, there's something to that. It's not bad or good. No, no, no. And so if you do that, then they go, oh, because it's almost people are bummed out. You have a girlfriend, you were on Dax the other day. And he was like, first of all, you couldn't believe it or something. Yeah. Instead of just going, yeah, let's move it on. But I think the excitement level of someone go, oh, he's a certain, and you're a young guy and you're marginally good looking. I think I just skim over that. Yeah. It's okay. I have my own. He can't get offended when a guy like you says that. I have my own thesis, but go ahead. So am I good looking? Sure. Thank you. All it takes your very hands. Okay, here's another one. Lauren Michaels. Does the guy that cuts your hair, does he have the same hair? This feels like a burn and I'm not, I think it looks good right now. So you can't hurt me. Okay. It starts at 7 a.m. It's a little bit of a mully, but you know what? Your gender. Listen, I'm saying because I'm barely held together. You're just your friends with Sarah Sherman. I'm just saying. I do like that. Her mullet is cute. I think girls at mullets are cute. Okay. This one is. She faced Tommy, she was, someone was cutting her hair. I was like, Sarah, you're keeping up with the mullet. Who's cutting your hair? And then she puts her phone like this and it's a guy with a mullet. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's like, yeah, of course he likes you. You could look good in a mullet. I am trying to do a little mullet. You could look cool. I'm trying to do it. I'm trying. Who would take over SNL if Lauren leaves? Do you know anybody there at the show now? I don't know. I don't know. Who's a big... It's hard because Lauren has built so many years of people that pick up his calls. That's the hard part. I think the biggest question is who's going to get the call picked up. Right. So I don't know. I mean, I always think Tina Fey or something, but Colin also. Maybe, yeah. I think he's singularly a guy that when he calls you, you pick up. Well, he's turned into this whole enigma, Lauren. He's always been brilliant with the suits. There's been different regimes over the years and he knows how and what to say to them and it's very interesting. Do you text Lauren? Not really. Sarah said she fucking texted Lauren. I was like, we never had his number. We never... Well, we don't have phones, but we could... Sarah is very open. We couldn't even... You sent him letters. I sent him letters. Dear Lauren, by the time you get this, I'll be long gone. I hope you feel good about yourself. I'll text him if there's something happens in sports or something that's funny. I'll send it to him because he loves baseball. It's like this. Who's interrupting my lunch at Orson? I had my thought not about you, but just about relationships in general. If someone you meet, if you're kind of famous, you meet someone... I use the word Ernest. Ernest is highly underrated. It means someone with no guile and you meet someone who's just got this classiness about them. They're a good person and I think for a lot of celebrities that appeals. Where are you going with this? I'm just casually observing. No, he's saying probably my girlfriend is a good person. I'm kind of implying that. That is very appealing. It's a very wild, topsy-turvy celebrity world and you meet someone with a heart of gold, Neil Young. Or just someone who... Keep me more searching for a heart of gold. I just don't know any of that stuff. You don't need to know it. I don't either. We're both young and we're lost right now. I heard you talk about this on Bobby Lee Beatles versus Lincoln Park, which I did think was a little silly. It's two bands that I've really... Obviously the Beatles I've heard a lot more, but I listened to all Latin music. Do you really? Do you really? Reggaeton, salsa, merengue, bachata. Now there's merengue-ton, which is a mixture of merengue and reggaeton. Of course. But merengue-ton is like they take this old school merengue, which is... And then they add the... So it's like... And you guys should not be concerned with it because if you heard it, you might... I don't know. Well, the Grammys were... I didn't know what happened to us. I like all this. Anything is good. Did you know everybody at the Grammys? Did you know all this people up for Grammys? I knew all the... Yeah, I knew a lot of the people. I think now TikTok has made music so accessible. Oh, sometimes you know the song and not the person. Yeah, exactly. But then you see the picture of the person, but yeah, I listen to mostly Latin music. It's all very positive in a beat, and even when it's sad, the beat is positive. I talked about that in the special. So I do like... That's my kind of stuff really often. And then occasionally, this Olivia Dean girl, I've got her in my phone. She's... Her music is also... What is she? What kind of music is she? It's like classy pop, I would say. I don't think that's a genre. She looks like movie starish. Yeah, she does. She has a great energy, and