Episode 472 | Hovpocrisy

This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed human. No, warrior's mom. No. Conductible. No, warrior's mom. No, no, warrior's mom. No, warrior's mom. No, warrior's mom. We are back. Yes, we are. Middle of the week. Yes, it is. How's everyone feeling? It's just me and you in here, bro. You can't ask how everyone's feeling. Just ask me how I'm feeling. Well, Peej is here, too. You want me to get into it? All right, so, Jay, check this out, right? You're hopeless. You know I love you. Calm down. Everyone relax. Everyone relax. All right, man. Let me sip my water, man. It's not really water, but I'm going to call it water. Before we start, no one wins when the family fuse. I want to make that clear. That may have nothing to do with what you're about to say. I'm just saying no one wins when the family, I mean, yes, the song one. Somebody in the family is going to win. It might not be you. We are back sponsored by Boost. Also, this weekend, we have our merch pop-up shop. Yes, sir, Cafe Comodo, 286 Broom Street this Saturday. Come check us out. 1 p.m. to 6 p.m. We will be in the building. Shout out to C. Shout out to Carla, everybody over there at Cafe Comodo. Yeah. We picked the menu today. We have some beverages named after us. Good vibes. Good beverages. Good vibes. Good food. Good music. Good eats. Good conversations. Good domino games. Excuse me, bones. Fair. Pissing bones. Just come on. Have a good time, man. We'll kick it for a few hours, man. Also, we're doing a little bit of intern hazing as well, our intern Ryan. Ryan, you're out of here. It was a good run, baby. He also DJs. But I mean, Ryan was also born, I think, in 2015 or something. Yeah, 2017. He was counting. So, you know, we got to give him some time to grow. But if you'd like to intern Shane, come early, because he will be on the wheels of steel. Yes. He will be very critical of every transition that he does. Yes. You can record him and post him and let the people know on your feed if he's terrible or not. But Ryan will be DJing. Shout out to our guy, Ryan. He hit me today that I hope he feels better. He said he was sick, couldn't come in today. I kind of felt like maybe he was trying to take the time to lock in. Yeah, to lock in. Get his serato together. You're Ryan. No worries. Take a next day, get your serato together. It's all good, man. Yeah. That or he was so excited that Yeet put out an interview that, yeah, he couldn't make it here. Probably both. How much Yeet do you think is to be in the set? I hope none, but I think he probably has some Yeet in there though. But I don't know if it's Yeet vibes though. Is Yeet that early today? Where is Yeet vibe? I mean, you know, Yeet is a little uptempo. It's a little, you know what I mean? Teenage Mosch. Little rumbuk shit. Did you see the Yeet track list feature thing they have? Yeah. It's like the we are the world. Yeet has Sir Elton John on there. Yeah. Come on, man. Let's see. Got the complexion for the connection. I'm not here to shit on Yeet. I don't even know how we got down that path. Shout out to Yeet. Shout out to Yeet. Saturday we will be there. Also our brother Gerald Prince Miller just put out an episode today with Joey Merlino. The OG. That is a great. The OG's. The OG's. Great, great episode. Shout out to Joey Merlino. Shout out to Snuff. Skinny Joey's cheese steaks, man. Yes, sir. We gotta go down to Skinny Joey's. Yeah, he said I think they'll be there in two weeks. He said for us to come down. All right. Because I think him and Prince are doing something to do. I didn't dare ask Joey and and and a little Snuff to make a video. Make a vegan cheese. Cheese steak. I thought they would have. What? I'm just saying. I just didn't think to, to, to like, yo, you ain't got a vegan cheese steak on the menu. I didn't think to. You don't think of a 50 year old Italian man from South Philly wouldn't be progressing about your vegan needs? I just, I just don't think so. I just don't think so. So, but we're going to go down there and check them out and support the guys anyway though. Yeah, absolutely. Um, but yes, I, I feared today. Why man? What's up? Man, you're an action star. You don't have to act bizarre. Yo, I'm so mad. Y'all didn't let us let that clip go out, man. When I was a hit. I, I, I mean, you want a little in, we thought we were protecting you. Yeah, man, but I don't know. Maybe that was, let me get my shit off sometimes, man. Come on, man. It's kind of what, what was needed for sure. Um, but yes. I didn't want to be responsible for any family feuds today. So I may, I saw it a few times and kind of let you rock. Jay Z has been doing a lot of announcements. He even added extra innings because the blueprint and reasonable doubt show sold out so quickly. Yes, sir. He did an interview, um, with GQ that came out two days ago. Yes, sir. With our guy Frazier. Shout out to Frazier, man. Great interview. Great interview. Um, and yeah, salute to him, answered in a Nadeska. I just think it's great to see great young journalists, um, getting the looks that they deserve. I was very happy that Frazier did this interview. Um, where do you want to begin? Should we talk about all the positive things? Sure. I think most of it was positive. It's always good to hear Jay Z. Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. But that's not what anyone focused on. What are you like a lot of gems and, and, and wise words that we could all live by and let go of his past. That's what nobody really wanted to hear any of that. Oh, they wanted to hear what's your opinion on rap? Yeah, you know that, you know, they went here, but I understandably, right? Jay being who he is and having gone through, uh, another one of the biggest battles in our culture, uh, with him and us. We would have killed Frazier if he didn't ask that question. Yeah, he had to. He had to, he had to ask that. But I mean, in, in, um, ironically, the response to that is kind of what Jay was, was getting at. Um, he was suggesting that maybe where the stakes are now and where rap is now, the rap beef may not be healthy for the culture the way that it is weaponized where it's, you know, trying to ruin people's lives, the stands on the internet all come together to try and ruin your family. And, you know, maybe that's not the, uh, best way to push the culture forward. You can be competitive on a record instead of doing a rap beef. There can still be the competitive nature, but maybe it shouldn't be in regards to how far maybe some of the recent beefs have gone and they fucking smoked them for saying that. And I, I'm not mad at people for it. Yeah, I understand the pushback that people have on that only, only because, um, I think it's necessary. I mean, if you, if you talk about, you know, and, and especially from whole standpoint, I understand J is obviously the elder statesman now. Um, he's in a different space, you know, in his life where he made me view things obviously differently than he did when he was so embedded in music and in rap and in the competitive nature of it all. But I think that, um, that's part of it, man. I think that's, you know, battling is part of, of hip hop is part of rap. It's a competitive thing. Who's the better MC? Um, you know, we, we have a lot of, you know, we, we have a lot of, you know, we have a lot of, you know, we, we have the debates all the time, whether it's, you know, in the barbershops on the block, you know, group chats, whether, whether, and it's online now, you know, social media, wherever you have these conversations in these debates, because it's it's all subjective art. You know, people are going to listen to things and they're going to pick their favorites and, and, and debate them and say why I feel like this person is better than that person. I don't think you could ever remove that. I do understand how things now are, you know, discussed is a little differently. It's a little more polarizing because so many people have, or what can be heard or be seen via social media, but I don't think we, we, you know, getting rid of it or it not being healthy or, or, you know, progressive for rap. I don't agree with that. You know, because you always got to, you always got to figure out through rap and through and through art, you know, who's the better artists? Who's the better, you know, especially in rap? Like that's just, you know, you know, you're not going to be able to do that. Like that's just, I don't know what rap is without that. Well, can you, can you do that in the way that Jay said as far as being competitive on a record together? Yeah, you can. Absolutely. I think it's both. I think you can be competitive on a record. And I think that, you know, in times, you know, em, em, em, seas and, and artists are going to have disagreements or have, you know, ways they feel about each other. And if they, if they decided to express that through the music, you know, I would rather them do it through the music than to actually run into each other in the streets and it become physical. I mean, of course. So yeah, so I would, I would rather it be that I would rather it be through the music and us to, you know, display your skillset through, through, through rap than to, for it to turn physical. And that's what we don't need. You know what I mean? But I don't want to, you know, and again, I understand. And then Jay spoke to it, you know, he, he sounds like the old guy wagging his finger. You know what I mean? Like, and it's like, yeah. I mean, it's, you know, like Jay had to go through it, you know, and other artists that thought that they were the best or further they had the best, you go through those moments where it's like, no, I'm, I'm better than you. I'm the best. And it's like, okay, well, if you're the best and show me the best, I just don't, that's something that has always been a part of it. Well, you, you can also come across as not just the old man that's wagging his, his finger or, you know, you also come across as like the hypocritical pastor to some degree. Like I'm not saying you can't change and grow, but don't wag your finger finger at us when you were rapping about putting condoms on baby seats and skeet and in a Jeep. Whoa. Like, and I'm not saying Jay, that was, you know, what, 20 years ago, of course you can grow and look at different perspectives. I've had different perspectives of rap, as of late, not to the degree that Jay has, but more so on the side of what it's done to fandom. I think that's where I think the stand sheet is getting a little too toxic and nothing to do with music. But I, I, I kind of hear him on the Kendrick Drake thing to some degree, but eight months later we got an extremely healthy rap battle with Joey Badass daylight. Right. Like it can still happen. Yeah. It just so happens that that battle was, it was the biggest battle of all time with two A-list artists that already had stands and then new stands came about it and they're just fucking weird. But you had a great example of another battle that had nothing to do with the toxic shit that Jay was talking about. Yes, you're right. But also to add to that to the Rory, I think the one piece and, you know, I've read comments and things over the last how many days and, you know, people are like, oh, I'm tired of tearing about this battle and all that. Well, when you get, you know, the guys that are the biggest guys, you know, from the art form talking about it, then yes, us as podcasters, we're going to talk about the battle and what those guys are saying. But oh, no, you don't need to be vague. Yeah. Our guy Quentin Miller. Sorry, man. We're going to keep talking about it. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Quentin, yeah. Quentin in the comments. Yeah, we're going to keep talking about it. Yeah. We definitely going to keep talking about it. But if Jay Cole is talking about it on a press run, I'm going to react to what Jay Cole said about it. 100%. And vice versa with Ho. Right. But to add to what you were saying too, though, Rory, I think that the one thing that I think people keep forgetting about this and the thing that I think turned it into something else. And, you know, my story and my stance has remained the same from day one. I don't think Jay feels the way he feels about this battle. If the word that was used wasn't there. Okay. Well, then I think that changes everything in this battle because we didn't feel that way after the Drake and Meek. We didn't feel this way after the Drake and Pusha. Right. We didn't feel we didn't feel these ways like, you know, it was too toxic. It was too the fan bases were getting to. But no one checked on Nikki after the World Tour line. You understand what I'm saying? But I think things completely changed and it was a different energy introduced because something as disgusting and as egregious as pedophilia was introduced. That energy was because words have meaning to have power behind it. Once you introduce that energy into this, it's a completely different thing. Now, because the energy changes from everybody. And I think that is what turned this into something that became more mud slinging, more, you know, of an attack, more of, from both sides, from the artists, from the fan bases. I think the energy completely changed because when we got push ups and like that, the like that, it wasn't, it didn't feel like that yet. Right. It just felt like, OK, these are some of the best going at it. Right. That energy, it was a familiar energy. It was like, OK, this is Drake and Kendrick's time now. Like, OK, cool. But I think after pedophile that changed everything. Well, all right. Stan's in this camera. Stan's. Let me teach you how to stand. You can be a stand and still be objective with who you stand for. I am admitted. Hovendra. He's my favorite rapper. I think Hov is an incredible person, businessman. But that does not mean I have to sit and fucking agree with every last thing you said, because that is you are correct. But that is extremely hypocritical when you then take that very toxic thing that Jay is speaking to and you put it on the largest platform ever with the Superbowl. Oh, well, yeah. Like, don't act like you didn't participate. Don't act like you don't have to stand on your hands. No, no, no, 100%. You know, and that was another part of it too, because, you know, Jay was like, you know, he spoke to that like, you know, the guy had a big year. Great. Understand. He's correct. But now, and this is the thing about it. And, you know, and I think that people for whatever reason, you know, they, because it was a battle and you know, it's music that they feel like, you know, Drake wasn't supposed to be so offended by that. You know, it's just rap. And it's like, no, no, no, no, no. No. Because the same way Jay sat there and spoke about their egregious allegations towards him about sexual assault. Yeah. On a 13 year old, which would make somebody that sexually assaults a 13 year old a pedophiles. Absolutely. Right. So it's it's one and the same. It's like those claims are so egregious. But just because one is coming from an alleged victim and an attorney and one is coming from an artist Doesn't make it any difference to me. It's like one and like Jay said once you claim once you say that Once you make those claims you have to be willing to stand on that. Yeah, because again, we're talking about halfway Sure about that. You can't you can't I think no no no no no no you have to be One million percent sure of what you're saying and understand the ramifications and the weight behind What you're saying, but okay, I hear you but it is different between um a filed lawsuit and a rap battle now different to oh, I'm not telling Jay or or Drake how to tell them how to feel about that. Yeah, I would be but you can understand highly upset if somebody said that about me Okay, even if there was no lawsuit and someone just say, you know, we're worried we don't know we guess I would feel a fucking way Okay, but I mean, I do think what the paperwork thing is is different But I yes Hove contradicted himself a bit in that because where was even a bit more contradictory is Let's say he is just talking about the stand-up and not talking about the lyrics because he did um Talk with Michael Eric Dyson about hey, I think you're overthinking this whole thing. It was just a rap battle So let's say Hove isn't talking about what's happening in the actual lyrics It is about Empowering the stand culture that's gonna dox the other side's family and do all this other weird shit on the internet And like really fuck with people's lives like you got barbs that will put you someone's address of their mother's house like That is very toxic and yes rat beef Has definitely contributed to that Heightening for sure, but either but those people are crazy anyways, they'll do it regardless even if there isn't a beef You enabled them even more with the Superbowl Let's not act like the k-bots and the ovos did not go even crazier once Jay gave Kendrick the opportunity at the Superbowl to look in a fucking camera in a red camera and go drink Heard you like a young in a host stadium to say pedophile. Yeah, so either way However, Hove is looking at it with the toxic part that shouldn't be here. You definitely contributed to it. You did to Amplifying Yes, and adding even more fuel to the fire with the toxic shit that he's talking about that I do agree with when it comes to the internet and stand agree. Yeah, but That made it ten times worse and but he also was correct his job is to get the biggest artist He said why would someone get mad about bad bunny? He's the number one streaming Artists I don't even so why would they even be pushed back Kendrick had a fucking crazy year? Of course, I'm gonna book him, but no you kind of have to you kind of have to just Sit down and shut up a little bit if if you're doing that like you could feel that way quietly But you can't say that and then contribute the way that you contributed well It's again because he's he's a businessman and it's his role to you know as You know being in charge of the Super Bowl have time showing entertainment To put on and put forth the best show possible. Yeah, right, but but like you said, yeah Kendrick as far as number wise that year 2024 amazing but as As a coming off of what though coming off like you said that energy that was there those you know Introducing that energy into a battle which turned it into something else which turned it into a more Felt like a more personal attack Yeah, sure and and and and again We've had the conversation numerous times and in my stance always been the same that to me is the worst thing You could ever possibly call somebody so To amplify that like you're saying to put that now on the biggest stage probably in American sports culture To put that message and that energy Naturally it amplifies it and it gives it more more more energy more life and I honestly really I don't have a Issue with Jay doing that. I'm just saying you have to be consistent in Your argument and your outrage with with both those things you can feel that way, but also like Understand understand we're all hypocrites. I'm not I'm not thinking Jay doesn't have a right to do that and then also be like Yeah, she's kind of nuts what we doing right now like he's not the first one quest love who we know Has contributed to this culture? Mount Rushmore versions of how much we know quest love to love hip-hop He got smoked. I think it was the first week of the battle. He tweeted was like, I don't know man It's just I don't know if I like this this type of rap battle like this is just getting weird and Yeah, and they smoked him like way I thought you was all about the culture battle like yeah, you can also get older and be like I just don't feel good about that. It's a it's a real thing like it's but again I don't think the the the answer is we shouldn't have that be a part of the culture I think every every artist every generation has their moment They have their time on the stage They have their their time to go through the things that you know that the guys went before them went through and I just think that was the time for Drake and Kendrick to have that moment now Looking back. Yes, we understand that you know things happen things were said that's you know Especially when you're an elder statesman you're like y'all y'all kind of y'all wildin, you know I'm saying I and I understand that But like you're saying at the same time. Yes, that was wild and those you know Claims are egregious and disgusting. That's the worst thing you could ever put on somebody especially when it's not true but then We didn't reward it with a halftime show. We rewarded with a Grammy You know I'm saying it's like it's it's there's so many other things that we have to look at around that we it's like Yo, yeah, I get it and I understand and I think that it went too far and things were said that shouldn't have been said But there was a lot of support behind that record and a lot of you know Rewarding of that song there was a lot of it throughout the industry. So yes, two things can be true Jimmy I mean and Dr. Dre was high-fiving It went too far nasty, but at the same time people rewarded it. Yeah, sure people applauded it and At the end of the day, here's a guy on the other end of that that has to sit back who has helped and put money and plenty of these same people's pockets Throughout the years He has to sit back and then watch that happen and watch that unfold and watch people that he felt like he had a Relationship with and he had you know a good rapport with support such a disgusting claim and accusation about The man that he is You know, yes, unfortunately, but you know as at the same time people people profited off of that People profited off of that energy and that message and that that disgusting, you know Accusation and claim like a lot of people profited off of that. So I get it. Yes. I do think it's different these days with With with with you know shit we and bases We profited off it, right? I do think it's different these days with fan bases and things like that I think it's you know, everybody has a you know, I guess a voice They feel like they can voice their opinion everybody can be seen because everybody can jump on social media and chime in So I get the energy just feels a little more divisive and a little more, you know, nasty and it's more of an attack type of vibe behind it But at the same time, you know, a lot of people still profited off of it and also amplified and helped Plant that message and that energy on the stage I want to be careful with my words here because I do still want to go to those concerts Where when Jay saying things that come along with the rap beef that are bad outside of what's on record shit that happens Off record that comes with it Jay has been accused. I'm not saying this to be a fact It's always just been a rumor and accusations three sides of every story Jay has been accused of if you beef with him There's times you get blackballed behind the scenes There's moves that Some people have said words about Jay on record and we never saw them again. Mm-hmm not like they died But like, you know, their career was over. We've heard a lot of stories But listen a lot of people tell their version when they don't fully understand something I'm not here to say Jay did that but that was always a running Rumer when Jay was more active in in rap because yes There's the Jay and Nas one because it was direct records back and forth, but Jay has been in subliminal battles with 25 rappers probably like at this point that maybe you didn't catch if you weren't like a super fan But you always heard that Jay was behind the scenes doing Business tactics to really get at you Mmm, is that too far because that fucks with somebody's livelihood family dreams Everything if I say something about you on wax and we just keep it on wax Why are you now making moves behind the scene? That's affecting my income and my opportunities within this business and I'm not saying Jay did it was always a rumor Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. That's just talk that maybe maybe the person that You know got into a little back and forth or had a little spat Which it maybe that person just wasn't talented enough to really, you know To surpass or continue forward in their career like maybe it was just that I guess what I'm really saying is Is it Uchiwale or is it one mic? Like you can't have it either has to be He was gonna be toxic like it's always going to come with something negative as well Why we're entertained by an audio bloodsport like it's gonna come it's it's it's quote-unquote war like you know Say it's a Uchiwale or one mic like you can't have as far as what though like you can't Say hey, maybe we should pull back on some of this because it's getting out of hand when I mean the rules have been there of it's a battle type of thing and It's war like you can make moves behind the scenes shit people are even Accused Drake's accusing universal of doing shit behind the scenes because of the battle and in his negotiations like you you can't have one without the other like Yeah, but again Like you wanted to be one way yeah, and I'm saying to hope to quote himself. Is it Uchiwale or is it one mic? You can't have You can't have it either way like It either has to come with this and he can say pedophile at the Super Bowl and you're involved with it Or you have to say straight up No more rap beats and I don't want to be a part of it. I think you can say both I think because that's a that's a real feeling of Jay like out of job because again He said I don't know if it if it's should be a part of the I think he knows it will always be but He's more so speaking from the the the the stance of at what cost You know I mean like is it is it worth it? Is it is it something that you know me like is just gotten to a point where things may go Too far so he can speak to that. I think that he knows as an emcee and as a rapper. I think he knows that That's always gonna be a part of it battling is always gonna be Emcee's gonna come along and feel