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Speak, Fetch, Repeat: How Dogs Learn Words by Overhearing Humans

25 min
May 11, 202620 days ago
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Summary

This episode explores how certain dogs, called 'label learners,' can learn the names of objects by eavesdropping on human conversations rather than through direct instruction. The episode features a comedic narrative about a dog graduation ceremony at the 'Sit, Stay, Snoop' institute, which teaches dogs advanced language learning based on research from the University of Budapest. The episode also draws parallels between how dogs and human toddlers learn words through eavesdropping.

Insights
  • Only rare, intelligent dogs with specific breed characteristics (primarily herding dogs like border collies and Australian shepherds) can learn object names through eavesdropping, not all dogs
  • Label learners can identify correct objects 80% of the time after hearing humans discuss them, demonstrating sophisticated language comprehension without direct training
  • Herding dogs' natural tendency to pay close attention to human behavior makes them particularly suited for learning through eavesdropping
  • Human toddlers (around age 2+) learn words similarly to label-learning dogs through eavesdropping on conversations rather than direct instruction
  • Alternative learning mechanisms like process of elimination (demonstrated by Rico the border collie in 2004) may also explain some dogs' word-learning abilities
Trends
Growing scientific interest in animal cognition and comparative learning mechanisms across speciesRecognition that learning through environmental observation is as valid as direct instruction for certain intelligent animalsIncreased focus on breed-specific cognitive abilities and how evolutionary traits influence learning capacityParallels between animal and human developmental learning patterns gaining research attentionEducational programs leveraging scientific research to teach dog owners about advanced animal cognition
Topics
Dog cognition and language learningLabel learning in animalsHerding dog behavior and intelligenceEavesdropping as a learning mechanismComparative learning between dogs and human toddlersProcess of elimination in animal cognitionBorder collie intelligence and capabilitiesDirect instruction vs. observational learningUniversity of Budapest dog researchAnimal behavior studiesCanine vocabulary acquisitionBreed-specific cognitive traits
Companies
University of Budapest
Conducted the primary research on label-learning dogs that forms the basis for the Sit, Stay, Snoop program
Institute for Better Listening
Fictional institute featured in the episode that teaches the Sit, Stay, Snoop Advanced Language Learning Program base...
Tinkercast
Production company behind Wow in the World podcast and related educational content and merchandise
People
Mindy Thomas
Co-host of Wow in the World podcast who leads the episode narrative
Guy Raz
Co-host of Wow in the World podcast who provides commentary and analysis throughout
Jed Anderson
Provides sound design, music editing, and voices multiple characters including Dennis and Thomas Fingerling
Tom Van Calken
Co-writer of Wow in the World episodes
Rana Telgemeier
Mentioned as upcoming guest on Two What's in a Wow People Who Wow Edition starting Friday
Quotes
"These dogs are exceptional. They are what are known as label learners. They can learn to recognize words even when those words are not spoken directly to the dog."
Institute instructor characterMid-episode
"A label learner is a description of a dog's ability. It means not only can that dog learn a command word like sit or stay, but they can also learn the names of specific objects, like spaceship or dolphin."
Mindy ThomasMid-episode
"Herding dogs are prized for their ability to pay close attention to what their owners say and do."
Episode narratorMid-episode
"These dogs can learn the name of that toy by eavesdropping on your human conversation about the toy."
Institute instructor characterMid-episode
"They discovered that these intelligent dogs were able to grab the correct item 80% of the time. Just from snooping?"
