Giggly Squad

Giggling about gorgina, gossip pits, and jury duty

55 min
Jan 16, 20264 months ago
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Summary

The Giggly Squad hosts discuss celebrity culture, award shows, the Judd family documentary, AI concerns, jury duty experiences, and interior design trends. They also announce upcoming Super Bowl and March Madness appearances while reflecting on how social media and algorithms shape modern life and relationships.

Insights
  • Social media algorithms create an 'anger economy' where negative takes generate more engagement than positive content, leading to rapid opinion shifts on public figures
  • Award show voting systems are fragmented and confusing to audiences, with different academies and press bodies determining winners rather than unified criteria
  • Generational parenting approaches are shifting back toward 1990s-style independence, with reduced screen time and outdoor play becoming status symbols among younger parents
  • Interior design and home aesthetics have become a primary focus for millennial women in their 30s, representing a shift from career-centric to lifestyle-centric priorities
  • AI and chatbots pose genuine creative and relationship concerns, with potential for misuse in entertainment and parasocial relationship formation
Trends
Gossip pit and 1970s-inspired interior design making comeback in home decorReduced screen time and outdoor play becoming aspirational parenting model for Gen Z parentsAward show fatigue and audience confusion about voting bodies and criteriaAI-generated content and deepfakes raising legal and ethical concerns in entertainmentAlgorithmic content moderation creating rapid opinion reversals on public figuresPodcast success as alternative to traditional late-night television hostingLuxury interior design services becoming more accessible to middle-class consumersNostalgia-driven fashion cycles (1960s mod, 1970s aesthetics) dominating Gen Z styleMen's loneliness and parasocial relationships with AI chatbots as emerging social issueSuper Bowl and sports marketing as platform for female creators and influencers
Topics
Golden Globe Awards voting structure and foreign press influenceAI-generated content and creative industry disruptionJury duty selection and dismissal strategiesStranger Things final season writing quality declineJudd family documentary and generational traumaSocial media algorithm impact on public opinionInterior design accessibility and affordabilityParenting trends and screen time managementCelebrity relationship dynamics and parasocial mediaPodcast industry growth and monetizationSuper Bowl commercial advertising and brand partnershipsMarch Madness marketing to female audiences1970s gossip pit interior design revivalAI chatbots and parasocial relationshipsAward show production budgets and venue choices
Companies
ProCore
Construction technology platform mentioned as sponsor providing project management solutions for construction industry
Zero
HMRC-recognized tax software for sole traders and landlords managing Making Tax Digital compliance
Audible
Audiobook platform mentioned in sponsor segment promoting business development titles
Netflix
Streaming service discussed regarding Stranger Things final season writing quality concerns
Kinder Bueno
Chocolate brand sponsoring Super Bowl commercial featuring podcast host
People
Amy Poehler
Won first-ever Golden Globe for Best Podcast after launching podcast 10 months prior
Hudson Williams
Young celebrity receiving protective fan support online despite controversial Golden Globes photo
Kylie Jenner
Receives harsh online criticism for casual photos while male celebrities get protective fan responses
Emma Stone
Praised for Louis Vuitton outfit at Golden Globes, discussed as fashion inspiration
Naomi Judd
Country music legend discussed in documentary context; died by suicide in 2022 after suppressed trauma
Wynonna Judd
Country music performer and Naomi's daughter; reluctant to fame but exceptional singer
Ashley Judd
Actress and Naomi's daughter; rejected Harvey Weinstein and allegedly faced career retaliation
Dolly Parton
Country music icon discussed for declining Grand Ole Opry birthday party invitation with grace
Kate Hudson
Actress praised for comedic talent and romantic comedy roles from 1990s-2000s era
Goldie Hawn
Actress and Kate Hudson's mother; in longest-running unmarried Hollywood relationship with Kurt Russell
Kurt Russell
Actor in decades-long relationship with Goldie Hawn; maintains privacy in Aspen
Enrique Iglesias
Singer in long-term relationship with Anna Kournikova; maintains low media profile
Anna Kournikova
Former tennis player in long-term relationship with Enrique Iglesias; avoids press attention
Shonda Rhimes
Television writer-producer acknowledged as exceptional creative talent producing multiple successful shows
Harvey Weinstein
Discussed in context of Ashley Judd's career impact after she rejected his advances
Quotes
"Do it full on and if you're not, don't do it at all"
Giggly Squad philosophyEarly episode
"If you had threatened to make me pay health insurance, I would have given you more money"
Former startup founderCareer discussion segment
"Wherever you go, you will see me"
Lady Gaga quote referencedClosing segment
"The algorithms are controlling our lives. It's so scary"
Host discussing social media impactAlgorithm discussion
"98% of serial killers are men because women can post quotes on Pinterest"
HostMental health discussion
Full Transcript
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What's up my Gorgina gigglers? Yeah. That was actually a thing in 2016. Yeah. I called everyone Gorgina. Gorgina. Gorgina. I think Courtney Kay started it. And then you'd like go to Starbucks and say your name is Gorgina because you wanted them to yell Gorgina. Okay, I didn't take it. I didn't take it that far. Wait, what started this whole 2016? Everyone posted in the 2016 photos. Okay, some girl did it take time. It's always one girl. That's the one. I mean, I think she was the one who posted it in 2016. The Chicago Cubs won the World Series. That should have never happened. That put us on the wrong timeline. And so they're saying that if the Chicago bears win the Super Bowl, we're going to be put back on the timeline. Why everyone's hating on the Chicago team? Chicago is like, why are we getting involved in this mess? You know what? Since this is a sports podcast. Chicago catching strays. The only time that we keep up with football is when it's about to be the Super Bowl, which, oh. I have to tell the gigler. One thing that I always think about. And not just because I've made New York City my personality for the past 10 years. But sorry, New York is carrying the country on their back. Why do they have so many sports teams? It's not just like one sports team. It's like they have two in each thing. Well, we have New York has three. And then you go a little further down the map. Hey guys, why don't you pull some weight? Anyone ever gone to a South Carolina football game? I don't fucking think so. Well, they're into colleges