like I'm better than this guy. I'm better than this guy And they're gonna want to display that I think that's something that will always be a part of it But it's it's not like he can't still feel like Damn, but I hate that part of it. Yeah, I wish that part of it wasn't you know Necessary and then we didn't have to do that. So I understand him feeling away. My thing is You know again He's a businessman so he has to still conduct business But you can't we can't say they're damn that's fucked up. That's crazy But here's the biggest stage in in our in our culture to Display that message and and and amplify like that to me is like While on one hand I get it because it's business and we got to put the best show and best biggest artist You know, we got to do that But then you have to understand how people are gonna look at it like okay, but That's amplifying it that's adding to the fire that's throwing fuel on this thing to make it even bigger and brighter Than it already is like so yeah, I got get both sides of it. He can feel like damn. This is crazy. This is nasty We shouldn't do this. I don't know if we should be doing this But the emcee and him knows this is something that's gonna be forever a part of the culture Oh, no for sure And I my favorite styles people like you can't come here change the rules It's the mud but everyone's allowed to feel like no, it's just not for me. So I I get that um It did appear in a very Jay-Z esque way. He was telling us that he is working on something Very big and he died he didn't dodge But he made it so open ended that it left you to speculate of like did he mean that Because I feel like if he wasn't he'd straight up be like nah not really like I'm not really that inspired But even you know, Fraser asked him about the the clips album. Obviously they they did the distribution with rock nation Um, so we all assume like all right. There's definitely a higher chance now That jay will be on it. Um And he said he almost was but he thought the next thing that he says should come from him and not a feature Which kind of made me feel like with how much he has to say He's working on something now Because if he if he wasn't I think he would have gotten the shit He needed off his chest with the clips feature the way he has in the past Call it do an album. All right. I got some shit on my chest But I think he's very intentional now because he feels like he wants to speak soon So that that's what I took from it and that could just be the fan in me hoping that that's the case, but I think he just straight up would have been like Nah, not working on anything. I'm just here to celebrate 25 years 30 years like I think the opposite. I think Somebody like jay is always working on something whether it means he actually went in the studio and laid anything down You know, I don't think I don't think he's done that. He said he had a lot of sketches. He just said they all suck Yeah, I I yeah like voice notes and you know, she like Yeah, no that because that's just who he is at his core. He's an mc So he's always gonna have an idea and you know, he he's always gonna have a couple bars that he just kind of You know comes up with but I don't think that he's You know fully in that mode of You know, I'm going in here to create this album and I'm going to hear the ladies bars now I don't think he's I don't I don't think he's doing that But again, I for a fact, he's always in his head, you know, he has He has uh some bars that he has in his head that he's you know kind of like tweaking and and and and just always kind of going over in his mind, but No, I don't I don't think he's he's actively recording and laying and laying verses down. No the way he was talking about, uh blue tovin Like the way he was saying how good blue is that piano should get here any note and just start on on something No, he's definitely heard some keys in the living room and And definitely started started rapping of like i'm keeping this This is gonna be used somewhere. Oh no always. I think that's the whole blue produced Yeah, no, I think no ideas. He has ideas. He's a creative. He's gonna always have ideas, but 44 keys Lay didn't lay down. I don't think he's he's in in the studio recording though. I don't think so. I doubt that We shall see um Anything else before we get to the the cold part that that stood out. Um, I just thought the way he talked about blue Getting on stage and and I thought it was a very self-aware parenting point of view He straight up like said it was the first thing she had to ever work for in her life Like because obviously look at her parents. She doesn't have to you know, want or need for much She said she was so gifted with a piano like she'd have to work for it She just gets on a piano and can do it right away. The stage stuff came Different like he was more proud of her to actually watch her work for something Rather than just be the talent that she was over here with the piano And I like I can see someone looking at that kind of harsh even of how he worded it, but I thought that was like a perfect Neppo baby parenting point of view like I'm not gonna sit here and pretend like my child like has to work for things Because she does she doesn't at all. So yeah, this is gonna be your version of having to work for something Yeah, because you need to have that instilled with you If you're that talented as is with music and you're also a child of two billionaires Well, how are you gonna learn any type of work? So I thought that was just a cool perspective because I mean rarely you hear billionaires talk about their kids and like Anything that they've had to do well create super creative parents like Oh, yeah jmb obviously, but yeah, I think I thought that was dope to kind of you know recognize that as a parent like She worked at that she put the work in to get better at that and you know, she had to really because that's not something that You know, I don't care who your parents are They can't just give you that ability to go out on stage and perform and be great and and you know Learned something like that, especially as many uh Different dance pieces that she had to learn like said I was dope for him to recognize that and kind of see that that the j dad moment like Oh, shit like she got it like she actually I actually watched her put this work in to get better at this Yeah, I was also happy because you know, we we lost jz to to la Oh, like almost a decade ago I'm so glad he hasn't gotten too progressive over there in Beverly Hills because he was like He had blue wanted to be on every song. I said if you think you're dancing to six inch heels at this show get the fuck off stage Yeah, as a dad, that's that's not the song you're dancing to That's the that's the that's the real dad part, right? Like no I didn't know it could be super Hollywood now. It's progressive. She should be able to do it No, no, no, no, no, no not not in this house. Oh, yeah, not in this house Maul, I heard you talking uh in the lounge earlier that you feel like you have to overpay for great wireless It's like a big thing that you preach all the time But I'm here preach that all the time But maul, you can get off your soapbox because boost mobile is proving that you don't have to overpay for great wireless Unlock the savings with 25 dollars a month forever Unlimited plan. It's a permanent price with no contracts. No price hikes No, no fine print when you find out you got to pay all this extra money Stop over paying a switch to a fair price at boost mobile.com today based on average annual single line payment of 18 t Verizon and t mobile Customers compared to 12 months on a boost mobile unlimited plan as of january 2026 the full offer details visit boost mobile.com um Frazier did ask him his relationship with coal which I know everyone wanted to Know about based off the alleged shot that coal said of the apparent goat um on the fall off I don't think they're in a good place jay-z gave a very very good pr pc Jay-z answer Of he's very proud of j. Cole and everything that he's done But there's shit behind the scenes like audits and something but he still has no negative feelings towards him I don't think we would have really gotten that answer if that was the case I think he probably feels away with with the audit which is news to me unless you guys had heard that and I wasn't aware I thought that was kind of like a bombshell that no one kind of brought up at all Because we don't see them together ever and I always wondered I was like I wonder why They're not as close as you think they would be We know Cole got off the label And I think it's important that every artist learned how to audit their label because god you'll find insane things when you do that but Jay is a businessman. Yeah, of course you gave coal his first opportunity It's did so much for him which coal would say as well, but that doesn't make you above an audit This business it's business and I but that's why I think what Jay said his answer. I think that is you know how he ultimately feels because People gotta remember it's a unique thing to be in business with Jay because he he came in owning the label He came in but he was also an artist. He had to fight for things So it's such it's a unique thing to have somebody that experienced it like that Who maximized his talent and became the greatest ever at this To be in business with them. They they understand the position of the artist very well, especially an artist that's trying to be independent And and and have as much control over his business as possible So I don't I don't think Jay takes that Like and looks at that like yo why you audit in me like what you think that I would try to I think he understands it like Like this is something that you should do like you should you should audit You know the the the company you're in business with like you should audit You should have to look at everything and make sure everything is I don't think that's a negative thing I think that became something that people looked at like. Oh, what do you mean? You don't trust us? It's business it's it's the music industry that we all know is very grimy and very, you know, nasty at times Like so I think that Jay understands any artist from that perspective because he is that guy He was in that in that same position at one point So I don't think that he looks at coal or feels a way about being audited. I don't think so You know if there was a law firm that did pro bono audits or like financial Investigator with fuck that it's actually called if they did that pro bono for artists They would make so much fucking money like the ambulance chaser version of that because you know a lot of artists Even if you think they're rich, they're not and all in a company Like universal rock nation club like that's that's really really really expensive Like is it worth how much I'm gonna have to pay with what they'll find right like I might end up losing money in this situation um But I do think if there was a firm that was just like knows that artists may not have the liquid capital To do a complete audit to a company like that we do a pro I promise you 99.9 of the time if you audit a major label and you've been on there for four to five albums You're you're finding bread though. Like There's no way that you're not I wish there was a firm that would do that because I think they they would make a shit ton of bread but um, I'm with you it may be weird coming from us, but Does that dead the friendship because I don't think jay feels a way about it? I think he thinks it's just business, but once you make that decision to audit me I don't know if I like It'd be weird if you hit me for a verse on the fall off like Remember I was saying I think jay is gonna be on the fall off because they've never Done a proper record Since mr. Nice watch and I thought that was personally a bad record And I don't think that should be the legacy of jay z and j Cole working together when I've seen what a legacy Like drake has with jay z with the songs that he has So I just assume fall off makes all perfect sense in the world started with j Even if I'm not on on his label gonna end with j on this last album I thought it made every bit of sense now. I see why we have not gotten A verse from j for Cole for quite some time. You think it's the audit Yeah No, man, I don't think so I don't know when this this audit started and they take some time But to me that that answers my question in my opinion Yeah, because I'm not saying they hate each other, but once you do audit somebody like I don't know if you guys have the The coolest relationship. I mean, you may not hate that person. I don't you say we're not going to the studio to do a I get what you say. I get what you say Do you doing what you supposed to do if I was in your position? I probably audit my company too because that that's standard. You don't know where certain money went Shit, I don't know where all the money went with my own accounting department because we are a conglomerate like Yeah, we could owe you money. I don't fucking know. Yeah, I