#4644 Whole Llama Love

Hi, I'm Genevieve Telford Warren. Can you describe for the ladies and gentlemen of the jury what it is that you do for a living, Ms. Telford Warren? Sure. I am a social media brand ambassador for myself, for my own account, and for a third party account as well, which belongs to my dog, who's a pet, who I do also brand negotiation deals for him as well. And I do DJing also for party and events and corporate and personal and public. And I do also certified, I'm a lash tech also, but I haven't really done that in a while, but I'm still certified to do it. And I also just do negotiating brand deals for my own account as well and commercial acting as well, as well as modeling and some acting as well. That's great. TVTL! Started from the bottom, now we're here. Started from the bottom, now the whole team here. Six foot, seven foot, eight foot bunch. Young Money Militia and I am the commissioner. Oh, boy. Who kept putting twizzlers in the fridge? I told, is it Sarah? Crystal. Crystal, yes. She likes them cold. OK, well, Crystal, you and I are going to have another twizzler talk. I'm sorry, but when I hear an undeserved compliment, it makes my ears want to throw up. Oh, your ears are always throwing up about something. Wait, what? So what was the exact question? Don't worry about it. I'll move on. It's all fine. You're both little troublemakers. You're both huge in Japan. You probably have a lot to talk about. Go! Keep things light. Don't bring up your divorce. Well, hello, everybody, and welcome to a brand new edition of TBTL. This is, of course, the show that's too beautiful to live. Everybody calls it garbage. Most people call it a problem. We call it our challenge. My name is Andrew Walsh, hanging out with you today, and in a weird headspace. Because I got a note early this morning from my cobro, Luke Burbank, telling me that he is under the weather today. He says he's so sick, he barely has a voice. Luke does not usually take sick days, so I believe him. Should I, considering that it's coming off the end of a sports weekend in which Luke and I were out there in the streets celebrating? I mean, in the street, Maplewood. I think we're in Maplewood celebrating together. Maple Leaf. Maple Leaf. Oh, by the way, we... Hello. We should never, ever turn on the guest mics before we are ready to introduce... Andrew, I cannot allow a slight misspeak to go unremarked upon. You know that. No, this is good. Here's the deal. Usually, when I'm hosting the show without Luke, I try to put together kind of a little bit of a planned intro with drops and everything. But today, I got so excited producing the show you're about to hear. I've been in the studio cutting tape, adding my voice to tape in ways you guys are gonna find exciting and potentially tingly. But because of that, I'm going into the show, into this intro, not knowing what I'm going to say. I must... Genevieve, can you back me up? Yeah. My scatterbrain. Your scatterbrain, yeah. Your eyes have that sort of deer in the head lights look like anything could come out of your mouth. That's right. It's anyone's guess, including you. So let's try to get some of the important stuff out of the way. My name is Andrew Walsh. I don't go to court. I don't get traffic tickets. I'm a good boy, and that's not my arena. My name is Andrew Walsh. You're listening to TBTL. Luke is out. Genevieve is in... Do you have any idea who I am? I'm a verified Yelp complainer. Hey, Genevieve. Welcome to the show. Hi, Andrew. What a mess right off the bat. But I think we got... Did we take care of everything we need to take care of? You're the expert. I don't know. As far as the intro. Do people know who you are? I think so. You're my life partner. You're the apple of my eye. Co-homeowner. A co-host on After These Messages. I think we said that. That's about it. Co-cat owner. Yeah, we do have a cat together. Future co-dog owners, but we don't have a dog picked out. What a resume. That's just the plan. I'm a lash tech. A lash tech, of course. So, Veeves, let's just jump in right here and talk about what we're going to do today on the show. I want to hear what you've been up to. You're always working on some projects. We're going to hear about that. But then, after we get those niceties out of the way. I'll tell you what I've been up to. You've been upstairs in your sewing room the past two days. I've been down here in my studio with my VCR the past two days. We'll trade some notes about what we've both been working on. But then, the reason everything is so scattered today at the top of the show is because the second half of the show is amazing. I've put together a quiz. Yeah, always back load. That's what they say. You want to just totally isolate the listeners at the beginning. Make them feel like they... Break them down. Break them down. Make them beg for decent content. Sure. Then you come in the back half and you're like, listen, this is what we could do if we try. That's what we're going to do. This is your reward for eating your vegetables. That's why they put dessert at the end of the meal. That's right. I have a bunch of tape that I pulled from movies. A very specific kind of movie that you and I like. I describe these as movies that Genevieve and Andrew like to watch while playing Gin Rummy. I don't know if the rest of the world describes them that way. You know what I mean? They're no handy acronym for that. They tend to be 90s, sometimes 80s and 90s movies that we've seen before. They've worn a bit of a groove into our brains and spirits. It's like a groove. It's like a groove. Exactly. I think it's going to be a pretty easy quiz. But there are some audio elements that I worked too hard on that I'm going to play for you. We'll get to that in a little bit. First though, the nice cities. What have you been working on up in that sewing room of yours? I finished minutes before we started recording. I finished a really cute little black mini dress that I made. There's this great store for crafters in Seattle. I want to recommend it. It's called Recreative. Seattle Recreative. Oh, yeah. They have two locations. The one I go to is in Greenwood. It's a teeny little hole in the wall store, but they kind of absorb crafting. Like free donated craft materials that people don't need anymore. Maybe they'll accept them. I mean, they have a whole section of just, I think, paper clips in the back, but they wouldn't accept my box full of expensive leftover beads. Well, they said they would think about it if you were willing to come in and be grilled about it. They said I had to make an appointment for a donation and they would go through it and they seemed very uninterested in having me come. Well, all I can tell you is that when I go there, it is especially in a post-Joanne universe, they have fabric remnants and sometimes it's nothing special, but once in a while you will find such a treasure there. And I found one such treasure. I found two yards of really high quality black wool, like kind of suiting weight wool, a little heavier maybe, and it was perfect for like a really cute, like, mod, like little mini dress. And so I got a pattern from Etsy, I think, and I spent the whole holiday weekend, which I am still on, so I'm volunteering my time here. Yes, thank you, by the way. It is a holiday too. Another reason we could be a little suspicious of Luke's motives today. I'm so sick. Well, he believes in service and the legacy of Dr. King. That's true. That is true. Today is not a holiday for him. Today is a day of service, really. So anyway, I've been spending- He's servicing his hangover. I'm just joking. I'm just joking. Luke never, very rarely takes time off. But I spent the last two days cutting and measuring and remembering how to do invisible zippers, which is just a nightmare, but it was all worth it because today I finished this adorable little black wool mini dress that I'm wearing with knee-high boots. Very sick to use. It was very cute. You came in here and you did a little spin for me. Yeah. I look good. So I'm excited. So you did your patterns, you just go on Etsy, and you buy them? Yeah, there's a lot of different ways to get patterns. I belong to Seamwork, which is a sewing community. I think I pay a fee every year for that. I can get some free patterns there, but I also will just go on Etsy and put in what it is that I want, and usually you can find what you want. And the cheapest way to get patterns is they send you a PDF file. You print it on your own, then you cut up all the paper and glue it together, which in itself is an arts and crafts project that I enjoy. It's no skin off my nose to be gluing and pasting and cutting. That's half the fun. And you can do that while watching almost anything on television, except Tehran, which is very subtitle heavy. I'm far seas getting really good, but you do have to be able to watch that with your eyeballs. But yeah, anyway, so I cut out all these pieces. I cut out all my fabric. I remembered how to do invisible zippers, and the end result is a product that I'm really, really happy with. Nice. And it's done now? Totally done. You're just like very close to the end. No, it's 100 percent done. If you weren't done, I don't know if you would be in here, because there's something about a project like that when you get really near the end of something, just to put it down. You can't. I feel like this is something like my, let's call them hobbies. Let's be generous and call them hobbies. They're hobbies. My hobbies, but even like if I'm playing something like mine, well, I guess Minecraft maybe wouldn't fit into this one. But like when I'm doing something that's more digital in nature, but I get really obsessive compulsive about it. I'm like that. It's like, I can't put it down. That's why I end up staying up until three or four in the morning. You get into this different headspace. That's what I love about sewing and hobbies in general and crafting is that it turns off that part of your brain that's looking at the clock or thinking about the future. It's a way of being 100 percent in the present. And I think that's why I love hobbies and why I recommend, I pick up hobbies all the time. How many hobbies have I had in the 25 years we've been together? Well, sewing is different. I think I found it with sewing. Yeah. You've advanced further in your craft and you've stuck with it for a long time. I tried book binding. I left for a while. You did do book binding. I did book binding, but you know, I learned how to do book binding and then I was kind of like, well, they're sort of like not, I mean, I'm sure there, I'm sure this is no offense to the master book binders of the world. I'm sure there's quite a lot to that craft. But you know, I can only make so many blank notebooks for friends and family before I'm like, well, I feel like I've sort of tapped out what I'm going to get from this. Knitting, you know, I haven't picked up my knitting needles in forever, but I hope spring's eternal because they all my knitting supplies like live, I know where they live. They live in my one of my craft cabinets, not the wooden one, but the metal one. You know, I've just had a lot of hobbies over the years. It reminds me of the Simpsons tape that we played on the show. I think it was maybe just on Friday about the closet. This is different. Oh, you used to do my little paintings. Oh, you used to do little paintings, almost like three dimensional little paintings that some of them hang on our walls, right? Yeah, a few of them. Yeah. I can't