like South Carolina, the game cocks. And that's has a lot. And that's has a lot. Okay, yeah, they're college. That actually makes so much sense because that's where they've peaked and stuck. You know, and then it's like, we're like in New York. We're like, great. That was so cute in college. Here's the professional big leagues. Oh, the Googlers from South Carolina are like, I just turned this on to enjoy my week. I'm just getting flamed. Sorry, my glass is on today. Well, your page is out. You actually are giving like, onts, like your version of aunt who like went to Harvard, but then took ayahuasca and her life took a turn for the arts. Yes, I was like, I went just, I was pre-med. Yes, I'm a doctor. And then you found this passion and pottery. And now we make insane bongs. Like I, yeah, I have like my own witty line. You got a drug addiction, but you're pretty so it looks fashionable. You're like, she's like heroin chic though. No, I'm obsessed with this. Well, last episode you made me nervous because you were like, we should start doing our outfits. And so then this week I was like, oh, we're doing our outfits and then I walked in and I go, get your outfit. I was gonna say, I didn't brush my hair. For the YouTubers, I have to apologize and I didn't brush my hair. Well, I put an alphanon actually before and I was like, I can't, I had to iron it, but I didn't want to. And I was like, I can't wear this to the giglers. Get really upset when they'd rather you just not do it. Not to show up with a crinkle. Yeah, they don't want you to half ass it and I actually agree. Like just don't just just do what I do. They don't have that either full ass or no ass. The thesis line of Giggly Squad is do it full on and if you're not, don't do it at all. And we lean with the ladder. But you know what's sad? This is actually curated outfit. I was gonna wear like a little yoga top, but then I was like, Hannah, Paige can't handle when your boobs are out. She gets very weird. She starts having all these like saying you should do this more. I don't like all the attention. So then I was like, I'm gonna wear this like New York tennis shirt and then do high socks. Like I want to be like Brunette Princess Diana. If she wasn't as real. You're red-hand. So true. Let's just get right into it. Let's talk about the Golden Gloves. Oh. Nikki. Incredible. Incredible. If she was a man, people would be like. There would be a statue somewhere. She'd have 10 Netflix specials already. Like, done the deal. The deal would have been out. She would have been in the Jumanji movie already. Yeah. She'd be on every AT&T commercial. What is it? Not like she's not doing what is. Well, by the way, she's doing incredible. What is the celebrity pipeline to phone commercials? It is like, it's always like. Once you hit AT&T, you know it's Jason Baben does team mobile. That is so interesting. Obviously, like top line is Amy Polar, clean. Oh. I love that she won the Golden Globe for Best Podcast. First year, it's a category. Started her podcast 10 months ago based on. I see so many men doing it. Not well. I can do it 10 times better with giving 25% of the effort. And she really did. And now look, Amy is like a grown adult. She's so sweet, so nice. I don't feel like she has a vindictive bone in her body. And I think she's actually said that she has a very good relationship with her ex-husband will or not. Who they have two children with. But there have to be a little bit, just a small ounce of. Now watch, we walk up on this stage and accept this award. Something you've been doing for five years. Now as a talent, we knew what was happening in the room in that moment. Beautiful. Beautiful. We were dancing in our grapes. That was art. That was pure art. One thing I do on a point out about the Golden Globes was the budget cut. What was the room? It felt like the ceiling was very low. When they did a full pan of the room, I was like, Wait, this is like a gymnasium. It felt like a little comedy club. I do feel like every time there's an award season, it's like the first time I've ever seen an award season. It's the first time I'm like, wait, we just had an award show yesterday. Now we're doing another award show today. It makes me feel like movies are just made for this award show, Ron. I'm so happy you said that because I had to look up. I literally said, a month to Google, and I said, The difference between all the award shows, give it to me now. No one knows the difference. They're like, these people are voting, but they're just saying different academies. I think it's one guy in a booth. The Golden Globes are voted on from... No, foreign press. What is the foreign press? So anyone who writes articles about the industry, about the TV shows, about the movies, about the actors, they're voting. But it's not the critics choice. The critics are different than the press. The critics are the people of America. The people can vote on the people's. And you know what is kind of annoying is that to win the Oscar... Which is the academy. Which is the academy we apologize for. Yeah. You have to have, like, it's all politics. And then the SAG awards, which I think they renamed to the actors awards, that's each, they're voting on each other. So I would say that... I would say that the celebrities probably care... Possibly about the actor awards. They want the Oscar. Also the actor awards. They're all just voting for themselves. And they say, like, whoever wins the Golden Globes, that's usually, like, who will win the Oscar? Can I say what's pissed me off? Yeah. I've been holding it in. Okay. She's fine, didn't it? Hudson, my sweet, sweet Hudson Williams. Yeah. He's being hilarious. Like, he's running around having fun. Yeah. He's shot into fame, which honestly is so scary. Yeah, yeah. Like, I can't even imagine. Inside, no, everyone was like, why doesn't Amy Polar have a... Why isn't she a late night talk show host? Because podcasts are where it's at, right? You think she wants to go into New York City every day? Well, media has just changed so much in the past 10 years. She wants to have her podcast. Anyway, I digress. Hudson, something that I never once, like, I love how he's just so free and so whatever. And it's like, because he hasn't had his first, you know, people getting mad at me. Don't wanna be free for six months. That would show me free for a bit. And then you realize, oh, I need to shut up. I'm not on a cancellation in August. Yeah. He poses for the glam bot and puts two middle fingers up, which was iconic. Yeah. Like, put it in the loop. Kylie Jenner gets a casual photo taken sitting at the and puts two fingers up. The comments are like, she's trash. She's horrible. She should be burned at the stake. She's horrible. Her whole family's horrible. Her mother's horrible. Yeah. Her business is horrible. And under Hudson's, everyone's just like, this is my king. Protects him at all costs. Imagine taking the time. You see a photo of arguably one of the most famous people in the world's Kylie Jenner. You take the time to go to your keyboard and go, what trash