don't go down to accounting every day when you're at that type of level but Nah, don't hit me When you at quad I'm not coming through. No, I'm with you. I understand It's funny, but I understand like what you're saying. It's like, yeah, but I don't know me. I just don't think just knowing the type of You know person j is I don't I don't think he feels Away about that like I understand what you're saying. No, we ain't gonna be you know, we ain't about to go get a coffee after this either I just don't think that is that much, you know that type of energy with j like I'm not fucking with cola He can't ask me for nothing or I'm never giving him a verse. I don't know if that's energy is attached to I don't I don't think so Yeah, well, I should even from the coal side if I was auditing someone again It's it's you're not auditing jay-z. You're auditing a huge huge record and management company You're not auditing shone carter So I wouldn't feel bad doing it if I had a really close relationship with j But I would also feel weird reaching out to him after I audited him Okay, like even if I'm cold. I don't know if I'd be like Bro, that could you could look nuts after we're going back. I'm getting updates from my lawyer. I'm cc'd on certain emails I'm sure if there's been an audit just for Sheer appearance they could add their mics muted jay's face and j Cole's face have had to be on the same zoom at one point for legal reasons I don't have feel like maybe be weird if I text to yo i'm working on this. Okay. Let me ask you. Let me ask you this is it Jay and Nas had their moment right both says some some wild things in that battle um Nars says some things that as a man if you say to me about me, I probably won't ever fuck with you again, right? Okay, they went on to work together after that whole thing, right? Yeah, but that's uh, hold on. So is that more is what nars said in the battle versus j more disrespectful than cold auditing the company Apple apples and bowling balls because it why? What one is a rap battle that that we can get over? Because yeah, and one is business they were egregious things. I'm saying wow that's It's it's different with that As opposed to being currently in like litigation with with an audit right now Like but no, I get what you're saying. I'm telling you sit down and clear they should out I'm talking about once this whole audit thing is over with and oh maybe yeah, maybe But that's what one is one is one is business and one is yeah is is is art and skill and you know part of a battle Like I get it. I hear you You are correct. Yes. Once everything is done There's a world where like hey, it was business cool got the money that you owed or or I found out there was nothing right, yeah Who text is who though the winner or the loser of that audit? because if I win and But which is fine if I win it's because you owed me the fucking money you shouldn't feel away Right that I that I won that way of course If you have to give up your money and feel away, but you owed this to me to begin with so you shouldn't feel away But who text is who what if Cole loses and there is Jay was perfect with accounting. Yeah, and actually matter of fact Cole. We looking through You actually owe us money right which is that could exist that can very well be just yeah That's where it could get weird With with it as well Who text is who? Yeah, I mean that but that's again. I just was posing the question Don't walk away with with five million dollars in my money and then text me. Hey, I have this open 16 for you as well Why not let's do it because then I'm dissing you about the audit on the fucking. Yeah, that will be fun Yeah, let me let me go at you on this verse like oh, yeah, yeah that that money that I found I think that's dope. Why not let's turn it into a moment Oh, you have a moment. You know how much fun jay would have with just an audit scheme You can't audit my influence. You feel like he would just go through everything you can't audit that he's done in his life I think you can't audit this opportunity. Yeah, you hear because of me. Yeah, I think I don't know man I just don't think that he feels any way towards Cole about I think he understands it from that perspective because again He came in as an owner as his you know own boss and he understands business from a different perspective than most artists would So we just saw with kids about that with Cameron and jaco. Yeah cam is sent sent out a lawsuit Um, which we now know which we could speculate was to get his attention Based off. Hey you you owe me a swap. You said you're doing an interview and now you're doing interviews and I never signed papers and you've been rapping on my beats and my voice is here like Perfect same same thing business is business doesn't mean that we can't be friends Doesn't mean that we can't sit down and do business after this doesn't mean that it's any hard feelings is business and I um I understand Cole's perspective On that as well. So The full episode is not out yet. We're recording this right now. Wednesday afternoon I was under the impression the shit was coming out Tuesday night But that was on revolt tv for real like on cable. It comes out tonight I think at like eight the full one. So we're only going off The two clips that have been running around the internet for the last five days. Um, we're cold Did tell cam like yo, I felt the way it was like, yo, you're suing me like what the fuck? but I understand your perspective of Hey, it feels like this guy's giving me the run around even though everyone's busy You said he was gonna do something you're not gonna do it. Okay Yeah, what would you like me to do in this situation? So I Appreciate Cole for looking at things from both sides because if I was cold too, I would be like lawyers like what do we come on? Man, what are you doing? Yeah, but I get it. It's business, man um How do you think the rest of this this interview is going? Did we get like the The main Juicy clips More or less. I mean what what what what more juices left though pause? Um, I mean, it's one that that we did It's one that we did address already. Um in regards to Cole wanting to to reach out to them and the last time that they spoke and Um, you had mentioned that they had not spoken um, you know since uh dreamville festival either was and we reacted to that and Naturally, we got smoked Were we accurate and let her know about drake and cold not speaking. Yeah drake and Cole spoke Once after dreamville fest, okay, but not Since not like us got you okay have not spoke at all because I I don't know drake. I don't I don't know drake I don't I have my so I have sources though. I don't know drake never met him. Don't speak to him So I don't want people saying drake told me anything. No, I don't know drake. I'm just I have sources They said you haven't spoken to him since not like us. I've never spoken to drake in my life Never had a conversation with him. Don't know him. I just know that drake and j Cole have not spoken since Right after dreamville fest right before The whole like may force may I got you okay dreamville fest was april So right, you know two weeks maybe a week before not like us maybe two weeks before have not spoken since um, you know, I don't I don't know what Cole is speaking to and he's interviewed saying, you know, he's Reached out or he's I don't know what he's speaking to but you know, I have very good sources You have a source at boost mobile that showed the call I have a source that boost mobile They said that has unlimited Text and data for 25 if j Cole has that why can't he reach out to them? I mean he doesn't have to worry about his phone plan He said he'd be wanting to shoot a text. I don't I don't know what we be wanting unlimited text To get boost mobile you can shoot unlimited text to drake to drake and Kendra for 25 hours a month Okay, yeah, I just want to make sure that was completely clear because I mean I don't really care about the internet I think it was hilarious that they said Maul's not spoken to drakes was not like us and you know, whatever they could all have their fund and no when I read that when I was But okay, so so that just because I wanted to clear that up because I know we had said maybe it was uh Before dreamville fest but again, this was all with it. Yeah, I mean span is being too bad. It was two years ago I think I misspoke the time. I but no drake and j Cole have not this is cemented stamped I don't give a fuck what j Cole is running around talking about. I know for a fact. He has not spoken to drake since Not like us came out right after dreamville fest. Yes the conversation happened After that, there's been no communication. There's been no talk that was two years ago Yeah, I take with that information which I will I think it's crazy that you haven't spoke to this man in two years There's been no type of communication and yeah, these my sources were my sources. I mean just As your man said I'm not just doing to the fact like all right. I'm sorry. You were off by like five days then Yeah, but you know people's on it, you know, they you know, you know, you know how this this thing goes and I don't ever want to Miss speak and you know, say the wrong thing. I don't want to pump bad dope. That's not who I am. I'm not pumping bad dope So yes, technically j Cole and drake have spoken After the apology after dreamville fest. Yes, but have not spoken Since not like us so that was April 7th the apology happened May 4th not like us came out In between April 7th and May 4th There was a conversation one conversation maybe maybe one and a half one of the possible whatever But post one of us. Sorry. Mr. Cole. I hit you back post Not like this on this side of not like us No communication. So and that was 2024 two years. That's their bc ad. Yeah old testament. New testament All right, but yeah, it's before Cole after drake, you know What man, no, I know I Thought it was great before Cole I know I know acronyms I get them before Cole after dreamville fest, you know, I goes acdc. Yeah, um I'm fine with like the internet is funny how much they kill like this podcast has no credibility. They know absolutely nothing the same breath they were saying Maul doesn't even speak to drake whatsoever and he's wrong about that and they believe Cole would never lie To camera on his face. So we're gonna go with Cole instead of maul the same fucking interview Cole comes out and confirms something y'all have been killing maul and I about for the last two years as well We told you that Kendrick was on The original fall off twice and we told you that drake was on the fall off twice And they smoked us But then get quiet when Cole says it and it's like All right, well, I mean sometimes they write Yeah, somebody's only a broken clock is right twice a day or something like that Or do you think that The information that we get or maybe we heard the two fucking kendrick verses that were on the fall off Or verse and a hook then maybe We heard it. I don't know. I would never say something with such confidence if I didn't fucking hear it from the source Listen, I don't know drake I just have very good sources. It's all I'm saying. Okay. I don't know drake I have very good sources. I I don't think I'm fishing for content here fishing for clicks But in that clip When Cole said yeah, it was crazy. He's had the fall off done Redition of it beef happened had to switch everything up and it's fucked up because Kendrick was on there twice So was drake and I know who leaked it. I'd like I know who did that I think we were the only podcast that Put that information out there. I could be completely fucking wrong No, no, yeah, fenn could have done it. I have no idea. Well, angela ye could have said it I don't know. All I know is I only saw a second. But but do you think he was saying Put it out there meaning told the public that they had that they were on the album or told Anyone that they want out meaning like somebody from And you know, he's in a circle that he knows let that out the bag like yo drake and Kendrick are on the album Like you think he's speaking to that or speaking to the fact that we said it publicly Because when he said somebody leaked it meaning like is it somebody leaked it to us or that we leaked it to the public I think but I think he's saying both. I mean you can't really have a leak if it doesn't go to the public And that and no you can have a leak if it doesn't go to the public I mean it could leak it a group chat of five people It's not a leak but that's what I'm saying. I mean but Because we said that when did we say that that was a long time ago. Was it a lot? I felt like it was only like a couple months ago. I think I said But no that that wait. Oh, wait. Whoa. Whoa. How the fuck did you land on that number 84 days ago? But even then crazy, we spoke about Yeah, so that's like two months around the around the actual beat we've We've been talking about that for a while. That's not the only clip that I did see that reddit had had found one of them But we had talked about it in 2024 around it. Like