find it. Oh, yeah, the failure closet. This is what I'm looking for. Hey, how come you never play your guitar anymore? I'll tell you the truth, Dad. I wasn't good at it right away, so I quit. I hope I'm not mad. Son, come here. Of course I'm not mad. If something's hard to do, then it's not worth doing. You just stick that guitar in the closet next to your shortwave radio, your karate outfit, and your unicycle, and we'll go inside and watch TV. What's on? It doesn't matter. I love that. I love that. That does not describe you. Yours is not a failure closet. Yeah, I mean, I picked up and put down a number of usually kind of craft type projects over the years, but I do, oh, during the pandemic, I got like super obsessed for about, for a hot minute with embroidery until you told me that nobody wants to receive embroidery as a gift, and it really, really poured cold water all over my dreams of becoming a master embroider. I don't think that's what I said exactly. It is almost literally word for word what you said. No one wants to receive your hobbies as a gift. I said hobbies, yes, generally speaking. But you were referring in the specific, in the instance it was about my embroidery. I remember this conversation. I did not even remember that that was about embroidery. But what were you embroidering? Because I do remember, and I almost brought this up to let the listeners weigh in on this, except I know I'm just going to get beat up in the comments. Like, I don't even know if I want the listeners to weigh in because of course they're going to take your side on this. But I would say that there are certain things that people pick up as hobbies and then they create something that is fun to share and useful for another person. But there are other things that you make as a hobby that you got to just sort of say to yourself, this is my hobby. This is for me. What are some good examples of things that are not for other people, but just for the hobbyist? This stuff that I do. I digitize TV commercials. I wouldn't give as a gift. Oh, you wouldn't give someone a thumb drive. You wouldn't give them a YouTube link. I wouldn't give them a thumb drive with a bunch of commercials from the 80s and 90s. And you think that's equivalent to receiving a hand embroidered piece of art? I don't, I mean it depends on what it is. And I can't remember the specifics of what launched this, but I remember you were going to give somebody as a gift something that was like seemed a little... It was an embroidered llama. That was so cute. That's what it was. Oh, that does sound cute. Yeah. Maybe I picked the wrong battle on that one. I just mean generally speaking, not everything that we make as our hobby necessarily is a good gift. Sometimes the hobby... And other than thumb drives full of digitized content, what's another good example of that? Well, I think you do have to, and I think I learned this from you. I think you have to be a little bit careful about giving away anything that would take up a lot of space on a wall if you're a photographer or a painter or anything like that. That's fair. I know the person, and I'm somebody who fancies myself a bit of an amateur photographer, and I love doing it. But I wouldn't presume for somebody who, except for a very, very small number of people, I wouldn't presume that they want to put my work on a wall. And if they don't, then they get this thing that they got to throw in the closet or something like that. So I do think that sometimes a hobbyist needs to understand that the hobby is for them. That was all I was saying, and it's not always just like a... You just happened to say it as I was talking about doing an embroidery llama. I don't remember the llama. Honestly, you know me. I love... Where'd that llama end up? Did you give it to somebody? I don't think I ever made it. I was too... My hopes were dashed. Yeah, I love the idea that I can... But guess who's getting an embroidery llama now? I actually, I kind of wouldn't mind what... That's why I'm surprised that that's what started this conversation. Because I kind of like, ah, no, I actually embroidered a llama. But wait a second. I thought embroidery is... So you don't mean like a plushie llama. You, is an embroidery like a flat piece of canvas and then you sew a design into it? Yeah, so you know in our kitchenette, we have a little, it's like a little still life of like hanging plants on a piece of, you know, white linen or canvas or whatever. And there's just threads that are sewn to make it look like, you know, it's in our kitchen. It hangs downstairs. Yeah, at our kitchenette. That's embroidery. That's embroidery. And I made that. As is the little thing that your brother gave you that says in speaking of Yelp, I think you made a little sign for you. That's actually, I think, cross stitch perhaps, which is like a sort of a subcategory, but it's related. And listen, as you say that, I'm thinking about the specific listeners who I used to follow on Instagram, who I know that these are their hobbies. And they make beautiful, beautiful work. I'm not saying it's never a good gift. I'm just saying as the hobbyist, I'm just saying as the hobbyist, you need to ask yourself, did I make this for me for the experience of doing it? Or did I truly make it as a gift for somebody else? And is this what this person wants? Or is this what I want to make and give them? And is it more of a gift to yourself? All right. It's just a question to ask. I'll put together like a worksheet on it. Great. Yeah, just sort of a checklist that you should always ask before you give somebody a gift from your heart. I feel like sometimes on the show, I come off as too likable. That's kind of an ongoing problem with me. So here's my gift to you, Genevieve. I'm going to give you this little screen here so you can share my screen. I've always wanted one. No, no, you don't get to keep the tablet. You get to keep the memories of what I'm going to show you on this tablet, because my hobby lately has been going through these VHS tapes that I founded a garage sale, or various garage sales, I guess. And digitizing them. And I kind of go, your sewing hobby has remained pretty consistent at least for the past year or so. I've been doing it for about two years, two and a half maybe. Without long breaks. Yeah, I just, I mean, for one thing, it is there's nothing like having an item of clothing that you envision and you make it and it fits your body perfectly. And as I get, and I love learning and like every sewing, every time I sew something, I learn something new about like, like some technique or something. And so it really is such a satisfying to me that the feeling of learning something new is the most satisfying feeling. And there's just, there's no equal to like learning in the process of doing something. For me, that's how I learned the best. For me, I feel like my hobbies kind of come and go or my passions. I don't even know if you want to call it a hobby. I guess I'm pretty consistent with darts these days. I don't like to go more than a couple of days without tossing darts here in my basement. And so that might be the exception. But then the things that I do behind a computer, whether it's, like I said, I do like certain video games, just silly games like Minecraft, but you can get really obsessed with in the open world thing. And, but then I'll put down Minecraft for an entire year and just be like, I don't, and during that fallow period, I'll actually think to myself, I think I'm just done. Like the idea of logging in the Minecraft, you know, during certain cycles just seems so ridiculous. Why would I do that? It holds zero appeal. Yeah, like who would ever do this? But then it's insanity. You'll get a little trigger, whether you see, whether it's actually, it's not even usually a promotion or an advertisement. It's just something else where I'll sit down and be like, Oh, it'll be fun just to start a new world or whatever happened to that thing. I'll just log in for a second. Are my horses too crowded? Are my horses too crowded? That's Genevieve's thing. When I create these little farms in Minecraft, the only thing Genevieve cares about is that I'm not overpacking the stables or the little fence areas. The only thing that matters to me in Minecraft is animal welfare. That's right. And so I'll go through periods and I'm just like, with the digitizing of tapes, it can be even more so, even though it's something that I'm a little bit more, again, I wouldn't use the word proud, but something that is actually seems like less shame. Less shame, but I have to go back to the Simpsons. But it is something that I feel like I'm preserving and sharing both on YouTube. I think that, like, yes, I think your digitization of these old preserving of ephemera and the way that you do it with your like love of sort of like the archiving, the archivist in you and your love of. I do love archiving. And preserving and really like record keeping. And I did my master's degree all those years ago in public history. And I always think of how important, in the same way that the people who do Wikipedia are doing the Lord's work. And the Internet archives. Yeah, the Internet. And there are people who like you and you are contributing to this, who are in this world that we're in where things are increasingly like media disappears all the time, like, and especially from like a pre digital era. Yeah, that's what I was gonna say, not increasingly, I would say more. It's this era of the 80s and 90s where people had VHS tapes, but nobody was actually up, you know, like kind of uploading and saving TV shows. Yeah, I think what you're saving and the ephemera, especially like somewhere is every. Episode of, you know, Mr. Belvedere, Mr. Belvedere, right? Or like some some stupid sitcom that only even had one season somewhere in some dusty room that exists. It's probably released on DVD at some point in the. Yeah, but there are certain things that some of the like commercials and promos and things that anything that's alive. That was live that if you don't grab it off this VHS tape and put it on YouTube and save it and make it searchable. It's just never going to exist. And does that one thing matter? No. But date, but like history is made up of all of these little things. Cultural history is all of those things, right? And it all to be to be interesting and to be helpful and to teach us anything down the road. Every little piece of that cultural history actually does matter. Which brings us to where we are today. Most of my digitizing is of commercials because you and I have a podcast about commercials after these messages. It's a passion. And also I feel like that's the bigger ephemera. When I grab these tapes sometimes it might just be movies taped off of television and a recent example would be Rebel Without a Cause. I have some tape that somebody who I never met, you know, recorded Rebel Without a Cause off of some either local channel or cable channel. But here locally in Seattle at some point, I bought that tape at a garage sale. I'm not going to digitize that copy of Rebel Without a Cause. That's obviously preserved. But in between are the commercial breaks and the little moments where a local newscaster might come on and say, we're going to have more on the weather coming up at 11. Those things were never saved. A quick little live promo for the news, those are true ephemera and still remain that way. That's how I feel about the Gary, I've been watching Gary's, I'm Larry Sanders show, the Gary