scent? Sorry, that's so diabolical. Look, we have a pot. Look, actually, I talk shit all day long. It's like one of my favorite things to you in the comfort of my own. Free. Yeah. All text my friend. People that talk shit about people like consecutively, like you know each week, like they're going to have, they're going to post something negative about someone. Oh, that's got to be such bad energy. Like, you know, your own body. I think it's how they feel about themselves. Yeah. Could you know how many celebrities that in my head, I'm like, what trash? But I would never say it on the internet. Oh, God. But yeah, I didn't, I watched like some of the aftermath of it all. And I feel like the outfits were fun. I was happy. I feel like they, I feel like a lot of people looked really good. It's so funny. One of my favorite outfits was Emma Stone and she was dressed in Louis Vuitton. I can see you in that. I could see you in that. I had a lot of girl. It's so funny when you post fashion because it's so split. Yes. It's like such a good example of like, wow, the internet's so weird. Yeah. The first message is like, disgusting. The next one is like, that's perfect. The best ever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I did get so many messages. Like my last dress. From girls being like, you would like this one. And I was like, well, people were like, it looks like a cheese slice. But it just, it looked cool girl. It was, she looked stunning. Like, I think she's so pretty. It was so funny because, oh, I don't want to make you mad or anything. But one of your friends DM'd me. And we did do a little bit back and forth. Which one? Your friend Gabby. My blonde friend. Your blonde friend. So she DM'd me off the Emma Stone picture. Yeah. And she was like, something like, oh, I love this one. And I was like, it's so funny. So many people are getting mad at me for posting this. God forbid, I love when an upper bluff is done well. And someone's on the right amount of those up. Like, let me give you a break. And so she like said something back. That was very funny. And we just like had a little bit. And I was like, so Hannah's friend is my friend too. Well, it's funny because Gabby loves you. But Gabby respects our marriage. And also, it needs to be you, I don't know. You guys haven't met in person. I know. So Gabby's always like this page like me. I'm like, she loves you. It's just you never met. And he's had my scroll a clip of hers. I always hit a like because I'm supporting my friends. It's my friend's friend. It's a family tree. That's my friend in law. That's my literal friend in law. And that's like a funny thing when you meet a friend through a friend. There is that respect of like, that's my friend's friend. But also there's a certain kind of friend where you're like, if you hadn't met her first, I would have been your friend too. And I approve of you. Yeah. And but I just surround myself with hot blondes. You're no better than a man. No better than a man. You're no better than a man. I actually, you know what? We give a lot of hate to men. But I'm quite misogynistic. Like there are so many times where I'm like, you could have put makeup on. You got smile. You're not having a good time. I did get on my TikTok. Someone was like, where have all the size eights gone? Mm-hmm. And I said, babe, I've been here. Whatever happened to having some ovaries? You know what I always think about? And I want to say it was like 2013. And it was Jessica Simpson. I think she'd like just out of baby like a month prior. And they attacked her. And like you look at those pictures now and you're like, so she was the size six you free. There was drama two about like Amy Schumer when she was doing all those movies. And she was like, I'm the ugly fat girl. And everyone's like, you are beautiful blondes. Yeah. Size eight. Yeah. And everyone's like, look at this fat girl who's starring. No, it's great. Starring in a movie. She has. Thank God she's funny. Because if she wasn't funny, no one would put her anywhere. It's so true. And Amy had to play the like, background crime. But that is what Gigley Squad is about. And I hate to say it. And I'm so biased about the Giglers. But it's just a bunch of like really hot funny women who listen to our pod. And I've done the research. I've been in the bathroom. I see who comes in and says hi to me. Someone said that me and public bathrooms is Amy Polar. Grace reposted it. Amy Polar wearing the Jeremy hat. And it's me. Anyway, I'll see you guys in the bathroom. Anywho. Wait, that couple I was talking about last episode. That broke up because the husband cheated. They're like a TikTok couple. Yeah. I wasn't like fully invested in the couple when they were opposing. But I knew of them on TikTok, whatever. And she would post cute like funny videos of like. She would go to like a shoe store and be like, oh, I'm getting these new shoes. And then she would just like run down the aisle and be like, oh, okay, yeah, I'm going to get like stupid little videos. Yeah. So it comes out that her husband that she's been with since she was 14 years old. They had like just on a post that they had been together now longer than they've been apart. They have two kids together comes out that he cheated on her. She immediately files for divorce like she's gone the internet's like. And women like you should take a page out of her book. That's how you do it. You absolutely. I was a little studiously. Stop judging how women deal with their men. But anyway, continue. Not a 24 hours later. The internet had completely flipped on her. Well, she's actually annoying in her videos. We're never funny. Imagine being married to her and having to deal with that. She's the problem. And the women were like, she makes like 10 million years. I'm sure he was fine laughing in a couple of videos. They have completely flipped on her. And now it's like, well, he probably just like got really annoyed. And that's why he cheated. So like, I got it. Not as this is our second episode getting messy. But like, the algorithms are controlling our lives. It's so scary. And when people, people aren't even, I don't think care that much. They just want attention. So when they see someone jumping on a bandwagon, they will post like this bad, like, angry take on someone. Because they know it'll get views. Yeah. So we're in this like anger economy of like whoever's calling people out gets the most views. And it's like, the next, you know, everyone's just attacking everyone. And it's a civil war. Okay. That's why I love Amy Paz. Happy Friday. Yeah. That's, no, that's why I'm so happy. Amy Polar won the Golden Globe because her hour of her podcast truly is a true, it's free. It's lollipops. Let's laugh. Um. Yes. What's next on the docket? I have a lot. Okay. This is going to piss you off. Have you heard the stranger thing strama? No, what is it? So I haven't watched it. I stopped after season one episode two. So yeah. I stopped after I think season two. Um, but I support. Really by my mom, obviously. Yeah. So the last episode, everyone is like the last couple