oh, shit This is gonna get weird because we know that kendrick is on this shit twice as of right now but we don't know if that could happen and That's something we we've been said. So yeah, I mean I'm not proud like I don't want to be a proud leaker. I just didn't think it was that crazy You know the la leaker I will shout out to the well That once was the la. Yeah, I wish you guys shout out to the first the fab boys break up me. Yeah, man The leakers gotta get back together. We need that Justin up you you're my guys. Um I didn't like the call said leet like it. All right Why I was fine saying I know you were fine saying on the other side was because it's not a crazy thing to say Yeah, not at all. I wasn't trying to leak something. That's not never my energy. I'm not leaking anything. I just I thought it was honestly I How did people not think that they weren't And we didn't even say like with full impunity, but I mean, yeah, I don't think it was crazy to say Hey, you know kenshaw and mars on the jake. Oh, wow. Mm-hmm. It's happening before They even talk about doing a joint album. I don't think it's crazy that he would put yeah, that's what I'm saying I don't that's why when col was like he sounded like disappointed like someone Like actually leaked the song almost But that's how it felt. I was just like right right right right. I mean Cool and on top of that if you go in the comments everyone thinks we have no credibility on anything So it's not like and it's not like You have to take it off now that somebody on a podcast said kentrick lemar is on your album Don't put that shit on us. You didn't put kentrick on because you haven't spoken to him. Right Don't don't don't put me in this. No, he's spoken to kentrick. Okay fair. I don't care who's Like I said last time he's spoken to grab. He was really gay. Um This is all gay But yeah, I mean, I don't know. I don't I don't think us saying that affected Why kentrick lemar or drake would not be on that out. I'm like damn surprises out now. I can't put it out Like no, I don't think it works Works that way and on top of that cold like maybe you know leaked it because there's been people around you that have leaked it I remember when uh, Rosenberg siphon all them leaked that there was a song That col was rapping to nas about how he feels like he let him down And then col and eve went on the internet were like that's so stupid Why would there's no song like that like that's dumb and then it's the outro like Hey man people around you this say shit. Yeah, it gets to people Mm-hmm, which again is gay, but yeah I mean, I but then so what I just feel like I feel like To me one because I did say that if kentrick was on a fall off that would be crazy so You know, maybe I feel like col felt that way as well like I can't you know Not speak to drake for two years and then have kindred on my album Like I think that he probably was like yeah, that will look absolutely Insane on my part, which I you know, I was very vocal about that that would look More insane than it already does But to have him on that album on the fall off would have been would have been fucking crazy. Yeah also on friday col will be On mellow show shout out to cash out to carmelo On 7 p.m. In brooklyn that comes out friday um I'm sorry to be courting. I just love seeing all my friends get all these amazing interviews Like I I I truly mean that when I saw a cash would cause like this is awesome. Yo, why are you with jz? Nah, but I'm gonna go with col. I think yeah, yeah, but fuck all that. I gotta get you. I gotta get you pushed back Why are you not sleeping in front of the shop so we can get the col interview? Like what you doing like why are you like you look like you can use a trim you look like You let you get to use a good line like why you ain't at the shop like just Just waiting for col to just pull up and just you know what I mean? Just tell col just come hollet us man. We we we we fuck with col. We just want to let him know face So yo, he gotta col you gotta come get this smoke man You can sit down with the desker and cam and all that that's fire. I think that's fire But col gotta come get this smoke He gotta come answer some I got questions for col. I got questions that none of these other niggas got I got questions for jamey. Oh lice can jamey. We're is mink in the rain. I got questions for you I got questions for lice can jamey. Um Of course, I would love for j col to come on this platform You sleep at the shop. It's that would have to be in my well first of all One yo willis we we come to steal your clippers. I'm not a we gotta hold this clippers from ranson. Fuck that col ain't getting to cut Fuck Bring the microphones to his shot Yo willis we coming willis his name willis willis we coming to get your clippers the bevel Whatever you got on that fuck we coming to slam all your bevels and take them shits out the shop We getting this col interview It would have to be like It'd be way better if it was his idea to come sit with how people perceive Our col haters which I know in fact i'm not and I don't think you are But people have perceived that maybe we would be col haters I love everyone that he's sitting down with I think that's great fire And if you want to do the full positive press run, I'm never mad at that either I'm not one of these people that thinks everything with journalism has to be negative in gossipy But that would be a cool a cool balance. I think for the perception of your press run to go To people that are they're not haters, but There's been a history the last two years of of having some comments. Mm-hmm. So I I would like that but I only if like Cole wanted to do it Yeah, I'm listen. We're sitting here just talking because we do a podcast. We just talking shit. I mean, I really I'm not mad if Cole doesn't want to Of course, that's I don't you know, I mean that just that's means it's nothing to me I'm not losing sleep over that But no, I think that it would be it would be cool to have a conversation face to face. I've never you know had uh Conversation with Cole like, you know in depth like that just like what's up in passing and shit like that but I've been vocal about the you know, the the whole situation the last two years I've said some things that Cole probably deemed a little disrespectful and too far But it's never my intent to disrespect anybody definitely not disrespecting somebody. I don't know that's corny. I'm I'm too old for that But yeah, I got I got I got I got things that I would like to say to Cole's face Just so he understands That I'm not a guy that would just talk shit and and and wouldn't like I you know I think that me and Cole I think Cole would actually benefit from having a nigga like me and his phone and in his ear And but there's also a world where um, Cole doesn't think about or give a single fuck about any opinion that's been said on this podcast It's having a great time with his wife and kids. He's doing just fine and would much rather sit down with Just fine legendary Carmelo Anthony safe safe safe sit down then young white flag Yeah, just come highlight some guys that may have some pushback Yeah, I don't talk to don't talk to mellow about the jazz that I think came I think mellow and cash. I don't I don't know if a pushback, but cam. I think is gonna ask some real questions I would hope so because cam is obviously he's a rapper too and he understands that world more than Carmelo and cash would but um longest rollout ever for a podcast uh episode milk it On you cam was about to go to court for that interview milk that motherfucker Hey cam if I'm you I roll less shit out another week You treat that she like the paradise episodes fuck that kick cam announced it like on valentine's yeah fuck that roll that shit out We gonna roll this shit out. This is the longest rollout. You had to fall off. I got the roll out Yeah, we gonna roll this shit all the way out. Do you think they paused at all with Because I really thought that it was coming out on revolt tv obviously, but also on youtube on tuesday Do you think the jay-z interview had them go? You know what just let them have the day? Nah, okay, I think I think it's enough space for both of those to be out at the same time Yeah, the jay interview wasn't that long too. It was it was a you know, it was a good interview. Yeah, but it was short. Um obviously the cam and and and cold uh episode to be a longer than jay's gq uh episode um, there was a clip from 7 p.m. in brooklyn where Cole cleared up uh The brown walking around with a fall off the vinyl Which is fucked up because once Cole explained it. I was like, oh, yeah, that's that makes all the sense of the world and that's awesome But if we've known bronze track record I don't think it's crazy for someone on the internet to see Him walking around just with a fall off vinyl and be like this is performative. Yeah, this is this is what are we doing? That's wrong. That's not part of your fit. No, you know, that's not your bag That definitely feels performative if you see brawn walking around with a jay colvin. It's like all right, though Because you could have put that in a bag Like you know, say you could have put that in something like nobody had to know you had a vinyl in your hand like And even playing that he gave I'm not sure. Okay, because if he played you definitely could have put that in your bag Yeah, you know, I mean like oh shit. I left this on the seat and you just walking into the room But no, I think that's cool that that that brown met with um Cole's kids because they're huge lebron fans and that's dope man. That's that shit man. That's dad That's the dad's you know, they're doing doing something special for the kids man. There's nothing wrong with that But Based off lebron's track record and in history that definitely did they thought they caught lebron another performative moment like i fan The vinyl you walking around with the vinyl and we got you I could see ron having a vinyl player and all his vinyls like in his locker, but then you realize all the plastic is still on them Now you're not playing Having a vinyl player in the locker room was crazy It's like i fan. I I okay enough is fucking enough bro like we get it Nah, some of these new vinyl players are gonna have great bluetooth and great speakers Man, we don't need all of that. We don't need a vinyl just hit play. Yeah, we don't need a vinyl player in the locker room cut it out um I'm sorry. We dragged this this long with more Cole Drake and and beast up but honestly, I don't really know what y'all want us to do when everyone's doing press runs and finally speaking about something We've all been curious about when it came to their point of view And it's a world where you niggas is just making wack music that we don't want to talk about No, it's the yeet changing the game No, shout out yeet Me ain't gonna disrespect yeet. He's not here to disrespect you. No, he's young. We gotta give him a shot We gotta we gotta see what he does with his moment and shout out to zane low You know, I'd love you know zane and I have a great relationship great relationship the greatest of great um Well, I mean just quickly because i'm not here to hate on yeet. I just music's not for me He did say that he is the only one for of his peers, which I I don't know what he considers his peers He said that is pushing music forward or having a new sound or trying to add something Into the field which he very well, maybe right But that doesn't mean it's good You could be the only one trying to push the needle, but that doesn't mean I have to like it I like he's this but I would never be mad at someone that said yeah, he's pushing the needle, but I don't like it like Sometimes that's not as profound as it comes across even though zane's gonna make it sound like the most profound thing He's ever heard in his entire life. Mm-hmm sometimes The needle should just stay where is that because i'm cool We gotta see man I love all the artists that are featured on there. Oh, no for sure, but I've never heard a good album without many features But listen, I'm not yeet can pick beats Yeah, I'd like to hear a lot of those artists on on a yeet beat I want to like I'm looking for the next young artist to like Like I want I want to I want to like one of the the new younger artists like I want to define young though Like it's jid young anymore. It's jid now like in the middle not middle of the square But but like he's surpassed being a freshman more or less. Yeah. Yeah, like he's he's what? I'm not even saying by age wise though because Hip-hop is such a weird place where it's like a bunch of 16 year olds and then People that are 35 that are finally making it. Yeah, but like Gibbs hit his stride 15 years into his career. How old is yeet is young though, right? He's in his 20s. I would assume so. Yeah, like I'm talking about that. Oh, it sounds everything about him is young Yeah, I'm talking about guys like I want to like somebody like that I want to find the artist that I really like like that Where it's like one of the 20 whatever year