Shandling parody talk show that was on in the 90s. And one of the things we both been enjoying about it is that whoever recorded it did so off of some, it's like a Canadian channel or British channel or something. I think it's British or Australian. I think it's Australian actually. Maybe. And at the end of every episode of Larry Sanders show, they say like coming up is David Letterman and his guest is, you know, Paula Abdul or whoever. And it's just kind of fun to be like in this one moment in time, like you just get a glimpse of something. Yep. That's exactly, exactly what I love. And so mostly I focus on commercials, but I did get a big grip of tapes from some family that loved FX programming back in the mid 90s. Now, I think I've talked about this on the show before, but I don't know if people would remember it's become a bit of an obsession of mine because I have so many tapes of this. When you think of the FX network now, you think of them creating new programming, right? Like Atlanta, I believe was an FX show. They've made the, well, like the Americans and that stuff was FX. They also, I think, you know, are a good place to find good movies to watch. You know, FX. We know what FX is now today. But when it started, and I only learned this through this project, FX popped up in like the early to mid 90s, I want to say. And it was like a combination of, a lot of the programming was like a combination of Good Warning America and MTV. It has this very MTV sensibility. Uncomfortable bedfellows, you would think. Weird, right? But like they had a show that was called Breakfast Time. And that was my first, the very first tape I popped in was an episode of Breakfast Time, like a four hour morning show. Very chatty, but it all takes place. And this is for the whole network back then. Basically, FX, the network bought some sort of a house or a studio that they converted into looking like a house with all these different rooms, right on the edge of Central Park. And they would do these shows out of the house. And sometimes they're like milling about in what looks like a kitchen or they could do cooking segments in the kitchen, but then they could go hang out in the dining room or the living room or whatever. And it was the fourth wall was never there. You always saw camera people in the background. They were running around. They would go over to a bunch of people going through letters or emails at a desk, but like email is early back then. So like they don't even have a like at FX.com. It's like at Delphi. Reach us at FX, personal effects at Delphi.com or whatever. The Internet was so new and you could fax in your questions, but they were leaning so hard into audience interaction in a kind of a very early digital way. They were breaking ground on that, but it was also very corny. But a little postmodern in the sense of like breaking, like no sense of the fourth wall, like totally like very high concept with that big house that like everything takes place inside this. Explicitly, you know, staged space, but that they've tried to like recreate all of the elements of your day. And it's, I mean, it didn't become like a standard or anything, but I really appreciate the high concept big swing of it all. And the host, one of the hosts of breakfast time was Tom Bergeron. Yes, people know. And Laurie Hibbert, I don't know if she went. Laurie Hibbert maybe was a Canadian personality who hosted the show with him between 94 and 96. And Tom Bergeron, what is he best known for? America's Funniest Home Videos, Hollywood Squares, Good Morning America. So that kind of thing. Do you know that name? I know that. Yeah, I was going to say, I think I think America's Funniest Home Videos would be my, my most would have been my first guess for him. Yeah. And so that was the morning show, breakfast time, but they also had a show in the afternoons, I'm assuming, called Personal FX. And whoever I got these tapes from was especially obsessed with Personal FX. And again, this only aired from 94 to 96, I want to say. So this is the very specific time stamp of it. And Personal FX was like Antiques Roadshow. They're like, we're going to do our kind of MTV-esque take. And when I say MTV, there was no music involved, but just sort of like kind of 90s, kind of hipster-y vibe or whatever. And when I first got these tapes, I was going through it, I found that interesting. But I wasn't really capturing a lot of that. Cause I was like, I just want the commercials. I can't digitize this, all of these tapes. But lately, I've been needle dropping a little bit and just isolating little bits. Because first of all, one thing that changed is I've started posting some of these little clips to TikTok. I've never been a big TikTok person, but I think maybe I miss Instagram. It's funny that I ditch Instagram because of ethical reasons and how I feel about Mark Zuckerberg. But oh, I'll hop over to TikTok. Whoever's running TikTok, I'm sure is a... We probably share a worldview. Stand up guy. Yeah, exactly. But anyway. So I've been kind of posting... There's a lot of vintage VHS community on TikTok. Hannah and I were talking about this on the Spalers podcast that I'll post later today. And anyway, so I've been posting some of this stuff and I can't post it all because I feel like I will lose some of my 100 followers on TikTok if I... But I do not mind boring you with this, Genevieve. And the TBTL audience here. I want to play for you a little clip just to give you a sense of it, the people that they have on. So imagine them, they're kind of... Again, this is like Antiques Roadshow. So they have some of their guests coming into the studio slash living room slash whatever they're doing this in this house. But then they're also really big into like telecommunications sort of. And so they often are talking to people on TV. So let's just picture two hosts, two expert like antique appraisers or something like that. But also keep in mind that this... The Antiques Roadshow, I do think this show gives you an appreciation for how good Antiques Roadshow is because this... These people are not ready. Discount. The people that they have on. So what they do is they bring some people into the studio, but then they have what they call their FX Road Warriors or like their correspondence who go out. And then they'll always have somebody in somebody's like home. There's one that's like yardstick collector or whatever. I have every... Was there one that's Garfield or is that something that... Am I conflating? I think I did a... I'm either conflating a personal effects with an episode of I think you should leave or there was actually... Oh, there was a big Garfield sketch and I think you should leave. The Jim Davis home where they have a intervention for an addict, but it's in Garfield home. Anyway, putting that aside for a second, I want to share with you a couple of these things because the people that they bring into the... So some of the people are here, but then sometimes they're literally sitting in a living room talking to a television where their correspondent is somewhere else in America interviewing somebody maybe in their apartment or their home looking at their collection. And it's amazing how they didn't seem to have any... And this sounds really rude to the people who they bring on, but they all look like hostages, making like a hostage video. They all look so nervous and they're scared to talk and there must be something about the process of the producers bringing people in. They just didn't make them feel comfortable enough. And it's hilarious because they're all there together. So you'll see the guy who's ready to show off his collection of baseball cards, whatever, in the corner. And he's just sort of sitting in a living room chair looking a little bit lost with his cane leaning up against his arm chair while they're talking to the comic book boy on a TV. Here's this comic book kid and I feel so bad for this kid. And what I love is these appraisers have to tell this kid that his comic book isn't worth shit. And one of them, the guy breaks the news to the kid kind of nicely, but this woman, you don't see a lot of her in this particular clip, but she is severe. These are the two experts? These are the two experts. So I'm going to play for this. They're wrapping up a conversation with some guy in studio and then they're going to toss to this kid who's joining them from a television. He's holding one single comic book. I'm sure we'll appreciate it. Thank you so much for being here. Take good care. And back in Colorado, Kyle waits in appraisal. Hi, Kyle. Welcome. What did you bring to be appraised? So you can see two camera people in the shot because they need all the different angles. Another thing about this, though, is it's very unforgiving for everybody involved because you're seeing the backs of people's heads. It's really hard for makeup and everybody. The one guy looks fine. The appraiser looks fine head on. But then in the back, you see that he's kind of got a mullet combined with male pattern baldness. And I'm saying that as somebody who has male pattern baldness, but it's just like it's hard to stylize yourself for every single angle of the camera. Yeah, I mean, their production, I think, eyes were bigger than their production stomachs. Yes, I still love the idea of this. But anyway, so you see the camera people sitting around. You see some people in the background ready for their moment in the limelight. And again, this one woman who's an appraiser, we're going to hear a little bit from her, but she is so... she just... She didn't come here to make friends, Andrew. She did not come here to make friends. No, welcome. What did you bring to be appraised? This comic book. Now, by the way, the Chiron here says live from Grand Junction, Colorado. Oh, that's also where our yardstick man is going to be. I don't know if we'll have time to get into that today. And then it says, Kyle, granddad enjoyed collecting comics. And he's holding a single comic book. It kind of makes it seem like Kyle's the granddad. It sort of does. And then it says, Our Army at War, Sergeant Rock. It's a DC comic that he's holding. Colorado, Kyle waits an appraisal. Hi, Kyle. Welcome. What did you bring to be appraised? This comic book. Do you collect a lot of them? Yeah. All right. How many do you have in your collection? A little over 200. All right. Oh, very good. Can you tell us, is that particular... By the way, another reason you can tell this kid is uncomfortable is he keeps on messing with his ear. I'm just realizing now, whatever... they're talking to him from a different location. He's in Grand Junction. And the earpiece they gave him clearly isn't staying in. He's just uncomfortable. Comic book, the first one, is it number one? Or do you know what the number of it is? I think it's number 297. Oh, number 297. Well, that would be a far later version. Usually with comic books, the first one that's issued, if it does... There's that hair I was talking about. That is rough. No shame in having male pattern baldness, but then he's got this long hair in the back and this shot in the back. It's tough stuff, right? Everything about this is brutal. Yeah. And continue to be... Speaking of brutal, we're about to hear for the first time from the appraiser. Probably, he's usually worth the most. This one here, Susie, I think about maybe three to five dollars, I would think, at this particular point. Was that a UPC code on that? That's a UPC code, yeah. Three to five. Three to five? Three to