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🚨GOP Reps Turn Against Military Officials at Public Hearing!!

28 min
May 16, 202614 days ago
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Summary

Republican Congress members joined Democrats in bipartisan criticism of the Trump administration's decision to withdraw 4,000 troops from Poland and reduce forces in Eastern Europe, with military officials unable to provide strategic justification for the move. The hearing revealed coordination failures, lack of allied notification, and concerns about weakening NATO commitments amid Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

Insights
  • Bipartisan congressional opposition to military decisions signals potential limits on executive defense authority, even within Republican-controlled Congress
  • Last-minute troop withdrawal decisions without allied consultation damage credibility and create strategic vulnerability in contested regions
  • Military leadership appears constrained in defending policy decisions, suggesting disconnect between Pentagon officials and civilian leadership directives
  • Congressional oversight mechanisms (statutory consultation requirements) are being bypassed, creating accountability gaps in defense policy
  • Elimination of civilian protection programs contradicts stated military priorities and federal law compliance obligations
Trends
Erosion of NATO alliance cohesion through unilateral US force reductions without partner consultationCongressional reassertion of defense oversight authority against executive unilateralismDecoupling of US military posture from European security architecture amid great power competitionInstitutional tension between Pentagon career officials and political appointees on strategic prioritiesWeakening of civilian casualty mitigation frameworks in military operationsPoland and Baltic states increasing defense spending while questioning US commitment reliabilityRussia and China capitalizing on perceived US strategic withdrawal from European theaterCongressional frustration with lack of strategic rationale for major force posture changes
People
Pete Hegseth
Made decision to withdraw troops from Poland and Eastern Europe without adequate consultation or strategic justification
Dan Driscoll
Testified before Armed Services Committee regarding troop withdrawal decision and civilian casualty mitigation programs
Don Bacon
Led bipartisan criticism of troop withdrawal, called decision 'reprehensible' and 'slap in the face' to Poland and al...
Randy George
Pushed out and replaced by new Army Chief of Staff under Hegseth's direction
Joe Courtney
Questioned military officials on strategic messaging of troop cancellation to adversaries and allies
Austin Scott
Republican committee member aligned with Democratic colleagues in criticizing last-minute troop withdrawal decision
Jason Crow
Raised concerns about elimination of civilian protection center of excellence and DOD compliance with federal law
Mike Rogers
Committee chair expressing alignment with bipartisan criticism of troop withdrawal and lack of statutory consultation
Adam Smith
Democratic ranking member aligned with Republican colleagues in criticizing Trump regime military decisions
Sean Parnell
Issued statement defending troop withdrawal as comprehensive process, contradicted by congressional testimony
General Grinkiewicz
Received direction for force reduction; testified regarding consultation on troop withdrawal decision
Tom Felty
Gave remarks about strategic signaling of armored brigade deployment before cancellation
Donald Trump
Administration's defense policy decisions criticized by bipartisan Congress members for strategic incoherence
J.D. Vance
Part of administration leadership making controversial defense policy decisions
Marco Rubio
Part of administration leadership making controversial defense policy decisions
Quotes
"It's reprehensible. It's an embarrassment to our country how we just, what we just did to Poland, in my view."
Don Bacon, U.S. Representative (R-Nebraska)Congressional hearing testimony
"Russia has invaded Ukraine. Have they given us any concessions to withdraw two armor brigades out of Europe as they're invading Ukraine? What concessions have they given us as we withdraw forces?"
Don BaconCongressional hearing testimony
"This is a slap in the face to Poland. It's a slap in the face to our Baltic friends. I think it's a slap to the face in this committee."
Don BaconCongressional hearing testimony
"If our adversaries are paying attention, is the cancellation of a deployment of a brigade combat team sending again, the opposite signal in terms of our commitment to our allies in Eastern Europe?"
Joe Courtney, U.S. Representative (D-Connecticut)Congressional hearing testimony
"This is law. If you don't like the law, we can talk about that. What needs to be changed, but it has to be changed here. So long as it is law, it needs to be carried out."