episodes, but for sure the last episode, people are like, it's like diabolically bad. Like the right season. Yeah. Like the writing is off. It just seems like a different show. Like, worse than like Game of Thrones, they were like, oh, it didn't like the decision. But this was like something was wrong. Like the dialogue was like just as it sounded like that character. Yeah. So they realize that the writer of the show who's been like considered like one of the greatest writers of all time, whatever in TV got a divorce from his wife. Okay. During the time that it still wasn't finished being written. And people are now realizing that she was like, probably, and this is a legend. It's a good writer. She was a ghost writer because I think she's a writer as well. So people are like, it's, they're just look at the timelines and they're like, when she left him, the, he wasn't done writing the show. And the show ended like shit. So what do we do with that information? So anyway, if I had a nickel, if I had a mother fucking nickel, yeah, keep going. No, that's it. Okay. Just want to piss you off. We were talking about it. I thought you were going to say because I then remembered I saw something that people thought it was chat gpt, which, you know, we can add that to the flame. The only writer that I acknowledge is Shonda fucking right. Like, I'm sorry. If that many shows can come out of one human, she is my chat gpt. Yes. I think that that, how do you, we've never talked about it. Let's get into some fintech. How do you feel about like, if there's like AI actresses or like, if a show is completely written by chat gpt, like, I almost borderline think it should be like illegal. Well, it's just really depressing. And I come from like the creative background where a lot of the comics were like, well, they'll never replace humor. They're never as place humor, but these motherfuckers are getting smart. Like they're, they're getting smarter every, except then they're also super down. Like there's a video clip going around that if you ask chat gpt, like to spell strawberry, it spells it wrong. Well, because it's pulling from sources from humans and humans aren't smart. And it, and it goes based off. It's algorithmic. Yeah. So like, it learns you so it knows what's, it's very manipulative. It starts to tell you what you want to hear. Well, and that's why men are getting in relationships with them. So that, and then that's not a myth. I'm, I'm scared about it. I'm scared about it. We're scared about it. I saw I robot. I mean, yes. That's all, that's all I'm going to say about that. Um, also we did. And then they're going to think they're going to start making them look like Megan Fox. Get the fuck out of my home. Literally. You think I'm bringing in a Megan Fox AI bot into my home? Also Megan Fox better get her money for that if they're using her facial features. Well, that like, they made that movie. I mean, she played it like, sorry, I missed that one. That's a game. I was, there's also the game we were. It's a game we were. Construction shapes our communities. It's why the industry's most innovative companies trust ProCore is the leading technology partner for every stage of construction. We know that anything is possible when we build together. Learn more at ProCore.com. Making making tax digital is seamless with zeros HMRC recognized software. 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I was also dismissed, but it's not the people. It's not the government that picks. It's the lawyers, the law, the opposite. What is that? The defendants. They are picking the jury, not the prosecutor. So I wonder, puts on glasses suddenly knows law and order. Well, I got out of it because I said my brother is a lawyer and he works for the people. And so I am biased toward that. Whatever. Let me write out of there. If you want to go out of jury duty, just say you listen to giggly squad. I wonder if they know giggly squad is so anti-like men. If the case was something with, it's obviously, it was probably a guy. I mean, it was guy. They commit 100% of the crimes. And so I wonder if they were like, no, she's so pro women. I don't know, but it just made me really proud. Same. I read it in my bed the other night and I was like, that's beautiful. And also there's no better feeling than getting dismissed from jury duty. You're like, she's like, I'm going to get angry. I'm going to go to the other room and then everyone goes, how do I get out of it? And then you feel like you're in some kind of like, jumanji. Yeah. And I called every lawyer, I freaking knew when I got jury duty. Well, this was my problem. And I got jury duty is I had an hourly job. Yeah. When they were like, okay, you have to be here for two weeks for like 100 bucks. I was like, I'm actually using money. But then I feel like they should round up all the male loneliness, make them the drip, put them to work. They're like, that's corrupt. But there's people with jobs who like, they can't just leave for two weeks. It goes when people are like caretakers, like they really can't leave. It's like moms, really. But then who is watching kids? Every now and then there's a case that you know you're like, this is going to be good. And I'm like, I'm not. No, one time my eyelash lady had jury duty. And let me tell you that couple of weeks of getting my eyelashes done. No tea, no tea like I've ever heard before. And funnily enough, she was doing a jerk case for a murder. Okay. Now this is highly illegal. She's telling me in my mom all of it. My mom goes, wait a second. I think I know that guy. My mom knew the guy randomly who was on trial for murder. Well Kim runs in some sketchy circles. I'm pretty sure he like murdered his, murdered his wife. Yeah. In jail. I mean, my mom like calls someone. She's like, you're never going to get that. And that was my introduction to jury duty. This might be my one. I had jury duty and it was literally like some guy like probably like didn't give the book back to the library in time. I'm like, I'm not staying here for this shit. I want murder. I want cults. No, my New York kidnap. My New York city one was crazy. It was like a, in a sultan like an old lady this guy and they lived in the same building. It was a really crazy case. And I was like wanted to know what ended up happening, but I was like, I gotta go. But I will say jury, when I went, when I did jury duty, and this was probably like five six years ago, I was very unimpressed by the way the people dressed. I was like, guys, this is the lunch chance we get. We're sitting on my Hoganie. I'm like guys, Reese Witherspoon is somewhere really disappointed in all of you. We're on display. No, it's like we're cause playing. Like do you have for a couple days? Do you want to hear something so embarrassing? I was like, I'm literally going back to the time I drew. I was like 24, 25. And I guess I might have had a boyfriend at the time and I got to jury duty and realized I hadn't taken my birth control that morning. And it was that time in your life where you think that like, even if you have