five. Do you think you can add to your collection or put this up for sale? Put it up for sale. Put it up for sale. We'll be happy to do that for you. Thank you so much for the work. So that's the other thing they do is because they want to be interactive with the audience, you can put yourself up for sale, but this kid in this poor kid wants to make three to five dollars by selling it on TV. Oh, my God. And he just looks so... And his home, although I'm sure it's whatever, it's a fine home, it's just so... Just sort of dingy and it just looks... Everything's staged with just the worst instincts. Watch this guy. This guy's got a horse. He's so nervous. He's got a horse? He's got a little collectible horse. It's about you can hold it in your hand. He's so nervous that... Think about it, like, he's probably known for days, hopefully weeks, maybe months, that he's going to be on the show to show off one object. It's a horse. When they introduce him, he's so nervous, he forgets that it's a horse. Take a listen to this. Different thing. Different period. This guy you're about to see, and I'll let you describe it, Genevieve. He is... And again, I don't think that he comes off as grumpy. A lot of these people come off as grumpy because they're so nervous. This is a real production failure. Like, again... They needed to make these people more at ease. It really shows you how good Antiques Roadshow is because even when people seem a little goofy or whatever, it's such a comforting, comfortable... And even when they find out their stuff isn't worth anything, it's all done with a maximum of, like, good humor and, like, oh, well, it's an important thing to me, and I'll just have sentimental value to it. So this episode... They don't then go, like, I guess I'll sell this worthless piece of show under your shoe. Yeah, I guess, well, I guess I'll just keep it. Now, this is a totally different episode. These are different appraisers here. And the global commemorative bicentennial plate had an appraised value of $25 to $60. So once again, let's give you our telephone number and we invite you to join the bidding process, 212-802-0082. Let's go back out to Grand Junction, you want to? Yes. Let's go. We're going to go back out to Colorado where Scott has been kind enough to join us. Look at this guy. How you doing there, Scott? Good. How are you today, guy? Real good. Now, how would you describe him? He's an older man, a white guy in a very frumpy, kind of oversized plaid jacket. He looks really, really grumpy. And he's just... He's kind of slouching in his chair a little bit. Slouching in a chair in front of, you know, like, very country-kitched style, like, cupboards filled with crockery of some description. In the Chiron on the screen says, Scott, corraled horse at yard sale for $5. Good. Thank you. Tell us what you brought. Well, I brought this little cast iron dog bank or excuse me, it's a horse. And again, I really don't want to make fun of this guy because I really think it's the problem with the producers. I wish that everyone could be in the room with me right now and see what I am seeing. Because when I tell you that this horse is cursed, I beg you to believe me. It is a blur's image. It is a cursed image, for sure. I'll let you keep talking over top as I let him sort of... There's a spark plug. Spark plug. Oh, yeah, there it is. I don't think this is one of the original spark plug banks. If you look, you can see the casting is very rough and the paint is newish, very new looking. He goes on to say, this appraiser goes on to say that he thinks this might be a copy, not an original, maybe not even from before World War II or something like that. Possibly by someone who's never seen a horse. But they never explain what spark plug is. No, it's not good. They just assume that we know. Meanwhile, now we have a kind of a more wide shot of this guy sitting at the table looking sort of forlornly down in this dog horse. Archie Bunker, if that's helpful. Kind of. He doesn't seem hate filled though. He just seems sad. Yeah, but I just mean like his general sort of presentation. He's got two collared shirts on. He's Steve Bannon-ing it, as we like to say. Now who's hateful? Right, right. He's like, if Archie Bunker and Steve Bannon had a baby, an old, weird baby with an ugly horse. Look out, world. Okay, one more little piece of this and then we'll get to the really fun part of the show. But this next piece is not about the people who are joining the show as guests for something to sell. This is them setting up a special feature they want to do about digital photography. Digital photography is so new at this time that they're explaining it and they're explaining it only as a tool for archiving your collection of whatever. Collectibles. Because this show is still personal FX. So this is going to begin with the two hosts. No, I think just the male host, I believe. Talking to a young woman who is my 90s kind of dream girl, Veeves. Let me show you what she looks like and you'll see. Kind of pixie cut, right? Yeah. A little kind of jacket with like a tartan skirt. Black tight. If I can't see her shoes, but I'll bet you she's wearing some kind of boot. Maybe a Doc Martin. Or maybe a, what are the other cute shoes from the time that were kind of a timeless throwback? Like a Mary Jane. Mary Jane, I have those. Hard to say. But she's like one of their... She's rocking that look by the way. She looks awesome. She's really cool looking. So she's sitting there, they're doing this one in the kitchen for some reason. The host is behind the counter. The web woman is there holding the digital camera that is about the size of, and this is going to speak to my knowledge of sci-fi movies. This digital camera she's holding looks a lot like the field glasses that Luke Skywalker uses. Yeah. When he's looking at the various moons or whatever. You know what I'm talking about? I'm going to table the quote, various moons. Yeah, isn't that what he's using? Or is he just looking at sand creatures or something through them? I just think it's not various moons. I could have sworn when he's a kid on his planet you look, are they suns? Multiple suns? I don't know, but I think we're getting side-checks. Okay, sounds good. But anyways, I can do this big clunky looking thing, you know? About the size of a bread box. Maybe not quite, but nobody knows what a bread box is. Anyway, they're going to explain a little bit about how this works. Hello everybody, welcome to Tuesday's edition of Personal FX. We've got a very, very interesting segment we're going to be teaching you about. And it has to do with computers and how to log your collectibles. Our FX online computer photographer, Renee Hawks is here. Hi, hi. Nice to see you. Now tell me about logging pictures in the computers. Is this an expensive process? Well, not for what we do, you know. You pay about $700 for one of these digital cameras. I did the, I mean, is that expensive or not? I've been going around and around on that. It's expensive. In today's dollars, according to a couple of websites I looked at with inflation, that's around $1,500 today. Yeah. Which I have a digital camera that if I were to buy a new version of that, whatever updated version, it would be in the thousands of dollars. Yes, it's not that, I mean, I'm not saying it was like crazy at the time. It's just that I'm sure that whatever piece of equipment she's holding there takes a picture that's worse than your worst cell phone picture. Oh, absolutely. Your worst cell phone picture 10 years ago. I'm sure it's just like very, very, very pixelized. And in two minutes you can look at what you've taken and it's, you don't have to pay the development cost or for film. In two minutes. I think it does. It only takes two minutes. It only takes two minutes. That's interesting because today's shoe... Oh, there we see her shoes. Mary-Jane's, right? Oh, yeah. Good call. We know the 90s. So, it's like, you know, it's like, you know, you're not going to be able to take a picture of a $1,000 piece. So, if she's just going to take one picture regularly, I think we figured it out, that would be over $4,000. Wow. And that's just if you take one picture, but obviously if you have a collection you want to log, you're going to take two or three, which could run you up to about $12,000. So, they go on in this show with these numbers that they've kind of come up with, thinking like, well, you buy film, you take two or three photos of every object in your collection of no matter what it is. How much, you know, you're saving by using, it really comes off as an infomercial for digital photography. It's cheaper than. Yeah, so we look at it as an inexpensive way to catalog what we do on the shows every day. Now, Faith, you're our first contributor on today's show, right? Yes. Do you mind if we use this? I'd be very honored if we got that. He's gesturing towards a vase that she has. Can I sidebar on one thing here? Yeah, please. Because our girlfriend, our friend here with the, with the, what was it, $900, $700. $700. $700. $700. Digital camera. She's really in a cute outfit. And I would like, never shame a woman for like, how she like looks or what she chooses to wear. But like, the other woman here with the vase, clearly like went to hair and makeup and they put a little makeup on her face. Digital camera girl, not a swipe of makeup on her face. And it really like, she needs to have makeup to be on camera. Like it just, she looks so washed out. So interesting. I actually didn't notice that so much. Like she's like, nothing on her lips, nothing. Nothing. But I support women though. I mean, I'm just saying, like they're doing her a disservice. So anyway, they continue this. She takes some photos of this vase. Then later on, they do a whole segment with another member of their digital team who's now taken those photos and uploaded them into the computer program that they use. And this guy is also very nice. Oh wait, that's not him. That's not him. We're getting to it. They put a little powder on that shine. That's a guest as I'm showing Genevieve as we're wrapping up another segment here, but we're about to be introduced. With us is Bill Corbin, our FX wizard. Hi Bill, how are you? Good. How are you doing? You were explaining this very nicely just a second ago. This is not the Bill Corbin, the famous Bill Corbin who wrote for MST 3000, I don't believe. Right? That's Bill Corbin, right? Isn't that his name as well? I don't know. This is a young man who's probably about the same age as the woman with the camera and he's wearing a very, how do you describe a plaid shirt that has very big squares on it? I guess I just did. Yeah. He's wearing a plaid shirt with very, very big squares. Some sort of khakis. I'm costumably large plaid. It is. And again, not a bad looking kid, but definitely of the time. You know, you have scrapbooks of your children. So this is kind of a computerized way of doing scrapbooks of anything else, right? Yeah, essentially you put a lot of value on your collectibles, why not catalog them? I noticed that his official title is the FX Pentium Producer, which makes me think that this is a sponsored segment. Yes. The conventional way of cataloging has been replaced as with everything by the computer. Now does this whole system have a name to it? Collector Pro. Collector Pro. Can this be used on any computer system? Right now it runs on DOS or Windows. Okay. All right. And now this is the camera that we talked about earlier that you take these