Jason Crow, U.S. Representative (D-Colorado)Congressional hearing testimony on civilian casualty mitigation
Full Transcript
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This was before the Armed Services Committee where Republican Congress members joined with Democratic Congress members on a fairly bipartisan basis to call out the Trump regime's attack on our military. And these Congress members were not holding back in their questions to these top military officials, including the Army Secretary Dan Driscoll, as well as the new Army Chief of Staff who replaced the very popular Army Chief of Staff, Randy George, who was pushed out and fired by Pete Hegseth. So let me show you what went down when Republican Congress member Don Bacon was cross-examining Driscoll and the other top military officials there, including the Army Chief of Staff and other top Army officials who were at this hearing about the decision by Hegseth and the Defense Department to withdraw about 4,000 troops that were being deployed to Poland, which obviously is critical, given its proximity to Ukraine and Russia, and given the fact that Poland is a model ally and Donald Trump and Hegseth are punishing Poland the same way they were punishing Germany and attacking NATO. Watch Republican Congress member Don Bacon's questioning of these top military officials from the Trump regime. Let's play it. Lanif, for being here, I know this wasn't your decision. This was the Secretary of Defense's decision. Like I tell you, it was reprehensible. It's an embarrassment to our country how we just, what we just did to Poland, in my view. I know you said we had coordination with NATO or UConn. The answer, the question, the real question is why? Why have we pulled two armored brigades out of Eastern Europe? Yeah, sure. I'm not on the policy side here. But you are the Chief of Staff, the Army. There is no good explanation while we just removed two armored brigades from Eastern Europe. There's got to be some explanation. Well, sure, I think as they reviewed the force structure, the conclusion was that we could reap back one of the brigades that are in the rotation. One brigade, one brigade that's in the rotation pole that we send over to Europe. There's still another brigade there. There's still a division headquarters that's in rotation there. We still have fifth corps that is over there as well. But we pulled the brigade out of Romania. Now we're pulling the brigade out of Poland. Is there a plan to replace that brigade in Poland? That you would have to ask the COCOM commander, sir, on how he's going to maneuver the forces that he has. We still have a force structure that is permanent force structure that's in Europe supporting our allies through both exercises and continual presence on the continent. I know there's a maybe that represents 100% of people in this committee, but I think I represent the views of the vast majority. We disagree. Russia has invaded Ukraine. Have they given us any concessions to withdraw two armor brigades out of Europe as they're invading Ukraine? What concessions have they given us as we withdraw forces? Sure, I can't answer that question. Well, I know it, this is none. And it's just, this is why it's so foolish. We're sending a terrible message to Russia and to our allies. Here's another question. Do we know if Poland was notified by the secretary? We don't know. Well, I already know the answer because they called me yesterday. They did not know. They were blindsided. These are some of our best allies and they had no idea. They still don't know what the plan is. They know, okay, the order was stopped. They don't know if this is just a suspension or permanent. We owe Poland and our Baltic friends who are very vulnerable from this decision a better explanation here. And in rational, we should be doing this before we actually make the decision. We should be coordinating with them. It's an embarrassment. I'm telling you, this is an embarrassment to our country the way this is being handled. And I happen to know the answer to this. Well, I'm gonna ask, did you say we coordinated with UCOM? I can guarantee you they did not say this was low risk. Can you verify that? Because I happen to know, they said it carries risk. So in other words, it was coordinated with UCOM but they did not say this is a low risk decision. Am I right? Sure, those discussions that risked that man from the co-commander back into OSTW. It's not part of what the title 10 of the Army does. I was just hoping as the Army Chief they would keep you better informed. But I happen to know this, because I served in NATO, they did not say this is low risk. So in other words, the Secretary of Defense made this decision over some objections of the UCOM commander. That's what I submit here. I just wanna say this is a slap in the face to Poland. It's a slap in the face to our Baltic friends. I think it's a slap to the face in this committee because we've put floors and restrictions on the Pentagon and further reductions in Europe because of what they did with Romania. They told this committee, or the leadership of this committee, that we were not going to, there was no plans to remove this brigade from Romania than a week later, it was done. So then we responded in the NDA to prevent this kind of behavior and it's happened again. I think this committee under the chairman, the Iraqi member, we gotta hold the Secretary accountable for this decision, it's