she's also elegant on stage, and she wears these flowy dresses. It's like old school kind of. It's old school vibes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that stuff's good. That stuff's good. It's funny at those Grammys when you see people. I'm over here, buddy. It's funny when... I was just trying to think all this time in my head of how I've been exposed to... That music. Yeah, what kind of stuff? The first one, the first one, Big Big Time, was a band called Santana. Of course. Yeah, of course. And what's... My dad put me on to sing. Yeah, so you're doing all this rhythm stuff, and I was an amateur drummer. And when you hear that with bongos and all of it going together, it's like... It is very infectious. It's beautiful. It was... That was the first and only band of Bill Graham, who was the... The Lorne Michaels of Music back then. Oh yeah, was he from honor? He knew the first time he saw them. They would be huge. Carlos Santana. It's also a big moment right now for Latin music. It's a big... Why, because of Bad Bunny? No, because Bad Bunny, Karol G... Yeah. You know... Were you with Karol G last night? Karol G, we presented together. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I thought that was Nikki Glaser. Oh, please. Oh, no, you were with Karol G. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Nikki... Okay, yeah. Yeah. Because I saw you last night. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nikki Glaser went out with Tiana. But there's a lot right now. There's a lot of big Latin artists that are killing it. Yeah, last night. So, young Miko is touring with Billie Eilish. Rico Suave? Excuse you. You know who Rico Suave is? Yes, of course. You know Ricky Martin is? He's my father. Rico. I've seen Ricky Martin now. That was a great video. I don't remember much more about that guy. Yeah, I've seen Ricky Martin. How about that? You are? Oh, wow. Where'd you guys meet? I'll play a local one. Sorry? Nothing. I met him at a dinner party. So rude. So rude. So rude. No, I'm doing that. We're friends, to be fair, for the listeners. Me and you. Me and these guys are friends. Yeah, yeah. I like them and I respect them so much. No, they know. We're trying to be more friends with you than Bobby Lee. Oh my God, I love Bobby Lee. I know, he's so funny. Yeah, he was in that seat. I can't get mad at Bobby Lee. He came here? Yeah. What was that like? Well, I put his... Oh, yeah, like that. He had just shaved his entire genital... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's so good because he laughs even if he doesn't really hear what you're saying. He's a good laugh. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he was standing up a lot. Yeah, he's a pistol. Now, what's next for Marcel? So you came out here right after SNL did the Grammys because we were like, why is he out here right away? He just did a show. We left right after the show. We didn't go to the party. We went straight to grab our bags and go to the airport. And then... How'd you get here? How'd you get to LA? So you took the red? I flew in a flight from American Airlines. No, you didn't. I did, I did. From SNL, the middle of the night? Yeah. How? No, we left at 7 a.m. You got up? Oh, the day of the Grammys? Yeah. Oh, no wonder you're fucking burned out. Yeah, flew in and right away. Oh, yeah. And then I'm here for two days and then I go to the University of Florida. I'm doing a show there. Oh, you're doing shows, I saw. Oh, you're doing the Gator Bowl? And then I'm doing something with the Gators. You're doing the Wilbur. Is it the Gator Bowl? Yeah. Because I did that once. You go to the stadium. Oh, I don't know if we're doing the stadium. It's not the Gator Bowl. He's doing a couple nights at Wilbur in Boston. Yeah, I'm doing those. Are you doing those? Because you can do them through SNL. Because it's Boston so close. Yeah, so I'm doing eight Wilbur's. Shit, dude. Well, that's great. Six Wilbur's, six nights. Six is nothing. And it's about four nights? Four nights would be great. It's down to four? Four? Four, six, four. The trend is going down. I understand. No, we're doing eight shows there and then we're doing a show in a place called the Chivalier. Oh, I've been in the Chivalier. Chivalier. Chivalier. Is it cool? It's great. There's apparently like a Dominican population close by. We're going to try. Yeah, they were not a word. The place is called Lynn. Sam Jay told me a place is called Lynn. Lynn? We're going to have some Dominican people. Lynn? What do you do? Your special just dropped. You got another hour? I have, yeah. I have some new stuff. You do? Yeah. Really? I'm from the school and we always talk about this. It's not ready. No. It's not like tight, tight. No, but I have enough material to go out. But I also worked as soon as we finished the hour, I will start sat down with Madi and we started looking at all the stuff that we didn't put in the hour. Yeah. And then you make it a little bit longer. You know what? Even the school of it doesn't