1134: Early Masters Stock Watch, Founders Duel, Bryson in South Africa

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So, you know what else has a lot going on? Title of socials just dropped the new GTS drivers. They are out on their socials and they will be launching on tour this week as well. So, I'll be very curious to see who throws that in the bag. They've been on a run with the GT driver here of late, Cam Young, just last week. So, that's right. He hit the 375-yard drive, of course, with the GT. This is the first look of the new GTS2, GTS3, and GTS4 models that are debuting PGA Tour, LPGA, and Corn Ferry Tour. Listen, they market a lot of products through us. A lot of products. But every once in a while, they'll kind of pull you aside and be like, this one. All right, this is one we're really, really excited about. And we haven't touched it, haven't hit it, haven't seen it. But the buzz internally, I know, at Titleist is really, really high on this driver. And they've never let us astray on any of that. The things they've been most excited about ended up being a lot of our favorites. So, Titleist continues to be the most played driver on the PGA Tour. Every player in the top three at the Val's Bar was playing a GT driver and, again, still only a week removed from that Cam Young drive at TPC Sawgrass. And it's time for GTS. It's going to be a fun week. So, stay tuned. Titleist social channels for a lot more information about this big driver rollout that they have coming. At the Val's Bar, Sung Jae-In took a two-shot lead into the final round over Brant Snedeker. And David Lipsky, Sung Jae stunk today. It was really not good. 3 over 74 was not a factor. Snedeker shot 76, fell off the pace, but it was Matt Fitzpatrick continuing his steady play, made clutch birdie putts on the 15th and the 18th to 8-eak out David Lipsky by a single shot. Happy for Fitz. After all the hooliganism last week, T.C., which I know made you sick to your stomach. And you were not partaking in there down the final stretch at the players. But happy for Fitz to get back in the winner's circle. He looked like he had a lot of angst built up in that putt that he drained on 18. Really remarkable. Went bogey free over the last two rounds, the whole weekend. Birdie day 18, awesome birdie on 18, awesome birdie on 15. That course was baked out by the end of the day today. And, like, I don't know, Val's Bar, it wasn't an enjoyable tournament. It wasn't a good leaderboard. But I just, I love that golf course. There's always something there, T.C. I'm totally with you. There's something there that just makes it a little interesting. It's just in these guys' heads, like that par five that was at the fifth hole. Snedeker hit a kind of a just snap hook three wood off the tee there today. And he was trying to force it up by the green, you know, punching out all sorts of like just the Larry Packard double dog leg on that one on 14. Just some awkward holes coming down the stretch tough to have to hold greens. Yeah, just just a bizarre, like I've played it one time and I really enjoyed it. I mean, I played it and by all accounts, the other course over there, the Island course is supposed to be electric as well. But it's like, it's just the right amount of scruffy and burned out and kind of older season down there. And I don't know, I wish like, I think one of these years we're going to get a really fascinating tournament. I thought JT was going to win this week. He didn't think you finished in the 30s, but fits awesome victory. I showed a lot of grit coming back after last week. I'm with you. I don't think I love the golf course as much as you do. Like I think it's good solid. I like kind of the small greens, small corners of the greens that make it just it's a good, I mean 11 under par one without conditions. Like that doesn't happen very frequently on the PGA tour. It's usually a dart fest. I just was not feeling the fast part this week. It was just not a good watch. I'd struggle to keep my attention. I just got to put my head up when it's when it's time for that. And I was very uninvested with who's going to win it until fits like a merchant. I want fits to win this man. Like with what happened last week and just, you know, how strong his play has been over the last year plus and everything just felt like felt like he should have more PGA tour wins on his resume. And this, this felt like a proper win for it. It was only as it was his second PGA tour win. If you set aside the US open. Meanwhile, he's won what five different four or five different masters events, the Nordea masters, the Andalusia masters, the European masters twice, the British masters, all of that. But this is only his second one here here in Harbor town. So he's just stacking up, you know, kind of just very Midwestern vacation spots. Yeah. And he put your boy on the clock today. He, he titled on your boy ADDC. No longer my boy. No longer my boy. I've, I've, I've repudiated ADDC and I apologize to, to add to anyone and everyone for forever having been associated with him. For those that missed it, they were playing together. He had fallen way off. Adrian had fallen way off the pace and he was taken at times three minutes to play shots. Fits just went up ahead. He pulled almost a Ben crane or a Rory Sabatini Ben crane situation where he was up at the green and he was putting out by the time that, you know, ADDC had hit his shot back in the fairway. So I good on him. I think this is totally like it shouldn't be up to him to do. I think the group was, were they a hole behind at a certain point or they had fallen far enough behind that I don't know why they weren't been told had been told that they were out of position. But I think a warning at least went out to ADDC after that happened. And just rarely do you see a player take, you know, be such an alpha in that moment. Like, dude, I'm trying to win this tournament. Like, let's go dude. Come on. Like we're not doing this year. Okay. I'm not going to do the pace of play stuff. We TC if you want to do that in just a second, please feel free. I just wanted to jump in here and talk about, I think why this tournament always out punches like what it is in my mind. And TC, I truly think this goes back to like when you and I were out West in 2007, just like watching golf and go and skiing and generally being shitheads. But that was like when the joke of like John send in, I finished back to back runner up and then he would eventually win the tournament. But, but it's all to your point, like, like, it's always been a little bit weirdly difficult of a course. And I'm not smart enough to tell you like exactly why that is. But from when I was paying attention, I referenced that 2007 tournament, Calc one at 10 under the very next year, Sean O'Hare one at four under in a regular tour event. Like that's amazing. The year after that, Goosene at eight under and really up until COVID we haven't seen a single digit under par winner since, since COVID. But, but before that it'd be like, yeah, seven, eight under might win this tournament. And I think for me, it's always just been a change of pace from what I'm used to seeing maybe week to week on the tour. And I do slot it mentally, which is ironic given Fitz one at Harbor town and has now one here. And I kind of slot it with Harbor town and those horses that for whatever reason, they just stand out as kind of different than what a lot of the rest of the schedule is every year. And so it's technical. Yeah, yeah, I think there's a lot of, there's a lot of spots I mean, it starts on one there's a lot of spots where like, there's just weird angles and it takes driver out of guys hands or the like the way that the green is angled it makes the green effectively, you know, eight paces deep, nine paces deep and it gets firm you can't stop at these corners. Generally do a good job of having it firm and yeah, it's the ball runs it's and then the rough can be a little, you know, it can be a little thick and, you know, if the wing gets it just it can combine a lot of I love T.C. I think that's exactly right. It just presents like a little bit of a different challenge to these guys. And I do enjoy that. It's such a good piece of land to like you like, I think if you dropped anybody who would never been there had never heard of it on that piece of land they would they would not guess that they were in Florida. Right. Like that would be the 20th guess, as far as what state they were in and I think it's probably a better watch on Thursday and Friday. Like a Saturday, like I don't know I watched a lot of space around today and I was like man's feet back and then he promptly gets to probably gets to, you know, this the snake pit or whatever they call it and just immediately like just fans one. What was what hole was that I was 16. Yeah, just fans one like fans of three would like 40 yards into the lake. I mean not even fucking close. Nobody is close. Come on DC's close. I think his closest hole by hole. It's not week to week. It's truly a hole by hole that he's close for and then Jordan Smith is up on the leaderboard and it gives me false hope every time he's up there because I just see. I see Jordan S and then I'm like, Oh no, it's Jordan Smith, not Jordan speed. Gonna be an obvious answer here as I ask it. Who do you think had more birdies this week, speed or the winner, Matt Fitzpatrick? I mean, I would take speed. Yeah, he had 16 birdies fits at 15 birdies, but like Fitz. I mean Fitz had had what four bogies all week, which is crazy out there. He was fifth and strokes came off the tee second approach play 40 second and putting like this. It's not very often that the guy who wins finishes 40 second putting pretty neutral. And hope as I've got to say this, I'm going to check to make sure it's true, but I always do just think like Fitz is such a good putter. He is a pretty good putter. He's just not having a good start to the season putting it so far, but he's hitting the crap out of the ball right now is what has been, you know, quite quite surprising. But yeah, this this I weirdly with speed. This was like, I didn't stress about it at all. This week. I was just kind of like, Oh, he's good. I looked up the early morning round, whatever, when he started on Thursday or what would he see morning or afternoon. I forget and he was five 400 through five through five and I was like, ah, can't wait to see what happens next, but had a very strong like even tour socials like had something up there like speed goes to 500 and then quote tweeted just like he spent he finished at minus two. I think they're in on the bit now at this point. It was stuff that like shouldn't happen. Like he had a plot to go to like six under through however many holes and then he and then yeah and then he goes to minus. Like what the fuck? It's maddening, but I love it and I can't get enough of it. So I'll just point out Feds like obviously playing well. But but I mean, he shot a 70 in the opening round of the players last week and since then he's been 69 or 68 for 77 consecutive rounds. The guy's just playing really steadily good golf. It's not like he you know he's thrown in a 63 and then a 72 it's just very consistently good. It's fit on on great man trajectory. You guys hand these things out like candy on Halloween. So I mean, I mean like in 10 years like he's got a chance because I think he's going to be a part of a lot of European Ryder Cup team. So he certainly has a chance. He'll probably be a great captain. See this is why you guys are giving me shit privately all all week. Basically all months about my dude system here, but like this is that you guys are just calling my dude. You guys know, but I'm saying you give your your little bits. You give him you give stuff out too easily too fast too quick and you can't reel it in. Like that's that's the whole point of the dude system is like this is a talking about a great man trajectory. Every European Ryder Cup is now referred to as a great man. You guys have not been able to control yourself. There were a lot of great men last year. That was not the bit getting out of control. That was that was just it was the only guy in the field this week. All four rounds in the 60s. I love that's sick. I love it. Are you going to call him a great man? No, no, no. Okay. All right. Okay. Any more down the leaderboard you want to give us DC? Xander shot 65 today for a totally non competitive T four. Remind you of anybody you know? No, not at all. Marco Penge got 71. I was expecting him to kind of go and grab this thing. Good shot into 18 there at the at the finale, but just missed his spot by a foot or two on some of those holes. Come on down the stretch. Can you can I ask? Can I ask something on on dear Marco? I think it was Hicks today said this guy's like got superstar. He's he's got the makings of being a star and listen, I'm not saying that's wrong. I guess I'm coming to you guys. Did I just totally miss something? Have I, I know as I'm paternity leave, like it has not come across my desk that Marco Penge is necessarily ticketed for stardom. I was just taken aback by that comment. I think Hicks knew nobody was watching today. It's like, yeah, we get throw that in there. We need one to national opens last year. One of the one of the Danish and the well, so he went the open to Spaniard Spanish open and then actually, and then he won the what about China last year as well. So I don't know. I don't think pen pen. Randy, he's really facey. He's I talked to him at the at the first timers press conference at the players. He's got he's got just a really into fashion. Okay. He's long. He's got a lot in the tank lot in the tank. I think he just needs to figure out how to dump some of that speed, but I think the ceiling is there. Okay, we'll see how long you can sustain this. He's up to 39th in the world. Okay. Honestly, I like he's an interesting guy. I just when Hicks said that, I was like, Holy shit. If I like just like miss something completely. So he's a great interview to ready. Like he's a very likable guy. I'm team pinch. And he is like, he's not a ball speed imposter, but he's a ball speed freak. I'm not positive how well refined the rest of his game is a guy was not. I didn't think Val spar was jumping off the page in terms of great locations for him to compete, but he just had a kid couple weeks ago as well. And he's just getting back into things and to see him back playing as well that fast as I'm team pinch. I