protected sex, you're gonna have a baby, turns out much more complicated to get pregnant. Turned out now. Turned out to be an adult. You need to inject yourself with some shit. I realize that I'm like locked in this place and I was freaking out that I need to get birth control. And I started to like potentially have a panic attack because I was like, I'm going to get pregnant because I'm forced to be in this law building. And they're not going to let me out. And I almost went to top to be like, I have to get birth control. But then I was like, fuck it. I'll just have a team pregnancy at 24. And but I didn't get pregnant. Oh, good. To tell everyone. Where is the one? Wait, speaking of having a panic attack, I know you tried to watch tell me lies. And you couldn't get through it. Do you want to tell them why? Why? I watched only 10 seconds. I just didn't think he was cute. Oh, yeah. Hannah didn't think Stephen was hot enough to be. But I don't know his personality yet. I know he's like a douche. I told you, he gets, he gets so much hotter. Because he lies everyone. Yes. See, I'm in this place where I'm like, I don't like his, I don't like it. You don't like it. But they're dating in real life. Is that what makes it like even like more, more depth? Or people appear? No, you don't really think about it when, because when the first season came out, you didn't know they were dating in real life. I don't think. Oh, they dated before the show. I think they started dating like as well. So let's be honest, anyone who's dating someone on a show like in the storyline, they're actually dating. They tell their partners they're not. You're fully method acting dating someone. It is funny to watch him in interviews because he does seem so nice. Nice, so nice. Like, he could not be more opposite. But in the new season, if you haven't watched it, clip through this because I'm going to do some spoilers. The first three episodes are out of the third season. One of the episodes, Grace, she plays a character named Lucy, is having a panic attack. But she doesn't know what it is. And it's the way she acted it was so spot on. I actually had to turn the volume down because I was like, oh, I actually can't. You're getting too interesting. So her right now, because I'm getting like, she's like, oh, something's weird. Like my hands are, my hands are numb. She's like in my, my, my, my, my, and I'm like, oh my god, she's having a panic attack because these are ruining her life. And it was such, I mean, like, I just think every girl has experience that no matter if it's in your 20s and your 30s, like a moment where you're like, what's going on? Yeah. And you're like, what's, where is this coming from? And it's like, oh, everything's going to be alright. And she said, well, I did drugs two days ago. Maybe, maybe it's that. Maybe it's like coming out of my, and it's you think of all these different things. And you're just like, hey, babe, you're ruining your life. It's like, you're not depressed. It's the man in your phone. And this season is particularly fucked up. Like Stephen plays a really, like, but you know a guy like that, which is the crazy part. It's just a season with a V or a pH. pH. Don't like that at all. Yeah. Oh, see, I prefer pH over V. Well, is it Stefan or Stephen? Well, I would say that's with an F. Stefan. Stefan. You know, male names in general are like, it's, I've, it's hard. I feel like, do you get a lot of gigglers DM you about baby names? Not one. Really? Because I would say it once a week, um, um, I'm going send me some other inspo. Not, not loving that. But you asked them to send you baby names. They send me a list and they're like of these four. What are your favorites? Oh, for them naming their child. Yeah. Yeah, no, I have a guy. And like, that's a, like, I would say, I'd say 14% of my DMs is being like, I don't love that name with that first. I do get a lot of what should I name this kid? Oh, yeah. And I'm like, Oreo, obviously, or like Mr., Mr. You know, nibble, something insane. Yeah. I'm like, loafer. That's what you name it. Wait. That's adorable. She's think of a random noun. That's what you wear, man. Yeah. Hashtag. Hashtag brown. I actually watched a insane documentary about the Judd family. Oh. Are you familiar with the lore of the Judd family? I'm a little bit familiar with the Judds. So there's the mom. Yep. Who named Gorgeous? How to different name. Mm-hmm. But then she changed her name. What is her name? It's something gorgeous. Winona? Nope. So Ashley's the other daughter. And then we'll insert her right here. Oh, what? It's like Naomi. Yeah. Naomi, okay. So we got Naomi and Winona. Yes. Okay. So Naomi gets pregnant at 18 and her mother with Winona. Yes. Yeah. And her mother, and she's not married. Her mother locks the door. And it's basically like, you're not welcome in this house. You've had a baby out of what lock. So she does, is there from like Texas? There's from somewhere in the South. Yeah. But she's like not really into the sky. She got pregnant with. But instead she's like, oh, hey, I guess I have to fucking marry this guy. So she marries this guy. And she's not even like that into him. And she wants to be a movie star. But she's like, I just got pregnant at 18 like this fucking sucks. And then she gets pregnant again as you do back in the day. And then she has Ashley. And then she divorces this guy. She's like, I hate you. Yeah. But they move to LA. She means another abusive boyfriend gets out of it. But she realizes that why known as amazing as singing. So she like full, she's like a mom and a chair. And she's like, I'm going to get this girl famous. She's our ticket out. And she goes to Nashville. And but why known is opposite of her. Why known is not into the glam, into the attention. She just happens to be a freakishly good singer. And they like to sing together. Which the mom is good to. Yeah. So what happens is like why known gets no press or accolade? No, no, no anything. But Naomi's knocking down doors. And she's gorgeous. And she's like, my daughter is going to be the greatest of it. Somehow people hear them singing together. Because sometimes they sing together. And they're like, we want you two together. So they become this massive. Duo. Because no one's ever seen a mother daughter. And they also like look the same. Yeah. Red heads. Two red heads. And their spectacular. Meanwhile, Ashley Judd is just kind of left in a hotel room. Well, this is happening. And Ashley is like, it's a very depressed. How old is Ashley when like 16? OK. So she's like a loan in a hotel room. And the other two are trying to like, but in Naomi's mind, she's like, I need support my family. And Ashley's like, I don't have a family right now. I can't name one Ashley Judd movie, but I can picture them. There was a period of time where I feel like she was in everything. I loved her as an actress. So she couldn't sing. Yeah. Which I feel connected with because my mom's a great singer. And everyone's like, why don't you sing with your mom? And I'm like, yeah, not happening. So Ashley Judd could have joined