have to be 100% new because it takes a while to buff out the edges and some stuff you put is a little undercooked and then you go, shit, now that bit works better and it's longer and I did it. I did it probably too early because now it's this long and there's, so if you do it, that seems new. Some people don't watch the last 20 minutes of your act. It's like, it's so funny that these comedy a fishing on is like, it's got to be all new and you go, but I've seen people's new hours sometimes and I go, it's all right. It wasn't ready. Like they just go special like you're doing other stuff, but some people do tour special. I'll probably figure it out after like, oops, eight will bus. Yeah. The will bus always. It's like no, that's great. It's most it's available. I know. He broke Sebastian Manus Kukur and bill bus. There's no way. John Mulaney did 23. No, he didn't. 23 will bus. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. 23 will bus. 23 something like that. My buddy's with us. And then he leaped to Madison Square Garden. Must have. Yeah. I mean, that's so crazy. Now I see you jumping up like that. Okay. I think because of the special and everything else, what are they, what are they throwing at? You know, what size of rooms? Oh, um, I mean, what, you know, I'm trying to work out the new stuff in like clubs. So I'm not even really trying to be. Clubs is fun. It's fun and you can work out and you can learn and, um, you know, stretch. Right. But you're in a big room. If you don't have it kind of a little bit figured out that can get scary. Oh, and they're paying a lot. I know. They got babysitters and screens. So many. Oh, you do that. I don't know. Sometimes they have screens. I've never done it like in arena or anything like that. Do you show them a little bit? Do you do a little bit of your SNL characters? Just a little bit? No. I've seen a little bit of your act. Do you do a great job of doing that? And you kill with that? I just gave up. They wanted so bad. Like I'm doing regular standup and then I do guards for a second. And then we did the benefit. Oh, that. Oh, I guess so. That was crazy. I was so rusty. Yeah, whatever. What was it for? It's just so funny because all of us are coming straight from work and we're all like, what am I going to do? What am I going to do? And we're just like thinking and then we just look at Dana and Dana's got this paper. It's just like banger after banger. See on the other side. Yeah, literally. And he's very humble. He's like, I'm just going to try to follow this guy. In the margins of the paper, it says banger, banger, banger. Double banger. Double banger. Follow that. Follow that loser. Sorry, James, I'll stand and jump. I like it. Oh, that's what happened is that you came out, you were doing Biden and then he was doing Trump and it was. Yeah, that was fun. Oh my God. Yeah. Here's a text. I said that. Love James. I went to see this prick. Who? And then you. And then here's what I said after I left. Oh, yeah. Go ahead. After I left the show. Hey, don't blame yourself. That second show crowd is super tough. They were just tired. You're the worst guy ever. That's me after he kills. Don't blame yourself. Yeah. Fuck it. Don't freak out over there. That's friendship, by the way. I know that is good. To me, that's a day and it does to me all the time. Negativity is friendship. It's funny. Yes. And being nice to people, that's people you don't know. Yeah. That's how you were taught at home. Yeah. You can tell on these award shows. Mom is very mean to you, but nice to everyone else. Yeah, kind of fussed, Daniel. If you go to Oscars or Emmys or those things like last night at the Grammys, and you're seeing the fun is seeing people you've never seen in real life. And then if they know you, it's fun. If they know something you do, the general one is I like your work. Yes. And that's general. Then you're funny. Now they know you're a comedian. Yeah. And then if they like something you do, that helps. Then it's a little more specific. But it is fun. All those things are a blast. That's the good thing. Plus you're just presenting so you don't really have to worry about it. No, yeah. I was excited to present. I was nervous. I wrote that. I wrote it. But you said you said something in Spanish, right? Yeah, we came out and said everyone has notches. That means good notches. No. It means good nuggets. Good night. Good nuggets. A chicken leg. What you buy is your business. Giving you rewards on purchases is ours. Barclay Card, back in your future. 