wrong. Okay, my second question, I know I'm the Baltic security chairman, Lafya and Estonia have high Mars, but they just have the launchers, they don't have the warheads or the weapons. What is the plan to fill that? Next, I'll show you another Congress member, this time a Democratic Congress member, Congress member Courtney's questions of these officials. Let's play this clip. Secretary Driscoll, on May 1st, 4,000 Army soldiers of the second armored brigade combat team attended a color casing ceremony, a send off ahead of deployment to Eastern Europe that the Army had announced last March. At the ceremony, Major General Tom Felty, who's the head of the First Cavalry Division, gave some very stirring remarks where he said, quote, make no mistake, our adversaries are paying attention when an armored brigade combat team deploys forward, it sends a clear and unmistakable signal. The ABCT is the embodiment of American ground combat power, given the fact that the administration just canceled this deployment a couple of days ago, we had people actually already over there right now. I guess the question sort of begs itself, which is, is the opposite true? If our adversaries are paying attention, is the cancellation of a deployment of a brigade combat team sending again, the opposite signal in terms of our commitment to our allies in Eastern Europe? I sure thank you for the question. We, the COCOM commander, General Grinkiewicz, you know, received the instructions on the force reduction. I've worked with him in close consultation on what that force unit would be, and it was made the most sense for that brigade to not do its deployment in theater. We continue to work closely with General Grinkiewicz and his team on ensuring that he has the right forces from us, the Title X headquarters here, that man's trains, equips, and gets the units ready for their deployments. So we worked with him on what would be the unit that would not execute the mission. Well, again, I think General Felte is right that our adversaries are paying attention, and I appreciate the answer, but frankly, I don't think that really raises to the moment in terms of just, again, the situation that exists in Europe. And frankly, it's not just our adversaries that are paying attention, it's our allies. Poland, which is apparently where the deployment was at least gonna begin and originate, is an ally that's spending 4.8% of GDP in terms of their defense budgets, and all the other Baltic countries are up in that range as well. And given the fact that the administration also canceled or is pulling back 5,000 troops out of Germany, I'm sorry, I just think this is a horrible message that, again, our adversaries and allies are paying attention to. I'm so excited to tell you about our sponsor, Avocado Green Mattress. Their certified organic mattresses are specifically designed to relieve pressure points, support your body the way it needs, and help you actually get the deep restorative sleep that you've been missing. Every mattress is made with thoughtfully sourced materials and built with real care. So you get incredible sleep night after night. When I invested something from my home, I want it to last. That's what I love about Avocado. 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In this next clip I'm gonna share for you, I wanna show you that this was done on a fairly bipartisan basis in the Armed Services Committee because the decisions that are being made by these top military officials, specifically at the Defense Department and at the Oval Office level, Donald Trump, J.D. Vance, Marco Rubio, Hegzeff in that level, it's so dangerous, it's so harmful to NATO, it's so harmful to our allies, that even Republicans are speaking up. So you have the head of the committee, Congress member Rogers, you have this guy, Austin Scott, a Republican Congress member from Georgia, and then you have the Democratic Ranking Member, Congress member Smith. All three of them are in alignment here, calling out the Trump regime, the Trump regime military officials. Let me show you what went down here. Let's play this clip. When was the Second Armored Brigade rotation two-pole and canceled? Just a couple of days ago, Congressman. Okay, a couple of days ago. And when were, so who made the decision to halt that? Sure, in consultation with the COCOM commander, he received the direction to do the reduction. We looked at what would be the best choice. When did he receive that direction? Sure, I'm not sure exactly the date that he received it, this was all, you know, relatively recent. And we worked back and forth on what those recommendations would be and the order came down. I can let me, I'm sorry, I'm short on time. You say recent, when you say recent, you mean 10 days or two months? Yeah, I think it's probably been within the last two weeks. Okay, within the last two weeks, the decision was made. So this has been a long plan. My understanding is advanced elements were already overseas, is that correct? That's correct, sir. And equipment was in transit? Yes, sir. Okay. When were you informed of the decision, General? Just a couple of days ago, whenever, well, within that two week window, sir, whenever we worked together with the COCOM commander, again, Title X. I understand. And Secretary Driscoll, were you informed at the exact same, I assume you were informed at the same time? Yes, Congressman. Okay. Were you consulted about the decision prior to the