Guy RazLate episode
Full Transcript
Hey WowsR fams, Mindy here, and before we start the show, guess what? You can join me every Friday for two What's in a Wow people who wow edition. In this Getting to Know You game show, I'll be visited by some of the world's most fascinating people to get the wows and the what's of their lives. From cartoonist and graphic novelist Rana Telgemeier of the Smile series to everyday extraordinary kids just like you. And that's not all. With this new season of Two What's in a Wow, there are now two ways to wow. What am I talking about? Well first, you can listen to episodes right here in our Wow and the World podcast feed. Or… and this is a big Or. Yeah, you're right Reg. That doesn't have the same ring to it. Okay, now where was I? Or… Yeah, as always you can listen to new episodes in your favorite podcast player or you can watch these episodes with your eyeballs on YouTube. I know, I should comb my hair or something. We are so excited for you to listen and watch our new season of Two What's in a Wow, People Who Wow Edition starting this Friday. So make sure you're subscribed to our podcast feed and our Wow Tube channel on YouTube so you don't miss out. That's Two What's in a Wow, People Who Wow Edition coming this Friday. And now a quick ad break and then we'll get on with the show. You know, I don't mean to boast, but my brilliant little boo-boo bear knows 150 words. Okay, it's like I can't even mention the words yo-yo or muffin or phone in conversation without him running off and grabbing one of his toys of the same name. Oh, wow, that's… Astonishing, I know, 150 words. I mean, come on. I mean, someone call it genius. Yeah, genius, right. But enough about me and boo-boo bear. How many words does your little snooter-boodle know? My who? You know your little blipper baby, the one you're here for, the one graduating from the program today. How many words do they know? How many what words? I don't know, like all of them? Oh my, all of them you say. Well, just have to see about that. Hey, Mindy. Sorry to interrupt, but could I get your help with a little situation we're having over by the refreshments table? Oh, sure, Guy Roz. Sorry. I was talking to you, Miss Lady. Oh, it's Diana. Mindy, come on. So sorry, gotta run. Oh, come on. What was that all about? Guy Roz, how many words do you know? What? This brisket tastes like dog food. Madam, that is dog food. Oh boy. I know that. I would like two more, please. Madam, please, these refreshments are for the graduates after the ceremony. Well, I know that. I think, Grandma G. Forrest, maybe just put down the dog trees and leave this poor gentleman alone. Excuse me, sir. Oh, no. These foot baths are a little cold. What? No, get your feet out of the water bowls. Thomas Fingerling, where are your shoes? Oh, hey there, Mr. Ozzie. Okay, everyone, please take your seats. The ceremony is about to begin. Okay, come on, Grandma G. Forrest. Thomas Fingerling, come on. Time to sit down. Well, I ain't going nowhere till I get two more of them little biscuit boys. Grandma G. Forrest, you can have a treat after Dennis' ceremony, okay? Come sit down. You too, Thomas Fingerling. Come on, let's go. No way, dude. I'm in the middle of my bath. Come here, come on. No. Fingerling. No. Let's go. I'm going to go. I'm going to go. That's a bad Grandma G. Forrest. Sit. I don't want to do that. Sit. I don't want to do that. Oh, hello again. Having trouble with recall? Huh? You know, basic commands. Sit, stay, roll over. Oh, did somebody say roll over? Okay. Grandma G. Forrest, no. That was a good girl. Now, give me a treat. Of course. But first, you must sit. Sit. Woof. Double woof. What? I'm going to treat for you. There you go. That's good. Come on, everyone. I've got some seats saved for us in the front. All right. Is it just me, Guy Ross, or does something feel really weird about this place? Yeah, it's really strange, Mindy. What exactly did Dennis tell you about the ceremony? Well, he said he's been taking these self-improvement classes. Yeah. He said that they've been helping him to master things like discipline and following instructions and listening skills. Uh-huh. Welcome, everyone. On behalf of the Institute for Better Listening, we are so happy to introduce you to our fine graduates of our six-week Sit, Stay, Snoop Advanced Language Learning Program. Sit, Stay, Snoop. Mindy, what is this? I don't know. Our Listening and Obedience program is based on new research from the University of Budapest. The friends that you're about to meet have developed vocabularies hundreds of words in size. Mindy, did he say obedience program? Oh, boy. Presenting our graduates Banjo, Noodles, Tater Tot the Third, Boo Boo Bear, and the Dennis. What? Dogs? What's left? I'm a good boy. Yes, you are. Treat. Yay! Okay. That's more of a looking