pictures with. And again, it's down to about $700 for the camera. Yeah, this is the Apple Quick Take. They're about $700, and it's becoming more popular coming down in price quickly. Okay. And to take the pictures, it costs? To take pictures on this, nothing. Costs nothing. Costs to the camera, and then the cost of your time to put it from there to here, which is almost no time at all. Which, again, in contrast, just taking a regular photo of 10,000 items would cost you $4,000. Yeah, by the time you finish photographic and developing, you're going to save a lot of money investing in one of these. Incidentally, how do you get the picture from the camera into the computer? Essentially, you snap a picture. Right here, there's a little slot. You open it up, and this plug goes into your computer. You plug it in, and the software that comes with it automatically downloads. That's it? It just goes in automatically like that? Yep, it just goes in automatically. You just open up the picture. You hit File, Open, and it's that easy. Right, now let's talk more about what we should be putting in there and what exactly the thing is. They never get into storage space, by the way. No. Because you would need to probably buy extra hard drives. Although back then, they didn't have external. Well, if they did, they weren't as common as they are now. Like an external hard drive for thousands of photos. You would have been a great guest for that segment. Yeah, I could have been more. Because I can tell you really enjoy the minutia, which is what they are very hot on. Yes, and by the way, I cut that very short. Yeah, there's a lot. There's just getting into that. There's a lot more where that came from. Oh boy. So anyway, that was, I don't know where the listeners are with us right now. They're waiting for dessert. Okay, let us thank some donors here and get on with today's quiz. Thank you, baby. All right, Veeves. These are the folks, as you well know, who keep TBTL ticking. Without these donors, no TBTL. Because I'd have to get some other kind of a job. That's right. And at this point. You're really not fit for any other work. Not really fit for any other work. Thank you for saying that. You're very welcome. I appreciate that. That is why we have to thank people like Matt Hatfield of Media, Pennsylvania. Hey, we've been talking about media. Yes. It's perfect. We actually built today's show all around Matt in his predilections. Gabrielle Joyce also donated to make today's show possible. Gabrielle Joyce is joining us from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Thank you. Beautiful Philly. You love Philly. I love Philly. Last time we visited Philly, the whole plane ride home, you're talking about property values and how we might be able to buy a house in Philly and moving to Philly. I've never seen you so excited to move to a worse weather climate. I know, but I love Philadelphia so much. And I love the way, I love like the neighborhoods that our friends live in. They're so walkable. They have these beautiful townhouses. It's just so gorgeous. And I do love Philly. So to Pennsylvania. Oh, yeah. Not bad. Donors today. Oh, and kind of keeping it in that general area of the country. How about Ohio? Yeah. We have Seth Brawlit in, now would you say Lebanon, like we said in New Hampshire or Lebanon? That's a good question. Is Lebanon Ohio or Lebanon Ohio? Yeah, I don't know. It's tricky when they have these cities from other parts of the world and they get transposed to American pronunciations. Anyways, thank you, Seth. And thank you to Erica Lustig in Graham Washington or Graham Washington. Yeah, I believe Lustig means funny in German. Really? Yeah. Erica, tell me a joke. I'll wait. Kevin Schaefer is in Florence, Colorado. Thank you, Kevin. And Amy Moultrey is in Mercer Island or would you say on Mercer Island, Washington? Yeah, she feels like weirdly you can be in Seattle, but if you're in Mercer Island, it feels like you're underground somehow. You're on Mercer Island. Yeah, I think you'd be on an island. I was looking at something today. I was looking at the bio of another FX host, somebody we'd even get into. I won't get into it now. Save that for another show. But actually, I know I will tell you briefly, just do you know the name Suzanne Wong? I doubt it. W-H-A-N-G. Apparently, she hosted House Hunters for a long time, as HGTV, I think. Probably. And I never watched that, but I just saw her and I didn't know that she was a name just hosting some of these. She was in Grand Junction, Colorado with the yardstick guy. And I was like, who is this? Because she was like very young and very perky and very kind of flirty with him a little bit, this really old guy who again looked kind of out of his element. And she was really doing her best. Although she was doing her best to keep the energy up kind of by interrupting him a lot and not letting him talk. I think that she kind of realized that we need to kind of do the heavy lifting on the personality of some of these folks. Yeah. And so I looked her up and so yeah, she was in some show called Las Vegas, which I don't know about that. I wasn't sure if any of our audience might know who Suzanne Wong is. But anyway, I was reading a bio of her, an interview with her and she mentioned that she was doing a show in Provincetown and she said it's in Cape Cod. Yeah, that does. It struck me as odd. That does hit my ear weird. I thought it would be on the Cape or on Cape Cod. Yeah, I think so. But you know, in the same way that like for whatever reason, we don't say we're on Seattle. That would be very weird. Yeah, that is true. I'm on Seattle. All of that is to say Amy Moultrey is inside Mercer Island, Washington and we appreciate her support and we appreciate everybody's support as I find the top story intro sound. Hello and welcome to Top Story. Okay, Genevieve. What I'm going to do here with this quiz and I set this up at the beginning of the show. It's based, it's only 10 questions and it's based on movies that you and I watch. These kinds of movies that we've seen many times. They're just kind of things that you and I like. Very comfort movies. Comfort movies. For you and I as a couple, I think. What I'm going to do is, oh, that's right. This is such a weird premise. So you and I have noticed a trend in commercials. You and I host after these messages, podcasts about commercials and there are at least two commercials we've seen recently that are completely unrelated to products, but somebody's holding a banana in it for no apparent reason. There's one for some junk removal company around here and they show a guy and he's talking on his cell phone. Without explanation, he's holding a banana to his ear. For some reason, banana. Exactly, which I think is our friend Phyllis' profile pic. Whenever she calls me, I see a photo of her with a banana to her ear, which is really funny. Do you remember that bit from Sesame Street, by the way? It's Burton Ernie. I think so, yeah. I think Burt keeps on trying to get Ernie's attention to tell him why you got a banana in your ear and he's like, I'm sorry, I can't hear you. I have a banana in my ear. Comedy gold. Comedy gold. I remember seeing that as a kid and being like, these guys are geniuses. Anyway, and there's another one for some weapon that you, I'm not even going to give them any. Luke and I were talking about it on the show last week. Yeah, it's like some personal protection thing that's like dog whistling at all the conservatives. And so this woman holds up a banana and says like, basically she implies that if, that what she's really holding is this, you know, non-lethal weapon. Yeah, I can't tell if they're doing that just to get attention because it makes you go look up what she's talking about or if it's because they don't feel like legally they can show the weapon on television. It feels like there's some sort of unspoken element to it, I agree. Yes. So what I've done is I've taken quotes from these specific movies that you and I like. Yeah. And again, you're pretty familiar with them. I think this is going to be too easy to be honest with you. But I've taken the quotes and I've replaced one word with the word banana. It's very similar to a bit that they do on one of my favorite pod. It's not really that similar, but one of my favorite podcasts is Blank Check. Yes. With Griffin and David, also about movies. And at the beginning of every episode, Griffin says a line from the movie they're talking about, but replaces one word with podcast. Oh, really? Yeah. Okay. That's clever. Yeah. I like that. I need to get into that show. All right. So, but our listeners should listen to TBTEL first. Yeah. Then do that. So, as we've been saying, you got to eat your vegetables. I've been struggling with how to do this because I, so I can just read you the quote that has been adapted with the word banana or bananas. And you can tell me the missing word. Okay. But I also recorded a version of a clip from the movie only I've replaced the word with my voicing banana. So, this first one is super easy. I know you're going to get this because we say it to each other all the time. I don't know why. It's a classic line from a dorky little movie that we like. You got to tell me. And by the way, I don't know about points on this one. I'll give you points if you can get the word right, get the movie right, give me more information. About the scene. Sure. Some of these I need you to tell me more about because they're more your movies than mine. This first one though is I've invented a pill that gives bananas to ex-girlfriends. Now, I know you know what that is right away, but let's just say that you were struggling with that one. Right. You could say, I want to hear the audio and you would hear this. I've invented a pill that gives bananas to ex-girlfriends. Okay. Do you understand why I'm running so late today because I'm doing a lot of stuff like this. I've invented a pill that gives bananas to ex-girlfriends. Okay. Okay. Obviously that is Bruce McCullough and Brain Candy, the Kids in the Hall movie. Indeed. He's invented a pill that gives worms to ex-girlfriends. That's right. Brain Candy, Kids in the Hall movie. Bruce McCullough, you got that right and it is worms. I was watching, I think I told you I was watching that documentary Too Funny to Fail about the Dana Carvey. Oh yeah. The Rise and Fall, the Dana Carvey show. Which lasted one season I think. Yeah. So they got eight episodes and then the eighth one, which was like their beloved farewell to this dream that they had. ABC didn't even air it. It just aired an episode, a rerun of Coach. Oh my goodness. And John Mulaney, or sorry not John Mulaney, Bill Hader gives the funniest interview in the, one of the funniest interviews in the documentary where he's like, because he was obsessed with the show as like a young person, obsessed with comedy. So he always said his VCR, I mean it was that era, right? He set his VCR to record the Dana Carvey show and then he came to watch it and it was just an episode of Coach. And he was like, he was like, I couldn't believe it. I thought I must have done something wrong. I must have set it up wrong because how could they not air the final episode? And he's like, but then I watched the episode of Coach. Dober's at it again. So this scene in brain candy, I'm trying to put it in time. Oh, sorry. The reason I brought that up is that there's a photograph of Robert Smigel in that documentary from his early days of starting to write for Lauren Michaels Productions and