don't think he's on superstar watch, but I think he's like potential fringe rider cupper. Like, like, I think that's a possibility. Last year. Yeah, exactly. So, but I mean, we're talking. Yeah, Randy, you did miss when you were out. He didn't get into several clubs down in the Jupiter Palm Beach area because he refused because he was working with a team. Like because he was wearing athletic shorts, like he refused to dress up for the interview. I'm out of them then, which I know I respect that for the interview. Sorry, I thought I thought it was while he was playing. I thought you were going to say while he was playing. I take it back. No, he's just not putting on airs. He's won the Sunnydale foursome's with his wife before, which I think is a pretty cool feather in his cap. His stroke, his stroke's gain. I'm looking at his PGA tour stats, the stroke gain little chart. And it's like, essentially like an arrow pointing to off the tee and everything else is very enclosed. As I say, as I said, I don't know if he's not a ball speed imposter. I don't know what is because it's not looking great, but I believe he can emerge from the group of ball speed. Imposter. Imposter is not the right word for him. I think he's a little different than like a pot eater. I don't think I think he's a more real golfer than like the current form of alge's pot eater. He showed a lot today. Like he was he was grinding and he was getting up and down from some tough spots today. So, okay. Yeah, he's got my attention. Yeah, I appreciate that. TTC keep keep going down the leaderboard for us. The 74 today like doesn't properly capture how bad Sung Jae was. I mean, he was awful. He was five over through what 11 holes and then in his defense every time I looked up to watch the golf today, everybody was just driving it in the crowd and down the car paths and this is what this one's headed towards the crowd for this one's headed towards like half the time it was Sung Jae. It was just a bad golf being played those final few groups. A lot of commercials to a lot of commercials. It was yeah, it was like getting waterboarded. We got Cantley we got speed that ended up finishing T 11. The bridge man. T 14. Randy he remains first in the FedEx Cup. Wasn't sure if you're aware of that. Good finish for Gary Woodland. T 14 for him. Corey Connors very uncompetitive T 14 69 69 70 71. So sorry about about sneds. I know you were rooting for him to possibly be a playing captain. The president's got this year. He was so excited to make that joke tonight. You were like just frothing to make that joke. You I feel I'm sorry for you. The font around 76 just totally ruined that bit that you're going to keep going for for weeks probably, but it was random. It is like the yeah 45 year old brand Snedeker that I was kind of like is he still playing like is he still playing right? You got a sponsor. I forgot he got a sponsor exemption Memorial last year and finished top 10, but not a lot of top 10s for brand over the last four years or so. But it was that was a signal of like man, this might just be an off week for the PGA tour. I think the like the systems working though like Brooks teed it up to 18 Finau Tom Kim JT speak like you got a lot of good players team up in you know in an event like this trying to a they like the course and be. You know, they're trying to get points right they're trying to play their way into these these big events so on the back of two signature events like getting this the solid field that they got here is impressive and it's easy for a lot of these guys to take Houston off two weeks in front of Augusta and if you want to play Valero lead into it you can but so it does fit in the calendar if you don't want too much off time in front of the masters but you know it's not like the cognizant which just gets totally depleted. Of star power of where it is on the schedule is a tough spot on the schedule but a lot of guys make it work and that is an endorsement of golf course yeah. So I'm worried about Luke Clanton 7875. Just you know we'll just say that Cam Davis is really falling off. He was plus 10 Johnny Kiefer. EFL. Yeah, that was kind of a weird one to see. So anyway I see I see the rest of my time as far as Val's war goes. Well let's let's talk a little little stock watch here because there was one player in particular and we'll talk about him separately here that that piqued my my interest on this and I'll I'm going to explain this. I'll try my best to explain what I'm what I'm after with this question but we have less than three weeks until the Masters begins. I want to know who the top five are in your Masters power rankings and I want them listed in order. If you are actually trying to predict the winner and you have five picks to do it we're trying to cover the board. If I can pick the winner and I get five picks what five are you taking and let's say let's say in theory you get more points if if you think Ludwig's going to win and you pick him first you would get more points for that as a lead entity sees picks here but I want you to how would you cover the board because you got to leave off some somewhat interesting names. I found this exercise to be a little harder than I thought it would be. You're doing it to isolate a zander conversation. I don't necessarily think so. I think there's maybe a more interesting name that that may not appear on some lists or maybe it will appear on some lists but I'm happy to talk about that but does anybody want to go first on on their Masters power rankings as it sits here if you had to try to guess who's going to win three weeks out. You got five guys to cover the board. How we how we doing it. I'm going to go first. TC you go ahead. I mean Ludwig. I'm going Ludwig. I thought you might. You think he's more likely to win the Masters than Scotty. Yes. Okay. Okay. You want me to keep going. Yeah please. Yeah I want your whole list. I got Scotty next. Okay. I've got. Wait wait wait wait wait wait. Wouldn't Scotty or no are you going one to five or five to one. I'm going one to five. Okay. So I got Ludwig. Bryson. Scotty. Wait. Who's second Bryson or Scotty. Oh sorry sorry sorry Ludwig Scotty Bryson. I'm going to go with the great man team Rose. Jesus. I wondered if she might hit the board. And then I'm going. I'm going with Lynx Master Jordan speed. Over John Rom. No Rory either. No Rory. Interesting. Randy I'm very curious to your direction. All right. I guess one to five here. Come. I got Scotty. Come. This was tough. All right. I'm going to take some heat for this one. I'm just going to go Mickelson. It is a lefty. I'm putting the oxhate. Oh. Yeah. I'm putting the oxhate. Number two. I have disease X. Xander at three. I have Rory at four. Listen again. This is just trying to cover the board. I think Rory there are questions about the back. We just need to see it a little bit. But you know I think you're here. I put it wrong on five. I really struggle with this five. I didn't necessarily want to put wrong. It felt more like an obligation to put about Cam Young. Any any consideration. Yes. Heavy consideration that that four or five spot it felt like I needed to have Rory on there. And then I again it felt like an obligation to put wrong. I was thinking like I need to have like a live guy here. I didn't want to put Bryson. So I put wrong but Cam Young. Consideration TC honestly thought about Justin Rose for a little bit as well. This is your list again. What's your five again? Scotty, oxhate, Xander, Rory and rom. And I'll be honest. Fitsie now is like I think that's a name I need to remember here in a few weeks. Yeah. I'd be interested in that. I mean, Fitsie's thing, whole thing right now, especially he's driving accuracy and Augusta is just the place where that just doesn't seem to play as much. So his recent play doesn't, you know, he's taking advantage of a good spot on the calendar for golf course style. I think he ever played well there. I can look that up for you. Moderately. I guess I'd be shocked if he doesn't have at least one top 10 there, right? Or am I? Let's see. He has one top 10 to top 10s. Two top 10s 2023. He was T 10 and 2016. He was T seven. So not, not the best course fit for him. I, I think it's very reasonable to not have Scotty number one, but I still do. I'm kind of regret, I honestly kind of forgot about the back thing. I have Rory too. That one felt a little bit like an obligation. Like I definitely am not feeling Rory the same way I was last year heading into the Masters when I picked him to win. No big deal. The Rom, I'm not moving off that one. I'm not going to forget about Rom. I, I still think he has an excellent, excellent chance to win. I've got Ludwig at four. I think there's also an excellent chance that he could win the Masters. And I have Cam Young at five. I am not going to forget about what we saw there. I'm not going to forget about the leap that he has taken. He has a good track record at the Masters. And I think this is the first time we'll see him playing it with the, with the, with the, with the golf, the prototype golf ball that has taken his game to an entirely new level. And I'd be very surprised if he's outside the top five at the end of the week. So my list does not include Xander and my list does not include Bryson. We're the two hardest ones to, to leave off months, pretty chalky as it is. But I did go a little past Xander and Bryson to pick, to get Cam on there. I think if there's first guy out of mine, I think is, Chris Goddard. I think Goddard is, is a sneaky great fit for Augusta. So there's a lot of guys that I think can play very, like I'm expecting Bryson to be in the top 10 at the Masters, but I'm not expecting Bryson to win. I think we saw the approach play by the end of last year's Masters. Like for three, three rounds, like, dude, how's he doing this? Like he is not, like his approach play has been terrible. Like he's putting his ass off. He's driving it like very, very far, but like at some point you got to get close to the hole and can't rely on this. And that faded really, really hard on that Sunday to the point where I was like, man, unless he's sitting, obviously you can have a great week with the Irons and he can hit it a lot better than he did last year, but I can't get that image out of my head of like, I don't know if you can do that. Anything remotely like that for four days and win the Masters. Again, I think he'll be top 10, maybe even top five. But I just, I just am not, I don't, I don't see the play this back here in a couple weeks if he does go into win, but he would not be in my top five. I just think a little bit about, like there, I think there's some comps with how Pinehurst played for the US Open a couple of years ago. I mean, that Pinehurst ended up being like as bomber friendly as has Wingfoot did, very different way of getting there. But like Augusta does fate. You got to be long. You should be long at Augusta, but it's not. You can't bypass the approach part of the test with the quadrants they have in those greens. And then the, the, the precision that it requires to get in the right spots on those greens for most of the day. So there's some funnel pins, Randy, I know out there, but you just can't bomb it past a lot of trouble at Augusta. This is many people are saying the same thing about Steen City. And he conquered that place this week. Thank you. Can bomb it past a lot of stuff. It's so, like, can I, can I double click on, uh, how close was Xander to making your top five? I'm a little surprised he's not. And I, and with that, what, what, what would you want to see between now and, and Masters week? Xander was close, but again, like, I just, I'd be, I'd be surprised. If he won again, I would, I'd be surprised if he finished third. Absolutely not. I'd be very surprised if he wasn't top 10. I just, I'm looking for like a gear to get to, to, to win it. And you can debate the, the Ludwig thing is, you know, after what we just saw at the players, like what's the, what's the hurry to crown him? You know, a person capable of winning these things, but with the great track record and like potential lessons learned and better course fit at Augusta, than I would think for, for the player, um, you know, then TPC saw grass. Um, and I still just not quite, I mean, Xander's like returning to a level of play that looks a lot like it looks right before his two major win season in 2024, like 20, whatever, 18 through 2023. He looks about like this guy and we saw him contend a lot and not win a lot in a lot of major championships. And I feel like that's kind of closer to what he is right now than the 2024 version. How does that sound? I think that's fair. That's fair. Who the fuck knows though? Like he could go out and win it, of course, but I just, uh, I'm not like, I'm not going to rush to take Xander to win the message. Honestly guys, first draft I did of this, I had Brooks in there because. So that was my next question was like, what do you do with somebody like Brooks? I mean, Brooks is 35 to one right now. Okshay is 40 to one. Like Brooks is. Can we get right to that before we do that? T.C. I want to give a shout to, uh, of course the new spring 2026 line is live on HB golf.com. 