decision being made or was the decision made and you told this is the decision and we're gonna stop this rotation? I had consultations with General Grinković on different elements that are in Europe and what would be the most prudent one to stop? Okay, and these conversations were all within the last two weeks? That's correct, sir. Okay. All right, I support NATO. I will say this. I mean, obviously there's a tremendous overlap between NATO and the European Union. I'm very frustrated with the European Union on a lot of trade related issues. And I've told our NATO partners in my office very directly, you know, you don't get to pretend you're our friends when you pass non-tariff trade barriers through the European Union that damaged industry in the United States, like the timber industry with what they've done with the European Union deforestation regulation. So I understand it's tough to balance all of these things. But I wanna get to, I mean, my primary concern, I'm not worried about the 5,000 troops coming out of, out of Germany. I mean, they had been plus up, they're being pulled back. But it seems to me that when there's been a long planned rotation, it's a nine month rotation, how long have we been doing these rotations? They're done on an annual... Yeah, we've been doing them for a couple of years now, sir, since the invasion. But we also continuously do planning on what the force elements will be utilized by the Co-Comm commanders based off the needs that they present. But our... The advance were already there. The equipment was already on the way before the decision to cancel was made, correct? All right, I wanna read what the... This is what the Pentagon said. The decision to withdraw troops follows a comprehensive multi-layered process that incorporates perspectives from key leaders in US military in Europe and across the chain of command, said acting Pentagon Secretary Joel Valdez. This is not an unexpected last minute decision. I don't... I don't see how that statement can be true. Congressman, I would say outside of the broader specifics that General Laniva is talking about, we are constantly in contact with OSW and the combatant commanders. We're having planning and this is not meant to hide the ball. This is to say this type of conversation is going on throughout the year, every single year, and the Army is always ready to move people and things based off combatant commander and secretary of work preferences. And so this is not that unusual. Secretary, I respect you. These are major decisions that appear to many of the members of this committee to be last minute decisions. Gentlemen's time's expired and the gentleman is correct. And we have been very focused on this committee about force posture and you comment particular, not being disturbed, particularly without what statute requires, it's consultation with us. And we didn't get that. So we don't know what's going on here, but I can just tell you, we're not happy with what's being talked about, particularly since there's been no statutory consultation with us. The ranking members recognize. I emphasized that point and I yielded my question time, but the one thing I really want, and we talked about this yesterday, General, why? Okay, I came getting answer to that question. All right, we had a brigade combat team ready to go to Poland, decided not to. And the only answer I've got is, well, that's what they told us to do. Okay, why? I mean, what is the strategy behind this? And it is a pretty dramatic decision to what the last minute, pull a team that you're trying to send over there. If there's some strategy behind it, then you guys ought to know and you ought to be able to communicate it to us. And now I want to share with you as well. You have a Democratic Congress member, Crow. Here he was cross examining Driscoll and this was a very important moment as well. Let's remember that Congress member Crow, Special Forces, Army Ranger, saw very, very serious combat tours, knows a lot about the Army, obviously, given his positions in the past, given that he's a veteran, given that he served. Let me show you as he raises what I think is a very critical issue, the fact that the Trump regime has gutted the teams that deal with mitigating civilian casualties in war, especially as the Trump regime has engaged in all of these war crimes. Let me share with you what went down. Let's play it. Both combat veterans both served honorably in the Army. And during the course of my three combat tours, I had the privilege of serving at the so-called tip of the spear, some of our most elite combat units, 82nd Airborne Division, 75th Ranger Regiment, served with the Joint Special Operations Command in Afghanistan. And I bristle at this notion coming from the Department of Defense from Secretary Hegzett that we somehow lack lethality. There's something wrong with our culture because the men and women who I served with were committed to the mission and fought very hard and were very lethal when it came for the time for that. But over the course of those tours, what became very obvious to me is that what we did lack was a full understanding about how to win the support of local populations, how to lay the groundwork for support for what we were trying to achieve. That we were very good with missions, very great with tactics in accomplishing every mission. But we ultimately lost the support of the people in Iraq and Afghanistan who we were there to serve