olds that has a different energy different vibe different sound that I just be like You know what? I like this. I like this this this kid. I like him I mean, there's a lot like again, I think All the rappers that were in The on the radar new generation cypher. I think all of them are incredible and do make Good music, but are you saying on the level of somebody that would be in the yeet? Territory like all those guys haven't popped yet I'm I think a few of them are well on their way to It's just gonna take a few more years because they're going about at the lyrical route Which takes longer. Mm-hmm, but I'm with you. I don't have anyone in that space Like when uzi was a freshman, I was like, okay, not all this is for me But I fuck with what he's doing. I see the creativity and he's doing I fucked with some uzi stuff I don't know if I feel that way about anyone that would be like a yeet pier And maybe that's as far as that vibe Yeah, because that is the the newer vibe. Yeah, like of course, there's plenty of great young lyrical rappers I'm not one of those people that that doesn't think it's perfectly balanced right now But in that world, I'm with you. I haven't found one where Like I shouldn't like this, but this is fire. Yeah. Yeah I think the youngest artist the youngest rapper I might like is probably Kodak. How was Kodak now? 35 Can no way Kodak is 35 no fuck Kodak. He's still in his 20s. Okay. Yeah 35 about to say hell no No, but the way Kodak lives like No, no, he has he has he has years of experience Kodak is 50 Yeah, dog is like Yeah, Kodak now that's that's the old man right? Yeah, but as far as like the 20 something yo rappers like Kodak is probably like my favorite That I could think of that's probably still in their 20s that I'm like, I like this dude. I fuck with him heavy Yeah, probably Kodak because even like the the realm of like when 21 Savage came I love 21 Savage um And his his era had some shit that I was like, this is too young for me even though they're my age I don't know if I've had a 21 in like the last few years Obviously 21 is now in the middle of his career, but yeah the way I love 21 Savage. I haven't loved a new Rapper with a different sound that isn't typically like the boom that shit. I like in a very very long time. Yeah, but Kodak's up there Yeah, I mean, I listen the young boy shit. I'm starting to get into a little bit, but I wouldn't consider him young I think he's I think I'm so late obviously the young boy. Yeah, you're selling out fucking arenas like he's another one that I like Heming to me him and Kodak are like the guys that I'm like the young 20-something. Yo is one like I fuck with this Today's show is brought to you by our presenting sponsor hard rock bet Florida sportsbook and boy does mall have his daily dancing boots on for march madness I know a lot of your brackets may be messed up already I understand brackets I'm hosted a layup from the red storm when someone only has two points may have put you In a in a weird predicament, but you are not alone. Don't worry You can still call the next big upset and turn your picks around and make them a payday on hard rock bet More I've been doing fine. I don't about the rest of y'all. I'm cooked bracket is shot Well, you still you could still go on hard rock and figure out some some other bets for sure And you know those hard stopping zero on the clock moments now they pay hard rock bet is giving out 25 bonus bets Throughout the entire tournament if a team you bet to win or cover hits a buzzer beater Like my guys queens get the money somebody paid somebody got a big payday Absolutely If you haven't joined hard rock bet yet now is the time especially during the tournament So don't sit on the bench download the hard rock bet app today and let's get the party started Payable and bonus bets not a cash offer offered by the seminal tribe of florida in florida Offered by seminal hard rock digital llc in all of the states must be 21 plus and physically present in arizona, colorado florida illinois indiana michigan, new jersey, ohio, tennessee, o virginia to play terms and conditions apply concerned about gambling in florida You call 1833 play wise in indiana if you or someone, you know has a gambling problem once help call 1809 with it gambling problem called 1800 gambler arizona, colorado, illinois, michigan, new jersey, ohio, tennessee and vigenia Do you think uh, you think ebro slipped up? but what Do you think ebro had a you know, you don't fucked up right moment? What do you do? He was he was on his show Shout out to to ebro rosenberg and and laura shout the peat He uh, he was he was discussing a lot of the pushback that that he gets From people in his drake hate um, and some of his coal critiquing and he basically said Why should i give a fuck how they feel they don't pay my bills? And if we're being real the only one out of the big three That has supported my show and paid my bills wiskendrick lemar oh ebro We got him We got him. You know you guys didn't we got him. Oh my god. I saw ebro, they got your ass He said that He did say pay my bills Here let let let's get the exact and he said pay my bills Thank you All right, well, that's what i'm saying is you end up being so and me too i'm sure but even you you see more like the the captain of it of That you could someone could say that is what happened. Yeah, because you've been critical about drake before Yeah, but what i'm saying is i was critical about drake before the beef So if you're if you're doing that you ain't been watching my show Oh, so you mean it's different because you're not someone who stayed quiet and was like oh, i got a reason It's like no i've been critical about missteps. You've had here's a giant misstep and i'm critical again Yeah, i would hope that he would see the difference that like There are actually there are people who actually want to drake to do better in that and hope that By the way, i like all these guys musically artistically Some are like more than others i'm really loving what coles doing right now But i don't give a goddamn Like we respond to things on the fly bro like it's happening right now. You did xyz like What are you supposed to do? Yeah, and drake's criticism came out of how he was acting each time and if we're keeping it a bean The only person that supported my show and me is kindred lemar So like if we talk about how we pay our bills Y'all ain't been up here supporting me none of y'all kendrick has I don't think anyone was talking about that specifically, but i'm just saying like why would i care how they feel about how i feel You i'm commenting on what you're doing. Well, i don't give a crap right? Well, what's the obligation of i have no obligation I know and people act as if it's like we have but it's not critical journalism then you bro. I don't know You know that's you know, that's not what he i don't know I'm i have ovo algorithm and you guys thought you got him I know what he's trying to say i know peyola when i hear it I know peyola. You don't know peyola like i know peyola That's the problem. You know, that's what they they know they accuse you of that They accuse me of peyola What i need to see tax returns on you and on ebro because i gotta see if td e's paying better OVO's paying better accuse me. I'm gonna Peach i'm gonna wait I'm gonna audit mall because i need to see hold on there's been ovo peyola in here because now i found out that there's kedrick Payola with ebro and apple I want my ovo check. Hold on yo peach. I'ma look you guys they accuse me of peyola That's crazy. I'm calling loyan tonight. Does mall have some separate account that he's he's funneling What's the canadian dollar called Whatever tim horton bucky got i know mall has a separate all-shore account with ovo and i need to see it Because now i know that ebro's getting paid. Damn they think i'm gonna pay ola. That's crazy Not ebro. They didn't catch ebro the way they think they did what he is saying. I don't have an incentive or Loyalty to anybody because no one is here to pay My bills i only have a responsibility to those people But you are now kind of admitting that if somebody did that you'd have an incentive to be nicer to them Which to rosinberg's point is like well, that's not journalism You can't now if someone Fucks with you and comes up here now you do not criticize them whatsoever you have to be somewhat objective and even if you're not a journalist We should still be somewhat objective. Yeah, we laugh at but him saying that Kendrick is the only one that has supported him That's kind of peyola as well It's made that man wires may not have been sent out Yeah, it's social peyola. It's it's like, okay You know what i mean like i he came up here supported you So that means that now like that's your man's you rolling you ain't you know, I wish oh i wish I wish the perception of this podcast was not that we were on ovio's payroll or were some drake dick riders Because sometimes facts are facts Ebro if drake didn't exist radio would have died way quicker than it did Yes drake has supported you in ways you have no fucking idea Radio caught another 10 year ronnie. Oh my god, man talk about it brother talk about it Talk about no drake has has not uh, well, he has been up at hot 97 He was up there with flex and syphon. He's been up there before then there was a back and forth with high and You know drake drake even disin hot on the maddest square garden stages, which to me is kind of a form Of support to some degree support But no you can't work in radio and say drake's never supported you Yeah, come on. It's impossible. Yeah, that's that doesn't even make sense But I understand what you know, and I know this is more and no like but here's the thing though Yo, ebro if kindra gets your god, that's your man. That's cool, too Like we got to get to that point where niggas understand. Yo, that's my man like I that's my god I fuck with him on a different level. We have a different relationship Like I think that that's okay to admit as well. Like I understand you can still be you know like Jay is like my big brother. That's family. You know I'm saying like But if jay says something that I don't agree with I'm gonna like nah, I don't agree with that big bro Like that was to me, uh But no, it's not a disrespect thing. I would this of course I would never disobey But this is like you can agree you can disagree with people that Support you and that you have a different relationship where you have a Closer bond and connection with like that's okay like for people to say that but you can also still be you know Like yo, nah, I don't just I disagree with that move. I disagree with what you said there. That's all I mean, let me not be a hypocrite. Jay if you want to come up here. I'll agree with everything that you say See you can't see peola We got him peach. We got him. We got him. You were saying there was a loser Rock nation this this this relationship. I want to see the account now. I want to see the account I've had real-life conversations with The gold parties every year. I've had healthy debates with hope. I never see you when the gold party happens. Like what's going? What's going on? I saw your brother suited and booted I Yeah, but I didn't see you I couldn't even But I didn't see you Is what I'm saying and it's been of course not loser rock nation ties with you before like I'm just saying Listen, man, sometimes behind the scenes there's audits Why why you think jay you got to sell do say now after after our audit Oh, man, yeah, no after what we split with the jail a chart of kibbutch I don't think I'll ever be friends with Oh, I didn't even do that mafia piece the jail like rock nation Yo, no, I gotta see the no I gotta see the papers. I gotta see the count wait first of all Look man, nothing changes. Look peds. I'm asking for a count and once again. I need the counting rory I need to see it see this will never be used in clips on the internet I have always been very forthcoming of my bias with jay-z. I've also been critical of jay-z But I'm also biased because he's my favorite and yes at one point we had a working relationship I've always said that but like today I disagreed with the aftershadowing said No, but it's not my fault that I just agree a lot of times with what jay-z does I'll put it. I'll also not my fault jay is family. I'm never I'm never going to fuck whatever you niggas just talk about on the internet That's my family and it ain't even about bias. That's family niggas. So fuck. Yeah. Yeah, I'm letting it be no. Yeah, it is what it is No, but if we don't get tickets, I'm gonna run We're rent you going on Like I don't know blueprint extra in it extra in it sold out rory. Look you had another shot to get tickets Jay put extra in and in is out for you and you still didn't get your tickets if I don't If I don't get tickets mom coming here and saying blueprints overrated But you you said it before you said it before the concert No, if I if I get tickets it's The greatest album of all time. Okay, but if not You come in can you imagine overcoming a