the family thing, but she can't sing. So then she's like, I'm going to be an actress. And she like becomes a fucking huge Hollywood actress. When known in the mom, or getting like huge. So as a family, this became like huge. But actually, the tea is apparently Ashley Judd said no to Harvey Weinstein and he fucked her career. Well, wow, that's so interesting. I was just going to say why she was at the top of her career. Yeah, I feel like late 90s. No, probably like mid all of the 90s. It was a classic. She had a meeting with him at some office. They go, oh, he canceled. Can you meet him at his hotel? She goes, OK, she gets the hotel. Like what restaurant are we meeting at? They just go to his room. She goes to his room and she ends up getting out. But the damage was done. And he obviously was like, well, you're not cooperating. But fast forward, Naomi the mom starts having really bad panic attacks and depression. And just like, this is kind of dark. OK. I'm taking you on a word. Sorry, guys. You're resorted to having so much fun. I've been, actually, I've been meaning to tell you this. Her whole life, all she wanted to do was be in the country music hall of fame. And she gets asked. And then like the day before, she does it. What year was that in the 90s? Are the early 2000s? Naomi died in 2022. Oh, she just died. She just died. But she committed suicide. But what happened is, and I want to speak on her, is like, oh, that's so sad. She's so fucking strong. She finds out when owner John to sew off. She's 61. Yeah. Through therapy and stuff, she finds out that she was, she went through really traumatic stuff when she was like three years old. And she never dealt with it. So like in her later years, it started just like coming up. And she started just having like all these panic attacks of like suppressed stuff. Where the heart is, that's the movie I couldn't think of the name of. Ashley, have you ever seen that with Natalie Portman and Ashley Judd? No. It's one of the best movies of all time. That was such a time of movies. Yeah. Movies, do you want to know why? Because I genuinely think there were more movies geared toward women. Like everything now, when you go, that's why I'm like, it's so annoying. I don't watch movies, I feel like as much. Everything on the Amazon is like, oh, thriller. Like, I'm like, I don't want a thriller. I want like a cute romcom. Well, yeah, romcoms were at their height. Yeah, they were at their peak. They're at their peak. But anyway, the jazz party, I feel like I'm so obsessed with Kate Hudson. Yeah. Because like when I think Kate Hudson, I think fun and like romcommy and... She is hilarious. People don't talk about how she's so funny. People don't talk about how funny she is. And people don't talk about... People don't talk enough about Goldie Hawn and Curry Russell. They just don't discuss them enough. No. Never been married to each other. And together, the longest couple literally in Hollywood history. The history of the world. And they stay out of the limelight. Stay out of the limelight. They live in Aspen. They have like... They live in Aspen? They're very shikunny. They have like massive, like big winter parties. Oh, for... For... For... But overall, just to wrap, the Judd family is like a very inspirational, beautiful story of motherhood and the connection of your mother and daughters. And how your mom... It's her first time living too. No, whenever I see that, like... And don't forget, your mom's first time living too. It makes me really sad. Because like, you think about all the times, you're like, mom, you're annoying. You know how everything is like cyclical? Yeah. I do feel like our generation specifically, like... And not even generation. I mean, like 33 to 30, like seven. I feel like us being parents is gonna be very nineties. Yes. I don't care what you do. Go. Yes. I feel like that's gonna be the vibe. You have to teach your kids how to self-soothe. Well, like... So, I'm gonna teach you all these things where it's like screen time, screen time. I've had blah, blah, blah, whatever. We're going back to flip phones. And you see all these parents being like, no, like go outside and no phone and all of that stuff. I can't imagine how hard it is to be a parent of like a twin right now, like 13 to 60. But no phones is like definitely getting back. So, it's kind of like how when we were growing up TV was like the evil. Yeah. Where now people are like, get off your phone, watch TV. Like just watch TV. So, look at your phone all the time. No. That's very where the rug rats. Oh, Angelica wasn't nice enough. Well, my mom would be like, oh, you can't watch wishbone. I'm like, it's an educational show. And she's like, you're not watching TV right now. Go outside. Love to a phone. We also sometimes we'd only be able to watch TV on the weekends in the morning. And then we had to run around. Like weekend morning, we could watch a part of. Yeah, like I don't remember... I don't remember my mom ever being like, no, go play. Like you wanted to play. Oh, yeah. But also, I remember because my parents were kind of strict with TV. Like that was what they would take away. Yeah. When I'd like... You live now as an adult with no TV in your bedroom. I didn't know you were allowed to. So they must have done something. I didn't really know you were allowed to. But I remember I'd like go to my on Fridays and what was this like, I went to your school where you'd go to random movie. And you're like, tonight we're watching. Yeah. And it was like, or I'd go to my pick up my friend in the morning and we'd watch TV together, like saved by the bell. Or like that. Wow, I just never had morning TV. It was like you get in a little fucking... A little person. You get a little snort in the morning of something naughty. Wait, can I say a celebrity couple that isn't... Yeah. Talked about enough. Yeah. Enrique Englaceus and Anna Cornicova. How have they been able to stay out of the press? Yeah. So when anyone says, oh, the press just love them. Anna Cornicova, the most beautiful, most talented woman in the world. And Enrique Englaceus, the most beautiful, most talented man in the world, who's so beautiful, he could be a woman. They're together. Yeah, well, I think they're married and have kids. Yeah. And they lived a peaceful life. I feel like they would live Miami. I feel like they would live in Florida town. Or she could live in. Who knows? Who knows? Construction shapes our communities. The buildings, roads and bridges we rely on every day. It's why the industry's most innovative companies trust Procore as the leading technology partner for every stage of construction. 