and to help liberate. So I created a bipartisan law in 2023 to create a civilian protection center of excellence to assemble the best practices to understand how we protect civilians. We make that a priority for our military. That CPCOE passed on a bipartisan basis years ago. It was nestled in the army where it exists. I'm very concerned by a recent DOD IG report that says, quote, in February, 2025, the acting undersecretary of defense and the secretary of the army each developed proposals for the sect def to consider and approve options to eliminate or significantly reduce the CPCOE. How do you square that with law in the bipartisan intent of this committee, including many fellow combat veterans that we make this a priority for our military? Congressman, I just wanna start off with the statement that as somebody that also deployed to theater about the time you're talking about civilian casualties, no one should wish for those and they create all sorts of beyond just the morality issues. They create all sorts of negative externalities for a mission that are just bad for the mission. And so we in the department of war in the army are perfectly aligned that we wanna minimize those in every instance, specifically what you're referencing, Congressman, as far as I recall, and I will follow up with your offices if this is incorrect, our intent was simply to move it from the army to DOW. I don't think we had any intention to shrink it. There was an instance about a month and a half ago where I believe I spoke with your office where in doing some, the United States army had never matched up its people and its jobs. And so we spent about 10 months going through an exercise to try to save the American taxpayer at about $2 billion a year. And what we had found out in that process is we had never accurately coded the positions for the center so that when we went through that exercise, it looked as if we were getting rid of it. I believe after we spoke with your office, we immediately remitted it. I, we need to follow up. I know our offices have been talking, but things are not squaring here, right? This DOD IG report is pretty clear. There are proposals to eliminate CPCOE, which is different from a coding shift or an accounting shift of personnel and resources because that report went on and it said, I found that lost personnel and leadership at COE is hindering full DOD compliance with its civilian casualties and harm policy, a policy required by federal law. The office of the secretary of war and DOW components lack many of the personnel and tools designed to execute the statutory purpose. So something's not happening. It is not conducting its statutory role and mission. It's losing personnel, it's losing resources. It's being shifted around. This needs to be fixed because this is law. If you don't like the law, we can talk about that. What needs to be changed, but it has to be changed here. So long as it is law, it needs to be carried out. Totally agree, Congressman. We'll follow up with your office and just to speak on behalf of the army. The intent is to follow all statutory intent and the laws. And so we'll make sure that we're in compliance. Thank you, secretary. Now you had Don Bacon, Republican Congress member posting the following. I just wanna say that what the Trump regime is doing is that this is a slap in the face to Poland. It's a slap in the face to our Baltic friends. It's a slap in the face to this committee. And then in response, the Republican press secretary at the Defense Department, Sean Parnell posted, the decision to withdraw troops follows a comprehensive multi-layered process that incorporates perspectives from key leaders in UCOM, European command, and across the chain of command. This was not an unexpected last-minute decision, and it would be a false report. It would be false to report it as such. The truth is what the Politico headline says, no idea it was coming, Pentagon officials stunned by Hegsett's decision on troops in Poland. It wasn't clear why the defense secretary issued the order not to send troops on a routine mission to a country the administration refers to as a model ally to which Republican Congress member, Don Bacon writes, this is baloney for starters, Poland was not notified. Senior leaders contacted me yesterday saying they were blindsided. And I've learned that UCOM did not say there was minimal risk by canceling the deployment. This was a foolish and embarrassing course of events, but it was also a course of events that you must ask yourself, who is this benefiting? It's benefiting Putin, right? By creating a situation where Poland is now more vulnerable, and a message is being sent that the US isn't gonna support Poland, the same way the US isn't supporting Ukraine, at the same way Donald Trump is saying that he may withhold the weapons that are supposed to go to Taiwan after meeting with Xi Jinping. As Donald Trump's doing all of that, I mean, you see our adversaries, you see Russia and China, Kim Jong-un, and Iran, you know, all rising, pretty clear what's happening. Let me know what you think. Hit subscribe. Let's get to seven million subscribers. Thanks for watching, everybody. Want to stay plugged in? Become a subscriber to our sub-stack at mitusplus.com. You'll get daily recaps from Ron Filipkowski, ad-free episodes of our podcast, and more exclusive content only available at mitusplus.com. 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