dog. Oh, snap. Now, prior to the research from Budapest, we here at the Institute for Better Listening relied on direct instruction in order to teach dogs new words. Direct instruction? Yeah. So, you know, you can use your hands like, you know, sit, stay, holding up a toy and just saying the name of it over and over and over again until the dog starts to connect the name with the toy? Ah, of course. But now, we've learned that a few rare, intelligent dogs have a special skill. A skill that demonstrates the extent of their amazing language learning abilities. And that special skill is… Yes. The skill is… Yes. Win it out, boy. Eavesdropping. Eavesdropping. Otherwise known as snooping. That's right. What, what, what? Okay. This is starting to make a little more sense now. The dogs you see before you here are exceptional. They are what are known as label learners. They can learn to recognize words even when those words are not spoken directly to the dog. Wow. Kiraz, I didn't know dogs can snoop. Me neither. Is that why Dennis is here? To learn how to snoop like a dog? Hello. Hi, it's me, Diana, again. Hi, Diana. Aren't you just so proud of your little pupper snub? Eh. Which one is yours? Ah, that one. Woof woof. I'm a dog. Yes, you are. Treat. Hooray! Oh, my. What breed is he? A very rare breed. A dog. Excuse me. Woof woof. Yes, I see. Now, as I was saying, the dogs here before you are a select, rare, genius-level dog. They can learn and understand the names for hundreds of objects, such as toys. That's right. Genius-level. What? Dennis, sit. Oh, sorry. Sitting down, sir. Good boy. Here at Sit, Stay, Snoop, we evaluate how intelligent our students are by their ability to learn new words through snooping. Wow, so some dogs can learn human words without being taught directly? I guess so. They can learn by eavesdropping or snooping in on human conversations? Oh, yes. My dog, Boo Boo Bear, is a gifted word learner. I have a bumper sticker on my car to prove it. I enrolled him in Sit, Stay, Snoop to determine if he is a label learner. Label learner? Well, a label learner is a description of a dog's ability. It means not only can that dog learn a command word like sit or stay, but they can also learn the names of specific objects, like spaceship or dolphin. Interesting. Can any dog be trained to be a label learner? Oh, heavens, no. You see, a label learning dog is a very rare thing. For example, my Boo Boo Bear is a highly sophisticated border collie. In fact, you didn't hear this from me, but some of his relatives were used in the actual experiment conducted for the study that this class is based on. Wait, his relatives? Oh, yes. This experimental research from Budapest was conducted on a group of ten dogs, all deemed label learners. Now, most of the label learners were herding dogs breeds like border collies like my Boo Boo Bear and Australian shepherds. Of course, herding dogs. Those types of dogs are known to pay especially close attention to humans. Exactly. See, herding dogs are prized for their ability to pay close attention to what their owners say and do. Huh, so herding dogs are good snoopers. Well, yes, I suppose you could say that herding dogs are natural born snoopers. However, one of the dogs in the study was actually a Labrador Retriever. So label learning dogs can be found in other breeds too? It would appear so. Now, ladies and gentlemen, we would like to have our graduates demonstrate for you how they learn. A process we call sit, stay, snoop. Can I have two volunteers, please? Oh, oh, me, pick me. I love to volunteer. Wonderful. You there. Me? Oh, no, next to you, the lady in the lumpy leotard. Who's he talking to? He's talking to you, GeForce. What? Well, I have you know that this is a leotard and these lumps and pennies are fished out of the mall fountain. Excellent. Please come to the stage and bring that gentleman next to you. Who me? Go up there, Thomas Fingerling. Come on, Fingerling. We're volunteers. OK, fine. Now, to demonstrate how intelligent our graduates are. I believe the word you are looking for is genius. Dennis, no barking now. Oh, sorry. Yes, teacher. To demonstrate how genius our graduates are, we will teach them a new label right here, right now. OK, Grandma GeForce. What? Please select a dog toy from this basket. OK, I want this one. Oh, no, that is the basket itself. Please select a toy from the basket. I want this one. Ooh, good choice. The sugar donut plushie. Oh, let me see, let me see. Dennis, sit. Sitting. Stay. I'm staying. Snoop. Yes, sir. Now what? Now what? Now, this toy, the sugar donut plushie, is unknown to our dogs. They have never seen it before and are going to learn the name of it. OK, I get it. Come here, doggies. Watch and learn. This thing here is called a disco bagel. You got that? Disco bagel. No, no, no. Grandma GeForce, we're not teaching the