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The U.S. Open collection is live online as well. So, I got the, the Oluven on right now in, uh, what color this is? Maybe Harbor. Um, just delightful piece I picked up this week. I love this lightweight, uh, pullover that we've got in our shop, uh, as well right now from them. But, uh, NLU 10 gets you 10% off at HBGolf.com. This is still the only discount code on the market. Go to HBGolf.com. Check them out. They got so much great stuff, uh, on there. But back to the question of, I think Brooks has played well enough the last couple of weeks that he's not going to sneak up on anyone. Or I guess we've seen this before where all you need to see is just a little, little semblance of good play and then realize maybe like Friday afternoon that Brooks Kepke is one of the greatest major, uh, championship players, uh, in the history of the game. Definitely in the modern history of the game. Are you buying a potential master's run for Brooks Kepke? Is he a serious contender to win the masters? And do you feel differently than you did at the beginning of the year? Is another question? I know I certainly do. I'll chime in. I definitely feel differently than I would have back in January. I, I really like what I've seen. Uh, his approach play has been phenomenal. The putting is not great this week. For instance, you know, if he could figure out the 16th hole on the weekend, he doubled that both Saturday and Sunday. I mean, he's, he's looking at another top 10 this week. I really like where he is in relation to the next three weeks in Augusta. Um, to me though, candidly, he's a guy that like, if we're talking full faith that he can have a top 10 at the masters, but I'm not sure if I would be willing to say like, I definitely believe he could win it this year. Um, when we were putting together the agenda, saw you were asking about like, do I see him making a major run? I think so. I wish I knew how difficult Augusta was kind of going to play this year. Um, I, I was thinking more like a U. S. Open or an open championship, a more like difficult test if he's, you know, if, if, if he can kind of shine through where par is a really good score, but I'm excited. I love having him back and, and like a part of these events. I didn't realize, I guess how much I missed him being in the fold. I just don't think his putting is good enough. That's what, that's what concerns me. It's, he seems good enough to be like, like Randy, I would feel better about him at Shinnecock. Yeah. Someone like that. I kind of do too. But yeah, like, I don't know. I think Brooks is like a really interesting, like would you rather have Brooks or Bob McIntyre or Brooks or God or or Brooks or I mean, shit, Jacob Bridgeman or Mav McNeely, like, I don't know. It's a total toss up. And I think I'd take those other guys personally at Augusta. Yeah. But again, this is where like, we had, we, this is the guy that elevates in these four events. And like on a week to week basis, I'm with you on, I would take all of those guys over Brooks. If they were all teamed up in Houston this week, I'd be like, especially God or up who's very much looking forward to getting to Houston as he said in chasing Sunday. I would, I would agree with that. But then I, again, I just have been that guy too many times. I'm like, what the fuck? How did we forget about Brooks again? And he's got a good history at Augusta when he's been healthy and when his game's been in decent form. You know, it's not like a tailor made course for my, I'm with you on like the US open classic Brooks setups would be, I'd be, I'd be more jazzed about it, but it's, it's interesting. And I just did not think we'd be here this soon after, you know, his game was in really, really poor form when he came over. And I'm not looking to pull on any like, oh, now he's practicing because he's back on the PGA tour moves. I don't think it, I think it's just simply like he's healthy. He's getting some confidence back. And I think he's maybe, maybe, maybe potentially a little bit more driven than, than we've seen in recent years. Yeah, I think all that's fair. It's truly like a, who can say, I just, I think I would be more surprised if he won the masters than I would be if he won, even like the open championship. Like I think Berkdale fits him to a T. So. A little shocking, I guess I just, I mean, I knew he hadn't played necessarily well in majors for a little while, but hasn't top 10 since he won the PGA back in 2023. So I think that's a little bit of it. Solly for me is like, I just don't know if he can win necessarily like this first major when he's, when he's kind of, you know, if we're going to say he's back a little bit. I expect him to have a good week. And I think that could set him up for the remaining majors this year. I think my point overall is in that time period also, like his game worldwide dipped greatly, you know, and that correlates very strong. Like when he was winning majors and being very good in majors, it wasn't like he was a bad PGA tour player. He just was not like one of the elite top five guys out on tour on a week to week basis. And then he also started, then he began playing bad golf, like straight up bad golf across where he was a below average tour pro for a while there. 2425. And, you know, maybe below average tour pros probably stretching it a little bit. But that's I'm just saying like, just a little, little tip of the scales, a little bit like, little bit of forward momentum, it's not hard to imagine that when the golf gets hard and gets real, like the real real golf, he has been the dude that rises and I'm excited to find out now, man. Like I, you know, we'll see if I don't, if I would see him, I just wouldn't be passing out nearly as much advice at the masters this year. You know, you might, you might need those, those strokes at the very end. So I, none of us mentioned P. Yeah. I mean, P was third last year. That's why I got like, it's truly out of sight out of mind for me. And I know that's like a me thing. I just, I can't watch all the golf. So I just have no idea. I'm disappointed. I think running rough shot over the DP world tour and going to win the masters still are very different categories. So I'm, I don't, I, again, I don't think P is a serious, serious contender. P 2018 won it 2019 T 36 2020 T 10 2021 T eight 2022 T 35 2023 T four T 12 and in 2024. So I don't know. I think P I'm a little bit worried. He's not playing a whole lot right now. He didn't play in China last week. He's not going to India this week. You know, see do he T 10 and Joburg. I don't know. He's probably down in the lab. He's probably hanging out down at Carl's. And Woods. Open, open tea times this spring courses open. It probably does just bear mentioning a Brooks win at Augusta would be an awesome just thing for golf and that, you know, that would be his sixth major that would put him back ahead of Rory kind of set them up for a little back and forth here like there are some like really fun story lines. And you'd be going for the career grants. One more guy that's one major away from the Grand Slam. So then it would be so nobody's pending the Masters. Obviously, George is still pending the PGA filled with the US Open, of course. And now Scotty with the US Open and then that'd be that'd be Brooks with the open. Almost the full year. This is a big year for Scotty a Shinnecock win would be not only for the Grand Slam but just like go go win on a proper course that would be big for Scotty. Another thing with the Kepka thing it this year feels a little bit open like last year did as well with Scotty like there's 2024 did not feel open at all. Last year did feel open because the ravioli incident and Rory took advantage of it and like, I'm curious if somebody can step up and do it because there's no, no guarantee that in 27 or 28 that he's going to be in this kind of form leading into the Masters. If we believe this dip to be to be temporary, I believe, believe his wife was due today as we speak. I don't know. There's obviously not been any updates as we're recording this as to when their second child speak expected but that does hope if that if that what I've been told is true on the due date does eliminate the pager at Augusta possible situation of it sounds like the kid will be here before before the Masters. Don't have that completely verified but that is what I guess we probably shouldn't bank on him being in Houston though. Sounds like he's in the field this week, but you're right that would be surprising to me either way, unless the maybe they get this weekend. I haven't told anyone yet also so. So, a couple other news and notes around the PGA tour Josh Carpenter had this stats players average 4.4 million viewers on Sunday peaked at 7.1 million that is up from 3.6 million last year that does not include big data last year I don't really exactly know how that works but it seems like there was a viewership spike and I did not conclude last year on the Sunday as well. There was a playoff of course Monday Thursday coverage was up from 644 to 874 Friday coverage up over 1.1 almost 1.2 million average viewers on Friday afternoon which is up from 747,000 in 2025 so good vibes coming out of out upon a Vdra I think helped a little bit last week honestly of just good general buzz heading into the players and good setup good tournament and then the ratings rewarded it so. Even though the even though the the agronomy team over there says they didn't do anything different just because of the dry weather. The this past Tuesday as well the tour released chasing Sunday the the video project they were doing with NFL films extremely fast turnaround from conclusion of play on Sunday to a Tuesday night release. Did you guys get a chance to watch it and what was your reaction. I did I thought it was fantastic. And I think it just I've said this multiple times now but I like it made me just disappointed that how big of a with full swing has been when they've had so much so much to work with so much time to edit it and that's the product we've gotten whereas this is all we were asking for right I think they're two different things but I don't think full swing accomplished what it needed to accomplish and I think this is much more valuable stuff. I think they thought full swing was going to save golf. And I think it is full swing is meant to win like the algorithm and win on people scrolling the Netflix homepage more than it is to cater to golf fans and that this was a simple thing like this is for golf fans but I mean it was shared widely across the sports world and it hasn't done like crazy views. I think that being a barometer of success for something like this is the wrong way to look at it. It is and you you increase the profiles of four guys on the PGA tour that should have their profiles increased like how great was Seawoo Kim in this thing. I mean the whole you know Joe Griner was incredible in this thing. Joe were awesome was such a good team and just like I would run through a wall for Joe Griner very clearly just listen to his pop up speeches and things like that. I mean God rep was not was like it was an interesting look at a week of a guy that's like just tired doesn't have it was low energy was not feeling it and like yeah you can be on top of the golf world a month earlier and then you get there and just like have a week where you're off and even if it was you know one of the best term it's of the year you're just not in a great headspace and like that was documented like that's real that was great. I think I think up to there was there was interesting stuff with God or up and I think some of that got yanked and sanitized out by the request of his agents which is a shame because like the whole reason to do this is to show the real stuff and and you know I think Ricky doing it seems like it's it's probably more of a signal to the other players of like hey like say yes to this stuff do it like I don't think Ricky's the most interesting guy at this point in his career but I think it was a good like go face moment for him and yeah so I don't know I'd love to see more of these I thought it was kind of a shot across the bow at both golf channel at PGA tour studios even of like you know hey we we had to bring in a non golf entity because they had the credibility and the chops to do this. And yeah I hope they do you know I would I would watch five or six of these a year. It was awesome. Randy what do you think. Yeah, I largely agree with everything you guys have said I think this captured and held my attention far far far far more than the full swing stuff so like right off the bat I I found this to be much more interesting. And I think it's like almost the worst version of this they could have not version but like none of the guys were really in contention you know like they they they almost had the worst luck with who they picked this year. And so I think that's a good sign like I think it can only get better as you nab a couple guys that might be top 10 or more in contention. I totally agree with you like I still even though hard knocks has been around forever. It's still a fabulous like I still really enjoy watching it and I just think it's it's kind of a gold standard and for them to bring this immediately into golf and to show what they're capable of I do I think it's great I think, like you said, a little bit of a of a shot across the bow and kind of makes me wonder like what the hell have we been doing all these last several years guys. So, yeah, I'm, I thought it was all good. I went searching for the first mention in my in my notes and documents of everything of like when it was the first time I said like doing NFL sounds of the game and release it on Tuesday 2021 was the first year that I found in my notes of like bringing this to the forefront of like like a radically. No, I will bless you. I think we mentioned this guy four or five years prior even to that. I'm sure it's sound effects and like like this is all we've been asking for you don't have to doll it up you don't have to over produce it nobody's trying to cancel anyone. Like we just want to see substantive conversations and like really gulfy stuff. Yeah, and it is a big project like don't like it's a huge team if you look at the credits afterwards of like and be able to turn that around on Tuesday. I don't want to act like you could do this every single weekend. It's simple. It's not, but you could change the scale and scope of it. Like, you know, if you wanted to do a Saturday version and get somebody in the last two groups at waste management and like get, you know, you know, get the capture that atmosphere. But you mentioned Hard Knocks Randy. Hard Knocks does an amazing job of making you invested in characters that you didn't previously care about. Like the fight for the 53rd spot on the roster. Like you would just all I would lay down my life for that guy. I hope he makes the team like three weeks later you kind of forget about the guy, but during the series you're invested for a sport that needs to sell their characters. Like this is a no brainer. Like it continuing to invest in stuff like that is going to pay dividends. And we're and we'll get to some of this on the LPG side too. Like there's just very clear efforts being made to to give you reasons to root for these players. Like I followed Seawoo Kim for almost a decade and I'm like, why don't I root harder for Seawoo Kim? Like that is just such a delightful dude. I think a full swing succeeded at anything. I think it did crossover a little bit and make you root for certain guys if you were a total casual like a Joel Damon. Yeah, there's some good stuff in there. Yeah. But I don't know. It just it just leaves me wanting