SNL and who's he's sitting next to but like Baby Bruce McCullough. Oh really? Yeah. Oh, in the photo. In the photo. Yeah. We got to look up in the like Al Frankenstein at the front of the photo. It's just like, it's an amazing like time capsule. So if you haven't seen brain candy like we've said a couple of times now, it's like kids is a hall movie, which I like. I remember not liking it the first time I saw it. I think it's really hard to make the switch from sketch comedy to a full length feature. We've seen the Bob and David folks kind of struggle with that with Ronnie Dobbs. Is it Run Ronnie Run? Is that the name of their movie? But they all have their moments. And I actually have really come to really like brain candy. I think I was wrong to not like it when I was a teenager. And it's about a pharmaceutical company that had a big hit with some kind of pill called tummies. And I don't even know what tummies. Stummies. And now they're looking for their next big hit, basically. And so scientists are kind of coming in and pitching their new drugs. I've invented a pill that gives worms to ex-girlfriends. Right. And what's positive about that? Well, it's a pill that gives worms to ex-girlfriends. Well, could it also give worms to ex-boyfriends? This is a drug for the world to give worms to ex-girlfriends. Well, great. Well, great. Speaking of Lorne Michaels. Yeah, he's doing his Lorne Michaels. Yeah, that's Mark McKinney doing his Lorne Michaels. I've often thought it'd be fun to do a supercut of all of the people who have worked with or for Lorne Michaels over the years who have done a version of him on screen. Mike Myers is a big one. Mike Myers, Jack Donaghy. Yeah, I mean, Dr. Evil by Mike Myers. There's so many because he's such a... He has created... He certainly created a lot of famous people and also made a huge impression on a lot of famous people. I'm going to play the audio clue for this next one. OK, because I know you're going to get this either. This is such a dumb quiz because almost all of these lines are things that have become part of our vernacular as a couple. I say that for no reason. I'll just say this is a pill for the world that gives worms to ex-girlfriends. A lot of these are like that. So these are all going to be absolute layups for you or impossible. This next one should be a layup. So I'm not even going to say it out loud. I'll just do the tape. I see salt and pepper. Is there a banana? OK, I'm going to play that again. I see salt and pepper. Is there a banana? I see salt and pepper. Is there a banana? Is there a salt substitute? Is there a salt substitute? What movie is this from? That, of course, is what about Bob? This is a dinner scene. One of my very favorite movies. Bob is starting to really get on the nerves of Dr. Leo Marvin. He's overstayed his welcome. He was supposed to be gone, but for some reason he's stuck at the vacation home with Dr. Marvin's family and they're having dinner. And first Bob is being really annoying by like just over. He's eating his food. In fact, some of that might be on the whole table. Leo, I see salt and pepper. Is there a salt substitute? I'll get it. And don't call me Leo. But you said in your office that I could call you Leo. That was in my office. In my home. I'd like you to call me Dr. Marvin. I love that movie so much. It is you and I, I think it was like one of the, if not the first, one of the first movies and like sort of cultural touchstones that we really like bonded over and and and realized that we shared the same sense of humor. And from every, from all accounts, the, the antagonism between Dreyfus and Bill Murray on set was real and like is. Oh, really? Partly what you're seeing on screen is that Dreyfus does not like Murray. And Murray being in the certain way, a little bit of a Bob, right? Like sort of like, you know, irrepressible and, but oblivious. And I think they probably have very different acting styles and processes for getting to their characters. But all I can tell you is that I wish they'd made a thousand movies together because they are, their energies are so perfectly like in conflict. And it's like the best movie about conflict. I, it's so funny. It reminds me a little bit about the story about Jean Hackman on Royal Ten and Bombs. Yes, on Royal Ten and Bombs. Right. He didn't really get it. And that's why, and like his performance is so different from other, the other, like the Luke Wilson, the, you know, Luke and Owen Wilson and like the way they vibe with the West Anderson, like with West Anderson's whole thing. And I think one of the reasons that's Ten and Bombs is so successful to me and I think better than some of his more like, I guess, like precious, you know, I would say like, you know, Moonrise Kingdom being a good example where everybody is sort of like in the world of West Anderson. I love the fact that Ten and Bombs has Jean, Jean Hackman, who's not in that world. And I, for some reason, I wouldn't say get him confused. But Dreyfus and Hackman, they share a, yeah, kind of a similar space in my brain. It's hard for me to remember one when I'm thinking about the other. Yeah. I mean, Hackman, God rest in soul. But like he, he had, he took different kinds of roles. I mean, Dreyfus was always more nebishy, you know, more like wormy a little bit. You know, but I, and Hackman was more kind of like, I feel like a little bit more like of a tough guy, but the other surely from the same era of like, you know, 70s movie stars are and yeah, kind of tough. I think it can be. I mean, it can be. I don't think how Dreyfus is doing a tough guy. Yeah, I guess not. He's always there's like an impotence to him. That's right. Because Hackman is the fighting priest in the upside down boat movie. Yeah. Although it's funny, you mentioned that because who was in the remake of upside down boat movie, but Dreyfus. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah. Playing the same role. No, I was going to say, because they're they're the same generation. That'd be a weird recast. No, the Kurt Russell is they re they recast all of the characters. So like, it's not the same. It's not a priest. It's not a one to one. Okay. So but like the main leader guy is Kurt Russell. Okay, you're going to know this next one, but will you be able to come up with the name of the movie? I wonder. And this is one that our listeners will be familiar with as well, I think, in a lot of cases, to drop from a kind of obscure movie that we play a lot on this show. I'm going to play the audio version here. Banana means hello and goodbye. Goodbye. Do you want to hear it again? Banana means hello and goodbye. Goodbye. Put a lot of work into this. You need to hear them twice. Yes, I know. Um, well, I know it's Aloha means hello and goodbye. Aloha. Yeah. It's hello and goodbye. But do you know the name of the movie? Give us the context for when we saw this. Well, we were watching a lot of Crackle, I feel like. It wasn't Crackle. It was Impact Television. Oh, I'm sorry. But you'll, you'll forgive me for getting those two confused. Crackle is a streaming network. Impact was a TV, like a station or a network that played like very low budget 80s and maybe 70s and 80s movies and a lot of TNA. A lot of TNA stuff. It was a network for men. Yeah. And here's where I'm struggling. Was it called Bikini Surf Shop? Or very, very close. I feel like the words surf and shop and bikini were all integral. So you have a shop is in there. Bikini is in there. Now we need a location. Give me a little bit of Bikini shop. Malibu Bikini shop. Indeed. Do. In fact, what can we tell you? It came out in 1986. This is randomly came on. Now, when we say TNA movies, we should mention that this was like a a cable network that was not like HBO or whatever. They didn't show nudity. No. But it was just like taking this era of movie. Yeah. And then then. Kind of horny. Yeah. Just horny movies. And then they would edit them for TV and they would show them. And let's see here. I'm on the IMDB of Malibu Bikini Shop. And I'm looking to see. And there's some real looking back. There's some like, I believe there's some peeping Tom Ness that goes on in this. That would be very upsetting to see today, I believe. It doesn't hold up. In other words, I'm looking for a. I can't believe a movie called Malibu Bikini Shop didn't become an American classic. I know. I'm trying to find like a good description of a boy does IMDB terrible. These really unusable. It is just unusual. I know I said, oh, here it is. Oh, maybe I couldn't find it because it's so brief. I was expecting a much along two brothers who have just graduated from college, inherit a bikini store from their aunt or aunt. And seen. If you will. There's like. Hilarity and boobs and Sue. No, no, no explanation of what conflict is set up. I think somebody has to do something or the bikini shop closes, right? Yes, exactly. There's got to there's probably got to be some sort of competition. And then there's this guy who's like this, you know, he's an older man and he's a stuffy man. I feel like he's always, you know, there's a parody of this kind of guy in like the Simpsons. Yeah. Aloha means hello and goodbye. Goodbye. And then he just charges out the door. All right, you ready for another one? Yeah. OK, this one, I am going to give you the reading on it first before I play for you the audio if you need it. I've never hung on to that part of the banana. You know that part underneath? If I play the audio for you, I'm pretty sure you'll get it. I wanted to try to make this a little bit more. Yeah, I that that's not reading a bell right now. OK, now before I play the audio for you, do you want me to do a reading that is more? I feel like in the spirit of the performance, I've never hung on to that part of the banana. You know that part underneath? Oh, yeah. What am I acting? You're acting really good. My acting unlocked something in you. Yeah, it's it's like somebody who wants to do like an action thing. Like he wants to he wants to live out some fat fantasy of like like a like a it's not a car chase, but it's something like that. As soon as you hear the voice, you know, so this is the clue with with the edit. I've never hung on to that part of the banana. You know that part underneath the thing where it lands? Yeah, I know this one's more challenging. I thought when you heard the audio, you'd know for sure. Yeah, I I know as soon as you say it, it's going to all come back to me. But it's some it's some guy who like who has a fantasy of being in some some like action scene or action adventure and he and he wants to do it. And I can't remember what it is when you hear the longer unedited version. You will know it immediately. I've never I've never like chased a guy across a crowded city square. I've never I've never hung on to that part of the helicopter. You know that part underneath the thing where it lives? Do you know the yes, I know that. I've never hung on to that. Yes, I know that part. Alan Ark and Anthony La Poglia. Yes, in So I Married an Axe Murderer. So I Married an Axe Murderer. He's always he's dreamed of having a cop. He's a cop and he wants to be like in a cop movie where he does like adventure stuff. But mostly what he has to do is fill out paperwork and report to his very reasonable seeming boss. And his boss is very reasonable and it drives him crazy. Once he's like, I want to yell at me. I want you to tell me you're going to take my gun in my bag. I don't know. And then by the end, Alan Ark and kind of does a great