28.9% APR representative variable, subject to application, financial circumstances and borrowing history, T's and C's apply. Hey, everyone. It's Stavros Halakis and I'm here to tell you about my podcast, Stavi's World. Each week we're joined by great guests like Josh Safty, Eric Andre, Caleb Herron and more. It's sort of an interview show, but really we're just messing around, making each other laugh and hopefully making you laugh while you're washing the dishes or grocery shopping or out on a long drive. Plus, I take listener calls where we have honest conversations about dating life and everything in between. Imagine if your therapist was a vulgar degenerate whose office was in a Greek diner. No scripts, no polish and absolutely no holding back. Listen to Stavi's World wherever you get your podcasts. I'm just curious about you starting to get famous in the neighborhood and with your sisters. And it was very sweet at the end the way the camera stayed on you and you gave your mom a big hug. It did affect me because of the way... Was that an actress? Who played your mom? I actually played his mom. It's dark. Yeah, it doesn't matter. I just church lady, you said. No, she was... She was sweet. Yeah, but she was standing there like... I think she kind of wanted to be there either way for the last one. Oh, a nose for the lens. I would have told her, you know, it would be a great shot probably if you do that. But... Do you guys drive to watch the whole thing then? No, dude. They bring her to the end. The thing is a woman like that that's been through so much, these jokes, they're not going to affect her, you know? And I talk about it now in this new hour a little bit about like, it's hard to offend like real immigrant Latinos. Like to get offended over words. It's hard because they just... They've seen it. They've been through so much stuff. My mom went through so much that like the words kind of don't affect her so much. She's more like, how do I treat her? You know, do I come home for Christmas? Those kind of things are more important. Do I call? Do I... Am I active? Do I call my sister and take care of my sister? All that stuff is... That kind of thing. Am I a good man? You know what I mean? Am I a good person? Those things, showing your parents with, you know, the family dynamic is more important than like what people will say. Well, do you feel sometimes a little dirty or is it an act not like that? Are you scared of it? It's not really dirty. Dirty? No, no. It's mine. I've had a few things with some of my... Well, you are a filthy guy. And she goes, but the funny thing is... It's not you. It's not you talking. Your mullet has ideas. You got her. And they talk to you. You better be hateful. When you go home, my mom goes, Davey, I promised the neighborhood boys you'd ride bikes with them. I go, aren't they 11? She goes, oh, don't get like this. I go, like what? And then she goes... That's adorable. She goes, we go to Costco and she buys deviled eggs and they're little plastic divots and then there's like a hundred of them and she puts them down and it's got the tag on top and she walks in. Okay, what else? I go, Mom, are you going to take... Are you going to pop this open? And she goes, oh, don't get all Hollywood on me. I go, no, I'm just saying, if you take them out of the divots on a plate, maybe they won't know you got them from Costco and they won't barf their fucking guts out. And she goes, okay, showbiz. Yeah, yeah. But it's all so you have to be very careful. My mom is like that with me too. My mom also is very concerned about like me spending my money. She's very concerned about that stuff. Like I think on DAX, it slipped out that like I rented a Porsche because I wanted to drive a Porsche. I never like... And what did she say? And then it came out, he was like, you came here to Porsche and I was like, oh yeah, I rented it. I wanted to drive a Porsche. I don't know. And it's cheaper if you rent it. And so it came out and then my mom called me after the podcast came out and she was like, and when were you going to tell me you rented a Porsche? Huh? There's a lot of cars with four wheels, Marcelo. It doesn't have to be that. So flashy. Yeah, she's... But I love that dude because it's so scary, you know, all the... And you hear about it with athletes and stuff that they make money and then they end up losing it also. I'm very glad that I have her to be that. Yes, I have a theory, an algorithm. How much money do you have, Dana? I mean, if counting all the houses? No, no, no. Which is exactly what it is. We can cut if we want. You can count as 1,500. 5 to hand 15. Here's what you need. Here's what you need to tell your older self. So you want to not need money at all by the time you're, let's just say 50. So for that to be true, you have to have such a wall of money that at 3 to 5%, it will spit you out. So much money that you don't have to do a commercial you don't want to do. You just do show business, but only do anything you want to do. So that's the thing is until the relatives get hungry in the whole neighborhood, you know, just make sure you get that wall of passive income. Yeah. I know it's not funny. No, it's true. That's my advice. No, that's good advice. Because if you buy something like, it's not too frivolous, like a house or something like that, what do you have to buy? It saves you from spending that money. In my head, that's I think something or stocks where you go, I won't touch that. I can screw around with this money because you're