of like, I don't think it had to be an either or right. Right. Like I don't think it has to be just for the casual non-golf fan or just for the core fans. Like I feel like they've spent the better part of three or four years filming for full swing. And I can't imagine all the good stuff that's just sitting there collecting dust on the cutting room floor. And I know that they filmed it for us for that specific reason. But again, it just feels like man, like, I don't know, I'm just thankful to the tour for finally doing something for core fans. Instead of just dangling shiny objects over to people who don't give a shit about golf, which I get it. We got to we got to get them in the boat, but you got to keep some people in the boat too. Yeah. I mean, just thinking like the convo with Joe and Oxhale and 17 T of just pitching wedge versus nine iron. And just here in the back and forth of what that looks like. Imagine that in the final group, if they get one of these in the final group of the players and like if they had JJ spawn, his conversation on the Monday playoff last year of the you know, we had that like that just as a clip that's going to live forever, man, of of your one of your core championships. So good on them for that one. You want to run down any other notes here? T.C. I know Roy released his champion's dinner menu. I know that's got to be had to get. Yeah, I'm sure you put that in the magnifying glass this week. A lot of people tagging me in on this. Listen, the wine list is awesome. And, you know, props to Rory. He can put what he wants on his menu. I was a little bit disappointed. I'll say that. I thought the what had you disappointed? Just not adventurous enough. Yeah, I don't know. Like the mains, I think had me disappointed. Like, I don't know. I like the local flavor with the peach and ricotta flatbread. Rock shrimp shrimp tempura fine. Bacon wrapped dates. That was a shout to his mom. I like that grilled elk sliders. I wonder if you serve them Scotty style. You know, that's fine. He said he was eating a lot of elk last year. Yellowfin tuna carpaccio. It's a delightful dish. Right. That's a, that's a, you know, Daniel balloon or ever up in, up in New York. Then like the, the filet, that's just where it kind of threw me a little bit of like, I think we can do better. I think we can get a better, a better, more, more flavorful cut in there. And seared salmon. Like it just, I don't know. I guess it's just a very Irish. I think it's a great dish there. I'm sure the Vidalia on your rings will be great. The Irish champ and all of that. Then sticky toffee pudding. Always good. Can't go wrong. I know Rory loves Chateau de Cam. Both, you know, he had a great, great white Burgundy in there. And then a, and then a 1990 first growth or dough. Feet Ross child. So all good. It just feels very, very safe. Randy is all. Okay. So, but it's, again, it makes him happy. That's, yeah, that's all that matters. I would happily eat this meal for the record. I looked at the menu and I was like, that sounds good. I would really enjoy that meal. Totally. It's solid. Not, not much lettuce on there. I know that that's good. But like the people, I just thought that some of the people who are like, this is the best one ever. I'm like, no, this isn't even fucking close. Like are you saying people performative online TC? No way. Deckey, Ram. I mean, there, a moment like there's, there's been some really good ones. сор сор сор сор сор сор сор сор сор And it's a double header on Tuesday. Well, if they, if it goes to a game three, if game three is a double header on Tuesday, but to pull off the upset of Boston, common on Tuesday, Rory Stunk, he was really bad. I did not want to play that the triple header, whatever. And he might have been taking a little bit of a dive. We do lose oxhade to the, to the hero and you'd open and kids, that means kids will be back for the, for the championship. So I don't feel great about our chances, but Hey, chipping a chair, man, we just cannot, cannot kill these guys. It's, it was entertaining again, man. It really was once they got hot and the hammer strategy with like your season on the line at the very end, Randy, I know it's not for you. I'm doing what I said I would never do, which is try to convince anyone that it's worth watching, but you know, there's been a couple of weird like payoff moments late in the season. So I don't, I'm happy for you. So thank you. I'm happy for you. It's been Randy. I mean, they're, they're clearly like putting their thumb on the scale as far, all right. Sorry, did you see the ball hop out of the bunker too? Listen, that's my biggest beef with the whole thing is how bad the techno, like how bad the gameplay is. I will continue to say that. It just looks like, and I swear I've played Nintendo 64 games that have like better looking screen and gameplay and like just like the ball is like dimple this and there's, there's, there's grandstands without people in it. Like it looks terrible and they did not improve that part of it. And I think they got to get that right. They got to fix the delay from the ball hitting the screen and get going. And it's not, it's not perfect, Randy. I'd never said it was. Okay. So don't, don't, don't you put those words in my mind. LAGC is currently minus 140 a win. Two planks plus plus 120 again. LAGC. TGL stuff. Just call the hotline. Just do it. Is, is Tommy, is Tommy going to play? Tommy's in the lineup. Yes. So Tommy saw hits and I'm assuming team Rose. I believe that to be the case. It's Collins banged up. It's locked up. He's locked up. Yes, it is official lineup. I have it here. Rose, Tommy and saw it. That's right. It's max Tom Kim and Kisner. So there was an article that was going around a little bit on the webs this week. A money in sport article diving into a little bit diving into the PGA tour kind of financial situation. I'll just read the beginning of the article. It says after 30 committee meetings, the PGA tours future competition committee still hasn't resolved with the 2027 schedule will look like this analysis reveals why the economics don't support the tours ambitions. And this article says by analyzing nonprofit disclosures, media markets, revenue trends and sponsor longevity for the 20 tournaments that publish financials. We identify which events can thrive in a restructured tour and which cannot. The finding fewer than seven tournaments currently meet the criteria for sustainable signature events. This was getting circulated in the in the the bot part of the world as well. As on as on the EOT, not the journal EOE. As well as the journalistic side. I reached out to a lot of different people on this Sunday of like just for a reaction on this and a lot of different walks of, you know, people that work on the buy side, you know, and that are involved in PGA tour events, people that work for with the tour, people that used to work with the tour, like, Hey, just heat check this one. What's going on here? And the answer was pretty unanimous of like, Yeah, this is horribly incomplete. This is not very good analysis at all. It's a wild conclusion to reach without looking at the top level finances of the PGA tour at all as well, just kind of looking at individual nine nineties of individual events, which there's weird accounting in professional golf and how media rights deals work and all that stuff is like, you couldn't project what the model looks like just by looking at individual tournament nine nineties. It might be an unsustainable model to my knowledge. I do. I could not. I would be very surprised if some very serious people got involved in the tour and built an unsustainable model. But if that is the whatever the case is, the conclusions reached in this, in this article were bad. It was, it was tough. And we've cited money and sport in the past and I kind of maybe regret doing that because I was kind of trusting them a bit more than, than I do now after having read that read that one. Yeah, it's not very well sourced. I'll say that. Yeah. Uh, I mean, what did Denny Cash have to say? Well, I'm, I'm bringing this up because it is an idea for a future Denny Cash episode. If there, if please reach out to me, you can always reach out solid knowling up.com. If you're ever curious for the next kind of finances tackle that will be able to do in that world because those episodes have been well received. Telling Denny to reach out to you or potentially. Yeah, I haven't heard from Denny since the latest episode went out, but you know, Denny's of course worked in this part of the world. He could tell us exactly how this stuff works. It is complicated. It's very complicated, but at the same time that the tour has an overwrite like overarching massive media deal that helps fund a lot of purses. Uh, and it's not like, um, it made it sound like the tour is reaching into their coffers to top up all these tournaments. And that's just, it's not that it's, it's a lot more complicated than it's not that, not that simple. So anyways, anything else from the tour side, TC? Uh, Jerry Tardy had an outrageous, outrageous column over at golf digest. Um, there's just the, there's some doozies in there. Uh, his mission, you know, quote, his message was consistent and strong. And I'm rooting for him, but I wish he played golf. My first impression is that he was talking about Brian roll out, uh, Armani it up a little bit, although I think he likes playing the role of scrappy every man who will outwork you to the end zone. That was his reputation at the NFL where he was known for his intelligence, strategic vision and relentless pursuit of ever higher media rights. He's analytical, patient and unemotional at, and it's like, all right, like all that's true, but I wish the guy dressed better because it's like, it's one of the most outrageous, just go read it. It's, it's funny. Um, so we can link it in the show notes here as well. Uh, otherwise I saw Windham, uh, hearted ways with his longtime caddy, John Ellis. Um, you know, so we'll see kind of which direction he goes from here. Uh, and then yeah, just looking ahead to Houston, Scotty, like you said, he ended up this week, Mason Howell is in the field. I'm a sponsor exemption as well. So, uh, curious to see him, him, uh, you know, playing, playing at Memorial Park, which as you all know, slaps the first of two times, we'll get the Memorial Park. Yeah. Now women going to see though. Well, I'm struggling to marry last year's result, which was just bomb it anywhere. Chris Goderup saying in chasing a naked hit anywhere, uh, at Houston with its slapping TC, I think it did before the Oversead though. Maybe they've adjusted their overseas program this year. Maybe maybe the greens will be more, more spiced up. We'll get back to that. Oversead there here in a second. We talk about PGA. We can now is the time though to visit Pinehurst resort at the cradle of American golf. Pinehurst is more than fame. Number two, an anchor site for the US open. It is Tom Doaks masterful number 10 for historic hotels and newly built luxury cottages at Pinehurst. Number eight, the one of a kind title of shop at Pinehurst and the new Peter Malar shop, a trio of dynamic dining experiences in station 21 plate and the upcoming wire grass. Pinehurst blends timeless charm with the very best in the game today. Visit pinehurst.com to plan your stay. TC, we were at Pinehurst a week, a year ago this week, all that was popping up on my phone and I was, I was just a little gutted man. I miss Pinehurst in spring. It was always such a great trip that we've done there. Pinehurst.com to plan your stay. I think 10. Call that dope course. Pinehurst X. X. The disease. Uh, I think the, uh, that one's only going to keep getting better as it keeps growing in and then I'm stuck. I'm we're, we're going to later this year to see number 11 as well. Uh, the new core Crenshaw joint, which looks intimate and spectacular thus far. So, Randy, you want to take us on a little play by play, uh, from the founders this past weekend? Yeah, sure. Uh, founders, listen, important event on the LPGA tour. It honors the original 13 founding members. Um, we've talked about it in, in years past, but I really dig the idea behind this tournament. I think it should be one of the bigger week to week events on this tour. And they finally got back to a course that I think was, uh, worthy of hosting this event. If you'll remember a few years back, they were up in the Northeast, um, Montclair country club and then they lost that and they were out in Arizona last year and that stunk. Uh, but I was, what mountain ridge too, I think, and they were mountain ridge before Montclair. Yeah. Um, so I want to talk about Sharon Heights, but let's do a little play by play. Yoju Kim won the tournament and it ended up being a dual her and Nelly Corta. Um, Yoju entered the day five shots up on Nelly. They were playing together in the final group. Um, Nelly went on a run in the, in the first nine, both she and Yoju bogied the second, but then Nelly ripped off birdies on three, five, six, seven and nine and then got one on 10. And at that point we had a tie ball game because Yoju was just kind of spinning her wheels. She made a couple birdies on the front nine, but then bogied eight. And so, um, guys, we get to 13 and this is kind of where I want to really pick up the play by play. If anybody wasn't watching wild, wild turn of events, 13 is a part three, uh, kind of almost a bowl, like definitely a feeder pin off of a back, uh, back bowl just beyond the pin. And it was playing, I think like 187 they were saying on TV. And so it was, you know, the women were hitting mid irons to hybrids. I think Yoju hit, uh, I don't know if it was a wood or a hybrid, but she kind of tugged it and it ended up going long and it ran up the bank and then all the way to the 14th tee box. So she didn't get any of the slope advantage kind of funneling it back to the pin. It left her in a very, very tricky spot where, uh, she took a lob wedge and was having to contend with that same downhill that she failed to use off the tee. She hits this little flopper wedge on the green. This thing has speed. Like I think guys, it's going off the green, right? Like it's, it's bogey at best, but it hits the middle of the flag stick ricochets to about four or five feet and she's able to make that par putt. And in hindsight, I think this is where she wins the tournament because she would go on, uh, on 14. Nelly hits it inside of her. It's a par