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And I just feel like that is so, like if I could predict what the Gaggly Squad is going to be like when they're in their 80s, it's that. It's like, oh my God, thank you so much for the recognition. I'm certainly not going to be there, have the best time. Wait, it's so bad ass that you know you don't have to be there and people would still be excited to go to a party just with your name on it. Like she's like, you can celebrate me, but I'm good. But thank you. I love that. I feel like I'm going to start doing that for my birthday. I'm just going to be, I'm just going to throw parties for my birthday and watch it on Instagram. Well, that was my favorite dinner when I threw dinner and then I didn't show up because I had a scratchy throat. Wait, wait. And everyone sent me photos and I said, please stop sending me photos from the event. Thank you. I know I'm getting older because I'm very into lamps. Yeah. And the algorithm knows. Yeah, nothing like a good lamp. And they know I'm, it's like porn. We're like at first, you're like, this is cute and then you're like, I need to see some crazy shit. Like, they know not to show me normal lamps anymore. I need some like chrome fucking mid-century modern. I need some fucking weird bases. I need some like abstract. I need some crazy shit. I'm going to be honest. I've, I've, I've sense this day coming with you because you, you love vintage. You love thrifting. You love like, oh, I'm going to like run into this little store. But now we're getting older. You're needle pointing. You're like, you're going to dinner at 5 p.m. with your husband. It was a matter of time until you said, hey, check out this end table. It was a really put you in a coma. I think like two years ago, I couldn't spell sconce. Now I have a penance board of only sconces. I have a pen you know what a sconce was. Do I know how to put it together? No, that was intimidating. So I just will change the whole world. Sconce will change the room. Don't get me started on my crown molding in my, in my apartment because it's a gen up true work about it. You know what's amazing about a light. It not only brings so much value to the home and the ambiance, but it also is fully a design piece. It's two and one. I'm very, I love like the 60s era. I love 60s fashion. Like anything like palm royale like Kristen Wig that show. Yes. I love that. I love mini skirts. I love boots. Yes. I love big hair like that. And I love like the madmen, the decorations. Like I love when a room looks like 70s. I love 70s. Do you remember the rooms where they just had a gossip like pit, pit, do you know they're coming back? Okay. Because they actually said our generation brought back interior designers that like it had like fallen off a little was like really only for the rich at one point. Yeah. And our generation has made it like, no, we really care about our homes. But I do have to say I think there is somewhere in the marketplace because of someone who's like dabbled and looking at interior design. It's fucking hard. Expensive. And then also it's, it's like styling where it's like super expensive plus like obviously you have your own taste. Yeah. It's so expensive to possibly not like it. And I know so many people who are like adults who've had like bad experiences with it. Yeah. But I want those, I feel like there's an opportunity for like a girl who's like doing well in her 30s financially to be able to hire an interior designer that isn't like for like millionaires. Yeah. Well, because it's such an art. Yeah. And it really is. I just thought it's like I would love just someone's taste because I know what I like but I don't know how to put it together. Yeah. Yes, that's perfect. But if someone's like start from scratch and I like, I'm like, I like lamps. But once you start seeing lamps, you can't see it. And one bad lamp can ruin a room. This is like how you talk about someone's like shoe. That's how I speak about lamps. A shoe really can ruin a whole entire outfit. You go as we can see here. As we've learned today. Actually, these are my Lulu lemon shoes. They're so comfortable. They're very comfortable. I was just going to say something. Shoot. What were we talking about before your lamps? Before we got on that riveting conversation. This is being in your 30s with your friend. Like, oh my god, forgot to tell you. Saw lamp the other day. You know what I mean? That's crazy. Am I crazy for like in the slam part? Do you like this lamp too? Like 10 years ago, it would be like, what is my career now? What is my job? I did learn a new word. The Gencies are saying. Oh god. Choppelganger. Try, spell it. No. Perfect. So chop, chop, chop, ganger is like. Chop. So it's a thing which. CHOP. I would CHOP. I'd love to use this mark. But it's like she's chopped. I think it might mean ugly or bad. OK. He's chopped. Like they're chopped. They're chopped. Yeah. So chop, chop, ganger basically is like a doppelganger. If it's like the ugly version. So like, you know, you'll see like a guy and you're like, oh, he's the Walmart version of Glenn Powell. Like he looks like Pedro Pascal if he was microwave. Now you just say like he's a chop, choppelganger of. Gencies needs a hit box. I mean, I just can't chop, choppelganger. I guess it's too much of a. Because they don't come up with words for I think day to day. They come up with it for Instagram captions. Like sleigh is fun on Instagram caption, but saying sleigh all day, sleigh all the time. Yeah. Like it doesn't. If I want to take myself seriously, I can't say sleigh in a normal conversation of someone that's, I have to read the room. Like I can't go up to my door man and be like, sleigh. You know, I could, but I'm in a, I would like to be taken seriously sometimes. Fashion is funny though. Or like they love a word. Yeah. That means like I, you know, like everyone was saying major, like in 2019. Yeah, that was like major. The Rachel Zoe effect had a really big impact on us. Actually, Tinks made a TikTok the other day talking about like trends in general and how like the 2016s and us, trends would last so much longer. Yes. Juicing how like you'd wait for your favorite influencer to post and then you would look up like the bathing suit they were wearing and it was such a different time. Yeah, I feel like we need to get back to that. Like the trends can't change so quickly. Where were you in 2016? Not a good place. Yeah. 2016, I lived here for like a full year, lived in New York City for a full year. I was having the best time of my life. I was just going out and like, you want to know what it was at that time, your job truly was just a job. Yeah. Like you went Monday through Friday. Yeah. Once the clock hit 6 p.m. and you were out of there, you were fully in your personal life. Like now our jobs are so intertwined with our personal life that I feel like we get like a snippet of being able to like go out on a Saturday night like on some month. Yeah. I still feel like should I be posting or people posting. All I cared about at work all week, once it hit Monday, I was like, and one of my wearing Thursday night for drinks. Let me go on Pinterest now. That's amazing. Somebody said that Pinterest was possibly going away. And to that I say, a lot more murder per capita with women. I mean, I don't know that's the only thing that comes with that. But I'm not going to be a bit more interested. Do you know how many times I've written up those angry text messages in my notes and said, you know what? I'm just going to go on Pinterest. I love it. It's going to be better. 