obviously it burns a hole in your pocket. You want to buy stuff and it's fun and you want to treat yourself like you're working so hard. Does it speak to you? Because I asked my wife this sometimes, did I ever talk about being famous or rich ever? Because we're together at 79 and I didn't. I never thought about it. I knew it was possible, but I kept thinking, could I headline the club? Right. You don't strike me as someone who's like, now I'm rich. No, early on, no, no, no. I do think it's funny though. It is funny to say you're rich. Yeah, right. Like, I think it was, I was with a writer one night, we went to a diner after SNL and the check was like, you know, $80 or something. And I'm like, I'll pay and he grabs it and he goes, I'm rich. And he pays for it. And I like those little stupid bits like that. But no, I also never like, I remember thinking that it would take me 15 years to make it. In comedy when I first started. So I had this such a patience for it. Oh, that's a year, year. Yeah. And I was like, I'll be fine. Just work my ass off. That's a semi-realistic. Yeah. Most people say a year. Yeah, no. I'm not doing it a year. I'm going to tell people it's not happening. Exactly. Give it if it's one in least 10 in a year. But you got in three or four when you first started? No, no. To SNL. Yeah. SNL was seven years. Six or seven. Oh, you got that in six. Oh, that's you. I started at 18. Like almost full time since I was 18. Like, because I was in college, but I was doing three or four shows a week in college. And I was traveling to New York to sell tickets on the street. I was barking and I was, I did like a tonight show, a horrible, I don't even want to talk about this, but I did it at my college. I did like a stupid little show. Doing sketches and stuff. Yeah, that's right. I'm pretty bad. We're bombing. You get you warmed up though. Bombing so bad. It does help though. It's practice. Yeah. It all helps. You learn. I put in, I put in the work. Have you done a standup set on like Fallon or anything? Have you ever done a standup set on those? Did you look up anything about me before we came? I know he doesn't do standup. He comes out as the first guy. No, I'm saying, come on, I'm not kidding around. Of course. Yes, I've done it. And I did stand up. Well, the first time I did it was they asked me to do chair or was it called couch? Yeah. Yeah. And then, but I had never done standup on Valorant and I was supposed to. Before I got SNL, I thought my big break was that I was going to do standup on Fallon. Yeah. Yeah. So I had, they had seen me at JFL and they were like, we'll give you a spot on Fallon and I was like, Oh my God, this is going to be amazing. And then I got SNL and then that changes things because you have to. And you turn down. Get on the show. You don't even turn it down, but they go, you have to do the show. Then SNL decides when you do Fallon. Cause they. Yeah, that thing. And they go do set this day. Exactly. Now it's been a close on a lot. Jimmy, you'll do Jimmy, you're two. Exactly. Some stuff like that. So when I finally got to do the interview, he was like, do you want to do a little bit of standup? So I did my first time, I did two minutes out. And I did the interview and then he goes, do you want to go stand up? Okay. We had planned it out. Kind of fun. Yeah. And I got up and I did it. And I almost liked it because everybody's attention span is so short now that like it was actually just the right amount of standup. And it was like, you know, and they already, you already want them over. So how was that set, that two minutes set? Like, did you start out kind of slowly, but 45 seconds in you landed something? No, yeah, I went, I went hard. I practiced. I would imagine you saying that. Cause you're already working on the couch. You gotta just fucking. You gotta just start, you go right away. I'm Latino. And then you. I'm Latino. Just in case. The rest for the, for the rest of these jokes, all you gotta know is I'm Latino. I put the joke in the machine and then I press Latino. Don't want the people to be like, what's the word? Got to do this update. That's really quiet. I go to a restaurant. It's getting quiet. That's why he doesn't give me the bread. His consonants get. Why is it that when we eat the bread, we got to tear it up. I'm tearing the bread apart. I'm ripping the bread up on the table. There's a, there's a cacophony of crumbs on the table. And then the guy comes with a little, he's got a, he's got a shaver. He comes in with one of his shades, takes the stuff. Not as quality. First of all, you've got to do that in your standup. Even if it's like you do your regular standup and you come out in for your encore and it's sort of, you're talking about Domingo and this and that. So fun to do it. I have to stop. I feel like it's like annoying. Like I can't imagine if I was Sebastian and then there's a kid that keeps going into my voice. Oh no, I can't get enough of it. Here's what you do maybe, but I don't, if you go out on update, if you