four. Hyoju has, what are we going to call it? Soly 25 feet for birdie, uh, with some break and she cans it and Nelly misses her putt. And so between the, the huge break off the flag stick on 13 and then making the birdie on 14, she would never relinquish this lead. Nelly tried to run her down. Um, she did run her down. Yeah. And she had run her down, but after that she didn't, right? Or am I missing? Oh, I mean, yeah. She, I feel like she did. She just forgot to make the two footer. Well, then we get to 17 where Nelly, uh, is trailing by just a single shot again. And again, Hyoju was in a tough spot, but gets really down. Longer the green over a hill, tons of rough behind the ball pitches up tight. Like it was an awesome show. Uh, Nelly ends up missing like an foot and a half, maybe two foot putt. Uh, it was three to four, probably. I mean, she was out. She was out away from, from age two. I think it was probably three. It was funny. Yeah. Okay. Oh, I want to get it. It wouldn't give me put a coin on it. Yeah. Yeah. No, but it was certainly a putt that she needs to make. Um, and so she drops a shot there. She falls two shots behind with that bogey. The 18th is a par five. Uh, Kim hits it into the bunker, which kind of takes, you know, is a big door opening. Up against the, where she's kind of got to splash out. Did he a shook took what three shots to get out of that bunker earlier? So you're thinking like Nelly, like you have the firepower to get home and to like maybe make Eagle, like this is okay. We, we, we got a chance now. And then Nelly follows her up with a fairway wood right into that same bunker. And I was like, Jesus Christ, what are we, what are we doing here? It was dry. It wasn't driver. No, I think it was not as three wood or three wood for Nelly. Yeah. Um, yeah, it felt like driver probably easily gets past that I would think it probably like lands where the bump, you know, it's like, I'm sure I don't know what she was thinking, honestly. Um, it's landing like where the bunker is, but yeah, it would have rolled out a ton. Nelly gets out. She's further back away from the lip. So she hits out, hits her third, uh, just behind the green. And she's like barely, barely on the fringe. She ends up chipping, has to make it, does not make it. So H.J. She's splashed out. She's what on the grid, she ends up having the two putt from about five and a half feet. Uh, she, she does miss the first one just to keep things a little interesting, but taps in for a bogey, uh, wins by a stroke. She finishes 16 under Nelly 15 under, but guys, we got a fun dual. I think that's the big takeaway. The golf course, I think there are three big takeaways for me. One, we got a fun dual between two, like world class players. Obviously Nelly being involved is, is always great for everybody. Um, I thought the golf course was, was a really good surprise. And I want to ask you guys about the golf course and your reactions. And then it was a real first look at this enhanced LPGA tour broadcast. And I think, I, I think it's indisputable that it's a better production than what we've seen the last, I mean, several years in these week to week events, right? Uh, better cameras, more cameras, drones that really showed the scale, the slopes of Sharon Heights golf club, uh, a lot more track man. You know, they have a partnership with track man. So a lot more tracers, some ball data, ball speed, apex heights. Uh, they were flashing some heat maps of the green. You know, they're sick late in the day kind of showing the slopes there. We didn't even get that on PGA tour broadcasts. Yeah. So, so yeah, so I'll throw it back to you. Do we want to start with Sharon Heights the broadcast? I think it all works together. It was a good afternoon on the LPGA. It all works together. It was in prime time. It was, um, drew in our slack set of grades. It makes me want to play golf. Like I did. I was like, oh, it, it, it brought everything alive. So what I, what I don't like about watching LPGA tour sometimes is it can be, it can feel like a putting contest where you're just watching putts on repeat and you're just watching shots in the fairway from the, from behind the green, you know, and it's just like, there's no, there's no context for any of the shots. There's no story building of how the holes are playing and combining the drones with some handheld cameras and, uh, some firmness in the golf course. I get that it was a fun golf course combined with new angles and watching it. We're like watching a duel on it was great of every shot. There was a, you know, a, um, an advantage to playing in certain parts of the fairway. It wasn't a brilliant golf course, but there was just some wrinkles in it that made it all interesting and sprinkling in a little bit of drone footage just to show how dramatic the landscape is and what you're playing over and how, like just the intention to detail and all those bunkers, how firm it played. It just, um, it looked like somebody gave a shit man. And I do not walk away from watching LPGA tour saying that, right. And it's like, you were capable of this. And I know FM has really stepped up to, to improve the coverage. And we had a great interview with Craig Kessler, the LPGA tour commissioner this past week, and I, they were saying a lot of great things. I was nervous about, you know, about how good it would look this early on. And it's not groundbreaking. It's not like this jumps the LPGA tour straight to the top of must see TV, but it, it levels the playing field better. It just, you're not watching a serious dip in quality now of, of an actual telecast gets me, uh, it's way easier to get invested in the storyline unfolding. Just little things like they got little like player intros that pop up now. And it was three fun facts about Nelly that I'd never heard before. It's just like her coffee order, her superstition. Um, and I forget what the other one was, but it was just like, oh, favorite lobby, which is needle pointing needle point. Yeah. There we go. And like, I'm like, Oh, okay. That's, that's a little extra layer on things. They, I'm randomly, but they did a great interview and a great dive in on with Natasha Andrea, uh, on Friday and documenting like her, her journey to get to the LPGA tour. Like they paused the golf for a little too long and just interviewed her for like 10 straight minutes. Like they could have done a little bit of both. I'm gonna be a picky, but it was, it was just, they got player, caddy combos. They got like the boom. My guys are getting aggressive out there. Uh, and I do get in trouble. Like go mess things up, do some things differently. I feel like they are, um, they're, they're on a, I'm, I'm, I feel like they're really backing up all the things they said of this thing's going to be dramatically improved and I'm excited about it. T.C. Yeah. Yeah. I thought. Sorry, I took up like eight things there to see. Oh, that's all right. I was jazzed. Oh, it's, it's, I mean, shit. When have we ever had this before LPGA broadcast? I think, um, the drone stuff brought that course to life with all the, you know, nine, the ninth holes, gray, there's like, I don't know. I thought the setup was good. Like they made them hit really like real shots down the stretch, which isn't always the case in an LPGA event. The greens were firm. The place firmed up like crazy. T shots were all on it. Cause there was no, yeah, there was no intermediate cut. It just went straight from like, of, you know, 10% grade fairway to, so like start lines were super important off the tee and shaping, you know, shaping the ball into slopes was, was important. Ball was, you know, like I felt like we were watching the ball run out a lot. Like the ball was on the ground, whether it was, you know, and, and like great penultimate hole, 17th hole there. Um, going back, like even like huge, uh, had a really good up and down or like really good par putt, I think on 16 to kind of like walked it in and like, it was, it was a producer's dream in that it was a duel. There was two players that were involved from like, say young Kim made a little bit of noise, but like, otherwise it was, it was a, it was a two horse race for the better part of the day from, you know, for 12, 12, like their whole broadcast window. Yeah. It was like, they got preempted a little bit by the olds, uh, the Colo guard. Uh, they went to a playoff and then they, they gave us a little tease and then they went back to the playoff. But you know, when, uh, all cur one, but I thought, um, yeah, I mean, all this stuff you said, Sally, and yeah, it's just like a dream of like Nellie charging in a damn near birdies, six or seven holes in a row. Like even on what was that eight, eight or nine, like she didn't like. Jim birdie it, but she had a good look. And then, yeah. And then like, it wasn't great golf down the stretch, but it was really entertaining, interesting golf and it was topsy turvy. Um, but man, I just wish. Like, I feel like we're getting more emphasis and more oomph on the production value, but it still feels like the same. Alan, if you close your eyes commentary, same exact broadcast, uh, as years prior, so I was going to say a couple of nits to pick, I guess. Oh, let me, let me start here. Solly, I think you made a great point about, uh, like this event last year was at a nondescript desert course and you would have tuned in and you would have seen just, okay, hit fairway, hit green, balls not really moving. Like, and this is a credit to the golf course. T.C. like you said, the ball spent, the ball was moving on the ground much more so than your, than your typical LPGA kind of week to week, uh, venue, I think produces. And so you just inherently have interest there. The slopes, uh, working balls back to the pins. Uh, if you, if you miss the slope, you know, you're, you're kind of working away. Fantastic. Uh, I'm with you. Oh, Randy, like just, just on that note too, like the club clearly supported the tournament, like club in the surrounding area, good crowds. Um, recent renovation of the club. Like, I think they spent $23 million. It shows like it's a cool spot, cool trees, cool. Like that's what, like when I tune into prime, like you're in NorCal, like, that's what I want to see. Like there was a sense of place and it kind of transported me there versus, and like, that's the thing. Like give me, give me prime time, you know, LPGA golf, you know, there in from six to 9 PM or 7 to 10 PM. If we get later in the year, like give me that more often on, on interesting golf courses that, that, that the men can't go to like sign me up. That's the, that's the recipe at least four weeks a year. I think to Randy's point, like all this beefed up coverage wouldn't have hit the same if they were at a dog shit course in Arizona again. I think this enhanced production deserves an infusion of energy. Into the, the broadcast into the people on the broadcast. And I, and I thought, uh, there, there was kind of a starkness to, wow, I'm seeing this, this whole new broadcast, but if I close my eyes, it sounds like every old, you know, I like guys, Morgan, Prestle is not it for me. And I don't necessarily want to like pick on her, but I just don't think she does a great job. I think she's pretty flat and monotone. I don't think she like builds energy for the viewer. I, I, I, and I don't even think she like gives that great of insights. Most of the time, I, I think it's pretty just stock, like, Oh yeah. No, like you said, kind of what we were all thinking. I would switch that chair up if I were in charge of, of the broadcast. I just wish we could marry this production with like a, a refreshed team of talent and, and, and, and bring those things together. And then let's really kind of set sail on a new chapter in televising women's golf. And I'm sure there are contracts and so I, this, I would love to touch on the interview that you did with Craig Kessler. Cause I think some of this stuff ties in there. Um, just any kind of thoughts after the episode ran and anything that's been in your head. Uh, but that's one thing that sticks out. And then two, because it was a duel and the good news is we're going to be back at this course for the founders, at least for the next two years. Uh, I would like to see just a little bit more like flyovers. Talk to me about what these holes are. You know, where are the best places to like fit your drive? Where the good deal is from live, have a, have a player. The live has done this where they have a player voice over the whole and talk about the strategy that goes into it. Like do that. None need to be original here. Do that idea. Like that's a great, you want to get your player personalities out there and a, a little bit of course documentation there. Like hell yeah. Yeah. I feel like the, the commentary feels like a bad impression of a pro golf broadcast. It feels like the bare minimum to me. And I feel like, yeah. Like Morgan, like there were like a dozen times today where like what she said was just like flat out wrong. Like the ball ended up in a different place than, like, I don't know. That's not showing up on her monitor or whatever, but it's just, and then I think like the, with Grant and Morgan and Karen in the booth, it just feels like one plus one plus one equals like one and a half. I feel like Karen, it's not the best version of Karen because she doesn't really know what her role is there. You know, like there's, there's just too many, too much going on. So yeah, all that to say, like I would Mel read or yeah, just, we need some, just a rethink on the commentary. So yeah, so I would, you could, can we, well, I'd like to, I was just going to throw out like it's clear from talking to Craig, both, you know, on the air and off the air and like talking to the Chad, like they've put a lot of ideas into play very quickly. They've made a lot, they've taken a lot of action very quickly. And I'm like, they're listening, like they're listening to feedback. So like you mentioned the commentary changed there, but like what else would you put on your list of like, if they're listening to, to, you know, what people are saying of what they want out of LPGA tour golf, what, what, what's next up on your list? Like what do you, what do you go into next to say, like, let's tackle this? I'm really curious how they're able to handle showing more players across a golf course. I think that's one thing that I did not necessarily get answered. And they did not need to. Again, this was