performance of being that cranky chief and then says, I don't know. Did I go too far with some of the ethnic slurs? Yeah. All right. Here's another one. That's my piezan. That's right. I know you're going to know this one. I hate I hate how quickly you're going to get this one because I want to play the audio for you. I know he can get the banana. But can he do the banana? I know he can get the banana. But can he do the banana? I know he can get the banana. But can he do the banana? What's it from? Obviously from Joe versus the volcano. It's our very favorite person, Dan Hadaya. That's right. Doing the relentless. I know he can get the job, but can he do the job monologue? Now, I have described this on the show many times. I don't know if Luke has seen this movie or just doesn't remember it or whatever. But I just feel like for folks who haven't seen it, I can't stress enough the amount of time they give Hadaya. To spread out here. So it's the very, very beginning of the movie. And it's the only scene of the movie that he's in. After this scene, we never see him again. I'm going to play a longer version of it here. So you have Tom Hanks and he plays a guy who's just like really, really, really depressed, right? And he goes into what must be described as the most depressing work atmosphere ever. So like this army of just dreary looking workers showing up to work. For the artificial testicle factory. That's right. And then he opens up his he opens up the door to go into work. I think it's subterranean, right? Is in the basement. You will hear in this tape, which is I can't play the whole thing for you. It's so funny. You're seeing images of him, Joe, kind of like he goes to hang up his hat on the coat rack when the coat rack breaks. And he's just like and he goes to pour himself some coffee and like a shitty, shitty Styrofoam cup. And there's like nothing in there or it's mud or whatever. And he's like taking off his overcoat and just showing up for work. And the whole time in the background, you hear the boss in this argument. I know he can get the job. But can he do the job? Harry. Yeah, Harry, but what can he do the job? I know he can get the job. But can he do the job? I'm not arguing now. I'm not arguing now with you. I'm not arguing now with you. I'm not arguing now with you. Harry. Yeah, Harry, but can he do the job? I know he can get the job. But can he do the job? I'm not arguing now. I am not arguing that with you Who said that I? Didn't say that if I said that I would have been wrong maybe Maybe I'm not arguing that Yeah, Harry. I know he can get But can he do the job? Not arguing. Oh, this goes on for another 30 seconds. We listen to about a minute 15 of that It's such a brave choice. Honestly, and it really drives home. Yeah, just the Miserebleness of this so powerful. It's so well executed. It's so To to give I mean they basically give Dan Hadai like four things he can say in that Whatever order in any order you can say them in any order, but he just can only say those four things and he Brings a different spin to each one each one is more irritating than the last he's like nobody Nobody delivers on like just Grimy Unlikeability the way Dan Hadaya does, you know, I mean like he's in you know, he is he's been in a million things He's just a real that guy obviously, but he's so good in Mulholland Yeah, he plays one of the like mobsters who's like determined who's like telling Justin Thoreau what he can and can't do in his movie And he's so threatening and he almost says nothing. He's like he has I he has like virtually no lines But he's incredible. Is he in blood simple or am I just confusing him with with Walsh? Whatever that guy's name. I'm at Walsh. I can't remember. Yeah, okay this next one I'm very interested to know whether or not you will get this I'm gonna start by doing my reading of it, which is going to be difficult because there's a tough word to say in this And you know how I am with words Your work is bananas and under Dramatized you lack any sense of structure character and the Aristotelian Unities Your work is bananas under dramatized, you know it without hearing the tape. Oh, I sure do I feel like the word that you're replacing is Is it banal see that I forgot that is the tough part right? Yeah, you know the movie you know the scene But in this case it's a tough word to know it's not banal. It's not banal. It's your work is Just because I made the time to do it. Let's take it tedious here. It's not tedious I'll play the I'll play the clue for you before we play the whole thing your work is bananas and under dramatized You lack any sense of structure character or the Aristotelian Unities This is one of your favorite movies Sequel Adams family values. Yep Wednesday, she's telling Gary Gary Granger played by Peter Oh gosh, what's his name? I can't think of his last name, but he's he was in alley McBeele. He's been in million things She's telling he wants to do his terrible play A turkey named Brotherhood, which is about the first Peter McNichol Peter McNichol She has written the most racist play ever put on paper called the turkey named Brotherhood for a kid's camp for kids camp is the counselor the adult and and Wednesday is drafted to play the the native person And she Pocahontas right? I think so. She was like nowhere near the and She and he tells she and so she gives him the the bullet on his play which is that it is your work is It's not banal. It's a tough word. It's Your work is pure pure is a pure aisle pure aisle. Oh my god. There. Here's the whole thing I don't want to be in the pageant. Don't you want to help me realize my vision? Your work is pure aisle and under dramatized you like any sense of structure character or the Aristotelian Unities I had to say Aristotelian for that clue Genevieve. Yeah, you could hear me being very careful with that sentence That's such a great movie. All right. I think this one is going to be another toughie for you I'm hoping because it's more fun that way the quote is this Well, the entire civilized world knows that all closets are made of bananas You know it How many movies are about Closets being about a closet, you know what I probably should have replaced the word closet Yeah, the entire civilized world knows that all closets are made of bananas What movie is it? It's overboard. It is Civilized world knows that all closets are made of cedar cedar. Indeed this year. I'll play the whole I wanted cedar You may have wanted cedar, but you didn't ask for cedar Well, the entire civilized world knows that all closets are made of cedar. He made her this amazing closet He made it out of oak it had like some sort of crank where like shoes could come in from the back. It's incredible You love that movie. I love that movie. It's I feel like it's it's about human slavery It is about a sort of an enslavement But she's really a problem, but she's really mean at the beginning You don't feel super bad Right and they really soft pedal like when they start having sex. It's consensual. So it's there They try to be careful also It's Kurt and Goldie like come on is this where they met? I think this is where they met Yeah, they have chemistry. I mean the chemistry is like absolutely Off the charts leaping off the screen. I just can't be mad at overboard. I'm sorry Okay, how about this one? I have no idea Whether or not you'll get this one for real cuz I'm less familiar with this movie than you are It's also shorty so I'm gonna start by just reading it. Okay, I'm not a banana you can't just order Oh, of course You know is that an iconic is that is a kind of a line as it seemed I think about that line all the time really? Yeah, I've always a banana can't just order me. I've always wanted to use that line on somebody But unfortunately nobody who would order me can be told that they cannot order me so unfortunately I am just steak You are Correct the word we replaced with steak. What movie is it from of course? It's working girl Why do you love that movie so much? Oh when she gets her own office? I always cry cry at the end I always cry at the end, but I love how does she love everything about that? So it starts it's a real go-go 80s movie Yeah, it's about a young woman who accepts a job or a woman I guess in her yeah, probably like 20s, right? Yeah, she's pretty young and in fact she has a birthday in the movie I think she's they say how old she is but she's like late 20s late 20s And so she accepts a job But she thinks she's gonna be one of the people working in like the cubicle area But they're like no your office is there and there's some mistake that gets her into the corner office while the real boss is like Held up with a broken leg from a skiing accident. You're conflating ten different things And the plot of the movie is that she she's kind of on her last. She's she's really good She's went to night school. She's a striver. She's a bridge and tunnel girl, but she's a real striver. She's smart She's always thinking about business ideas, but because she doesn't have the fancy degree and because she's a you know She's a hottie. She keeps getting kind of railroaded into these like Secretarial or clerical positions and being taken advantage of Kevin Spacey tries to rape her So it's there's like she she kind of like burns all her bridges with the in these like in this finance Sector and like Wall Street and she gets one more chance Olympia D'Coccus is her placement Like person who like she goes to like these jobs It's like back then they would go to like a job placement company and they would put you somewhere so she gets put with Being the secretary to Sigourney weaver and at first she thinks it's gonna be awesome that this woman's gonna mentor her and She's gonna be like, you know partners and maybe have a shot at a more like Significant job like a real like a job in business Mergers and acquisitions at petty marshes her job or is to her company But then but then she finds out that not only is going weaver a real pill but she is stealing her ideas and then Fortune hands her this opportunity to do a deal while squaring weaver is out of the office with a broken leg stuck somewhere in Colorado So she does this she Can look I'm very confused grabbing this tape today and I saw the scene where she sits herself down in a cubicle And she's ready to get to work on her first day of work and another woman comes I'm getting to it. Oh that hasn't happened yet. That's at the very end. That's why you're conflating two different things. Oh So at the very so anyway, she gets away or you know like it all comes crashing down But then she's able to prove to the big boss that it was her idea and it's going to weaver stole her idea So then the big boss says or it's not really the boss. He's like their client the client says hey like clearly you can't work at this company anymore because you Did an identity fraud? But if you are really hungry and you want to come like you can come work for my my company my media company and So she showed but this is what's hilarious is like she never clear apparently like never clarifies with anybody like What is her job title? What is her salary? What will she be doing in this job? So she's she just takes it and then she shows up for work the you know the next day at this new company and Because she's been her secretary all of her working life. She just she sees a woman Sitting on in the office with her feet up on the phone Which remember she stole the identity of and like or stole basically the job of this woman and like used her office