go out on update as Sebastian, you literally just say factual things. I'm coming on the show sitting in the chair. It's also funny if he's like, most cargo trucks have 18 wheels. Yeah. Well, if you walk, what if you walk by, if you walk by update and then you go, Sebastian, what are you doing here? And you go, you were just at a restaurant and then you got lost and they go, Oh, what happened to the restaurant? You sit down and then you go, I'm sitting there and we sit down, but I know I don't sit up. This is not the table we're going to sit. Cause my wife's going to complain. I think my warm-up, we're going to move. So I wait. Remember he does that joke for you to sit down. So I'm up, I'm up late at night. I get tired and I lay down in the bed with the pillow, with the lights out. There's a little bit of walking in there too. Yeah. And I'm sleeping. No. Just that he's making a benign. Yeah. I also just love that stuff, those jokes. Like those are the jokes that I love the most are the jokes that are about something that's just so minuscule. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That stuff makes me, I love that stuff. Like your toenails. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They got band-aid, shun that toast. I'm supposed to go swimming. You know, I'm just quoting. I wanted to do something about how when a guy goes to the airport in a motorcycle. Oh, yeah. You're gonna put the helmet in the overhead. Can knock over everything. Knock everything over. No, but I'm sorry. I feel like I have to say sorry to Sebastian because I can't stop doing. Oh, no, Sebastian. It's a love letter. I told him on, he was on our podcast. I said, musicality and physicality, which is a lot of what you do too. And that's very potent when you're physically funny and then verbally funny. Does it look familiar? A little bit of a symposium. I have four pages on you. Can I see something and see maybe there's a question I would like to answer? Yeah, this is just your research. Okay, and who did this? We got it from the top here. No, it's another guy with COVID back east that he sends it in. I'm not showing you my real quick. I had a quick question. Yeah, please. When was comedy your job? When did you stop doing any other job and comedy was your job? How much did you make at that point? It wasn't until SNL. Before then you were still your coach in a team or something? I was coaching a team, but I was doing that for free at my high school. But no, so I worked for this Instagram account. That was my first real, that's what I felt like I had like a non real job. Miami Dade. Yeah, only in Dade, which is an account that does all this news about Miami. And I got like truly at that time, it felt like the honor of being like a modern day like news anchor because it's only on Instagram and TikTok. And I'm sitting in my house with a camera and I'm editing it myself. And it's just me being like this week in Miami, this happened, this happened, this happened, this happened. And that job definitely was like the first time because I moved out of my mom's house. And so that job paid me enough to like move out. So I was working that job and a different job. And then I told my boss, hey, man, I really want to do this with you guys. I don't want to have to work my nine to five and this. Is there a way you can pay me enough to get me out of? And he did. And I got out of it and I could pay my rent, doing videos. At the same time, I was writing for some for a podcaster. And at the same time, I was coaching a guy to do stand up. I was like, go into his house, a couple hundred bucks and like writing jokes for him at his house because he was like a businessman that just sold his business. And he wanted to do stand up. And so I was like writing jokes for him for 200 bucks a week or something. I was like, this is amazing. Every time I sit with him for a couple hours, I get a couple hundred bucks. Right. And so that's how I was covered. And then at the time also I was touring with Mark Vieira and the Gilbert God freed I got to tour with. Oh, really? And Tim Dillon. Gilbert's the funniest dude. He was. Gilbert. My gosh. Gilbert was the best. And Gilbert, he just loved candy. And he needed. And his impressions. Oh my God. It was just so weirdly funny. Yeah. He's got a weird delivery. One night he wanted muffins and I'm like, I felt like I'm going to do whatever he needs. So I'm like, getting this guy, we need the muffins for Gilbert. Gilbert needs the muffins. And I can't tell Gilbert is just like the sweetest thing on earth. But the next day in the morning, my job is to go to his door. Knock, get him out. Take him to the car, go to the airport, fly home. So I go knock on the door, open the door. He opens the door for me. He's like, I'm just finishing up packing. And I look and he's putting the muffins in his suitcase. And I'm like, you are just the best of all time. And yeah, just he was dry. I drove with him for a few hours also a few times and just his jokes in the car. Gilbert. Yeah, he's so