dogs directly. What do you mean? Eh, what do you mean? I mean, these dogs are geniuses. We don't need to teach them by addressing them directly. These dogs can learn the name of that toy by eavesdropping on your human conversation about the toy. So what? You just want me to talk to Fingerling about it? Exactly. You and Thomas Fingerling are going to talk to each other about this sugar donut plushie toy. You're going to say the name of it to each other and these dogs will learn. OK, here we go. Hey Fingerling, look at this disco bagel. Oh, that's a very nice disco bagel you got there, GeForce. Huh, disco bagel. What an interesting name. You're doing great. Let the dogs see the disco bagel, but do not look at them. Do not address the dogs. Just talk to each other. Well, this disco bagel is very round. It don't got no corners. See? Uh-huh. Disco bagel. And this disco bagel is brown. Yeah, brown disco bagel. And there is a hole through the middle of this disco bagel and I do not know what happened to it. Interesting. A little hole in the disco bagel. And this disco bagel is covered in sparkly sugar. Disco bagel. I get it. I get it too. What? What? OK, that should do it. Now, in both the experiment and our class, after the dogs eavesdropped on the humans talking about the new toy, we put the new toy into a bunch of other toys that the dogs already know the names of. Grammar GeForce. What? Please place the sugar donut. Disco bagel. Uh, right. Please place the disco bagel into this toy basket. OK, here basket. Here's a disco bagel. Hope you like it. Oh, toys! Park, park, park! Give it to me, give it to me, give it to me! Quiet, please. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Now, each dog will demonstrate its snooping ability. Banjo, come. Come Banjo. Good Banjo. Oh, good boy. Now, Banjo, go get the disco bagel. Good Banjo. That is the disco bagel. Very good. Here, Miss GeForce, put this disco bagel back into the toy bin, please. Why do I do everything around here? Their basket. Noodles, come. Good Noodles. OK, go get the disco bagel. Go on, Noodles. Go get it. Good Noodles. That is the disco bagel. So good. Wow, this is bonker balls, Guy Roz. These dogs all seem to be able to understand and remember the name of the toy. Yeah. Do you think all the dogs here will be able to find the disco bagel? I believe so. I heard that the scientists ran this experiment with their dogs several times over several days. Tater Tot the third. Come. Oh, good Tater Tot. Now, go get the disco bagel. And you didn't hear this from me, but they discovered that these intelligent dogs were able to grab the correct item 80% of the time. Just from snooping? Yes, can you believe it? That's incredible. Good job, Tater Tot the third. That is the disco bagel. Good boy. Boo boo bear, come. Oh, that's my boo boo bear. You can do it, boo boo bear. Mommy loves you. Oh, good boo boo. OK, now go get the disco bagel, boo boo bear. Yes. This Diana treats her dog like it's a real human baby. You know, Mindy, dogs aren't the only ones that snoop on conversation in order to learn new words. Really? There are other animals that do this? Yes, humans, specifically human babies. Oh, yeah. Human babies learn words by hearing other humans talk to each other too. Exactly. So what you're saying is that dogs are babies. What? No. So what you're saying is that babies are snoops? Oh, Mindy, that's not... well, yes, I guess I am kind of saying that babies are snoops. I knew it. But by babies, I don't mean infants. Humans start snooping, I mean, learning words through eavesdropping at around two years old. So toddlers. Snooping toddlers. Interesting. Do you think these label learning dogs are actually learning like toddlers, Kairas? I don't know for sure. It looks like it and it's very impressive, but it's possible something else is going on. You know, in 2004, there was another study involving a border collie like my Boo Boo Bear and this border collie named Rico could learn the names of new objects through the process of elimination. The process of elimination. I mean like crossing off the answers that are wrong so it's easier to find the right one? You didn't hear that from me. Wow, that's really advanced. Dennis, come. Woof, woof, woof. Bark, bark. Here I am. Oh, that's a good boy, Dennis. It's Dennis' turn. Let's see if he's a genius label learner too. He really is an ugly dog, isn't he? This is so strange. Hey, Ross, be supportive. You got this, Dennis. Okay, Dennis, go get the disco bagel. Woof, woof, woof. Can do. Here you go. Oops, sorry, Dennis. This isn't the disco bagel. This is a normal bagel with cream cheese. Oh, whoops. Let me try again. Here we go. Woof, woof. No, Dennis, this is a disco ball. What? That's what I thought you said. I'll be right back. This is not good. 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