release on 9 11? Like never forget Never forget. We will never forget Does he bring out fad just to do his street dreams album just in solidarity? No, that's a rough day. That's not gonna happen. That must have been tough. I mean outside of 9 11. I want to make that clear That must be the rough. There were other things that happened that day that made that day rough rory. No, I think fad was focused on something Why why do you think dev jam would want to put out both those albums together? I mean they didn't anticipate what was about to happen. No, no, no, no, well If you listen If we not gonna do if you can't do that If I if I start No, just uh, I don't maybe because when Like record labels were doing Those types of things I only had like money for one CD whereas like streaming now I can listen to to everything if it comes out on the same day I guess I can see it from the point of view of like if you're going to cd store Let's have everything there that we could but Oh for like younger fans now Whether I had the money or my mom was gonna buy me a cd We weren't going there for a bunch of cds. You picking blueprint or fat like that. You got to pick it Like that's what Shit, even with volume three and there was x I had to do that like my mom was like, we'll pick one I was like, but I love party up. I loved getting that type of music back then though Going to verge and megastore standing and listening to the album with the headphones on While the homies just walking around you on track six Like now this shit hard. I'm about to buy this. Yeah, that was such an experience. Your man's already broke the plastic shit Yeah, oh come on man those those those those the days peach We're those the days you know we used to take actual exacto knives and Cut the shit and take just the disc out Yeah, like that was always the disc. We don't need to that's why I love cd booklets because a lot of the CDs that I have Have a statue of limitations, I guess I don't think they're gonna come and find me. No virgin shut down. Okay. Um Yeah, we would that's why we didn't have a cd. Okay, we would just cut the shit and take the disc out That was the easiest way to get music. Yeah, for sure. And then everyone burns it. Mm-hmm Those were fun days. Um great times Well, yes, mall mall will never critique jz and he probably will never come up here, but They don't know we're gonna get the j interview in front of Yankee Stadium with Jerome Jerome They're not ready for that They're not ready for that It would be fun just to ride the train back and forth do the whole up and down. Yeah, it'd be fun. Yeah You getting us j in front of Yankee Stadium and drake in front of the cn tower Oh, we're gonna go to the top of the list. Come on, man Who else but us can do that? Oh, we I mean we definitely um, I'm honored for every time we've been on the media list of of being 13 and the nine and and just Listen, man As the days go by I just see us going lower and lower like Frazier's gotta be Frazier's gotta be number two Oh, after one day shout out to Frazier. He's a great journalist. I want to make that very clear shout out to Frazier Uh, yeah, nadeska out of here like yeah, we we just keep The pegs just keep getting lower every time everyone gets an a-list interview in one week Because cam gotta be there now too If you what if he wasn't already I didn't memorize the list but Yeah, for sure, but they just do a lot of sport stuff. That's where I think maybe they wouldn't have been on the list before But I think anyone that gets a jaco interview you're automatically on the top 20 media list Yeah, mallow will be up there As he should yeah, yeah As he should with that said mall has his dancing shoes on we are we are still i'm getting busy in these we we We are knee knee deep in the bracket game right now. Oh, man Um, my bracket is at 66.8 percent right now, which isn't great, but with the spreads. I've been doing okay on on hard rock bet The spreads have been nicer to me than than the winds here. Even I'm 66. I've done all right on hard rock, right? We have like a cool Like bracket pool as well with some of our patreon and discord i'm getting smoked Yeah, so some of our our discord people are smoking mall money bag mall is currently ranked seventh um In our pool of shit. I don't even know how many are here 10 maybe Um, I'm doing okay at four, but we should have never let tray into this. That was the stupidest idea I ever had I was uh, let someone text tray and adam. He got arizona winning roll right? I have arizona winning it all as well On my bracket you have houston winning the entire thing. Um I mean i've houston in my final four But you if houston wins you can make a run up these charts. Yeah, there's there's there's still hope I'm not out. I'm not out of it. I'm more in them. It's it's I need a miracle, but yeah, I still got some life. I still got some life left. Um while we are recording this um Listen, man one of one of the biggest games March 27th that i'm paying attention to Should I speak from my heart and then also speak from my hard rock heart? Both okay, I think both are important Both are aligned. Mm-hmm, but not aligned to my bracket duke versus st. John's. I have duke beating st. John's On my bracket On my bracket. I have duke beating st. John's. I don't know man, but I will be rooting for st. John's and I'm betting on st. John's St. John's is getting six and a half right now I think duke's gonna win, but I don't think they're they're gonna win by seven I think that's gonna be an extremely close game. I'm definitely taking st. John's Plus six and a half like for sure That's kind of like disrespectful. I not to say Duke isn't good, but I don't think duke is is six and a half better than the run st. John's is on right now Yeah, I think the smart bet with that is cool. We've got duke wins. They definitely not winning by seven I don't know. It's gonna be a good game, but yeah, I don't know about seven though So you might be safe I'm going st. John's with that for sure But it conflicts because on my bracket. I have duke one, but either way Either way, you might you might you might come off victorious. I just want st. John's I just want to see st. John's go just play good I was trying to be logical in my bracket, but logically on the betting side. Yeah, I'm taking that six and a half I'm not mad at that Yukon versus michigan state is probably the other one that's That I've been debating in in in my my betting group chats Huskies are favorited by one and a half That's that's the risky bet which which side are you taking? I think I'm taking you come I'm taking that But what if they only win by one Because there's a high chance that that could happen especially with this tournament has been nothing but fucking buzzer beaters You right There's been layoffs of someone that didn't play the whole game Only basket that mattered Yeah, I like I like you come for for one and a half though. Okay taking that I think I might be on your side with that I think you kind of is gonna win. Mm-hmm, but I think it might only be by one point I'm still gonna go you come yeah, I'm taking that that bet for sure, but anyone that is betting um Hard rock bet that's our guys. We've uh, we've been doing okay on on that side. We also have our label bracket Have you have you take the look the look at that more? No, I didn't I didn't look at that yet, but the first round is over right first round is over Shout out to um to everybody that that did participate in the first round We can run through this really quick for those that are just tuning in maybe didn't hear a few episodes ago We put together a march madness style bracket with each rap label Um, and it was mad about some of those some of some of those rankings. Yeah, I definitely got some got some flak Um, but then there was also people DM and me that I just don't think they understand how brackets work Of course, they know they were like, why would you guys ever put death row against dreamville? Like that's so unfair. I'm like, that's how brackets work The number one C is gonna go against the the worst seed. Yeah, that's how it works, but we can run through this quickly. Um first round Death row dreamville not really a surprise there death row cleans up qc versus tommy boy Qc with I didn't know if that one was gonna go the way I thought. Mm-hmm. I don't know if qc gets the same respect that I have for them, but Maybe people are just unfamiliar with tommy boy. Yeah, for sure. I was thinking maybe there'd be an upset there. There wasn't Rough riders g-unit man. Fuck you Rough riders with the clear win Wasn't even close It was a blowout Uh shady aftermath at a two seed against ovo uh aftermath shady wins that oh come on come on Was it a blowout? It was nicky nicky minaj versus uh roi woods. Yeah. Oh my god. It was a nail biter. Oh my god um Getting to the lower bracket here cash money versus risotta cash money Uh rap a lot versus no limit They went no limit man. Fuck y'all I Okay, I'm not saying no limits not incredible. Yeah, I know I go go through rap a lot's catalog. Yeah Scarface alone I mean, they don't they don't respect the elders man. That's the problem. It's the problem with these youngsters These youngsters Everybody loves see murta Murta ink versus cmg um, that was a tough one for cmg Bad matchup because I think cmg could have went far on this tournament But it's tough when you're going against murder ink in the first round. Mm-hmm, but that's a three seed to a six seed Sorry cmg You should be here next year. Yeah They got they got it's a lot of fresh. They got a lot of people in the transfer portal, man The guys are people in the portal don't worry about it Glow glow world is still young. Yeah, she's not ready to go to the end. She'll be back uh so so deaf um Sorry our intern that was born in uh 2017 put so so records and they still won against ysl Not sure who's on that roster, but they still won. That's tough. If I'm ysl. I'm mad that's so so be me. Yeah Um loud records versus dtp kind of knew where that one was gonna go swish a house versus cold chillin swish house Y'all are fucking absolutely insane cold chillin could have made it to the final four um good music versus ruthless Good music won. I guess I get it Bad boy versus hypnotized mind bad boy. Obviously there tde versus rough house tde Uptown records versus mmg. I thought y'all were gonna go mmg on this. I really did. I hell. No, no I don't think we in this room. Oh, okay. Okay. I did think people might pick mmg over that raucous versus grand hustle grand hustle wins I Grand hustle be raucous. All right that that might be the biggest upset. Oh, that's the upset bracket Buster that's got a bracket buster. That was a bracket buster That's davidson. That's like Iggy is is stef curry Like how did how did davidson get there? Iggy is stef who did uh, who did on jamir nelson and uh Lebron's mom's ex play for again st. Bonaventure St. Joe's st. Joe's st. Bonaventure No, st. Bonny's has done some damage in bracket busting before Yeah, so st. Joe's that's all right grand hustles definitely st. Joe's in this because that's nuts uh, rock of hella verse 10 17 I mean, yeah, that's where that goes so We don't have to go through the next matchups with every single one, but Let's let's pick a few Where we want to make some predictions Rough riders versus aftermath is a two and three seed That's the next matchup. Mm-hmm rough rise aftermath oof I'm I'm still going aftermath when you have the run of m&m and you have the run of 50 cent alone Yeah That pains me, but Yeah, gotta go aftermath there I you know what? Where you could make an argument which would be a good of like getting one and a half points It would be the third person on the roster that would really define that because all right X had an insane run not to m&m's just off sheer longevity But x had a crazy run that could you could debate against 50s with his first three albums versus x's first three albums Like you could make a case Do you put eve against obi trice at that point because now i'm starting to lean more on rough riders If you get deeper into the bench because the locks only had we are the streets which to me is a classic but It wasn't their money power respect. Mm-hmm where they had insane hit records, but they had rider dive visual on there Got the locks once you go down the bench Rough riders may beat aftermath Yes, can m&m 50 carry the whole yeah squad. Yeah Like when once you get to bizarre I think I think even I think eve is clearing up bizarre For sure For sure that matchup. Yeah for sure I had aftermath that as a two seed myself. I think rough riders could could upset them That could be close. Yeah, that's gonna be a close. That might be the closest matchup. Yeah Cash money no limit. I mean we saw that versus already, but that did not include wane nicky and uh trach so I don't know. I just don't think yeah, come on. We ain't gotta do anyone in this side of the bra I'm sorry guys that you had to even go against cash money. Yeah. Um so so deaf murder ink um I don't know where I land on that I think we're going