a dual all day today. But I think, I think in the past where we've seen LPGA broadcast struggle is like they have a very small amount of cameras out there. And so I think there will be a time hopefully sooner than later where it's like, Hey, this is a wide open tournament. We got players making charges. Like let's show a lot of golf shots from across the golf course. And not just your like, this is the tower shot of a, of a ball landing or we cut to somebody making the birdie putt. Right. Like I want to see, I want to see more building the drama, showing us what's going on in the tournament. That would be one thing. I am really curious. I don't have a great answer except for like maybe the NFL films people can come out once or twice a year. But like, I know Craig, as he mentioned in your, in your podcast with him, Sully, which everybody should listen to. If you missed the podcast that you and Cody did with Craig, I thought he was great. Um, and, but I know one of his pillars is we have to tell the stories of these athletes. We have to get people invested in who they are seeing on the television screen. And so, um, just flashing the little like facts about people today, like, yeah, that's, that's a nice thing. But I'm just curious what maybe they have in mind to those ends. Is it. And I'll say like a big part of it is like, just get the boom mics, get the player, catty combos, like pick up audio on the golf course. Uh, I think goes a long way. So we'll be curious what that entails. Um, and then I just think the big thing for me that is going to play a big role in, in all of this is, I hope it's next year. Like they're going to have to really, really, really remake the schedule and rethink the schedule. And I think that's the elephant in the room right now is like, what is that going to look like? And right now they're playing tournaments January to Thanksgiving in November. And it's like, that's too long of a season. I'm really, I can't wait to see what this reimagined schedule and season looks like, I guess would be my overarching thing. Yeah. I think my, my stuff is, yeah, mainly around set up, which we saw a better setup this week and some of that's because they're on a good golf course, but also they did allow it to dry out and they did put pins in like, like on Thursday, I remember firing it up and seeing the pin on, it was a ninth hole, like tucked right behind this bunker. I was like, whoa, that's different. Yeah. Like, you know, they kind of, you got to hit a shot to get it back there. And I feel like it's, it definitely allowed for more separation this week, like on the leaderboard. Um, and you know, what's seven, you know, 15, 16, 17 or par, like it was out there. Like there were plenty of birdies out there, but there were consequences and bogies to be had as well, which is, you know, it just felt consequential. I think on the, the schedule front, Randy, that's where I go to immediately. And I know this is easier said than done, but you know, I think the West Coast thing this time of year is, is a no brainer. Like I keep coming back to like Chambers Bay and like watching, you know, like granted that would have to be later in the year, but like watching the US AM at Chambers Bay a couple of years ago, or the US women's AM at Chambers Bay. It was awesome. Right. Like give, give me that. Or I don't know, I watched like the Western intercollegiate, the Western intercollegiate, apostle Tiempo, give me like a LPGA match play made for TV, apostle Tiempo, you know, golf sickos would, I mean, that'd be awesome. Yeah. And like, I feel like you're, you know, you're kind of leaning in on like, all right, it's, it's, it's like, it's kind of appointment viewing, right? You, you know, you're kind of proven to people. I think there's a lot of, like, and I know it's like it's, it's easier said than done up East with a lot of country clubs. It's a, it's a shorter season and like they don't want to host pro golf men or women. Right. It's just, they don't want to give up their courses. So I think some of these, having some like founders that bounce around a little bit is awesome. I think they should go to the park in, in West Palm. I think that place would be killer for it. Like you do, like you start the season there, you have a big Florida event. There are a lot of ladies live in that area anyway. Weather's good this time of year. We play fast and firm and like that place was made for, for this style of golf. Um, yeah. And I don't know. I mean, I think the, the pie in the sky would be, I think that they should throw up a hail Mary and say, all right, once out of the next five to 10 years, PGA tour, let us, let us come host a ladies event at TPC Sawgrass. Yeah. And I know that that gets complicated with Optum and Comcast business and Morgan Stanley or the proud partners and figure it out. Guys, do piggyback the weeks or something if you had it, but I'll just make the point. Sawgrass and Augusta are the only two courses in golf that we get to see the men that we don't see the women at. And I, yeah, those are two courses. I would love to see the women. I think, solidly, I missed one thing and this has been like, they have to, they have to have better one. We got to do a better website. And we got to do a better app. Like I cannot tell you how frustrated I am opening the LPJ app. And it asked me to either sign in and continue as a guest every single time. Like Craig, Chad, if you're listening, that is fucking ridiculous. Like fix that tomorrow. Just take me to the main page. I know we're on the right path with Trackman and being able to collect better information, but we just got to be able to tell, uh, we got to have the stats available, the data available to tell better stories of what's actually happening, because I think that's you, you can only get so far, uh, talking about the human interest stuff at some point, you got to marry it with like, okay, what's their skill or what's their weakness? What do we have to get better at? Like we have to very, uh, objectively know what we're watching. Uh, any perfect example today? Yeah. Nellie had, Nellie had, she made one, two, three, four, five. She made six birdies and had 32 putts. I would love to be able to dig a little bit deeper into that. Yeah. Right. Right. And I get that they're doing the KPMG, but it's still just like Caddy's eye and stuff. Like they have to have shot link data. Don't get much something. Gun the putts. You know, it's one thing for all the balls and play. I use the shot link or, you know, the caddy data for teas and greens and everything works fine, but just being able to, whatever that. Yeah. Maybe, maybe I'll put that on my list. And I would just say continuing to zoom in on, on just making the broadcast more and more, uh, intimate. Like I did great jobs with player caddy combos and low handheld cameras in fair ways to show off layers and things, but just the more you can make it zoom in there, I want players telling camera crews to back up. All right. Like the guy, the guy got like on the green, uh, filming Nelly, uh, which he was staying on the sprinkler, uh, on whatever hole that was. Like I was like, what is that? That camera guy's getting in there. Oh, he's documenting. She's staying on the sprinkler head. Like I want to see them keep getting aggressive, um, and keep leaning into ways you can make things a little bit different and just do not be afraid to try a single thing. Um, just the way they're social is, is already changed a lot of just like the way they introduced us to Natasha Andrea, this week was super interesting or press con like a little 45 second mashup of her press conference. They did have just the weird crazy shit. She was saying all over the place, uh, was just like, Oh, okay, this person's got personality. It might, you know, I might be a little, you know, this might be a little like young for, for my generation, but like, all right, this is easy person to root for. Um, keep, keep doing that. And, and they're going to, it's going to continue to improve. So great first step and help keep the, obviously the venues in the schedule is, is paramount, like way more important than, than anything else. And then I feel like next week we're going to have a, we're going to have a step back next week at the Arizona. Yeah. Um, but then very curious to see how they set up shadow creek in a few weeks. Oh, shadow creek is sweet. And that place can be so hard. The last couple years. Yeah, I know. Back to the golf, uh, Hiyoju Kim winning with so many, so much less in the tool category than Nelly Corta has of like watching Nelly backspin one in the part of three 17th with like a nine iron. And what I know Hiyoju kind of pulled it and hit a hot, at a hot Carl, but like, it's what even close to be able to hold that green gets it up and down just to watch Nelly three putt like watching, it seems like she had so many bad shots and she shoots like 17 under par and wins it. Like it's just a really wild, the impressive scrambling ability and short game. Uh, I don't think, like, I swear she was not anywhere off from 141 or 142 ball speed on any drivers I saw today. It's the exact same, like almost every single time. Um, and I just have so much respect for it because it's just, uh, she's so scrappy and so tough and just not someone I would want to be locked into a duel with. I was joking with my wife was watching with me and I was like, God, I wish we had like live loop data on Hiyoju because I swear like her heart rate wouldn't get above 80. Like she just, Cody and I got to do the program at the AIG women's open last year and she is like just so chill, so even keeled. And I think her personality reflects in her golf game solid to your point where it's just so steady, so consistent. Like when she's on, she's just like, she's just flushing it. She's, she's hitting it properly and then she's got a good enough short game. You know, when she's making putts, it's like, yeah, she's a top 10 player in the world, like that, that's, that's the formula. Um, she just doesn't seem to get bothered by anything. And so even when you have Nelly mounting this charge and, you know, Nelly can do some things with the ball and the clubs that she can't. It's just Hiyoju went about her business, got a great break on 13 and parlayed it into a win. I've, I love the contrast, I guess a little bit. I thought that's partly what made this dual interesting was like you had a real contrast in playing style, personality and popularity for an American audience. Thank you. Uh, what'd you guys make of, of Gino? Just final round 73. TC, I'm glad you asked. I was pissed at Gino. You know, I was, I was settling in. I knew I was watching this final round. I was looking forward to it. I perused my, you know, here in Colorado. I saw Gino was even money to finish top five. I said, Oh my God, give me that all day. And she goes on and shoots a freaking 73. Um, oh, you're the first two holes. Center some DMs big. I know. I think it was just seemed like just slop. Eh, she just seemed not on it. Um, just sloppy. I think that the question we want to see Gino answer is when the ball rolls a lot on the ground, can she be the best player in the world or does she need it? Soft and scourable. And yeah, I think this was an interesting data point to that. And TC will seem to be coming around. Well, that brings me to our, to our next question. Um, we have, we're about one month out from the first major of the year. Of course, there's five majors on the women's side. Uh, I couldn't figure out a non confusing way to word this one as well. But like you get to name, you try to pick the major winners for this year. We're not going to try to match them up with the actual majors. All right. But if you had to pick five players to win majors this year, and if you, you know, if one of your, your players wins multiple majors, that, that counts as well. But you get five players to cover the board on the LPGA tour this season, or like assume that there's a different winner for everyone. Who would your five major winners be if you had to try to pick to get as many points as possible for this year? Randy, I'll start with you. All right. I mean, I guess it'd be shocked if I got to take Gino and I got to take Nellie. Yeah. I'm just putting those two on the board. Um, and I think after that gets a little interesting. I think Hannah Green is somebody and I know TC, we're going to mention, she won the Australian women's PGA for third win in, in three starts across both the LPGA and the LET. Uh, I only think Hannah gets more interesting because they're going back to Hazel team, which is where she won for her women's KPMG PGA championship. So yeah, give me, give me Hannah Green. I think she's been knocking at the door for the last couple of years. Uh, she, she has. Leveled up her game. And I'll just say, let me just make a sidebar, uh, talking about H. Shae and now like this exercise, this is where I get frustrated with the lack of stats, like it just, it would be so much more compelling if we had a treasure trove of just real stats that we could data boy. Yeah. Um, so give me Hannah. Uh, I'm going to take, I always feel good about Minji Lee, winning a major. That was my fourth. And then for my fifth, I was thinking I, I need a Japanese player. Uh, I'm going to go with one of the EYs and I picked Chisato. EY. We're my fifth. Do you see what's your five? All right. I'm going to go with this or do you need? Oh, I did. No, no, I did. I did. I'm just Randy's in my head now. Um, yeah, we got Hannah Green. She's got her husband, Jared on the bags. Like she's, she's winning everything in sight, but I don't know if we're going. I don't know. I think Latham's going to be really interesting. I think we're going to be fascinating, fascinating tasks. Like one of the tournaments I'm most excited for this year, but, uh, I'm going to go with Angel Yen. Okay. Uh, I think she wins Hazel teen. It's a great course for her. Uh, sorry, we played with her at Hayslain and I just can't get that out of my head of like, she's just, she's just. Taylor made it for that course. Uh, I've got Minji as well. I think Minji wins something like Riviera. Um, I've got Lottie wode. Lottie is going to win a major. Um, would love it. Yeah. I wouldn't be shocked if she won a couple. Gave her consideration. I've got Rio Takeda. We're in a major and then I've got me, you, Yamashita as well. So I've got two, two, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Interesting. Good