But she sees a woman sitting in this office. She assumes. Okay. That's who I must be working for again How would you not know who your boss was going to be? But she sits down outside the office and starts unpacking her stuff and then the woman comes out of the office And it was like oh, I'm embarrassed like I didn't know you're gonna be here yet I'm this is my desk and there's like a whole thing where she's like oh, but I thought I was a secretary like no No, I'm the secretary So then they trade places and she goes into her new office and she's a business woman and you cry I could okay My apologies for interrupting because I could have sworn when I was scrolling through that movie looking for quotes And I thought that I saw near the beginning of the movie that she sat down on the wrong desk Well, you're saying that's the very final very fine. I would I be scrubbing through the final scene though? That doesn't make sense But anyway apologies for interrupting but we do have to move on here We only have two more to go then we got to get out of here and get the show posted I'm probably already getting emails in my inbox about where the TVTL is today. We usually try to get a posted before now We're still recording. All right, here's one more You're gonna get this we're just talking about this recently I'm afraid How many times do I have to tell you I'm not depressed. I just need bananas You're such a hater of this movie I love it I used to know okay, let's talk about this movie for a second Then we'll tell everybody what it I'm not depressed. I just need space. I just need space You're absolutely right This is a movie that when I first met you you were living with two other women or maybe three other women at the time and I had heard From them teasing you to your face in front of me about this movie because you liked this movie They all thought it was a bad movie and then I sat down to watch it with you and I enjoyed it because I like this kind of movie With you and I'm not it is Incredible and he's the one who has that line. This is me and him doing it together. How many times do I have to tell you? I'm not depressed. I just need bananas And what he needs is space he's saying that to his wife But all that is to say you would always say oh you make fun of me for liking this movie And I never did make fun of you for liking the movie It was your evil roommates who made fun of you right and of course our dear friends who made fun of you It wasn't until the most recent rewatching That I started to turn on it and now I'm agreeing with your roommates I actually think Dan out so the movie is the couch trip I'm a couch trip and I another stolen identity movie very similar actually structurally to Working girl and I think my problem with it is the Dan acroidness the last time I watched it I realized oh He's trying so hard to be like flat yeah in this movie, but he Can't do that. Yeah, he's not yeah, he's Dan acroid He you know, whatever Chevy Chase's personal deficits might be he's really he is good at like the sort of bit Bitty stuff that he does as Fletch I think acroids fine in the couch trip I think like he and Walter Matthow have a pretty good chemistry But the star the best part of the movie is the second movie There's like the a plot which is Dan acroid is passing himself off as a psychiatrist in order to like make a big score of Money and get away because he's being chased by the cops Secondarily in a separate part of like the world I think in France or something We have Charles Groton who is the guy who's he's so good and he's just like yeah He's he's just Grotening it up. He's like just so down and depressed and nobody makes depression seem funnier than Charles Groton Do you know what I think you watched it with me? It was a movie that Luke had told me about I'm trying to remember what why this came into our life But it was a movie that Luke had remembered some very specific details about from his youth and he wanted to know if he was right about it So later that night I found the movie. I think I actually bought it and watched it with you and it's the Steve Martin movie and the scene that Luke remembered was when he put on a cologne that smells like sweat so he could like trick people into thinking that he was actually like kind of an athletic guy who goes on jogs or whatever and In that and that also has Charles Groton. Oh, it's it's the lonely guy. It's called the lonely guy, right? Oh, we watched this yeah, we watch it because of that Why yeah, we watch it and remember we had pizza or something and we watched it and Luke was absolutely right about that Yes, about that particular scene about the fake sweat or whatever, but also I use this this is Charles And especially watchable movie. It's got its moments. It doesn't know its voice very well It's slapstick it sometimes breaks the fourth wall some it's very uneven But this is another depressed Charles Groton sitting next to Steve Martin on a bench talking about naps Quarter the four you gotta take a nap or something I don't like to take naps I don't like to wake up more than once a day because when I first wake up I get that shock of who I am and everything I really don't like to do that more than once a day I Right when you say he plays depressed so well. He really really does oh god another one rest in peace god Charles Groton is just so good. You know, he's he's has a tiny role in And and kills it in so I married an axe murderer Oh, yeah, of course. He's his car. Yes He's the one who Anthony La Poglia says like I've got a I want to come and do your vehicle and he just goes No That's right. He is so good and everything he's really good and and I want to say midnight express Which is the wrong movie but um midnight run midnight run. Oh my god. These things go down It's so good. We need to rewatch that because you and I had not seen that in ever right and we watched it for the first time Yeah, I watched it for the first time not that long ago. It was so good. We were blown away It's a near and a comedy. It's so I guess he'll go on to do later. It's so good. Yeah midnight run is like flawless Okay, um last one here and we really do have to get out of here. So this is the last one and I'm Counting on you having no idea. Okay. I'm really hoping I already screwed it up with um So I married an axe murderer Oh, that's right the banana hanging from the bottom of the banana like I could picture I knew like the vibe of it, but I just couldn't if I could have just Remembered that it's Anthony La Poglia What I thought was funny was even when I played the clue for you where you could hear his voice You didn't get it until I played the full one and it just starts a second earlier And then I saw your eyes light up. There was something about hearing the very I've never I've never like chased a guy across a crowded city square. That was the only part you didn't hear Guy that guy. Okay. All right. So this next one. I'm gonna start with a read on it Where has your head been lately? Did you have a hard banana last night? It sounds familiar really okay. Where where has your head been lately? Did you have a hard banana last night? I'll say right now. It's not dirty It's not dirty. Um I yeah, I maybe if I heard the real clip. Okay, here we go Where is your head been lately? Did you have a hard banana last night? That's gonna give you nothing more. Yeah, it's um Is it This is a hail mary. Is there any chance that's um, don't tell mom the babysitter's dead No, but that's another one kind of like working girl. Yeah. Yeah very gosh. I feel like I'm a theme emerges another person who's Doing work and actually doing real work. But pretending that she's somebody else or a higher level in her company She's a high school student, right or maybe recent high school. I think high school. Yeah. Yeah. She is. She's in high school All right, um, I'll play do you want me to play you the the full answer here? Sure. You still won't know the movie though hutch Have you heard a thing I've said? You're laughing. Well, you gave it away with the word hutch. Yeah Where is your head been lately? Did you have a hard sleep last night? No, it was easy. He had an easy sleep jennadine Hutch had an easy sleep comparable swoozy Kurtz. What movie talking to uh, steven weber steven weber Uh in sleep easy hutch rhymes I did not realize. I mean, of course, there's no I don't remember one line. No, you and I watched this movie once I think in a hotel room. Yes, just came on became obsessed with and we're like, oh swoozy kurtz. Steven weber It's so bad. Yeah, we now have it on dvd because I believe I got it for you for your birthday or Probably an anniversary which is even more embarrassing or something I don't even know if we have a dvd player that we can play it on did I say cd. We have it on dvd I should say and it's called sleep easy Hutch rhymes. It's like a really bad very cheaply made sort of kind of kind of noir It's a detective Or it's a mystery, but there's like a lot of betrayal and some murder I think it has kind of a dark ending if I'm recalling correctly I think somebody woman who wants to kill her husband. Yeah, so it's like that's got that noir element to it. I feel like spoiler alert the ending ends with somebody in a boat Like drowning underwater like in a stuck in a boat that sinks the um It doesn't even have like a real synopsis on iMDB. It just says an insurance company owner becomes embroiled in a murder plot So that's as basic as you can get. Yeah, that's oh and by the way It was the only one because some of these I was looking for help I was looking going to iMDB quotes. I typed in sleep easy hutch rhyme quotes and it's just that we have no quotes It said if you have any you'd like to add sure add them here and I was like, that's not how this works That's not can you imagine running some sort of a media thing where most of your content comes from your audience that For shame for shame. Who would ever who would do that? Genevieve I forgot to take notes of what points you were earning, but you got a lot of those, right? You got a couple of them wrong How does like I don't know 7500 points sound great. You good. Well congratulations. You got 7500 points I don't feel like this was my best job hosting a show, but it is one of the more fun shows I've done in a while. Thank you for doing it with me. Thanks for letting me guess toast Absolutely, and sorry to make you work on this day of service Well, I consider this to be public service. That is a good point. That is a good point. You you saved the show today Thank you for listening everybody. Sorry for posting the show a little bit later than usual But I hope it finds you well. We don't know Luke's status to be honest with you Again, I don't think you have to worry about him. Maybe I should have said that at the beginning of the show I think he just has a cold or something and it's making it or you know, like a flu or something and it's making him Unable to talk which is really critical in in in this job of ours. So Hopefully he will be back tomorrow. If not, I don't know. I'll find a genovie for a genovie of a like To do this. Maybe we'll just roll back the quiz. You'll do even better tomorrow. Oh, I'm gonna absolutely kill it tomorrow Yeah, so tonight don't don't sleep hard sleep easy Genovi rhymes In the meantime, I hope you all have a wonderful Rest of your day. We'll talk to you tomorrow. Please remember no mountain too tall and good luck to all I just realized now it would have been funny if you had said good luck to bananas Power out