98% of serial killers are men because women can post quotes on Pinterest. And we can regulate. We can regulate our emotions. We can we have enough deduction and reasoning to be like, easy. Let me step away. In 2016, I was working for a t-shirt company. And there were like four people working. It was like a startup. And I really was like, it's when you were like cold calling. This was after cold calling sales. Because I was like, I can't do the cold calling anymore. I want to do something creative. So I was like, doing marketing, I guess. But my job was basically customer service. People would be like, where's my t-shirt? And I'd be like, have you looked next door? And they're like, no bitch. And I'm like, OK, I'll send you another one. That's what I did. But I would pitch the founder who said next to me, all these marketing ideas. And he basically went and listened to them. And then one day I was like, I've been here for a year. Can I get a raise of some kind? And he was like, no. And then I was like, OK, I think I'm going to quit. Because this isn't going anywhere. And he looks at me. And he was like, you know, because I was under 26. And he's like, if you had threatened to make me pay health insurance, I would have given you more money. He said something so like diabolical where I just felt like such a non-human, just such an entity. Yeah. And then I started an Instagram called Forks and Fitness. Because it was a F&F. Where is this for? I think it might still exist. But it also might have, I'd definitely been logged out of it. But occasionally I'll get an email, like a fake company being like, can we promote Forks and Fitness? I had like 200 followers. But I was doing sports modeling. So it would be like me posting these playing sports. Because I wanted to show that women could be strong. Yeah. And then I showed like smoothie recipes. And then I did motivational quotes. No. My shale. My shale. No. That is so sweet. Are you going to say something? Cry. Because I wanted to show women being healthy and powerful because that's all I knew. And I was like, see, you could be strong. And I was like pitching. I was like, when are you doing mental health moments of the day? But it was funny because that's so like lost, sounding. But like literally in a year, I was telling people I want to do video. I want to get into sports broadcasting. And then next, you know, I got my job at Betches doing video. Yep. But no, 2016 was like such a crazy. So 2017 was when I had my relationship that like gave me panic attacks. Yeah. So 2016 was like my last year of like fun. Of being a baby. You know, before and then I'm just like, a man could ruin your mental health. You don't pick the wrong one. You really don't? Yeah. Where at 2016, I was like, does anyone want to experience life with me? And then 2018, we met. And the world's never been the same. The world's never been the same. Wait. I meant to say this in the beginning of the pod. Classic. Just remembered. Let's start over. Let's start over. Let's redo it. We were talking about the Super Bowl. I'm going to be in a Super Bowl commercial, which you all really know. But I'm going to tell the giglers. And it was so, well, first one I got the call. I was like, guys, this is insane. What is the brand? Like what is it for? And it's for Kinder Boino, like chocolate. And it's so serendipitous because when you go home to my parents house, if you're staying at our home, if you're staying in like one of the guest rooms, on your night side bed table, there will always be snacks. Yes. And I've seen it. One of three snacks. There's either Nutella, little bites or cookies. For Rero Rocher. For Rero Rocher's or Kinder Boino. Now, the funny part of this is my mom doesn't know that they're all owned by the same company. Well, she has taste. She purely just has taste. She has. They're also an Italian company. So, Loki, I think they were like, who can we tap in America? But like, it's just the image. Just so much. So anyway, so I filmed a commercial for the Super Bowl. I'm so excited. I actually haven't fully seen it yet. But like, I think you know, it's an accident. And one line. How long? Like, what is the, are you allowed to say any of the press? I don't know what I'm allowed to say. I don't want to get you in trouble yet. But it's, I want to say it's like a 30 second. Yeah. I'm like a very short part, but like, they were so fine. Who did you do it with? That I don't think I can say. Oh, okay, that's exciting. Yes, so we'll say like what? It'll just be, it'll be fun. That's a thank you. Thank you, everyone. Have a Kinder Bueno. Have a Kinder Bueno. And I will say after I got the call and my agent was like, you're gonna film this commercial. I was so excited. And then I thought, hmm. What's an event that all my ex-boyfriends will be seated for? They'll be watching. Well, how can I harness all that energy? Oh, a Super Bowl commercial. I do have to say, I think the next step for me and you is really infiltrating sports. Yeah. It's been a sports podcast for a while. For a last couple of years. I also just want to throw something out there. I do believe I'm going to be involved with something with March Madness, which I know the men love. So let's just say, people are going to be pissed. You're going to be real, real mad. And by people, I mean the men. Yeah. I mean about six or seven men that have crossed through my path. I have quite a list of seven men that I can't fucking. I'm going to be a great person to see me on that screen. You know it's going to be an awkward conversation for someone that night. I'd actually like to throw them all in a group chat together and say, have at it. How have your lives all significantly gone down? Well, it is the classic Lady Gaga quote, where it's like, wherever you go, you will see me. And some, there have been some safe spaces for men like the Super Bowl, right? But look, those spaces are weaning. But hey, I wasn't getting the full dust though I needed a big day in. And I needed to really twist it this year. Last year, I was just knife-ing. This year, I'm really cranking it. So I'm excited. Well, anyway, and that's where we'll end. That was a good men's health moment. So anyone uses this as motivation to piss someone off. We love you so much. Have an amazing week. Oh, also, I'm going to Idaho today. Like, I have to leave this pod to go on my flight. Idaho. Oh my god, I have a run. Idaho, four places in Colorado. You have to go. LA, San Francisco, Seattle. I got a run. We're back. We're back to work. Yeah. Love you guys. Bye. MUSIC Construction shapes our communities. It's why the industry's most innovative companies trust ProCore as the leading technology partner for every stage of construction. We know that anything is possible when we build together. Learn more at ProCore.com. We get it. Making tax digital can sometimes feel daunting. But with zero's HMRC recognized software, you quickly get to feeling confident. 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