on you TC. Truly, because I thought I was, when I saw, saw these questions, I'm like, why don't we just make it three? Well, I'll take Nellie and Gino, but good on you for, for bucking that. And I thought about Lydia or, but I don't know. I don't know where Lydia's heads at, right? It feels like she's, yeah, it feels like she's kind of got one foot out the door. The one I struggle with it in, sorry, I know I'll set you up here for your five, but one, like picking the right Japanese women woman. And then Ronnie Yin, I didn't know what to do with because she hasn't been playing great golf, but saw, give us your five. Who do you have? Well, yeah, I don't have a Japanese woman that feels off, but like it was mostly because I couldn't decide on, on which one to pick. I've got Gino. I got Nellie Chevron. Uh, that's, that was going to be my thing of like the overseas though. And it being, you know, it played, played well for distance, uh, on the men's side last year, it makes me think this could be a gas pedal event for Nellie. Um, I think that this should be circled on our calendar. Like it should be a very, very, very good course fit for her. I got Hannah as well. I got Minji Lee and I got Lottie Wode. So mine is a makeup between your two lists. This was a little harder to do than I thought it would be. I thought I was going to get a little further down the board, but, uh, I, I've pretty much on it that I think Gino wins one this year. The Nellie Chevron matchup is what, if no, it doesn't win Chevron. I think that one could miss quite easily. Um, and then it's hard not to, not to picture Hannah Green winning one. Um, and people maybe sleeping a little bit on Lottie Wode, uh, just a little bit, just been a little quiet lately. Um, and then men G just fourth major is a lot. That'd be a lot. Um, but I just, there's just, once it gets into that hard US women's open, hard KPMG women's PGA live them. And then we've seen her have success, of course, at Evian as well. Like it's just hard not to take her to win one. I'm fascinated to see how they set up Riviera because you got the Kakuya around the greens. You can't run it up. Uh, like that, you know, the fourth hole, like how are they going to set that up? How far up are they going to move the T's? Otherwise nobody's going to hold the green. I bought Minji at Riviera. That was the one I was kind of like, when it gets tough, I, I like Minji. I think we're, we're probably all missing and I don't know who it is, but like not having a Korean winner feels like a, a very big miss. I absolutely, you know, I know I'm not going out of limb, but certainly a Korean women could win at least one major this year. There's only, there's only two Korean women in the top 10 in the world right now. Which is, is it, is it Hyoju and Haedon Roo? Hyoju and Seyoung Kim. Oh, Seyoung. Okay. It's on 13th. Interesting. She slipped. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I mean, there's only four in the top 20. There's twice as many Japanese ladies. So, um, I also really wanted to pick Charlie Hall, but like I, until she, I just, to actually, I'm going to have to see. Yeah. I was headed that way and I looked at it. I was like, I don't think so. I just, I just don't got a lot of runner ups, but not consistent major. Uh, performance. So, I really like the segment. I think in maybe before Chevron, uh, we need another segment like this picking five, like let's throw five would be first time major winners on the board. Does Rose, then we can prospect a bit. Does Rose Zang win a LPGA event this year? I, yeah, I'll say she does. That's hard to say yes to that. Right now. She's, we're coming up on two years since she's one one. We just gotta get school. We got to get the school stuff out of the way. And then I got to, I got to talk to some people, figure out if she's like healthy. There's some things we got to figure out there, but yeah. I mean, Randy, you know, it hurt me to not, not pick Lynn Grant. So what a major this year. That's Swedish. I know that was the other kind of country. Rainey, I'm just seeing the, you know, you read, I want to put these in the, the NLU record. Last year you predicted a win in five, a major and five worldwide wins for Gino. She won three times last year. Well, hold on. Are you counting the lady? Saudi. No, she won four. She won four times, but no major. You were, and you got a lot of that was from that being exactly right. That was a great call. Yeah. Thank you. You're exactly right. All right. We're going to get canceled online for waiting an hour and 40 minutes to get to TC's favorite event, live South Africa. Bryson DeShambo beat John Rom in a one whole playoff. Just what a moment. One of the most profound moments in golf history. I was reading about it online this morning, just, just a truly outrageous, never, never seen before. We'll get to the tweets to go through, but the golf tournament, it was a very good finish this morning. It was very, very, very wet. I didn't get to watch much until they got, I watched the eighteenth hole and then into the playoff, but people were very certain group. People were extremely jazzed up about getting Bryson Rom this morning. And I, you know, Rom, one of your quote unquote dudes got beat by Bryson. It was allegedly not a dude. Your opinion is not yet. Beneficially crowned a dude. Correct. There's only three guys in the crowd. Once you're a dude, can you fall out of dude them? Are you? So that was another thing we haven't really gone through. It's like a, it's, it's kind of how I'm viewing this is when you put somebody in the dude category, it's a year. It's at least a year long commitment. Like you, you are committing to like that from that point, that person is going to be here a year from now, still being like a dude in these tournaments. Ram is, Ram hasn't run. Ram has been there for like seven years. No, he doesn't, like he doesn't, he's the buoy. Like everybody says that about him. He's the buoy. He doesn't like have serious dips in this play. He's, he's a dude. He's just always there. I, but like, he's won recently. Like you've run still, he's, you, you agree that roms a better golfer than Bryson? Yeah. I mean, it's the similar conversation from South Africa stuff, but yeah. I don't know. You just, there's certain that, yeah, I don't know. Some of it comes back to like, you're essentially making the same argument that I make for Tommy. So. Absolutely. I'm not. John, Ram has won two major championships. DC. Tommy's saying over the last, the last couple of years, Ram hasn't won much. He hasn't won much since he's gone to live. Correct. Like he hasn't even won much on live, which is crazy. I know. So he's still like there. He's still playing very consistent golf worldwide. Like he's still, the floor is extremely high with Ram. He doesn't, that part does not go away. It's my overall point of why he's dude. Uh, anyway, I think, I don't know. I just, I think Bryson's Bryson's ceiling needs to be recognized. It's extremely high. Bryson is a very, very high ceiling. So I, I think, I think Xander's next up in nomination before Bryson is, is, is a, is a point that we can table that conversation. We'll get there. Two times. US open. I kind of think you're underselling Bryson. One's a COVID one at wing foot. Like that. The other one was like Mono and Mono against Rory at Pinehurst on fantastic. Bright and Xander won two majors that year. So read the tweets, read the tweets. The tweets were from the early part of the week. Arlo White had a tweet that says, if you could shape your opinions with a broad view of the wider world and not a myopic and self-serving obsession with a single nation's dominance of an entire sport, then it's just obvious that term, it's like this are fantastic for capital G golf and for a country like South Africa. Uh, that was, that was from Arlo White. Luke LV was very online this week. Uh, he said, I'm never acknowledging another person who says live golf is meaningless. The league is doing more to grow the game globally than anything or anyone else right now. And all your hate towards it won't change that fact. Change is happening in real time. Uh, he would also go on to say probably an unpopular opinion, but it'd be great if golf channel had a one hour highlight show to recap the days play at live golf. Since it was in the event is in a hard time zone, uh, for North America or those who complain they can't watch some of their favorite players anymore. Yeah, that I'm sure they're going to get right around to that one. Uh, he also said, if you've been an advocate for a United global tour like me, listen to the joy and emotion, Burmese golf speaks with. If you still believe all the best golf in the world should only play in America, then unfollow me now. You are the problem. It's a shame that like live refuses to go to Chile, right? Like they, they, they, they refused to go to Waco's home country. They refused to go to Argentina. They refused to go to. You got to get to New Orleans, man. Areas, corners of the world's golf tour, you know, is totally underserved. I'll say the same, it's the same conversation after Adelaide. It is very clear that there is a market for this level of golf, uh, in South Africa, they had massive crowds this week, a hundred thousand people, uh, they're like the report, you know, the vibe was incredible. People were seriously into it. It's still the same conversation to me. It is not, here's what, here's the part that gets where I'm at on this is like. For everything that anyone involved with this league has to make it about the PGA tour, like everything they do has to be about the PGA tour. Like you're missing. Like just, just every comment about it is just laced with like you guys are idiots for missing out on this. There's no awareness, no awareness at all that we have given this a shot. We have looked into it. We've watched it from a far, from a competitive golf. It's not why I love golf. Like it's not as a competitive enough product that it's where my interest goes in golf. That's why I think ROM should not be playing there. That's why I think Bryson should not be playing there. I don't think camps, but it should be playing there. Neiman, Hatton, those guys belong on the best golf tour in the world. That's what I like about golf, like the most competition. Some people like music while you're playing it. They like, you know, big, it's a concert tour. They have concerts at every one of the, like it's a great outdoor event. It's great for people to attend. Every report I've ever heard from people that go to the events say that they're fun. I don't get to go to, I don't travel the world to go into golf tournaments. I watch a lot of them on television. I have no interest in the television product of this, of this. That's, that's still the same. Like you can do these things can be true. It's great to bring some of these events, bring some of these really top level players to these locations that was always an option in a different world. They didn't do that until they were contracted with Saudi Prince money to go to these places. Some guys do go play Africa's major or the Joe open, but I mean, yeah, I, I don't disagree. I think that there's good weeks on live. And then I think the bad weeks are like really bad, really bad. And this is like, was like, this was a good week for live. Like this is again, a micro thing. I said the same thing about Adelaide micro. Like, is that a, does that event a good thing for the golf world? Like, of course it is macro. Was it worth blowing up the entire professional golf world for this? Is it worth that? Rom, maybe missing a writer cup, which we can again get to. Is it worth him not being on, you know, playing in the players? I've absolutely not. Like, of course it's not, but that it's, it's not that much more complicated than that. And it, a lot of the sentiment this week was like, wow, the PJ tour missed the boat. Like they really missed the boat, like not taking this thing worldwide, not taking it global. It's like very clearly, like extremely clearly the corporate interests for the PJ tour are in America, like extremely clearly, like it is not in the PJ tours best benefit. Like from a selling standpoint and dollar making standpoint to take their tour on the road and to like operate these massive events at a loss in all these locations. Like live is doing live as a very different model. They have unlimited funding for Masati Prince and it's not a real business. So they can afford to do this and, and make this big scene about at all and make us feel like we're all missing out on it. And like, it's just not a real thing. It was never a real thing. It wasn't a real thing for Ron. Rom never went to these places until he was contracted and had to do it. Like there's a reason, there's probably a reason for that. I'm like, I don't know how else to say that. Nothing that happens on live is going to change like the facts of the matter. God, I love when you get riled up about this. And I just like to, I don't know, it's happening. They'd be far better off just throwing a bunch of money into national opens and put standing up a massive. It could be so much better. I know. Like, yeah, like that's where I think the DP World Tour should just call them up and say, Hey, we will bring your money into the ecosystem and give you an off ramp here for live. And sorry, I just don't think you like the crushers either. They, who was my team smash? It was smashed, but you need to retake the quiz. I might need that. I thought that was TGL. Is there a, is there a live quiz too? It was a live quiz to. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, the, like this was right there for the Southern guards. Some of their, some of the, the, like I read through all the press conference transcripts this week, just some outrageous stuff in there from all corners. I know the, the crushers went off on, on rollback, various things. Bryson, it was sort of crying. He had all sorts of, you just, yeah, just a lot going on. It seems for him personally, no, but no details there. He paused for a group hug with the crushers behind the green there. I mean, the, the, the Schwartzle couldn't hit a driver down the stretch and just, they'd like, the Southern guards just completely bottled it. They, they, they choked down their legs. They're probably drinking their brandy and brandy and coke tonight. Bryson shot in the playoff was absurd. It dropped out of muddy like 320 yards out of the rough, hit it under the grand other at altitude, but it was an insane, insane shot. I think, gosh, looking elsewhere. David Pooge playing good golf right now. Another like T six for him. Randy, your guy, Bond, honor, bond, Lahiri. It's just so weird to see like Bond and Harl's howl and then like Bryson. It gets, I just, just, just, and then Paul Casey is just there. Mickelson was back this week. Uh, just kind of unceremoniously, Blandy T12. Pretty good week for my crush or from my, for my, for my cliques. Yeah, they got cliques, uh, solo sixth this week, just ahead of the high flyers, beat ripper, beat the aces, beat smash, you know, range goats are kind of all over the place. Korean golf club is just the Jirags this year. They were DFL by nine, but, um, but yeah, just some, some truly outrageous stuff as far as the, uh, as far as the press conferences, like they're just feeding these guys red meat. Yeah. The, uh, the, the paid live, uh, actual media people asking Bryson, like, how does it feel? What could you believe you're the most popular player in the world right now? It's like, okay, maybe, yeah, maybe that, uh, maybe it, the, the, can we do the rollback stuff? Like Bryson, uh, was, I don't know what he was asked about it, but he would go on to say, if you want to say that a driver back in, uh, 2009 is worse now, I would actually disagree with you, uh, on that. I think they're relatively the same and not much has changed. You can change it that much. You can't change it that much with the rules being the way they are. That's so false. That's so incredibly false. The, the forgiveness on the drivers, like the title of street that I'm giving it's so much more forgiving than even the TSR was documented through robot testing too. Like that's, that's crazy, crazy false and somebody that claims to be a physics major or physics physicist, like wouldn't know that of course. Um, because I think it's a lot more than, uh, it's a lot more of the athletic ability and not being as afraid to go after shots or swing harder or be more aggressive, let the athletes be athletes and let's go have some fun. Again, try to marry those two things. Like you literally said, allowed not being afraid to go after shots. Uh, the equipment's giving you free permission to wail on as hard as you can. Um, let's have some fun. Brighton, what if my idea of fun is different? Like why, why do, why do we assume a uniform definition of fun? That's what I never understand. Here's where I'm about to, about to blow by top, though. This is, this is the worst part of all of it. He said, what are the bodies of golf trying to accomplish? Are they trying to preserve the traditions in history of the game or they trying to grow the game? Cause those are two different things. They can cross over in some facets in some regard, but when you're trying to preserve the tradition and said history of the game, yeah, you're going to want to go back to a golf ball that's going shorter because players are more athletic. Yeah, you're going to want to shrink the heads. You're going to want to do this or that. But if you want to grow the game, that's not how you get kids to hit the golf ball farther and enjoy it and want to be a part of this game. They're at a bit of a crossroads right now and they have to answer those questions. What do these governing bodies really want? If they can answer that, then we can start moving in that direction. But right now they have to answer that question before us players can get involved because if they, they want something different, well, us players may want to make it easier for others like I do. So are you saying that the governing bodies have not in fact answered that question? Oh my God, Bryson, they have answered this question so many possible ways. In 2002, the joint statement of principles, the RNA and USGA said any further significant increases in hitting distances at the highest level are undesirable. Okay. Question answered. Now, if you really want to get specific on this and I'll try to get through this as fast as I possibly can Bryson. The distance insights project February 4th, 2020. The USGA also said, we believe that this continuing cycle of increases is undesirable and detrimental to golf's long-term future for two main reasons. First, the inherent strategic challenge presented by many golf courses can be compromised, especially when those courses have not or cannot become long enough to keep up with increases in the hitting distances of the golfers who play from the longest teas. Increased hitting distance can lead to a reduction in the variety, length and creativity of shot types needed on such courses and to holes, more often being overpowered by distance as well as to an increased emphasis on the importance of distance at the expense of accuracy and other skills. This can begin to undermine the core principles that the challenge of golf is about using a broad range of skills and making risk reward judgments during around the result is also that an increasing number of such golf courses, both widely renowned and less well known are at risk of becoming less challenging or ultimately obsolete for those who play from their longest teas, serious loss for the game. Would you like me to continue? That is that. Could that be any more clear? Could that be any more clear? Second, the overall trend of golf courses becoming longer has its own adverse consequences that ultimately affect golfers at all levels of the game as a whole, expanding existing golf courses and building longer new ones often require significant capital investment and higher up annual operating costs. Overall, the trend towards longer golf courses puts golf at odds with the growing societal concerns about the use of water chemicals and other resources, pressures for developmental restrictions and alternative land use and the need to mitigate the long term effects of changing climate and natural environment. We just need to answer these questions. The US. Is this the second week in a row that the that the crushers have gone off on rollback or was this all the stuff from like a week ago? I thought this was all just this week. Okay. Okay. Maybe it was. I did see Bryson. Uh, he got asked, you spoke about the drivable part of fours. I know recently you spoke about the nine toilet Cypress point being one of your favorite risk reward holes in all of golf. Bryson said, yeah, it is. Question. I know you potentially have a golf project brewing in California. How much do you think about golf course architecture outside of being a professional golfer and playing golf? How much do you actually think about golf course design? Bryson, you have asked some of the most incredible questions this week. I really appreciate your questions. All three in the front have been amazing. Everybody has been great too. They've done a great job. Yes. I love the drivable part of floors and I am dabbling in some architecture and design. I've already designed a few waiting for them to get done. I quite honestly think about having two, potentially three drivable holes on each course. I think part threes are too long nowadays. I think it would be so cool to have a 40 or a 50 yard part three. Why don't we have that out here? Blows my mind. I think one of the most brilliant things the USGA did at LACC was have that 55 yard part three. It was like 97 yards. I forgot what a hole was 15 or something like that, but it was such a brilliant, brilliant design for that 35 yard shot. I think golf courses should be more like that. There should be at least one hole that's super short that really makes you think there's consequences to bad wet shots. Bryson, you need to go down to, uh, uh, LaCoumbre down in, uh, there's a 66 yard part three down in Argentina. Uh, also he says, I think that would also speed up play. I think the game has gotten really long. We don't necessarily need that. Yeah. I wonder why the game has gotten so long. You need to make the greens a little quirkier and more unique and the shots a little more quirky and unique. That's what can make golf really fun. As I'm thinking about design, moving forward in the future, there's some really cool tricks up my sleeve that I want to apply or try on the golf course when I'm designing. Very excited for that. But yeah, there will always be drivable par fours on every golf course that I design. So this sounds like a pace of play nightmare. That was a horrible idea. It's like wildly tricked up par threes that you just can't get the ball in a hole on. Why is nobody doing this? Well, that's a question the USGA needs to answer. They got it open again. And you want to talk about grow the game just again, a reminder, I believe I have these stats right between 2003 and 2018 golf saw a decline of over 6.8 million players and more than 1200 course closures in that time. COVID brought it back. It was not, it is not big head drivers and the ball going far that is making golf thrive. That is just, it was in decline. I think every single year from 2009 all the way to 2019. If I remember that, I couldn't find the exact stat on that. If I remember right. So again, I'm just a complete false narrative of everything Bryson's getting into. But Bryce, golf needs, you know, golf needs its version of pickleball is what I think. Just siphon off a bunch of people. Yeah, whatever that is, just top golf is supposed to be that and have a great time. And that's awesome. And if that's what you dig, then more power to you. And then like, can we shrink the game and have golf be golf for those that like golf? Bryce and also had another one. There was a question. It's very emotionally draining your profession, your sport. It's day one of four. Your finish on 18 was electric. What happens now with the rest of your day? How do you decompress? What are the things you do to go through to know that you can do it all again tomorrow, Friday, Saturday, Sunday? Yeah, great question. Personally, for me, I'll go sign some autographs that actually re-energizes me. Makes me feel really good about what we're doing here. That gives me a little bit of life to go practice for a good 30 minutes. And hopefully I figure out the driver real quick. Once we get treated, actually the spa here is unbelievable. So I go into the salt tub and there's like a magnesium tub. Just crazy. That helps me relax quite a bit and I get treatment from our team. You can call him a physio. He's not really a physio, but Ryan treats me and he makes me feel a lot better. And then I'll go relax. I'll probably go watch Pirates of the Caribbean or something tonight. I was watching that last night, so that was fun. All right, we've got a Chris Pratt reference. This Chris Pratt quote about, do I want to be somebody else or do I? Like, I don't know what I want to be anymore. 2022. I mean, just go read the transcripts. They're insane this week. Oh, on the DP World Tour American, Jordan Gumberg wins the, what about China? Hannon Classic by one over Jorge Campillo. The cray is a floodgull. I didn't watch any of it, but the pictures of the golf course were insane. There were some actually some really cool holes out there, but you got 90 seconds to get whatever you want in from this one. The bullet market, Marcus Armage starting to round into form. Adria Togway with his third top 10 in a row. Tough Sunday for Oklahoma State alum Bo Jin. He totally bottled it. He was kind of in the driver's seat here. Randy, a caddy fell in the water. I did see that. Close. Yeah. DJ said he was like, man, you were a week early. I was like, damn. Kita Nakajima, straight with one. Like he just straight with the shot out of the fairway. It was crazy. There were underwater. He was trying to pull off of it. There was a noise and like he tried to like, did it count as a show? Or no, I don't know if it ended up counting, but like it looked as close to a real shot as it possibly could have been. There were some underwater bunkers. I didn't understand that over. Yeah, that was kind of crazy. They were marked like I couldn't tell if they were actual hazards or if they got in a bunch of rain or whatever. And then yeah, it's DLF week this week. So P is not in the field, unfortunately. At some point we're going to have, it's going to have to be reflected in his fedora five ranking. And then Akshay is making the trip and David is in the field as well. So and then Sally, just a couple other various notes I had. Did you guys see the Jerry Kelly back injury video? I'm going to start. I have to nominated to start doing that when I have to withdraw with back entries. That was great. The drugs just weren't strong enough. Um, you know, he was just gutted to have to leave the Colo Guard. Sally, you were quite chuffed by this one blocky son. He's what entered was it a Monday Q or a section? I don't know. I just saw he was in the tournament. He goes by his tick tock handle. Poo tea cuts block. I did get a kick out of that. It was kind of funny. The potential great man, Harry Hall, uh, it was with his absolute boys. He flew one of his childhood best friends over for the Piki blinders premiere in NYC, uh, just a just a great aesthetic from him. I love their New York. What else we got? We got guys went down to high grove. Crazy Gil Gilhans, Jim Wagner joined down in, uh, kind of west of Lake Okeechobee, South of Sebring. Crazy, kind of like Innisbrookie. And then like you're like, whoa, I'm in Florida. This is like playing on these the south edge of the Lake Wales Sandridge. And, uh, yeah, like through the orange groves and stuff. It was very, very good. So I would anticipate that one hitting, hitting the rankings lists here in the next, you know, eight to 12 months. Thank you, TC. That is going to move us towards wrapping. We have a PGA tours off to Houston this week. LPGA tour has mentioned his head to Arizona for the Ford championship. DP world tour is off to DLF for the hero Indian open live as often till the masters get this one corn fairy tours back in the States for the club car championship at the landings golf and athletic club that is up there for most good. Turned words, most words in a tournament in professional golf. So, uh, Jen, did not expect us to go two hours tonight, but it's always a treat. Chatting with you for TC and Randy. Thank you everyone for tuning in. We got a fun masters pod coming up for you this coming Tuesday. And then of course, we'll have another recap pod coming up this coming Sunday night. Thank you very much for tuning in and we'll see you next week. Cheers. Crack on.