crazy. I stayed with him for a week one time, lived with him and it was same kind of crazy eating like frosted flakes in the morning and like those old school cereals. And it was it's always odd when you're on the comedian, you're staying doing gigs and you're in the same house or condo. The comedians come. Yeah, comedy condo. I've been in a lot of those. Yeah. Those beds. Yeah, it's bad. I mean, it's not bad. It's sexy. Bad is like a nine to seven nightmare job. Dishwasher. Holiday. Nine to five to nine to seven. Even thousands. Even like a sales job that I was working. That's a headset in your house. That's not fun. Like, like if you want to. This is Marcello. Telemarketing. Yeah, I was doing that. I was going, um, I know this is Marcello and I'm calling on behalf of your health center. I would name the health center. And I'm just calling to let you know that we can get your medicines delivered to your house at no additional cost to your shirts. That's pretty good. And they would be like, you're a thief. You're an animal and you're a thief. And then the daughter would come in and be like, who is this? And I'm like, oh, I'm sorry. Um, I'm just, I'm calling on behalf of the health center. I'd like to get your parents, um, you know, um, medicines delivered at no additional cost to your insurance. Is that you animal? How dare you try to take advantage of my mother? And do you do this in your standup? No, no, no, no. Make a note. I think it's a chiller. So I think you can extend your way that and make it a little. They think I'm taking advantage of. Well, because it's real time to hear a few jokes. They, you go, I got you on the phone. Can you hear my new bit? What are you? What is the episode that you guys have like the most of the show? Outside of outside of this one, of course, this one might blow up. Who is it? We mean our biggest banger from this. Yeah. Well, in the early days, we just tapped all our really close friends that are superstars Tina Fey, Adam Sandler, Tom Haymarn, Maya Rudolph. I don't know. We, yeah, they're the best. Seeing them pop by the show is always crazy. Yeah, it's really fun to. Would you were part of the, you know, a heritage of our show. It's a 100 percent. We feel like we all need to eat. So let's wrap it up. Do you want me to take you to eat for real? Do you get a rest now or do you go to another thing? We're going to chill a little bit today and then tomorrow we go to my or yeah tomorrow. Wednesday, we go to Miami and then I go to Gainesville. Then I go to Boston and then I'm back in New York and I'm all that before the next show. Yeah. Oh, well, I don't get back. To my house till Sunday. Oh, Super Bowl is this Sunday, right? Yeah. All right. Well, go Pat's or sea chickens. Say thanks for coming on, Dan. Dude, thank you guys for having me. Thank you. Can I say something nice? Yes. Um, I think, um, to both of you, I think I came being on the show is always like every time you go there, you feel like it's the first egg a little bit. Yeah. And I bet when you came back, you also felt like, whoa, it was weird. It was weird. But, um, you guys have been so kind to me and I appreciate it. And, um, I am always quite scared. I think it's a fair word to use about this whole, the whole thing I'm doing. It all feels crazy and it's happening. Even when it's happening slow, it's happening fast. And I appreciate you guys being kind and sweet and being doing bits with me. And, you know, because I can be a lot and you guys have accepted me. And I appreciate it. We have very same thing. I put, you know, right back at you, man. I also think you guys are aging beautifully. That's nice. I was waiting for. So, so are you. I remember at one point I told you, I just said in the hallway, I go, because I watched how you operate. Maybe, you know, I said, there's nothing I can teach you. Yeah. There's nothing I can tell you, you know, but I will ask you that. That's always the best advice you get is somebody going like, just keep doing it. Yeah. All the best people told you. And I think you're going to be, even have more fun this year. I think four under your belt in the fifth year, I think where you get, there's levels of relaxation and confidence in the audience discovering you and vice versa. And then it gets even exponentially more fun. That was my experience in your five. Yeah. Well, I appreciate you both. And you both are wearing very sensible footwear. Look at this fucking shoes. They're not bad. These guys, man. We never had anybody do SNL. Do the fucking Grammys coming out. Takes a bubble bath before the podcast. Yeah, you walk in and wash your face. So low for the place. Thank you for coming. Thank you for looking good. You're very cute. And I'll see you at lunch. All right, let's go. Bye, guys. Hey, guys, if you're loving this podcast, which you are, be sure to click follow on your favorite podcast app. Give us review five star rating. Maybe you can share an episode that you've loved with a friend. 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