so so deaf It had a much longer run. Yeah Yeah, I think I would probably have to land on so so deaf unfortunately Like I love charlie baltimore, but again once you get Down the bench and then your starters get tired Sorry makes himself. Yeah, you get different. I don't I don't know you get different. Um, But yeah, you can now vote for the next round Shout out to everyone that did participate in this and I love all the messages and debates Of how stupid you think we are with where these rankings are but it's it's in y'all hands now. Yeah You know if they take grand hustle like What was the dude that did the game stop? insider trading thing Yeah, roaring if y'all roaring kitty grand hustle to the to the final four, I wouldn't be so fucking mad Who's them? Who's grand hustle next matchup? against rocker fella Hell nah, but you have to understand the the the power is in the people's hands That's why game stop. They were able to change the stock We can't be wall street and be like now we got to change the rules again The people get behind grand hustle people are stupid. They ain't that stupid People are stupid now. I'm with you on that. They ain't that stupid Rocker fella to the finals Now they I think they might champion around grand hustle to make a point because then it's show that we have the power Rocker fella wins this round. It would be against uptown or tde Oh, yeah, rock fella walking they walking walking they walking to the finals between uptown and tde. That's that's a tough matchup I think tde might slightly Beat them but again, that's that that could go either way with me and I wouldn't think it was crazy I don't know if rocker fellas just walking through tde or uptown records just walking Walking walk. You have you have Kanye West Dog walk you've come here West Man, talk about how do we talk about Kanye West? What are you talking about right now? It's a dog walk, bro. All right, isaibre shower vs. uh, amil Don't see Take your pick see how see how fast you take your pick man. Come on, man. Don't do that. We're not doing that Rocker fella to the final four Yeah, I think so as well, but this has been fun so far and I love seeing who who people are voting for It's been a really cool patreon discord type thing Um, pay attention to our socials. The links are there um, and you can vote and again shout out to everyone that has Been voting and shout out to hard rock. Um, maybe one day we can convince hard rock to add this to their You know their dashboard The label and we can start really betting on label labels label. Shit No, I think this brag has done a lot of good for artists as well MMG got knocked out of the first round and now meek is doing ai Found a new path What do you mean? He's doing ai. He's he's he's doing ai. He's like, yo, I got ai now Like he's using ai. Yeah for what? Uh, I mean things that I actually think are great, but they're gonna clown me because like everybody got chat gbt uh You said like what he says like recover all business controls tracking royalties locating money Finding red flags planning organizing years of information Creating a family office structure business navigation. I've been waiting my whole life for tools like this now. I Love to laugh at meek's weeks, but I feel him I would just love to see like what do you think the meek in chat gbt conversation? Like I want to sneak peek Add me to the group chat. I mean I gotta see what they be saying of meek and what he'd be saying back Listen, I love the fact that meek is trying to jump into the tech space and do things on the business side. I that's We we love that But can we keep it on brand and let me actually tweet? Like we know meek didn't tweet that There's no grammatical errors There's no run-offs like come on the let me meet the spacing that he usually has like come on, bro Like keep it on brand but don't do that. It's obvious that while he was talking to ai about these things. He said hey Can you forward tweet for me about what we're doing together? Yeah, but even that's not a ai ai didn't oh no, I think ai told him all those words He just put dots in between them No, that's somebody got meek phones. They got his account. They got his twitter account They're trying to clean up. They're trying to clean up meek's tweets. Like don't do that clean up meek's Now they're trying to do it. That's what i'm saying. Let me see years later. Let me get his shit off, man That's who that's the that's the magic in it. Let meek tweet his own shit. That's the magic in meek's tweets, man Listen, man. He said uh He truly believes in this like he can't code But he knows how to create things that last forever empower the creation to the masses I do that with rap all the time if I could deliver a new software to my supporters or the masses is insane I used to pray for times like this See you see that's tajibu see like come on man or whatever one he's trying to promote right now. Yeah, claudia or whatever the fuck it's called claudia Claudia claudia or teas like yeah one of those those ai programs keep the meek tweets going man Let me tweet free meek tweets Why meek doesn't have a coffee table book of his Like that's something I would buy 100 for like 300 bucks. I would buy that meek's greatest tweets. What yeah that coffee table book You just put that in the office like you just gave him that Listen, man, we could use ai to figure out how to monetize it and like where to find the coffee table books Yeah, yes, that's us. That's me and meek. I ain't mad at that. How am I already? Well, I'm a silent investor, but how am I already bringing more to the table with meek and mall than you Meek and wall I forgot Oh, yeah, yeah, p. Just saying there there was somebody that Created ai music and an ai artist and bodied it with ai and made you know like millions of dollars which I mean we already knew I'm not mad at that. I was tempted to give that gentleman Oh, no, he's fucked. Yeah, you know, he's I mean back to the roaring kitty shit like somebody found a loophole to disrupt the system of the people that create the system So while it's fair like these rules were never here before why would why would I be punished? Or something that was never regulated just because you were too stupid to realize that we had the power to do this But now you have the ability to change it and no one can do it and now I'm you know, I owe you 10.8 million I think it was it was something fucking crazy And it was like wait, this wasn't the rules. Why would I owe you this shit back? Same with the roaring kitty thing with with game stop like Y'all are mad that we found a loophole in y'all rules. Yeah, I'm just not willing to play with my freedom for a loophole though That was never that guy We know the loophole is there, but is it is it worth worth the risk though? sometimes If you still got that money though, if you give it back to them, you good, right? If I'm making 10.8 million with the ars, I'm going nuts. You won't know I'm spending a lot of that. I don't I didn't hold Taylor who see my numbers over here But that's when you get a little too greedy, man Like sometimes not every time 92 bricks is too much. Sometimes you have to fall back Just chill like if you make enough if if you quietly making 100,000 of mailbox money because you found out how to Just quietly just chill. Don't go for the gusto like clearly if somebody is making 10.8 of streaming music Someone's going to notice that of like wait, we pay Taylor this Yeah, you made it hot you made it hot Because there was plenty of people that were doing this with botting farms before and yeah, it's kind of nuts That it took them this long to do it, but I do feel them like you have to regulate Of course you that ai shit. I'm happy for that trailblazer, but now let's fix that Yeah, because that it fucks with the market for artists that are putting music out now. So But I mean salute me you found a way Yeah, I found a way now. Enjoy that. Uh that last cell on on tier three Because that's what you'll be at Imagine imagine being in the day room trying to explain why you're here. Yeah I ran it up. All right, just somebody that's been in jail for 20 years that has no idea what Spotify They don't know what what ai is they like I haven't seen it still playing like did they allow like Spotify and stuff on on the prison tablets probably right? Oh, yeah, I think you get music on the tablets. Yeah, I think so that would scare me Don't don't let us like certain inmates get drill music. Mm-hmm Be fucking riots every day playing that. Um, are you gonna bid on the Seattle and Las Vegas NBA teams? No, oh, okay. Seattle needs a team though for sure. They do. Yeah, they definitely need a team Vegas That's a whole another conversation can only imagine what that team is gonna look like I give it I give it 15 years all the teams that are either going to Vegas or they're gonna start in Vegas are gonna be the conglomerate They'll be the new Celtics Laker like the They're gonna make sure all the Vegas teams are the best There's no taxes living in Nevada, right? Yeah, well, there's I mean there's some taxes. It's just not as crazy. Well, not Not like not like California, right? But yeah, I can see Vegas becoming Just because it's everyone's investing obviously in Gambling and everything. Yeah, that's why don't we make all the sports teams here? Yeah, uh, are you gonna go to 50 cents? Planet Hollywood Where you can dine with the celebs I No, I don't think so or you don't think I'll be pulling up to that. I'm just trying to give you updates on the news That's that's all yeah, no Planet how like the old planet Hollywood they put that as like the the avi for um The article but they're yeah like 50 cents opening some shit For regular people It is planted all the way but they didn't put that in the article. They just had the photo of planet Hollywood um, yeah, apparently You know, regular people will be able to be in the same place where they're gonna pace the leps to just hang out More or less. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if I want to be a part of that Sounds like a circus I mean, I don't think we'll be high on any lists of of like demand But I would take a check to just stand in Times Square Planet Hollywood and be like, yo, what's up? You get you you ready to sell you so I have a daughter that's in uh, daycare five days a week. Okay So 50 I'm available to be sold sold for sale sold for sale Everything is for sale. Well, just have been a great conversation. Hopefully we won't be a band from Yankee stadium. Yeah, I think we're fine and for everyone that stays this long into the episodes, please wish Uh, demares a happy birthday today. Yes, sir. Happy birthday. Baby. Baby. Baby. Baby. Baby. Baby turns 27 today. So I Baby Give her a happy birthday. Do you have your um, your like Birthday text message ready for midnight for demares. Yeah, um Yeah, I do Um, it starts something like happy birthday Continue health and blessings. If your ass is not back in the studio on monday, you no longer work here Something like that. I'm just I'm just spitballing right now. I don't I'm just spitballing a week off. Yeah, the timing was so perfect with the fucking flights and spitballing I'm just spitballing. I saw because it was cool. You want to get your birthday off? I'm never never mad at that But then somehow you finagled the whole week off. Yeah, it's all good A lot of weeks off in a minute I I know I know for a fact Everyone in this room has worked on their birthday and this is what the fucking podcast man man Just because we put a balloon in the office doesn't make our our birthdays better when we record it like what the fuck? That's all right, though. We got something for you And that's that's why men and women are so much different like would peed worked on his birthday I remember demaris was like, well, let's go get him a cake. I'm like, he's working on his birthday Like a cake is not gonna pees doesn't know but men don't want to see a fucking cake on their birthdays No, one of them won't want to change out of here anything if you get a balloon That says happy birthday like that's not going to change a man working on his birthday's day at all It's actually gonna remind him why the fuck am I here on my birthday exactly more depression Just want to give us depression calories and high blood pressure with cake and shit like get the fuck out of here But happy birthday baby d. Hopefully she's somewhere having fun enjoying herself and hopefully she'll have a job next week Did she make it back state I don't even know she's in new york don't know where demaris is I don't know where demaris is in the water. I haven't heard from her She flew out of la guardia this morning How'd she get to la guardia? Yeah Who knows Who knows man? Who knows who fucking knows but wherever she is? Hopefully baby d. You're safe and enjoying yourself. Yes, and everybody else that's listening Hopefully you are safe somewhere enjoying yourself until next time see you saturday be safe Be blessed. I'm that nigga. He's just ginger. Peace This is an iHeart podcast Guaranteed human